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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to another episode of the Sledging Room.
Speaker 3: As you can see that there is a slight change
Speaker 3: in the setup. Aksha is not here. Sources have suggested
Speaker 3: that Aksha has locked himself inside a room since India's
Speaker 3: Lord's defeat where Mahmatsiaq absolutely middled the ball, middled the
Speaker 3: ball from Shobashir and it dragged into his thumbs. India
Speaker 3: lost a close match by twenty two runs, the narrowest
Speaker 3: defeat in recent times at Lord's I think. Sources have
Speaker 3: also suggested that since hearing about the latest news of
Speaker 3: this current Indian team, Akshai has refused food. Also, so
Speaker 3: we don't know what's happened. He's gone on a full
Speaker 3: bench stalks mode. After the full bench stalks he has
Speaker 3: he's found himself in dark places. Yesh, my god, So
Speaker 3: this is Kingshakushari. I have with me Sorrow Kumar to
Speaker 3: my left, Alan John to the right. I will drive
Speaker 3: straight into it with sort of giving us the latest
Speaker 3: news about the Indian team.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we lost a lot's Test and there was
Speaker 5: a long gap seven days gap, seven eight days gap.
Speaker 5: And this seven days gap has not turned out so
Speaker 5: much good for this Indian team because we have seen
Speaker 5: so many injuries and I think ash Deep thing and
Speaker 5: have been ruled out.
Speaker 1: Aush Deep thing has been ruled out for the fourth Test.
Speaker 5: Andy has been ruled out from the entire England tour
Speaker 5: remaining two Test matches, and there also reports that they're
Speaker 5: injury concerns regarding as Deep. Yeah, so the Indian team
Speaker 5: have added Unshul Combos back to the squad. I mean
Speaker 5: Combos was in England, he played for India versus England
Speaker 5: A and then he was there with the squad for
Speaker 5: the first Test and then he was sent back.
Speaker 3: It's it's a whole hort fust to give you context
Speaker 3: to our viewers. We are recording these two days before
Speaker 3: the fourth Test match. We have we are definitely going
Speaker 3: to have changes because, like Sorrow says, has been ruled
Speaker 3: out of the out of the Test series. Are steep saying,
Speaker 3: who is yet to make his Test debut for the team,
Speaker 3: has been ruled out of the fourth Test match, and
Speaker 3: there are questions on a cash Deep starting as well
Speaker 3: because he has a back or a groin injury. Reports
Speaker 3: are differing from England, so we don't exactly know, not
Speaker 3: that BCCI has taken time to confirm it. What they
Speaker 3: have confirmed after a viral photoshoot of Indian team and
Speaker 3: Manchester United that Anshul Combos, who by the way, bold
Speaker 3: exceptionally in the A Games, has been brought back in
Speaker 3: the team. Now as Sorrow says that Anshul was with
Speaker 3: the Indian team and was sent back.
Speaker 6: Why did that happen?
Speaker 3: Because Harshithrana, who plays for KKR and is supposedly very
Speaker 3: close to the whole set up, was kept with the team.
Speaker 6: Then backlash happened, he was sent back and so.
Speaker 4: He's not reached yet.
Speaker 3: Now he's waiting for that okay, but that call has
Speaker 3: never come, which just like gets me so confused because
Speaker 3: he was your additional injury cover for the first couple
Speaker 3: of tests. You sent him back by saying that okay,
Speaker 3: we don't need everyone's fate, so go home now when
Speaker 3: everyone isn't fit, you've decided to not bring him back,
Speaker 3: but you've brought back and should comboche himself. So as
Speaker 3: a KKR fan, Alan how I was quite surprised with
Speaker 3: Harshub being there in the first place. Like I have
Speaker 3: always said that Harshat is a very raw product which
Speaker 3: still needs a lot of polishing. I think he needs
Speaker 3: to play a lot more red ball cricket in the
Speaker 3: domestic circuit because the.
Speaker 4: Talent is there. But Anshul, like you suggested, Anshul was
Speaker 4: brilliant in the INDIAA was his Lions game. He was
Speaker 4: unlucky that he was not getting wickets, but he was
Speaker 4: so good. He was probably the standout baller despite the
Speaker 4: wickets call him not suggesting it now.
Speaker 3: I think he was the standard bullet among both the teams,
Speaker 3: not even in the Indian day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, line length, everything was on point and I
Speaker 4: would not be surprised if he's put into this playing
Speaker 4: eleven also given that he can he's a pretty handy
Speaker 4: customer with the bat as well. But yeah, it was
Speaker 4: very surprising that he was not included in the first place.
Speaker 4: Like you have this. I don't know what this probably
Speaker 4: a Delhi obsession with Hajadrana that keeps on going and going.
Speaker 4: He was not needed in this series. But yeah, like
Speaker 4: you said, the injury concerns are mounting up. Funnily enough,
Speaker 4: it's almost like that twenty twenty twenty one Australia series. Right,
Speaker 4: We've got exactly You've got a lot of people getting
Speaker 4: injured in the fourth Test, not playing the fifth Test.
Speaker 4: No boomera. In the fifth Test. We still went and won.
Speaker 4: So fingers crossed. I hope that happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like this is very similar, right, So like this
Speaker 3: message goes out to Akshay who's locked in her room
Speaker 3: that if you are unhappy, if you're depressed. This kind
Speaker 3: of mimics the twenty twenty twenty twenty one Border of
Speaker 3: Askar Trophy where India had a spring of injuries, especially
Speaker 3: in the bowling department. We debut Nadrazen that season. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that that series and one more I think now.
Speaker 6: Did not make it to He was the leader of
Speaker 6: the pace attack there.
Speaker 5: But you you had a debut there only yeah proceive
Speaker 5: and then he became the leader of the pace bag
Speaker 5: after playing this two dismatches.
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure about that. Maybe we just let
Speaker 3: us in the comments below. Yeah, but so something similar
Speaker 3: might happen in the Manchester Test as well, sort of
Speaker 3: what is your what is your lineup forget lineup like
Speaker 3: what is your bowling attack in the first place, and
Speaker 3: then take us to the lineup.
Speaker 5: First of all, I wanted to address a concern regarding
Speaker 5: just with Boura. So when the third Test and did,
Speaker 5: there are a lot of questions and concerns from across
Speaker 5: the cricketing fraternity. Will Jesse Buomra play the fourth Test
Speaker 5: or not? Okay, Then a lot of executors came out
Speaker 5: and said, oh my god, this workload thing. This is
Speaker 5: a new news generation hype. There was nothing like this
Speaker 5: when we used to play. If you're fit, you have
Speaker 5: to play. And just Boomra being the leader of the
Speaker 5: pace attack, he should play in Manchester like Manchester was
Speaker 5: the home ground of James Anderson, and we all know
Speaker 5: what James Anderson did with the swing on of her
Speaker 5: in those conditions, not only the pitch but the conditions.
Speaker 5: There were the conditions. So they all, we all were
Speaker 5: hoping that just Bomra will play now when there have
Speaker 5: been questions about Siaja's workload, also that he has been
Speaker 5: consistantly bowling and bowling and bowling. In fact, India's assistant
Speaker 5: coach Ryanthon Discat came out in the public and said, oh,
Speaker 5: Siraja Lan he has been overused and overused and will
Speaker 5: try to manage his workload. Also, so now the question
Speaker 5: remains who will play boom Ra Siraj? What about A
Speaker 5: like King Shuku said, SI has not addressed anything regarding
Speaker 5: as they made clear that and Deep but not fit
Speaker 5: enough to take part in the fourth chess matches. But
Speaker 5: there's no conservation or kliity regarding Aka Deep. So now
Speaker 5: will Combos make his debut?
Speaker 3: So what options do India have if weren't to make
Speaker 3: his debut? If a Deep and Deep have been ruled
Speaker 3: out of the fourth game. I'm saying, let's say.
Speaker 5: Imagine if a has been ruled out has to play
Speaker 5: the fourth thist, Siraz has to play the fourth thist,
Speaker 5: and ifs does not play, maybe Charlotte gets a chance.
Speaker 5: Again prussed, would you not bring back Pressed in the lineup?
Speaker 5: Spread time desperate measures? I was very skeptical of what
Speaker 5: happened with in the first two Test matches and more
Speaker 5: often than not, like we have always discussed, Pressed is
Speaker 5: more of a hiddic bowler and Manchester is not that
Speaker 5: kind of bitch. There.
Speaker 1: You need bowlers who can actually make the ball.
Speaker 5: Talk because you they could, They could use the weather
Speaker 5: conditions and the pitch to their full use and trouble
Speaker 5: the English batters. And for that, I think Chardoo is
Speaker 5: a better bowler than Proceed in my opinion. I may
Speaker 5: be wrong, but in my opinion, Chado is a better bowler.
Speaker 5: And despite Chardon not giving as good return in the
Speaker 5: first match where he played, when is not there if
Speaker 5: they want to go with, if they want to actually
Speaker 5: bolster their batting again, maybe Chado is a better option
Speaker 5: than Proceed.
Speaker 6: But I want to talk about this one.
Speaker 3: I understand your view, but I want to talk once
Speaker 3: again about a KKR bowler, or rather a former KKR bowler.
Speaker 6: Can Kulia play in Manchester? Is that an option?
Speaker 4: I think, like you said, like the current situation of
Speaker 4: the bowling attack, it's it's a desperate type right now.
Speaker 4: I think we've heard a lot about in this series.
Speaker 4: Even without bowling a ball, he has been in the
Speaker 4: mix and I feel if the pitch and conditions are there.
Speaker 4: If there is going to be some help for the spinners,
Speaker 4: which we have not really seen in these Apart from
Speaker 4: that Washington Sooner spell in the Lot's Tests, we have
Speaker 4: not seen much of help for the spinners throughout the series.
Speaker 4: If there is help for some of the spinners, I
Speaker 4: think he should be there because we need to win
Speaker 4: this Test match and for that we need experience. Like
Speaker 4: like you said, Anshul is a very good option to have,
Speaker 4: but him making a debut in a very do or
Speaker 4: Riz situation is going to be a big ask for
Speaker 4: him as well. Press is like how Sah said, I
Speaker 4: I saw in the second Test when he started pitching
Speaker 4: the ball a little up, his economy rate went down
Speaker 4: because people were not able to get those trogs on.
Speaker 4: So if he's going to be a hit the deck
Speaker 4: bowler again, that's not going to make sense. So probably
Speaker 4: that is where you need that experience coming in. And
Speaker 4: I feel Kuldib having played a lot of international cricket,
Speaker 4: Yes his Test matches have been a little less, but
Speaker 4: we all know the reasons he's always been behind. He's
Speaker 4: kind of like being like the Stuart McGill of this Indiana,
Speaker 4: when you have Ashwin and when you have Ravendreja, it's
Speaker 4: going to be a task to displace one of them,
Speaker 4: given that both of them were good batters as well.
Speaker 4: Right now, Jadeja has kind of always sealed his spot.
Speaker 4: If there is an option to take an extra spinner
Speaker 4: and if the pitch is going to be of that help,
Speaker 4: I think they should go with it.
Speaker 3: Which is also like when you bring up the Stuart
Speaker 3: McGill comparison. I feel that it's such a disservice to
Speaker 3: kul Deep, who is such a unique bowler in his
Speaker 3: own rights. He has reinvented his game. Now he can
Speaker 3: turn the ball both ways, has flippers, zooters, god knows
Speaker 3: what in his arsenal, but in his I think a
Speaker 3: career of eight years, he's played like.
Speaker 6: Thirteen Test matches.
Speaker 3: And when you are when you've gone to England, and
Speaker 3: this conversation is about how these are subcontinental pitches, subcontinental
Speaker 3: pitches when Test matches going to the day five, like
Speaker 3: you mentioned.
Speaker 6: Washington soon there ruining England with one spell.
Speaker 3: Their argument must be like in my mind, I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: how does Kuli feel because in England he would not
Speaker 3: have played He knew that he wasn't going to play.
Speaker 3: When he reached there, he saw that, Oh, conditions are
Speaker 3: probably in my favor, but still nowhere close to the
Speaker 3: playing eleven.
Speaker 5: I mean that is the biggest question mark on the
Speaker 5: team management because you have been carrying a potential match winner.
Speaker 5: It's not just me, you or Alan or actually saying this.
Speaker 5: Notable cricket experts, former World Cup winners, World Cup winning
Speaker 5: captains like Michael Clark have come out and said India
Speaker 5: have to play Kipiada if they want to win this
Speaker 5: Test series in England, because England, as we all know,
Speaker 5: they have gone. They have been, they've been the bass
Speaker 5: bawling side. Apart from the losses in the first two
Speaker 5: Test matches, they were bass bowling. And Kipiada is one
Speaker 5: guy who is actually very tough, very tough nut to
Speaker 5: crack for these English battles. We have seen in T twenty's,
Speaker 5: we've seen in ODIs and whatever you might say, even
Speaker 5: if he has not played a lot of Test matches
Speaker 5: in England and I think he's never paid England, but
Speaker 5: then again, the amount of quality he has and.
Speaker 1: The experience which he carries, I can bet on it.
Speaker 5: In any Test match where you feeled him against England,
Speaker 5: even in Manchester where the fastballers are getting your help,
Speaker 5: he is going to trouble them. And and you know,
Speaker 5: the biggest concern for me is, yes, soon there was
Speaker 5: excellent in the Lord says he produced a sensitutional spell
Speaker 5: and got in here to somehow a total where if
Speaker 5: we could have chased it down. But my biggest concern
Speaker 5: is what we have seen is like England's best batter
Speaker 5: in this series for me has been Bendicett and Jimmie Smith. Right, Benduicett.
Speaker 5: What he has done is he has taken Boomera apart.
Speaker 5: And then the way he handles even when there were
Speaker 5: roughs and Jada was trying to exploit it, Bendicett produced
Speaker 5: produce those reverse sweets, reverse laps to just deal with
Speaker 5: him and hit boundaries. I don't think it will be
Speaker 5: that very easy to hit Qui deep in the same manner.
Speaker 5: So should be getting a chance, but again you never
Speaker 5: know what our coach and the team and as it
Speaker 5: is thinking correct.
Speaker 3: There's one more reason that I'm saying this because apart
Speaker 3: from what we have spoken of in the like on
Speaker 3: the changes in the bowling department. There will be a
Speaker 3: change in the batting department as well because Risha Punt
Speaker 3: is still injured. He has an issue with his left
Speaker 3: arm and if the drills are anything to go by,
Speaker 3: Druve Juail will be playing these Test match So that's
Speaker 3: one additional member on the batting side for the Indian team.
Speaker 3: So ideally, how I'm thinking is that if there are more,
Speaker 3: if there are extra number of batters, you need all
Speaker 3: specialist bowlers to tackle that bowling department role because you
Speaker 3: don't need an all rounder anymore. You don't need a
Speaker 3: Washy Sooner anymore because that extra battery you already have
Speaker 3: in Juril. Why would you opt for an extra allrounder
Speaker 3: the Jazz already there, so get a special spinner in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: And also, like you said, in case of the batting
Speaker 4: lineup as well, the big question still remains play will
Speaker 4: he get another chance?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, because like Sizos is waiting in the wings. We've
Speaker 4: all we've heard. I think Herbizon had a exclusive with
Speaker 4: us where he said that India should be picking the
Speaker 4: best team now going forward. Like I remember Dniss saying,
Speaker 4: bringing back the Kuli equation. He said that India is
Speaker 4: not a team that has always played with four pacers
Speaker 4: out and out pacers and one spinner. That has never
Speaker 4: been Even when we went to England, we always had
Speaker 4: a Herbizont and a anilkum play. In the early times,
Speaker 4: we used to have two spinners regardless of the conditions
Speaker 4: to play, and then you had three paces.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember it heading Lee like that one game.
Speaker 3: I think it was heading Lee. So Satchin and Surow
Speaker 3: combined to score like six hundred runs and they let
Speaker 3: anil Kummel run ride on a on a pace fundry
Speaker 3: pitch and Hilkumlia has come in and he's ruined England.
Speaker 3: I don't remember if you won that test much or not.
Speaker 3: Surely we would have because in my memory it's a
Speaker 3: good either dra Yeah, so there are arguments.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you you if you if you have a template
Speaker 4: that is associated with Indian cricket. Now, I understand that
Speaker 4: this four pacer thing works in certain areas, But if
Speaker 4: you have a template that has been working and bringing
Speaker 4: in success for a long period of time, why change
Speaker 4: from it? Right, Like how Sarah pointed out, is a
Speaker 4: match winner right A lot of times Maybe in his
Speaker 4: career he had a slump, as you pointed out with
Speaker 4: the whole KKR situation as well, he had a slump,
Speaker 4: but the fact that he came out and he came
Speaker 4: out as a way, way better bowler. This I believe,
Speaker 4: like you said, Benduckett, Jamie Smith, they have not faced
Speaker 4: a Kuliba. Yeah, they have not faced somebody like a
Speaker 4: Kuliba who can. Like I said, a Chinaman bowler is
Speaker 4: something that is a very rare commodity. We don't use
Speaker 4: that term these days because it has been changed, but
Speaker 4: it is a very rare commodity. And I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: as hell Jamie Smith has not faced a bowler. Like
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure as hell Benduckett does not have an
Speaker 4: idea about how this guy bolds because Beneckett might be
Speaker 4: expecting a ball to go away from him, and that's
Speaker 4: where being the smart guy can bring it back in
Speaker 4: like so he can spin both ways and then you
Speaker 4: bring to the batting lineup again. Karunayer size. That is
Speaker 4: the biggest conversation going around right now. Has Karuna impressed
Speaker 4: me to an extent to a thirty or a forty?
Speaker 4: But like how Faruk engineer said, we want a number
Speaker 4: three to score more than thirty or forty. So that
Speaker 4: is another point of discussion that I guess in the
Speaker 4: next two days we'll get to know. But yeah, Karuna's chances,
Speaker 4: I don't I'm not very confident about it. I'd like
Speaker 4: to know your guy's opinion on that.
Speaker 5: You know, when Karnaia was back in the IPL, I'm
Speaker 5: supporter and I can never don't we know? Yeah, I
Speaker 5: can never forget that knock against Mumbai Indians. Yeah, the
Speaker 5: way he took about Boomra Santiner. He was sensational, but
Speaker 5: apart from that, he did not do jack for used
Speaker 5: because he was not able to score. He always got
Speaker 5: those starts, but then he threw away his wickets. Now
Speaker 5: what happens is he gets a chance in the Indian
Speaker 5: Test side, and before that he travels with the India
Speaker 5: Is God to England.
Speaker 1: He scores a double hundoned. I think it's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first match. Yeah, see how distant that movie looks like.
Speaker 5: And now when he has got a chance in the
Speaker 5: first tess, I think he was batting at number six
Speaker 5: because sis media is w and plaid number three.
Speaker 1: First things, he got up for a duck. Then the
Speaker 1: second next thing.
Speaker 5: Is he looks like a better batsman, and he looked
Speaker 5: like a man in control of things. But again the
Speaker 5: moment he got some starts, he threw away those starts. Now,
Speaker 5: in all those those matches, if you look at in
Speaker 5: the last three Test matches, his highest score is forty.
Speaker 5: And that also he scored only once one duck, a
Speaker 5: couple of twenty thirties and then one forty. I don't
Speaker 5: think this guarantees you a place in the next Test match.
Speaker 5: But having said that, we should not forget what coach
Speaker 5: Gambu said when the.
Speaker 1: Team was announced.
Speaker 5: When the t was announced, he was asked about coronair
Speaker 5: and how long a chance can he get in this
Speaker 5: form of cricket. Combu said, I hope I can trust
Speaker 5: him with this series. So I believe if Kambi has
Speaker 5: backed him in public, I think he will back him
Speaker 5: and he will give you at least one more Test
Speaker 5: match to prove himself, which might sound harsh on someone
Speaker 5: like exuas who failed in only one game and he
Speaker 5: was benched and he is he's yet to get another
Speaker 5: chance and we are in the four Test match of
Speaker 5: the series.
Speaker 1: So that is a big, big, big point.
Speaker 5: Of dilemma for me also whether Karunair plays, and like
Speaker 5: you said, if Druzel gets a chance, and we have
Speaker 5: been hearing reports the reship month might play just as
Speaker 5: a battle. So will Karuner play again when you have
Speaker 5: a reship Punth and Jujuel both, will you play a
Speaker 5: Karnair or will you bench someone like Sundar?
Speaker 6: So what's the lineup going to be? So like like?
Speaker 3: Since you say that, so it's yes, Let's say Karuna
Speaker 3: at three.
Speaker 1: Let argue for the moment three then is the captain
Speaker 1: he has.
Speaker 3: To play S four five specialist batter at five, at six,
Speaker 3: at seventh. Yeah, then will you play sooner? I don't
Speaker 3: think you'll be soon there, so I am skipping sooner
Speaker 3: for the moment. I'm going to go boomra Siraj at
Speaker 3: eight and nine. So we have two spots left. Do
Speaker 3: we bring in cool Deep? I think we should bring
Speaker 3: in cool Deep. If you're not playing sooner, he has
Speaker 3: to come in. So we've brought in cool Deep. So
Speaker 3: we need one more fastballer. Is that going to be
Speaker 3: shad or proceed or if fit a cash tip.
Speaker 1: If it's not fit, I will give.
Speaker 6: Chance and one spot. I would rather go because unanimous one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I first time you need to see probably
Speaker 4: this is coming from my side. You need to now
Speaker 4: go with unknown commodities as well. You need to prize England, right.
Speaker 4: The CounterPunch has.
Speaker 3: To bring back the twenty twenty one Bordergavaskart Trophy thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you you have.
Speaker 3: Seen what India has to offer. The best of India
Speaker 3: came in the second Test, Third Test.
Speaker 4: Also, I feel India has played well in all three
Speaker 4: Test matches. It should have ideally been India leading the
Speaker 4: series to one rather than the other way around. Because
Speaker 4: India has produced phenomenal cricket. There have been brilliant moments.
Speaker 4: There have been moments that have not been great as well.
Speaker 4: But the fact is now to hit the CounterPunch, you
Speaker 4: have to bring in something new. It's like I always
Speaker 4: connect this to a boxing match, right, You you study both,
Speaker 4: you study your opponents each move, and then suddenly, out
Speaker 4: of the blue, he brings in something new and you
Speaker 4: get hit and then you're like, what's the hell mean?
Speaker 6: Back kick?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Something like that. In an MMA fight, you do
Speaker 4: not expect. You expect a wrestler to always bring his
Speaker 4: ground game to for but then out of the blue.
Speaker 4: He brings out an insane boxing technique and you're like,
Speaker 4: what the hell has happened? Now? This is where this
Speaker 4: is the best chance to hit England in that moment.
Speaker 4: If you're not able to do that, then the series
Speaker 4: is gone. Now that is where I feel, you know,
Speaker 4: bring in cul Deep, bring in Unschul, because I think
Speaker 4: he has done enough, he has shown enough, because I
Speaker 4: cannot really trust Pressith with that position. Pressith has that
Speaker 4: tendency to go short at people. Also the fact that
Speaker 4: you know, giving that you like you said, one of
Speaker 4: the problems that I see with this team management also
Speaker 4: is the fact that you are sometimes trusting people so
Speaker 4: much that you tend to forget that a series is
Speaker 4: on the line. That is something that I've seen, Like
Speaker 4: how he pointed out that, Okay, we need to trust
Speaker 4: Karunayer with the series. Now when the results are not
Speaker 4: going you need to think on your feet and decide like, Okay,
Speaker 4: should I still stick with this man? Yeah? I said this,
Speaker 4: but things are not going our way? Right? How much
Speaker 4: more like a forty, forty or a fifty is not
Speaker 4: enough from the number three? We need a hundred now?
Speaker 4: Is karun are going to be that guy who is
Speaker 4: going to get me that hundred if not, if I
Speaker 4: have a if I have a twenty percent doubt also
Speaker 4: then probably I should not be going with him. This
Speaker 4: is where I feel the Gambier regime is lacking a bit,
Speaker 4: like they need to be more proactive. Gambier said in
Speaker 4: that interview with Sony Sports that you know, I'm somebody
Speaker 4: who always thinks about what happens after a game. Also
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about the next game. Yeah, probably he should.
Speaker 6: That's your job.
Speaker 4: That is your job.
Speaker 6: The job do it man.
Speaker 3: I like I get the sense of what you're saying.
Speaker 3: So basically what you're arguing is that there is a
Speaker 3: prepared plan. Once that doesn't go through, you need to
Speaker 3: have you seem flustered. Yeah, you don't. Your plan B
Speaker 3: doesn't work, your C doesn't work, D does not work.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it feels that it doesn't exist. I agree to
Speaker 3: that point because when Jadeja was batting with the tail,
Speaker 3: a message perhaps at Lord's should have come from the
Speaker 3: dressing room saying that listen, you are the only recognized
Speaker 3: man out there.
Speaker 6: Score the runs. What are you taking singles in the
Speaker 6: fourth wall for score the runs? Yeah? I agree to
Speaker 6: that that's a very good point.
Speaker 3: So basically for us, there's three contentions in the Indian lineup.
Speaker 3: It's Karun or size at three, coul Deep or Washington
Speaker 3: Sooner at the second spinner roll and who takes the
Speaker 3: single fast roller coast spot thir third spart correct. So
Speaker 3: I actually wanted to talk about something else also, like
Speaker 3: it's getting very heavy with whull cricket dynamics and all
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 6: The Indian team looked in.
Speaker 3: Good mood a couple of days back when they visited
Speaker 3: Matchester United. It was, as some suggested, an epic collab.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that collab was, for nothing came
Speaker 3: out of collab. So the greatest collab in the century,
Speaker 3: as some people put it, was between two teams that
Speaker 3: have won one One of the team has won two
Speaker 3: out of the last eleven Test matches and the other
Speaker 3: team has won two of the last eleven Premier.
Speaker 6: League games, So sensational corrap was this a little.
Speaker 3: That type thing? I mean, as magesty United, Barcelona, we
Speaker 3: were three title last season. When calm down talk about
Speaker 3: your team now, I.
Speaker 4: Probably feel probably the best movement was making despite being
Speaker 4: Barcelona Liverpool supporters, but it was all in good spirit.
Speaker 4: I guess it was something that you need in these
Speaker 4: kind of tours. You need to go out and if
Speaker 4: there is a chance to talk to another team. Probably
Speaker 4: United can learn something from the Indian team of not
Speaker 4: letting go of fights and you know, fighting till the end.
Speaker 4: Maybe something that is this team, the United team can
Speaker 4: learn from the Indian team as well. So it's probably
Speaker 4: something great talking and just having a banter about and
Speaker 4: you know, before going into the Manchester Test, because it's
Speaker 4: like you said, it's been heavy. It's been very heavy
Speaker 4: for the Indian team. I think from the moment everything
Speaker 4: started from that road Sharma retirement right then came the
Speaker 4: Koli retirement. From then Schumann Gill captain. See this that
Speaker 4: so sometimes it's.
Speaker 6: Manchester Indian team one hand over each another's shoulder. It's okay.
Speaker 1: When you're seeing this.
Speaker 5: I would have loved this collapse to happen four years
Speaker 5: ago and Ronaldo was playing for Manchester United and we're
Speaker 5: not without.
Speaker 1: Test captain that peak.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be the greatest sports person ever. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Ronaldo and Cooley, what are you talking about? Shadow Barcelona?
Speaker 5: Cut this out, Cut this clipout, will be fine. We
Speaker 5: all know what Ronaldo as a food test ticket. Let's
Speaker 5: not discount that just because I dive from Argentina.
Speaker 3: Is I'm saying that I'm not agreeing to the fact
Speaker 3: to what you claim as a fact that Ronaldo and
Speaker 3: Coley are the greatest sports personally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not seeing the greatest.
Speaker 3: Talk about your current team, not the one that has
Speaker 3: the collab talk about that.
Speaker 5: So what is there to talk about? Yeah, And for me,
Speaker 5: the best part was that picture was harrym.
Speaker 1: Was batting and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I think in the picture I could
Speaker 5: we could see that they were sharing a laugh together.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So for me it was very good because both the
Speaker 5: teams are the teams that I live for and they
Speaker 5: decide my mood throughout the year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, most heart I said perfectly as heartache collab heart Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's actually yeah, two heartache, one in cricket and one
Speaker 3: in football and both of them coming together. So the
Speaker 3: whole collab basically saw massive generation of memes. The best
Speaker 3: one for me was Casimiro winning this Indian jersey and
Speaker 3: people saying that AIFF has finally approved the players for
Speaker 3: Indian team and they would come to play.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that was that.
Speaker 3: Let's move on from the Indiangnant series a little bit
Speaker 3: because there are other things to discuss. Some important announcements
Speaker 3: have been made by the ICC, one of them being
Speaker 3: that the WTC Final is going to be hosted in
Speaker 3: England for the next three editions seven nine twenty thirty one.
Speaker 3: We have already reported, like Indian media in general has
Speaker 3: reported that the BCCI was desperate to bring that that
Speaker 3: particular event in India, maybe in I'm the bad, Mumbai
Speaker 3: or wherever to host that in India, but.
Speaker 6: It did not come.
Speaker 3: ICCI said that, keeping England's track record in mind in
Speaker 3: hosting those events, we want them to keep it till
Speaker 3: at least twenty thirty one.
Speaker 6: What does this mean?
Speaker 3: Like, can India and other countries not feel a neutral
Speaker 3: test match? If it's going to be neutral, Let's say
Speaker 3: that India did not reach the final in these three editions,
Speaker 3: can we not fill a stadium for five days?
Speaker 5: You know, I don't understand why they're saying this word,
Speaker 5: why they are doing this. Maybe they have gifted all
Speaker 5: these WRITS finals to England because they're not at BAZZ World.
Speaker 5: The England team is never going to reach. Maybe it
Speaker 5: a neutral every team that qualifies is going to have
Speaker 5: going to be.
Speaker 1: A neutral team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Otherwise I don't see any other main reason
Speaker 5: for them to gift everything to English because yeah, as
Speaker 5: a cricket fan, a test keud fan, I love watching
Speaker 5: Test matches in England. But how long will you continue
Speaker 5: to give England the hosting rights of the most important
Speaker 5: Test match of their cycle? And why don't Australia have
Speaker 5: an m MCG. You can host a Test match there.
Speaker 5: South of Ay has so many good venues, Wes Indy's
Speaker 5: has so many good venues, They have so many good viewes.
Speaker 1: India, as you.
Speaker 5: Call, is the creckating power center right now. Because the money,
Speaker 5: Why can't we host a dismatch a certain Kolkata. Maybe
Speaker 5: not I have the one, but a certain Colta can
Speaker 5: host the dismatch.
Speaker 1: Bangalore. People love sports there.
Speaker 6: We can do Bangalore?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 1: So this logic by I see, I just just don't understand.
Speaker 4: You know, one of the suggestions by pundits have been
Speaker 4: I think that is a little far fest given that
Speaker 4: you know, we decide the final location earlier. But one
Speaker 4: of the things that they had suggested was, you know,
Speaker 4: the team that finishes at the top of the Wilt
Speaker 4: set Table should have the right to host the final,
Speaker 4: which is actually a good incentive. Like, okay, you are
Speaker 4: going there. It's not going to be a neutral venue,
Speaker 4: let me be very honest, but it brings into the
Speaker 4: excitement right Imagine if an India is finishing top ahead
Speaker 4: of an Australia, you bring Australia to in India to
Speaker 4: one of the places, You're going to have a jampacked stadium. Anyways,
Speaker 4: if it's the other way around, India is going to Australia.
Speaker 4: Australia are going in as the WTC League winners. There
Speaker 4: is going to be people coming out because the competition
Speaker 4: is between the two best Test teams. Bring it be
Speaker 4: it South Africa versus Australia as well, like what happened
Speaker 4: last time around, if it was hosted in at Wanderers
Speaker 4: the bull Ring, you would have had the same turnout. Now,
Speaker 4: if you're focusing on turnout, it's just that you put
Speaker 4: it in England. Now England has a lot of issues there.
Speaker 4: What about the weather, Like right now we are fretting
Speaker 4: over the fact that what will happen in Manchester because
Speaker 4: Manchester is an area known for its rain. Yeah, for
Speaker 4: the practice day is also I think it is through
Speaker 4: Lord's was probably one place where we were blessed that
Speaker 4: there was no effect of rain. Edge West and again
Speaker 4: we were wondering if there will be rain or not.
Speaker 4: It was predicted that the last two days were going
Speaker 4: to be rained out. Then again the first Test we
Speaker 4: were all hopping that rain would come in. Then the
Speaker 4: rain did not come in. You have weather issues in England,
Speaker 4: you are and it is always going to happen in
Speaker 4: this June July time, So then why give it to England? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I get it, England is the home of cricket, but
Speaker 4: it almost feels like a deal that is being made that. See,
Speaker 4: your team is anyway is not going to reach the final.
Speaker 4: Why don't you guys just enjoy this? This is what
Speaker 4: keep it, keep it, keep it on the change, keep
Speaker 4: the change, the change. Yeah, that is something that you
Speaker 4: don't need to see. Ideally, what we have seen in
Speaker 4: the IP that the team that wins the IPL gets
Speaker 4: the chance to host the final next season. Why not
Speaker 4: do that?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you could do it like that, right, you
Speaker 3: could do or at least give them the hosting rights
Speaker 3: to wherever they want to host it. Because like since
Speaker 3: this window of June July. I don't think that the
Speaker 3: Southern Hemisphere is able to host it because it's extreme
Speaker 3: cold there. So the Australia South Africa get out of
Speaker 3: the window right away. But you could give them the
Speaker 3: hosting rights. You could ask them, where do you want
Speaker 3: to do it? Cello John?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why not?
Speaker 5: I mean, even if you play a tee in the
Speaker 5: World Cup or an O day World Cup, there is
Speaker 5: a host nation and that host nation more often than
Speaker 5: not reaches the final of the tournament.
Speaker 1: So it's homeowners any.
Speaker 6: Of that obviously.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so this is how it has to work.
Speaker 5: Like this nonsense that England is a home cricket so
Speaker 5: England will get everything and no other venue in the
Speaker 5: world can fill test matches for five days if two
Speaker 5: neutral teams are playing.
Speaker 1: I don't buy this at all.
Speaker 5: You've got so many great cricket nations and if and
Speaker 5: if you actually want Test cricket to survive and Test
Speaker 5: cricket to thrive, you should try and promote the idea
Speaker 5: of final being hosted in different venues every cycle of
Speaker 5: different venue, different country.
Speaker 1: Not England, is okay a lot more? Yeah? Okay, what next? Manchester?
Speaker 1: What next as question lit, well, this is not done
Speaker 1: if you ask me. True.
Speaker 3: So that concludes our test cricket bit. Do we have
Speaker 3: anything interesting going on in world cricket or Indian credit
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean yes, they are rumors and they're very very
Speaker 5: strong rumors about the IPL trade wars, oh is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean teams like CSK and KKR are the most
Speaker 5: active right now because these are the two teams that
Speaker 5: suffered the most. They're the most successful franchises in the
Speaker 5: history of IPO and they have suffered the most, like
Speaker 5: CSK are according to reports. I'm not saying that this
Speaker 5: is true or this false. CSK held built on getting
Speaker 5: someone like Sanchuz Hampson. On the other hand, I'm hearing
Speaker 5: that KKR wanted tunction from.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there are rumors that they might. In fact,
Speaker 5: they are rumors that KKR might entirely move and replace
Speaker 5: their coaching setup. Like Alan is a KKR fan, so
Speaker 5: we must be knowing more than what I know.
Speaker 4: So probably what I've heard and what is going around
Speaker 4: the mix is that KKR are planning to bring in
Speaker 4: Oin Morgan as the head coach, which I feel is
Speaker 4: a very good move. They want to bring in Dale Staine. Okay,
Speaker 4: Dale STAINNLI collaboration that is going to be good, I guess.
Speaker 4: And there are also suggestions that, you know, a guy
Speaker 4: like Ifan Patan might be brought into the mix because
Speaker 4: Chandra d and Dwayne Bravo.
Speaker 7: If you look at the success of the k Car
Speaker 7: franchise outside of the IPL, MLC is a league that was,
Speaker 7: funnily enough started by KKR and they have never made
Speaker 7: the playoffs.
Speaker 4: The MLC Cricket League was brought into existence by the
Speaker 4: collaboration between KKR and the US Cricket Board.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they went with it for several years, I think.
Speaker 4: Yes, and they have brought it in The Los Angeles
Speaker 4: Night Riders have never made it to the playoffs. And
Speaker 4: in fact, this season around, with Dwayne Bravo being in
Speaker 4: the men our position, we finished last for a league
Speaker 4: that we started. That's almost like saying that, oh, Nirachopra Invitational,
Speaker 4: Nichopra finishes last. That is something that you cannot imagine.
Speaker 4: And this has brought into question the authenticity or like
Speaker 4: probably the way that Dwayne Brower works, is he good
Speaker 4: for a mentor role? That has been brought into question
Speaker 4: because last season, as we saw with KKR, the problems
Speaker 4: were a lot. They failed in the auction table, then
Speaker 4: the team was not good enough. There were good portions
Speaker 4: of KKR while batting, but then they flopped miserably in
Speaker 4: run chases. So now they're wondering if this is the
Speaker 4: right personnel. What I can hear is that Abishaknayer will stay.
Speaker 4: He is considered as a valuable part. But the same
Speaker 4: cannot be said about Sandra dun and Duane Brown, which
Speaker 4: is a little sad because Sandra an Punde came with
Speaker 4: a reputation of being like an area in the Indian
Speaker 4: domestic circuit. But maybe his strict ways is not.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: Maybe his strict ways we've heard stories about that as well,
Speaker 4: how he's strict as a tactician. Maybe that is not
Speaker 4: working for this kind of set up. And that is
Speaker 4: why I think probably Morgan makes a lot of sense
Speaker 4: and coming to Sanju also, I think KKR are very
Speaker 4: much interested in as well. I think Sancho Samson, if
Speaker 4: he goes into the auction, he's going to see two
Speaker 4: teams battle hell for leather, and that is going to
Speaker 4: be KKR and UH and whoever has the bigger purse
Speaker 4: is going to get sick.
Speaker 3: What about LG L L and I don't think.
Speaker 5: And to add to what Alan said, I have heard
Speaker 5: that contact has also expired, so he might leave k
Speaker 5: k R and he kind of the prosine to join
Speaker 5: l S as a rolling coach.
Speaker 6: This is another human A coaching set up has more
Speaker 6: pedigree than the team. That's the problem.
Speaker 5: And Rajan Royals are the team to have received maximum
Speaker 5: numbers of offers for their players, like a lot of
Speaker 5: teams want their players, six players, six players ex players
Speaker 5: about the talk from the likes of San new Samson
Speaker 5: to do Jeril, to Shiman Admired to Sandy Shema to
Speaker 5: also have heard so there are a.
Speaker 1: Lot of teams that are eyeing talent from you.
Speaker 6: Six first team players they have asked for.
Speaker 4: Jail. I felt a little this thing because yeah, fourteen
Speaker 4: rows may. I don't think Gerail is a big beat.
Speaker 4: But yeah, there are six or seven I think six
Speaker 4: players right, Six players of Rajastan have been poached. I
Speaker 4: mean there are offers made and this is exciting, like
Speaker 4: we don't see this in the IPA. Let's let's bring
Speaker 4: it on. I guess this is something that we need.
Speaker 4: I think that Hardvig Pantia trade kind of opened the
Speaker 4: possibilities of what can happen that IPL transfer and why
Speaker 4: not bring it in like six seven players, Let's bring
Speaker 4: it on. I guess we need a summer transfer window
Speaker 4: for absolutely.
Speaker 3: So I think in terms of like IPL rule, how
Speaker 3: the rule book works is that you cannot reach a
Speaker 3: player behind the franchises.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to take permission franchise.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have.
Speaker 3: To talk to the franchise first, then go to the player.
Speaker 3: Have like franchise and the player have equal rights. If
Speaker 3: the player wants to move out, then he wants to
Speaker 3: move out.
Speaker 6: Something like that.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, burn that rule book, approach the player first,
Speaker 3: burn that rule book, get rid of the auction, just
Speaker 3: do transfer windows. This is exciting.
Speaker 5: So, as you have said, my question is I don't
Speaker 5: know how true or how fall this last year shares
Speaker 5: on the IPL with.
Speaker 1: Them.
Speaker 5: He did not want to be retained by KKR because
Speaker 5: he did not like the amount. And after he was
Speaker 5: picked by Japkins in a in.
Speaker 6: That the perpetual issue of a salaried employee No.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, after he was signed Bykins in a podcast
Speaker 5: with Punjapkins team. He said that he was approached by
Speaker 5: d C and Punjapkins both before the auction.
Speaker 1: So how does this work.
Speaker 5: Did these teams take permission from KKR or did they wait?
Speaker 3: Probably by the time once he was released, I think
Speaker 3: I think the relationship had fallen apart by the time when.
Speaker 4: But I think it was I think that one moment
Speaker 4: where a team directly approached a player and they had
Speaker 4: a deal going on, and that was so I think,
Speaker 4: like you said, like take out this whole thing, Like
Speaker 4: let a put a release class maybe for players, put
Speaker 4: a release classe for Sancho Sampson, say that, Okay, if
Speaker 4: you're ready to play paid twelve upfront, twelve cross upfront
Speaker 4: for Sancho Samson, Okay, you can talk to the player,
Speaker 4: give us the show us the money, talk to the
Speaker 4: player and if he wants to move, let him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is something that you should bring it in
Speaker 3: and all of that in that hundred cored capsule and
Speaker 3: in the which is which is which walks out so
Speaker 3: well because football has so much f FP issues, because
Speaker 3: some teams have like very very bloated te sides and
Speaker 3: with humong a amount of money at least in Ipil.
Speaker 4: You know that the FP is under ten crew. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that makes a lot of sense, right, you can
Speaker 4: bring it in. It makes I feel more exciting. Like,
Speaker 4: I understand that the auction is something that teams are
Speaker 4: divided on. Some teams don't want to lose their core.
Speaker 4: They find the core probably in the last year of
Speaker 4: the cycle, and then this happens a lot.
Speaker 3: That happened with k We found the perfect core and
Speaker 3: then we had to let go of it.
Speaker 4: Why not why not have that thing where you have
Speaker 4: auction for a couple of players and while you retain
Speaker 4: the core. Now, if a team management or a player
Speaker 4: is not happy, which is the case that is being
Speaker 4: set about Sanju here that he's not really.
Speaker 3: Happy with the r play several games last season. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was said that he had an injury, but like
Speaker 3: ra was asked again and again about this Wyse and
Speaker 3: he playing when will play, and there were reports that
Speaker 3: there were disagreements between him and the coach as well.
Speaker 4: So it makes sense. No, if a player is unhappy
Speaker 4: with like, yeah, I get it that you play once
Speaker 4: in a year, appeared, but if you're unhappy with the setup,
Speaker 4: you're unhappy with the setup, might as well move on
Speaker 4: find something new. Sanju Is x KKR person won the
Speaker 4: title also without playing, without playing.
Speaker 5: And and you know, this strade has worked a lot
Speaker 5: well for a couple of teams, like, for example, the
Speaker 5: lead Capitals and we got they got Wi a hunker
Speaker 5: and Sugard was very good for us in that cycle.
Speaker 1: He scored we got was always.
Speaker 6: I think two players we got. I know you're right,
Speaker 6: we signed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and it has worked well for a
Speaker 5: lot of teams. So I would love to see getting
Speaker 5: scored more. Like we all wait for the auction.
Speaker 1: To come.
Speaker 6: Auction.
Speaker 1: Let the ipeal become.
Speaker 5: More blow yeah, and let players decide that they don't
Speaker 5: want to play this or they're getting something which is
Speaker 5: very good for their career.
Speaker 1: The money is good and they can move out.
Speaker 4: And that also, you know, it's an interesting thing. Imagine
Speaker 4: a trade. Have like a player from CSK being post
Speaker 4: by am I and the player decides, okay, I'm done
Speaker 4: with CSK going to That increases the rivalry between both
Speaker 4: teams as well, you have the whole Premier League situation
Speaker 4: playing out in the i p L as well. Absolutely,
Speaker 4: why not bring it in, bring it on?
Speaker 3: This is what I keep telling Akshe that thirteen minutes
Speaker 3: we have improved IPL Yeah. We have solved India's dilemma
Speaker 3: of the injured pace rolling attack.
Speaker 6: We said, don't do loose pinner. Yeah, problem solved.
Speaker 1: Come.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We have figured out why WTC Final was awarded to
Speaker 3: England because they wanted a neutral venue.
Speaker 4: Everywhere and their team does not make it to the absolutely,
Speaker 4: so we've solved everything.
Speaker 3: We've solved cricket for this week. So thank you for
Speaker 3: watching us Akshay. It's not that sad out there. We
Speaker 3: India are going to do a BGIT twenty twenty twenty
Speaker 3: one thing because all sorry, election is going to that
Speaker 3: same way only, so don't worry, be happy. Twenty third
Speaker 3: is when the Test match starts and we will be
Speaker 3: back once again right after one.
Speaker 4: One small word for Andre Russell, who's retiring from T
Speaker 4: twenty is we've been a great servant to West Indies cricket,
Speaker 4: great servant for KKR as well. Happy retirement, have a
Speaker 4: great don't worry Kre're going to play him to he died. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's coming back us.
Speaker 6: I'm very happy that is that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: He's going to be a gay cass forty throughout.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is I'm very happy, but happy international retirement
Speaker 4: for Andrew Russell, a brilliant, brilliant player, probably not well
Speaker 4: recognized by the West Indies cricket board. That is their issue,
Speaker 4: that is their loss as well.
Speaker 3: They've lost two major big hitters in.
Speaker 4: The span of a couple of months. But happy retirement too.
Speaker 3: And so that's it from us in this episode of
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