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<v Speaker 1>Akill that.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing's big, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>This coyways made traders today. We talked about a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit yesterday's show. George Pickens is your newest Dallas Cowboy.

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<v Speaker 1>George Pickens good wide receiver for the Pittsburgh Steelers. The

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<v Speaker 1>Coways give up a third round picking next year's draft

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<v Speaker 1>for him. There's a lot of things that go with

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<v Speaker 1>George Pickens. He's an incredible athlete. He has it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even off the field stuff, it's actually a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>on the field problems. And then like he's just he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's very wild ass, just probably the best description of him.

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<v Speaker 1>The potential is incredible, and then everything else is very

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<v Speaker 1>much up in the air. So he comes to Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>on a contract here and there's a lot to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about here, but I want to read something to you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>First, John, a shot of the Athletic, was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>An article with a beat writer for the Steelers, and

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that they were talking about was the contract scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>So he comes here, has the same agent as Micah Parsons,

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<v Speaker 1>who is not in a contract year, but next year

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<v Speaker 1>would be in a contract year, and there's an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of like the Steelers trying to get rid of him

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<v Speaker 1>now because he would have poisoned the well if he

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<v Speaker 1>held out for training camp. And here's what the Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>rider said, here's the question from Mishoda. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a chance Pickens would sit out until he gets

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<v Speaker 1>a new deal? And the Steelers rider said, just a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago, I'm sorry he goes. I felt trading

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<v Speaker 1>Pickens now made more sense rather than waiting into uncertain

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<v Speaker 1>waters and potentially inviting a messy situation in training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't acted in a rational way previously.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't surprise me if he's willing to be fined

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<v Speaker 1>in camp or even into the season by holding out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's where it's a bad trade if it got there.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so much to discuss, and I think this all

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<v Speaker 3>of this for me personally, it has to do with

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<v Speaker 3>the emotional roller coaster of being a Dallas Cowboy fan.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that there's a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 2>feel the same.

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<v Speaker 3>But from Afar watching George Pickens, I was like, good God,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy's a head case. Look at what he's fighting

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Lewis in a game. I'm like, I'm team Jordan Lewis.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy is out of his mind, all the issues

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<v Speaker 3>he has off the field. The minute he's a Dallas cowboy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yes, he's fixed, but.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll never have any more problems ever. Again, this is great.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've had time just to do some research and

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<v Speaker 3>think about it, read about it, listen to other people

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<v Speaker 3>about it, and just try to wrap my brain around it.

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<v Speaker 3>From a fit standpoint, this is exactly what this offense needs.

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<v Speaker 3>A big, tall receiver who's a vertical threat. Dak hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>had that. You look at the guys he's had to

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<v Speaker 3>throw the ball down the field too. I mean the

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<v Speaker 3>last good one he had was Michael Gallup when before

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<v Speaker 3>he you know, got hurt. He's had little guys since then.

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<v Speaker 3>Those little guys aren't good at running those go routes.

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<v Speaker 3>It just doesn't work the same. You need a big

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<v Speaker 3>guy that could get up the field like and compliment

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<v Speaker 3>Ceedee Lamb. And that's exactly what he is. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>Tedoroa McMillan would have been right if he had he

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<v Speaker 3>had dropped there.

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<v Speaker 1>And so like tallis Pickings, he's the same size as

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<v Speaker 1>Ceede Lamb pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so it's like this guy, this is exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what they need. An X receiver, tall, good target down

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<v Speaker 3>the field, gets downfield speed like he's a perfect compliment

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<v Speaker 3>to what Ced does on the field. It's like ideal.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you start looking, Okay, why is this guy available.

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<v Speaker 3>He's twenty four, He's gonna get you a thousand yards

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<v Speaker 3>a year. He's one of the best receivers in the league,

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<v Speaker 3>but not quite like he's in the tier two right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so if you look at what the tier two

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<v Speaker 3>guys make, like I've heard speculation that the Cowboys are

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<v Speaker 3>about to pay Jalen Tolbert he was in a contract,

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<v Speaker 3>you're right, like ten to twelve, right, there's no way

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<v Speaker 3>they for Jalen Tolbert. Ferguson is about in that same range,

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<v Speaker 3>probably be in that ten to twelve if they decide

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<v Speaker 3>to pay him.

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<v Speaker 2>Or they or they let him want.

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<v Speaker 4>And just so I'm on the same page with you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys believe that Ferguson's a better tight end than

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<v Speaker 4>Tolbert is.

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<v Speaker 3>Receiver site Okay, And so if you look at the

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<v Speaker 3>highest paid number two receivers in the league, they're all

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<v Speaker 3>between twenty twenty eight twenty nine million. Okay, The number

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<v Speaker 3>one like CD he's at thirty five, but there's some

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<v Speaker 3>guys who are at twenty eight, twenty six, twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five. So if you're George Pickens, who a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people took him off their draft board, They're like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not drafting him no matter what. He had got

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<v Speaker 3>into a lot of trouble in college, he's gotten into

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of trouble in the pros. He's been fined

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred dollars in one season alone. He got fined

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred grand for missing team meetings.

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<v Speaker 4>Showing up late, not you know, all the second round

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<v Speaker 4>contract being a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and not only making a million whatever, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a huge fine. So I've I've heard some speculations.

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<v Speaker 3>People are like, dude, that he doesn't want to sign

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<v Speaker 3>a deal because he wants to go have Dacbiust quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>He's had bad quarterbacks and he's going to go earn

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<v Speaker 3>his next contract, so he doesn't want a.

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<v Speaker 4>Deal, Like that's try report of that. That's why I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think he would hold out that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he would either now, And I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>that the Cowboys don't want that either.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, why would we rush out and do a deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see how this goes.

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<v Speaker 3>We're about to get George Pickens on his best possible behavior. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>where he's going to go try to get a contract.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thought is if he leaves, well, they'll just

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<v Speaker 3>go get a compet story pick for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So that's the risk.

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<v Speaker 3>And so if he put up big numbers, let's say that,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say he goes crazy and he puts up twelve

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<v Speaker 3>hundred yards and eight touchdown, ten touches whatever what and go.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's say he gets north of twenty four million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars per year and they don't want to pay it.

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<v Speaker 2>What story pick would they get? Would they get a

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<v Speaker 2>third round pick? It'd be a late third round pick?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so it'd be like what you're giving up

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<v Speaker 1>probably if you're good, Yeah, yeah, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 1>get it back into twenty seven drive.

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<v Speaker 3>It'd just be a year delayed. But they, at least

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<v Speaker 3>right now, are going for it. And I also heard speculation.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard somebody say, I think it was Broadus who

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<v Speaker 3>said something like, you know, a GM that's worried about

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<v Speaker 3>keeping their job doesn't make this trade, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, Hey, nobody in this organization is going anywhere

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<v Speaker 4>unless they decide they want to go somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, like this is the epitome.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of their whole reason they kept Shottenheimer, right,

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<v Speaker 4>this was a guy nobody was trying to hire. Dude,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not at all worried about Schottenheimer as a coach.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>He may not be a great coach, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think he's going to be a bad coach. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think if you grew up in the NFL you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a bad coach. I think he might just

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<v Speaker 4>be a pedestrian coach. What I'm hoping is that he

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<v Speaker 4>actually has some great ideas and I do think that there.

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<v Speaker 4>It always excites me when you're bringing in fresh blood,

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<v Speaker 4>young coaches. Now that doesn't mean they're good, sure, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But like I would just take you back to eight

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<v Speaker 4>years ago and all the coaches that everyone's talking about now,

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<v Speaker 4>nobody knew who they were. Nobody was talking about the

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<v Speaker 4>McVeigh when he was the quarterback coach in Washington. It

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't until he got out from underneath that, and everyone's

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<v Speaker 4>talking about, like that's where fresh blood comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that there's fresh blood in the organization.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that. It may all suck, but I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't based on how the Cowboys have operated.

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot see a scenario in which they have to

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<v Speaker 4>pay Micah Parsons that they are going to pay their

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<v Speaker 4>second receiver twenty five million when they're paying their top

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<v Speaker 4>receiver thirty five I cannot even begin Then they have

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<v Speaker 4>the highest paid quarterback currently, I cannot in any way

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<v Speaker 4>my brain cannot fathom the Cowboys ever doing anything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially and look, if you're gonna pick a position for

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<v Speaker 4>a guy to be a wild ass, I either want

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<v Speaker 4>that wild ass to be a wide receiver or a cornerback.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, the Bengals are your example.

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<v Speaker 1>It's t Higgins who just got signed for twenty eight million,

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<v Speaker 1>But they franchised him for a year, right, so they

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<v Speaker 1>could franchise tag him too if they wanted two years

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<v Speaker 1>of him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get the fizing a wide receiver, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>should be in the nuts. Well, if you got a

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<v Speaker 2>franchise someone, probably so.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think about the Cowboys are trying to improve

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<v Speaker 3>their culture. Like if you look at all the guys

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<v Speaker 3>they draft, they tried to draft team Captains. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 3>is an anti culture guy. This is Jason Garrett stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Team Captains. And then we're bringing in Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Greg Hardy, he's it's but it's that vibe and Gregory

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<v Speaker 3>had questions yeah, or.

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<v Speaker 2>Or does you know?

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<v Speaker 3>And and but uh, I think about what wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>Rick Carlisles said, it can't all be milk drinkers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you can have one guy, right like you can't have

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of those guys. But I don't know. It'll

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<v Speaker 3>be interesting to see how it goes too, because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that there's a team out there based on

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<v Speaker 3>George Pickens pass that wants to pay him twenty eight

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<v Speaker 3>million even if he goes crazy. He ain't getting that

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<v Speaker 3>d he's got warts and you've got concerns bringing him in.

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<v Speaker 3>So what if you could, you know, would they to

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<v Speaker 3>fortify the sixty million they're paying dak and if if

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<v Speaker 3>he goes out and has a big year, would they

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<v Speaker 3>pay Pickings eighteen twenty million a year? And what he accepts, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he was what else is out there for if he

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<v Speaker 3>goes and that's a great point. If he goes out

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<v Speaker 3>there and puts up the numbers that would justify paying

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<v Speaker 3>him big. You're not gonna pay him big, like you

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<v Speaker 3>would have to be like Jacksonville or somebody going all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, yeah, wed time for us to spend some money.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll spend money on this guy. Which if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 4>that's fine. You do let him go and you replenish

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<v Speaker 4>what this reminds me of the kind of move it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It reminds me of the kind of move that we

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<v Speaker 4>all thought the Cowboys would make the last three or

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<v Speaker 4>four years, because Jerry is a thousand years old, right,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>They should have been doing.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what this move was for the Steelers

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<v Speaker 3>in a tiny way, this was the Luca trade.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, we don't want to pay him. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't think this is going to get any better. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>get something for him now. They were sick of that dude,

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<v Speaker 4>like they're sick of him, and dude, they he's a

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four year old, badass receiver and they need receivers

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<v Speaker 4>horribly bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what a funny thing Antonio Brown, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>really not that comparable as players are. Antonio Brown who

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<v Speaker 1>was there for a long time and eventually we're on

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<v Speaker 1>his welcome there. I think everyone says about Antonio Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>though he practiced hard, he worked his ass off. George

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<v Speaker 1>Pickens is a guy who after a game will say

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<v Speaker 1>you at it and block him that run play at

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get hurt. Yes, he said that, which

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<v Speaker 1>you know my record, you know, maybe you know Terry

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<v Speaker 1>your ACL doesn't help us either.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe don't get one. Dude. Man he is They

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't wait to get rid of him.

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<v Speaker 4>Now this will happen, but it's a perfect fit on

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<v Speaker 4>the field for the Cowboys, and for one year he'll

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<v Speaker 4>be on his best behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so maybe to work.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, lie to him and say, hey, man, go

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<v Speaker 4>out there and earn it, and then turn your back

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<v Speaker 4>on him next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And now teams can't triple cover ceede lamb Right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best part.

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<v Speaker 4>And dude, it helps the run game too, yes, because

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<v Speaker 4>now you're gonna get people in cover two.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna get the safety out of the box and

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<v Speaker 2>now you can run. It helps Ferguson.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I love it on the field, but again

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<v Speaker 4>I have zero interest in him being a Cowboy after

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<v Speaker 4>next year. So this season, right it out for one

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<v Speaker 4>year and then you go get the next Teto McMillan

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<v Speaker 4>and next year's trafted kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll never forget the time that Kat had a chance

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<v Speaker 4>to draft Ted McMillan. He looked him dead in the eye.

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<v Speaker 4>He showed him his card and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, I think I would say never change, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but also change.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is a weird thing to say to a rookie

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<v Speaker 4>that's gonna do it for us. But Christina is going

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<v Speaker 4>to stick around and play tunes right here on the

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<v Speaker 4>eagle there.

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<v Speaker 2>You going, well want to get some cheeks after this

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<v Speaker 2>horsepower is joint alright, enough fun in games