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<v Speaker 1>What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>where we left off with the Bill Clinton transcript from

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<v Speaker 1>his trip to Congress. Question, did Jeffrey Epstein ever inform

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<v Speaker 1>you or represent to you that he was working with

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<v Speaker 1>any intelligence service of any nation, including the United States?

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton, no. Question, did Ghislaine Maxwell ever inform you

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<v Speaker 1>or represent to you that she was working with any

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence service of any nation, including the United States? Answer, no. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>and during your relationship, did you ever suspect Epstein or

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell of being affiliated with any intelligence agency? Answer, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not. Answer, thank you. Question, I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about your time at the White House. I realize that

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<v Speaker 1>you testified your recollection is limited, but did Mr. Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>ever visit the White House while you were president? Objection.

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<v Speaker 1>Asked and answered. Bill Clinton. The records reflect that he did. Congresswoman,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the question. Emmer. According to a FOA request

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<v Speaker 1>to the Clinton Library, Mr. Epstein visited the White House

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<v Speaker 1>at least 17 times between 1993 and 1995. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any reason to dispute those numbers? Answer. Nope, I don't. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what the nature of Mr. Epstein's visits

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<v Speaker 1>to the White House were? And to this, Cheryl Mills

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<v Speaker 1>jumps in. Are you asking what he knew in preparation

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<v Speaker 1>for today? Can you clarify what you're seeking to learn?

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton, first of all, at the time, I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea he was coming and going. Huge numbers of

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<v Speaker 1>people come and go to the White House. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them come well over once, especially if they're lobbyists,

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<v Speaker 1>for example. But I didn't know he was coming, so

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly didn't know what he was coming about. Question, Mr. President.

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<v Speaker 1>After you left office, did you or your staff... Ever

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<v Speaker 1>conduct a review of records, documents, or other material related

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<v Speaker 1>to Mr. Epstein's connection to your White House? One of

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton's lawyers jumps in. You're exempting counsel. You can respond

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<v Speaker 1>to that, but don't say anything about what you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to your lawyers about. You can respond to the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheryl Mills, do you need the question again? Bill Clinton, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even understand. You mean, did we look into

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<v Speaker 1>what he did at the White House after I left office? Mr. Emmer, Mr. President.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the concerns of the committee is how Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein and Glenn Maxwell attempted or potentially attempted to curry

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<v Speaker 1>favor with influential figures. My question was, after he left office,

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<v Speaker 1>did you or your staff ever conduct a review of

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<v Speaker 1>records related to Mr. Epstein's connection to your White House? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>to the best of my knowledge, no. Question, at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to introduce what will be marked as

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<v Speaker 1>Majority Exhibit 11. And while it's being passed out, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>note for the record, this is a New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>article entitled The Untold Story of How Jeffrey Epstein Got Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>published on December 16th, 2025. And when you receive the article,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to direct your attention to the last paragraph

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<v Speaker 1>of page 31. Cheryl Mills, the last paragraph of which page?

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Emmer, 31. And when you're ready, I will also

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<v Speaker 1>read it to the record. Again, we are looking at

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<v Speaker 1>page 31 in the last paragraph. and I'll read it

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<v Speaker 1>into the record and ask you a few questions. Please

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<v Speaker 1>give him a moment to read this. Mr. President, the

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<v Speaker 1>article reads, By 1995, President Clinton and Epstein were sufficiently

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<v Speaker 1>chummy that he wrote a get-well-soon note to Epstein's ailing mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang in there, the President scrawled on a yellow post-it,

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<v Speaker 1>which Epstein saved, and we reviewed. Mr. President, did you

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<v Speaker 1>write this note? Cheryl Mills, are you asking if he

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<v Speaker 1>recalls writing a note from 1995 on a post-it? Jack Emmer, Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheryl Mills. Okay, thank you. Bill Clinton. It looks like

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<v Speaker 1>my handwriting, but I don't recall. But I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this. I've written get well notes to lots of

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<v Speaker 1>people I did not know and that I had never met. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>And you answer my next question. Did you ever meet

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein's mother or any of his family members? Answer. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that I was asked to do this

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<v Speaker 1>by Jeffrey Epstein. Question. And I want to focus specifically

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<v Speaker 1>on the article's characterization. It says that you were chummy.

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<v Speaker 1>with Mr. Epstein in 1995. Is that accurate? One of

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<v Speaker 1>his lawyers jumps in. I'm going to object to the characterization.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hearsay. The president may answer. Bill Clinton, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't surprised by that. Question, let's talk about your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with Mr. Epstein after you left the White House. Bill Clinton, okay. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you characterize your relationship with Mr. Epstein? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>during that time, I was, it was cordial. Question, at

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<v Speaker 1>any time, would you characterize Mr. Epstein as a friend? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>we were friendly, but I didn't know him well enough

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<v Speaker 1>to be saying we were friends. Question, how often did

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<v Speaker 1>you communicate with Mr. Epstein? Answer, usually only on trips.

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<v Speaker 1>I did go to his house once, as you know. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll discuss that further later on today. And how

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<v Speaker 1>did you typically communicate with Mr. Epstein? Did you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him on the phone? Answer, Cheryl Mills jumps in,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me. He just said he talked to him on

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<v Speaker 1>the trips, so that's in person. Bill Clinton, typically my

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<v Speaker 1>staff communicated with him. I think it was mostly Mr. Band,

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<v Speaker 1>but somebody talked to him. Question, and you mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>you visited one of his properties, but outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>work on the foundation and your trips, how many times

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<v Speaker 1>did you meet in person with Mr. Epstein? Cheryl Mills,

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<v Speaker 1>you're asking best of his recollection. Answer, by Bill Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the trips, I believe he came to the

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<v Speaker 1>office once in Harlem. I was still housed up there then,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he paid a brief visit to the office,

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<v Speaker 1>and I paid a brief visit to his house. But

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<v Speaker 1>I once thought he was there, but now that I

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, I don't think he was, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was it. I mean, that's what I remember. Question, and

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned you visited Mr. Epstein's house. Are you referring

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<v Speaker 1>to his New York townhouse? Answer, yes. Question, in your

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<v Speaker 1>communication with Mr. Epstein, did you ever have any communications

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<v Speaker 1>that were not related to the foundation? Answer, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe we ever talked about anything, but the work we

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<v Speaker 1>were doing. I mean, maybe small talk. I can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the conversations. Question, and for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>before we move on, did you ever communicate with Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein that related to young women or girls? Answer, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheryl Mills jumps in. Excuse me, do you have? And

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<v Speaker 1>gets cut off by Jack Emmer. Yes, ma'am. So now

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<v Speaker 1>we have speaker number three. Good morning, Mr. President. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Bill Clinton, I'm fine. Question, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>first start out by asking you, have you ever been

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<v Speaker 1>or traveled on or as Huma Abedin ever traveled on

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's plane? If you know, Bill Clinton, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>She might have taken one of the trips with us,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. Question, okay, so have you flown

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane with her? Bill Clinton, oh, several times. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>several times. Cheryl Mills jumps in, can you say you

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<v Speaker 1>have flown on a plane, any plane? Question, the Lolita Express.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheryl Mills, what's that? When you say that? Question, have

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<v Speaker 1>you flown on the Lolita Express with Jeffrey Epstein? To that,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an objection. Bill Clinton, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that is. Question, have you flown on Jeffrey Epstein's plane

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<v Speaker 1>with Huma Abedin? Objection, asked and answered. You may answer again.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton, I don't know. I don't remember. I have flown.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been sort of a part of our family for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time. So when I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East, which I don't think I ever took a

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<v Speaker 1>plane ride with Jeffrey Epstein. But she would typically go

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<v Speaker 1>when I did. Question. So have you traveled with both

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<v Speaker 1>of them together? Answer. Excuse me? Both of whom, Congresswoman? Question.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. Have you traveled with Jeffrey Epstein or Huma

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<v Speaker 1>Abedin together? Bill Clinton. I don't know. Question. Okay. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>If the staff can please pass out EFTA 0021628 and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the documents, I have them print regarding

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<v Speaker 1>passports to the President and Council. Emmer. This will be

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<v Speaker 1>Exhibit 12. Cheryl Mills. Thank you. Thank you very much. Question. Mr. President,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the passport page, the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the document should show the EFTA number. It's 00021628. Bill Clinton. Yeah. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a name on there. Would you be able to

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<v Speaker 1>read that name to me? Cheryl Mills. Can you read

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<v Speaker 1>the name? One of the lawyers jumps in. Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you ask me if I have ever seen the

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<v Speaker 1>document before? Question. Yeah, well, this is evidence, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask him specifically, so it's from the

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<v Speaker 1>DOJ document release, right? Answer, I understand, but he may

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<v Speaker 1>not have seen it, or he may have seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton, no, I have never seen it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a passport. Question, okay, can you tell me

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<v Speaker 1>the name that's listed on the passport? Cheryl Mills, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>he's never seen the document. Would you just read the name, please? Answer, question, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the name is Marius Robert. Answer, Marius Robert, yeah. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>are you familiar with that name at all? Answer, no. Question, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you be able to identify the individual in the photo? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like Jeffrey Epstein. Question, okay. The reason I

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<v Speaker 1>ask you about this specifically is because I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>that Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence operative. And so this

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<v Speaker 1>was a passport that was actually entered and released by

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice. But this was an FBI filing

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<v Speaker 1>that was found in his safe, if you will. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's an alias. The reason that I ask you that

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<v Speaker 1>is because given your nature and position, I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>you were essentially targeted by a honeypot operation and or

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<v Speaker 1>by intelligence to gather information. So that's why I asked

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<v Speaker 1>the question. Bill Clinton, is there a question? His lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>jumps in. No, you can ask a question. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>person doing the questioning jumps back in. Well, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>getting to more, but that's the reason I asked that.

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<v Speaker 1>My next question for you is, have you ever contacted

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<v Speaker 1>or had contact with an individual by the name of

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<v Speaker 1>Shantae Davies? Bill Clinton, I believe Shantae, that's a distinctive name,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that's the name of one of his

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<v Speaker 1>flight attendants. Question, okay, she's been described on being on

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<v Speaker 1>a 2002 Africa trip and provided massages. Was she or

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<v Speaker 1>any other young female on that trip underage at the time?

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton, not that I'm aware of. Question, okay, did

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<v Speaker 1>you ever receive a massage or have physical contact from

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<v Speaker 1>her or anyone else on that trip? Bill Clinton, you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the pictures. There was one time When I was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting up and I got a back rub, a neck rub. Question. Okay. Answer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Shantae did it, but I'm not sure. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever visit Epstein's Little St. James Island? Answer. No. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Virginia Roberts, who has testified to seeing you

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<v Speaker 1>on the island with two young girls. Did this occur

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<v Speaker 1>at all? Answer. No. Question. Why do you think she'd

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<v Speaker 1>make that claim? An objection now by the lawyers. Objection. Speculation.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't possibly... Back to the person doing the questioning.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever met her? Any other Epstein-associated underage girl?

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<v Speaker 1>Answer by Clinton, not to my knowledge. Question okay. In

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's 2016 deposition, unsealed in the TOJ files, he refused

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<v Speaker 1>to answer if you were accompanied by two young women

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<v Speaker 1>who were approximately 18 years old on the island. Were

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<v Speaker 1>any such women potentially underage with you? I know you

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<v Speaker 1>stated that you were not there, but did you have

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<v Speaker 1>any interaction with the set of people? Another objection. Objection

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<v Speaker 1>to the foundation of the question. He's already stated he

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<v Speaker 1>was not on the island. You're now asking about a

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<v Speaker 1>claim of the Fifth Amendment by Jeffrey Epstein. Question, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Would the staff be able? Jack Emmer, if the witness

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know, the witness is welcome to say that he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know. Cheryl Mills, but he actually answered the question.

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<v Speaker 1>He answered the question that he wasn't on the island,

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<v Speaker 1>so then she was asked. Question, okay. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe so. Question, okay. There have obviously been claims

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<v Speaker 1>made about you, and I do not believe that these

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<v Speaker 1>claims are credible. The reason I'm asking you specifically about

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<v Speaker 1>the name is because that individual stated that you're on

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<v Speaker 1>sex tapes, okay? It was unfounded, and it was discredited.

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<v Speaker 1>But given how politicized this investigation is, do you believe

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<v Speaker 1>that it would be appropriate of members of the committee

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<v Speaker 1>to bring in witnesses, whether it's about you or another president?

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<v Speaker 1>that have unfounded allegations regarding sexual claims of misconduct? Bill Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a decision for me to make. Question, as

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<v Speaker 1>a recommendation in regards to avoiding trafficking, etc., and bringing

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<v Speaker 1>justice for victims, would you make that recommendation to the committee? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>by his lawyer, just so I understand the question. You're

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<v Speaker 1>saying if the witness has unfounded claims? Question, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe that Sarah Ransom's claims about the president are founded.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that there are sex tapes with you,

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<v Speaker 1>President Clinton. His lawyer, no, I'm just asking about your question.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not asking if somebody with plausible claims could be

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<v Speaker 1>Question correct, because these claims were founded or found to

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<v Speaker 1>be unfounded by investigators. Cheryl Mills, so you're asking his opinion? Answer, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're trying to figure out in regards to being

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<v Speaker 1>going to be interviewing other individuals regarding sex trafficking. avoiding

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. I know that you and your wife

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<v Speaker 1>have both been big on the issue. So I'm asking you,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that it would be appropriate that this

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<v Speaker 1>committee bring in someone like Sarah Ransom, who has unfounded

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<v Speaker 1>claims that have been debunked in this investigation? It's a

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<v Speaker 1>simple question. Cheryl Mills, he answered the question when you

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<v Speaker 1>first asked it, and then he said it wasn't for

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<v Speaker 1>him to make those decisions. Question, well, I'm asking for

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<v Speaker 1>his recommendation to the committee and follow up. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a gotcha question. This is obviously a very serious investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton, well, first of all, I recommend that you

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<v Speaker 1>have on your staff a prosecutor who's had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of experience in dealing with the cases. Normally, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea to bring in a witness that you

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<v Speaker 1>know is lying. Question, okay, thank you for that. My

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<v Speaker 1>last question for you is, are you familiar with anyone

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Adriana Ross? Answer, I don't think so. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>how about Sarah Kellan? Answer, I don't think so. Question, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you recommend that this committee bring in individuals that

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<v Speaker 1>were listed as trafficking minors? They were listed co-conspirators and

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<v Speaker 1>then given plea deals. Answer. I don't know enough about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think you should do whatever you think will

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<v Speaker 1>strengthen the ability of the U.S. not to have this

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<v Speaker 1>happen again. Question. Okay. Is it possible in your opinion

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<v Speaker 1>that you or your wife were targeted as a means

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<v Speaker 1>of an intelligence gathering operation? Objection by the lawyer. Object

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<v Speaker 1>to the form of question. Question picks back up by

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn. Again, object to the form of

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<v Speaker 1>the question. No objection to if he knows that they

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<v Speaker 1>were targeted. I believe that's what she asked. No, she

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<v Speaker 1>said it's possible. Speaker 5 jumps in. No, she said

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible. So she's asking him to speculate instead of

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<v Speaker 1>asking him, does he know? Bill Clinton, I don't, but

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Emmer jumps in. Okay, Bill Clinton, I don't. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>sort of be surprised, but I don't. I don't know. Question, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Chairman Comer, I think that yields my time.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say thank you very much, President Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>for coming in. And I do understand that this has

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<v Speaker 1>been politicized, but again, I'll state on the record, and

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<v Speaker 1>I will state to this press, that I do not

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<v Speaker 1>believe that Sarah Killen's claims against you were valid. Bill Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up

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<v Speaker 1>right here, and then we're going to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>it in the next episode dealing with the topic. All

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