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on the podcast, you would not have heard the call
that we got at the very end of the hour
in hour number two, right before the newscast. And it's
a person who goes by various different names, and so
I was kind of curious why he fixed different names.
That's what prompted me to ask the caller who gave
us the name of Spalding. But that was not his
real name, I don't think, And maybe that was his
real name, but he called in the other day under
the name of Chester. He called in yester day under
another name, and I forget what the other name was
that he called in. But and there's also a bit
of a delay, and that I noticed the first time
I talked with him last week, I think it was
when he called in as Chester and and me being
a radio broadcast veteran as I am, and one who
has worked in various forms, first as a reporter and
then as a host, and I like, I can tell
when there is some technical thing going on on the line.
And I'm not sure if he realizes this or not,
but there's a bit of a delay, which is indicative
of a recording taking place. And so that's what I
detected the last time, was a bit of a delay,
And after the call was over, and I thought, oh,
that's interesting, like, I think I think he may have
been recording me. And it turns out he was. He
has a YouTube channel and he apparently Look, I'm not
I am not knocking anybody's hobbies. Okay, it may not
be for me, it may not be for you. But
if somebody is getting enjoyment out of doing some you know, hobby,
then that's fine. I have no problem with it. I
don't have any problem with him recording me. And you know,
from his end of the conversation and putting it on
his YouTube channel where his what did we just see
was we looked it up during the break seventy eight subscribers. So,
as Tony points out on the text line, he's not
making a killing. No, that's true. Look, look, content creation
is difficult. Okay, take it from me. I've been doing
this a while. Creating good content is difficult. There was
an old programming director I had years ago. He said,
everybody can do a show. Everybody can do a three
hour show, right, you get enough advanced notice, right, you
put together enough stories and prep and that sort of stuff.
Everybody's got a show in them. And most people probably
have a week's where the shows that they could that
they could do. But can you do a month? Can
you do a year? Can you do five? Can you
do ten? And here's the thing, it's a bit of
a an industry secret for Chester. You never know until
you do it. That's the secret. You never know until
you do it. There's no way to know if you
can do a decade or two decades in this format,
in this media. There's no way to know if you've
got that in you until you actually hit that milestone.
And so like, at some point, maybe it might be tomorrow,
it could be today, and I will have nothing left
to say. I will feel like I have exhausted all
of my talking, which my wife would probably be very
happy to hear that. No, And so look, I'm not
going to knock him in his hobby. I'm not going
to knock the what he thinks is some sort of
a niche that he is serving. It's not a very
big one, but that's okay, that's all right, like to
each their own. But what keeps me going is the
question of, like, what are you doing this for now.
If it's simply sort of a masturbatory kind of a
thing and that's all you're in it for is to
hear yourself on your own YouTube channel like that, that's
one thing. If it's for another reason, then that's usually
going to be more. It's gonna you're more likely to
have longevity because if you're doing it for some other reason,
which is why I got into this in the first place.
And I've talked about this for years because it has
been my motivating philosophy going back twenty five years. First
as a reporter, which was the fundamental role of the
free press, which is to hold government accountable, to inform
the citizenry so the people can make decisions on their
elected officials and the direction of the country and which
policies to support, and so that's been my motivation. That's
why I do what I do. And I moved into
the hosting position from the reporter position because as a
reporter you're constrained, you're not giving opinions on stuff. But
most importantly to me was I was very limited in
the amount of time I had to tell a story
or to go over a topic. And with the long
form format like this, I can go into lots of details.
And some people say, please Pete stop, there's too many details,
But I just ignore them and I just plow ahead
and I just keep going because that's to me. This
is another lesson from Limbaugh, which this Chester guy he
goes by the on the YouTube he's got the what
is it called the seminar Caller, that's what he calls
his channel, which was an homage to Rush because Rush
Limbaugh used to call them seminar callers, and they would
always start just like this guy did Chester with saying, oh,
I was a lifelong Republican, right and by the way,
I did. I listened to like the first ten seconds
of one of those clips where he claims to have
voted for Trump in twenty sixteen. And so congratulations Chester,
You and I have voted for Donald Trump exactly the
same amount of times. Yeah, I did not vote for
Trump in the first two races. I did vote for
him last time. And I explained all of this in
twenty four I wrote a whole lot bet about it
at the Blaze, which was I voted for Trump as
my protest vote, which I always use my presidential vote
as a protest vote because I always would usually vote
for a Libertarian for president. In twenty twenty when he
was running AI, I left it blank. I just left
it blank. I I just I didn't want to anybody,
And it's a little protest vote. All. It's my vote,
but I can do with it what I want, and
I choose to use it as a protest and I did.
In twenty four I protested the Democrat media establishment, the
deep staters, the weaponization of the intelligence community, but most
importantly it was the media. It was a protest vote
against the media that was gaslighting me and telling me
that the president of the United States was not in
cognitive decline. And because I know the media is going
to hold Donald Trump to a standard, that they are
not holding Joe Biden to or Kamala Harris to, nor
that they held Obama to. I was there, I saw
the whole thing. I covered it and became a host
during that time period. I am intimately aware of the
way the media covered Obama. I knew the media was
going to treat Donald Trump differently. They would hold him
more to account than they can any Democrat. So I
voted for him in twenty four So there's my backstory,
my origin story, and chester, if you're still recording, put
this into your clip, because YouTube rewards you for a
longer clip rather than the short ones you're putting up there.
I'm not actually sure you've been shadow band, buddy. I
think it's because your content is too short. See, because
you're not staying on the calls long enough because you're
saying probably stupid stuff, and then they suss you out
and you get ditched off the phones, and so your
clips are too short. You got to go longer than
ten minutes. So this is my gift to you. Take
this segment, tack it on to that call, put it
onto your YouTube channel, and now you'll have at least
one clip of longer than ten minutes and that might
help boost your reach. I mean, not much, but it
might help a little because I'm a giver, all right.
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couple of tweets on the Twitter machine. Apparently people have
some thoughts about our seminar caller, so let's see. This
is from Melissa who says Chester does a disservice to
all cheeto lovers in the nation. Mmmm, it's Chester cheat. Okay.
Robert says, per your sage broadcasting advice, anyone can do
one three hour show, Well, anyone except Alec Baldwin. Look,
I will say this if you've never heard the Alec
Baldwin audio when he filled in I forget for whom,
but they he got some radio slot and they I
think it was a fill in slot, and like every
five seconds or ten seconds, he was saying do we
have anybody yet? As called in give the number again?
And then a right, do we have anybody now? And
to this day I'm not sure if that wasn't a bit.
I still don't know if Alec Baldwin was just doing
a radio bit. I mean, it wasn't funny, but like that,
I think that was what he was going for. If
it was a bit that he was trying to just
do this sort of awkward humor, you know, which has
become very popular. But so he was way ahead of
his time because that was like what fifteen years ago
or something. And I never did listen to the to
the whole show that he did because the first you know,
five minutes of it was just excruciating. It. It was
just bad. But again, I still to this day do
not know if that was actually a bit to the
text line, Zach says, your conversation with Chuck had me chuckling. Well,
you know, he went by Spalding. Today he has called me.
I believe it's now four times. See here's the thing.
I have a bit of an uncanny memory when it
comes to this sort of thing. I remember people when
they call me and I talked to them. I remember
the sounds of people's voices and so, and certain things
that occur on the on the phone and like the
pauses and stuff like that. So and I don't know
if everybody does that, I'm not sure, but I do.
I hear it. I can recognize somebody's voice pretty quickly.
And and so when he called, and he also uses
very weird names, which is a that's a tell as well.
So you may want to go with like a a
name like Tony or Sean, so I can I could
recognize the voices, but if you were to use just
like a regular name, it would be more difficult. But
he went by Chester, not Chuck, went by Chester. Sean says,
I love your ability to dismantle these callers who call
you in bad faith while keeping it entertaining for the listener.
Keep up the good work. Thank you, Sean. I appreciate it.
I know I appreciate that you appreciate what it was
that I was doing and that I do. Okay, so
I'm gonna if Chester is even still listening for you know,
content creation purposes, because so number one, No, Chester, I
do not believe that you are a Republican or ever
have been a Republican. I think you are of the left.
And here's the thing. I am perfectly willing and able,
which may explain why he doesn't want to do so.
But I am perfectly willing to engage with you on
the substance of an issue, whatever the issue happens to be.
I'm fine doing that. Now. If you don't want to
do that, and you would just prefer to be a troll,
then you're going to get the troll treatment because like
I'm perfectly capable of doing that as well. My preference
is always to go over the details, do the context,
offer nuance, have a discussion because I believe and I've
said it many times, probably one hundreds, if not thousands
of times over the course of my career, which is unchallenged.
Ideas are easy to hold and you don't really know
your own argument fully if you don't know your opponent's argument.
So if you would like to call and have a
debate and argument in the you know, the classical rhetorical style,
not like yelling and screaming argument. But if you're if
you are interested in having a discussion about topics, I'm
happy to do that and you can. You are free
to disagree, and you could make your case and I
will offer counterpoints and maybe I will end up agreeing
with you on some stuff. That's possible as well. But
if you are just simply in it for the trolls,
well then again I'm gonna I'm going to engage with
you as you engage with me, and that's always been
my standard for every caller. I engage with them as
they engage with me. Alice says Pete, thanks for that,
You're welcome, And Jeff says seminar call or. I would
attach a jiff of a cat playing with a ball
of twine, but I'm guessing the system would block it.
I don't Yeah, I don't know. I've seen people post
gifts in here. I think. I don't know. On the
text line they do, yeah, they do the yeah, the
so okay, So full disclosure. If Chester you're still listening,
or Spalding or whatever your name is, if you're still listening,
so full disclosure. You know, people say, why do you
take these calls? Pete? You know they you know they
must drive you crazy, and this and that and and
you know you get you know, somebody will say, if
I'm arguing with them, why do you get mad? You
shouldn't calm down all that stuff. It's like, I don't
get mad. I'm not getting angry. Does a cat get
angry at its ball of yarn? Does a dog get
angry at its bone? No? Like this, this is fun.
This is me toying with you. So I'm not sure
if that's going to influence your discussion or your your
decision in the future to call back. But again, like
if you engage in bad faith, then I toy with you.
That's that's that's what I do. That's look, that's what
I do. I Look, I am self aware. I know
this about myself. I tell people about that. But again,
I would prefer that we have a discussion about the
merits of a particular topic, that you know, the actual
policies or something. Which is also why, like I can
suss out pretty quickly when you start your uh, when
you start your call with a bad faith question, that's
not really a question that's seeking illumination. It's a question
meant to accuse, right with It's an ulterior motive. It's
an interrogating tactic, which I recognize. I've been known to
use it myself. So yeah, that's that's a dead giveaway
right out of the gate. Most hosts can suss that
out immediately. So just as a tip for you, don't
start off with a stupid bad faith question, because then
the gig is up. Do do do you do?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: This is from Joseph that goofy lib calling you and
even Brett a right wing authoritarian, because as an actual
right wing authoritarian, I can assure him that you two
are not right wing authoritarians. Uh, let say, uh, there's
something more here. The real debate over the future is
actually between the libertarian conservative wing versus the populist national wing.
Right now, Libs are basically sidelined getting triggered by American
Eagle ads. That's Joseph is correct. There the fight right
now inside of the Republican Party. There is a there's
a schism between the the populist nationalist wing and the
conservatives and uh, a lot of old school libertarian types.
Chester must record his call ins for his hand in
order to get paid. It's like his time sheet. Oh
that's a good I had not considered that we have
call our idea. Let's go with Chuckster. That's Chester. Haven't
heard from Tony in a while. I always liked it
when he tried to make you look like a fool
and it never worked out for him. Yeah, that's true.
Russ pointed out on Twitter that he says, I'm really
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I'm shocked we're not hearing from Mike, Daisy, Tony, Jackie,
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get to the sub chucker in a minute. First, Ray,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Hello, Ray, Hey, Pete. How you doing? Hey?
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right? What's going on?
Speaker 2: I wanted to make a comment about your comment about
the Ponzi scheme of Social Security and Chester?
Speaker 1: Okay? But uh is it one comment about both of
those or is it one comment per topic?
Speaker 2: One comment per topic?
Speaker 1: All right, So we got to we have a quota here, Okay,
So I just want to make sure you're under the quota. Okay, Yeah,
I want to make sure you're under the quota.
Speaker 2: Okay, But any anyway, Chester, those kind of callers, Uh,
I think I figured out a long time ago why
you and other hosts take those calls. It used to
I used to think, well, you know, why do you
take those calls? But another part of you just toying
with him, like the ball of yarn cat, I would
think would be that, you know, it's part of the
job of a host to try to change I guess,
hearts and minds and make people see the other side
of an argument when they can't defend their argument. Instead
of just calling names, and I think that's that's why
radio hosts like you and the others do it.
Speaker 1: And also, well, I'll stop you there and say you
are correct in large measure. I never I don't ever
engage with an argument or in an argument with a
person with the expectation that I'm going to convince them
they are wrong. Right, because most people, especially if you're
calling into a radio show, there's all you know, there's
a pressure there. You know, people are listening, you want
to perform, You're gonna stick to your guns, You're gonna,
you know, scramble for any argument. And so I get that.
So my purpose is to never convince somebody that they're wrong.
My purpose is to, uh, is to shed light on
their argument, so everybody else that's listening to the argument
agrees with me.
Speaker 2: Because those yeah, point maybe I didn't or.
Speaker 1: No, oh yeah, no, no, I said you are correct
in large measure. I just wanted to, yeah, to clarify, like,
I'm not trying to convince Chester. I'm trying to convince
you everybody else that's listening that maybe doesn't have an
opinion about a particular subject.
Speaker 2: And that's what I was, you know, I was trying
to say. And and the other point is, these these
people that call in like this, they don't realize a
lot of times they're they're harming their own side of
the argument. They'recause brings back, you know, sort of the
old saying I heard a long time ago from somebody.
It's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought
a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
Speaker 1: Yes, but Ray, why did you just you divulge the secret?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was worried about doing that thing.
Speaker 1: Why are you telling him that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But anyway, that's a heads up for Chester that
maybe he shouldn't have got.
Speaker 1: See Ray is Ray, you are also a giver, I
can tell.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Peter. The other thing on the Social
Security I've heard other people make remarks, and I've always
thought it was a Ponsi scheme. And I've heard other
people make remarks, two or three people I've talked with,
and they make the good talking points that it's for
this reason or that reason, it's not a Ponzi scheme
because the government's involved, et cetera, et cetera. And you know,
I read a book one time, well, I bought a book.
It was something like social Security for dummies, and it
was written by the AAARP, which we know how that is.
And also you know they've made the same points in
there that they had various reasons, and they were good
reasons that Social Security is not a ponzi scheme for
this reason or that. But I think I think you
can confirm, and I wish you would, that Social Security
really is legalized ponzi scheme? Am I correct on that?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's my view of it. I've heard
also people make the argument that it is not. I
don't find those arguments to be persuasive. My assessment is
from my understanding of a ponzi scheme is that it
is asking people to buy in with the promise of
a return at a later date. And what the supporters
will say is that the Social Security is not because
there is a guarantee from the government that you will
get paid your money back. But I don't believe that
to be a guarantee. So yeah, right, I don't either
pay right, And that's why I suspect at some point,
like yes, you may get your money back from the
Social Security Administration, but they may also or the government
may also then be taxing you on all sorts of
other retirement investment vehicles like the four to one K,
which when you cash out, when you start drawing down,
I should say, when you start taking your payment, you're
going to be paying an income tax on that, and
so what are the income taxes going to be?
Speaker 2: McCollum, I apologize for giving away one of the secrets about.
Speaker 1: Its all right, Ray, I appreciate it, Yes, sir, you
two to take care. Speaking of Social Security, I just
saw this. The President just did another Q and a
kind of announcement from the Oval Office. He was talking
about Social Security and he's talking about the transformation of
the program after four years of mismanagement. He says they
have reduced field office weight times by thirty percent, they
have reduced call weight times by eighty percent while handling
twice as many calls, and they now have twenty four
to seven three sixty five online account access. So some
of the reforms that I'm assuming this is related to
the DOGE stuff. Remember when they when they were going
through and they were identifying all of these you know,
antiquated systems and stuff. So I suspect that's got something
to do with it. But yeah, the modernization is long
long overdue. All right, have you heard the story about
the sub chucker, a guy who threw a sub at
a cop in DC or I think it was DC. Yeah,
because it wasn't a cop. I think it was actually
a National guardsman or something, but it may have been
a police officer. I've got the story here. I'll get
to in a minute. I just would point out, like
Stephen Miller over at the Spectator making a prediction that
Jim Acosta is apparently now going to interview an AI
generated Jared Fogel for a response to the sub assault. Terrible, terrible.
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I believe you carry out your purpose quite well. You
allow them to sound like the dumbasses that they really are. Well,
thank you. I appreciate that Jamie um insurance is not
a Ponzi scheme. No, Brian, I don't agree. I don't
believe in insurance is its own thing. Like you're betting
you're not gonna die. So you buy the life policy
and they're betting you will die at some point or
no vice versas sorry, you're betting. Yeah, you're betting you
will die. There, they're betting it that you won't. So
Mike says social Security is an unfunded pension program, and
somebody says, my wife had to talk to social Security
and can't speak to anyone until October. Good lord, that's terrible.
Try the website. Okay, So let me get to this
sub chucker story. It's a terrible, terrible story. New York
Post a man who used a subway sandwich to attack.
I don't know why I said it, like that he
used a subway sandwich, which, okay, do we know it
was a subway sandwich. It was definitely like a foot long.
It was a sub or but like that could have
come from steak in HOGI, you know, Jersey. Mike's like,
I did not see the rapper. It was night, it
was dark, couldn't really make out the The wrapper of
the video is grainy, you know, so I couldn't really
tell if it was actually a subway sandwich. But either way,
they're getting a ton of publicity out of all of
this because a guy used the sandwich to attack a
federal agent on the streets of Washington, DC earlier this week. So,
if you haven't seen the video, some like raging lunatic
in like a pink polo shirt or something and some
khaki shorts walks up to one of these federal agents
that are there as part of the mobilization of troops
to help clamp down on crime in Washington, DC, and
he starts berating one of these officers, like gets right
up in his face. He's like three or four feet
away from him, maybe closer. He's yelling at him and
yelling at him. The officer's not doing anything, just standing there.
And finally the guy just takes the sub in his
hand like he had obviously just purchased this sub. It's
a fully wrapped looks like a brand new sub and
he just throws it at the at the cops chest,
which obviously did not end well for him. Okay, he
was he was taken down. He started running away, but
they chased him down, they took him down, they arrested him,
and now he has been identified as Sean Charles Dunn,
thirty seven years old, and he is now being charged
with a felony, which I'm torn on this one because
on the one hand, I have no tolerance you lay
hands on a on an agent, on a law enforcement
like you lay hands on them like you yeah, you
get what the laws coming, and like that's usually a felony.
So like on that front, I'm fine. On the other hand,
it's it's a sub. You know, it was a sandwich,
so like it's not it's not like assault with a
deadly weapon, right, although I say that, I'm not really
sure what was in the sub, So like if it
was some hard salami like that might be that could be.
Or what if it was like a bunch of those
hot peppers, like you put a bunch of the peppercinos
or whatever in there, like some really hot jalipinos, like
some of that could have splashed into an eye that
like maybe, So I'd have to know. I would have
to know what the ingredients on the sub were. I think,
like was it a number six or was it a
number eight? You know, I think that should be part
of the mitigating or extenuating circumstances or aggravating circumstances, I
should say.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: The criminal case was announced yesterday by DC attorney US
Attorney Janine Piro, who said in a statement that quote,
the police are not out there to get pushed around
or beat up. Done was allegedly captured, Well, he wasn't
allegedly captured on video. He was captured on video. He
was shouting at that a group of federal officers were fascists,
before whipping his Deli sandwich at them and striking a
US Customs and Border Protection agent in the chest, which
I know what you're thinking. Yes, the agent did appear
to be wearing a vest which took most of the impact,
so it's good news, like, thank goodness, And yes it was,
and it was one of the outer carrier vests, it appeared,
so it wasn't one that was like under his uniform
or anything like. Our CMPD chief demanded and refused to
let the tactical vests be used for our officers until,
of course, he was shamed publicly into doing so, and
then he got his feelings hurt about the shaming, and
so he went and said he was going to sue
the city. Never actually sued the city, but the city
council paid him a bunch of money anyway, And now
he's retiring. So anyway, like they were wearing the outer
carrier vests, which I think in this case, I don't
want to exaggerate this at all, but I think it's
pretty clear that saved the agent's life, right. The criminal
complaint says that Donn confessed to a DC police officer,
so he cracked, he broke. He immediately broke under interrogation,
saying I did it. I threw a sandwich Sean Davis
at the Federalist. And this has now been confirmed that
the sub chucker was hired into the Department of Justice.
This guy is a DOJ employee. He was hired in
twenty twenty two during the Biden administration. He was promoted
right before Donald Trump took over. He served as a
non attorney specializing in international affairs. He has been fired,
as I understand it now, which yes, obviously he should be. Wait, Chris,
Chris wanted to talk about this too. Hello Chris, welcome
to the show Man.
Speaker 3: You stole my thunder. Sorry, good job, good jobs. But
here's a little caveat I sawn TikTok. It was outside
of a gay club, so I know, be on a
shadow of a doubt, it had to be a meat
ballt Mayor and Aioso.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. No, you know what, I'm curious, did
anybody scream this is Maga Country.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they did it. It was running down the
street probably.
Speaker 1: So like yeah, I mean, I don't know the last
time I saw a sub that was involved in an assault.
There was a noose involved, right, people were screaming this
is Maga Country during a blizzard polar vortex, and they
attacked that famous actor from all of those award winning
movies Juicy smole A and so oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
well there, but there's that. That was the first like,
and that's the first sign that one of these stories
was not true. Was that in the Juicy smole A attack,
the sub remained intact.
Speaker 3: Right, I'll tell your listeners google Dave Chappelle on this.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's where that is what I why I
call him Juicy Smolle. It is an homage to Dave Chappelle. Chris,
I appreciate the call, buddy, good to hear from you. No,
that's the clear sign that one of these cases was
not a real assault because the subs after the assaults
take place, the subs are in different states. One was
in Chicago and one was in DC, but that's not
what I'm talking about. I'm talking about one was intact.
Jesse Smollett's sub remains completely intact, but this sub disintegrated
upon impact. I'll leave it to you to decide which
one may or may not have been the actual sub assault.
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