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Speaker 3: You know, it never fails that when I mentioned I'm
going to discuss Carol Quigley, I get some of the
weirdest reactions. I mentioned this online and so that tonight
we would deal with the other book, The Anglo American Establishment,
and I got some pretty funny reactions. One guy kind
of lost it and went off on me because he
thought somehow this had something to do with Lennon LaRouche.
That's beyond me. I have absolutely nothing to do with
Lyndon Larouge. I think maybe twice in ten years I've
cited in an Executive Intelligence Review article ever, so literally
nothing to do with Lyndon Larouge. But that guy admitted
that he had not even read quickly in either Tragy
and Hope or The Anglo American Establishment. So again, you know,
it's always a good idea to be aware of what
you're talking about before you go off on people. And
you know, I just really have no time in respect
your patients for people that go off and have no
knowledge or haven't read the subject at hand. If you've
read it, I will listen to you and be glad
to hear your wisdom and your correction. If you haven't
read something, you're gonna come off talking crap. You're not
gonna have my attention. So other people mistakenly think that
this book, apparently because of the title, was some kind
of anti white treatise, that this was some kind of
social justice warrior work.
Speaker 2: No, sorry, that's not what this is.
Speaker 3: Every time I talk about Carl Quigly, I get people bitching.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 3: I mean, why don't you just listen before you People
are so trained to just react, and they don't know
what the other person's views are, where they're coming from.
They just make all these assumptions. You know, I have
something to do with little Roofe. I've never been had
any kind of connection to any of those people, except
one time I met what's his name, Oh, what's his name?
That I did IRESs the impersonation. One time I met
Webster Tarpley, he gave a talk.
Speaker 2: One time.
Speaker 3: Was the debate I'm smoking my pipe incation, winery, not
a crack pipe. So no, I don't have anything to
do with any of those groups. And this book is
not a social justice warrior attack on white people or
the history of white people. This book is an apologist
writing from the Council on Foreign Relationship Archives. Now, I
would recommend any of you that haven't to go and
listen to the eight lectures on Tragy and Hope for
the full treatment. But there's a lot of interesting aspects to.
Speaker 2: This book that.
Speaker 3: Are not mentioned in Tragy and Hope. So we get
some new details, some deeper insights, and we talked about
the secret Society. It's mentioned, i think in one part
where he quickly calls it a secret society and Tragy
and Hope, and essentially this book is a three hundred
page expansion on that topic. Who is this secret society
that is made up of the Cliveden set, the Milner Group,
the Roads round Table, the Milner Kindergarten, Right, that's who
we're concerned with. So at the turn of the century,
in the late eighteen hundreds. He points out that this
society has been called various names. It is the secret
Society of Cecil Roads, It is the dream of Cecil Roads.
It is also known as Milner's Kindergarten and is also
known as the Roundtable Group. It has been called the
Chatham House crowd, the Roads crowd, and the Cliveden set.
So it's all of those. All those terms are fine,
there's nothing wrong with using those terms. The Royal Institute
of International Affairs is obviously one of the key centerpieces
of this. It founded the RIA, and it also founded
the League of Nations. It had a great deal to
do with the formation and management of the League of Nations.
So quickly is telling you on page four and five
that the modern world has been framed by these people.
Speaker 2: Remember that.
Speaker 3: Now, this guy going off in me was arguing that
the Council on Form Relations had nothing to do with
the Roundtable Groups. That was just totally ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I mean, like.
Speaker 3: I've I don't even know how to respond sometimes to
things that I mean that shouldn't even be debated. Obviously,
the Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of
the Roundtable Groups.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on.
Speaker 3: Now, so let's get into some of these key players,
what the ideology is here and why this is so important.
I'm gonna go and tell you. So we talk about
in the new world Order. We've heard this bantered about
for many years. What is the new world order? Well,
we know Bush said it. We know that many of
these modern day bureaucrats and technocrats, Kissinger and Rockefeller and
these different people talk about the new world order. But
what are the where do the ideological origins of the
new world order come from?
Speaker 2: Right? Well, we know about people like H. G.
Speaker 3: Wells, you know, writing books about the new world Order.
Many other figures could be mentioned, you know, famous writers.
But one of the things that's important about Quickly's angle
American establishment is that he's going to give you the
ideological underpinnings and origins for the new world order. And
it's not what you tend to think. Most people will
think it's some sort of secret plot of some secret
society or some kind of you know, crazy.
Speaker 2: Who knows what.
Speaker 3: Really it has its ideas in the liberal order of
the British Commonwealth. Yes, the British Empire is the origin
of the modern new World order, because of course the
United Nations and all the different manifestations of globalist power
blocks and interests in goos and so forth, all really
have their origins in these beginning think tanks and foundations
in the modern world, namely the Roads Around Table groups
and the Royal Institute for International Affairs. So that is
this group of people, and I've mentioned I think it's
the guy's name is John Roberts. I don't have the
book here on hand, but many years ago I read
I think it is John Roberts' biography of Cecil Rhoads.
And Cecil was interested in Freemasonry, and many of these people,
of course will be Freemasons. But this inner group, this
inner party, the Society of the Elect as they're called,
are not too attached to a cult ideology per se.
Speaker 2: I think that they are pragmatic.
Speaker 4: That is the American mindset, pragmatism, that is the philosophy
of the Anglo American tradition.
Speaker 2: Pragmatism.
Speaker 3: It's the only philosophy to come out of America.
Speaker 2: As a so called school.
Speaker 3: And so it makes sense that the ideological underpinnings for
the Western imperium are therefore going to be pragmatic and
quote liberal. The liberal world order, the liberal imperium is
essentially what we're talking about. One of the key figures,
of course, is Arnold Toynbee. And it's important to recall
that where do all of these thinkers come from. And
Quigley's very explicit about this. Almost all of them come
from Oxford, from all souls in the different colleges, right,
and you have some others from Cambridge and things like that,
but for the most part it is the Oxford crowd.
And the round table groups would of course be formed
out of a lot of these Oxford people. And quickly
makes the argue that argument that by nineteen thirty eight
they had full control of the decisions being made in
the UK, and of course they did also, as he says,
or roughly speaking, organized the wars World War One and
World War Two. But it's important that it wasn't just
what was happening in Britain that had, you know, that
was behind the formation of the Liberal imperium. It was
also things that they experimented with in the colonies, the
things that were experimented with in Canada, New Zealand, Australia,
and it was in some of the dominions that the
first roundtable groups were set up. And so you had
this older model of the Imperial Federation. In this Imperial
Federation and the Imperial Federation League. It worked for a while,
but eventually this dissolved by the eighteen nineties. And keep
in mind that this Cecil Rhodes group, the originally the
Millner will take it over from Rose Roads Passes Passes
Away and it will be Milner, Lord Rothschild, Lord Cecil,
Lord Curzon and a few others that will kind of
be the inner circle, the inner Party. Now, what is
the philosophy of Twyinbee. Well, when we get to page ten,
it's a kind of socialism that is a liberal world order.
It is the the it's not just the ideology, but
it's also the methodology, all right, So what we have
with Twinbee is the idea that the world could move
into a kind of enlightened socialism, and that this could
all be done under at the behest of democratic ideas
of freedom, liberalism, equality, all this kind of nonsense, right,
While at the same time, it's important to understand that
a lot of these characters privately had completely different views,
which is interesting because I guess Quigley as an apologist,
either he's either ignorant of that or doesn't get the contradiction.
But as we pointed out in the first series of
Quiggly Talks, there is quite a bit of contradicting in
Quigley's mind that he's quite okay with. Now when we
get to chapter two. This is interesting because these are
again basically big important families. They're tied to big bankers.
They're tied to the roth Childs, They're tied to Lazard brothers,
you know, some of these other j Lloyd's Bank, these
other big banks, and these important families are committed to
cecil Roads' idea. And Rhodes thinks that the British Empire
is really.
Speaker 2: The best model for the world.
Speaker 3: Now again, on the surface, they spout all this liberal stuff. However,
they also publish all these things that deal with total
Darwinistic social Darwinis race theory. Right now, I'm telling you
what their view is. Their view is, you know, the
official sort of Oxford publications of social Darwinism race theory.
In that you know, what's the original title of Darwin's book,
The Favored Races, right.
Speaker 2: The Evolution of Man and.
Speaker 3: The Favored Races. Right now, he's talking about England. England
is the highest pinnacle of race theory in that view. Now,
that's the underlying ideology of these character characters, and and
why they have that liberalism, as they will even say
at times, and as even Quickly quotes, is because of evolution.
Evolution demands progress as opposed to fixity and stasis. We
can't have abiding eternal laws and rules because there's evolution,
and nations evolve.
Speaker 2: Some nations are.
Speaker 3: More or less evolved, they say, and other. And so
in other words, what you have is this very bizarre
contradiction of on the one hand, the assumption of a
racial supremacy while at the same time admitting and saying
and preaching total equality, egalitarianism, and the idea that Western
democratic liberalism must be foisted on the whole world. So
this is what Orwell is talking about, right, So when
you read nineteen eighty four and he's talking about the
bizarre contradictions, this is what he's talking about. I mean,
how are how are? And this is why these people
are in control these families is because they are masters
of this dialectic. So how do they get in control?
Well quickly says that the way that the modern crop
of leaders got in control, And what he means is
that essentially displacing the older European ideas of kings. So
how do we get from, you know, periods where we
had kings to this more monetarist period where bankers and
industrialists own the kings and own the republics and own
the Democrats and own the government. Well, they conceive this
plot through infiltration. That is the whole chapter two infiltrate,
how on a triple front? What is the triple front? Well,
Cecil and his buddies figured out that the way to
advance this plot, him and Rothschild was to keep the
society in its liberal imperial goals private the inner party,
which would know everything that was going on. Meanwhile, you
would have an outer society of helpers, academic idiots who
actually believe that this is all about liberal democracy. They
would help to educate, right, and then you will have
your key people in different aspects places within society. That's
literally what this chapter talks about, the infiltration of society, education, media,
and politics. So we're not going to worry about he
says later on mass media and control of mass media. Rather,
what they focused on was key positions. So, for example,
at Oxford there were a couple key professorships that the
Milner group needed to control and did control, and that
was how.
Speaker 2: They controlled the attitude of those who.
Speaker 3: Would graduate from Oxford and all souls right the key positions. Similarly,
in media, it would require the control of certain papers, editorships,
and starting certain papers. So the Roundtable is a publication,
and obviously the Roundtable publication is going to promote the
ideas of the Rentable group, and quickly interestingly admits that
the idea that this was a intellectually free area where
you could voice your different opinions and debate. He says,
that is not true. The ideology was one hundred percent
committed to the extension of the Liberal Empire, the British
Commonwealth idea for the whole world. Likewise, you would have
other key key characters who would help to set up
other organizations, such as a Lord Cecil and Lord Salisbury right,
and people who would be involved in the creation believe nations.
Speaker 2: And now you.
Speaker 3: Well, so how do you prop some of these people up?
What one thing you might do is give them a
noble nobel prize. So one of the early let's see
who is it, Chancellor.
Speaker 2: Lord Cecil was an MP.
Speaker 3: He was involved in foreign affairs. Lord Cecil was a
member of the He one of the original drafters of
the Covenant for the League of Nations and is the
English architect most closely associated with the League of Nations.
And for this work he received a Nobel Prize in
nineteen th or so. So the people who, of course
decide who gets the Nobel Prize are the people who
are determining whether or not world government is a worthy
endeavor to get you a Nobel prize. Right now, that's
one interesting aspect that keep popping up is this notion
of the revolving door principle, which was going on even then,
and so you would have somebody go from being an
MP to being involved in setting up the League of Nations,
to be involved in some private directorship of some corporate board,
to banking.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So they just go through all these different positions, and
that's how you ensure that the society, the Milner Roads Society,
gets its philosophy put into place. So let's see, let's
not forget women. The women's branch of the Ministry of
Agriculture delicate to the League of Nations, right, So the
wives of a lot of these guys are going to
play an important role too. So that's where you get
into the notion of the intermarriage, which quickly mentions on
page nineteen.
Speaker 2: And most of these people are going to be drawn.
Speaker 3: From the Fellows of All Souls. And just a few
of the early members drawn, Lord Acton, Leopold Amory, Sir
Harold Butler, Lord Halifax, Max Mueller, T. E. Lawrence, We've
all heard of him, Lord Curzon, Lord Salisbury. All right,
there is some of the All Souls elect right. Now,
what's interesting is that this is illustrated on page twenty
two explicitly as I've been saying, that College of All
Souls is largely influenced not by the illustrious, illustrious names,
but by a secret inner group of fellows, a shadowy group, right,
and they are the Milner group. Surprise, surprise. Now it's
also important to mention that all of these government and
social areas that we mentioned, that's not it, that's not
all they controlled. Well, they also controlled the Church of England. Yes,
many of these Anglican ministers, right, they're also directly involved
in this. And he goes through a long list of
different Anglican so called divines and theologians. Now let's cut
off the Anglican Church really quick and point out that
ever since its inception, the Anglican Church has had as
it's head the king, and once Henry the eighth was gone,
Elizabeth and then even now to this day the Queen
of England is the head of the church. Well, I'm sorry,
but there's no woman that's the head of the church.
So that should tell you right away that the Church
of England is not a real church. And what do
we get from Quigley, Well, it's just a tool of
the British Empire.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: The city of London is also important as a sort
of a center for a lot of these people. As
we've said, the ideology again is mentioned it is the
liberal order, and for a while the liberal market order
is very important. Many of the earliest members of the
Milner group, well the Cecil in the Cecil Roads period.
They were the the held to the ideas of gold
standard and all that kind of stuff, the sort of
the Ron Paul type ideology. Interestingly, the ron Paul ideology
is the ideology of the controlling Cecil crowd.
Speaker 2: Somebody used to ask.
Speaker 3: Ron Paul or any of the Austrians, how come the
most powerful group here? That sort of formed the modern world,
all held to the the Austrian school. Now, somebody on
my Facebook today was trying to argue with me about
this and say that, oh, no, no, no, you see
they all adopted Keynesianism. That's not exactly true. There was
a period where there was this older gold standard ideology,
and then when Lord Milner took over. Milner and others,
I think John Ruskin was a socialist, So some of
these people were socialists. A. C. Wells as part of
this crew, you know, many of them have kind of
socialistic leanings, and then some of the old guard kind
of had that gold standard Ron Paul kind of you.
So they weren't always completely united on their theory. But
it doesn't matter because they weren't a group based on theory.
They were a group based on action, and the action
would require different things at different times. Right, So they
weren't just necessarily concerned with, oh if we can just
get Keynesianism in place, right, oh if we can just
get like some gold standard and get rid of the
federal reserves. And that they weren't that, they weren't that theoretical.
They're more interested in pragmatic control, and that's why they
got the control right, which is a lesson. And again
why do I say this? Well, look, every time I
talk about this, I never get anybody.
Speaker 2: One time I had one.
Speaker 3: Of these Austrian school people try to make a comeback
when I pointed out that von Hayek, at the end
of his book Road to Serfdom has a whole chapter
on global government and why we need we got to
have global government, why for the market to ensure the
market a great market god? And the person I don't
remember who it was, was, oh, well, you see that
proves that von Hayek is not.
Speaker 2: A real Austrian.
Speaker 3: Well, sorry, but I mean David Rockefeller and all these
different characters are Austrians. So I don't know what to say.
I mean, come on, what does Quigley say? Quickly points
out that all these people the older model, the older model,
older model was the wrong Paul gold Standard type view.
They don't really care about that anymore. They moved on,
and it doesn't really that you want to enact, you know,
the older banker banker model Beta. It really doesn't matter.
So you're just talking nonsense, right, because you're dealing with
they shadow banking empire as quickly, cause it that already
controls those markets. Now here's an interesting fact that he
didn't mention in Tragy and Hope. This is page thirty two. Apparently.
Now it is mentioned in John Roberts's biography of.
Speaker 2: Cecil Rose, was he was a weirdo.
Speaker 3: Cecil Rose is into all kind of weird things, and
he might have even been gay or a pedo.
Speaker 2: We don't know. I mean, I can't.
Speaker 3: Prove that, obviously, but there's these weird comments about how
he liked the company of young boys, and I don't
really know exactly what that means, but nothing would surprise me.
But he was very interested in the Society for Psychic Research. Interesting,
I'm not sure what to make of that. Could have
been just the popular fad of the time, you know,
mesmerism and psychicism or psychicalism and these mind powers and
this different stuff that was popular in the late eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: But apparently.
Speaker 3: Lord A Balfour and Professor Sedgwick and Rhodes were all
into and many of the people at the Royal Institute
for International Affairs. We're interested in the Society for Psychical Research.
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