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<v Speaker 2>So I'm digging here to see if there's any added

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<v Speaker 2>details to this mess with George Mason basketball. And you

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<v Speaker 2>may be wondering why the hell we're talking about George

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<v Speaker 2>Mason basketball, and it's because they have found themselves in

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<v Speaker 2>a fire festival type situation. So they showed up to

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<v Speaker 2>the airport today to fly to the Bahamas for a

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<v Speaker 2>trip similar to the trip that Louisville just went on,

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<v Speaker 2>where they went to the Bahamas for about five six days,

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<v Speaker 2>played two games, and by even taking this trip, that

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<v Speaker 2>allowed for ten extra practices, which is super beneficial. These

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<v Speaker 2>trips are very common. In fact, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people didn't realize how common they are because around

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<v Speaker 2>here Louisville hadn't gone on one since Rick Patino was

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<v Speaker 2>here in twenty fifteen, so it's been a while. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the group, it's called V. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>called V two or V. I can't tell. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>just go to their website, although it's probably yeah, revived

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<v Speaker 2>by the V group is the company that put this

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<v Speaker 2>thing together. And I don't even know how you would

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<v Speaker 2>describe like what this company is as far are they

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<v Speaker 2>are they marketing? Are they? I mean, I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But for example, when Louisville went to the OAS and

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<v Speaker 2>they went to the Bahamar of the Bahamaer resort last week,

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<v Speaker 2>and when they went to the Bahamar tournament in the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two season when they won despite that being

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<v Speaker 2>a really bad year, there's a yeah, there's a he's

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<v Speaker 2>found the company because they're they're they're legit, They're not

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's the b D Group. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're actually locally they're locally owned. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>a I guess a promotional promoter, event planner type company

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<v Speaker 2>and they've done it for a long time, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know they're good partners. Louisville and other local schools

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<v Speaker 2>have been a part of events that they've done. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's called BDG Sports. Well, I guess the company similar

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<v Speaker 2>to that is the one that I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say they scammed them, but some I mean they dropped

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, and that's probably putting it lightly. So this

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<v Speaker 2>team showed up thinking they're going on a trip to

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<v Speaker 2>the Bahamas to play a couple of games, just like

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<v Speaker 2>you know Louisville did last week, and they find out

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<v Speaker 2>that like there's no there's no flights planned, there's no booked,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's all not happening. So Jeff Goodman is the

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<v Speaker 2>latest that I've seen that has some added details here.

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<v Speaker 2>He says that the organizer of the George Mason trip

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<v Speaker 2>to Bahamas, his name is Chris Williams, and he told

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<v Speaker 2>the field of sixty eighth that he takes full responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>for the cancelation of the trip. He said of the

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<v Speaker 2>company he outsourced the flights, never booked them, but the

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<v Speaker 2>hotels and games were booked and scheduled, but because of

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<v Speaker 2>the flights, everything had to be canceled. He also went

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<v Speaker 2>on to say that there is no truth to them

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<v Speaker 2>finding out last minute, so he's kind of claiming that, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this actually wasn't as big of you know, they were

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<v Speaker 2>notified I guess beforehand to where, but there was no

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I have a hard time believing that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I guess we'll probably never know the uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the exact details here. But my guess would

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<v Speaker 2>be is that they had everything planned so they thought,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning like we've got are flights arranged, although again, if

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<v Speaker 2>they've never been booked, then you don't have an itinerary.

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<v Speaker 2>And who would think that you were going on this

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<v Speaker 2>trip if you haven't received any travel details as far

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<v Speaker 2>as your flight time and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, there's a lot of unanswered questions that probably

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<v Speaker 2>will never get the answer to it. Honestly, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. But for me, like, I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how it could get to this point where you

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<v Speaker 2>don't even announce it, Like I don't think George Mason

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<v Speaker 2>said anything until like earlier today that like, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not happening. My guess would be that they were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to scramble and see if they could find arrangements to

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<v Speaker 2>arrive in the Bahamas. But that's not easy to do

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<v Speaker 2>when you're taking an entire basketball program, probably a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of staffers from your athletic department, and then I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they probably have some doubts if the other teams are

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<v Speaker 2>even there to play. Like that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that eventually it'll come out, right, Like is this guy

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<v Speaker 2>legit saying that the issue is all on the company

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<v Speaker 2>he outsourced to book the flights or did he just

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<v Speaker 2>like completely scam people, Because you got to keep in

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<v Speaker 2>mind they paid money for this, like the program, the university,

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<v Speaker 2>George Mason paid money for this. Like there's no you

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<v Speaker 2>don't do this free. And the middleman is this promotional company,

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<v Speaker 2>this event planning company, promoter that that does all the

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<v Speaker 2>work and they don't do it for free. That's their business, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So Like, I don't know if he's gonna get give

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<v Speaker 2>have to give money. I'm sure he's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>give money back. But again, this is probably something that

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<v Speaker 2>not a lot of people really care about. But I

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<v Speaker 2>have a feeling that this is that there's that one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that will make this guy either look

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<v Speaker 2>like it was just a common or it was just

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<v Speaker 2>a complete goof by the company he outsourced the book

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<v Speaker 2>the flights, Like that'll be pretty easy to determine if,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, you later find out that they did have

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<v Speaker 2>arrange they did have arrangements at the resort in the Bahamas,

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<v Speaker 2>and they also had teams there to play. And the

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<v Speaker 2>only dropping of the ball is that the flights weren't booked.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that that still sucks, and you're still responsible because

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<v Speaker 2>you outsourced a company that apparently dropped the ball. But

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<v Speaker 2>like that's a whole different situation than like everybody thought

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<v Speaker 2>this was real and it wasn't anything at all what

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<v Speaker 2>you claim to be. Similar to the fire festival that

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<v Speaker 2>took place many years ago that I'm sure a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of you are familiar with. But to know that some

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<v Speaker 2>athletic department folks from George Mason and Boosters alumni, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they apparently had a group of like thirty alumn from

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<v Speaker 2>you know, probably around the area where George Mason is

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe out elsewhere in the country. Because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't always end up living and starting your career

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<v Speaker 2>in your life where you went to college. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is probably not a normal thing where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>George Mason's a pretty small school. What are they in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the Atlantic ten? I guess they're in the

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<v Speaker 2>Atlantic ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know, John sounds correct? Or are they in

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<v Speaker 3>the CAA or I was thinking the Colonial which is

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<v Speaker 3>no longer called the COS the Coastal Athletic comp Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Colonial offensive for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, they're in Uh George Mason is in the

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<v Speaker 2>A ten. Okay, I would have never guessed that. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>well let me do it. Let me double check here,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're one of those school Yeah, they are in

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<v Speaker 2>the A ten. Because there's some schools that are in

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<v Speaker 2>multiple different commerces depending on the sport. Right, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>they're in the Atlantic ten for for primary sports, which

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<v Speaker 2>is basketball, volleyball, but they're also in like the Mid

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<v Speaker 2>American for wrestling in soccer. It looks like so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are, I mean, this is this just sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine being an alum who went to George Mason that

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<v Speaker 2>is located in Fairfax, Virginia, and you now live, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, in Buffalo, New York, and you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>an accountant or something, and you're like, Wow, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really excited about the future of our basketball program. They're

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<v Speaker 2>going on this Bahamas trip. I want to go. Who

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want to go to the Bahamas and spend a

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<v Speaker 2>week on vacation and oh, by the way, I get

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<v Speaker 2>to watch the Patriots play my team. And then you're

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<v Speaker 2>there waiting for them to arrive, only to find out

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<v Speaker 2>that none of it's real. Like this could be a

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this could be a really cool documentary. To

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, I mean, I guess it would

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<v Speaker 2>be sort of similar to what you see at the

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<v Speaker 2>fire festival. But I would love to be for somebody

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<v Speaker 2>to get feedback from those that are already there waiting,

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<v Speaker 2>like did you show up and realize, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no promotional stuff. There's nothing here that indicates they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to play basketball at this Bahamas resort, Like are

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<v Speaker 2>we at the right place?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I just I would have loved to

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<v Speaker 2>have been a fly on the wall as George Mason

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<v Speaker 2>officials slowly and surely started to realize we might have

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<v Speaker 2>got dooped, we might have got scammed. Now, for what

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth, this isn't just some random company. They have

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<v Speaker 2>put on events before that that have been you know, successful,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning where they've not been canceled. So yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is a statement from the actual promoter company that

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<v Speaker 2>you know dropped the ball. Here we deep with deep regret,

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<v Speaker 2>we announce the cancelation of the George Mason men's basketball

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<v Speaker 2>team toward of the Bahamas this summer. We take full

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<v Speaker 2>accountability for this outcome and understand the impact on all involved.

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<v Speaker 2>We sincerely apologize. Full statement uh incoming shortly And they

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<v Speaker 2>turned off comments as you as you could expect, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know what would be the point

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<v Speaker 2>of turn off comments to that. I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>to keep people from spewing their thoughts that are probably

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<v Speaker 2>legit that you know that's a big, big issue for

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<v Speaker 2>you as a company, But they can still quote tweet it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like one of the things I don't understand about turning

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<v Speaker 2>off comments. You ever notice that, John, Yeah, I do

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<v Speaker 2>know that's a thing because people are more inclined to

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<v Speaker 2>quote tweet you if they really want to share with

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<v Speaker 2>their followers that they're dunking on you.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like quote treating it or quote tweeting,

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<v Speaker 3>I should say, is is more kind of more of

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<v Speaker 2>Than yeah simple reply. Yeah, yeah, it's true because I

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<v Speaker 2>responses when people reply, but people got to go digging

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<v Speaker 2>for that. If I'm following somebody and they're quote tweeting it,

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<v Speaker 2>All right, is Coffee and Company again where Phil Beth

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<v Speaker 2>Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety towards the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the show yesterday. It was actually exciting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we've had a few instances where we were watching a

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<v Speaker 2>game live while on the air, John, That's right. One

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<v Speaker 2>was the Indiana Louisville game where that damn Mike Woodson

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<v Speaker 2>tricked Kenny Payne. Remember that?

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<v Speaker 3>What a what a con man?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you tricked me by going to his zone and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd forgotten that. Louell, Well, if you remember we were

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<v Speaker 2>that game. They were up like eight with like four

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<v Speaker 2>minutes left. Do you remember that.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember it being closed?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we were sweating more than a little Louisville. Yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what it was. That's when it hit me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, the day before, Louisville nearly beat Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>which would have been a big win for them, and

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<v Speaker 2>they played well and nobody knew what to do because

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, and again, I can say this now,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I'm pretty sure I said it then

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<v Speaker 2>my thoughts about Louisville basketball in that era. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we all know that, but I remember thinking to myself

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<v Speaker 2>like that said that, that's a bad look for you,

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<v Speaker 2>Guinea Payne, Like how can you lose to Kentucky Wesley

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<v Speaker 2>and then play Kansas or play Texas that close? Like

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<v Speaker 2>you're a bum? That's what I thought. I'm sure I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say those exact words, but it also hit me

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<v Speaker 2>in real time. I was doing the show from home

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<v Speaker 2>because we were going to be doing the postgame show later,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, into the evening, and I remember thinking like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is how bad we are. John is just

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<v Speaker 2>like trying to avoid the ultimate andmbarrassment. Then Indiana basketball

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<v Speaker 2>would go through if they lose to Louisville, which is true,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it would have been really embarrassing, right, because that probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Would have been Kenny Payne's marquee win up to that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely would have been. There's no other win he

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<v Speaker 4>Something.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe Miami, but again.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you remember, Miami sucked, they didn't be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the worst teams in the ACC. That was his

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<v Speaker 2>only road Winkay. Yeah, but like no, I mean Kenny

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<v Speaker 2>Payne's best win was a Clemson team in his first

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<v Speaker 2>year that won didn't make the tournament that year despite

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<v Speaker 2>having a really good record, And I'm telling you there's

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt in my mind the committee saw them sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like fringe bubble with their metrics and say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they lost to Louisville, there's no way we're letting them in. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>that same night was when they honored the twenty thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>national championship team, which kind of gave you a vibe

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<v Speaker 2>and an aura within the arena that they ain't losing

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<v Speaker 2>that night, you know what I mean. Yes, So, anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>the other game we watched live was the ending of

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<v Speaker 2>the kp Era, which really wasn't exciting. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>we were counting down. Kenny's gonna talk, and we're pretty

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<v Speaker 2>sure this is the last Prescotts he's going to be doing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's hear what he has to say. I don't need

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<v Speaker 2>people jumping off the Titanic. Heavi said that. I still

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<v Speaker 2>cannot believe that he said that. Man, I mean, it's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, yesterday I was watching the end of a

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<v Speaker 2>game and I was on the edge of my seat,

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<v Speaker 2>quite literally, because it looked as if Team you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I started the hour looking at the score and I

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<v Speaker 2>just couldn't imagine seeing Team US, say, down nearly twenty points.

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<v Speaker 2>So my eyeballs tricked me and I couldn't see for

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<v Speaker 2>what it really was. So I looked and just assumed, well,

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<v Speaker 2>with that big of a that big of elite, it's

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<v Speaker 2>surely going to be the United States team that's winning,

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<v Speaker 2>not not Serbia. And I was wrong. So then I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up pulling it up on YouTube TV here in

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<v Speaker 2>my second monitor, watching as they're down seventeen eighteen points

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<v Speaker 2>and slowly but surely they're coming back, and they pulled

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<v Speaker 2>off a really impressive come from behind victory, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the expectation, right The United States men's basketball team always

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<v Speaker 2>is expected to win the Golden Great and more often

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<v Speaker 2>than not, I mean, in fact, nearly almost every Olympics

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been alive, that's exactly what's happened. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was a rare situation that you don't want to be in,

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<v Speaker 2>but it led to you being able to watch and

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<v Speaker 2>consume the Olympics with our men's basketball team in a

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<v Speaker 2>different situation that you probably will not see very often,

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<v Speaker 2>where they have to really claw from behind, make big plays.

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<v Speaker 2>The best players of my lifetime out there, Lebron James,

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry, Kevin Durant. I mean, obviously those aren't all

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<v Speaker 2>the great players, but we're talking about the elite of

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<v Speaker 2>the elite, and they all came up big, dwell and

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<v Speaker 2>be played well down the stretch, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>it was fun to watch that. So, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hoping they can get by France and win the gold

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's it's the expectation, it's what you want,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's what they're going to do. But

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday was kind of cool. But one thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>did notice that I'm sure everybody else's noticed too, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's become a big story, is Steve Kerr just refusing

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<v Speaker 2>to play Jason Tatum. So Jason Tatum can't get off

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<v Speaker 2>the bench with Steve Kerr. And I'm not a Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Tatum fan. In fact, I don't really care for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I shouldn't say that I dislike him because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know him and he doesn't do anything to me.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just kind of cringe. He's uncomfortable in the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's a super talented player, one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>players in the NBA, fresh off of an NBA title,

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<v Speaker 2>his first for Boston and Jaylen Brown was sensational in

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<v Speaker 2>the postseason. Let's be real, Jason Tatum is their franchise player,

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<v Speaker 2>and he is. I mean, he's one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>players on this planet. Three time All NBA First Team

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's special. That doesn't mean he should play

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<v Speaker 2>every second, doesn't mean he has to start. But let's

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<v Speaker 2>not act like it is not insanely unusual for him

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<v Speaker 2>to not be able to get in the game. And

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kerr, if you remember, in the exhibition games prior

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<v Speaker 2>to the Olympics, did the same thing, and he claimed

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<v Speaker 2>he forgot I forgot I forgot to put him in

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<v Speaker 2>and I think he could get away with saying that

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<v Speaker 2>because they were probably beaten somebody about fifty and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a tight situation they were having to try

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<v Speaker 2>to come back. But to me, it's hard to not

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<v Speaker 2>see this as something personal. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what it would be. I mean, obviously, Steve Kerr, his

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<v Speaker 2>last championship, probably the last one he's gonna win, came

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<v Speaker 2>against the Celtics whenever they won a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't get it. Here's what he said though

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday quote It's not about anything Jason is doing or

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<v Speaker 2>not doing. It's just about combinations and the way that

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that group has played together, the way

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin has filled in since he came back from his injury.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a math problem more than anything. I give

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kerr a little bit of, you know, the benefit

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<v Speaker 2>of the doubt here, because if you're playing for the

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<v Speaker 2>United States and you are in the Olympics, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be on a team that has some of the best players. Sometimes. Ever,

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<v Speaker 2>like I mean, I don't want to get into the

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<v Speaker 2>whole dream team from ninety two debate compared to this one,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's just silly. It's two different eras and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a nonsensical conversation. But this group here, I look

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<v Speaker 2>at this group on paper up the bottom, maybe outside

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<v Speaker 2>of Derek White and my pacer Tyrese Haliburton, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not ready to throw Booker up there yet. But other

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<v Speaker 2>than that, these are some of the best players that

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<v Speaker 2>you know in the modern NBA in the last I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, five six, seven years. I mean, Drew Holliday.

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<v Speaker 2>Some would say he doesn't belong just because he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have that big of a brand, but yet look at

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<v Speaker 2>what he's accomplished. I mean, he's sensational. So it's one.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's true that you can't play everybody the

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<v Speaker 2>same amount of minutes, and it's gonna be hard to

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<v Speaker 2>get good lineups with great rhythm whenever the majority of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys on your team are used to being the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you bring in a guy like Derek White.

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<v Speaker 2>Derek White's not even close to as accomplished or as

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<v Speaker 2>talented as the rest of the guys on this team,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's a perfect role player to replace Kawhi Leonard.

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<v Speaker 2>So like I hear you, if I'm when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to Steve Kurr just kind of saying, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't play everybody. It's about how guys are jelling.

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<v Speaker 2>But Jason Tatum isn't some random guy. He's a guy that,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, is in the conversation as one of

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<v Speaker 2>the top four or five players in the NBA. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's just hard for anybody to believe that this is

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<v Speaker 2>just well, what are you gonna do? You can only

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<v Speaker 2>play five guys and we've got so much talent now,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is just this is just off. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can't say I feel sorry for Jason Tatum because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing all right. He'll be okay. He just signed

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<v Speaker 2>a deal that I'm pretty sure made him the highest

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<v Speaker 2>paid player in the NBA fresh off a championship. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing fine. I'm not I'm not losing sleep at

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<v Speaker 2>night for him. But he has gone through embarrassment that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think is fair to him. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some people will say, well, hey, it doesn't matter, you

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<v Speaker 2>do what your coach asks. You're representing Team USA like

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<v Speaker 2>we're at war or something, and that's not I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what this is. But he's he's become a

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<v Speaker 2>storyline because this coach who coaches the Warriors refuses to

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<v Speaker 2>play him and sorry, like, you can't tell me that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't give Tatum a run when you take out

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Edwards, when you take out Devin Booker, when you

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<v Speaker 2>take out Derek White, like it, it's just off now. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there's something to be said that he does have

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<v Speaker 2>so much respect for Tatum as a star player that

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<v Speaker 2>if he knows he's only going to give him a

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes here and there to kind of be that

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<v Speaker 2>guy to give somebody a break. Maybe he knows that's

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<v Speaker 2>beneath him and doesn't want to put him through that.

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<v Speaker 2>That I could actually understand. But the way he's gone

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<v Speaker 2>about describing it and explaining it it's just not is

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make a lot of sense. I mean, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>other NBA players saying the same thing, like this just

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<v Speaker 2>just this, something's up here. This ain't this isn't this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't right. This doesn't make any sense. Bob Coosey's old

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<v Speaker 2>ass is now getting involved, and you know, talking bad

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<v Speaker 2>about Steve Kerr and Steve Kerr I don't I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>say I dislike him, I just you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a big fan, And I've always questioned how good of

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<v Speaker 2>a coach he actually is because look at who he

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<v Speaker 2>God never coached a second in his life. He left

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<v Speaker 2>the broadcast booth to go coach Steph Curry and Klay

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<v Speaker 2>Thompson in their prime, two guys that, honestly you could

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<v Speaker 2>make the case that are two of the best shooters

416
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<v Speaker 2>of all time, and they played for the same team

417
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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, like and Andre Igudala, by the way,

418
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<v Speaker 2>that time, was in his prime a really good player,

419
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<v Speaker 2>and Kerr had nothing to do with putting that team together.

420
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<v Speaker 2>That's all Rob Parker, not Rob Parker. That's the uh,

421
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<v Speaker 2>that's the Guy's the name, Bob Myers. I want to

422
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<v Speaker 2>say Rob Parker. He's a He's a host that you

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<v Speaker 2>hear on Fox Sports Radio at night with Chris Bussard.

424
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<v Speaker 2>So like, I don't know if I would have the

425
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<v Speaker 2>same record as a coach if I was the guy

426
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<v Speaker 2>coaching the Warriors instead of Steve Kerr, because I would

427
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<v Speaker 2>not be that big of an idiot to say that

428
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<v Speaker 2>I'm a better coach than Steve Kerr or as good

429
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<v Speaker 2>of a coach, because look at his accomplishments in the

430
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<v Speaker 2>world of basketball compared to mine. But I'm not I'm

431
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<v Speaker 2>not afraid to sound like an idiot when I say this,

432
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<v Speaker 2>because I know I sound like it. I could win

433
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<v Speaker 2>with that team, you give me that in a seven

434
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<v Speaker 2>game series against anybody when they were in their prime.

435
00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:07.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm winning a title as the coach I am, especially

436
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<v Speaker 2>when you had Kevin Durant. I mean, so that's not

437
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<v Speaker 2>his fault, right, he can only coach who's on the team.

438
00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Like he didn't anything wrong. But like, I just think

439
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<v Speaker 2>in the end, this has actually not been a good

440
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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kurerr is probably gonna win a gold medal, but

441
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's been a good look for

442
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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kerr. All right, quick break, we'll come back on

443
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<v Speaker 2>the other side. Let you hear about Dion Sanders continuing

444
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<v Speaker 2>to just be a complete fool, and I'm here for

445
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<v Speaker 2>it right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. I don't

446
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<v Speaker 2>know whether this song.

447
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<v Speaker 3>Is Do you want the title and you can guess

448
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<v Speaker 3>the artist? Yeah, the song is called It's true.

449
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna guess it's Factory Boys.

450
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<v Speaker 3>This is the best boy?

451
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<v Speaker 2>But who which again? If you're just wondering while we're

452
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<v Speaker 2>playing in sync in the Backstree Boys. There was a

453
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<v Speaker 2>story that I referenced her earlier about how n syncs

454
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<v Speaker 2>Bye Bye Bye song, which of course is a huge

455
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<v Speaker 2>hit of theirs, is now back in the top twenty

456
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<v Speaker 2>of the charts because it's been featured in a Marvel

457
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<v Speaker 2>movie trailer. So the n SYNC Backstreet Boys era like

458
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<v Speaker 2>it was, I mean, you couldn't find I mean, they

459
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<v Speaker 2>were all over TV radio and at that point, the

460
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<v Speaker 2>Internet really hadn't taken off to where like they were

461
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<v Speaker 2>such a big deal. Regardless of your age, you knew

462
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<v Speaker 2>who they were. You could probably recite every word to

463
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<v Speaker 2>their songs even if you didn't want to. But they

464
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<v Speaker 2>were just in your face, in your ears at all times.

465
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<v Speaker 2>And I challenged myself to see if I could, if

466
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<v Speaker 2>I could have John play songs from their deep cuts

467
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<v Speaker 2>and figure out which one is which. And I got

468
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<v Speaker 2>that one right. But it was more so because I

469
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<v Speaker 2>could just tell it didn't sound much like n SYNC,

470
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<v Speaker 2>but with the singers like Justin Timberlake and that guy

471
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<v Speaker 2>named jac I feel like we're the guys who you

472
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<v Speaker 2>mostly heard through n SYNC.

473
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Justin Timberlake's voice is instantly recognized.

474
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<v Speaker 2>It sure, although at times, I feel like the JC

475
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<v Speaker 2>guy was like, you know, a better singer on certain songs,

476
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<v Speaker 2>Like he has a Christmas song where I'm like, Okay,

477
00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:06.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe j T should have taken a back seat more

478
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<v Speaker 2>often because my man J C. Chavez is just killing

479
00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:12.960
<v Speaker 2>it and putting me in the Christmas spirit. Now, the

480
00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Backstreet Boys, Nick Carter I feel like was the face

481
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<v Speaker 2>of the of BSB, but I don't even know who'd be.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Like a second, there's two dudes from did you know

483
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<v Speaker 2>two of them are from Kentucky?

484
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<v Speaker 3>I did not know that.

485
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Brian and uh I think his name is Brian Latrelle.

486
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<v Speaker 2>And then there's the there's Kevin from the Backstreet Boys

487
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<v Speaker 2>and he is a diehard UK fan from Lexington. He's

488
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<v Speaker 2>actually been on Matt's show a bunch of times, and

489
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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to talk about Backstree Boy stuff. He

490
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<v Speaker 2>wants to talk about the Cats. He's like a big fan.

491
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<v Speaker 2>But by the way, there's a there's a documentary on

492
00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:51.079
<v Speaker 2>he's on Hulu of Nick Carter and his brother, and like,

493
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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't paint Nick Carter in a very good light

494
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<v Speaker 2>as far as some things he's been accused of. But

495
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<v Speaker 2>if I remember correctly. I think the Backstreet Boys, like

496
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<v Speaker 2>they were all not close to the same age. Maybe

497
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<v Speaker 2>I'm wrong here, Like so Aj McClain he's forty six,

498
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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Richardson fifty two, Nick Carter forty four, Howie, I

499
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<v Speaker 2>don't even remember that guy, he's fifty. And then who's

500
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<v Speaker 2>the other one, Brian Latrell, He's forty nine, So like

501
00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:27.960
<v Speaker 2>there's an eight year difference between two of them. And

502
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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like that when they were at their peak,

503
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<v Speaker 2>you would have never guessed that. You would have all

504
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<v Speaker 2>thought they were like kind of the same age, you

505
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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

506
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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like actors that play high school characters

507
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<v Speaker 3>really like in their early twenties.

508
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<v Speaker 2>There are man, that's funny. There are some great there's

509
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<v Speaker 2>some great TikTok videos, reels, whatever. You I think I

510
00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:51.599
<v Speaker 2>might have saw it on an Instagram reel one time

511
00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:55.319
<v Speaker 2>where somebody put together like a montage from movies and

512
00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:59.079
<v Speaker 2>shows mostly in the eighties and nineties of people playing

513
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<v Speaker 2>like sixteen year old kids and they looked like they

514
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<v Speaker 2>were forty with a mortgage and five kids. Like it

515
00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:08.759
<v Speaker 2>was crazy. I mean, honestly saved by the Bell cast

516
00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:12.440
<v Speaker 2>like that jump. But I will say this in their defense,

517
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>they were older than the age they were portrayed to

518
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<v Speaker 2>be in some of those shows and movies. But I

519
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<v Speaker 2>feel like people that were like eighteen nineteen back in

520
00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:23.400
<v Speaker 2>back in the eighties looked like they were fifty.

521
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<v Speaker 3>They did, you know what I mean, the hairstyles of

522
00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:27.799
<v Speaker 3>that time. And obviously I didn't grow up, you did

523
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<v Speaker 3>not the eighties with the nineties. Yeah, but for some reason,

524
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<v Speaker 3>the big poofy hair makes people look tens.

525
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 2>And facial hair in facial hair like go look at

526
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<v Speaker 2>google it right now. John Richie Farmer Kentucky basketball mustache.

527
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<v Speaker 2>Now again it's the facial hair that really does it

528
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:47.880
<v Speaker 2>for him. But Richie Farmer looked like he was playing

529
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<v Speaker 2>for Kentucky in in the you know, the early nineties

530
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>or late eighties, whatever it was. It looked as if

531
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<v Speaker 2>he was out there as a fifty five year old

532
00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:00.160
<v Speaker 2>diehard Kentucky fan. They just got a chance to play

533
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:02.200
<v Speaker 2>on the team with that mustache, like he looks like

534
00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:04.119
<v Speaker 2>he was he was suiting up and playing for Rick

535
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Patino and then going home, you know, to take care

536
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.359
<v Speaker 2>of his high school children. Like that's what he looked like. Again,

537
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.880
<v Speaker 2>it's mostly just the facial hair, right, yes, but like

538
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:13.440
<v Speaker 2>if you go back and look at like not that

539
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.680
<v Speaker 2>anybody would ever do it, but go watch like randomly

540
00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:19.079
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighty nine Final four if you can find it,

541
00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:22.279
<v Speaker 2>and tell me those guys playing who were college kids

542
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>don't look thirty years older than the guys that are

543
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:27.400
<v Speaker 2>playing right now in college that are actually the same age.

544
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<v Speaker 2>It's a phenomenon.

545
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Did you grow up in the era of the soul patch?

546
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<v Speaker 2>Like, meaning like when I like, was it popular when

547
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:37.519
<v Speaker 2>you were in high school? Oh? No, no, okay, I

548
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:38.920
<v Speaker 2>mean I feel like I'd have to be a lot older,

549
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't I.

550
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<v Speaker 3>I just don't know what the For some reason, I

551
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<v Speaker 3>equate it to being do you know what I'm talking about?

552
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:43.519
<v Speaker 1>The soul patch?

553
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<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what a soul patch is, but I

554
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<v Speaker 2>don't ever remember being a thing with like kids.

555
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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, okay, I guess maybe it's more of an

556
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:51.960
<v Speaker 3>adult thing. Yeah, I mean second, because if that was

557
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<v Speaker 3>like a high school and that that's kind of weird too, I.

558
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<v Speaker 2>Feel, And honestly, there weren't many, Listen, I'm just not

559
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<v Speaker 2>remembering correctly. I don't remember a lot of kids that

560
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I grew up with being able to pull off Like

561
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.839
<v Speaker 2>there was one kid who we went to school with

562
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>that all throughout me knowing him, like even in middle school.

563
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.039
<v Speaker 2>He could grow a full beard. But like nobody else could,

564
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:13.400
<v Speaker 2>at least not that I can really remember. We'd get like,

565
00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:16.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, like for me, I can only if I

566
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.720
<v Speaker 2>wanted to, like have something, I could do a mustache,

567
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 2>but it would never be thick and it would look gross.

568
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 2>It would look like I'm just you know, non farm

569
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.759
<v Speaker 2>not we are not well groomed. But one thing I

570
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:30.039
<v Speaker 2>could pull off, not that I would want to, I

571
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:32.799
<v Speaker 2>could pull off a soul patch. I mean meaning I

572
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:34.440
<v Speaker 2>could grow one. I don't when I say pull it off,

573
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I know it would probably look disgusting, but uh yeah,

574
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>there was a there was a time where it wasn't

575
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<v Speaker 2>that uncommon to see somebody completely bald, nothing but the

576
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:45.240
<v Speaker 2>soul patch.

577
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:47.440
<v Speaker 3>I think that Chris Dawtrey was in that category.

578
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that I can't visualize it, but I think

579
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>that sounds right. I think it sounds right.

580
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's got it if you look at it. All

581
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:56.559
<v Speaker 3>if you do is search Chris Dawtry soul patch and

582
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 3>it's there.

583
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<v Speaker 2>You could, like you could have a full grizzly Adam's beard,

584
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:02.559
<v Speaker 2>couldn't you. Yeah, it would take a while.

585
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.599
<v Speaker 3>And I'm the kind of person who and I've learned

586
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 3>this because I've let it grow out before. I don't

587
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.200
<v Speaker 3>like it when it gets real bushy and kind of

588
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:10.480
<v Speaker 3>takes over the face, you know.

589
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like right now, I feel like the

590
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.799
<v Speaker 2>hair on your face is thicker than like, like not longer,

591
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 2>but like, I feel like you've got a good balance

592
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:18.759
<v Speaker 2>now where the hair on your head and the hair

593
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:20.680
<v Speaker 2>on your Maybe it's just the camera I'm looking at,

594
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like your beard's got a pretty good

595
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 2>base to it right now.

596
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd like to trim it up pretty soon though,

597
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:27.920
<v Speaker 3>because it's goods. I hate it. This is going to

598
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:30.279
<v Speaker 3>sound gross, but like whenever you can kind of feel

599
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 3>the food in your.

600
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Girl, yeah, I mean I can't relate, but I can

601
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:36.519
<v Speaker 2>see that. I can see that feeling very gross. I

602
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 2>really could, all right, So, like Dion Sanders, part of

603
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.720
<v Speaker 2>me says, if they continue to be irrelevant and suck,

604
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 2>and there's more and more stories coming out about how

605
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 2>dysfunctional things are at Colorado. I mean, there was a

606
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 2>pretty salacious article put together by I think it was

607
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Mike Farrell yesterday or the day before about Colorado, meaning

608
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Speaker 2>some of the some of the allegations have been made

609
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>about just the culture there, and it's not a good look.

610
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Tough to know how legit all of it is. It's

611
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of a he said, she said stuff. But that's

612
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>now the coverage of Colorado And if they don't win,

613
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>and the noise continues to just be this kind of stuff, controversy, arrogance,

614
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 2>entitlement with nothing, with no reason for said entitlement, Like

615
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>will the college football media world continue to give them

616
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>the attention that I don't believe that they're warrant that

617
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>they're worthy of, Like how much longer can the Deon

618
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Sanders stick work if they don't win. There's a part

619
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 2>of me that says it'll die off and like it'll

620
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:42.599
<v Speaker 2>just be a thing where, yeah, that didn't work out,

621
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<v Speaker 2>we're moving on. But then also I give Dean Sanders credit.

622
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<v Speaker 2>He has the ability to move the needle and bring

623
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<v Speaker 2>eyeballs to him and his program whoever he's coaching, whatever

624
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<v Speaker 2>he's doing, unlike anybody else. And I don't really get it,

625
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<v Speaker 2>but I yes, you know, for that he's worthy of

626
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<v Speaker 2>of you know, uh, some some credit because it's just

627
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<v Speaker 2>not you know, it's not it's not something I've ever

628
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<v Speaker 2>seen before. So here's the latest. He had a press conference.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was a media day thing

630
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<v Speaker 2>or if it was after one of their practices, but

631
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:23.720
<v Speaker 2>there was a local reporter there asking a question. Dion

632
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<v Speaker 2>Sanders and Deon Sanders made it made it clear he's

633
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<v Speaker 2>not going to answer any question from this reporter because

634
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<v Speaker 2>of his affiliation with with CBS.

635
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<v Speaker 5>There's the end of that question. I guess next guy.

636
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<v Speaker 1>Eric Kristen said, was CBS Sports Colorado Tyler.

637
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<v Speaker 5>I'm not doing that with CBS. Next question. It's above that.

638
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<v Speaker 5>You got none to do with you. I got love

639
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<v Speaker 5>for you, I appreciate respect you. HA got none to

640
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<v Speaker 5>do with you. They know what they did.

641
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<v Speaker 1>I'm here at Deadver, not National.

642
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<v Speaker 5>You who you are CBS is CBS, all right, I

643
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:06.960
<v Speaker 5>respect you, and that's why I told you that. I'm

644
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:08.839
<v Speaker 5>looking at you and now as a man I respect.

645
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:09.440
<v Speaker 2>With sunglasses on.

646
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:11.039
<v Speaker 5>But what they did was foul.

647
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>So first of all, everybody's acting, everybody's reacting to this

648
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:19.759
<v Speaker 2>like what a clown like who would do that? And

649
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Colorado lets him behave like this, like who Like it's

650
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 2>one thing to do that if you're no matter who

651
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 2>you are, Like that's just disrespectful. Like that guy's there

652
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 2>doing his job. You're acknowledging he didn't do anything to you,

653
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>but you're being a baby and and a diva and

654
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 2>like you're not like you're not serious, dude, like this,

655
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>like you're not serious? Like that was one of the

656
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.599
<v Speaker 2>things that I always I remember hearing a lot when

657
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Dion got the opportunity to make the jump from FCS

658
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:51.480
<v Speaker 2>to Colorado. I remember hearing it and believing it that

659
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's a competitor. He is so driven. He

660
00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:00.799
<v Speaker 2>works his ass off like he's primed. He's flashy. He's

661
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 2>a me guy. But don't let that for you. He'll

662
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:07.519
<v Speaker 2>out work anybody. He's intense, he's you know, look at

663
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>how successful he has been as an athlete. Fair enough,

664
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>but he doesn't carry himself in a serious way at all,

665
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.000
<v Speaker 2>in anyway, and he hasn't since he got to Colorado.

666
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 2>The things he said, and like there's something to be

667
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.240
<v Speaker 2>said about you know, consistency, but you are who you are.

668
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 2>But like who he is, it's clearly different than anybody

669
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 2>else that coaches high level college programs and being different

670
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean you're wrong, You're just different. But if you're

671
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna be that different and have no results to back

672
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>it up as far as success, like you're you're just

673
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>a clown, like you don't like, you're not, you're not,

674
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.799
<v Speaker 2>you don't belong. And maybe this year they'll break through

675
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 2>and have a lot of success, But would anybody be

676
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>shocked if they suck again? I don't think so. So, Like,

677
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>if you're Colorado, what point do you because again you've

678
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:58.240
<v Speaker 2>now got a guy there that it's the prime program,

679
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:02.599
<v Speaker 2>it's not Colorado. And to be fair, what is Colorado

680
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:05.319
<v Speaker 2>known for in college football? Not much? Right what Dan

681
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Lanning say? What they ever do? I mean, like, I

682
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 2>mean he was right, like it it made, you know,

683
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>made people, and be fair, that's probably why Colorado hired

684
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 2>a guy like Dean Sanders right to give them some notoriety,

685
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:21.559
<v Speaker 2>give them some legitimacy, because you know they haven't had

686
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>that and he brings it. But then again, like is

687
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 2>it worth it now that he's been there over a

688
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 2>year and you haven't won and it's not even about you,

689
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 2>it's about only him. I mean, he even takes attention

690
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.039
<v Speaker 2>away from like his players.

691
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 4>Not a big reaction.

692
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:39.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm trying to remember what they want to

693
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 5>affect this conference. I don't remember.

694
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember them winning anything?

695
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:45.279
<v Speaker 5>I don't remember them winning anything.

696
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<v Speaker 2>I love Dan Lanning. I love Dan Lanning A lot rooted.

697
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:57.839
<v Speaker 4>In substance, not flash rooted in substance. Today we talk

698
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:03.799
<v Speaker 4>with our pats, your helmet right every moment. The Cinderella

699
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:06.920
<v Speaker 4>story is over, man, Right, they're fighting for clicks, we're

700
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:10.679
<v Speaker 4>fighting for wins. There's a difference, right, there's a difference.

701
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Right.

702
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:12.960
<v Speaker 4>This game ain't gonna be playing in Hollywood.

703
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be played on the grass.

704
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 4>Right, it's gonna be playing on the grass.

705
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

706
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Why is that so great? It's not just the you know,

707
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 2>they're fighting for clicks, we're fighting for wins. But his delivery,

708
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.159
<v Speaker 2>his delivery, and the this game main's gonna be played

709
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.920
<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood is like an all timeline. Yes, I love it.

710
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I love Dan Lanning, I really do. But anyways, back

711
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:42.119
<v Speaker 2>to dion being a word I can't say on the

712
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.320
<v Speaker 2>on the radio about CBS. For those wondering what happened

713
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:50.199
<v Speaker 2>to CBS, it is the CBS Sports College Football crew

714
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:53.599
<v Speaker 2>who ranked Dion Sanders as the second worst Big twelve

715
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:58.599
<v Speaker 2>coach in twenty twenty four, and he's That article came

716
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>out a month ago and he's still bitter about it.

717
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:04.079
<v Speaker 2>And what Deon Sanders has to understand is that he does,

718
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 2>in fact have a great resume as a player, an

719
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.760
<v Speaker 2>accomplished athlete that is. I mean, he's he's special in

720
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>that regard, right, I mean not only as a football player,

721
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 2>but he was also a hell of a baseball player too.

722
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Like he's he's sensational in that regard. But as a coach, dude,

723
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.800
<v Speaker 2>you haven't, Like you claim you're disrespected for what what

724
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:31.199
<v Speaker 2>have you done? I mean they have him ranked fifteenth

725
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 2>out of sixteen coaches, and I'm sorry he's won. Scott

726
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Saderfield is one ahead of him at number fourteen. Scott Saderfield.

727
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.559
<v Speaker 2>As much as I rag on that bum, he's way

728
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>more successful as a coach than Deon Sanders has ever been.

729
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Who's the coach below him?

730
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Dillingham, who's thirty three years old at Arizona State,

731
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Who's I think in his second year, maybe first year,

732
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:53.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe I don't know. So did he expect to be

733
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:55.880
<v Speaker 2>number one when they've got Kyle Whittingham at Utah who's

734
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 2>been phenomenal, probably the most not talked about coach that's

735
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 2>been sensational, Lance Leepold, Chris Climban, Mike Gundy, Sonny Dyke's,

736
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Matt Campbell, Willie Fritz, Gus Malzan, Neil Brown, Dave A Ronda.

737
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, these are coaches that like. And what's

738
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 2>crazy about this is that with Dion, you can put

739
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 2>a coach who's had like one Bowl appearance, and you

740
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 2>are justly putting that one coach with that coach with

741
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 2>the one Bowl appearance ahead of him, because Dion has

742
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>coached one year and has not proven anything. Like I

743
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 2>just the way he.

744
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Said that with no context makes you feel like CBS

745
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 3>did a hate crime or something.

746
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh, I mean that's that's why he's a clown.

747
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>And I like entertainers in sports because that's what this is.

748
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:40.679
<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day. It's all about entertainment,

749
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>it really is, and he's he is that as far

750
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:48.239
<v Speaker 2>as the entertainment element, but he's also a clown when

751
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 2>it comes to being a coach and just acting as

752
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 2>if he's done something sensational when he really hasn't, and

753
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 2>if he dominates this year, then he'll get credit and

754
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:58.360
<v Speaker 2>it'll be deserved. But I've never seen someone so entitled

755
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and arrogant as a coach civically with nothing to show

756
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>for it. All right, quick break, we'll come back and

757
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:05.400
<v Speaker 2>wrap up the four o'clock hour right here on Sports

758
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety Another one. I don't know, but I

759
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 2>do know that this is insane, right absolutely, I could tell.

760
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 2>And that voice that I'm hearing is not jac guy. Yeah,

761
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I can tell it's I can tell it's him, all right.

762
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>So one of the things we discussed a little bit earlier.

763
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you guys we were with us

764
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.320
<v Speaker 2>at the time in the three o'clock hour, but Michigan

765
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 2>deciding to bring back Jim Harball to be the honorary

766
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:35.199
<v Speaker 2>captain for their opener, fresh off of his punishment from

767
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 2>the nc DOUBLEA that, as you know, is likely it's

768
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 2>not a real punishment because he's never going to coach

769
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 2>and doesn't want to coach in college football again. It's

770
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>just a I think it was an attempted move from

771
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:50.159
<v Speaker 2>the NCUBLEA to look as if they're making an example

772
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>out of somebody. But yet it actually did the opposite,

773
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.199
<v Speaker 2>because it's just it shows your lack of awareness as

774
00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:58.000
<v Speaker 2>far as just how silly it looks to punish someone

775
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:01.840
<v Speaker 2>who quite clearly is not like you. He's untouchable to you,

776
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he just is, and him coming back to

777
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Michigan to be their honorary captain while that I mean,

778
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.320
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't announce this until he got like his

779
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.679
<v Speaker 2>punishment essentially, So like, I think it'll be an interesting

780
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>case study with how this plays out with the n

781
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 2>S DOUABAA, because they seem less and less relevant by

782
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the day, and they don't seem it doesn't seem as

783
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 2>if those within the higher levels of college athletics, right

784
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.639
<v Speaker 2>the big revenue programs, revenue sports, they don't seem to

785
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 2>have as much fear in the n DOUAA as they

786
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:36.679
<v Speaker 2>once did for obvious reason. So if Michigan ends up,

787
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:40.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, and they're gonna bring Harball back, we know that,

788
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 2>but they're they're currently going through they're about to get

789
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 2>a notice delligations from the NAA in regards to the

790
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Connor stallions sound stealing, cheating, and if they go through

791
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 2>that whole thing, get no further punishment and I mean,

792
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like this could end up being the

793
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 2>ultimate move to where there's really no debate. There's no

794
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 2>doubt that the n STUBLE is powerless and useless when

795
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.239
<v Speaker 2>it comes to the highest level of college sports. I

796
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:08.079
<v Speaker 2>think we're already there. I've discussed that quite a bit

797
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 2>this week, But I just feel like Michigan fresh off

798
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:16.039
<v Speaker 2>national championship, knowing they're being investigated for cheating during that

799
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>national championship season, and yet there's still that brazen to

800
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>bring back a coach that just got hit with a

801
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.800
<v Speaker 2>four year show cause and a one season suspension if

802
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:28.199
<v Speaker 2>he ever does return to college. Like they're very much

803
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:33.960
<v Speaker 2>publicly laughing at the NCAA, And I feel like there

804
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.159
<v Speaker 2>hasn't really been a situation quite like this when you

805
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:40.679
<v Speaker 2>have the circumstances meeting a coach that's been that's moved

806
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:42.360
<v Speaker 2>on to go to the NFL, that I got hit

807
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.000
<v Speaker 2>with it, that got hit with a you know, not

808
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 2>a fake punishment essentially, and they're like you would think

809
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 2>they would want to cooperate, like if they feared the

810
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 2>NCAA in anyway, they would cooperate, not do anything to

811
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 2>rock the boat because they don't want anything about their

812
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:01.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three national championship to be viewed as illegitimate

813
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:04.199
<v Speaker 2>because of cheating. But they don't care because nobody cares

814
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.360
<v Speaker 2>about the NCAA anymore, it seems, and I can totally

815
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:11.199
<v Speaker 2>understand why. All right, quick break, we'll come back finish

816
00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 2>strong here the five o'clock hour on a Friday, happy

817
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:17.400
<v Speaker 2>hour for some. Not for us, of course, because we're

818
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>professionals and we still have another hour of work before

819
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 2>we get out of here for the weekend. But if

820
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<v Speaker 2>you have already started your weekend, salute and we'll keep

821
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<v Speaker 2>it rolling until six o'clock right here on Sports Talk

822
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<v Speaker 2>seven to ninety