Speaker 1: So Ryan asked me to intro the show today, more
Speaker 1: than happy to do so. Not my first rodeo. Uh So,
Speaker 1: our little peak behind the curtain here as to what
Speaker 1: our recording schedule was, because, Kay, you had the last
Speaker 1: tip of the night, which started on time, a minor
Speaker 1: miracle in and of itself, of the game even started
Speaker 1: at eight thirty. Crazy, But we because it was an
Speaker 1: eight to thirty tip, you know, the game's not gonna
Speaker 1: get over till at least eight thirty or ten thirty
Speaker 1: or later in some cases, we were planning because of that.
Speaker 1: They won, they're gonna play again today, and by another
Speaker 1: minor miracle, they will play again today. But we were
Speaker 1: gonna record last night, and we were planning on as
Speaker 1: soon as it looks like Kansas is going to win,
Speaker 1: we're just we're gonna go. Maybe we'll record the back
Speaker 1: half of the show first and then do the recap
Speaker 1: once the game's actually over, you know, do it a
Speaker 1: little out of order.
Speaker 2: You know, we've done this before. This is not the
Speaker 2: first time. There's been many Kansas teams where they've been
Speaker 2: up fifteen early in the second half of their first
Speaker 2: Big twelve tournament game. And we said all right, let's
Speaker 2: pull the trigger. We'll preview the matchup, and then we'll
Speaker 2: go back later recap the game. I'll switch around the
Speaker 2: order of the show, and you'll never know. The people
Speaker 2: listening will never know that we arrogantly started that podcast
Speaker 2: halfway through Kansas's game because we knew they were going
Speaker 2: to win.
Speaker 1: Yes, there are mechanisms in place for this exact scenario,
Speaker 1: and Kansas goes up sixty one forty eight. I believe
Speaker 1: it was in Ryan and Cam and I are texting, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's go in about five ten minutes at most, and
Speaker 1: then you know, we get to that moment and we're like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go, Probably about time to roll. And then UCF
Speaker 1: puts up three fingers in the air representing the amount
Speaker 1: of points they were scoring per shot and said, hold on, boys,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, and made it a game. And not
Speaker 1: only that, took a lead. And so I sat in
Speaker 1: my living room with my laptop and Mike ready to
Speaker 1: go for about thirty minutes to see what was going
Speaker 1: to happen, and we mercifully decided to record at ten
Speaker 1: am the morning the next morning, which is where we
Speaker 1: come to you now from. As ten am Thursday morning,
Speaker 1: as Ku has somehow escaped the UCF Nights in what
Speaker 1: was a truly remarkable basketball game, one that maybe should
Speaker 1: not have been as close as no as it was,
Speaker 1: and maybe a game that was so close that you
Speaker 1: could have had this podcast like six hours earlier, but
Speaker 1: not so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what happened. I had AirPods in when
Speaker 2: Kansas was up thirteen, ready to go, expecting Landon to
Speaker 2: call me and we start, and then a few minutes later,
Speaker 2: whenever they went up like seventy seven, seventy three, with
Speaker 2: four and a half minutes left, we were like, all right,
Speaker 2: it's later than we thought, but here's the final push.
Speaker 2: And once again the air pods went in and as
Speaker 2: the three fingered salute that you just referenced went up again,
Speaker 2: and it was like, okay, nope, they had there were
Speaker 2: fourteen of those, by the way, on the night nights
Speaker 2: night man ahaha nights. Whatever pun intended. But the end
Speaker 2: result was still what we were expecting it to be,
Speaker 2: which is a narrow, narrow victory over UCF. This is
Speaker 2: going to be a shorter than normal itp You'll still
Speaker 2: get your normal recap, but there really just isn't enough
Speaker 2: information in the other games segment to fill up a
Speaker 2: regular amount because many of the top twenty five teams
Speaker 2: have not played in their conference tournament yet. And then
Speaker 2: we'll preview Kansas and Arizona, second matchup in five days.
Speaker 2: This time it is from a quote unquote neutral site.
Speaker 2: So a Landa, You're winning, your your perseverance, your the
Speaker 2: purple heart of ITP, whatever that award is. You are
Speaker 2: persevering through a allergy ridden, sore throat and early morning
Speaker 2: show to get the people the Kansas UCF Round three recap.
Speaker 2: You should be extremely proud of yourself. Take a bow.
Speaker 1: Ser oh, I will, I will. That purple heart means
Speaker 1: just as much as the normal ones. Very very happy
Speaker 1: to be here. Thank you for the award. It means
Speaker 1: in a lot. It's an honor.
Speaker 2: This is ITP. Good morning, I'm Ryan.
Speaker 1: Excellent morning, I'm Landed Fields and Landon.
Speaker 2: As you know, and as I've said on this podcast,
Speaker 2: this this is not my style. My wife works overnight.
Speaker 2: We are the stay up until three am on the
Speaker 2: off night's household. Ten am to me feels like this
Speaker 2: is before God gets up. So I don't know how
Speaker 2: you are just steam rolling through functioning. Cam has already
Speaker 2: been awake for hours like a normal person, going to
Speaker 2: the gym and doing work stuff and all that. I
Speaker 2: don't know how you psychos do this in your day
Speaker 2: to day life.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've had an irregular schedule for a
Speaker 1: long time. I get up at about eight every morning,
Speaker 1: and currently I'm jobless, so I could technically get up whenever,
Speaker 1: and I still got up at eight today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's insane. I haven't gotten up at eight
Speaker 2: o'clock in more than two years. That's true. That's a
Speaker 2: really true story.
Speaker 1: You don't, actually I don't. I personally don't like sleeping
Speaker 1: in past like nine thirty or so. Like, it makes
Speaker 1: me makes me a little grumpy.
Speaker 2: You feel like you waste the day, right, It all
Speaker 2: changes whenever your day like an oar, how sold? My
Speaker 2: day is basically yours, but just add five hours to everything.
Speaker 2: You may lunch out on the letting up.
Speaker 1: Until two or three am. Pretty racy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that you eat lunch at eleven. Lunchtime
Speaker 2: in our house is between three and four, like dinner
Speaker 2: times around elevel. Everything just delayed. So I love these
Speaker 2: Kansas eight thirty nine o'clock games. These are cool. Bring
Speaker 2: these on. These are basically right after dinner sort of games.
Speaker 2: I work until about nine o'clock at night, so I
Speaker 2: come home and the Jayhawks are on. I think that's cool,
Speaker 2: and I got my wish because we're gonna get another one,
Speaker 2: this one with Arizona. But first, let's recap Kansas and
Speaker 2: ucfay number six. They're six, right, number six, Kansas ninety eight,
Speaker 2: number fourteen fourteen, UCF ninety four in overtime. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: sure we'll read the game story, but let's go ahead
Speaker 2: and answer the elephant in the room. Are we in
Speaker 2: survive and advance mode? And the new new Testament Hawks
Speaker 2: are one to zero or our alarm bells going off
Speaker 2: all over the place that they needed overtime and ninety
Speaker 2: eight points to get past the third worst statistical team
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve in the regular season.
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer that two things can be true.
Speaker 1: I think two things can be true at the same time.
Speaker 2: I think played well.
Speaker 1: They did play well, and they shot the ball very well.
Speaker 1: In that typical k you didn't really defend well. But also,
Speaker 1: holy craft, UCF was not missing kind of fashion. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think both is very much the answer.
Speaker 1: It is when in advance, especially when you've had the
Speaker 1: year that Kansas has had. By their standards, this is
Speaker 1: not a good year at all, so you'll take any
Speaker 1: postseason win you get. At the same time, the fact
Speaker 1: that it took overtime in ninety eight points to get
Speaker 1: by UCF is not exactly what you're hoping for either.
Speaker 2: I think that the glass half full perspective that I'm
Speaker 2: choosing to cling to is that is the second straight
Speaker 2: game where a matchup has been in doubt with about
Speaker 2: five to six minutes left. It's been about a coin
Speaker 2: flip game on the scoreboard, and we've seen them close
Speaker 2: it out. This is something that they struggled with all year.
Speaker 2: I know the last two matchups have come. One of
Speaker 2: them was at home. One of them was as good
Speaker 2: of an home venue as you can have without actually
Speaker 2: being at home. So it's not like they're doing this
Speaker 2: in hostile road environments. But that's part of the draw.
Speaker 2: Kansas is going to play Arizona tonight in the Big
Speaker 2: Twelve Tournament, in a game that's currently a two point spread.
Speaker 2: It's projects to be very close, and Kansas should have
Speaker 2: a massive crowd advantage. That is part of it. It's
Speaker 2: not Allen Fieldhouse, but use those things to your advantage.
Speaker 2: But this is the second game in a row that
Speaker 2: we've seen them fight through some mistakes and find ways
Speaker 2: to get it done. And that's what the Kansas teams
Speaker 2: of old would do. I'm a little concerned that you
Speaker 2: are scheduled to play as many as four games and
Speaker 2: four days if all goes as planned, and you put
Speaker 2: five extra minutes on some already very tired legs on
Speaker 2: the first night. The last night was the matchup where
Speaker 2: I think all of us were hoping that would be
Speaker 2: the game where Dickinson, Adams and Mayo would be resting
Speaker 2: with six minutes left. And we've also on the show
Speaker 2: over the years talked about how rest is kind of overrated.
Speaker 2: These guys are in great shape. Forty minutes back to
Speaker 2: back days really isn't the huge ask that some people
Speaker 2: would think it is because they are in such great shape.
Speaker 2: But starting in overtime, whenever you are trying to make
Speaker 2: a run and play two, three, four games in as
Speaker 2: many days to raise your seed, that is a tough beginning,
Speaker 2: not an optimal start, I would say even if it
Speaker 2: is survive in advance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fully agree there for sure. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: that the rest here will directly impact how they impact
Speaker 1: how they play.
Speaker 2: But yeah, at the same time, surely didn't slow UCF
Speaker 2: down playing a second game in two days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely not. But yeah, like you said, though, it
Speaker 1: would have been awesome if you could have just started
Speaker 1: a little rest early for Hunter and Duan and kJ
Speaker 1: and Z can just let those guys ride the bench.
Speaker 1: Maybe Dewan should have ridden the bench anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Like the more I think about that now that I've
Speaker 2: said that out loud, like, are we feeling differently about
Speaker 2: the matchup with Arizona if Hunter Dickinson plays thirty one
Speaker 2: minutes instead of forty?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Is that making us say, like, who, who's rested? You're
Speaker 2: ready to go? I don't know. The more I think no,
Speaker 2: But what.
Speaker 1: It implies is that they handled UCF and then play
Speaker 1: when UCF comemfortably I think makes you feel better about
Speaker 1: the matchup tonight against Arizona.
Speaker 2: But they did not handle UCF comfortably because they picked
Speaker 2: a great time to instead play their wildest game in
Speaker 2: recent memory. That game was fun, not looking it was
Speaker 2: a lot of fun shot making uh and and two
Speaker 2: and also throw in the element of two. Very unserious
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, basketball teams that just could
Speaker 2: not stop shooting each other in the foot and themselves
Speaker 2: for that matter. UCF shoots the ball like the feistiest
Speaker 2: eleven seed we've ever seen in the tournament, and they
Speaker 2: turn it over like a fourth grade wreck team at
Speaker 2: the YMCA does.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: There were so many moments.
Speaker 1: Where that cost them arguably the game.
Speaker 2: It absolutely cost them the game. Yes, when UCF had
Speaker 2: all of the momentum at one point, looking to build
Speaker 2: off of what was already a three point lead, Keishawn
Speaker 2: Hall in the midst of a brilliant I just flat
Speaker 2: out chucks the ball at his coach on the sideline.
Speaker 2: It's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: There is one in transition to that I think would
Speaker 1: have tied the game or taken the lead for UCF. Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the color commentators, I think King McClure was
Speaker 2: the was the one who he was losing his mind
Speaker 2: watching UCF be so careless with the ball. And then
Speaker 2: on the other end you had kJ Adams step on
Speaker 2: the line with three seconds left and just it was
Speaker 2: it was a very unserious game.
Speaker 1: I tried Dwan Harris's senior year. It was an ode
Speaker 1: to him in the Natty a few years ago.
Speaker 2: You know, yep. Yeah, it was in the in the
Speaker 2: worst possible moments, stepping on the line and giving away
Speaker 2: a possession, and much like that game, it didn't ultimately
Speaker 2: doom his team. I tried to write all sorts of
Speaker 2: a game story so you can tell me what happened.
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of a mess. This little blurb is
Speaker 2: getting longer and longer by the game, just because I
Speaker 2: don't know how to summarize this in less than like
Speaker 2: two hundred words.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I did. We did kind of loosely
Speaker 1: touch on a lot of this that the Kansas they
Speaker 1: led sixty one forty eight. It was. It was a
Speaker 1: pretty back and forth close game the whole night. KU
Speaker 1: does take a thirteen point lead with thirteen minutes left.
Speaker 1: It looked like, oh yeah, here we go. Time to
Speaker 1: close this out. And then as I said, everyone on
Speaker 1: you u s you have held up three fingers simultaneously
Speaker 1: indicating what was about to happen, and they made a
Speaker 1: lot of shots, they rowed back, they took their first
Speaker 1: lead to the game with a fourteen oher run, which,
Speaker 1: as we've talked about to some extent, the last fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes of this game were kind of insane. Neither team
Speaker 1: could pull away from each other. KU led by three
Speaker 1: with twenty seconds left before allowing a game tying make
Speaker 1: with I think like fourteen seconds on the clock, and
Speaker 1: then after dodging a bullet following another turnover on their
Speaker 1: final possession of regulation, they finally put away fourteenth best
Speaker 1: team in the Big Twelve in overtime, a team they
Speaker 1: beat by fifty one points earlier in the season. Mind you,
Speaker 1: that is on the road, ye. And also I can't
Speaker 1: is it Musa Musa Chiam or something like that his
Speaker 1: last names JOm. Yeah, missed a floater that like, I've
Speaker 1: hit in games before and I'm not that tall.
Speaker 2: That would have all night. He misses that shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he was very good in the game.
Speaker 2: He's nasty player.
Speaker 1: Yeah misses. The most crucial of them result was a
Speaker 1: four point overtime win. They gets them into the quarterfinal
Speaker 1: round of the Big Twelve and a date with Arizona
Speaker 1: yet again.
Speaker 2: So if you're doing math here, Kansas beat UCF three
Speaker 2: times by combining fifty nine points this year, which if
Speaker 2: you had been told at the be end of the year,
Speaker 2: you would have said, yep, that makes sense. They probably
Speaker 2: stepped on them. Allen beat them my double digits in
Speaker 2: Orlando and had a nice, comfortable win in the Big
Speaker 2: twelve tournament, and that is not what happened, because they
Speaker 2: beat them by fifty one, four and four in those
Speaker 2: three games. The fifty one point game, I believe, was
Speaker 2: the day of the blizzard. Here in Kansas City, where
Speaker 2: our other are. Our only other option was watching Carson
Speaker 2: Wentz put up zero points against the Broncos at the
Speaker 2: same time.
Speaker 1: Which I did. At the same time, I had KUUCF
Speaker 1: on my laptop while Chiefs Broncos was I was watching
Speaker 1: with the roommates on the TV.
Speaker 2: That's amazing that you didn't give up on Chiefs Broncos
Speaker 2: after like a quarter. I watched two drives of Carson
Speaker 2: Wentz and said, nope, I think this is funny enough.
Speaker 2: Jayhawks are are getting the focus. And I also wound
Speaker 2: up missing some of that game because I was shoveling
Speaker 2: to three feet not really but a lot of snow
Speaker 2: that was on our driveway at the time.
Speaker 1: It wasn't not three feet.
Speaker 2: It was it was plenty. It was at least one foot.
Speaker 2: Bill self now has a winning record against Johnny Dawkins.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 2: Uh, It's ok. He went from zero to two to
Speaker 2: three and two real fast. It's like Johnny Dawkins is
Speaker 2: like one of those pitchers that has a guy on
Speaker 2: the ropes and then ope, he suddenly lost command of
Speaker 2: the zone and now it's three to two. What is
Speaker 2: he doing?
Speaker 1: Which is also kind of a metaphor for what happened
Speaker 1: in this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, really everybody lost control of everything. It was.
Speaker 2: It was a very entertaining basketball game though, Like you know,
Speaker 2: that's one of those things that like I saw KU
Speaker 2: fans just being miserable, all caps rage, unhappy, talking about
Speaker 2: how this is the worst team in forty years, stuff
Speaker 2: like that. If you watched last night's game and you
Speaker 2: weren't having fun, then sports just might not be your thing. Sometimes.
Speaker 2: In your case, as a Kansas fan, almost all of
Speaker 2: the time, relative to other teams fan bases, your team wins.
Speaker 2: That was an entertaining game with almost two hundred points,
Speaker 2: and all year the complaint has been about how bad
Speaker 2: Kansas's offense is. Look, they can never buy a basket,
Speaker 2: they can never look good and organized. Well, then they
Speaker 2: go score ninety eight and Twitter still stumps through it
Speaker 2: because of other things like that was a fun game.
Speaker 2: It's a fun time of year. If you're not having
Speaker 2: fun watching that sort of game. That's not to say
Speaker 2: that there's not frustrating moments that you can't throw your
Speaker 2: hands up in the airbelt. But overall, that was as
Speaker 2: fun of a game as Kansas has played in quite
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 1: Oh, fully agree that game was remarkably fun to watch.
Speaker 1: And I know, you know, we have grown. We're not
Speaker 1: neutral by any stretch, we're Kansas fans, but we've ticked
Speaker 1: slightly toward neutral over the last few years. So we
Speaker 1: watched maybe a little more objectively quote unquote, not that
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with watching subjects.
Speaker 2: Definitely hanging on every shot like it like it's going
Speaker 2: to decide the fate of how good our day is.
Speaker 2: Less than we used to. Not to say that's that
Speaker 2: other people that really are completely emotionally invested are doing it.
Speaker 2: Give me a fan however you want to be a fan,
Speaker 2: But I just don't understand how watching that game, at
Speaker 2: the end of it, you thought, Man, that sucked. Let's
Speaker 2: never do that again, because that seemed to be what
Speaker 2: people said on Twitter, and I don't get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially with the season KU's had, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it'd make a lot of sense to enjoy a
Speaker 1: really fun, up and down, fast paced basketball game where
Speaker 1: the ball was going in the basket pretty endlessly.
Speaker 2: Do you know the last time Kansas won an overtime game?
Speaker 2: That's their first overtime win since what.
Speaker 1: The last one that comes to mind is the Texas
Speaker 1: tech Ochia Bajie game.
Speaker 2: Or d are there are two since then? There is
Speaker 2: one later that year and one very early the next year.
Speaker 2: Those are the two.
Speaker 1: What was the one very early the next season?
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a very very hard one for you
Speaker 2: to remember because I had forgotten about it and it
Speaker 2: is a random game. So they beat Texas in overtime
Speaker 2: on ABAJI and David McCormick's today.
Speaker 1: Is it the Wisconsin That's Atlantis game?
Speaker 2: That's it. That's the last time they wanted overtime the
Speaker 2: Bobby Pettiford, Yes, yes, on Thanksgiving morning at like ten thirty.
Speaker 2: That is that is the last time they won an
Speaker 2: overtime since then. Two overtime games, both losses, both at Bramwoch.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So they haven't won an overtime in a while. And
Speaker 2: they used to be just a automatic freight train whenever
Speaker 2: you gave Bill self five extra minutes or in the
Speaker 2: Texas Tech game that that brilliant game ten extra minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's been it's been quite a while. I did not
Speaker 2: expect us to lead off with AJ Store, but I
Speaker 2: think we're gonna lead off with aj Storre.
Speaker 1: Yeah after Yeah, it was brilliant.
Speaker 2: It was brilliant. Biggest storyline from this game was Store
Speaker 2: going off for a random nineteen points on seven four
Speaker 2: eleven shooting. He was three for five from three. That
Speaker 2: makes him four for six from two. He played twenty
Speaker 2: seven minutes. That is the most he's played in a
Speaker 2: game all year. He did foul out in overtime. Because
Speaker 2: as all things go with AJ Store, there are still negatives. Uh,
Speaker 2: A lot of people are calling him Malik Store. Some
Speaker 2: people are also calling him remy Store or are we
Speaker 2: just are we tapping the brakes there and saying that
Speaker 2: this is just another fluky outing. I'm very curious what
Speaker 2: your thoughts here are because I think you've been the
Speaker 2: most pessimistic on Store. We both agreed after the Arizona
Speaker 2: a little four minute stint in the last game he
Speaker 2: should not play unless Kansas doesn't have enough bodies. But
Speaker 2: then he goes out and plays. He looks great, he
Speaker 2: looks competent, he looks faster, He plays a big game,
Speaker 2: and I can't believe I'm saying this. Kansas loses this game,
Speaker 2: potentially comfortably if aj Store doesn't hit at least double digits.
Speaker 1: You are correct. Look, I'm only a man. I can
Speaker 1: only control my thoughts so much. When I saw aj
Speaker 1: Storre hit his third three of the night, did I
Speaker 1: think this is just like Malik Newman Remy did this once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course I thought that, And that would be insane
Speaker 1: if that becomes the case. I think though, the thing
Speaker 1: would be is that those two guys led their teams
Speaker 1: to Big twelve championships in the tournament, and they both
Speaker 1: went to a final four, and the obviously Remy's case,
Speaker 1: they won. So yeah, if Agstore continues to do this
Speaker 1: and he averages like fifteen a game for the next
Speaker 1: like seven games and to like Annalyite eight or final
Speaker 1: four appearance or something, then yeah, absolutely that's h's that's
Speaker 1: a third guy in your wheelhouse of guys that were
Speaker 1: not really anything until Game one of the Big Twelve
Speaker 1: tournament and then they became the best player on the
Speaker 1: team in a lot of ways. So we'll see a
Speaker 1: lot of way to go. Ajus Store has had a
Speaker 1: couple games where he has a good this year. They've
Speaker 1: been few and far between. I'm more inclined to think
Speaker 1: it's that, but I hope not. I hope he's brilliant.
Speaker 1: If he's really really good tonight, then yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think Malik's Store remy Store watches is fully on.
Speaker 2: If he's great again, I don't have a lot of
Speaker 2: confidence it will happen, because a lot of it still
Speaker 2: felt fluky. He's you know, he's shot twenty three percent
Speaker 2: on threes all year in conference play, and then he
Speaker 2: made three of them in one game, and to be fair,
Speaker 2: they were all nothing but net. It's not like he
Speaker 2: was getting crazy lucky roles or anything. He had a
Speaker 2: great game, had a couple transition buckets, which has worked.
Speaker 2: I think Kansas probably needs him most. That's what we
Speaker 2: thought he'd be the best on the team at is
Speaker 2: scoring downhill, but he played really well. If I don't know,
Speaker 2: if you remember last year in the Big Ten Tournament,
Speaker 2: he was a stud That entire run for Wisconsin scored sixteen, thirty,
Speaker 2: twenty and twenty four in Wisconsin's four games last Big
Speaker 2: Ten Tournament. So he has come alive on the stage
Speaker 2: before and overall. It was from a human from a
Speaker 2: humanity perspective watching the locker room interview, seeing him smile
Speaker 2: and seeing his teammates pumping him up and saying I
Speaker 2: think it was David Quoit that said we saw yesterday
Speaker 2: in practice he played like a killer. We knew that
Speaker 2: he was going to play like this. He's had a
Speaker 2: frustrating I can't even imagine how frustrated he must be
Speaker 2: about how his season has gone. It was great to
Speaker 2: see him smile and play a game like this after
Speaker 2: putting in all the work all year. Yeah, it'd be great.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, though, He's got to play a couple
Speaker 2: more games like this in March to really get on that. Oh.
Speaker 2: This really is the third piece of that trifecta that
Speaker 2: is Newman and and and Remy and what people forget
Speaker 2: Remy Martin wasn't twenty points a game every game of
Speaker 2: the NCAA's Remy made one shot against Villanova in the
Speaker 2: Final four, and Remy I believe, only had like six
Speaker 2: or eight points in the Miami game. Like you just remember,
Speaker 2: he came alive when they needed him in the Creighton,
Speaker 2: in the UNC and the Prominence games. If aj storre
Speaker 2: comes alive and.
Speaker 1: He had he had a very good Big twelve tournament.
Speaker 2: He did. He had a killer Big twelve tournament, especially
Speaker 2: in that Texas Tech game to win it. But yes,
Speaker 2: if he comes alive and rescues them when they need
Speaker 2: him to multiple times, which he did in this game,
Speaker 2: undoubtedly Kansas gets off to a great start, they blow
Speaker 2: the lead, they need a spark, and suddenly Store is
Speaker 2: the guy playing the clutch overtime minutes. Because in one
Speaker 2: game he's earned himself into bill selves trust circle. That's
Speaker 2: the that's the way to go. It was good to see.
Speaker 1: I don't think quick quick note here, which I do
Speaker 1: think is good little forgotten. I kind of thought this
Speaker 1: was the case. I made sure to double check. Malik
Speaker 1: Newman still averaged like thirteen points a game in conference play.
Speaker 2: Yes he was.
Speaker 1: He was like a trash can or anything. He was
Speaker 1: just frustrating.
Speaker 2: He was, he was, He was horrendous in non conference
Speaker 2: that year, and then started to play a lot better
Speaker 2: around the game five or six mark of the Big
Speaker 2: twelve season and then went nuclear in March. Yes, you're right,
Speaker 2: and Remy was completely invisible in all of conference play
Speaker 2: until the league title. The league tournament started, and obviously
Speaker 2: Store had the TCU game and that is it. And yes,
Speaker 2: I don't think the threes are super sustainable. That's not
Speaker 2: what I'm looking for, Stuart. If you're counting on him
Speaker 2: making three threes a night to be productive, that's not
Speaker 2: gonna happen. What Kansas needs, especially gainst Arizona another game
Speaker 2: that projects to be pretty high scoring, two good offenses.
Speaker 2: They need to get Store a couple of baskets at
Speaker 2: the rim. If he can provide that six to ten
Speaker 2: points mostly coming from the rim drop Fouler two, that
Speaker 2: is what Kansas needs the most, especially with kJ and
Speaker 2: Hunter on presumably quite tired legs and Zeke Mayo being
Speaker 2: brilliant but not giving you anything at the rem Yeah.
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, it was. It was awesome to see aj
Speaker 1: actually put one together. Hey, hopefully he continues.
Speaker 2: It was surprising to see Store play well. Certainly not
Speaker 2: as surprising to see Hunter Dickinson play well. His tear
Speaker 2: since the Utah trip continued. And I thought it was
Speaker 2: really impressive for Dickinson in this game, considering how well
Speaker 2: UCF did in the first half throwing double teams at him.
Speaker 2: They frustrated him, and then he came out and found
Speaker 2: another way to impact the game, and that got everything
Speaker 2: unlocked for him going forth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was one for six in the
Speaker 1: first half. It was bad, it was really bad, three points,
Speaker 1: and then he figured it out in the second half.
Speaker 1: He finished with twenty three points, thirteen rebounds, three assists,
Speaker 1: a couple steals in a career high thirty nine minutes,
Speaker 1: nine and eighteen from the floor. So started one for
Speaker 1: six finishes.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 1: Eight for twelve really good? With three threes and three
Speaker 1: for four from behind the arc. That's a very This
Speaker 1: normally happens against Kansas moment when when the white center,
Speaker 1: who is like a twenty five percent three point shooters,
Speaker 1: baries three. We've seen Dickinson do this before, but it
Speaker 1: has been a long time. He's certainly been anything but
Speaker 1: consistent behind the arc, but he made three in this game.
Speaker 1: He made four in all of conference.
Speaker 2: Play, as he was so thing that would happen to Kansas,
Speaker 2: though the white twenty five year old seven foot center
Speaker 2: doing that is is yeah, that's true. That's so Kansas.
Speaker 1: It hurts. Flora Badunga also had a good first half.
Speaker 1: He had six and six in eleven minutes, but Dicketson
Speaker 1: carried Kansas in the big moments. He made a lot
Speaker 1: of big shots for once, the I am well endowed
Speaker 1: made a lot of sense for the first time in
Speaker 1: a minute because he showed off his gigantic balls many times.
Speaker 2: And the whole really, the whole bench backed it up.
Speaker 2: The whole bench was like, yep, he sure does.
Speaker 1: I missed that? They did? They all do it?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, at least aj Store and Rickie's pass more
Speaker 2: we were We're doing the exact same gesture after Dickinson
Speaker 2: made a three, So it must be his stick. But
Speaker 2: since the Utah trip, Dickinson had sixteen and eleven and
Speaker 2: twenty one minutes against Oklahoma State, the thirty two and
Speaker 2: thirteen against Colorado, eighteen and nine against Tech, seventeen and
Speaker 2: twelve in a physical slug fest against Houston, then goes
Speaker 2: for thirty three and ten against Arizona on Senior Day
Speaker 2: and then the UCF game. As you said, clearly, UCF's
Speaker 2: defensive strategy was any time that he is not just
Speaker 2: has the ball, but is getting ready to be thrown
Speaker 2: the ball, they slam him with two bodies and make
Speaker 2: him pass out of it. And to his credit, he did.
Speaker 2: He had a couple of great passes to kJ who
Speaker 2: would have had a dunk and he couldn't handle it
Speaker 2: because that's just not a situation that Ku super used
Speaker 2: to running this year. And then Dickinson, the guy who
Speaker 2: hasn't made threes all year, he needed to make those
Speaker 2: to open up the floor. He did, and that opened
Speaker 2: up the paint a lot more for him to go
Speaker 2: to work in the second half. Truly, just a fantastic
Speaker 2: last few weeks for him. Kansas would be completely totally
Speaker 2: and entirely boned if it wasn't for him, And I've
Speaker 2: noticed that the noise on Twitter about him being soft
Speaker 2: about all that has silenced quite a bit. It'd also
Speaker 2: be nice if he got a good whistle. No one
Speaker 2: got a good whistle in this game. The refs were
Speaker 2: the refs, but Dickenson probably could be on the free
Speaker 2: throw line six to eight more times a game than
Speaker 2: he is, just because rests are like, oh, that's probably
Speaker 2: a foul, but you know what, he's taller than everybody else,
Speaker 2: so we'll just call it even.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there always has been a little bit
Speaker 1: of that, but yeah, fully concur on the post Utah Hunter,
Speaker 1: Dickinson has been absolutely brilliant. He's playing with a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of energy. As much as we've hated
Speaker 1: to use that word specifically for various reasons, but he has,
Speaker 1: he really has, and he has shown a different level
Speaker 1: of fight and tenacity he's always kind of had, but
Speaker 1: he's really let it kind of fly in the last
Speaker 1: few games. And it also helps when you're averaging like
Speaker 1: whatever he is, and he's had you know, two thirty
Speaker 1: point games and you know, twenty three thirteen and three
Speaker 1: assists and three for four from three in the Big
Speaker 1: twelve tournament opener.
Speaker 2: So I mean, just so taken for granted, I think
Speaker 2: such a he's a twenty and ten every night guy.
Speaker 2: He really is. He's a twenty and ten guy more
Speaker 2: nights than he's not. And this game was awesome because
Speaker 2: he found so many other ways to impact the game.
Speaker 2: Besides just his typical hook shot, and it opened the
Speaker 2: door for the threes because Kay made twelve of them.
Speaker 2: When Dickinson started to make them, suddenly everything became open
Speaker 2: and the basket became the size of a hula hoop
Speaker 2: for some of these guys. We saw Zeke Mayo have
Speaker 2: a great night. David Kit made the one that really
Speaker 2: made the crowd pop, and AJ Store was good too.
Speaker 2: They were twelve for twenty seven from three. That's forty
Speaker 2: four percent. The other hand of this equation, as UCF
Speaker 2: was fourteen to thirty three, which is forty two percent.
Speaker 2: Both teams shot the ball very well. Are we just
Speaker 2: kind of calling this a wash out? Both teams made
Speaker 2: shots in a in a building where it seems like,
Speaker 2: more often than not, Kansas does not make shots.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'd be more inclined to just say that
Speaker 1: two you just two really hot teams. There were some
Speaker 1: defensive falling asleeps. I mean there always are, and UCF
Speaker 1: has been an absolutely abominable defensive team all season. They've
Speaker 1: given up huge numbers all conference play. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Kansas has had some weird perimeter defense all year. And
Speaker 1: AJ Store, for as good as he was, You could
Speaker 1: see him completely lose guys on the perimeter more than once.
Speaker 1: It did happen, So I mean it happens, it happens,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think for the most part, these were
Speaker 1: two teams that were just feeling on both ends, and
Speaker 1: you could tell.
Speaker 2: And Zeke Mayo was feeling it from the start too.
Speaker 2: He hit the two early threes and played very strong
Speaker 2: throughout the game. He led Kansas with twenty four points
Speaker 2: on just eleven shots, which is super super efficient. Six
Speaker 2: for eleven from the floor, five for seven from three
Speaker 2: feels like Zeke Mayo is five for seven from three
Speaker 2: every other game at this point. He also had the
Speaker 2: other nights correct, Yeah, it's one of the other. He
Speaker 2: also had eight rebounds and was seven for eight at
Speaker 2: the free throw line. A very complete game, Zeke, minus
Speaker 2: the not putting his hands up in Jordan Ivy Curry's
Speaker 2: face whenever he's launching a game tying three in the
Speaker 2: closing seconds. Considering that Ryland Griffin and David Quit combined
Speaker 2: to score five points in thirty four minutes and we're
Speaker 2: one for ten from the floor, Griffin was especially horrific.
Speaker 2: Mayo shot making was critical. We don't really have anything
Speaker 2: to say about Zeke, I don't think. Just continues to
Speaker 2: make shots now at forty one percent on the year
Speaker 2: from three and almost forty four percent against Big twelve opponents.
Speaker 2: Griffin's been pretty disappointing. Dude's made like twenty five percent
Speaker 2: of his shots in the last month of the season.
Speaker 2: Like it's a really really big sample size that he
Speaker 2: hasn't made anything and he's getting open looks. As long
Speaker 2: as either Mayo or Griffin is making shots, I think
Speaker 2: Kansas is okay. But when Griffin's gonna go oh four,
Speaker 2: Zeke has to go five for seven in this case,
Speaker 2: he did. I don't know if he can do it
Speaker 2: every night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's a nice start to see him,
Speaker 1: you know, leave the confines of allen Field House too,
Speaker 1: you know, not allen Field House but the next closest
Speaker 1: thing you're gonna get for Kansas. But nonetheless, like you know,
Speaker 1: leaves the building where he's shot well, really only building
Speaker 1: where he's shot well this year consistently, And he left
Speaker 1: and he had an absolutely crazy night from Beyond the Arc.
Speaker 1: So that's good and it's encouraging if you're looking for
Speaker 1: signs for the future. For the Jayhawks. Can they make
Speaker 1: a run, can they knock some people off? If Zeke
Speaker 1: Mao can can be an elite shooter in neutral courts,
Speaker 1: then yeah, they absolutely can because they can score a
Speaker 1: lot of points. If he's scoring a lot of points, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was really really good and his ability to get
Speaker 1: to the free throw line again is crucial. I think
Speaker 1: that's something that he should try to do more. Try
Speaker 1: to drive to the cup a little bit. I know
Speaker 1: he's been very not that good from inside the arc,
Speaker 1: but I would still if I was Zeke Mayo and
Speaker 1: I was Bill Self, I would continue to try to
Speaker 1: tell Zeke, hey, try to draw some contact inside, take
Speaker 1: the ball to the cup. You can do that. Try
Speaker 1: to try to get your way to the free throw line,
Speaker 1: because he's a very good free throw shooter.
Speaker 2: We were on that from the start. We said Bill
Speaker 2: self went out and he got himself some really good
Speaker 2: free throw shooters. This year and the transfer portal, headlined
Speaker 2: by Zeke Mayo and kJ Adams, has been a lot
Speaker 2: better than he was last year. He was really the
Speaker 2: only weak free throw shooter on amongst the attorneys and
Speaker 2: the free throw's Kansas was nails at the free throw line,
Speaker 2: closing this out like they made. I think they only
Speaker 2: missed the one shot and that was the Mayo which
Speaker 2: could have set up the TM game tying floater, but
Speaker 2: it didn't hurt him. So really really good at the
Speaker 2: free throw line on a court where you know, let's
Speaker 2: talk about the court here because watch Okay. My question
Speaker 2: was what did you think of the court? And that's
Speaker 2: your answer. It's a Louis Vuitton bag. It's an abomination.
Speaker 1: It's a Louis Vuitton bag is a really good comp
Speaker 1: I don't think I've heard that yet. It's really really bad.
Speaker 1: How did it make it through like what must have
Speaker 1: been five or six or seven levels of boards and
Speaker 1: committees and approval and all this kind of stuff to
Speaker 1: get on to the T Mobile Center, Like what happened here?
Speaker 2: I want to know what it looks like in person,
Speaker 2: because we were on the road this week, so I
Speaker 2: watched some of the first round games on an iPad
Speaker 2: screen and it didn't look that bad. My thought was, Oh,
Speaker 2: this really isn't as bad as people were making it sound.
Speaker 2: And then yesterday we get home and I I turned
Speaker 2: on the TV, and the bigger the screen, the worst
Speaker 2: it looks like the case eight Paler game was horrible. Uh,
Speaker 2: it just blends into the team wearing the white jerseys.
Speaker 2: It literally blends in with their with the font on
Speaker 2: their jerseys. Like it took my eyes adjusting to do,
Speaker 2: uh to get Kansas's cursive font, you know, the the
Speaker 2: and also UCF has it going on with the uniforms.
Speaker 2: The name on the back of the jersey is nice
Speaker 2: and big. That was very helpful. Kansas is was not.
Speaker 2: And the XII x I I x i I all
Speaker 2: over the place. Yeah, that was That was terrible.
Speaker 1: I also myself just staring at x I I x
Speaker 1: I I x I I because I'm so baffled by
Speaker 1: it all the time that I'm like actively just looking
Speaker 1: at that rather than actually watching basketball occasionally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's terrible, and I predict it's it's not a
Speaker 2: thing we see next year.
Speaker 1: I agree, it better not be.
Speaker 2: It's really bad. Something we will not see next year
Speaker 2: is kJ Adams, even though he's been playing well, So
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's a bad thing. I believe we
Speaker 2: have the only two guys we still have left to
Speaker 2: talk about are kJ In the one. As fate would
Speaker 2: have it, kJ was much better than to one.
Speaker 1: In this case he was kJ finished with fifteen points,
Speaker 1: seven rebounds, and five assists, three steals, three blocks in
Speaker 1: a team high and career high forty minutes. He was
Speaker 1: six for eleven from the floor. He did also step
Speaker 1: on the line in what was a tie game with
Speaker 1: three seconds left after Bill Selp drew up a play
Speaker 1: the play of the game for him. But hey, you
Speaker 1: can't have it all. But caj Adams continues to be
Speaker 1: both the guy that does the little things and the
Speaker 1: guy that does the big things very very well. Also,
Speaker 1: since the Utah trip, he has been unabashadly brilliant and
Speaker 1: that's what he was here.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, continue to get and I you know what,
Speaker 2: I'll wear him at this point. Every time kJ plays well,
Speaker 2: people tweet at Rock Chalk Blog and say, hey, you
Speaker 2: dogged him all year. I will continue to bang the
Speaker 2: drum that this is a very different player. He's scoring
Speaker 2: thirteen to fifteen points a night. It feels like which
Speaker 2: is if we've always said kJ has to rebound or
Speaker 2: score in recent memory, he's doing both. And look how
Speaker 2: much better Kansas has been there four and two in
Speaker 2: their last six games, with narrow losses to the two
Speaker 2: best in the conference being the two else they've been
Speaker 2: so much better, and it starts with kJ. I will
Speaker 2: make an amendment to my original note there that says
Speaker 2: Bill self drop up the final play of the game
Speaker 2: for him, which he has done before. He said after
Speaker 2: the game that this was a play that was supposed
Speaker 2: to go to Hunter, but he was double teamed and
Speaker 2: they left kJ and isolation, so he took it and
Speaker 2: the guards couldn't get open. I think that was much
Speaker 2: more of a our guards can't get open than it was.
Speaker 2: Bill self said, Hey, guys, make sure that kJ and
Speaker 2: kJ alone touches this ball. But you kind of saw
Speaker 2: that coming, didn't you. Whenever you saw kJ creeping towards
Speaker 2: the basket, you figured it was either gonna be a
Speaker 2: step on the line or a block shot. Like I
Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of confidence, so that.
Speaker 1: Was We definitely have seen block shot more than once.
Speaker 2: So right, But he was really good, and there were
Speaker 2: several examples in this game where you saw he's always
Speaker 2: been the energy guy. He's always been the energy guy.
Speaker 2: The difference is in the most recent few games, his
Speaker 2: energy producing plays are resulting in points on the scoreboard.
Speaker 2: A big dunk that gets everybody all amped up and
Speaker 2: forces a timeout right the dive on the play on
Speaker 2: the floor for a loose ball that forces a and
Speaker 2: you don't get possession. That's great, that wins Bill seals hearts.
Speaker 2: But that's the sort of places he was making before.
Speaker 2: And now it's a big rebound that leads to a
Speaker 2: fast break, a big tip out. We saw that a
Speaker 2: couple of times where he used his athleticism, his vertical
Speaker 2: to jump above everybody else and tip the ball back
Speaker 2: to save a possession for Kansas or a couple of buckets.
Speaker 2: Those are the energy plays that we're seeing now from
Speaker 2: kJ They're putting points and rebounds in the score book,
Speaker 2: and that's why it feels like he's been so much
Speaker 2: more impactful. He's averaged fourteen points a game whenever he
Speaker 2: used to average eight all season. Six more points a
Speaker 2: game goes a long long way for an offense that
Speaker 2: just needs a little bit extra help. He's been brilliant, truly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really have too much to add to that.
Speaker 1: He's been sensational. It would have been awesome to have
Speaker 1: this guy all season. Someone argue that you have, I
Speaker 1: would disagree, but he has been completely brilliant. And yeah,
Speaker 1: he's putting the ball in the basket. He's getting big
Speaker 1: offensive rebounds, he's getting huge defensive rebounds like you know,
Speaker 1: and also that you're gonna add five assists, three steals,
Speaker 1: and three blocks like you can play on any team
Speaker 1: in the country. Man like he's been. Yeah, he's been
Speaker 1: that good in the last month or so.
Speaker 2: He cannot shoot. And in order to play this many
Speaker 2: minutes and not hold your team back, you have to
Speaker 2: be able to contribute in other ways, scoring and rebounding
Speaker 2: the ball. You have to draw fouls, which I believe
Speaker 2: kJ has done better than anyone on the team in
Speaker 2: the last few weeks. That's something he never used to do.
Speaker 2: He's drawing contact and scoring at the line. It feels
Speaker 2: like he's the first one into that seven to ten
Speaker 2: points range for Kansas more nights than not. He's beginning
Speaker 2: the games with energy, which I know the last couple
Speaker 2: of years have had a problem getting off two slow starts.
Speaker 2: kJ has helped prevent that quite a bit recently. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he is doing the things that don't show up in
Speaker 2: the stat book per se, but they also kind of
Speaker 2: are now and that's the difference the last player we
Speaker 2: haven't talked about. Dewan Harris had the worst night of
Speaker 2: probably of any of the major players for Kansas.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: Six points and seven assists is good, five rebounds is
Speaker 2: also fine. Four turnovers and five foul is not. In
Speaker 2: thirty six minutes, I thought Kansas looked a lot fasterter
Speaker 2: after he was forced to sit. He was just two
Speaker 2: for eight from the floor. Several painful turnovers, trying to
Speaker 2: force feed the post in moments wherever you really did
Speaker 2: not want to turnover. I believe twelve of Kansas's sixteen
Speaker 2: turnovers came in the second half in overtime in this game.
Speaker 2: It really didn't start off as a turnover fest, but
Speaker 2: man was that second half for rough at times. Wait
Speaker 2: until Bill self learns that he does not, by rule,
Speaker 2: have to play Dewan Harris every second that he's allowed
Speaker 2: to play him.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to learn that in about November
Speaker 1: of this year. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, Dawan is fine. He's he's We just
Speaker 2: saw him have a nine point nine assist, one turnover
Speaker 2: game against Zona a week ago, and so whenever he
Speaker 2: plays well, Kansas is really good. But whenever he's not,
Speaker 2: he's kind of like kJ in the sense that if
Speaker 2: he's making the mistakes, he doesn't typically make a lot
Speaker 2: of mistakes. But whenever he makes mistakes, he doesn't usually
Speaker 2: make up for it with enough big plays where you
Speaker 2: notice it. He's not going to score you those nineteen
Speaker 2: points to offset his four turnovers. That's what kJ has
Speaker 2: done recently, and that's what Jwan has not. And the
Speaker 2: downside is you really don't have anybody who can run
Speaker 2: the point. Diggie Quoite really cannot run the show. He's
Speaker 2: not a true facilitating point guard. And Zeke Mayo you
Speaker 2: obviously don't want being the primary point guard. You want
Speaker 2: him in catch and shoot opportunities. So I don't think
Speaker 2: they have much of a choice. A lot of the
Speaker 2: time they have to ride or die with the one.
Speaker 2: More often than not, you're gonna ride and it's gonna
Speaker 2: work out fine. But there are moments like this wherever
Speaker 2: it's he was really hurting him in a lot of
Speaker 2: ways in the second half, which.
Speaker 1: Is weird for a guy that still had six, seven
Speaker 1: and five Like that is all totally fine, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it really is the like it's what it always is.
Speaker 1: It's the two for eight. It's either not looking to
Speaker 1: score or just kind of inability. Again, in this game,
Speaker 1: that doesn't show up so much because mostly everyone else
Speaker 1: was able to score at least the guys that you
Speaker 1: needed to score did and then you got also a
Speaker 1: brilliant night from aj Store, and so it's a wash.
Speaker 1: But most nights it hasn't been that. And again I
Speaker 1: agree with you, I don't know how much you can
Speaker 1: count on aj Store going for you know, eighteen a
Speaker 1: game here in the Big twelfth Tournament and going forward,
Speaker 1: I find that to be rather unlikely. So you still
Speaker 1: need something from Dewan Harris and hey, seven assists, you'll
Speaker 1: take it every night. But I still think it's gotta
Speaker 1: be a lot better than two for eight.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what I think of UCF,
Speaker 2: and part of me watches them and cannot believe that
Speaker 2: they are not one of the fifteen best teams in
Speaker 2: the country with how they shoot the ball, with how
Speaker 2: fast they play. They have two absolute wagons on that team.
Speaker 2: Keyshawn Hall was the second leading scorer in the conference,
Speaker 2: and then they also have Darius Johnson who averaged like
Speaker 2: what did he average? He averaged like sixteen a night too,
Speaker 2: didn't he like both of these. Yeah, he averaged seventeen
Speaker 2: points a game, like they have and Ivy Curry is
Speaker 2: one of the best shooters in the conference. And then
Speaker 2: they have a seven foot two hybrid free who can
Speaker 2: make threes. Like they have a really good roster in
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, and they just cannot stop shooting
Speaker 2: the ball over and they're horrendous on the defensive end.
Speaker 2: Like they feel like a team that they finished one
Speaker 2: game better than Kansas State overall, and the eye test,
Speaker 2: they are so so, so so much better than Kansas State.
Speaker 2: I don't know how this team lost sixteen games.
Speaker 1: Well, it's mostly because they give up about eighty points
Speaker 1: a night.
Speaker 2: They don't defend, and as Kansas hung what ninety nine,
Speaker 2: ninety eight, and ninety one on them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the elite offensive team Kansas, right, Yeah, And I.
Speaker 2: Would guess those are Kansas's three best offensive games of
Speaker 2: the year if you don't count, like Howard, I don't know, Like, no,
Speaker 2: they very well might be. That are those the only
Speaker 2: three times KU has hit ninety Let's take a look
Speaker 2: real fast. We have this thing called the internet. K
Speaker 2: you scored ninety two against North Carolina, so they've hit
Speaker 2: ninety four times this.
Speaker 1: Year, three of them again North Carolina, right.
Speaker 2: Probably missing the tournament unless they've won multiple times by
Speaker 2: the time you've listened to this podcast. North Carolina, Kansas
Speaker 2: forty five percent from the floor, forty four percent from three,
Speaker 2: seventy eight percent the line, plus nine on the glass
Speaker 2: and sixteen turnovers. All of that was good until that
Speaker 2: part and landon you and I normally stopped the recording
Speaker 2: to break this show up into two segments. I'm saying
Speaker 2: we just ride right through with it today because whenever
Speaker 2: it's just a two man show, it's much easier to
Speaker 2: sync up all that audio. And I don't think the
Speaker 2: rest of the podcast is going to take very long.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's do it. What could go wrong?
Speaker 2: Let's roll right into Big twelve games. So Big twelve games,
Speaker 2: we really just have the three to recap here. The
Speaker 2: first day of the Big twelve Tournament resulted in Oklahoma
Speaker 2: State mercifully dying, TCU hilariously laying down and losing to Colorado.
Speaker 2: And then what Arizona State got dispatched quickly by Kansas
Speaker 2: State because Bobby Hurley is the is just really bad.
Speaker 2: Did you know that Bobby Hurley has never won an
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament game at Arizona State, and that he has
Speaker 2: one winning season, not just conference playing, one winning overall
Speaker 2: season since COVID.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's bad. That's like get fired tomorrow bad.
Speaker 2: Right, It's it's horrendous. And they keep bringing him back
Speaker 2: simply because he is one of the greatest players in
Speaker 2: the history of the sport, and he's a name and
Speaker 2: he's a character, but he's a horrible basketball coach. Like
Speaker 2: Patrick Cowing was a great basketball player, doesn't mean you
Speaker 2: have to keep him as a coach forever and ever
Speaker 2: and always.
Speaker 1: Not even Georgetown knew that.
Speaker 2: Which Georgetown. Georgetown's had a really sad week for a
Speaker 2: couple of different reasons. We'll touch on that. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: then there was UCF beating Utah and what was a
Speaker 2: close game. So we were in a Southwest Oklahoma casino,
Speaker 2: Southeast I'm on the other end of the state, Southeast
Speaker 2: Oklahoma casino, and I watched the first half after we
Speaker 2: had gotten there. We're driving back from Louisiana to Kansas City,
Speaker 2: so we stopped there for the night. I watched the
Speaker 2: first half of Utah UCF. I'm like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: pretty good. We got out of the casino for a
Speaker 2: little bit, and I come back up an hour later
Speaker 2: and UCF has beaten them by like fifteen points. So
Speaker 2: that all the Utah revenge hype for Kansas that died hard.
Speaker 1: But hey, we'll take ninety eight for the third time
Speaker 1: against UCF.
Speaker 2: And the Utah game would have been probably about a
Speaker 2: similar scoring window, but it would have been each team
Speaker 2: had twenty five less points, so it would have been
Speaker 2: much worse. Enjoy this one, all right. Here is the
Speaker 2: Big Twelve Wednesday games, beginning with number five Iowa State
Speaker 2: seventy six Cincinnati fifty six Land. And you'll have to
Speaker 2: sit down before I tell you this. Iowa State played
Speaker 2: well in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa. I have in fact seen that every year
Speaker 1: of my life pretty much, except for that one year
Speaker 1: where they had three total wins.
Speaker 2: The Cyclones two wins, sir, they were two and twenty.
Speaker 1: I am sorry. I did add thirty three percent of
Speaker 1: their wins to the Cyclones. They are now twenty one
Speaker 1: and three against the spread in their last twenty four
Speaker 1: Big Twelve Tournament games. Just in case he wanted to
Speaker 1: win free money in this tournament, Cam Joshua Jefferson. He
Speaker 1: scored nineteen points, but tam and Lipsey tweaked his groin
Speaker 1: and is questionable for Thursday versus BYU, which is about
Speaker 1: to tip for us hearing about forty minutes. Is it
Speaker 1: eleven or eleven thirty? Tip?
Speaker 2: It's eleven thirty.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In this podcast, you'll probably be able to download this
Speaker 2: rider around the time that game starts. Iowa State's a
Speaker 2: wagon in the Big twelve. I know BYUS the hottest
Speaker 2: team in this tournament. I think you're crazy if you
Speaker 2: put United States currency against Iowa State winning in this tournament.
Speaker 2: But there is somebody who's typically on this podcast that
Speaker 2: does pretty crazy things with the United States currency, So
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's riding or dying with BYU. It would
Speaker 2: not surprise me.
Speaker 1: Big Trevin Nel Guy cam.
Speaker 2: Is number sixteen, Colorado sixty seven, number eight West Virginia
Speaker 2: sixty wouldn't we that the what if the Buffaloes win
Speaker 2: the Big twelve tournament scenario is forty percent of the
Speaker 2: way to fruition.
Speaker 1: And all they have to do next is beat Houston.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as which exactly one count them one Big twelve
Speaker 2: team has done since President's Day of last year.
Speaker 1: I count them one points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah in overtime. Yeah, pretty wild.
Speaker 1: The Buffs they forced fifteen Mountain your turnovers. They earned
Speaker 1: the right to get tea bagged by Houston here later
Speaker 1: this afternoon. Ran right, But hey, Colorado, you get wins
Speaker 1: over TCU, you get wins over West Virginia. West Virginia,
Speaker 1: kick them out, man, you can't lose the sixteen seed
Speaker 1: Colorado in your first tournament game, and like, hold your
Speaker 1: head high going into March.
Speaker 2: So they are a ten seed right now per Joe Lonardi.
Speaker 2: And they're a ten seed on a couple of the
Speaker 2: other brackets I've seen. I think Bracket Matrix had them
Speaker 2: as a high ten seed. But every year we see
Speaker 2: a team that enters champ Week around that low nine
Speaker 2: high ten mark. They lose really early to a team
Speaker 2: they have no business losing to on paper in a
Speaker 2: conference tournament, and they get past. Oklahoma won last night,
Speaker 2: so did Texas. There's two bubble teams. What if North
Speaker 2: Carolina beats do here in a couple.
Speaker 1: Of days, right, what if North Carolina wins today?
Speaker 2: Correct? Yes, then what happens. I'm gonna say, I don't
Speaker 2: need West Virginia in the tournament. I'm way more interested
Speaker 2: in seeing teams that are playing better late in the year.
Speaker 2: And West virgin Jinia in their last fifteen games is
Speaker 2: six and nine. Like, this isn't a team I need
Speaker 2: to see enter and then get baptized by seven seed
Speaker 2: you know whoever in their first Yeah, well that's because
Speaker 2: that way because Kansas v. Westn Virginia went so well
Speaker 2: earlier this year. I don't need West Virginia in the dance.
Speaker 2: I don't And like Tad Boyle Kansas Sky they start
Speaker 2: oh in thirteen, that's the markings of a coach that
Speaker 2: I think they've had a horrible year. But whenever you
Speaker 2: have you go from oh to thirteen and you go
Speaker 2: three and four in your last few games, and then
Speaker 2: you win a couple in kansasity winning record Colorado in
Speaker 2: their last nine games, Clearly those guys are still playing
Speaker 2: hard for their coach. That's the guy I wouldn't mind
Speaker 2: bringing back, as opposed to Bobby Hurley, who.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, I would agree. And then lastly, here uh
Speaker 1: North seven, Baylor seventy number ten, K State fifty six
Speaker 1: as K State's season mercifully ends nineteen for VJ. Edgecombe,
Speaker 1: another eighteen for Jade none beiloted by seventeen and a half.
Speaker 1: Never really particularly interesting case State. They finished sixteen and
Speaker 1: seventeen in year three of Jerome Tang in year three
Speaker 1: and probably hopefully should be the final year of Jerome Tang. Ryan,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about Cam's bet slip.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk about Cam's bettslip. Speaking of money, Jerome
Speaker 2: Tang has eighteen million reasons why he will be the
Speaker 2: basketball coach at Kansas State next year. And that's pretty
Speaker 2: crazy because if Kansas State can fork over two million
Speaker 2: bucks for Coleman Hawkins to score six points against Baylor
Speaker 2: in the season ending loss, I don't know, they might
Speaker 2: be able to come up with a few more mills
Speaker 2: to get Jerome Tang out of there because he is awful.
Speaker 1: You get all those veterinarians and farmers to pony up,
Speaker 1: so here is here. It is camps and farmers, no shade.
Speaker 2: We do, absolutely we do. I don't know if they
Speaker 2: can pony up the money for Jerome Tang to get
Speaker 2: a different coach, because don't know who they're getting that
Speaker 2: it's necessarily much better, But I know it's not. I
Speaker 2: know Jerome Tang's not your answer. This team was too
Speaker 2: talented to be this bad. So Cam, I really didn't
Speaker 2: get that to give this the attention it deserved because
Speaker 2: I was in the car so much this week. But
Speaker 2: Cam sends Landon and I the daily Cam's bet slip
Speaker 2: and this comes through on Wednesday morning. No, it was
Speaker 2: Tuesday morning, and so here are here are Cam's picks
Speaker 2: on Tuesday. Do you know what I'm talking about? Let
Speaker 2: me see if I can pull up this.
Speaker 1: Text, because it is so I usually mostly ignore them.
Speaker 2: Oh no, see, I am. I am glued to them
Speaker 2: because they are just so what do you mean, how
Speaker 2: are you not glued to them? They are fantastic? Here
Speaker 2: it is here, it is here, it is so. This
Speaker 2: text comes in at eight to eleven in the morning
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, Cam's getting ready for the first day of
Speaker 2: Champ Week. Cam bets on Kansas State minus five and
Speaker 2: a half against Arizona State. They win by four. Cam
Speaker 2: bets on TCU minus one and a half to beat
Speaker 2: to beat Colorado. They lose straight up.
Speaker 1: In fairness to him, that was the correct bet. And
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Tc literally lost to that same team like three days prior,
Speaker 2: but point taken. They were better. Yes, Cam bets on
Speaker 2: Utah minus two and a half to beat UCF. They
Speaker 2: lose straight up. Cam bets on Oklahoma State plus six
Speaker 2: and a half against Cincinnati they lose by twenty. And
Speaker 2: Cam bets on underdog Saint Mary's who will talk about
Speaker 2: plus three and a half against Gonzaga. They lose straight
Speaker 2: up and by nine or whatever. It is hard to
Speaker 2: go five and oh and pick them. It's harder to
Speaker 2: go oh and five because you should theoretically have an
Speaker 2: advantage picking better basketball teams. When you go oh and five,
Speaker 2: whenever you take five swings and you miss five times,
Speaker 2: it is really really hard to do. And that's why
Speaker 2: sports betting is tough. Sad scenes for Cam's betslip.
Speaker 1: Well, at least he will definitely learn his lesson and
Speaker 1: not bet on all of the ACC games today.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear how he talks about. Okay, guys,
Speaker 2: I bet on Duke all Spread minus twenty eight against
Speaker 2: Wake Forest and they win twenty five. It's like, Cam,
Speaker 2: why did you touch that game?
Speaker 1: I really think Stanford Cal is something going on today.
Speaker 2: That's that's the You gotta love Cam. Without Cam, the
Speaker 2: shows definitely have less degenerate energy.
Speaker 1: Oh today today is way too normal and button plus
Speaker 1: Ryan and I are both in weird circumstances where his
Speaker 1: wife is sleeping and I have a slightly sore throat, so,
Speaker 1: like you know, it's a little more muted even than
Speaker 1: normal without CAM.
Speaker 2: But maybe these other games will fire us up, because
Speaker 2: in other games in the SEC, I was driving through
Speaker 2: parts of Arkansas and we got to a sports bar
Speaker 2: for lunch, and Arkansas was blowing the doors off of
Speaker 2: lowly South Carolina. They were up like eighteen at halftime,
Speaker 2: and then I checked the score at a gas station
Speaker 2: about an hour later, and they are holding on for
Speaker 2: dear life. Up too late in a lose this and
Speaker 2: you are definitely missing the tournament game, John Cala Perry,
Speaker 2: did you see what happened when the kid intentionally missed
Speaker 2: the free throw up three? And so our saw's up
Speaker 2: three with like two seconds left, and the free throw
Speaker 2: shooter can he makes his first one, they're up three.
Speaker 2: He obviously makes the second one, and you go up four.
Speaker 2: In the games over, he misses it on purpose, and
Speaker 2: everybody on Arkansas looks confused, like, why the hell did
Speaker 2: you miss that? And Cali Perry after the game, said oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I told him to do that, and they were like,
Speaker 2: well why, and he's like, well, you know, you just
Speaker 2: the odds of making the shot or so it was.
Speaker 2: It was pretty clear it's Covin for his kid. But
Speaker 2: if that doesn't sum up Arkansas not knowing what to
Speaker 2: do in clutch moments, uh, they survived South Carolina Cam
Speaker 2: may or may not been speaking of Cam's betting interest.
Speaker 2: He was a little disappointed that they did not win
Speaker 2: by more than just two points or maybe it was
Speaker 2: four in the end, whatever it was. I know, I
Speaker 2: know it was not enough for Cam. Don't don't know
Speaker 2: why Arkansas did get this done. But man like they're
Speaker 2: they're gonna be put in someone's bracket on Selection Sunday
Speaker 2: and freaking Clark Kellogg is gonna say that this is
Speaker 2: a nasty sleeper team that no one wants to draw
Speaker 2: on the selection show, and they don't. They're going to
Speaker 2: lose in the first round to a mid major when
Speaker 2: they have eighty five percent of the brackets picking them
Speaker 2: till we get out of that game.
Speaker 1: That yes, correct, That feels they extremely right.
Speaker 2: So disappointing. Also in that tournament, Texas beat Vanderbilt. They
Speaker 2: are still probably on the outside looking in, but this
Speaker 2: helps they get a great shot at A and M tonight.
Speaker 2: That would really help Mississippi State, Claubard horrible LSU and
Speaker 2: Oklahoma suddenly winning winners of third in a row. I
Speaker 2: know it's very disappointing because they are very likely going
Speaker 2: to get in the dance now thanks to their non
Speaker 2: conference strength of schedule. But they beat Georgia, They've won
Speaker 2: three in a row. Porter Mos, you're coming up clutch,
Speaker 2: maybe on the verge of his first NCAA berth at Ou.
Speaker 1: In the ACC North Carolina, they ruled by Notre Dame
Speaker 1: by twenty. To get a win, they need to beat
Speaker 1: Wake Forest later today. They are a six point favorite
Speaker 1: in that game, which would set up a quarterfinal game
Speaker 1: between North Carolina and Duke. Without two wins the next
Speaker 1: two days, they are probably out. I think that also
Speaker 1: they're close. Their name is still North Carolina. If they
Speaker 1: handle Wake and lose close to Duke or something, I
Speaker 1: think they'd be right there in that last four and
Speaker 1: next four out conversation, depending on what else breaks. But
Speaker 1: if you beat Duke, I think you're almost certainly in
Speaker 1: at that point because that would be a heck of
Speaker 1: a win. If you lose to Duke. It's very much
Speaker 1: a conversation you need help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the tournament committee is obviously just dying to
Speaker 2: give North Carolina reason again. And this is somebody trying
Speaker 2: to get rid of the family pet. And they just
Speaker 2: keep accidentally leaving the door open over and over like
Speaker 2: they are just giving you every single opportunity. They can
Speaker 2: just beat Duke one out of three times and I
Speaker 2: guess we'll put you in. It's basically what they're saying.
Speaker 2: They haven't really come close either time. I did ask
Speaker 2: Cam if we can get a Cam's bet slip of
Speaker 2: the day, and he says he's on it. Hence the
Speaker 2: ding you just heard. Because I need to know who
Speaker 2: to pick in that North Carolina versus Wake four and
Speaker 2: whatever Camp picks, I will do the opposite because I'm
Speaker 2: sure Cam will have money on one of the sides.
Speaker 2: And I don't even have the other acc games in
Speaker 2: here because I couldn't even tell you played. I think
Speaker 2: SMU beat Syracuse late at night, I think, so, I
Speaker 2: don't know who else is there.
Speaker 1: Cal is playing Stanford.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, what a what a thrilling all time
Speaker 2: ACC matchup that is between cal and Stanford.
Speaker 1: Oh that was that was last night. Stanford won.
Speaker 2: Oh so okay by five. Stanford gets plastered by someone
Speaker 2: today in the WCC. Here's the part. So my wife
Speaker 2: has been sleeping. I'm trying to stay relatively subdued. This
Speaker 2: is gonna be the part where I struggle because I
Speaker 2: hate this game and I hate these teams. Gonzaga beat
Speaker 2: number nineteen Saint Mary's. They won the WCC Tournament. That's
Speaker 2: their eleventh championship in the last thirteen years. They should
Speaker 2: just rename this the Gonzaga Tournament. They're in the NCAAs,
Speaker 2: as they should be. They are a top twelve Ken
Speaker 2: Palm team that is going to get like an eight
Speaker 2: seed shades of Loyola all over again. But let's talk
Speaker 2: about Saint Mary's because the Gaels absolutely positively suck ass.
Speaker 2: And I have a drop on this show that I
Speaker 2: normally push, and I'm gonna push it just for you.
Speaker 2: Saint Mary's. You suck. You're terrible.
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 2: If you look at Saint Mary's record, you see twenty
Speaker 2: eight and five. But oh my gosh, what fools goal
Speaker 2: that is Saint Mary's been mocked as a five seed
Speaker 2: when their best non conference win is Nebraska, who's not
Speaker 2: even close. They're not even in the first ten teams
Speaker 2: that are out. Did you know that Arizona State, who
Speaker 2: we were just dunking on unloved Bobby Hurley. They beat
Speaker 2: Saint Mary's this year.
Speaker 1: That's a tough seat for the Gaels.
Speaker 2: Saint Mary's should be a playing team at best. And
Speaker 2: this game, this impossible game. Saint Mary's was oh for
Speaker 2: sixteen shooting threes. That is zero percent if you need
Speaker 2: help with the math. And by the way, Gonzaga was
Speaker 2: one for fifteen. That makes these teams that combined two
Speaker 2: for thirty one shooting the three ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really bad. Saint Mary's. If they are a
Speaker 1: five or a six or whatever, they end up being
Speaker 1: the pick the upset there, folks. That'll be a real
Speaker 1: juicy one.
Speaker 2: I think it happened last year, didn't it. Were they
Speaker 2: the ones that drew James Madison or was that Wisconsin?
Speaker 2: Saint Mary's was a five last year. Saint Mary's was
Speaker 2: a five last year and they lost to a twelve.
Speaker 2: I don't remember which one it was, but it was
Speaker 2: a Grand Canyon. Is Grand Canyon or James Madison. One
Speaker 2: of them beat Wisconsin and one of them beat Saint Mary's.
Speaker 1: I believe it was Grand Canyon.
Speaker 2: There you go, it was the tie on Grand Foster's. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's an easy it's easy money. Twelve always beats a five,
Speaker 2: and that's because Saint Mary's is always a five. I
Speaker 2: do have Cam's bet slip, but there is no acc action,
Speaker 2: so we don't have any help than that. He did
Speaker 2: pick BYU as an underdog. I told you that he
Speaker 2: was gonna yasy. We were talking yesterday. You are a
Speaker 2: witness in this group chat about how you should never
Speaker 2: ever ever bet against Iowa State in this tournament. And
Speaker 2: you might be right. Cam might be right, and b
Speaker 2: why you may win by five hundred points, But it's
Speaker 2: kind of like bet against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: If you did it, you were correct. But why would
Speaker 2: you bet United States currency on something that very very
Speaker 2: rarely happens, which is the Chiefs not playing well in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Same with Iowa State in this tournament. Game,
Speaker 2: don't bet against it.
Speaker 1: He also took ole miss money line. I know they're
Speaker 1: playing Arkansas, but why why are you touching that game.
Speaker 2: Which, yeah, what's old miss is probably a four or
Speaker 2: five point favorite in this game, I'm guessing.
Speaker 1: Fun fact back to the WCC real quick fun fact
Speaker 1: about that George W. Bush was in office the last
Speaker 1: time in the team not named Saint Marys or Gonzaga
Speaker 1: won that tournament.
Speaker 2: That's wild. That is a wild stat and you know
Speaker 2: it's because it's pretty amazing. We've had only two winners
Speaker 2: there when they have to go through such long, daunting
Speaker 2: paths to get to the championship of that event.
Speaker 1: Mh. They have to win one whole basketball game to
Speaker 1: make the finals.
Speaker 2: Whoever the hell the nine seed was in that tournament,
Speaker 2: I don't remember who it was. I got all the
Speaker 2: way to the to the Semis and law to Saint
Speaker 2: Mary's and that was I think I think it's Pepperdine.
Speaker 2: Actually it was one of the Pea schools. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they made like a nice run and that was as
Speaker 2: close as it gets. In the Northeast Conference, which I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure we never talked about on the show. Typically State, Ye,
Speaker 2: Saint Francis beat Central Connecticut State and guys, look, I
Speaker 2: know i I'm the boy who cried wolf when it
Speaker 2: comes to saying it's the worst basketball game that's ever
Speaker 2: been played. This is this is the this is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: The final score was forty six to forty three in
Speaker 2: like the second half, not in the first half. That
Speaker 2: was the score of the game. That is eighty nine
Speaker 2: points to decide an NCAA bit and Landon. I think
Speaker 2: both of them got to go to guantanam Obey. I
Speaker 2: don't think we can put these teams in. I think
Speaker 2: that the Furman Wafford game that was brilliant went to overtime.
Speaker 2: I think that we should give Furman, who lost that game,
Speaker 2: this spot because Central Connecticut State was like twenty seven
Speaker 2: and five and everyone was like, oh, they had crushed
Speaker 2: everyone all year and they just played their worst game. No,
Speaker 2: playing your worst game is different than this. If you
Speaker 2: can't beat you can't get out of the mid forties.
Speaker 2: I don't want any tiers shed for your tournament lack
Speaker 2: of status.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I agree. It is like, that's gotta be
Speaker 1: Auburn and sixteen seed.
Speaker 2: Right, automatic playing team that will lose to another sixteen
Speaker 2: seed in that game. That is the five o'clock on
Speaker 2: Tuesday in the Dayton Tip. Yes, horrible, don't need this,
Speaker 2: And you are very vehemently against the auto bid deciding
Speaker 2: the league winner by or the auto birth, like you
Speaker 2: don't want the you don't want the tournament champion to
Speaker 2: get the auto bid in the conference. And I'm assuming
Speaker 2: games like this really good argument on your behalf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've come to the realization that most of these
Speaker 1: teams regular seasons are meaningless in comparison, like in reference
Speaker 1: to the tournament. So I'm a big irregular season title
Speaker 1: should declare the auto birth because that's it means the
Speaker 1: season actually means something rather than putting it all on
Speaker 1: the line one game at a time. That is fun,
Speaker 1: and I understand that they'll never do that because it's
Speaker 1: way more fun and cool.
Speaker 2: And I think that you'd have teams just sit out
Speaker 2: of the conference tournament if that was the case, Like
Speaker 2: if you had like a TENNC that had no chance
Speaker 2: and there was no break. I wonder if that's like
Speaker 2: the if that's the trump card to making sure that
Speaker 2: everybody does in fact play and put up that effort
Speaker 2: in champ week.
Speaker 1: Or maybe a happy medium between these things. Some conferences
Speaker 1: do this, like the MAC does this. Maybe not every
Speaker 1: team in the conference makes the conference tournament, you actually
Speaker 1: have to be good enough to get there. That could
Speaker 1: also be a solution to the problem.
Speaker 2: That's an IVY League thing too, where they only let
Speaker 2: four teams play in the in the conference title game
Speaker 2: or in the conference tournament.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't have to be that drastic. Maybe,
Speaker 1: but yeah maybe depending on conference size, only you know,
Speaker 1: the top half or whatever make it.
Speaker 2: And closing out with did DePaul win, yes, for the
Speaker 2: second time in a row. Did Paul somehow beat Georgetown
Speaker 2: for the third time this year? I believe what I
Speaker 2: said on the last show is if you lose to
Speaker 2: de Paul twice in a season, you should have to
Speaker 2: tie center blocks on your ankles and jump into.
Speaker 1: A river the Potomac, specifically.
Speaker 2: The Potomac because it's in DC. That's where Georgetown is, right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know what the next step is if you
Speaker 2: lose to him three times, because the ball has three
Speaker 2: has five Big East wins this year, five in the
Speaker 2: last two seasons, and three of them are against Georgetown
Speaker 2: and Georgetown. By the way, Georgetown is not Saint Francis.
Speaker 2: Georgetown has a history, Georgetown has championships. Georgetown has tradition,
Speaker 2: and yet they're this, I mean, good lord, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think at this point this is like Patrick Ewing
Speaker 1: has to like hold a press conference where he declares
Speaker 1: his loyalty to Syracuse or something.
Speaker 2: Just anything, but and Georgetown fans would welcome that. By
Speaker 2: the way, they're pretty over this.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah they should be. You can't lose it to
Speaker 1: Paul in three years. We think Kansas has a rough
Speaker 1: former national champion prick Ewing's alma mater, Georgetown loss of
Speaker 1: DePaul three times in a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is the equivalent of like, uh freakin
Speaker 2: Danny Manning being the Kansas coach and so you like
Speaker 2: you don't want to be in them being this bad.
Speaker 2: You like you have respect for him because like of
Speaker 2: what he's done, but he also is the worst coach
Speaker 2: in the history of ever.
Speaker 1: And they have to do something y at Arizona State
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at least Arizona State that don't have ties
Speaker 2: to Bobby Hurley, they could get rid of him at
Speaker 2: any given point. Awkward situation for Georgetown for sure, But
Speaker 2: you can't lose to Paul three times. That has to
Speaker 2: prompt change. No ranked teams lost since the last show
Speaker 2: that will definitely change the next podcast because there's a
Speaker 2: lot of them are playing each other now and no
Speaker 2: ASCARC beat today because we need a short podcast. So
Speaker 2: now straight into the preview. All right, So number six
Speaker 2: Kansas number three Arizona in the Big twelve quarterfinals on
Speaker 2: Thursday at eight thirty pm. The good news about this
Speaker 2: game being so late is this podcast has several more
Speaker 2: hours of shelf life than it would if they were
Speaker 2: playing in their old one pm window. This this is
Speaker 2: also the first time that Kansas wore were blue jerseys
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve tournament since you were seven, Land
Speaker 2: and it was the two thousand and eight title game
Speaker 2: of this tournament when they beat Texas on their way
Speaker 2: to winning the Natty. Thirty six straight times Kansas has
Speaker 2: played in this tournament, they've been the higher seeded team,
Speaker 2: and they've had some luck there, right, They've been like
Speaker 2: a three seed and instead of playing the two, they
Speaker 2: got to play the ten one year. But I mean
Speaker 2: that just speaks on behalf of their dominance. That is
Speaker 2: truly one of the wildest stats I've ever researched. Thirty
Speaker 2: six straight games that they've played in this tournament, spanning
Speaker 2: seventeen years and they have been the higher seeded team
Speaker 2: every time they've taken the floor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that really is wild and really the big question
Speaker 1: here since we just watched this, we just previewed this matchup.
Speaker 1: Will Kansas be wearing the blues a second time tomorrow?
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Ryan so Cam likes Kansas to win by one eighty three,
Speaker 2: eighty two, which is not good for your chances as
Speaker 2: a Kansas fan if you hear that. But I I
Speaker 2: was the one who I think was the most confident
Speaker 2: in this matchup. I don't think that Arizona is is.
Speaker 2: I think Arizona is far and away the worst of
Speaker 2: the top five teams in the Big twelve this year.
Speaker 2: I think you look at BYU, Iowa State, Houston, and Tech,
Speaker 2: I think it's very obvious that they're the worst. They
Speaker 2: are very lucky to get to fourteen and six. They
Speaker 2: had the Caleb lo of buzzer beat or that would
Speaker 2: get you the thirteen and seven. They had the BYU
Speaker 2: awful call, like they're a couple of they should be
Speaker 2: twelve and eight, and then they're then they're like the
Speaker 2: then they're right there with Kansas. But like, here's the
Speaker 2: thing I'm gonna buy in a little bit to the
Speaker 2: Kansas has tired legs angle. I don't like how the
Speaker 2: line has moved from a near pick to Arizona by
Speaker 2: two and a half. It's moved the way of Arizona.
Speaker 2: The sharp money is on the Wildcats for pick them's sake,
Speaker 2: because you and I are tied for last place. So
Speaker 2: I am going to zig where I assume you will zag,
Speaker 2: and I will pick Arizona to beat Kansas in a
Speaker 2: game that comes down to the wire. I will take
Speaker 2: the same score Cam does eighty three eighty two, but
Speaker 2: I'll take the other team winning. And it's not that
Speaker 2: I don't think Kansas is better, and it's not that
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll have a home court advantage. They do.
Speaker 2: I don't like after watching UCF get so many quality
Speaker 2: looks against Kansas, I don't like thinking of what Arizona
Speaker 2: who is in a lot of ways, just a better,
Speaker 2: more clean version of Arizona of UCF, A much better
Speaker 2: version of them. They can shoot well, they shoot the
Speaker 2: free throw very well, and they protect the ball pretty well. Now,
Speaker 2: the good news for Kansas in this matchup, Arizona's the
Speaker 2: worst team in the Big twelve when it comes to
Speaker 2: forcing turnovers. So all those turnover woes Kansas has. They
Speaker 2: only had five against Zona in the first game. That
Speaker 2: should be better and that should help Kansas. But I'm
Speaker 2: gonna pick the team with the fresh legs and that's Arizona.
Speaker 2: But I think it's really close and absolutely this is
Speaker 2: a game Kansas can win. This is the most important
Speaker 2: game in Kansas's season. If you win it, you probably
Speaker 2: find your way back to near five seed status.
Speaker 1: I you have pretty correctly. I will take Kansas to
Speaker 1: win the game. I think it also will be high scoring.
Speaker 1: Give me Kansas like eighty four to seventy nine. I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty close. This also, Caleb Love also smacks
Speaker 1: of the type of player that absolutely could average twenty
Speaker 1: a night in this tournament and win three games or something.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if Arizona is good enough to
Speaker 1: do that. He also smacks like the kind of guy
Speaker 1: that and his team is. I agree the type of
Speaker 1: team there. They are a little overseeded here, they kind
Speaker 1: of out kick their coverage a little bit this year
Speaker 1: in conference play. They are a solid team for sure.
Speaker 1: I think Kansas is gonna play with a little momentum.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how much the tire legs
Speaker 1: are gonna come into it. Maybe they maybe it will
Speaker 1: more than I'm thinking. Arizona is rested. But I think
Speaker 1: I think Kansas is playing. They're probably out playing Arizona
Speaker 1: over the last few games.
Speaker 2: Oh, they definitely are. Yeah, Arizona's like four and six
Speaker 2: in their last ten or something like that.
Speaker 1: So I'll take the Jayhawks here to dance on at
Speaker 1: least one more day and we'll see who they play tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna I think they'll get it.
Speaker 1: I'll take the Hawks, you know, in a fun game.
Speaker 2: Other games. Number twelve Iowa State versus Number seventeen BYU.
Speaker 2: I am not gonna pick against the Cyclones. I know,
Speaker 2: in my original like Big twelve tournament picks, I did
Speaker 2: take BYU getting to the semis. But after thinking about it,
Speaker 2: like it's Iowa State and Kansas City, that should not
Speaker 2: be an oversight. I'll take the Cyclones, and if I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: I will not feel bad.
Speaker 1: Agree.
Speaker 2: Colorado versus Number two Houston. It's been a fun, real
Speaker 2: ride for the Buffs. They've gotten a couple of complimentary
Speaker 2: nights in Kansas City, But I think that this is
Speaker 2: where it ends.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think Houston sits on Colorado.
Speaker 2: And Baylor versus number nine Texas Tech. Here is where
Speaker 2: I will pick the upset that to try to get
Speaker 2: back with you picking Kansas. I think Baylor beats Tech.
Speaker 2: I think Baylor is nasty, talented and it's just a
Speaker 2: matter of time before they put it all together. I
Speaker 2: think this is their signature win.
Speaker 1: I think Tech is pretty far and away the second
Speaker 1: best team in the conference, and they are flirting with
Speaker 1: the two seeds. So give me the Red Raiders.
Speaker 2: Here we go with other games. Four in the SEC,
Speaker 2: a few in the ACC, and a few in the
Speaker 2: Big East. Arkansas versus All and as Cam likes ole
Speaker 2: miss money Line, I agree. I'm not trusting the Hogs
Speaker 2: at this point. Same Texas versus number fourteen Texas A
Speaker 2: and M. You said on the last show that you
Speaker 2: liked the winner of Texas v. Vandy to beat A
Speaker 2: and M. Do you still.
Speaker 1: Yes? Actually, I think Texas is gonna make a real
Speaker 1: case here. I'm gonna give them the long Horns the win.
Speaker 2: I will not. I think that Rodney Terry will happen
Speaker 2: and Buzz Williams is three times the coach he is.
Speaker 2: Give me the Aggies at not home. It's in Nashville.
Speaker 2: It's a fun place. Mississippi State versus number twenty one Missouri,
Speaker 2: two teams going in opposite directions. Aggies are surging, Tigers
Speaker 2: are slumping. I will trust reluctantly one more time Missou
Speaker 2: to get a win in this tournament. Same and then Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: who's as hot as anyone in the conference right now,
Speaker 2: is playing number fifteen Kentucky, who can't stop a cold.
Speaker 2: Is this where Porter's run ins? I man, I think
Speaker 2: it is. I'm not trusting Porter, and I think Kentucky
Speaker 2: by winning this game will put Oklahoma legitimately as on
Speaker 2: the bubble as a team can be.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, if they in here there's no doubt, then
Speaker 2: I'll give it to him. Then you've gone from six
Speaker 2: to twelve an SEC play to eight and twelve. And
Speaker 2: I know that's not a great record, but eight and
Speaker 2: twelve is probably a tournament team in the worst team
Speaker 2: and in the best conference we've ever seen, considering they
Speaker 2: were four and twelve. Then you get to eight eight
Speaker 2: out of twenty, that's probably enough I'll give I'll tip,
Speaker 2: I'll give them their flowers if they win this. North
Speaker 2: Carolina going for a tournament berth against wake Forest. I
Speaker 2: will say they do, and it sets up ESPN's dream.
Speaker 1: Matchup You and c by a decent amount.
Speaker 2: Stanford versus Number thirteen Louisville. The Duke official Twitter page
Speaker 2: went out and complained about Pat Kelsey winning ACZ Coach
Speaker 2: the Year over John Shire. They are wrong and Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey's the national Coach of the Year. He'll get a
Speaker 2: win against Stanford.
Speaker 1: Also, this matchup just happened in Louisville beat him by twenty.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be buying that much.
Speaker 2: But Louisville wins SMU versus number ten Clemson. I think
Speaker 2: this is the closest of the three ACC powers, but
Speaker 2: it's still the favorite. Give me the Tigers yep. Butler
Speaker 2: versus number six Saint John's heavy favorite. Will all go
Speaker 2: with Rick Patino squad YEP number twenty five Marquette. They
Speaker 2: are the lower seated team here taking on Xavier. I
Speaker 2: I feel like I've lost so many pick up points
Speaker 2: with with Shaka recently. I don't know. I'll go with
Speaker 2: them one more time.
Speaker 1: Gross, I'm gonna go Xavier and that will put that
Speaker 1: That's bad news for a lot of bubble teams because
Speaker 1: that probably puts Xavior in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are right there, especially then you're talking about
Speaker 2: West Virginia. West Virginia is a big Marquette fan. To
Speaker 2: night de Paul versus Creighton, this feels like we're DePaul's
Speaker 2: run ins and Creyton gets a gift of a game here.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: And then Villanova versus that's not right, Villanova versus Yukon.
Speaker 2: That is an entertaining matchup. I will you know what
Speaker 2: the clock says, it's March. I guess that means it's
Speaker 2: time to bet on Danny Hurley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Clocks don't say what time of year it is.
Speaker 1: It's almost decided. You got your.
Speaker 2: Calendars that yeah, yeah, gross. Okay, So here is the plan.
Speaker 2: If Kansas beats Arizona, Landon is probably out. He's a
Speaker 2: game time decision, but trending on the wrong side of
Speaker 2: questionable because of illness. So it'll probably be Cam and
Speaker 2: I recording later on tonight and getting a show that
Speaker 2: will drop early Friday morning. We are going to If
Speaker 2: Kansas wins, you can you'll wake up the next day
Speaker 2: to a show that will continue to be a thing.
Speaker 2: If they lose, you won't hear from us till after
Speaker 2: you have a bracket. But if they win, we'll talk
Speaker 2: to you tomorrow and land and rest that voice. You're
Speaker 2: gonna need it. With the five hundredth show spectacular coming up.
Speaker 2: This is four ninety six, We're almost there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can only imagine what's gonna happen round to
Speaker 1: thirty two loss when a show five hundred happens.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, all this time we've I've been
Speaker 2: excited like they might win enough big twelve tournament games
Speaker 2: where the round of sixty four will be the five
Speaker 2: hundredth show and oh no, not the first Bill loss
Speaker 2: in the first round in twenty years. But yeah, we'll
Speaker 2: see ITP five hundred coming up in a couple weeks.
Speaker 2: Good job persevering and getting this knocked out at a
Speaker 2: weird time. I gotta go to work. You gotta rest
Speaker 2: your boy. This is ITP.
Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Landrath, I'm Landon Fields.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll see what happens. More basketball the
Speaker 2: night and more IP very soon.
Speaker 1: Fun time of a year. It's going to be a blast,
Speaker 1: See you guys tomorrow maybe