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Odion 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,439 Men's were Odion Menswear dot Com. All right, let's welcome 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,439 in one of the greatest running backs in BA football, 28 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:27,560 Stree obviously arguably the best running back in BA football history. 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,000 We got Jamal swag Daddy Williams on the line. 30 00:01:31,079 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: What's up, Jamal, hey Man, blessed to have you here, man, 31 00:01:36,239 --> 00:01:37,319 So great to see you. Man. 32 00:01:37,519 --> 00:01:40,519 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. I like being out here. I feel 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,159 good out here. Yeah, and I'm crazy for me. I 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,680 think it's crazy that we're outside, but you know, like 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,079 we were literally outside in a tent in front of 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,840 Crumbles Bro. 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: I never think I'll be out here right now. 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,239 Speaker 2: Well, dude, I'll just say I'm grateful you're here. 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: That's good. I'm bressed up. 40 00:02:01,319 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: I got my I got my I got my crocs 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,159 all with the fuzz on the inside, no socks, you. 42 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. I'm a real utarian dude. Like, so, like, 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,840 when did you move to Utah? 44 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,719 Speaker 2: How long you been in Utah, and like, how has 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,039 that transition been from the off season there in New 46 00:02:18,159 --> 00:02:19,199 Orleans to present? 47 00:02:19,719 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: Uh, well, I say, since I've been here. When I 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,120 got here, by you, I always lived here. 49 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:25,879 Speaker 3: Okay, so you've always kind of lived here in the 50 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:26,360 off season. 51 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:28,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I always knew I was gonna live here. Like 52 00:02:28,759 --> 00:02:30,840 I got too many family members. I got two family 53 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,639 members that one living campus, my family out there, and 54 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,319 then I had family in South Jordan. So I've always 55 00:02:36,319 --> 00:02:38,120 had ways of just being out here. 56 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: And I love like I. 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: Love Utah because this is really where I've learned about 58 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,280 true family members too, genuine genuine love people who actually 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,000 care for you so like, and I just love it 60 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:52,319 that they treat me just as a person and not 61 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,680 just what I do and who I am. You know 62 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,000 what I've done in my life as Accolade. So I'm 63 00:02:58,039 --> 00:02:59,840 just grateful to be out here. And I really just 64 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,159 enjoy being out here and seeing my daughter too. 65 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: She go out here. 66 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: She is you Talian. She made me into one. So 67 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,719 I moved closer just so I could be closer to her, 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,439 and now she got her daddy all around. But it's 69 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,120 it's so funny because I went to her middle school. 70 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: They had like a. 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: A walker through a marathon, like, but they just walking 72 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,479 around running around the block, right, tell me why I 73 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,840 ran that thing three times? Like first, I was like, 74 00:03:25,879 --> 00:03:28,280 but I really turned into a like a practice for me. 75 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,240 So I ran it with her. I told her, you know, 76 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,080 I'm a beat you on this. I'm just I'm gonna 77 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,400 beat you for sure. Then the second time, some kids, 78 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,719 them a little kids, like hey you, Jamal's like yeah, 79 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,840 it's like you want to go run. I was like, 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,280 all right, sure, you know I'm not gonna take down 81 00:03:41,319 --> 00:03:45,599 a challenge. I'm gonna beat these little kids. I beat them. 82 00:03:46,199 --> 00:03:48,319 And then the third time my daughter said let's run 83 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:52,039 another one. I'm like, oh man, all right, let's do it. 84 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,919 And I beat her on that one. And then after 85 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,120 I got done, I'm literally exhausted. I just got crowded 86 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,599 by a bunch of little kids pulling out shoes. Who's 87 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:03,199 putting out anything? They just hey, can't get an autograph. 88 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,599 I'm like, I want, first of all, I'm just like, 89 00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:07,400 first of all, y'all too young to even know who 90 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:11,080 I am. But someone really new, like they like, I 91 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:13,479 know I'm getting old. When I hear man. I used 92 00:04:13,479 --> 00:04:15,199 to watch you when I was young, when I was 93 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,439 a child, like, oh my god, only like ten years out. 94 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:22,439 Speaker 3: But I love it. It's great. I think it's even 95 00:04:22,439 --> 00:04:24,000 more funny because my daughter be with me. 96 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: And her face expressions of when she see like people 97 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,519 are crowding me and ask me for stuff. Because now 98 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,680 she's she kind of figuring out like all right, my 99 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:33,120 dad's he's cool. 100 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah he cool out here. Her face is like can 101 00:04:37,439 --> 00:04:40,600 y'all back up? Like get away? This is my dad exactly, 102 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,920 like he's not that cool. 103 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: And I love every minute of it because she's like 104 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,480 my spirit animal. I'd be my introvertesce, she's my spirit 105 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,279 animal about that. 106 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: But you know, I'm respectful, humble, I'm grateful. 107 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:53,879 Speaker 4: For anybody to come up and you want, you know, 108 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,720 want an autograph or something. So but she's just great. 109 00:04:56,759 --> 00:04:59,079 I just I love being out here being closer than her. 110 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,560 So and yeah, this is the most I've ever had 111 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,639 with it though. But we having so much fun though. 112 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,199 It's great. 113 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: Well, dude, obviously you know I can speak from like Cougarnation, 114 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,439 and I know you feel the love. Bu fans love you. 115 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,160 They they they love seeing you at the b YU Games. 116 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:19,160 Oh my god, you know what I mean, they you know, because. 117 00:05:18,959 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: That's paid actors, by the way that I pay Ronald Well. 118 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:25,040 You know, I pay Ronald Well to like say all 119 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:25,600 these things. 120 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: But it has been fun to see you just in 121 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:31,240 the community and have to be what you games right, 122 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:35,120 just coming back and you know, supporting the squad and 123 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,199 and seeing the young bucks these you know, I know 124 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,560 you you're close with Tyler and and you're seeing l 125 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,800 J run the ball and I mean he boy on the. 126 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: Head on the sidelines. 127 00:05:47,319 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: Like those first two games, he'll redded and him not 128 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,360 you know, take you to the house. I'll be like 129 00:05:52,959 --> 00:05:58,199 by like you gotta hook. I'm like you were pulling 130 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,199 up from Toledo when you were just like yeah, I 131 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,560 just because I just you know, we all like challenges. Love. 132 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:08,000 When I used to have people who were older than me, 133 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,240 or like people I looked up to, or people who 134 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,120 were just you know, they were better than me. Coaches, players, 135 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,839 people are of the lives and they were like, you know, 136 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,959 they on me saying, hey, you can do that, you 137 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,079 can do better. This is what you was supposed to 138 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,439 look at like a lone of a lot of us 139 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,519 had that like and I had Harvey for that, and 140 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,560 so when I was growing up, I had Harvey for it. 141 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,560 I still remember my freshman year going in and it 142 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:32,639 was him like taking me. I think it was Mike 143 00:06:33,439 --> 00:06:38,839 David Foot was still there, they too, Paul uh Uh 144 00:06:40,439 --> 00:06:45,160 Adam was Adam there too, My boy with the full 145 00:06:45,199 --> 00:06:53,759 halt he played there for the Bengals, was it Uh? 146 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,800 And he was, And so I still remember that, like 147 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,639 in the summer my freshman year, just the people I 148 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,000 had around at the time, and then Harvey taking us 149 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,319 with drills and showing. 150 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: Us, you know, just what he'd be going through. And 151 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:07,680 he was just showing, you know. 152 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: Watching us and just giving us as much as he 153 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,560 can before that season. So I just try to do 154 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,199 the same for them and let him know, you know, 155 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:16,439 I'm always here for him. Just let them know they 156 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,639 always ask me anything. If you got questions about anything, 157 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:20,600 I help you with it. 158 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,519 Speaker 3: So I just love being back at just a place 159 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:26,120 that let me come back. Shoot, I could just walk. 160 00:07:26,199 --> 00:07:28,279 Speaker 4: I'm glad I ain't got no access to the locker 161 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,759 room yet. I'm still trying to get that. You gotta 162 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:30,160 get that figure. 163 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: Pres Once I get. 164 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: The fingerprint, I know I'm one hundred percent stilled in 165 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:36,240 here for sure. 166 00:07:36,439 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: But I'm glad I could go there. 167 00:07:38,079 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: They allow me to go and work out, stay in shape, 168 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:43,399 ready to go, like you know, just this new free 169 00:07:43,399 --> 00:07:45,759 agency is what it is right now for me. 170 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:48,519 Speaker 3: But and I'm just blessed and I'm grateful to be 171 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,040 in just a. 172 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,839 Speaker 4: Positive area where I keep my mind set ready to 173 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:54,720 go and I'm ready to ready to play anytime, and 174 00:07:55,079 --> 00:07:56,800 I have a place where I can just stay ready 175 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,480 and be blessed. 176 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,199 Speaker 2: You love that, man, Well, blessings be on you and 177 00:08:00,199 --> 00:08:02,759 the fam. So grateful. I mean, I'm looking at your career, 178 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,120 Mat it's been awesome to she what you've been able 179 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,800 to accomplish in the NFL. But also like to me, 180 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,319 you know, obviously it's great to watch you do what 181 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,639 you do right and run the football, and especially that 182 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:15,879 that ye're in Detroit under Campbell where you toed it 183 00:08:15,959 --> 00:08:19,839 for seventeen touchdowns all like setting records like and eclipsing 184 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:23,079 Barry Barry Sanders record, like like I grew up with Barry. 185 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: Like that, I get all that credit to my line. 186 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 4: I give my credits to DC, Ben Jonson and Deuce 187 00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:34,080 just for them for just believe in me and just 188 00:08:34,279 --> 00:08:36,399 in my abilities and what I do as a runner 189 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:38,480 and how I ran the ball, and for them to 190 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:41,279 put me in the right positions and the right places 191 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:43,039 for me to excel at what I do. 192 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: So I appreciate. 193 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 4: Them so much for that, just for knowing me as 194 00:08:47,279 --> 00:08:49,440 a player and knowing how I ran the ball and 195 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,399 knowing how to make me excel. I appreciate them for 196 00:08:53,399 --> 00:08:54,919 fooding me in those opportunities. 197 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's always been violent. It's always been downhill. It's 198 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,440 always been like fos scurity. It's always been like just 199 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,879 like run through face. That's what That's what you've been 200 00:09:01,879 --> 00:09:04,480 doing since you know. I mean when I pulled up 201 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:06,600 tape from from high school, you know, and in the 202 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,960 know Fontana, like what you guys were doing out there. 203 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,679 It's always been you know, Jamal Williams brand of running 204 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,240 the football. 205 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 206 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: Hey man, you told I remember you're like sixteen. I 207 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,039 remember being in the locker room. You're like sixteen years old, 208 00:09:22,039 --> 00:09:24,440 fifteen years however old you were. You're like a on 209 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,960 a visit and you're in the locker room postgame. I 210 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,000 see his bright eyed, like Jamal Williams kind of underrated underrecruiter. 211 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,600 I'm like, and I'm talking to coaches and they're like, 212 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:36,159 this guy's gonna be great. Uh, this guy's gonna be 213 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,120 the future if we can get them here. And you 214 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,159 got some late offers and somehow, some way, boy, you gotcha. 215 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:44,000 And I remember chatting with you about your recruitment and 216 00:09:44,039 --> 00:09:46,039 you gave it's all about mentorship, right, You're talking about 217 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,440 mentoring these guys. You've had great mentors as well, Luke Harvey, like, 218 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,360 you go down the list of great mentors. 219 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,759 Speaker 3: But I believe your recruiter, if I'm not mistaken. 220 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: Was the officer Mark Weber White Mark Weber bro dog man, dude. 221 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: I love him so much. His bald mustache, that's my guy. Man. 222 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,879 Speaker 2: People don't know that, Like I mean, I've tweeted it 223 00:10:07,919 --> 00:10:10,679 out before, but people don't know that Mark Webber was 224 00:10:10,759 --> 00:10:12,279 your recruiter and got you the provo. 225 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he my dog he. I appreciate it for everything. 226 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: Even when I got down here, he let me come 227 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,200 to his house, hang out, chill until I got to 228 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,519 my feet. And then he the reason I met one 229 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:25,600 of my Utah families because he introduced us at One 230 00:10:25,639 --> 00:10:27,799 of my sisters has spider Biffield and she was a 231 00:10:27,879 --> 00:10:30,600 true Blue hero, but she she was a Triublue hero 232 00:10:30,639 --> 00:10:32,480 where I wasn't here yet, but I met them at 233 00:10:32,519 --> 00:10:36,960 the True Blue reunion every year, so I met her 234 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:39,960 my my younger brother stocked it at the same time. 235 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,000 And then from that day it went from I got 236 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,759 invited to Sunday dinner to like that was like once 237 00:10:46,799 --> 00:10:50,480 a month, to every other week to every week to 238 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,399 should we start telling that he part of the family now? 239 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,679 Because I just can't. I was like, can I come 240 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,200 over there more than just Sunday? 241 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: I just got done with the practice, got come up. Yeah. 242 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,000 I was like, cauz, this is this is literally family. 243 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,399 Speaker 4: Like I it was the first time I actually like 244 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,039 play board games, apples to apples and stuff like that. 245 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:16,039 Like I never played family board games, and like it 246 00:11:16,159 --> 00:11:19,399 was part of like the family week, you know what 247 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,159 I mean. This is really where I actually learned just 248 00:11:23,159 --> 00:11:25,600 just genuine love. Like for me, it wasn't I didn't 249 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:27,399 have all that well, I didn't have that growing up. 250 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: Really. 251 00:11:27,919 --> 00:11:30,039 Speaker 4: I'm grateful for my mom and how she raises me 252 00:11:30,039 --> 00:11:33,639 and my sister, but we didn't have the I didn't 253 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,200 have the vision of what a whole family looked like, 254 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,559 and what a week of genuine love is with a family, 255 00:11:40,759 --> 00:11:43,440 And so just to like being that for when I 256 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,799 was in college and being able to have that till 257 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:48,639 now and forever now, I'm just grateful for it. It's 258 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,840 just a blessing. I'm grateful for coming here because I 259 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,639 didn't know what was in store for me. I just 260 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,480 was just enjoying the ride. But I'm just blessed for 261 00:11:57,919 --> 00:12:00,240 all the positive people that came out of this. I'm 262 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,240 grateful for being here now to be able to do 263 00:12:02,279 --> 00:12:06,000 the same thing as in spread the joy, spread blessings, 264 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,360 spread the ones that they look up to me. Just 265 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,240 know how I'll help you any way I can if 266 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:14,120 you need advice, Like I'm not just letting you know. 267 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,080 I'm still introvert though I like being decided by myself. 268 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:21,279 Trust me, we could. I could not talk to you 269 00:12:21,279 --> 00:12:23,000 for ten years and still come look at you and 270 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,639 be like, hey, brother, you good, you look great. I 271 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,320 love you, man, just like I never know now a 272 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,000 day go by. 273 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: Well, I would describe you as an intro extro The 274 00:12:32,799 --> 00:12:36,120 natural tendency is to be introverted, but you can be 275 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,080 the life of the party, which all you know what 276 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,759 I mean, Like, even though you don't like to be 277 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,519 you can be right, Like it's not it's not something 278 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:44,879 you seek, it's not something you. 279 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: Enjoy, right, I love to be a what's it called 280 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:53,960 a chameleon, chamelion, the power invisibility, the power of amnesia, 281 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:57,200 Like though, just put it in your head just to 282 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,279 forget me real quick, that'd be great. 283 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,879 Speaker 2: Well that I was mentioning, like, you know before we 284 00:13:01,919 --> 00:13:04,159 went off on this tangent, like, obviously the career has 285 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,360 been awesome, but the thing that I've loved most watching 286 00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:10,200 you throughout your career is like typically like when you're 287 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,519 engaged with the media or the community, riding your bikes 288 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:17,000 into Lambeau right with the kids, you know, being in 289 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:20,720 a post game or even you know, preseason or kind 290 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:24,240 of a camp conversation and you're going off on. 291 00:13:24,519 --> 00:13:26,919 Speaker 3: Whether it's anime or you know what I mean. 292 00:13:27,399 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: You know, like whatever's on the mind of Jamal in 293 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,159 that moment, going off on it and having fun with 294 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:36,480 it and letting people see who you really are off 295 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,039 the field. That's what I've probably enjoyed the most. And 296 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:39,799 we got to see that. 297 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 4: At b y U two, Right, but not his Outstoll 298 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,559 right into my flow at that time. 299 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: I'm still a little kid. Bro. 300 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,799 Speaker 4: I just seen who put it up, Alani Hellaniu. He 301 00:13:51,919 --> 00:13:54,840 put up a video of me like dancing on on 302 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,720 us and I'm just like, man, I'm like, I'm wearing 303 00:13:57,759 --> 00:14:00,600 a bucket hat. I was like, I used to wear 304 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:04,440 bucket hats everywhere. Pink Bugget had eight thing like. 305 00:14:04,879 --> 00:14:06,639 Speaker 3: That was me. I loved it. Though, I loved it. 306 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,600 I just love seeing myself now and be like, Bro, 307 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,039 I used to. 308 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 4: Wear straight Bugget heads everywhere. The bucket had madiag Bro. 309 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: Bro, I remember when you when you first broke out 310 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,080 onto the scene. 311 00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: I think it was the Georgia Tech in which one Nah, 312 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,320 it wasn't. I say it was the Hawaii. 313 00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: Oh actually, you're right Hawaii, because Michael Lisha got injured 314 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,639 in that game and then you came in. 315 00:14:25,799 --> 00:14:28,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, and we love Michael. 316 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: Shout out to Michael like obviously like it sucked that 317 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,399 he got injured because he was falling that year he 318 00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:35,559 was and but the young buck you know, was waiting 319 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,679 in the wings Jamal Williams, and then you know, you 320 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,759 bawled out there and that was the break. But I 321 00:14:39,759 --> 00:14:42,879 felt like the Breakout. Breakout game was a Georgia for you, 322 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,720 I mean for Georgia Tech. Like it was like, hey, 323 00:14:44,759 --> 00:14:47,080 it was the first start. It was like you got 324 00:14:47,279 --> 00:14:49,639 high volume right, Like it was kind of like that 325 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,559 was your game, bro, where I'm like, dude, this seventeen 326 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:54,960 year old the towel you were like one hundred and 327 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,320 ninety pounds soaking wet. The towel was flowing, you know 328 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,159 what I mean. Like I go back on the watch 329 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,399 that Georgia Tech game. I'm like, Bro, that was That's 330 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:04,440 when we knew like something special was happening. 331 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,799 Speaker 4: I think I think I loved it just so much 332 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,360 for my teammates, especially like Riley and all the just 333 00:15:10,399 --> 00:15:12,879 the older players who've been playing like to embrace me 334 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:16,440 so quickly and like like bring me with them and 335 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,320 not hinder me or trying to stop me from being great. 336 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: Like I appreciate them so much. 337 00:15:21,039 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: Like I'm watching somebody, like I really go back and 338 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 just go on YouTube and just watch our highlights of 339 00:15:27,039 --> 00:15:29,639 each other, just even games. Sometimes it's not even me 340 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,639 in them, it's just I just like watching it just 341 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:34,120 because it's fun to just see my friends and how 342 00:15:34,159 --> 00:15:37,639 much fun he was having on there, I just I 343 00:15:37,639 --> 00:15:40,759 appreciate Riley because Riley was so fun. Bro rileyse it 344 00:15:40,799 --> 00:15:42,360 was a fun quarterback that. 345 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,279 Speaker 3: He gave me, Like. 346 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:49,039 Speaker 4: I don't want to compare him to that, but he 347 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,039 gave me like miracle miracle players you don't know, want 348 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,159 you going to get. I remember being at him versus 349 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,080 Utah State in the stands. 350 00:15:57,679 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: With my mom. Oh lord, being in the stands for 351 00:16:02,799 --> 00:16:03,120 my mom. 352 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: But my mom, she she's a real super fan once 353 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,720 she gets into it, and especially if I'm on the 354 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,679 team or something and I'm not even there yet. We 355 00:16:10,799 --> 00:16:14,879 literally are there for a visit and we literally watching Riley, 356 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,279 you know, bring the comeback for them to get to win. 357 00:16:17,919 --> 00:16:20,320 And my mom literally ended up almost getting in a fight, 358 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,080 getting in a fight at the game with a Utah 359 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:24,720 State fan. 360 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: And it's two thy and eleven. 361 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: I think it was when I was little, Like I 362 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,440 still I'm like, gosh, like my mom literally about to 363 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:33,759 argue right behind the bitch. 364 00:16:33,879 --> 00:16:35,679 Speaker 3: Everybody turning around looking. 365 00:16:35,759 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, dang, I'm about to I'm not even about 366 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,120 to get into school already, because. 367 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 368 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: But you know, from that point on, there and Braceley, 369 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:49,639 they're like, oh yeah, we like what's happening here? But 370 00:16:50,159 --> 00:16:52,200 I just loved very minding of it. Man, being at 371 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,960 b y U was different, a different, different experience for me. 372 00:16:56,159 --> 00:16:58,559 I will say that it's my first time being at 373 00:16:58,559 --> 00:17:00,600 a place. The first thing I thought was there's no 374 00:17:00,679 --> 00:17:02,600 trash on the ground, where's. 375 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: The graffiti at I'm like, why is it? So? 376 00:17:05,559 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 4: It's just it's chill, Like it was my first time 377 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:11,440 seeing chill. This is my first time actually being around 378 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:12,680 a whole bunch of white people too. 379 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: And then it was like, you know, I mean it 380 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:17,440 was it's chill. 381 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,799 Speaker 4: It was much How can I say it was much 382 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,640 uptight when I was going up to be Yu. It's 383 00:17:24,759 --> 00:17:27,759 much chiller than it is. Oh my gosh, it's not 384 00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:33,799 even close. It's not even cluseuse to the same. We 385 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:38,759 we had bishops everywhere. You couldn't go nowhere without somebody thinking. 386 00:17:39,079 --> 00:17:41,720 You think you're gonna get away with something. Bishops, these 387 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:44,640 bishops in the corners, but you don't know what, man, 388 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:52,400 bishops with helmets, songs, some teammates being bishops. It was 389 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,200 a great time, man, I tell you, like it was 390 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,200 a by you gave me into it, the survivor up 391 00:17:58,279 --> 00:18:06,200 down bro, like man learning how to make fire. I 392 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,160 got I found my routine quick. I was like, I'm 393 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,279 about to be in a house. You ain't never gonna 394 00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:15,400 find me. Nobody's gonna hang out with me because but 395 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,799 everybody felt like they were aged, Like mister Smith, I'm 396 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:24,200 a matrix about trying to tell trying to tell big, 397 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,680 big mission. What was everybody doing? It was bad that 398 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:30,559 in the day and I'm making a song. I'm old, 399 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,480 but I'm just saying man for me as a black man, 400 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:36,559 not being LDS. I love being here, but it was 401 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,680 it's different, It's different. 402 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:41,599 Speaker 3: I loved it though it was a great times. Well, 403 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,240 I know it's. 404 00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:44,319 Speaker 2: Transformative, right, but you bring up some really good points 405 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,920 and uh like, I mean I remember, like I like 406 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,920 when you got to be what I started into the 407 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,160 media world and I and I brought up the concept 408 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,160 to people of the double minority and how difficult it 409 00:18:57,319 --> 00:19:01,680 is for non LDS African American man march like assimilate. 410 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: Into our culture. 411 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,079 Speaker 4: And when I say seeing another black person on campus, 412 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,079 I literally it to three. 413 00:19:06,839 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: Miles three miles away. 414 00:19:09,759 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 4: But I made it into a game because I don't 415 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,000 know why, but a lot of when you see another 416 00:19:16,039 --> 00:19:18,039 black person for some reason, they don't want to look 417 00:19:18,079 --> 00:19:20,599 at you and give you the what's up? And I 418 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,000 learnally i'd be like I was waiting on it. I 419 00:19:24,039 --> 00:19:26,400 was like, oh, like I see it, what's up? My brother, 420 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:29,440 and I'll be waiting on it, and they never look 421 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,960 at me like they don't see me. 422 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, come on now, bro, hey, i gotta shed 423 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,519 some light. Ben. I think the reason why it happens 424 00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:37,880 because I know what Jamal is talking about. 425 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: Because you see one, you're like, oh, and they look 426 00:19:40,279 --> 00:19:42,519 you like they think they're the most important person, you know, 427 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:44,599 because they've never seen it. I don't know, I don't 428 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:46,839 know what he's talking about. But for me, for me, 429 00:19:47,319 --> 00:19:49,480 I was just trying to say, hi, that's it. I 430 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:53,680 was trying to say what's up. But they they never 431 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,799 looked bad at me. But you know, I just let 432 00:19:55,839 --> 00:19:58,160 it be. You know, b Y, you was great though. 433 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,400 I let you know. It's the funniest time ever. I 434 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,880 missed class one time because there were deers in front 435 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,839 of the walkway. I didn't miss it. I was late 436 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,799 and I was not messing with them deer. It was 437 00:20:09,839 --> 00:20:12,400 a mama and two of them little things. I already 438 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,200 knew I never seen deers in my life. I never 439 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,279 seen deers so close to me in my life. So 440 00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:20,519 I literally just sat there until they moved, and I 441 00:20:20,599 --> 00:20:23,119 sat there for a good twenty minutes. And then I 442 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:29,720 told my teacher, and I think it was Professor Ogletree too. 443 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:32,440 It was it was, it was, it was Ogle Tree. Yeah, 444 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,559 I think it was o Tree because a little bit 445 00:20:35,599 --> 00:20:38,720 more grace. Probably he had grace. 446 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. I love I love learning about booking woman from him. 447 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:42,880 He cool. 448 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: He's good because he because he let me, He let 449 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,359 me go with my mind on what I think about it. 450 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:50,799 Because booking like the book and Morman class, I will say, 451 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,119 do they still make them take it? 452 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 453 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh so you got to learn the defeats the Lamanites. 454 00:20:57,759 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 4: My favorite thing to do in there was to see 455 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,839 I was. I bet myself in my head, I'm still 456 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,119 I'm in class. I'm trying to learn, but I have 457 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,359 a side quest in my head, and my side quest 458 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:12,920 to see how many people cry today? Because most of 459 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,960 the times I ain't gonna lie to you. I love Jesus, 460 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,920 I love God, I respect all religion. But when I 461 00:21:19,039 --> 00:21:21,720 be in there and I'm I'm listening to people who 462 00:21:21,759 --> 00:21:22,559 are lds. 463 00:21:23,079 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: It just sounded like. 464 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: It was a competition to see who was the most 465 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,079 holy and some holies, that's all. 466 00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: And it is like people were crying over the most 467 00:21:32,039 --> 00:21:33,240 basic little things. 468 00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:38,079 Speaker 4: And I'm just like, okay, I don't think you get 469 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:46,359 extra extra hey for this clood. It was a great time. 470 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,000 I very respectful though I loved I loved every many. 471 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:54,480 I was learning a lot, like very informational. But for me, 472 00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:56,880 I have side I be having side quests in my 473 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,880 head because I just like to I just be paying 474 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,039 attention to everything. 475 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm very sensual, a waste. 476 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:08,759 Speaker 4: Awareness of everything. I'm paying attention. It was a great time, bro, 477 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:11,880 you expect from a seventeen year old in college. Let 478 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,920 you got to be here and I've listened to things 479 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,079 that I had never heard before in my life. 480 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:21,759 Speaker 5: Well, all I say is like, I know, there's a 481 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:27,240 tremendous amount of gratitude on on BYU side that you 482 00:22:27,319 --> 00:22:30,759 were able to experience these things and add value. 483 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: It was these experience, you. 484 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like it's symbiotic too, like and 485 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,240 you mentioned kind of the transformative nature even over that, 486 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,640 like from when you were there right Like, I can't 487 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,079 tell you how many times, I'm like, look like it's 488 00:22:44,079 --> 00:22:46,319 about perspective, right, and you need to have You're only 489 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,440 as good as the anecdotes that you have, right, these 490 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,200 like personal experiences, So your personal experiences built up. 491 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: Prior to YU. 492 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,279 Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh my gosh, like all these 493 00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:57,880 personal experiences and they got long hair everywhere Brady hair. 494 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,279 Speaker 3: How much different it is now? Though, Like, my god, 495 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,920 you could have got pretty crazy with the dreads. You know, 496 00:23:04,319 --> 00:23:06,799 it could have come men style. 497 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,799 Speaker 4: But I remember I started getting I started getting tattoos 498 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:12,079 while I was here at b y U. My favorite 499 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,920 thing ever is when I started getting tattoos. Minute he said, 500 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,440 he said it was like a passive aggressive but he 501 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,640 don't like he's letting me know, but he's not saying nothing. 502 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,079 Speaker 3: He was like, oh noether tattoo. Huh. 503 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, you know, just a little bit 504 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,920 and get that sleepwork. And then after after that one, 505 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,759 I stopped. After a minute, I was like, all right, 506 00:23:35,799 --> 00:23:37,599 I'm gonna take it. Take a little time on the 507 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:41,519 next tattoo because I see he's paying attention my dog. 508 00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: I love it. He's so funny. 509 00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:46,519 Speaker 4: He the only one that got me afraid of perfect 510 00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:49,200 tens He got me so afraid of like every. 511 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 3: Time I walked to a sideline, bring it. 512 00:23:56,599 --> 00:23:58,759 Speaker 2: I feel like he just create like like we didn't 513 00:23:58,759 --> 00:24:00,640 mess it up, you would just make you do it again, 514 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,519 just to do it again. 515 00:24:01,599 --> 00:24:02,319 Speaker 3: It was horrible. 516 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,559 Speaker 4: That was dead that I would say by far, any 517 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,400 training camp I've ever done that was probably men and 518 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,400 all days of the two days those are bad. Those 519 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,160 are some bad days, bro. Running running stairs in Lavelle 520 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,039 Elware Stadium is pretty bad too. 521 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: I remember throwing up on those a lot. That was 522 00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:28,920 fun though. Well, Jamal, you know, love and appreciate you. 523 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: So blessed to have you here. Thanks for coming out 524 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,640 and supporting and hanging out with us. And and hopefully 525 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,079 you got some good Trouble cookies. 526 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: And you know I only give you one of those. Bro. 527 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 4: You gotta watch yourselves. Yeah, I'm just letting you know. 528 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,440 If you eat those every week, you got a problem. 529 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,839 Speaker 3: Bro. Know you better be working out a lot too. 530 00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:51,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, first of all, if you eat more cookies 531 00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:55,200 than days that you work out, you definitely got a problem. 532 00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:58,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's gonna that's gonna be one of your 533 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,960 you know, like coming from la and you know, show 534 00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:02,839 cal area. 535 00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: Like baby, I'm from l A. 536 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,599 Speaker 2: I'm okay, Okay, I there you go, Okay, I apologize 537 00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:08,920 for that. 538 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,519 Speaker 4: Nine is the same way backwards, all right, all right, 539 00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:14,960 go ahead. 540 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: No. 541 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:17,599 Speaker 2: But like the amount of sugar we consume in Utah, 542 00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:18,440 pretty insane. 543 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,559 Speaker 4: Oh, I've been drinking like zero sugar. Things like, you 544 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,039 gotta limit it, the more you limit it. I started 545 00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:26,759 learning more about parasites and all that. 546 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:27,079 Speaker 3: Bro. 547 00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 4: Like, getting older is scaring me because I'm the more 548 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,880 knowledge I get, the more paranoid I'm getting. 549 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 3: So don't I tell no more education, no more, no 550 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:38,960 more learning all these things. 551 00:25:39,319 --> 00:25:41,599 Speaker 4: It's good though, I like learning, just because I have 552 00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:43,480 a daughter now, I try to get her as much 553 00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:47,400 prepared as possible. I'm not a h what's called a 554 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,319 fantasy type of parent that like to keep them in 555 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,839 the bubble with You're a pragmatist, Oh, I'm an anime character. 556 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,079 I get minds ready to go to war at the 557 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,519 age of seven. I love her though. 558 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:01,559 Speaker 3: She's a great princess. Shout out to. 559 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: You your wonderful family, Jamal, many blessings to be upon you. 560 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,079 Speaker 3: And uh well she at the rivalry game, right, Yeah, 561 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,319 I'm going Okay. 562 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 4: Sometimes i'mouna say I'm not going, so nobody think I'm going, 563 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:16,200 but I'm not going, not going, but maybe I'm going. 564 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: We're gonna be yu though. We're gonna win this. We 565 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:21,079 gotta get that. I need it. Boy, I'm about to go, 566 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,640 And no, I'm not gonna mess with him. 567 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,039 Speaker 4: I'll wait till after the game because if they got it, 568 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,119 I ain't gonna mess with them. 569 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:26,759 Speaker 3: They're doing good. 570 00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:30,559 Speaker 4: They had me ah iffy in that Virginia game. They 571 00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:34,599 it was just it was just the option that pissed 572 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,839 me off. That was pitched me off. 573 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 3: But other than that, we're gonna be all right. 574 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 4: We're gonna say, calm, cool, collected, we're gonna get this win, 575 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,480 and we're gonna keep it pushing like they it's only 576 00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:47,960 big because it's rifle over. But for us, if you 577 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,640 just keep it normal, keep it calm, we're gonna. 578 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,039 Speaker 3: Be all right. For us. We didn't get it when 579 00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:56,279 I was playing. Oh my gosh, I'm so pissed. Bro. 580 00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:59,240 I never beat Utah, But for me, it was like 581 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:01,400 guys had another sixteen. 582 00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 4: Man, I'm laughing at them for me, because it's just 583 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:08,599 so much pressure we put on ourselves for what this 584 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,440 is is just a normal game that you. 585 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,599 Speaker 3: Can literally go out and win. 586 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,039 Speaker 4: That if we don't even think about it like that, 587 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,960 we just and we go out like a regular game, 588 00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:19,079 we would be good. So but I don't think they 589 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,599 have the same problems as we had, you know, so 590 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,400 they'll be all right. They cool, Kyle collected, they got swagged. 591 00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,440 They're they're young ones. Now, this is a different era. 592 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,839 They out here to celebrate. Come on, bro, they get 593 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,200 to celebrate and I can't. I don't even do much. 594 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,799 Speaker 3: You only got one of your. 595 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 4: I'm greatful for him though. That was a great year too. 596 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:40,440 I really wish I did have him from all four. 597 00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,440 So these players are are blessed to have him for 598 00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:46,359 who he is as a person personality, the way he 599 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,880 coaches is the way how he leads, he shows. 600 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 3: He is a true leader. So I follow Colooney through the. 601 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 4: Wall, follow him through a minefield. 602 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,039 Speaker 3: Right, He's the best man, Jamal. 603 00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: We appreciate you and enjoy the rest of your day 604 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,240 to hang out with us. I know there's fans that 605 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:06,079 want to interact with you. Much love to you and 606 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,519 your family. 607 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 3: Bro. 608 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,839 Speaker 4: I got somebody try to take a picture with me 609 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,400 and didn't know who I was. So if you come 610 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,160 up to me and you and you see other people 611 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,119 just taking pictures with me and you just want a picture, 612 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,759 I'm going to question you and I'm going to say, 613 00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:19,359 do you know who I am? If you don't know 614 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,559 who I am, I'm just gonna make it weird for 615 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:23,880 you that you're trying to take a picture with somebody 616 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,720 you don't know. That's all I'm saying. Don't don't be 617 00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:29,039 out here taking pictures with people you don't know people. 618 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,359 That's very weird. I'm just saying. Then, another thing, if 619 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,279 you see me around Utah, please don't go up and 620 00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:38,000 walk up on me, walk up on a black man 621 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,839 in Utah and say what are you doing here? 622 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,759 Speaker 3: That's the last thing you can say. 623 00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:44,799 Speaker 4: You're not supposed to say it, Like, I know what 624 00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:48,000 you're trying to say, but that's not the first thing 625 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,440 you you should lead with. You should introduce yourself first. 626 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,400 You know, it's a little weird. It gives me get 627 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,640 out vibes, you know, but I know it's coming from 628 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:57,400 a great place. 629 00:28:58,079 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: You just don't know, but I appreciate it. 630 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: I always say it's due more so to ignorance than 631 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,119 it is anything wrong. 632 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: So you listen to me, Yeah, all right, all right, Mike, 633 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,359 what are you doing here? What? Alright? What you mean 634 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,480 when I'm all right? All right, Joel, we gotta go 635 00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:15,920 to break love. You appreciate you. 636 00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: We're right crumbling, pleasant girls stop by, hang out with Jamal. 637 00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: And some of these other Cougars. 638 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,759 Speaker 2: This is Cougar Sports, one of three, nine ninet eight 639 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:23,480 point three