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in Kevin Reynolds of the Solid Tribune. Kevin, how thatck are.

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Speaker 1: You, buddy?

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Speaker 3: I'm good man.

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Speaker 1: How are you living the dream?

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Speaker 2: Man? Appreciate you hopping on and talking some ball with us.

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What he's been recently publicizing there at the Solid Tribune.

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Speaker 1: What you've been writing about recently, keV, Well.

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Speaker 3: We just finished up the Kilani saga of last week,

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so that was that was kind of the main thing

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from a week ago, and now we kind of move

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into an off season now where we have Utah making

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private equity deals and by you trying to sayigure out

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how it's going to get you know, break through to

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the playoffs next year. And yeah, we'll move on to

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Speaker 2: Well, let's discuss the Kalani Satake situation here.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of it?

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Speaker 2: What did you take away from that particular saga leading

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Speaker 3: A couple of things. First, I don't think I ever

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really believe that Klana Sataki was actually going to leave

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for Penn State or really anywhere, because Kilani is a

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BYU guy. He grew up rooting for BYU, he played

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for Lavelle Edwards, and I think he's in a really

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good situation when you look overall at what he could

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with BYU being in the Big Twelve now having a

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power Power Conference affiliation. He's won twenty two twenty what

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that's the most of the Big Twelve over that time

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has BYU in a championship game in the third year.

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the university, who was winning and highly successful, yet it

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took this long to give him a contract extension and

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give him the resources that he needs to compete and

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go to the college playoff. When you look at around

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one sport, and I think the question was will it

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invest in the high level in football too, And I

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think Klanie play played the cards right and the fact

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that he was saying, hey, like, look at all the

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success that BYU football's had, It's the flagship program. No

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matter how good basketball is, football is the flagship program

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the flagship program. And like, I don't think he was

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what he needs. And I thought I was. I was

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Texas or Alabama. I think he was just genuinely wanting

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to feel respected at BYU. And the other part is

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going forward where they can be a consistent player in

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the top fifteen. And I think now that that looks

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postgame comments from Kilani. Did you buy chance some of

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get the extension done way before. Even last year's extension

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wasn't good enough. I think he's saying it wasn't maybe

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bye week. It wasn't, and it lingered on, so I

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didn't know if BYU was going to get that done.

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as head coach, but I don't make all the rules.

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a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts reactions to that, No, Yeah, I think that's

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just what we're talking about, is like, why did YU

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long list. I mean, I know Jay Hill is in

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the building, and I know he could potentially be a

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he'll be a head coach somewhere else for sure, because

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of how successful he's been going back to Weaver State

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and then what he's done at BYU. But at the

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same time, you have a guy in the building who

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wants to be there, who has been extremely successful, has

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has knows this job better than anyone, like pretty much

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for over a decade, and they couldn't get it done.

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be interested in Kawani Sataki, and if that was not

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Penn State, it was going to be somebody else. That's

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really BYU should be not focused on that, because this

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is a time when you sign a recruiting class, the

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best recruiting class you've had in a really long time,

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best lender, Kaline Sintake, you have rider Liones brock Herris,

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about Penn State and Kline Satake. That to me feels

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like feels like it was avoidable, and I don't know,

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obviously in the end it was. We'll look back at

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it and we will probably see the recruiting class and

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the Big twelve title, but feels like it was definitely avoidable.

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Speaker 2: Still top twenty one class, they got it done right,

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and that could have it could have been bad, but

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Speaker 1: Top twenty one class.

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Speaker 2: If BYU is overachieving right now versus their composite score,

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their recruiting ranking, I think they had the seventieth best

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talent per two four seven in college football. They've gone

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eleven and two in back to back seasons. They were

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but they're knocking on the door right now. What's the

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potential for this Cougar football team that continually overachieved versus

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maybe the talents and even the resources that they've had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they. I think you're right. I was

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signing day last week, and he kind of said the

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positive scores like you're talking about, and those aren't everything,

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twenty five consistently. And I think we still need to

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see that build out for BYU. I don't think an

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overnight six and those guys don't really get there until

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twenty twenty seven. But yeah, I think the ceiling grows higher,

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look like? I think the big question in this state

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will be for the next month or so about this

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private equity deal from Utah. Oh yeah, and the ripple

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effects around the Big twelve, the Big the Big ten,

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the SEC and what does that actually look like? So

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those are probably the toskers I think will be the

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most interesting.

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Speaker 2: Give you your take, and I'm sure your your your

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counterparts there at the trip have written about the UH

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the private equity deal with Outro Capital. What do you

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make of it? What do we know about it? What

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does this do for University of Utah athletics? What does

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it all mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think probably I guess for me two things. One,

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I think it was inevitable that somebody was going to

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get private equity in the mix of college football, just

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because it does take so much money to compete in

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college athletics. If you're going to do REGs share and

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you're going to do nil and you're going to have

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to invest thirty twenty thirty forty million dollars into football

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rosters to make the college football playoffs and get the

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financial rewards of being competitive and the everything that comes

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with being a college football playoff team. Obviously, these a

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lot of schools were cast strapped, and Utah was kind

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of one of them. I mean, they were going to

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be running a deficit. Mark Carlin said that for the

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next few years. I think they were in seventeen million

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dollar deficit last year, and I know part of that

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is to do with the Pac twelve and everything there,

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dollars every year. But at the same time, I think

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a lot of schools needed to find a solution to

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it and get more of a cash influx. And this

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seems like it's going to bring in hundreds of million

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dollars for Utah, So there is the inevitability of that.

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But at the same time, like I think, there's real

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questions about how if this is a good thing, if

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this is where college athletics should be moving. I know

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there's guardrails in place, and Utah has said there's guardrails

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in place. But what actually happens when push comes to

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show and the you know, Utah football is losing or

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a basketball team is losing. What happens with the the

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people in private equity who we've seen in every other

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every other sector of where private equity fits like, it's

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I don't know if you can expect that college football

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will be completely different with college private equity than it was,

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you know, I mean, look at our business with newspapers

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right Like, I don't know if that's going to look

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completely different just because it's college athletics and because there's

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guardrails like do they have stay in coaching staff hires

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or when you know, what does pricing look like for fans?

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It's like, how does that change the fan experience? And

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what does that look like? If it's not going well

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like this? Are there kind of off ramps? And I

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don't know if we have all the answers, and I

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think but I do think there are serious questions to

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be asked about all of this and what the future

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looks like for Utah and then the other school that

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goes goes into it, and we'll see. I mean, look

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at Michigan, they've already said that they didn't. They did

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not feel comfortable with this, So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Last thing, keV. Best way to support to you what

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you do, how you do it. For all those that

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are tuning in, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Just go solid tribute and read read our stuff. We

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really appreciate it and we'll have a lot of stuff

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on all the stuff we're talking about now.

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Speaker 2: Love it, Kevin, appreciate you man, Thanks for hopping on.

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Great great comments, great segment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank man.

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