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Welcome in jaj Ruve the desert Red News.
Speaker 4: Jay, how you living doing fantastic? Thanks for having me
on today.
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, always a blessing. Talking ball with you here, Jay,
Let's talk basketball to start us off. I always say
this like whenever there's a problem right with a team,
I say, I revert back to my movie by my
movie Favorites, and I asked the question, what is it
that the people have sent the folk go really does well?
What is it that this BYU basketball team really does well?
And what do they need to do better in the
first half?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do they do well in the first taf
or what do they do well overall?
Speaker 2: What do they do well overall, right, which is all
second half, and then what is it that they need
to do in the second, in the in the in
the first half to change their ways?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think what they do overall for
the most part, they're unselfish. And we can get to
that in a minute about maybe AJ needs to be
more selfish, but they're they're really unselfish. They've the big
three have really melded well together, a lot better than
I think people thought. I think they rebound fairly well.
That's been a consistent throughout the year. I think they
have some really good rim protectors. Uh, their perimeter defense
isn't great, but we're talking positives right now, so I
would say they're rim protectors with with Kiavaketa and then
obviously when when Beatle comes in, they don't lose much
in that regard a little bit but not much. So
I would say those are the the strong point. I
think their shot selection for the most part is pretty good.
So to stay kind of on that positive note that
those are the things that have got them, you know,
seventeen wins and the top whatever they are now sixteen
national ranking, they were not nine. I think that was
the best they got. So, yeah, there are plenty of
positive They do a lot of things well, but those
are some of the month that come to mind.
Speaker 2: Are you optimistic that? Look, let me take a step back.
Last year around this time, we were concerned. We were
concerned about yegor, we were concerned about bench scoring, We
were concerned about three point shooting. They found it, they
found a way. Their defense was a bit poorous at times.
Are we going to see something similar to that in
the lead up to March Madness like we did last year?
Speaker 3: Or is this team.
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit short due to injuries, due to
like specialties, We don't really have anyone coming off the
bench that can be a three in the guy like, well,
what mag You don't have a Dawson Baker, You don't
have a Trevin nell There maybe some missing pieces here.
Speaker 3: Where do you stand?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I agree with you.
Speaker 3: You don't have a Trey uh Tray Stewart, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Trey Stewart. Yeah, you don't have him, you know, Trevin
Nellen walking through that door as a shooter. Yeah. I
want to tell people that I think I think this
team can get better. That hasn't hit its ceiling yet,
But I'm just not confident. I just don't see it.
I don't just Mihailo Boskovich and lets say, uh caustic.
They just haven't shown that ability to beat those guys
off the bench that the by you really relied on
last year. They missed Dallan Hall too, they missed boost
that they don't really have a great low post scorer
that can kind of change things up. Keba Cada is
a phenomenal defensive player, you just lack some offensive skills
that you maybe need out of your big guy, and
so far, Abdullah mad Beato has not shown a lot
of that as well. So I wish I could be
optimistic and say, yeah, I think there's hope right around
the corner, But man, I just don't see it right now.
I just don't see that any of these bench guys can.
You know, they've literally forgotten about Tyler Morass, who was
supposed to be a guy that could come in and
do a lot. And then obviously, as you mentioned, they
missed Dawson Baker a lot. I don't when Dawson went down,
I don't think we really realized how much they might
need him moving forward. So as of right now, I
can't really say this team is better than last year's team,
even with AJ and Rob Wright, who are two phenomenal players.
I think if you put him head to head, I
think last year's team had more elements for success than
this year's team has at the current time.
Speaker 3: Are there any G League players available that can hit
a standing.
Speaker 4: I don't know that. I just saw where somebody signed
a football player. Now now it's reaching into football with
these signing guys that are played professionally, so it's it's crazy,
it's but I don't know. At this point of the season,
I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm BYU and I want to win,
if I want to get to a final four, I'm
going out to see what's available in the G League.
That is, somebody that can hit a three point shot.
Just stand there, you know, just stand there and hit.
That's all we need.
Speaker 4: Somebody, please, well, you know, I think I think if
they can get Canard Davis and I don't know what
the deal is. He was he looked so good and
get the second half against Arizona and then he just
comes out and just doesn't have it against Kansas. I
think he's the key. That's as I analyze this whole thing,
and then by you're going to repeat what they did
last year or maybe even get better. I just think
they need whatever can Davis had a Southern Illinois learned
he averaged eighteen points a game and was what was
the forty something percent three point shooter? Whatever that was.
They need that. I just I think that's the answer.
And maybe it's not possible, but that's the guy that
I would really try to depend on to get better.
I don't I don't know if there's a solution. I
don't know if they need to hypnotize him and go
that route. And but he's clearly he's got it in him.
I think he's got it in him. I just think
he's got to be more consistent and they got to
bring that out somehow.
Speaker 2: I was talking Tobu Buddy Keith and weird debate to
kind of go back and forth a little bit, and
one of the things he just he texted me said,
they don't have as good of a quotation of our
team this year. Better players for four spots, but five
through eight not as good.
Speaker 3: I agree or disagree with my guy Keith.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree, and you know I will say
they've played fairly well as a team. They're not They're
just not They're clearly not as deep. They're just clearly
not as deep. They're better at the top obviously with
Aj and Rob Wright, two great players, and Richie's gotten
even better if that were possible. That guy's amazing. But
they just don't, like you said, have that I was
I mentioned before this kind of I wrote this big
story about how unselfish they were and how how we're
really doing well in that regard, and these three guys
were meshing. But I think the other night, I think
AJ needed to get a little more selfish. He just
was not aggressive at the beginning. I don't It was
almost as if everybody was there to see him and
Darren Peterson square off, and it was almost like he
was I don't know if he was waiting or if
he was like, let the game come to me sort
of attitude. But I just think you need to set
AJ down and tell him, man, we're we're counting on you.
This is you know, this is the year. We got
one year with you. We need everything you've got. Uh
this year and uh, And that was that was lacking
against Kansas For whatever reason.
Speaker 2: J Drew des red News here on ESPN the Fan
talking to b y U Basketball. Look, I feel like
were you at the game. Did you do the interview
post game?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was there. I was the one that asked Kevin
about the second half where he said he was going
to throw off if anybody brought up again. So Kevin
is the great guy, but man, after they lose, he's uh,
he's he doesn't want to he doesn't want a little bit.
I mean, there have been worse. I mean, Mark Pope
wasn't mister congenialogy after they lost either. So I'm not
I'm not saying Kevin's alone in that. Every coach is
I I've rarely met a coach who could smile after
a loss.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. Where does b YU go
from here?
Speaker 2: It's I was chatting with Brett and Ronald about the
uh they kind of they were kind of alluding to, Hey,
these were the marquee matchups, these were the big games,
and by you fell short in these marquee uh, you know,
I guess they would be these like uh exclamation points
to your resume if you will, are there still opportunities
to make a uh to get the best seating available
in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's plenty. There's a I would call it
signature wins or quad one A wins. But obviously they
got to play Texas Tech again, they got to play
Houston on Saturday, they got to play they play at Arizona.
I mean right, there's three, three huge ones. They got
Iowa State coming in. That's another one. They're at their top.
I think they're back in the top ten or close
to it. So yeah, that's the thing about the Big twelve,
like Kevin mentioned after the game, is the blessing and
a curse you got, you know, having said that, they
cannot afford to look past any of these other team
means Oklahoma State's pretty good. They got to play them
in steel Water. It's a team that went I think
twelve and one in the non conference, didn't play a
real difficult non conference schedule. But obviously they went up
and beat beat Utah worse than BYU beat Utah at Utah.
This is past weekend, So yeah, there are plenty of opportunities,
But there are plenty of land mines. There's plenty of
ways to if they if they don't take care of business,
they look past somebody, or they just don't bring it
on a certain night, they could lose a game they
shouldn't lose, and that's going to hurt them as well.
Speaker 3: Let's stock some football, shall we jay this? Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, hard on one last thing here, seating wise, where
do you predict this team will be as far as
seating is concerning the NCAA And we got it, we
got them on, we got time, we can win games,
et cetera. But right now, what does it seem like?
What's the what's the trend? What's the trajectory.
Speaker 4: Looks like there right now? Right around a four seed?
I I think, you know, I think there's opportunities to
move up, but I'll also, like I mentioned before, to
move down. But I think they're going to finish at
a four. I think, I think, you know, I think
if they finish worse than a four, like get a
five or six seed, I think that's a got to
be called a disappointing season, or at least, you know,
before the tournament starts and all that happens. But that's
got to be as that's going to be a disappointment
if they don't get a four or better. Just because
of all the hype and you know, they hey, this
is a one time thing this year. They've got you know,
who knows what's going to be happened next year. They're
not obviously not going to have a j next year.
They're not going to have Richie, They're not going to
have Kakata. Who knows what Rob Wright's going to do,
who knows what Cannar Davis is going to do. But
this is their year. This it's got to happen this
year for b y U and you know, this whole
Final four or bust and all that. But so I'm
saying if they're they're not better than a four a
four seat or better. It's it's just been a disappoint
up to that point.
Speaker 3: Jay Talking Football.
Speaker 2: B YU has made their hires official BYU Football, replacing
Jenne with Guildford and Jay Hill and acquiring a couple
of new coaches elevating others. Give me a reaction to
the news show coach Chad Kay taking outside edge and
outside linebackers, Justin Enna is going to be solely focused
on special teams. It sounds like Kelly Peping is going
to be the decordinator and take inside linebackers, and then
you got Lewis Clark at cornerbacks coach, and then Damario
Warren safety's coach and passing game coordinator.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a solid staff. I think it's
interesting that they put Justin Anna over on special teams.
You know, I'm not sure Kelly Peepinga's obviously was really
good in that role and can maybe help him out
there a little bit while he's still doing the decordinator.
But that was a mild surprise to me. But yeah,
I think it's a good the Lewis h what's his
last name, that Lewis. He came from Monmouth. But I
actually covered him in high school when he played at
Judge Memorial of all places, and then went on to
play at Hawaii and then at University of Utah. So
that's how long I've been around, is uh. I remember
that guy from way back when he played high school football.
But I think it's a good staff, and I think
they're ready to pick up, you know, to not skip
a beat losing Jay Hill to Michigan. I think they'll
be fine there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, you wonder, right, like there's a lot
of fear when Jay Hill and Junaro left. What were
the repercussions, like, what was lost?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: What type of impact did that move of Kylewindeham to
Michigan have on b YU football?
Speaker 3: Would you say?
Speaker 4: I think I think they were able to mitigate the damages.
If a couple of players have gone with with Jay
to Michigan, I think I think a lot of YU
fans would have been pretty upset and maybe even devastated.
If maybe that's a bit too too harsh, but I
think I would have heard him if you know, if
they had lost some of these stars like Platow and
Isaiah Glasker and you know, maybe Evan Johnson, I don't
I don't know who else might have even considered it.
But yeah, the fact that they really lost one guy,
and that was a backup linebacker.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: Was was you know? It could have been much worse,
I guess, is what I'm trying to say. So yeah,
I think, you know, obviously those two gentlemen that you
just mentioned, Hill and Gopher are going to be missed.
I mean, both of them are really gonna be hard
to replace, but but I think they're I think they're
going to be fine.
Speaker 2: Bottom line, What what's your way too early feeling about
this BUA football team in twenty twenty six, the preseason
ranked top twenty five. What type of way too early,
like win loss field do you get right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, so much can
happen even when you have the same personnel almost I
think they've done pretty well in the transfer portal of
addressing some needs. I still think they need a big
time receiver, but but those, you know, don't grow on trees,
so I think I think they're poised in prying to
repeat what they've done in the past two years. There's
some really really tough games. Obviously they don't have to
play texts tech, which is you know, going to be
a relief for a lot of people. That game at
Utah is going to be really hard, obviously playing there
in early November. But I think that a lot of
winnable games, though I expect them to be five and
oh when they played Notre Dame, I think they I
think that's a reasonable outlook. And then you know, if
Notre Dame's also undefeated, that that's going to be the
game of the week and maybe even of the season
for college football, and it's going to happen in Provo, Utah.
So I think there's a lot to look forward to,
and I think he's got it going. And yeah, I'm
I'm not the usual e or you guys like to
tease me about. I I'm just pretty bullish on this,
on this team, I you know, I'm I think they
can keep it going. I don't see any reason why
they couldn't.
Speaker 2: It's uh, yeah, yeah, I poke at you every one.
I don't call you e or though I call Brandon
grinny Eu. Yeah, you know, i'd call you maybe more
of like you know, I mean, you're you're a realist,
pragmatist with a slight hint of negativism. Sure, sure, there's
probably some negativism every once in a while.
Speaker 4: I've been in that business thirty five years. So I
got a healthy dose of skepticism with everything I see
read and uh, I don't even believe my own eyes sometimes.
Speaker 3: So a healthy dose of skepticism. I love it, man.
Speaker 2: Uh, Jay, what have you been working on over the
desrat News? What can you tease us with? What are
you gonna be writing about here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just writing a little signing day preview for
you know, signing day Wednesday, although it doesn't look like
by he's going to sign anybody new football wise, but
just kind of a recap of where they are on
the national team rankings and how this is one of
the best classes, if not the best class and recruiting
classes in BYU history. So I got that coming out tomorrow,
and then obviously Wednesday, I'll have another signing day story.
And then Jackson Payne, my colleague, is heading out to
steel Water. He's going to give me a little break
from traveling with BYU, so he's going to do that game.
But then I'll be back at it with Houston coming
to town on Saturday. So that's kind of what my
week will look like.
Speaker 3: Love it man, Well appreciate you hopping on.
Speaker 2: You mentioned best recruiting class, maybe the best recruiting class
in BYU football history. It seems like BYU football one
of the reasons why you're really you're really bullish on
these team is because they're trending in the right direction.
Speaker 3: I was looking at eras you know.
Speaker 2: The best airon BUA football history was seventy nine to
nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 3: Second best era.
Speaker 2: Was like six to twenty and eleven or even five
to twenty eleven. You won a lot of games, top
twenty five finishes, double digit win seasons.
Speaker 3: It seemed like every single year.
Speaker 2: The third best era, okay, is the era we're living
in right now, twenty twenty to twenty twenty five, with
an argument to be made right that that this is
the second best era in BYU football has history. Do
you agree with that assessment or is there another era
that I'm missing?
Speaker 4: No, I think that's I think he nailed that. I
think that two thousand and six to twenty eleven, you know,
the Max Hall, Dennispit, Austin Coley, Harvey Unga. That was
when I kind of first got on the beat two
thousand and eight, and I would say that given the
degree of difficulty and the schedule with being in the
Big twelve, that I would probably make a case that
the era they're in right now might be able to
edge that one out. I'd have to kind of go
back and dissect it a little bit more, but just
I just don't think you can discount the BYU in
the last three years has played three of the most
difficult schedules in school history because of Power Forward memberships,
So that that would be the only thing that would
bring this group to number two over that that group
from Maxall's era.
Speaker 2: J Drew follow him on x and read all of
his content at the des Rednews des Rednews dot com.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Jay, appreciate your brother.
Speaker 4: All right, thanks for having me on there.
Speaker 5: Go.
Speaker 2: That was a cougar beat, A great cougar beat, one
of the best cougar beats, maybe the best cougar beat.
Speaker 3: We've ever had.
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Speaker 3: He just he was he was balling. He was balling.
What is it that.
Speaker 2: Bear is looking to improve upon heading into year two? Also,
I've had this debate with people. You know, Bear Bachmeier
is a big body. Would we can all agree that
he is, uh, he's a large shuman, not like necessarily tall.
Speaker 3: I mean he's tall enough, but he's just he's just thick.
Speaker 2: He's dense, two hundred, you know, two hundred and thirty,
two hundred and forty pounds.
Speaker 3: He's he's a big dude.
Speaker 2: You know, the what's the idealistic weight for like for
a quarterback like like Bear.
Speaker 3: You know, some people are like, he's got to lose weight.
I'm like, I don't know if that's case. I kind
of want to keep him at his weight right now
because he's so durable and he runs the ball. Uh
do you do you try to.
Speaker 2: Lose that gain muscle, you know while while you know,
lowering your your body fat percentage. And then how do
you create if your bear, how do you create more
more arm strength, more velocity on his football?
Speaker 3: Improve that realm of his game.
Speaker 2: Let's talk some ball with the one the only quarterback
Sciences representing trained three DQB, trained three DQB dot com,
former BYU great and now the father of a proud
recruit of Brigham Young University. His son got an offer
to by you. Congratulations, John Beck, Hey.
Speaker 5: What's going on guys? Thanks? Man? I appreciate that. I
kind of wondered. I'm like, I'm guessing something's gonna pop
up about Preston on this one. So yeah, pretty cool
for him, that's for sure. He's really excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I man, it's awesome, right, I mean, you remember
your recruiting story and yours was unique to you, and
you were kind of an underrated, underappreciated high level talent
in my opinion, a guy that you know was in
an offense that maybe didn't feature your arm strength, etc.
But you know, it's really cool to see your son.
I mean he's picked up I want to say. I
mean it seemed like he picked up like four or
five offers in the span of a few days.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the recruiting landscape is very different from when I
was in high school. Just how early that schools will
talk to kids you know you want to get on
I mean really quarterbacks especially. It's just schools want to
be communicating with guys that essentially kind of pop on
the map. Like, the difficult part about it is is
if you are a guy that isn't getting an opportunity
early or you're a late developer, there is kind of
these recruiting cycles that right now, most of the teams
that were visiting schools were focused on twenty twenty seven.
But if somebody was a twenty twenty eight that got
to play a lot, had a lot of success or
popped or has shown up at some of these things
that land you on some of these recruiting lists. Those
schools are going to make sure that when they stop
by the school that they're they're paying attention to those
twenty twenty days. And there's a lot of rules of
how much they can communicate and when they can and
when they can't. But you know, a lot of it
is largely due to, uh, you know, the opportunity that
my son had with our team this last year and
how well our team did and going all the way
to CIS Finals. It also helps to have somebody like
Jackson Rex at our school. Jackson has been working his
butt off and has been a great player for us
for a number of years and he is garnering a
ton of attention right now from a lot of schools
and he was able to pick up a bou offer
as well. And it helps when you're playing at a
place also like San Clementy where there's a lot of tradition,
there's a lot of really good players that have come
out of there, and it's one of those schools that
as recruiters make their way down through South Orange County,
they always stop in and see who is that San
Clementy and it you know, and it's really worked out
and my son had an opportunity to throw for a
bunch of schools, and there's been a lot of good
things because of it.
Speaker 2: I'm a valuating Preston's film and I've watched them before,
you know, I'm watching them and uh, you know.
Speaker 5: How how you go? The Pop Warner film that I've
sent you over all the.
Speaker 2: Years, Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at was impressive.
Speaker 3: The high school film is even better.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a it was a fun season, I
you know, and jokingly, I know that you know, maybe
some fans know that we've joked around about my kids' sports,
and you always do a really good job as a
friend of asking how my kids' sports are going, and hey,
send me some clips of your boys would be cool
to see him. And so you've probably seen a lot
of clips of Presson over the years, from eight eight
all the way up in all of his years of football.
And it is fun now that you know he's at
that high school level. He's getting an opportunity to be
the guy at a great school with a lot of
great kids on our team, and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: What's happening.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's always interesting, you know, because I mean,
I know your mechanics very well, having seen you thrown
the ball a ton over the years, and you know,
so I'm like looking at mechanics, I'm looking at height,
I'm looking at how he throws the ball. I'm like,
you know, six two point eighty. You know, he's he's
a lean one eighty right now, developing. He's got a
little bit more elasticity, you know what I mean. His
release is not as quick as John Becks. I don't
know if he's got the cannon, but but I mean
he does have a good arm, man, and it's he's
got a good release, quick release. It's not as quick
as yours, though, John, I know you're probably gonna work
with him on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's something that quite honestly, with continuous
training and age, right, I'm sure that you know, most
everybody's remembering what my arm was in college of the NFL, right,
and that like in those cases, I'm twenty two to
thirty three year old man.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: For Presty, he's just he sprouted up a lot over
the last year, Like his growth spurt really took off,
kind of like coming out of his freshman year, I
guess you could say, kind of heading into it. So
a lot of it is just going to come down
to now all of the reps that he puts in
over these next few years, and you know, baseball was
a big part of my my ability to do that,
and continuing to train with all the baseball stuff and
then just the more scenarios that you're in and quite honestly,
you learn as you go. You recognize this is what
I need to succeed, and as you go up in
levels or as you you know, fail on certain throws,
that just clues you into more of what you need
and what you train to be able to succeed. And
as his body thickens out and as he you know,
tightens up his stroke and gets a stronger base, a
lot of it comes down to also the base that
you're working with. Most most kids, most you know, growing teenagers,
they just don't have that man lower one move a
little bit differently. You're gonna have to recruit strength and
you're gonna have to recruit energy a little bit differently,
and you can't just sometimes rely on like that, that
that quick rotary force that you get from torque and
then that very snappy, fast arm action that's not going
to be enough on some throws, and so you have
to recruit different ways and as he continues to grow
through that, we'll just try to continue to build as
best we can.
Speaker 3: Well, and I probably should have qualified it.
Speaker 2: You see twitch, You see a last like, I think
he's got great range of motion, elasticity.
Speaker 3: And twitch to him though, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yours was a really tight compact release, right, Everyone has
their unique mechanics.
Speaker 3: I see like like this.
Speaker 2: Long rangey, pliable kid impressed and I was really impressed.
Speaker 5: By Well, the secret is going to be, now what
do you do and how do you keep that pliability
and elasticity as they have to build muscle and actually
have a body that can play the game. Right. Getting
hit in high school is way different than getting hit
in college, and as you move up to that level,
you have to have a body, not because it has
to look a certain way, but it has to be
able to take the beating. Yeah, you know you want
to be able to how can I maintain all of
these things like a baseball player, right, Like you know
those that ability to kind of be in a funny
body position and to be able to be pliable and
twitchy enough. But at what expense, Right, you got to
go in the weight room and you've got to build
that body up to take the beating of two hundred
and sixty five pounds defensive ends, you know, nailing it
linebackers and the d lineman like you got to play
a very physical game.
Speaker 2: John Beck here on ESPN the Fan, congrats to Presston,
his boy tenth grader just got I think I looked
up three or four offers at BYU was one of
the congratulations.
Speaker 3: Let's talk Bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 2: How would you evaluate Bear Blachmeyer's true freshman season at BYU.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's such a great starting point.
I really think that BYU did a fantastic job of
bringing Bear along. You know, you go and you have
a kid join the program basically in the summer. You
allow him to compete because of the talent you believe
that he has. You put him in a position as
a day one starter, which has never been done, and
you do it in a way where you bring him along.
Quite honestly, like the approach of systematically bringing Bear along.
As the schedule difficulty increased week to week, you look
at it, you couldn't have drawn up a better start
to the season in terms of if you're going to
bring a freshman quarterback along, let's bring him along as
the opponents also become more difficult as the week's go
And so I think it was just a great starting point,
a great finishing place. Bear was able to win some
games in a style that he's familiar with. Like I've
said this multiple times on the show, but go back
and go back in his high school watch how many
times he beat teams with his legs latent games, fourth
quarter every year against US at San Clementy, it was
how Bear was able to extend plays and take off
with his legs. And I mean we lost on a
two point conversion where they had Bear keep it and
he just rumbles into the end zone and they win
the football game. And you watched him then transition from
that to then being able to go and win football
games being asked to do more from a passing standpoint.
I think of like the Iowa State game, what he
was able to do throwing the football. I look late
in the season in some of the games like the
Bowl game, and how much was asked of him to
play a different style of football than the way that
they were winning football in the beginning of the season.
So to me, that's why I think such a great
starting point he's played in I believe fourteen games, right,
fourteen starts under his belt. Like I know I've said
this before. The next game he plays is going to
be game fifteen. As a starter. For most people, that's
somewhere during their junior year is when they played maybe
they got a little bit of starts their sophomore year,
and we're still talking about really good football players getting
some starts under their belt as a sophomore and then
getting more and hitting those teams in terms of starts
as a junior. Bear is going to be getting fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen all at the start of his sophomore year. That's
a remarkable place to be in terms of experience and
how that's going to help catapult him into this upcoming season.
Speaker 2: John Beck here on ESB and the fan great freshman year.
What is he going to focus on do you think
in the off season to get even better than he
was this past season?
Speaker 5: Well, the number one thing you look at his efficiency, right,
like in what areas can I be more efficient? Like
what throws do I have the capability to make that
I didn't, or I can improve on something to be
able to now gain that capability, just sharpen that skill,
just the littless bit. I was so impressed with how
he handled situations. I was so impressed with his demeanor.
You know, he did a great job of protecting the football,
not turning it over. You know, now, how do you
find open guys? How do you determine Like I can
make that throw now and it might look a little
bit tighter. It might be something that maybe you turned
down as a freshman, but now you're letting it rip. Also,
I know it's been talked about some of the downfield
pros right like at times a little bit the ball
would hang a little bit and they were just a
little off. Like, okay, now going back, what are the
things that we work on so that now from a
capability standpoint, from this space in the pocket, I feel
more confident being Jedi accurate ad those downfield throws. Not
just kind of going to my deep ball throw, but
how can I really have that range to have that
finesse forty seven to fifty seven yards down the field
where I'm just going to use the most recent guy
that I had that I felt seen in recent years.
Mike Pennix like, just uncanny accuracy downfield. It first has
to start with the ability to make those throws, and
then you sharpen it too. Like when I mean make
the throws, I mean just strength down the field from
this space, and I can work on the efficiency of
being really accurate in that space.
Speaker 2: John, I've had debates with people that come to me
with fans and they're like, you know, you know bears
a big quarterback. I think you should lose some weight,
and I think then he'll be able to throw the
ball even better.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know if that's the case.
Speaker 2: You know, I've always been around pictures, right, like, uh,
in throwers in general, not all the time, right, do
you get like the lean, elastic throwers sometimes, But like
I always felt like, man, you know, you have a
little extra fat, little buoyancy in the joints. You keep
that joint nice and tight, and uh, you can throw more.
You can get more, more, more throws in your your arms.
Speaker 3: Maybe not as tired.
Speaker 2: You know, you see the big pictures in the Major
League Baseball or a big you know, Ben Roethlisberger, Peyton
Manning was a big, big guy, you know, thick guy.
I always felt like, you know that some of that
baby fat was actually good for you and throwing. But
kind of give me your philosophy on like body weights.
You know, do you lean out but gain muscle ideally
or do you kind of like having a little bit
of like, you know, a little little bit at a
post tissue to help with like impact, right, because he's
a runner and you take I mean he took a
lot of shots.
Speaker 3: I mean he was fairly well protected this year, but
you get you get hit a lot. There's the durability component.
Speaker 2: Your best ability is your availability in college football, in
the in the in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: Just give me some of your your philosophies on this.
Speaker 5: Well, that's the main thing is durability is the ability
to take the impact and the beating week in and
week out. You know, I had some teams that had
philosophies on body fat percentage for quarterbacks. They were not
trying to have their quarterbacks be extremely lean, right. They
are looking at it as we have a zone of
body fat percentage relative to your body composition, the type
of you know, muscle mass that you naturally carry, plus
what we believe can help you in taking the beating.
We want to stay in that zone. And it's not
to do with throwing. You know, you look at pictures,
you know they're trying to do, you know, acceleration for
you know, four time's mass equals acceleration. You get a
big picture like C. C. Sabathia coming down the mound.
That's a little bit different than the smaller guys, skinner guys,
and what they now have to generate. Like football players,
quarterbacks are not coming off of a mound, you know,
And so much of it is is the ability to
layer balls, the ability to touch throw like some of
the most efficient quarterbacks you know, like over the years
have sometimes only had sixty one to sixty three yard arms.
They don't have these absolute cannons. Sometimes it's the you know,
I'm gonna use Brock Pretty. I love watching brock Pretty
play because of anticipation, because of touch, his ability to
layer throws. Brock Purtty does not have a cannon. And
so it's not about building the body to be able
to like endure more throws or to have a stronger arm.
A lot of it is the throwing is one piece.
Then the body to be able to play a season
is another piece. Like one of the concerns when Bryce
Young was coming out of college, a lot of teams
has was okay, unbelievable player. I can see all of
these things on tape. Can he be Can he play
twenty plus games for us in a season if we
make a playoff run? Is his body going to be
able to do that? We're not talking about ability to
play football. We're talking about the ability to keep playing
foot ball games from a durability standpoint. So when I
look at somebody like Bear, like I first think, you
have to just look at the body type. In general.
Bear has been built different than his brothers ever since
he was a kid, you know, like in high school.
He's always had that different frame from Hank and from
Tiger and so okay, well within that frame, now you
have to look and say what is best for Bear?
You know, what is the right weight for Bear? And
that's why there is not one prototypical quarterback size. It's
it's what is the right weight that he can carry
well that then also he can take a beating from
because if he's going to continue to play that style
of football where there's built in quarterback draws he's going
to take off and run over a linebacker. Well, you
have to be built a little bit if you're going
to be the guy that's going.
Speaker 3: To do that.
Speaker 2: How do you how do you create more velocity on
your football? How do you develop more arm strength as
a as a quarterback in the offseason?
Speaker 5: Well, in the simplest way, you have to evaluate number one,
how much are you getting out of your lower half
in the connection that it has with the ground. Are
you utilizing that connection how you need or are you
missing some of it? The next thing is what is
the body's ability to create torque, especially in football where
the pocket sometimes minimizes the amount of space that you
can utilize as you're trying to use the ground. Now,
how much torque can I create? And then on top
of that functional strength, do my mechanics limit my ability
to get all of the energy into the football? Or
am I mechanically sound because of my overall functional strength
where I don't have body parts out of sequence. I
don't have a spine angle adjustment or a head slide
or a head tilt or a front arm action that
has has way too much going on and is trying
to find energy by being active id activate that front arm,
and so much of that comes down to the body's
ability to connect from all four of its points and
have that strength that runs throughout. We're not talking about
just like the ability to move weight. It's the ability
to be functionally strong in the movements that we're trying
to do in the simplest way. When all of that
adds up and we don't minimize it by subtracting from it,
that is how we now maximize our arm ability. So
like ourm talent, what true arm talent looks like is
all of that being syncd up. So it looks and
it appears like the quarterback is effortlessly throwing the ball
down the field and he has a great arm. You know,
you can find somebody that is just going to muscle
a ball down the field. I think of sometimes when
a defensive lineman, just a big, strong individual can grab
that object which is just an oblong shaped one pound object,
and they just will muscle it down the field and
people go, well, for a defensive lineman, he's got a
really good arm. Quarterbacks can't just muscle throws to places
across the field. There is way too much finesse and
shaping that has to happen, and the ability to locate
a football and throw it on time and accurately. So
it's when I can take all of those pieces and
then say, am I getting everything I can out of
my body? That's how you can maximize what everybody notices
as arm talent.
Speaker 2: Love that breakdown that only you can give the quarterback scientists,
John Beck, If there are listeners out there that have sons,
have daughters, want to train with trained three DQB, how
do they do that?
Speaker 3: John? What do you guys focus on? What do you
guys like, say, you know.
Speaker 2: Fifteen year old kid he's getting into his sophomore season
really wants to, you know, become a more refined quarterback.
Speaker 3: How can they start training with you guys?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean the best thing is in person, right.
I have people sometimes they'll say, hey, is there any
way you can do like a video? You know, lesson?
I mean that there are times that I will have
people to say, hey, I would love to send you
a video to get some feedback. And I can give
some feedback, but there's nothing better than in person because
I can see what their body is doing, and then
I can put them in positions with either certain pros,
certain movements where basically it's I will somewhat expose the
things that you need to work on, but that makes
you more aware of who you are. Everything has to
start with awareness. It's like any change that any human
is trying to go through, whether it's something physical, whether
it's something emotional, mentals, you name it, you first have
to start with an awareness of where you're currently at.
All right, I can show you and tell you where
you're at and the whys of why you're here. Now,
we're going to work on things, and I can send
you home with things that Okay, from now until the
next time I see you, here are the things that
you need to work on, so that when we get
back here in the same space again, we're building off
of that. And so I always tell people find a
way to come down here for a couple of days. Really,
what will you do is you get, you know, a
day one analysis of what's going on. We take a
look at you, and then we start building from there
and we can start to show you here's the direction
that you need to go, here's some tools, and where
we feel like if you implement these these training protocols,
that you start working on these patterns of movement. These
will help your overall throwing ability, and now we can
really build.
Speaker 3: John Beck trained three d qb uh.
Speaker 2: Also last thing, b A B A you was able
to finalize their staff. They got their defensive staff. Uh,
they got there. They were able to retain their offensive
staff at big time. Kelly Papinga, our teammate, gets to
be the defensive coordinator for b YU. Pretty cool to
see all this.
Speaker 5: Sorry, somehow I've I think I've lost it.
Speaker 3: You got me?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Now? Johnny here? Can you got you?
Got me? All right? We may have lost them all right.
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Speaker 3: Oh, we got him back on, John? Are you back there?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I can hear you.
Speaker 5: Good now you turned into a robot there. I couldn't
hear anything.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Okay, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, last thing here, Uh, the coaching staff has been
solidified there at BYU. Kelly Pepinga, our teammate, is going
to be the defensive coordinator. For those that have not
interacted with Kelly Papinga, who is K pop and why
are you excited to.
Speaker 3: See what he can do? Is DC?
Speaker 5: Yeah? So excited? Right? Like outside of just being a
good friend to Kelly, I mean, I just I love
the guy's intensity. It's focus. I mean, he's actually a
guy that when I go to the bou football games,
I love watching his interactions with the linebackers on the sideline. Right,
Like anybody that knows the Pinga family knows the focus,
the seriousness, right, All of those things are what they're about.
The thing I'm really excited for Kelly, right is all
of the coaches when they invest time into their craft
over the years, it's always with the intent to build
themselves to be a coordinator, right, Like, I mean, look,
there are some coaches that they're comfortable in their position role, right,
and that's fine. Everybody has their space where they feel like, hey,
this is right for me. I think Kelly probably fits
into that space of the guys where he knows what
he's been trying to build for himself to become and
I think it's so cool that he's getting that opportunity
at VYU. Like my guess is Kelly's capabilities, Kelly's ability
to teach and instruct and get guys to do that
would be valued by a lot of places, and he's
capable of being a coordinator at many colleges. So I'm
just super happy that it gets to happen there at YU,
you know, I just I think it's going to be
so cool to see how that goes. And people also
need to realize, right, like, there's probably going to be
a space of time of acclamation, right, acclamation by you know,
anytime someone's a new coordinator, right, Like, there's just an
acclamation period. Right. We're not gonna have something where it's
like you just move from Jay Hill and you go
to somebody else and there's no learning period. Right. It's
going to be the players, it's going to be the coaches,
it's going to be the staff, it's going to be everybody.
You wish that it all goes smooth and cool and
great and everything. That's what I hope for everybody, But
the reality is when new pieces shuffle in and somebody
takes over right like, they're also going to want to
do it their way. Gun going to want to have
their belief systems, their mantras, their style of play, and
maybe some of it will be exactly like what Jay
Hill did, and maybe maybe some of it will be
true to Kelly, And that's what he should do. He
should be true to himself. He shouldn't try to mimic
somebody else. Like people respect and players respect when a
coach is true to who he is. And then that
the defense, the defensive room, it's gonna resemble his personality
style on what he's shooting for. And that's why I
think it's really cool that Kelly is going to get
this opportunity.
Speaker 3: John.
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thanks so much man. Always a pleasure.
Speaker 5: Hey, you guys are welcome. Have a good one.
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