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caught up today though it's a Hoochinani we're talking about

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the Hoochinani whiskey of music festival with the do I

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say co sponsor sean owner? Co owner? Right? Yeah? The uh?

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Because I think last year time he did this in Geneseo.

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And then how did he you into this because putting

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on a music festival is a enormous and forgive my

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friends painting the fucking ass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the fucking ass. Well I didn't know that

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when I agreed, you know, it's just seemed like it

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would be all fun. So the way it went down, uh,

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he was definitely like, hey man, well, first of all,

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we'll go back. I've always like known uptill me like

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we've seen each other. What's something man, But we didn't

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get tight really until post COVID, I would say. And

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then uh, he told me in twenty twenty three he

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was doing this festival and he had the whole vision.

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He was excited. Yeah, which, of course he needed me

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for a tense I'm like, yeah, I did. We'll do it,

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and we'll you know, we'll do it for a steal,

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like you know, we get a massive friends and family discount.

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And it was a cool event.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know that was down in Geneseo

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at the time, right, yeah, last year in the fall too, Yeah,

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in the fall.

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Speaker 2: When we say last year, now, last year was twenty

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twenty three, last last year. But really cool design and

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really cool consped of course.

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Speaker 1: Everything he does has a very cool concept. I'm so

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blown away by that dude, honestly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's awesome.

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Speaker 1: He just whatever he touches, it's it's a great yeah,

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patient and he waits for it. It comes together nicely.

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It's just it's a it's a cool vibe that he

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has as a human.

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Speaker 2: That's what draws people into it, you know what I mean.

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So he did it there, and it's like, it's tough

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to start a new festival out in the farm country

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basically it is, right, but he had some success and

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of course you know the weather it was October. I

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think twenty first wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: You're on the Yeah, man there.

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Speaker 2: Yep, but it happened, and you know, they did fine

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in the first year, and I just felt like, I'm like,

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it was really cool, and I'm like, I think he's

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got something here, and I think it could be more.

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You know what I mean, he can You just got

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to get through that first year, right and just prove

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that you can do it, which they did, and I

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think he just kind of kind of like approached me

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the last spring, right spring of twenty four. We're in

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twenty twenty five now, right, we are cool.

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Speaker 1: It's a blur. I know, it's a blur.

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Speaker 2: Days. I'm like, every day is going back like it's crazy,

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but that's all I fais. So he approached me kind

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of just saying, you know, I want to get you involved,

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and it kind of into the summer became more than that,

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where Tim was kind of steering the ship of hoochin

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any and he needed help and he just wanted to

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take on a full new partner and kind of eliminate

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the whole everyone else that was involved and just be like,

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let's see and me do this together.

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Speaker 1: And I said, yes, yeah, well I got to say

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this before we get to into everything, because I have

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questions and says to how the pitch to the town

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of Irondoquoi, because they haven't done anything like this at

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Eastman that I know of. I know there's been the

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Irish Fast and that sort of thing that spanned a

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couple of days. This is a big deal. You have

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bands that people are out of their minds excited about now.

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Probably one that was commercially known more than Anyboddy is

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Joone Jet and the Black Hearts, right, And I always

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was a fan of Jone Jet some of her music,

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Like I think the one that is probably her biggest

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hit I was. I was like, eh, but Joan Jet

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is a fucking rock stares just in the fact that

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it was an all women's band. I don't know if

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you knew the Runaways of course, and Leada Ford was

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in that band. All these people she that disbands and

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she goes in shops. I mean, we're talking like nineteen

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eighty female and rock and roll. This woman went out

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and produced her own album like now you can do

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shit at home, right, We're doing a podcast from you

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could do it anywhere. You know what I'm saying that

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I always joked the barrier to entry's gone. She man

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was a hustler and went out and did this whole thing.

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And I always loved some of her more almost fifty

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style rock that she does. So that's a great one.

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But then it's like the old ninety sevens.

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Speaker 2: I love the old ninety seven it's the real deal better.

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I mean, like the people who know them, you know them,

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you know what I mean. Another, I mean, so Mo

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and dark Star together that combo I think for that scene,

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for the jam band scene, people like.

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Speaker 1: Whoa yeah, which Goose, by the way, is one I'm

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sorry one too, Okay, it's so good.

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Speaker 2: Eggie is also like an up and coming jam band,

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and Galactic from New Orleans, who like I mean, they're

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like a staple in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: So do you know the I mean, did you have

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a hand in getting these?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, So some of it was already set in

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motion kind of when I when I came on board,

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so I kind of just went with what time it

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was already trying to do. But what I realized quick,

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so booking bands it's a tough world. It's a tough industry,

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you know. I didn't realize how tough it was.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times you're looking at their schedule if

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they if they have an off day and they're going

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to let's say a buffalo, can they come on a

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Saturday here or a Friday here?

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Speaker 2: What I found out it's like, I mean, at least

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this year we didn't look out like that. I think

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the bigger your festival gets you you have the chance

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of people kind of running the festival circuit sequentially.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, but pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Festivals, you know your pay, you gotta fly the band in.

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So obviously it's a larger cause.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this like the record company is they're

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they're a great band. I'm not. I've never heard of

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Tommy Burnett, All Stars, Cavalcado of Scoundrels.

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Speaker 2: Never Yeah, who's Tommy Burnette? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that that's always a fun one, you know.

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Eggie was one that someone wrote me about how excited

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they are forgi. It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Even like the two bands, the Vandeliers and the jack

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Knives who are opening. Yeah, you know, it's like a

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lot of people don't know who they are, but when

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they see them. That band was a lot of fun. Yeah,

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every band, which we're gonna have a Spotify playlist released

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in days once I take the time to do it.

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But like every band's good, every band has good songs,

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and it's uh and every band's good live and that's

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a big thing too, like us. Someone on the radio

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the other day was like, oh, Joe Jack, she's got

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to be an old gramdma. Now, well, first of all,

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j definitely not a grandma.

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Speaker 1: Just sorry, but she's not your grandma.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but because she never had kids, let alone, so

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her kids never had kids. Just look up a YouTube video,

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just type Joan Jet twenty twenty four and just watch

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her live and tell me she's a grandma. You know

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what I mean. She's sixty six years Young's amazing.

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Speaker 1: She's she's great and matter of fact, the Sunday Night

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football theme is based on uh, I hate what was

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I hate being in love with you or something like that.

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I hate myself from loving you? Is the Sunday Night

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Football theme is that. Yeah, that's what they took and

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in one year she came out and sang it with

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Carrie Underwood. Yeah, but this is always one of my

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favorite Jets. Yeah, yeah, she's gonna come and rock yeah.

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Speaker 2: In ironic in a park in erotic Quay.

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Speaker 1: Why do people have what what good is going to

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come from saying you know, you remember the old adage

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if you have nothing nice to say. I wouldn't have

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a job if I didn't have anything nice to say,

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you know, if I said it was nice stuff. But

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what's the point of that?

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Speaker 2: I think too, there's an assumption that like legacy acts

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is like synonymous with washed up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and sure like don't jet open the door

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for a lot of people. Man, you know that's the

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Speaker 2: Respect she is not. I mean, she is fully on

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all cylinders, if not better in her like her band

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the Black Hearts. I mean it's like again, just come

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to the show and you'll see.

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Speaker 1: Well as a as a co sponsor. So I'm I'm

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assuming now right now it's it's in a great spot

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down by the lake in Eastman, Duran, Eastman Park. I

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got to think that not to get too far ahead

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of ourselves and we'll be all over the place in

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this conversation a little bit. But well, how do you

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see it like in five years, like the vibe and stuff,

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and you've got to go beyond this in your head.

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I gotta think, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean a little bit, but I'm like one I more

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I think that we just get through this year and

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see how Rochester responds. But I think Timy and I

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felt like there's this void in what we're creating. You know,

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it's like Rochester is a festival city, but there's no

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like actual rock rock being of course country, jam, punk anything,

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you know it's like, but actual rock festival. There's nothing

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like it. There's not this whiskey tasting experience.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: So I'll know on Friday, that's when tickets go on.

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Speaker 1: Sales, tickets going and you can get the early bird

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tickets through May, through the anime through then, and they're

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great prices. Yeah, I saw the prices. They were great,

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but that the four day double ten three cigar or

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three day excuse me, three day, which is well, there's

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going to feel like four after all the well.

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Speaker 2: No, I saw. It's funny. One of my things. I

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want to be the reason everyone in Rochester takes off

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of work on that Monday and the like. That's that's

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that's the goal. But it have be a killer weekend.

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like I've never seen anyone who had a first year

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and now second year festival get the amount of his

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sponsors that Tommy got. So we'll always throw out the

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names of sponsors because like they essentially are subsidizing ticket

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prices and allowing us to create this big, massive thing

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the first year without sponsors.

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Speaker 1: Who was supplying all the tents and stuff?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we ared a company out of Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: So all right, how does the pitch go to Irondequoit

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to say, hey, this is an idea we want and

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or how did you even find the spot? Maybe we

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should start there? Like So.

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Speaker 2: It's weird that like when we started like looking for spots,

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we we realized like with what we're trying to do,

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places in Rochester, but nothing's fitting like this vibe of

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what we want right Like and I like, obviously like

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we've had a lot of luck with the Holiday Village downtown.

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things about it that are limiting, particularly the number of

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people you can get.

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Speaker 1: In the right Highland Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I love Highland Bowl, Highland Park, but it's like, first

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of all, just doing work, that's very It's an amazing park.

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Lilac Festival is an amazing event, but like it is

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very challenging to build that as a site and actually

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try to get more than a few thousand people in there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's a lot of your knowledge that you'll

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bring in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just because I've been you know what I mean,

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and really sit her and think about it, though, like

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think about it, you know. I'm like, Okay, the dome

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Marina parking lot, no, like you know, I'm just like

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And then I was like, hmmm, Octoberfest has not been

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a thing in Aroundequoys since twenty nineteen. And actually the

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idea started with I'm like, let me go check it out.

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And then I saw there's mass of soccer fields in

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the back, which I knew. My first question and we'll

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get into this later, would be can these soccer fields

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be used for parking? Because they are like solid, like

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it's actually just like two inches of dirt and then stone.

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It's there, solid fields. So I'm like, okay, we got

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this one area with all this infrastructure, there's just simple

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things like running water, even if it's only a few

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host bect's having a running water at a festival. I

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believe the power there for Octoberfest is eight hundred amps

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of power. Okay, there's lodges, there's actual like brick and

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mortar bathrooms. They just put in like brand new bathrooms.

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So there's these things that a lot of other places

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aren't available, and that's kind of how it started. But

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my idea was, I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna

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go to the town of Roneicoid and say, we want

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to do this festival, but then why don't you piggyback

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on us and you can bring back Octoberfest. Was the idea.

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And then I found out who had to call, and

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I kind of presented it and they were interested right away,

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but they said, you know, for whatever reason, it's like

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Octoberfest kind of like it did its thing and ran

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its course. But they're like, but we're really excited about

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your event, and they're all in, you know what I mean,

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And they were all in to the point that they're

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giving us enough support that they're the title sponsor.

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Speaker 1: The town of Veronically Ironico. Okay, cool, yep, man, that's amazing. Yeah, well,

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it's an underutilized space. It's totally you're You're right. I

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don't even even know if Irish Fest happens anymore. Nothing

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happens there now why right, just since COVID, Just.

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Speaker 2: Since COVID, I think, you know, uh, COVID did a

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lot of good things for some people, some businesses, and

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it also killed a lot of things. I mean, you know,

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even in my industry. I you know a lot of

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businesses people were already like almost retired when COVID hit.

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There's like I'm done. Yeah, a lot of people just

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like close up shop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think that producing events, the cost, especially for

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events that the entry was a low fee, if not free,

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everything's got too expensive everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So this, I think this is just such

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a cool to me. I feel like you keep talking

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about a vibe. What is the vibe because I'm looking

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at it. It's more that jam band hanging out. It

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has a vibe to it. You're right, but you're looking

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for space that matches that. What is that vibe to

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you in your How would you describe it?

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Speaker 2: I guess the vibes to me, which I would stick with,

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like Tommy's original vision, which is tagline would be cultivate

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the uncommon and unfortunately the uncommon these days are you know,

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in the world of Amazon, Starbucks, Walmart, is actual just

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you know, handcrafted beer which, by the way, we have

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a free beer tasting at the event. Really, if you

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have a general mission ticket, it's free beer tasting. But

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local food, local craft makers. We're gonna have up to

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twenty craftmakers. It's all funky, local made trinkets, things that actually, Timmy,

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they do a craft show I think every quarter, and

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Iron Smoke and also just the whiskey makers like actual

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we actually some of the distillers are big, and that's

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really exciting, but there's also a lot of just smaller,

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small shops, especially out of New York State.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's really cool. Tommy's always been and I'm sure

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you step right into this too, supportive of the local community,

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right in terms of he'll ask you to buy the

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whiskey if you like an Iron Smoke whiskey from a

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liquor store, because it helps the local liquor store owner

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instead of and he goes, i'll actually charge you more

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if you buy it from the distillery, which I always

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thought was like, I'm like, man, that is pretty cool.

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I think, yeah, it is right, and I love the

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idea of bringing everybody together with all these different there's

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something about that whole community and I don't know if

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you've been I know you've been around a lot of

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these festivals and things like the beer tastings. There's something

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about that community where, you know, when I was in radio,

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it was is we did we wanted to attack the

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other guy. There were these street fights. I once had

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a when I worked at CMF, they had a bat light.

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We bought a bat light and it would beam the

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CMF logo. Right, And I'm twenty, I'm younger than my

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kids are, and I'm driving this mobile home rock and roll,

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and i go up to a Nerve event and I

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flash the light out a Nerve Yeah right right, So

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I'm just showing you, like, okay, So there was no togetherness.

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It was like we're against each other. Then I watched

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the beer industry and it's like a rising keg floats

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all kegs because these guys all help each other out,

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like you know, hey, you need help bottling, we can

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cover your bottling if some a machine went down. I'm like,

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that's a totally different vibe and it seems to be

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one that is expanding beyond those industries now, you know,

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And that's what I love. And to me, this is

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just a cool It's like a laid back, cool festival,

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which I think would be with the music and stuff

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you've got spanning generations, bringing families hanging out. I mean

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I really see that as is a really cool thing

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about it, right, you know, being ond then just there

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are certain festivals you're not going to bring your kids

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to and stuff, but this is one where you go, hey, man,

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you're gonna love this music.

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Speaker 2: I think so. And not only that, like the way

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we're designing it, it's like the actual drinking experiences are separate. Yeah,

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I mean, it's like it's twenty one and over. It's

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not there's not a massive whiskey tasting you know, in

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the middle of like a nursery or you know what

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I mean. It's it's set to the side. But the

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exciting thing too is like, you know, kind of what

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you said is what we have in our mind, right,

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it can be a family event, all these things, but

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like the exciting thing right now actually is like we

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don't know, you know what I mean, We know what

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we think it's going to be, yeah, but we don't

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know what life it's going to take on. So we're

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in that like exciting, incubating phase of seeing where it goes.

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Speaker 1: At the I don't know if this would be jinxing

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you if you would think that. But what are your

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expectations in what regards for the festival? Do you have

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any Like a lot of times, man, I always think

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when you envision it, it's almost like you can exceed that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think it's the old Wayne's world to

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adage you know what it is, right if Wayne's world too?

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Oh yeah, if you build it, yeah, they will come.

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I think that's it is. We're just you know, my

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initial you know, was just let's to get everyone's attention

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and to make this like an actual viable thing in

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Rochester and people to be like, oh my god, let's

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book the right bands, you know, let's start there. But

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then let's build a whiskey tasting experience like no other,

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you know, so let's do all these things. But it's like,

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what are our expectations? I mean, I don't I don't

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have actual physical numbers in mind or demographics. Sure, I

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know what numbers work, and we hope we exceed those,

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you know, But because yeah, booking bands is you know,

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it's not inexpensive.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not a band you I mean to unload

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this how how long did it take to line all

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this up? Because you on the eighteenth, you came out

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and all the bands are there, everything's done. It's all done.

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That's fast.

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Speaker 2: So we booked our final headliner, Charles Wesley Godwin, he's

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a great country American artist, for Friday night, five days

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before the press conference. Five days yeah. Yeah, yeah, so

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but it just takes time. There's, like you said, there's

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all this routing and all these factors with the bands,

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or you know, a band might almost be lined up

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and all of a sudden they're like, you know what,

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actually we're going to record an album this summer, you

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know what I mean. There's just so many like personal

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factors and different people within the band that you know,

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there might be someone has a family problem, and all

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of a sudden, it's just like back out. We were

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actually interested in the Stray Cats, and about a month

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then Brian Setzer he can't play guitar, which he's already

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he recently posted that he's he's working towards greatness again

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and get back on tour. But that was like for me,

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like the Stray Cats would have been killer that Oh

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my god.

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, yeah, I'm a big briand sets under the

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brin sets or orchestra and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it all so, But your question, I mean

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about four and a half five months from like starting

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to reach out to people to actually yeah, I gotta

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tell you.

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Speaker 1: Man, I think that that. I've never done that been

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around a lot of people who have that seems quick. Yeah,

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to lock these bands in seriously, Like I don't know

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what the pitch was. Who's who's talking to the managers

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and stuff? Because yeah, you have.

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Speaker 2: There's intermedia areas and you have people. Yeah, yeah, that's

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the whole world where you like that world doing well.

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Speaker 1: Tim he knows it, and he knows a lot of

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the guys and he goes to south By Southwest, and

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I love his story about I think. Is he in

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Park City right now? Yes? Yeah, because that's I spent

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a lot of time in Park City. Yeah, my uncle

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was a pilot for Delta. I lived out there for

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a summer. Actually I skied there and stuff, but I

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lived there for a summer. It was the greatest summer.

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Speaker 2: Season. There's like eight months it go.

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Speaker 1: You can ski till June. You'll see people skiing in June.

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You'll see a lot of bikinis and stuff, because it'll

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be like, uh, you know, as you go up higher

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on the mountain it gets colder. But it's yeah, like

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fifty fifty sixty at the base and people were in bikinis.

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They're still making so there's you know, or there's not

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as many runs open and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, but he

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went out there and did the sun Dance. He was

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the band, and then some of the actors would come

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in and play with the band. So it's like Tommy's

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got all these great connections too.

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Speaker 2: Tommy's partied with le Me from Motor Hud. Yeah, like

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he's I feel like, yeah, you can say that. I'll

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randomly think of like a bandon back have you met

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your so and so? And it's like he's been everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Stones are like, I'm a huge Stones fan.

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00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:50,720
I love the Stones. And he talked about being backstage

469
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,440
and how they kicked a bunch of people out because

470
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,680
Mick was coming through to go to his trailer to

471
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,200
work out, and he's like, they go, nah, man, you

472
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,000
can stay, You're cool.

473
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: You look cool. Yeah, yeah, he's got the look.

474
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just it is amazing. So music for you

475
00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:11,440
jam band guy, I mean you mentioned Brian Sets. Yeah, okay,

476
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,359
so what's the.

477
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: No I would say that, like, okay, so my musical

478
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:20,079
uh past started with I got bon Job Slippery when wet, Yeah,

479
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:22,559
when I was seven, Okay, yeah, I think I got

480
00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:24,519
Michael Jackson Thriller when I was like five.

481
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,079
Speaker 1: That was a great album though, No matter what anybody says,

482
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:28,960
when I was a kid, he didn't want to be

483
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:31,160
caught with that album. No one want. No one listened

484
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,119
to it, but it was number one.

485
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,279
Speaker 2: Everyone listen. Yeah, yeah, definitely, Like when I really gott music,

486
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:38,599
it was it was the Guns and Roses, Use Your

487
00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:42,599
Illusion Metallica Black album time period, but then quickly two

488
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,519
great album, but then quickly went to grunge, but then

489
00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:46,039
it was punk rock would be.

490
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: Like really like like I'm trying to think of it

491
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:49,880
would be.

492
00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:52,519
Speaker 2: Like older punk rock too Ramons, but like definitely like nineties,

493
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:58,319
like like Epitaph Records or yeah, yeah all that.

494
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: So you're from here? Do you do house of guitars

495
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,880
like the album releases and things at midnight?

496
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 2: I didn't. I was never like, I mean, I love music,

497
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,359
but yeah, but I had friends who did.

498
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: I I didn't even know that ship went on man,

499
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,200
I grew up in such a rural town. I came

500
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,079
here to college and my roommate was from here. I

501
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,960
loved Pearl Jam. He would go and buy all the

502
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,240
imports and stuff and yeah, it's a different uh world.

503
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was you know, punk rock has always

504
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,200
been like my my main music. But I I dried

505
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,279
my wife crazy because she was never into that genre.

506
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,839
And like the first the first summer we dated, actually

507
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,160
we did a road trip went to all over New England,

508
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,759
including Boston, where I'm like, oh, we'll go to this

509
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,559
the Warp Tour. I've never heard of the Warp Tour.

510
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,079
I'm like, I've been going to the Warptour for eight

511
00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:48,480
summers in a row, so I'm going to so and

512
00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:51,160
it was. It was horrible. It was like an airstrip,

513
00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:54,880
like just just like Stone Milling parking lot. And she

514
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,839
is just like, I like Fleetwood Mac, Where the hell

515
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,279
am I right at? And it was like ninety ninety is.

516
00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:02,200
It's just funny though, because we were very early in

517
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,559
our relationships, so like modern day Heather would be like,

518
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,519
we're not fucking going there, We're at it, like but

519
00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,720
like she put up with next week, just started dating

520
00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:13,440
for that phase. Yeah, and uh yeah, so that was

521
00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:16,240
but uh yeah, that's always been my my music. But

522
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:18,599
I but I maintained though that I have a more

523
00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:21,160
eclectic taste. I think than many people. I could listen

524
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,640
to a Ramones album than Andrea Bocelli, you know what

525
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,839
I mean, Like I hear you, I love classic rock.

526
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:30,759
I like a lot of country, uh like older country.

527
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:33,240
I like a lot of metal.

528
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,519
Speaker 1: Yeah do you really?

529
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:34,799
Speaker 2: Yeah?

530
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was always more like Black Crows and the

531
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,000
Stones and that sort of thing, the Dead. Where I

532
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:44,799
grew up near Whatsock, everybody loved the Dead. It was

533
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,200
to the point with Dead and Bob Dylan. I was like,

534
00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:48,240
I'm enough enough.

535
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm you know, I'm and I have no

536
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,759
problem admitting to hopefully our growing fan base at who

537
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,279
Nanny Like, I'm not a massive jam bang guy. I

538
00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:58,440
was always friends with a lot of jamp in people

539
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,000
growing up, but there was always like a cohesiveness with

540
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:04,200
jam band people and punk rock people because it's a

541
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,720
similar like identity and love for music. It's much stronger

542
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,599
than just you know, I like, right, I'm an a

543
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,039
CDC vent or. I'm a you know, I think jam

544
00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:17,920
band or punk rock is like, we are in it.

545
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: Well, we're in it. We're in It's a music thing.

546
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,319
It's a music right, It's about the music and it's

547
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:26,680
about the vibe. So tickets go on sale Friday at

548
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,000
noon at noon. And where do you go to get them?

549
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:30,400
Right at the Hooch and any website?

550
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: Or do you Yeah, the website links to your our

551
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,319
ticketing partner.

552
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: Okay and so, and that's Hooch and any Whiskey MusicFest

553
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,799
doc dot com. That's just introduction. Thank you, thank you.

554
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,599
I asked these questions. I should know the answer, but

555
00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:52,839
I think this is is great. Any behind the scenes

556
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,880
things so far that you you know, I don't know

557
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,279
if there's stressful moments or exciting moments like you you know,

558
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,680
bands that you thought holy shit, like wow.

559
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: I mean the stressful moment, you know was first of all,

560
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,480
we when we just got going on this, and I

561
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,559
thought that, you know, reach out to a booking agent

562
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:18,319
of a band. If you're just Joe Shmo. I knew

563
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:21,039
it would be an uphill battle. But I'm like, you

564
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:23,319
know what my U r L. I mean, I own

565
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,319
McCarthy Events dot com, right, so I'm at least I'm

566
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,759
emailing someone from McCarthy Events. I have an event company,

567
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:32,039
and maybe that'll validate me as someone who wants to

568
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:35,400
hire their band. And it was a shocking moment where

569
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,319
I was like, oh my god, I am nobody and

570
00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:40,960
I'm like and it was embarrassing the responses I was

571
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,200
getting from booking agents. So that was like, that was

572
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,240
the first moment where I'm like, Okay, I need help.

573
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,640
Which our help actually came from point of the bluff.

574
00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:52,839
Oh yeah, the venue. John Rodenhouse, who's a friend on

575
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,720
Cuca Lake.

576
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: They have done an unbelievable job. Darryl Hall coming, yeah, yeah, yeah, there.

577
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: Went up this summer is like I think the best

578
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:05,200
yeat Yeah, and they're they're in house booking agent Josh

579
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,720
Mascot's his name. John Rodenhouse is like, sure, i'll help you.

580
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,960
John Rodenhouse is also a partner at Audio Images. He's

581
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,480
the staging company okay that does jazz Fest and everything.

582
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:17,519
So obviously we're hiring Audio Audio Images for the stage

583
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:19,279
and he said, well they do a great job. Yeah,

584
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:21,960
they're amazing. So he said, why don't you connect with

585
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,640
Josh and he'll help your book bands? And I said

586
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,920
it at the press conference. If I didn't have Josh, like,

587
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,720
I couldn't fathom where I'd be right now. Yeah, it

588
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,400
would be nowhere.

589
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,279
Speaker 1: Good. Well, I think it's great, But it's using those connections.

590
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:39,160
I mean a lot of times, you know, you have

591
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,160
to rely on your network man of people that you

592
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,039
know what, he can do this stuff alone. You're only

593
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:47,160
going to get so far alone, right, and so Josh

594
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:49,359
and you're right, they do a great job. I was

595
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,920
blown away to see that. It was kind of exciting

596
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,799
for me to see that Daryl Hall is coming because

597
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:56,680
he I grew up near Daryl Hall. He used to

598
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,279
come into the Delhi I worked at all the time,

599
00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:00,440
and then people started realizing who we was. He was

600
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:02,920
very tall. You couldn't get away from him. And I

601
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,839
remember years ago, every concert, if you're ever looking to

602
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,039
go to like a mainstream show and not a festival

603
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:14,799
type thing, they always hold back seats for friends and family,

604
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,119
and a lot of times there's not friends and family

605
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,319
around here, so that you can buy them day of

606
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,720
and you'll get really good seats at.

607
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:21,359
Speaker 2: The discount of price.

608
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:25,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I did. I contacted somebody I knew who

609
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:27,559
knew the drummer in the band or something, and I

610
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:29,799
went to a Hall and Note show and I loved

611
00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:32,680
it because at some point something went wrong and Darryl

612
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:35,400
is a hothead and he kind of trying to keep

613
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,240
it together on stage, but he's looking around, he's like

614
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:39,720
yelling and gesticulating at people, and I go, that is

615
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:43,079
that's a musician. Like I always loved Daryl's house and

616
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:44,440
that that sort of thing. I don't know if you've

617
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,319
ever seen that. It's him down in Pauling, New York

618
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:51,559
and just this jamp. He has different artists come in,

619
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,240
like Sticks came in May. I think Joan Jet may

620
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,000
have done one. And they play some Hall of Oe

621
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:00,359
songs for some of their own songs. Podcast it was

622
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,960
it was on Access. Okay, yeah, cool Access. But I

623
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:06,880
got to think for this man, you're going to have

624
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,319
social media all that stuff.

625
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,079
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. We have someone that's managing. Yeah, an

626
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:15,640
amazing person who doesn't like me to over. I won't

627
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,440
give her credit publicly because she's like, I just like

628
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,920
to work beyond the scenes. But anything that's been going

629
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,240
on on our social media, which will plug obviously on

630
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:26,880
Instagram is at hooch and any on Facebook as hoo

631
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,000
Chin any whiskey and music festival. But she's done, Like

632
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:33,240
she's done an amazing job. And that's like, you know,

633
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,839
we went from Tommy got a good start on followers,

634
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,279
but I think our followers on both Instagram and Facebook

635
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:43,079
have gone up like seven percent.

636
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think word of this festival. I'm not sure

637
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,240
what your via. You know, what you're seeing on this

638
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,920
is people beyond the area. I hope. Well, I've heard

639
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,119
from people like in the Shyracuse are going, man, Maggie

640
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:57,799
is a great man.

641
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,839
Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, that's good to hear because it is

642
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:03,519
like when you're the guy doing it, like yeah, you're

643
00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:06,079
kind of like, yeah, you're watching, like okay, I'm getting

644
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,640
you know. The Facebook followers went up by nine hundred

645
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,000
this week, which is amazing.

646
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:11,279
Speaker 1: But you're kind of like, what is that?

647
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: How much of the hype? Like is there actual hype

648
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,440
around that people are talking about it or is it

649
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:19,039
just that I think that it's taking off.

650
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,759
Speaker 1: I think it's going to take off. I think so. Yeah.

651
00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:25,200
I think the whole thing, the whole vibe, the whiskey,

652
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:29,960
the ten, the you know. I would recommend anybody go

653
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,640
to Huchinani dot com look at all the prices and

654
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,519
things and get it before me thirty first, just because

655
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:36,480
it's a great price.

656
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,119
Speaker 2: Really reasonable, yeah, which I can go over to. The

657
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:41,720
ticket pricing is fifty dollars per general admission, right, so

658
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,480
that's I mean if you look a lot of club

659
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,519
shows these days for a couple hours cost thirty or

660
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:47,920
forty dollars. Yeah, so it's fifty dollars for a full day.

661
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,000
The Whiskey experience if you want that is seventy five

662
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,559
dollars all in. So basically it's your GA's fifty and

663
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:58,359
then twenty five extra to do the full Whiskey World

664
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,480
of Whiskey experience, and one hundred and fifty for VIP.

665
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,200
So let me backtrack. The entire festival is all like

666
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,960
amenity is driven. That's my goal, and it kind of

667
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,200
ties back to like year one of the Holiday Village,

668
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,960
which I'm an owner of the Holiday Village as well.

669
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,880
Oh I didn't know that, yeah, Jenna, I mean Kelly partners.

670
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, i'new Kelly. I've met her a few times.

671
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,720
I didn't know that. That's a really well done but.

672
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: That's like we're a perfect partnership because I mean they

673
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:27,799
did everything behind the scenes. But I own this infrastructure,

674
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,160
so I'm able to take these risks with the rentals,

675
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,119
where like a lot of time, the actual event rentals

676
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,400
of the tents is your biggest expense other than if

677
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,759
you're doing obviously the bands are your biggest expense, but

678
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:41,079
for the holiday village, the tents are. But we can

679
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,519
kind of take that risk and be like, let's just

680
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:45,319
go for it and let's go big the first year.

681
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,079
So that's when people show up and they say, wait,

682
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,400
this wasn't even a thing last year, how did they

683
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,559
do this? And that's like with Huchenani, that's the goal

684
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,920
of people showing up at what is just a big

685
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
open field with some lodges and all of a sudden

686
00:33:56,039 --> 00:34:00,960
there's like PGA style structures everywhere, just with on hospitality

687
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,519
for everybody.

688
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the goal with McCarthy's events for you?

689
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,960
I mean just it's a business. Because I know that you.

690
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,639
I don't even know really your background. I know my

691
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,920
son worked for you for a while. I loved the job,

692
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:20,920
raved about you all the time, talked about all your

693
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,639
different cars or whatever, because I'm kind of a car guy.

694
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,679
Speaker 2: Well, no I have one car. I bought a Maserati. Yeah,

695
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,400
and it's not even and actually I'm trying to sell

696
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,840
it right now. So if anyone listening wants to buy

697
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,840
a Maserati, Yeah, what year? It's like twenty two. Oh

698
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,239
really it's a crazy one. Okay, but I'm familiar with that,

699
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,920
but I'm ready to move on. Yeah, what are you

700
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,239
going to get next? I have a oh the Rivion

701
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,199
I really like too. I've never driven one. I've seen

702
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,079
him for a lot down by my mom. She lives

703
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:54,000
in Rhinebeck, New York. So there's a ton of so fast.

704
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,199
Speaker 1: So yeah, and it's electric, right, Bogi, Yeah that's the

705
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,639
way it is.

706
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. So but as far as my goals, I don't know.

707
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:00,159
Speaker 1: Man.

708
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: I uh so, I started a company in two thousand

709
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,880
and seven. But it's like I guess I say, I'm

710
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,880
I'm kind of a sucker for the next adventure, right, So,

711
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,840
like once we've like, do you say you're a risk taker? Yeah?

712
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,239
For sure?

713
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,559
Speaker 1: Yeah you gotta be.

714
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I gotta be on the edge. I gotta be

715
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:20,000
like if this doesn't work, I might go bankrupt. Like

716
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:21,960
that's a I don't know what. But then like when

717
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,239
it gets really risky, I'm like, oh, this sucks, and

718
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,440
then I get through it and then I'm like, oh

719
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,960
that was cool. This worked, It's worked, okay, good. Yeah,

720
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:32,519
like even McCarthy Tenson events. I mean, we never like

721
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,000
dreamed of it. I have eighty five year on employees now.

722
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,599
I mean when I first started, eighty five what year

723
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:39,440
round employees?

724
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought, I thought I heard eighty five hundred.

725
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,519
I've wanted to make.

726
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: Five hundred year O yeah No, no, eighty five year

727
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,199
round yeah, which I never, like, I never I thought

728
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:51,159
ten fifteen maybe.

729
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,119
Speaker 1: Or a year round out of a ten company where

730
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:54,400
we have long winters.

731
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:56,039
Speaker 2: And think about so the summer we blew into like

732
00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:59,880
one fifty seventy five yea, So that kind of just

733
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:02,719
I mean, that kept doing its thing. But I've kind

734
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,079
of just done these other little side things along the way.

735
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,079
Speaker 1: One other little side things like I mean, well granted,

736
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,159
like the hoochin Anny, but and and the holidays.

737
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: A lot of village we started right before COVID, me

738
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:21,199
and two of the guys who worked with me. I

739
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,320
wanted to give everyone opportunity. So I'm like, I'm gonna

740
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,639
start new business. Who wants to buy in? And two

741
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:30,480
people raise their hands. It was a restroom trailer company. Yeah,

742
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:33,400
like really fancy, Like, yeah, are those the ones I

743
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:35,719
see it like Bill's training camp and stuff.

744
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,679
Speaker 1: They're air conditioned.

745
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, which we'll have those for the VIPs at

746
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,519
Hoochin any of course. Okay, but yeah, So we started

747
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:46,079
that and we got through one season COVID hits and

748
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:49,119
we're like ough. And then we started building a bunch

749
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:52,440
of COVID test sites that needed not only tents but

750
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,760
the restroom trailers. So then the rustroom Trailer Company like

751
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,599
just took off. And long story short, we did that

752
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:01,519
and then we sold it last year. You did ye

753
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,119
at another local company, so that was cool. Uh and

754
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,800
uh I actually there is a random one. I I'm

755
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,000
a a franchise ye, I guess. I'm a supplier of

756
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:17,039
a product called Evolution Dome. They're inflatable event products based

757
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:19,199
out of the UK, and I teamed up with them

758
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:22,159
in twenty eighteen. So that's a separate company, Evolution Dome US,

759
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:24,639
where we do these. It's indoor and also outdoor, like

760
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,280
mainly for like trade shows or like yeah, cool activations

761
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,920
like like like Porsche and parishes like these inflatables that

762
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:34,000
our UK branch does that So that's another thing on

763
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:36,400
the side that one of my employees bought in. So

764
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,079
we do that together. I'm actually going to Orlando to

765
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:40,800
do a big job this weekend.

766
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,519
Speaker 1: And you go and set these up.

767
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going set them up.

768
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:43,679
Speaker 1: Yea.

769
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we ship them down and it's a lot

770
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,000
of it's like just like funky indoor like inflatable walls,

771
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:48,880
inflatable Did.

772
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: This all begin for you, like the tents and things?

773
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,360
Were you working for somebody? Yeah, and throw it out

774
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,280
like let's say high school or something right.

775
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: After high school?

776
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're not Okay, Yeah, go see young guy

777
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,800
pretty four. It's young, you know, is it? Well I'm

778
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,480
ten years older than you, so uh, that's we're looking

779
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:10,960
at it that way. But I go that I love

780
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,880
I love the attitude. Yeah, of just hey, let's see,

781
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,800
let's see what happens. Yeah, I think you know, it's

782
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,840
just mostly positive for you. Are you mostly like it?

783
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,079
Would you be a more of an optimistic than pessimistic person?

784
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,159
That's how that shit works? Yeah?

785
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but like you know, but I just right.

786
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:32,320
I mean it was my wife who suggested I should

787
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,920
start my own company. Yeah, after doing it for eight

788
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:36,880
years for other people. I went to college. I mean,

789
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,639
so I also went to college. I went to grad

790
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:42,800
school to be a social studies teacher. No ship, yeah yeah,

791
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,400
so and that never happened, which is it's okay, yeah,

792
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,480
because I pursued a guy, yeah right instead.

793
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,079
Speaker 1: Right, but the but there is an element of teaching

794
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:58,199
to this too. Yeah right. You know you've got that patient,

795
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,719
cool vibe aboue that I think is some Yeah.

796
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes more now, way way more now. But like I mean,

797
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,360
when I first started the company, I was like, I

798
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,000
mean I was always fun and I think friendly enough,

799
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,199
but I was more high strong and like just like

800
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,800
well yeah, really just like getting it going, you know

801
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,159
what I mean.

802
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: So, I it's a grind. When you're starting something from nothing,

803
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,199
it's a grind. It's you're pulling a piano of the

804
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:21,840
side of a building.

805
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,639
Speaker 2: Now it's a lot easier. I mean, now we have

806
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,960
so many good people, we have so much machinery and

807
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,679
all these things we do. Like when the young guys complain,

808
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,960
I'm like, you got no idea how hard it was, kid, right.

809
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: But are you the type of person that can let go?

810
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,960
And when I say let go, it is like let

811
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:41,840
somebody else do things, or do you need to be

812
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,920
kind of hands on because I was always hands on

813
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,320
and I'm seeing if you want to grow, you got

814
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,880
to let other people do other things.

815
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 2: So the answer to that currently is very much yes.

816
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:55,159
It wasn't like that, like I have my hands and everything,

817
00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:59,280
you know, from like two thousand and seven to really

818
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:04,119
seventeen eighteen nineteen, like where like I knew what was

819
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:09,320
happening every day, what jobs deliveries here there, everything. But

820
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,599
now it's like, I mean, my core guys are also

821
00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:15,440
people I've been friends with, like since way before you know,

822
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,719
we started McCarthy tents and events. I'm definitely in the

823
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,519
last four years like, yeah, let let people do their

824
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:27,519
things and trust them. I like, I remember in twenty ten,

825
00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:31,159
I went to Hawaii where I was supposed to get engaged.

826
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:32,840
I got engaged the day I got home. That's another

827
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,960
story for another day, but but I was so stressed

828
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,800
out when I went to Hawaii and it was like October,

829
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,239
so our season was already winding down, and I was

830
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,320
like calling on stop and now like if I go

831
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,920
to like Europe, now I see you, yeah, and I'm

832
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,199
out and I don't like and I won't hear from anyone,

833
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,079
and let's something's going.

834
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: On, right, it was better not to know. Yeah, no

835
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:56,920
news is good news.

836
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: Correct, Right. But I also feel like, I mean the

837
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,400
path I would for a lot of years where I

838
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,039
was so like into it wouldn't have been sustainable, like

839
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:07,119
it was like I still had fun, like and I

840
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:09,920
honestly enjoyed working so much and I love doing tents

841
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,199
that Like when I first started, other than in the winter,

842
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:16,679
I truly worked seven days a week, like even up

843
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,440
like my kids were born in twenty thirteen and fifteen,

844
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,840
like I still in the summers, I work seven days

845
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,119
a week. Wow, always yeah, always, never stops.

846
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:27,679
Speaker 1: And you enjoy doing that?

847
00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:30,079
Speaker 2: I did enjoy doing.

848
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:34,039
Speaker 1: Now, say I'm having a graduation or something and I

849
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:37,440
wanted ten Should I have booked already? No?

850
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: Because okay we have yeah, we're we have a lot

851
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,960
of inventory now yeah, yeah, we got that whole.

852
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: You have. How many warehouses do you have? We have two?

853
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of weird, so we have two properties

854
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:52,440
that there's two warehouses at each. We had the Henrietta

855
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,239
Warehouse we bought in twenty fifteen. That was our forever home.

856
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:58,400
Because again I never dreamed that things would keep going

857
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,800
the way they were. So by twenty nineteen, I'm like,

858
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,280
oh my god, our Forever home is bursting at the seams.

859
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,199
So we did an addition there. And then two years

860
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,039
after that the owner of Nolan's rental and Webster approached

861
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:12,159
me to purchase Nolan's rental. Yeah, whish we did. And

862
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,960
then so he has two warehouse, two buildings right behind

863
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:18,800
Baytown Plaza. Yeah, really nice location.

864
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: That is a nice location. Yeah, straight off of Vampire Yeah. Yeah.

865
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:27,679
What so just in terms of like just turn over

866
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,199
an equipment and you've got i mean you're in there,

867
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,800
tents get damaged sometimes, weather, people taking them down improperly,

868
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:36,519
all this.

869
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:39,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything. Yeah, I mean it's like it's a constant

870
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,559
I mean, there's constant upkeep of equipment.

871
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

872
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,119
Speaker 2: Something I've always been dedicated to is you just got

873
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,119
to keep selling off old equipment and buy new.

874
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, all right, Yeah that's a good that's a

875
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:50,599
good way to do.

876
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,199
Speaker 2: It's never ending. But also, like even our I think

877
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,280
if a lot of people who are I'm interested in

878
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,920
different industries to see how they function, if people saw

879
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:02,000
like our our tent water area, it's a five thousand

880
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,199
square front room with massive tent washers, like huge barrels,

881
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,079
like fifteen by fifteen foot wide barrels that spin back

882
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:12,719
and forth, and washed tents. You know, it's like all

883
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:15,800
sealed and everything. Few in our gallons of water, four

884
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,519
different cycles to wash two rints. And we actually have

885
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,400
a massive conveyor system that hangs the tents that it's

886
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,480
literally you just attached pieces of vinyl and it just

887
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:28,519
hangs from the ceiling for days and then comes out

888
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,800
and it's all a continuous conveyor. It's kind of like

889
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,039
a dry cleaner where it goes up on one end

890
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,519
and it eventually makes its way back around. We have Wow,

891
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:37,639
it's seven hundred feet.

892
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: I don't think I never knew how any of that

893
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:39,960
stuff went.

894
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:42,639
Speaker 2: It's crazy. But the thing about the tent industry too,

895
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,280
is a lot of the developments of technologies are actually

896
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,880
developed by rental houses. Like this was a company in Miami,

897
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,119
a huge rental company called Diamondete that the owners were

898
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:56,880
kind of like had this conundrum of like as they

899
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,960
have big, so they developed conveyors where zig zag back

900
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,079
and forth from their ceiling and.

901
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:05,519
Speaker 1: They made necessities. The mother of invention, man and that's it.

902
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:07,119
Speaker 2: And then people were like, whoa, that's cool, and they

903
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:09,679
started selling them nationally, so they go around the country

904
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:13,400
installing them at tent warehouses. Wow, yeah, look at that.

905
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: But I had no idea about you, Like you know,

906
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:19,239
I knew about you through my son, and then I

907
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,199
had gone to your party and I saw I been.

908
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:26,599
I've never been to an employee party where the employees

909
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,400
like never wanted to leave. Everybody won stuff and gave

910
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,719
stuff away. It was amazing. And uh, but all these

911
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,760
ideas and things in different businesses and you know, let's

912
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,719
see how it works and all that. That's the that's

913
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,719
the idea. That's the way I think to live. And

914
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,079
this houchin any thing is an extension of exactly that.

915
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: It's uh, you know, I think people don't people see

916
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,480
you kind of like everything that's happened, and it's like,

917
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:56,320
you know, oh, he's you know, must be confident everything

918
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,880
he does, and it's actually not true. Like I'm I'm alway,

919
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:05,440
like I didn't grow up like with crazy success. I mean,

920
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,800
my parents are like we had a great I had

921
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,480
a great life in Fairport, amazing life. But like all

922
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:12,760
the crazy stuff I do that wasn't part of our life.

923
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:17,079
So like, I'm always waiting, Like I'm like, what am

924
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:18,840
I gonna like just fallow my face? You know what

925
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,039
I mean. I'm always waiting and I'm always like, you know,

926
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:23,559
bad things are right around around the corner, and failure

927
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:26,639
could happen. So even with Hoochinnanny, I'm like, I think

928
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:27,960
it's going to be a home run. I think it's

929
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,199
gonna be great. And then sometimes you know, in the

930
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:32,360
back of your mind, you're like, what if it just

931
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,039
doesn't resonate?

932
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, boy, there's been a lot of people

933
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:38,400
who have sat in that chair. One you may know

934
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:43,000
Charlie Fitzsimmons. Yeah, And I knew Charlie from the radio days,

935
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:45,920
and he says that all the time about the restaurant business,

936
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,679
Like there are days I wake up and I go,

937
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,320
what the fun a might to get myself into? And

938
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,960
he's opening up in Boston and doing all this, and

939
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:55,719
it's you know, these guys that you have huge success

940
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,519
but you're just waiting and the rest of us look

941
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:01,679
at it, go damn, that is as impressive as hell,

942
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,239
I think.

943
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, but it's always but every time you do it,

944
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,000
you put a lot on the line. Yeah, you know,

945
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:11,119
it's like I got I happen to also be finishing

946
00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:13,880
building a house on the canal right now, right down

947
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,079
the way. So it's like you got all these eggs.

948
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,039
Speaker 1: Wait that's your house. Yeah, wait which one? It's not

949
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:20,519
to dwell dwelling.

950
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 2: No, No, it's right across you know where the Ruing

951
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,440
Club is, right by h Fearview Lanes. Yeah, it's across

952
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,840
the canal from there. Oh okay, yeah all right. So

953
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,239
it's like, you know, I got that. You know, I

954
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,559
think my wife's like, oh, you could have picked the

955
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:35,599
worst time because now it's like we're we're building this

956
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:37,519
whole like festival and taking a risk there, but we're

957
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:38,639
also finishing building the house.

958
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:41,519
Speaker 1: So it's like, you don't, like you get bored easily.

959
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:42,199
I do.

960
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. It's like, well, I am just like

961
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:50,079
any given day, I always this is a fault to mine.

962
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,519
I'm always like I always feel like I could do more,

963
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,840
like I do. I do a lot of stuff, but

964
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,360
I'm like I'm always like, yeah, I always feel like

965
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,639
I could do more, you know what I mean. So

966
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:02,159
that's kind of like what just keeps me going because.

967
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: Well, give me real quick, quick, without trying to sound

968
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,559
too nerdy or anything, but what is a typical day

969
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:10,199
for you? What time does it start? Where does it go?

970
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, during the week, I I'll abuse myself all

971
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:17,039
day if I don't wake up at five point thirty

972
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:19,480
to go to the gym in Parentess Square yea, which

973
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:21,519
I work out with some guys there in a class,

974
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,639
great gym. So that's like just from six to six

975
00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:30,400
fifty five. And then recently, I'm thankful for this, I've

976
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:34,119
because we're in transition. I go home, take a quick shower,

977
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,519
and drive my daughter to Joe and a parent to

978
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:39,800
the middle school because because even though we're not in

979
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,000
that district yet, she will be next year. So which

980
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:44,519
that's a new thing for me too, is I used

981
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:46,199
to just when I left the house in the morning

982
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,760
was just go go go work, work, work, And I'm like,

983
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,920
all right, I gotta like, yeah, step back here. And

984
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,400
then in the summer I have a habit of going

985
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,519
to our Henrietta location more and going on the road.

986
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you like to go on to I do?

987
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:02,079
Speaker 2: I still go on the road.

988
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Last year the workers nervous No, okay, Well.

989
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: Because ever I just a lot of people are like, oh,

990
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,800
you shouldn't be working in your business, you should be

991
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,159
working on it, and I'm just like, you know what,

992
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,280
I also work on it. I feel pretty good about

993
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,639
where it's at, but like I need to see I

994
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,239
want to be in the mix and I want to

995
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,440
like be with my customers, and that's part of it.

996
00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah. Uh.

997
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:28,559
Speaker 2: In the winter, I have a habit of going to

998
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:33,840
our Webster warehouse more often, where this winter I was honestly,

999
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:37,760
this houcin Any deal is like thing is this is it? Yeah?

1000
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:38,039
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1001
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:40,599
Speaker 2: But I think it was also a product of once

1002
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,639
we bought No One's rental in twenty twenty two, So

1003
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:45,639
there was so much work to do to figure out

1004
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:49,159
you're just getting the companies together and all that. But

1005
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,239
then like kind of once we got through that, and

1006
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,760
it took two years to really let the dust settle,

1007
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:56,400
and I was just kind of like, what next.

1008
00:48:56,599 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, what next?

1009
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,599
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I mean, so.

1010
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:03,559
Speaker 1: That's that's a uh, you know, the one next thing.

1011
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:06,719
But that's that's a lot. So the the huchin Any's

1012
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,519
gotta have taken most of your attention throughout Yeah, for sure,

1013
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:12,280
in the holidays.

1014
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I mean once I'm like again, like

1015
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,519
if I go somewhere like yeah, I'm kind of like,

1016
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:22,559
I don't think about much now, Okay, if I got

1017
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:24,320
to get on a call, I will if we're going

1018
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,519
on vacation or whatever. But I think that once this

1019
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,519
is built and and and we kind of prove ourselves

1020
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:35,000
this first year, I think it's still gonna be a

1021
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,800
lot of effort every year and kind of keep growing

1022
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,559
it and see where it goes. But a lot of

1023
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:41,960
the legwork is getting done this year where you kind

1024
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,760
of figure figure it all out.

1025
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: How did you figure out like the layout when you're

1026
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,679
talking about because there is the double tent right, the

1027
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,880
vi P ten story ten you want to be in

1028
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,639
the VIP folks, that's you really do? I think that'll

1029
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:57,400
do well summertime. It's probably air conditioning.

1030
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: Bird's eye view of sit down, own servers everything. But

1031
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,119
but the goal also is really yeah wow, but I'm

1032
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:07,360
just making all this up as I go A lot.

1033
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:10,119
Now we got all I mean, we're working with caters.

1034
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you have at McCarthy's events. Do you

1035
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:16,519
have like I could get tents and glasses and things

1036
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:18,760
if I were doing let's say it's a wedding, right,

1037
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,039
then you do all that.

1038
00:50:20,159 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. You know, everything that a caterer would need, yep.

1039
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,159
Speaker 1: Is all provided, it's all provided by us. Okay ye,

1040
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,360
and then you've got the caterers coming in and there's

1041
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,639
gonna be sit down service in.

1042
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:32,119
Speaker 2: This Yeah the double decker area.

1043
00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: Damn, that's a great price.

1044
00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, I know you gotta pay for the

1045
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,320
food and the booze. Okay, yeah, but you're still like

1046
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,360
you're in it's the life of luxury.

1047
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, that's where you want to be a story.

1048
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: Of time overlooking the whole thing.

1049
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:49,599
Speaker 1: Right, do you get a special lanyard that says a

1050
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:51,199
VIP Seriously? People love that.

1051
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:54,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. That's so like we're getting through the big

1052
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,639
picture stuff now, and it was exciting for Tommy too.

1053
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,519
Is like what's the fun like little frilly like things

1054
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:02,760
we're going to do or like doing like we're trying

1055
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,679
to develop the who any side show where it's like

1056
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,679
we already have all these cool things, right like food, whiskey, bands,

1057
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,559
all this, but then it's like, but let's do a

1058
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:12,679
hoo a side show or like a guy walking on

1059
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,599
still to a flamethrower like all these other things that that's.

1060
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:21,199
Speaker 1: All Jules, Yeah you went to clown cop Yeah.

1061
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: So that's so like those are the the unknowns too,

1062
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,960
where we're like it's already already going to be memorable,

1063
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:29,239
but how do we like take it even further? And

1064
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:31,639
all this fun wild stuff happening too?

1065
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,559
Speaker 1: What about Uh? I'll ask and I don't know, but

1066
00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:38,239
you think of things like the PGA they have volunteers,

1067
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,559
do you are you looking for people because to pull

1068
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:45,440
this off right in terms of yeah, yeah, parking and I.

1069
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: Don't know, and people can write us through the website.

1070
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:49,800
We've already got a lot of volunteer inquiries.

1071
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,519
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I am sure.

1072
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,079
Speaker 2: So it's like you know, obviously the Trade Office like

1073
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:57,440
I love to volunteer, but I also like a free pass,

1074
00:51:57,519 --> 00:52:00,800
you know, understandable, but people can play reach out to us.

1075
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,480
And that's also where we're still laying out like site

1076
00:52:03,559 --> 00:52:06,039
logistics of how many people are needed in all these

1077
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:08,400
different spaces in for Lewis water ticketing.

1078
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,679
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a lot, yeah, a lot.

1079
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot.

1080
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: But you seem happy that you did it, yeah, or

1081
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:14,920
you're doing it.

1082
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just excited to see what's going to happen next.

1083
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:19,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think that that needs to be on

1084
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,440
a T shirt Auto McCarthy t shirt excited to see

1085
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,119
what happens next?

1086
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: Well, so the the LLC name, because the DBA which

1087
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,519
you're doing business is Who, Nanni and Whiskey. Uh, but

1088
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:33,239
the LLC is But wait, there's more.

1089
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,199
Speaker 1: I like that.

1090
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 2: That's because my wife just like what was next? But wait,

1091
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,000
there's more LLC. Does she ever think I did?

1092
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:44,559
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't sure what I was signing up for,

1093
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,199
but I didn't think it was going to be all this.

1094
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: I think she always is like, what's the next? Like

1095
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,840
she definitely says to people like I've always just wondered

1096
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,119
what he's going to do next.

1097
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great thing. Yeah, and so

1098
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,679
far it seems to have worked out. Yeah, better than

1099
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,480
that expect her.

1100
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 2: I mean our first date I picked her up, I

1101
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,280
was shirtless and I wasn't wearing shoes. I don't know why. Yeah,

1102
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:07,639
I wasn't even like and I wasn't like a big

1103
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:09,280
macho guy when I was younger, Like, I didn't even

1104
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,159
work out when I was like twenty five years old.

1105
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,599
And I took her on tours of like I worked

1106
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:17,440
for another company at the time, and I took around

1107
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:19,559
like tours of like tents I set up around Rochester.

1108
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,559
I swear to god, that was our first date. And

1109
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,360
she was like, we gotta be She's thinking, we're going

1110
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,159
out to dinner and there's no dinner at the At

1111
00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:30,800
the end of the tour, we I'm like, let's go

1112
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,800
to uh the Twelve Corners Convenience and Brighton and pick

1113
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,840
up some douce juice is a bud Lighters and drink

1114
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,599
him and copsil. Yeah, that's what we did.

1115
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,599
Speaker 1: And that's what you did. But no shirt, no shoes,

1116
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,679
you can't get in there. She had to go to Buds.

1117
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: It was all good. I think I walked in without

1118
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:46,760
a shirt on.

1119
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: It really Wow, that's such a hippie vibe.

1120
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm not even hippy.

1121
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: No, I know, you're not appie move and it's not

1122
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:57,039
really it's not fair to say hippie vibe because I

1123
00:53:57,079 --> 00:53:59,480
think hippie gets a bad thing. But it is a

1124
00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:04,800
very relaxed, confident person. Not necessarily show off. I don't

1125
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,320
think that, but confident and I and that's comfortable.

1126
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean the summertime. I prefer like if

1127
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,320
I'm at the lake, I'm like, no shirt, Like I

1128
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,960
don't have a shirt on like ever, Yeah, probably no shoes.

1129
00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what it is. Yeah, well maybe that's will

1130
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:23,800
that be the Hoochin Annie outfit. No shirt, no shoes,

1131
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:28,239
no problem, No, Sean has been a pleasure. Get to

1132
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,360
Hoochin Annie dot com. Get the tickets. They go on

1133
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:33,920
sale Friday at noon, right at noon, yeap, that's this.

1134
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:36,199
That's the day after tomorrow. So that would be March

1135
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,400
twenty eighth. Yep, March twenty eighth. In Yeah, it is

1136
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,159
a big day yea.

1137
00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: And we think, you know, it's like we have we

1138
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:44,840
have a good capacity at the park. But I think

1139
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,360
some of the days, especially if they really resonate with you, it's.

1140
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,039
Speaker 1: What time does it all like the gates open and stuff.

1141
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,599
Speaker 2: That's a really good question. So just the way the

1142
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:56,480
timing worked out, Friday and Sunday are two to ten, okay,

1143
00:54:56,639 --> 00:54:58,599
I joked. Sunday we have to open lakes. Everyone has

1144
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:01,199
to go to church pen for what they did the

1145
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,360
night before at our festival. Saturdays noon to ten okay,

1146
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,800
So Saturday will be the big day, the World of

1147
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,480
Whiskey is open till seven, I believe each day. Okay,

1148
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,480
same thing with free beer tasting. Obviously, food vendors will

1149
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,079
be open, just.

1150
00:55:17,159 --> 00:55:19,519
Speaker 1: Those timings and all figuring all that out.

1151
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, well it's how much it's too much and

1152
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,119
how much is too much also for the vendors that

1153
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:26,159
are involved, you know what I mean, like what works

1154
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,920
for what's the fine medium that will make everyone happy?

1155
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: I think this could become such a big thing. And

1156
00:55:33,039 --> 00:55:38,840
what I love about it is it helps the area, right, hotels, restaurants,

1157
00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:42,079
even camp sites, whatever that people are going to go

1158
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:43,079
to to be at this.

1159
00:55:43,639 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 2: I mean even our our hotel sponsors, Indus Hospitality, hewns

1160
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:51,079
the hampton In actually right over here for forty one

1161
00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:55,320
downtown hampton In and the Holiday and Express which but

1162
00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:58,360
I mean we it's the holiday and Express is pretty

1163
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much sold out for the weekend because we have a

1164
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:02,239
house all you know, the bands, yeah, the vendors coming

1165
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,840
in everything, So it's like but I think, all, yeah,

1166
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the goal is for it to be good, even the

1167
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,800
vendors coming in. I mean it's like our World of Whiskey,

1168
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,320
it's almost all outside vendors. So between those vendors, you know,

1169
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,039
artisans coming in that travel around food people. It's gonna

1170
00:56:18,039 --> 00:56:21,599
be hundreds of people that will need accommodations.

1171
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Speaker 1: Right, and and plus all the people coming to see

1172
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:25,920
the music and stuff, correct, which is great. Get those

1173
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,320
tickets Chinanni dot com. And if you need any kind

1174
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,519
of hospitality, tents or catering stuff, it's all at McCarthy events. Right,

1175
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,400
I'm the guy. It's all right there. It's a wonderful thing.

1176
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And if someday at hoo Chin Annie can bring in

1177
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,280
this guy, I would love it. John Hyatt, all right,

1178
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,320
I love this song. It's Tennessee plates. It's like it's

1179
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,920
a little tribute to Elvis Sean. Thank you. I'm Bill Moran,

1180
00:56:50,000 --> 00:57:04,119
will see you tomorrow. They know what Leo's You know

1181
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:06,519
what Leo's does. It makes life easier. Yeah, I like

1182
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:08,800
to go in there. I'm a big fan of Boar's

1183
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,239
head cold cuts. Leo's carries Bor's head cold cuts. They

1184
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,440
have a grabbing go case so I don't have to

1185
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,920
wait in line in the deli. They have prepackaged freshly

1186
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,400
half pounds of Boar's head roast beef. Let's say I

1187
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,960
can grab that half pound of cheese, and I'm in

1188
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:27,719
line and out the door. I probably grab some other

1189
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,840
things too, like they're stuffed bread. I love Leo's stuff bread.

1190
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,559
Heat that up. It's a great snack. It's a great

1191
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:35,400
snack when the kids come home and they're hungry and

1192
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,519
all that. And you know you got busy, busy lives

1193
00:57:38,639 --> 00:57:41,679
right now, maybe you need to grab some meals just

1194
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,119
to have in the fridge. You can get everything from chicken,

1195
00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:48,960
palm full, salads, delicious kishas. It's all there and available

1196
00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:51,960
to you at Leo's. And of course you got to

1197
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,760
get the Canoli's. You go to Leo's, you got it.

1198
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,199
You got to come home with the can You don't

1199
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:57,559
come home with the Canoli's, you're in trouble. Leo's. What's

1200
00:57:57,639 --> 00:58:01,760
the best thing about Leo's. Every thing on Despatch Drive

1201
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,880
in East Rochester, open every day.