WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:02.799 But it's time now to bring in former Utah quarterback, 2 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:05.320 former NFL quarterback. Always a pleasure to catch up with 3 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:07.759 Scott Mitchell. Scott, Happy Monday, sir. How are we doing. 4 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:13.279 I'm doing wonderful. I felt like last weekend's college football 5 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:17.559 was Oprah Winfrey giving the top fifteen teams losses. You 6 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:19.600 get a loss, and you get a loss, and you 7 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:22.640 get a loss. It was like everyone who is important, 8 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:26.800 including Alabama, loss this weekend. It's crazy weekend in college football. 9 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:29.760 Yes, certainly, And it feels like Scott, let's start with 10 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:32.320 this from a macro standpoint, if we can look at 11 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:35.920 this as good news for Utah fans, there will be 12 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:40.479 multiple teams in the CFP that have multiple losses and 13 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:42.799 not just one and two, maybe even three and four 14 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.079 with the way this stuff is going. Would you agree 15 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:46.280 with that statement as of now? 16 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:51.640 Yeah, I mean it's weird because most of the conferences have, like, 17 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:56.399 you know, sixteen teams, fourteen sixteen teams, and so they're 18 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:59.000 not necessarily all playing each other. Maybe these teams are 19 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:01.880 playing harder teams now because they know, hey, I can 20 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:04.000 have a couple of losses and still make it into 21 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:08.359 college playoffs. Maybe it's nil. Maybe the talent is just 22 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:11.079 spreading around the country and there's more parody. I mean, 23 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:13.799 I'm sure there's a lot of factors that go into this, 24 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:17.560 because you don't really feel like, Okay, there's just one team. 25 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:20.079 You know, maybe it's Texas, maybe it's Ohio State that 26 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:22.519 are the best teams in the country. But beyond that, 27 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:27.840 you know, it certainly is pretty wide open, which should 28 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:30.079 give you a hope. You get in the playoffs and 29 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:31.760 you go, look, we don't have to beat this team 30 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:33.959 every week, but we can beat them one week. And 31 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:37.359 everyone's kind of proven that that they can at least 32 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:41.359 lose at one time, and that that's that's kind of exciting. 33 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:44.400 It's something that will be fun to watch it and 34 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:46.599 it can be very competitive. But as far as it 35 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:49.280 relates to Utah, man, you got you got to you 36 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:53.040 gotta be a little bit relieved. You got to feel like, Okay, hey, 37 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:55.719 we you know, we kind of screwed it up in 38 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:58.640 our game against Arizona. But look at Alabama, I look 39 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:01.719 at some of these other schools, and the reality is 40 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:04.719 is it's it can happen to anyone, and it really can. 41 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:09.240 I mean, I've seen this at all levels and all teams, 42 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:11.800 they just have at tonight when it's just not their night. 43 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:15.280 So game week for the Utes, Friday night, it's a 44 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:18.360 late kick fan duel has Utah's a six point five 45 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:20.719 point favorite even though they're on the road. The line 46 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:22.960 opened up Utah minus five, and it's gone the way 47 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.719 of the Utes a couple of different times. Let's start 48 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:28.280 with this, though, Scott. Over the weekend, I talked to 49 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:31.159 somebody up on campus and Coach Wig just alluded to 50 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:35.319 this in his media this morning. This is not set 51 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.479 in stone, but I'm told that there is a field 52 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:42.120 that if Cameron can't go on Friday and it's Isaac again, 53 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:44.479 that they're getting close to just giving Isaac that job. 54 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:48.800 Give me your take on that, because for me, I 55 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:50.960 still believe for them to win the Big twelve, Cam 56 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.240 has to be under center. And it's not Isaac's fall 57 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:55.560 these eighteen he's a freshman, just enrolled in school. But 58 00:02:56.120 --> 00:03:00.240 Friday night, you're calling the game, and if the first 59 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:03.680 team Oh runs out and it's Isaac Hunters center as 60 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:06.240 center and not Cam, do you feel like we're inching 61 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:08.520 closer and closer to the day where Coach Wait and 62 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:10.360 coach Love and those guys just need to give Isaac 63 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:11.840 the job and just roll with the young kid. 64 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:16.240 Well, if that's the case, then this injury is much 65 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:20.319 more significant than we think, and it hasn't appeared like 66 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:25.039 it it is. Watching Cam he looked terrible warming up 67 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:29.159 against Oklahoma State and looked better against Arizona. I would 68 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:33.360 be really surprised if he doesn't play on Friday. He 69 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:38.879 clearly from experience, from ability, you know, gives gives Utah 70 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:43.199 the best chance to win, you know, if he's healthy. 71 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:46.240 But if it is Isaac, and if they do start 72 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:51.039 going that direction, it's one of those you know, it's like, 73 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:54.199 no matter what with a young quarterback, you're just gonna 74 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:57.280 get good and bad. Like so last week against Arizona, 75 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:02.199 the bad part was the team is not It's kind 76 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:06.199 of like in a funk and a veteran quarterback will 77 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:09.000 kind of rally the troops and Cam Rising would rally 78 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:11.439 the troops, and Cam Rising would say, Okay, we've got 79 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:13.439 to go win this game in the second half or 80 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.319 win this game. And there were plenty of opportunities in 81 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:19.079 the second half for that to happen, and it just didn't. 82 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:22.959 It's just it's like the young quarterback team just kind 83 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.480 of accepted its fate and they just they just weren't 84 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:29.079 able to get anything going. And that's just youth and 85 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:33.639 that's inexperienced. And that game against Arizona is the perfect 86 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:36.399 example of when you need a Cam Rising. So you're 87 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:38.040 going to go through more of those times. You know, 88 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:42.279 if Isaac does play, hopefully you'll see that, Okay, go 89 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.519 win a football game mindset from him moving forward when 90 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.480 they really need it, because the quarterback is the is 91 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:52.000 the biggest difference maker in college football. And that's that's 92 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.240 what Cam Rising was. I mean, there were so many 93 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:57.160 times he made incredible plays and it was just Cam 94 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.240 Rising making plays through the years when you so I 95 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.800 won back twelve championships, uh, and it was him going 96 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:06.480 out and winning football games. And and that's a guy 97 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:11.600 who's a leader, who's confident, who is mature, who's who's 98 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:13.920 ready to do that. You know, freshman right out of 99 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:17.959 high school, that maturity level just isn't quite quite there. 100 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:20.920 So you're if you go with Isaac, you're just going 101 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:23.839 to have ups and downs and and hopefully you just 102 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:26.000 see progress. And if you see a lot of progress, 103 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.079 and you go. That's really exciting because you get you 104 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:31.439 take your lumps for a year with Isaac, but then 105 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:34.600 you have three, you know, two or three years, however 106 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:37.279 long he stays in school, whatever he does, then you 107 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:39.759 have a lot of time with him where where you're 108 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.399 going to have that mature quarterback. You're going to have 109 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:44.720 that difference maker, and that's huge. It's huge to a 110 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:47.240 team and it's hard to kind of go through those 111 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:50.680 pains as a team with a young quarterback, but it 112 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:52.240 can pay dividends down the road. 113 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:55.040 At what point, Scott, in your opinion, to somebody who 114 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:57.920 played the position, and you know, put yourself, I suppose 115 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:01.199 in the shoes of both Cam and I Isaac, at 116 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.519 what point do you think the right time is to 117 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:07.560 just give Isaac the job? Is it Friday? If Cam's 118 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:09.920 not ready, do you still wait? I mean, part of 119 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:12.240 me believes that whenever Cam's ready, he's got to be 120 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.120 back on her center, even if that's not for another 121 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:16.040 three or four weeks. Then the other side of me 122 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.480 believes that Isaac probably if he's going to be the 123 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:21.680 guy needs the reps with the ones period and if 124 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:23.879 it's going to be his job, then let's just move 125 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:25.800 on with it. What's your opinion on that? 126 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.680 Oh man, it's a hard you know, there's an argument 127 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:32.560 that you know, you don't lose your job because of 128 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:35.920 an injury. There's some coaches. Bill Belichick just went away 129 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:40.399 from Drew Bledsoel, who was a phenomenal quarterback. I mean, 130 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:42.160 he was one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL 131 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:44.360 when he was benched for Tom Brady, who was kind 132 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:48.079 of a seventh round nobody. And for a lot of time, 133 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:49.680 I think a lot of people go, Okay, well, Drew 134 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:51.800 Brett so when he comes back, is going to be 135 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:54.879 the guy, and it just never happened. And I think 136 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:57.639 so much of it is a coach just making a 137 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:00.360 decision on who's the guy that gives us the very 138 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:05.360 best chance to win. Historically, Earle Morale comes in for 139 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:09.600 Bob Greasy and you know, leads the Dolphins to a 140 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:13.439 perfect regular season and then gets benched in the playoffs 141 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.399 and Greasy wins the Super Bowl for him. So you know, 142 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:18.560 maybe it is a combination of both of those things. 143 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:21.879 But I'm more like you. I really think you go 144 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:24.560 with the guy with the most experience to give you 145 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:29.759 the best chance to win today and developing is really 146 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.160 for teams that are not very good, right, and this 147 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:35.000 Utah team, as you point out in the beginning, has 148 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.839 a shot to go to the playoffs and it's anybody's 149 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:41.360 game there. And I think that's something that really should 150 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.680 be the ultimate goal for this Utah team is we 151 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:45.759 got to win today. We got to win now. We've 152 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:47.399 got to put the best players on the field that 153 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:48.560 give us a chance to do that. 154 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:51.480 Here comes the most obvious statement in the history of 155 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:54.120 sports DOOC radio. If you're a quarterback, you need a 156 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:57.160 healthy hand. If you're a kicker, you need a healthy foot. 157 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:00.879 So there it is. But Scott is somebody played the position. 158 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:03.319 Help us understand the mechanics of why it is so 159 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:05.959 challenging for cameraon to get the zip back with an 160 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.199 injury like he has to his hands and his fingers. 161 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.639 Yeah. See, I've kind of gone the rounds with this. 162 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:17.439 And you know, some guys have shoulder injuries or other 163 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:21.920 injuries and and you know, separations and they're able to play. 164 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:24.920 I had I had a third degree shoulder separation on 165 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:28.600 my throwing shoulder when I was playing for the Miami Dolphins. 166 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.720 And I came back after five weeks and my arm 167 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:34.799 was a rag, but I was like, I don't care. 168 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:37.200 I want to play and help our team. You know, 169 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.200 we were one of the top teams in the NFL 170 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:41.519 at the time, and and I had a chance to 171 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:44.000 go be a free agent, so I was highly motivated 172 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:48.039 to play. When you have those injuries, it's just it's 173 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:52.799 it's kind of an individual thing. Like some guys, some 174 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.679 guys are really good at tolerating pain, like like their 175 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:59.039 pain threshold just really good. And other guys are kind 176 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:03.120 of wooses, and it's just like it, and you can't 177 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:05.440 pick who they are, you know, It's just it's almost 178 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:08.799 a personality thing. It's almost just how we kind of 179 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:12.879 deal with with pain. I know myself, I know a 180 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:14.879 lot of guys played with a lot of pain, and 181 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:17.919 I'm sure that that that's happening here. I don't know 182 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:21.080 that Kim probably this year, will ever get to where 183 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:25.000 his hand is totally free. But to me, those two fingers, 184 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:30.440 your middle finger, your your ring finger, you know, I 185 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:32.559 don't know that they have You know that they're the 186 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:36.440 most important thing that you have. But when you're when 187 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:40.120 you're a highly trained athlete, a football player, at least 188 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:44.399 for me, the slightest variation in something could really throw 189 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:48.279 things off, because you're so acutely attuned to your body 190 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.000 and you know how it functions, and and you feel 191 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:54.039 so many things, and you know, just a slight variation 192 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:58.200 on your wrist when you release a pass changes its trajectory, 193 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.919 you know, and you don't almost subconsciously do it, you know. 194 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:05.759 So there's just these really fine things that happened that 195 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:08.480 that could easily be thrown off. I would imagine it 196 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:13.399 would affect him, But I would also know that when 197 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:14.720 you get out in a game and you get that 198 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:17.360 adrenaline flowing, it just you kind of throw it all 199 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:19.720 out the window and you just you deal with the 200 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:21.000 pain after the game's over. 201 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:24.279 So ultimately, as you know, you can't simulate a game, 202 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:28.519 right And so if if Cameron's cleared, ye are you 203 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:31.600 expecting some Russ to start? Does he have enough experience 204 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.519 under his belt that he should be good to go, 205 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:36.240 or you know, after taking a few weeks, not taking 206 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:39.039 a few weeks, after missing a few weeks via injury. 207 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:42.679 What's a reasonable expectation for Cam should he be under 208 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:44.000 center on Friday night? 209 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:48.679 Well? Cam, Cam's game has always been he's mobile, He 210 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:52.279 makes a lot of plays with his legs, and that's 211 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:54.799 that's the biggest thing that's you know, you just don't 212 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:57.639 have you just don't have game shape. You know, there's 213 00:10:57.720 --> 00:10:59.679 there's a thing they just called it. He's in game shape. 214 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:02.519 You may be in physical great condition, but there's a 215 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:05.200 different condition to a game. And the only way you 216 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.440 get that is by having games. I mean, that's part 217 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.720 of why they have the non conference games, preseason games 218 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:14.399 in the NFL, so that when you hit the regular season, 219 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:18.799 you've had enough game experienced tempo to where okay, I'm 220 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:21.279 ready for it. And it does. It takes. It takes 221 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:23.519 some time when you've been out. I mean he's been out, 222 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:26.399 I don't know almost you know, a season and a 223 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.519 half now and that and that's that's hard. I mean 224 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:33.799 the experience, you know, riding a bicycle, thing that's there, 225 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:37.440 but the physical nuts is not. And and it's an adjustment. 226 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:40.480 It's you can get by a lot on your savvy 227 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:44.639 and your experience and your especially with what I think 228 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:46.320 this team is because I think there's a lot of 229 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:50.840 good players. They just haven't been totally assimilated into things. 230 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.720 Because you have a young quarterback and you know, money 231 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:56.559 parks and the tight ends and some of these other 232 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:59.600 wide receivers are just not quite getting the same touches 233 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:02.360 that I think they would if Cam was in there. 234 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:04.919 And you can kind of rely on those guys more 235 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.320 than you rely on your legs and as you're kind 236 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:11.639 of getting into game shape. But the leadership, the savvy, 237 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:15.200 I would take that, with the rust and the and 238 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:18.879 the maybe not having game condition just yet. 239 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:23.440 So Scott, it's safe to say, and the data says 240 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:26.919 as much that the offense you know, with Isaac has 241 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:28.840 just has it hasn't been good enough. And of course 242 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.519 it's not all on him, and it's hard to put 243 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:33.919 any of it on such a young kid who enrolled 244 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.240 in April. But one hundred and eleventh in red zone, 245 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:40.919 one hundred and thirteenth and third down conversion? Are these 246 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:44.919 problems alleviated instantly when Can comes back? And attendant to 247 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:47.799 the question is in the meantime, as long as it's Isaac, 248 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.600 what can be done to make this offense look a 249 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.600 little bit more efficient starting Friday night? 250 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:57.480 You know one of the things, well it let's just 251 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:00.120 take the red zone to start with. The reds Z 252 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:04.360 is easier to score the further you're out. So maybe 253 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:08.360 from like the twenty to the maybe the twelve, take 254 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:11.519 your shot in the end zone because they still have 255 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.440 to cover the field and it's easier to get those 256 00:13:14.559 --> 00:13:17.840 throws into the end zone. It's one way, and we 257 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:20.200 used to do it all the time in the NFL, 258 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.440 and there's certain coverages you can almost predict to be 259 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.600 one hundred percent when teams get in the red zone. 260 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:27.600 And so if you get that coverage, you really like 261 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:30.639 it and you take your shot, you know, twenty yard line, two, 262 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:34.320 about the twelve, thirteen then and then like last week 263 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:36.120 where they got to the nine yard line, which is 264 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:38.440 a kiss of death, like first and goal from the nine, 265 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:41.320 it's the longest you can go without getting a first down. 266 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:44.919 Where Utah has done really well in the past, even 267 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.879 with Cam Rising, is they've run the football and you've 268 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:50.919 got all these tight ends and all these people and 269 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:53.559 it's like just this is big boy power football. This 270 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:56.159 is who you are Utah. You know, make a commitment. 271 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:59.080 If you're right there, just run it. Don't try to 272 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:02.759 cause it's so hot, hard to throw in those tight situations, 273 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:06.879 and it's it's it's amplified by ten when you're a young, 274 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:11.039 inexperienced quarterback, like you just don't know and or or 275 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.080 if you're going to throw the ball to Caleb Loaner, 276 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:17.159 understand how how to utilize where his asset is and 277 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:19.799 that's throw the ball high. But it's not it's not 278 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:23.080 that simple because in a game situation, you've got all 279 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:25.440 the stuff coming at you and and you throw it 280 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:27.879 too soon or throw it in accurately. You've got to 281 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.840 really be a little bit patient and let him get 282 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:33.519 position and then throw in the football. And that just 283 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:36.600 takes time, It takes practice, it takes talking to but 284 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:40.399 whatever you do, like be committed to it. It just 285 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:43.039 felt like Utah was kind of, well, we'll try this, 286 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.080 we'll try that, we'll try we'll kind of try all 287 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:48.159 these things. And and they're just a little bit better 288 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:51.399 when they you know, they's like take your shots the 289 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.120 end zone, further out, run the ball when you get close, 290 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:56.080 throw the ball up the kick cause it's it's it's 291 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:59.519 a real weapon that they haven't totally utilized with Caleb Loaner. 292 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:03.399 And then the third down, third down, believe it or not, 293 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:05.960 spense is kind of easy. You got to win on 294 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:09.840 first down, you win on first down. So whatever the 295 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:12.279 defense is giving you and a lot of Utah is 296 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:15.600 getting kind of this pressure look on early downs. So 297 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:17.799 if you've run the ball or throw the ball, whatever 298 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:22.399 you do, succeed on first down, because then you make 299 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:25.399 third down short. If you ever get to third down, 300 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:27.360 and then there's a lot more you can do. You 301 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.320 can you can throw the ball, you can run the ball. 302 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:32.399 You can run the ball if it's third and short, 303 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:35.840 run the ball again on fourth and short. But it 304 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.440 just makes it a lot easier. The percentages go in 305 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:40.399 your favor if you win on first down. 306 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:44.759 So, if it is Isaac on Friday, what sort of 307 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.399 game plan are we expecting. You've talked a lot during 308 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:50.759 this interview about just stick to your identity and commit one. 309 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:51.240 Way or the other. 310 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:55.159 Are we going to see Coach Love maybe continue to 311 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:58.679 give Isaac more space. Do you look at what happened 312 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:02.279 against Arizona and reel the playbook back to simplify to 313 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:05.039 maybe just run the football more and look like a 314 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.799 football team? Who's head coaches Kyle Whittingham. If it is 315 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.440 Isaac on Friday, what do you think the offensive schematic 316 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:11.240 attack looks like? 317 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:15.840 Scott so usually in bye weeks. You kind of look 318 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:17.960 and you go, who are we what's our identity? Who 319 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:20.759 what are we known for. We're tough, we're physical, We're 320 00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:23.759 going to run the football, and I would I would 321 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:26.399 anticipate that's what Utah's You know, we've got to stop 322 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:28.679 the run. Arizona State it's a very good run team. 323 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:30.360 So you got to stop the run. You got to 324 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:32.799 run the football, and that's that's where it's going to focus. 325 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:37.559 And so everything offensively plays off of the run, and 326 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.159 that means play action. But if you're going to run 327 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:43.120 the football, you better expect that they're going to bring 328 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.679 pressure the run pressure. They're going to put more guys 329 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:49.480 in the tackle box than you have there to block, 330 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.120 and so you've got to have answers to that. So 331 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.480 you do get that win on first down because teams 332 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:58.279 know if we can stop Utah on first down, we 333 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:00.919 pretty much are going to lock down and so that 334 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:04.880 first down becomes huge. So bringing in the extra blocker 335 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:09.039 or bringing in more tight ends on early downs play action. 336 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:13.839 There's a lot of throws that Utah has, especially to 337 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:16.640 the tight ends in the short to intermediate area on 338 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:22.839 early downs that have always been a really large component 339 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:25.519 of this team, so I would expect seeing a lot 340 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:26.880 of that. And the other thing I haven't seen a 341 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:31.960 lot of is wide runs. You know, where's where's de 342 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:35.039 John Stanley? Or money parks on these sply sweeps and 343 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:38.960 these reverses, because there's so much of the run has 344 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:42.480 been straight ahead into the inside and maybe you'll see 345 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:44.319 a little bit more of that as it goes forward. 346 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:48.079 But everything. If I'm a betting man, which I'm not, 347 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:50.759 but if I was, I'd say that's what Utah probably 348 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:51.119 would do. 349 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:55.759 Tell me what you've seen from Isaac when he throws 350 00:17:55.799 --> 00:18:00.960 his ironts, because statistically, one hundred and thirteen FB quarterbacks 351 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:04.640 have less than seven picks, and Isaac is right there 352 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:08.119 when it comes to the national rankings with seven interceptions. 353 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:10.799 It's never on one person or the other. Are you 354 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:14.160 seeing bad decisions? Are you seeing broken routes? Are you 355 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:15.799 seeing a rushed young quarterback? 356 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:15.920 What? 357 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:19.079 Scott, from your trained eye do you see when Isaac 358 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:20.000 throws the picks? 359 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:25.039 So a lot of it is you predetermined in your 360 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:29.559 head where you're going. You've practices play all week in practice, 361 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.000 and you've just always thrown it to this guy, and 362 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:34.480 for whatever reason, the defense, and you just don't have 363 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:37.920 enough game experience to know, well, they changed the coverage 364 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:40.160 on you. So you've got to see what they've changed 365 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.960 and you've got to adjust accordingly. And so a lot 366 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:45.039 of the throws, a lot of the interceptions have been 367 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:49.359 kind of he's predetermined in his head where he's going 368 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:54.000 with the football before the play actually happens. And that's 369 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:57.559 and all quarterbacks have done it. I'm guiltiest charged too, 370 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:01.480 where you have to see the play when when it 371 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:04.559 actually develops. And then the other thing is, you know, 372 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:06.400 you're in high school and you can get away with 373 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.559 certain throws and and here at this level, there's there's 374 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:13.400 you just can't. And you're also in an offense. In 375 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:15.839 high school, he throw ball fifty million times. It's like 376 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:17.799 if you throw an interception or two, it doesn't matter 377 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:20.279 because you're going to throw a whole lot more more 378 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:24.359 touchdown passes than that. And so there's there's been a 379 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:28.039 little bit of a cavalier casual attitude about some of 380 00:19:28.039 --> 00:19:29.880 the throws, and a lot of those have been down 381 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.559 in the red zone where you're you're just you're not 382 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:38.359 seeing what's really going on, and you're you're you're you're 383 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:40.680 not making the clients row. And so it's so much 384 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:44.319 about you have to see the picture as it unfolds. 385 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:47.160 You can't predetermine anything in your head and then you 386 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:50.240 just react off of that picture. And that that comes 387 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:54.039 through practice and repetition and experience and time. But a 388 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:57.359 lot of his a lot of his interceptions could be 389 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:01.640 avoided and and we will in the future. If they don't, 390 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:04.480 then then he's not your guy. Because if a guy 391 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:07.359 can't learn from that and grow and develop, then you 392 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:09.240 can't really trust that guy to be on the field 393 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:10.920 and not throw interceptions. 394 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:13.960 All right, Scott, before I say you lose, The Arizona 395 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:17.200 narrative leading into the game last Saturday was they wanted 396 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:20.319 to make it a get right game after getting trounced 397 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:23.000 by k State. They had to buy and then they 398 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:25.440 rolled into rice cycles and they had to get right game. 399 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:28.680 In the Scott Mitchell opinion, a get right game for 400 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:31.480 Utah on Friday night looks like what. 401 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:37.640