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Speaker 1: Well off of a weekend that has seen a couple

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of championship fight wins for Oscar Corlazzo and Gabriella Fondora

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on the same card. We're ready to recap that. We

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also have an Australian welterweight eliminator fight for the IBF

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to also recap, as well as some news and much more.

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Hello there, Welcome into the Fight Preaching Night recap podcast.

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I am the somewhat lucid host TJ Reeves. Our insider

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is Big Dan Raphael, Fight Preaching Night, the Substack and

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the newsletter. Good to be with you, my friend. Full disclosure,

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I have been enthralled, engrossed in a dramatic Tampa Bay

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Buccaneer victory on Sunday afternoon late over the New York Jets.

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You have no love for them. You're a Giants guy

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that improved the Bucks to three and zero. I was

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the emergency fill in play by play guy on the broadcast,

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So I have had an afternoon, my friend, although a

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happy postgame show. The food tastes better the Hooters post

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game show, by the way, after the win. Uh So,

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now we come in here to talk some fights.

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It's the original wing joint after all. All right, how

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Speaker 2: But in a little while, when we're done taping this,

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I'm gonna punish myself. Watching the Giants was going to

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get ruined out of the Kansas City Chiefs.

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So engage with us. There, all of that out of

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the way. When is a tow being thrown in? Not

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enough for a stoppage? Let's talk about this with Oscar

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Colazo's strawweight unified title defense as he fought Jason Vason

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of the Philippines. All right, I have to say I

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have seen a replay of the stoppage. I was not

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watching the fight with everything going on. I am aware

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from my Dan Rayhael substack. There's controversy, controversy even in

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Vason's own corner about whether the tals should have been

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thrown in. Referee Thomas Taylor stops the fight Dan fill

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in the blanks and give us the inside.

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Speaker 2: This was kind of crazy. I mean, this was the

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main event of the Golden Boys show. He's back at

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the Fantasy Springs in India where he won the first

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title he won when he stopped Melvin Jerusalem. He's now

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defending the title. He has since unified two of the belts,

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hoping for unification, but he can't get those fights just yet.

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So they've got him lined up. But as you mentioned,

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Jason Vason from the Philippines who spaw some good guys.

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His one loss coming into this fight was to Akui,

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who had went on to win a flyway title. Tough,

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tough fighter, so not a terrible matchup. And anyway, they're

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putting on a good fight. This is a good, exciting, solid,

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interesting fight. As they're going along, Colaso's winning, but Jason's

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having his moments. He's laying in some sharp punches, he's

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sitting them to the body. I mean, you know, it's

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not the fight of the year, but it's you know,

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it's a nice fight, we're saying, and I know Klaso

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is winning, but the other guy's in the fight. He's

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not been down, he's not been badly hurt, even though

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he's been touched up a little bit, but he's also

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landed some good shots on Colaso.

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Speaker 3: And the the.

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Speaker 2: Round starts, this is uh, you know, they're in the

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seventh round. Not a nothing earthshaking is happening, you know.

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Kalasa West backed him up towards the ropes. He had

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opened the around with a nice body shot. But this

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is not in the one millionth you know, most damaging

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type of round you've ever seen. There was just a

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normal boxing around. Nothing's really happening. Guy's land punches all

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the time, he lands a body shot. The guy backs

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to the to the ropes, and then out of nowhere,

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Thomas Taylor, who's the referee, turns around. I guess he

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got they got his attention, and the vase in the

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corner is resigning the fight, and you're like, what the

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fuck is going on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This this was I mean, look, I don't want to

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be overly dramatic, but this was when when you first

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see this, you're like, something must have happened. He must

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have an injury, some some kind of signal. But I'm

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telling you there was, so you don't want to like

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jump to a conclusion or rush to a judgment you

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want to, you know, you say, well that was unusual.

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Let's see what the reason was. Well, as it turned out,

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there was really no actual reason. When they interviewed Vassin afterwards,

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it's going through a translator because he's speaking in his

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native Filipino dialect and the translator is talking. He wasn't

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even like that upset. He was basically saying, I respect

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my corner. They thought I was groggy, but I wasn't.

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He clearly wasn't.

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Speaker 3: It just was. And I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Suggesting this is the case, but if you made the

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leap and say, oh my god, they probably.

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Speaker 3: Had money on the round, I mean, I mean, give

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me a break, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But you wrote in your sub stack that one of

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the cornermen was arguing with the one that threw the

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towel and after the fight and one of the fight restarted.

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Speaker 3: Correct and you know, you know you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: So they're talking to the referee, they're talking to one

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of the commissioners or to the executive director whoever was

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the official there on BEF in the ring for the commission.

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And you know that's just in boxing, it's not how

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it works. He's the referee, sees the towel, stop the fight,

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fights over. Now, I'm not saying that Thomas Taylor didn't

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do the right thing, because ninety nine times, at of

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one hundred or nine hundred, ninety nine times out of

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a thousand, the corner throws in the towel, you're gonna

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stop the fight. But it is not without precedent that

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a corner would throw in a towel and the referee

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would say uh and not stop to fight. This was

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the type of stoppage. And again I'm not criticizing Thomas Taylor.

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I'm not it's a split second. Thomas Taylor, for my

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money's the best referee in boxing. But it would not

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have been outside of his purview to say no, no, no,

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we're not stopping this fight. Because he's there, he sees

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what's happening. He knows there's no real damage taking place.

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And then, just to cite the most famous example years ago,

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the fight in the UK, Michael could see this in

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a fight and there's all kinds of craziness going on,

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and guys are up and guys are down, and they're

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trying to throw in the towel and the referee throws

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the towel out of the ring and the guy that

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they were trying to stop the fight for ends up

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scoring a knockdown.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, stuff happens.

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Speaker 2: So but he did elect to stop the fight and

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it was inexplicable, and you know, the commentators on his

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own Mannix and Sergio more I thought was gonna have

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a true law.

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Speaker 1: He lost his mind. I'm sure now the distinction that's important.

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The referee is ultimately in charge. Here, follow up again

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and clarify on that go ahead.

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Speaker 2: No, the referee is the one that's got the final say.

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I mean, you know, you've heard it a thousand times

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when they stepped to the to the center of the ring,

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or the rules interpreter on the television goes over. Only

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the abcials. Only the referee can stop the fight. There

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go Now, they'll usually take direction from the from the

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corner and or the doctor or if you know the commissioner.

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You know there says something. I mean, they're not immune

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to that. They'll listen to what they have to say.

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By the way, the famous fight that I'm thinking of

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was the Master and Michael could see this in the

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UK against Graham earl and the earl corner.

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Speaker 3: Throwing in the.

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Speaker 2: Towel was one of the wackiest things you'll ever see,

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I suggested, and it was a tremendous battle. Go on on,

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trust the YouTube and watch the fight. Ultimately can see

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this one by a fifth round knockout, but they were

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trying to stop the fight before that. It was one

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of the weirdest things you've seen. But the point is

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Klaso retains the title. He was happy. He you know,

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in his post fight comments he said he felt like

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it was a fine stoppage, but of course he's gonna

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say that because he's the one that gets to victory

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and retains the belt, both belts. And the thing about

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Vasin that just is mind boggling is this is a

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guy who's unlikely to get this type of opportunity again

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in his career. He's in there fighting for two of

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the world titles, a life changing opportunity. He's in the fight.

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It's not like he's being completely destroyed or outclassed or

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been down three times and cut or battered or anything

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like that. This is a competitive fight.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: On the scorecards, it turned out that Calasa was at

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fifty nine to fifty five on all three carters. The

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people whose opinions I saw on social media, Chris Mannix,

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who was the unofficial scorer for his own my own scorecard,

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we all had it a little bit closer. I had

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a fifty eight to fifty six Mannix, I think at

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at one point closer than that. But this was an

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actual fight. And by the way, there's still half the

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fight to go, because they stopped at early in around seven,

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and you still got the remainder of the fight, so

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you never know what can happen. And let me tell

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you I Vasin was clipping him in the body, and

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you know he did not like that. As they say,

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who do so?

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Speaker 1: All right, so Colaso, Colaso gets the win. You talk

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to us in the preview mode, what's the likelihood that

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he could get another built in a unification type situation

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versus might he look to move up? Who knows? What's

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your What did he say afterwards? What's you're inkling on

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the future for Colosmal.

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Speaker 2: He wants to do a unification and there's that means

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there's two other belts out there, the WBC Belt, which

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would mean a rematch with Melvin Jerusalem, where he defeated

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the first time for the WBO title. After he defeated

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Jerusalem for the WBO, Jerusalem a couple of fights later

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went on and won the WBC title. He has a

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title defense scheduled coming up that is supposed to take place.

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That's a mandatory fight that he's going to do, so

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obviously he'd have to get through that or end or

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fight the winner of that match. So there's no no

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guarantees that that could happen, you know, for different reasons.

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Speaker 3: You know who that knows.

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Speaker 2: Although the good the one good thing about the way

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that any of these fights with strawwaits. He's the guy

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that can bring the money. There's not like gazillions of

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dollars from Melvin Jerusalem fights. The other champion he's fighting

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in October October twenty ninth in the Philippines, which is

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where he's from. The other title holder in the IBF

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is also, by coincidence, a Filipino Pedro To Duran. He

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has a title defense that was just announced for October

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twenty sixth against a fellow Filipino at named Christian ballin Nunn.

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So they both have fights coming up, but they're not

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there like in the next month or so. So the

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guys who win those fights, whether it's the reigning title

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holders or the guys that become the champion. I believe

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that with Golden Boy having a nice TV deal with

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his own and the strawweight division not commanding crazy money,

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that any of those matches are possible. So I would

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hope that Golden Boy would make a very concerted effort

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to go get him one of those other titles, whether

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Tad Duran or the guy who if he loses, just

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trying to make the fight is that strawweight there's no

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other names like you do the unifications. At least he

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gets some spice out of it. Maybe take him to

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Poor Rica where he's from. He has yet to defend

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the title, you know in Puerto Rico. He's fought in California.

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and fought in Mexican a contender. So you know, the

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guy is very talented, he's very exciting, and I'd like

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to see him get the opportunity to be a unified

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champion and or I should say undisputed champion in the

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history of the straweight division, not the most popular division,

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one that we talk about a whole lot, but because

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he was in action this week and it's worthwhile and

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he is a very exciting young fighter. There has never

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been an undisputed champion in the straweight division. Now, the

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division was created in nineteen eighty seven, so it's now

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been obviously a very long time since the division has existed.

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of time, but never has there been an undisputed You know,

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it was created during the three belt era, and nobody

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ever became the three belt champion, certainly not in the

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four belt era. You know, when you look at the

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history of the division, the greatest fighters who ever participated

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in that division in one championships. Are you talking about

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guys who are in the Hall of Fame? Ravin Calderon

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who was a recent inductee, Ricardo Finito Lopez who's probably

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the greatest weight ever retired undefeated and soon after he

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retires will be in the Hall of Fame, is Roman Chocolate,

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Tito Gonzalaz. I mean that's the those are the class

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of the division history. I mean, those are the types

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of guys that we're talking about, So hopefully Klasa will

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get that opportunity now, he said. He mentioned if he

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doesn't get those types of fights, which is what he wants,

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the suggestion was would he move up and wait two

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weight classes from one oh five to one to twelve

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to challenge his Golden Boys stablemate, the Mexican American Ricardo Sandoval,

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who recently scored the big upset in Japan over Taraji

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to win the unified title at flyweight. He was on

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hand to receive his belt's. Oscar de la Hoye, his

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promoter and obviously the co promoter of Colaso, was in

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the ring, did a nice presentation to give him the

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two belts. If you can't get to unification, I guess

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that would be something interesting. There was also and they

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didn't really mention this. I don't know if he wants

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to fight his countryman. One of one hundred and eight

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pounds title holders is Brene Santiago, who's also from Puerto Rico.

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no brainer. You go, you fucking make the strawweight unification

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and at least, you know, let the guy try to

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you know, and and the opponent get the opportunity for

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some historical accomplishments, and beyond that, you know who the

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heck knows. But uh, you know, he's a small guy.

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I would think one hundred and twelve might be where

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he matches out in terms of where you could fight effectively.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, But Kalaso does get the victory, all right. Co

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feature fight Gabrielle.

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Speaker 3: Terrible stoppage by the way, just all yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, as you said, don't fault

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Thomas Taylor on that, you're not.

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Speaker 2: I don't fall t Taylor. I don't fought Vason. I

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don't fall Palazzo, although I'd like to have seen Vason

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maybe put up a little bit more of a complaint,

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you know, because he wasn't hurt.

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Speaker 3: He knows it. I mean, I don't know. I mean,

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if there's ever grounds for firing your trainer right there?

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All right.

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Speaker 1: Gabriella Fundoral wins and the co feature retains the undisputed

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women's flyweight championship. We love her for activity, and she

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had a basically it's fair to say, an overmatched opponent.

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Speaker 2: Here, give me more on this, yeah, I mean, this

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was a complete mismatch from the opening belt, not her fault.

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Speaker 3: Obviously she wins. She did her job.

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Speaker 2: Again, it's Alexis kabout to Kubiki, who was a late

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replacement in terms of filling in for the Originally the

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fight that was made was Fendora versus her WBA mandatory

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challenger Eileen gryarant Garandino, but she did not get her

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visa from Argentina in time, so Kubicki was pressed into service,

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and she gave an effort, but and she was you know,

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I'm not knocking her heart or her desire, but you know,

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she stuck her her nose in there. But she got

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just absolutely pummeled. I mean, this fight could have been

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stopped a thousand times during the course of those one

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sided seven rounds. And you remember, these women's fights are

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two men around. So she took hollacious damage every round

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from the first bell to the time the fight was

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finally stopped. You know, even right before the fight was stopped,

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as they entered the seventh round, the referee call the

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time out to have the doctor take a look at her.

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They let the fight go, and you know, within you know, earlier,

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within a little bit into that round, she was unleashing that.

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You know, Fendora was unleashing these tremendous flurries of combination

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punches and just and rolling her head all over the place,

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and just how to stop the fight, so complete and

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absolute mismatch. She defends the undisputed title for the second time,

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fifth overall title defense, and she won her first of

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the belts. Look, she is a tremendous young fighter. She's

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only twenty three years old. She is now seventeen to

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zero with nine knockouts, and she's been knocking girls out

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over the last fights, which is something you don't see

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a ton of in women's boxing. She's bigger than all

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of her opponents. She's stronger than all of her opponents.

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She's quicker than her opponents. She's got a much longer

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reach than most of her opponents. Because even think about this,

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she's a flyweight one hundred and twelve pounds. She actually

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weighed in as did her opponent, about one hundred and

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ten in change, so she was well under the contract limit.

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very tall for that weight class period, So she towered

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over her opponent similar to like when you watch her brother,

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Sebastian Fandora, who towers over his opponents in the jymmor

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middleweight division. She actually talked about the possibility of maybe

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moving down in weight if she wants to win another

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title in another weight class. So I feel like she

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can go to one hundred and eight with not a

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big problem and do what she needs to do there.

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weight division at some point, where right now she's not.

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Oscar de la Hoya, who is her promoter, did an

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interview about the fight and basically said, look, she's still learning,

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she's still getting better. You know, two or three more

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fights now, people are going to start talking about Gabrielle

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Fandoras perhaps the number one pound four pound female boxer

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in the world, because at some point, the top women

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who are there right now, you're Claressa Shields and Katie

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Taylor and Amanda Serrano and you know, Mikhaela Mayer and

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you know Alicia Baumgarter. You know, they're all much older

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than that. You know, they're into their thirties at this point.

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So although they're still obviously outstanding fighters, they're not going

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to be around forever, so eventually it's going to be

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a younger like girl, woman who's in her twenties, who

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may may be able to take over that position in

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the not too distant future.

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Speaker 1: And she definitely has been active, she's been delivering big wins.

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Speaker 2: So I have to say, though as much entertainment value

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as we have seen from some of the top women

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more most notably Serrano and Taylor, for my money, I

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think Gabrielle Fandora might be the most entertaining of the

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female box there's a take no I mean, and Mikaela

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makes good fights. She was in the Rumble Rumbles with

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Sandy Ryan. I mean, I'm not saying she's the only

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one that makes a good fight, But the thing that

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separates Fondora for me compared to all these other outstanding

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women is that she's knocking people out right and the

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other ones they are much more sporadic in terms of

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when they get knocked on. Like Katie Taylor is a

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great fighter, but she's got like five knockouts and like

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twenty plus wins, you know what I mean, So she's

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not really scoring a lot of big knockouts, and Fondora

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is putting hurt on these women. She's punishing them, and

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that's more interesting to watch if you ask.

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Speaker 1: Me, We're not blood thirsty, but yes, she's more not.

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Speaker 3: Blood thirsty but action. You know, she comes to bring it.

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Speaker 1: Fill out the rest of the undercard, including the junior

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welter Wade Abdolajev and his win and what else. Off

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this undercard for the Golden Boys his zone show real quick.

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Speaker 2: So you have the The Golden Boy signed a junior

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walter eight named Rusalem Abdelive who was from Uzbekistan. He

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trains with Joel Diaz, as do several of the Uzbekistan

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fighters in southern California, so he sort of makes that

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his second home, which is in the same region as India.

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He was in Olympian in twenty twenty four. You know,

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good pedigree obviously, So now he's three and oh and

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you know he came with a lot of hype when

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he came into the pros and he was in an

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eight rounder against a club fighter level guy, but a

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guy that's supposed to be having a lot of ability

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but doesn't really show up as top notch when the

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lights go on.

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Speaker 3: If you know what I mean. Al he's known.

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Speaker 2: This guy Kevin Johnson known is great in the gym,

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but maybe not so much when the real fights happened.

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So he fell to twelve and eight and abdlive. Although

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he did not get the knockout, you know, he just

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ran through the guy. He won basically a shout out.

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He won a shout out in one sportcard eighty to

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seventy two, seventy nine to seventy three, and the other two.

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And he's a real prospect. I mean, he's a guy

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to keep an eye on. It was an eight rounder,

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like I said, only his third pro fight, and keep

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an eye on him. He's got a good team behind him.

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Golden Boy will give him a push. Joel Diaz is

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a top trainer. He obviously has that background with the Olympics,

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so he's definitely a got to keep an eye. He

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was getting some good exposure on this card. And then

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the other fight that was a prospectee that was interesting

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was you have the welterweight from Bakersfield, California, Joel erie Arte,

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who basically did everything as an amateur other than beyond

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the Olympic team. He's been with Golden Boys since day one.

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He's now nine to zero with eight knockouts. He scored

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a third round knockout against his Mexican opponent and Wardo Hernandez.

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He's definitely a prospect to keep an eye on. They're

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bringing him along also, I mean, Golden Boy's got some

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sneaky good prospects in their stable. Between those two guys,

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they got Joshua Edwards, the heavyweight that's coming along, and others.

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I mean, they don't get as much hype maybe as

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some of the prospects that you see from Top Rank

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or from match Room Boxing, or some of the Frank

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Warren guys.

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Speaker 3: But Golden Boy sneaky.

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Speaker 2: Gut guys and gals who are very solid fighters in

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their stable. I'm not really sure why they don't get

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that kind of hype, but they deserve it, you know,

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at least as much as some of the other ones

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we see get the hype.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're propping them up here on the pod and

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obviously on your sub stack. Okay, So there was one

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other fight of significance and that his former IBF Junior

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welterweight champ, Liam Parro in his home country of Australia

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was victorious on Thursday night in Australia Thursday morning, US time.

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As it turns out, all right, tell me more about

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Paro's win and what does it mean in the welterweight

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division one weight class up.

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Speaker 2: Well, what it means is he because he wins this fight,

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he's going to get a world title fight. He became

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because this was an official IBF welterweight eliminator. He will

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be the mandatory now for the newly crowned IBF champion,

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which is Lewis Crocker, who obviously had won the vacant

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title on the previous Saturday when he was in Belfast

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against his Irish countrymen and got the upset split decision

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against Patty Donovan in their rematch. So eventually, you know,

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I don't think the mandatory is due just at the moment,

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but eventually Paro will be in line to get that

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mandatory against Crocker. But in terms of the fight that

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he'd had, remember he lost his title to Sabrill Matias.

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has since won two fights, well, first one was a

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little bit over the welterweight limit one hundred and forty

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three or so pounds decided he's going to go to

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welterweight officially and stay in that weight less. So this

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was at the full fledged welterweight limit. You know, he

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he is an IBF former champion. They gave him a

469
00:21:13,599 --> 00:21:15,519
high ranking. So he was in this eliminator against a

470
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French fighter, a fellow south pund named David Papou, who

471
00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:21,039
was undefeated, who was like thirty and oh with a

472
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,440
draw going into the fight. And it was a close fight.

473
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On the scorecards you had Paro winning one seventeen to

474
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,400
one eleven and one sixteen to one twelve twice. I

475
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,519
did see a lot of people who saw the fighter,

476
00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:36,599
some of the Australian folks that like follow me on

477
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,799
social media who were like saying that it was they

478
00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:40,359
thought that it was a lot closer, even though they

479
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,720
were rooting for their guy in Paro. But regardless, Paro

480
00:21:44,839 --> 00:21:47,039
gets to win. He had to overcome a very badly

481
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,720
swollen right eye. He got caught with a nice right

482
00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:52,200
hand and like the fourth round, fifth round something like that,

483
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,279
his eye just blew up. I saw some photos of

484
00:21:54,319 --> 00:21:57,200
it too. It looked really gnarly. But he overcame that.

485
00:21:57,279 --> 00:21:59,000
So at the end of the day he wins this

486
00:21:59,079 --> 00:22:03,160
decision on the Nolan card that took place in Australia

487
00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:06,119
in Brisbane, and now he's going to be into a

488
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,279
world championship fight and he'll have an opportunity to win

489
00:22:09,319 --> 00:22:11,039
a title on a second division and we'll.

490
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Speaker 3: See how that plays out.

491
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Speaker 2: I have to say, I mean all respect to Lewis Crocker,

492
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who was a huge underdog and got through and won

493
00:22:17,759 --> 00:22:20,319
the fight against Patty Donovan. But if you're making Paro

494
00:22:20,519 --> 00:22:23,960
versus Crocker like, there's no reason why Paro couldn't win

495
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,079
that fight and become a two division champion. It's not

496
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,559
like Crocker is the neck and coming of you know,

497
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the the top welterweights we've seen in the past. He's

498
00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:34,880
no Terrence Crawford or Errol Spence or Hoyo or it

499
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would think whoever.

500
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't think so, But stay tuned on whether that

501
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,319
fight happens after the Crocker he was a significant underdog

502
00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:45,359
after his underdog win and won the title back before

503
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all right, news, let's get to a little news here.

504
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Speaker 3: News.

505
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Speaker 1: A little Golden Boy did make an announcement on the

506
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weekend here and talked about Oscar de la Hoya talked

507
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,720
about it more, I believe on the card Saturday Night

508
00:22:57,799 --> 00:23:02,240
about the undercard of the upcoming Virgil Ortiz ericson lubin

509
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November twenty eighth show tell us more about that place.

510
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Speaker 2: So that main event, I think we can all agree,

511
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,319
is a really good main event. It's two of the

512
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,160
top guys one hundred and fifty four. They announced that

513
00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:14,240
fight not that long ago, a very interesting match between

514
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,640
two quality guys in the division. Conversely, the co feature

515
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,640
that the announced is the exact opposite. It's everything you

516
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,920
don't want to see, unfortunately, you know, And I'm a

517
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,519
little disappointed because you know, I said on this podcast,

518
00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:28,640
I've written it, I've said it many times. I feel

519
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,720
like Golden Boy puts on some of the best cards

520
00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:30,960
in bo.

521
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Speaker 1: You just you just said that you like the stable

522
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,160
of young fighters.

523
00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 3: They do it.

524
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,759
Speaker 1: Then Oscar and these guys that they're flowers, yes, and

525
00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:41,319
now what kind of toilet water do we have in the.

526
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Speaker 2: Con This is just so disappointing. So Floyd Schofield, who's

527
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,200
obviously an up and coming lightweight contender, comes off his

528
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,279
biggest victory, scores a scorching first round knockout against Tevin

529
00:23:51,319 --> 00:23:54,119
Farmer looked really good and in the aftermath of that

530
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,920
victory and over the last few weeks, there's been a

531
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,759
lot of conversation, uh that they were going to either

532
00:23:58,759 --> 00:24:03,519
fight raymor Ataya for the IBF title. That was in discussions. Uh,

533
00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:07,799
there was conversations that so that that perhaps perhaps that

534
00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:09,440
would happen, which you know, that would be a good

535
00:24:09,599 --> 00:24:12,079
a good fight. There was conversations that he would fight

536
00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:16,039
the MVP contender, Lucas Body, who we know from having

537
00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:20,000
that spectacular knockout against as Ashton Silv. He's won some

538
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:23,680
fights since then. He just recently won on the MVP

539
00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:26,799
card in August that they had And so I'm like, okay,

540
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,160
if he fights Murtai for the title, that's interesting. He

541
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,440
fights Body, that's two good contenders against each other.

542
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: Like we got stake in baked potato on the first

543
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,640
one on the second when we got chicken dinner, but

544
00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:38,799
instead they're going to give us a package of crackers.

545
00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:39,559
I get the feeling.

546
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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

547
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: Now again, I'm not blaming. Maybe maybe they just couldn't

548
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,160
make the fight. I mean, it's so just because it

549
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,240
didn't happen. It's not like Golden boy's fault that those

550
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,039
fights that happened. Maybe Mura Taia had other ideas, maybe

551
00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:52,640
body had other ideas, money this and that. But when

552
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,799
you get when you get teased with those types of

553
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:59,319
fights and you wind up with Schofield against Joseph Diaz Junior,

554
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,480
who's two and six in his last eight fights, who,

555
00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:05,359
in my opinion, has basically no chance to actually win

556
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,400
the fight. Right, You're just very disappointed. Now, to Joseph

557
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,279
Diez's credit, he's coming off the loss to Regis Prograde

558
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:13,319
that was in August. That was at one hundred and

559
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,519
forty two pounds. They put on an absolute sensational slug fest.

560
00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:19,799
Remember that was on the undercard when Oscar Duarte had

561
00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:22,200
the excellent fight with Kenneth Simms and that one hundred

562
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,839
and forty pound eliminator. So Progray and and Diaz, two

563
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,359
guys you know, pass their best for sure, put on

564
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,759
a great fight. But I don't know if he loses

565
00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:33,920
a fight like that to a shot Regis program, you

566
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,440
should be fighting Floyd Schofield, one of the most dynamic

567
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:37,720
Buik fighters in boxing.

568
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Speaker 1: I was in the House of June twenty eighth for

569
00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:43,519
him demolishing Tevin Farmer inside of about two and a

570
00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:46,599
half minutes, sir, and I would much rather see him

571
00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:49,640
in there with a better name, title shot something.

572
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 3: That's just a disappointing fight. Man.

573
00:25:51,519 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: What is your theory here on why they can't get

574
00:25:54,759 --> 00:25:57,200
him a main event slot and he would be willing

575
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,400
to take a co feature slot for this? Is it

576
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,000
just the money?

577
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 2: Well, God's got nothing to do with it. I think

578
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,680
you know, there's only certain amount of dates to go around.

579
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,920
They have a premium main event in lubin versus orties,

580
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:10,319
and so they give him the undercard spot. I'm not

581
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,480
saying he should be the main event. I'm saying you

582
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:14,599
can do better than a two and six Joseph Diaz,

583
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,720
who will a shot in the hell to win the fight,

584
00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:20,960
to actually win. I just think it's a complete and

585
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,359
utter mismatch. So that's unfortunate. I mean, you think coming

586
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,799
off of the Tevin Farmer fight, you've got some momentum.

587
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,319
Speaker 3: Now.

588
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,079
Speaker 2: I know some people say, well, Joseph Diaz beat Tevin Farmer. Yeah,

589
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:32,920
that's years ago before he was a used up shot guy.

590
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,079
I mean, you can't compare the two. At this point.

591
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:37,720
Tevin Farmer is still a good fighter had given Zepeida

592
00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:40,319
to Tallasia's battles and close fights. I mean, so I

593
00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:44,480
don't want to hear that nonsense. It's just disappointing. Although

594
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:48,200
again main event superb with Ortiz and Lubin and so

595
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:50,920
they also added a couple other guys to the show.

596
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,400
To the undercart, they added the super middleweight prospect fringe

597
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,960
up and comer contender. Everyone to describe him, and that's

598
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,839
Darius Fulgeum, who's a fun fight to watch. He's facing

599
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,279
David Stevens. That's actually a pretty good matchup. I kind

600
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:05,559
of like that. That's two guys, one guy's fourteen and

601
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:07,599
one one guy's fifteen and two. That would be a

602
00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:09,319
pretty big win for the guy that can come through

603
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:11,839
with that and can take a definite step forward and

604
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,039
get themselves back on track. Now, Fulgrum his only loss

605
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,839
was to Beck the Bully. They fought an eliminator back

606
00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:20,400
in May. That's a forgivable loss. So if he can

607
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,160
try to right the ship and take care of David Stevens,

608
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,240
you know he'll have a chance to move forward. And

609
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,559
then the four mentioned who I mentioned among the top

610
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,599
Golden Boy prospects is the twenty twenty four United States

611
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,440
Olympian from Houston, Joshua Edwards, who's four to zero with

612
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,200
four knockouts. He's back in action on this card also,

613
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:39,400
and you know he's not fighting a known opponent necessarily,

614
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,559
but anytime you have an American heavyweight with that Olympic

615
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:45,480
pedigree who's knocking guys out, you know you should pay attention.

616
00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:46,960
And so that's one of the other fights a day

617
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:47,839
announced for that card.

618
00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: All right, So that is November twenty eight. That the

619
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,839
end is the Saturday after Thanksgiving, if I'm not mistaken.

620
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,000
So we got a while before that's coming up here.

621
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Speaker 2: Taking place by the way, in Dicky's Arena in Fort Worth, Texas,

622
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:04,279
a home game for Virgil Artist, who comes from nearby

623
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,480
Grand Prairie, Texas.

624
00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:07,519
Speaker 1: We'll see if he sells a lot of tickets there

625
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:10,440
in Fort Worth or not. We I mean, it's fair

626
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,359
to say we are very intrigued for what we're going

627
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,759
to talk about next, which is the Chris u Bank

628
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,440
Junior Nigel Ben rematch. And they can I'm sorry, connor

629
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,079
Bin rematch. I got to keep my u Bank straight.

630
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,000
You Bank Junior nineties connor Bin, And this will be

631
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,400
the the upcoming rematch of what is possibly the fight

632
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,000
of the year earlier this year. All right, so they

633
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:37,240
had the kickoff press conference earlier this week. There were

634
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,599
no eggs being served by Chris you Bank Junior, who

635
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,599
remember famously mocked Connor Bin's excuse for the PD test

636
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,839
with the eggs by smashing an egg on his face.

637
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,680
Did they frisk Chris you Bank Junior to make sure

638
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,440
that he had no eggs on? Don't pressure what happened

639
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,559
there on that and give me any other notes or nuggets.

640
00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:00,599
Speaker 2: Well, anytime Chris you Bank goes to a co he

641
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,559
just says a lot of outlandish and nutty things. So

642
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:04,799
if you remember at the last one, besides the nonsense

643
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:08,519
with the smashed egg in Connor Ben's face, which I

644
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:10,920
guess if I'm not mistaken, he was eventually fined and

645
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,759
punished a certain amount of money by the British Boxing Board.

646
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,640
When they did the press conference, he made some accusations

647
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,839
and said some pretty nasty things about Frank Warren. Frank

648
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,599
Warren sued him. They had to deal with that, and

649
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,559
so he left Frank Warren out of his crosshairs at

650
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:29,319
this press converence and said he went on the attack

651
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,519
against Eddie Hearn and he made some outlandish comments, and

652
00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:35,119
so I'm all for like talking shit at press conference.

653
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,160
It sort of spices things up a little bit. But

654
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:39,200
I've never really been a fan of like the fighter

655
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,880
talking shit to the to the opposing trainer, to the

656
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,880
opposing manager, to the opposing promoter, you know, talk shit

657
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,400
to your opponent. That's the guy you got to get

658
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,359
in the ring and fight, right.

659
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,359
Speaker 1: But last I check, he's not lacing them up with Eddie.

660
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: Hearn a great correct.

661
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: So Eddie Hearn, you know who is obviously the promoter

662
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,720
for Connor Ben and I don't have to see her

663
00:29:57,759 --> 00:29:59,559
and defend Eddie Hearn. Okay, he's a big boy. He

664
00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:01,680
can defend themselves and no one's going to see him

665
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,920
suggest Eddie Hearn is a perfect individual. But the accusation

666
00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:07,680
that Chris Ubank made is if you remember after the

667
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,839
first fight, spectacular fight, like I said, like you said,

668
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,359
you know, good chance to be fight of the year

669
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,119
this year. When that fight was over, both of the

670
00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:17,640
fighters went to the or at least one of them

671
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:21,880
went to the hospital to get checked out. In u Bank,

672
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,880
even though he was the winner, went to get checked

673
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,319
out at the hospital. He made accusations that Eddie Hearn

674
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,079
somehow blocked his ambulance from leaving to take him to

675
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:33,400
the hospital to get examined after the fight, you know,

676
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:36,400
by like twenty minutes or something like that, which is

677
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,359
absolutely preposterous. You know, the British Boxing Board would never

678
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,000
allow that. Fighter safety is a serious matter in these things.

679
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:44,839
Speaker 3: If you go through and.

680
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: You fight a tough fight like that and they tell

681
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,920
you you're going to the hospital, you taken to the

682
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,920
hospital and you don't screw around, I mean that's you know,

683
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:54,759
after care one oh one. So to suggest that Eddie Hearn,

684
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,599
a man who has promoted fights around the world, who

685
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,720
was promoted some of the biggest superstars in the history

686
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,960
about box who was promoted some of the biggest shows

687
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,119
you could possibly ask for, who grew up in boxing, uh,

688
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,880
you know, with his father Barry Hearn, having promoted some

689
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,720
mega fights including by the way, been involved with fights

690
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,839
involving people you may have heard of like Nigel ben

691
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,200
and Uh and uh and Chris you Banks, senor to

692
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:19,440
suggest that he's somehow going to do something to keep

693
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,599
the athlete from being examined because of the fact that

694
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:26,079
they sent to the hospital is just outlandish, and I

695
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:28,839
hope that the British Boxing Board finds him again and

696
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:31,599
and keeps him from saying such stupid shit.

697
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,119
Speaker 1: What was it? I didn't see it, obviously, so I'm ignorant,

698
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,759
and I think a lot of the audience is now curious.

699
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:38,200
What was Eddie's rebuttal? Was he saying that he blocked

700
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,319
the ambulance like with his limo or a caravan of issue?

701
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:44,319
Speaker 2: I don't remember what he was exactly, and what is defense?

702
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,759
Eddie said, you're crazy, he said, I mean paraphrase like,

703
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:50,359
I don't do that. What are you talking about? Absolutely nuts,

704
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,440
that's nutsy cuckoo. I mean again, I mean there's no

705
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,720
there's no promoter. First of all, promoters wouldn't even be

706
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:01,480
probably in that area where the is. They're doing the pride,

707
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:04,920
they're dealing with the Commission. You know, they're getting they're

708
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,839
getting paid, you know, they're getting stuff from the the Commission.

709
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:10,519
They're dealing with all kinds of different things. They're not

710
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:13,039
going to be standing there to try to stop it all.

711
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: All I will say was this what I thoroughly enjoyed.

712
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:20,319
Because we don't get this, We rarely get this. I

713
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,160
thoroughly enjoyed that those guys after the fight were nothing

714
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,079
but class towards each other. After such a battle, it

715
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,200
made me want a second fight more. After the battle

716
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,240
that they put on the bombs, they landed great fight,

717
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:38,680
and then they were giving credit to each other after

718
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,799
the fight. You're tainting that a few months later.

719
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: We also don't need that to sell the fight. The

720
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:47,480
fist fight speaks for itself in this action that they produced.

721
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,400
You mentioned the class that they showed, even if they

722
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,920
don't love each other after the fact, the fact that

723
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,160
it was a very successful event, there's still the backdrop

724
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,680
of the fathers and their great battles from the which

725
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,480
had two fights. So you've got a lot of things

726
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:04,559
to sell this event, whether it's tickets, pay per view, whatever.

727
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:05,559
Speaker 3: You want to talk about.

728
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: To make that kind of statement just to piss on

729
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,039
Eddie's reputation again, I'm not gonna. I don't have to

730
00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:13,839
kiss Eddie's ass. And believe me, Eddie and I have

731
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,079
had her ups and downs, but I respect Eddie as

732
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:16,480
a person.

733
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: I respect Eddy as.

734
00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: A promoter, and I don't think he would ever, in

735
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:24,440
any possible way, do anything to prevent the ambulance from

736
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,319
taking a fighter who's been in a tough battle to

737
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:28,480
get medically attain in the.

738
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,559
Speaker 1: South a hogwash.

739
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:32,039
Speaker 3: I don't know thought they say poppycock.

740
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't In Britain they might say poppycock or rubbish, rubbish, rubbish,

741
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:38,359
but doesn't seem to make sense.

742
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: Oh, that was terrible. So that was a real That

743
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:43,559
was just that. That was just stupid. That was ridiculous.

744
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: But they will have the second fight later this year.

745
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:48,200
We're looking forward to that. Watch my segue Rayphael late

746
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,279
on a Sunday evening headed into Monday. We're not going

747
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:52,960
to have a whole lot of other great action, and

748
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,119
I know you're a little grouchy about that. We do

749
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:59,440
have some cards of interest, but there's not enough meat

750
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:03,079
on the bu not enough side dishes on the plate

751
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:07,519
here in the remainder of the year. I think everybody

752
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:08,159
would agree.

753
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think October November, so September is essentially over

754
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,719
in terms of whatever in significant fights are. There's really

755
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,039
nothing next week who that knows Wily then have a

756
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:21,079
preview pod. True, So if you take a look, you've

757
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,679
got the last quarter of the year October November and

758
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,920
December and usually there's some major events. Now it's still

759
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,280
possible that they'll be you know, a card here, a card.

760
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,280
They're added to the schedule and hopefully it'll be something significant.

761
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: You know.

762
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:35,199
Speaker 2: PBC probably will add at least one more show, perhaps

763
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:39,000
Manny Pacya will be back in action. Hopefully Top Rank

764
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,840
will have something to do before the end of the year.

765
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:43,960
So there's still room for things to be added. But

766
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:48,800
the major promoters besides them, You're Queensberry's Matchrooms, Golden Boys.

767
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,280
I mean, their schedules are basically set again. They could

768
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,519
be some additions, but it's pretty pathetic right now. I mean,

769
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:57,320
the biggest event on the calendar for the rest of

770
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,079
the year, and this is a great show, you know,

771
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:01,760
even in a down here and it's been a down

772
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,639
year overall, but for the fourth quarter, this is by

773
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,440
far and away the best in the biggest show. And

774
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:08,400
that's the great card they're doing on November twenty second

775
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,400
in Riad, Saudi Arabia. That is a Ring magazine card

776
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,800
the Turkey is putting on, which is spectacular. David Benavidez

777
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,039
Anthony Yard for the light heavyweight belt, Brian Norman against

778
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:21,079
Devin Haney, for the WBO welterweight title that Brian Norman holds,

779
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,960
the unification fight three belt unification between Jesse Vam Rodriguez

780
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,400
and Puma Martinez, Abdullah Mason against Sam Noaks for the

781
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,559
vacant WBO lightweight title that was stripped when Keishaon Davis

782
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:34,400
failed to make weight for the last fight, and also

783
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,920
a non title fight with the return of Arthur Better

784
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:40,239
BF against Dion Nicholson. You've got a lot of great names,

785
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,760
you got a lot of titles, you got a lot

786
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,159
of important, significant fights. Nobody's cherry picking anybody. These are

787
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:48,000
all every single I mean, put the Better BF fight

788
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:51,480
aside for a minute, but the four main fights Benavide, Is, Norman,

789
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:55,159
Dam and Mason, all four of those guys are match

790
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:57,039
with opponents that absolutely can win the fight.

791
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: And you could make an argument that any of them

792
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,480
could be a main event on a car a pay

793
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:01,840
per view.

794
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: But on another card, you don't think Brian like let's

795
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,199
say Top Rank had a deal with esping, you don't

796
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,280
think Brian Norman Devin Haney would tap would headline in

797
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,280
the ESPM card and no question about it, and say

798
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,199
you don't think that if Eddie was doing a show

799
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:15,559
in the United States, had a three belt unification with

800
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,320
dam Rodriguez and Frando Martinez would headline the show. Of

801
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,920
course it would. So that's a great card. That's the

802
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,440
great outlier though, So if you take that away from

803
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,760
the schedule, I was looking through and I went through

804
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,440
and I called, like the.

805
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: So called biggish fights.

806
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: You have Boots and this on October eleventh against Uzma Lima,

807
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,719
which you know we've already had to.

808
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,039
Speaker 1: Say biggest fights before.

809
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: You said that, Well, I should say names. I guess yes,

810
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:41,960
so we already know my feelings about that. I no

811
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:42,840
need to get into that.

812
00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

813
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 2: PBC has a nice card on October twenty fifth with

814
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,039
their event with Fondora against Keith Thurman, O'shaki Fosser against

815
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:55,280
Stephen Fulton, Jesus Ramos against Shane Moley Junior. They added, Uh, well,

816
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,199
we knew Isaac Lucero the excellent young junior middleweight. They

817
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,559
just added his opponent Roberto Venezuela Jinger. I mean again,

818
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:03,639
PBC does a nice job with those shows. There's nothing

819
00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:06,239
wrong with that's a good card. But again it's it's

820
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,760
not that there's no good fights for the rest of

821
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,760
the year. It's that there's lacking in terms of their

822
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,760
not enough not enough Okay, so you get further that

823
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,039
same night or a little earlier in the day for

824
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:18,079
those of us in the United States, you got Joseph

825
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:21,440
Parker against Fabia Worley. Okay, that's a good heavyweight fight.

826
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:25,400
We just talked about Virtual Artise against ericson Lubin. A

827
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:28,400
tremendous main event. Not so great so much in terms

828
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,440
of the co feature with Scofield against diz Do. I

829
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:34,159
even bother to count Jake Paul Gervonta Davis. It's an

830
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,880
entertainment type thing, but it's not real boxing. Obviously, they've

831
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,119
got their press conferences coming up this week. We'll see

832
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,199
what they talk about as far as if they, you know,

833
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,480
stipulate what their actual rules are going to be. They're

834
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,599
supposed to announce some of the undercard fights. I'll say

835
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,119
this about MVP. Whatever you think about the outlandish nature

836
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,639
of the main event, one thing the MVP has done

837
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,280
is when they put on these types of shows, they've

838
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,159
done a good job with their undercard. So I'm anxious

839
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,119
to see the types of fights that they've added to that.

840
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,920
You know, we got Chris Hubank and Connor ben in

841
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,079
the rematch in November. I mentioned the big November card

842
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:07,639
with Benavide's and then from the rest of the year

843
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,760
again hopefully some other stuff will get added, you know,

844
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,639
mostly Thomas supposed to be back in action on December thirteen.

845
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,679
Speaker 3: Still no opponent yet.

846
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,199
Speaker 2: Frank Warren says he quote unquote will be a top

847
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,800
ten guy, but top ten guys, you know, it depends

848
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,000
on what you use as your top ten the type

849
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:23,079
of opponent they can get for him. And then the

850
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:24,760
other card that we talked about in the last show

851
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,079
that was annouced a few days ago, the Night of

852
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:31,400
the Samurai, which is the Japanese guys against fighters from

853
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,840
the rest of the world. That's in a way against Picasso,

854
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,039
but in a way it was going to be like

855
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:37,960
a twenty to one favorite in that fight. Will Lebaldo

856
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:42,280
Garcia against Taraji in that title defense, Nakatani in a

857
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,400
non title fight, but moving up to infiltrate the same.

858
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: Way class that NOI in a way is already in.

859
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: Again, that's a good card, but I don't think that's

860
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,480
like a all time spectacular card. And so but even

861
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:55,599
if you love all those fights. That's not that much

862
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:59,360
activity for the final quarter of the year. So obviously

863
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:01,000
look at that, and I'm like, man, you know.

864
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: But I mean, part of this we talked about it already.

865
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,400
We're gonna we're not gonna go over this because there's

866
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,400
not anything new. Top rank doesn't have shows right now.

867
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:11,239
They're out of side, out of mind, PBC not nearly

868
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:16,119
frequent enough. They're fighting basically once a quarter, so they

869
00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:18,280
have slowed greatly and that's the reason why there's just

870
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,239
not a whole lot there.

871
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,639
Speaker 3: And they are anyway, so and again it's not done yet.

872
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 2: But but everything I hear, you're gonna probably hear about

873
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,159
an event that good chance you'll see Lamont roach against

874
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,000
Pitt Bull Cruise, good fight we'll see or it comes

875
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:36,079
to pass. But again it doesn't. There's not a lot.

876
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna get it before Christmas.

877
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're supposed to get that maybe like

878
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,320
November ish, all right, But the point I'm making though, again,

879
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,199
it's not that the fights that are on the calendar

880
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,199
are bad. It's just there's not enough of enough depth

881
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,519
of them other than that one card in November.

882
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: With that thought you were gonna say it, and you

883
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,639
didn't say it. Do you want me to say it?

884
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:58,760
With the schedule? What are we doing here with the schedule?

885
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,639
Let's get some more activity, Let's get some fighters in

886
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:02,840
the ring here.

887
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 2: On this Yeah, because we're gonna go through the whole

888
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,800
calendar year. Fury's not gonna have fought. You can believe

889
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,440
if he's retired or not, obviously because of the injury

890
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:13,679
and the knockout loss. Anthony Joshua will go through this

891
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,320
whole year will not have had a fight. And those

892
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,039
are two of the biggest names in boxing, and those

893
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:20,880
are huge events when they get in the ring, so

894
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,159
they're not they're not gonna be too active obviously. So

895
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,039
you know, it's just I look at it and I

896
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:27,639
compare it to like a lot of other years where

897
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:29,559
you know, there's a lot of stuff that goes on

898
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:32,039
in that fourth quarter and this is not that type

899
00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:33,920
of year. And it's sort of like a year where

900
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:39,280
it is a disappointment because the rest of twenty twenty

901
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,639
five has been a little bit substandard. Even like Alexander Usak,

902
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:44,719
he's the heavyweight champion of the world, only one fight

903
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,119
this year.

904
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,639
Speaker 1: You know, it's a great well at least, we have

905
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,239
some things going on. We'll get creative though with our

906
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,760
pod and also on the YouTube page. Be locked in

907
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,159
there as well with some different stuff that we're gonna

908
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,639
be doing and trying. And thank you to everybody engaging

909
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,480
on YouTube. Go hit subscribe comment on the videos that

910
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:08,440
helps everything there. Other than that, I think we are

911
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:12,920
good here off the weekend, and again, as you said,

912
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:14,920
we don't really have a whole lot this weekend, but

913
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,920
we'll get creative. We'll get creative either with a preview

914
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,159
end or a recap pod on this week We do

915
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,639
our best to service the savages. Give you something, give

916
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,920
you something here on the podcast feed. Anything else inclosing

917
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,480
here or are we good Dan for another weekend?

918
00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: I think we're good for another weekend.

919
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:32,679
Speaker 1: I think we all.

920
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,599
Speaker 3: I'm so pissed off about that stoppage.

921
00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, yes, but it happened, and as

922
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,280
you mentioned, the Filipino fighter is probably never really going

923
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,920
to be heard from on the big stage. Again, that's

924
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,760
the sad part on a fight that he was not

925
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:48,400
severely damaged or hurt at the time if they stopped me,

926
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:52,440
but go figure unexpected. As always there in boxing, it

927
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,960
seems like it. With that, Dan, have a good week.

928
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:58,920
Thank you my friend. There is Big Dan Rayfield. Fight

929
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,119
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930
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:03,760
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931
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,320
With that, we come your way most of the time,

932
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,440
previewing going into the weekend Thursday and Friday, recapping coming

933
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:12,480
off the weekend Sunday and a Monday. You've been listening

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