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<v Speaker 3>Well, hello, and welcome to Fearless Fabulous You. I am

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<v Speaker 3>your host, Melanie Young, and welcome to what's starting to

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<v Speaker 3>be my tenth season. Ten years that I have been

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<v Speaker 3>hosting this show. Wow, amazing, how far I've come. This

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<v Speaker 3>shows started as a way to empower women to take

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<v Speaker 3>charge of their health because I had recovered from breast

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<v Speaker 3>cancer and was rethinking my health and how I took

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<v Speaker 3>care of myself as well as what I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>do with my life. And from that I wrote a

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<v Speaker 3>book called Fearless Fabulous You, Lessons on Living Life on

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<v Speaker 3>your Terms and thought, how am I going to promote

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<v Speaker 3>this book? And I said, oh, I'm going to show

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<v Speaker 3>our show called Fearless, Fabulous You and find amazing women

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<v Speaker 3>to interview about how we all can live life on

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<v Speaker 3>our terms in good health. So if you do follow me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that heart health is a recurring theme. I

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<v Speaker 3>always do at least two shows on heart health and

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<v Speaker 3>other health topics at least in one season, and today

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to address it again. I have hit the

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<v Speaker 3>ripe old age of over sixty. I'm north of sixty,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have learned, as many of my friends and

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<v Speaker 3>funds and followers also north of sixty, that your metabulism

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<v Speaker 3>just changes. It stactually starts chase in your fifties, but

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<v Speaker 3>it keeps changing. And a recent visit to my primary

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<v Speaker 3>care physician, because I am very good at going to

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<v Speaker 3>all my scheduled Dutch's appointments, revealed that my cholesterol was

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<v Speaker 3>a bit high and my weight was definitely too high

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<v Speaker 3>for my small frame. And granted, I live a life

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<v Speaker 3>of incredible travel and eating and drinking good food and

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<v Speaker 3>writing about wine, reporting on all that on my other show,

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<v Speaker 3>That Connected Table, but it was kind of a wake

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<v Speaker 3>up call, particularly after knowing that I have heart disease

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<v Speaker 3>in my family. My grandmother died of of cardiac arrest

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<v Speaker 3>very suddenly, and my father had ongoing heart issues which

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<v Speaker 3>resulted in a quintuple bypass surgery and a stent. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not what ultimately did him in he died of metastasized

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<v Speaker 3>prostate cancer. But knowing that I have a family history

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<v Speaker 3>of heart condition, and knowing that my cholesterol was high,

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<v Speaker 3>and knowing that my weight was even higher, I gave

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<v Speaker 3>myself a six week turnaround plan. Obviously, nothing really can happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything can't be achieved in six weeks, but you can

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<v Speaker 3>make headway. And I'm a believer that you do this

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<v Speaker 3>by diet and exercise. In Changing habits doesn't mean giving

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<v Speaker 3>up everything you love, particularly if it's what pays your bills,

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<v Speaker 3>like wine and wine writing. But it means moderation and

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<v Speaker 3>making smarter decisions. So I am going to be addressing

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<v Speaker 3>this today with an expert on my show. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be speaking with doctor Elizabeth Klotus, who is a

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<v Speaker 3>BORED certified practicing cardiologist, founder of the Preventative Cardiology Clinic

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<v Speaker 3>near Minneapolis, Minnesota, and she trained at Mayo Clinic and

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<v Speaker 3>John Hopkins. She's got a off of information She's also

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<v Speaker 3>founder and chief medical officer of Step one Foods, which

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<v Speaker 3>we will discuss at the end of the show is

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<v Speaker 3>foods that are to help with managing lowering your cholesterol.

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<v Speaker 3>Which we're going to talk about what you know you

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<v Speaker 3>should be eating, and I always hate talking about what

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<v Speaker 3>you should not be eating, but we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about adding in more because it's about crowding out bad

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and adding in good stuff. Before we get into

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<v Speaker 3>the conversation, I did, like I always do, I popped

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<v Speaker 3>on over to the Center of Disease Control CDC website

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<v Speaker 3>to get some facts to set this up. Cholesterol high.

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<v Speaker 3>Total cholesterol in the United States is pretty big topic.

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<v Speaker 3>Between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty recent stats, ten percent

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<v Speaker 3>above two forty milligrams, and about seventeen percent had high

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<v Speaker 3>debts to high density lipoprotein HDO or good cholesterol levels

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<v Speaker 3>below forty milligrams. It's a a lot of technical talk

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<v Speaker 3>for some of you, so I'll let the doctor weigh in.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing. In summary, high cholesterol has no symptoms,

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<v Speaker 3>too high. We're going to talk about how you can

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<v Speaker 3>matters because, according to the CDC, having high cholesterol raises

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<v Speaker 3>the risk for heart disease, the leading cause of death

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<v Speaker 3>and stroke the fifth leading cause of death stroke and

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<v Speaker 3>for women, heart disease and cardiac arrests is like number

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<v Speaker 3>one as from per the American Heart Association. So women

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<v Speaker 3>have a high risk for heart disease and often, as

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<v Speaker 3>I have explained on this show, symptoms are not like

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<v Speaker 3>men and they're different. So we're going to dive into

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<v Speaker 3>all this, and most importantly the takeaway is what can

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<v Speaker 3>you do starting now to maintain a healthy cholesterol for

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<v Speaker 3>you through lifestyle changes. So, doctor Elizabeth Klotis, Liz, as

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<v Speaker 3>you said before we went on, welcome to Fearless, Fabulous.

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<v Speaker 4>You, Oh Melanie, thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm excited to be here with you. And honestly, as

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<v Speaker 4>I was listening to the intro, we you know we

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<v Speaker 4>could sit down and have coffee and talk about this

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<v Speaker 4>for hours because our I think approach to heart disease

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<v Speaker 4>prevention and interest in this area obviously is very much

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<v Speaker 4>on the same page. So I really look forward to

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<v Speaker 4>our conversation today.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. You know, I always like to start with a

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<v Speaker 3>little backstory because I like to explain who my guests are,

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<v Speaker 3>which I semi did. But I am curious why you

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<v Speaker 3>decided to become a cardiologist. Was there something in your

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<v Speaker 3>own life that said I want to You know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>always a reason you become a doctor, and it is

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<v Speaker 3>a long road, and becoming a specialist is that even

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<v Speaker 3>longer road? So what inspired you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, the long road is for sure true. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean from the time I graduated high school, they to

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<v Speaker 4>the time I hung up my cardiology shingle was fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>years of uninterrupted education. So it's a it's a very

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<v Speaker 4>long road to get here. And actually it's interesting because

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't get here kind of the way a lot

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I didn't pick the specialty the way a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people pick their specialties. Right, they had you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they broke their leg when they were young, so they

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<v Speaker 4>became an orthopedic surgeon, or you know, their mom had

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<v Speaker 4>cancer so they became an oncologist. Actually, my just like

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<v Speaker 4>in your family have a history of cancer, you're a

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<v Speaker 4>personal history of cancer. My my family is cancer everywhere

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<v Speaker 4>and yet that's not that's not why it's and I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't become an oncologist. I chose cardiology honestly because of

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<v Speaker 4>a mentor that I had during medical training. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I did a rotation on cardiology when I entered internal medicine.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's a it's a layered uh, it's a layered

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<v Speaker 4>education process. First, you you know, do your medical school,

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<v Speaker 4>then you do an intro interro medicine residency, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you specialize and go on to cardiology, which then you

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<v Speaker 4>can further sub specialize into things like electrophysiology or congestive

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<v Speaker 4>heart failure, you know, transplant management, things like that. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was literally on the first day of my

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<v Speaker 4>cardiology rotation that uh, that my mentor inspired me. He

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<v Speaker 4>he just his peers batter. He's he's retired, but this

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<v Speaker 4>was a male clinic, and he just made every single

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<v Speaker 4>patient and every single cardiology problem seemed fascinating and and

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<v Speaker 4>it's an amazing thing, feeled. I mean, the heart is

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<v Speaker 4>a miracle if you think about it. I mean, it beats,

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<v Speaker 4>it pumps blood, you know, just all on its little like,

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<v Speaker 4>all on its little alone, sixty times a minute. Sixty

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<v Speaker 4>minutes an hour, twenty four hours a day, seven days

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<v Speaker 4>a week, fifty two weeks a year, for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a hundred years. It just keeps going. It's amazing. There's

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<v Speaker 4>there's no engine that does that.

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<v Speaker 3>So right, quite an engine. And it is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what keeps us living because technically, if your heart isn't beating,

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<v Speaker 3>you're dead. You know, you could be brain dead, but

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<v Speaker 3>your heart can keep beating, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a it's an obviously it's an incredibly important organ.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, and I think the other thing honestly

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<v Speaker 4>that attracted me to cardiology is because you can do

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<v Speaker 4>so much, you know there, you know you can, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's and it's such a wide breadth of almost subspecialties

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<v Speaker 4>within cardiology. You can almost be a you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>radiologist in some sense and read heart ultrasounds and heart

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<v Speaker 4>sets and heart MRIs. Or you can be almost a

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<v Speaker 4>surgeon and an insert stance and you know, or you know, pacemakers.

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<v Speaker 4>You can you know, be like what I what I do,

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<v Speaker 4>which is be on the prevention end. And actually my

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<v Speaker 4>hope is to put myself out of work is so

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<v Speaker 4>people don't don't need us anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>So I always said that when I wrote my book

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<v Speaker 3>to help women diagnose with breast cancer, I hope no

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<v Speaker 3>one ever has to buy my book. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's amazing, doctor clot Is, that we take our hearts

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<v Speaker 3>for granted. You know, we talk about women talk about love.

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<v Speaker 3>They're always looking for love, They're always looking for their soulmate.

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<v Speaker 3>They're always you know, expressing themselves and you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>love you and emoging their heart. But we mistreat it

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<v Speaker 3>by not taking care of it. And it is really

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<v Speaker 3>the beating heart is what defines you as living. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you've ever held someone like I have, who watch

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<v Speaker 3>their the heartbeat die, which I did with my mother,

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<v Speaker 3>I watched her heartbeat die, it is a very powerful

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<v Speaker 3>thing to watch someone who is dying and the last

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<v Speaker 3>thing you see is a beating heart. It is the

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<v Speaker 3>last thing to go. And we take it for granted,

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<v Speaker 3>don't you agree? I, you know, very much so.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's because it just kind of keeps

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<v Speaker 4>doing its job right and and it can take an

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<v Speaker 4>awful lot of abuse, which is you know, which is

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<v Speaker 4>which is amazing. And again, our bodies are so incredibly resilient,

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<v Speaker 4>but at some point we you know, we exceed the

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<v Speaker 4>capacity of our bodies to make up for what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why it's so important to start early in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of your prevention efforts, because both the building of

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<v Speaker 4>disease or the prevention of disease are cumulative of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>those those efforts or those habits, you know, multiply over time.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're right in terms of women, this is our disease.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we we think about and you've had breast cancer.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't in any way want to diminish breast

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<v Speaker 4>cancer as a you know, as a as a health threat.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a terrible disease. It takes, it takes a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of women's lives. But you know, one out of thirty

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<v Speaker 4>women will die from breast cancer, one out of three

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<v Speaker 4>will die from heart disease. So so heart disease is

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<v Speaker 4>our disease, and it is almost entirely preventable. Eighty percent

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<v Speaker 4>of it need not exist. And you know, a family

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<v Speaker 4>history is a risk factor for sure, but family history

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<v Speaker 4>genetics are not destiny. Genetics are a you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>risk factor. They add about twenty percent. They account for

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<v Speaker 4>about twenty percent of your risk, which means eighty percent

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<v Speaker 4>is something you have some control over if you have

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<v Speaker 4>family history. Right, you're starting a little bit behind an

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<v Speaker 4>eight ball, but it doesn't mean you're fated to this.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is an avoidable.

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<v Speaker 3>Disease, absolutely, and with all risk predenttion. I like to

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<v Speaker 3>big ones nutrition and movement. I never say exercise, I

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<v Speaker 3>say movement, but it's exercise, and those are the two

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<v Speaker 3>that can help reverse a lot of damage. But you

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<v Speaker 3>do have to start early. And what's interesting is so

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<v Speaker 3>many parents should be aware that it starts with, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>teaching good habits as children to their children, so that

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<v Speaker 3>you know they're not sedentary, they're not eating the wrong foods,

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<v Speaker 3>they're eating balanced diets, and they're leading an active life.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to this show is about cholesterol because a

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<v Speaker 3>it is a big term, and there's different terms. So

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to define the different types of cholesterol

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<v Speaker 3>because people here there's good cholesterol, people here there's bad cholesterol.

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<v Speaker 3>They hear of diet here. There's a lot of terms.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so first of all, just in general, what is cholesterol, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>cholesterol is a waxy fat like substance that can be

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<v Speaker 4>found in all sorts of places inside our body. Every

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<v Speaker 4>cell wall of every cell within our bodies has some cholesterol.

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<v Speaker 4>We use cholesterol to make hormones, bile acids, vitamin D,

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<v Speaker 4>and other substances, so cholesterol is actually important for our

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<v Speaker 4>body structure and function. The problem is, if there's too

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<v Speaker 4>much cholesterol circulating in the blood stream, some of the

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<v Speaker 4>excess it can become trapped in artery walls, and this

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<v Speaker 4>build up is called plaque. And if enough of it accumulates,

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<v Speaker 4>that plaque can narrow blood vessels and make them less flexible,

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<v Speaker 4>causing what's you know, typically referred to as hardening of

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<v Speaker 4>the arteries. And it is this process, that accumulation of

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<v Speaker 4>plaque in our arteries that leads to these potentially devastating

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<v Speaker 4>health events like heart attacks and strokes or the need

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<v Speaker 4>for procedures such as you know, bypass surgery and stents.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a you know, this is a progressive disease.

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<v Speaker 4>And to your point, it starts early. You know, autopsy data,

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<v Speaker 4>this this build up of gunk inside our arteries, it

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<v Speaker 4>starts very early. You know, in autopsy studies performed on

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<v Speaker 4>soldiers killed in the Korean and Vietnam War. So these

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<v Speaker 4>are young men in their twenties and thirties. They were

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<v Speaker 4>already seeing significant plaque build up when autopsies done are

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<v Speaker 4>on children. What a tragic thing to do an autopsy

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<v Speaker 4>on a child. But we're starting to find the earliest

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<v Speaker 4>precursors of plaque in children as young as ten. So

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<v Speaker 4>the earlier we start with preventive measures, the better. Okay, Now, cholesterol,

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<v Speaker 4>so we talked about kind of what it is generally

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<v Speaker 4>the way to You can't, for the most part, feel

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<v Speaker 4>that you have high cholesterol. By the time you feel

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<v Speaker 4>things like a heart attack stroke bypester, you've had cholesterol

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<v Speaker 4>for an high cholesterol pH an offully long time. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>the only way to know if you have an abnormal

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<v Speaker 4>cholesterol profile is to get checked with a blood test,

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<v Speaker 4>and when you do that, you will get four numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>One is the total cholesterol, and then you'll get HDL cholesterol,

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<v Speaker 4>LDL cholesterol, and triglyceterides. Okay, total cholesterol. The total cholesterol

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<v Speaker 4>is the sum of all the cholesterol in your body,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's kind of everything that's below the line. Those

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<v Speaker 4>three other numbers. Those three other numbers make up the

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<v Speaker 4>total cholesterol. The total cholesterol should typically be under two hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>It's malograms per deest leader or the units, but we'll

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<v Speaker 4>stop talking about the units because they're all the same anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>It should be under two hundred. But the total cholesterol

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<v Speaker 4>is actually less important than what it's made up out of, right,

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<v Speaker 4>because I just said there's good cholesterol, bad cholesterol, trigolystrides,

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<v Speaker 4>and you can have various combinations of those three things

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<v Speaker 4>and end up with the same total but with very

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<v Speaker 4>different health implications. Okay, let's start with good cholesterol HDL.

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<v Speaker 4>HDL is the good cholesterol. It's the happy cholesterol. You

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<v Speaker 4>want to keep it high if it helps you remember

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<v Speaker 4>which is which. HDL is the cholesterol that is not

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<v Speaker 4>depositing in our arteries. It's on its way out. So

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<v Speaker 4>you actually want this number as high as possible. In women,

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<v Speaker 4>we're happy to see it should be over fifty, so

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<v Speaker 4>you know that's where you should be. If you have

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<v Speaker 4>an HDL cholesterol under fifty, that's its own risk factor

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<v Speaker 4>for earlier atherospherosis, so it should be over fifty. LDL

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<v Speaker 4>is the bad stuff. This is the cholesterol that's potentially

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<v Speaker 4>depositing in our arteries. It's the lousy cholesterol. You want

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<v Speaker 4>to keep it low. This is the cholesterol that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>all physicians obsess over because LDL cholesterol is most tightly

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<v Speaker 4>linked to heart disease risk. It's almost you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>linear line between LDL and heart disease risks. So the

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<v Speaker 4>higher it is, the higher your risk. Most cardiologists, actually

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<v Speaker 4>all cardiologists would say, you know, everyone should be under

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<v Speaker 4>one thirty for LDL as you accumulate risk factors, and

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<v Speaker 4>that could be a family history of heart disease, or

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<v Speaker 4>you have high blood pressure, you're a smoker. At some point,

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<v Speaker 4>under one hundred would be better. Once you have documented

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<v Speaker 4>heart or vascular disease, so you've had a heart attack

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<v Speaker 4>or stroke or bypasser to your stent, your LDL should

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<v Speaker 4>fall under seventy. Now the vast majority of us will

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<v Speaker 4>require medications to get there, and there's even data to

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<v Speaker 4>show that under fifty is additionally protective. So the main

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<v Speaker 4>message around LDL is the lower, the better. The last

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<v Speaker 4>component of a cholesterol profile are the triglycerides. Triglycerides are

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<v Speaker 4>not much of a cholesterol particle. They're actually mostly fat,

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<v Speaker 4>So if you try to add up the three numbers,

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<v Speaker 4>you won't get to the total. It doesn't add up right.

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<v Speaker 4>So the formula is actually good cholesterol plus bad cholesterol

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<v Speaker 4>plus one fifth of the triglycerides gets you to the total.

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<v Speaker 4>Triglyceride levels should be under one fifty in everyone, But

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<v Speaker 4>the range of triglycerides is very broad, so it's just

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<v Speaker 4>a different animal. It lives on a different scale. The

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<v Speaker 4>lowest triglycerides I've ever seen and someone on no medications

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<v Speaker 4>is twenty seven. But the highest I've ever seen is

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<v Speaker 4>in the thousands. So it's a ginormous range. But everyone

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<v Speaker 4>should be under one fifty. Triglycerides on their own are

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<v Speaker 4>not much of a risk factor for heart disease per se.

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<v Speaker 4>They tend to be more of an indicator of metabolic health.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the higher your triglycerides are, the more likely

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<v Speaker 4>things are out of whack. You know your weight's not right,

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<v Speaker 4>you're eating poorly, you're not exercising, you're drinking too much.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that triglycerides will give you up, like they'll

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<v Speaker 4>be the first ones to rise and say like something's

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<v Speaker 3>That makes a lot of sense, So just to recap LDL.

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<v Speaker 3>You want your LDLs low, right, Yes, you want your

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<v Speaker 3>HDLs high mm and you want your triglycerides low yep. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>And you should go to the doctor like I do

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<v Speaker 3>with a shopping list. I go with a checklist. Now't

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<v Speaker 3>ever go to your doctor unless you have a checklist.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have a checklist. If everything I want check

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<v Speaker 3>because I swear if they if I don't have that,

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<v Speaker 3>then won't do it. So you got to go in

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<v Speaker 3>there and demand that you get all the necessary tests

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<v Speaker 3>so that you can have them as a benchmark and

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<v Speaker 3>read the results because you get them in your portal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's your benchmark to see what you need to

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<v Speaker 3>do if you need to do any adjusting. Now, the

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<v Speaker 3>logical way that these get adjusted from a physician standpoint

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<v Speaker 3>is to prescribe medication.

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<v Speaker 4>Right yep, high cholesterol. Here's a pill.

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<v Speaker 3>And that would normally be what.

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<v Speaker 4>That would normally be a statin. So this these are

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<v Speaker 4>you know, medications that most people are familiar with because

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<v Speaker 4>they've heard them, because they're because they're so frequently prescribed.

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<v Speaker 4>The original ones were you know, called lipatour and crust store.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they're all basically all generic, so that for maybe

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<v Speaker 4>a torvas dat YEP or suba STAT and SIMBA STAT

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<v Speaker 4>and so that. So that's the category of girls. It's

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<v Speaker 4>actually the most widely one of the most widely prescribed

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<v Speaker 3>Planet, exactly besides annadepressants and most of the relaxers. I

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<v Speaker 3>could go on, because I do have and I do

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<v Speaker 3>like my primary care physician, but he loves to prescribe things,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hate taking pills. So my husband's taking satins.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not because I I don't. So there's a big

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<v Speaker 3>reason I don't like taking drugs, prescription medication unless absolutely necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>And the biggest reason is that I write about wine.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a job, and I know that there are interactions,

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<v Speaker 3>and I read interactions carefully. I also know that you

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<v Speaker 3>can't operate a car, and there are certain things that

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<v Speaker 3>affect your decision making. And I am one of those

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<v Speaker 3>people who does not do well on prescription medication. I

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<v Speaker 3>get foggy. I have had reactions from itching to brain

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<v Speaker 3>fog to whatever. I also know that you have to

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<v Speaker 3>be very careful if you drink wine, you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>watch that, and if you're oper aning machinery. So for me,

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<v Speaker 3>She would have reactions. You've got to be very careful.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not that they're bad. You have to do what's

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<v Speaker 3>right for you. My husband is taking a stat However,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a big believer that you you know, change a

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<v Speaker 3>start with you and not what you pop. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>not the pill you pop in your mouth, but the

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<v Speaker 3>food you pop in your mouth. And if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to get rid of the gunk, get rid of the junk.

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<v Speaker 4>Could not have said it better myself. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>use that line. Okay, pray.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like to speak, but that is something I

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<v Speaker 3>say quite a bit, and you know, I'm a big

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<v Speaker 3>believer in it. It's hard, it's not easy to follow.

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<v Speaker 3>But you go into the doctor and you find out

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<v Speaker 3>you're twenty five pounds overweight in your cholesterol sigh, you go,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm going to do something about it because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to get sick. So again, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a blood test. Anyone can have it. Is there a

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<v Speaker 3>certain age that people should be starting to get their

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<v Speaker 3>cholesterol check or should just be part of your Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So actually, you know, it's it's recommended that the first

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<v Speaker 4>cholesterol check happened in childhood and and you know a

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<v Speaker 4>good rule of thumb. And this isn't exactly you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like the you know, US Preventive Services Task Force would say,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's close enough and it's really easy to remember

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<v Speaker 4>once you know, before you turn ten, you know, twice

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<v Speaker 4>in your or sorry, once in your teens, twice in

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<v Speaker 4>your twenties, you know, three times in your thirties, four

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<v Speaker 4>times in your forties, at least every other year in

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<v Speaker 4>your fifties, and then yearly sixty onwards. So it's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's something that should increase in prextent. It assumes

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<v Speaker 4>your your your numbers are normal, right, you may need

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<v Speaker 4>more free checks if they're abnormal or you're being started

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<v Speaker 4>on a therapy or you're using diet to modify this,

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<v Speaker 4>so then then you're going to need more frequent assessment.

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<v Speaker 4>But but if otherwise everything looks good, that's that's a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good way to think about it, and it's easy

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<v Speaker 3>Also if you're having life changes. I am going to

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<v Speaker 3>safely assume that if you're pregnant, or you're going through menopause,

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<v Speaker 3>or you're in some kind of treatment, that you have

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<v Speaker 3>to watch things because there are certain types of things

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<v Speaker 3>that will increase your cholesterol based on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, so so with pregnancy we can see changes

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<v Speaker 4>in cholesterol, but honestly, we don't really measure cholesterol during

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<v Speaker 4>this time. We don't do anything about it because there

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<v Speaker 4>are no safe treatments for cholesterol during pregnancy, not because

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<v Speaker 4>they're they're intrinsically unsafe, it's just they've not been tested

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<v Speaker 4>problem in general for women who are are pregnant or

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<v Speaker 4>of child bearing age. They're typically excluded from all trials,

417
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<v Speaker 4>right because no one, no one wants to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>do anything that could in any way potentially you know,

419
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<v Speaker 4>hurt the fetus. So so we have a big gap

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<v Speaker 4>in knowledge as to what to do, you know, in

421
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<v Speaker 4>in that patient population. But you know, once you're once

422
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<v Speaker 4>you're you know, you're not going to have any more children,

423
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<v Speaker 4>you're using contraception, or you're you know, past past reproductive age,

424
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.079
<v Speaker 4>you know that obviously we can use all sorts of medications.

425
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<v Speaker 4>There's there's all sorts of options for that, which is

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<v Speaker 4>where diet becomes really important, you know, for for women

427
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.359
<v Speaker 4>during their reproductive years, and lifestyle becomes really important. In

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<v Speaker 4>terms of menopause. Boy, that is a big time where

429
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 4>cholesterol profiles can change. So remember at the beginning, I said,

430
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<v Speaker 4>you know, we use cholesterol for all sorts of things,

431
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<v Speaker 4>right to make cell walls, to make hormones, to make

432
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:06.359
<v Speaker 4>file well in order to use that. The truth is

433
00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 4>we can actually make most of the cholesterol we need

434
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:13.200
<v Speaker 4>for those functions inside our cells. We actually don't need

435
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:18.200
<v Speaker 4>a lot of circulating LDL cholesterol to be around to use.

436
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.440
<v Speaker 4>But if we're if we're going to use, but if

437
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:22.359
<v Speaker 4>it's out there and in the bloodstream, it's kind of

438
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:26.039
<v Speaker 4>like sound money, like one of both making it inside.

439
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.400
<v Speaker 4>When you just grab it, you know, take it inside

440
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:30.559
<v Speaker 4>the cell and use it for what you need. But

441
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:34.160
<v Speaker 4>in order to grab it, you need a receptor and

442
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.440
<v Speaker 4>that receptor has to be primed and active to pick

443
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.319
<v Speaker 4>up an LDL particle, so bad cholesterol particle from you know,

444
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 4>from the storage time, from from the bloodstream and bring

445
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:50.920
<v Speaker 4>it inside the cell. Okay, Estrogen up regulates LDL receptors.

446
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:53.680
<v Speaker 4>It makes them way more active. So when we have

447
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Speaker 4>estrogen around, our LDL levels are lower. Our cholesterol, especially

448
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:02.200
<v Speaker 4>that the bad cholesterol levels are lower because we're very

449
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 4>efficient at grabbing it from our bloodstream and bringing it

450
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:10.359
<v Speaker 4>inside ourselves. When we lose estrogen during menopause, you know,

451
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 4>when we go through menopause, that that protective sort of

452
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:17.720
<v Speaker 4>booster for those LDL receptors goes away, and all of

453
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:21.799
<v Speaker 4>a sudden, we're left with kind of lazy LDL receptors.

454
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<v Speaker 4>And so what a lot of women experience is like, wait,

455
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.279
<v Speaker 4>my weight's the same, I'm exercising the same, I'm eating

456
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:30.519
<v Speaker 4>the same stuff, and my ld all just went through

457
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:35.440
<v Speaker 4>the roof your It's that estrogen loss is what happened.

458
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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's interesting. I have no ESG because I went

459
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.119
<v Speaker 3>through menopause and I had estrogen receptor positive cancer, so

460
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.200
<v Speaker 3>they blasted me with romats inhibitors. So I have no estrogen,

461
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.400
<v Speaker 3>although I feel very president and fabulous. But you know,

462
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.960
<v Speaker 3>that's probably another reason why my cholesterol went a little off.

463
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:58.160
<v Speaker 3>But like I said, it's under control. But it was off.

464
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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of it was lifestyle. So let's talk

465
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:09.079
<v Speaker 3>about diet. First of all, exercise is critical. It goes

466
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<v Speaker 3>hand in hand with diet. You really can't do one

467
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 3>without the other. They are the Handsle and Gretel. They

468
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 3>are the tweetlede and tweedled dumb. They work together. You

469
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>can't just exercise and keep eating what you want, and

470
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.599
<v Speaker 3>you can't just you know, stop eating in that exercise.

471
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:31.759
<v Speaker 3>They are essential. There are other things as well, right, sleep,

472
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:36.680
<v Speaker 3>stress management, your mental health. Those are all the not

473
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 3>the milking exactly, but it's really critical. So let's talk

474
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:48.160
<v Speaker 3>about diet because there are foods that can help lower cholesterol.

475
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 3>It's not they're not magic pills, but they are easy

476
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.839
<v Speaker 3>to add into a diet and to replace other things. Right,

477
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<v Speaker 3>So give us some examples.

478
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so I'll talk a little bit more in generality

479
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 4>for more categories of foods. So the things that influence

480
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<v Speaker 4>and I'm just going to focus on LDL because that's

481
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<v Speaker 4>the particle where really, you know, laser, you know, laser

482
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<v Speaker 4>focused on in cardiology. So the things that are going

483
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<v Speaker 4>to impact your LDL level from a dietary perspective are

484
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<v Speaker 4>going to be the types of fats you eat and

485
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:27.240
<v Speaker 4>the types of carbs you eat. It has very little

486
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<v Speaker 4>to do with how much cholesterol you consume. It has

487
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.440
<v Speaker 4>very little to do with how much protein you consume.

488
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:34.720
<v Speaker 4>So you can kind of leave those those two things

489
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<v Speaker 4>to the side. So let's do the fats first. The

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00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.720
<v Speaker 4>fats that you should be avoiding are saturated fats. Those

491
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<v Speaker 4>are fats that are solid at room temperature. They come

492
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<v Speaker 4>primarily from animal sources butter, cheese, the marbling, and beef,

493
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:53.240
<v Speaker 4>the fat and chicken. Saturated fats at best are going

494
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:55.799
<v Speaker 4>to be neutral, meaning they're not going to help you.

495
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<v Speaker 4>In many people, they raise LDL cholesterol, and they do

496
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 4>that through kind of the same way as losing estrogen.

497
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 4>They downregulate LVL receptors, and in some people that can

498
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 4>be a really profound effect. Like you know, some people

499
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 4>go on a keto diet and their LDL goes through

500
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:18.039
<v Speaker 4>the roof. So saturated fats are going if anything, they're

501
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.440
<v Speaker 4>going to raise LDL. They're also pro inflammatory, and all

502
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 4>of these things that we're actively trying to avoid, cancer, dementia,

503
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.240
<v Speaker 4>heart disease, these are all driven in part by inflammation.

504
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.079
<v Speaker 4>So you don't want to be throwing you know, you

505
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 4>want to be tamping that down. You're not throwing gasoline

506
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 4>on a fire. Right now, that doesn't mean you should.

507
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:43.279
<v Speaker 4>You need to eat a low fat diet. Unsaturated fat,

508
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:45.960
<v Speaker 4>So those fats that are liquid at room temperature, so

509
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 4>fats like olive oil, the oils and nuts and seeds,

510
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 4>oils and fish, avocados. Those fats are perfectly fine to eat.

511
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.279
<v Speaker 4>They're at worse neutral, so they're not going to hurt you.

512
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.920
<v Speaker 4>In most people. They upregulate LDL receptors so your LDL

513
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:09.400
<v Speaker 4>levels fall. They also help raise HDL cholesterol and lower triglystride,

514
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 4>so they give you an overall better cholesterol profile, and

515
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.920
<v Speaker 4>they're anti inflammatory. The only caveat I'm going to put

516
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 4>around unsaturated fats is that you should eat them as

517
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 4>close to their original form as possible. So when I'm

518
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 4>talking when I say fish, I mean like you know,

519
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 4>boiled or you know, or poach salmon, I'm not talking

520
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:35.039
<v Speaker 4>you know fish sticks. And I'm talking raw nuts right,

521
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 4>not roasted, salted, you know, barbecue flavored almonds, right like that.

522
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 4>That's not it, because those those unsaturated fats are pretty delicate,

523
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 4>and the more we mess with with the food, the

524
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.759
<v Speaker 4>more we potentially the nature the benefits those fats and

525
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.759
<v Speaker 4>the benefits that they carry, and we add things that

526
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 4>we don't need. Okay, that's the fat story.

527
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, I also want to just interject one thing. It's

528
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<v Speaker 3>also about using measuring spoons because Marion Nessel, who's the

529
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<v Speaker 3>heads the NYU Center for Food Studies and is a

530
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:15.039
<v Speaker 3>is a righteter dietitian. You know, they all have calories.

531
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:18.240
<v Speaker 3>So it's not like you can just drizzle your olive

532
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 3>oil all over the place lavishly, a tablespoon of oil,

533
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.400
<v Speaker 3>no matter what is about one hundred and twenty calories.

534
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 4>Yes, no, absolutely, so thanks for pointing that out, because

535
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 4>it's it's you know, there is a calorie. You know,

536
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 4>there is a calorie you know price here. So so

537
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.000
<v Speaker 4>it's not about drinking a gallon of you know, olive

538
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 4>oil every day. But but but if you're if you're

539
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.480
<v Speaker 4>going to have some fat in your diet, it's it

540
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:48.319
<v Speaker 4>should be unsaturated. All quick note about coconut because it

541
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:50.720
<v Speaker 4>comes from plant, these sources, but it's but it's solid

542
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 4>at room temperature. From a cholesterol perspective, it's much more

543
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 4>like beef fat than it is like olive oil. So

544
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, coconut oil is wonderful on your body less

545
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:03.640
<v Speaker 4>so inside your body exactly.

546
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:05.640
<v Speaker 3>And I'm a big believer in putting it on your body.

547
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 3>To me, it's lotion, but it's not what you want

548
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.280
<v Speaker 3>to ingest and I think just that whole visual of

549
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:15.079
<v Speaker 3>if it's solid room temperature, that kind of gives it away.

550
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's not your best fat.

551
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:23.519
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, okay, moving on to the carbs. So carbs,

552
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's not about a low carb diet. It

553
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 4>is about a very choosy carb diet. So what you

554
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 4>want to avoid are simple processed carbohydrates. You want to

555
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 4>just like for the unsaturated fats, you want to eat

556
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 4>your carbs as close to their original form as possible.

557
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 4>So brown rice, not rice krispies, and apple not apple

558
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:50.079
<v Speaker 4>sauce or apple juice, right, go upstream as far as

559
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 4>you possibly can. And the reason for that is because

560
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:59.639
<v Speaker 4>whether carbs are super processed or whole and unprocessed, all

561
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:04.519
<v Speaker 4>carb hydrates are ultimately digested and absorbed as sugar. And

562
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.480
<v Speaker 4>it's just kind of how quickly does that digestion happen

563
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 4>and how high does the sugar go? If you eat

564
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 4>a bowl of rice Christie's, your body looks at that

565
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.239
<v Speaker 4>and says like child's play, Like I can digest it

566
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.719
<v Speaker 4>like that. I mean, it's just the inner most part

567
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:26.000
<v Speaker 4>of a rice grain. It's been mild, it's been puffed,

568
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.880
<v Speaker 4>it's been extruded. You know, I'm you know, this is

569
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:31.400
<v Speaker 4>going to take me nothing to digest. It's predigested for me.

570
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 4>And that's what happens. It gets broken down quickly, absorbed quickly,

571
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:38.800
<v Speaker 4>and your blood sugar spiral upwards. And what happens next

572
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:42.800
<v Speaker 4>Insulin spikes and insulin is there to put you know,

573
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 4>all the sugar away. But insulin is a storage hormone.

574
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 4>It shifts our body into storage mode. What's the storage

575
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 4>from of cholesterol? LDL? LDL levels go up when insulin

576
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:58.840
<v Speaker 4>levels are high. What's the non storage from of cholesterol hdl?

577
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:00.320
<v Speaker 3>HDL levels can be.

578
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 4>Depressed when in some levels are high. What's the storage

579
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:07.000
<v Speaker 4>form of sugar? It's actually triglystrides. You can think of

580
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:11.280
<v Speaker 4>our body as having kind of covered space to put sugar,

581
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:14.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, away, because we need it in reserve, you know,

582
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 4>if you're we needed for instant energy. So it's good

583
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 4>to have some sugar like ready to go. But that

584
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:23.199
<v Speaker 4>covered space is finite. And and if you just ate

585
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.360
<v Speaker 4>a big bowl of rice crispies and your and your

586
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.079
<v Speaker 4>body just got flooded with sugar, the bie says, well, okay,

587
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 4>I've filled my I filled my cupboards. But I still

588
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 4>have all this sugar floating around. What am I going

589
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:35.280
<v Speaker 4>to do with it? Oh? I know, I'll concentrate it.

590
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 4>I'll turn it into fat and triglystride levels go up.

591
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 4>So some of the worst cholesterol profiles I've seen have

592
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:45.559
<v Speaker 4>been in people who eat a no cholesterol, no fat diet,

593
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.920
<v Speaker 4>and they will say, like, look, zero zero zero on

594
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:49.519
<v Speaker 4>the package. It's like this is great for me, and

595
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.800
<v Speaker 4>I go like, no, you're eating rice cakes and fat

596
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:57.400
<v Speaker 4>free cookies. You know, stop that. You're you're inadvertently triggering

597
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 4>a biochemical response that is comple completely counterproductive to what

598
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 4>you're trying to achieve. Okay, now, if you eat the

599
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 4>brown rice, right, the brown rice hits your digestive system,

600
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:12.119
<v Speaker 4>and the bodybook send says like, oh, well thanks a lot,

601
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:14.880
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna take me a while. I've got brand, I've

602
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:16.960
<v Speaker 4>got germ. I got to break this down. It's gonna

603
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:18.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's gonna take me a while. So instead

604
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 4>of blood sugar is you know, just zipping up like crazy,

605
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, they kind of go low and slow, so

606
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 4>your your insulin levels are much lower and you're not

607
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:35.800
<v Speaker 4>triggering this counterproductive response. The other thing that whole carbohydrates

608
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 4>bring to the party are fiber and plant steriles. Fiber works.

609
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.840
<v Speaker 4>So let me go back. So there's a natural elimination

610
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 4>process for LDL. We didn't talk about that, and that's

611
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 4>related to making bile. So you can think of a

612
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:57.519
<v Speaker 4>big funnel of LDL coming back to the liver where

613
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:01.079
<v Speaker 4>it gets taken up and turned to bile, and then

614
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 4>that bile gets dumped in digestive system when we eat,

615
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 4>gets used up in the digestive process, and out it goes.

616
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:11.199
<v Speaker 4>So that's kind of an exit strategy for LDL. Now,

617
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:15.119
<v Speaker 4>most of us are pretty efficient and so instead of

618
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:18.800
<v Speaker 4>just letting all that bile run out, we will reabsorb

619
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.840
<v Speaker 4>any bile that doesn't get used up in the digestive process.

620
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.920
<v Speaker 4>We put it back so it's ready for the next meal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>well what does that mean. Well, it means that funnel

622
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<v Speaker 4>of LVL doesn't have to be nearly as big, right,

623
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<v Speaker 4>and so we can keep more LVL floating around in

624
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:36.440
<v Speaker 4>the bloodstream. This is actually the mechanism that the original

625
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:39.920
<v Speaker 4>cholesterol lowering drugs used. We don't prescribe them anymore, but

626
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.480
<v Speaker 4>they were called bile acid resins and they literally bound

627
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 4>bil and digestive system and you eliminate through the stool

628
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 4>and it worked. LDL levels dropped. The problem was they

629
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<v Speaker 4>were messy powders. You had to take eight pills a day.

630
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:56.639
<v Speaker 4>People got digestive upset. It was really very unpleasant. So

631
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.280
<v Speaker 4>when Stanton's came along, like wait, one little pill versus

632
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 4>all this than that, So we don't use them much anymore.

633
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:07.719
<v Speaker 4>But the process they were leveraging is continuing to happen

634
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.880
<v Speaker 4>in our body. So back to food and back to

635
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:16.239
<v Speaker 4>whole unprocessed carbs because they help leverage this mechanism. So

636
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 4>whole unprocessed carbohydrates bring fiber and plant sterols to the party.

637
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 4>Fiber works because we can't digest it. So you get

638
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:30.239
<v Speaker 4>a fiber molecule, bile acid molecule, tries digestive, try suggest it,

639
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, can't do it, and before it figures out

640
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.079
<v Speaker 4>like I'm not getting anywhere, it's past the point of

641
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:39.880
<v Speaker 4>no return. So in many ways fiber acts like those medications.

642
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<v Speaker 4>It traps bile in the digestive system, so you know,

643
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.519
<v Speaker 4>escort it out of your system, so your LBL levels drop.

644
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 4>Plant sterols are natural plant components found in whole unprocessed foods,

645
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<v Speaker 4>and they're actually the plant version of cholesterol. Remember how

646
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<v Speaker 4>I said everything cell and our cell wall and our

647
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<v Speaker 4>body has you know, has some cholesterol on it. Well,

648
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.000
<v Speaker 4>same thing goes in plants. Plants have their own cells

649
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<v Speaker 4>and cell walls, and they contain their their version of cholesterol.

650
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<v Speaker 4>And that sounds crazy, like why would you eat cholesterol

651
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<v Speaker 4>the lower cholesterol. But the reason why this works is

652
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<v Speaker 4>because plant sterols are similar but different. They're similar enough

653
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<v Speaker 4>that when they're in our digestive system, the body looks

654
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<v Speaker 4>at them and says like, oh, hey, you're like one

655
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<v Speaker 4>of those file guys. I'm supposed to be absorbed. Oh

656
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<v Speaker 4>you're really important. Here's your absorption site, welcome back. Well,

657
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:36.840
<v Speaker 4>the plant sterol shows up and it's just slightly different

658
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:40.000
<v Speaker 4>enough that it can't get through, and so it blocks

659
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<v Speaker 4>an absorption site, meaning while behind it has one less

660
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 4>strawway to get back in and we waste more bile.

661
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:50.079
<v Speaker 4>So this is why you know, whole food vegans and

662
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<v Speaker 4>vegetarians tend to have significantly lower cholesterol than most of us.

663
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.360
<v Speaker 4>They're you know, they're eating a lot of fiber and

664
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<v Speaker 4>plant sterols naturally, so they're really leveraging this you know

665
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:06.000
<v Speaker 4>this you know elimination pathway. They're also not triggering that

666
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:10.519
<v Speaker 4>counterproductive insul response because all the carbs they're eating are complex.

667
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<v Speaker 4>Oh and by the way, all their fats are plant based, right,

668
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:18.039
<v Speaker 4>so there, so they're not eating saturated fat that's causing

669
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<v Speaker 4>the their you know, receptors to downregulate. So anyway, there

670
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<v Speaker 4>you go, watch your fats, watch your carbs exactly.

671
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<v Speaker 3>And you know, when you eat healthy carbs, you're your

672
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<v Speaker 3>fuller longer also, which is important to unders so you

673
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<v Speaker 3>don't tend to overrate. I mean, you know, I'm going

674
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<v Speaker 3>to zero in on one oat you know, oat meal.

675
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:43.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, that keeps you full four hours.

676
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you know, and I know I had Step

677
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.679
<v Speaker 3>one company that you founded that focuses on foods at

678
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:55.199
<v Speaker 3>lower cholesterol. I was sent some samples. I'm not an

679
00:41:55.320 --> 00:42:01.039
<v Speaker 3>energy bar girl, but I do. I make myself heat oatmeal.

680
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:03.719
<v Speaker 3>Here's my tip. If you don't like oatmeal, I don't

681
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.400
<v Speaker 3>like hot oatmeal. So what I do is I make

682
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.079
<v Speaker 3>overnight oats. For some reason, I like it with its

683
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.880
<v Speaker 3>chilled and small, not a big bowl, because you are

684
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 3>so full from it versus hot, which just feels like

685
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.519
<v Speaker 3>it's not for me. But so if you don't like

686
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:24.119
<v Speaker 3>something one way, chill it or sprinkle it. So you

687
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 3>have some that you sprinkle on top of other things,

688
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:30.679
<v Speaker 3>so you can sprinkle and it still provides you fiber

689
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:34.320
<v Speaker 3>and you do feel fuller, because I think that's the

690
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.639
<v Speaker 3>one thing. If I have it oatmeal in the morning,

691
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.599
<v Speaker 3>i am. And I've been doing a lot of weightlifting

692
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:42.440
<v Speaker 3>because I'm also really ramping up the way I exercise

693
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:46.599
<v Speaker 3>because I plateaued, So that's been helping in terms of that.

694
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<v Speaker 3>Another one, you know, there are fruits and vegetables high

695
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.880
<v Speaker 3>in fiber. An apple, you know, there's a reason they

696
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<v Speaker 3>say an apple a day, right, Yes, eats.

697
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:58.440
<v Speaker 4>The doctor away. Yeah.

698
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<v Speaker 3>So other than oat meal, and whether you sprinkle it

699
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:10.039
<v Speaker 3>or overnight it or anybody just don't happen in a cookie,

700
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 3>sugar and everything.

701
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

702
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 3>What are some other foods that you would recommend that are.

703
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:26.440
<v Speaker 4>High in that are hid fiber? You know, boy beans, legoons,

704
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:31.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, super high in fiber. Actually, avocados are high fiber.

705
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 4>People don't think about that, but they are, and they're

706
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 4>they also have all those good chats. So it's another

707
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:40.639
<v Speaker 4>reason why when you eat some GUACAMOLEA you're like, I'm full, Like, so.

708
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<v Speaker 3>Just don't eat it with tons of chips, you know,

709
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:49.679
<v Speaker 3>to do guacamole, is I buy carrot strips? Yeah, those

710
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 3>are my crunch or you can cut up a cucumber

711
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 3>crunch or something that has crunch basically, and then my

712
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:00.960
<v Speaker 3>husband's eating the chips. I hit for the strips.

713
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<v Speaker 4>Yep, excellent, excellent. Yeah. So you know, I mean really

714
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:09.480
<v Speaker 4>almost any whole fruit or vegetable is going to have

715
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<v Speaker 4>to have fiber. You know, leafy greens, you know, high

716
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:16.119
<v Speaker 4>in fiber. It's it's all. Any you know, any plant

717
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:19.639
<v Speaker 4>based food, so long as it's whole, is going to

718
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 4>is going to give you fiber. And you know, and

719
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:27.920
<v Speaker 4>and it's only when we mess with things that we

720
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 4>start to strip those you know, some of those beneficial

721
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:34.679
<v Speaker 4>that beneficial ruffage out. So if you you know, if

722
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<v Speaker 4>you crave orange juice, have the orange instead eat the

723
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.079
<v Speaker 4>orange because you know, the orange juice when you when

724
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<v Speaker 4>you squeeze it, you leave the pulp and tiff and

725
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 4>and that's that's where the magic is.

726
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 3>And if you must buy orange juice to get it

727
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 3>with the pulp of the Beth. I'm not a big juicer.

728
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:57.599
<v Speaker 3>I do like juice, but I watch sugar like hawk,

729
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 3>So I stay with vegetables. But you know, again, you

730
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:05.280
<v Speaker 3>lose the fiber aspect of it. So why did you

731
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:12.280
<v Speaker 3>decide to create Step one Foods, which is your product?

732
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Just to be clear, I have no affiliation, but it is.

733
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:18.519
<v Speaker 3>It is for people who can't figure it out themselves.

734
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I mean along the way, you know,

735
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<v Speaker 4>I mean literally, you know, we started talking about, you know,

736
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 4>high cholesterol, here's a pill. Well that's what physicians are

737
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.599
<v Speaker 4>taught to do. And you know, and and and as

738
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.920
<v Speaker 4>I look back on my education, I was educated some

739
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:42.039
<v Speaker 4>pretty you know, some wonderful institutions. I got the wrong advice.

740
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 3>You know.

741
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 4>It's the all the things that I'm treating with drugs.

742
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:49.960
<v Speaker 4>High cholesterol, high blood pressure, you know, high blood sugar.

743
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.639
<v Speaker 4>You know, these are conditions that are caused in part

744
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:56.960
<v Speaker 4>or in whole by food. And if something is caused

745
00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:59.480
<v Speaker 4>in part or in whole by food, step one should

746
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:03.880
<v Speaker 4>be change the food. The problem is that if you're

747
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:08.000
<v Speaker 4>trying to actually influence a you know, a cholesterol number

748
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.320
<v Speaker 4>or a blood pressure number, you know, you really have

749
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:12.719
<v Speaker 4>to know what you're doing. Like you know, it's it's

750
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 4>not just a matter of eating better, although that'll help,

751
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:21.079
<v Speaker 4>but it's really about being strategic and making sure that

752
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:25.199
<v Speaker 4>you get enough fiber, enough you know, plant steriles, enough

753
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:29.360
<v Speaker 4>healthy fats, those omega three fatty acids, enough antioxidant to

754
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:33.000
<v Speaker 4>actually you know, get a benefit. And and this is

755
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.000
<v Speaker 4>where it gets really hard for people because you know,

756
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:38.719
<v Speaker 4>they try, but they just don't can't do it quite

757
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:41.719
<v Speaker 4>right because it's hard. You know, you're measuring your thing

758
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:44.360
<v Speaker 4>and you're buying all sorts of ingredients. Things go bad

759
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 4>in your fridge. So so the whole idea behind Step

760
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:51.320
<v Speaker 4>one foods was Okay, let's just make this easy. You

761
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:54.320
<v Speaker 4>know this this is we know what people need, we

762
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:58.679
<v Speaker 4>can deliver it in just two small servings of food

763
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.239
<v Speaker 4>a day. We don't have to own your stomach from

764
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:03.880
<v Speaker 4>from morning tonight. We can just you know, we can

765
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:07.440
<v Speaker 4>just supplement what you're doing with this and then you know,

766
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:11.039
<v Speaker 4>let's see what happens and lo and behold, you know,

767
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:15.280
<v Speaker 4>people can see just with this tiny, tiny, little intervention.

768
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 4>And the foods, by the way, you know, for for listeners,

769
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:21.800
<v Speaker 4>are snack bars. They're you know, the things that people

770
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:25.840
<v Speaker 4>are eating already, so snack bars, instant oatmeal, pancake mix,

771
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:29.480
<v Speaker 4>smoothie mix. You know, there's there's a you were talking

772
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:31.639
<v Speaker 4>about a sprinkle. There's like a sprinkle product which you

773
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 4>can just you know, add to like yogurt or something

774
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:36.760
<v Speaker 4>else that you're eating to really boost the nutritional content

775
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.079
<v Speaker 4>of that and kind of get you to the nutrient

776
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:43.800
<v Speaker 4>levels you need to affect cholesterol levels. And sorry, go ahead.

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00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, Sprinkles are easy for people that can't deal

778
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 3>with other things. Sprinkling is good, you know, and other

779
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 3>things to sprinkler nuts, you know, unsolved with nuts or seeds.

780
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:57.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, we sprinkle a lot on our salads. We

781
00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 3>sprinkle a lot on our Sprinkling is good if you're

782
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.519
<v Speaker 3>sprinkling right things. Just don't sprinkle sugar, you know, think

783
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:07.239
<v Speaker 3>about what you sprinkle and it does work, and you

784
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 3>know at something with oats is good. But again look

785
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:12.440
<v Speaker 3>for stuff that's low and sugar. We only have about

786
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.320
<v Speaker 3>a minute left. I do need to ask you, is

787
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 3>there anything on the front of reducing cholesterol managing and

788
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:20.519
<v Speaker 3>that you're excited about that has in your crystal ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, my hope is that while we develop

790
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.159
<v Speaker 4>new drugs. And you know, and I'm not anti drug

791
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 4>I prescribe medications all the time. Some patients need them

792
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:37.840
<v Speaker 4>there they're important, they can be life saving. But I

793
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.239
<v Speaker 4>hope that in my lifetime we see a change in

794
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:46.400
<v Speaker 4>the food environment. Look, we we live in a dysfunctional

795
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:53.079
<v Speaker 4>food environment. We are surrounded by hyperpalatable, calorie dense, nutrient

796
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:59.000
<v Speaker 4>poor foods that are delicious, made to be addictive, inexpensive,

797
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 4>and advertised NonStop. What could go wrong? Well, what can

798
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:05.920
<v Speaker 4>go wrong is the health of our country. And you know,

799
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:10.800
<v Speaker 4>and we need a different path. And I'm hoping that

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<v Speaker 4>Step one foods can be you know, the little standard

801
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<v Speaker 4>bearer of how we can do things differently and how

802
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:23.119
<v Speaker 4>we can yield measurable health improvements in as little as

803
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:25.840
<v Speaker 4>thirty days. I mean, our clinical trial showed that some

804
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:31.199
<v Speaker 4>people had medication level statin level cholesterol reductions with our

805
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:35.360
<v Speaker 4>too little, you know, too little servings a day intervention

806
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.639
<v Speaker 4>in thirty days. I mean, if you're someone who can't

807
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:41.760
<v Speaker 4>tolerate statins, you don't want to take them. You've tried

808
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 4>them and you know they didn't you know, they didn't

809
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 4>work out for you, Like this could be a game changer.

810
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:49.760
<v Speaker 4>And you don't need to commit to it forever. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just thirty days and you can see whether or not

812
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:53.599
<v Speaker 4>it works for you.

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00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:56.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, I know I'm doing thirty days right now of

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<v Speaker 3>working with and I just want to in order to

815
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<v Speaker 3>you wrap this uppropriately. If you are considering making changes,

816
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<v Speaker 3>particularly in your diet, make sure you do it with

817
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<v Speaker 3>the advice and the consent of your primary care physician,

818
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<v Speaker 3>and don't do anything dramatic. I mean, I've consulted with

819
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<v Speaker 3>my doctors, my gastro entrologists because I had some GI

820
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 3>issues and my PCP before I even started adjusting things

821
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<v Speaker 3>in my diet. And I have a pretty healthy diet

822
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<v Speaker 3>as is, but we're testing a few things to take

823
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<v Speaker 3>out to see if it will help the GI track.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also ramped up my exercise. So the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>line is you have the power within you, as I

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<v Speaker 3>say at the individual, you have the power within you

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<v Speaker 3>lend of the good Witch to make the changes you

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<v Speaker 3>want to stay healthy for the long term. But you

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<v Speaker 3>have to do it today, and you have to commit

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<v Speaker 3>to it, and you have to do it in cooperation

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<v Speaker 3>with the people that are your board of advisors, which

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<v Speaker 3>are your physicians, and you have to make the change.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to thank you again, doctor Elizabeth Clotis, who

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<v Speaker 3>is a Board certified cardiologist, for sharing your expertise today

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<v Speaker 3>on Fearless Fabulous You. I think it was very helpful.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you opened a lot of answered a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of questions about cholesterol. You know, listen to the doctor,

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<v Speaker 3>not doctor Google. Get your information from credible sources, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I ask everybody to do, and don't share

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<v Speaker 3>things that you are not expert in. Listen to experts.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been listening to Fearless Fabulous You. I hope you

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy this. You can listen to all my shows on iHeart, Spotify, Apple,

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<v Speaker 3>check it out and check me out at melaniehung dot

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<v Speaker 3>com and Melanie Fabulous. I thank you again for joining me,

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Clotus, and to all my listeners. You got this

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<v Speaker 3>day fearless and fabulous
