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much for your support. All Right, so if you're listening

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on the podcast, you would not have heard the call

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that we got at the very end of the hour

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in hour number two, right before the newscast. And it's

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a person who goes by various different names, and so

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I was kind of curious why he fixed different names.

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That's what prompted me to ask the caller who gave

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us the name of Spalding. But that was not his

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real name, I don't think, And maybe that was his

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real name, but he called in the other day under

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the name of Chester. He called in yester day under

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another name, and I forget what the other name was

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that he called in. But and there's also a bit

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of a delay, and that I noticed the first time

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I talked with him last week, I think it was

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when he called in as Chester and and me being

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a radio broadcast veteran as I am, and one who

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has worked in various forms, first as a reporter and

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then as a host, and I like, I can tell

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when there is some technical thing going on on the line.

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And I'm not sure if he realizes this or not,

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but there's a bit of a delay, which is indicative

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of a recording taking place. And so that's what I

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detected the last time, was a bit of a delay,

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And after the call was over, and I thought, oh,

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that's interesting, like, I think I think he may have

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been recording me. And it turns out he was. He

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has a YouTube channel and he apparently Look, I'm not

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I am not knocking anybody's hobbies. Okay, it may not

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be for me, it may not be for you. But

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if somebody is getting enjoyment out of doing some you know, hobby,

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then that's fine. I have no problem with it. I

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don't have any problem with him recording me. And you know,

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from his end of the conversation and putting it on

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his YouTube channel where his what did we just see

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was we looked it up during the break seventy eight subscribers. So,

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as Tony points out on the text line, he's not

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making a killing. No, that's true. Look, look, content creation

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is difficult. Okay, take it from me. I've been doing

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this a while. Creating good content is difficult. There was

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an old programming director I had years ago. He said,

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everybody can do a show. Everybody can do a three

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hour show, right, you get enough advanced notice, right, you

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put together enough stories and prep and that sort of stuff.

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Everybody's got a show in them. And most people probably

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have a week's where the shows that they could that

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they could do. But can you do a month? Can

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you do a year? Can you do five? Can you

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do ten? And here's the thing, it's a bit of

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a an industry secret for Chester. You never know until

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you do it. That's the secret. You never know until

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you do it. There's no way to know if you

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can do a decade or two decades in this format,

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in this media. There's no way to know if you've

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got that in you until you actually hit that milestone.

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And so like, at some point, maybe it might be tomorrow,

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it could be today, and I will have nothing left

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to say. I will feel like I have exhausted all

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of my talking, which my wife would probably be very

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happy to hear that. No, And so look, I'm not

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going to knock him in his hobby. I'm not going

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to knock the what he thinks is some sort of

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a niche that he is serving. It's not a very

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big one, but that's okay, that's all right, like to

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each their own. But what keeps me going is the

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question of, like, what are you doing this for now.

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If it's simply sort of a masturbatory kind of a

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thing and that's all you're in it for is to

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hear yourself on your own YouTube channel like that, that's

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one thing. If it's for another reason, then that's usually

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going to be more. It's gonna you're more likely to

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have longevity because if you're doing it for some other reason,

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which is why I got into this in the first place.

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And I've talked about this for years because it has

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been my motivating philosophy going back twenty five years. First

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as a reporter, which was the fundamental role of the

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free press, which is to hold government accountable, to inform

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the citizenry so the people can make decisions on their

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elected officials and the direction of the country and which

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policies to support, and so that's been my motivation. That's

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why I do what I do. And I moved into

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the hosting position from the reporter position because as a

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reporter you're constrained, you're not giving opinions on stuff. But

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most importantly to me was I was very limited in

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the amount of time I had to tell a story

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or to go over a topic. And with the long

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form format like this, I can go into lots of details.

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And some people say, please Pete stop, there's too many details,

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But I just ignore them and I just plow ahead

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and I just keep going because that's to me. This

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is another lesson from Limbaugh, which this Chester guy he

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goes by the on the YouTube he's got the what

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is it called the seminar Caller, that's what he calls

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his channel, which was an homage to Rush because Rush

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Limbaugh used to call them seminar callers, and they would

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always start just like this guy did Chester with saying, oh,

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I was a lifelong Republican, right and by the way,

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I did. I listened to like the first ten seconds

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of one of those clips where he claims to have

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voted for Trump in twenty sixteen. And so congratulations Chester,

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You and I have voted for Donald Trump exactly the

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same amount of times. Yeah, I did not vote for

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Trump in the first two races. I did vote for

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him last time. And I explained all of this in

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twenty four I wrote a whole lot bet about it

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at the Blaze, which was I voted for Trump as

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my protest vote, which I always use my presidential vote

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as a protest vote because I always would usually vote

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for a Libertarian for president. In twenty twenty when he

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was running AI, I left it blank. I just left

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it blank. I I just I didn't want to anybody,

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And it's a little protest vote. All. It's my vote,

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but I can do with it what I want, and

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I choose to use it as a protest and I did.

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In twenty four I protested the Democrat media establishment, the

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deep staters, the weaponization of the intelligence community, but most

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importantly it was the media. It was a protest vote

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against the media that was gaslighting me and telling me

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that the president of the United States was not in

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cognitive decline. And because I know the media is going

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to hold Donald Trump to a standard, that they are

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not holding Joe Biden to or Kamala Harris to, nor

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that they held Obama to. I was there, I saw

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the whole thing. I covered it and became a host

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during that time period. I am intimately aware of the

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way the media covered Obama. I knew the media was

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going to treat Donald Trump differently. They would hold him

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more to account than they can any Democrat. So I

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voted for him in twenty four So there's my backstory,

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my origin story, and chester, if you're still recording, put

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this into your clip, because YouTube rewards you for a

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longer clip rather than the short ones you're putting up there.

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I'm not actually sure you've been shadow band, buddy. I

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think it's because your content is too short. See, because

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you're not staying on the calls long enough because you're

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saying probably stupid stuff, and then they suss you out

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and you get ditched off the phones, and so your

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clips are too short. You got to go longer than

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ten minutes. So this is my gift to you. Take

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this segment, tack it on to that call, put it

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onto your YouTube channel, and now you'll have at least

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one clip of longer than ten minutes and that might

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help boost your reach. I mean, not much, but it

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might help a little because I'm a giver, all right.

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as they make the media landscape more transparent. U a

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couple of tweets on the Twitter machine. Apparently people have

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some thoughts about our seminar caller, so let's see. This

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is from Melissa who says Chester does a disservice to

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all cheeto lovers in the nation. Mmmm, it's Chester cheat. Okay.

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Robert says, per your sage broadcasting advice, anyone can do

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one three hour show, Well, anyone except Alec Baldwin. Look,

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I will say this if you've never heard the Alec

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Baldwin audio when he filled in I forget for whom,

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but they he got some radio slot and they I

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think it was a fill in slot, and like every

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five seconds or ten seconds, he was saying do we

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have anybody yet? As called in give the number again?

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to this day I'm not sure if that wasn't a bit.

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I still don't know if Alec Baldwin was just doing

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a radio bit. I mean, it wasn't funny, but like that,

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I think that was what he was going for. If

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it was a bit that he was trying to just

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do this sort of awkward humor, you know, which has

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become very popular. But so he was way ahead of

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his time because that was like what fifteen years ago

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or something. And I never did listen to the to

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the whole show that he did because the first you know,

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five minutes of it was just excruciating. It. It was

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just bad. But again, I still to this day do

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not know if that was actually a bit to the

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text line, Zach says, your conversation with Chuck had me chuckling. Well,

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you know, he went by Spalding. Today he has called me.

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I believe it's now four times. See here's the thing.

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I have a bit of an uncanny memory when it

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comes to this sort of thing. I remember people when

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they call me and I talked to them. I remember

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the sounds of people's voices and so, and certain things

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that occur on the on the phone and like the

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pauses and stuff like that. So and I don't know

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if everybody does that, I'm not sure, but I do.

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I hear it. I can recognize somebody's voice pretty quickly.

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very weird names, which is a that's a tell as well.

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So you may want to go with like a a

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name like Tony or Sean, so I can I could

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recognize the voices, but if you were to use just

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like a regular name, it would be more difficult. But

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he went by Chester, not Chuck, went by Chester. Sean says,

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I love your ability to dismantle these callers who call

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you in bad faith while keeping it entertaining for the listener.

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Keep up the good work. Thank you, Sean. I appreciate it.

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I know I appreciate that you appreciate what it was

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that I was doing and that I do. Okay, so

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I'm gonna if Chester is even still listening for you know,

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content creation purposes, because so number one, No, Chester, I

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do not believe that you are a Republican or ever

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have been a Republican. I think you are of the left.

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And here's the thing. I am perfectly willing and able,

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which may explain why he doesn't want to do so.

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the substance of an issue, whatever the issue happens to be.

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do that, and you would just prefer to be a troll,

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then you're going to get the troll treatment because like

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offer nuance, have a discussion because I believe and I've

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said it many times, probably one hundreds, if not thousands

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of times over the course of my career, which is unchallenged.

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Ideas are easy to hold and you don't really know

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your own argument fully if you don't know your opponent's argument.

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So if you would like to call and have a

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debate and argument in the you know, the classical rhetorical style,

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not like yelling and screaming argument. But if you're if

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you are interested in having a discussion about topics, I'm

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happy to do that and you can. You are free

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to disagree, and you could make your case and I

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will offer counterpoints and maybe I will end up agreeing

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with you on some stuff. That's possible as well. But

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if you are just simply in it for the trolls,

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well then again I'm gonna I'm going to engage with

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you as you engage with me, and that's always been

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my standard for every caller. I engage with them as

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they engage with me. Alice says Pete, thanks for that,

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You're welcome, And Jeff says seminar call or. I would

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attach a jiff of a cat playing with a ball

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of twine, but I'm guessing the system would block it.

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I don't Yeah, I don't know. I've seen people post

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gifts in here. I think. I don't know. On the

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text line they do, yeah, they do the yeah, the

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so okay, So full disclosure. If Chester you're still listening,

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or Spalding or whatever your name is, if you're still listening,

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so full disclosure. You know, people say, why do you

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take these calls? Pete? You know they you know they

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must drive you crazy, and this and that and and

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you know you get you know, somebody will say, if

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I'm arguing with them, why do you get mad? You

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shouldn't calm down all that stuff. It's like, I don't

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get mad. I'm not getting angry. Does a cat get

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angry at its ball of yarn? Does a dog get

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angry at its bone? No? Like this, this is fun.

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This is me toying with you. So I'm not sure

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if that's going to influence your discussion or your your

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decision in the future to call back. But again, like

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if you engage in bad faith, then I toy with you.

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That's that's that's what I do. That's look, that's what

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I do. I Look, I am self aware. I know

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this about myself. I tell people about that. But again,

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I would prefer that we have a discussion about the

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merits of a particular topic, that you know, the actual

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policies or something. Which is also why, like I can

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suss out pretty quickly when you start your uh, when

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you start your call with a bad faith question, that's

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not really a question that's seeking illumination. It's a question

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meant to accuse, right with It's an ulterior motive. It's

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an interrogating tactic, which I recognize. I've been known to

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use it myself. So yeah, that's that's a dead giveaway

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right out of the gate. Most hosts can suss that

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out immediately. So just as a tip for you, don't

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start off with a stupid bad faith question, because then

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the gig is up. Do do do you do?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 1: This is from Joseph that goofy lib calling you and

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even Brett a right wing authoritarian, because as an actual

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right wing authoritarian, I can assure him that you two

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are not right wing authoritarians. Uh, let say, uh, there's

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something more here. The real debate over the future is

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actually between the libertarian conservative wing versus the populist national wing.

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Right now, Libs are basically sidelined getting triggered by American

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Eagle ads. That's Joseph is correct. There the fight right

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now inside of the Republican Party. There is a there's

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a schism between the the populist nationalist wing and the

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conservatives and uh, a lot of old school libertarian types.

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Chester must record his call ins for his hand in

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order to get paid. It's like his time sheet. Oh

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that's a good I had not considered that we have

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call our idea. Let's go with Chuckster. That's Chester. Haven't

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heard from Tony in a while. I always liked it

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when he tried to make you look like a fool

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and it never worked out for him. Yeah, that's true.

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Russ pointed out on Twitter that he says, I'm really

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shocked with all these daily revelations about the Russia collusion hoax.

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I'm shocked we're not hearing from Mike, Daisy, Tony, Jackie,

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et al. I hope they're all doing well and we

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Who you are, visit Creative video dot Com. We're gonna

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get to the sub chucker in a minute. First, Ray,

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Ray, Hey, Pete. How you doing? Hey?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing all right? What's going on?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to make a comment about your comment about

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the Ponzi scheme of Social Security and Chester?

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Speaker 1: Okay? But uh is it one comment about both of

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those or is it one comment per topic?

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Speaker 2: One comment per topic?

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Speaker 1: All right, So we got to we have a quota here, Okay,

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So I just want to make sure you're under the quota. Okay, Yeah,

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I want to make sure you're under the quota.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But any anyway, Chester, those kind of callers, Uh,

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I think I figured out a long time ago why

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you and other hosts take those calls. It used to

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I used to think, well, you know, why do you

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take those calls? But another part of you just toying

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with him, like the ball of yarn cat, I would

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think would be that, you know, it's part of the

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job of a host to try to change I guess,

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hearts and minds and make people see the other side

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of an argument when they can't defend their argument. Instead

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of just calling names, and I think that's that's why

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radio hosts like you and the others do it.

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Speaker 1: And also, well, I'll stop you there and say you

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are correct in large measure. I never I don't ever

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engage with an argument or in an argument with a

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person with the expectation that I'm going to convince them

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they are wrong. Right, because most people, especially if you're

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calling into a radio show, there's all you know, there's

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a pressure there. You know, people are listening, you want

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to perform, You're gonna stick to your guns, You're gonna,

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you know, scramble for any argument. And so I get that.

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So my purpose is to never convince somebody that they're wrong.

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My purpose is to, uh, is to shed light on

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their argument, so everybody else that's listening to the argument

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agrees with me.

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Speaker 2: Because those yeah, point maybe I didn't or.

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Speaker 1: No, oh yeah, no, no, I said you are correct

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in large measure. I just wanted to, yeah, to clarify, like,

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I'm not trying to convince Chester. I'm trying to convince

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you everybody else that's listening that maybe doesn't have an

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opinion about a particular subject.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I was, you know, I was trying

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to say. And and the other point is, these these

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people that call in like this, they don't realize a

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lot of times they're they're harming their own side of

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the argument. They'recause brings back, you know, sort of the

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old saying I heard a long time ago from somebody.

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It's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought

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a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but Ray, why did you just you divulge the secret?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I was worried about doing that thing.

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Speaker 1: Why are you telling him that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But anyway, that's a heads up for Chester that

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maybe he shouldn't have got.

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Speaker 1: See Ray is Ray, you are also a giver, I

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can tell.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Peter. The other thing on the Social

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Security I've heard other people make remarks, and I've always

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thought it was a Ponsi scheme. And I've heard other

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people make remarks, two or three people I've talked with,

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and they make the good talking points that it's for

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this reason or that reason, it's not a Ponzi scheme

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because the government's involved, et cetera, et cetera. And you know,

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I read a book one time, well, I bought a book.

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It was something like social Security for dummies, and it

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was written by the AAARP, which we know how that is.

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And also you know they've made the same points in

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there that they had various reasons, and they were good

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reasons that Social Security is not a ponzi scheme for

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this reason or that. But I think I think you

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can confirm, and I wish you would, that Social Security

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really is legalized ponzi scheme? Am I correct on that?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's my view of it. I've heard

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also people make the argument that it is not. I

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don't find those arguments to be persuasive. My assessment is

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from my understanding of a ponzi scheme is that it

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is asking people to buy in with the promise of

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a return at a later date. And what the supporters

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will say is that the Social Security is not because

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there is a guarantee from the government that you will

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get paid your money back. But I don't believe that

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to be a guarantee. So yeah, right, I don't either

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pay right, And that's why I suspect at some point,

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like yes, you may get your money back from the

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Social Security Administration, but they may also or the government

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may also then be taxing you on all sorts of

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other retirement investment vehicles like the four to one K,

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which when you cash out, when you start drawing down,

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I should say, when you start taking your payment, you're

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going to be paying an income tax on that, and

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so what are the income taxes going to be?

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Speaker 2: McCollum, I apologize for giving away one of the secrets about.

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Speaker 1: Its all right, Ray, I appreciate it, Yes, sir, you

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two to take care. Speaking of Social Security, I just

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saw this. The President just did another Q and a

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kind of announcement from the Oval Office. He was talking

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about Social Security and he's talking about the transformation of

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the program after four years of mismanagement. He says they

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have reduced field office weight times by thirty percent, they

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have reduced call weight times by eighty percent while handling

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twice as many calls, and they now have twenty four

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to seven three sixty five online account access. So some

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of the reforms that I'm assuming this is related to

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the DOGE stuff. Remember when they when they were going

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through and they were identifying all of these you know,

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antiquated systems and stuff. So I suspect that's got something

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to do with it. But yeah, the modernization is long

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long overdue. All right, have you heard the story about

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the sub chucker, a guy who threw a sub at

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a cop in DC or I think it was DC. Yeah,

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because it wasn't a cop. I think it was actually

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a National guardsman or something, but it may have been

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a police officer. I've got the story here. I'll get

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to in a minute. I just would point out, like

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Stephen Miller over at the Spectator making a prediction that

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Jim Acosta is apparently now going to interview an AI

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generated Jared Fogel for a response to the sub assault. Terrible, terrible.

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I believe you carry out your purpose quite well. You

477
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,720
allow them to sound like the dumbasses that they really are. Well,

478
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:46,640
thank you. I appreciate that Jamie um insurance is not

479
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,039
a Ponzi scheme. No, Brian, I don't agree. I don't

480
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,920
believe in insurance is its own thing. Like you're betting

481
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you're not gonna die. So you buy the life policy

482
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and they're betting you will die at some point or

483
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no vice versas sorry, you're betting. Yeah, you're betting you

484
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will die. There, they're betting it that you won't. So

485
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,640
Mike says social Security is an unfunded pension program, and

486
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,960
somebody says, my wife had to talk to social Security

487
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and can't speak to anyone until October. Good lord, that's terrible.

488
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Try the website. Okay, So let me get to this

489
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:33,319
sub chucker story. It's a terrible, terrible story. New York

490
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Post a man who used a subway sandwich to attack.

491
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I don't know why I said it, like that he

492
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used a subway sandwich, which, okay, do we know it

493
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was a subway sandwich. It was definitely like a foot long.

494
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,640
It was a sub or but like that could have

495
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come from steak in HOGI, you know, Jersey. Mike's like,

496
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,319
I did not see the rapper. It was night, it

497
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was dark, couldn't really make out the The wrapper of

498
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,680
the video is grainy, you know, so I couldn't really

499
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,119
tell if it was actually a subway sandwich. But either way,

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they're getting a ton of publicity out of all of

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this because a guy used the sandwich to attack a

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00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:18,759
federal agent on the streets of Washington, DC earlier this week. So,

503
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if you haven't seen the video, some like raging lunatic

504
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,079
in like a pink polo shirt or something and some

505
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,839
khaki shorts walks up to one of these federal agents

506
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that are there as part of the mobilization of troops

507
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to help clamp down on crime in Washington, DC, and

508
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he starts berating one of these officers, like gets right

509
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up in his face. He's like three or four feet

510
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:51,039
away from him, maybe closer. He's yelling at him and

511
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yelling at him. The officer's not doing anything, just standing there.

512
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And finally the guy just takes the sub in his

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hand like he had obviously just purchased this sub. It's

514
00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:01,920
a fully wrapped looks like a brand new sub and

515
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,759
he just throws it at the at the cops chest,

516
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which obviously did not end well for him. Okay, he

517
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was he was taken down. He started running away, but

518
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they chased him down, they took him down, they arrested him,

519
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and now he has been identified as Sean Charles Dunn,

520
00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:26,599
thirty seven years old, and he is now being charged

521
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:35,759
with a felony, which I'm torn on this one because

522
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:39,160
on the one hand, I have no tolerance you lay

523
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,799
hands on a on an agent, on a law enforcement

524
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:44,440
like you lay hands on them like you yeah, you

525
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,759
get what the laws coming, and like that's usually a felony.

526
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,000
So like on that front, I'm fine. On the other hand,

527
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,079
it's it's a sub. You know, it was a sandwich,

528
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:57,240
so like it's not it's not like assault with a

529
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:01,319
deadly weapon, right, although I say that, I'm not really

530
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,160
sure what was in the sub, So like if it

531
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,680
was some hard salami like that might be that could be.

532
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:09,079
Or what if it was like a bunch of those

533
00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:11,400
hot peppers, like you put a bunch of the peppercinos

534
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,720
or whatever in there, like some really hot jalipinos, like

535
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:17,759
some of that could have splashed into an eye that

536
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:19,680
like maybe, So I'd have to know. I would have

537
00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,119
to know what the ingredients on the sub were. I think,

538
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:24,119
like was it a number six or was it a

539
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,960
number eight? You know, I think that should be part

540
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,319
of the mitigating or extenuating circumstances or aggravating circumstances, I

541
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:33,200
should say.

542
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: So.

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00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,599
Speaker 1: The criminal case was announced yesterday by DC attorney US

544
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Attorney Janine Piro, who said in a statement that quote,

545
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the police are not out there to get pushed around

546
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,480
or beat up. Done was allegedly captured, Well, he wasn't

547
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:52,440
allegedly captured on video. He was captured on video. He

548
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,279
was shouting at that a group of federal officers were fascists,

549
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,720
before whipping his Deli sandwich at them and striking a

550
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,240
US Customs and Border Protection agent in the chest, which

551
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:09,279
I know what you're thinking. Yes, the agent did appear

552
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to be wearing a vest which took most of the impact,

553
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,039
so it's good news, like, thank goodness, And yes it was,

554
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:23,680
and it was one of the outer carrier vests, it appeared,

555
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:26,759
so it wasn't one that was like under his uniform

556
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:30,279
or anything like. Our CMPD chief demanded and refused to

557
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:33,319
let the tactical vests be used for our officers until,

558
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:35,440
of course, he was shamed publicly into doing so, and

559
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,680
then he got his feelings hurt about the shaming, and

560
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,119
so he went and said he was going to sue

561
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:41,079
the city. Never actually sued the city, but the city

562
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:42,759
council paid him a bunch of money anyway, And now

563
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:46,200
he's retiring. So anyway, like they were wearing the outer

564
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:48,640
carrier vests, which I think in this case, I don't

565
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,000
want to exaggerate this at all, but I think it's

566
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:55,640
pretty clear that saved the agent's life, right. The criminal

567
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,640
complaint says that Donn confessed to a DC police officer,

568
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,720
so he cracked, he broke. He immediately broke under interrogation,

569
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:12,920
saying I did it. I threw a sandwich Sean Davis

570
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,759
at the Federalist. And this has now been confirmed that

571
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:24,039
the sub chucker was hired into the Department of Justice.

572
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:28,240
This guy is a DOJ employee. He was hired in

573
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:31,680
twenty twenty two during the Biden administration. He was promoted

574
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:35,240
right before Donald Trump took over. He served as a

575
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:41,759
non attorney specializing in international affairs. He has been fired,

576
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:48,119
as I understand it now, which yes, obviously he should be. Wait, Chris,

577
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:50,240
Chris wanted to talk about this too. Hello Chris, welcome

578
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,079
to the show Man.

579
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: You stole my thunder. Sorry, good job, good jobs. But

580
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,960
here's a little caveat I sawn TikTok. It was outside

581
00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:04,200
of a gay club, so I know, be on a

582
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:06,079
shadow of a doubt, it had to be a meat

583
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,240
ballt Mayor and Aioso.

584
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. No, you know what, I'm curious, did

585
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,000
anybody scream this is Maga Country.

586
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,639
Speaker 3: I'm sure they did it. It was running down the

587
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,159
street probably.

588
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: So like yeah, I mean, I don't know the last

589
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,639
time I saw a sub that was involved in an assault.

590
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,719
There was a noose involved, right, people were screaming this

591
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,000
is Maga Country during a blizzard polar vortex, and they

592
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:32,280
attacked that famous actor from all of those award winning

593
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,639
movies Juicy smole A and so oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

594
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:40,599
well there, but there's that. That was the first like,

595
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:43,159
and that's the first sign that one of these stories

596
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,400
was not true. Was that in the Juicy smole A attack,

597
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,599
the sub remained intact.

598
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: Right, I'll tell your listeners google Dave Chappelle on this.

599
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's where that is what I why I

600
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:59,400
call him Juicy Smolle. It is an homage to Dave Chappelle. Chris,

601
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,039
I appreciate the call, buddy, good to hear from you. No,

602
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:08,000
that's the clear sign that one of these cases was

603
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:13,440
not a real assault because the subs after the assaults

604
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:19,239
take place, the subs are in different states. One was

605
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,880
in Chicago and one was in DC, but that's not

606
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,280
what I'm talking about. I'm talking about one was intact.

607
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,880
Jesse Smollett's sub remains completely intact, but this sub disintegrated

608
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,760
upon impact. I'll leave it to you to decide which

609
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,400
one may or may not have been the actual sub assault.

610
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All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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