WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.639 --> 00:00:04.480 Super Bowl fifty nine. The matchup has said it is 2 00:00:04.519 --> 00:00:07.440 the Chiefs and the Eagles. It's a rematch of Super 3 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:11.160 Bowl fifty seven. Your early line, as case, is slight favorite. 4 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:14.240 Let's break it down though. Our next guest joins us 5 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:16.039 from time to time, and he's always good to give 6 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:18.000 us time because he's very busy now because. 7 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:18.559 He's very famous. 8 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:21.960 His name is Ben Solac from ESPN on a Monday, Ben, 9 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:22.879 Happy Monday, buddy. 10 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:23.359 How are we doing? 11 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:24.320 Hey? 12 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:27.519 Well, I'm good, so I don't have to. 13 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:29.800 Tell you that the internet is where cowards go to 14 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:32.600 feel brave, correct, I think so? 15 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:33.000 Yeah? 16 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:33.759 Okay, good? Good? 17 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.280 Because I look I just because I'll just tell you 18 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:39.679 I watched the video that you posted and I thought, no, 19 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:41.320 I'm I'm just saying I thought it made a ton 20 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:43.159 of sense. I'm not sure why you're getting as much 21 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:45.679 heat as you're getting, but you know, as somebody, and 22 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:49.000 I'm speaking for myself who's been uh, you know, in 23 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:52.280 the crossairs of like every fan base possible around here 24 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:55.000 and BYU fan trying to get me canceled for years online, 25 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:57.119 I just wanted to make sure that you're hanging in. 26 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:57.840 You're doing all right. 27 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:00.000 Thank you, man, I agree. I appreciate it. 28 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:02.920 And when it is not the first time. 29 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:04.519 I've had a take and then people get upset about 30 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.280 it won't be the last part of the job. 31 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:08.000 The good news that they say to the Super Bowl 32 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:09.799 for free, the bad news and people get magi on 33 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:10.239 the internet. 34 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:11.280 It's just like any other jobs. 35 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:13.280 Bats no biggy, fair enough. 36 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:15.959 So for the people out there that don't live online, first, 37 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:19.079 congratulations to you. Second of all, let's walk people through 38 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:21.959 what went down. You were breaking down with a piece 39 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:23.519 of video that I think you do as well as 40 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:24.359 anybody out there. 41 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:27.480 Why Josh Allen on that final throw. 42 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.840 That was miraculous that he got it to former you 43 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:32.079 Dalton Kink Do you thought he had a better look 44 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:34.159 to go to Khalil Shaker. 45 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:35.000 So let's hear about it. 46 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.200 Yeah. The Bills walk out empty, right, they have four 47 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:40.159 receivers to left, one receivers are the right, and then 48 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.640 they do something that they do a lot on fourth and. 49 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:43.760 Medium, third and medium. 50 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:46.879 They motioned Khali into the bath field and they snap 51 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.640 it while he's moving to the backfield. And most teams 52 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:51.359 when they snap the guy moved to the backfield, that 53 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:53.680 guy keeps running that direction. But the Bills like to 54 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:55.640 have him slam on the brakes and then run back 55 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:57.480 the way that he came, and then they'll throw it 56 00:01:57.480 --> 00:01:58.200 to him in the flat. 57 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:00.000 He usually had a lot of space to create Yuard 58 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.040 death to the cash. They did against the Chiefs. 59 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:04.000 Last year on a fourth and three right around this field, 60 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:06.519 converted and kept the drive going and eventually scored. 61 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:07.920 There's a common look for them. 62 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:10.919 Alan has the ability to go to Shakir right then 63 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:11.240 and there. 64 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:12.080 Right's the first read. 65 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:14.039 He's the first option, or he can try to read 66 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:14.680 out the rest. 67 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:16.080 Of the of the passing concept and he gets his 68 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:16.759 own coverage. 69 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:18.800 It's not the best look for that motion, and so 70 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.319 he decides not to throw out to Shakuir. And right 71 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.800 if he makes that choice, he's got two free rushers 72 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:25.439 coming down the pipe at him right, So he makes 73 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:27.039 a choice again, I throwing this to Shakier. I'm going 74 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:29.000 to try to create something out to my right, create 75 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:31.759 something in space. He makes the first two rushers miss. 76 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:33.479 There's a third guy who's there, turns it back to 77 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:35.199 the inside and I have to heave up a prayer ball, 78 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:37.800 almost caught by Dalton Kincaid, And so Alan made an 79 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:41.719 incredible throw and I highly high difficulty physical play. He 80 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:45.400 probably could have made another high difficulty physical play and 81 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:48.000 made that throw to Shakir in space. You're throwing the 82 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:50.159 ball quite far behind the line of scrimmage. There's a 83 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:51.759 long way to go for the first down. But again, 84 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.240 the Bills have done this on four and three multiple 85 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:56.360 times over the last season. It's it's a designer play 86 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:58.000 from Joe Brady, So I thought. 87 00:02:57.840 --> 00:02:58.319 Yeah, you could. 88 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:01.319 You could have I think a different quarterback, a quarterback 89 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:04.319 maybe less big of a moment, with less mahomes. 90 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.719 Fear on his back, playing in Kansas City, trying and 91 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:07.439 get to the Super Bowl. Maybe he would have just 92 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:08.960 trusted the structure to play a little bit more. 93 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:10.280 Maybe it would have just panic a little bit more, 94 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:12.080 just strought it to some other guy. 95 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:14.319 You solve this problem for me. Alan tried to put 96 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:15.599 the team on his back very. 97 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:17.680 Nearly did pretty much should have right, he should have 98 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:18.159 caught the ball. 99 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:20.560 But it is interesting to think about that play designed 100 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:22.080 to go to Sekir. What would have happened if the 101 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:22.800 pass went to him. 102 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:25.840 That's all and entirely fair, and you back it up 103 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:28.560 with video. I think it was Ryan Fitzpatrick, who kind 104 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:31.439 of went at you and talked about the you know, 105 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:33.719 you know the urgency of that moment when you have 106 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:36.759 two free rushers kind of going at you, and you 107 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:38.319 know you just kind of do what you can to 108 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:40.439 try to make him play. What what's your reaction to 109 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:44.039 kind of that portion of this conversation that Casey had 110 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:47.479 two free pass rushers, that we were beaten down on 111 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:48.479 Josh pretty quickly. 112 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:52.479 Now, Ryan de'stally right. Ryan's point is like, you Ben 113 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.360 have never been in a pocket and experience those two 114 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:55.039 free rushers. 115 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:57.280 So you think Alan had time to make this decision 116 00:03:57.439 --> 00:03:59.520 and the physical ability to make this throw. I don't 117 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:03.360 think it fits, and I disagree right findamentally, It's one 118 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:05.199 of those things where it's not like I said, it 119 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:07.360 was a certain Coverridge sentences like no, actually, it's it's 120 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:09.800 that coverage. It's like, oh shoot, like you've seen it right, 121 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.240 I'm not seeing it right fitthite disagree about the amount 122 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:14.120 of time Allen had and if he is physically capable 123 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.240 of making that throw. Most people are going to agree 124 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.959 to fifth had an eleven year career as anipal quarterback. 125 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:19.920 I don't fall to that. 126 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:22.319 I don't know, my job is to watch Josh Allen's play. 127 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:23.120 Didn't get to play. 128 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:25.800 They wasn't born as veg as Josh Allen, unfortunately. 129 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:27.199 But my job is to watch Josh. 130 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:29.399 Allen play and try to consider what could have happened 131 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:31.439 on some plays, what should have happened on other plays. 132 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:32.920 And I tried to do my job as well as 133 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:33.199 I can. 134 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.319 If you're like, hey, the NFL quarterbacks, that it could 135 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:37.160 have happened, that it could have happened, all more power 136 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:37.959 to you. I don't know. 137 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.600 I've watched Josh Allen make them really spectacular. 138 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:42.240 Throws, including the throw he did make on that play, 139 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:44.240 so I think the thrown maskings to make as well 140 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:47.199 within his physical capabilities. But it's a disagreement between two 141 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:48.920 guys whose job it is to try to figure out. 142 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.000 How football should have gone. And Fitz does really good work. 143 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:52.120 I try to do really good. 144 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:52.519 Work as well. 145 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:54.720 Fair enough, fair enough, all right, moving on here. 146 00:04:54.800 --> 00:05:00.480 So my basketball life in the nineties specifically was steeped 147 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:03.240 in two teams. One was the Utah Jazz and the 148 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:05.879 other was the New York Knicks. And the one guy 149 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.759 that had in common that took rings off their fingers 150 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:11.759 every single year team, like was Mike was Michael Jordan? 151 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:17.079 What is the Patrick Mahomes analogy? I've heard it all 152 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.240 day Tiger on Sundays Messy. If you're a soccer fan, 153 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:24.560 the Jordan one feels The Jordan one feels the most 154 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.560 on point to me, because the bigger the moment was 155 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:30.279 with Mike, the bigger that his performance was, and he 156 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:32.800 always seemed to get it done in the NBA Finals 157 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:34.879 where he won all six times he was there, And 158 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:37.480 the bigger the moment is for Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, 159 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:40.199 the bigger their answers are to the questions that are asked, 160 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:44.360 what's the best Patrick Mahomes analogy that you've heard or 161 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:45.399 maybe you have one of your own. 162 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:47.800 I like the Jordan one, and it's tough for me. 163 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:50.040 I don't have a great frame of reference because first 164 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:51.439 the I'm I'm a younger guy, but then I also 165 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:53.439 I grew up in like a football only household, and 166 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:55.279 so a lot of times the crossbod analogies to me 167 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:57.600 are based off just like my very like you know, 168 00:05:57.759 --> 00:05:59.680 skin deep understanding of some of these players. 169 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:01.399 I do think the Jordan one, where. 170 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.439 There's a sense of inevitability there's a sense of this 171 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:07.399 man equals championship, and the route to which he gets 172 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:09.439 there may not look the way we always expected to look. 173 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:11.720 And he had these multiple errors of his career, but 174 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:13.399 the guy's equal to championship. 175 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:15.759 He was that caliber of player in those caliber of moments. 176 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:17.920 I think that's probably the best sport. 177 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:19.160 The sport one that comes to mind. 178 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:21.439 Playing the homes just like playing quicksand right, I mean, 179 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:22.399 it's like playing a black hole. 180 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:23.839 Okay, you can do stuff in the middle. 181 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:26.279 We all know the end of the story, right, it's 182 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.199 the inevitability of there's just a force that draws you 183 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:31.879 in to a game that's happened through the fourth quarter. 184 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:33.279 That's a one score. 185 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:35.079 Game where you've gotten love and banged up, and they've 186 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:36.639 got a lot bit banged up, and you've gotten your 187 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:38.480 stops and they've gotten the stops and you've gotten your 188 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:41.279 lucky breaks. But Patrick Malves is just gonna lean on 189 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:43.240 you a little bit too much for a little bit 190 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:44.959 too long, and eventually you're gonna break. 191 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:45.120 Right. 192 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:47.959 This Bill's team man three and a half minutes left 193 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:49.959 down by three. The Bills. 194 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.519 If you interviewed every single Buffalo Bill and you say Hey, 195 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:55.160 if I give you three and a half minutesest in 196 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:57.279 the game, all three timeouts, you're down by three, you 197 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:57.800 have the ball. 198 00:06:57.920 --> 00:06:58.680 Where you take that? 199 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:01.000 They all would have said, yes, I guess it says it. 200 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:02.959 Yes, we could do it. We have the ball, we 201 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:05.160 have controlled the clock. We're gonna go beat this team. 202 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:06.000 And then they did it. 203 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:08.279 And that's that's credit to the chief defense. 204 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:10.160 And obviously the Chiefs often fixed them the first time. 205 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:12.240 That's necessary, but that's what it feels like to play 206 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.959 the Chiefs. You can even get that situation that you 207 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:16.519 were hoping for. We have we have a chance to 208 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:18.720 go win the game as the clock expires, and yet 209 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:21.120 still you just can't escape the poll of these guys. 210 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:21.959 It's very challenging. 211 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:27.560 So you'll know this was was Peyton Owen six against Brady? 212 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:29.879 Was that the number? He was oho and six before 213 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:30.959 he was able to break through? 214 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:34.639 I think, so I'll do all check right now, I would. 215 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:35.879 Say, okay, yeah, something like that. 216 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:38.680 So instead of making a crossboard analogy, maybe we can 217 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:41.000 just stick with the NFL, because I need to kick 218 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:43.759 the tires with you on where you're at with Josh now. 219 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.600 I mean, I said on Friday, Ben I'm riding with 220 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.079 the Bills. I feel like it's Josh's time. Then I said, 221 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:52.839 I fully anticipate sitting on my couch Sunday evening shaking 222 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:55.240 my head, going you idiot, which is exactly what happened. 223 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.240 But I have a hard time believing in twenty eight 224 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:00.360 he's never gonna be able to get it done. Today, 225 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:02.319 where are you at, simply with Josh Allen? 226 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:07.199 Yeah, so it was six straight and absolutely I really 227 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:10.319 hope when I sit down with my daughter, sit down 228 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:12.399 with my kids, oh, you know whatever, it's twenty years 229 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:13.920 from now, I'm going to be able to look back. 230 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:15.879 At the history of NFL football and circle the Josh 231 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:18.720 Allen MVP season and circle the Josh Allen Super Bowl 232 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:21.680 victory and say, you know, that is an accurate reflection. 233 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:23.680 Of the quarterback that I watched. But the reality is that. 234 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:25.800 We have gotten the best Josh Allen season he's ever seen. 235 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:28.199 It was the lowest interception rate in the season. 236 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:28.920 Of his entire career. 237 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:32.320 Not only was it his best season in terms of 238 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:35.159 not taking sacks in his career, it's from a sack 239 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:38.080 of pressure dropback ratio, It's probably the best season for 240 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:40.559 avoiding sacks that we've ever seen. We just got the 241 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.279 best Josh Allen we've ever seen, and Lamar is probably 242 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:45.120 gonna win MVP, and Josh isn't going to win a 243 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.840 super Bowl. And so it is my firm belief for Josh, 244 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:50.679 and I said it's about Lamar after he lost to Allan. 245 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:53.519 My firm belief is that a quarterback this good, it's 246 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.200 going to eventually win a Super Bowl. 247 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:55.519 Right that. 248 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:58.639 If I understand anything about football, it says the quarterback 249 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:00.519 kind of sets the ceiling in your floor. And these 250 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:03.559 guys say extremely high feelings and extremely high floors. The 251 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:06.039 problem is that fifteen is just sitting on top of 252 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.080 this conference right now. Mahomes and the Chiefs are are 253 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:10.919 they they feeling again that immovable object, that black hole, 254 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.600 that inevitability. It's the sort of thing where the dam 255 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:17.919 doesn't break until it does. Right, You accumulate hits, and 256 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:19.279 you try, and you try, and you fail, and you 257 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:21.559 fail again and again and again. But at some point, 258 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:24.240 you know, Ravens last year had the home game, you know, 259 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:25.679 Builds this year, we're a better. 260 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:26.159 Team on paper. 261 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:29.120 At some point somebody gets it up, breaks to beat 262 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.039 the Chiefs the way that Joe Burrow beat the Chiefs 263 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.039 and then the dam breaks, Right, Joe Burrow beat the 264 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:36.000 Chiefs in the playoffs in twenty twenty one. We are 265 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:39.000 still talking about it four years later, right, Bengals happened? Done? 266 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.039 Anything really has a team since then. But once you 267 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.000 get that one wain, once you get that metal around 268 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.879 your chest, you ascend above the feeling of it. 269 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:47.840 You say, Okay, we know we can beat these guys 270 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:50.320 in January football. So I believe joshing Room win a 271 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:51.120 Super Bowl, I really do. 272 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:53.000 I believe with Marston went a Super Bowl, I really do. 273 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:55.759 I sure would like if it already happened, because we're 274 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:57.399 starting to get into our late twenty and you know, 275 00:09:57.480 --> 00:09:59.720 you know, hits so to accumulate, but they're too good. 276 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:01.759 Of course, I think it's gonna happen. Yeah. 277 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.320 And the other thing is you reference not just Mahomes 278 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:07.799 being on top of the conversation, but you know Jordan 279 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:10.679 late in his career, in his thirties, You're like, all right, 280 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:12.440 he's going to go away at some point. Mahomes is 281 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:17.879 twenty nine and ultimately for teams to win NBA championships 282 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:19.879 when Mike was it, you know, in his heyday are 283 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.120 at his prime. They had to wait for him to 284 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:25.519 trade his basketball shoes for baseball cleats for two years, 285 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:28.320 which allowed a lajo On in the Rockets to go 286 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:30.399 win a couple of championships, and both the Knicks and 287 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:33.879 the Jazz blew it with their opportunity when Mike was 288 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:36.759 you know, Mike was not playing basketball. 289 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:39.360 Is it going to be something similar? Like if Mahomes 290 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:40.840 is healthy. 291 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:43.799 Every single year, he's only a year older than Josh, 292 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:46.840 you know, are are they going to have to wait 293 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.759 for him to either get hurt or go away for 294 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:50.919 a while in your opinion? 295 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:52.960 I don't think so. 296 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:55.480 I mean, that might end up being what happens. 297 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:58.120 Right, you end up getting a gifty Mahomes, Right, Buccaneers 298 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.519 and chief Super Bowl when that game came, Like, maybe. 299 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:02.279 That's what ends up being. 300 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.320 But again, like this year kind of should have been 301 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:07.559 in the air. They didn't have great basket backs off 302 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.039 the left side. You know, Kelsey is starting to really 303 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:12.120 fall off terms of his efficacy. The Chiefs are going 304 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:13.200 to roll in the next year and a lot of 305 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.240 the same problems how they have this year. And so 306 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:18.240 this is this is a beatable team. 307 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.799 It is we have to remember in the NFL playoffs, we. 308 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:23.000 Played best of one series, right, we don't play best 309 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:25.759 to sevens. You think about the way that you can 310 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:29.000 kind of accumulate some confidence, you can you can experiment 311 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:31.720 and find some weaknesses in an NBA series, playing seven 312 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:34.240 games in an MLB series, different pictures, different looks. In 313 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:35.919 the NFL, we played best of one, And so when 314 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:38.120 the Chiefs beat the Bills like this, we say, all right, yeah, 315 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:39.320 the Chiefs are never going to lose. 316 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:40.399 Man a lot of. 317 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:42.679 Universes where the Chiefs lose this game, right, calls go 318 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:44.399 a different way on fourth and one, you know, the 319 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:46.840 fourth dunkin k catches the pass that we have to 320 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.320 remember that even though we get that outcome, since it 321 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:53.120 is the best of one series, it feels finite field 322 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:54.919 of one hundred percent yes, zero percent no, when that's 323 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.279 not necessarily the case. And so I think they can 324 00:11:57.320 --> 00:11:59.919 beat the Chiefs without something drastic or dramatic happening to 325 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:00.399 Ma Holmes. 326 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:02.639 With that said, and something draftic. 327 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:04.559 Or dramatic happens to Homes, yeah, you can bet the 328 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.120 Bills and the Ravens are a meeting going to shove 329 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.480 every chip they have all in because that's that's the 330 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:09.840 best window that they've had quite some. 331 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.360 Time before we get to Commander's Eagles. I'm just gonna 332 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.799 ask you, I'm I'm not. I never have been. I 333 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.039 don't do the job as a blame the refs guy 334 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:23.360 unless it's completely egregious. And it's really easy to say 335 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.840 that because Travis Kelcey is dating Taylor Swift. Roger Goodell 336 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:30.559 wants the attention continue to continue for his league. It's 337 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.080 not like they need it. I don't believe in conspiracy theories. 338 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:36.080 I'm not a wormhole guy either, but you see the 339 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:39.679 fourth down that the potentially buffalo should have been rewarded 340 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:41.840 a first down, and a lot of people been are 341 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:44.039 simply just drawing the line, and I think it's kind 342 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:44.480 of lazy. 343 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:47.080 But is there any meat on that phone in your opinion? 344 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.080 No, I think that what people really underestimate. 345 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:53.960 Then are a few things in my opinion. 346 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:56.200 But first is that man, if the Lease were rigging gains, 347 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.320 I promise you they'd they would like the Bills to 348 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.360 have attended the Super Bowl the way public sent minutes 349 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:03.559 right now with the excitement of getting kind of Josh 350 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:06.399 Allen that Super Bowl win, and you know, oh, contender 351 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:08.159 to the chief and think about the amount of content 352 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:11.679 we would manufacture it if Allen finally knocked off the 353 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:13.480 Mahomes and they went they beat the Eagles in the 354 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:15.639 Super Bowl, there's a new king of the AFC Alan 355 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:18.679 Mahomes burrow, Lamar, how do you rank up? Like my problem? 356 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:21.440 If you from a content perspective, like a three P 357 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:23.879 is cool, but it doesn't last nearly as long as 358 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:25.759 the new champion Bills with their first Super Bowl up 359 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:28.159 as a franchise. So one, if we weren't riggad things, 360 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:30.360 we'd we'd be doing it the other way. The second 361 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:32.399 thing is that's really hard to rag things man like 362 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:34.320 you think it wouldn't have gone out right now if 363 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:38.039 if the Chiefs were very clearly getting it a favorable 364 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:40.720 calls intentionally. Now, I think that the Chiefs play a 365 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:43.559 lot of primetime games, and a lot of people watch 366 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:46.320 those primetime games and see them much more than they 367 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:49.080 see the Carolina Panthers play, and the Chicago Bears play, 368 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:50.759 and then the Minnesota Vikings play. 369 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:52.360 And in those primetime games, the. 370 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:55.440 Chiefs, who have won seventeen straight one score games, it 371 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:58.039 is an NFL record. Well, when you play seventeen one 372 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:00.320 score games and you win them all. Yes, there's going 373 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:02.559 to feel like an outsized number of calls that are 374 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:04.919 benefiting you and you alone, and one score games. One 375 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:06.679 play can make the difference. So we have a lot 376 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:08.639 of televised games and a lot of one score games. 377 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:11.159 There's an availability by us here. More people have seen 378 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:13.840 favorable calls through the Chiefs way, just because more people 379 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:15.679 have watched the Chiefs than have watched any other team. 380 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:17.600 So to me, there's no credim to it. 381 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:19.320 But yeah, I mean, anytime we get a call, I 382 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:20.600 get to ask for my mom, I get to ask 383 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:22.240 for my brother in law, I got to text my cousin, 384 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:23.799 I gets my buddy's trying to talk to him ten 385 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:25.639 years because they all want to know what the NFL's 386 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:25.879 got to do. 387 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:26.679 Rigaby's games. 388 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:28.399 A couple of local questions for you. 389 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.840 Andy Reid ties Don Shula second most Super Bowls of 390 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.000 all time? Should they win the Super Bowl? What's that 391 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:38.000 conversation sound like? And I'm not like, hey, what's his legacy? 392 00:14:38.039 --> 00:14:39.759 But he's got to be on the shortlist and one 393 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:41.039 of the best to ever do this job. 394 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:45.279 Yeah, absolutely, And we and you know, we just spent 395 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:46.679 a lot of time talking about Josh and what he 396 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:48.440 can look like For Josh, we got to remember how 397 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:50.360 we talked about Andy in the early two thousands, right 398 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:53.120 with those Eagles teams, Andy can get it done. Andy's 399 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:54.679 never going to be the guy in the postseason. 400 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:56.000 His teams consistently fail. 401 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:58.720