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Welcome in jaj Ruve the desert Red News.

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Speaker 4: Jay, how you living doing fantastic? Thanks for having me

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, always a blessing. Talking ball with you here, Jay,

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Let's talk basketball to start us off. I always say

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this like whenever there's a problem right with a team,

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I say, I revert back to my movie by my

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movie Favorites, and I asked the question, what is it

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that the people have sent the folk go really does well?

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What is it that this BYU basketball team really does well?

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And what do they need to do better in the

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first half?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what do they do well in the first taf

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or what do they do well overall?

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Speaker 2: What do they do well overall, right, which is all

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second half, and then what is it that they need

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to do in the second, in the in the in

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the first half to change their ways?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think what they do overall for

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the most part, they're unselfish. And we can get to

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that in a minute about maybe AJ needs to be

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more selfish, but they're they're really unselfish. They've the big

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three have really melded well together, a lot better than

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I think people thought. I think they rebound fairly well.

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That's been a consistent throughout the year. I think they

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have some really good rim protectors. Uh, their perimeter defense

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isn't great, but we're talking positives right now, so I

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would say they're rim protectors with with Kiavaketa and then

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obviously when when Beatle comes in, they don't lose much

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in that regard a little bit but not much. So

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I would say those are the the strong point. I

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think their shot selection for the most part is pretty good.

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So to stay kind of on that positive note that

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those are the things that have got them, you know,

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seventeen wins and the top whatever they are now sixteen

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national ranking, they were not nine. I think that was

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the best they got. So, yeah, there are plenty of

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positive They do a lot of things well, but those

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are some of the month that come to mind.

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Speaker 2: Are you optimistic that? Look, let me take a step back.

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Last year around this time, we were concerned. We were

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concerned about yegor, we were concerned about bench scoring, We

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were concerned about three point shooting. They found it, they

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found a way. Their defense was a bit poorous at times.

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Are we going to see something similar to that in

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the lead up to March Madness like we did last year?

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Speaker 3: Or is this team.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit short due to injuries, due to

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like specialties, We don't really have anyone coming off the

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bench that can be a three in the guy like, well,

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what mag You don't have a Dawson Baker, You don't

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have a Trevin nell There maybe some missing pieces here.

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Speaker 3: Where do you stand?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: You don't have a Trey uh Tray Stewart, Yeah.

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Nellen walking through that door as a shooter. Yeah. I

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team can get better. That hasn't hit its ceiling yet,

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They just haven't shown that ability to beat those guys

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off the bench that the by you really relied on

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last year. They missed Dallan Hall too, they missed boost

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that they don't really have a great low post scorer

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that can kind of change things up. Keba Cada is

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a phenomenal defensive player, you just lack some offensive skills

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that you maybe need out of your big guy, and

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of that as well. So I wish I could be

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optimistic and say, yeah, I think there's hope right around

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the corner, But man, I just don't see it right now.

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I just don't see that any of these bench guys can.

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do a lot. And then obviously, as you mentioned, they

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missed Dawson Baker a lot. I don't when Dawson went down,

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need him moving forward. So as of right now, I

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can't really say this team is better than last year's team,

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even with AJ and Rob Wright, who are two phenomenal players.

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think last year's team had more elements for success than

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this year's team has at the current time.

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Speaker 3: Are there any G League players available that can hit

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Speaker 4: I don't know that. I just saw where somebody signed

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a football player. Now now it's reaching into football with

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these signing guys that are played professionally, so it's it's crazy,

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it's but I don't know. At this point of the season,

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm BYU and I want to win,

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if I want to get to a final four, I'm

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going out to see what's available in the G League.

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That is, somebody that can hit a three point shot.

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Just stand there, you know, just stand there and hit.

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That's all we need.

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Speaker 4: Somebody, please, well, you know, I think I think if

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they can get Canard Davis and I don't know what

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the deal is. He was he looked so good and

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get the second half against Arizona and then he just

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comes out and just doesn't have it against Kansas. I

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think he's the key. That's as I analyze this whole thing,

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and then by you're going to repeat what they did

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last year or maybe even get better. I just think

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they need whatever can Davis had a Southern Illinois learned

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he averaged eighteen points a game and was what was

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the forty something percent three point shooter? Whatever that was.

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don't know if they need to hypnotize him and go

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that route. And but he's clearly he's got it in him.

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I think he's got it in him. I just think

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he's got to be more consistent and they got to

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bring that out somehow.

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Speaker 2: I was talking Tobu Buddy Keith and weird debate to

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kind of go back and forth a little bit, and

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one of the things he just he texted me said,

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they don't have as good of a quotation of our

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team this year. Better players for four spots, but five

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through eight not as good.

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Speaker 3: I agree or disagree with my guy Keith.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree, and you know I will say

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they've played fairly well as a team. They're not They're

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just not They're clearly not as deep. They're just clearly

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not as deep. They're better at the top obviously with

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Aj and Rob Wright, two great players, and Richie's gotten

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even better if that were possible. That guy's amazing. But

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they just don't, like you said, have that I was

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I mentioned before this kind of I wrote this big

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story about how unselfish they were and how how we're

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really doing well in that regard, and these three guys

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were meshing. But I think the other night, I think

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AJ needed to get a little more selfish. He just

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was not aggressive at the beginning. I don't It was

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almost as if everybody was there to see him and

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Darren Peterson square off, and it was almost like he

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he was like, let the game come to me sort

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of attitude. But I just think you need to set

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AJ down and tell him, man, we're we're counting on you.

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This is you know, this is the year. We got

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one year with you. We need everything you've got. Uh

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this year and uh, And that was that was lacking

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against Kansas For whatever reason.

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talking to b y U Basketball. Look, I feel like

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were you at the game. Did you do the interview

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post game?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I was there. I was the one that asked Kevin

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about the second half where he said he was going

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to throw off if anybody brought up again. So Kevin

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is the great guy, but man, after they lose, he's uh,

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he's he doesn't want to he doesn't want a little bit.

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I mean, there have been worse. I mean, Mark Pope

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wasn't mister congenialogy after they lost either. So I'm not

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I'm not saying Kevin's alone in that. Every coach is

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I I've rarely met a coach who could smile after

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. Where does b YU go

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Speaker 2: It's I was chatting with Brett and Ronald about the

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uh they kind of they were kind of alluding to, Hey,

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these were the marquee matchups, these were the big games,

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and by you fell short in these marquee uh, you know,

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to your resume if you will, are there still opportunities

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to make a uh to get the best seating available

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in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's plenty. There's a I would call it

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signature wins or quad one A wins. But obviously they

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got to play Texas Tech again, they got to play

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Houston on Saturday, they got to play they play at Arizona.

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I mean right, there's three, three huge ones. They got

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Iowa State coming in. That's another one. They're at their top.

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to it. So yeah, that's the thing about the Big twelve,

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like Kevin mentioned after the game, is the blessing and

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a curse you got, you know, having said that, they

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cannot afford to look past any of these other team

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means Oklahoma State's pretty good. They got to play them

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in steel Water. It's a team that went I think

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twelve and one in the non conference, didn't play a

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real difficult non conference schedule. But obviously they went up

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and beat beat Utah worse than BYU beat Utah at Utah.

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This is past weekend, So yeah, there are plenty of opportunities,

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But there are plenty of land mines. There's plenty of

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ways to if they if they don't take care of business,

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they look past somebody, or they just don't bring it

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on a certain night, they could lose a game they

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shouldn't lose, and that's going to hurt them as well.

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Speaker 3: Let's stock some football, shall we jay this? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Well, hard on one last thing here, seating wise, where

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do you predict this team will be as far as

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seating is concerning the NCAA And we got it, we

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got them on, we got time, we can win games,

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et cetera. But right now, what does it seem like?

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What's the what's the trend? What's the trajectory.

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Speaker 4: Looks like there right now? Right around a four seed?

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five or six seed, I think that's a got to

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be called a disappointing season, or at least, you know,

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before the tournament starts and all that happens. But that's

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got to be as that's going to be a disappointment

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if they don't get a four or better. Just because

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of all the hype and you know, they hey, this

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who knows what's going to be happened next year. They're

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not obviously not going to have a j next year.

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have Kakata. Who knows what Rob Wright's going to do,

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who knows what Cannar Davis is going to do. But

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this is their year. This it's got to happen this

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year for b y U and you know, this whole

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saying if they're they're not better than a four a

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four seat or better. It's it's just been a disappoint

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up to that point.

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Speaker 3: Jay Talking Football.

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Speaker 2: B YU has made their hires official BYU Football, replacing

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Jenne with Guildford and Jay Hill and acquiring a couple

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of new coaches elevating others. Give me a reaction to

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the news show coach Chad Kay taking outside edge and

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outside linebackers, Justin Enna is going to be solely focused

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on special teams. It sounds like Kelly Peping is going

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to be the decordinator and take inside linebackers, and then

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you got Lewis Clark at cornerbacks coach, and then Damario

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a solid staff. I think it's

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interesting that they put Justin Anna over on special teams.

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good in that role and can maybe help him out

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there a little bit while he's still doing the decordinator.

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last name, that Lewis. He came from Monmouth. But I

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actually covered him in high school when he played at

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Judge Memorial of all places, and then went on to

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play at Hawaii and then at University of Utah. So

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that's how long I've been around, is uh. I remember

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that guy from way back when he played high school football.

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they're ready to pick up, you know, to not skip

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a beat losing Jay Hill to Michigan. I think they'll

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be fine there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, you wonder, right, like there's a lot

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of fear when Jay Hill and Junaro left. What were

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the repercussions, like, what was lost?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: What type of impact did that move of Kylewindeham to

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Michigan have on b YU football?

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Speaker 3: Would you say?

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Speaker 4: I think I think they were able to mitigate the damages.

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If a couple of players have gone with with Jay

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to Michigan, I think I think a lot of YU

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fans would have been pretty upset and maybe even devastated.

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think I would have heard him if you know, if

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they had lost some of these stars like Platow and

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Isaiah Glasker and you know, maybe Evan Johnson, I don't

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I don't know who else might have even considered it.

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But yeah, the fact that they really lost one guy,

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and that was a backup linebacker.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Was was you know? It could have been much worse,

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I guess, is what I'm trying to say. So yeah,

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just mentioned, Hill and Gopher are going to be missed.

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I mean, both of them are really gonna be hard

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to replace, but but I think they're I think they're

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going to be fine.

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Speaker 2: Bottom line, What what's your way too early feeling about

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this BUA football team in twenty twenty six, the preseason

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ranked top twenty five. What type of way too early,

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like win loss field do you get right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, so much can

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happen even when you have the same personnel almost I

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think they've done pretty well in the transfer portal of

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addressing some needs. I still think they need a big

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time receiver, but but those, you know, don't grow on trees,

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so I think I think they're poised in prying to

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repeat what they've done in the past two years. There's

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some really really tough games. Obviously they don't have to

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play texts tech, which is you know, going to be

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a relief for a lot of people. That game at

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Utah is going to be really hard, obviously playing there

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in early November. But I think that a lot of

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winnable games, though I expect them to be five and

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oh when they played Notre Dame, I think they I

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think that's a reasonable outlook. And then you know, if

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Notre Dame's also undefeated, that that's going to be the

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game of the week and maybe even of the season

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for college football, and it's going to happen in Provo, Utah.

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So I think there's a lot to look forward to,

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and I think he's got it going. And yeah, I'm

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I'm not the usual e or you guys like to

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tease me about. I I'm just pretty bullish on this,

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on this team, I you know, I'm I think they

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can keep it going. I don't see any reason why

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they couldn't.

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Speaker 2: It's uh, yeah, yeah, I poke at you every one.

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I don't call you e or though I call Brandon

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grinny Eu. Yeah, you know, i'd call you maybe more

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of like you know, I mean, you're you're a realist,

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pragmatist with a slight hint of negativism. Sure, sure, there's

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probably some negativism every once in a while.

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Speaker 4: I've been in that business thirty five years. So I

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got a healthy dose of skepticism with everything I see

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read and uh, I don't even believe my own eyes sometimes.

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Speaker 3: So a healthy dose of skepticism. I love it, man.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Jay, what have you been working on over the

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desrat News? What can you tease us with? What are

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you gonna be writing about here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just writing a little signing day preview for

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you know, signing day Wednesday, although it doesn't look like

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by he's going to sign anybody new football wise, but

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just kind of a recap of where they are on

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the national team rankings and how this is one of

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the best classes, if not the best class and recruiting

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classes in BYU history. So I got that coming out tomorrow,

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and then obviously Wednesday, I'll have another signing day story.

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And then Jackson Payne, my colleague, is heading out to

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steel Water. He's going to give me a little break

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from traveling with BYU, so he's going to do that game.

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But then I'll be back at it with Houston coming

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to town on Saturday. So that's kind of what my

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week will look like.

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Speaker 3: Love it man, Well appreciate you hopping on.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned best recruiting class, maybe the best recruiting class

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in BYU football history. It seems like BYU football one

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of the reasons why you're really you're really bullish on

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these team is because they're trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: I was looking at eras you know.

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Speaker 2: The best airon BUA football history was seventy nine to

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nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 3: Second best era.

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Speaker 2: Was like six to twenty and eleven or even five

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to twenty eleven. You won a lot of games, top

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twenty five finishes, double digit win seasons.

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Speaker 3: It seemed like every single year.

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Speaker 2: The third best era, okay, is the era we're living

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in right now, twenty twenty to twenty twenty five, with

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an argument to be made right that that this is

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the second best era in BYU football has history. Do

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you agree with that assessment or is there another era

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that I'm missing?

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Speaker 4: No, I think that's I think he nailed that. I

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think that two thousand and six to twenty eleven, you know,

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the Max Hall, Dennispit, Austin Coley, Harvey Unga. That was

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when I kind of first got on the beat two

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thousand and eight, and I would say that given the

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degree of difficulty and the schedule with being in the

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Big twelve, that I would probably make a case that

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the era they're in right now might be able to

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edge that one out. I'd have to kind of go

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back and dissect it a little bit more, but just

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I just don't think you can discount the BYU in

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the last three years has played three of the most

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difficult schedules in school history because of Power Forward memberships,

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So that that would be the only thing that would

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bring this group to number two over that that group

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from Maxall's era.

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Speaker 2: J Drew follow him on x and read all of

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his content at the des Rednews des Rednews dot com.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Jay, appreciate your brother.

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Speaker 4: All right, thanks for having me on there.

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Speaker 5: Go.

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Speaker 3: He just he was he was balling. He was balling.

474
00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:03,519
What is it that.

475
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 2: Bear is looking to improve upon heading into year two? Also,

476
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,880
I've had this debate with people. You know, Bear Bachmeier

477
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,839
is a big body. Would we can all agree that

478
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,920
he is, uh, he's a large shuman, not like necessarily tall.

479
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,279
Speaker 3: I mean he's tall enough, but he's just he's just thick.

480
00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 2: He's dense, two hundred, you know, two hundred and thirty,

481
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,160
two hundred and forty pounds.

482
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: He's he's a big dude.

483
00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: You know, the what's the idealistic weight for like for

484
00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:36,200
a quarterback like like Bear.

485
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,519
Speaker 3: You know, some people are like, he's got to lose weight.

486
00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:40,079
I'm like, I don't know if that's case. I kind

487
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,440
of want to keep him at his weight right now

488
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,200
because he's so durable and he runs the ball. Uh

489
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,480
do you do you try to.

490
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,759
Speaker 2: Lose that gain muscle, you know while while you know,

491
00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:52,279
lowering your your body fat percentage. And then how do

492
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,519
you create if your bear, how do you create more

493
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,720
more arm strength, more velocity on his football?

494
00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:01,599
Speaker 3: Improve that realm of his game.

495
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: Let's talk some ball with the one the only quarterback

496
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,759
Sciences representing trained three DQB, trained three DQB dot com,

497
00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:14,039
former BYU great and now the father of a proud

498
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,720
recruit of Brigham Young University. His son got an offer

499
00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:21,559
to by you. Congratulations, John Beck, Hey.

500
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,039
Speaker 5: What's going on guys? Thanks? Man? I appreciate that. I

501
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,960
kind of wondered. I'm like, I'm guessing something's gonna pop

502
00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:31,400
up about Preston on this one. So yeah, pretty cool

503
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,160
for him, that's for sure. He's really excited.

504
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I man, it's awesome, right, I mean, you remember

505
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,119
your recruiting story and yours was unique to you, and

506
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,279
you were kind of an underrated, underappreciated high level talent

507
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:47,440
in my opinion, a guy that you know was in

508
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,960
an offense that maybe didn't feature your arm strength, etc.

509
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:52,920
But you know, it's really cool to see your son.

510
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:56,559
I mean he's picked up I want to say. I

511
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:58,079
mean it seemed like he picked up like four or

512
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,000
five offers in the span of a few days.

513
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, the recruiting landscape is very different from when I

514
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,000
was in high school. Just how early that schools will

515
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:13,160
talk to kids you know you want to get on

516
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,440
I mean really quarterbacks especially. It's just schools want to

517
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,599
be communicating with guys that essentially kind of pop on

518
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,759
the map. Like, the difficult part about it is is

519
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:27,119
if you are a guy that isn't getting an opportunity

520
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,599
early or you're a late developer, there is kind of

521
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,640
these recruiting cycles that right now, most of the teams

522
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,599
that were visiting schools were focused on twenty twenty seven.

523
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,759
But if somebody was a twenty twenty eight that got

524
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:42,559
to play a lot, had a lot of success or

525
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,880
popped or has shown up at some of these things

526
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,319
that land you on some of these recruiting lists. Those

527
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,160
schools are going to make sure that when they stop

528
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,680
by the school that they're they're paying attention to those

529
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,920
twenty twenty days. And there's a lot of rules of

530
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,000
how much they can communicate and when they can and

531
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,440
when they can't. But you know, a lot of it

532
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,440
is largely due to, uh, you know, the opportunity that

533
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,759
my son had with our team this last year and

534
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,920
how well our team did and going all the way

535
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,519
to CIS Finals. It also helps to have somebody like

536
00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:15,920
Jackson Rex at our school. Jackson has been working his

537
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,119
butt off and has been a great player for us

538
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,720
for a number of years and he is garnering a

539
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:22,920
ton of attention right now from a lot of schools

540
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,680
and he was able to pick up a bou offer

541
00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:26,920
as well. And it helps when you're playing at a

542
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,200
place also like San Clementy where there's a lot of tradition,

543
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,960
there's a lot of really good players that have come

544
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,640
out of there, and it's one of those schools that

545
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,359
as recruiters make their way down through South Orange County,

546
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,799
they always stop in and see who is that San

547
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,200
Clementy and it you know, and it's really worked out

548
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,160
and my son had an opportunity to throw for a

549
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,759
bunch of schools, and there's been a lot of good

550
00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:47,640
things because of it.

551
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,559
Speaker 2: I'm a valuating Preston's film and I've watched them before,

552
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:57,079
you know, I'm watching them and uh, you know.

553
00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 5: How how you go? The Pop Warner film that I've

554
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,400
sent you over all the.

555
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: Years, Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at was impressive.

556
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: The high school film is even better.

557
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a it was a fun season, I

558
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,079
you know, and jokingly, I know that you know, maybe

559
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,960
some fans know that we've joked around about my kids' sports,

560
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:21,839
and you always do a really good job as a

561
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,000
friend of asking how my kids' sports are going, and hey,

562
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:26,759
send me some clips of your boys would be cool

563
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,240
to see him. And so you've probably seen a lot

564
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:32,200
of clips of Presson over the years, from eight eight

565
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:34,200
all the way up in all of his years of football.

566
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,559
And it is fun now that you know he's at

567
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:39,799
that high school level. He's getting an opportunity to be

568
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,680
the guy at a great school with a lot of

569
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,480
great kids on our team, and it's a lot of fun.

570
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,039
Speaker 4: What's happening.

571
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's always interesting, you know, because I mean,

572
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:50,480
I know your mechanics very well, having seen you thrown

573
00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:53,599
the ball a ton over the years, and you know,

574
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,559
so I'm like looking at mechanics, I'm looking at height,

575
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:57,599
I'm looking at how he throws the ball. I'm like,

576
00:28:57,839 --> 00:29:00,359
you know, six two point eighty. You know, he's he's

577
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,839
a lean one eighty right now, developing. He's got a

578
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:06,559
little bit more elasticity, you know what I mean. His

579
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:09,319
release is not as quick as John Becks. I don't

580
00:29:09,319 --> 00:29:12,079
know if he's got the cannon, but but I mean

581
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:15,440
he does have a good arm, man, and it's he's

582
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,480
got a good release, quick release. It's not as quick

583
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:19,720
as yours, though, John, I know you're probably gonna work

584
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,279
with him on that.

585
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's something that quite honestly, with continuous

586
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:28,880
training and age, right, I'm sure that you know, most

587
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,279
everybody's remembering what my arm was in college of the NFL, right,

588
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:35,720
and that like in those cases, I'm twenty two to

589
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:37,920
thirty three year old man.

590
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,119
Speaker 3: You know.

591
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,279
Speaker 5: For Presty, he's just he sprouted up a lot over

592
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:45,400
the last year, Like his growth spurt really took off,

593
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,519
kind of like coming out of his freshman year, I

594
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:50,240
guess you could say, kind of heading into it. So

595
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,240
a lot of it is just going to come down

596
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:54,519
to now all of the reps that he puts in

597
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:59,079
over these next few years, and you know, baseball was

598
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:00,880
a big part of my my ability to do that,

599
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:04,039
and continuing to train with all the baseball stuff and

600
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:07,200
then just the more scenarios that you're in and quite honestly,

601
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,759
you learn as you go. You recognize this is what

602
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,079
I need to succeed, and as you go up in

603
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,240
levels or as you you know, fail on certain throws,

604
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:19,000
that just clues you into more of what you need

605
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:22,160
and what you train to be able to succeed. And

606
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,480
as his body thickens out and as he you know,

607
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:28,039
tightens up his stroke and gets a stronger base, a

608
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:29,880
lot of it comes down to also the base that

609
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,559
you're working with. Most most kids, most you know, growing teenagers,

610
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:40,799
they just don't have that man lower one move a

611
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:44,119
little bit differently. You're gonna have to recruit strength and

612
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,000
you're gonna have to recruit energy a little bit differently,

613
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:50,519
and you can't just sometimes rely on like that, that

614
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:53,079
that quick rotary force that you get from torque and

615
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:57,039
then that very snappy, fast arm action that's not going

616
00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:58,799
to be enough on some throws, and so you have

617
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,079
to recruit different ways and as he continues to grow

618
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:03,839
through that, we'll just try to continue to build as

619
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,400
best we can.

620
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,119
Speaker 3: Well, and I probably should have qualified it.

621
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: You see twitch, You see a last like, I think

622
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,240
he's got great range of motion, elasticity.

623
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,359
Speaker 3: And twitch to him though, you know what I mean?

624
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,079
Speaker 2: Yours was a really tight compact release, right, Everyone has

625
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:20,519
their unique mechanics.

626
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:22,599
Speaker 3: I see like like this.

627
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: Long rangey, pliable kid impressed and I was really impressed.

628
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 5: By Well, the secret is going to be, now what

629
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,759
do you do and how do you keep that pliability

630
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:38,200
and elasticity as they have to build muscle and actually

631
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,680
have a body that can play the game. Right. Getting

632
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:43,599
hit in high school is way different than getting hit

633
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:46,000
in college, and as you move up to that level,

634
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:47,680
you have to have a body, not because it has

635
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,079
to look a certain way, but it has to be

636
00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:51,559
able to take the beating. Yeah, you know you want

637
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:53,680
to be able to how can I maintain all of

638
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,160
these things like a baseball player, right, Like you know

639
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:00,000
those that ability to kind of be in a funny

640
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,079
body position and to be able to be pliable and

641
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:06,160
twitchy enough. But at what expense, Right, you got to

642
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,559
go in the weight room and you've got to build

643
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,720
that body up to take the beating of two hundred

644
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:13,880
and sixty five pounds defensive ends, you know, nailing it

645
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:16,559
linebackers and the d lineman like you got to play

646
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:17,640
a very physical game.

647
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: John Beck here on ESPN the Fan, congrats to Presston,

648
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:26,799
his boy tenth grader just got I think I looked

649
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:29,200
up three or four offers at BYU was one of

650
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,240
the congratulations.

651
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: Let's talk Bear Bachmeyer.

652
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: How would you evaluate Bear Blachmeyer's true freshman season at BYU.

653
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's such a great starting point.

654
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:42,519
I really think that BYU did a fantastic job of

655
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,480
bringing Bear along. You know, you go and you have

656
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:49,279
a kid join the program basically in the summer. You

657
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:51,640
allow him to compete because of the talent you believe

658
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,039
that he has. You put him in a position as

659
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:56,359
a day one starter, which has never been done, and

660
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,799
you do it in a way where you bring him along.

661
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,920
Quite honestly, like the approach of systematically bringing Bear along.

662
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:08,240
As the schedule difficulty increased week to week, you look

663
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,599
at it, you couldn't have drawn up a better start

664
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,839
to the season in terms of if you're going to

665
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,079
bring a freshman quarterback along, let's bring him along as

666
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:20,200
the opponents also become more difficult as the week's go

667
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:23,279
And so I think it was just a great starting point,

668
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:26,319
a great finishing place. Bear was able to win some

669
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,440
games in a style that he's familiar with. Like I've

670
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,160
said this multiple times on the show, but go back

671
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,480
and go back in his high school watch how many

672
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,960
times he beat teams with his legs latent games, fourth

673
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,480
quarter every year against US at San Clementy, it was

674
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,440
how Bear was able to extend plays and take off

675
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,839
with his legs. And I mean we lost on a

676
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,160
two point conversion where they had Bear keep it and

677
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,079
he just rumbles into the end zone and they win

678
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:53,200
the football game. And you watched him then transition from

679
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,599
that to then being able to go and win football

680
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:59,240
games being asked to do more from a passing standpoint.

681
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,200
I think of like the Iowa State game, what he

682
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,319
was able to do throwing the football. I look late

683
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:06,359
in the season in some of the games like the

684
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,280
Bowl game, and how much was asked of him to

685
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,199
play a different style of football than the way that

686
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,039
they were winning football in the beginning of the season.

687
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,440
So to me, that's why I think such a great

688
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,079
starting point he's played in I believe fourteen games, right,

689
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:23,199
fourteen starts under his belt. Like I know I've said

690
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,199
this before. The next game he plays is going to

691
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,239
be game fifteen. As a starter. For most people, that's

692
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,719
somewhere during their junior year is when they played maybe

693
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,719
they got a little bit of starts their sophomore year,

694
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,000
and we're still talking about really good football players getting

695
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,119
some starts under their belt as a sophomore and then

696
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,599
getting more and hitting those teams in terms of starts

697
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,039
as a junior. Bear is going to be getting fifteen, sixteen,

698
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,519
seventeen all at the start of his sophomore year. That's

699
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:51,400
a remarkable place to be in terms of experience and

700
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,199
how that's going to help catapult him into this upcoming season.

701
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: John Beck here on ESB and the fan great freshman year.

702
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,920
What is he going to focus on do you think

703
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,239
in the off season to get even better than he

704
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:06,800
was this past season?

705
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 5: Well, the number one thing you look at his efficiency, right,

706
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,079
like in what areas can I be more efficient? Like

707
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:17,360
what throws do I have the capability to make that

708
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,000
I didn't, or I can improve on something to be

709
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:23,679
able to now gain that capability, just sharpen that skill,

710
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,400
just the littless bit. I was so impressed with how

711
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,039
he handled situations. I was so impressed with his demeanor.

712
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,519
You know, he did a great job of protecting the football,

713
00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:35,320
not turning it over. You know, now, how do you

714
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,360
find open guys? How do you determine Like I can

715
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,920
make that throw now and it might look a little

716
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,199
bit tighter. It might be something that maybe you turned

717
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,719
down as a freshman, but now you're letting it rip. Also,

718
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,840
I know it's been talked about some of the downfield

719
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,840
pros right like at times a little bit the ball

720
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,400
would hang a little bit and they were just a

721
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,320
little off. Like, okay, now going back, what are the

722
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,840
things that we work on so that now from a

723
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,119
capability standpoint, from this space in the pocket, I feel

724
00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:06,119
more confident being Jedi accurate ad those downfield throws. Not

725
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,880
just kind of going to my deep ball throw, but

726
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:11,159
how can I really have that range to have that

727
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,280
finesse forty seven to fifty seven yards down the field

728
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,679
where I'm just going to use the most recent guy

729
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:21,280
that I had that I felt seen in recent years.

730
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,440
Mike Pennix like, just uncanny accuracy downfield. It first has

731
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,440
to start with the ability to make those throws, and

732
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,840
then you sharpen it too. Like when I mean make

733
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,360
the throws, I mean just strength down the field from

734
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:43,920
this space, and I can work on the efficiency of

735
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:45,760
being really accurate in that space.

736
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: John, I've had debates with people that come to me

737
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,320
with fans and they're like, you know, you know bears

738
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,559
a big quarterback. I think you should lose some weight,

739
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,880
and I think then he'll be able to throw the

740
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,679
ball even better.

741
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,519
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know if that's the case.

742
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 2: You know, I've always been around pictures, right, like, uh,

743
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,440
in throwers in general, not all the time, right, do

744
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,199
you get like the lean, elastic throwers sometimes, But like

745
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,320
I always felt like, man, you know, you have a

746
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,559
little extra fat, little buoyancy in the joints. You keep

747
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:20,440
that joint nice and tight, and uh, you can throw more.

748
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,880
You can get more, more, more throws in your your arms.

749
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: Maybe not as tired.

750
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,039
Speaker 2: You know, you see the big pictures in the Major

751
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:30,360
League Baseball or a big you know, Ben Roethlisberger, Peyton

752
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,480
Manning was a big, big guy, you know, thick guy.

753
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,880
I always felt like, you know that some of that

754
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,239
baby fat was actually good for you and throwing. But

755
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:42,280
kind of give me your philosophy on like body weights.

756
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:46,119
You know, do you lean out but gain muscle ideally

757
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,199
or do you kind of like having a little bit

758
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,480
of like, you know, a little little bit at a

759
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:53,920
post tissue to help with like impact, right, because he's

760
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,800
a runner and you take I mean he took a

761
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:56,400
lot of shots.

762
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,559
Speaker 3: I mean he was fairly well protected this year, but

763
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:01,159
you get you get hit a lot. There's the durability component.

764
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:04,519
Speaker 2: Your best ability is your availability in college football, in

765
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:06,320
the in the in the National Football League.

766
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,079
Speaker 3: Just give me some of your your philosophies on this.

767
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 5: Well, that's the main thing is durability is the ability

768
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,039
to take the impact and the beating week in and

769
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:18,639
week out. You know, I had some teams that had

770
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:23,119
philosophies on body fat percentage for quarterbacks. They were not

771
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,079
trying to have their quarterbacks be extremely lean, right. They

772
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:30,039
are looking at it as we have a zone of

773
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:34,000
body fat percentage relative to your body composition, the type

774
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:37,840
of you know, muscle mass that you naturally carry, plus

775
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,519
what we believe can help you in taking the beating.

776
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:43,719
We want to stay in that zone. And it's not

777
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,199
to do with throwing. You know, you look at pictures,

778
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:49,719
you know they're trying to do, you know, acceleration for

779
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,199
you know, four time's mass equals acceleration. You get a

780
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:54,840
big picture like C. C. Sabathia coming down the mound.

781
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,960
That's a little bit different than the smaller guys, skinner guys,

782
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,559
and what they now have to generate. Like football players,

783
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:03,400
quarterbacks are not coming off of a mound, you know,

784
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:05,920
And so much of it is is the ability to

785
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,639
layer balls, the ability to touch throw like some of

786
00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:11,320
the most efficient quarterbacks you know, like over the years

787
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,679
have sometimes only had sixty one to sixty three yard arms.

788
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:18,239
They don't have these absolute cannons. Sometimes it's the you know,

789
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,639
I'm gonna use Brock Pretty. I love watching brock Pretty

790
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:23,840
play because of anticipation, because of touch, his ability to

791
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,519
layer throws. Brock Purtty does not have a cannon. And

792
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:29,280
so it's not about building the body to be able

793
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,599
to like endure more throws or to have a stronger arm.

794
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,480
A lot of it is the throwing is one piece.

795
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,199
Then the body to be able to play a season

796
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,360
is another piece. Like one of the concerns when Bryce

797
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,119
Young was coming out of college, a lot of teams

798
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:46,280
has was okay, unbelievable player. I can see all of

799
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,760
these things on tape. Can he be Can he play

800
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,760
twenty plus games for us in a season if we

801
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,119
make a playoff run? Is his body going to be

802
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:56,079
able to do that? We're not talking about ability to

803
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:59,719
play football. We're talking about the ability to keep playing

804
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,760
foot ball games from a durability standpoint. So when I

805
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,599
look at somebody like Bear, like I first think, you

806
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:07,760
have to just look at the body type. In general.

807
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,960
Bear has been built different than his brothers ever since

808
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,199
he was a kid, you know, like in high school.

809
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,599
He's always had that different frame from Hank and from

810
00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:20,880
Tiger and so okay, well within that frame, now you

811
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,880
have to look and say what is best for Bear?

812
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,440
You know, what is the right weight for Bear? And

813
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,119
that's why there is not one prototypical quarterback size. It's

814
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,400
it's what is the right weight that he can carry

815
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,360
well that then also he can take a beating from

816
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,280
because if he's going to continue to play that style

817
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,280
of football where there's built in quarterback draws he's going

818
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,320
to take off and run over a linebacker. Well, you

819
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,960
have to be built a little bit if you're going

820
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:45,840
to be the guy that's going.

821
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,079
Speaker 3: To do that.

822
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: How do you how do you create more velocity on

823
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,920
your football? How do you develop more arm strength as

824
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:57,360
a as a quarterback in the offseason?

825
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:02,039
Speaker 5: Well, in the simplest way, you have to evaluate number one,

826
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,000
how much are you getting out of your lower half

827
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,760
in the connection that it has with the ground. Are

828
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:13,400
you utilizing that connection how you need or are you

829
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:16,039
missing some of it? The next thing is what is

830
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:21,039
the body's ability to create torque, especially in football where

831
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:23,840
the pocket sometimes minimizes the amount of space that you

832
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,000
can utilize as you're trying to use the ground. Now,

833
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:29,599
how much torque can I create? And then on top

834
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:35,440
of that functional strength, do my mechanics limit my ability

835
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,440
to get all of the energy into the football? Or

836
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,920
am I mechanically sound because of my overall functional strength

837
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,239
where I don't have body parts out of sequence. I

838
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,760
don't have a spine angle adjustment or a head slide

839
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,800
or a head tilt or a front arm action that

840
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,400
has has way too much going on and is trying

841
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,679
to find energy by being active id activate that front arm,

842
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:04,480
and so much of that comes down to the body's

843
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:07,599
ability to connect from all four of its points and

844
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:11,000
have that strength that runs throughout. We're not talking about

845
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:13,920
just like the ability to move weight. It's the ability

846
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,159
to be functionally strong in the movements that we're trying

847
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:19,480
to do in the simplest way. When all of that

848
00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:23,159
adds up and we don't minimize it by subtracting from it,

849
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:27,440
that is how we now maximize our arm ability. So

850
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:30,960
like ourm talent, what true arm talent looks like is

851
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,559
all of that being syncd up. So it looks and

852
00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:37,280
it appears like the quarterback is effortlessly throwing the ball

853
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,039
down the field and he has a great arm. You know,

854
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,280
you can find somebody that is just going to muscle

855
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,360
a ball down the field. I think of sometimes when

856
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,800
a defensive lineman, just a big, strong individual can grab

857
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,760
that object which is just an oblong shaped one pound object,

858
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,400
and they just will muscle it down the field and

859
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,920
people go, well, for a defensive lineman, he's got a

860
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,960
really good arm. Quarterbacks can't just muscle throws to places

861
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,920
across the field. There is way too much finesse and

862
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,119
shaping that has to happen, and the ability to locate

863
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:11,280
a football and throw it on time and accurately. So

864
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,760
it's when I can take all of those pieces and

865
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,159
then say, am I getting everything I can out of

866
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:20,199
my body? That's how you can maximize what everybody notices

867
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,400
as arm talent.

868
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: Love that breakdown that only you can give the quarterback scientists,

869
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:31,159
John Beck, If there are listeners out there that have sons,

870
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:34,960
have daughters, want to train with trained three DQB, how

871
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,559
do they do that?

872
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: John? What do you guys focus on? What do you

873
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,639
guys like, say, you know.

874
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,599
Speaker 2: Fifteen year old kid he's getting into his sophomore season

875
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:46,880
really wants to, you know, become a more refined quarterback.

876
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: How can they start training with you guys?

877
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:52,119
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean the best thing is in person, right.

878
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:54,039
I have people sometimes they'll say, hey, is there any

879
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:57,880
way you can do like a video? You know, lesson?

880
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,559
I mean that there are times that I will have

881
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:01,679
people to say, hey, I would love to send you

882
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,679
a video to get some feedback. And I can give

883
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:07,239
some feedback, but there's nothing better than in person because

884
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,119
I can see what their body is doing, and then

885
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:11,679
I can put them in positions with either certain pros,

886
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,400
certain movements where basically it's I will somewhat expose the

887
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,960
things that you need to work on, but that makes

888
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,280
you more aware of who you are. Everything has to

889
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,679
start with awareness. It's like any change that any human

890
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,800
is trying to go through, whether it's something physical, whether

891
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,599
it's something emotional, mentals, you name it, you first have

892
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:32,239
to start with an awareness of where you're currently at.

893
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,960
All right, I can show you and tell you where

894
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,039
you're at and the whys of why you're here. Now,

895
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:39,239
we're going to work on things, and I can send

896
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,880
you home with things that Okay, from now until the

897
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,199
next time I see you, here are the things that

898
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,920
you need to work on, so that when we get

899
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,280
back here in the same space again, we're building off

900
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,880
of that. And so I always tell people find a

901
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,320
way to come down here for a couple of days. Really,

902
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,519
what will you do is you get, you know, a

903
00:44:56,599 --> 00:44:58,880
day one analysis of what's going on. We take a

904
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,719
look at you, and then we start building from there

905
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,199
and we can start to show you here's the direction

906
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,280
that you need to go, here's some tools, and where

907
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,880
we feel like if you implement these these training protocols,

908
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,599
that you start working on these patterns of movement. These

909
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:13,960
will help your overall throwing ability, and now we can

910
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:14,840
really build.

911
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: John Beck trained three d qb uh.

912
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,519
Speaker 2: Also last thing, b A B A you was able

913
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:26,000
to finalize their staff. They got their defensive staff. Uh,

914
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:28,199
they got there. They were able to retain their offensive

915
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:31,239
staff at big time. Kelly Papinga, our teammate, gets to

916
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,360
be the defensive coordinator for b YU. Pretty cool to

917
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:34,840
see all this.

918
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 5: Sorry, somehow I've I think I've lost it.

919
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 3: You got me?

920
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: Now?

921
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Now? Johnny here? Can you got you?

922
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,800
Got me? All right? We may have lost them all right.

923
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: That's our segment, A great segment with John Beck, brought

924
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,960
to you by Odeon Men's Where. Odeon Men's Where, hop

925
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:05,599
on line and look your best for the best and

926
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,639
do your best at odem mens where. If you've been

927
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:09,519
called to serve, thrust in your sickle with your mind

928
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:12,079
and look good while you're doing that.

929
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,199
Speaker 3: Oh, we got him back on, John? Are you back there?

930
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 5: Yeah?

931
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: I can hear you.

932
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 5: Good now you turned into a robot there. I couldn't

933
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,519
hear anything.

934
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Okay, I'm sorry about that.

935
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,639
Speaker 2: Okay, last thing here, Uh, the coaching staff has been

936
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:27,239
solidified there at BYU. Kelly Pepinga, our teammate, is going

937
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,880
to be the defensive coordinator. For those that have not

938
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:34,320
interacted with Kelly Papinga, who is K pop and why

939
00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:35,519
are you excited to.

940
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 3: See what he can do? Is DC?

941
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 5: Yeah? So excited? Right? Like outside of just being a

942
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,679
good friend to Kelly, I mean, I just I love

943
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,880
the guy's intensity. It's focus. I mean, he's actually a

944
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,519
guy that when I go to the bou football games,

945
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:54,079
I love watching his interactions with the linebackers on the sideline. Right,

946
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:58,400
Like anybody that knows the Pinga family knows the focus,

947
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:02,039
the seriousness, right, All of those things are what they're about.

948
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,639
The thing I'm really excited for Kelly, right is all

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of the coaches when they invest time into their craft

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over the years, it's always with the intent to build

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themselves to be a coordinator, right, Like, I mean, look,

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there are some coaches that they're comfortable in their position role, right,

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and that's fine. Everybody has their space where they feel like, hey,

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this is right for me. I think Kelly probably fits

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into that space of the guys where he knows what

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he's been trying to build for himself to become and

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I think it's so cool that he's getting that opportunity

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at VYU. Like my guess is Kelly's capabilities, Kelly's ability

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to teach and instruct and get guys to do that

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would be valued by a lot of places, and he's

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capable of being a coordinator at many colleges. So I'm

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just super happy that it gets to happen there at YU,

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you know, I just I think it's going to be

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so cool to see how that goes. And people also

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need to realize, right, like, there's probably going to be

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a space of time of acclamation, right, acclamation by you know,

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anytime someone's a new coordinator, right, Like, there's just an

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acclamation period. Right. We're not gonna have something where it's

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like you just move from Jay Hill and you go

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to somebody else and there's no learning period. Right. It's

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going to be the players, it's going to be the coaches,

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it's going to be the staff, it's going to be everybody.

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You wish that it all goes smooth and cool and

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great and everything. That's what I hope for everybody, But

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the reality is when new pieces shuffle in and somebody

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takes over right like, they're also going to want to

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do it their way. Gun going to want to have

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their belief systems, their mantras, their style of play, and

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maybe some of it will be exactly like what Jay

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Hill did, and maybe maybe some of it will be

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true to Kelly, And that's what he should do. He

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should be true to himself. He shouldn't try to mimic

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somebody else. Like people respect and players respect when a

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coach is true to who he is. And then that

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the defense, the defensive room, it's gonna resemble his personality

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style on what he's shooting for. And that's why I

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think it's really cool that Kelly is going to get

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this opportunity.

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