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Speaker 1: No, I'm wearing my speedo. You've worn a speedo. I

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wear a speed O't let's talk about this. We're live,

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we are Yeah, okay, let's talk about you own a speedo. Yeah,

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I'm wearing a speedo. That means you gotta shave your

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bikini line right never, no, no, wait, man, I live

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at the beach. You just let it all hang out.

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That's right. It's what we do around here these parts,

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you know. Yeah, banana hammock. So what's going on? Nothing?

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I feel like that's my line to you all the time.

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What's going on? Visiting family? Visiting family a lot? Meaning

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you're staying with me, staying with you, smoking wheed on

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your roof like Willie Nelson at the White House. That's

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very nice. Yeah yeah, you live in a home that's

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like a really great vacation spot. Yeah, thank you. Yeah,

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we're very great for like a week or a long weekend. Yep. Yeah,

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that's what people think around here. They like to stay

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for a week or a long weekend, you know. Yeah,

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but it's your mainstay, mainstay. Very nice, thank you. Yes, well,

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we just bought a house just off the island. Okay,

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that we are that you have not seen yet. We

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just closed on boggy Hollow. Bog Hollow, right, We're not

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going to say what the address is. Rachel's like, no,

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you have a lot of cedars there, right, a lot

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of cedar trees. Smell a cedar comes in. Smell a

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cedar comes ripping in from the bogs hollow. I'm gonna

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start drinking again today, are you really? Let's do it? Man?

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Coffee's getting old? Is it? I actually need a coffee? Anyway.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking we could talk a little bit about

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some of the shows we've been on through the years,

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and it's not just American Chopper, but like maybe some

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of these other show was that we've been guests on,

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and I think I think we have some interesting experiences

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with that stuff, you know very much.

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Speaker 1: Any one particular show come to mind? Letterman? Okay, Yeah,

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when you and Dad went on and I was in

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the green room and I had to go to the bathroom,

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and I was hungover, and I shipped my pants while

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I was pissing standing up? Is that true? Try to

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make that streamline because it makes me sick to think about. Yeah, yeah,

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I crapped my pants and you went on Letterman after

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that with us. You weren't on, it just was us. Yeah.

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I was there as a taglo really just hanging out backstage. Man,

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I could have lived without knowing that. Bro. Yeah, you know,

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too bad. You shipped your pants. I shipped him. Oh

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my gosh. Wait, was that like one of the first

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times we were on? That was one of the first

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times that ship my pants? It was? Yeah, yea, I

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think it was the first time you guys were on

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Letterman and I wanted to do you mean ever like

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in life? Yeah, okay, not even when I was a baby.

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Were you drinking at the time? Heavily?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you know, yeah, we got to give

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you a little pass there.

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Speaker 1: I guess you gotta give me a pass. Okay. It's

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not something I'm bragging about. It's just something I think

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is very interesting. Yeah. Well, I asked as content you

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did ask I did, and that was the most standout thing.

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I wouldn't say it was the highlight I got you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, Well let's talk about some other

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more positive I wash my shorts history.

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Speaker 1: I had to wash my shorts in the bathroom. Did

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you was there a dryer in there? No paper towels?

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And then dan our brother knew, knew that I shipped

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my pants in there. Was he there with you? He

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was there. He was in the green room with me.

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Let me ask you a questions. Did this happened before

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after or during our interview with David Letterman? Right before?

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Right before? Okay, you and Dad were really nervous. Yeah,

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that's probably true. And you guys wanted me to go

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and check and see that the bikes were definitely going

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to fire up, ready to fire up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know that was the interesting thing about Letterman Man.

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He would uh, he always had us bring bikes. Yeah,

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and every time after every single time we were on there,

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he'd jump on a bike with us and we'd go

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take take a ride down the boulevard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Pretty he rides, I think, right, I think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he was dude, I'll tell you that guy

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was never afraid to jump on any given crazy chopper

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Speaker 1: Brought and just rip down the boulevard. He loved it.

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I think he's a bullsy guy. He's pretty ballsy.

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Speaker 2: But you know, we were told that he really wasn't

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doing that with anyone else in other words, he wasn't

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doing any kind of activity outside the studio with anyone else.

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because he had such a long and prolific career of

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interviewing some of the biggest stars on the planet. And

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he really liked us Man, he really did.

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Speaker 1: And that was nice because if he doesn't like.

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Speaker 2: You, oh, if he doesn't like you, he would tear

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you to pieces, pieces unmercifully.

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Speaker 1: You know. Lena wasn't like that. He was a lob balleraller.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a good way. Nice guy, vanilla guy, vanilla ish. Yeah,

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but think about it, although, but very competitive, right. Him

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and Letterman were neck and neck in ratings. I never

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understood that. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's that l a crowd thing, so maybe they

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cheated or they think at a time difference, but still

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on the same time, Yeah, yeah, uh what else? What

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else were we on? Oh?

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Speaker 2: You know what was a good one? And they were

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on our show and we were on their show. My

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name is Earl, what's a Jason Lee? And who's the

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other guy?

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Speaker 1: So you guys asked me to go check and see

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that the bikes could fire up. Oh, I had a

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ship stay and I was like I couldn't. I couldn't

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run up the steps and passed a bunch of people

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because I had a ship stain in my pants. Then Dan,

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I was asking Dan to go, you know, check and

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make sure the bikes were going to fire up. Yeah,

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and he was breaking my balls. He's like, well don't

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you go. He's like, come on, man, And I was

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hungover too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was all right, go back. No,

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I'm glad you said that because I was just jumped.

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I had to get that in there. But yeah, that's good.

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Too far along, Yeah, it's like, let's like it too

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far along. Yeah, anyways, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: My name is Earl. They came on our show. I

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remember they had taken a red eye in from California

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and they were somewhere doing something and they were they

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came in. They couldn't even stay. They sat on the

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couch and dad's office and they passed out.

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Speaker 1: Yep. They came in from California overnight flight. Jason Lee

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and who's the other guy, Ethan? You see that guy's

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Jack now? Yeah he looks great. Oh bro, He's like

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Diesel Total Change the turnaround guy. Yeah, he was like

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three hundred and eighty pounds or something. Yeah, yeah, right,

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and I think maybe it hurt his career. That'll happen.

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It will happen because he he got less. Uh, I

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don't know. Funny looking that, and you've kind of carved

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a niche and now you've pulled yourself away from the niche, right,

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you know, but it's probably for the better for his health. Yeah.

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I saw an interview with him.

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Speaker 2: He was perfectly happy with maybe missing out on some

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rolls for being in way better shape and probably living

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he was perfectly comfortable with that. But that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: But in any note, they were sleeping on the couch,

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remember yep, And I mean they were passed out, and

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and we all grabbed axes, remember that, And we.

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Speaker 1: Just went through five doors. Five people went through five

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doors all at the same time. They jumped up. They

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were like, oh my god, what's going on with being raided? Yeah,

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that was their introduction to the Tuttles. Something else. We

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used to be really destructive, very destructive, Like doors were

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our thing. Yeah. Doors were a thing. We had a

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bunch of doors stocked up, stocked up by like in

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the base, going through doors and going through doors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were nice because they were like the

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kind of doors that if you had to punch through,

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you didn't break your hand. They were like the cheapest

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doors you could ever find.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. They were like breakaway doors, breakaway doors almost like

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you would make that for some kind of movie.

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Speaker 2: And they would just I mean they would. You could

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run through those things, dude, they would just shatter it.

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I got you know, you get your foot stuck in

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the door, but yeah, you'd quickly like rip the door

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off the hinges, you know.

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Speaker 1: Just continue through, like put the rest of your body

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Speaker 2: Anyways, they came up to us and we did my

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name is Earl Bike, remember that doing all these little

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I don't even remember. But there were all these nuances

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to that show. We incorporated like flannel and whatever else.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like a junk ard bike, yeah, or a

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white trash bike. Yeah, kind of trailer like trailery ish

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trailer trashy. Yeah. You know I got into that show

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later on. I thought it was pretty funny. Oh, after

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the fact, after the fact. I've never seen an episode

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before we were on it. Yeah, I don't see Jason

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Speaker 2: He did a couple of things, Chipmunk movies. Yeah, Alvin

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and the Chipmunks just saw that because my son was

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and I think he's scientologists. Yeah, I've heard that he's

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do that and then they tell you not to talk

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Jason Lee. I remember we were going up to dad's

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house for something and uh, he drove with me and

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we were just talking. Just super nice guy, you know,

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very nice.

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Speaker 2: And then I remember we went out to California and

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we were on an episode of My Name Is Earl.

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You remember that. I forget what the premise was. We

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were in some out like location. Shoot, what were we doing?

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Speaker 1: We were in a garage.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, but that was a short spot.

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Speaker 2: They definitely got more time on our show than we

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got on theirs, which I always thought that was kind

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of messed up.

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Speaker 1: You think, so, no, write a black letter. Yeah, No,

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it was fine. I thought it was great. It was

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fun to be out there.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I remember about it, and I'll

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always feel bad about this. So we rapped and that

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night we wrapped right from My name is Earl. And

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we were heading back to the car and I remember

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the publicist that used to work for us.

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Speaker 1: What was their name. It'll come to you'll, it's fine.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, a publicist said to us, Hey, we got to

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make a decision. Well what's that She said, Well, you're

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booked for Leno tonight, because we're already in California. You

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remember this, Yes, and then and then, and you're booked

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for Letterman tomorrow night. But neither side wants guests one

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night after the next. They like to break it up. Okay,

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But the problem was there was a writer's strike or

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an actor's strike at the time. Remember that writer's strike?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you sure it was writers? Yeah? Okay because

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they I thought it was actors, really yep, okay, because

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they couldn't get anyone to do. I was talking to

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a writer on my name is okay, I was about

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to strike, yeah, and I was asking him why he

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wasn't striking, and he says, strikings for younger men. Is

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that what? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: They couldn't get guests for that reason. I guess there

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Speaker 1: They come to us. Well, we were scabs, scabs pretty much,

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scabs scabs, and uh, we were okay with that. I

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never felt bad about that. We did. We did have cards.

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We had our sad cards and everything that's true, just

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in order to do commercials right and different things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I remember we had to make a decision

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are we going to go on Letterman or Leno? And

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it was like last minute, dude, we were supposed to

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be heading over there, and I think the decision was

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made not to go on Leno, And the next night

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we ended up going on Letterman and I and I've

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always felt bad about this because she kind of does.

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I think it was a mistake, but we ended up

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going on Letterman the next night, and we kind of

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left Leno hanging. I think Leno after that was never

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happy with us, and he and the sad part about

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it is, truthfully, he was always so good to us,

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like like Leno was, Like we would go, we would

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ride with him, he took us to in and out

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every time we came on, he'd bring us to his collection,

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show us everything, you know. Yeah, and after that it

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was over. So I always felt bad about that. And

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Leno and an interview where he was dogging choppers and

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bikes and didn't have a lot of good things to

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say about us in general. And I think it really

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was more pertaining to the fact that we really kind

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of left him hanging, as opposed to.

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Speaker 1: And stuck in his craw.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he wasn't happy, and he was a

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good dude. We got along with him great. He called

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us the tuttel heads.

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Speaker 1: Fuck him. You know, he's calling you a piece of

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shit poking out of someone's I think he is, yet

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I mean not in so many words. Yeah, these guys

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are getting old too, man, maybe old crotchety. Yeah, I'll

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give you that. You know. No, You know, in showbiz

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there's a lot of hard feelings because it's so competitive,

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and they were really competitive with one another. And I

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think the thing that would hurt the most is that

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you're leaving the West Coast to go on a show

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on the East Coast while you're already there, right. You

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really think that bothered him. I really do.

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Speaker 2: And I think more so because A it was last minute,

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and B I think it was hard to get people

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to come on the late night shows because there was

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a boycott at the time.

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Speaker 1: Well stop being turds and let us be on both shows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they know they were, YEA, Yeah, I don't think

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it was an option. I think we had to choose.

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But then we love Dave so much because Dave had

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been really good to us as well, and I think

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it was a tough decision. And you know, Dave was

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like Dave would talk about us on his show when

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he had other guests on. Yea, Well, we weren't even

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like like like runner up to go out there on stage.

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You could just be watching him and some guests would

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come on and he would start talking about the show

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because you know, he did whatever he wanted.

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Speaker 1: So I feel he was closer to where we lived.

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He was right down the street, right down the street.

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It was such an easy one. And then you know,

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you go to the West Coast and you do that. Man,

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your brain's a little oh, dude, Marshmallows. You know, especially

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if you're going on a show or something. I remember

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being on Ellen and I was just like, I think

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we took a red eye and I didn't know where

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I was. It was like in a hate yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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we were on Ellen. Huh people, we went on Ellen,

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people talking in front of you.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, dude. We went on every single

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talk show. We went on Ellen, Martha Stewart, The View.

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Actually we were on The View with Barack Obama. You

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remember that, I do, and he wasn't. I think he

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was just start to talk about running for president. And

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we were on Leno with Donald Trump. So we were

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on two different talk shows back in the day with

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two different presidents before they were president.

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Speaker 1: I met Bob Hope in a gang bang. I met

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Jimmy Carter the rest area Is that real? No? It

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was in the woods behind it. It looked like Jimmy Carter. Yeah,

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he looked like a peanut farmer. Ye, no, who is

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Jimmy was it? Oh? Yeah, I'd know that mustache anyway. Wait,

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he didn't have a musstag, not for you? All right? Yeah?

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So Trump? And now where were Trump and Obama? Yeah? Yeah,

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we were on with with Obama. We were on the.

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Speaker 2: View with Obama. And back then the view was like

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milder Man had what's her name on it?

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Speaker 1: She's since passed on. The Barbara Barbara Walters was on there.

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She passed on, I believe. So yeah, yeah, you could

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stop writing her letters. Now, what a waste of time?

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Speaker 2: Uh and uh yeah. And then when we were on,

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we met Trump on Leno and we were out like

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like sharing the couch with him during the interview. It

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was kind of cool. You know, at the time, no

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one knew he would ever run for president. It wasn't

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like a conversation. Was he wearing cologne?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I couldn't, I can't. I can't remember

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back more than three days ago. I always wonder what

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Trump smells like, same thing with Obama. He smells like money.

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Probably smells like money, right, money, and like Jupe, probably

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wearing some of that Jupe is jupe. That's a fragrance.

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Oh yeah, no, man.

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Speaker 2: It probably smells like Jakar druck car, right, that's right,

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gray flannel, gray flannel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, We've had a lot of good experiences going

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on other shows. Oh.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorites of all time is King of

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the Hill. King of the Hill, How come on, man,

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we was a cartoon, dude. I actually like King of

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the Hill now more than this. I like the Simpsons.

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Oh yeah, yeah, I enjoy the show Scout that real

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kind of it's wholesome. Yeah, it's the last wholesome show.

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Yeah right, yeah, the pro pain and propane accessories.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It was these characters that you would assume

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that if at a glance, they'd be kind of flat,

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but they're like characters. I thought the writers for that

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show were brilliant, right, hard to pull that off in

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this world, you know it is, man. It was very

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hillbillysh but in a really good way. And remember.

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Speaker 2: Two, I mean Tom Petty was one of the characters,

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and Britney Murphy was one of the characters.

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Speaker 1: Now they had a lot of other characters, both of

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them murder, we conspiracy, the we wont get into that, no.

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Speaker 2: But I remember when we did the reading. We did

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like a like a live reading with them, yeah, on

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the phone. On the phone. We were like at the

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conference table yep. And they were in California, and they

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all did their voices in their role parts and we

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did our pieces.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my heart was thumping. You were nervous. Yeah,

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I'm nervous because you know, even though they're not there

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for a table read. You know, you got Tom Petty

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and Britney Murphy on the phone there. You don't want

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to just Tom Petty alone. Man, I know, Tom Petty,

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what a monster dude. It's thinking about starting like as

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soon as it comes to my line, you know, as

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I had like a line like rock and roll exclamation point,

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rock starts singing, won't back down. Oh you were just

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going to improvise, yeah yeah. And then I was hoping

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maybe he'd take me on tour with him, right, he

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probably would have. Right, it's like a backup singer, yeah,

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or like like a like a grip or a roadie.

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Like it's like a guy who buys drugs for the band,

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you know, yeah, be right back. The guy they don't

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mind gets arrested and then they leave him hanging right.

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Speaker 2: That was fun though, and when I think back on that,

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and at the time, I loved Tom Petty and uh,

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I remember like reading and thinking, Man, we've never really

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done anything quite like that, right, I mean that was

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the only cartoon we were on.

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Speaker 1: Is it? I think so? Yeah? I think maybe the

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only only time we did voices was for that video game.

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Oh that's right, like a voiceovers.

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Speaker 2: I feel like maybe Dad was on Celebrity Deathmatch. Remember

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how they used to do that and they like rip

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each other's heads off and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You remember that that TV had that? Yeah, that was

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like that was like being on DC Folly's or something. Yeah, right,

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flattering to have your it was to have your character's

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head ripped off in the ring or something like that. Yeah.

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But I think he took on Dog the Bounty Hunter

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in one of those Is that what it was? That's brilliant, man,

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We should find that. But I don't think he did

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the voice. I don't think they had to get anyone's

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permission for that, So they just had voice actors do

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the voices, right, and you know, the the what.

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Speaker 2: Was the what was the storyline for us in that

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they hire us to come out for doing some marketing

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for whatever.

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Speaker 1: Business. That's right, that's right, and we are over fuel

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oil or something like. Yeah, we get up on stage

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and we're like whoo, and they're like, where's the bike?

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And then that started a melee and then we're jumping

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off the stage. Yeah. I think Mikey's on the bike. Mikey. Yeah,

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I think Mikey. Yeah me what he worked? Yeah, I

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think he's on the bike, right, and he's like he

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comes flying through and yells rock and roll. Oh do

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you I don't know. No, I think you jump in.

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I know. I think you jump into the crowd and

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start the fight. Oh really or something. Yeah, we got

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to watch that. That's pretty true to life. Yeah, we should.

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We should watch that together. We should watch it because

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I've only seen it once.

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Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, it was a long time ago, and now

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do what was it like two thousand and five something

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like that.

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Speaker 1: It was twenty years ago. But every now and again,

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one of my uh, one of my friend's kids enjoy

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watching that show, you know, late night or something, yep,

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and they'll mention that they saw me on there. Really,

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it'll make me feel like i'm someone still. Yeah, you're

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like see that instead of nobody see that, which is

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what I am. Let's face it, geez man, Okay, what else?

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What else have we been on that's good? What other

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kind of crossovers? I'm trying to think of crossover shows?

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Crossover shows. Oh, we were in that rock star video

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rock Star. Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the band.

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They were huge and they're a good band. Yeah yeah,

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so I ditched out and like my solo thing, what

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didn't you like about them? Then? I didn't like their music,

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oh gotcha, which was like yacht rock? Is that like

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yacht rock? Is that? What is that? What's that? What's that?

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What's that considered? You don't like the song Brandy? Yeah,

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that's sort of a is it steely Dan's kind of

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yacht rock? Okay, okay, that would be like alternative alternative pop? Really,

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I guess an alternative was was sort of a shitty brand.

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It's it's and it's a word that should be like,

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not a subgenre. I think it should be like a description, gotcha,

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not an actual genre of music.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, we were in a rockstar video and it was

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like everybody was in that.

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Speaker 1: Remember everybody, Like every every like two seconds, there was

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some other person, celebrities, athletes, everybody. Yeah, they got like

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like a million different people to do lines from. Yeah,

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how many people were doing lines this one? Right?

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Speaker 2: Just one out of all million people there? Uh no, seriously,

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I feel like that was it was cool though, you know.

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Speaker 1: It was cool. I really didn't like the band. You

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mentioned that and then in the video. Well, this is

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what I'm saying, is like I regret not doing it

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because like that's an asshole thing to do. You know,

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that would have been good exposure, you know, at least wait,

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you weren't in it. I'm in it, but I'm only

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in the three shot with you and the old man. Oh. Oh,

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you didn't get in the solo thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh because because you They were like all right, Mikey,

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it's time for your solo.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you're up next. I'm going home. I'm getting drunk.

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Is that real? Yeah? I went home. They were like, hey,

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they want you, they want you back here, and I

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was like, fuck you really? Yeah? Wait?

465
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Speaker 2: We shot where we shoot at the shop, at the shop,

466
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,759
so it couldn't be any easier.

467
00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:36,519
Speaker 1: And I live five minutes down the road, you know,

468
00:23:36,599 --> 00:23:38,759
And you really screwed that up. I screwed Now the

469
00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:41,119
band you hate's gonna hate you back no, because this

470
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,279
is an apology. Oh yeah, this hopefully get me some

471
00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:46,119
sort of redempt. Well, let's hear it then, I mean,

472
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,599
you got to say it outright. I didn't hear any apology.

473
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:54,880
I'd like to apologize to Nickelback, the entire banding. The

474
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,119
name of the band is Nickelback. Nickelback, Yeah, Nickelback, And you.

475
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 2: Know, I don't you know at the time, they were dude,

476
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,400
they were huge, bro, they were selling out like stadiums.

477
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: I know. And they were nice enough to let me

478
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,480
in their video.

479
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,799
Speaker 2: They were and you you rejected them as a I

480
00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:12,359
feel shame.

481
00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I need to apologize. So I'm sorry Nickelback.

482
00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:20,400
You look at the camera. Sorry Nickelback. You know, is

483
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,079
there a humbler way to do it? You have to

484
00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:26,640
do it to all the members Nickelbacks. Oh, I'm sorry Nickelbacks.

485
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:30,000
I don't know any of the names of the band.

486
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,599
That's fine. They know you were drinking at the time.

487
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: I had a problem. Yeah, and they're not going to

488
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,559
hold it against you. That's like a band thing. Most

489
00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:40,640
of these band members have issues at some point in

490
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,920
time with drugs or alcohol.

491
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:48,559
Speaker 1: Come on, I've loaded up a retraction for that. Apology.

492
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,880
You know, well that's good.

493
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: Well, like the next podcast, reel it back and we'll

494
00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:57,519
talk about it again, and we will go, well, let's

495
00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:00,240
we'll go back and watch the video, okay, and you

496
00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:01,640
could see exactly where I'm missing.

497
00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they double up kid rock in those shots. Yeah.

498
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:07,799
Speaker 2: Maybe we can even somehow superimpose you your single shot

499
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,720
into the video.

500
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: That'd be kind of fun, you know, yeah, redamn, sure,

501
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,240
maybe send it to the band members, and to the

502
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:20,119
band members the nickelbacks individual one of them. Yeah, it's

503
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,160
got to be thirty cents worth of nickels in that, man,

504
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:28,759
I would say. So, remember we did the guitar hero thing. No, oh,

505
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,960
this is good though on that. No, they came and

506
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,359
did that at the house. It's maybe something I forgot

507
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,160
remember that. It was kind of like a knockoff song

508
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:43,599
from another song. There you go record that. Actually we

509
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,079
did record that, I know, but that one. But you

510
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,880
know what happens, they can pull away like quick enough

511
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,960
where it doesn't have that gotcha. You know, it's like okay, So.

512
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: You know, I always wonder I feel like you're a

513
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,519
really creative guy, and I feel like I have a

514
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:04,960
good level of creativity certainly, certainly, And you know, I'm

515
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,960
just trying to figure out like mine's potential. Well, no,

516
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:10,359
I've seen you do some pretty creative stuff. Man, you

517
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,559
got a good mind for it.

518
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: I do. So what is where do you think that

519
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,279
comes from?

520
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: I mean family wise, obviously God provides all these gifts.

521
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: But but like, who in the family? I got my thoughts.

522
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,960
I want to hear your thoughts on this. Who in

523
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,920
the family. I think I think our parents were a

524
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,640
perfect storm. Yeah. Yeah, and there's all kinds of variables

525
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,559
flying around in there, could have landed in any direction. Okay,

526
00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:37,960
because you know, you ever see some families they have

527
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,359
like four kids and all four are the same. We're

528
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,200
all like undertakers. Dad's an undertaker whatever, you know what

529
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,960
I mean, we don't have that. We have a great

530
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,519
We were the four corners of the globe, the four

531
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,640
of us. Yeah, I know, so diverse. You think in ways,

532
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,640
you know, not in humor, Yeah, I guess you're right.

533
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,279
I think in interest, Yeah, I think we all vary

534
00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:01,079
in Yeah, I think.

535
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: I think you're right, and then creatively different things interest us.

536
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,799
I have a theory and I came up with this,

537
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,880
like it was like maybe like ten years ago that

538
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,920
I even first thought about this, And I thought, like,

539
00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,240
when I thought about my creativity and in the aspect

540
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,440
of which I apply it, which is kind of like

541
00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:21,039
hands on. Yeah, I always think about Grandpa. I think

542
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:22,720
about Mom's dad.

543
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: He is a hard working guy.

544
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a guy who could build a

545
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,799
house by himself. He was very skilled, right, Yes, he

546
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,960
was skilled. He pour concrete, he'd do framing, he'd do masonry,

547
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,599
he'd do roofing, he'd like remember he came and stayed

548
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:42,160
with us and put an extension on our house and

549
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,960
did it by himself, and he poured the foundation by hand.

550
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,400
I mean, yes, he was hard working. But you talk

551
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,759
about you couldn't get a more capable guy, you know.

552
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, so because there's a lot of people willing to

553
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,200
put in the work but not attain the skill.

554
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: That's right, And he did it on a different level.

555
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,440
You know, he's had no he was He worked with excellence,

556
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,039
you know. And so I always think back in like, Okay,

557
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:06,759
he didn't have the opportunity to like build motorcycles or

558
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:08,839
be on television or anything like that, but.

559
00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: Sure depression era, he certainly raised his family, yeah, or

560
00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:13,359
his siblings.

561
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just worked his butt off his whole life,

562
00:28:16,519 --> 00:28:18,559
and he was really good at things, you know. So

563
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,200
I think in some ways you get that kind of thing,

564
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:24,559
you know. That's that's where I think he was a

565
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,559
real influence too, because he didn't die until how old

566
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:28,440
were you? Sixteen?

567
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

568
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:31,559
Speaker 2: Well, growing up he was always around and like he

569
00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:34,039
would even stay with us for long periods of time,

570
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,480
especially when he was putting the extension on the house.

571
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: When we were growing up. Yeah.

572
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,759
Speaker 2: And then so yeah, that's what I think I mean

573
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:43,240
in terms of that like people, And don't get me wrong,

574
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:45,799
I mean I feel like Dad's creative to a point

575
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:50,960
in a different kind of way, you know, but everyone's

576
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,839
got their gifts and they go Mom, I feel like

577
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,759
Mom was creative as well. I think Mom, you know,

578
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,559
she had like a she would always do all kinds

579
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:01,920
of things, you know, mac remae. When I was a kid,

580
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:04,119
that was like a thing you do, like the beads

581
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:06,720
and the braiding, and she was always into that. She

582
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:09,200
did a lot of like pottery painting, and you know

583
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,640
that that pottery place was over there in Montgomery.

584
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,839
Speaker 1: So I think she was I think she could have

585
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,440
been a good singer. But I think we used to

586
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,720
boo who were a Lot. I think we did boo

587
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:20,960
who Were a Lot? But we were a tough crowden

588
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:27,720
rotten kids, brutal Now I think, honestly, I think mom. Uh.

589
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: I think that life wasn't that easy growing up with dad,

590
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:36,240
especially in his years of heavy drinking. So I think

591
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:38,559
that might have put a damper on some aspirations. I

592
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,519
think that happens. Plus, I think she was more concerned

593
00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:44,559
about making sure her kids were okay than you know,

594
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:46,079
following her dream.

595
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: Or just making sure she had kids. Some people don't

596
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:52,359
want anything other than that. Yeah, that's true.

597
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: And you know, I a oh, yeah, she definitely a spy.

598
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,200
She definitely loved having kids. She loved the and a

599
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,720
mom question question. And that's a real Uh. That's a

600
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:04,240
real job.

601
00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: By the way, that's a real, real job.

602
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: People think it's not, and they're idiots. I know they're idiots.

603
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:11,599
If you think being a mom is not a real job.

604
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,000
It's it's a tough job too when you think about it, Yeah,

605
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,799
because it never ends, especially when you're married to Paul Senior.

606
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:21,039
Speaker 1: It's a really tough job. I guess if you're married

607
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:24,400
to anybody. It's a tough job, even under the best circumstances.

608
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: No, the best circumstances is probably a little easier because

609
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,519
you got help. But if you don't have help. And

610
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,160
I'm not dogging Dad, because Dad worked his butt off.

611
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,839
He did put food out, put food on the table,

612
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,599
but he also had a drinking problem which got in

613
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:40,160
the way of relationships.

614
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,799
Speaker 1: And I can relate and being there, you know, you

615
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:46,160
can relate. Yeah, not in a sense of having a

616
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:52,000
wife or kids. Right to spare people, Spare the world

617
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:56,000
children from ky tuttle, Little Mikey's You sure there's no

618
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,200
little Mikey's out, No man every now and again. I

619
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,359
think maybe in South Carolin hatched hatched a few somewhere, Yeah,

620
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,759
someone one of the bike weeks. Yeah, way down south

621
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,160
or down in the Bayou. Yeah, yeah, somewhere, or somewhere

622
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,279
in Pennsylvania swamps of New Orleans. Yea picture, somewhere in

623
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,559
rural Pennsylvania, New Orleans. It's not people do lines, frank, huh.

624
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,960
People like rural Pennsylvania where people do lines. Yeah, yeah,

625
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,680
where they're making the what's that, what's that? They're still

626
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:34,000
sniffing tape? Head cleaner is that right? Yeah, the VHS tape, gotcha, gotcha.

627
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,000
This place reminds me of vacation. I mean already talked

628
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,359
about the island or even your place. Yeah, your house

629
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:43,359
being on vacation. You stand out the front right, beautiful,

630
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:47,640
sitting on the porch, watch the breakers. Yeah, you feed

631
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,880
him by hand. Dolphins swim with you.

632
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,319
Speaker 2: I've never seen a seal here, but they do show

633
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,359
up once in a while, but I've never seen one.

634
00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make the place sound oh dolphins, but

635
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:01,160
it is beautiful. I do ride dolphins here, it's right.

636
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,440
And you called them by name. They're Scooter and Twig,

637
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,039
Scooter Twig like that. Yeah, I know, you're right. It's

638
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,799
picturesque here, man. This is a vacation place, you know,

639
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,559
And it reminds me of vacation. And then it also

640
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,319
reminds me of like we'd go to time shares and

641
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:19,960
stuff like that. Oh yeah, back in the day, they

642
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,079
weren't so nice. I would never complain about him, but

643
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:24,400
they weren't nearly as nice as as like your place.

644
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,079
Speaker 2: Well, we didn't know any better at the time, that shit,

645
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,480
we didn't know. We were just happy to be on vacation.

646
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:32,240
We didn't know there was nice places you could visit. No,

647
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,880
we would got fifty people into a trailer. Yeah, we

648
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,519
would go to tree Tops and fern Wood. Right, yeah,

649
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,519
remember that. The It was awesome indoor outdoor pool. Come on,

650
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:43,119
who has an indoor outdoor pool.

651
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: Roller skating rink, roller skating a shooting gallery that worked

652
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,440
through like photon beams. Oh yeah, that's right, remember that. Yeah,

653
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,720
that's right. Whom the outhouse would open up the guys.

654
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would get one of those timeshare bungalows and

655
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,039
it would be a great time.

656
00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Go by the pool. Yeah, we'd go to Shawnee Town

657
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:04,759
the water park. It was good with the nets and

658
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,960
you know, fun stuff. Yeah, we had a lot of

659
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,079
fun stuff. Man. Back then, we our vacations were pretty wild.

660
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:12,799
You remember we stayed at a place I think we

661
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:14,839
were a little out of our class. It was in

662
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Connecticut and we were It was a nicer place. We

663
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:19,160
played a lot of tennis. We did play a lot

664
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,400
of tennis. Clay court. They did have a clay court. Yeah,

665
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,680
we were all like playing with work boots had Yeah,

666
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,480
I had craters fucked up, we did. We were complete

667
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:35,680
Neanderthals yelling at each other stopping the ground. Ye, brutal Neander.

668
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:38,640
I feel like we touched on this once before, but

669
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,359
it's worth talking about again because spiked and hit me

670
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,119
in the face of the ball. Yeah, that was bad.

671
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,160
We talked about that though, we did. Yeah, that was bad.

672
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,119
Though your whole face was horrible. It's still fucked up.

673
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,119
I wasn't going to say anything. Let me do it, goodness,

674
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,960
otherwise it'll hurt. Yeah, okay, good, good call, good call. Yeah.

675
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:01,400
We had great vacations. Man.

676
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,599
Speaker 2: We never went far now. We were like we were

677
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,039
in New York minutes. Yeah, North Carolina. We go to Connecticut.

678
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:12,760
Sometimes we go to like Mystic mainly the Poconoas Pennsylvania. Yeah,

679
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,760
just because we had the timeshare, you know, yep.

680
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,079
Speaker 1: Well, lots of fun. We would always we had It's simple, right,

681
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:20,480
and we would have a lot of fun going to

682
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:22,519
the ocean. We had a lot of tackle each other

683
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:24,840
in the waves. Oh, bro, we were brutal. Get carried

684
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,599
down the ocean, like you know, you get carried, get

685
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:31,039
carried away. I was just talking to Nate, nasty Nate

686
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,280
over there and uh man. Back in the day.

687
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,119
Speaker 2: I growing up, every year we would go to the shore,

688
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,559
and that was vacation, Like the beach was vacation, you know, yep,

689
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:42,639
getting wiped out by the waves. I mean that was

690
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,800
the earliest memories of vacation was definitely, you know, the

691
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:46,599
Jersey Shore.

692
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you eat some crap at night and then

693
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,119
go back out with yeah, you know, drink a warm

694
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,880
coke with sand in it. I remember when I was young, man,

695
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,800
we were at the boardwalk. I was very young, and

696
00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:00,719
I got like separated from my parents and I was

697
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,599
completely lost on the boardwalk. And I remember I went,

698
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,719
I was young, young, and I went and found a

699
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,840
cop and they were freaking out. Mom and dad were

700
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,480
freaking out, and sure enough, I just hung with the

701
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:12,360
cop and they brought me over to him and I

702
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,199
was back in action. But man, I was young. I

703
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,679
was maybe like five five or six maybe something that

704
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,119
you knew to go to a cop. I knew to

705
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:21,679
go to a cop.

706
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,639
Speaker 2: I don't know how I knew, but my mom must

707
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:25,519
have told me, if you ever get lost, go to

708
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:26,760
go find a police officer.

709
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: And I did well because you used to wander, she said,

710
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,480
you used to try to run constantly.

711
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: I was like, like, my son was like that, man,

712
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,360
turn your back and he's gone.

713
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,679
Speaker 1: He's gone. When he was young, dude, he would just bowl.

714
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,280
That's the scariest and you can't catch him, and she's

715
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,079
laughing and running, you know. Yeah, he had a laugh

716
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,440
like an evil scientist. Yes, I know, I kid. Yeah,

717
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:55,280
he loves that stuff. That man perfectly too. Yeah. He

718
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,280
loves having you here. I love hanging out with him. Yeah,

719
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,599
he he, he loves having you to hang out with. Man.

720
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:03,960
You guys, he watched a silent film with me yesterday

721
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:07,719
called Safety Last Our thirteen minutes. I was impressed because

722
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,280
he didn't want me to fast forward it to like

723
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,800
the action part at the end. Really yeah, And I

724
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,960
had to explain to him all the antiquated phrases and

725
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:19,079
everything they were doing, like they used to put nickels

726
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:21,960
and phones and shit like that. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah wow.

727
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:23,719
And he was interested the whole time. Yeah, you know,

728
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,880
he's like that. He's a really interesting kid. He's really fascinating.

729
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,239
Anybody who's been able to watch a silent film with me, really, anybody, nobody, nobody,

730
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,320
let alone an older film from the forties and thirties. Yeah.

731
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,840
As he gets older, man, he's really his own guy.

732
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,400
It really is. I could never watch that silent film

733
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,960
with you like that. I know, we just nobody could

734
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:45,920
walk away. I might have walked away, but I felt

735
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,079
like I owed it to the kid, you know. Yeah,

736
00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:51,440
Yeah it's good. He's a sweetheart. Yeah, he's a sweat kid,

737
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,000
isn't he. He's a sweet person. He's just a sweet person. Yeah,

738
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:55,639
he is. Man.

739
00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 2: All the kids love him, the teachers love him. He's

740
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,880
he's very kind. That's the thing about him, you know.

741
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,239
And it's just that kind of thing you really you

742
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,719
can teach it, but you if you can't enforce it,

743
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,760
you can't really enforce it. No, he's a natural inclination

744
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,880
for him and a sweet kind kid. I feel very

745
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,039
good about that. You know, you could have things with

746
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:15,599
learning and all that that you could overcome. But and

747
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:18,480
he has done very well. He doing straight a's in school.

748
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,000
He's doing very good. And it wasn't always that way,

749
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:24,639
so he's worked hard to get doing good. But I

750
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:27,840
will say the one thing that I always felt really

751
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,480
good about is that he's always kind. And I've even

752
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:33,239
had like he's really good with younger kids. So I've

753
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,079
even had like parents come up to me and say, man,

754
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:38,920
your son has been so good with my three.

755
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,039
Speaker 1: Year old given or you know, will give up stuff. Yeah,

756
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,400
he is an unusual amount of patience. He does. He

757
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,239
gets rambunctious like any little kid.

758
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:49,639
Speaker 2: But he has a lot of patients patients tedious even

759
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:53,840
with Desi with Kristen Son. Yeah, Desi is is my nephew,

760
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,320
my sister's son and uh for those who don't know.

761
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:01,119
And he's very y or like a little there's little brothers.

762
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: Man.

763
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: They are so it's good. It's good when you're like that.

764
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,559
You know, I have so much fun with that kid. Dude,

765
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:10,000
what do you talk about like having your life enriched

766
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:13,079
by someone? I mean, I could never imagine life without them.

767
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:16,079
I mean, I just kids are so always here.

768
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: You know, it's shining. Yeah positive.

769
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, I'm saying it's really good, really good stuff.

770
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,079
But I'm going to even have them on this podcast.

771
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: You should. I'm good. I'll see what do you want

772
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,760
to see how it goes? I don't know.

773
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:32,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, be prepared next time because you get jammed

774
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:34,199
up with a kid or oh yeah, yeah, I want

775
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,599
to you know what, I know, you know what I

776
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:36,920
want to talk to him about. I want to talk

777
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,079
to him about all these these things that they say

778
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:43,239
these kids today, riz and yacht and all these things.

779
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,440
I have no idea what they mean.

780
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, so you can examine the generational game. Are

781
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,679
you familiar with any of these terms? O, dude, they're mean.

782
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:55,639
Are kids still saying fire fire? I think so, yeah,

783
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,679
fire and stuff like that. You just yeat, yeat, yeat?

784
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,519
What's yeat? I don't know. That's what a kid. That's

785
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:07,280
exactly what I'm going to have him on for. I

786
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,159
want to understand the kid's language today. What are these

787
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:16,360
kids talking about behind our backs? They're probably I said,

788
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:17,559
you probably don't want to know.

789
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: I said something about riz and I said, man, I

790
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,119
got tons of RIZ and he said, Dad, you.

791
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:26,079
Speaker 1: Got zero rizh shit. I know I score a very

792
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:29,800
long the riz A. Well, everybody's dad does. Yeah, I

793
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,119
guess you're right. I worked out with my friend's kid

794
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,840
just because his kid won't work out with him because

795
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,800
he won't listen to them. And it's so funny because

796
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,440
Danny Claudia just walked in the room. And when I

797
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:42,199
was young, dude, and Danny came from the city. Yeah,

798
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,079
you know, he talked a certain way, and then I

799
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:46,239
would talk that way, and we would use all these

800
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,440
terms and Dad hated it. It was very homeboyish, you know.

801
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:52,760
And Dad was like, be yourself, you don't have to

802
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,559
be someone else. And you know, he just it's like

803
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:57,880
an age. It was like fourteen years old trying to

804
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:02,519
try and sh exactly. So he's right, though, I know,

805
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:04,639
I give him a little well, I give you yeah,

806
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,239
you know, you also have to like, I think there's

807
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,199
these well think about it. What are we say in

808
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,000
the ages? But you're not wrong? But he was right.

809
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:13,559
You know, that's good advice. It's good advice on a whole.

810
00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:15,960
But you know, it's you're just you're just learning to

811
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,639
be a person at that age. Sure, you're puberty.

812
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,599
Speaker 2: Fit in going through puberty, you know, stuff like that.

813
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,079
So I think it's changing. I try and give him.

814
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:26,480
I try and give him some room. I never give

815
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:28,719
him a hard time about that stuff. Oh don't talk

816
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,360
like that. I just figured this is the way kids

817
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,159
are talking.

818
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: You know. But Dad was you know, Dad was not

819
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,559
he was rough. He's pretty rough. Oh yeah, but I

820
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,440
think everybody's dad was right. I think so yeah. They

821
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:42,599
you know, they used to talking about how when you

822
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:44,760
used to have sleepovers, or you'd sleep over. I'd sleep

823
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,519
over the Murphys and we'd go and read the fridge.

824
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:50,800
It's really good granol in the fridge, and it would

825
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,840
be nighttime. And their father would hear us every time,

826
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,760
and he come flying down the steps into tidy whities

827
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,679
and balls bounce and scream in his fucking head. And

828
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:03,800
he was a nice guy. Yeah, he was super nice guy.

829
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,599
Fathers were a lot more aggressive. They were I think

830
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:09,000
they were pissed off, and they were mostly angry. They

831
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:10,880
worked hard, they didn't have a lot to show for it,

832
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,920
and they were angry. They were angry kind of. But

833
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,239
I mean, if your kids like going upstairs and with

834
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:19,400
it with a sleepover and they're like, oh, I wouldn't

835
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,280
care now, But but I gotta be honest with you.

836
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,440
We're kind of sissy parents now these days in what way?

837
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:25,639
In just every way?

838
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: Oh you mean too soft to all of us, every parent,

839
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,519
and it exists in this day and age. I'm not

840
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:35,199
for like hitting kids, but probably some kids need to

841
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,599
be smacked once.

842
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: In a while, right, And.

843
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:41,559
Speaker 2: We let him get away with everything. We're like suckers.

844
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:44,519
We don't really follow up with punishments. Maybe I'm just

845
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:47,360
speaking for myself. Don't get me wrong, Hudson's a.

846
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: Great kuyt around the board. Everybody's like a little bit

847
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,519
so their kids are telling them to go fuck themselves.

848
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:53,440
Yeah you're saying it.

849
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,079
Speaker 2: I'm not getting that, but you're right, I think it

850
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:59,599
well way if they don't listen to you, I guess.

851
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: They're saying where they argue on the same level. Right.

852
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,400
You know, you'll see him going back and forth and

853
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,840
you're like, you're not getting anywhere like that. No, I mean,

854
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,800
I'm not going to tell him that. No. Well, fortunately

855
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,519
we got a good kid.

856
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 2: You know what I've found through the years with him

857
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:17,440
is we love on him, dude. Yeah, and like I

858
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,000
feel like it. It makes up for a lot of

859
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:23,000
things good and bad on both sides. Just you know

860
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:26,320
that he knows that he's safe and that we love him.

861
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:28,639
Twenty four to seven. He is the most loving kid.

862
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:30,679
He will curl up on your life. He curls up

863
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:33,199
on my lap every morning when he's waking up.

864
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: You know who comes I drinking my coffee and I'll

865
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,119
put it down. He'll just and he's this big.

866
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:42,159
Speaker 2: He's like arms and legs are flopping everywhere. He curls

867
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:43,639
up in a ball and I'll just give him a

868
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:45,440
pat on the back and he wakes up like that.

869
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: He's very uh sweet, Yeah he is. He's very huggy, lovey,

870
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:52,400
you know. And I know that I know that that's

871
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,400
going to go away eventually because he's just getting bigger

872
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,639
and older. And he's thirteen. I'm telling you from the street, dude,

873
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:02,760
ten is the new like fifteen. It really is these kids,

874
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,559
especially for him. He looks like he's fifteen. No, he doesn't.

875
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: He's tall, so he does look older. But I just

876
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,320
think kids are like way more mature earlier.

877
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, it's it's in the food. I think it

878
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:20,320
might be. I think it might be technology. Like you know, people,

879
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,840
kids are afforded a lot more information than they were

880
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,679
when we were young. We didn't know as much. I mean,

881
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,159
they know there's so much, you know, just with everything,

882
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:31,320
you know, the way it's out there.

883
00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: I like it here in LBI though. The schools are great.

884
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,760
That's why we moved here, and we're in a bit

885
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,760
of a bubble. He doesn't have a lot of exposure

886
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,320
to like much older kids, so he's not picking up

887
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,360
those habits. Sure, you know, when you have a kid

888
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,719
who's ten. You want him to be you really want

889
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,960
him to be a ten year old? Yeah, a ten

890
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,559
year old skin You want him to be innocent as

891
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:57,079
long as yeah, anything exactly, just innocent, not really cross

892
00:43:57,159 --> 00:43:59,480
to bad things. Now, and some people don't have any

893
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:01,960
you know, the people live in inner cities, and there's

894
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,840
there's no way around exposing kids to bad things early on.

895
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,480
But here we're in a bit of a bubble, and

896
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:10,719
I ain't mad at it, to be honestly, keep them

897
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,519
young as long as you can, that's what I say.

898
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:17,039
Speaker 1: Well you should, you know, I agree. Keep the innocence, yep,

899
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,320
until they hit that rebellious Uh, then you deal with

900
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,840
that next phase. Yeah, we'll see one step at a time,

901
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,880
you know. Just healthy and that's all you can hope for,

902
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:32,639
you know. Amen, Yes, sir, that's good. I didn't have kids.

903
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,920
Nobody wants to meet with let's talk about that. I

904
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,400
don't know what happened. Yeah, a few years. Jeez, you're good.

905
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,360
You could have kids till you're seventy, I guess. But

906
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,400
like I'm forty six now, right, So once my kid

907
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,679
graduates high school. If I had the kid today, it

908
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:53,599
would be nine months from now, so's that put me

909
00:44:53,639 --> 00:44:58,400
out fifty six sixty four. Yeah, that's some of my

910
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,960
kids graduating high school and I start collecting uh seli security.

911
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:07,159
Yeah that's fine, not good. I think it's a before Yeah.

912
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, some they had all these guys they have like

913
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,360
they have like three families anymore, you know.

914
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: So you're good? All right? Well, first, you know, lady,

915
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:21,880
I mean, well, let's talk about that. No, I think

916
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,159
we could talk about that right here. And now let's

917
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,039
let's see what are you looking for. I'm not if

918
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:32,119
you were. If you were, oh, if I was, like

919
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,440
you know, I really find good people attractive now, like

920
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,599
just good, just good. They don't have to look any

921
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:39,199
kind of way. They don't have to look great. Let's

922
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,079
talk about the looks. Okay, well, what do you like?

923
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,039
I love blue eyes and blonde hair okay, or blue

924
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,440
eyes and black hair okay, but the blue eyes or

925
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,679
brown brown eyes and red hair, or blue eyes, green

926
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,360
eyes and red hair okay. I like brown eyes and

927
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,440
blonde hair. Okay, it covers pretty much everyone. Yeah, hazel eyes,

928
00:45:59,480 --> 00:45:59,920
black hair.

929
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: You're the only one who got blue eyes on our family.

930
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:05,119
You got grandpa's eyes. That dad's dad had blue eyes

931
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:07,440
and his looks. You did kind of get his looks

932
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:12,280
a little bit you were born.

933
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,599
Speaker 1: What grandpa looked like? Do we have a photo of him?

934
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:18,440
You know what? They called him a handsome His name

935
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:18,920
was Paul.

936
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,119
Speaker 2: They called him Mick because he looked like Mickey Rooney

937
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,760
when he was young. When he was young, he looked

938
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,159
like Mickey Rooney. No, no, Mickey Rooney was a good

939
00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:27,800
looking guy.

940
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he was older, I think he looked like

941
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:34,599
Chet from Weird Sign. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, maybe I don't

942
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:37,039
yeah maybe maybe not really, you know, I think like

943
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:39,199
he was a good looking guy when he was younger,

944
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,440
you know, so I think that's good man. There's still

945
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,159
hope for you, bro.

946
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,639
Speaker 2: You can find one of these redheaded, brown eyed, dark haired,

947
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,559
blue eyed yep chicks.

948
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,199
Speaker 1: Hazel, Hazel. I think you had a lot of options.

949
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:56,119
I have none. You have what you're I don't. I

950
00:46:56,119 --> 00:47:00,159
don't try though, Yeah, Samnes, why is that? Why do

951
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,920
you try? What do you think? I don't? You don't

952
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,480
like I don't want to put my energy into it

953
00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:07,079
right now? Yeah, yeah, I want to put it into

954
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:12,239
my interests. But as a result, you know, getting any

955
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,239
ladies with any companionship in that regard. Yeah, you're like

956
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,079
a loaner, a rebel. Wasn't that from Pee Wee Herman? Yeah,

957
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:24,039
PE's Big Adventure. Yeah, how that line goes, I'm a loaner, Dowdy,

958
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,800
a rebel. There you go, Doddy, you don't want to

959
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,639
get mixed up with a guy like me. That's right, loaner.

960
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,280
And then later on when what's his name? Uh oh

961
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,880
the guy played in James Browl Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

962
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,880
it's beaiging mister Herman. Mister Herman. Yeah, and that's pee

963
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,800
Wee's like, yeah, that's his guest spot. Yeah, that's right,

964
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,280
that's a cameo. Yeah, it's funny. I love Pev Herman Man.

965
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,480
He was awesome. When's the last time you watched that film?

966
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:51,199
It's been a while. He had a couple other ones,

967
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:53,760
but nothing like that first film. The first film was

968
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,360
just bomb. Yeah. I've watched Big Top Pee Weee a

969
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,119
lot recently. It's not good. It's okay.

970
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: It's a little Carnie. That was Tim Burton. Oh yeah,

971
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:05,360
that's why that's the carnif flavor. I guess you know

972
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,159
in that one.

973
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, the original was just no, I mean the originals.

974
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:11,159
Tim Burton original was Timburton Okay, yeah, well it was

975
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:15,719
such a great movie, you know, tell him Marge sent Yeah,

976
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,880
I watched it like last year with her nephew was

977
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:21,039
damn oh yeah a great. Yeah, it still holds up.

978
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,719
We should watch it with Hudson. I agree, he would

979
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,159
love that movie. Yeah.

980
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: Very creative. Yep, I'll say that about Pee Wee Herman.

981
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,920
That guy was really creative.

982
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: He before that was different. He had that thing on HBO,

983
00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:35,719
wasn't it. Remember we were well, I'm the luckiest boy

984
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,480
in the world, remember, And it was kind of dirty

985
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:40,920
his stage act. It was kind of dirty. I had

986
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,920
a double one tendre thing where if a kid was

987
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,239
watching it, they wouldn't get any of the jokes, right

988
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,119
because I didn't when I was a kid, right, and

989
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:49,079
I watched it as an adult. I was like, holy shit,

990
00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:51,280
Yeah you know what to I feel like SpongeBob is

991
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,519
really like that. Yeah, SpongeBob's come here. A lot of

992
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:57,719
weird stuff in it. Man, that's weird, KINI bottom is

993
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,079
that where they live? Yeah? What is that that? Yeah?

994
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:05,800
You know, yep, there's something Mister Crab plus SpongeBob doesn't

995
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:11,239
really teach anybody anything, no other than you know, maybe shoes. No,

996
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,320
it's not educational at all. Now, it's just mud for

997
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,000
the mind, it is. It's probably shilling all kinds of

998
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,440
subliminal ship big time. Right.

999
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think if you really dug into it,

1000
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:26,679
you see a lot of weird stuff in there. SpongeBob Man, Yeah,

1001
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,039
he's fucked up this world. Coming to Mickey doesn't help

1002
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,840
too many people either. I love Mickey, but he doesn't

1003
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,440
help no. I mean he helps his friends, and that's

1004
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,840
like the lesson. I think some of these shows have

1005
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,679
some education into him. But you know, bugs, some of

1006
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:43,280
them are weird.

1007
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,159
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you go back. Those are good. Those

1008
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:47,480
are good cartoons. They are great. Yeah. Yeah, the Bugs

1009
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,559
Bunny and even the old Mickey Mouse cartoons are really

1010
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:52,480
fun to one. Yeah. I was just telling, uh, the

1011
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:55,920
Bugs Bunny Man, that's like really great stuff. Yeah, it's action,

1012
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:59,000
that's comedy, you know. I was just talking to Hudson

1013
00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:02,320
about Heckle and Jackal. We looked them up. They're magpros

1014
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,719
to Magpies. Magpie Magpies. It's a cool name. Yeah. Is

1015
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,519
that a crow or that's just that you know, it's

1016
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:09,320
a type of crow.

1017
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: It's a bird. I don't know if it's a crow,

1018
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,880
but it's a magpie. They're a little bigger. They got

1019
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,480
bigger beaks. They're extremely smart. Okay, they're like ravens.

1020
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,039
Speaker 1: Okay, Ravens the smartest animal, right, I.

1021
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: Think so birdy Yeah, yeah, man, I used to love

1022
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:30,599
the whole cartoons.

1023
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,519
Speaker 1: Tom and Jerry.

1024
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: All right, listen, I think we should wrap this and

1025
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:31,960
get back to it later.

1026
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:35,119
Speaker 1: I always feel bad for Wiley coyote. Oh yeah, yeah,

1027
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:37,920
Well he's always getting the rock dropped on, hes getting

1028
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,760
blown up, burned, smashed into the side of a building.

1029
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:44,159
Never gets the bird. And the thing is, you don't

1030
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:46,920
really like the roadrunner because I mean, everybody's rooting for

1031
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,320
the road Runner because the don't want to see him

1032
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,199
get killed, right, But he doesn't have much personality. No,

1033
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:56,440
he's kind of flat. Wiley had all the person he did. Man. Actually,

1034
00:50:56,519 --> 00:50:59,159
just meat. Meat, that's all he had, you know. Roadrunner

1035
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:01,960
had meat meat, that's it. He might give a look

1036
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,400
every now and again, but he was pretty much just right.

1037
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:07,280
He had those fast legs. Yeah, Wiley had a lot

1038
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,880
of personality, and I think I always sided with him.

1039
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,679
Speaker 2: He did, and every once in a while. I think

1040
00:51:11,679 --> 00:51:14,079
he talked and he sounded like you know, Debonair or

1041
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:14,480
something like that.

1042
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were surprised. Or he would punch out of

1043
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,000
work and talk to the sheep dog that was trying

1044
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:20,840
to kill him. Hi, Fred, how are you. Yeah, they

1045
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,639
both punch in see you tomorrow. Yeah, and then they

1046
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:24,079
punch back in the Yeah. I love that.

1047
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: What a great comedy, you know, I know that's good stuff.

1048
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,840
All right, Mikey, listen, man, I appreciate it.

1049
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,519
Speaker 1: I'm not done. Oh well, let's keep going. So I

1050
00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:40,239
shipped my pants and then Dan was giving, like hanging

1051
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,559
it over my head, and you guys wanted it, Okay,