Speaker 1: Tell me what your life was like before you died.
That was at work and I used to unload rail
cars for a college job. And the wall that was stuck,
the wall in between to keep the products in place,
that was stuck. So I heard a climb up and
release the wall. You know, it's a halftone wall, and
and my teammates were you know, pulling underneath. And then
all of a sudden, the wall just gave way and
I slid with the wall all the way across and
I got in the wall stopped by my job.
Speaker 2: My job got crushed in between.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so metal members, you know, roof members, just like
and I was stuck. I was just like hanging and
I could actually see myself and that was the coolest
thing ever above and looking at myself, I'm going, that
does not look good at all, you know.
Speaker 2: But I didn't realize that I was dead, which was
really crazy. You know.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, like and then I and
this is the conscious. It's like it's like what am
I doing over there? If I am over here? And
then I realized it's like, oh, I'm dead, And then it.
Speaker 2: Was sadness for maybe a split second.
Speaker 1: But then you have so much joy and so much
expansiveness at that moment that you don't even think about
your physical body anymore. You don't think about you know,
your loved ones and so on like that, because it's
just like whoa, It's just crazy how beautiful that layer is.
And then from there I send it into where I
went into a life review. There's you know, you see
the tunnel of light. You go through a tunnel of light.
It is brilliant, and some people go, well, it's the
optic nerve and all that. It really isn't. You're in
another consciousness one. I was out of my body, you
know too. You know, it's it's this thing that just
consumes you and you think you're in a tunnel, but
in reality you're really not. It's just a space of
just pure possibilities. That's what you know. Pure white is
about pure possibilities. There's different layers of possibilities. The first
layer sometimes people go where they you know, go their
loved ones meet them, right, you know, their dogs, loved ones,
whoever's crossed.
Speaker 2: Over, you know, they introduced them.
Speaker 1: I went into the fourth or fifth layer of that
where it was a life review, and that life review
it wasn't about you know, somebody keeping score where you
know you did this wrong, you did this right, and
then they tally up the score, you know, and then
you either go to heaven or you go down below
to the other place. It wasn't like that at all.
It was literally reviewing your life as a high level
being and looking at it. It's like, oh, okay, that's
why that happened.
Speaker 2: That's why that happened. That's why this happened.
Speaker 1: So you start to see it from say a college
grade level or a pH d level consciousness rather than
you know, a kindergarten level of awakening. There's you feel presences,
but I didn't see anybody. And it's not like you're
observing your life. You're in the life, re experiencing like
twenty two years for me, in maybe merror seconds. You
were reliving yourself in that moment, from my point of view,
reliving everything, but from a very high level.
Speaker 2: State of consciousness.
Speaker 1: Well, you stepped into the moment, and then when you're
done reviewing, you step back out. It's like you're in
the ride and you go through life and you go, oh,
that's why this happened.
Speaker 2: Oh that's why this.
Speaker 1: Happened, So you can't really change what happened because that's
written in the sands of time. The important thing is
that you can rewrite the meaning of what happened. And
that's really key because that's what I use today to transform.
You know, not only my life, but you know thousands
of others around where you can change or you can
edit what happens to you. You can change the meaning
of what's happened to you. What changes your present focus
or the possibilities of where you can go into the
present moment. It allowed me to awaken much quicker than
taking another twenty thirty, forty years or maybe lifetimes to transform.
So in that perspective, I understood why things happen the
way they do. And literally it is a teaching experience.
But the teaching experience for me was about, Oh, we're
just all running programs, and that's really the key. It's like, oh,
it's a program.
Speaker 2: It's not like it was my fault or it was
their fault or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's just like you run a program and the outcome
is right there for you.
Speaker 2: It's just that literally, that simple.
Speaker 1: When you step back out of the ride and you know, again,
still not in my body and I'm going, okay, now,
how did I just live twenty.
Speaker 2: Two years in maybe a minute or two.
Speaker 1: You know, that puzzled me even then, and that I
think that was the teaching experience for me. Is like
wait time and space can be edited, it can be
you know, distorted, it can be edited, it can be
manipulated for your benefit. There's a deep state of love
you have for yourself because you look at the mistakes
and you realize that you know, you aren't the mistakes,
you aren't the distortions, you aren't the abuse, or you
aren't the successes or anything. You are a grand level
being experiencing those things. Although you know you can experience
that you, who you are, is an infinite being and
you know yourself so solidly, and from that you get
this immense peace and joy and the brilliance of love
that I've never experienced physical in physical form, although you
know you're in that state all the time. And then
you know this consciousness you know, starts talking to you.
It's like and it's a collective consciousness, so it's not
just like one person, it's like many individuals talking through
one voice. And it's like, oh, yes, I know you
could stay here. It's like, because you have this choice,
you can either stay here or you can go back.
But as soon as they say it's a beautiful voice,
it's crazy beautiful, and you know sounds and inflections and
tones that you we can't comprehend it, but you heard
the voice, you know, at that level because well, in
that consciousness there is you don't have ears, you know,
but for us, for me to understand it, you know,
you hear it as a you know.
Speaker 2: As a voice.
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, you can stay here if you'd like,
you know, but you can always go back. But as
soon as they go back, that you're just like they
push you back into your body. Or as soon as
you think of going back, you're probably in your body
right away. We'll be right back after a word from
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where I felt the pain of, you know, my jaws
being crushed. I look around and then I pass out.
Speaker 2: So as soon as they say.
Speaker 1: Oh, go back, it's not like you have a choice,
so to speak. You already created that experience of going back.
There is no time in space. So as soon as
you think you're there, so I think that's where you
just like go back in.
Speaker 2: It's like, whoa, I'm back and you know we're in Belize.
Speaker 1: We were in a rafting trip and you know we connected.
The guide goes well, you know, you want to stay
interlocked with your feet otherwise you'll get pulled into other tributaries.
Something happened to me where I had to unlock my
feet with the other group. So the group went one way,
my sons and I went the other way, and I
got pulled into a sonota.
Speaker 2: It's basically a hole in you know, the bottom of
the river.
Speaker 1: So I pulled you know, I pushed my kids aside,
and then I got sucked in and that's where I
was trying to crawl out. But I was in this
lava tube back then probably was a lava tube.
Speaker 2: Now it's filled with water.
Speaker 1: But the water pressure was so great, you know, I
was trying to crawl out and then at some point
you give up. That's when I go, gosh, I'll never
see my kids grow up. And you know, it was like, damn,
I thought I had a great future and all that.
You know, it's like and then all of a sudden,
you see your body just I saw my body just
float away into you know, the bottles of the earth.
And it felt this expansiveness again and the joy and
the beauty. And I could still feel the water, the
presence of water.
Speaker 2: You went through.
Speaker 1: I went through the rock and then back through the river,
and then I sent it into higher realms. You transcend
the tunnel of light, and it's just it's like a
black hole or void because it's a space of nothingness.
That space of nothingness is actually the space of everything
possible because it had to be nothing for you to.
Speaker 2: Create or render anything without judgment. It's a blank slate
and it's beautiful up there.
Speaker 1: But you could I could feel, you know, I have
access to all possibilities here, and I had access to
all knowledge that ever was, is and shall be.
Speaker 2: And I'm going, whoa.
Speaker 1: It's like a huge I call it the universal database,
and you can have access to.
Speaker 2: It and anything that you need or want.
Speaker 1: It's even faster, you know, because there's no time, no
space at that level.
Speaker 2: And so and it's a beautiful.
Speaker 1: It turned into a beautiful blue space, kind of like
the deep ocean blue. It turned into that, and I'm going, wow,
this is so beautiful. The amount of love at that
level is a million times greater than what you could
handle here. I don't think you could handle that much
love here. Your body would just like explode, you know.
It's like an orgasming state.
Speaker 2: Anything you wanted there, anything.
Speaker 1: You could do, you you know, you literally transform into
It's like, oh I want to go to friends. It's like, oh,
you're in frience.
Speaker 2: It's like that.
Speaker 1: So it took a little bit, you know, to understand
the concepts. And I don't know how long. According to
my wife at the time, I probably was underwater like
eight ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Over there. It was like life, like.
Speaker 1: Lifetimes because it's forever, you know, there's no time, there's
no space. And then I blacked out came back. That's
where I got downloaded all the information. So basically it
was a connection point. When I came back, my heart,
my circulatory system, everything got remapped. It took me about
a year, but I'm healthier now than ever before. My
definition of God or pure source is the intelligence that
created this reality, you know, and the physics principles. If
you follow that physics, the science, you know, not religions
or anything like that, but if you follow the science
of trillions of years of evolution. That would be that
intelligence that that I would define God. So you start
to you become the observer of your physical So the
more you can do that rather than the flip. Most
people see their physical form and then some people go,
well there's a spirit out there.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1: But if you can see yourself from again a spiritual
aspect of who you are looking upon your physical form,
you start to.
Speaker 2: Create more love. The way you do that is create.
Speaker 1: More efficiencies of who you are by letting go of
those filters. The ultimate purpose of life is about understanding
your understanding space and time or the multi dimensional space
that is created here again the programming, so you can
render yourself here in physical form with all the possibilities
of being a limitless being. So again, at a spirit level,
you're limitless, you're all powerful.
Speaker 2: How do you render that each moment at a time
and still realize it?
Speaker 1: So basically walking here on physical earth, on physical form
through your spiritual eye and experiencing that sh