Speaker 1: Okay, I want you to close your eyes for a second,
just for a moment. Imagine you are standing on a
piece of ground that billions of people considered the absolute
center of the.
Speaker 2: World, the focal point.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Maybe you're navigating the limestone steps of the
Old City in Jerusalem, or maybe you're barefoot on the
cool marble of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, where you.
Speaker 2: Could be shivering in the thin air of the Andes,
looking down into this perfectly circular, dark lake, and you.
Speaker 1: Feel something everyone who goes to these places describes it
is this. It's a vibration, a hum. The hair in
the back of your arms stands up. Now, usually we
call that a spiritual experience. We say, oh, it's the
weight of history, or faith, or just raw human emotion.
But here's the provocation I want to start with. What
if that electricity you feel isn't metaphorical? What if it
is literal?
Speaker 2: It's a question that feels, I don't know, almost dangerous
to even ask, doesn't it because we have been trained
our whole lives to keep those two worlds completely separate.
Physics goes in the lab faith goes in the temple.
But if you actually go back to the source material.
If you read the texts without the filter of you know,
two thousand years of theology, that separation just vanishes.
Speaker 1: It's not there.
Speaker 2: It's not. To the ancients, the holy and the high
tech weren't just similar, they were the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: Welcome to thrilling threads, Ah, I am so ready to
pull on this one. You know the drill. We take
a stack of articles, ancient texts and scientific reports and
we just pull out the loose threads to see what unravels.
Speaker 2: And this one is a big one.
Speaker 1: And today the thread we are holding connects the world's
biggest religions, ancient mythology, and well astrophysics.
Speaker 2: It is a massive synthesis. And I think for a
lot of people this is going to be a challenging listen,
because we are looking at i mean, the startling commonalities
between the world's most sacred sites. Yeah, Jerusalem, Meccha, Bethlehem,
and even as you said, South America. The mission for
this far, our time here is to explore the theory
that these locations weren't just chosen for prayer, they were
chosen for contact.
Speaker 1: Contact. I love that word. It implies a two Way Street.
It's not just us shouting into the void, it's someone
or something answering back.
Speaker 2: Precisely, we are investigating the premise that these sites are,
for lack of a better term, communication hubs, or to
put it in more modern terms, they are terminals.
Speaker 1: So the airport theory of religion, I've heard this floated
in a sense.
Speaker 2: Yes, if you operate under the theory that the divine
might be a primitive interpretation of extraterrestrial or interdimensional, then
you absolutely need a place for that contact to occur.
You need a landing zone, a port.
Speaker 1: I know how this sounds to the skeptics listening right now.
They're thinking, here we go again. We've got magic carpets,
we've got demon builders, we've got gold shielded spacecraft.
Speaker 2: It sounds like pure fantasy.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the script for a summer blockbuster. But
what I love about the research you've brought today is
that we are speculating wildly. You're grounding this in the
actual text, right, This isn't just made up.
Speaker 2: That is the only way to do it. It has
to be. We have to look at the historical records,
the physical anomalies found at these sites, and the specific
language used by the ancients. It is very, very easy
to dismiss things as magic.
Speaker 1: It's the simplest explanation in.
Speaker 2: A way, it is. But when you strip away the
miracle label, the descriptions that are left often sound a
lot like misunderstood technology.
Speaker 1: It's the classic cargo called scenario Arthur C. Clark's law
right quote, any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Speaker 2: Exactly. If I travel back in time with a lighter,
I'm a fire wizard. If I bring a drone, I
am quite literally a.
Speaker 1: God, an angel, a messenger from this guy.
Speaker 2: You use the vocabulary you have. If you don't have
the word for radiation, you say the glory of the Lord.
If you don't have the word for heavy machinery, you
say beast or as we'll see demon. Our job today
is to try and translate it back.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the evidence. We have to
start at the absolute center, the Temple Mount.
Speaker 2: The Temple Mount in the Old City of Jerusalem. It
is arguably the most contested, most sacred, and most intense
thirty five acres on the entire planet.
Speaker 1: It's physically imposing too. I mean, if you've seen pictures
of it. It's this massive stone plateau, and it's the
ultimate intersection. You have Christianity, Judaism and Islam all converging
on this one specific rectangle of dirt.
Speaker 2: It is the heart of the Holy Land, and the
history there is just it's incredibly layered. For Jews and Christians,
this is Mount Mariah. This is the specific spot where
Abraham bound Isaac and prepared to sacrifice him as described
in Genesis twenty two.
Speaker 1: Which is a heavy story in itself, I mean, the
ultimate test of compliance, a story that shapes three.
Speaker 2: Faiths, incredibly heavy. And then for Muslims, this exact same
site is sacred because it is from the rock, the
foundation stone where the Dome of the Rock stands today,
that the prophet Mohammed ascended into Heaven during the night journey.
Speaker 1: So everyone agrees this is the spot, This is the
elevator to the sky, This is the connection point. But
my question is always why why this specific spot? Why
not the hill next door, why not a valley ten
miles away? What is so special about this piece of
real estate?
Speaker 2: That's the key question. A researcher, Philip Coppins, who spent
a lot of time on this put it very interestingly.
He said that while we have this mixture of three religions,
the origin of the site is singular. It is a
place where God touched down on planet Earth.
Speaker 1: Touched down. That phrasing sticks out to me. It sounds mechanical.
It sounds like an arrival, like a pilot talking about
a landing exactly.
Speaker 2: The theory is that this isn't just a place where
you feel close to God emotionally. It's a place where
communication with the divine realm or the sky is physically possible.
It's a communications hub.
Speaker 1: So if we're using the airport analogy, this is the
main terminal, the grand central station for the divine.
Speaker 2: Yes, if you interpret the divine as beings from the sky,
then the Temple mount is the tarmac primary landing zone.
Speaker 1: And this goes back way before the modern era. We
have to talk about the temple itself, the structure that
was built there. King David conquered the site, but he
didn't build the temple right correct.
Speaker 2: David conquered Jerusalem and made it his capital around one
thousand BC. He felt that the site had a blessing
about it, that it was destined to be the center
of life. He wanted to build a house for.
Speaker 1: The Lord, a permanent residence, a.
Speaker 2: Permanent residence for God on earth. But the Bible says
he was forbidden to do it. The reason given is
that he was a man of war, he had too
much blood on his hands.
Speaker 1: So the job falls to his son, Solomon, Solomon.
Speaker 2: The Wise King. He completed the first temple around nine
hundred and fifty seven BC. And this is where the
story shifts from let's say, pious history to something that
sounds a lot like technological wizardry.
Speaker 1: I love the Solomon legends. In Sunday School. You hear
he was wise, he knew about plants and animals. But
if you dig into the apocrypha, the texts that didn't
make the final edit of the Bible, he's basically a sorcerer.
Speaker 2: He is attributed with some extraordinary capabilities. And this is
where we have to look at a text known as
the Testament of Solomon. It's not in the standard Bible,
but it was widely read in the ancient world. It
was a known text.
Speaker 1: Now, what does it say about the construction.
Speaker 2: It's just that Solomon didn't build this massive, complex temple
using just paid laborers and chisels. It says he used
a magic ring, the Seal of Solomon, to control demons.
Speaker 1: Demons. Okay, so right away we hear demons and our
modern brain thinks of, you know, red horns, pitchforks, spiritual evil.
But we're looking at this through a different lens today,
right We.
Speaker 2: Need to be linguists for a second. The Greek word
is damon. It didn't necessarily mean evil in the way
we use it. It meant a spirit, a lesser deity,
or simply a powerful non human force, a force, a force.
If we strip away the medieval theology for a moment
and just look at the function. What is a demon
in this context?
Speaker 1: What do they do while they were building, right, they
were cutting these enormous stones, moving them exactly.
Speaker 2: They were on human force that possessed immense strength and
could be controlled by a specific device, the ring, to
perform heavy labor. Think about that description.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a bulldozer or a crane, or some
kind of laser potterer. It sounds like a machine.
Speaker 2: Or a robotic workforce. Marvin Meyer, a scholar in the subject,
points out that the ring gave Solomon the ability to
accomplish things beyond what mortals could usually accomplish. If you
were a person living in nine hundred and fifty BC
and you saw a machine lifting a ten ton stone
block with no visible effort.
Speaker 1: I'd say it was a beast, a monster, a demon.
It's the only frame of reference I have exactly.
Speaker 2: You use the vocabulary you have. It's loud, it's strong,
it's not human, and it's probably scary. So it's a demon.
And the ring.
Speaker 1: The ring is the keyfob, it's the controller, the interface.
Speaker 2: That's it. It's the control device.
Speaker 1: That is such a cool reframe. It makes Solomon less
of a mystic and more of an operator. He had
the keys to the heavy machinery. He knew the password.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't just ancient storytellers who were suspicious of
Temple's construction. Sir Isaac Newton, the gravity Guy, the father
of modern physics, was obsessed with it.
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite fun facts. Newton wrote
more about theology and alchemy than he ever did about physics.
He was a mystic at.
Speaker 2: Heart, he really was. And Isaac Newton spent a huge
amount of his life studying the architecture and geometry of
Solomon's temple. He believed the building itself, its very proportions,
encoded secret knowledge.
Speaker 1: Wait, so the smartest guy the Enlightenment, the man who
basically invented calculus, thought a religious building from one thousand
BC was a scientific puzzle.
Speaker 2: A huge one. Newton felt the temple was architecturally advanced,
beyond the capacity of the time. It was aligned with
incredible precision. Astronomically, the measurements the sacred cubits seemed to
correspond to the harmonic ratios of the solar system.
Speaker 1: That's uncuttly.
Speaker 2: He suspected that Solomon possessed a level of technology or
secret wisdom about the universe that had been lost.
Speaker 1: If Isaac Newton looks at a blueprint and says, hey,
the math here shouldn't exist yet, that is a massive
red flag for me. That's a huge thread to pull on.
Speaker 2: It implies that the knowledge didn't come from human trial
and error. It was given or it was found inherited.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have the building, a demon built precision facility.
But buildings are just shells. We need to talk about
what was inside the furniture, specifically the arc of the covenant.
Speaker 2: Ugh, the arc. Yes, we usually picture it from Raiders
of the Lost Arc, melting faces and all that, which,
by the way, is not that far off from some
of the biblical descriptions of its power. Really, oh absolutely Biblically,
it was the focal point of the Holy of Holies,
that innermost perfectly cubical room of the Temple.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just a jewelry box for the Ten Commandments. Yeah,
it was dangerous.
Speaker 2: Very Moses was given extremely specific instructions on how to
build it. Gold inside, acacia wood in the middle, gold outside.
If you look at that layout, any electrical engineer will
tell you that is basically a capacitor. It's designed to
store and discharge energy.
Speaker 1: And later we see that it had to be handled
with extreme care with these long poles, and no one
touched it directly.
Speaker 2: Right there is the famous story of Uza. The arc
is being moved on a cart, the oxen stumble and Uza,
just reacting instinctively, reaches out to steady it and he
drops dead. He drops dead instantly. The text says he
was struck down by God's anger. But what if it
wasn't anger, what if it was just physics?
Speaker 1: High voltage or radiation. That brings up the idea of
shielding it does.
Speaker 2: It was placed in the Holy of Holies, a room
only the high priest could enter and only once a
year on Yam Kapor. He had to wear special linen investments.
Some traditions say he had a rope tied.
Speaker 1: Around his ankle, so if he had a heart attack
or or got zapped in there, they could drag him
out without going in themselves exactly.
Speaker 2: Now, think about that. That is not how you treat
a religious symbol. That is how you treat a reactor core.
You put the dangerous device in a shielded room, thick
stone walls, and you limit exposure. You have safety protocols,
and is.
Speaker 1: Described as God's throne right the mercy seat.
Speaker 2: Yes, the mercy seat, the place where God reigned between
the two cherubim on the lid. But if you combine
that with the danger, the specific construction, and the fact
that it was used for communication, Moses spoke to God
through it. Ancient astronaut theorists argue it was a device,
a machine transmitter, the weapon, a power source, or all three.
Speaker 1: So the theory goes, Solomon uses his demon machinery to
build a high tech hangar, the temple two house or
radioactive communication device, the arc.
Speaker 2: That is the theory in a nutshell, and it suggests
that the wisdom of Solomon wasn't just philosophical, it was
actually technical. Know how he knew the startup sequence, he
had the user manual.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Solomon and technology, that seems out of place.
We have to talk about the carpet.
Speaker 2: The magic carpet.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is usually the stuff of Disney movies. It
feels like pure fantasy, but it's in the actual religious traditions.
Speaker 2: It is. Both Islamic texts and Jewish mid Rush describe
Solomon having a vast carpet made of green silk.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't a rug for his living room.
Speaker 2: No, the descriptions are very clear. It was large enough
for his throne and all his forces to stand on.
Speaker 1: Whoa wait, his forces as in his army, soldiers, his soldiers,
his entire entourage. The texts say the wind would cutch
it and transport them wherever he commanded at incredible speed.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, let's apply the cargo cult logic here. I'm
a shepherd in the desert in nine to fifty BC.
I look up and I see a massive, flat green
platform hovering in the air with an army of men
standing on it. What do I call it? You call
it a carpet. It's the only large, flat woven thing
you know that sits on the ground. If it's in
the air, well, it's a flying carpet. What other word
could you possibly use that is wild?
Speaker 1: It completely changes as the visual. It's not a laddin
on a little rug. It's a troop, transport carrier. It's
a platform.
Speaker 2: It really reframes the folklore. Was Solomon in contact with
extraterrestrials who provided him with a transport crab to manage
his kingdom? It would certainly explain how he moved forces
around so quickly and projected power across such a wide region.
Speaker 1: It really changes the image of the wise king sitting
on a rug. It becomes a commander on a hover carrier,
directing his troops.
Speaker 2: And that leads us to the next logical question, a
question of resources. If these gods or visitors are providing technology,
these powerful tools like shields, transmitters, transport platforms, what do
they want in return?
Speaker 1: Ah the fee the price of doing business. Nothing is free,
even in the ancient world, the.
Speaker 2: Fee and that takes us from the deserts of the
Middle East, across the ocean to the mountains of South
America to El Dorado. Yes, the Golden Connection.
Speaker 1: I think most people hear El Dorado and they think
of a city of gold, you know, a shimmering metropolis
hidden in the Amazon jungle.
Speaker 2: That's the myth that grew later fueled by the greed
of European conquistadors. But the reality, the source of the
legend is actually a person. El Dorado means the Golden One.
Speaker 1: And this is based on the Miska people in what
is now Columbia right correct.
Speaker 2: Specifically, they are rituals at Lake Guadavida. It's this stunningly
perfect circular mountain lake, which interestingly is believed by a
geologists to be an ancient meteor crater.
Speaker 1: Another connection to the sky, a crater lake. It's like
the Earth is marked like an X on a treasure map.
Speaker 2: Exactly, it's another impact site. So the Muska chief known
as the Zipa, would perform a ritual. He would cover
his entire body in sticky resin and then roll in
fine gold dust until he was literally a living gold statue, talk.
Speaker 1: About a flex that's a serious.
Speaker 2: Statement, an unbelievable statement. He would then be taken out
on a royal barge to the very center of the
crater lake and jump in, washing the gold off his body.
At the same time, his people standing on the shore
would throw golden objects, trinkets, jewelry, emeralds into the lake
as offerings.
Speaker 1: And this isn't just a story, this isn't folklore. We
know this happened because people went looking for the gold.
Speaker 2: We do. In nineteen twelve, a British engineer named Hartley
Knowles actually managed a project to drain part of the lake.
It was an incredible feed of engineering and he recovered
about twenty thousand dollars worth of gold artifacts.
Speaker 1: In nineteen twelve money. That's a fortune today, millions, millions.
Speaker 2: It proved the ritual was real. But here's the big question,
the one that ties it all together. Why why do
gods want gold?
Speaker 1: Right? This always bugged me. If you are an advance
being capable of interstellar travel, why do you care about
a soft yellow metal. You can't eat it, it's too
soft to build the spaceship haul out of it, has
no practical use or so we think why the obsession.
Speaker 2: This is where modern science gives us a very, very
compelling answer. Derek Pitts, the chief astronomer at the Franklin Institute,
breaks this down perfectly. Gold is unique for several reasons. First,
as many people know, it is inert. It doesn't rust,
it doesn't corrode, it doesn't tarnish. It lasts forever.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's durable, good for long term storage. Maybe.
Speaker 2: Second, it is a fantastic conductor of electricity, but better
than copper and many applications because it doesn't oxidize, so
it's used in high end electronics. The third point is
the real clincher. For space travel. Gold is a perfect
reflector of infrared energy. Infrared heat, exactly heat. In space
you have two massive temperature problems, absolute freezing cold when
you're in shadow and the intense searing heat of a
star when you're in the light. You need to shield
your spacecraft, your satellites, your body. If you look at
NASA satellites today or the Apollo Lunar lander, what are
they covered in.
Speaker 1: That crinkly gold foil stuff? You see it in every picture.
Speaker 2: Gold blankets, mil aar coated with a microscopically thin layer
of pure gold. Even the mirrors of the James Webb
Space Telescope are coated in gold. It's not for decoration,
it's to manage infrared radiation.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So the theory proposed by researchers like the controversial Zacharia
Sitchen is that ancient visitors weren't asking for gold because
they were vain or because they like jewelry. They were mining.
They were collecting a vital industrial.
Speaker 1: Resource they needed for repairs, for each fielding, or for survival.
Sitchin had a wilder theory that they might even need
it suspended as fine particles in their home planet's atmosphere
to reflect heat. But on a practical level, if you
have a ship and you've traveled light years and your
heat shielding is damaged, you.
Speaker 2: Need gold and you can't just synthesize it from other elements,
not easily. So you find a planet that has it,
and you get the local intelligent life forms to fetch
it for you. Bring us the shiny yellow metal, and
we will grant you rain or protection or knowledge exactly.
It completely reframes the dynamic. We value gold as money,
they might value it as a utility. It changes the
entire concept of the offering. It's not worship, it's a
supply chain. It's a transaction that blows my mind. The
Zipa jumping into the lake isn't just a religious act.
He's delivering a shipment. He's making a deposit to the
entity living at the bottom of the crater. It certainly
aligns with the cargo cult idea. We mimic the motions.
We still hoard gold today, but we've lost the original
technical reason why.
Speaker 1: Speaking of mimicking motions in circling the Yeah, we need
to go back to the Middle East. We need to
go to Mecca.
Speaker 2: Yes, the Kaba.
Speaker 1: This is another one of these sites that is just
visually stunning, the perfect black cube.
Speaker 2: The Kaba. It sits at the heart of the Grand
Mosque in Mecca. It's a granite structure draped in that
iconic black silk embroidered with gold thread.
Speaker 1: And the history goes back to Abraham again. Right, we're
back to the same family it does.
Speaker 2: Islamic tradition says it was built by Abraham and his
son Ishmael around two thousand BC, making it a sort
of sister site to the original plans for the Temple Mount.
Speaker 1: So we have that direct link to the Temple Mount lineage,
same family, same original builders. We do.
Speaker 2: And the central ritual here is the Hodge. Nearly three
million people come every year. They enter the Grand Mosque
and they circle the kaba seven times counterclockwise. It's called
the Tawaf.
Speaker 1: The energy there must be absolutely insane, just the kinetic
movement of that many people focused on a single.
Speaker 2: Point it is. People describe a palpable energy radiating from
the Kaba itself. Some say it increased the spirituality, others
claim it affects their physical health. But just from a
pure physics standpoint, you have millions of people creating a
massive vortex of kinetic and bioelectric energy around a central point.
Speaker 1: And what is at that central point? What's inside the
cube or more importantly, what's on it? The blackstone?
Speaker 2: The Blackstone, it's embedded in the eastern corner of the kava,
set in a silver frame.
Speaker 1: This is the mystery object. What do we actually know
about it? Where does it come from?
Speaker 2: The legend says it fell from the sky.
Speaker 1: Of course it did, just like the meteor that made
the crater in Colombia. Another object from the heavens.
Speaker 2: Some accounts say that archangel Michael brought it down from
heaven to Adam, and Eve brought it down again.
Speaker 1: That's delivery language, not created, but transported.
Speaker 2: And not just as a rock. The author Eric Vondenikin
highlights a specific tradition that the stone contained information, that
Michael gave Abraham information in written form, and that it
was sealed inside.
Speaker 1: The stone, sealed inside like a hard drive.
Speaker 2: A thumb drive, or a black box from a crashed ship,
or a memory crystal. The language is suggestive of a
container for data.
Speaker 1: And scientifically, the consensus is it's a meteorite, right. That's
the OCAM's razor explanation.
Speaker 2: That is the prevailing scientific view. Yes, most likely a meteorite.
But here is the catch, and it's a big one.
Forensic examination of the Blackstone is strictly forbidden.
Speaker 1: Of course it is.
Speaker 2: You can't touch it, we can't take a sample, we
can't put it under a microscope, we can't do a
spectral analysis. It is preserved strictly as a sacred object.
Its physical nature is off limits.
Speaker 1: Which is fascinating because if it's at a meteorite, the
ancients were absolutely right it literally came from the heavens.
But the secrecy makes you wonder, what if it's not
just rock, what if there's something inside.
Speaker 2: Exactly, whether it's a natural meteorite or an artificial object.
The core belief is correct. This is a piece of
the other world that is now here on Earth, and
the ritual pointing at it, trying to kiss it during
the toaf is an acknowledgment of that celestial origin. It's
like you're saluting the flag of another world.
Speaker 1: It connects right back to the Temple mount. You have
a specific location where an object from the sky, the
arc in that case, the stone here anchors the connection
to the divine.
Speaker 2: It's a physical interface. You don't just pray into the air.
You prey towards the coordinate, towards the device.
Speaker 1: So we've got stones falling from the sky, we've got
gold going into lakes. But there's another geological feature that
keeps popping up in these stories over and over again.
Speaker 2: Caves, the cave paradox. This is one of the most
intriguing patterns because it sort of contradicts the idea that
gods are always in the sky. Sometimes you have to
go down to connect with what's up.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about the Nativity, because every Christmas pageant
I've ever seen, every card I've ever gotten, has a
wooden stable, a barn with a cow and a donkey.
Speaker 2: That's the Western tradition, based on a particular reading of
the Gospels. But if you go to Bethlehem today to
the Church of the Nativity, one of the oldest continuously
operating churches in the world, it is built over.
Speaker 1: A cave, a cave, not a stable, a cave.
Speaker 2: And the proto Evangelium of James, an ancient text that
didn't make the final Bible cup it was very influential,
describes Joseph and Mary stopping at a cave on the way.
Speaker 1: To Bethlehem, and what happens in the cave.
Speaker 2: It says, a brilliant light appeared, a light so intense
it overshadowed the entire pave. It blinded them, and when
the light dissipated, the infant was there.
Speaker 1: That does not sound like a normal birth. That sound
like a teleportation event, a materialization.
Speaker 2: It certainly sounds like an energy event, not a biological one.
And for centuries Byzantine art, Eastern Orthodox art almost always
depicts the Nativity in a cave, not a barn. They
held on to that older tradition.
Speaker 1: And then you fast forward thirty three years to the
end of Jesus's life. The resurrection also a cave.
Speaker 2: The tomb was a hollowed out room in the rock,
sealed with a stone.
Speaker 1: So Divinity enters Earth through a cave and leaves Earth
through a cave.
Speaker 2: That is the pattern. It's an incredible symmetry. It suggests
that caves are portals, gateways, thresholds, gateways, and we may
have a physical artifact that suggests high energy physics was
involved in that departure from the cave. The shroud of turin.
Speaker 1: The shroud, this is the cloth that supposedly covered Jesus's
body in the tomb. Right.
Speaker 2: Yes, And for centuries the debate was is it a painting?
Is it a medieval forgery? But twenty first century analysis,
particularly from the Stirp team, has shown it is a
first century linen garment from the Middle East, and the
image on it, it's not paint, it's not die, it's
not a scorch from a hot object. What is it
that it's a type of scorch, But it's incredibly superficial,
affecting only a top few microfibers of the linen. It
acts like a photographic negative. And get this, it contains
three D information. The intensity of the image varies based
on how far the cloth was from the body. You
cannot paint that, So how did it get there? The
leading scientific theory among those who've studied it is that
an intense, instantaneous burst of radiation energy emanated from the body,
scorching the image onto the cloth.
Speaker 1: So if we're looking at this through our thrilling threads lens,
the resurrection wasn't just a spiritual miracle. It was a
technological event, a massive burst of radiation in a sealed chamber.
Speaker 2: That's the implication, a de materialization event that left a
radiation shadow. And remember the witnesses. The Bible says that
when people came to the tomb, the body was gone,
but they met two shining beings.
Speaker 1: Shining beings angels dressed in white, non human beings who
told them he had departed.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a retrieval team. The package is secure,
he's gone clear the area.
Speaker 1: It does, and this cave connection isn't limited to Christianity.
Uhammad received the Koran from the angel Gabriel in a
cave on man.
Speaker 2: Here right, I forgot about that. The prophet Elijah lived
in a cave on Mount Horeb. In Greek mythology, Zeus
was born and raised in a cave to hide him
from his father. The ancient world is obsessed with the
idea that if you want to talk to the gods,
you go on a ground.
Speaker 1: But why is it just for shelter? Is it just
a quiet place to think?
Speaker 2: Maybe? But maybe it's about shielding again, just like the
Holy shielded the arc, or maybe certain geological locations caves
with high courts content, for instance, act as natural amplifiers
or connection points to other dimensions.
Speaker 1: It reframes the whole underworld concept. The underworld in mythology
isn't always hell in the Christian sense. It's just another place, yeah,
a different realm you access through the Earth.
Speaker 2: It's the hollow earth theory meets stargate. If you connect
it to the bigger picture, it reinforces this core idea
that the locations matter. You can't just do this anywhere.
You need the specific conductivity of the temple mount or
the magnetic anomaly of the cave or the gold reserves
of the Crater Lake.
Speaker 1: It makes the map of the world look very different.
It's not a map of political borders. It's a circuit board.
These are the nodes.
Speaker 2: That is a beautiful analogy, a planetary circuit board, and
we are the ones walking around on top of it
trying to figure out how to plug things in again.
Speaker 1: So let's try to tell all these threads together. Now
we've gone from the gold shielded spacecraft technology of South America.
Speaker 2: To the demon built heavy industry of Solomon's Temple in.
Speaker 1: Jerusalem, to the radiation scarred shroud in a cave in
Judea and the meteorite in Mecca.
Speaker 2: The common thread is that these sacred sites aren't just
places of human projection. They aren't just places where we
collectively decided to be holy. They seem to be places
of physical anomaly, radiation, meteorites, advanced construction techniques, unexplained energy fields.
Speaker 1: It's like we're living in the ruins of a much
more advanced civilization, but we've forgotten it was advanced. We
just think it was magic. We've mythologized the technology exactly.
Speaker 2: I often think that perhaps we have lost the instruction
manual we perform the rituals, we circle the stone, we
wash the gold, we pray in the cave, but we
have forgotten the technological purpose behind them.
Speaker 1: We're pressing buttons on a dead control panel, hoping something
lights up. We're repeating the words we heard the original
operators say, hoping it starts the engine.
Speaker 2: Perhaps the knowledge is left for us to discover. Maybe
the gods, whoever they were, didn't leave it to confuse us.
Maybe they left it as a breadcrumb trail, a puzzle,
waiting for our own technology to catch up so we
can finally understand what the Arc really was, or what
the Blackstone really holds.
Speaker 1: That gives me chills. The idea that the Bible or
the Quran aren't just moral guides, but are also technical
manuals that we haven't decoded yet.
Speaker 2: It's a possibility we have to entertain if we're going
to be honest about what the texts actually say.
Speaker 1: So here is the question for you, the listener, and
I really want you to think about this, to sit
with it. If we were allowed right now today, with
twenty first century technology, to run full scientific tests on
the Arc of the Covenant, or crack open the Blackstone
of Mecca. What do you think we would find?
Speaker 2: That is the ultimate question, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Would we find God or would we find a machine,
a microchip, a power core, a data storage.
Speaker 2: Device, or perhaps, and this is the really mind bending part,
we would find that the distinction we make between God
and machine isn't as clear as we think it is.
Speaker 1: WHOA Okay, I'm going to be thinking about that one
all week. We want to hear your take. Are these
sites airports for the divine or just places where we
hope they're listening. Leave a comment, let us know where.
Speaker 2: You stand on this, and look into the history of
your own local sacred sites. You might be surprised what
physical anomalies you find a hiding in the legends.
Speaker 1: Thanks for pilling these threads with us. It's been a
wild ride. Until next time, keep looking up.