Speaker 1: Welcome to political beatdown. I'm been Mycelis, joined by Michael Cohen. Cohen,
I guess i'll have you react at the outset to
the breaking news that Alena Haba likely going to be
the press secretary. That's according to multiple sources. You were
deposed by Elena Haba in the courtroom. She didn't have
a great deal, she didn't have a great deal of success,
and all of the cases pretty much that she represented
Donald Trump, she either lost or was sanctioned or there
was another case also where she was involved with. It
was the allegations were that she groomed someone at Bedminster
and then that resulted in a lawsuit against Haaba being
filed or a potential lawsuit against Haaba being filed. I
think there was a settlement that was reached out. What's
your immediate reactor. My dogs are obvious reacting to it.
Speaker 2: Well, they definitely are. So let me just jump in
for a quick second. I've been deposed by Elena on
several occasions. Let me say that it's an understandable choice
by Donald. If you look to see and I know
that there's a photo of the various different people who
Donald has now appointed to various different cabinet positions. They
all fit the role. As Donald would have said years
ago when I was part of his world, that it's
central casting. Alena Habba is central casting for the Press secretary.
He likes the way she looks, he likes the way
she speaks, and he likes the fact that she's willing
to go toe to toe with the press. In fact,
you'll go toe to toe with anybody to defend him,
even when things have said that are legitimately indefensible. He
will come up with a response within which to protect him.
And that's all that he wants. You see, That's why
Sean Spicer, I had said, was going to be the
first to go and lo and behold, he was the
first to go. Why because Sean Spicer wasn't Alena Haba.
He's not going to turn around and say things that
are not exactly accurate, simply because that's what they know
that Donald wants. She is. She's willing to go that
extra mile. And so based upon being mouthy, her looks,
the fact that she's a lawyer, she fits perfectly into
this position. In fact, if I could just draw an
analogy here, think about his pick Tom Homan who is
going to be the borders are. Tom is a big
fella former New York City Police officer, and he says
all the right things as it relates to Donald Trump's
policy on immigration mass deportation. He looks the part of
somebody that you would see patrolling the border. He just does.
And if you've seen that, there are a couple of
videos ben of him when he was testifying and he
was going toe to toe with AOC, he came right
back at it. Each and every one of these people
who are getting these positions are people who have fought
for him over the past, let's say, one year, and
stayed on his message and that's what he wants.
Speaker 1: Well, let me show you that clip you mentioned Tom Homan.
We've been talking a lot about Trump's plan that he
said for bloody that's his term, bloody. It's going to
be bloody, bloody mass deportations. On day one, here's Tom
Homan at that committee hearing AOC is asking Homan about
the forced separation policy. That Homan pioneer, not sure that's
the right word when he was leading ICE in the
first Trump administration. Let's watch that interaction. Let's play this.
Speaker 3: Memo you're not the author, but you signed the.
Speaker 4: Memo, yes, a zero tolerance memo, So.
Speaker 3: You provided the official recommendation to Secretary Nielsen on family
for the United States to pursue family separation.
Speaker 4: I gave Secretary Nielson numerous recommendations on how to secure
the border.
Speaker 3: And say but it says here that you gave her
numerous options. But the recommendation was option three, family separation.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, this is not the only paper where
we're given the Secretary numerous options to secure the border
and save lives.
Speaker 3: And so the recommendation of the many that you recommended,
you recommended family separation.
Speaker 4: I recommend a zero tolerance.
Speaker 3: Which includes family separation.
Speaker 4: The same as is where ever US citizen parent gets
arrested when they're with the child.
Speaker 3: Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children
from there.
Speaker 4: If I get arrested for GUI and I have a
young child in a car, I won't be separated. When
I also police officer in New York and I arrested
a father for domestic violence, I separate that mister Olmer with.
Speaker 3: All two respect. Legal assyls are not charged with any.
Speaker 4: Crime when you're in the country I legally is violation
eight United States Code thirteen to twenty five.
Speaker 3: Seeking asylum is legal.
Speaker 4: You want to seek a Simon, go through the port
of entry, do it the legal way. The Attorney General
of the United States had made that cleary, you know.
Speaker 2: And at the very end, did you see the exasperation
on AOC's face that in and of itself guaranteed that
Tom Homan was going to be the Director of Ice.
There was no doubt in my mind when I saw
that he was going to be considered and he would
probably make it, because that's what Trump saw. He saw
the fact that there was someone there who was willing
to go toe to toe on his policy and not relent.
And that again.
Speaker 1: Goes right to the hurt group.
Speaker 2: Of playing the role central casting for what he wants
his administration to look like. You see, it's why Alina
Haba was not up for attorney general. He knows that
she's not competent to be the Attorney general, but she's
more than competent to be Press secretary.
Speaker 1: Well then, but then Tom Homan's boss is Christy nom
South Dakota governor, so he picked someone there. You know,
she's the one who bragged about shooting her dog cricket.
You know, she's someone who doesn't really have any experience
when it comes to homeland security type of stuff. I mean,
during the campaign, she was serving basically as the moderator
for Donald Trump's phony town halls, where she would kind
of follow him around. Remember she was doing the dance moves,
you know, with him. I'll give you you know my theory.
You know, my theory is that Trump thinks that that
position's going to take a lot of heat. It will
soften to the public from a pr perspective, the bloody
nastiness of what's going on if you have Christie Nome
kind of in front of the camera while you have
somebody like Tom Homan doing bloody mass deportations and separations.
Because remember Homan would then kind of report to her.
She's at the home the top of homeland security. So
I think that's the dynamic that he's looking for. I
get your perspective, because I mean, to have Christi Nome
the head of homeland security. I mean, if you've watched
her interviews before and you've seen her on the public stage,
I mean it's all over the place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So again it goes right into central casting. She
has made it crystal clear that her position on homeland
security is identical. There's not a dot tom, there's not
a paragraph break that she does not agree with President Electrum.
She's made it crystal clear and that she is and
made this crystal clear as well prepared to accomplish his
policy goal on the mass deportation. Plained and simple. She
looks the part, she has the congressional background where she
claimed that she was involved in this sort of thing.
It is again a very easy pick, I will tell
you though, I don't think a lot of these people
are long termers. And I'm a little bit shocked, including
by the way like Marco Rubio, who, for whatever the reason,
he ended up giving him what do you call it,
Secretary of State. This is one that blew my mind.
In fact, when I saw this come out, Ben, I
was actually shocked. Number One, I don't think he looks
the part. You know, take a look at somebody like
an Anthony Blincoln. He's kind of like central casting. But
he's just really confident. I'm not really sure, especially given
some of the comments that Marco Rubio has made and
Trump has made about Marco Rubio going back just a
couple of years. I was very shocked, very shocked that
he elected to bring him into this administration.
Speaker 1: I think we have a montage of some of Marco
Rubio's statements, Jeremy, this is the one with Trump picking
Marco Rubio as his secretary of State is pretty hilarious.
Just take a look at this montage that we've got.
Speaker 5: Let's play five days ago, we began to explain to
the American people that Donald Trump is a con artist.
The Party of Lincoln and Reagan and the presidency of
the United States will never be held by a con artist.
Friends do not let friends vote for con artists, and
friends don't let friends vote.
Speaker 2: For con artists.
Speaker 6: I can just tell you that a con artist is
about take to take over the Republican Party and the
Conservative movement, and we have to put a stop to it.
There is no way we are going to allow a
con artist to take over the Conservative movement. And Donald
Trump is a con artist.
Speaker 7: So to be clear, Donald Trump, and now he's reporting
to this con artist right as.
Speaker 2: What do you call it, secretary of state.
Speaker 1: Fantastic, Look, Donald Trump's vice president. In terms of people
who have political leaders who have called Donald Trump. Hitler
the only one that really comes to mind. There are
people who said he's fascist, he speaks like Hitler. But
the one who made the direct he is America's Hitler
is his own vice president.
Speaker 2: Vice Yeah. JD.
Speaker 1: Vans Now his secretary of State has called him a
con artist. Donald Trump made statements about Marco Rubio that
I would never even hire Rubio to run any small business,
yet alone any Trump business. And now he is the
Secretary of State. But I want to rewind a little
bit because I think that.
Speaker 2: Can I bring up two more points here as it
relates to Marco Rubio. All right, so you may remember
in twenty sixteen, there was an ad that was put
out by the Trump campaign and it was basically turning
around calling Marco Rubio corrupt. And it literally went on
It's like a two and a half three minute commercial
about all the things that Marco Rubio did that were corrupt,
taking flights like a dozen flights from Florida around Florida
on his campaign's dome, purchasing certain things. That's not even
the worst thing that Trump did to Marco Rubio. Do
you remember in the National Inquirer on the front page,
we had a photo of Marco Rubio nude in a
pool with a bunch of other guys also all nude,
and the headline was it was a wild cocaine bash
with you know, featuring Marco Rubio. I mean, we're not
talking about somebody that turned around and said, you know, hey,
his rhetoric is vile or something like that. One calls
the other guy on artist, the other one calls the
guy corrupt, and now there's a love affair and the
guy is Secretary of State. I don't see lasting relationships
with a lot of the picks that have taken place,
including the chief of staff. I just don't see with
Susie Walls. Though. Susie, let me take that back for
a second. I don't think she's gonna want to stick
it out the four years, though I think she has
the fortitude to do it. She's been around a long time.
She knows the game, and she knows how to handle Trump.
The problem with being chief of staff is you have
twenty different people that will be part of this we'll
call it executive right administration team, and each one of
them are going to be pulling at her in order
to get certain things, and Trump hates that shit. That's
why Ryan's previous had no shot whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Cohen, this was the photo, and you specifically use the
language this is what we were doing, because at that
time you were on Team Trump. You were involved in
a lot of the stuff that was happening there, whether
it was with Rubio or Ted Cruz and all over
Hillary Clinton or Hillary Clinton. You know, before your Maya culpa,
you were involved in that.
Speaker 2: And you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I totally forgot about that incident until you
said that your team put out an image of like
a gay Org bubble bath, and then there was an
arrow pointed to someone who Trump claimed was Marco Rubio,
which you couldn't even see, and then there was an
arrow pointing to that, and that was one of the
things that tanked Marco Rubio. And that's that was That
was the photo, right, that's the one that you're thinking of.
Speaker 2: I most Sutanly is, most Stanly.
Speaker 1: Is, and that guy's the Secretary of State right now. Yeah,
you know the same way I read Matt Whittaker, who
I guess is being considered to be Attorney general. There
was this article in GQ from twenty eighteen that talks
about before Whittaker kind of rose up the MAGA ranks.
Whittaker ran would sell all.
Speaker 8: Of these like things, and one of the things he
sold was like a like a allegedly like a toilet
bowl for men with gigantic balls, and like that's what
his job. It's like, it's like a Larry David episode
toilet bowls for men with giant baldwoy?
Speaker 2: Have we really bressed on this political beatdown with all?
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: That but that, But that's it. That's These are I
think important throwbacks and callbacks, so like we know what
we're dealing with. Yeah, this is what I'm not making
I was not making this up.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that Jeremy gave me at least evidentiary support
for what I was just saying. Trump's new attorney general
has a long history of absurd scams. From November fifteen
to twenty eight, GQ by Jay Willis, Matthew Whitaker served
on the board. It's interesting they need a board of
directors for this, a board of a company that courted
investors in time travel, cryptocurrencies, bigfoot dolls, and toilets designed
for well endowed men. Now, Cohen, what do you think
that board? Uh, all right, we're here by calling up Whitaker,
can you lead the board me? Everybody, we're assembled here
at our biannual board meeting. We are determining whether or
not the toilet seat should be seventeen inches off the ground.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it be more right now.
It really has to do more with the shape of
the bowl, right because right, you know, that's what it's
really all about.
Speaker 1: Is that what it's all about? My er I I'm
glad you clarified that's what it's all about. A right
let me you see, I was gonna say, let me
rewind to the beginning and talk about some serious stuff
right here, looit.
Speaker 2: But I think this is very serious. You know, we
can try to be a little jovial during this time
that everybody is sort of anxious. It's something that I'm
going to be talking about with Fred Wellman, who's part
of the Minus Touch network as well on my Maya
Kolpa that's the one with the blue background. But we
talk about that where Obviously, if you're Maga, you are
elated at this now se term of Trump. If in
fact you are team Kamala, you're obviously very concerned, and
you're worried and many other emotions. You know, one of
the things that you know, we talk about, and I
don't want to ruin the episode for you, but one
of the things is that you must believe that the
systems will not allow one person to do what that
person claims that he can do, like rewrite the constitution
or destroy the tripartite system of government or rammed through
all of these appointments and so on. There is a
system that needs to be adhered to, and I guess
that's really the hope. But each and every one of
these picks so far, I just am concerned that they
will not respect the process, will not respect the you know,
the rule of law that guides every other whether it's
attorney general or whether it's you know, a chief of staff,
or whether it's you know, press secretary. There are certain
rules that have been followed for two hundred and forty
nine years. And the hope is that these folks will
take the job seriously on behalf of the country and
not in fealty to anyone individual, if in fact that
that individual requests it.
Speaker 1: Look, hope springs eternal, but I think it's important already
that we call out promises broken. By the way, if
the promises are kept, can call them out to But
you know, in terms of promises broken, right. Trump said
that within twenty four hours of winning, not of being sworn,
and he said of winning, that he would call up
Remember he said this, Vladimir Putin and Zelenski. I would
tell you, and I would say you do this, and
I say you do this Putin, and I'd have it
all done, and I'd have it all done the twenty
four hours. Well, that didn't happen. In fact, Donald Trump
leaked to the Washington Post that he has spoken with Putin. Now,
if you think Putin is interested in reciprocity, right and goodwill,
and Donald Trump's team is leaking that he had a
call with Putin, don't you think Putin, in the spirit
of reciprocity, would say we did have a call. It
was productive. No, pull that up. The Kremlin has said,
we don't know what he's talking about. It's absolutely pure fiction.
Phone call didn't happen. What else did they do in Russia?
And again this is not getting mainstream play. It's why
we have to build our media platform as well. After
Dinald Trump saying that he told the Russian leader not
to escalate in Ukraine. What did Putin do?
Speaker 2: Escalated?
Speaker 1: Amassed an additional fifty thousand soldiers, including North Korean troops,
ahead of a counter offensive right after that call took place,
and did a lot of other very kind of furtive
moves showing an escalation as well, like clear escalation taking place.
And then Putin has Russian national TV show these photographs
of Milania, the nudes, and they were just laughing, you
know how Donald Trump, and they did this in purpose right,
because they said, you know, you know, Trump goes there.
I hate when people laugh at me. The world's laughing
at me. They're laughing. So what does Putin have his
people do at the Russian state media laugh at him?
And what more way can you disrespect like a man,
like an alpha man? I mean, it's probably other ways,
but in what more ways can you disrespect him? Then
showing nudes of the man's wife and then laughing hysterically
and then saying, oh, I guess it's her body, her choice,
as they're laughing on Russian state media, all after Donald
Trump claimed he was having productive conversations with Vladimir put
I want to talk about.
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Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He ran on, I'm gonna be tough with Putin and
I'm gonna call him on day one, and I'm gonna
call Zelensky on day one after the election, and I'm
gonna say, you do this, you do this. So Trump
lames he called Putin, he leaked it to the Washington
Post that this conversation happened, and then Putin, giving the
middle fingerback, said pure fiction. Phone call didn't happen. In fact,
he goes, I'm gonna then direct Russian State TV to
show Milania nudes and then laugh at Milania and Donald
Trump to their faces. And then I'm going to escalate
in Ukraine to show Donald Trump that I'm the alpha here.
And then Cohen to make matters even worse or more obvious,
then his senior aid releases a message a communicate across
all Russian TV saying the following quote to achieve success
in the elections, Donald Trump relied on certain forces to
which he has corresponding obligations and as a responsible person,
he will be oblige to fulfill them. And that came
from the chairman of Russia's Maritime College and a close
Putin aid, So that wouldn't happen without Putin giving the
green light to that. Nikolay Petrtchev puts that out. So
Putin sending a message here. It's pretty obvious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. I do want to
turn around and say, as it relates to Russia and
Putin and Ukraine and Israel and Kamas and the mass
deportation and so on, if you look at the historical waves,
the dips, and the troughs in regard to these elections,
this was an anger vote at where we are as
a country right now, despite the fact that many of
us believe that Joe Biden and Democrats have done a
pretty fantastic job over the course of the last four years.
So what ends up happening in the midterms you'll see
is basically it becomes a referendum on how much Trump
is going to be successful in fulfilling the pledges that
he made during the campaign, and this always this historically happens,
it goes and you could look look it up your
You'll see every two years when they have the Congressional
you will see that there's always a change, whether it's
the House of the Senate, unless, of course, the president
is successful in a plethora of policies that promises that
they made during the campaign that they ultimately fulfill. And
I believe that the very first promise that Donald Trump
will put out there, because I do know from some
insiders that they intend on like over two dozen executive
orders that he intends to come right to the White
House with on day number one, one of which is
the mass deportation. And this is where you know you're
going to have home in and Christy Nome are going
to have to really step up and so on. Now,
if that doesn't end up going as expected, you can
expect Trump to demonstrate his anger towards them, right and
it's a very precarious situation for them to be. I
wanted just to say one last thing, Ben. When you
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This isn't the time to start to unsubscribe, whether it's
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television or cable news not actually providing the legitimate truth
or spinning it in ways that are not legitimate. They
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the list to get a interview with the president or
the vice president or Alina Haba's press secretary. They're willing
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will continue to grow, stay in and day out. You know.
Speaker 1: I did a whole segment on this Michael Cohen that
after the election, David Zaslov, who's the chairman of Warner Discovery,
he was basically saying, look now that Trump won and
Warner Discovery owns CNN, we're gonna have this great age
of mergers and acquisitions. We're gonna unleash all these corporate mergers,
and we'll be able to finally do the things that
we wanted to do, you know. And Zaslov had made
a comment like that when he was in Sun Valley
in Idaho at this Allen and Company convention several months
back that I highlighted where it seemed that he was
rooting for Donald Trump, and that seemed, in my own opinion,
to permeate CNN's coverage. So I had to do some
digging though, and I had to see, Okay, then there
must have been you know, was Zaslov trying to do
a merger during the Biden administration that didn't work. That
was that Biden blocked, and that now he's saying these things.
So I look back and lo and behold. Though the
very merger that gave Zaslav control over CNN took place
April twenty twenty two, when Biden was in office. The
merger between Discovery and Warner was approved. The issue was
the merger wasn't all that successful, not because it was
Biden's fault, but because people stopped watching CNN's coverage. So
they had all of these assets like HBO, Max and
Discovery that.
Speaker 2: Was doing good.
Speaker 1: They thought that they could buy CNN and turn it
like Foxlight or make it like a Fox News and
then grow it. But people weren't buying it, so the
merger was bad, and they actually called that the CNN company.
They called Shitco internally, as though Shitco is the CNN
linear assets. So then it became clear to me. So
basically what you're saying, Zaslav is you were paid tens
of millions of dollars every year you did the merger
during the time when Biden was in office, the merger
didn't go as planned because Biden was no drama. And
now you're saying, oh, it must have been Biden's fault.
And I don't mean to single Zaslav out, but I
think that that is something that we've seen over and
over again with lots of different groups as well, that
they've tried to just play the blame game over and
over again.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And again I'm not doing the post mortem blame thing here,
but I simply say, and I repeat this, you know,
this is where a political party, where you have a
great story to tell about accomplishments, really needs to step
up and tell that story. I mean, look, you want
to talk about the unemployment rate is the lowest since
nineteen sixty eight, Inflation at two point two, which is
below average normal inflation that was brought under control by Biden.
GDP growth the best in the world, financial markets under
Biden soaring. Biden actually cut the deficit, We've had a
manufacturing boom. I mean, you could just take a look
at the charts. I mean, if you look at the
charts under total construction spending under Trump, just take a
look at it. It's flat it's level under Biden. Look
at the ingenuity of America that was unleashed. The manufacturing
boom is felt across the country in the infrastructure projects
that were going up. So, as I've said before, Biden
understood the pulse of the nation. He understood the moment.
That's why he livered infrastructure, bottom up, middle out economics,
why he focused his tax programs on helping middle class
and people aspiring to be in middle class. Not the billionaires,
but Cohen, the billionaires, the oligarchs. They were very instrumental
in letting people know that even despite all of these metrics,
that people's struggles post COVID, which we have to acknowledge
those struggles are real. Were Biden's fault versus the fact
that people coming out of a pandemic, catastrophic event, it's
going to take time to heal and people cannibalize. Biden
versus uplifted the messages clearly not the messenger he was before.
Speaker 2: Well what they did then, what they did is they
ignored every single thing that you just showed on that chart,
and they leap fraud it with things like guess the
cost of eggs, milk, bacon. Remember when Trump had that
whole table of food outside. I think it was ben
Minster his golf course and ben Minster showing that nobody
could afford what's on this table here, and that was
the message that they kept hammering home. You see, look,
let's just not bullshit one another here. There's no bullshit
on Midas Touch network and definitively not on political beatdown.
The Democrats we fucked up are messaging has always been shit.
And say whatever you want about Donald Trump, many things
that you could say about him. One thing he is,
hands down, he is the master of media manipulation. What
they do is every single one of their hundred one
hundred different speakers and they're they're different messengers. They all
get the identical talking points memo every single morning at
eight am, and they turn around they say, if you
are going to speak and you're going to go on
television or speak to media, put your just hit reply back.
I'm going on so and so where and use these
talking points for today. So now what happens. You have
one hundred different messengers every single day on the identical point,
whereas in the Democrat group you have hundreds of messengers,
but nobody is on point with anybody else. It's everybody
sort of doing their own thing answering questions. It's why
if you listen to some of the responses by I'll
give you an example. What's his name? He just got
offered a position as well. Oh, the congress member from
here from New York, leez Elden Leese Elvin. They asked
Leez Elvin a question, and the response goes right to
oil and drilling and the economy. It's as an opposite,
polar opposite if I turn around and say black versus white,
or North versus South. He didn't answer the question at
all because that wasn't part of the talking points memo.
They absolutely hammered everything home and those comments and the
talking points get regurgitated over and over and over and
then over again, where ultimately, even if it's a lie,
as Stalin used to say, if you repeat the lie
enough times, the lie ultimately becomes the truth.
Speaker 1: And let me show you for example, here was a
Latino Trump voter on CNN and recently he's wearing the
Trump hat. He wears the like yellow hair Trump wig.
You could I thought that was the guy's real air
at first. There it's the Trump wig that he's wearing,
and he says, look, we're not going to get deported.
I'm family oriented and and they're only going to go
after the criminals. They're not coming after me. Here play
this clip.
Speaker 9: If they let in hundreds of thousands of people already
have criminal records, if deporting them create some mass deportation,
I'm all for it.
Speaker 4: But what if rounded up in all of that are
people who work on a farm, If they're doing.
Speaker 1: The jobs that Americans don't want to do.
Speaker 2: What does that worry you?
Speaker 9: That wouldn't be fair. Of course, you know, they need
to make sure that they don't throw away, they don't
kick out, they don't the poor people that are there.
Speaker 2: Family oriented, the question they won't asleep Again, I'm so
sorry to interrupt you, but it's important. It's part of
the talking points memo that everybody got. Make sure you
refer to all the illegal immigrants as criminals, rapists, drug dealers, murderers,
and so on, people coming in from insane asylums. This man,
who clearly has a diminished IQ based upon his commentary,
is merely regurgitating the stupidity that he heard over and over
and over again, based upon whoever it was, and whatever
source that he's obtaining his information from. Again, it is
all the same talking point, and now you have another
person who's out there spewing it. That's the name of
the game.
Speaker 1: Well look, you know, but now it's now that they've
got his vote, right, they don't have to do the
charade anymore. They could go and say what they're going
to do. Right, And so Charlie Kirk, who is in
Donald Trump's inner circle, he said the following about Tom Holman,
who's now the borders are he said, Tom Holman announces
he will begin workplace immigration raids. If you are illegal,
get out of our country now. It will save us
time and energy and also spare you the humiliation. The
days of gaming America's immigration system with impunity are over.
Get out. If you just break down that statement, what
they're saying, they're going to do workplace immigration rates, meaning
they're going to go to places where migrants are working
construction sites, farms, restaurants like that guy was in, and
they're gonna say, show us your papers, and then the
people are gonna say, I don't know, I don't know.
I thought it was family oriented, and then they're going
to throw you in cages and then they're going to
take you out of the country. And as even Donald
Trump said, you know, he said he was going to
send the Haitians to Venezuela, like he's going to send
you to random countries. And that's what's going to happen.
And I just want you to think, from just a
practical standpoint workplace immigration raids. Just think about the mere
threat of that, the disruption that's going to cause if
people in their workplaces are going Am I going to
get raided today? Should I even show up to my
work today? I'm not a criminal, By the way, Cohen,
you me. I don't know anybody who I talk to
who thinks, you know what, the criminals need to stay here,
the terrorists need to stay here. Deport the criminals terrorists yesterday,
get them out, lock them up. We don't want criminals,
We don't want terrorists.
Speaker 2: We also have to acknowledge those that you bring up
such a great point here, it's a phenomenal point. Number one.
Just because Donald and the talking points tell you that
their rapist, murderers, drug dealers, that they're all you know,
from insane asylums, does make it accurate, all right? A
bunch of our brigaders, and many of whom are now
I don't know, trolls. You don't believe that Donald Trump
is going to actually do a mass deportation. Let me
be very very clear. I know him better than everybody.
I know him better than any of the including the
people like a Tom Homan, including Christinole. I know him
better than them all. And I'm telling you for a fact,
that's the first bill that he's putting forth. Why because
he could then continue to ride that deportation as being
responsive and actually doing what he said he was going
to do on the campaign trail. It goes even one
step further. Do I think it's going to be the
ten million that they were talking about and so on?
The answer is no, He's immediately going to go for
the low hanging fruit. And who's the low hanging fruit.
They're the migrants that are staying in hotels that are
already in the system. We know exactly who they are,
we know exactly where they are at all hours. They're
basically confined to these hotels until such time as the
immigration process works. They will send buses, load them up,
drive them or fly them to their country of origin.
That way he can declare a victory. Now, you and
I and others may turn around and say, but that's
not a victory. That's a terrible, terrible thing, I assure
you his supporters. And obviously it's more than fifty point
one percent of this country believe. In fact, it's actually
closer to sixty eight percent of this country believe that
all the migrants should be deported. That number, it's an
enormously high number. He will now hit a home run
with that almost seventy percent of this country. It'll be
a home run for him, And that's what they're going
to do, mark my words on it.
Speaker 1: Well, the only part that I disagree with you there
is perhaps in his base they'll view that as a
home run temporarily. But like all of these ideas, shut
down the Department of Education, shut down the border, shut
down the government. It's easy to be a destroyer, right, right.
It's easy for me to take this cup and just
throw it on the floor.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to produce and develop something and
build systems and institutions. It's easy to destroy. Okay, shut
down the border. Okay, well you shut it down. Guess
what how are we going to get the products that
are being manufactured, say in Tijuana at cheaper prices, into
other factories at America where you take those products, you
combine them with other stuff and then you make things here.
How do we send our products into Mexico? How do
we bring other products and produce from South America? If
you just shut down a border, what is that going
to cause economic devastation? Remember one day where Texas Governor
Abbott tried to like shut it down by like doing
inspections of the vehicles that caused literally tens of billions
of dollars in damages. So at a practical level, there
will be massive economic turmoil if and when they do that.
Shut down the government. Okay, well, people don't get their checks,
you don't get your services, and shutting down the government
results in economic catastrophe, recession and depression. Shut down the
Department of Education. That may be something that sounds wonderful
to people in certain red states, until all of a
sudden they're like, wait a minute, where's the lunches, where's
the food for my kids? I now have to go
back to the grocery stores, where, by the way, the
prices are higher because you've now deported the migrants who
are helping get the goods there in the first place.
And by the way, you've tariffed ourselves. You're not tariffing China.
You're putting taxes on goods here. So now I have
to pay for higher prices, and there's no kind of
food assistance programs at our schools. Then what Cohen and
I just think, Look, I don't want any of those
things to happen, but what we have to be prepared
for is when they happen, to let people know where
to direct your anger, because I damn sure promise you
Republicans are going to do what they always do. They
take the economic gains made by Democrats Obama, Clinton and
now Biden, they sink it they're the arsonists, and then
once America wakes up, they then blame the Democrats who
are now trying to rebuild and fix. And every time
Democrats fall right back into the trap because rather than
unite and have a strong message and let people know
what's the cause, they buy into all the right wing crap.
They get they're being worked, and they get worked, and
then they change their message so that they try to
look like Republicans or magas versus looking like how they should,
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Speaker 1: Welcome, Thank you to our pro democracy sponsors.
Speaker 2: Can I just jump in for one very quick second,
Sorry than i'mus fleeing a bunch of the again comments
that were coming through, Say where did you get your
information from? On the sixty four to sixty five percent
up to seventy percent. Here's an article, by the way,
from Forbes. It's entitled do Americans really want to deport
eleven million undocumented immigrants? It's by Andy Simodiac And in
this specific article, it just says, in fact, sixty two
percent of Americans are now in favor of deportations, with
some Latinos and Hispanic voters also voicing their support. And
it's the first time in modern history such a vast
deportation effort is no longer an outlying opinion. But get
a los On butt a mainstream stance in American politics.
Like I said to you before, It's why I'm going
to continuously say this, and you may get tired of
hearing it. This is not the time to step away.
This is the time to step in, to dig your
heels in and stay part of the conversation. Because here
on Political Beatdown, here on the Midas Touch Network, on
my Michael Cohen YouTube show, on may O Culp, on
all of the Midas Touch family products, there's nothing but facts.
I'm not basing it like others do by pulling it
out of my ass. This is written by Forbes. I
remember just reading it, and that's only one article. If
you search yourself, you'll see that it goes up to
like sixty eight plus percent of the country is in
favor of these mass deportations.
Speaker 1: Colin, let me give you some data to which is
the updated election results, so people actually see how close
it was. I mean, it's not like seeing these results
are going to make any of us feel any better.
But at the end of the day, it seems that
Harris will have seventy five point seven million votes or
forty eight point five percent. Trump will have seventy seven
point nine million votes or forty nine point nine percent.
Other two point six million votes or one point six percent.
So if that's the case, donald Trump wouldn't even be
clearing fifty percent. And so some of the questions are,
is you know, who are some of these voters that flipped.
And some of the voters that flipped were actually gen
Z boys and girls, young men and young women who
swill you and I were talking about several months ago
how the right wing podcast culture Gaming all of that
pushed people, you know, in a direction. Trump showing up
at the UFC fights football players doing the Trump dance thing,
you know, that has permeated culture. And to ignore that
ignores I think one of the lessons. And again, if
you look at the results pretty close, but you flip
that which went overwhelmingly for Biden, you have a lot
of votes there. You have, of course the flip in
the Latino votes as well, almost a complete opposite shift
in Latino men, this time favoring Donald Trump over Vice
President Kamala Harrison. Look also in places like Scranton and
similar cities across the country, Donald Trump was picking up
these union worker votes who were voting, you know, against
their jobs or their unions. But he was saying to them,
I'm going to save you all these promises, I'm going
to protect you, I'm going to save you. I'm the
only one who can do it. So it's not without
irony when I look at a Teamsters post like this
one where they're talking about how the Costco fleet drivers
represented by Teamsters Local one seventy four, we've ratified a
short term collective bargaining agreement set to expire on January
thirty first, twenty twenty five, the same date as the
Costco National Master Agreement, which protects over eighteen thousand Costco
Teamsters nationwide. Well, you know, it's not without irony that
you look at that, because what do you think is
going to happen when the National Labor Relations Board, the
NLRB is all full of the Trumpers who are pro management,
where you can't express your collectively bargained for rights. They
don't believe in collective bargaining, you know at all. In
the Trump administration, it's all gonna be anti labor people.
Whereas President Biden worked to negotiate these types of master deals,
that's not gonna happen under the Trump administration. You know,
at what point, though, Cohen? I mean, I give you
another example. Donald Trump's appointed Mike Huckabee to be his
ambassador to Israel. Huckabee says he doesn't think the West
Bank should even exist. He goes, it's not a thing.
Israel basically should you know, take it all over themselves.
We've seen from kind of senior Israeli people attached to
net and Yahoo just in the past twenty four forty
eight hours then basically insinuating that West Bank and other
territories controlled by Palestinians need to be annexed right away,
you know. And then I see these letters from you know,
Arab American groups in Dearborn Michigan who voted for Donald
Trump and in the aggregate helped tip the scales, as
they acknowledge in this letter saying all right, Donald, now
it's time for you to call for the ceasefire. Well,
not only is Donald not calling for a ceasefire. He
brought in Huckabee, he brought in Rubio, who believed there
shouldn't be a ceasefire at all. So just regardless of
what your views are on the situation, we should be
clear eyed that on the one hand, Kamala Harris and
Biden world, he's pushing for a ceasefire and you can
make a lot of criticisms and have a lot of
strong feelings. But on the one hand, they were doing that,
and all I saw were the protests at Kamala rallies
and Biden events and events where Democrat speakers. I don't
see any of these protests happening at the Trump events
when Donald Trump just here, do we have this video
of Huckabe, like, just so you see the receipts. Huckabee's
now the ambassador to Israel. Huckabee says, this your playlis Club.
Speaker 10: Well, my feeling personally, and I'm speaking only as a person,
I think Israel would only be acting on the property
it already owns.
Speaker 2: I think Israel.
Speaker 10: Has titled e did Judea and Samaria. There are certain
words I refuse to use. There is no such thing
as a West Bank, It's Shudee and Samaria. There's no
such thing as a settlement, their communities, their neighborhoods, their cities.
There's no such thing as an occupation that they get
out of their minds that people are living in lean
to's tents, sleeping in cars circled around a tree, living
in very well designed and beautiful cities and communities can't
wait to get back. I'm going to take an extra hat.
I'm going to get it to President elect Trump, build
Israel great again. Who knows, we may see him wear
this out there in one of his rallies somewhere. No,
can't promise that. I can only promise he will get
a copy of the hat.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, And so again Cohen, as we
close out this episode, I think it's important to note
though also why, and again it is a little bit
you know, self whatever that I'm saying this self serving,
that I'm saying this, you know about our network, But
you know, I guarantee you that if this was Biden,
because I know what happens, if these incredible lies are
already occurring, that would get wall to wall coverage. All
I'm seeing I don't even watch corporate media, but when
people forward me stuff, is this like bizarro North Korea propaganda.
Elon Musk showed up at mar A Lago wearing a
dark Maga shirt and it was wild, and then he
was hanging out with Trump's daughter and they were laughing,
and it's like, Okay, can you please stick to the
freaking issues? Here are the things. Call them out because
already there's been two not like minor lies by Trump,
major major lies. And we've covered him here on the show,
Cohen two finger salute and close us.
Speaker 2: Out, you know, before I give you the two fingers salute,
because believe it or not, I'm still thinking about who
actually deserves it. But Axios also put out an article
where it turns around says sixty eight percent of Americans
said that illegal immigration causes major problems in communities, while
only twenty seven percent said the same about legal immigrants.
And so on, these these polls, these stories that they're
all over the place, my point being, it doesn't really matter,
all right. This was the message that just kept going
on and on in on and getting regurgitated over and over.
And that's the mistake that Democrats made. They never countered
properly with having all of the all of their surrogates
out there on the same exact message. And that, of
course is my opinion, what ultimately gave Donald Trump the victory.
And all of these elections are always extremely close. Our
country is relatively plus or minus one percent for the victor.
I mean, it's just how it's been for the last
six elections. The two fingers. Salute really goes to anybody
that didn't vote. If you didn't vote, you don't have
a right to complain. You don't have a right to
even make a statement, in my opinion as to where
the country's at, what's going to be happening, Who's going
to be the leader of this country. It is imperative
that everybody votes. We had less of a turnout now
than the last election. And you say to yourself, why
why when the conversation was so significant about where this
future of our country could could And I want to
be careful when I say that it could go, because
one thing that we know is that Donald says a
lot of things, a lot of it maybe comes true,
maybe doesn't become a reality, So we don't know. But
what we do know is that these comments were made
by him and his surrogates. And again to those people
who didn't vote, seriously, fuck you. I'm so tired of
hearing people complain about what's going on in the country.
And the simplest, the easiest thing that an American can
do is you pick up you go to vote dot org.
Your type thing. You say, I'm not gonna be able
to make it on that day, Mail me a fucking ballot,
Nail me a ballot. You fill the goddamn thing. And
it's ten twelve questions that you have to fill in
the little tiny black space in terms of whether you're
going for Trump, you're going for Harris, you're going for other.
For God's sakes, that's all you needed to do. And
that was too much. And if you don't do that,
you go over to the over to the place there
e it's carrying the the you know, the ballad booth,
and then you just do it. Holding takes ten fifteen minutes.
How about all the people I deplored them that stood
on those lines for hours to make their voices heard,
to exercise their constitutional right. The most important thing that
makes America the beacon on the hill of democracy is
our right to pick and choose our leaders. We right
now as a country have chosen Donald Trump, whether you
like them or you don't. So you know what next
time vote If that's not who you want next time,
get out there and vote. Well, there you have it.
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