Speaker 1: Akill that.
Speaker 2: This thing's big, all right?
Speaker 1: This coyways made traders today. We talked about a little
Speaker 1: bit yesterday's show. George Pickens is your newest Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 1: George Pickens good wide receiver for the Pittsburgh Steelers. The
Speaker 1: Coways give up a third round picking next year's draft
Speaker 1: for him. There's a lot of things that go with
Speaker 1: George Pickens. He's an incredible athlete. He has it's not
Speaker 1: even off the field stuff, it's actually a lot of
Speaker 1: on the field problems. And then like he's just he's
Speaker 1: he's very wild ass, just probably the best description of him.
Speaker 1: The potential is incredible, and then everything else is very
Speaker 1: much up in the air. So he comes to Dallas
Speaker 1: on a contract here and there's a lot to talk
Speaker 1: about here, but I want to read something to you guys.
Speaker 2: First, John, a shot of the Athletic, was doing.
Speaker 1: An article with a beat writer for the Steelers, and
Speaker 1: one thing that they were talking about was the contract scenario.
Speaker 1: So he comes here, has the same agent as Micah Parsons,
Speaker 1: who is not in a contract year, but next year
Speaker 1: would be in a contract year, and there's an idea
Speaker 1: of like the Steelers trying to get rid of him
Speaker 1: now because he would have poisoned the well if he
Speaker 1: held out for training camp. And here's what the Steelers
Speaker 1: rider said, here's the question from Mishoda. Do you think
Speaker 1: there's a chance Pickens would sit out until he gets
Speaker 1: a new deal? And the Steelers rider said, just a
Speaker 1: few years ago, I'm sorry he goes. I felt trading
Speaker 1: Pickens now made more sense rather than waiting into uncertain
Speaker 1: waters and potentially inviting a messy situation in training camp.
Speaker 2: He hasn't acted in a rational way previously.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if he's willing to be fined
Speaker 1: in camp or even into the season by holding out.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's where it's a bad trade if it got there.
Speaker 3: There's so much to discuss, and I think this all
Speaker 3: of this for me personally, it has to do with
Speaker 3: the emotional roller coaster of being a Dallas Cowboy fan.
Speaker 2: And I know that there's a lot of people that
Speaker 2: feel the same.
Speaker 3: But from Afar watching George Pickens, I was like, good God,
Speaker 3: this guy's a head case. Look at what he's fighting
Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis in a game. I'm like, I'm team Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 3: This guy is out of his mind, all the issues
Speaker 3: he has off the field. The minute he's a Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, he's fixed, but.
Speaker 2: He'll never have any more problems ever. Again, this is great.
Speaker 3: So I've had time just to do some research and
Speaker 3: think about it, read about it, listen to other people
Speaker 3: about it, and just try to wrap my brain around it.
Speaker 3: From a fit standpoint, this is exactly what this offense needs.
Speaker 3: A big, tall receiver who's a vertical threat. Dak hasn't
Speaker 3: had that. You look at the guys he's had to
Speaker 3: throw the ball down the field too. I mean the
Speaker 3: last good one he had was Michael Gallup when before
Speaker 3: he you know, got hurt. He's had little guys since then.
Speaker 3: Those little guys aren't good at running those go routes.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't work the same. You need a big
Speaker 3: guy that could get up the field like and compliment
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb. And that's exactly what he is. That's what
Speaker 3: Tedoroa McMillan would have been right if he had he
Speaker 3: had dropped there.
Speaker 1: And so like tallis Pickings, he's the same size as
Speaker 1: Ceede Lamb pretty much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so it's like this guy, this is exactly
Speaker 3: what they need. An X receiver, tall, good target down
Speaker 3: the field, gets downfield speed like he's a perfect compliment
Speaker 3: to what Ced does on the field. It's like ideal.
Speaker 3: But then you start looking, Okay, why is this guy available.
Speaker 3: He's twenty four, He's gonna get you a thousand yards
Speaker 3: a year. He's one of the best receivers in the league,
Speaker 3: but not quite like he's in the tier two right, right,
Speaker 3: And so if you look at what the tier two
Speaker 3: guys make, like I've heard speculation that the Cowboys are
Speaker 3: about to pay Jalen Tolbert he was in a contract,
Speaker 3: you're right, like ten to twelve, right, there's no way
Speaker 3: they for Jalen Tolbert. Ferguson is about in that same range,
Speaker 3: probably be in that ten to twelve if they decide
Speaker 3: to pay him.
Speaker 2: Or they or they let him want.
Speaker 4: And just so I'm on the same page with you guys.
Speaker 4: You guys believe that Ferguson's a better tight end than
Speaker 4: Tolbert is.
Speaker 3: Receiver site Okay, And so if you look at the
Speaker 3: highest paid number two receivers in the league, they're all
Speaker 3: between twenty twenty eight twenty nine million. Okay, The number
Speaker 3: one like CD he's at thirty five, but there's some
Speaker 3: guys who are at twenty eight, twenty six, twenty seven,
Speaker 3: twenty five. So if you're George Pickens, who a lot
Speaker 3: of people took him off their draft board, They're like,
Speaker 3: we're not drafting him no matter what. He had got
Speaker 3: into a lot of trouble in college, he's gotten into
Speaker 3: a lot of trouble in the pros. He's been fined
Speaker 3: two hundred dollars in one season alone. He got fined
Speaker 3: two hundred grand for missing team meetings.
Speaker 4: Showing up late, not you know, all the second round
Speaker 4: contract being a problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not only making a million whatever, that's a lot.
Speaker 3: That's a huge fine. So I've I've heard some speculations.
Speaker 3: People are like, dude, that he doesn't want to sign
Speaker 3: a deal because he wants to go have Dacbiust quarterback.
Speaker 3: He's had bad quarterbacks and he's going to go earn
Speaker 3: his next contract, so he doesn't want a.
Speaker 4: Deal, Like that's try report of that. That's why I
Speaker 4: don't think he would hold out that.
Speaker 3: I don't think he would either now, And I've heard
Speaker 3: that the Cowboys don't want that either.
Speaker 4: They're like, why would we rush out and do a deal.
Speaker 4: Let's see how this goes.
Speaker 3: We're about to get George Pickens on his best possible behavior. Yeah,
Speaker 3: where he's going to go try to get a contract.
Speaker 3: And the thought is if he leaves, well, they'll just
Speaker 3: go get a compet story pick for him.
Speaker 2: Right, So that's the risk.
Speaker 3: And so if he put up big numbers, let's say that,
Speaker 3: Let's say he goes crazy and he puts up twelve
Speaker 3: hundred yards and eight touchdown, ten touches whatever what and go.
Speaker 3: And let's say he gets north of twenty four million
Speaker 3: dollars per year and they don't want to pay it.
Speaker 2: What story pick would they get? Would they get a
Speaker 2: third round pick? It'd be a late third round pick?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so it'd be like what you're giving up
Speaker 1: probably if you're good, Yeah, yeah, you know, and you
Speaker 1: get it back into twenty seven drive.
Speaker 3: It'd just be a year delayed. But they, at least
Speaker 3: right now, are going for it. And I also heard speculation.
Speaker 3: I heard somebody say, I think it was Broadus who
Speaker 3: said something like, you know, a GM that's worried about
Speaker 3: keeping their job doesn't make this trade, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, Hey, nobody in this organization is going anywhere
Speaker 4: unless they decide they want to go somewhere.
Speaker 2: Sure, like this is the epitome.
Speaker 4: It's kind of their whole reason they kept Shottenheimer, right,
Speaker 4: this was a guy nobody was trying to hire. Dude,
Speaker 4: I'm not at all worried about Schottenheimer as a coach.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 4: He may not be a great coach, but I don't
Speaker 4: think he's going to be a bad coach. I don't
Speaker 4: think if you grew up in the NFL you're going
Speaker 4: to be a bad coach. I think he might just
Speaker 4: be a pedestrian coach. What I'm hoping is that he
Speaker 4: actually has some great ideas and I do think that there.
Speaker 4: It always excites me when you're bringing in fresh blood,
Speaker 4: young coaches. Now that doesn't mean they're good, sure, right,
Speaker 4: But like I would just take you back to eight
Speaker 4: years ago and all the coaches that everyone's talking about now,
Speaker 4: nobody knew who they were. Nobody was talking about the
Speaker 4: McVeigh when he was the quarterback coach in Washington. It
Speaker 4: wasn't until he got out from underneath that, and everyone's
Speaker 4: talking about, like that's where fresh blood comes from.
Speaker 2: And the fact that there's fresh blood in the organization.
Speaker 4: I love that. It may all suck, but I love that.
Speaker 4: But I don't based on how the Cowboys have operated.
Speaker 4: I cannot see a scenario in which they have to
Speaker 4: pay Micah Parsons that they are going to pay their
Speaker 4: second receiver twenty five million when they're paying their top
Speaker 4: receiver thirty five I cannot even begin Then they have
Speaker 4: the highest paid quarterback currently, I cannot in any way
Speaker 4: my brain cannot fathom the Cowboys ever doing anything like that.
Speaker 4: Especially and look, if you're gonna pick a position for
Speaker 4: a guy to be a wild ass, I either want
Speaker 4: that wild ass to be a wide receiver or a cornerback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the Bengals are your example.
Speaker 1: It's t Higgins who just got signed for twenty eight million,
Speaker 1: But they franchised him for a year, right, so they
Speaker 1: could franchise tag him too if they wanted two years
Speaker 1: of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get the fizing a wide receiver, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: should be in the nuts. Well, if you got a
Speaker 2: franchise someone, probably so.
Speaker 3: I also think about the Cowboys are trying to improve
Speaker 3: their culture. Like if you look at all the guys
Speaker 3: they draft, they tried to draft team Captains. Yeah, this
Speaker 3: is an anti culture guy. This is Jason Garrett stuff.
Speaker 3: This is Team Captains. And then we're bringing in Yeah,
Speaker 3: Greg Hardy, he's it's but it's that vibe and Gregory
Speaker 3: had questions yeah, or.
Speaker 2: Or does you know?
Speaker 3: And and but uh, I think about what wasn't it?
Speaker 3: Rick Carlisles said, it can't all be milk drinkers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can have one guy, right like you can't have
Speaker 3: a bunch of those guys. But I don't know. It'll
Speaker 3: be interesting to see how it goes too, because I
Speaker 3: don't know that there's a team out there based on
Speaker 3: George Pickens pass that wants to pay him twenty eight
Speaker 3: million even if he goes crazy. He ain't getting that
Speaker 3: d he's got warts and you've got concerns bringing him in.
Speaker 3: So what if you could, you know, would they to
Speaker 3: fortify the sixty million they're paying dak and if if
Speaker 3: he goes out and has a big year, would they
Speaker 3: pay Pickings eighteen twenty million a year? And what he accepts, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was what else is out there for if he
Speaker 3: goes and that's a great point. If he goes out
Speaker 3: there and puts up the numbers that would justify paying
Speaker 3: him big. You're not gonna pay him big, like you
Speaker 3: would have to be like Jacksonville or somebody going all.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, wed time for us to spend some money.
Speaker 4: We'll spend money on this guy. Which if that's the case,
Speaker 4: that's fine. You do let him go and you replenish
Speaker 4: what this reminds me of the kind of move it is.
Speaker 4: It reminds me of the kind of move that we
Speaker 4: all thought the Cowboys would make the last three or
Speaker 4: four years, because Jerry is a thousand years old, right,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: They should have been doing.
Speaker 3: But you know what this move was for the Steelers
Speaker 3: in a tiny way, this was the Luca trade.
Speaker 4: They're like, we don't want to pay him. Yeah, we
Speaker 4: don't think this is going to get any better. Let's
Speaker 4: get something for him now. They were sick of that dude,
Speaker 4: like they're sick of him, and dude, they he's a
Speaker 4: twenty four year old, badass receiver and they need receivers
Speaker 4: horribly bad.
Speaker 1: You know what a funny thing Antonio Brown, and they're
Speaker 1: really not that comparable as players are. Antonio Brown who
Speaker 1: was there for a long time and eventually we're on
Speaker 1: his welcome there. I think everyone says about Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: though he practiced hard, he worked his ass off. George
Speaker 1: Pickens is a guy who after a game will say
Speaker 1: you at it and block him that run play at
Speaker 1: don't want to get hurt. Yes, he said that, which
Speaker 1: you know my record, you know, maybe you know Terry
Speaker 1: your ACL doesn't help us either.
Speaker 2: So maybe don't get one. Dude. Man he is They
Speaker 2: couldn't wait to get rid of him.
Speaker 4: Now this will happen, but it's a perfect fit on
Speaker 4: the field for the Cowboys, and for one year he'll
Speaker 4: be on his best behavior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe to work.
Speaker 4: I agree, lie to him and say, hey, man, go
Speaker 4: out there and earn it, and then turn your back
Speaker 4: on him next year.
Speaker 1: And now teams can't triple cover ceede lamb Right, that's
Speaker 1: the best part.
Speaker 4: And dude, it helps the run game too, yes, because
Speaker 4: now you're gonna get people in cover two.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get the safety out of the box and
Speaker 2: now you can run. It helps Ferguson.
Speaker 4: I mean, I love it on the field, but again
Speaker 4: I have zero interest in him being a Cowboy after
Speaker 4: next year. So this season, right it out for one
Speaker 4: year and then you go get the next Teto McMillan
Speaker 4: and next year's trafted kid.
Speaker 2: Let's do it, all right.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget the time that Kat had a chance
Speaker 4: to draft Ted McMillan. He looked him dead in the eye.
Speaker 4: He showed him his card and he.
Speaker 1: Said, I think I would say never change, you know,
Speaker 1: but also change.
Speaker 4: Which is a weird thing to say to a rookie
Speaker 4: that's gonna do it for us. But Christina is going
Speaker 4: to stick around and play tunes right here on the
Speaker 4: eagle there.
Speaker 2: You going, well want to get some cheeks after this
Speaker 2: horsepower is joint alright, enough fun in games