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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka colored a podcast from the Mac

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of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor

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Chrysler Dots Jupe ram It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank

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you for telling a friend.

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Speaker 3: That's how we spread the word about the pirate ship.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm excited about today.

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes a small innocent moment on the Internet

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accidentally opens a full blown existential conversation.

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Speaker 4: Full blown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: A few weeks ago, a friend of mine, someone you

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may remember from the podcast, posted something on Facebook that

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fell simple enough.

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Speaker 2: It really did.

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Speaker 3: She wrote that she had two beautiful, successful girlfriends who

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couldn't find a man. They were fun, loyal, smart, and single.

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She asked interested men to comment, not message, and said

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the women would browse Facebook and reach out if they

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found someone intriguing. YEP, it already feels like a really

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bold experiment to me, and kind of like a group project.

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None of us asked for what happened next. Over two

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hundred and fifty comments, not DM's comments.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to pull up the total views because I

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can see that internally?

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Speaker 2: Okay, how you keep going public?

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Speaker 3: Men putting them out there themselves out there, women watching quietly,

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married friends grabbing popcorn. They were all on there, group chats,

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lighting up like it was a live sporting event.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen thousand local people, holy shit, clicked red stock.

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Speaker 4: But didn't you know leave a ca so nineteen thousand.

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Speaker 5: Wow, I was at a part and people like kid

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just everybody was talking about and browsing the men.

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Speaker 2: So what does it say about dating right now?

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Speaker 3: About loneliness, about standards, about starting over in your late

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thirties and forties, when you're confident enough to know what

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you want but tired enough to not want any kind

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of bullshit. This episode isn't about answers. It's more about

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the curiosity. And Stephanie is here someone who's life changed

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in very real ways from the time we spent together

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on the podcast a couple of years ago. I don't know,

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I think this is like crazy what happened, But I'd

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rather go back to kind of to you because we

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had you on the podcast and you were one of

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the most popular people.

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Speaker 4: I had so much fun and.

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Speaker 2: You were not dating at the time.

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Speaker 5: Well I was dating.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you were dating, but you weren't serious with somebody. Yeah,

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you weren't serious with somebody, and then you met Mike,

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right yeah, and from there, I mean, that's been how

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many years now, we'll be.

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Speaker 5: Together three years May first, Wow?

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Speaker 2: A lot of time, yeah, by yeah.

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Speaker 5: And you see love coming on the show.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome any time. You know that.

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Speaker 3: There was always open, but like, and I didn't want

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to have the whole crew in for this because I

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kind of wanted to take a look at this in

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a little bit of a deeper way and I didn't

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want them, you know, well, the jokes flying.

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Speaker 5: And someone we can you on the phone set.

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Speaker 4: I don't want any penis jokes fly.

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Speaker 2: And that's I think I said. I don't want any

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dick jokes, is what. I know. I know what And

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it's just that because it's a serious thing. But going

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back to you, you're the real estate is blown up

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for you.

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Speaker 5: I saw this record sale. Wow at Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 2: Christmas Eve, I got.

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Speaker 5: An offer accepted for five point two million dollars. Oh

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my god, the personal record. So I just posted it today.

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It took me a.

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Speaker 2: Good Is that the blue House? Yes?

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Speaker 5: God, it's just beautiful where is it Canada.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm the lake yeah, oh my waterfront.

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Speaker 5: Oh but it was such a big career when I

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didn't want to brag about it. I didn't want to

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make other realtors feel bad about themselves. And I also

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didn't want normal consumers not to call me to list

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their house because I think, oh, my house is just

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four hundred. No, I would love to list your house

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after fifty whatever. Yeah, so I didn't want to push

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people away. But then so month passes, I'm like, I

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really should talk about this because this is a career milestone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I sold the five million dollar lake house a close.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's impressive.

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Speaker 4: And I love what I do. I love all price points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I understand that, and and and in real

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estate you have to write you're not you know?

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Speaker 2: Is that one you know?

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Speaker 3: Or are there people who diguess just dealing a million

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plus fro some sell.

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Speaker 4: To a year, that's it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, five million dollars lake houses, that's cruise control. Yeah,

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so I can do higher volume selling fifty and make

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more money. Sure, And a lot of people will think, oh,

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just because you sell an expensive house, you're smarter, you're better.

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You're not. It just maybe you're just you're you have connections,

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you got to all kill, you sell a couple of year,

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and you're happy you're part time. I like the grind

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and I like to help everyone, and I want to

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be busy and stop. I do twelve to eight and

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hour days in the spring and I love it. I'm

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not complaining, no, I know, and I like the grind.

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Speaker 3: I there's something about that because I had to come

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to terms myself with a lot of things in terms

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of you know, it isn't about working harder. It's definitely

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about working smarter. But when you love what you do,

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you're going to just do it all the time. And

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I think for many, many many years for me, I

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have just worked NonStop radio. I did all the time

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because I wanted to be I wanted to be the best.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be number one.

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Speaker 4: While you're pivoting, though.

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Speaker 3: I am pivoting, and I'm and I'm I'll tell you

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like I'm looking to you. I'm changing things up for sure,

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and I'm looking to combine some things and I'm looking

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to make something that is less of a service and

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more of a system and something that's scalable. So you

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know what, I mean like service to me is we're

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talking about today's news, today's sports today is.

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Speaker 2: That it's disposable. It's what radio was this.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking to pivot away from that slightly a

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little bit and do more things like this or I

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didn't help people, yes, and that's the thing, and I

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just did one.

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Speaker 2: I had a night.

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Speaker 3: Where I got extremely intoxicated the urinal night.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes. I was so drunk.

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Speaker 3: How bad I mean, I was slurring so badly in

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that video that was the opening of Damien's second location. Yeah, okay,

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so I uh so I was so drunk and there

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was so much stuff happening sort of at once that

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I was very cold to someone that I didn't mean

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to be via text, via text, and the next day

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I apologized. I got no response, and then I sent

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a text later in the day just about something completely.

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Speaker 2: Different and that's how we are. And then I.

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Speaker 3: Got a response. A couple of days I got a response,

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and the response was basically like I'm crushed, you crushed

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me or whatever it was, so which made me feel

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like piece of shit, and I backed off.

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Speaker 2: And just let I go. I don't want to apologize,

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so I started happened.

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Speaker 3: No, I understand. So I didn't want to be one

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of these I apologize.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 3: I already apologized, right, you become that To me, that's

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sort of a sign of weakness when you start doing

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that over and over. But it made me really think,

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and so I came in here and I did a

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podcast on alcohol and why it's not an excuse for

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bad behavior. Alcohol doesn't make you behave badly. It gets

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rid of your internal brake system, which is your inhibitions,

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and so you do things and say things and some

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people go, well, it's not a truth serum.

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Speaker 2: It's not. It's just in the moment.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of times we carry a lot of

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baggage as people, and when something is in front of

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you and that old baggage gets hit and you've never

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dealt with it, it carries a lot of weight and it

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comes really hard, right, And so those are the things

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that you know, And so I did a whole podcast

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on that. I'm like, this is the direction they need

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to circle.

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Speaker 5: And that's why I don't have the baggage. If you

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have it, you can get rid of it by talking

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to someone that do like a couler.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and eventually that.

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Speaker 4: Though, so you're more pleasant drunk.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's right exactly. I mean so, I don't know.

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It was just it was strange, but I thought, that's

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kind of the way I need to start doing things

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that are ever green. What if someone finds this podcast

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in five years will have value to them.

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that's where I'm that's where I'm headed,

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And I eventually want to buy a building. I want

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to put offices in there that I can rent out.

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I want to put studios in there. I want somewhat

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of an event space, and we'll.

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Speaker 2: Go from there.

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Speaker 4: I just thought of some wild idea.

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Speaker 5: What if there's people that want help, but they'd be

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willing to publicly raise their hand and you help them, Yeah,

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on the air live.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I meant it could be like a journey of their transformation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be amazing. That would be absolutely amazing.

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as a teachable.

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Speaker 5: And that would tie in with both businesses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and That's what I'm looking to do. And so

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we'll see how things go down the road. When you

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of the fact that you wrote songs.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, break up songs and all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 4: I've been writing songs with my whole life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and did nothing with them or what.

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Speaker 4: The problem is. If I'm honest, my voice is like

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a six point eight.

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Speaker 5: Out of ten. Okay, and now there's so much technology,

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just like filters with a girl looking hotter. Yeah, I

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can put filters and edit my voice. So the tech

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is here where it can be me singing and Mike

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actually does it in the background, adjusting my voice to

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sound good like auto tuning, but you don't want it

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to sound fake. And then there's me training it where

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I'll like work on a couple of notes then he

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Speaker 4: So it took forever.

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Speaker 5: It was a year and a half, a year and

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a half to to write. So I have breakup songs,

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I have songs about getting old and what it's like

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to go at the bar. But I actually wrote a

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song about loss, like losing a child, or you could

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apply it to losing like a love, like a spouse

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or a partner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: When you say loss, like are you talking death? Are

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you talking all different kinds of so even loss of

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like a divorce or a right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's not a lot of songs about like,

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for example, if you have a miscarriage, you know, or

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you lose a two year old, what what song do

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you jam out to? And I know that sounds weird,

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but when I'm in pain, I like to belt, cry

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and sing. And the Arms of the Angel just isn't

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getting it, like it's it's kind of lame.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: There's a song Bonnie Rape put out recently.

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Speaker 4: Oh I listened to the same old eighties rock.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no, but she put out recently and

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that is I think.

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Speaker 2: It was about what I thought it was about a

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missing break up. Oh no, you know what this song

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was about.

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Speaker 3: This song is about the loss of a son or

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a daughter and having their organs donated and then the

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person come back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if she wrote it. Yeah, I'm gonna

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play for you either way.

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Speaker 5: There's not like a huge.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, there's not no because nobody wants to

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get who's writing these songs.

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Speaker 2: I am fucking sad.

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Speaker 5: I am so I wrote a sad song. About loss

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and now I mean it's done, it's fully produced. I'm

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going to have a different stage name. I've decided. I'm

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not ready to quite announce it in case I go okay, correction.

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But actually this weekend and next weekend, Mike and I

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are going to film the music video.

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Speaker 2: Uh to our song, and we're gonna.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna put on Spotify iTunes like.

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Speaker 2: You are for it, like really for real, and I don't.

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Speaker 5: Care if thirteen people see it or what if it

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blows up?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 5: You know, so it's going to really.

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Speaker 2: I think it's called out there.

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Speaker 3: I think Bonnie Rats song is called just like that.

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Let me just see if this is the song?

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Speaker 5: What interesting concept the organ donation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pretty sad song, but it's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I'll watched them circle around bla blah. Finally stopped in mind.

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Speaker 5: What you're she released.

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Speaker 6: Before and n lock like all I had was time.

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Speaker 5: Excuse me, ma'am, maybe you want to help.

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Speaker 7: The directions weren't so clear. I'm looking for Olivia, say.

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Speaker 6: This said, I might find her here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. Every time I hear this, I

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don't listen.

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Speaker 7: To this hard and asked him what she's got he's

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looking for?

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Speaker 6: Said that something I think she'd want to know when

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I let him in the door. It's not like me

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to trust so quick, called me by surprise.

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Speaker 2: What's something about him? Gave me?

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Speaker 8: But there in his eye, just like that, you love

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and change.

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Speaker 5: If I had him.

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Speaker 7: Looked away, my boy might still be whim Now it's

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been twenty five today.

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Speaker 5: No not, I can come with estay.

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Speaker 7: Or drink and drown regret. They say Jesus brings you

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peace and gray, but he ain't found me.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, how human is this?

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 5: I like it, but you can't really see.

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Speaker 2: No, No, you cannot.

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Speaker 5: I'm sad. I want to that.

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Speaker 2: This is this is this?

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Speaker 5: I like? Yeah, I like.

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Speaker 4: I want a song.

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Speaker 2: I know you want death.

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Speaker 4: I wrote, you know, I wrote a single Blend.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little blood in my face.

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Speaker 6: This is the part I heard about the song you lost,

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how you left without a tree.

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Speaker 7: It's just trying to find you so I could fun

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let you know. It was your songs hard to save me.

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Speaker 5: In a life you gave us booth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then from there at the end of the song, yeah,

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I know, And then she talks about putting her head

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on his chest and listening to the heartbeat.

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Speaker 5: I love those deep songs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I know what you're talking about. Yes,

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So tell me more about your song, because it does

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sound like it's deep to me.

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Speaker 5: It's deep about loss that I can apply to all

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the different ways you can lose a child.

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Speaker 4: I had three miscarriages, and the third one, I mean

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I had to call nine one one. It was real

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bad and.

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Speaker 5: I don't need to go in depth about it. But

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there's a lot of women that experience that. They even

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you know, they lose a child, a one year old

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and a car accident, sixteen kids to cancer, So I

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know a whole bunch of people with different stories, you know,

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even divorce, like even if you have your kids fifty

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to fifty, you miss out on half of their life.

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And in some cases it's there, they're gone, they move away. Yes,

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there's a lot of different ways you can lose a

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child to drugs.

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Speaker 4: So I just felt like writing.

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Speaker 2: Where is this okay about loss?

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Speaker 5: You know, because I have so many breakup songs and

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I'll watch a movie or I'll get an idea or

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think of something in my soul. But when I'm sad,

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I want to belt it out and sing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is a belted out of the scene

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kind of to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I sing it in the car and.

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Speaker 2: I yeah, I can't wait to hear this.

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Speaker 5: So we're just gonna make the video.

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Speaker 2: And then you're going to release the video. Yeah, this

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is I.

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Speaker 5: Have different scenes. I've been playing with AI and I

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wish I could just like have AI me, but the

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text not there, right, you can't say, hey, sing my song.

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I kind of look like an alien like we played

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with it. I'm like, this isn't really gonna work. I'm

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gonna have to really record and then I'm overweight. You know,

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I got a whole separate thyroid issue thing going on.

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I've been, you know, trying to eat healthier.

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Speaker 2: And I saw because I wanted to be.

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Speaker 5: The stupid thyroid thing. But it's like I didn't want

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to film the video, you know, at the size I

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wanted to shrink. Yeah, well, I don't want to wait

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another year to film the video. I don't think, Okay,

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I'm curvy, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I never okay, I don't know. You can't comment.

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I don't know whether to comment. I thought you looked great.

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You look fantastic, but.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to be smaller. It's gonna take me at

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the rate with my thyroid if I lose one pound

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a month, Like.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing that I have to say about you

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that is absolutely amazing. You just talked about something that

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really sets I can't imagine. I have absolutely no way

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to relate to three miscarriages. I don't I met my

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wife that I that I'm aware. I've never had one

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when I was married, and we have three sons. But

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that is some heavy, heavy stuff a lot of people,

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and yet the happiness and the laughter and then I know,

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you know your breakup, you were in the public eye,

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you know, right, and so your marriage dissolves, and then

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but you go on, I mean, where does that?

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 5: With every loss, the grass got greener, you know, the

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sky got blurer. And I really believe everyone should enjoy

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every single day of their life. Yeah, And like, I'm

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the type of person if my flights cancel, then I'm

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stuck in Chicago. I'm not screaming, yelling, pissed off. I'm like,

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I guess I'm meant to explore Chicago today. You know,

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even I've had a lot of bad, a lot of

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fucked up things happening in my life.

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Speaker 2: I'm aware, and I don't want.

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Speaker 5: To turn things into gold. Yeah, I just try to

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find a way to see the good. Yeah, you know,

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I wish everyone was like.

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Speaker 3: I have a mantra because I've been doing something called

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the five Minute Journal, and the five minute Journal in

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the morning asks you questions and it's like three things

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or at the end of yeah, three things you're grateful for, right,

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and then it's what do you hope happens today? And

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then it's like your mantra. My mantra always is and

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has been for almost a year. Everything that everything is

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happening is always good. And even if something doesn't go

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the right way, only good will come, you know what

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I mean, even if something feers awful, that only good

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will come. And that's exactly what you're saying. I mean,

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I don't remember the well I.

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Speaker 5: Was watching one night, which I'm I've always been positive

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my whole life, but this really hopefully, like listeners, this

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will really change. I was laying about it couldn't sleep

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and it was like a planet Earth, you know, and

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it started one hundred million years ago, and they said,

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whatever event happened, and then the timeline scrolls, it freaking

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fly scrolls past eighty million years like it was nothing,

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and they're like twenty million years ago. So I'm watching

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a show like try to digest that eighty million years nothing.

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Speaker 4: To talk about? What are we respects?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, why aren't we starting that business? Why aren't we

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asking the whole out? Why aren't we dancing?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 5: Why why are we happy?

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Speaker 2: That's it? Great?

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Speaker 3: I mean that's so true, and I think like that's

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a great way to get into your podcast thing because.

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Speaker 2: Why aren't you asking that.

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Speaker 3: That girl out, that guy out, personnel, whoever it is, because.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to lose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's absolutely amazing. And that

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was because I'm going in my head when I saw

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when I saw the with the post that you put up,

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I was like, what was the moment?

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Speaker 2: Like why, because.

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Speaker 3: Well, you decide to post that, but why aren't they

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doing it for themselves? Do you understand what I'm saying

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going to your theory that you just said or your

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your statement of yeah, why aren't you asking that guy out?

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Speaker 2: I know one of the women chased.

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Speaker 5: They want to be chased, and men they like to

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chase and so over the holidays. I mean these one

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of the very successful. Like I'm like too hot, and

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there's not a lot of hot successful men that are

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good in our town. Like, there's got to be some

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guys all over the country.

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Speaker 4: They could clean up if they they moved here.

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Speaker 5: And I was at an event and I looked around

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and I think I counted thirty eight like hot women,

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like the way they dressed and like hot.

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Speaker 4: And I looked around and I saw two handsome men

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the thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And if you really go out of a bar, like

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look at the good looking women that come in, and look,

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there's a lot of trolls, and look at the guys

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on my post.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just.

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Speaker 5: Some I'm like, you think you're hot and successful, and

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these aren't gold diggers. But the problem is is they

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want somebody bigger than them.

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Speaker 3: And actually, I who does these ladies, yes.

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Speaker 5: Right, because they want a guy that has worked harder

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than they have, because they still want to be inferior

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in some way. They don't want to be the leader.

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Some guy wrote on there that these women are messing

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up with the balance of some big fancy word the

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way society is supposed to be that they're dudes. Yeah,

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but so like that was firing women up. But the

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natural but he's right on some level or the natural

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level is the men are supposed to be the breadwinner leaders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean some people will get upset and say

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that's a misogynistic thing.

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Speaker 2: You have to be confident. I think that.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the one thing that's really missing for

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most people is confidence and not so much cocky. And

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I think confidence comes more with age. Cockiness is when

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you're younger, right, and because it's almost a mask for

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what you should be confident about, but you're not. And

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I think you know that confidence comes with age and

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not everything is a put down to you, a slam

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to you. No one's here to really fuck with you

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like that, you know what I mean. And so when

477
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,480
you see a woman who's successful and she does well

478
00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:59,119
and she busts her ass, why but yes, I understand,

479
00:23:59,279 --> 00:23:59,599
I do.

480
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 5: And then so I had some kind of messages of

481
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,960
some guys that are more like total package and they're embarrassed.

482
00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:10,079
They they were afraid to say interested. They're like, well,

483
00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:12,359
if they're hot, send them my screen Screensho.

484
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: Why why do you think that was because they don't

485
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,240
want their buddies to know their jobs.

486
00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:20,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it is kind of public.

487
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was public, you know, and they don't want

488
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,000
to get made fun of. So so many people chickened out.

489
00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:30,119
But I did have some successful matches. You did, yeah,

490
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,000
because the problem is just like that you know that page,

491
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,279
like are we dating the same guy?

492
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the.

493
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,279
Speaker 5: Girls got talking like he's a loser, he's this.

494
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,519
Speaker 2: Then really they knew some of these guys. Oh god,

495
00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:44,759
this is amazing. What do you expecting? Like what ten

496
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,279
twenty comments? I don't know. I don't know, okay.

497
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 5: But I have some really really great catches, Like I

498
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,599
wish I could say their names, like they're all very pretty.

499
00:24:55,759 --> 00:24:57,519
Speaker 2: They all make it your friends women.

500
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,319
Speaker 5: So I said two, But then I mean that was

501
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,920
just being me like whatever. Then I'm like, oh my god,

502
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,880
I have thirteen like I said too, But there was

503
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,319
like thirteen that I was messaging the screenshots like it

504
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,559
was my full time job.

505
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 4: For like three days.

506
00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:18,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, like there was like we were investigating guys and yeah,

507
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,240
yeah it was intense.

508
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: Why didn't you that's that's interesting? Okay, so you do? Yes,

509
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,920
all right? Yes, okay, because we have. Here's the thing

510
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,960
that I don't fully understand. Okay, and maybe you know

511
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:36,960
this from your friends or maybe you know from your

512
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,400
own experience. Is it actually harder to meet people or different?

513
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,880
And I say that because.

514
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 5: We have where do you meet people?

515
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,079
Speaker 2: The bar?

516
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 5: But there's the culinaries.

517
00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:50,599
Speaker 2: But well think about it. No, I understand, but I'm not.

518
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: Uh, but we have meetups bowling, but there's dating apps

519
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:58,240
and there's there's me you have a meetup on your page?

520
00:25:58,519 --> 00:26:01,240
I do you have a singles that you said from like.

521
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:03,039
Speaker 5: Where do you go? So?

522
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:04,759
Speaker 2: Why does it feel so hard? Though?

523
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:08,799
Speaker 3: That's what I don't understand? Like, I guess, you know what,

524
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,599
Let me rephrase that. I guess I do understand because

525
00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:14,960
a lot of people that were talking about an age

526
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,160
bracket where most of the people are divorced, and when

527
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,200
you're divorced, there's a good chance that you have children.

528
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:24,920
And if you have the children, you've got to make

529
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,039
them the priority.

530
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: You know.

531
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,799
Speaker 3: I learned the hard way from my separation that I

532
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,680
didn't do it the right way. It was no one

533
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,440
hundred percent, but it wasn't done correctly. And I see

534
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,680
that now with you know, especially with some with some

535
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,160
of my kids.

536
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 4: I need a time machine too.

537
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah it's not so much. Yeah, it's not so much that.

538
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 3: But it was like I remember in the early two thousands,

539
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,519
maybe around the tens, maybe a little before that, when

540
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:58,960
Gwyneth Paltrow got divorced and she called it conscious uncoupling,

541
00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,799
and people made from.

542
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: Ruth this fucking bitch blah blah blah.

543
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:04,519
Speaker 3: Blah, and I go, that may be the greatest thing

544
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:08,119
ever said, because you you know, and her kids are

545
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,119
now older. But it's hard and it's hard to do that.

546
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:13,640
So dating adds a new wrinkle.

547
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:14,319
Speaker 5: It's tough.

548
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,559
Speaker 3: And when do you meet the kids? And whndy you

549
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,680
not And some people just go, you don't have time

550
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,880
for me, you're not available.

551
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,319
Speaker 5: Then there's the whole like the fifty two year old

552
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:29,319
man with let's just say fat slobby ex wife that

553
00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:31,759
he was never getting sex. Let's just say she was

554
00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:36,559
a letter. What he wants some young, hot girl that

555
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,640
doesn't have babies.

556
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 4: He wants to go hook up with the smoke shows.

557
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and a lot there's a lot of girls. They'll

558
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,720
buy their way through.

559
00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 4: Hey, you want to leave a ton, I'll take you

560
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:45,559
out to.

561
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,319
Speaker 5: Dinner and the girl will get the purse and like

562
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,759
they're going through their horror face and then they realize,

563
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,359
I need a woman I can connect with.

564
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: There's more than that.

565
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,839
Speaker 5: It's a face, So what face do you catch the

566
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,920
guy in? He's got to burn through the young hotties

567
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,359
and then he gets more realistic and then it's like

568
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:04,759
who is.

569
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 4: He gonna grab up? And when is he ready?

570
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like do women do that as well?

571
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 5: They do.

572
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you find like the young hot guy, yeah, sure.

573
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they want the young hot, dumb guy that

574
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,279
they're like, oh, buy you a ticket to Miami. They

575
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:23,119
do the same thing. They're trying to spoil it too. Yeah,

576
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,000
and they joke they want the hard private parts in

577
00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:29,359
the six pack, you know, and then they realize, wait,

578
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,559
this is embarrassing to my children, or I didn't want

579
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:33,359
a guy that knows how to fix something or something

580
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,960
that's more my age. And they go through the same thing, right,

581
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:38,799
So it's already a small pool and then what phase.

582
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: Are they at and what phase are they at? Well? Yeah,

583
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,359
because I you got to.

584
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:43,559
Speaker 5: Have the balls and ask them out.

585
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: Are there more middle age single people today? That's what

586
00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:51,440
surprised me was the number on there because I did

587
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:57,039
see comments, and uh, the one woman commented, I'm fifty eight,

588
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,920
retired in Brighton.

589
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:02,119
Speaker 2: Which is a suburb of her. She's so nice and divorced,

590
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,759
right and so okay, and.

591
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: She's sure if anyone reached out to her.

592
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, oh somebody else. I wish my friends

593
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:15,720
would do this for me. Then somebody says put out

594
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,920
there about one of their longtime friends, and it said

595
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,039
it's hard out there. Everyone I meet just wants a hookup. Bye,

596
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:23,759
by no, thank you.

597
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: Here's the hookup face.

598
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:31,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. Uh, it's interesting that it just

599
00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:33,039
hit with so many people.

600
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, And then you'll have like the guy, let's say

601
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,359
he's forty eight. Maybe he's super successful. He's done with

602
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,680
horror face, but he's running his company and he's he's

603
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,640
got a full on dad bob. But then the girl

604
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,119
who's super successful forty one is like, ew, I'm slaving

605
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,480
away at my body, eating you know nothing, and you

606
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:58,960
got this gut right, And then they'll be mad they

607
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,079
don't take care of their house, and I'm like, you're

608
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:02,799
gonna throw away the guy because of the gut.

609
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: He's got everything else.

610
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,839
Speaker 5: And then I'll find a perfect fucking mass.

611
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:10,319
Speaker 2: I want that on a T shirt.

612
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,079
Speaker 3: I throw away the guy for the gut, he's got

613
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:13,759
everything else.

614
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:14,839
Speaker 2: The fucking It's like.

615
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 9: I but then I'll so then I'll suggest to the

616
00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:23,039
guy my friend that's perfect, and he's like, oh, I

617
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:25,359
mean maybe she's got fifty pounds overweight, and he's like,

618
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:26,519
I wanted someone hotter.

619
00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 4: It's like so much vanity is taking place too.

620
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 5: Well, Okay, I saw it. I felt that the private

621
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,319
messages were like, yeah, I was hoping for someone more

622
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:39,039
fit or someone hotter. And then poor guys when they

623
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:40,960
lose their hair. You got a shit ton of hair.

624
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,960
But that's the thing, like ew, he's like he's like balding,

625
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,640
you know. And then there's a lot of guys believe

626
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,839
it or not. I am really I.

627
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,079
Speaker 2: I can't wait too. I'll tell you if it's real.

628
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 5: They're not into the fake lips, uh, fake faces. Yeah,

629
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,519
and I couldn't believe it.

630
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: I can understand that.

631
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:05,039
Speaker 5: I think going through a phase now where I think

632
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,039
men are starting to want more real.

633
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

634
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: The botox stuff is fine because it does wear off,

635
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,359
and it does.

636
00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: It's not that intrusive of stuff. But I do understand.

637
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:19,519
Speaker 5: I've had some like oh I don't if she is

638
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:23,440
like lip puffs and you know, I'm not interested really,

639
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,720
so a couple of mine do. I'm like, oh shit, yeah,

640
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,720
but like I can't really.

641
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: Why Okay, so why are they doing that? Are they

642
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:32,720
doing that because they think.

643
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,839
Speaker 5: The pressure to compete with a woman happyer age and

644
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,279
I just it's like I don't want to touch my

645
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,359
face every time I get a new wrinkle.

646
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,599
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I had some fun memories making that.

647
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,279
Speaker 5: And like wow, and like every gray hair, like you

648
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:50,200
know what, okay, this we can go down this age thing.

649
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:56,559
I think it's so exciting to get old, well into age. Yeah,

650
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,759
you know, because how many freaking hot checks are there

651
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,519
in your twenties They're like a dime a dozen, and

652
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:04,960
then same with women in your thirties. But like if

653
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:08,839
you're in your sixties and you're like decent, you're the

654
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:09,599
cream of the crop.

655
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: You are the cream.

656
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:14,799
Speaker 5: And if you are I'm a goofball outgoing right. When

657
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:17,960
you're fun and goofy and you're older, people think you're

658
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:18,880
like a rock star.

659
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:19,839
Speaker 4: I'll never forget.

660
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 5: I was like the Pelican's nest and there was this

661
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:25,319
like seventy five year old woman headbanging ACDC and everybody

662
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,200
was like worshiping her. Yeah, I'm thinking that's all you

663
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,440
gotta be cool in your seventies is don't be too

664
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:35,240
fat and head bang like I got this, like, you know,

665
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,319
it's exciting.

666
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,359
Speaker 3: I do wonder if for some people and it does

667
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,960
sound like you know Vanity does. I know Vanity takes it.

668
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,079
I know Vanity does. I hear women. I have heard

669
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,400
what they said. You know, I've got the love handles

670
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,599
or I've got the whatever.

671
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: Don't look at mysel about you, no, oh about them,

672
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:56,759
about themselves, about themselves. I have all that, I have

673
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:58,519
the gut, I have it all. I'm working on it.

674
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,359
Speaker 3: I don't shit happens right, it's like, but I hear them,

675
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,599
and I hear them say things like I look crinkly

676
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,200
and craggly, and I don't know, and I often say sometimes,

677
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,720
don't talk about yourself that way, don't I don't like it. Yeah,

678
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:19,240
I don't either, and I think it's bad. But I

679
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:24,519
wonder too this and maybe you'll know, maybe.

680
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: From your own experience, maybe not. I don't know. Do

681
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:28,759
you think people in there?

682
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: And I'll even go into the fifties like because fifties,

683
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,759
I'm almost mid fifties, or maybe I am mid.

684
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,359
Speaker 4: Fifties forty four, and.

685
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:40,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ten years older than you. I'm fifty four.

686
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: So do you think people in those age brackets are

687
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,599
starting over more intentionally?

688
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:48,759
Speaker 2: Yes, you understand what I mean.

689
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: And somewhat with intentional comes cautious. Yes, And I wonder

690
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,799
if that's some of it as well, because sure, there's

691
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:00,200
a guy that would really like to meet somebody that

692
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,200
he just vibes with, who wouldn't love that person that

693
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:06,640
you could just turn to on a random Saturday morning

694
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,599
in a beautiful spring or summer or maybe fall and

695
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:13,039
say we're going wine tasting today. You know what I mean,

696
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:15,400
and that there is something about that and you can

697
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,159
have a lot of fun.

698
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 5: But they got to be ready though, They got to

699
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:24,039
be done with their hookup face right, must all right?

700
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:29,000
For example, the Viking, Yes, is he still around?

701
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: Yes?

702
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 5: Because when is someone like that going to be ready?

703
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,280
Because do you know how many girls think he's cute?

704
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,119
Speaker 2: Yes?

705
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 5: And then they know he's not ready?

706
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes, there's quite a few.

707
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: I think there was actually somebody I know who had

708
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,440
hooked up with him and then wasn't sure where things stood,

709
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,239
and then walked into a restaurant and he was there

710
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,159
with someone really young, and.

711
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had just heard of it.

712
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 5: There's guys that might never want to go back in relationship.

713
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,039
I had so much effort trying to figure out. You

714
00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:04,920
almost want to figure it out like the first day,

715
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,400
but then you don't want to be crazy.

716
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,119
Speaker 2: No, you don't want to be before.

717
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 4: You spend all that time.

718
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: Well, loneliness is something that I think all the time.

719
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,800
I go, is this really showing you?

720
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: Because there's loneliness, there's independence, right, And I remember my

721
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,639
father would always say to me things like, you don't

722
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,400
want anyone to need you, and you don't want to

723
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,760
need anybody you want to be with them, right, And

724
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,400
so that's speaking more of an independent type person.

725
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 5: But I'm like a relationship person. Yes, I love having

726
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,519
someone to love with me. I don't love the single days,

727
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,840
so I don't know if that. But I'm very independent too.

728
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,199
I've taken vacations alone, bar alone. I can do anything alone.

729
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,639
Speaker 3: Still, But talk about your girlfriends for a second, the

730
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:51,039
ones that you're out there, because I know one of

731
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:55,000
them and she's very attractive. She really is, right, attractive,

732
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,920
But do you think people are lonelier or just less

733
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,039
willing to settle?

734
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: Less willing to settle?

735
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're back to kind of the Yeah, but

736
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:13,159
she's been in relationships something Yeah, and then.

737
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 5: The other one, I mean the other one. These girls

738
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,639
are crushing it, crushing it really, Yeah, couples like wow,

739
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,719
I was like, want to Saturday, but she probably killed

740
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,639
me without permission.

741
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: She I think she's been single for like five years.

742
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:34,639
Speaker 5: Beautiful, so grounded, great family, running a huge business.

743
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,159
Speaker 2: You know she's getting laid and she doesn't.

744
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:39,519
Speaker 5: If she does, she's so private.

745
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 4: She probably does it on vacations.

746
00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:45,039
Speaker 5: Because she doesn't want to affect her That's probably why

747
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:50,159
she travels a lot. Yeah, good to keep her reputation

748
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,440
clean here. Yeah, but the kind of guy she needs

749
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,239
is the guy with the.

750
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,599
Speaker 2: Jet, right, Yeah, and there's many of those.

751
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 5: Where's the hot guy with a jet in Rochester?

752
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,559
Speaker 2: Here?

753
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 5: Where are they?

754
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,599
Speaker 2: Well, they're actually actually single. Hang on, guys, I know

755
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,760
guys with jets.

756
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,599
Speaker 5: Okay, but you don't act that seventy three No they're.

757
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,039
Speaker 2: Not, but they're but they're all they're entangled and stuff.

758
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 5: I'm saying, like, I know you're looking for single, late

759
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,599
fifties and under decently in shape, yeah at least cute.

760
00:37:27,519 --> 00:37:30,599
You know, where are these guys if they want to

761
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:32,039
like it? But the thing is all that there were

762
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:35,320
so many guys messaging me and they were not handsome

763
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,679
and they had bad jobs. Like I'm not giving you

764
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:47,320
a shitty, mediocre league. These are like girls with very

765
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,360
nice cars, do you know what I mean?

766
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: And very Yeah, I got you right.

767
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,679
Speaker 5: Yeah where are those guys?

768
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,079
Speaker 2: They're probably married if they're.

769
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 4: Here, okay, but where are the single ones?

770
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I know about that.

771
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 5: Multiple really good leads. Yeah, all right, ideas stepping on

772
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,840
everyone because here's the other thing that that I always

773
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,920
wonder with relationships.

774
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: And I'll say this, things don't if you don't change yourself,

775
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,480
you bring yourself to the same thing, you'll attract the same.

776
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: Type of person.

777
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: You ever notice that like they always end up with

778
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,920
the blank fill in the blank you know somebody who's

779
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,960
and say it for guys as well. By the way,

780
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:39,679
this is not a gender exclusive thing by any means

781
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,519
at all. It's always like they end up with why

782
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,840
why is that? Because there's some comfort it's what they know.

783
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,119
But they're also bringing in a ton of baggage that

784
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:52,360
that person can relate to.

785
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 2: If you believe in the law of attraction, that's what

786
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,280
you're getting.

787
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: If you want to change that shit, you got to

788
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,880
really work on yourself. And and here's the thing that

789
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,840
I don't think people know. I don't think and I

790
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,960
don't have the answer. So I'm just going to say

791
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,840
it almost like a rhetorical question, but I don't think

792
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,639
people know how to.

793
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: Work on themselves. No, you know what I mean.

794
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:16,559
Speaker 3: And I think once you start to realize, and maybe

795
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:19,559
a little bit I could give some suggestions, but like

796
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,599
once you start to really delve into who you are

797
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:26,119
and what it is, and I'll tell you this, like again,

798
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:28,559
I'll go back to confidence. You know, I said for

799
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,280
years the most Yeah, but I said for years that

800
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,400
I found women forty and above to be the most attractive.

801
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,239
I think I was saying this in my late thirties.

802
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,159
Really yes, And here's why. Because at forty many women,

803
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,920
as you're saying, some are grounded. As you say, they're grounded,

804
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,960
they know themselves. They can put on the most audacious

805
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,039
color of lipstick and walk around boldly, and they fucking

806
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:57,519
look good. And they and there is a sexiness about

807
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:01,960
that that is unspoken. It's not these young hot chicks,

808
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:04,280
you know what I'm saying, Like, I believe me. I

809
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,000
go to the gym when I was a boxing instructor

810
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:10,599
for a specific gym, and we're.

811
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: Going back almost a decade. I'm not there now. They

812
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:18,400
asked me to do a bar class just to see what.

813
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: It was like, Oh you told me about that, or.

814
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,559
Speaker 2: It was nothing but assholes and birth canals.

815
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 3: Whenever I turned around and the balls between the legs

816
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,039
and it was all these young girls.

817
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 2: I thought they can't even dress. But there was no one.

818
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 3: There that I would I remember going yeah, when I

819
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,880
didn't know where to look. But what I'm saying is,

820
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,639
but if you had a bunch of middle aged women

821
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,840
like I find something about a confident middle aged woman

822
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,360
I and I can it's you, I know, but I know.

823
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:51,960
And I've also seen like where I can almost sense

824
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,960
that they're on the same vibe because they'll give it.

825
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: You get a second look energy. I don't know what

826
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,360
it is. I don't know what it is.

827
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I just wonder with the working

828
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:04,320
on yourself, I think everyone says they do it. But

829
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,039
are they I'm working on myself.

830
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: Are you? And how? And what is that?

831
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 4: I think I have the answer. Okay, are they approachable?

832
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 5: And I think why I talk to so many people,

833
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:19,559
especially single, I talked to anybody, I'm a goofball. I'd

834
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,840
be the one like headbanging that it's like easier to

835
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,039
talk to versus the girl that looks.

836
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 4: Like the model of the body that just got out

837
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,880
of the portial. You know, like you know that might

838
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,880
be more intimidating.

839
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,119
Speaker 2: Oh sure, absolutely.

840
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:34,079
Speaker 5: And I told them, I'm like, you guys need to

841
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,880
like be a little goofy. And I've actually told this

842
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:41,079
to maybe five of them, Like why don't you make

843
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:43,000
a post where you don't have makeup on?

844
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: Or you do something silly.

845
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 5: They're also like, oh, like, just like, you know, show

846
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,639
some personality.

847
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: Right, because a lot of times not being perfect. Yes,

848
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:58,840
And I think there's there you hit the nail on the.

849
00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 5: Head there were approachable.

850
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 3: Well, it makes you more approachable, but it also makes

851
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,679
you more human, right, you don't come off so much

852
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,159
as like this too stuff.

853
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,199
Speaker 4: The guy is going to think I'm not that perfect?

854
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:08,639
Speaker 2: Right?

855
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:10,199
Speaker 4: What is she going to think of me?

856
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:10,679
Speaker 7: Right?

857
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 5: And my Jenny shirt watching football scratch and my belly.

858
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,119
Speaker 4: On a Sunday.

859
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 5: You know, huh, maybe she's in her pajamas on a

860
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Sunday making waffles and fried chicken and they you know.

861
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the sweet love after that. From what

862
00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:28,880
you saw in the comments, were there some guys who

863
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:29,840
were kind of grounded?

864
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,119
Speaker 2: Are this too?

865
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:34,559
Speaker 5: And my favorite were the guys who just obeyed. They

866
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:38,599
literally just said interested, yeah, because that's what I said.

867
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,599
Speaker 4: I'm like clapping for them, right.

868
00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:45,079
Speaker 2: How about the performative there had to be some performative.

869
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,119
Speaker 5: Everything. I mean, the comments are crazy.

870
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: What stood out like in the comments as almost an

871
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,679
immedia green flag because everybody asked about the red flags, but.

872
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 5: The green flams that just said interested.

873
00:42:57,599 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were a green flags. Yeah, the red flag.

874
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 5: There's so many. So Mike was sleeping and I had

875
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,159
a busy day when when I went to read the comments,

876
00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:09,719
he was asleep, and I was like having the pillow

877
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,320
over my face holding in the sounds of laughter as

878
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,880
I was reading these, and I'm texting my girlfriends and

879
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,280
texting I feel bad. But the one guy that's like,

880
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,880
they better like my cat. And then there's a picture

881
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:26,360
of the cat just doesn't scream ceo jet.

882
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:33,679
Speaker 3: Like you know, it screams unchanged litter box and dying

883
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,679
plant in the corner.

884
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 5: I just was like, oh, we were freaking cracking. And

885
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,760
there's one guy that's like, are they in the midgets?

886
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, what midgets? Oh yeah, well I didn't realize that.

887
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 5: Like this, this one guy, he's a really nice guy,

888
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,239
but he's short and a little bit chubby, and he's like, who,

889
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,079
we're off front? And I just had to say, I said, listen,

890
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:59,519
they're looking for tall buff like there's a really I

891
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:03,519
guess I'm all then yeah, I was trying to say

892
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:06,679
the nicest way. And one of the girls doesn't even

893
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,360
have any kids, and some mister hotkeye with a jet

894
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,159
doesn't want to deal with any kid baggage. I got

895
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:15,400
one of those. He's gotten no kids?

896
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:19,559
Speaker 3: You got a whole store? Yeah, one guy did right

897
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:22,639
on there. Uh, men are going to need to know

898
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,480
the crazy and rama ratings of these women, which is

899
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,400
funny on scale of one to be on a scale

900
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,599
of one to bat shit insane?

901
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: What are we talking here? And then apparently and I found.

902
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,199
Speaker 3: U this video where it talks about this this whole

903
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:38,880
thing right.

904
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,599
Speaker 2: It's this guy crazy axis crazy. He does a whole

905
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:47,239
graph and you're hot axis Yeah, right, hot is as.

906
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 7: Usual measured from zero to ten.

907
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,119
Speaker 2: We're all familiar with that.

908
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,639
Speaker 3: He doesn't like it's a it's a downebra class. That's

909
00:44:56,679 --> 00:45:00,519
so funny. But so the hotter they are, the crazier

910
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:02,760
they get. Is kind of what this guy's saying. And

911
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,119
there maybe there's some truth to that. I don't I

912
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:09,239
don't know, And I would say even for guys.

913
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:08,199
Speaker 2: There is the.

914
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 5: Thirteen. Yeah, I can say that there is. I can

915
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,239
look at a couple of them say there's there's a

916
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,360
little bit of truth to that.

917
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:19,639
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, but the majority of them are.

918
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 3: But see solid leads, we'll see they are. I think

919
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:28,840
here's what I think needs to be done. I think

920
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,960
that we should I should figure out a way to

921
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:34,880
do a podcast that involves you and one of your

922
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,760
friends and and some.

923
00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 5: Guys have the single guys around the table, and the

924
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,000
girls could be in the room next door, right, and

925
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:44,679
they come over if they're interested.

926
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,079
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Ben, I like you know what I'm saying,

927
00:45:48,199 --> 00:45:51,199
right exactly, because it would be kind of fun and

928
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,639
at the same time like almost tell these guys what

929
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,559
they're missing.

930
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,639
Speaker 2: Up your game. Up your game, yeah, you know, don't

931
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:00,320
be fast.

932
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:06,159
Speaker 3: Here's the thing I have realized, uh, for myself, that

933
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:11,320
I come from a family of men who would put

934
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,320
on a suit to get the mail. My dad, my grandfather,

935
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:19,039
and I have always liked more or less. Not today,

936
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,679
you got me, you know, not today. But I would

937
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,719
rather wear a blazer and jeans and a custom made

938
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,880
shirt or.

939
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 5: You're a dress up cut I would love.

940
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,599
Speaker 3: Really, I don't know about casual dress up though, I

941
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:36,199
mean not not like we'll call it business casual, right,

942
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:39,480
But I still know that when I go places like that,

943
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:41,679
you're kind of looked at, like no, but you look

944
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,239
like you stand out. And I'm not always looking to

945
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:51,360
stand out. But I'd rather dress nicely and presentable everybody today,

946
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:55,239
I mean even in schools they're wearing like leggings and yeah,

947
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,119
it's all cover, it's all cover.

948
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,519
Speaker 5: But I'm guilty of it.

949
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,119
Speaker 2: No, no, it's fine. But my point is like, well,

950
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:02,679
look at you.

951
00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: You have the blazer on, right, it dresses, but it dresses,

952
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:08,960
it dresses it up right, you look great. So I

953
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:12,360
just think that also raises your confidence. You feel better

954
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,679
about yourself, and you know what I mean, it's dressed

955
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:17,800
for the I would say, dress for the person you

956
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,039
want to impress, you know what I mean, or whatever.

957
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:23,519
Speaker 2: I guess. The other thing is too, is I always

958
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:24,840
go it's an inside job.

959
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: And if you're not confident about yourself, or you don't

960
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,079
feel good about yourself, or you even't worked out your shit,

961
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:31,559
you're no good to anybody. You're gonna be the same

962
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:34,239
miserable person with the same type of person that you've

963
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:34,599
been with.

964
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: You.

965
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 3: You know, you whatever about an ex wife or an

966
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,639
ex husband, and the next thing, you know, you got

967
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:45,320
somebody who almost I mean, they may look very different

968
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,920
on the outside, but they are absolutely very similar on

969
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,039
the inside. Or with whatever behaviors or whatever lunatic bullshit

970
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,039
that you're said you were sick of dealing with, is

971
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:57,280
what you deal with. You gotta find the thing. And

972
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,559
I would say even taking some time alone, like truly alone,

973
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,039
and you know, not your whore phase, not your whatever,

974
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,760
just alone to kind of work on yourself.

975
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,199
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, I there's something to note here. Yeah,

976
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,519
there's a lot of middle of the road vanilla people

977
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,559
living like I'm not saying they're bad people, but I'm

978
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:21,239
not I'm not trying to hook up the r genee

979
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,920
worker with the physical therapist.

980
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,639
Speaker 2: There's that's that's normal.

981
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 4: Normal.

982
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 5: I'm talking about I have some exceptional I think you

983
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:34,199
have to do. You are looking for some exceptional Now,

984
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,360
I have normal friends. I love the.

985
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,039
Speaker 4: Whole world and the whole variety of everyone on earth.

986
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 5: But this was about finding my exceptional like mega hot,

987
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,760
mega rich, put together like it's harder. There's a lot

988
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,760
of middle, is what I'm saying. You're you know, in

989
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,679
the middle. There's a lot to choose from. There's not

990
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,800
a lot at the top. So I was trying to

991
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,360
help them, not slamming normal people, because normal people they

992
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:10,559
love too. This was just except like you know, well,

993
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,519
I don't know, but I know I am normal guys.

994
00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:15,119
I don't want to slam normal girls.

995
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: No, but I remember one.

996
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 3: Of your one of these women I know, and even

997
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:22,000
at a Fairport music fest.

998
00:49:22,039 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 2: I was back somewhere and I was wound up talking to.

999
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: Her and I was probably who knows what language I

1000
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:29,800
was speaking at that time, and she said to me

1001
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,800
later on, hey, I have a friend who was really

1002
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:36,320
interested in you, and I just simply said, I'm not available.

1003
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1004
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: I said, No, I wasn't nervous at all. I probably

1005
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,519
talked to this woman. I have a problem when I drink,

1006
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,400
and it's not.

1007
00:49:44,639 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: No, I'm fun. I think I'm fun. But here's I'm

1008
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:49,880
gonna tell you.

1009
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you, trouble comes out of you.

1010
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: What do you mean you can get it a little

1011
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,199
bit of trouble? I can, but he can.

1012
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: But here's the here's the thing that I realized, Like

1013
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:03,800
I sometimes I'm just nice and I'm and since the

1014
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,599
breaks are gone, right, the inhibition's gone, I'll talk to

1015
00:50:06,639 --> 00:50:10,840
somebody and I'll just yeah, and I don't and and

1016
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,199
I don't mean to And then like, now, now all

1017
00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:15,760
you have to do is have your phone in your

1018
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,800
hand right you're talking, or on your body, and they

1019
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,519
just go. They just you could put the phones next

1020
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:23,039
to each other and the numbers exchange.

1021
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,039
Speaker 2: Really yeah, it's weird. They go, hey, watch this, bruh.

1022
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:28,599
Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden, I have her contact,

1023
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:31,400
she has mine, and I'm standing there and I'm like, okay,

1024
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,679
so I don't write, I don't mean anything. Then I

1025
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,679
get a text couple of days later, Hey, it was

1026
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,639
so fun hanging out. We should do it again, and

1027
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:40,159
I may have bought someone to drink and just was

1028
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,519
thought in my mind, that's what you do. I'm just

1029
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:46,079
being nice and and that, and I think that happens

1030
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:47,039
probably more often for.

1031
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 2: Women than men, to be quite honest with you, that

1032
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:52,880
was one time for me like once I'm sure, I'm sure.

1033
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,599
Speaker 4: Nice and I talk doesn't mean I want you.

1034
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: What did you learn about men from this? Did you

1035
00:50:57,519 --> 00:50:58,119
learn anything?

1036
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,039
Speaker 5: I learned that I have gorgeous women who are afraid

1037
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:08,719
to say boo, and there's a lot of trash that

1038
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:14,760
thinks they're the king. Yeah, get confidence of some dirt

1039
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,440
bags and they're like, oh god, Like I did. Get

1040
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,719
people messaging me and they thought they were hot, And

1041
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,559
I'm like, really, I guess men.

1042
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: You want to see the mirror they're looking at.

1043
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 5: Their very confident Definitely men are They have more confidence than.

1044
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: What did you learn about women? Watching this unfold?

1045
00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 5: More or less women need to step out of their

1046
00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:46,199
comfort zone and ask a guy out or be more approachable.

1047
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,559
They're two stand offish and they're like waiting for this

1048
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:52,320
fairy tale. Well maybe sometimes you got to take the

1049
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,719
first step, and they're afraid to That's what I learned.

1050
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,280
I'm like, fucking message him. I had this one lady.

1051
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 4: She goes, stuff, I don't want any of this out

1052
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,320
in the public.

1053
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 5: She goes, this is my husband's best friend, and she

1054
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:10,440
sends a screenshot. I'm like, okay, Yeah, So I sent

1055
00:52:10,519 --> 00:52:14,119
that screenshot to the single ladies and two of them

1056
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,599
liked them. And then I'm like, okay, here's his numb

1057
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:20,440
I'm not I'm not gonna text him. I'm like, well,

1058
00:52:20,519 --> 00:52:23,079
he's waiting, you know.

1059
00:52:23,159 --> 00:52:25,519
Speaker 4: And they were They're afraid to send a text.

1060
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,639
Speaker 5: I'm like, blaming on me. You say, oh, my goofy

1061
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,400
friends stuff said, you know, it attached.

1062
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 4: You, but they were too afraid to take one step.

1063
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting, and it may also be the thing

1064
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,800
that they want to be pursued instead of it feels

1065
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,039
unnatural to them.

1066
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: They're you know, women of a certain age. I'll say,

1067
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,000
right and so.

1068
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 5: But now some of these guys were intimidated to take

1069
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,920
a first step if they did have the green light,

1070
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:53,679
because they're like, well, did they even think I'm attractive?

1071
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, because I.

1072
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 4: Hyped him up almost too much.

1073
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,199
Speaker 3: There's a confidence versus availability too. Sometimes you come off

1074
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,360
too confident that can be intimidating, I think from either side,

1075
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,519
from either side, you know, and that that can be

1076
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:09,800
a problem as well. I'll ask you this, if you

1077
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,280
were single right now and you're not, how would this

1078
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,079
change how you date?

1079
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: Would it? Or do you wish more people did what

1080
00:53:18,039 --> 00:53:18,320
you do?

1081
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: You would talked about going out when you were single,

1082
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,480
eating alone at a bar at the bar, I don't.

1083
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 5: Think I would do anything different. Yeah, put myself out there.

1084
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: You need to start maybe a high end Rochester's high

1085
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,360
end dating app.

1086
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:37,159
Speaker 5: Because like there's I played matchmaker actually before this post,

1087
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,559
which inspired at all, and they're still together and she's

1088
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:42,360
like you can tell like you're an energy reader.

1089
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: She's like, we're perfect for each other. They're going to

1090
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,480
be an iron smoke tonight. Well, you guys might like

1091
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:49,960
you want to come hang out with us?

1092
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 5: That's cool?

1093
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,639
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah Wow?

1094
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 3: What do you think people actually want but don't know

1095
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,679
how to ask for? Are they looking for someone who's

1096
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,599
gonna because the other problem is like compatibility. You never

1097
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,239
know when someone gets mad, how you're going to react

1098
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,039
or how the other person reacts, you know, And now

1099
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,960
a lot of those things take time to figure out.

1100
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,639
Speaker 4: And so people don't even know what they want.

1101
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 5: I think it's easy to just blame it on the looks,

1102
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,119
like are you attracted? You got to be, But there's

1103
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:25,480
so much more to it. I mean, there can be

1104
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:29,280
a guy that's just okay, but he can be ten

1105
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,480
out of ten's in every other category in your life.

1106
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,079
So I think that's why it's important to least maybe

1107
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:37,920
grab a cup of coffee, least try because there's other

1108
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,920
components of compatibility.

1109
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: Sure there are, you know.

1110
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,079
Speaker 4: So one of my friends.

1111
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 5: Actually she said who she is, Katie. She raised her hand,

1112
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,440
She's like, I'm one of the girls.

1113
00:54:50,159 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: And she put her picture up there. Well it comes up.

1114
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:56,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Which is funny. Is one of the guys

1115
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:59,119
that she was just like dating around. I don't know

1116
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:01,480
if he heard that she was on there, but it

1117
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:04,760
actually worked good. He kind of clamped on a little

1118
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,719
bit harder, like, oh, guys are gonna be coming out

1119
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,320
of the woodwork, like yeah, I'll go see you in

1120
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,320
your next business trip.

1121
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1122
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 5: It like lit a fire under his ass. Almost, Okay,

1123
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,480
that's what I see in my opinion.

1124
00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. So but this guy was sort of like they

1125
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,320
were cash cause I was.

1126
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,199
Speaker 5: Like, hey, wh aren't you messaging? So and so, and

1127
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,480
she's like, well, so and so turned up the heat.

1128
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:24,679
He's gonna go see me my next business trip. Okay,

1129
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,559
I'm like really, so like put the pressure on a relationship.

1130
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:30,039
Speaker 2: I got it.

1131
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:35,119
Speaker 5: It was too casual. She was on there. He raised

1132
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:35,360
the bar.

1133
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes two people are vulnerable, but it's messy vulnerable.

1134
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,519
Speaker 2: Don't be messy vulnerable. He could be vulnerable, but you know.

1135
00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:43,639
Speaker 5: I don't spill all of your bag, dude, there's still

1136
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:44,719
an art of traction.

1137
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: Well exactly, this is where I go. You almost need

1138
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,239
to teach a class for some guys.

1139
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 5: Can't be putting all of your fucking baggage and problems

1140
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,159
out on the table.

1141
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: There's an art to us.

1142
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,159
Speaker 3: There are dating apps that are out there now. I

1143
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,960
just thought of this, that where the woman has to

1144
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:07,800
ask first. Is that like bumble or something? So I

1145
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,440
wonder what if we reverse that?

1146
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 5: What if you know, don't say that all these losers

1147
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,800
think they're kings.

1148
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,559
Speaker 3: There's a lot of no no, I understand. But let's

1149
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:23,360
say like Steph's Picks of the Month something, you know

1150
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,719
what I mean, Steph's Picks of the Month, and it's

1151
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,960
guys that you have, you know, scrubbed up or we

1152
00:56:29,159 --> 00:56:31,920
find even one of them is a guy who's improved

1153
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,800
himself and he's really working on himself, and that's attractive

1154
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,400
and like he's trying to be better and that you

1155
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,719
you find it. But the women have to make the

1156
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,559
first move. Like the guy's pictures there, he's there, Well.

1157
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,079
Speaker 2: This is what I mean. And everybody has to be

1158
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:48,119
screened by you. You can't get on the app.

1159
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 5: So I don't know how Mike would feel about that,

1160
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,920
because I'm meeting a.

1161
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,079
Speaker 10: Lot of eligible bachelors. If the tables were turned, I'd

1162
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:03,000
kill him. But if he was here, get out of here, Mike.

1163
00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:06,519
Speaker 2: Now, what if? What if Mike was part of the process.

1164
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:07,400
Though he's so.

1165
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 5: Simple, I think, what the hell are we doing here?

1166
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:10,679
Like I don't I don't know if.

1167
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: You would want to Okay, well maybe you have to

1168
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,199
pass this.

1169
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 5: Consider his feelings, trying to be mindful, like learn from

1170
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,320
my mistake. Oh yeah, I get that, and old me

1171
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,000
would be like fuck you, I wanted to fuck I'd

1172
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,079
probably piss him off. I have to do the trick

1173
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:29,039
where I pretend i'm him. So I picture Mike leaving

1174
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:33,199
the house at night to go meet Rochester's finest and

1175
00:57:33,239 --> 00:57:38,840
write down his opinions. I would be pissed. So okay,

1176
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:42,199
that's fair, But I don't do that. Sometimes I fail,

1177
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,280
but I try to reverse it and be like, how

1178
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,400
would you feel right?

1179
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:49,119
Speaker 4: And that's helpful for me. Before I make a decision,

1180
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:50,239
I just kind of spin it.

1181
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there would be something though. There's something there,

1182
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,199
that's all I'm saying. How it gets packaged. There's something

1183
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,719
there because the old look for many and I think

1184
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:04,440
they're still there in certain communities, especially the community you're

1185
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,920
talking about. Yeah, I think there's still matchmakers. I think

1186
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,320
there was a Netflix show or something where it was

1187
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,719
like high end trying to help you know, high end

1188
00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:16,679
people meet or high end earners or something like that.

1189
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 5: About people, you know, what about people listening to the pod?

1190
00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: What about them? I don't know who if we.

1191
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,039
Speaker 5: Had like six, you know, six men that they you know,

1192
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:28,159
maybe talk about.

1193
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: Them, yes, okay, gotcha? Gotcha?

1194
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:32,679
Speaker 4: Like they got at least be five to ten?

1195
00:58:33,159 --> 00:58:34,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, and maybe pick is there.

1196
00:58:34,679 --> 00:58:36,519
Speaker 2: A height you got to be so tall to ride

1197
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:37,440
this ride?

1198
00:58:38,199 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 5: Don't Well it's like a calculation. You know, they can

1199
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,360
be five eight if they get tens and all the

1200
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,840
other category I got I got So, if you're shorter,

1201
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,039
you've got to be richer, more funny, more charming.

1202
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: You have to have a bigger wallet and.

1203
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:58,679
Speaker 5: Dick and dick. Yes, but if you're taller and hotter,

1204
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,960
you can be a little bit poorer.

1205
00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:02,039
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh I see, I got it.

1206
00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 5: It's because it's the recipe.

1207
00:59:03,519 --> 00:59:04,559
Speaker 2: It's the recipe.

1208
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 5: Maybe we should start with five eight, Okay, we'd have

1209
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,000
to have like, okay, what are the income requirements?

1210
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:12,639
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1211
00:59:12,639 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 5: And then I have one, I mean, not all of them.

1212
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 4: I have some girlfriend.

1213
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 5: The older ones are more reasonable, yeah, the older The

1214
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,800
older ones are like, uh, I'll take anybody as long

1215
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,119
as he's at least employed, Yeah, and nice and at

1216
00:59:27,199 --> 00:59:30,559
least cute. Like the older ones are very basic.

1217
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,199
Speaker 2: How how old are we talking?

1218
00:59:32,199 --> 00:59:37,039
Speaker 5: When she's not as hot as the thirty you know

1219
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:39,880
what I mean? Like, I feel like the the ones

1220
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,159
that haven't crossed over the forty barrier, ye, are the

1221
00:59:42,199 --> 00:59:45,119
most picky, and the ones that are approaching fifty.

1222
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, are the least picky.

1223
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think they're like, well, what the hell

1224
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,960
was I doing ten years ago?

1225
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:50,639
Speaker 2: Right?

1226
00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 5: Maybe I let some good ones go. Maybe you can

1227
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:55,519
I can see that they're learning.

1228
00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, I have to Yeah, it's it's it's strange.

1229
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,000
The things that are striking me probably the most from

1230
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,480
this conversation is the number of comments one right that

1231
01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:11,039
really surprised me, and then yes, and then but on

1232
01:00:11,079 --> 01:00:14,159
top of that, they're probably over three hundred when you

1233
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:17,039
think of the people who started messaging you privately, right.

1234
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 4: That talks with my girlfriends. We were tearing those guys up.

1235
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,119
Speaker 5: Oh, it's so funny.

1236
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 3: It is such a great podcast because for every every guy.

1237
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,239
Speaker 5: Like everybody was like the fucking guy with a cat,

1238
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,159
like that guy for it, every guy.

1239
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,559
Speaker 3: I think many men do not believe that the women

1240
01:00:38,679 --> 01:00:40,800
talk about other guys the.

1241
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 2: Way they talk about other.

1242
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 5: Women, such talk about weird, nasty.

1243
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:47,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it would be really funny if we could

1244
01:00:48,199 --> 01:00:50,480
put the picture up but blur it out, blur it out,

1245
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,719
just blur it out, and they have.

1246
01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:54,079
Speaker 2: You guys fucking go to town.

1247
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 3: It would be well, see, it would be bad because

1248
01:00:57,079 --> 01:00:59,000
but it would be funny to hear what they say.

1249
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: Can just go references on because it took some to

1250
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,480
post something publicly for even the guys to answer the

1251
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:11,519
guys with the like the guy with the cat, I

1252
01:01:11,559 --> 01:01:14,239
mean that takes a little bit of guts, you know.

1253
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let me scroll if I can find

1254
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,039
the picture of the cat.

1255
01:01:19,239 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 5: Oh boy, some of.

1256
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: The like, oh, oh jeez, do you find it?

1257
01:01:25,519 --> 01:01:28,639
Speaker 4: There's so many I mean, this is just one friend.

1258
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:35,559
Speaker 3: It's a reminder that so many people, good, interesting, emotionally

1259
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:39,320
aware people are still out there trying. I think that

1260
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,199
that's kind of the thing they're trying, and maybe we

1261
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:45,679
should all go back to when we dated, when we

1262
01:01:45,679 --> 01:01:47,440
were young, and I like, really kind.

1263
01:01:47,239 --> 01:01:51,599
Speaker 5: Of those one friend. Okay, and this is kind of

1264
01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:55,079
where it starts. I just answered, so let's see how

1265
01:01:55,159 --> 01:01:57,880
quick he responds. I had a weird feeling that he

1266
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,280
might wait because he said he has his kids. So

1267
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,199
like she's waiting for the response, and she's like, you know,

1268
01:02:03,239 --> 01:02:06,559
now she's wondering, does what if he doesn't think she's cute?

1269
01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: Okay, really yourself out.

1270
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,519
Speaker 5: She's nervous, and then she goes, I'm gonna leave the

1271
01:02:15,519 --> 01:02:19,639
guy's name out. That one guy's going after everyone. He's

1272
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:21,920
not even attractive, and she's just doing like all these

1273
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:29,519
laugh fads laugh. Wow, he's nice to me, but he's

1274
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,599
he's crazy and he has a lot of issues. And

1275
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,480
this one guy, She's like, ew, gross, like taking screenshots

1276
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,880
of the guys. Wow.

1277
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: Look, uh, I don't I don't know, trying to meet

1278
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:46,440
a lot.

1279
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:51,679
Speaker 5: Of gross gross gross. Stephanie's dating dating service is officially

1280
01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:55,760
open for biz. I'm dying. I'm laughing at the comments.

1281
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,360
And then she keeps calling the bowt tie guy must

1282
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,679
not have gotten a messages because now he's adding a

1283
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,840
date to patron Saint.

1284
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: He's doing a date to the steakhouse.

1285
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:08,599
Speaker 4: He was like, I'm interested.

1286
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 5: Now he's like if I'm interested Patron Saint and all

1287
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,519
we're noticing, like who's like leveling up their posts?

1288
01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:16,039
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I saw that?

1289
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 5: Wow hard pass? Hell No, what the fuck? The one?

1290
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,280
He looks like he should be in a crime documentary

1291
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,360
for bodies in his basement. Zoom in on the swimsuit

1292
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:31,440
model poster on his walls, covering all the spackle, like

1293
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:33,159
this is just one friend.

1294
01:03:33,239 --> 01:03:34,039
Speaker 2: No, I saw that.

1295
01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:36,639
Speaker 3: I saw that picture and I did zoom in to

1296
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:38,280
see it, Like I was shocked.

1297
01:03:38,519 --> 01:03:41,159
Speaker 5: The swimsuit poster had me rolling and screams, I still

1298
01:03:41,159 --> 01:03:44,480
live with my mom. I sleep in my childhood bedroom.

1299
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: Well this was good.

1300
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,559
Speaker 5: He's ripped. Wow, Yeah, he's too hot, he's gonna want

1301
01:03:51,559 --> 01:03:54,239
one of your hot friends in the thirties, So now

1302
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,639
she feels like that one guy was too hot, like

1303
01:03:56,679 --> 01:03:58,920
it just comments. So when they're too hot, she's like,

1304
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,719
you're not gonna want me. I'm almost fifty. Yeah, but yeah,

1305
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:04,840
that's some examples.

1306
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:10,679
Speaker 3: Wow, and trying to meet someone where you're not losing

1307
01:04:10,719 --> 01:04:13,079
yourself so much as hard.

1308
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: And there's not.

1309
01:04:14,679 --> 01:04:16,159
Speaker 4: A lot of hot single guys here.

1310
01:04:16,599 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of middle of the roads. There's

1311
01:04:20,519 --> 01:04:24,400
not a lot of exceptional single men. I mean, how

1312
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:25,039
many do you.

1313
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:27,599
Speaker 2: Know exceptional single men?

1314
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that don't cheat, handsome, successful, really looking for a

1315
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:32,800
good woman.

1316
01:04:33,559 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: None.

1317
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:35,679
Speaker 4: You can't think of one.

1318
01:04:36,159 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: No, I mean a lot of my friends are married.

1319
01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:40,239
Speaker 5: Because they might be nice, but they might be poor,

1320
01:04:42,039 --> 01:04:45,400
or they're really hot, or they're a pig, or they're

1321
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:50,039
loaded and they're a cheater, but they're like think about it,

1322
01:04:50,119 --> 01:04:52,719
how many are loyal, good, handsome?

1323
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,239
Speaker 4: You're you're really saying zero?

1324
01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:56,079
Speaker 5: You are fucking popular?

1325
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:57,239
Speaker 2: Who me?

1326
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:03,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're saying zero? Moran has zero? Well oil hot

1327
01:05:03,519 --> 01:05:04,519
rich single.

1328
01:05:04,719 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: No, uh one, but he's kind of weird but but

1329
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:14,559
rich and you know, uh, is he hot or at

1330
01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:16,840
least handsome or Yeah, he keeps himself in good shape,

1331
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,480
but I think he's might be closing in on sixty.

1332
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: Uh you know what I mean. So there's that, and then.

1333
01:05:26,199 --> 01:05:30,039
Speaker 3: Everybody else I know is married or with somebody, yep,

1334
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:32,360
like you know, especially all my rich buddies. I mean

1335
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,000
they're yeah, they're locked down, or they're trying to or

1336
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,280
someone's trying to lock them down.

1337
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 4: Okay, so they have their backup ready.

1338
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: Uh that sucks.

1339
01:05:42,679 --> 01:05:45,159
Speaker 5: So it's like it encourages you to be a mistress

1340
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,639
to go after the rich, handsome guy that blows. That's

1341
01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:52,280
a good strategy though, women. I guess Bill says it's working.

1342
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,920
I don't know that. He's like, I.

1343
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: Don't know what. I'm not sure about that. I just

1344
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,320
they don't have a backup ready.

1345
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 3: I think that a lot of these guys are you know,

1346
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:08,000
and a lot of them are so busy. Look, being

1347
01:06:08,199 --> 01:06:11,199
rich is not so much about hard work, but it's

1348
01:06:11,559 --> 01:06:13,480
it's a lot of these guys are hungry.

1349
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,079
Speaker 2: They just that's who they are. They are a machine.

1350
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:17,159
They get up in the work.

1351
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, why not go to work conventions?

1352
01:06:19,719 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 5: Buy a ticket.

1353
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:23,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be a great thing, I think. Yeah, But

1354
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,599
I'm saying, like, these guys want you know, they're running businesses.

1355
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:29,880
They have multiple businesses, they have multiple things, they have

1356
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,480
things that can run without them present.

1357
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:34,719
Speaker 2: Right, it's a scalable operation.

1358
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 3: But at the same time, they got to be you know,

1359
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,719
there's times in the month they got to check in.

1360
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 5: Man, they got to they're committed then, So you can't think.

1361
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 3: Of one, No, I really can't. And I'm trying to, Like,

1362
01:06:48,039 --> 01:06:51,000
I know guys who are single, I would not I

1363
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,960
wouldn't send them to you got a chance, I wouldn't

1364
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:54,960
send them anyway.

1365
01:06:54,679 --> 01:06:57,159
Speaker 5: Especially one of them.

1366
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,599
Speaker 2: She's such a good catch, right, I'm sure. I'm sure, off.

1367
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,119
Speaker 4: Air, I'll tell you.

1368
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 5: I mean she's one with no kids.

1369
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:07,119
Speaker 4: I mean, she's just a freaking diamond.

1370
01:07:07,639 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1371
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 3: But why then does dice she have somebody? What is

1372
01:07:10,519 --> 01:07:13,239
it about her personality or what is it about.

1373
01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 5: Because her position is so large and viewed. Yeah, I

1374
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,519
don't think she wants to be like a horror dating.

1375
01:07:20,599 --> 01:07:22,079
She's very private.

1376
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: Because she's so she's not out.

1377
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,159
Speaker 4: Such a big business.

1378
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, So she's not out there a lot, is what

1379
01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:28,039
you're saying.

1380
01:07:28,679 --> 01:07:32,039
Speaker 5: No, I don't think she wants to tarnish her reputation.

1381
01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:36,360
She's very smart and mindful of that. She's probably the

1382
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,800
friend that's wild on vacation.

1383
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,519
Speaker 3: I just think like it's hard because people in this

1384
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:45,079
situation are trying to stay hopeful without being naive. Right,

1385
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:48,559
You're trying to decide if you should lower your expectations

1386
01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:51,119
or not, which seems to be something that you've talked about.

1387
01:07:51,199 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 5: If you're just mediocre, life's easy. There's so many options

1388
01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:00,440
like seriously, or maybe they should get up, get fat out,

1389
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,559
stop trying so goddamn hard.

1390
01:08:02,599 --> 01:08:03,679
Speaker 2: And then but you don't.

1391
01:08:03,519 --> 01:08:06,679
Speaker 3: Feel as good about yourself and stuff that either you know,

1392
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:07,719
doing all.

1393
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:09,559
Speaker 5: This for walk? If id nobody?

1394
01:08:09,719 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: Well, but to live long enough that somebody will come along,

1395
01:08:12,519 --> 01:08:13,800
I guess better.

1396
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 5: Better and not true because what are they going to

1397
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:17,680
do all this money?

1398
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 2: Is it? Like? I know? And I gotta think. Two

1399
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,840
people are like should I just delete the app and

1400
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,239
take a walk? What do I do?

1401
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,319
Speaker 3: And you know, we talk a lot about independence in

1402
01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:31,279
terms of people and self work. But I mean, sure,

1403
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:36,720
therapy absolutely can has entered into the chat with people.

1404
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,359
Speaker 2: But I think also there's.

1405
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 4: A lot of the therapists aren't available.

1406
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,359
Speaker 5: It's good that you're going to be a new one

1407
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:44,039
because there's people the waiting list.

1408
01:08:44,199 --> 01:08:47,119
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1409
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 3: There's a There's also something deeply human about wanting a connection, right,

1410
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,920
I mean that to me, and not wanting to feel

1411
01:08:56,239 --> 01:09:01,640
dramatic or I don't know, well even dramatic for wanting it,

1412
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,279
just wanting the human connection. I mean, I think that's important.

1413
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 5: I just maybe I love human connections. So even when

1414
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,479
I'm single, at the bar, I sit at the bar

1415
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,840
in the restaurant, not at the table because I want

1416
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:12,760
to talk to people.

1417
01:09:14,079 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 3: Think about this for a second, because you're you are

1418
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,239
different in terms of that stuff, right, You're different, And

1419
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:22,439
especially about the women you're talking about. I don't think

1420
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:27,600
they're like that. So maybe dating isn't harder today.

1421
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: Uh. And I'll say that because.

1422
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,520
Speaker 3: There will say it's harder because there aren't enough options.

1423
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,000
That's kind of what's come up, right that that seems

1424
01:09:37,039 --> 01:09:39,680
to be what's come up. And I wonder maybe it's

1425
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,159
harder because there's more noise and there's more performance. There's

1426
01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:47,319
the botox lips, there's the you know you understand, and

1427
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:49,800
more of this is fine energy. When it's not fine.

1428
01:09:50,199 --> 01:09:55,199
Speaker 5: I think men have to raise on themselves. Women have

1429
01:09:55,279 --> 01:09:56,560
to lower their expectation.

1430
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 4: I think that's the problem.

1431
01:09:59,039 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: I wish we could.

1432
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,119
Speaker 4: Girls too picky and these guys step it up.

1433
01:10:02,319 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, maybe playing video games instead of going

1434
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,960
to the gym when you're forty three and single, isn't

1435
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,439
the Maybe batter yourself.

1436
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:15,560
Speaker 3: I have a person through the podcast that I know Omaros,

1437
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,479
which is a high end men's clothing shop, and they'll

1438
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,039
do custom clothes for you. I wonder if I could

1439
01:10:22,079 --> 01:10:24,399
pull something together where we find.

1440
01:10:24,199 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 5: Somebody at shops there.

1441
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess we could do that, but that would

1442
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:35,520
that that's what you're looking for? Yeah, yeah, Like if

1443
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,319
you have a custom pair of pants made, it's going

1444
01:10:37,399 --> 01:10:40,000
to cost you five hundred bucks, right, so.

1445
01:10:41,239 --> 01:10:43,239
Speaker 5: Watch they're all going to be sixty and up.

1446
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:48,079
Speaker 3: Maybe, but are married And I would say that that too.

1447
01:10:48,399 --> 01:10:51,079
But a lot of times I wonder if we could

1448
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:53,000
do a thing where we make a guy over, remember

1449
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,560
the old makeover shows, you know what I mean, where

1450
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,000
we could make a guy over. Could we make a

1451
01:10:58,039 --> 01:11:03,000
guy over and and then like bring him out to

1452
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:08,640
like handpicked people that are looking and she can't be well.

1453
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 5: What if he's if he's a little chubby. We could

1454
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,880
even get him, get him a gym, you could like

1455
01:11:13,119 --> 01:11:13,760
box with him.

1456
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 4: Oh, it could be everything.

1457
01:11:16,079 --> 01:11:17,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, go shopping.

1458
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what I'm saying. And even and and look,

1459
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,199
even if it's not Omar's. I mean a lot of

1460
01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:24,199
people go, I don't want to spend that unclosed no

1461
01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:27,800
matter what. Okay, right, but even things like go to

1462
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,920
Men's warehouse instead of somewhere else, go to J Crew

1463
01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:34,960
instead of somewhere else. You'd be surprised at how right

1464
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,079
there in terms of price they are, and how much

1465
01:11:37,159 --> 01:11:37,960
better you look.

1466
01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 4: I mean my dad, my dad and mom.

1467
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 5: They're happily married. But I joke all that.

1468
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 4: I go, dad, mom never dies. You need to make over.

1469
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 5: The man's horrible, like classic bad dad dresser horrible. And

1470
01:11:53,079 --> 01:11:57,199
I laugh because like those white New balances, all white

1471
01:11:57,239 --> 01:11:58,319
socks are in style.

1472
01:11:58,640 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: They are.

1473
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the hawt girls will wear like the white

1474
01:12:02,199 --> 01:12:03,880
New Balances with the tall white socks.

1475
01:12:04,079 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: Okay, the hot girls, the hot girls.

1476
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's usually the it's the sixty plus guy.

1477
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,760
I used to call them grilling shoes, and I would

1478
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,880
say they came they came with like stabilizers on the side,

1479
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,760
so they would come out.

1480
01:12:15,039 --> 01:12:17,520
Speaker 5: Yes, but now hot girls are worms to have told you.

1481
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,399
Speaker 2: I see I have Facebook.

1482
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 5: Now I'm like, oh my god, now my dad thinks

1483
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:22,359
he's cool.

1484
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,199
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's really funny. I'll say.

1485
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,159
Speaker 3: Maybe it's moments like this that are a little chaotic, right,

1486
01:12:28,279 --> 01:12:31,199
this whole thing that you did and very public. They're

1487
01:12:31,239 --> 01:12:34,000
reminders that connection doesn't always come from swiping.

1488
01:12:34,079 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 2: It's just right. It doesn't always come from swiping.

1489
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes it comes from saying something out loud

1490
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,840
and seeing who's brave enough to respond to it.

1491
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,359
Speaker 5: But there was a lot of brave men and somewhere

1492
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,399
good middle of the road catches.

1493
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1494
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I hope one of those women

1495
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:51,840
would message them.

1496
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 2: But they're all afraid, afraid to message the guy.

1497
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:55,079
Speaker 4: Afraid.

1498
01:12:55,319 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 3: Right, we got to have the app where the women

1499
01:12:58,479 --> 01:12:59,359
make the move first.

1500
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:01,159
Speaker 2: Well, actually they have that.

1501
01:13:01,279 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 5: They haven't.

1502
01:13:02,039 --> 01:13:05,239
Speaker 2: No, we're oh they have that, yes, yeah.

1503
01:13:06,199 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 5: Just get pissed off when guys don't use accurate pictures.

1504
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,039
Speaker 2: Well they flow out of course, of course.

1505
01:13:13,279 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 5: You know, you take a lot of complaints on that,

1506
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,600
like they'll be like, oh, his pictures from twelve years ago,

1507
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,279
what the fuck is scary? I'm not messaging him.

1508
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 2: How do you know it's from twelve years?

1509
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 5: Is it chosen Facebook? When your profile pick was last updated?

1510
01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:29,359
So the what the hell?

1511
01:13:30,039 --> 01:13:30,279
Speaker 1: You know?

1512
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 5: Like it that women assume you're ugly if you don't

1513
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,800
put pictures. So even the guy, it's like guns, car jets, guns,

1514
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,439
car jets, go bills, go bills, It's like, well, what

1515
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,600
do you fucking look like? You must be we assume

1516
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,960
you're ugly. They all do. He's got no fucking pictures.

1517
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,399
He's a troll. The guy could be hot, but that's

1518
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,359
just society. They're like, why isn't he posting himself?

1519
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,560
Speaker 3: Well, most guys aren't gonna do selfies. Women do way

1520
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:57,279
more selfiees, but.

1521
01:13:57,319 --> 01:13:59,079
Speaker 5: They could have like the guys at the bar.

1522
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,199
Speaker 2: Oh I see, you're saying like yeah, yeah, yeah.

1523
01:14:02,079 --> 01:14:04,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, because no pictures is a red flag?

1524
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 2: Got you?

1525
01:14:05,119 --> 01:14:09,199
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and you I could read you pages of Yep,

1526
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:10,239
he's got no pictures.

1527
01:14:10,279 --> 01:14:11,319
Speaker 4: He must be bad.

1528
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, there could be.

1529
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:14,199
Speaker 4: Cutches out there.

1530
01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 5: We don't know.

1531
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: This is true.

1532
01:14:16,039 --> 01:14:18,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's Stephanie Kristen.

1533
01:14:18,399 --> 01:14:21,159
Speaker 2: Yes, okay on Facebook, scroll a.

1534
01:14:21,119 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 5: Couple down and they can see the post so they

1535
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,359
can maybe go shopping. So this is it a middle girl,

1536
01:14:29,359 --> 01:14:31,680
a middle guy have a fucking field day because there's

1537
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,119
no hobbies with jets and six packs. There's no fours

1538
01:14:34,199 --> 01:14:36,479
on there normal wait.

1539
01:14:37,039 --> 01:14:44,520
Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait wait, there's no foresors with a jett.

1540
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,560
Speaker 5: There're just a lot of middles. Actually, there's there isn't

1541
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:48,359
in the world.

1542
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,319
Speaker 2: That's the problem. Like you know, there isn't in the world.

1543
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 5: There's so many hot checkcent everywhere.

1544
01:14:55,039 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, because women take care of themselves better.

1545
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,680
I I can't say where is the problem? Yeah, well,

1546
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,720
get out of guys.

1547
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 5: Yeah all right, Well it's to the gym, guys and girls.

1548
01:15:06,039 --> 01:15:08,600
Fucking message first, Stephanie.

1549
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,359
Speaker 2: Uh, it's always great to see you. Goddamn. It's just

1550
01:15:11,399 --> 01:15:13,560
like I love when you do things like this. It's

1551
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,000
my favorite. It's my favorite.

1552
01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:17,239
Speaker 5: We'll see what happens when the song gets released.

1553
01:15:17,279 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 2: I can't wait for that either.

1554
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,520
Speaker 4: That's gonna be it's put myself out.

1555
01:15:20,399 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: There, Yeah it is, but that's not anything new.

1556
01:15:23,239 --> 01:15:26,359
Speaker 5: No, but I a song, a real song, not to.

1557
01:15:26,319 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 3: Advertise a house, I understand, but you put yourself out

1558
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,680
there with the videos and stuff like that.

1559
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,560
Speaker 2: So I think this will be great. I can't wait

1560
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:35,560
to see where it goes.

1561
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 5: Gott to see how long it takes us to make it.

1562
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,039
Speaker 3: And in the meantime, I'll say wherever you are in

1563
01:15:40,119 --> 01:15:44,840
your own story, single partner, divorce, starting over, happily avoiding

1564
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,640
dating altogether. I really hope this conversation made you feel

1565
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,319
a little less alone in that, and maybe just maybe

1566
01:15:52,359 --> 01:15:54,880
a little less weird for wanting something real right.

1567
01:15:55,359 --> 01:15:57,119
Speaker 4: It's a little I have a field like, go find

1568
01:15:57,159 --> 01:15:59,000
your person on their ladies.

1569
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,520
Speaker 3: Go find your person for Stephanie Kristen, I'm Bill Moran.

1570
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow. It must have been a dozen

1571
01:16:06,119 --> 01:16:08,520
of the market that dods. It wasn't one.

1572
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:09,239
Speaker 7: They get it.

1573
01:16:09,399 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 2: There wasn't one dodger.

1574
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,159
Speaker 5: It wasn't one telling