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from August sixteenth, nineteen fifty here is Cornered Rats Always Squeal.
Speaker 2: The Big Story. That's all I have, gentlemen. Just these
watches you see in the case, and these rings and
none of them suit you.
Speaker 3: Uh think I want something better, maybe with little diamonds
on it. Let's see some of your more expensive stuff.
I got nothing in the store just now. Don't you
remember we were in last week? He showed us some
of those buttes in the tray right over there. You
gotta remember, Marrow, sure, Oh, big tray for them.
Speaker 2: I remember when I see I don't think there's any left,
but I see you stand there. I know what you want.
I'm going to call the police.
Speaker 4: Not a good idea, lavement.
Speaker 2: Do you think I won't shoot this gun if I
have to?
Speaker 4: I think you might pop if I gave you a chance.
They start, stop it stops. Yeah, I guess you're right.
It's kind of dead.
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. From the pages of the Pittsburgh Press comes
the story of reporter who used the code of the
underworld even though it turned his stomach to do so. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
The story as it actually happened, Chester Potter's story as
he lived it. The first killing was of a jeweler
named Emmanuel Liebman. He was found dead with eight bullets
in his body, sprawled behind his kneet counter with an
unfired gun in his hand.
Speaker 6: It was one of those things.
Speaker 7: Eight shots fired at nine point thirty in the morning
in the Hazelwood section of Pittsburgh, and no one heard
a shot, No one had seen anything. You got to
the store, you fifty one year old Chet Potter of
the Pittsburgh Press, twenty nine years on this kind of thing,
and twenty nine.
Speaker 8: Years of hating it.
Speaker 7: Not the work, but the facts ab our people that
you got to report. And in the past seven years
you've gotten yourself a nickname. You don't like, No Conviction Potter.
They call you at the paper and at headquarters because
the last twelve stories you were on no conviction.
Speaker 8: This looks like one of your specialties.
Speaker 6: Putters hau very funny. You mean no conviction?
Speaker 9: Well, as the assistant district attorney, I haven't got an
opinion yet for publication, that is, But it's just playing
Jack Boudreau.
Speaker 8: This is a no conviction if I ever saw one, How.
Speaker 10: Could it be? What were the eight shots fired? Nobody
heard anything? No, Well, he must have run out of
the store. Somebody must have seen him.
Speaker 8: Well nobody did.
Speaker 6: What kind of family is there?
Speaker 4: You're going to like this wife and five kids.
Speaker 6: What about the stoolies? Anything doing there?
Speaker 8: Well, even if somebody were to talk, what's the to
tie to it? Nothing? No witnesses, no gun, just eight
thirty eight caliber.
Speaker 7: Slugs the guy with five cutes, just because the Assistant
district Attorney, Jack Boudreau said, even if the stoolies talked,
what is that to tie it with?
Speaker 6: You didn't let it rest there.
Speaker 8: That was the way you were.
Speaker 7: You saw the family talk to the three wide eyed
girls and the two days boys, the inconsolable widow. You
made the rounds, pushed, pro yanked, asked questions, and you've
got just where you've gotten on your last twelve stories.
No conviction, no suspects, nowhere. Then sixteen months go by,
the second killing had this much in common with the first.
Speaker 8: Eight shots were also.
Speaker 7: Fired an enormous quantity of lead poort into the body
of a man named Cheach, a driver for a robbery gang.
A man named Cheach who hangs out of life despite
eight thirty eight caliber slugs in his body.
Speaker 6: Who did it, teacher?
Speaker 4: Get me a drink of water?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, just suck on the straw. Who was it?
Speaker 8: Look?
Speaker 4: You would to know me?
Speaker 6: Better.
Speaker 11: Your friend Boutro's over there in the corner. He ain't asking,
he ain't asking questions. Let me alone.
Speaker 10: Come on, Keach, I don't care one hood about you.
But when that kind of led is poured into two people,
maybe the same guy did it. Now, Look, Keach, you're
gonna die. You're gonna die soon, and you're gonna die hard.
Give yourself a quarter of a chance to get some
peace before you get out of here.
Speaker 11: My mamma told me a long time ago. Don't talk
to cops and don't talk the cop reporters.
Speaker 4: Give me the water chat.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, totally underworld something like that, But there
are exceptions. I mean it.
Speaker 9: There's a nice, quiet talking type of the name of
Tommy Carr out of my office. I just came up
here for the routine confirmation. Is it any there being none?
Maybe will adjourn and listen to Tommy Carr. Oh, Keach,
I hope it doesn't hurt you too much?
Speaker 4: Rough dead.
Speaker 7: Yeah, mister Thomas Carr is a louse from way back.
Speaker 8: How old is he?
Speaker 4: Thirty four? Twenty nine years a loss since he was.
Speaker 7: Five, And now the louse picked up on a robbery
charge is talking true to his character.
Speaker 12: On the job was well planned. I got to say
that first payroll was like twenty nine dollars. See, it
was for us. I got to get the boys real credit.
You know, Meryll, the kid he's been studying up. He
planted he's the place too quickly. Time in is on
the paymaster and et cetera. Keach, well, he wasn't cut
on his brain. See but trust with k you know
what I mean, always did a good job when he
was told what to do. He's still hanging on. Amazing
these young kids. The stamina they cut eight slugs in them.
Gotta give them credit on come on.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So anyway, Keach got a kind of little greedy.
Speaker 12: He taught the fourth he was supposed to get wasn't
enough on the kind of how he was taking big
the chances and etc. So he puts a gun on
Meryl puts a gun on him.
Speaker 6: And that's that fight among you guys. Is that it?
Speaker 4: Well, guys are very funny.
Speaker 12: You know, you put twenty nine thousand dollars on the
table between four crooks.
Speaker 4: A lot of trouble can come out of that.
Speaker 8: And you were one of the four.
Speaker 12: Oh no, mister Boudro. You know what you got on me?
What chance have I got? I'm a parole. I'm not
supposed to be associated with this kind of folks. You
gotta right to send me back for thirteen years right now.
I don't deny it. I didn't shoot Keach Merylton that
you cops one egg.
Speaker 4: In your beer?
Speaker 12: What are you telling us all this for? Well, it's
like this scene. First of all, I turned state Sevance
the da. He says, like he always says, I can
promise you're no special consideration. But at the same time,
while he's saying that, in the back of his mind,
he's kind of grateful to me in a way.
Speaker 4: You see.
Speaker 12: I mean I make convictions easier and etc. So who
knows you might be a little lighter on me. And
the second is that parbe what I got to go before.
I know those guys, they're like a fellow who's.
Speaker 4: Cooperated, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I heard you were kind of a nice, kind of
a love Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: Now, let's see. You want the other member of the gang.
I told you there was fourth.
Speaker 12: That's me and Marilyn Ketch and the fourth the fourth
is Noonan seventy five twenty five.
Speaker 4: Noonan. We call him that on account of that's the
cudios trying, so we know, we know.
Speaker 6: Come on, well, now.
Speaker 12: If I can make a suggestion to you, I think
this is going to surprise you. I'd pick up Noonan
on the robbery, but for TenneT twenty at least.
Speaker 4: But if you stop here, you'd be missing a bed.
Speaker 8: How's that?
Speaker 12: What je happened to remember? Kind of a jeweler by
the name of Emmanuel Liebman.
Speaker 6: What about Lee?
Speaker 12: Well, nobody thought about Noanan and living today. Now, now
I can't say exactly that Noan shot him since I
didn't say him to it. Only well I asked him,
mister Tenney eight seventy five twenty five, well known for
the way he keeps squeezing the.
Speaker 8: Trick he was saying, Nolan did it.
Speaker 12: Well, all I know is the morning got that showed
in like fifteen twenty minutes after it happened. I got
a phone call from Nonan and he says, I'm in
trouble fed card.
Speaker 4: So I says, compile, I'll help you.
Speaker 6: No, you helped him, all right, you helped him? Fine?
Speaker 12: What kept my mouth shut sixteen months without saying a
word tonight.
Speaker 4: What's somebody you don't like my testimony?
Speaker 9: Mister all right, all right, I want a statement on
all this car signed. I don't want you suddenly discovering
and then he broke your arm to get it out
of here.
Speaker 4: It's fair with Tony. I may be a Stoley, but
nobody says I ever went back on my word.
Speaker 12: If you want the real Frank Drot, I was wondering
how come you didn't have a secretary in here, in etc.
Speaker 4: To take it down? As I was telling you, I
got to repeat the whole thing. O.
Speaker 7: Merrill is picked up and nonan and car locked away.
And for this kind of expert information, a good crook
always knows precisely what is needed for a short conviction.
The robbery charge is slapped on hould them why they
try to prove the murder and out of it comes
Theodore Merril.
Speaker 13: You are sentenced to the State Penitentiary for a term
of not less than twenty and not more than forty years.
David Noonan, you are sentenced to the State Penitentiary for
complicity and murder in the second degree thirty to sixty years.
Thomas Carr, you are sentenced to return to the county
jail to serve out the balance of your unexpired sentence
of thirteen years for violation of parole.
Speaker 7: Heach dies Marilyn Noonan go to the Western Penitentiary and
car smiling because he knows that to the county jail
and easy life awaiting the other cases he's consented to
sing about.
Speaker 4: I ain't such a dope, how am I? Even if
I in a very nice guy?
Speaker 7: And you lose your nickname, Chet Potter no more, no
conviction Potter. Three convictions in one day this time, and
you ought to be glad. But something about this loos
who has put himself and two others behind bars, turns
your stomach. There ought to be satisfaction in this for you,
but there is because you remember the three girls of
a manual Liebman, the jeweler. You remember the faces of
his sons, his wife are words you want to get
this louse.
Speaker 4: If you can.
Speaker 6: Not for parole violation. No, that's not enough.
Speaker 14: But how as.
Speaker 7: Long as there's crime, as long as there are desperate
men and women who take desperate chances, there'll be a
code of ethics.
Speaker 8: You know this well.
Speaker 7: Jet Potter twenty nine years on the police run. And
you know the code of ethics is a false one,
a false code of loyalty to self, of loyalty to crime.
And you also know that as long as there is
such a code, there will be betrayals of.
Speaker 4: The code, because it's profitable to betray in crime.
Speaker 7: And they will always be rats, singers, talkers, Stooley's like
Thomas Carr.
Speaker 4: How I know that nor to not.
Speaker 12: Dorp this jeweler, mister attorneys, this, how I know for
an absolute, absolute fact.
Speaker 7: And as long as there are such men, you hate them.
And as you're doing now, not for the love of
other criminals, but for the hate of this one, you
catch them if you can. So you go to Noonan,
the accused new Nonan, who was serving thirty years for
complicity and second degree murder.
Speaker 4: Look at my hand, Look at it.
Speaker 12: I stayed here all day yesterday and the day before,
smacking my palm with my other hand.
Speaker 6: Well, just what are you telling me him? You didn't
kill Liebman, you didn't shoot the jeweler.
Speaker 15: Telling you telling you, I'm telling you nothing. I'm telling
nobody nothing. He ain't fit to die a decent debt, mister,
I don't know what kind of connections you've got, But
get that dog put in here five minutes. Let him
walk in the yard five minutes. It won't be me,
not Mari Needer, who we read it on. Just let
him walk in the yard. That's the only kind of
thing he deserves. I asked you, did you do it?
What do you want? My word against the stoolies? Cops
like stoolies. Don't you know what you get? Mister got
thirty years to live, I.
Speaker 6: Got nothing to lose.
Speaker 4: What have I got to light here for? I didn't
do it.
Speaker 15: If I could get my hands on that dog, maybe
i'd stop hitting myself at least. You know something, mister,
A lot of guys in here would say a lot
of nice things.
Speaker 4: About you if you could.
Speaker 6: Oh that doesn't interest me.
Speaker 4: I know that. But maybe you got your own reasons.
I don't care what the uh, Just get.
Speaker 7: A it's a curious thing. But actually, you chet potter
reporter have no real good reasons to get this man.
Because between Car and Noonan at six of one and
half a dozen of another, between Carr and Merrill and
the others sent up choose between a stooley and a gunman,
rationally you can't, and yet you want to, in the bitterest,
most vindictive sense of the word.
Speaker 6: You want to.
Speaker 4: Get this rap, this stooley, the squealer, this louse.
Speaker 6: You've been making the rounds of place.
Speaker 4: It's quite a lot, now, haven't you on him?
Speaker 6: Who told you? Yeah, what's the difference?
Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you if I had it to
give you, and give it to yourself fast to make
his head spin.
Speaker 8: And he's as dirty as they come.
Speaker 4: And I can tell you this out of private experience.
He don't make the mistake.
Speaker 2: Thanks, not his time.
Speaker 10: Well we'll see about that anyhow. Thanks, you'll see about that.
No mistakes.
Speaker 7: And so you keep at it talking to hard eyed man,
watching young fighters coming into the fight game, young drifters
who hang around wherever a buck can be from motor.
Speaker 12: Car for pleasure, for pleasure, mister, Remember that hold up
in the gas station on South Pennsylvania breaking an entry?
Speaker 4: What was that?
Speaker 6: Two years ago?
Speaker 12: In nineteen forty seven, card downs two orders disappeared off
lots here, the Chevy and a pontiaccident. September forty eight,
card down it two drunks were rolled coming out of
the Elite Club January sixth nineteen fifty.
Speaker 4: This year card down it. You'll write that out, give
me the paper.
Speaker 7: It's good, but it's not good enough. So what had
two years add three years or five? He's got thirteen already. No,
this case warrants more than the difference between thirteen and
eighteen years.
Speaker 4: Then unexpectedly mischieff for guide. Don't tell his name, but
he tells you something.
Speaker 6: Okay, that depends a car, It still depends. All right.
Speaker 4: There's a guy who wants to talk to you.
Speaker 9: He's in Western Penitentiary, but he wants to talk to
somebody outside.
Speaker 4: His name is Merrill.
Speaker 6: The other one car read it on.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 7: He's got a real warm story, real warm.
Speaker 4: Nona never did it.
Speaker 16: Noonan had nothing to do with the killing the leebman
that Jeula got killed by somebody else.
Speaker 4: He went to the store about nine thirty. When the
jewel went back to get his gun, he didn't wait.
He shut him eight times. Oh who do you think car?
What car? Why else do you think he's ratting to
cover his own stinking self? Up?
Speaker 6: Okay, let's go on from here. All I got so
far is your word Bridge.
Speaker 4: I told you didn't I you're on the outside. You
can prove it. You can do it. I told you
it's a fact. Noona never done it.
Speaker 7: It was car all away, car your wait, but there's
no more, nothing want to come. This desperate man has
had his desperate say and he's not saying anything further.
And so you take it since you're on the outside,
and maybe you can find the proof. To the assistant
district attorney to Jack Boudreau, Sure.
Speaker 8: I like it.
Speaker 9: I like it fine. I think it's true. But I
think something else too.
Speaker 6: What's that?
Speaker 4: Look?
Speaker 9: These two guys, Marilyn Noonan got thirty to sixty years
ahead of him based on cars testimony. Why shouldn't they
say he did it, discredit him whether we like him
or not. And I don't this boy. Car is our prize.
It's on this boy's word. Those men are in jail.
Why don't you do what Noonan suggested? Put him in
Western penn for a couple of days. Nah, although it
be left as shreds, we wouldn't get the proof he
killed the jeweler. You wouldn't get anything except a little
screaming by the Reform Party and the legislature for not
protecting our inmates. No, I need this guy. I'm keeping
him in the county jail. He's good for at least
six more sessions songs.
Speaker 10: I mean, look, Meryl, try to understand this. I took
what you told me to where it ought to go,
and I got nowhere with it. I need more, more information, more.
Speaker 4: Facts, prone I told you. What do you want me
to say? I told you how? What happened?
Speaker 10: Paula got is your statement? And brother, you've got a record.
As long as you are high, what do you think
your statement is worth it?
Speaker 6: He killed a guy.
Speaker 10: As long as you stick to that, he's going to
stay right where he is, laughing at you and maybe
waiting until Noonan burns.
Speaker 4: There was two guys on a job.
Speaker 16: They took a bus and number nineteen bus to Franklin,
having me about half a block from the jewelry store.
Speaker 6: They got out.
Speaker 4: It was going on nine fifteen.
Speaker 16: The job was set for nine point thirty as a
little one arm placed two stores away from the jewelry store.
Speaker 8: They went in.
Speaker 16: One of the guys had coffee with a roller, other
had coffee with a cinnamon bun. The waitress sergeant was
a short girl, kind of dumpy, with dark skin and
big blue eyes. Where's the hair in a bun of names?
Francis that kind of stuff you want?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 6: Yep? Go and you're doing fine.
Speaker 4: After the coffee, they went in the store.
Speaker 16: The counter is on the right side with the cheap stuff,
and it in the second counter in the.
Speaker 8: Back of the right angles.
Speaker 16: I was empty and stumps in the back of that
with a handle on the right side of the door.
When Leeman twisted the handle downuts when he came up
with a gun in his hand, and Car squeeze the
trigger and he keeps on squeezing it till a guy falls.
And the two of them ran out and got on
the bus. And I'm a nineteen bus going the other way.
Speaker 6: Wow, that's quite a statement. That kind of detail could
maybe send a guy to the chair. Why are you
telling me this, Meryl?
Speaker 4: What do you mean because I want to get the dog?
Speaker 6: No, I don't mean that.
Speaker 10: I mean why are you telling me you were the
other guy in the store, the guy with car.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you.
Speaker 16: First off, I like Noonan, and even though he's going
to stay in here, I don't want Noonon to go
for this.
Speaker 4: He didn't do it. And second off, if they was
to try noonan on what car said.
Speaker 16: They'd never get a conviction, and they'd sweat car route
and sooner or later that Lau said talk and he'd
say I did it sooner or later.
Speaker 4: So I let him get away with saying I did
that one. He and I did it.
Speaker 10: Oh, no, crazy walk sort away. It makes good sense.
Now I'll see what I can do.
Speaker 7: You're cautious now, because you've got to be.
Speaker 8: Because this is betrayal of the betrayer.
Speaker 7: Maybe there's another twist coming and it'll shift the whole
thing back and the double cross. I will try to
double cross the man who double crossed him, and car
does that.
Speaker 4: I should have heard that one. I should have been
rassed when he said it.
Speaker 12: He's a smart kid, that Meryl go a long way
if you don't kill him faced. So we learned that
if you put a story with plenty of details in it,
like like what the guy he ate, where the gun was,
how many shots was fired, et cetera.
Speaker 4: These young kids.
Speaker 12: They're smart, real smart. You only think about it, You
only think about it. I got so many alibi, such
a lot tisto since took.
Speaker 7: But Jack Boudreau, the assistant district attorney doesn't smile, and
Carl laughs, and neither do you. Instead, you bring them
together in the jewelry stall, the two desperate men who
have betrayed each other.
Speaker 6: Car and Meryl.
Speaker 4: Look, keep them away from me, Will you just keep away?
Speaker 9: Nobody's gonna bother your car? Okay, maryn I'll talk. Okay.
Speaker 4: Where I stood?
Speaker 16: He stood over there, right near the counter, the old
guy Liban, He was over there.
Speaker 4: Okay, if I walk over him, okay.
Speaker 16: He took out the trade from here right here, slid
it out on the top of the counter, and Car says,
we don't want the cheap stuff, we want the more expensive.
Speaker 4: What an imagination, kid?
Speaker 16: So the old guy walks back here and says, I
haven't got any, only a few.
Speaker 4: He turns around with a gun in his hand.
Speaker 16: And you started shooting, Car, and I said stop it,
stop shooting. And you kept on with that look on
your face, pumping at pumping it, pumping it.
Speaker 9: Well, Car, the dirty liar, miss take a good look.
If you're will at these men, you ever see them
before together?
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 16: I sat on the first store, right here by the register,
and he was next to me. You ordered a roll
in coffee, and I say what kind of buns you got?
And you said, we got nice cinnamon buns. And I said,
give me one. You had on a pair of coral
earrings that morning, and I said where'd you get those?
I'd like to get my girl a set. And you
said the five and ten. And I said what's your name?
Speaker 4: And I said Francy. No, I remember them, the two
of them, both of them. He asked for his coffee light.
Speaker 6: What do you say now, car a dirty liar.
Speaker 16: We got off the number nineteen bus about a half
of block from here, walked through the middle of the
bridge window and was looking right near a bank here.
Speaker 4: Drop the gun in, dredge it and you'll find it.
Speaker 8: We well, we'll dredge.
Speaker 16: And when you get it, I'll identify it as his gun,
and there'll be six guys I can name wholl identified.
Speaker 4: It'll be empty. Every show fire, you're dirty, sto oh
your old car. Listen, it is stooly, cooling, stooly.
Speaker 7: And there it is a stool pigeon stool Bernie in
desperate anger at the man he tried to betray. Here
it is the full cycle, the code of the Jungle,
The ethics of desperation.
Speaker 6: Wow, we read you that telegram from Chester Potter of
the Pittsburgh Press. The killers in tonight's Big Story were
brought to swift trial. I was the first witness to
testify for the prosecution, and despite defense attorney's arguments and please,
both killers finally pleaded guilty and were quickly convicted. Both
received life sentences at Western Penitentiary.
Speaker 17: In order to protect the names of people actually involved
in the knights at that a Big Story, the names
of all characters in the gronversation were changed, with the
exception of the newspaper reporter.
Speaker 7: This is the United States Armed Forces Radio Service.
Speaker 1: Welcome back. Here's the cast of this week's episode. Mister
Potter was played by Bill Smith, and everyone in the
cast doubled. Not Bob Sloan in this one, but everyone else,
including Bill Smith, who also played the murder victims. The
others in the cast Jones, Shay Larry Haynes, Bill Lipton,
George Petrie, and Joe DeSantis. I did chuckle a bit
when you had Patriot playing Bordeaux, because so many of
us remember him as Markham and his voice had the
same quality, so it was like a more competent version
of Da Markham from Filo Vance. Now we don't have
any real life insights on this case. This is another
episode where the stories behind the Big Story website notes
the original story has been identified summary to be available soon,
but no summary available at the time of this recording.
So I guess commenting on the story as a story,
I think that at its core, the episode is about
and kind of glosses over the sort of conflicting feeling
that many have about the whole issue of informants. It's
not too conflicted for Potter. He says like I hate
the informants, the squealers, the stool pigeons. Nevertheless, they are
an important tool that law enforcement and prosecutors are able
to get even more dangerous people off the street, although
this shows how that can be abused. I did also
think it was a little bit weird for them to
bide him because his cases were going unsolved. Yeah, it
would be one thing if that were his job, but
that is technically the job of the police. I mean,
this isn't like baseball where you start to think, I
wonder if that reporter is jigsy us. No, that's not
our law enforcement works. Not at least how it should work.
All right, Well, now it's time to thank our Patreon
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Speaker 6: Hey what kept?
Speaker 4: Yes? What is it?
Speaker 6: Your name?
Speaker 17: Floyd Gilmour? What it is?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 17: I'm Danny Clover police. You might have I come in?
Speaker 4: Well? What for?
Speaker 17: It's about John Dobson. I understand.
Speaker 4: What about Joe?
Speaker 17: Something's happened to him. Might die. Yeah, you better come
in in here. He might die. He's been poisoned. He's
found a while ago in his car.
Speaker 4: Joe.
Speaker 17: I just talked to his wife. She said he'd been
with you. Oh John never got here. Oh no matter,
don't you believe me? What was he coming to see you?
Speaker 6: Bus?
Speaker 17: I ask you something? Don't you believe me? I told
you John never got I asked you something too. He
was coming over to see me. That so what for
to borrow a book? Played chess one? You can take fingerprints, mister.
I'm telling you John wasn't here. It's going to be
pretty tough to prove, mister Gilmore. John Dobson had plenty
of time to be here, be poisoned and leave be
poison You mean me murdered. If John Dobson dies, it'll
be murdered. I'll tell you why he came here. Came here?
He said, he didn't all right? So I got mixed up.
I got a quirk. I get my conjugations mixed when
I'm under mental stress. Why you want to listen to
me or want to call me a liar and arrest me?
Do what you want, mister, go ahead and tell me
your story. I had a friend I wanted John to me.
Speaker 6: Mind.
Speaker 17: I asked why John doesn't get along with his wife.
She didn't approve of his outside interest. You were going
to introduce him to an outside interest. Well, this girl,
it's this friend of mine is nice kid, same kind
of personalities. John, Huh, that's right. Pretty sure this friend
of mine was well fetching is the word that as
pretty as Edna, not nearly as pretty as Jones' wife.
Why I can never understand that about John? A beautiful
wife like Edna all er Doe. Why he had so
many outside interests? Why you should? Where do I find
this friend of yours? Isabel at the New Howard Hotel.
Ask for Isabelle Martin. Mister alright, I'm sorry, Helly, we
couldn't make it tonight.
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