WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.560 --> 00:00:04.120 All right, what is going on a drive time on 2 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:05.440 a Friday afternoon. 3 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:06.519 We're a little late today. 4 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:09.119 It's about nineteen minutes past the hour. 5 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:10.800 Of two o'clock. 6 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:14.240 Man, it is a chamber of commerce Utah day. Outside 7 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:17.600 it's about seventy five degrees and clear and the sun 8 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:20.839 is shining. Have great weather this weekend. Excited for that. 9 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:24.359 Happy Friday to you. And as it is every single day, 10 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:26.320 it's gonna have you long for the ride's bench check 11 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:28.679 hits behind the mic. That young man is Porter Larsen 12 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:31.079 behind the glass today and we are, yep, you know 13 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:34.600 what I'm gonna say. We are absolutely gampacked on a 14 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:37.079 Friday afternoon to get you ready for a big sports 15 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:41.960 weekend ahead. The weekend in pro football, well technically started 16 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:44.320 last night, all. 17 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:45.320 Right, I'll admit it. 18 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:49.719 Pro Rogan looked pretty good, Aaron Rodgers looked pretty good. 19 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:54.960 My New York Jets absolutely smoked the enemies from up north, 20 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:57.359 the New England Patriots, twenty four to three at Jet 21 00:00:57.399 --> 00:00:58.200 Life Stadium. 22 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:00.280 And Aaron Rodgers looked good. 23 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:00.880 Man, he just did. 24 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:02.000 There's no other way around it. 25 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:03.840 And as a Jet fan, you kind of love to 26 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:06.359 see it, and you hope that it lasts, so the 27 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:10.359 Jets handle the Patriots. Unfortunately, most of the news right 28 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:13.200 now concerning the pro football cycle coming up for Week 29 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:17.120 three in the NFL are injuries. We'll keep you up 30 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:20.400 to date throughout the course of the show today as 31 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:22.519 far as any of the breaking news that comes down, 32 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:26.200 But there are a ton of injuries in the NFL, 33 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.439 more than we typically see. It feels very Dare I 34 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:33.840 say load management ish as they do in pro basketball? 35 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:34.640 I hope I'm wrong. 36 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.439 But Week three the NFL gets rolling last night and 37 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.400 a bunch of great games. Obviously a lot of attention 38 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:43.599 around here, a lot of attention on this show. For 39 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:46.920 the first time at the University of Utah will play 40 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.040 as a charter member up well, not charter, but a 41 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:51.280 member of the Big Twelve. They travel the Still Water 42 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:55.200 to take on Okay stay tomorrow two o'clock Mountain Time. 43 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:58.920 Our pregame covers with Porter Larsen and Jordan win live 44 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:02.000 at Bout Time pub Ordan Landings will begin at ten o'clock. 45 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:04.640 So go grab some brunch, grab some food, get ready 46 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.200 for the Utah game. Then after the youths are done, 47 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:10.159 it's BYU's turn. They take on k State Rayl Salt 48 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:13.280 Lake back in action tomorrow seven thirty America first Field 49 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:17.960 and Sandy taking on the Portland Timbers. Portland got the 50 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:20.240 best of RSL back in July. Three to no was 51 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:24.199 the final score. Butt RSL looking to continue their climb 52 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:27.400 up the Western Conference, where currently they are in second place. 53 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.039 The Utah Hockey Club makes their way to Saint Louis 54 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:32.400 to take on the Blues. Then they're going to host 55 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.960 the Kings in preseason action. Few preseason games prior to 56 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:39.039 the October eighth opener when the Chicago black the black 57 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:43.159 Hawks are in town. So pro hockey is a reality show. 58 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:46.439 Hey o, Toddy made history last night. My goodness, what 59 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:48.520 a year he has had. What a night he had 60 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:51.360 last night. So a ton to do on a Friday afternoon. 61 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:54.520 We'll start things off with Pablo mas Joentni for some RSL. 62 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:57.439 Andy Larson makes his tround for a return to the program. 63 00:02:57.520 --> 00:02:59.360 I haven't caught up with Andy for quite some time. 64 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:02.759 If you miss Shan's conversation with Cameron Rising, we'll bring 65 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:05.400 that back to you. In preparation for the Utah game tomorrow. 66 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:08.400 Chris Comraddi from the Athletic wrote a great piece on 67 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:12.400 Cam this week. Former Robert Johnson stops by, So we 68 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:14.400 have a lot to do on a Friday. Pablo mash Errounni, 69 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:18.280 Andy Larson, Cam Rising, Chris Comaraddi, Robert Johnson, be Spence check. 70 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:19.919 It's all of you, the great listeners, and that guy 71 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:24.280 Porter Larson on a Friday afternoon. How's your Friday pale? 72 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:25.120 Ready for the weekend? 73 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.360 I am, I am. Friday's gone. Well, it is beautiful outside? 74 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.680 Is that Chamber of Commerce day? 75 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:31.000 Is that? 76 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:32.599 Is that what you're getting at? 77 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:35.840 Yeah, it's like a perfect Salt Lake City day. Okay, 78 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:38.080 that's what that means. It's like seventy five and so sunny. 79 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:41.520 I mean, this is why people pay a ton of 80 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:45.560 taxes and deal with wokeness to live in California. 81 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:47.520 Okay, it is a beautiful day. 82 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:48.840 It is a beautiful day outside. 83 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:51.080 They are woke in California, right? Is that the update? 84 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:52.400 I think? 85 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:52.520 So? 86 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:53.759 I think there, Thank you for that. 87 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:55.080 If you want to, if you want to get into 88 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:59.080 defining stuff today, can we can go there? 89 00:03:59.080 --> 00:03:59.159 Now? 90 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.800 They have weather like every day and we don't. So 91 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:03.400 I like to enjoy it when we have it. 92 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:07.800 I and we're of course discussing. This is going to 93 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:12.599 still Water this weekend, not the coast of California. It'll 94 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:15.000 be an adjustment for some Pac twelve fans that are 95 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:17.399 making their first road trip to the Big twelve. But 96 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:21.079 I am very much looking forward to that on the 97 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:23.600 football side of things, because I think that'll be a 98 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:26.639 really fun environment in still Water. And uh yeah, we'll 99 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:29.319 we'll be covering it live and looking forward to some 100 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:32.800 soccer this weekend as well. So good Friday show to come. 101 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.319 We have Misbehave on the clock today, so let's jump 102 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:38.839 into it before we catch up with Pablo today courtousy 103 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:42.639 of our friends at Standard Restaurant Supply. 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Standard Restaurant Supply 115 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:18.040 thirty five hundred Southwest Temple, So. 116 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:19.439 Utah heads to still Water. 117 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:22.040 Well, they're already there, but the rest of you nation 118 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:26.279 will converge upon Boone Picken Stadium. Very curious to see 119 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:28.160 how many youth fans make the trip. We've talked a 120 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.439 lot about this throughout the course of the off season. 121 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:33.319 When the Big twelve became the reality and the PAC 122 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:35.519 twelve was left in the rear view mirror. I think 123 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:37.360 it's safe to say, at least I can only speak 124 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:41.800 for myself, excuse me, is that in the PAC twelve footprint, 125 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:46.680 it seemed like Ute fans traveled really well as the 126 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:50.000 experience went on. I think early on, you know, in 127 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.279 the PAC twelve, people try to kind of get a 128 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:54.879 feel for what it's all about. But as Utah started 129 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:56.879 to find their footing in the PAC twelve, when they 130 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:00.120 started to compete and then even win conference championships, go 131 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.800 to Rose Bulls and such, the Ute fan footprint spread 132 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:06.279 out pretty wide around here, at least around these parts, 133 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:08.120 and in the PAC twelve foot print I'm curious to 134 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:10.920 see what it looks like tomorrow and stillwater. How many 135 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:13.839 people are actually making that trip. It's not a destination city. 136 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.639 It's not an easy place to get to. It is 137 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.120 more of a land figured out, go to the game 138 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:20.920 and then get out of Dodge, as opposed to some 139 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:22.759 of the other cities in the PAC twelve where a 140 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:25.240 lot of Youte fans who I know would go to 141 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:27.199 watch the game then say for another three or four 142 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.360 days because there are destination places. That's not the deal 143 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:33.120 in the new conference. We've talked about ad nauseum. So 144 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:34.680 how many fans are going to be there at boone 145 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:37.600 Picken Stadium. Interesting thing for me to watch now, Just 146 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:40.399 so you know, the line has moved back towards Utah. 147 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:44.079 So we talked about this yesterday because two nights ago, 148 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:49.120 on Wednesday night, it definitely was odd to see that 149 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:53.920 line go from Utah minus two to Oka se minus 150 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:56.639 two and e excuse me, yeah, Okay State, not Okay 151 00:06:56.680 --> 00:06:59.319 see Okay State minus two and a half. That line 152 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:01.279 moved more and a half points in the matter of 153 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:03.639 about two and a half hours. And that doesn't mean nothing, 154 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:06.519 but the fact that it's moved back towards the University 155 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:10.240 of Utah probably should alleviate the fears, at least as 156 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:12.519 of now, and it's the one thing that's on everybody's 157 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:14.879 mind right now. Is at a golf tournament earlier today 158 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:18.600 with small college friends, and same question was asked, is 159 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:20.800 camp playing? What's the deal? What's the deal? You know? 160 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:23.800 We've been follow online, what's going on? New cycle? It's 161 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:27.040 hard to ascertain anything, you know other than what's been reported. 162 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:29.480 And what I can tell you is what I've been told, 163 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:32.199 and what I feel like everybody around here has been 164 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:35.240 told is simply that Cam is playing, and we don't 165 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:37.639 know what the deal is until he steps under center. 166 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:41.600 I would be shocked. If you know Utah opening kick, 167 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:44.120 what have you? First possession? For the utes the offense 168 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.680 rolls out onto the field, I'd be stunned if number 169 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:49.600 seven wasn't running out there with him. Now, if he doesn't, 170 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:51.879 we have to have a conversation about what that means, 171 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:57.079 because it's probably not related to a lacerated hand. It's 172 00:07:57.079 --> 00:07:59.560 probably not related to a cut on his throwing hand 173 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.439 or just some uncomfortable things going on with his finger. 174 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:05.560 His finger would have healed by now. An a laceration 175 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:07.920 would have been at least healed enough for him to 176 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:09.079 be able to go out and give it a go. 177 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.199 If he's not playing tomorrow it's not because of the hand, 178 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:14.279 then that's when the news gets a little bit tenuous. 179 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:17.920 But we can't operate off hypotheticals. We can only talk 180 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:20.399 about what we know as far as what's in front 181 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.360 of us. And my guess is Cam is going to play. 182 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:22.680 Now. 183 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.639 We'll give you our pick before we say gag night 184 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:27.519 at six, as we do every Friday, We'll give you 185 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:29.199 a six pack of picks. You do with it what 186 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:31.720 you would like. As I say every day, do not 187 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:34.000 gamble on sports. You work too hard for your money. 188 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:36.360 Keep it in your pocket, keep it in your bank account. 189 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:40.200 I am very confident that if Cam Rising is under center, 190 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:42.840 Utah wins and the covers and I'm not even and 191 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:44.440 they cover it, I'm not even sure it's going to 192 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:47.960 be all that uncomfortable. Okay, State third worst in the 193 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.919 country at giving up chunk plays. Okay, twenty plays allowed 194 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:55.559 of twenty five yards or more, and Utah has the 195 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:59.240 ability to create a bunch of chunk plays that Cam's 196 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:03.159 under center. If Isaac's under center, it's different Oklahoma State. 197 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.960 So far, offensively, they've been balanced because ultimately they've had 198 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.360 to be teams are stacking the box to stop Olli 199 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:12.639 Gordon and Bowman. Their quarterback has been around for as 200 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:14.919 long as Cameron has been. They were both in the 201 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:19.480 class of twenty eighteen. Highest ranked quarterback in their class 202 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:22.279 was Trevor Lawrence. These two have been around for a 203 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.159 long long time. I'm not saying this is going to 204 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:27.399 be easy. I'm saying my confidence level in Utah to 205 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:29.720 win this game if Cam's under center is very high. 206 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:32.200 We'll give you a specific pick later on in the show. 207 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:36.200 What does the conversation sound like next week if Utah 208 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:38.879 comes home with that dub Well, I think it sounds 209 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:42.000 like Utah has put themselves in the driver's seat to 210 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:45.120 at least compete to win this conference. I'm not gonna 211 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.000 say they're gonna win the conference after four weeks. This 212 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:51.360 is probably, as of now, the hardest game on the 213 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:52.159 schedule by far. 214 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:53.440 You guys probably know it. 215 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:56.120 Utah has been a little bit fortunate this year with 216 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:59.639 some of the scheduling stuff they avoid k State Okay 217 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:02.200 State has to go on the road to play Kansas State, 218 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:05.600 and there're gonna be some tricky games. Excuse me, They're 219 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.000 gonna be some tricky games, for sure. This is on 220 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:11.919 paper as of now. The biggest test that Youthes have 221 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:14.159 to pass in order to have a road ahead of 222 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.759 them that should they handle their business, they should be 223 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:18.399 right in the mix of this thing at the end. 224 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:21.200 To win the conference, go to the conference championship and 225 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:23.799 therefore go to the CFP. So that to me is 226 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:27.080 what the conversation will sound like next week. If Utah 227 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:29.200 is able to get to win real quick. What will 228 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:32.480 the conversation sound like if BYU is able to beat 229 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:36.360 K State on Saturday night? It's a big night Saturday 230 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:40.639 Night in Provo. We got a whiteout. We got a 231 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:44.320 white out unlike other games at Lavelle Edwards Stadium. It's 232 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:47.480 actually gonna be a wide out. They're giving away alternate 233 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:50.720 cougar tails. You can get a nice vanilla frosted cougartail 234 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:54.519 as opposed to the typical maple frosted cougartail. A white 235 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:57.440 out and an alternate cougar tail. Porter Saturday night in 236 00:10:57.519 --> 00:10:58.519 Provo is gonna get weird. 237 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:05.039 Let's be clear, I am quite excited about the vanilla 238 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.559 it sounds much more appetizing on the cougartail specifically than 239 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:10.000 the maple. 240 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:13.480 Just just somebody needs to get a hold of whoever's 241 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:15.559 in charge of game promotions and just be like, let's 242 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:17.679 not do the white out anymore, Like, let's just not 243 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:20.679 do it other than we'd usually do it anyway. 244 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:22.600 I don't think they need to lean into. 245 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:24.039 It, you know what I mean? 246 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:26.120 Yeah, I mean, I guess they don't have the black 247 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.159 uniforms okay. 248 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:32.440 Anyway, So it's a big night, big Saturday night in Provo. 249 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:37.000 BYU is a touchdown underdog seven points of the line 250 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:40.200 as of now. The conversation for BYU next week, if 251 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:41.919 they get this win, will sound like, hey, we're a 252 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:43.879 top twenty five team. They're probably gonna move into the 253 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:47.240 top twenty five and potentially, depending on results, they'll be 254 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:51.279 one of maybe three or four, depending on results, maybe 255 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:53.960 four or five, but they'll be maybe four or five 256 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.720 undefeated Big twelve champion you know Big twelve teams left 257 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:59.279 that could be considered Big twelve championship contenders. 258 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:00.799 The hard part for. 259 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:03.200 BYU is, even if they get this win, it's not 260 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:05.080 going to sound the same way it will for Utah. 261 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:08.159 Because BYU schedule is a bear. 262 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:10.960 You know, it's k State, then it's at Baylor, it's 263 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:14.200 home against Arizona. They get Okay State, they're at UCF, 264 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:17.759 They're at Utah, They're home against Kansas, They're at Arizona State. Like, 265 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:21.639 even if BYU gets this win, if Utah gets the win, 266 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:23.559 I do think people are gonna be talking about a 267 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:26.480 path for the conference championship. If BYU gets the win, 268 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.039 I think people will be talking about a team it's 269 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:32.480 really overachieved, that's down the top twenty five and has 270 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.519 a chance to do something nobody thought they would do. 271 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:36.960 At three and oh, they're halfway to Bowl eligibility. I 272 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:38.919 picked them to win six games. If they win on 273 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:42.399 Saturday night with an alternate cougartail during a wide out, 274 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:46.159 we'll have to change the conversation we have about BYU. 275 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:49.440 All right, back to college football coming up, coming up 276 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:51.399 in a bit, But a big game for RSL as 277 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:53.679 Portland is in town after a nice one on Wednesday. 278 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:56.679 They're head coach Pablo Mashchuretti start things off. Starts things 279 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.399 off on a Friday afternoon, So keep it right here. 280 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:03.840 He missed Cam Rising earlier today. He and Sean chopped 281 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:05.840 it up for a little bit. The conversation with Cam 282 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:07.200 the Cam Rising Reports. 283 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:09.159 We'll bring that back around. 284 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:10.679 Because there's a lot of intrigue on whether or not 285 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:12.360 Cam's going to play Tomorrow'll leave it up to you. 286 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:14.720 You can listen to the interview and then see what 287 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:18.200 you think. Chris Camarondie from the Athletic Robert Johnson former 288 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:20.639 YOUT so plenty of college football yet to come with 289 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:23.879 a big match coming up tomorrow here in the market, 290 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:27.200 Portland is in town to take on URSLF. Our next 291 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:30.440 guest is the head coach of Rayal sal Lake. It's 292 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:32.120 been a minute since we caught up with a great 293 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.919 Pablo Mas joinning. Pablo, Happy Friday, brother, how we doing? 294 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:37.879 Happy Friday? Sprint's doing well? About you? 295 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:39.039 All good here? 296 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.600 All good here, beautiful day and vibes are good right 297 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:43.720 now as you guys bounce back to get that win 298 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:47.399 on Wednesday. What did you like most, Pablo about the 299 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:50.840 way you guys were able to respond after losing the 300 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:52.720 match to Houston last weekend. 301 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:54.440 Yeah. 302 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:57.879 No, I think it was a fantastic performance. More so 303 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:02.159 from the mentality perspective. I think with all this change 304 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:05.879 and a couple you know, uh, factors that were beyond 305 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:06.440 our control. 306 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:07.639 There's there's, there's. 307 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:10.559 Been this, and the way the schedule has been where 308 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:12.519 we've only had a few games in the last couple 309 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:17.200 of months. You know, I think we've lost our way 310 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:19.840 a little bit from a mindset perspective, And I think 311 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:22.840 everything starts and ends with the way you approach the 312 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.720 game as an individual and how that permes. 313 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:27.200 Into the collective. 314 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:29.840 And I think the guys that that that played on 315 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:33.360 Wednesday did a great job of pressing the right way, 316 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:36.559 attacking the right way, but more importantly, playing as a 317 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:38.960 team and and doing it for one another. And I 318 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.759 think that's what kind of evaded us against Houston and 319 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:44.399 against San Jose, which was another game where I felt 320 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:47.080 like we weren't playing for the group. So, you know, 321 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.840 I think it's, uh, it's it's important to understand that, 322 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:51.879 and more so for the for the players that are 323 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:54.000 coming in from other countries and joining the group this 324 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.519 late in the season. It's it's it's got to be 325 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:59.000 clear to them what we represent and what we stand for. 326 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:03.679 Above the tactics, above the technique, above individual performance on 327 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:06.159 game day is who are we as a group and 328 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.159 what I'm grateful for is that type of performance with 329 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:14.240 that result hopefully cements that that mantra that we're doing 330 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:14.799 this for the team. 331 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:16.600 You know what, I was going to ask you a 332 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.559 question about Houston, but it's Friday, it's seventy five degrees, 333 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:21.120 and I don't want him, so I'm not gonna We're 334 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:24.000 gonna move on from it. Okay, But here's I want 335 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:26.399 to ask you a couple of things about the Dallas match. 336 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:30.039 And I've talked to you before about the process you 337 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.320 have in place for penalty kicks and who steps up 338 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:36.159 and why and all that stuff. And I suppose if 339 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:39.000 chi Cho's out there, it's chie Jo and maybe some 340 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.639 other options as well. And we know that Vera's got 341 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:43.759 a canon. I'm not saying he should not have been 342 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:46.039 the guy. I'll just speak for myself. I was a 343 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:49.200 little bit surprised, So take us through the thought process 344 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:52.240 or just the mindset, whatever unfolded. It allowed Vera to 345 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.679 step up to the spot, and obviously he converted. 346 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:57.960 Yeah. No, I think you know, over the last year 347 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:01.320 and a half, you know, been able to to watch 348 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:04.480 Vera in these moments. And the one thing I think 349 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:07.159 is really important Spence and I think you have nail 350 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:08.840 on the head if Chiechjo's out there. This is not 351 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:11.799 this is not even a conversation. But it was one 352 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:14.279 of the few times where we had a penalty kick 353 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:18.360 and and Chicho wasn't on the field. And and so 354 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:20.840 for me, the one thing I know that I'm going 355 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.000 to get from Vera when you go to a free 356 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.759 kick or a penalty kick in this case, is that 357 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.960 there is zero doubt in his mind. In other words, 358 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.679 he's not trying to see where the goalie's going to lean. 359 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:35.759 He's not he's not overthinking it, where I think an 360 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:38.320 attacking player might be trying to play a little bit 361 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:41.519 of cat mouse, a little bit like Chiecho does. And 362 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:44.600 I think when you as a coach, when you know 363 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:47.320 what you're going to get, regardless of the end result, 364 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:50.399 at least you know that he went in there into 365 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:54.240 that situation full of confidence and belief. And and again, 366 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:55.919 if there's one guy on our team that I wouldn't 367 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:57.919 want to stand in front of twelve yards out, it's 368 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:03.639 it's Brian Vera, and so again, a fantastic fish. But 369 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:06.039 but yeah, so and again it's it's not that it's 370 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:10.079 not I mean, obviously, in today's game, it's obviously the 371 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:13.720 nine that takes it, right, But you know, even growing 372 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:16.680 up and playing myself, there there was times when center 373 00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:21.160 backs took it because again there's not this weight of expectation. 374 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:22.920 They just go up and knock the ball in the corner. 375 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:26.440 So but hopefully Chijo will be on the field for 376 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:27.319 the next one for sure. 377 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:32.799 All Right, you often talk about life and soccer and 378 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:36.119 sport defined by individual moments. What did you make of 379 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:39.759 that moment when Anderson Julio and you know, it's funny, Pablo. 380 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:43.359 I watched the replay and he didn't even look up. 381 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:46.200 I mean, he must have. He must have been seeing 382 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:49.440 tendencies from the keeper prior to that opportunity, because he 383 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:52.599 just got the ball and then had a nice little 384 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.079 touch and turned around and and right when he hit it. 385 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:55.559 But it's funny. 386 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:58.440 My first response was he underhit it, like I didn't 387 00:17:58.440 --> 00:17:59.440 think he got enough of it. 388 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:02.680 But right, and maybe you can help me understand. 389 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:06.039 Is that a thing that players do they notice maybe 390 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:08.839 five or ten minutes prior to oh wait, he is 391 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:11.480 creeping up if I get it, because he didn't look up, 392 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:13.720 he didn't turn around, did he just one touched and 393 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:15.279 he struck it. Would you make in that moment? 394 00:18:16.359 --> 00:18:19.519 No, I think again, I think that's individual brilliance. You know, 395 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.960 over the last two years, we've had you know, Chicho 396 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:25.960 do it this year, Pablo just do it last year 397 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:29.039 and now and though and I think it's a multiple 398 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:32.039 of things. One, it's obviously individual brilliance to be aware 399 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.640 that that is happening, which is a great thing because 400 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:37.880 again in soccer, it's about understanding where everyone is at 401 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:40.880 all times and then making the best decision available to you. 402 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:44.480 So his ability to understand that the goalkeeper is playing off. 403 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:45.319 His line. 404 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:50.119 Is awesome on Ada's part. And then the execution, which 405 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:53.400 is very difficult from that distance to your point, how 406 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:57.920 do you gauge a sixty yard ball? And the funny 407 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:00.000 thing is that in training, not one training goes by 408 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:04.119 where these guys, especially attacking players, aren't picking out a 409 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:05.960 goal out in the distance and they're like, okay, one 410 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:08.079 hop into that goal, you know. So like, I don't 411 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:11.119 know if that's subconstantly training it, but it's definitely something 412 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:14.640 that we don't go over. That's a low quality chance. 413 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:17.240 So we don't even talk about that. But I think 414 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:19.519 The reason why you're seeing this more and more all 415 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.839 over the world is twofold one teams want to press 416 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.559 higher up the field, which means the most goalies are 417 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:28.960 playing like a sweeper keeper, right, so they're protecting the 418 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:31.599 space behind, and that's kind of what happened in that 419 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:35.400 particular play. And the other part is is a lot 420 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:38.480 of teams are using goalkeepers and builds, so now they're 421 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:41.279 you know, playing twenty five yards out from goals, so 422 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.119 if you steal a ball, these moments are more readily 423 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:46.440 available than they were back when I was playing in 424 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:48.480 you know, nineties and eighties and these kind of things 425 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:51.400 were goalkeepers were just goalkeepers. So the more that they're 426 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:54.559 becoming more field players and have more responsibilities with the 427 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:57.359 ball and defending the line, that is extremely high. I 428 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:00.440 think these moments will continue to present themselves, all right. 429 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:03.000 So we're learning about some of these new players, and 430 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:05.240 I do have a question in a moment about the 431 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:08.559 macro situation of getting them accustomed to what you want 432 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:12.000 them to do. But that run up the right side 433 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:15.680 from Dominic mark Zuk and the cross and Anderson Julio, 434 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:16.960 that was art man. 435 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:19.039 That was brilliant start to finish. 436 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:22.160 I mean the problem is the highlights later on, Like 437 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:25.359 the highlight shows just showed the cross, but the turn 438 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:28.319 the run. I mean, that was one of the first 439 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:30.240 times that I mean, I haven't seen him play much, 440 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.559 but that should indicate to RSL fans that there's some 441 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:36.079 quality with this young kid. What do you so? Two 442 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:38.720 part question, What did you make of that snapshot moment? 443 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:40.720 And what can you share with us about how he's 444 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:42.200 looked from a macro standpoint? 445 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:46.519 Yeah, so I would even rewhinded a little further because 446 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:49.079 it was actually a great team goal where Justin Glad 447 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:51.880 plays it out to Phil Quinton, he gets pressured and 448 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:56.559 he zips the ball out to Dom and Dom just 449 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:59.240 an individual play that is just awesome. And these kind 450 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:02.000 of moments are exactly what we saw in the video 451 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:04.640 when we were scouting him from Poland, is his ability 452 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:07.720 to make good decisions on the endline and then have 453 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:11.039 the quality to pick out the best option with the 454 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:13.079 right way to pass. And that's exactly what he did 455 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:15.319 on that goal. So I think, and I don't know 456 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:17.440 if you saw his reaction to it, it was like, 457 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:20.359 thank you for giving me the opportunity to do this. 458 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:23.960 You know, he was so excited, obviously for the team 459 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:26.279 but himself because I think some of the there's a 460 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:28.160 lot of doubt when you're going from league to league 461 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:29.799 and you're a really young player and you don't have 462 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:32.440 a lot of experience. So it couldn't have come at 463 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:35.319 a better time for for Dom and his integration to 464 00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:37.880 the group, and and the other thing it's really important 465 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:41.039 for for our forwards, you know, and and and chi 466 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:44.839 Cho to understand is that he has now shown his 467 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:48.440 quality to find the nine in the box. And so 468 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:50.720 once you have that, now the idea is, can we 469 00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:54.400 get our nines playing more central, more more close around 470 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:57.039 the goal because now we have a player that can 471 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:00.079 finds you in these areas. And then you know, I 472 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:04.200 think for us, you know, after Andre's left, it's really 473 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:06.680 about who, you know, how long is it going to 474 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:12.359 take for these younger players to accomate newer players. And 475 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:16.039 you know, we played lockey out there. He did a 476 00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:17.720 really good job, but he likes to come inside on 477 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:19.920 his left foot. And now we saw in this game 478 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:22.400 that Dom did a really good job. And I'll also 479 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:25.839 say the work that he did defensively was awesome, really 480 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:29.079 high level stuff that usually takes a lot of time, 481 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:30.960 but he did a really good job of making it 482 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:35.880 difficult for that whole right side. So I feel like 483 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:39.400 it's these kind of moments that, you know, bring a 484 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:42.519 lot of belief into the individual, and I think given 485 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:45.319 his performance, brings a lot of belief to the group. 486 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:49.359 All Right, help me understand what happened with the HAYESUSA 487 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:53.240 free kick, because I still am confused. Now. It was 488 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.960 a hell of a strike actually by him, but I 489 00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:59.319 don't know, Like if I was playing FIFA, I would 490 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:02.279 have thrown my control roller instead. You're cheating, I felt. 491 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:05.160 I felt like that was my reaction. I'm like, you're cheating, 492 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:07.799 I'm resetting the xbox. What happened there? 493 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:10.920 Yeah, So it was. 494 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:14.000 It was strange, and again it's it's so interesting. These 495 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:15.960 are all things that we talk about in the preseason, 496 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:18.359 that we hit on, and if you don't get hurt 497 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:21.799 by it somewhere along the somewhere along the regular season, 498 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:23.839 then you don't really bring it up because it's almost 499 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.799 like a known action. Right, So when when Krootsy commits 500 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:29.839 the foul, the first thing you do when it's around 501 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:33.119 the goal is the person that foul the player is 502 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:35.200 stands in front of the ball and he waits for 503 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:40.160 the referee to say back up. So one, when you 504 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:42.279 do that, you you buy time for the rest of 505 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:44.039 the group to set up behind it, whether you're going 506 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:47.039 to go with a line to defend a wide free kick, 507 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:49.079 or you're going to set up a wall, and and 508 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:51.960 so then the other part of that is Gab setting 509 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:54.240 up the setting and trying to set up a wall, 510 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:56.599 a two man wall. But there's no one in front 511 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:59.599 of the ball, and I think it's it's just a 512 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:02.160 great earning opportunity for Gab. Is like, you can't set 513 00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:04.559 anyone up or prepare to set anyone up if there's 514 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:07.960 no one there. Right, You've got to protect the goal 515 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.759 because at any point unless the referee says on the whistle, 516 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:14.960 and that usually happens when you have someone stand on 517 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:17.480 the ball and they the referee has to mark off 518 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:19.839 ten yards and so then the referee goes okay on 519 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:22.799 the whistle, and now we can start setting up and 520 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.240 all these things. So, like you said, it was a 521 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:31.039 video game moment that rarely happens, and one that is 522 00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:33.759 that will never happen again with our group. 523 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:37.559 So you reference something after the game, And I wanted 524 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:39.920 to dig into this a little bit because we've talked 525 00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:43.359 a lot, talk to Jay about this week about the 526 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.799 system that you've been wanting to implement, and you started 527 00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:49.240 to implement the system in the offseason and carried over 528 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:51.200 with some excellent results, and you were playing a lot 529 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:54.279 more in possession. And when you guys are in possession, 530 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:56.759 it feels like you're really dangerous, and sometimes when you're 531 00:24:57.079 --> 00:24:59.519 chasing it a little bit, it feels like you're very vulnerable. 532 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.759 And the message that you sent, at least via pregame 533 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:05.240 was we want to play in possession, we want to 534 00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:07.000 keep the ball, but when we lose the ball, it's 535 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.839 eleven dogs after the ball. And you looked at the 536 00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:11.920 camera and you winked a little bit, okay, and so 537 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.440 you could see, like, you know, I like your facial expression. 538 00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:18.359 You know, you could you could see what you were 539 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:20.279 saying is this is how I used to play, and 540 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:22.160 I want my players to play this way. And it's 541 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:25.240 kind of a consistent theme in our conversations is do 542 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:27.079 you guys have the force and the bite to go 543 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:28.119 win something special? 544 00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:30.079 Because you have to have force and bite to do that. 545 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:33.400 So how do you how do you kind of translate 546 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.119 that message to your players, and how do you feel 547 00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:38.839 like it's been received? You know, when you're not in possession, 548 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:40.599 do everything you can to get the ball back. 549 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:45.400 Yeah, you know. I again, I attribute a lot of 550 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.079 this to the fact that there's been so much change 551 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.000 within the group and it's gonna you know, and all 552 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:54.839 the different dynamics that come about with like the guys 553 00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:57.279 that are still here with new guys coming in, and 554 00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:01.680 it's just like it's such a turbulent time and then 555 00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:03.480 you're not getting the results, and so it's like, how 556 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.000 do we peel all this back and talk about under 557 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.279 the hood, what does it look like? Who are we like? 558 00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:13.079 What makes us go? Because again we've talked a lot 559 00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:17.640 about in possession, but for me, mentality always stems from 560 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:21.039 the way you defend. And why defending for me is 561 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:24.480 so important is because it's this most selfless act you 562 00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:27.839 can do in professional sports. Right, The selfish acts are 563 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.160 wanting to be the guy in front of the goal, Right, 564 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:34.200 that's easy, Like, that's what you know. The hard thing 565 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.599 is is a forward tracking somebody back thirty or forty yards, 566 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:40.960 a pivot chasing someone to the sideline, you know, a 567 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:43.400 tense sprinting out of the line to put pressure on 568 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:45.720 the ball. Like these things are all selfless, because at 569 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:47.599 the end of the day, the attackers just want to attack. 570 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.000 But what we've learned about our group is what got 571 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.559 us in a good run of form, was we were 572 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:57.000 very dangerous with the ball, but we were really really 573 00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:59.160 difficult to play against when we didn't have the ball 574 00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:02.079 because we were just putting pressure on the first guy, 575 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.680 pressure on the second guy, the guy that the back 576 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:06.799 line was able to step up and put real pressure. 577 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.119 And so what I've seen in the last probably you know, 578 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:11.559 two or three games, particularly the San Jose home game 579 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.880 and the Houston away game, was this like we're gonna 580 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:17.920 wait for the guys back there to win the ball 581 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:20.400 and then they can just give it to us. And 582 00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:24.039 so we're playing with like six dogs, right, And so 583 00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:26.559 it just makes sense that when you have eleven dogs 584 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.640 working for each other, and and more in particular, the 585 00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:32.400 front four working hard for the team, those guys in 586 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:34.599 the back will sell their souls to the devil to 587 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:36.400 do whatever it takes to give those guys the ball 588 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:39.480 when they see them working that hard. However, the foot 589 00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:41.359 part of that, if they don't work hard from the 590 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:42.160 defensive standpoint. 591 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:43.279 Up front, the. 592 00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:47.119 Lack of predictability breeds so much doubt within the whole 593 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:50.559 team that you end up not being good without the ball, 594 00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:52.839 and then when you get it, there's so much doubt 595 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.920 you're not good with the ball, and it becomes a cycle. 596 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.759 And so when we when we get pressure on the 597 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:02.359 ball at all times, we are present minded. This guy goes, 598 00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:04.119 this guy covers, this guy goes, this guy covers, and 599 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.599 it's like you're just playing from a place to flow. 600 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.039 When you're not getting pressure on the ball, everyone is 601 00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:10.720 guessing what the next guy is going to do because 602 00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:14.039 there's no real clear trigger to make play predictable for 603 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.480 the guys behind. And so when you have a game 604 00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.319 like we had against Dallas, where it was really front 605 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:22.000 foot defensive, you end up scoring three goals, right, And 606 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:24.519 granted there were strange goals. There are anomalies in a 607 00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:26.119 lot of ways, but that's what I feel like the 608 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.640 game gives you because you're almost it's like a self 609 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:31.519 fulfilling propsty. We're going to be on the front foot, 610 00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:33.799 we're going to be aggressive, and with that comes the 611 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:36.960 ball in the attacking half. With that comes with loose 612 00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:41.079 balls being one closer to their goal, and so that's 613 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:42.880 that's got to be who we are. So that is 614 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.119 clear to the guys that are coming into the group. 615 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.480 These are the expectations, These are the standards, regardless of 616 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.480 the positions. Where eleven dogs. When we have it, play 617 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.319 play to your quality and everyone's got different qualities. But 618 00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:57.480 when we don't have it, you're one of the dogs 619 00:28:57.480 --> 00:28:59.279 that we need to make sure we get that ball back. 620 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.000 So I'm not going to say it was the most 621 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:06.359 impressive individual moment because I thought, obviously Anderson's goal was 622 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:09.359 nuts in that run up the up the flank by 623 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.640 Mark Zuke and Lacrosse was pretty pretty brilliant. But the 624 00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:16.240 goal that Diogo had that was called back, I rewound 625 00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:18.960 that and watched it like five times, like that was 626 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:19.960 a skill check. 627 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:22.119 Now it was off size, it didn't count. 628 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:24.759 But you know, all these new players, we're all trying 629 00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:26.319 to get to know him a little bit. In that 630 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:28.480 moment right there, I think for a lot of people, 631 00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:30.920 even though it was called back, was another indicator that 632 00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:33.480 you might have something special on your hands. How's the 633 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.799 project coming along? Trying to ingratiate Diogo into what you 634 00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:37.279 want to do. 635 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.960 Yeah, No, it's he Listen. He's a fantastic player. He's 636 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:47.039 a fantastic teammate. And I think with him within our 637 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.880 with just coming to MLS in Europe, you have a 638 00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.119 more I don't want to say sophisticated, but there's a 639 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.880 lot more respect with teams, Like there's very few teams 640 00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:58.559 in Europe that high press the way we do, and 641 00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:03.720 in our league, everyone high presses, right, So in Europe 642 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.200 it's more like, oh, you have the ball, we'll drop 643 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:09.119 back by midfield and we'll find gaps. What he's brilliant 644 00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.559 at is finding the space between the lines to receive. 645 00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:14.640 And he's a technician, and I think that play that 646 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.880 you're talking about is case in point. Diego has an 647 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:22.240 eye for goal, Diego has a technique to be able 648 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.119 to execute it. I think the transition between the two 649 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:28.759 leagues is how do I create that kind of space 650 00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:31.799 for myself where in Europe it would be very available, 651 00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:34.160 where a lot of times in the MLS is helter 652 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.039 skelter in and around goal, and so in Europe you 653 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:38.920 might be able to turn in that pocket. And in 654 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.400 the MLS, for whatever reason, there's a guy that's waiting 655 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.160 to just smash you, and so you don't have as 656 00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:46.119 much space in and around goal that I feel like 657 00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:49.640 you can find at times in Europe. And so there's 658 00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:51.519 no doubt in my mind that Diego is going to 659 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:54.039 be a top player for this team. I think the 660 00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:58.240 challenge for myself and the staff is always thinking about 661 00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:02.559 how can we put our group that understands clearly what 662 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.799 we want in this moment now whilst bringing these guys 663 00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:10.119 along and in a role that that allows him to 664 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:14.519 understand the mentality the tactics so that they can fully 665 00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.960 execute their technique versus you know, square peg, round hole. 666 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:20.559 It's not it's not clicking quite yet, but that's fine. 667 00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:22.440 It's not his fault that we you know, we got 668 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:24.960 here with seven games left. That's just life. And now 669 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.599 it's our job is to try to find that that 670 00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:32.640 that that connection between he's a really special player and 671 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.680 you know, he plays really well with this kind these 672 00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.039 three guys, but struggles a little bit with this guy 673 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.000 against this type of system, and so there's still a 674 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:43.400 you know, a learning curve to go. But there is 675 00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.400 no doubt in my mind that Diego is a special 676 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.880 player and that and that will just need a little 677 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:50.759 bit of time to transition to, you know, to being 678 00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:51.279 the guy. 679 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.440 I have before you set you lose your win combined 680 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.640 with like a ridiculous amount of results that win ourselves way, 681 00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:01.119 which is awesome on Wednesday, bumps you up to second. 682 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:05.119 No rest for the weary. Portland is in town tomorrow. 683 00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.680 They're the highest scoring team in the West and second 684 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:12.400 only to Miami with sixty goals scored. So according to the numbers, 685 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.119 they score a lot of goals and they give up 686 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.680 a lot of goals. That's what's in front of me. 687 00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:18.480 So tell me about Portland, Pablo, what do you have 688 00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:19.880 to do to go get all three tomorrow night? 689 00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:21.200 Yeah? 690 00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.039 I think you said it. They're they're a team that 691 00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:27.680 attacks really well and at times they're you know, they're 692 00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.400 they're they're poorest in the back, and I think it's 693 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:32.480 really easy against this team to get caught in this 694 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:35.680 transition game, which is they lose the ball and their 695 00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.759 front four don't necessarily transition to get back behind the ball, 696 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.039 and so it's now it's our attack. It might be 697 00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:44.000 like say six guys in that transition moment against six 698 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:47.000 of their back guys. The problem is when you don't 699 00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:49.279 make good decisions in that moment and you give the 700 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.839 ball up, and now it's four versus four in the 701 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:55.920 back in our in our defensive half. Those four players 702 00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:57.720 are some of the most dynamic. 703 00:32:58.240 --> 00:32:58.599 Uh. 704 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:02.480 They're they're they're all people not only creating goal scoring 705 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.119 opportunities for the teammates, but they're all very good one 706 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.039 v one attackers. And so for us, it's it's going 707 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.359 to take a little bit of you know, sophistication. Even 708 00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:12.559 if we can go to goal, if the numbers aren't 709 00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.960 great or if the space isn't wide open, we almost 710 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:18.039 have to wait for our team to get forward and 711 00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:20.759 set up camp in their attacking half to force these 712 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.720 attack to force third attacking players to get back and defend. 713 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:27.400 It's it's almost counterintuitive as to how we want to 714 00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:30.200 how we normally play. But given that there's such a 715 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.039 unique team and they're very dangerous, we don't want this 716 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.319 to be an open game. We don't want this to 717 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:38.839 be a transition game. We want to be able to 718 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:40.880 dictate the game with the ball and be very tight 719 00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.119 and put out fires when that we have to. If 720 00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:44.880 we have to give up a foul, you know, when 721 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:46.759 we lose the ball. Then that's better, so we can 722 00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:48.759 get numbers behind the ball and let them beat us 723 00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.640 with eleven versus beat us four v four. But I 724 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.839 feel like, you know, if we have the right mindset, 725 00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:55.200 we can we can get a couple of goals, and 726 00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:59.960 if we're just defensively savvy, I feel good about our chances. 727 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:03.240 I'm considering coming out, but I need to guarantee that 728 00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:03.839 you're gonna win. 729 00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.480 If I'm going to drive out to Sandy. 730 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:07.480 Let's go, Spence. 731 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:08.119 I love it. 732 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.760 I'll put it out there, man. 733 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.000 This game, I love it all right. Always good chat 734 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:14.719 with you, man, Go get three chairing for you. 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He's got a very exciting project in 755 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.559 the works, but I have been told it's embargoed, so 756 00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:19.480 we're not allowed to talk about it. Robert Johnson, former 757 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.400 Utah safety stops by as well. If you missed Cam Rising, 758 00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:25.920 he hopped on Sean Show earlier. Of course, a lot 759 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:28.519 of conversation about whether or not Cam is going to go. 760 00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:32.280 I maintained that he will play coming up tomorrow and 761 00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:34.440 still Water, so stay tuned for all that. But joining 762 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.360 us now usually a very consistent guest throughout the course 763 00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.320 of the basketball season, but Andy Larson good enough to 764 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.360 give us some time on a Friday afternoon, Andy, Happy Friday, buddy, 765 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:43.760 how we doing. 766 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.719 I'm good man, doing well, doing well. Here's where I 767 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:48.239 want to start. 768 00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.559 It feels like our guy fulk over at the Trip 769 00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.440 has really started to kind of remake that newsroom with 770 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:58.800 the new beat writers for BYU and Utah and now 771 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.159 the Utah Hockey Club. All three have been on this 772 00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:04.079 show and will be on this show. So what's it 773 00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:05.960 been like over there as you guys are kind of 774 00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.920 trying to kind of remake some things and tell us 775 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:10.880 about these these new faces here in the market. 776 00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:14.000 Yeah, man, it's been cool. I you know, Aaron was 777 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.920 out of town earlier this week, so I kind of 778 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.639 was subbing for him in that sports editor role at 779 00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:20.960 the Trip and got a chance to like really work 780 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.000 with these new writers on all their stuff. 781 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:24.239 Right. 782 00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.559 Like I mean, Jason I think has done some really 783 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.440 incredible work on the U S feat with the Morgan 784 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.639 Scalley story earlier this week. You know, got one on 785 00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.519 ones with Kyle Whittingham and and Mike Gundy this week 786 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.159 ahead of this game and talking about their their past 787 00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.079 as coaches. You know, the two twenty year coaches left 788 00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.280 in college football playing each other this week. I think 789 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:49.039 that's an interesting angle that It's pretty remarkable that, you know, 790 00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.039 a relatively new voice in the market can can get 791 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.239 and so quickly. You know, I think Kevin's done an 792 00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.440 awesome job on the Bwayu job and just kind of 793 00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:02.199 his hustle from a reporting interview and getting and breaking 794 00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:04.960 news that no one else has in in Byu despite 795 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.079 you know, I don't know that by you is a 796 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.920 huge fan of the Soltic Tribune, and yet Kevin's breaking 797 00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:13.199 these stories and then fell you know, started Monday and 798 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.840 already has four stories out there about the Utah Hockey 799 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.360 Club and media day in training camp, and you know, 800 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.960 her writing's great, and she's so enthusiastic about hockey and 801 00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:26.280 really knows the sport growing up in New York and 802 00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.719 Boston as a as a big hockey. 803 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:29.039 Lifer, you know. 804 00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.440 So like, it's been really cool to have a full 805 00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:37.960 section of sports, you know, sports nerds in the Tribune 806 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.559 office that that allow us to do some really good reporting. 807 00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:43.880 And I let you know, everyone says this and it's cliche, 808 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.440 but I am, legit super excited about what the Tribune 809 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.559 sports department is right now and what it's going to 810 00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:49.719 be for the next few years. 811 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:54.320 So as as simply a Utah not just the jazz 812 00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:57.440 b writer data columnist from the Utah Jazz. Because we 813 00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:01.519 were talking about this earlier in the we you know obviously, 814 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.159 and I do want to talk about the Bees. You know, 815 00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:06.639 they're leaving. This is the last week of Bees baseball. 816 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.440 But we have pro hockey now. We have really grown 817 00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.719 into this. I don't even want to say underrated anymore. 818 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.599 Just this really solid college football market over the past 819 00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:21.280 decade or so, the Jazz or the Jazz RSL's RSL. 820 00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.320 And we'll see what the Millers are able to do 821 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:25.719 to bring Major League Baseball here. But how would you 822 00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.360 articulate the growth not just economically or just simply people 823 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:33.559 moving here, but simply from a sports and entertainment market 824 00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.760 that you've seen since you gotten into this business, what 825 00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:36.880 ten twelve years ago? 826 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:39.599 Yeah, look, I mean I think it's wildly different. I 827 00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:43.079 mean it's when you go, you know, out of town 828 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.920 or overseas, people know Utah because of Utah Jazz and 829 00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.320 those battles with the Chicago Bulls. But I think that's 830 00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:51.280 now expanding a little bit, you know, So it's not 831 00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.360 either just the Jazz or the Olympics. It's now you 832 00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:56.679 do have the hockey club, now you do have college football, 833 00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.599 and the use making a name in that space, you know, 834 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.639 obviously having done what they did in the past, and 835 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:05.519 I think still a player in that. I think BAU 836 00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:09.360 basketball is going to be a big player in the national. 837 00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:09.920 Scene this year. 838 00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.159 And then yeah, you mentioned kind of the possibility of 839 00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:17.280 getting a major League baseball team. It's it's more, it's 840 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:19.800 more important and more diverse than I feel like it 841 00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:23.360 has been ever and certainly you know, in my time 842 00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.920 kind of paying attention to it. So you know, it 843 00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:27.800 was kind of going through as I wrote that Bees 844 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:31.639 article you mentioned, like going through the old newspaper clips 845 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:35.440 from the you know, nineteen twenties, nineteen fifties and so on, 846 00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.960 when you know, baseball was the biggest thing, and we 847 00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.519 were just kind of talking about like how the Cincinnati 848 00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:43.880 Reds did every week. It's not that anymore. Now Utah 849 00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.639 can really like compete on its own and now it's 850 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.079 Utah stuff making a difference in other places newspapers, and 851 00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:51.039 I think that's pretty cool. 852 00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:53.159 So let's move over to the Bees. You know, we 853 00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:55.719 had Tony and Studio to try to get people out 854 00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:59.159 to the ballpark and You didn't pull punches, and that's 855 00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:01.119 what I like about you. You rarely do. You didn't 856 00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:04.440 mince words. And I talked to you when the news 857 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.280 broke that the Bees were leaving and heading south, and 858 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.159 I'll say the same thing today that I said. 859 00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:09.360 Then. 860 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:12.960 We're all going to react to this news about, you know, 861 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:16.840 the Bees moving as far as how it affects us personally. 862 00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:18.760 I live in the Capital City, so. 863 00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.639 To you, and I don't want it to move because 864 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:23.599 I like going to Bees games and it's close by. 865 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:26.760 As you point out in your piece, they'll find fans, 866 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:29.480 they're going to find an audience. It's just gonna be 867 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:32.320 a different audience, and it's just gonna be weird because 868 00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:34.760 I have, like you, so many memories of going to 869 00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:37.400 those games way back in college, taking my son and 870 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:39.719 going there with friends and dates and all the things. 871 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:43.119 Your thoughts as the Bees leave us here in the 872 00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:46.039 Capital City head south and tell our listeners kind of 873 00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:48.159 what motivated you to write what you wrote? 874 00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.599 Yeah, man, Like it's it's sad, you know, and that 875 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:53.840 doesn't mean that it's not okay. And you know that 876 00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.280 it won't be a good thing for people who live 877 00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:58.159 in the South and west corner of our Velly. But 878 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.519 like you know, baseball was on the corner of thirteen 879 00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:03.840 South and West Temple for ninety eight years. You know, 880 00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:07.800 in nineteen twenty six, Community Fields or Community Park opened 881 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:11.800 up for minor league baseball, and since then, minor league 882 00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:15.960 baseball has been played on that corner. And it's sad that, 883 00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:20.079 you know, Miller ownership is moving away from that history 884 00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:23.000 to you know, land that they own. I think they 885 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:25.519 have kind of consistently moved away from that history, whether 886 00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:28.679 by be by selling the Jazz you know, closing the 887 00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:32.880 Tuila Motorsports Park, selling the dealerships. I mean, right now, 888 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:37.000 the Miller company is largely about making real estate money 889 00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:40.559 and money in senior living houses, right Like, It's not 890 00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:43.440 a sexy business they're running right now. It's not a 891 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:47.639 passionate business. And they're running right now. It's really I 892 00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.119 think about the bottom line, and I think that is 893 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.800 reflected in their move away from again, where baseball has 894 00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.079 been played for one hundred years. I mean, doing the 895 00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:58.519 research for the story, it's kind of incredible how much 896 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.480 has happened here. I mean, like Babe Ruth played at 897 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.440 the ballpark, Willie May's played at the ballpark. The longest 898 00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:07.840 home run in sat Cast history was hit at the 899 00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.400 ballpark by Joe Adell a couple of years back, five 900 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.719 hundred and fifteen feets. I mean, the longest winning streak 901 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.880 in baseball history was set by the Trappers back in 902 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.239 the eighties when Bill Murray on the team. There's some 903 00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:21.639 really cool stuff that happened a corner and it's just 904 00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:24.960 I think it's sad, you know. I think it's sad 905 00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:27.159 that the team is moving. And that doesn't mean it's 906 00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.960 a you know, it will benefit other people, and it 907 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.800 doesn't mean that the Millers are evil, but it means 908 00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:38.960 that we are losing something significant and that I think 909 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.079 we're allowed to mourn that. I think we're allowed to 910 00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:45.519 be disappointed and sad about what we're losing, kind of 911 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:48.559 that connection to a community, connection to a history that 912 00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:52.320 we won't get back by having a new park open 913 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:52.599 up in. 914 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:56.159 Daybreak, any update, I haven't heard anything in a while. 915 00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:59.119 We had Steve starkson studio that must be a year 916 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.119 and a half ago now, but I. 917 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:02.400 Haven't heard anything in a while. 918 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:05.920 As far as traction towards getting a major League Baseball 919 00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.519 team here in our market. Is there any update in 920 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:09.800 that direction, Andy. 921 00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.360 None that I've heard, and none that's been reported in 922 00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:16.320 the last few months. I mean, they're so interested in 923 00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.639 doing so. You know, I obviously have an interest in 924 00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.639 the A's, but the biggest interest is in a Major 925 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:27.639 League Baseball deciding to expand. And their formal word on 926 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:29.679 the topic is that they are not currently. 927 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:30.159 Looking to expand. 928 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:32.760 Fair enough, fair enough, all right, let's move over here. 929 00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:36.920 Let's move over here. What sort of, if any, effect 930 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.880 do you think the potential Let's see, how do I 931 00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:47.159 say this, the potential underwhelming Jazz season ahead. Potential underwhelming 932 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:48.800 Jazz season ahead, That's how I'll put it. 933 00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:52.079 What effect, if any, do you think the potential. 934 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:56.360 Underwhelming Jazz season ahead will have on the interest with 935 00:43:56.480 --> 00:43:59.320 his local hockey club? Because, look, they're not going to 936 00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:01.440 win the Stanley Up this year. But the more and 937 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:03.639 more I kind of dig into it, read about it, 938 00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:06.239 listen to some of these previews, I think they're in 939 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:06.960 a good spot. 940 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:08.320 I think they're going to be entertaining. 941 00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:10.760 I think they're going to be fun, and they're further 942 00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:13.840 along and they're rebuild project than the Jazz are, and 943 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.239 part of me feels like they're much further along with 944 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:18.480 a much better plan in place than the Jazz are 945 00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:22.480 right now, do you think we'll see Jazz fans potentially 946 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.760 disenfranchised at the I don't know the direction or lack 947 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.000 of direction whatever you want to say. Uh, and maybe 948 00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.840 head over and find a different home with the Utah 949 00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:32.800 Hockey Club this year. 950 00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:35.599 Yeah, I mean, I think from a TV ratings point 951 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.679 of view, especially you know, I think, you know, the 952 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.920 UTA Hockey Club will sell out every game. I think 953 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:42.800 the Jazz will get close to selling out of the game, 954 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.039 but I you know, ultimately it's going to be kind 955 00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:48.800 of what gets the casual fans going, and I don't 956 00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:52.079 think the Jazz will the hockey club. Meanwhile, has you know, 957 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.599 according to Vegas about a thirty three to forty percent 958 00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:56.639 chance of making the playoffs, you know, and and you know, 959 00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:00.199 I's we ask the Vegas odds of what likely the 960 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.880 Jazz of making them playoffs. We're at the one two 961 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:08.320 five percent range, right. So Look, I think this market 962 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.559 is you know, certainly loves the Jazz and but also 963 00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:14.840 has proven time and time again that they will turn 964 00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:18.719 their eyeballs to winning franchises or competitive franchises. And it's 965 00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:22.239 I think relatively clear right now, and that at least 966 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.480 looking ahead, the hockey club is going to be better 967 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:26.400 than the Jazz are next year, and I think casual 968 00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:28.679 eyeballs will turn to that, you know, casual eyeballs will 969 00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:31.960 turn to whatever other sporting events there are maybe just 970 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:34.559 not sports at all if they're you know, the Jazz 971 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.400 aren't interesting. So look, you know, I don't expect a 972 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:39.280 ton of empty seats in the Delta Center next year 973 00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.280 at Jazz games. I think there's still like a substantial 974 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.559 season ticket base that prevents that. I think there's still 975 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:48.159 you know, a substantial number of fans that will will 976 00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:50.679 nearly fill that building kind of no matter what. But 977 00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:55.280 there's no doubt that the enthusiasm is way low for 978 00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.000 this season. I mean the lowest that I've seen it 979 00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:57.960 in all my time. 980 00:45:57.840 --> 00:45:58.280 On the beat. 981 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.599 And yeah, you know, as a result, I think it's 982 00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:03.639 going to be pretty natural that fans, especially in the 983 00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:05.920 first half of the season when college football is available, 984 00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.639 tune into that, tune into the hockey rather than tune 985 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:11.599 into what's going to be a I think a pretty 986 00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:13.039 mediocre product on the court. 987 00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:17.880 Do you have any information or knowledge of you know, 988 00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.960 it's just a tough ask, and they do it in 989 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.519 other cities, So maybe this is us just growing up. 990 00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:27.599 But you know, if you're a Jazz season ticket holder 991 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.880 and you get the email about buying season tickets for 992 00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:33.639 the Utah Hockey Club, I know several people that have 993 00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:34.639 chosen one or the other. 994 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:36.840 I know a few that are gonna do both. 995 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:41.039 But there are legitimate questions about not just is there 996 00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:43.880 enough money to go around from the consumers and the fans. 997 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:48.159 Is there enough support from corporate sponsorships? Is there enough 998 00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:52.800 money from businesses and corporations for the folks over you know, 999 00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.559 under the Smith umbrella who have been tasked with some 1000 00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.159 very audacious goals to be able to hit those goals 1001 00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.679 on the corporate spose ship side and the ticket sales 1002 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.440 side as well. Any information about how that project is 1003 00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.760 going and are they you know, are they going to 1004 00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.079 be able to pull this off with both entities to 1005 00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.400 make sure that both entities can hit their goals. 1006 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:14.719 Look, I mean, they're charging a ton of money for 1007 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:18.079 hockey tickets, right, I think so they're getting some money 1008 00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:21.280 from that, you know, in terms of corporate sponsorships, I 1009 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.039 don't know. I know that the Jazz had moved up 1010 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.159 a lot in the Smith era in terms of that, 1011 00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.679 because they were really able to kind of tap into 1012 00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.239 Utah's texting and get much higher sponsorship rates than they 1013 00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:36.920 had kind of in the Miller era, especially kind of 1014 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.519 earlier middle in the Miller era. So you know, my 1015 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.159 early impressions are that they have, you know, have done 1016 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:47.880 well in that space. But I couldn't tell you exact numbers, 1017 00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.480 I like if they ranked top twenty, top fifteen, like 1018 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:53.199 what we're actually talking about here. I do know, like, look, 1019 00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:56.320 the collective bargaining agreement of the NBA, especially right now, 1020 00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:59.719 kind of guarantees that the Jazz and the Smiths are 1021 00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.599 going to make money on this, right, Like if we 1022 00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:04.199 you know, if we're honest, the Jazz are going into 1023 00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.440 the season next year with the lowest payroll in the NBA. 1024 00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:09.760 They can pay that off and then some just based 1025 00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:12.599 on the you know, national TV money alone almost right, Like, 1026 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.599 it's not going to be close from a money making 1027 00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:17.480 point of view. The Smiths are going to be just fine. 1028 00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:20.079 From from that point of view, I guess I'm not 1029 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.280 worried about that at all. From you know, if you're 1030 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:23.960 worried about how much are going to spend on payroll 1031 00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:26.440 or whatever. Whether or not these businesses are are viable, 1032 00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:30.039 they absolutely are because the clips of bargaining agreements of 1033 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:33.559 both leagues have really made sure that every team is 1034 00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:34.480 going to make a lot of money. 1035 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:37.719 All right, So let's, uh, let's move over into the 1036 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:41.840 space of, you know, ultimately a quick little jazz thought 1037 00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:44.960 as we actually know before we do that, because I 1038 00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.760 saw this on your Twitter timeline and I know it's 1039 00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.280 been talked about. So for our listeners that may have 1040 00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:55.199 missed it, the Smith Entertainment Group did announce the streaming 1041 00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.559 options at the disposal of the fans for both the 1042 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:02.400 Hockey Club and the Jazz Get the details, Andy, Yeah. 1043 00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:04.960 So three different streaming options. You got your Jazz Plus 1044 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.159 from last season now, a Utah Hockey Club Plus and 1045 00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:13.159 an SEG plus, which just basically combines bolls. It's seventy 1046 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:14.960 dollars a month for the Hockey club, one hundred and 1047 00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:16.920 twenty five dollars a month, or sorry, one hundred seventy 1048 00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:18.800 dollars a year for the Hockey club, one hundred and 1049 00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.920 twenty five dollars a year for Jazz Plus. Combine them 1050 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.519 together and it's one hundred and seventy. I believe, if 1051 00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:26.840 I if I'm remembering the number right on the combined 1052 00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:30.480 price that's available for fans in Utah and kind of 1053 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.719 surrounding states. The broadcast range is a lot wider for 1054 00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.119 the Hockey Club than the Jazz, just due to NBA 1055 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:41.199 restrictions basically, and that the Smith Entertainment Group sold off 1056 00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:44.000 some of the broadcast rights in Washington and Idaho to 1057 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:49.119 Root Sports up Northwest. But yeah, you know, honestly, if 1058 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:51.239 you are familiar with kind of how Jazz Plus works 1059 00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.960 last year, the Hockey Club's streaming service will work pretty 1060 00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:57.880 much the same as that. And then if you don't 1061 00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.719 want to pay that kind of streaming feed to stream 1062 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:03.440 the games online, you can also just get them over 1063 00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:06.400 the over the air on on antenna broadcast and that's 1064 00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.960 you know, k Jazz channel fourteen for the Jazz and 1065 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:12.920 then channel sixteen. I believe it's kup X for for 1066 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:13.599 the huck teams. 1067 00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:18.639 All right, one jazz thing, because I I don't know, 1068 00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:19.760 man like Bowler. 1069 00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:20.920 Bowler. 1070 00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:24.920 Bowler was in studio last week and he was running 1071 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:27.920 over his questions about the rotations, and I just wanted 1072 00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.039 to give him a hug, you know, like, I don't 1073 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.559 want to hear Locke stats about Patty Mills and Drew 1074 00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:34.400 Eubanks pick and roll in the second half of the 1075 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:36.440 third quarter. I just I can't. I'm not gonna be 1076 00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:38.000 able to do it. So I want to ask you 1077 00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:41.159 about Will. So CBS Sports released their lists. They do 1078 00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:45.519 it's off season fodder best you know, best coaches in 1079 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:46.960 the NBA that Will at seven? 1080 00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:48.679 Uh it does? 1081 00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:52.519 It does seem like, you know, he is respected across 1082 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.480 the league with coaches that he has worked for, coaches 1083 00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.159 he's worked with in San Antonio and Boston US US basketball. 1084 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:02.400 I watch the Jazz fifty documentary and Will's doing the 1085 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:05.360 whole like, Hey, this isn't your grandfather's jazz, and I'm like, oh, okay, 1086 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.320 so what is your jazz? Because I don't think you know. 1087 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.320 I don't think they know. But I just wonder, with 1088 00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:13.960 what you know about him, where you think his mentality 1089 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.599 is at. And I understand that he has a long 1090 00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:19.400 term contract. I understand that he was given guaranteed money. 1091 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:21.599 I understand that he is part of the process. I 1092 00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:25.280 get it. But I know coaches, man, and coaches aren't 1093 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:28.639 necessarily thrilled about a long game when they are going 1094 00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:32.719 into a gunfight with a knife every single night. Where 1095 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:34.679 do you think his head is at as he enters 1096 00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:38.400 year three of a project that really, at this point, Andy, 1097 00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:41.199 if we're honest, does not have a clear line of 1098 00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:43.480 delineation as to when he is going to be able 1099 00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.480 to go into gym's and have a fair fight with 1100 00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:47.079 other coaches. 1101 00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:48.320 Where do you think he's at with all this? 1102 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:49.239 Yeah? 1103 00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:51.679 Look, I mean every conversation I've ever had with Will 1104 00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:54.840 over the last couple of years about this, he's been 1105 00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:59.039 as understanding and as forgiving as anyone possibly can be. 1106 00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:03.719 Even when you know, I'll write something critical about jazz 1107 00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:05.440 player and He'll be like, yeah, I know, you know 1108 00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.519 it's not news to Will. And I'll be like, okay, 1109 00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:11.320 then why are you playing? You know, Rudy gay And 1110 00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:14.199 he was plain x YZ whatever, locker room deal, et cetera. 1111 00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:16.800 But in the end, like he sees this all as 1112 00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:20.840 like a multi year ramp up to something else. Now, 1113 00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:23.880 I think he would have hoped that by year three 1114 00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:26.960 of his contracts that they would be further along in 1115 00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:29.800 that rebuild than they are. But I also think that 1116 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:34.079 he sees himself as part of the long term process 1117 00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.440 kind of beyond the five year contract, and that in 1118 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.360 the end, like, I don't know that he wildly disagrees 1119 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:42.639 with the moves that the front office has made to 1120 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:45.760 get here, you know, And I think, you know, I 1121 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.559 think a lot of coaches, you're right, would have demanded 1122 00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:53.039 better talent or try to accelerate the rebuild. And I 1123 00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:55.880 think Will is pretty understanding. And maybe that's just due 1124 00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:58.440 to his youth of kind of where the Jazz are. 1125 00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:02.159 So I guess I I'm less worried about Will than 1126 00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:05.360 I am about SAYL Lowry Markinen, who you know, has 1127 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:09.239 a more limited prime less in his career, where Will 1128 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:12.760 can coach until he's sixty, right, and probably be pretty good. 1129 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:16.039 So I don't anticipate that being a problem. I you know, 1130 00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:18.639 I think that the Jazz can retain Will Hardy, and 1131 00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:21.679 you know, I think he's he's going to be on board. 1132 00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.800 But I do think that, and I think that kind 1133 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.519 of that kind of patience as an asset, I think 1134 00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:33.519 he's really pretty well equipped to deal with this, even 1135 00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.000 though you know, I think it's fair to say that, yeah, 1136 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.639 the first two years UH didn't give him as much 1137 00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:41.679 fruit for a year three or year four as. 1138 00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:42.280 He might have helped. 1139 00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:44.920 All right, Andie before I said you loose quick, RSL 1140 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:48.760 thought the good and the bad? What has Andy Larson's 1141 00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:51.960 vibes high? And what has Andy Larson concerned the rest 1142 00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:52.360 of the way. 1143 00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.440 I mean, they won on Wednesday and it wasn't a 1144 00:53:56.559 --> 00:54:01.679 very confident or you know, confidence inspiring win. And you know, 1145 00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:04.960 I think ultimately the hope is that you know, Diogo 1146 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:08.159 gets it together, that some of these new editions end 1147 00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:10.960 up being worth kind of what they were they. 1148 00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:13.239 Were purchased for. 1149 00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:16.039 But as of now, like the attack looks a little 1150 00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:19.000 bit sketchy. I think maybe if you start Anderson Julio 1151 00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:20.880 up top and Techo in the middle, you're you might 1152 00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.239 be better than just starting Teacho up top and Julio 1153 00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:25.920 off the bench. That's something to consider. And I thought 1154 00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:28.159 it was really interesting what Jason christ said on a 1155 00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:31.639 station about how you know no players. 1156 00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:32.119 Place is safe. 1157 00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:34.480 I think there's kind of some real competition for these 1158 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.079 spots given that some of the bigger money names haven't 1159 00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.599 played that well over the last few months. So you know, 1160 00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.079 there's stuff for them to figure out over the next 1161 00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.480 what four games it is until the playoffs start. But 1162 00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:47.719 if they do. I think they can get to the 1163 00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:49.960 heights of of you know, earlier in the year, but 1164 00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:53.599 there's there and they're not a terrible team as is, 1165 00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:56.239 they're just an average team. My hope is that you know, 1166 00:54:56.320 --> 00:55:00.480 they retain a home court playoff advantage, home field advantage, 1167 00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:03.079 I guess I should say, and you know, make it 1168 00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:04.760 into the second third round and then as you know, 1169 00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:07.000 it's soccer or anything can happen. But they're no longer 1170 00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:08.880 kind of a favorite that I think they were a 1171 00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:09.519 few months ago. 1172 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:13.039 What's a handsome, young eligible batcher like Andy Larson doing 1173 00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:14.840 on a Friday night in Salt Lake City. 1174 00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:17.440 Hanging out with Aaron Falkon then going to the BS game? 1175 00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.519 Lovely? Okay, Well, enjoy that teller and we said hello 1176 00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:22.320 and we'll see us soon. Andy, thanks for the time. 1177 00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:23.039 We'll do. 1178 00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:26.239 Thanks, Andy Larson saw late Tribune. All right, I want 1179 00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:28.719 to tell you about my friends that Diamond Coat Premium 1180 00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:31.320 home siding. 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Good one tonight, two top 1200 00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:37.280 twenty five teams, the Fighting Alaina Illinois taking on Nebraska. 1201 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.760 Thursday night football. Last night saw my New York Jets 1202 00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:44.480 handle the New England Patriots. I always enjoy that Chris 1203 00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:46.480 Camaraddie will stop by at about a half hour from 1204 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:49.639 right now. Ck wrote a great piece on Cam Rising 1205 00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:51.639 this week, so we'll do some utes with Ck Moore, 1206 00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:55.440 Utah football with Robert Johnson, and then we'll go from there. 1207 00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:57.719 But a lot of conversation in the market this week 1208 00:56:58.320 --> 00:56:59.719 about the quarterback position. 1209 00:56:59.760 --> 00:56:59.920 At you. 1210 00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:02.599 That's not a new topic. We've been talking about it 1211 00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:04.559 for a long time. And obviously when it comes to 1212 00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:09.360 one Cameron Rising, oftentimes the conversation is predicated on his health. 1213 00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:12.559 Told that he is going to play, and I know 1214 00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:16.480 there are rumors out there because there always are. The 1215 00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:20.159 line on Wednesday night moved four point five points in 1216 00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.960 two and a half hours. That rarely, if ever, happens 1217 00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:26.920 unless two things go down, one injury news happens to 1218 00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:30.519 a very important player like a quarterback, or two very 1219 00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:33.760 wealthy people decide to move the line with some shark betting, 1220 00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:36.039 some wise guy betting. Maybe that's the case because the 1221 00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:39.760 line has moved now back towards the University of Utah, 1222 00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:42.800 so don't take my word for it. Earlier today Cameron 1223 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.760 Rising sat down with Sean O'Connell and here's that conversation. 1224 00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.280 Time now for the Rising Report, which of course is 1225 00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:54.840 a conversation with QB one Cameron Rising of your ute's 1226 00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:55.679 Cam Rising. 1227 00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:56.039 What's up? 1228 00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:58.280 How are you doing good? How are you? 1229 00:57:58.679 --> 00:57:59.360 I'm doing all right? 1230 00:57:59.400 --> 00:57:59.599 Man? 1231 00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:03.000 You know I got to ask, so how's the hand feeling. 1232 00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:06.960 It's feeling a lot better, definitely way better than last 1233 00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:09.599 week and just continues to get better. So just got 1234 00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:12.559 to keep staying on top of treatment and everything and 1235 00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:13.800 or turn it in the right direction. 1236 00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:16.079 That's always good to hear. 1237 00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:19.079 I want to focus a lot of this conversation on 1238 00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.000 Oklahoma State, but I do want to look back a 1239 00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:24.679 little bit at this Utah State game. And you know, 1240 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.599 your guys did it without you, not without you. You 1241 00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.599 were there, you were on the sideline, warmed up, getting 1242 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:34.920 yourself ready to play. A slow start for Utah. You've 1243 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:36.880 seen it happen when you're under center. You've seen it 1244 00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.159 happen when you're watching on the sideline. You probably seen 1245 00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:42.280 it happen when you were watching it on TV. Is 1246 00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:43.840 there a way to look back on it and say 1247 00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.079 why a slow start happens? Can you figure it out 1248 00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:46.840 after the fact. 1249 00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:52.760 Sometimes in football you don't don't connect early and can't 1250 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:55.480 really get into a rhythm. And when that happens, it 1251 00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:57.599 just it just gets hard for the offense. It gets 1252 00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:02.159 a little stagnant. And then usually coach Coach Lud calls 1253 00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:04.519 them some easy plays to the quarterback that gives them 1254 00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:06.760 some easy reads and and kind of get into a rhythm. 1255 00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:10.119 And and I think once once that happens, usually that 1256 00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:12.760 offense starts to get rolling. And it did that just 1257 00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:15.280 this is last Saturday, and we just got to make 1258 00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:18.199 sure we're coming out a lot fatter this game because 1259 00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:20.679 this is a this is a high powered team right here. 1260 00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:24.679 I've been trying to get to the bottom of this. 1261 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:28.599 Isaac looked so much better after the half, and I 1262 00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:29.760 asked coach wit about it. 1263 00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:31.159 Hey, what'd you say to him? What did you do? 1264 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:32.719 You said, I didn't do anything. 1265 00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:34.559 He was over with coach Lud And I asked Coach 1266 00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:36.800 Lud and he didn't think it was something that happened 1267 00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:39.440 at halftime. Did you have a conversation with Isaac Wilson 1268 00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:41.320 at halftime? Were you able to tell that the second 1269 00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:42.559 half was going to be a better half? 1270 00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.480 I I kind of got that sense in the in 1271 00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:48.239 the at the end of the second half, in that 1272 00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:51.440 second quarter, I think he really started to get a 1273 00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:54.400 rhythm and just get a feel for the game and 1274 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:57.519 and really just got comfortable back there and and yeah, 1275 00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:00.440 he just he turned it on. I think it half time. 1276 01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:02.159 The only thing I told him is, look, go win 1277 01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:06.519 this game. It's explicit right there. But no, Yeah, and 1278 01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:10.199 he was fired up and yeah, and it was a 1279 01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:12.440 it was a good day and he came out on fire. 1280 01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:14.199 I think he was eight for eight out of the half. 1281 01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:17.920 And anytime you get to do that and the offense 1282 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:19.880 is going to be firing on all cylinders. 1283 01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:22.679 And coach Lud said he actually thought it was the 1284 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:25.840 touchdown pass in the late second quarter two Money Parks. 1285 01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:29.440 Coach Ludd called it an AHA moment. He said, I 1286 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:32.880 think that's where the game kind of clicked for Isaac Wilson. 1287 01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:35.000 And that makes sense to me, right, You get you 1288 01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.679 get those moments where you realize, oh my gosh, I 1289 01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:39.920 know exactly what I'm doing, I belong here, et cetera. 1290 01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:42.599 When did that happen for you? Do you do you 1291 01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:46.239 remember in your career, earlier in your career when you 1292 01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:49.239 were just like, ah, I know exactly how to play 1293 01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:49.840 this position. 1294 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:51.400 I'm going to be fine moving forward. 1295 01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:55.679 I think it was just the San Diego State game 1296 01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:58.760 that I played in in twenty one that, yeah, just 1297 01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:02.320 kind of playing free, you don't really have any any 1298 01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:05.079 worries and just go out there and play some ball. 1299 01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.320 That that's kind of where I started to feel that 1300 01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:10.159 comfort playing playing quarterback. 1301 01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:12.960 It's actually really funny to hear you say that, because 1302 01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:17.360 if you ask Utah fans, like, what was the pivotal 1303 01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:20.599 moment for this team in the turning point, like they will, 1304 01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:23.000 they will point to that same thing. And when Cam 1305 01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:26.519 Rising took over as QB one and you know, still 1306 01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:29.239 lost that San Diego State game, you played well, fought back, 1307 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:32.920 but after that it was onward and upward and two 1308 01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:35.360 PAC twelve championships and all that other stuff. So it's 1309 01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:38.320 funny that your recollection of it, the moment for you 1310 01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:40.280 is the same for a lot of the fans. 1311 01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:43.480 Yeah, I mean, whenever you get that get your name called, 1312 01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:46.519 you just gotta be ready. And yeah, that's that was 1313 01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:49.920 definitely a good game, but I still wish we could 1314 01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:52.800 have won it. That's one thing I regret about that game. 1315 01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:56.400 Cam Rising my guest here on the Sean O'Connell show 1316 01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:59.960 for the Rising Report headed on the road to still Water. 1317 01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:03.440 Let's talk about this game with Oklahoma State. They are 1318 01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:07.360 a team that is a lot like Utah, sometimes overlooked, 1319 01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.119 maybe not as big of a brand, but just as 1320 01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:13.760 powerful and can beat anybody in college football. That was 1321 01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:16.239 true when they were in the Big Twelve with Texas 1322 01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:21.400 and with Oklahoma that's true. Now your expectations for the 1323 01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:25.320 atmosphere in still Water. The stadium's about the same size 1324 01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:28.599 as rice Ecles. The fan base is very similar, very loyal. 1325 01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:32.519 It should be loud, Oh absolutely. I mean I've been 1326 01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:35.320 there before, back when I was at Texas, and it's 1327 01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:38.079 a it's aeraudi, rowdy crowd, and they do a good 1328 01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:41.159 job making noise. They got they got the paddles smacking 1329 01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:43.639 the boards and stuff, and it's it's going to be 1330 01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:46.760 a great environment. And it's kind of everything you dream 1331 01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:49.239 of as a kid playing college football, going into the 1332 01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:52.320 hostel environment like that, and yeah, just just ready to 1333 01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:54.480 get out there and get the ball over all. 1334 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:58.800 Right, let's talk about what this Oklahoma State team is 1335 01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:01.599 on paper, and maybe you could tell me more about 1336 01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:04.800 what they are on film, because on paper right now, 1337 01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:08.679 they're the worst passing defense in the Big twelve Conference. 1338 01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:10.679 They're giving up a lot of yardage, but they're not 1339 01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:13.960 giving up a ton of points. They're obviously three and oho, 1340 01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:17.119 so the only stat that really matters, they're successful. 1341 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:18.199 They won them all. 1342 01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:21.599 But you know, this is a young secondary that has 1343 01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:23.199 shown some vulnerability. 1344 01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:26.079 That's the paper side. What do you see it on film? 1345 01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:29.960 They love to play a lot of man coverage and stuff, 1346 01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:34.079 and they do run multiple coverages and stuff, and I 1347 01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:37.119 know that can be challenging for offenses to see, but 1348 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:39.719 it can also be challenging for them to go out 1349 01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:43.599 there and execute all those different different types of defenses 1350 01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:46.880 that you can see. Not a very typical thing that 1351 01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:49.760 a lot of defenses do. But they definitely have some 1352 01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:52.440 great athletes on the defense that can make some plays 1353 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:55.360 and stuff like that. And I think, like you said, 1354 01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:57.400 they don't give up very many points, and I think 1355 01:03:57.440 --> 01:03:59.840 that's because they play good red zone defense and stuff 1356 01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:02.960 like that. And yeah, they're they're a good team. And 1357 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.920 I think they do a good job just feeding off 1358 01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:09.519 the offense and and and relying on that and and 1359 01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:13.159 both both sides can really do stuff. But yeah, they're 1360 01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:13.920 they're a good team. 1361 01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:18.719 I asked coach Lovely this yesterday and he said, you know, 1362 01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:22.639 I wasn't holding anything in the playbook back against Baylor. 1363 01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:24.400 We need to win these games. You gotta win all 1364 01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:27.400 of these games. Is there something Is there anything new 1365 01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:30.360 or the new wrinkles that we might see against Oklahoma 1366 01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:34.320 State that in the non conference the playbook didn't get 1367 01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:36.719 that deep, or because it was Isaac instead of Cam 1368 01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:40.119 and and you know the freshman doesn't have the same bandwidth. Well, 1369 01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:42.639 we see more in the offense this week from a 1370 01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:46.480 play calling standpoint, you think, I. 1371 01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.159 Mean, yeah, you can. You can definitely dress things up 1372 01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:51.400 differently and make it give it a different appearance. But 1373 01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:53.559 at the end of the day, it's football. You got 1374 01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:55.679 to go out there and execute plays and stuff and 1375 01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:57.679 and well you got to make sure we're running stuff 1376 01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:01.639 that we're comfortable with. And I think the team is 1377 01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:03.599 just ready. I think a lot of the plays we've 1378 01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:06.400 been working on for a long time, ever since really springball, 1379 01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.079 so just got to be ready to go for whatever 1380 01:05:09.119 --> 01:05:11.679 coach lad calls. I mean, there's always going to be 1381 01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:14.760 new wrinkles in each and every week, and I think 1382 01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:17.000 coach Elied does a good job just making sure we're 1383 01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:20.280 hitting on all cylinders. And really just know what we 1384 01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:21.840 want to get accomplished of each play. 1385 01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:25.760 I know that every game is taken very seriously, and 1386 01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:28.400 you do take it one week at a time, and 1387 01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:32.400 everyone's trying to improve every single week. Is there a 1388 01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:35.079 sense in practice this week though, like, hey, now we 1389 01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:36.320 really got to step up. 1390 01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:38.400 I need ten percent more from everybody. 1391 01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:41.760 I need whatever that number is more from everybody, because 1392 01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:45.239 not only is this conference play, but this is another 1393 01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.800 team that is your equal. This is another highly ranked 1394 01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:50.079 team that is built just like you are in a 1395 01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:53.239 lot of ways. Is there that sense where like you 1396 01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:56.039 already took all these other games seriously, but this one 1397 01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:57.639 is even more important and you got to be that 1398 01:05:57.760 --> 01:05:58.239 much better. 1399 01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:01.960 Yeah? Absolutely. I mean when you get to conference place, 1400 01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:06.039 it comes down to championships at that point. So every 1401 01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:08.559 game we play is pretty much have to be treated 1402 01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:11.639 as if it's a championship, and you just got to 1403 01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:13.880 go out there and be ready to execute. And I 1404 01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:16.599 think we've had a great week of practice so far 1405 01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:19.119 and just got to finish these next two days off 1406 01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:21.800 and get on the plane and get ready to go. 1407 01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:26.280 Okay, I know they're piping noise in in the practices, right, 1408 01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:28.559 they do that thing where they turn up the speakers. 1409 01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:32.199 How annoying is that for you? I mean I was 1410 01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:33.400 only a practice player. 1411 01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:35.719 I didn't have to deal with crowd noise in the games, 1412 01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:39.559 but I hated those weeks of practice where urban Meyer 1413 01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:42.239 would roll out the big speaker system and just crank 1414 01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:45.280 that stuff up. You couldn't hear yourself think it's the worst. 1415 01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:51.119 It is. It's not the worst. I actually I have 1416 01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:55.159 grown quite fond of it. It definitely makes that environment 1417 01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:58.840 just kind of seem peaceful, more peaceful. You kind of 1418 01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:00.920 feel a little bit more comfortable once you get into 1419 01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:03.119 that loud third down and stuff like that, or even 1420 01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:06.280 in the red zone, and I just I just feel like, yeah, 1421 01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:07.920 you have to kind of do that just so that 1422 01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:11.239 you're you're going in to those hostile environments and you 1423 01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:13.880 got to make sure everybody can hear and gets the 1424 01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:17.239 play call, because sometimes those play calls get get pretty long, 1425 01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:20.079 and and just it's, uh, it's good to get work 1426 01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:22.000 at it during the week so that we can go 1427 01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:23.559 into the game time and be ready to go. 1428 01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:28.480 Is the is the headset in your helmets just like headphones. 1429 01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:30.559 You can turn the volume up and down like you've 1430 01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:32.840 had to adjust that or you're willing to adjust that 1431 01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:35.480 when you're practicing it and when you're in the. 1432 01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:39.039 Game, Yeah, for sure. And we also have these little 1433 01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:41.679 covers that kind of go in our helmet that that 1434 01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:46.039 pretty much simulate covering your your ear piece right there, 1435 01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:49.639 so or that ear hole that's in the helmet, and yeah, 1436 01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:51.519 that that kind of makes it makes it a lot 1437 01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:54.320 easier here. And just with that speaker being right next 1438 01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:56.639 to your ear and having a cover, it really keeps 1439 01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:59.559 the sound in. So should should be should be pretty 1440 01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:00.960 good here the calls and everything. 1441 01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:04.599 There's actually a built in cover in your helmet. 1442 01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:08.039 Because the only time a quarterback doesn't look cool on 1443 01:08:08.079 --> 01:08:10.599 a football field is when he's standing there looking at 1444 01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:12.840 the sideline and cupping his hands over the ear holes 1445 01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:15.360 in the helmet. That's the only time a quarterback doesn't 1446 01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:17.560 look cool. So they've eliminated that possibility. 1447 01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:21.680 Yeah, I mean it's I think they do it in 1448 01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:24.239 the NFL an away games and stuff. Yeah, it's just 1449 01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:27.520 a little piece that covers that ear hole. And it's 1450 01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:30.880 hard to talk to people from the side. But besides that, 1451 01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:32.720 you need you need to get the call really, and 1452 01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:34.520 that's the one thing you need to focus on. 1453 01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:35.399 That's awesome. 1454 01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:38.439 Cam Rising and my guest here on the Sean O'Connell show, 1455 01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:42.279 getting ready for a road trip. Utes at Oklahoma State. 1456 01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:45.079 Utes are ranked twelfth in the country. Oklahoma State ranked 1457 01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:50.000 fourteenth in the country. Going back to that secondary and 1458 01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:52.520 they are it's a young secondary and they do have 1459 01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:53.640 a bunch of different looks. 1460 01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:57.119 Is this a week where you could see the wide receiver. 1461 01:08:56.800 --> 01:09:00.359 Room specifically being a bigger part of the offense, you know, 1462 01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:02.920 going off for some more touchdowns, because we've seen the 1463 01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:05.960 passing game pick up, but it's been tight ends, it's 1464 01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:08.079 been you know, running backs out of the backfield. 1465 01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:10.800 Is this the week for the wide receiver room? Potentially? 1466 01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:14.000 Absolutely. I Mean, anytime you get a team that plays 1467 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:16.880 a lot of man coverage, you got to have guys 1468 01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:19.319 who went on the outside, and that's really what what 1469 01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:22.560 will keep the offense moving down the field. So yeah, 1470 01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:24.279 I do expect them to have a good week. They 1471 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:28.000 they've been looking good running their outfall all week, and yeah, 1472 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.840 I'm just excited to get them the ball. 1473 01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:33.920 I know you're focused on the offensive performance here, but 1474 01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:38.199 your defense has got a tough task as well. Best 1475 01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:40.880 running back in the country last year was Olie Gordon 1476 01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:43.239 and he's still on that roster, and they brought back 1477 01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:45.319 a bunch of starters on the offensive line. 1478 01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:47.319 For whatever reason. 1479 01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:49.880 They have yet to really get it going in the 1480 01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:52.520 run game at Oklahoma State. And again, I know you're 1481 01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:56.760 focused on their defense and your offense, but when you're 1482 01:09:56.760 --> 01:09:59.880 in those team periods and we've kind of like talked 1483 01:09:59.880 --> 01:10:02.600 to the coaching staff and figured out the whole game plan, 1484 01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:04.760 have you figured out have you all been able to 1485 01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:07.479 figure out why that is happening why that run game 1486 01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:09.159 hasn't got going yet for Oklahoma State? 1487 01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:12.800 Not really. I mean I don't I don't really get 1488 01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:15.119 to study their offense very much, so I don't like 1489 01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:19.279 to vary from from what I have to accomplish. But yeah, 1490 01:10:19.439 --> 01:10:22.439 I think they definitely have struggled running it and stuff 1491 01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:26.119 like that. But I I think they just haven't haven't 1492 01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:28.800 really opened it up and and and tried to give 1493 01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:32.119 all these some new new new looks and just let 1494 01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.680 him kind of handle it. Because I do have a 1495 01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:37.520 lot of respect for him, think he's a very very 1496 01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:40.199 good running back. And yeah, I think it's going to 1497 01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:42.319 be a hard task for the defense, but I think 1498 01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:43.239 they'll be up for it. 1499 01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:47.840 Oklahoma State is without a guy you could argue is 1500 01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:50.680 their best pass rusher. I could make an argument that 1501 01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:53.640 Colin Oliver is probably their best overall defender because of 1502 01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:58.199 his versatility, and they're without him. How do you attack 1503 01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:01.680 a defense knowing they're without their best player potentially. 1504 01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:05.520 It's never never something you want. You always want to 1505 01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:08.600 go against the best, And yeah, I think he's a 1506 01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:11.119 phenomenal player. I wish he was going to be able 1507 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:13.920 to be on the field, but yeah, you just gotta 1508 01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:16.439 gotta go go attack it in every way. You can 1509 01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:20.479 take advantage of the past because he was a phenomenal 1510 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:22.560 pass rush of him stuff, But they definitely have some 1511 01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:25.479 guys behind him that can that can do some that 1512 01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:27.760 can disrupt some plays and stuff like that. So it 1513 01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:29.359 just got to be ready to play and play at 1514 01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:31.720 a high level. It doesn't matter who's on the field. 1515 01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:33.680 Just got to go out there and execute. 1516 01:11:34.279 --> 01:11:37.439 The pole question on Twitter today for the Sean O'Connell 1517 01:11:37.479 --> 01:11:42.119 Show is do you expect this game to be a slugfest, 1518 01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:45.920 low scoring, kind of grind it out type game or 1519 01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:50.119 could it potentially turn into the high flying, high scoring 1520 01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:55.520 shootout Because the Brands are Utah Physical Team grinds it 1521 01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:58.640 out the brand for Oklahoma State Physical Team grinds it Out, 1522 01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:02.560 But both squads now very capable opening things up in 1523 01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:04.800 the past game. Actually, Oklahoma State has been a lot 1524 01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:07.439 more successful this year with their pass game than they 1525 01:12:07.439 --> 01:12:10.279 have their run games. So I put the poll question 1526 01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:13.600 to the starting quarterback, what is more likely in Stillwater 1527 01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:16.119 a slug fest or a shootout? 1528 01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:20.199 I think it'll be somewhat of a combination of the 1529 01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:23.000 bull I think there would definitely be some points put 1530 01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:27.039 up on the board, and yeah, I think it's it's 1531 01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:29.800 kind of gonna be who can score the most. It's 1532 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.439 kind of always been that way in the Big Twelve, 1533 01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:39.359 and it's not going to be. It's definitely not going 1534 01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:41.399 to be an easy game. I think. I think everything's 1535 01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:43.720 going to be fought for. But yeah, I do expect 1536 01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:45.960 there to be some points put up on the board. 1537 01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:49.720 How much swagger does if McKay Bernard have walking around 1538 01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:52.039 right now? He's got a couple of one hundred yard 1539 01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:55.239 games under his belt. It's clear that he's proven himself 1540 01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:56.840 he can be running back number one. 1541 01:12:56.880 --> 01:12:58.760 He can be a bell cow, and. 1542 01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:01.279 It feels like a role he's been working toward for 1543 01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:03.239 a very long time. It's been fun for us to 1544 01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:05.920 kind of watch him accomplish that and and you know, 1545 01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:06.920 truly deserve it. 1546 01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:09.479 Here, what's he like in practice right now? 1547 01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:12.600 He's doing he's doing a great job, just making sure 1548 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:15.960 he's leading, always locked in and always kind of help 1549 01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:20.000 out in any way he can. He's a phenomenal player 1550 01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:22.079 and anytime he can get him the ball, it's easually 1551 01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:24.760 going to be very successful for the offense. So yeah, 1552 01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:26.680 I just got to go to make sure he stays 1553 01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:29.439 running downhill and and and pops and pops a few 1554 01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:32.520 big ones and not always always helps the whole offense. 1555 01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:35.239 But yeah, he's he's got a lot of confidence right now. 1556 01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:37.520 He just got to keep it rolling and let him 1557 01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:38.760 be the player he is. 1558 01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:41.439 And I'm not going to name any names right now. 1559 01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:45.880 This is a general question. When a player is in 1560 01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:49.399 the coaches doghouse or feels like he's in the coaches doghouse, 1561 01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:52.640 what can you do as a teammate, as a captain, 1562 01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:55.439 as a leader to help them work their way out 1563 01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:57.640 of a position where they feel some type of way 1564 01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:00.560 about the reps they're getting or the respect they're getting 1565 01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:00.960 or whatever. 1566 01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:01.279 It is. 1567 01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:07.479 I mean, just just stay locked in you can. That's 1568 01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:11.119 that's usually my always my advice. You never know when 1569 01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:13.159 when you're going to be needed, and and just got 1570 01:14:13.159 --> 01:14:15.399 to make sure you're ready for when your name is called, 1571 01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:17.720 so that you can go in there and kind of 1572 01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:20.039 not not not let them look back at all, and 1573 01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:23.960 just focus on the task at hand. That's that's pretty 1574 01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:26.199 much the only thing that there is to do, because 1575 01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:31.399 you can't really control anything else. And yeah, I I 1576 01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:34.279 think they whoever, whoever gets their name called at any 1577 01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:35.239 time will be ready to. 1578 01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:38.000 Go on the youth Cam rising for another minute or 1579 01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:40.479 two here on the Sean O'Connell Show, as the youthes 1580 01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:42.960 get ready for a road trip to steal Water to 1581 01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:44.439 take on Oklahoma State. 1582 01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:45.439 Uh. 1583 01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.720 Injuries are never funny, and the fallout from injuries are 1584 01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:52.680 never funny. But but something from your injury did turn 1585 01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:55.600 out to be at least a little bit funny this week. 1586 01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:58.960 I think you're on social media during the season, right, 1587 01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:00.720 you kind of stay away from the Twitter and stuff. 1588 01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:02.439 Yeah, for the most part. 1589 01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:05.880 Okay, so were you aware though of this? The troll 1590 01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:09.359 tweet the troll account that put out that like you 1591 01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:11.560 had developed I don't know, Gang Green or something. You 1592 01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:13.159 were going to be out for an extended amount of 1593 01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.720 time because of the hand injury, and some of some 1594 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:18.880 people got got some people fell for the tweet, including 1595 01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:19.800 Dion Sanders. 1596 01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:20.319 Did you see this? 1597 01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:23.880 I did? I and and thank you Dion. I was 1598 01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:27.079 very nice of you. I can't tell you how much 1599 01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:29.760 I appreciated him. Yeah, I think they said I got 1600 01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:33.479 tetanus or something. So yes, yeah, definitely definitely very nice 1601 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.600 of him. I got a lot of respect for coach 1602 01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:39.680 Dion and and and how he was doing doing his things. 1603 01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:44.640 But yeah, it's not an ideal situation when somebody starts 1604 01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:47.720 tweeting out stuff like that. It definitely definitely did get 1605 01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:50.640 some people, and even some of my teammates are asking 1606 01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:52.800 me if I was okay, So yeah, it was. It was. 1607 01:15:52.840 --> 01:15:54.119 It was definitely a funnier deal. 1608 01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:55.960 Oh, It's crazy how that happens. 1609 01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:59.439 And actually, not only did Dion express his respect for 1610 01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:02.479 you and is concerned for you, even when he found 1611 01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:05.119 out that the tweet was fake, he doubled down and 1612 01:16:05.239 --> 01:16:07.279 was just like, Okay, well what I said was still true. 1613 01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:09.680 Cam Rising is a beast and I still wish him well. 1614 01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:10.560 So that's really cool. 1615 01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:13.359 And that's really where I wanted to go with this question, 1616 01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:17.159 because look, Deon Sanders is one of the most famous 1617 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:21.319 guys in sports and even beyond sports, right, and Dion 1618 01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:25.680 has told us he's a Cam Rising fan. Like, I know, 1619 01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:28.680 you don't get starstruck. I know you're a star yourself 1620 01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:32.079 at this point. But who is the most famous Cam 1621 01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:35.600 Rising fan or who is the person who when you realize, oh, 1622 01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:38.039 they're aware of me and they talk about me, they 1623 01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:40.960 think about they like they know that I'm the starting 1624 01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.960 QB at utah, You're like, wow, that's actually pretty cool 1625 01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:46.800 that that person is a fan of Cam Rising. 1626 01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:48.600 Who is there a big name? 1627 01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:50.760 Is there a famous person who You're just like, wow, 1628 01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:51.560 that's pretty awesome. 1629 01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:54.720 I mean, well, growing up for me, I was more 1630 01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:58.800 so a dB and a corner so I actually loved Dion. 1631 01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:03.920 He would always be talking and and and just putting 1632 01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:06.520 on a show out there playing and everything like that. 1633 01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:09.880 And I was a Cowboys fan, so I always knew 1634 01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:12.439 knew about Dion or wearing that twenty one in the 1635 01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:16.000 Cowboys uniform, and and yeah, I've I've always had a 1636 01:17:16.039 --> 01:17:19.159 lot of respect for him and just just admire him 1637 01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:21.239 as a as an athlete and as a player and 1638 01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:24.880 even as a coach. And yeah, it's it's it's a 1639 01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:27.279 it's pretty cool to have one of the ghats talking 1640 01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:31.159 about you and and even just having any any any 1641 01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:34.560 respectful comments and anything like that. It's a it's a 1642 01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:37.680 good deal. And yeah, I think Dion is definitely something 1643 01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:40.359 that that sticks out to me in that in that. 1644 01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:41.960 Sense that would make sense. 1645 01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:43.840 He is one of the I mean, he is arguably 1646 01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:47.640 the best defensive back all time in football and obviously 1647 01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:51.840 a huge star for multiple reasons now, so pretty pretty 1648 01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:53.800 cool when a guy like that, especially if you grew 1649 01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:55.560 up watching him, just like, yeah, I'm a fan of 1650 01:17:55.600 --> 01:17:57.199 Cam Rising wild ball. 1651 01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:01.439 Yeah he's yeah, it's it's definitely and yeah, I think 1652 01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:04.520 he I think he is a goat at cornerback without 1653 01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:05.880 it out all. 1654 01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:09.079 Right, So good luck and still water. Obviously we're wishing 1655 01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:11.159 for your health. I'm gonna say it before we get out, 1656 01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:13.439 because you know, I got to you do expect to 1657 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:14.479 play this game? 1658 01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:17.680 Yes, that is my plan at the moment, is there. 1659 01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:19.920 That's what we're all hoping for. 1660 01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:20.239 Cam. 1661 01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:24.119 As always, I appreciate your time. We'll talk again next week. 1662 01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:25.039 Good luck. 1663 01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:27.279 They appreciate you have a good one. 1664 01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:30.000 Straight from the horse's mouth. 1665 01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:33.359 Cameron Rising says he's gonna play, and that appears to 1666 01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:36.560 be the plan as of now. If you missed it, 1667 01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:39.880 the line has moved back towards the utes. That's kind 1668 01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:41.840 of what caused the panic on Wednesday night, a four 1669 01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:43.560 and a half point movement over about two and a 1670 01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:48.039 half hours. Utah as we sit here today, right now, 1671 01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:51.960 just before four o'clock mountain time, is a one point 1672 01:18:52.039 --> 01:18:55.439 favorite over Oklahoma State in still Water. All right right 1673 01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:58.319 around the corner is the Black Desert Championship and the 1674 01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:01.279 Black Desert Resort in Saint George, Utah. October the ninth 1675 01:19:01.319 --> 01:19:04.600 through the thirteenth. Black Desert Championship marks the return of 1676 01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:06.800 the PGA Tour to Utah for the first time in 1677 01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:11.319 sixty years. Tickets available at Black Desert Events dot com. 1678 01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:14.079 Their instagram is Black Desert Championship. Went out there a 1679 01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:15.720 couple of months ago to play the track with some 1680 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:19.880 buddies and it is awesome. Excited for this, so tickets 1681 01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:23.079 on sale now at Black Desert Events dot com. It's 1682 01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.159 the Black Desert Championship October the ninth through the thirteenth. 1683 01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:31.520 Appropriate on a Friday beaver Dog by still Water, not 1684 01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:34.520 the city, but the band, fictional band? 1685 01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:37.479 Is it a fictional band? I mean it's a great song. 1686 01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.439 I don't know if they have other songs, but that's 1687 01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:43.680 the band from Almost Famous. And of course it's Chris 1688 01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:47.039 Camaradie who brings us a little stillwater on a Friday 1689 01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:50.439 afternoon seventy five degrees, Sonny, I mean, if you're not 1690 01:19:50.520 --> 01:19:53.439 out back with a audity or afferred at this point, 1691 01:19:53.479 --> 01:19:55.159 I'm not sure what you're waiting for, young man. 1692 01:19:56.359 --> 01:20:00.279 Well, I was outside for a while, but as always 1693 01:20:00.399 --> 01:20:03.800 I exist for the listeners, in the host of the drive, 1694 01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:08.079 for the best possible listening experience. So I find myself 1695 01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:12.720 in the kitchen doing my very best to walk the 1696 01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:16.680 line of being a parent and a special guest host 1697 01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:18.439 on this fine radio show at the same time. 1698 01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:20.439 Fair enough, fair enough, all right, you have been a 1699 01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:23.560 busy boy, Chris, you have been a busy, busy boy. 1700 01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:25.600 We'll start out with the piece that you wrote on 1701 01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:32.000 Cameron Rising, Utah's quarterback. Of course, there's another situation with 1702 01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:35.039 the health and you know all off season, you know 1703 01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:37.880 the conversation, it's like, all right, we gotta make sure. 1704 01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:41.560 He understands that he's too important toss to get hurt, 1705 01:20:41.640 --> 01:20:43.880 so get down, throw it out of bounds. And it 1706 01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:46.560 lasted a game and a half and now dealing with 1707 01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:51.159 it again out against Utah State. I think he's playing tomorrow, don't. 1708 01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:53.239 I don't know what else to say about it. I mean, 1709 01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:55.960 it was weird that the line moved on Wednesday night 1710 01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:58.520 four and a half points over the course of two 1711 01:20:58.560 --> 01:20:59.279 and a half hours. 1712 01:20:59.319 --> 01:20:59.960 That is weird. 1713 01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:03.199 That's not nothing, But I don't think it indicates he 1714 01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:04.960 isn't playing. I feel like I would have called win 1715 01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:07.600 of it at this point, but you wrote on it. 1716 01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:11.119 Where are we at at this point with Cam and 1717 01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:15.439 yet another conversation about an injury, and you know how 1718 01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:19.560 it kind of clouds the overall prism and viewpoint with 1719 01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:22.000 which we view this quarterback who's had a lot of 1720 01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:23.439 bad luck. What are your thoughts? He can't. 1721 01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:26.680 Yeah, the irony of this whole thing was this story 1722 01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:31.199 was Cam rising coming back from the two longest years 1723 01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:36.119 of his life, missing twenty months of football to you know, 1724 01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:39.399 the second game in Cam's got to get down, man, 1725 01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:42.000 bottom line, Cam's got to get down, and you know, 1726 01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:44.800 you take the twelve yard Sack. I mean, just give 1727 01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:48.560 yourself up. But I think when we talk about Cam Rising, 1728 01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:52.079 there's a reason why he's reached cult status within the 1729 01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:54.159 fan base is because he is a guy that has 1730 01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:57.920 a very hard time turning off the insatiable drive to 1731 01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:01.720 get one more yard. So the piece was, you know, 1732 01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:05.800 a a look back as to what Cam went through 1733 01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:08.840 for a very very long time, the will he won't 1734 01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:14.159 he all of that stuff, and right now we are 1735 01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:19.000 dealing with not a severe knee injury, but a questionable 1736 01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:22.199 hand injury due to the fact that he went barreling 1737 01:22:22.279 --> 01:22:28.039 into a hydration station along the Baylor sideline. I'm with you, Spence. 1738 01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:31.560 I do think he plays. I mean, I honestly think 1739 01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:35.399 if the games were switched and last week we're talking 1740 01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:39.119 about you know, Utah Okay State, I think there's probably 1741 01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:41.079 an outside chance that Cam would have tried to play, 1742 01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:44.800 just because of the importance of this game. But we 1743 01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:48.119 don't know because Utah's policy when it comes to injuries 1744 01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:50.600 within the program is they do not talk about injuries 1745 01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:52.399 within the program. You have to try to read the 1746 01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:57.600 tea leaves. But Cam is a fascinating figurehead in the 1747 01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:01.039 history of Utah football. He's a guy who led them 1748 01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:04.479 to two rose bulls, and if he stays healthy, he 1749 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:06.920 gives this team a chance to make the CFP. But 1750 01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:10.520 there's a reason why quarterback is the most important position 1751 01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:13.439 in sports. All the pressure is on you, and for 1752 01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:16.399 Cam the last couple of years has been pretty tough. 1753 01:23:16.439 --> 01:23:18.920 I mean, he's a guy that doesn't necessarily let clouds 1754 01:23:19.399 --> 01:23:22.439 darken his sunny disposition. But you know, he told me 1755 01:23:22.479 --> 01:23:25.560 the door dash build got pretty expensive and expensive at 1756 01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:28.600 times because he got so tired of going out and 1757 01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:31.079 having people just asking how you doing, how you doing, 1758 01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:33.680 how you doing. It's really hard for anybody to have 1759 01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:35.760 to deliver bad news when you don't want to deliver 1760 01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:39.319 bad news, let alone on the level that lastly almost 1761 01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:39.840 two years. 1762 01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:44.039 Because you got access to Cameron, you got access to 1763 01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:46.359 his parents, you had a lot of access for your piece. 1764 01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:48.760 For our listeners that have not read it, you can 1765 01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:51.680 go to CK's Twitter page where he's very active, or 1766 01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:54.800 you can just go to the athletic website. I We'll 1767 01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:56.560 tell you where you can find it. But what other 1768 01:23:56.760 --> 01:24:00.439 anecdotes stood out? Pieces of info stood out that you 1769 01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:03.560 did not know prior to talking to Cameron. Talking to 1770 01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:04.880 his parents and writing your piece. 1771 01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:08.640 Well, one of the most interesting things was Cam telling 1772 01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:11.600 me that he did some rehab work with Aaron Rodgers, 1773 01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:15.720 who is also a patient of doctor Neil Elatrosh, who 1774 01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:21.640 is probably the most well renowned orthopedic, you know, specialty 1775 01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:25.159 surgeon in the country when it comes to superstar athletes. 1776 01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:29.680 And you know, Cam said it, stuff like that matters, man, 1777 01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:33.079 whether you're twenty five or nineteen or thirty five, anytime 1778 01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:35.760 you get to hang out with a guy like Aaron Rogers, 1779 01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:39.880 who is very, very good at football, Cam said that 1780 01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:43.640 being able to talk to guys like Aaron Rodgers, JK. Dobbins, 1781 01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:45.560 other guys who are in kind of the thick of 1782 01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:48.479 things with him as he's going through the grind of 1783 01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:52.159 trying to get back, that stuff matters. It picks people 1784 01:24:52.239 --> 01:24:55.079 up because you see that other people who have reached 1785 01:24:55.399 --> 01:24:58.600 the pinnacle of their goals with you know, becoming professional players, 1786 01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:01.880 they're going through it too. So that's that's one thing 1787 01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:03.960 that I found really interesting. I mean, for me, Cam 1788 01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:07.159 is a guy who is kind of a paradox. He 1789 01:25:07.319 --> 01:25:10.439 is a star football player and then in the nil 1790 01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:14.399 world reportedly makes a whole lot of money and he 1791 01:25:14.479 --> 01:25:17.479 just doesn't like the spotlight that much. He understands that 1792 01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:21.239 what is required of him. He's never rude, he's never 1793 01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:27.399 you know, off putting. But listen, man, it's it's a 1794 01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:30.800 it's an interesting existence when you have the hopes of 1795 01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:34.520 hundreds I think it's accurate to say hundreds of thousands 1796 01:25:34.560 --> 01:25:37.680 of people on your shoulders and not to mention lots 1797 01:25:37.680 --> 01:25:39.800 of money on the line with the success of a 1798 01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:43.439 program like UTAH, whereas you know, if Cam is healthy 1799 01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:47.239 and available, UTAH has a chance to do more, has 1800 01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:49.560 a chance to break new ground as it did with 1801 01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:52.560 Cam Underson er twice and making Ross Bowls. If they 1802 01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:55.880 can do that again, then you're talking about Cam potentially 1803 01:25:55.960 --> 01:25:58.960 leading this program to a CFP. But again, it all 1804 01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:03.560 boils down to the health factor. And unfortunately for Cam, 1805 01:26:03.640 --> 01:26:07.600 he's been dealt so many difficult spots in his career 1806 01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:10.720 that he just has he just has to always find 1807 01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:11.600 a way to bounce back. 1808 01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:16.960 Is it really possible to And I've asked this question 1809 01:26:17.039 --> 01:26:19.000 to a lot of different guests, and I get a 1810 01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:22.319 bunch of different answers, But I don't know that it's 1811 01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:27.680 possible to change a player's neuropathways when they're in a 1812 01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:32.239 fight or flight situation, if they're used to fighting to fight, 1813 01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:34.479 if they're used to fighting for a couple of yards 1814 01:26:34.479 --> 01:26:36.840 to get down thrown out of bounds. I mean, there 1815 01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:41.000 are examples of quarterbacks who have learned this. I think 1816 01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:43.479 Steve Young is the one that was brought brought up 1817 01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:45.680 on the show not too long ago. But if you 1818 01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:48.000 watch the replay of the play where Cam got hurt 1819 01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:52.359 against Baylor, it was just nonsensical. He was running to 1820 01:26:52.439 --> 01:26:54.560 his left, the ball was in his offhand, it was 1821 01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:57.279 early down, it was good distance. There was no reason 1822 01:26:57.880 --> 01:26:59.800 to do what he did. I just I'm not I'm 1823 01:26:59.840 --> 01:27:01.760 not crack it on because I honestly feel like it 1824 01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:03.960 was fire or flight and he just fought because that's 1825 01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:05.880 who that's who he is. I mean, is there any 1826 01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:08.279 way to really rewire a guy's brain like that. 1827 01:27:09.399 --> 01:27:12.000 I don't know, that's a great question. I mean Cam's dad, 1828 01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:15.039 you know, said that Cam just has to be smarter 1829 01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:17.119 with a lot of things going forward, coming up a 1830 01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:20.399 knee injury. Kyle Whittingham said the same thing. Cam said 1831 01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:23.720 the same thing, but in the moment. Listen, man, these 1832 01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:26.000 these guys sign up to play this game. For a reason. 1833 01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:28.279 They're paid money now to play this game for a reason. 1834 01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:32.760 I understand that, you know, he has to find a 1835 01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:35.399 way to be more, as Kyle would say, judicious when 1836 01:27:35.399 --> 01:27:39.479 it comes to taking hits. That attempt out of bounds 1837 01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:42.119 was going nowhere, like you said, But I do think 1838 01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:44.159 the fight or flight thing is an interesting way of 1839 01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:48.279 looking at it, because listen, man, people in college football, no, 1840 01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:50.800 Cam Rising is the guy that gets knocked down and 1841 01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:54.159 keeps getting up. Like people forget about that insane hit 1842 01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:57.199 he took in that USC game in the Tact twelve 1843 01:27:57.239 --> 01:27:59.840 championship game, like a hit that would normally knock a 1844 01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:02.359 lot of people out of the game entirely, and Cam 1845 01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:05.520 got right back up. So I don't know if you 1846 01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:08.600 can rewire it. My guess is Andy Ludwig is doing 1847 01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:11.800 his damnest to try to rewire it, and maybe maybe 1848 01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:17.640 this kind of freak injury helps Cam understand that. Like, yeah, man, 1849 01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:19.560 just take a fifteen yard loss and move on. If 1850 01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:21.279 that means you have to go three and out after 1851 01:28:21.319 --> 01:28:23.840 a great start, shore, so be it. But your importance 1852 01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:27.920 to the longevity of the program is way more important 1853 01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:29.800 than going second and twenty five. 1854 01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:33.079 So if there's a piece of good news to Cam. 1855 01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:35.760 We're not playing a week ago up in Logan. It 1856 01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:39.000 is that we actually saw their QB two look like 1857 01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:41.880 he is up to the task and met the moment, 1858 01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:44.000 at least for one day on a Saturday up in 1859 01:28:44.039 --> 01:28:47.279 Logan against Utah State. It's different as you move towards 1860 01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:50.479 Big Twelve play, But with how bad it looked CK 1861 01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:54.119 last year with Bryson and then Nate and then Bryson 1862 01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:56.479 and Nate and then Nate and then Bryson, I think 1863 01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:59.920 there was a big sigh of relief because here's the thing, man, 1864 01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.279 I've said this four or five times. I'm gonna repeat it. 1865 01:29:02.840 --> 01:29:05.560 If I asked you to bet the sizeable Chris Camaraddie 1866 01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:09.520 Athletic paycheck on whether or not Cam is gonna play 1867 01:29:09.680 --> 01:29:12.479 every game the rest of the way, you would have 1868 01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:15.399 no choice but to bet against that based off the 1869 01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:18.760 data that we have. So I'm under the impression I 1870 01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:21.560 should say opinion. I'm under the I'm of the opinion 1871 01:29:22.359 --> 01:29:25.600 for Utah to win the Big Twelve, they need Cameron healthy. 1872 01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:27.279 But I think they're gonna win the Big twelve. 1873 01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:29.279 They're probably gonna need a little bit more from Isaac 1874 01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:32.439 at some point, right, So, I feel like he did 1875 01:29:32.479 --> 01:29:35.399 answer some questions last Saturday, but it's different if he's 1876 01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:37.800 called upon in Big twelve play. So what do you 1877 01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:40.880 make of where we find ourselves with Cam QB one 1878 01:29:40.920 --> 01:29:43.039 and Isaac QB two based off of what you saw 1879 01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:43.640 last week? 1880 01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:45.479 Yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth. 1881 01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:49.119 It's kind of convenient that the game after the Baylor 1882 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:52.239 game was Utah State for a whole bunch of reasons. 1883 01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:55.840 Like if we're talking about Cam hurting his hand, you know, 1884 01:29:56.399 --> 01:29:58.439 against Okay State and having to miss that game, and 1885 01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:02.000 then you're turning around playing Arizona home, that's a different beast. 1886 01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:04.680 But listen, man, there's a reason why Utah went after 1887 01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:07.600 Isaac Wilson. It's because they believe he has the upside. 1888 01:30:07.600 --> 01:30:10.439 There's a reason why Andy Ludwig and Kyle Whittingham made 1889 01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:14.479 this kid the number two quarterback, beating out a guy 1890 01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:16.239 who's been in the program for a few years and 1891 01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:19.239 Brandon Rose in a one time five star recruit like 1892 01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:24.960 Sam who cwared. So yeah, it's obviously necessary to have 1893 01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:26.720 a guy who can step in and win you games 1894 01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:29.800 when your star quarterback is down. But again, I just 1895 01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:32.960 think you have to find a way to keep Cam healthy. 1896 01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:36.960 And if Utah is going to win the Big Twelve 1897 01:30:37.039 --> 01:30:39.039 Conference in its first year, I just don't think they 1898 01:30:39.079 --> 01:30:41.039 can afford to lose Camp for any more games the 1899 01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:42.720 rest of the way. I just don't. I mean, I know, 1900 01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:48.760 their schedule lines up comparatively better compared to some other 1901 01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:52.239 folks in the conference. Like you avoid k State, you get, 1902 01:30:52.840 --> 01:30:56.479 you know, some decent challenges at home. Okay State is 1903 01:30:56.520 --> 01:31:01.319 easily their most difficult road game. But I understand that 1904 01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:04.359 people are stoked on the notion that Isaac Wilson can 1905 01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:06.279 spin it and make these kind of throws that a 1906 01:31:06.279 --> 01:31:09.279 lot of people rule about. But at the same time, 1907 01:31:10.239 --> 01:31:12.039 it's got to be Cam, and it's only going to 1908 01:31:12.119 --> 01:31:14.359 be Cam. And that's something that Utah fans know. It's 1909 01:31:14.359 --> 01:31:16.359 something that the staff knows, and it's something that even 1910 01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:19.399 the most random college football fan knows. It's like, if 1911 01:31:19.479 --> 01:31:22.199 Utah is going to be in the mix come November, 1912 01:31:22.439 --> 01:31:24.880 it's because Cam's got to play as many games as possible. 1913 01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:29.039 Yeah. No, I agree with that, let's move away from 1914 01:31:29.079 --> 01:31:32.000 the Cam stuff, but sick with the Utah youth stuff. 1915 01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:35.279 This week, the Salt Lake Tribune friend of the show, 1916 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:39.680 Jason Batakio Batakio excuse me, wrote about the four year 1917 01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:43.760 journey that Morgan Scalley has taken. I can't believe it 1918 01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:45.800 was four years ago. But you know what, COVID for me, 1919 01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:48.479 like time is such a mental construct. I remember nothing. 1920 01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:49.279 I had a man bond. 1921 01:31:49.279 --> 01:31:52.399 It was weird. So you know, you and I talked 1922 01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:54.279 about this when the whole thing went down, when the 1923 01:31:54.279 --> 01:31:58.840 text messages were revealed, and obviously something you cannot say 1924 01:31:58.920 --> 01:32:01.279 or do in any context no matter what. I think 1925 01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:03.119 everybody's on the same page with that. If you're not, 1926 01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:05.680 that's kind of odd. But what did you make of 1927 01:32:05.680 --> 01:32:08.399 what Jason wrote? Some of the anecdotes in there. He's 1928 01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:11.760 singing Sam Cook and now he gets the coach in 1929 01:32:11.840 --> 01:32:16.039 waiting reinstated in his employment contract. That happened a year ago. 1930 01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:18.079 We all found out about it a few months ago. 1931 01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:21.359 But as you watched from the sideline this whole thing unfold, 1932 01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:23.199 what are some of your takeaways? 1933 01:32:23.720 --> 01:32:25.640 Yeah, I justin did a great job, and I give 1934 01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:28.760 Morgan a ton of credit for being willing to sit 1935 01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:32.199 down with Jason and talk about it. I mean, everybody 1936 01:32:32.239 --> 01:32:39.199 remembers that that time being a very turbulent time within 1937 01:32:39.239 --> 01:32:41.119 the program. Because of that, I mean, a lot of 1938 01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:44.640 people viewed Morgan as he was the head coach in waiting, 1939 01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:47.560 you know, five years ago, I mean, and I think 1940 01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:51.800 all of this was going to give Morgan a chance 1941 01:32:51.840 --> 01:32:53.920 to do a lot of self reflection, as he did. 1942 01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:59.760 I'm always impressed with an interview subject's willingness to basically 1943 01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:02.119 open up their phone book to other people, like you know, 1944 01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:06.199 the fact that Morgan let Jason talk to siblings, talk 1945 01:33:06.279 --> 01:33:09.840 to former players, like friends, Like that stuff matters because 1946 01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:13.199 a lot of people have insight into what people have 1947 01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:16.119 gone through, and more often than not, I find the 1948 01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:18.720 most compelling information you find when you're writing a feature 1949 01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:22.119 of profile, somebody usually comes from not the main subject. So, 1950 01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:25.840 like I said, Jason's did a great job. He's been 1951 01:33:25.880 --> 01:33:28.079 a hell of a higher and he's done some great work. 1952 01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:31.039 And I credit Morgan for sitting down and talking to him, 1953 01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:33.720 because I'm sure that's the last thing he wanted to do. 1954 01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.560 But I understand, and I think he does too, that 1955 01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:39.439 this is part of the process of coming to grips 1956 01:33:39.439 --> 01:33:43.159 with a mistake, is that you have to lean into it. 1957 01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:45.039 You have to embrace it. You have to say raise 1958 01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:46.760 your hand and say I made a mistake, which Morgan 1959 01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:48.359 has done, so you have to give him kudos for that. 1960 01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:52.359 So Joe klad this week was just kind of discussing 1961 01:33:52.399 --> 01:33:55.319 the potential of what you Tah could do this year. 1962 01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:57.600 And he went into a little bit of a diet 1963 01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:01.239 tribe on his pod and kind of for you know, 1964 01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:05.600 college football fans. He may not know entirely the Kyle 1965 01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:08.359 winningham resume here in Utah, you know, from the Whack 1966 01:34:08.439 --> 01:34:11.520 Mount and West Conference PAC twelve winning championships. Rose Bulls like, 1967 01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:15.359 he did a good job of articulating everything Kyle's done 1968 01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:18.520 here as the coach, you know, prior to de coordinator 1969 01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:20.720 assistant and kind of went through the entire thing. 1970 01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:22.720 And while we're talking about. 1971 01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:27.279 Coaching, part of me does believe that it was calculated 1972 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:30.319 to announce the Morgan news publicly prior to this season. 1973 01:34:30.439 --> 01:34:32.680 I don't know that I'm not reporting it. Nobody has 1974 01:34:32.720 --> 01:34:34.720 told me that behind closed doors, But part of me 1975 01:34:34.760 --> 01:34:38.119 has always believed, all right, something there's more than meets 1976 01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:41.359 the eye here and Klat's ole thing and this was 1977 01:34:41.439 --> 01:34:43.800 just a guess. And since you're you know, you've been 1978 01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:45.760 around the program for a number of years. You'll be 1979 01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:49.000 good on this And the when is Kyle going to leave? 1980 01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:52.119 Topic is not new on SPORTSTOC Radio in Salt Lake. 1981 01:34:52.159 --> 01:34:54.159 But they win the Big Twelve, if they go to 1982 01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:56.960 the CFP, if for the first time, coach Win has 1983 01:34:56.960 --> 01:34:59.640 a chance legitimately to coach his team for a shot 1984 01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:04.000 at winning national championship. Is that the ending Kyle's been 1985 01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:06.680 waiting for? Is that the Okay, it's time? And this 1986 01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:09.840 is why we announced Morgan earlier today. Like if all 1987 01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:12.840 that goes down, does it feel like that's the final 1988 01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:13.479 Swan song? 1989 01:35:13.560 --> 01:35:14.279 The last dance? 1990 01:35:14.319 --> 01:35:17.560 And Kyle rides off in his motorcycle this sleeveless T shirt. 1991 01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:21.640 You know, I mean I asked Kyle that this preseason 1992 01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:23.720 fall campus said like, is this the last thing on 1993 01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:26.920 your bucket list? And Kyle said He's really good at, 1994 01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:29.119 you know, knowing how to dodge questions. He says, I 1995 01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:30.920 don't know if I have a bucket list, which I 1996 01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:34.199 don't believe him. But Kyle's smart enough to not say like, yeah, 1997 01:35:34.199 --> 01:35:35.560 this is the last thing I want to do before 1998 01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:38.920 I hang it up. I don't know if it was calculated. 1999 01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:41.439 I know that Kyle believes that Morgan should be the 2000 01:35:41.439 --> 01:35:43.600 guy to succeed him. Kyle told me that on the record, 2001 01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:45.920 like two years ago before I went on paternity leave. 2002 01:35:46.039 --> 01:35:50.720 So that's that's not a surprise by any means. It's 2003 01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:52.479 just like you said, we found out a little bit 2004 01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:57.039 later than expected. I at this point, the fact that 2005 01:35:57.159 --> 01:35:59.960 Kyle hasn't hung him up Spence, Like, I don't know 2006 01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:02.479 if like he's tired of it, to be honest with you, 2007 01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:06.920 and maybe he's just be been reinvigorated by this new conference, 2008 01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:09.199 this new schedule, this new challenge, the fact that the 2009 01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:12.479 playoff has expanded to twelve teams, which is something that 2010 01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:15.840 he's been a huge proponent of and justifiably so. But 2011 01:36:17.199 --> 01:36:19.119 if they win, if they win the Big Twelve, if 2012 01:36:19.119 --> 01:36:22.319 they get a top four seed, if they get past 2013 01:36:22.600 --> 01:36:29.279 the first round, I don't know, man, Like you're talking 2014 01:36:29.359 --> 01:36:33.960 about a guy who is, you know, addicted to the 2015 01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:36.399 feeling of winning and competing, and Kyle would be the 2016 01:36:36.439 --> 01:36:38.399 first person to tell you that. So like, if they 2017 01:36:38.399 --> 01:36:42.199 get that close, then is he even more compelled to say, Hey, yeah, 2018 01:36:42.359 --> 01:36:45.159 maybe we lost Cam, but we're always good on defense. 2019 01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:48.840 Isaac Wilson has a huge upside, the Big Twelve maybe 2020 01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:52.560 isn't as great as people think it is. Depending on 2021 01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:54.760 how the rest of the season shakes out, maybe I'll 2022 01:36:54.800 --> 01:36:56.840 give it another year, and then maybe after that I'll 2023 01:36:56.840 --> 01:36:59.560 give it another years. It's interesting, Like I think I've 2024 01:36:59.560 --> 01:37:02.119 said this show a million times, when Kyle does hang 2025 01:37:02.119 --> 01:37:04.319 it up, nobody's going to see it coming. He's not 2026 01:37:04.359 --> 01:37:06.760 going to do it at the press conference after they 2027 01:37:07.359 --> 01:37:09.800 know win the Big Twelve championship, if they win that. 2028 01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:11.640 He's not going to do it at a bowl game 2029 01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:13.640 or a playoff game. He's going to do it when 2030 01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:14.600 nobody's expecting it. 2031 01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:17.680 I want to ask you, since you've been down there, 2032 01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:20.439 since you've written on him, since you've interviewed him, and 2033 01:37:20.520 --> 01:37:23.159 people down in Boulder. I heard more than a few 2034 01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:27.359 people last week say that if Colorado lost to Colorado State, 2035 01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:29.960 and that's a rivalry game and it's a G five 2036 01:37:30.079 --> 01:37:32.720 verse P four and so Colorado was only a seven 2037 01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:35.079 point favor they go there, they handle their business. But 2038 01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:36.760 I heard a lot of people say last week, like, 2039 01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:39.720 if they lose to Colorado State, because it hasn't looked 2040 01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:43.279 good for them, people will start asking legitimate questions about 2041 01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:45.840 Dion and whether or not this makes sense. Now they 2042 01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:49.520 get Baylor at home, they're only a two point favorite. 2043 01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:52.920 Does it feel like the prime shine I didn't even 2044 01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:54.560 mean to make that rhyme. Didn't mean to make that 2045 01:37:54.680 --> 01:37:56.119 rhyme with the other two look at me, I'm on 2046 01:37:56.159 --> 01:37:58.840 fire today. Does it feel like the shine on Dion 2047 01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:02.279 is fading a little bit and it's the shiny new toy? 2048 01:38:02.319 --> 01:38:04.479 Do you as someone who kind of gets it down 2049 01:38:04.520 --> 01:38:06.319 there in a way that I don't because you've been there? 2050 01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:09.199 How safe is he? Regardless of results? They have not 2051 01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:11.239 been a P four team in over a year. Okay, 2052 01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:13.720 so they're looking for the you know, a little bit 2053 01:38:13.720 --> 01:38:16.840 of a spark for folks to be reminded that maybe 2054 01:38:16.840 --> 01:38:18.600 he is good at this because a lot of people 2055 01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:19.199 think that he's not. 2056 01:38:19.399 --> 01:38:23.640 Zek I would say there, he's fine. Locally, he's beloved 2057 01:38:23.880 --> 01:38:28.760 I think in Colorado. At Colorado he made a very 2058 01:38:29.039 --> 01:38:33.720 very irrelevant program relevant on a number of levels. He 2059 01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:36.720 is a guy that moves the needle locally and nationally. 2060 01:38:37.680 --> 01:38:40.880 But I don't know within the walls of the athletic program. 2061 01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:43.760 If Colorado drops to one and two and loses its 2062 01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:47.560 two high profile rivalry games to start the season. I 2063 01:38:47.560 --> 01:38:49.239 don't know if there's going to be more pressure on 2064 01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:52.680 Dion because where was Colorado before. I understand that the 2065 01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:56.000 results haven't been there, and I understand that you talk 2066 01:38:56.039 --> 01:38:57.600 a lot and there has to be some sort of 2067 01:38:57.680 --> 01:39:00.560 backing behind it. But they still have two top picks, 2068 01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:03.079 and anytime you have two top ten picks, people are 2069 01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:04.800 going to want to watch you play. And people are 2070 01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:07.479 still watching Colorado play even if they lose. So I 2071 01:39:07.479 --> 01:39:10.199 think if we're talking about kind of a barometer of 2072 01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:15.159 how people may view Colorado under Dion, I mean they 2073 01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:16.920 were still like I think they were the second most 2074 01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:18.840 watched team through the end of the season last year, 2075 01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:21.359 even after the wheels fell off. So they're in the 2076 01:39:21.359 --> 01:39:24.239 Big twelve, they have, you know, some new opponents ahead 2077 01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:27.399 of them. I don't think Dion is on the hot seat. 2078 01:39:27.479 --> 01:39:29.920 I don't think he ever really will be unless they 2079 01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:33.000 really go off the rails. But again, you have two 2080 01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:35.279 top ten players on your team, and one of them 2081 01:39:35.399 --> 01:39:37.000 is a son, and one of them plays the quarterback. 2082 01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:39.279 The other guy plays the other most exciting position on 2083 01:39:39.279 --> 01:39:41.159 the team, So people are gonna want to watch you play. 2084 01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:45.640 All right, Big night Tomorrow night in Provo it's a 2085 01:39:45.640 --> 01:39:50.239 wide out and they're giving away No it is what 2086 01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:52.479 it's a wide out. You need to wear white to 2087 01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:54.760 the game. I'm doing my job as a sports talk 2088 01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:58.279 radio host to inform the market that it's a wide 2089 01:39:58.279 --> 01:40:00.800 out in profo. What's wrong with that. I'm trying to 2090 01:40:00.800 --> 01:40:02.880 be part of the community. 2091 01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:05.000 Okay, keep going, all right. 2092 01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:08.640 In addition to the white out, there's also an alternate 2093 01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:12.039 cougar tail available. You can get the Classic That's what 2094 01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:15.439 I'm saying. You can get the Classic Maple. However, they're 2095 01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:18.600 offering vanilla to match the white out. So it's a 2096 01:40:18.600 --> 01:40:21.760 big night tomorrow night. Ultimately, there's also a football game 2097 01:40:21.840 --> 01:40:24.920 despite the chaos that's going on around the community. If 2098 01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:27.760 they get this done, ck, if they're able to pull 2099 01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:29.840 it off, touchdown under dog. We had a rod on 2100 01:40:29.880 --> 01:40:32.000 the show this week. They're four and oh they're going 2101 01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:33.720 to be in the top twenty five if they get 2102 01:40:33.720 --> 01:40:36.520 this done. What does the conversation next week sound like 2103 01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:38.159 around BYU football. 2104 01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:40.319 Well, I'm going to ask you to put your journalist's 2105 01:40:40.359 --> 01:40:41.800 hat on, and I've been the kind of out of 2106 01:40:41.800 --> 01:40:44.119 the loop. What is the status they're running backs is? 2107 01:40:44.279 --> 01:40:46.760 You know, if LJ Martin or the other kid are 2108 01:40:47.119 --> 01:40:48.640 scheduled to play. Are they still out? 2109 01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:52.039 I believe both LJ and Hinckley Rapati, the number two, 2110 01:40:52.119 --> 01:40:54.520 are out. I believe that they're out tomorrow. 2111 01:40:54.600 --> 01:40:56.079 That's tough. Yeah, that's a tough one. 2112 01:40:56.199 --> 01:40:56.399 LJ. 2113 01:40:56.479 --> 01:41:01.199 Martin makes that offense go at a different level, has 2114 01:41:01.239 --> 01:41:04.319 the gunslinger mentality. He has to cut down on the 2115 01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:07.359 very stupid turnovers, which he tends to do at least 2116 01:41:07.359 --> 01:41:11.319 once a game. But I've been very impressed with By's defense. 2117 01:41:11.319 --> 01:41:11.479 Man. 2118 01:41:11.479 --> 01:41:13.840 I mean, it's a Kialani defense. You have Kilani and 2119 01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:15.880 j Hill on one side of the ball. Those are 2120 01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:18.239 two very smart dudes who know how to coach defense. 2121 01:41:18.680 --> 01:41:20.840 K State is just going to want to try to 2122 01:41:20.920 --> 01:41:24.319 do to everybody what BYU did once upon a time 2123 01:41:24.359 --> 01:41:27.439 with Taysom Hills, use their quarterback, who is a tremendous athlete, 2124 01:41:27.439 --> 01:41:30.560 to run all over you. I do think BYU will 2125 01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:34.840 probably have a scheme in place to slow down Avery Johnson. 2126 01:41:36.039 --> 01:41:40.920 They have dudes. BYU has dudes up front, and they 2127 01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:43.520 have one of the best linebacker corps in the Big twelve. 2128 01:41:44.079 --> 01:41:47.520 They have guys to hang with this kid. To me, 2129 01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:53.920 it's I'm gonna be basic. Can Jake Reetzloff avoid the 2130 01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:56.640 pick at his own ten yard line? Can he hold 2131 01:41:56.680 --> 01:41:59.279 onto the ball when he goes off and scrambles? If 2132 01:41:59.399 --> 01:42:02.479 BYU can win the turnover battle, if Retzloft can have 2133 01:42:02.520 --> 01:42:04.800 a good game, I think they'll be in it. I 2134 01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:06.399 think Case State is a very good team. I mean, 2135 01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:10.439 there's a realistic there's a reality that Case State wins 2136 01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:12.520 a big twelve. You know they're that good. But I 2137 01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:17.760 do think it is a very very demanding task to 2138 01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:20.439 ask a team to go play at Leveelle Edwards Stateium 2139 01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:23.479 at night in a wide out where there's cougar tails. 2140 01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:25.840 If that place gets rocking, it's a very difficult place 2141 01:42:25.880 --> 01:42:28.960 to play. So I think YU can do it. It's 2142 01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:31.199 just going to be contingent on if it's quarterback can 2143 01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:32.680 avoid the silly mistakes. 2144 01:42:33.119 --> 01:42:34.960 It's a big night, man, it's a big night. It's 2145 01:42:34.960 --> 01:42:37.000 not just a wide out in cougar tails. It's a 2146 01:42:37.039 --> 01:42:39.840 wide out in cougar tails with Vanilla Frost team. So 2147 01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:41.000 let's just get this right. 2148 01:42:41.640 --> 01:42:44.000 I wonder, I wonder what the calorie difference is with 2149 01:42:44.079 --> 01:42:46.000 the Vanilla should look into that. 2150 01:42:46.199 --> 01:42:49.840 Yep porters on it. He's my ESPN stats and info. 2151 01:42:49.960 --> 01:42:52.920 All right, final final thing for you today and then 2152 01:42:52.920 --> 01:42:55.439 we'll set you loose to get back at it. The 2153 01:42:55.520 --> 01:42:57.640 update with the lads, they were able to grab one 2154 01:42:57.640 --> 01:43:00.520 on Wednesday. They're up to They're up to second because 2155 01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:02.479 they had a bunch of they had all the results 2156 01:43:02.479 --> 01:43:05.880 go their way on Wednesday. A couple of moments with 2157 01:43:05.960 --> 01:43:08.720 some of these new players indicating some pretty exciting quality 2158 01:43:08.760 --> 01:43:11.119 if they can kind of settle in. So the good 2159 01:43:11.239 --> 01:43:13.479 the bad before I set you loose on our lads 2160 01:43:13.479 --> 01:43:16.079 on RSL very good. 2161 01:43:17.800 --> 01:43:20.760 I think you can make an argument that Anderson Julio 2162 01:43:20.920 --> 01:43:26.359 has sneakily been this team's MVP this year. Considering where 2163 01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:30.479 this team was with the loss of Chico Orongo to 2164 01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:34.880 suspension and injury and just the drop off statistically, Anderson 2165 01:43:34.960 --> 01:43:36.760 Julio has been a savior for this team. I mean, 2166 01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:39.960 he's been very, very good. He's produced at a level 2167 01:43:40.119 --> 01:43:42.159 that I mean, he's always been that kind of quote 2168 01:43:42.199 --> 01:43:45.079 unquote super sub, but you know, he was always a 2169 01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:48.359 guy that was looked upon as put him in at 2170 01:43:48.359 --> 01:43:51.439 the sixtieth minute and let him tire out the back line. 2171 01:43:51.920 --> 01:43:53.199 He's playing on another level. 2172 01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:53.439 Man. 2173 01:43:54.399 --> 01:43:57.199 Kudos to him. Rsel still has to find a way 2174 01:43:57.239 --> 01:44:01.520 to become more gold dangerous with its star players on 2175 01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:03.760 the field. I mean, like you're talking about the other night, 2176 01:44:03.800 --> 01:44:06.760 they score three goals. They're without you show Aroango, and 2177 01:44:06.800 --> 01:44:10.279 they have Diego Diego Luna and Diego Gounsalvez on the bench. 2178 01:44:10.880 --> 01:44:12.439 They have to find a way to get those three 2179 01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:16.720 playing together in lockstep the way that Luna Orongo and 2180 01:44:16.720 --> 01:44:19.239 Andres Goomis were earlier on in the year. Otherwise RSL 2181 01:44:19.319 --> 01:44:21.039 is not going to have a very long playoff run, 2182 01:44:21.680 --> 01:44:24.000 and it's jumbled at the top. Man, it's always this way, 2183 01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:26.640 like you're gonna You're gonna see RSL go up to second, 2184 01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:28.319 and if they have a couple of down weeks, they 2185 01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:30.520 can drop down to fifth or six. That's how tough 2186 01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:34.479 the Western Conferences, and that's how much parody is in MLS. 2187 01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:37.039 The bad, I would say is their defense continues to 2188 01:44:37.079 --> 01:44:40.560 look really shoddy. They give up some really silly goals 2189 01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:44.720 and the goalkeeping play man woof. I know, Gavin Beavers 2190 01:44:44.760 --> 01:44:46.479 is a teenager and he's got a lot to learn. 2191 01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:50.439 But between the Howlers that Zach mcmass, Zach mcmaff has 2192 01:44:50.479 --> 01:44:52.199 had this year, and then that one the other night. 2193 01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:56.079 You gotta have some very very strong goalkeeper play in 2194 01:44:56.199 --> 01:44:58.359 order to have a run in the playoffs. As RSLO 2195 01:44:58.399 --> 01:45:00.119 knows all too well when Nick Rimondo was on, I'm 2196 01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:02.600 a heater. Rso always had a chance. So they have 2197 01:45:02.640 --> 01:45:03.560 to figure that out soon. 2198 01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:05.640 Cek, you are the man. 2199 01:45:05.840 --> 01:45:08.800 Have a great weekend and we'll chat toon. 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But we'll update you before we say good night. 2229 01:46:34.520 --> 01:46:36.479 There's a ton they just keep rolling in. Looks like 2230 01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:40.399 Justin Herbert may not play the Rams, and the Niners 2231 01:46:40.399 --> 01:46:43.520 are playing without like the majority of their good offensive 2232 01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:45.359 skill position players. So we'll get to some of that 2233 01:46:45.399 --> 01:46:48.039 stuff before we say a night at six o'clock. 2234 01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:50.119 But let's talk more college football. 2235 01:46:50.640 --> 01:46:54.159 Consistent guest on the show, former ute, former NFL player, 2236 01:46:54.199 --> 01:46:57.720 You know him, you love him. Robert Johnson on a Friday, Roajo, 2237 01:46:57.760 --> 01:46:58.439 Happy Friday, man. 2238 01:46:58.439 --> 01:47:00.199 How we doing so? 2239 01:47:00.279 --> 01:47:00.760 I'm doing good. 2240 01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:02.359 How y'all doing doing well? Doing well? 2241 01:47:02.399 --> 01:47:03.319 I appreciate the time. 2242 01:47:03.479 --> 01:47:06.079 So let's, uh, let's kind of look back before we 2243 01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:06.840 look forward. 2244 01:47:07.439 --> 01:47:08.600 Uh So Utah State. 2245 01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:11.039 Last week, Utah rolls up to Logan for the first 2246 01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:14.239 time in twelve years. They get it done. Tell me, Rojoe, 2247 01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:16.720 what you saw from Isaac Wilson QB two. What sort 2248 01:47:16.760 --> 01:47:18.239 of questions did he answer for you? 2249 01:47:19.239 --> 01:47:20.840 Well, I mean, the biggest question I feel like he 2250 01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:23.920 answered was that he's he's a baller, he a gamer, 2251 01:47:24.239 --> 01:47:27.119 he is a gamer. And then it took it took 2252 01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:29.279 a couple of series before we started getting into the 2253 01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:32.039 start getting into the tool of things. But I'm really 2254 01:47:32.039 --> 01:47:34.239 happy about our future or will we stand with everything? 2255 01:47:34.239 --> 01:47:36.720 I'm very, very happy and proud of him and proud 2256 01:47:36.720 --> 01:47:39.279 of the coaches at least opening up sub which was great. 2257 01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:43.079 Were you concerned it all after that slow start? You know, 2258 01:47:43.119 --> 01:47:45.960 a lot of Youte fans fourteen three looking around, you know, 2259 01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:48.359 no Cam Rising, no karn Reid. I think there was 2260 01:47:48.439 --> 01:47:52.279 some certainly some nerves firing up around here in the community. 2261 01:47:52.319 --> 01:47:54.520 Were you concerned it all after that slow start from 2262 01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:55.479 the utes last week? 2263 01:47:56.359 --> 01:48:00.000 Heck, yeah, well like you got have you got a post? 2264 01:48:00.119 --> 01:48:03.359 If you've got a utah, you post or your heartbeat 2265 01:48:03.560 --> 01:48:06.479 Utah Youto definitely was nervous about it, or more like 2266 01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:10.640 just concerned about like last game, how it went. Whereas 2267 01:48:10.680 --> 01:48:13.680 he like popped into the game and then where he started, 2268 01:48:13.800 --> 01:48:17.239 it was like, oh, here we go. But he got better. 2269 01:48:17.279 --> 01:48:20.720 And I always talk about that during the summertime of 2270 01:48:20.840 --> 01:48:23.239 like like when it comes to summer ball, it's like 2271 01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:24.840 I want to see what the live bullets look like. 2272 01:48:24.840 --> 01:48:27.079 I want to see what going against the opponent that 2273 01:48:27.119 --> 01:48:29.079 don't wear the same colors you and when he's coming 2274 01:48:29.119 --> 01:48:31.439 to attack you, how do you react. So it was 2275 01:48:31.479 --> 01:48:33.399 really really cool to kind of sit back and watch 2276 01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:35.880 him and I'm just happy and proud of the way 2277 01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:38.119 that he did it, which gave us all hope of 2278 01:48:38.239 --> 01:48:40.840 like we got a good future. We got it's a 2279 01:48:40.840 --> 01:48:41.720 good plan behind this. 2280 01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:42.520 You know. 2281 01:48:42.760 --> 01:48:44.920 A lot of the attention, of course, is on the 2282 01:48:44.960 --> 01:48:47.640 health of the quarterback because it's just so important as 2283 01:48:47.640 --> 01:48:47.880 you know. 2284 01:48:48.039 --> 01:48:49.800 But Rojo, you're a defensive guy. 2285 01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:52.920 What does this defense miss when Karine Reid isn't out there. 2286 01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:57.720 I feel like that missed a lot. But then I 2287 01:48:58.319 --> 01:49:01.359 was looking on Twitter and Pop on something. I said 2288 01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:04.159 that we was trying some new things on defense at 2289 01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:06.039 the beginning of the half. He was trying stuff. We 2290 01:49:06.399 --> 01:49:07.840 want to see what we could do, and I think 2291 01:49:08.159 --> 01:49:10.479 we was already kind of planning to get ready for 2292 01:49:11.039 --> 01:49:14.760 Oklahoma State this week. So our defensive plan wasn't really 2293 01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:17.960 bad at the beginning, but it was more of trying things, 2294 01:49:17.960 --> 01:49:19.880 if that is true, and you see we locked it 2295 01:49:19.880 --> 01:49:20.960 down towards the second half. 2296 01:49:22.239 --> 01:49:23.920 Yeah, I was actually going to ask you about that 2297 01:49:24.079 --> 01:49:29.119 because the conversation was Bryson Barnes, Utah States quarterback, of course, 2298 01:49:29.239 --> 01:49:32.560 was down here for a number of years, and they 2299 01:49:33.439 --> 01:49:36.119 were a little bit concerned that Bryson knows the personnel 2300 01:49:36.119 --> 01:49:38.000 and knows the scheme. So it was interesting to hear 2301 01:49:38.079 --> 01:49:41.319 coach Wit and Coach Gally talked about how at the 2302 01:49:41.359 --> 01:49:44.319 start of the game they were trying to change it 2303 01:49:44.399 --> 01:49:46.439 up to keep Bryce and Barnes off their heels, but 2304 01:49:46.520 --> 01:49:49.600 when they in Kyle's words, when they went back to 2305 01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:51.159 doing what they always do. 2306 01:49:51.720 --> 01:49:54.520 They settled in and were dominant. You played in the system. 2307 01:49:54.560 --> 01:49:57.359 What does it mean when coach Wit says we settled 2308 01:49:57.359 --> 01:50:00.000 back into doing what we always did on defense. 2309 01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:03.760 Is a big sign that growth. That's what I would say, 2310 01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:05.880 because at the end of the day, our scheme is 2311 01:50:05.880 --> 01:50:09.680 the NFL scheme, and when it comes to opponents that 2312 01:50:09.720 --> 01:50:11.760 you play against, you're going to see it like it's 2313 01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:13.520 the same looks no matter what. Like you can get 2314 01:50:13.520 --> 01:50:16.039 that cover one, cover two, Cover three, cover four, you 2315 01:50:16.079 --> 01:50:19.119 know that those are just common looks. But it's one 2316 01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:21.000 of those we gonna line up against you and we're 2317 01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:22.960 gonna try to figure out can you stop? Can you 2318 01:50:22.960 --> 01:50:24.920 stop what we're doing, or even if we show what 2319 01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:26.560 we're doing, can you at least get around it. So 2320 01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:28.479 I was really happy that we went back to our 2321 01:50:28.520 --> 01:50:30.880 bread and butter and show how strong we are with 2322 01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:31.760 our defense. 2323 01:50:32.560 --> 01:50:35.239 So of course this and it's still early, still early 2324 01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:38.079 in the season, you know, and I tell college football 2325 01:50:38.119 --> 01:50:40.560 fans this all the time. I mean, everybody just misses 2326 01:50:40.640 --> 01:50:43.520 college football so much and then it comes back and 2327 01:50:43.680 --> 01:50:46.479 we blink and it's over. But it is still early. 2328 01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:49.119 But I wanted to get from you Rojoe, because you 2329 01:50:49.199 --> 01:50:52.119 hear college coaches talk all the time like the only 2330 01:50:52.199 --> 01:50:55.439 thing we can do is win the day. The only 2331 01:50:55.479 --> 01:50:57.800 thing we can improve between this week. It's all we 2332 01:50:57.840 --> 01:50:59.640 can do is to improve between this week and the 2333 01:50:59.640 --> 01:51:03.359 next week through three weeks. From your vantage point, is 2334 01:51:03.520 --> 01:51:06.199 Utah improving the way they need to week by week 2335 01:51:06.279 --> 01:51:07.479 to compete in this conference? 2336 01:51:08.439 --> 01:51:10.960 Heck yeah, we are. I mean to go to go 2337 01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:12.840 at the beginning of the season where everybody was really 2338 01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:15.039 saying we're gonna win the Big Twelve and then now 2339 01:51:15.119 --> 01:51:17.960 seeing how we how we're going to me that's one 2340 01:51:17.960 --> 01:51:20.520 of the biggest things of like showing that the team 2341 01:51:20.640 --> 01:51:23.560 is loaded, the team is ready to perform when it 2342 01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:26.640 comes to big games. So this week is a big game. 2343 01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:28.560 It's a huge game. So I feel like in my 2344 01:51:28.640 --> 01:51:30.479 heart that this is this is one of those games 2345 01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:33.359 where we're gonna know exactly where we stand at of 2346 01:51:33.439 --> 01:51:35.439 like if the team is strong enough or is the 2347 01:51:35.439 --> 01:51:36.680 team we need to just need to get a little 2348 01:51:36.680 --> 01:51:38.560 bit better and send us off the season very very 2349 01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:40.159 strong in the Big Twelve. 2350 01:51:40.319 --> 01:51:42.960 So, Rojoe, the fact of the matter is Rashul Faizon 2351 01:51:43.159 --> 01:51:46.119 goes for a buck fifteen and as a team Utah 2352 01:51:46.159 --> 01:51:49.439 State hangs three eighty five on the Utah defense, so 2353 01:51:50.119 --> 01:51:52.840 they were able to gain yardage. A lot of it 2354 01:51:52.880 --> 01:51:54.760 were you know, chunk plays here or there, but they 2355 01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:57.119 were able to gain a lot of yards on the 2356 01:51:57.119 --> 01:52:00.920 ground with Rasul Feizan Ali Gordon the Dolk Walker a 2357 01:52:01.039 --> 01:52:04.840 year ago Alan Bowman, just like Cam Rising is a 2358 01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:08.960 seventh year college quarterback. What does Utah's defense need to 2359 01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:11.479 improve upon this week when they're going to be on 2360 01:52:11.520 --> 01:52:14.000 the road against a better team than Utah State to 2361 01:52:14.079 --> 01:52:17.000 make sure that, you know, Oklahoma State doesn't get off 2362 01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:19.039 the way that Utah State was able to at times 2363 01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:19.600 last week. 2364 01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:22.640 For me, I feel like the ball control is one 2365 01:52:22.640 --> 01:52:25.239 of the biggest things were going into a hostile environment 2366 01:52:25.279 --> 01:52:28.920 because I've heard about Stillwater still water a lot. So 2367 01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:31.600 like they have their fans, they have a big call 2368 01:52:31.680 --> 01:52:33.720 in but on top of the big calling, the way 2369 01:52:33.760 --> 01:52:36.079 to outfield is that if we control the ball, we 2370 01:52:36.119 --> 01:52:38.399 can control whether we going to get down to that 2371 01:52:38.520 --> 01:52:40.439 last position or a bigger position. 2372 01:52:41.279 --> 01:52:41.399 No. 2373 01:52:43.119 --> 01:52:44.960 So so it's one of those things. Sorry, my son, 2374 01:52:44.960 --> 01:52:46.640 I'm I'm in a supermarket right now. See that's how 2375 01:52:46.640 --> 01:52:46.840 I know. 2376 01:52:47.520 --> 01:52:47.840 There you go. 2377 01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:50.199 I'm in a supermarket trying to shop with my son 2378 01:52:50.239 --> 01:52:53.159 and they going crazy. But but yeah, like exactly what 2379 01:52:53.199 --> 01:52:54.920 I was just mentioning is that if we can go 2380 01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:56.479 down there and control that ball and do what we 2381 01:52:56.520 --> 01:52:59.279 need to do, as in not having those turnovers early 2382 01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:02.119 and being able to get first down, first down, first downs, 2383 01:53:02.399 --> 01:53:04.840 it could be a really good setup of like a 2384 01:53:04.920 --> 01:53:07.239 last possession type of setup. And I feel like we 2385 01:53:07.239 --> 01:53:09.720 can win last possessions because Coach would always make sure 2386 01:53:09.720 --> 01:53:12.640 that we're ready for those grinder games. 2387 01:53:12.680 --> 01:53:15.880 I'll say, all right, since you're with your boys grocery shop, 2388 01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:17.720 and I'll set you loose, but I'll ask you one 2389 01:53:17.720 --> 01:53:20.880 more question here, because again, Oli Gordon is a very 2390 01:53:20.920 --> 01:53:24.319 capable back in Oklahoma State so far has faced defenses 2391 01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:27.119 that stacked the box and that's why he's not off 2392 01:53:27.119 --> 01:53:30.159 to a great start. They do have a capable, balanced quarterback. 2393 01:53:30.359 --> 01:53:33.279 But walk us through Rojo before I say you lose schematically, 2394 01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:36.000 How you stop a team that has the rushing attack 2395 01:53:36.079 --> 01:53:39.279 like Oklahoma State is capable of having, even though they 2396 01:53:39.279 --> 01:53:41.880 haven't showed it so far this year entirely. 2397 01:53:43.960 --> 01:53:46.920 Turns into that quarterback. That quarterback has been there so long. 2398 01:53:47.239 --> 01:53:49.159 I'll put the balls over into his hand, whereas like 2399 01:53:49.199 --> 01:53:53.079 make them throw. And to me, our secondary is great. 2400 01:53:53.520 --> 01:53:56.720 We have weapons on secondary wise as well as linebackers wise. 2401 01:53:56.720 --> 01:53:58.920 We have weapons. Now we can force them to throw 2402 01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:02.439 the ball. It could be a win on our end 2403 01:54:02.439 --> 01:54:05.000 for what I feel, because the running back is so good. 2404 01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:07.359 You're right, their running back is very, very very good. 2405 01:54:07.439 --> 01:54:09.560 So he could bust loose every time you get the ball. 2406 01:54:09.600 --> 01:54:11.199 But the goal is to stack the box and let's 2407 01:54:11.199 --> 01:54:14.600 see what that quarterback can do. We're trying to read 2408 01:54:14.800 --> 01:54:18.000 read a secondary or read a defense where nobody knows 2409 01:54:18.039 --> 01:54:20.880 who's coming. Don't nobody know who's running Cover three weren't 2410 01:54:20.920 --> 01:54:23.439 running pressed what I seen those run last week against 2411 01:54:23.479 --> 01:54:25.000 Utah State. I got a feeling that we're going to 2412 01:54:25.039 --> 01:54:27.439 test out some different looks and try to make him 2413 01:54:27.439 --> 01:54:29.000 hold the ball a little longer so than our d 2414 01:54:29.079 --> 01:54:30.960 line can get there and get the sacks that we 2415 01:54:31.039 --> 01:54:34.279 need because to getting a negative play it wins games 2416 01:54:34.279 --> 01:54:34.840 from what I see. 2417 01:54:35.039 --> 01:54:37.119 All right, ro Joe, go chase your boys man, enjoy 2418 01:54:37.159 --> 01:54:38.279 the game tomorrow with chat soon. 2419 01:54:38.319 --> 01:54:40.039 All right, Hey, thank you so much. 2420 01:54:40.720 --> 01:54:44.840 You all right. Robert Johnson, former Utah defensive back, played 2421 01:54:44.840 --> 01:54:47.359 a number of years in the NFL always pre appreciate 2422 01:54:47.439 --> 01:54:51.000 road Jo's time. Of course, really interesting dynamics of play 2423 01:54:51.079 --> 01:54:54.840 coming out tomorrow. It's a two pm kick on Fox. 2424 01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:56.720 Remember you can watch it on Fox. Of course, you 2425 01:54:56.760 --> 01:54:59.359 can listen to the game on our radio station beginning 2426 01:54:59.359 --> 01:55:02.960 at ten o'clock with pregame covers with Porter Larson and 2427 01:55:03.079 --> 01:55:05.920 Jordan Winn live at Bout Time Pub at Jordan Commons. 2428 01:55:06.439 --> 01:55:10.239 You've got two twenty year coaches and coach Winting Mike Gundy, 2429 01:55:10.319 --> 01:55:13.560 two seventh year quarterbacks and camera Rising and Alan Bowman. 2430 01:55:14.520 --> 01:55:17.399 So far, OSU hasn't got much out of Oli Gordon 2431 01:55:17.439 --> 01:55:19.880 the second last year. He's averaging three point five yards 2432 01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:23.600 of Kerry only point nine before contact. He's getting hit hard. 2433 01:55:24.159 --> 01:55:27.319 Osu ranks one hundred and fifteenth in rushing success rate 2434 01:55:28.079 --> 01:55:32.239 so far. But ultimately the quarterback Bowman has been able 2435 01:55:32.279 --> 01:55:34.039 to play pretty well and they've they've been able to 2436 01:55:34.039 --> 01:55:38.279 stay clean. They survived against Arkansas. They should have lost 2437 01:55:38.279 --> 01:55:41.399 that game. Okay, State has won seventh straight home games 2438 01:55:41.479 --> 01:55:44.039 versus AP ranked opponents. So it's a tough one for you, 2439 01:55:44.119 --> 01:55:47.720 Tah tomorrow. All right, the show is over, Desperate today. 2440 01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:50.359 We'll be back on Monday final segment of the show. 2441 01:55:51.199 --> 01:55:54.840 On this Friday afternoon. Man, what a gorgeous day. Weekend 2442 01:55:54.920 --> 01:55:59.239 is supposed to be. Phenomenal, fantastic, so fun show today. 2443 01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:00.880 We're gonna give you a six pack of picks before 2444 01:56:00.880 --> 01:56:03.680 we get out of here. Porter, what do you outside 2445 01:56:03.680 --> 01:56:08.560 of grinding on tape? I mean an outdoor into the wild, wild, 2446 01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:12.239 untamable soul like yourself. Cannot be in the film room 2447 01:56:12.720 --> 01:56:15.479 for three straight days. You gotta have something going on 2448 01:56:15.560 --> 01:56:16.960 with the weather like it is this weekend. 2449 01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:19.800 Oh, it's beautiful out and yeah, we'll take advantage of it. 2450 01:56:19.840 --> 01:56:22.439 Get out into the into the mountains at some point, 2451 01:56:22.520 --> 01:56:25.359 play some tennis at some point. Here's here's the thing. 2452 01:56:25.880 --> 01:56:29.600 I I once was a man who if I didn't 2453 01:56:29.640 --> 01:56:32.199 watch it live, I just I thought it was it 2454 01:56:32.199 --> 01:56:35.920 didn't matter, it didn't happen, right. I had to get 2455 01:56:35.960 --> 01:56:39.119 over that working in sports. Otherwise you'll just you'll never 2456 01:56:39.399 --> 01:56:40.720 you'll never have any any time. 2457 01:56:40.800 --> 01:56:41.960 So anyway, you got a DVR. 2458 01:56:42.199 --> 01:56:46.600 Basically, I DVR every Big game, the Big twelve. Stuff 2459 01:56:46.640 --> 01:56:48.960 is actually awesome because ESPN Plus has has everything in 2460 01:56:49.199 --> 01:56:51.720 playback if you go back and want to watch stuff. 2461 01:56:52.600 --> 01:56:56.399 But I really DVR everything, and then my Saturday PMS, 2462 01:56:56.479 --> 01:57:00.159 my Sunday PMS. It's all football. It's all. It's all 2463 01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:03.119 watching the games, catching up on stuff and skipping through 2464 01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:06.520 the commercials. And I usually get in way more football 2465 01:57:06.520 --> 01:57:09.760 that way, and I'm able to watch several games kind 2466 01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:13.239 of in their their totality and do it well into 2467 01:57:13.319 --> 01:57:16.399 the am hours, and I actually quite enjoy that. 2468 01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:19.199 So, yeah, if I don't go to a game live, 2469 01:57:19.520 --> 01:57:22.319 I will DVR the game and then do something fun 2470 01:57:22.439 --> 01:57:24.760 and come home and not watch commercials. There you go, 2471 01:57:24.920 --> 01:57:25.760 it's the way to do it. 2472 01:57:25.800 --> 01:57:29.079 If it's obviously like maybe the CFP or a UTES 2473 01:57:29.159 --> 01:57:31.760 game where we are here there on the road, I'll 2474 01:57:31.760 --> 01:57:33.600 watch that live. I'll cover it. But other than that, ye, 2475 01:57:34.079 --> 01:57:37.119 I really do try to take the resources we have 2476 01:57:37.640 --> 01:57:38.960 and you last, all. 2477 01:57:38.920 --> 01:57:41.720 Right, pregame coverage Utah football, Let's get the deats. 2478 01:57:42.720 --> 01:57:42.920 Yeah. 2479 01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:46.079 We'll be Atbout Time in Jordan Landing, West Jordan, which 2480 01:57:46.800 --> 01:57:50.159 is actually not the location. They're in a different location now, 2481 01:57:50.159 --> 01:57:53.880 but that's where About Time was founded fifteen years ago, 2482 01:57:53.960 --> 01:57:57.560 so it's kind of their their anniversary. They're celebrating fifteen 2483 01:57:57.640 --> 01:58:02.159 years Jordan win appropriately at Jordan Landing with me at 2484 01:58:02.159 --> 01:58:05.600 about time. We'll be there from ten am to noon. 2485 01:58:06.079 --> 01:58:10.239 Bloody Mary Barr brunch. Come by watch some football, say 2486 01:58:10.279 --> 01:58:12.800 hello to Jordan and I and we'll have some tailgate 2487 01:58:12.840 --> 01:58:14.760 passes for the next home game. We'll have some tickets 2488 01:58:14.800 --> 01:58:17.119 to give away and go from there. So yeah, come 2489 01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:20.680 stop by the West Jordan Jordan Landing location about time 2490 01:58:21.079 --> 01:58:23.239 ten am to noon. Jordan and I will be there 2491 01:58:23.399 --> 01:58:24.640 talkings and football. 2492 01:58:24.479 --> 01:58:29.119 Deets by the way, short for details, Yes you knew that. Yeah, 2493 01:58:29.399 --> 01:58:32.279 I used the shortened version because I have the RIZ. 2494 01:58:33.119 --> 01:58:37.520 I heard a couple of teenagers like behind me at 2495 01:58:37.520 --> 01:58:39.399 the crosswalk on my way to work the other day 2496 01:58:40.079 --> 01:58:43.520 having a conversation right spence. I didn't know what they 2497 01:58:43.560 --> 01:58:46.079 were talking about, and they were speaking English. I am 2498 01:58:46.159 --> 01:58:48.960 fluent in English. I had no idea what they were 2499 01:58:48.960 --> 01:58:52.479 talking about. It's the new world we're in. I got 2500 01:58:52.479 --> 01:58:55.199 the RIZ. I don't have it, but I know what 2501 01:58:55.239 --> 01:59:02.039 it means. I know deets. It pretty old, but some 2502 01:59:02.119 --> 01:59:04.840 of the new stuff. Man, I have no idea what 2503 01:59:04.840 --> 01:59:05.720 the duk mop sounds like. 2504 01:59:05.760 --> 01:59:07.600 That conversation must have been pretty mid. 2505 01:59:07.880 --> 01:59:11.319 It was, in fact, it was intelligible. 2506 01:59:11.520 --> 01:59:16.479 No, that's too bad. Don't be so extra I'm trying. 2507 01:59:17.239 --> 01:59:17.840 That's all I got. 2508 01:59:17.920 --> 01:59:18.399 I'm trying. 2509 01:59:18.720 --> 01:59:20.039 I think that's all I got At this point, I 2510 01:59:20.039 --> 01:59:23.079 could probably search for more. All right, real quick, here 2511 01:59:23.119 --> 01:59:25.199 are my picks for the weekend six pack of picks. Okay, 2512 01:59:25.239 --> 01:59:28.359 we've done pretty well five and one. Week one. We 2513 01:59:28.359 --> 01:59:31.640 were four and two week two, So quick math. We 2514 01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:34.279 are nine and three through two weeks, which is much 2515 01:59:34.279 --> 01:59:36.279 better than we did a week ago. So real quick, 2516 01:59:36.359 --> 01:59:39.399 let's go through these. I'm taking Tennessee. This is making 2517 01:59:39.439 --> 01:59:41.760 me nervous because everyone's on Tennessee now, But I think 2518 01:59:41.800 --> 01:59:45.239 Tennessee rolls in to Oklahoma and smokes them. I'm taking 2519 01:59:45.279 --> 01:59:48.960 Tennessee thirty eight Oklahoma twenty one. That's a seven point spread. 2520 01:59:49.000 --> 01:59:51.560 I think Tennessee's gonna work them. I'm taking Baylor to 2521 01:59:51.640 --> 01:59:54.079 win outright on the road of Colorado, even though they 2522 01:59:54.079 --> 01:59:56.359 are a two point dog. Baylor made a quarterback change. 2523 01:59:56.399 --> 01:59:59.239 I like how they look. I'm taking Baylor thirty Colorado 2524 01:59:59.279 --> 02:00:03.640 twenty four. Give me TCU to win and cover at SMU. 2525 02:00:03.720 --> 02:00:07.479 It's only a two point spread. TCU, I think is 2526 02:00:07.479 --> 02:00:09.079 a good team. I think they're gonna go down there. 2527 02:00:09.079 --> 02:00:12.239 They're gonna cover thirty one. Twenty eight. Give me USC 2528 02:00:12.479 --> 02:00:15.399 to win, but Michigan to cover. In the Big House 2529 02:00:15.960 --> 02:00:19.359 USC twenty eight, Michigan twenty four, I'm taking k State 2530 02:00:19.439 --> 02:00:22.439 to win, but BYU to cover. I'm taking k State 2531 02:00:22.479 --> 02:00:26.159 twenty eight, BYU twenty four. Then finally, I'm going to 2532 02:00:26.159 --> 02:00:29.439 operate off the premise that Cameron Rising will be under 2533 02:00:29.520 --> 02:00:33.239 center tomorrow for the Utah Ute. So give me Utah 2534 02:00:33.359 --> 02:00:38.960 thirty three, Oklahoma State twenty one. I'm taking Utah to 2535 02:00:39.039 --> 02:00:41.960 win and cover, and actually win somewhat comfortably because of 2536 02:00:42.079 --> 02:00:45.239 Cam's under center. I have confidence they can get that done. 2537 02:00:46.039 --> 02:00:48.359 All right, Porter, Time to get our weekend started out 2538 02:00:48.439 --> 02:00:50.800 the right way? What comes our listeners way? On a 2539 02:00:51.039 --> 02:00:52.279 Monday edition of the show. 2540 02:00:52.399 --> 02:00:55.279 On a Monday edition of The Drive, of course, we'll 2541 02:00:55.279 --> 02:00:58.039 hear from Kyle Whittingham his weekly press conference. We're hoping 2542 02:00:58.039 --> 02:01:00.159 to hear from him on the show next week week 2543 02:01:00.279 --> 02:01:03.239 as well, but we'll of course play back his weekly 2544 02:01:03.279 --> 02:01:06.840 presser as we do each and every Monday. Bill Riley, 2545 02:01:06.880 --> 02:01:09.479 the Voice of the Utes, will stop by fresh off 2546 02:01:09.520 --> 02:01:12.960 of a trip to the first Big twelve opponent in 2547 02:01:13.039 --> 02:01:16.720 Utah football history. It is the Oklahoma State Cowboys. Of course, 2548 02:01:16.720 --> 02:01:19.520 we'll have our Big twelve Power rankings, our AP voter 2549 02:01:19.640 --> 02:01:22.640 Josh Furlong will stop by, and the return of our 2550 02:01:22.680 --> 02:01:27.279 friend Spencer Hall, who was in Mongolia this summer. Was 2551 02:01:29.000 --> 02:01:31.119 I don't even know what the hell he was doing 2552 02:01:31.239 --> 02:01:33.560 the last couple of months. He's been all over the place. 2553 02:01:33.600 --> 02:01:36.119 But looking forward to catching up with Spencer Hall. 2554 02:01:36.199 --> 02:01:38.159 Yeah, that'll be a good Monday show. All right, guys, 2555 02:01:38.239 --> 02:01:40.319 have a great weekend. Okay, it should be a lot 2556 02:01:40.319 --> 02:01:42.760 of fun. Weather's great. It's not going to be great forever, 2557 02:01:42.840 --> 02:01:44.520 so get out and hike it out and golf, Get 2558 02:01:44.520 --> 02:01:46.520 out and spend some time with your family and friends. 2559 02:01:46.920 --> 02:01:49.800 Special thank you today at to Pablo Master, Aenny, Andy Larson, 2560 02:01:49.880 --> 02:01:53.279 Cameron Rising, Chris Comaradnie and Robert Johnson for any of 2561 02:01:53.279 --> 02:01:55.479 the sound you may miss from the show today. 2562 02:01:55.600 --> 02:01:56.199 Check out our. 2563 02:01:56.119 --> 02:01:59.720 Website it's ESPN seven hundred sports dot com. Make sure 2564 02:01:59.760 --> 02:02:01.960 to download our mobile app and take us on the go. 2565 02:02:02.079 --> 02:02:05.239 It's the ESPN seven hundred app that's available in the 2566 02:02:05.239 --> 02:02:07.520 App Store or the Google Play Store. 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