Speaker 1: One of the things that they talked about on WWEE unreal.
Speaker 1: I just did a review for the series on the
Speaker 1: podcast today. One of the things they talked about on
Speaker 1: there was how hard it is to keep a secret
Speaker 1: in wrestling these days because everybody knows everything. You know,
Speaker 1: if there's even a hint of something right, everybody knows,
Speaker 1: Oh there's a talk of this, this person might come back,
Speaker 1: this person was spotted at the airport, and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's very hard to keep a surprise. And I
Speaker 1: don't know that very many people were necessarily surprised by
Speaker 1: Seth Rollins not actually being hurt and cashing in his
Speaker 1: money in the bank last night on Night one. But
Speaker 1: one thing I can tell you is that I did
Speaker 1: not hear a fucking thing about brock Lesner being back
Speaker 1: in WWE at Summer Slim this weekend. So I will
Speaker 1: at least, if nothing else, I will at least, you know,
Speaker 1: if I was wearing a hat, I would tip my
Speaker 1: cap to them that they were at least able to
Speaker 1: keep this under wraps. But boy, now we know, don't
Speaker 1: we Now we know why they have shit canned the
Speaker 1: post show media scrubs that they had been doing for
Speaker 1: quite some time, and why it just so happens for
Speaker 1: Summer Slam this weekend that they're not doing that. They're
Speaker 1: just doing their or a little post show panel that
Speaker 1: they're doing. Now it becomes very clear why they're no
Speaker 1: longer doing them. This main event tonight, I don't even
Speaker 1: know where to begin with this, but let's start with
Speaker 1: this main event, John Cena and Cody Rhoades for the
Speaker 1: WWE Championship. This main event tonight was light years better
Speaker 1: than WrestleMania, and it is very interesting that we went
Speaker 1: from having legitimately one of the worst matches of the
Speaker 1: entire year, especially when you take into consideration the fact
Speaker 1: that it was the WrestleMania main event, one of the
Speaker 1: worst most disappointing matches of the entire year in April,
Speaker 1: and you take those same two people and you put
Speaker 1: them in the ring tonight and they end up with
Speaker 1: a match of the year Cander. I mean, you talk
Speaker 1: about doing a one tot eighty, you talk about night
Speaker 1: and fucking day with John Cena and Cody Rhodes, and
Speaker 1: it's actually too bad. It's too bad that as great
Speaker 1: of a match as those two guys went out there
Speaker 1: and had tonight. All of the discourse and all of
Speaker 1: the talk coming out of this show here is going
Speaker 1: to be about what happened when the match was over,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of good and a lot of bad.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who are going to be
Speaker 1: excited by what happened, and there are going to be
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are going to be repulsed
Speaker 1: and disappointed by what happened. And that really is going
Speaker 1: to become the conversation here coming out of this show.
Speaker 1: I thought it was very weird the way the WWE
Speaker 1: just seemed to retcon the John Cena heel turned on
Speaker 1: Friday night. I was not convinced that he had actually
Speaker 1: gone back to being a babyface. I thought that it
Speaker 1: was all just a big swerve. This is like the
Speaker 1: old Stone Cold in two thousand and one, right, he
Speaker 1: wants everybody to believe the old John Cena is back
Speaker 1: and then we'll get some kind of a swerve here
Speaker 1: on this show. And in fact, it appears that is
Speaker 1: not the case. John Cena is back to being John Cena.
Speaker 1: He is back to being a babyface, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: why do it? Forty eight hours before the rematch at SummerSlam,
Speaker 1: and based on what they did tonight, now we know
Speaker 1: why he had to go back to being Babyface for
Speaker 1: them to set up the postmatch angle on the show tonight.
Speaker 1: I'd be very curious to know when all of this
Speaker 1: came about, when they made the decision to turn John
Speaker 1: Cena back babyface, when they did, When did this all
Speaker 1: come together? And I'm sure these details will leak in
Speaker 1: due time and it'll come out. There was no Travis Scott,
Speaker 1: there was no Rock. What we had was two guys
Speaker 1: who went out there. John Cena turned back the hands
Speaker 1: of time. This was the best John Cena match since
Speaker 1: he came back. It may end up being the best
Speaker 1: John Cena match of this entire retirement tour. I don't
Speaker 1: know that we're going to get a better one than
Speaker 1: the one that we got tonight with and Cody Rhods.
Speaker 1: The street fight stipulation was something that they needed. They
Speaker 1: needed the smoke and mirrors because the match they had
Speaker 1: at WrestleMania was no good. They needed to have the
Speaker 1: access to the tables and the chairs and fighting in
Speaker 1: the crowd, and it helped the match immensely. And these
Speaker 1: two guys went out there for almost forty minutes tonight,
Speaker 1: and they tore it up and they had a classic
Speaker 1: main event, and when it was over, John Cena was
Speaker 1: left all alone in the ring. Cody Rhodes gave him
Speaker 1: the ring and they turned the music off and it
Speaker 1: was just the fans applauding and giving John Cena his
Speaker 1: flowers and giving John Cena a standing ovation. And had
Speaker 1: they gone off the air that way, that would have
Speaker 1: been a very appropriate ending in his final Summer Slam
Speaker 1: for John Cena after losing the WWE Championship, which he
Speaker 1: did tonight, and Cody Rhodes once again is the WWE Champion,
Speaker 1: which is the way it should be. But after losing
Speaker 1: the WWE title, for John Cena to be able to
Speaker 1: soak up the cheers and the adulation of the crowd
Speaker 1: and walk off into the sunset in his final Summer
Speaker 1: Slam appearance, but then we hear brock Lesner's theme song,
Speaker 1: and of course people lose their minds because nobody was
Speaker 1: expecting it. Brock Lesner has not been visible, he has
Speaker 1: not been seen. He's barely been mentioned maybe here and
Speaker 1: there on WWE television for two years. The last time
Speaker 1: we saw brock Lesner was two years ago on this
Speaker 1: very show he wrestled Cody Rhoades. And if you're wondering, well,
Speaker 1: why has it been so long since we've seen Brock Lesner, Well,
Speaker 1: there's a very good reason for that. Unless you've been
Speaker 1: living under a fucking rock, you probably have a pretty
Speaker 1: good idea of why we have not seen Brock Lesner. Now,
Speaker 1: I want to clear up some stuff here because it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of questions about, you know, what's
Speaker 1: the deal with Brock and what came out about Brock
Speaker 1: and all this. Just to sum it up real quick, okay,
Speaker 1: In the Janelle Grant lawsuit, the sex trafficking lawsuit against
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon. In the original suit, there was a mention
Speaker 1: made of a talent WWE and I think it even
Speaker 1: said like former UFC fighter. Brock's name was not mentioned,
Speaker 1: but it was very clear who she was referring to
Speaker 1: in this suit. And again, I'm not gonna I would
Speaker 1: have the suit in front of me, and I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, paraphrasing here basically, but the claim is that
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon basically offered her to him for sex in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one when he was trying to negotiate a
Speaker 1: new contract to bring Brock back to WWE. He wanted
Speaker 1: to extend Brock's deal or sign him to a new one.
Speaker 1: And so allegedly he basically offered her to him as
Speaker 1: like a plaything, okay, essentially, and he also allegedly demanded
Speaker 1: that she create sexualized content. We'll just say sexualized content. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's leave it at that. We don't have to
Speaker 1: get into the specifics, but to create sexualized content that
Speaker 1: he could then share with Brock. And you know what
Speaker 1: I'm orri if you read the suit, you know what
Speaker 1: I referred to. Now, there was supposed to be some
Speaker 1: sort of meeting. I think he might have even allegedly
Speaker 1: flown Brock into Connecticut to actually meet with her. They
Speaker 1: never met. Okay, so she never met Brocklesner. They never
Speaker 1: had any sort of relationship or interaction in person or
Speaker 1: anything like that. And these are the allegations that were
Speaker 1: all laid out. Now. She amended her complaint earlier this year,
Speaker 1: and the amended complaint was accepted by the court. And
Speaker 1: so now we know that the name was in fact Brocklesner.
Speaker 1: So it's not like, oh, maybe it wasn't Brock. No,
Speaker 1: it was Brock. Okay, Brock was the one that was
Speaker 1: being named in there. And that's it. That's all we know.
Speaker 1: Now you can make of that what you will. People
Speaker 1: are gonna have a lot of different opinions about this. Oh, well,
Speaker 1: he didn't do anything wrong. What did brock Lesnar do wrong?
Speaker 1: He never met the woman, he never had sex with
Speaker 1: the woman. He as far as we know, he never
Speaker 1: did anything with Janelle Gray. Sure, but if you are
Speaker 1: to believe these allegations, it is obviously disgusting, and it
Speaker 1: is obviously very troubling. And I look at it again
Speaker 1: with a pri I I look at this and I say,
Speaker 1: there's good reason that TKO and WWE would not want
Speaker 1: to be associated with Brocklesner until this entire situation is
Speaker 1: cleared up, right, because this case is still ongoing. It's
Speaker 1: a civil matter, it's not a criminal matter. And again,
Speaker 1: he's not a defendant. Brocklesner is not a name defendant
Speaker 1: in the suit. All of that is true. But the
Speaker 1: fact that he is roped into all of this stuff
Speaker 1: and in the matter that he is obviously is pretty
Speaker 1: fucking gross. That's why we have not seen or heard
Speaker 1: from Brocklesner in two years. Do you honestly believe were
Speaker 1: it not for the Janelle Grant stuff, that it would
Speaker 1: be two years before WWE broke the emergency glass to
Speaker 1: bring back brock Lesner. He would have been back a
Speaker 1: long time ago. Now. I don't know what went into
Speaker 1: the thought process here to bring him back now, but
Speaker 1: I do know that him and John Cena have a
Speaker 1: long history together. This is John Cena's retirement year. He's
Speaker 1: done at the end of this year. I don't know
Speaker 1: if this was something that WWE went to Brock. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Brock reached out to WWE. I don't
Speaker 1: know if John Cena floated the idea of, hey, let
Speaker 1: me work with Brock. I don't think that happened. John
Speaker 1: Cena is on record as saying that he hasn't lobby
Speaker 1: for anything. He's never lobbied for an opponent or for
Speaker 1: a match in his entire career. He basically shows up
Speaker 1: to work and does what he's told. So again, I
Speaker 1: would love to know the why now aspect of this
Speaker 1: story because there's going to be a lot of people.
Speaker 1: This is going to be a very controversial thing, and
Speaker 1: if you're someone who was going to just kind of
Speaker 1: poop poo it and say, oh, these people are just
Speaker 1: being soft and these people have He's not an like.
Speaker 1: You have to understand the situation. It's a very disgusting situation. Right.
Speaker 1: There are other people also who were either kind of
Speaker 1: named or alluded to in the suit. I think Michael
Speaker 1: Hayes was one of them, I believe in the complaint
Speaker 1: who also there was Content Cuoreo sexualized content career for him,
Speaker 1: and he's all over this fucking WWE unreal show. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a company that is going to have to
Speaker 1: address these issues at some point because WWE is a
Speaker 1: name defendant in that suit. It's not just Vince McMahon.
Speaker 1: It's Vince McMahon and WWE. And there are people who
Speaker 1: work for or have worked for WWE who are also
Speaker 1: roped into that whole thing. They have made the choice that,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's just allegations. We want to work
Speaker 1: with Brock, we want to be in the Brock Lesnar business.
Speaker 1: And there's more in it for us to bring him
Speaker 1: back than to not do business with him at all. Right,
Speaker 1: It's not like they were in jeopardy of losing Brock
Speaker 1: to aw or somebody else. Brock's been sitting on his
Speaker 1: fucking ranch. He's been milking cows, He's been slaughtering animals
Speaker 1: and doing whatever he does, twiddling his thumbs. He's got
Speaker 1: more money than he'll ever be able to spend in
Speaker 1: his entire life. But they made the decision that, you
Speaker 1: know what, before John Cena is done, we want one
Speaker 1: more match between Brock Lesner and John Cena. Their history
Speaker 1: goes back many, many years. Their history goes all the
Speaker 1: way back to two thousand and three. That was the
Speaker 1: first time they wrestled in a pay per view match
Speaker 1: in WWE, and it was very eerie the way they
Speaker 1: did his return tonight, because Brock comes out as a surprise.
Speaker 1: And I was there in Miami the night that brock
Speaker 1: Lesner came back to WWE in twenty twelve. It was
Speaker 1: the raw after WrestleMania Okay, that first Rock Sena match,
Speaker 1: and at the very end of the show, Brock came
Speaker 1: out and he circled the ring like a shark, just
Speaker 1: like he did tonight. John Cena standing in the middle
Speaker 1: of the ring, shocked brock Lesner slowly walking around the ring,
Speaker 1: slowly getting into the ring. He gets into the ring
Speaker 1: and tonight, as he did in twenty twelve, he picks
Speaker 1: up John Cena and delivers in F five one F five,
Speaker 1: He leaves him laying in the ring. They hit his
Speaker 1: music and he leaves, and that is how Summer Slam
Speaker 1: went off the air tonight, leading one to believe that
Speaker 1: we are about to get one last match, possibly in
Speaker 1: Paris at the end of this month, between brock Lesner
Speaker 1: and John Cena. I don't know too many people who
Speaker 1: have been clamoring for the return of brock Lesner. If
Speaker 1: Brocklesner's last WWE appearance was putting over Cody Rhodes, who
Speaker 1: was the heir apparent, right, Cody was on his way
Speaker 1: to beating Roman Reigns at WrestleMania last year. If the
Speaker 1: last brock Lesnar appearance was him putting over Cody Roads
Speaker 1: at Summersalem two years ago, that would have been a
Speaker 1: fine way for him to ride off into the sunset.
Speaker 1: He's done everything there is to do. He's won every championship,
Speaker 1: He's wrestled all the top names. Right, A lot of
Speaker 1: his matches don't go very long. But if that was
Speaker 1: his last appearance, okay, great, Right At least they got
Speaker 1: something out of it. Now he's back. Is he back
Speaker 1: full time? Is he back just to wrestle with John Cena?
Speaker 1: Are we going to see him on television, you know,
Speaker 1: on a regular basis? Are we going to see him
Speaker 1: you know, once every three months. We don't know a
Speaker 1: lot of questions about this, but there will be a
Speaker 1: lot of discussion about this, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: very upset about WWE bringing him back and doing business
Speaker 1: with brock Lesner, And I just think it's important for
Speaker 1: people to understand why. And I don't fault those people
Speaker 1: for feeling that way. They have every right to feel
Speaker 1: that way. There's a lot of very icky, very disgusting
Speaker 1: aspects to this story. And WWE can cancel all their
Speaker 1: press scrums and they can go hide under a fucking
Speaker 1: rock if that's what they want to do. These are
Speaker 1: questions that are going to have to be answered at
Speaker 1: some point. Triple H is going to be out there
Speaker 1: doing interviews. He's going to be asked about this, and
Speaker 1: I would hope, okay, for his sake and for WWE's sake,
Speaker 1: that he is smart enough to huddle together with their
Speaker 1: team and come up with a real good answer. Because
Speaker 1: the questions are going to come. And I just think
Speaker 1: back to when he was first answering questions about the
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon stuff, and how fucking awful, how fucking awful
Speaker 1: he was at answering questions about this, And I understand
Speaker 1: it puts him in a very difficult spot when people
Speaker 1: ask him about Vince, because he's got that, you know,
Speaker 1: personal relationship with him and he's his father in law
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. I get that, but his answers
Speaker 1: when he would address this, even recently, I think he
Speaker 1: gave an answer just the other day, and I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm floored by how awful some of these answers are.
Speaker 1: So for his sake and for their sake, I hope
Speaker 1: they're prepared for these questions because these questions are going
Speaker 1: to come. But they obviously feel like being in the
Speaker 1: Brock Lesnar business is worth it for ww A. The
Speaker 1: fans certainly cheered for him. They were happy as shit
Speaker 1: see brock Lesner back on TV tonight. There is certain
Speaker 1: value that Brock brings to the product. Brock brings a
Speaker 1: certain authenticity that a lot of people do not have.
Speaker 1: And it's been two years, right, so we haven't seen
Speaker 1: him in a long time. If he's around, if he's
Speaker 1: gonna stick around for a while, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people beyond John Cena that we have never seen brock
Speaker 1: Lesnar work with before that he could step into the
Speaker 1: ring with, you know, brock Lesner getting into the ring
Speaker 1: with a fucking bron Breaker or a Jacob Fatu or
Speaker 1: people like that, right and start fantasy booking all kinds
Speaker 1: of matches for Brocklesner. But right now it's about Brocklesner
Speaker 1: and John Cena, and when that match takes place, I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think he's going to be seen as retirement
Speaker 1: opponent in December. I think they're going to have to
Speaker 1: do something, you know, obviously a little before that, you know.
Speaker 1: But it is interesting to note Fightful had a report
Speaker 1: about John Cena's schedule, just so people are aware of this.
Speaker 1: He's got nine dates left in his career coming out
Speaker 1: of the Summer Slam show. That's it. He's got nine
Speaker 1: dates left. Three more SmackDown appearances this month. Remember they
Speaker 1: have those overseas shows, so there's gonna be some early
Speaker 1: I don't know about raws, but at least smackdowns. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be some early shows again, just like there were
Speaker 1: back in March, because they got an international tour coming
Speaker 1: up in the next few weeks. So he's going to
Speaker 1: be in Montreal, He's going to be in Dublin, Ireland,
Speaker 1: and Scene is going to be in Leon, France. At
Speaker 1: this moment, unless he adds more, he only has I
Speaker 1: believe three is a three, three, four, four more US
Speaker 1: dates to his career. He's got four more dates in
Speaker 1: this country before he wraps it up and says I'm
Speaker 1: done again. He could always add more, but at this moment,
Speaker 1: that's all he has left, and I think three more
Speaker 1: PLS clash in Paris Perth. They're gonna be in Perth
Speaker 1: for Crown Jewel in October, possibly Survivor series rights, and
Speaker 1: that's it. So it's not a lot left for John
Speaker 1: Cena to do one of those matches. At least one
Speaker 1: is going to be with Brock. I remember when they
Speaker 1: had that match in twenty twelve at Extreme Rules. I
Speaker 1: love that match. It was so unique and different than
Speaker 1: anything else that you were seeing on WWE television at
Speaker 1: the time. It felt like a real battle. It felt
Speaker 1: like a real fight between those two and there was
Speaker 1: blood at a time when you really weren't seeing blood
Speaker 1: in WWE. So that match they had at extreme rules.
Speaker 1: I don't know what John Cena is going to go
Speaker 1: out there in twenty twenty five and do with Brocklesner.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that match looks like. That match
Speaker 1: does not look like the match we saw tonight. I
Speaker 1: can tell you that Brocklesner and John Cena are not
Speaker 1: going to go out there and have a thirty seven
Speaker 1: minute match the way that he did tonight with Cody Rubbs.
Speaker 1: So for old times sake, okay, sure, you know there's
Speaker 1: people who will get nostalgic about seeing Brocklesner and John
Speaker 1: Cena back in the ring. But again, I don't know
Speaker 1: quality wise what that match is going to look like,
Speaker 1: you know, when that time comes. But the idea that
Speaker 1: they they retcon the heel turn, to me is an
Speaker 1: admission that they realize they really fucked up with this
Speaker 1: heel turn, and I think that also needs to get
Speaker 1: some attention as well. They effectively wasted months, like a
Speaker 1: good four to five months of John Cena's final year
Speaker 1: with an idea that was a last minute idea they
Speaker 1: came up with, and they were practically tripping over each
Speaker 1: other and who would take credit for it? On that
Speaker 1: unreal show? Who came up with the idea for the
Speaker 1: John Cena heel turn? And they did it at WrestleMania,
Speaker 1: and there was a lot or elimination chamber and there
Speaker 1: was a lot of excitement for it. I was one
Speaker 1: of those people. I was like, man, this could be
Speaker 1: something really special, and unfortunately that turned out not to
Speaker 1: be the case. Here we are now in August. At
Speaker 1: least they had enough sense to say this isn't working.
Speaker 1: We want to go in a different direction with this.
Speaker 1: But time will not be kind to WWE when it
Speaker 1: comes to looking back on this final year for John
Speaker 1: Cena and the decision to turn him heel and not
Speaker 1: have any real follow up plan for it. I just
Speaker 1: think that's awful for one of the biggest stars in
Speaker 1: the history of your company and for all that he
Speaker 1: has given this company. He went along with it, I mean,
Speaker 1: he was obviously excited to try it, but the fact
Speaker 1: that they really just had no real grand plan for it.
Speaker 1: Of all people, you would think that he like knowing
Speaker 1: that you got him for one final year, they would
Speaker 1: have a really good plan for it, and they didn't,
Speaker 1: I think is shameful, but thankfully it's over now because
Speaker 1: it just for me anyway, it was not connecting, it
Speaker 1: was not working, so better to leave it in the
Speaker 1: past and not drag this out any longer. And so
Speaker 1: now we go on from here. That main event tonight
Speaker 1: was tremendous. It was also a very heel heavy night
Speaker 1: in terms of finishes, Like we were more than halfway
Speaker 1: through this show, and I'm sitting here going, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is with these finishes tonight? My god? I mean, look,
Speaker 1: we had Naomi defending the Women's World Championship, right. I
Speaker 1: had no expectation that Naomi, so it was her first
Speaker 1: title defense, Like, I had no expectation she was actually
Speaker 1: losing the championship, right, So you knew coming in that
Speaker 1: Naomi was going to retain, and she did, and we
Speaker 1: had an unbelievable amount of just insanity in the tables, ladders,
Speaker 1: and chairs match. I don't know what the wyats are
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Would they count as heels, would they
Speaker 1: count as baby faces? I guess they're kind of baby faces,
Speaker 1: but I don't even know what they're supposed to be.
Speaker 1: And so they retain their championships. In the TLC match,
Speaker 1: we have Becky Lynch and Lyra of Valkyria Women's Intercontinental Title.
Speaker 1: This seam poised for Lyra to get that big win
Speaker 1: back over Becky and win that championship back because she
Speaker 1: cannot challenge for it ever again, so long as Becky
Speaker 1: is champion. And what happens, Becky Lynch retains still the
Speaker 1: Intercontinental Champion, Solo Sokoa still the United States Champion. One
Speaker 1: of the most boring cage matches that I have seen
Speaker 1: in years. Jacob's in there, Jacob's doing what he can,
Speaker 1: but I mean, my god, I'm talking just about like
Speaker 1: the performances of the talent in the match. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about just the match itself, the booking, and here comes
Speaker 1: the MFTs. Who gives a flying fuck? I hated that match.
Speaker 1: Then you had the Intercontinental Championship on the line. AJ
Speaker 1: Styles and Dominique Mysterio with a kind of a clever
Speaker 1: spot there near the finish with the boot which we'll
Speaker 1: get into. Dom retains another heel win, So Dom wins,
Speaker 1: Becky wins, Solo wins, Naomi wins, and it all made
Speaker 1: way for this great main event. But like you look
Speaker 1: at this show, and like it was so heel heavy
Speaker 1: and so many deflating finishes. I'm like, who booked this?
Speaker 1: Who thought this was a good idea? Up and down
Speaker 1: the car tonight with this shit? I didn't understand that.
Speaker 1: But I think that Night too is a lot like
Speaker 1: Night one. If you remember when I came on here
Speaker 1: last night, I said, man, going into the main event,
Speaker 1: Night one, to me on the whole was a C
Speaker 1: plus maybe a B minus, and then the main event
Speaker 1: stuff bumped it up to a bee. I feel the
Speaker 1: exact same way sitting here now that I did twenty
Speaker 1: four hours ago. This show to me was a C
Speaker 1: plus maybe a B minus going into the event. That
Speaker 1: main event was excellent, and then they had the big shock,
Speaker 1: you know, return there, the big shock angle at the end.
Speaker 1: But when it was all said and done, I looked
Speaker 1: at the show and said, you know what, this feels
Speaker 1: like a bee. I really wouldn't go higher than that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's virtually identical between the two nights. But
Speaker 1: I look at this and I go, did this show
Speaker 1: really need to be two nights? Could we have shaved
Speaker 1: some stuff off and just kind of condensed it into one? Probably,
Speaker 1: but the two night format is not going anywhere. They're
Speaker 1: doing two nights again next year, and I promise you
Speaker 1: it will be two nights again the year after that,
Speaker 1: and the year after that and the year after that, because,
Speaker 1: as they said, they had over one hundred and thirteen
Speaker 1: thousand people that they put in met Life Stadium between
Speaker 1: these two nights. They're not giving up that kind of business.
Speaker 1: They're not going to suddenly go back to one night
Speaker 1: and run a show in front of fifty thousand people
Speaker 1: when they can double or more than double that number
Speaker 1: and make even more money off of that. So the
Speaker 1: two night format is not going anyway where. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go through this entire show. We'll talk about the big
Speaker 1: return at the end and everything in between. This is
Speaker 1: your Summer Slam twenty twenty five review Night number two.
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Speaker 1: goal going with the superchats in the chat, so if
Speaker 1: we hit that one, we'll do double. Be the booker,
Speaker 1: I'll double it. But yeah, superchats are open. You will
Speaker 1: see them popping up as we go along here. Let
Speaker 1: us get into this. There is much to get into.
Speaker 1: Triple H was already at ringside and he was introduced
Speaker 1: into the ring to kick things off, and he welcomed
Speaker 1: everyone to the biggest Summer Slam in history. No Cardi
Speaker 1: b Apparently she was only the host for one night.
Speaker 1: She was not seen at all tonight. And then they
Speaker 1: opened with the match that coming into this show I
Speaker 1: was looking forward to the most which was the triple
Speaker 1: threat match for the Women's World Championship. It was Naomi
Speaker 1: defending against Ria Ripley an EO Sky. The triple threat
Speaker 1: match of WrestleMania, which had Ria, EO and Bianca is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite matches of the entire year. That
Speaker 1: match was fucking awesome. The match with Ria in EO
Speaker 1: at Evolution was fucking awesome. Just having Ria in EO
Speaker 1: back in the ring, I said, I'm sold. And Naomi
Speaker 1: has had a nice run for herself as a heel
Speaker 1: this year first title defense. Okay, let you drop her
Speaker 1: in the mix and see what happens here. So I
Speaker 1: was looking forward to this match a lot. Naomi was
Speaker 1: played to the rain. Oh wait. She was played to
Speaker 1: the ring by the Learning Trip always seven hundred. Fuck that.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize. Okay, you know what. We're gonna up
Speaker 1: that goal. We're gonna have that goal to a minimum
Speaker 1: one thousand likes for Be the booker. We need at
Speaker 1: least one thousand likes for Be the Booker. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize we're already over seven hundred. Naomi was
Speaker 1: played to the ring by her father. I had no
Speaker 1: idea that her father was a guitarist in a band. His
Speaker 1: name is Sean McCrae. He was out there on stage.
Speaker 1: She came out. She was kind of jamming with him
Speaker 1: there for a little bit, nice little father daughter moment.
Speaker 1: So Naomi exited the ring as soon as the bell rang.
Speaker 1: She went to the floor and Rhea is looking outside,
Speaker 1: EO's looking outside. They've got their eyes locked on her. Right.
Speaker 1: Riea goes outside and blocks her from going this way.
Speaker 1: Naomi tries to go the other way, and now EO
Speaker 1: was out there and EO is blocking her path. So
Speaker 1: they get her in the ring and they took turns
Speaker 1: punching her. Naomi did take control. She hit a top
Speaker 1: ro blockbuster on Rhea for a two count. Eo got
Speaker 1: back into the ring. Naomi cleared her very quickly with
Speaker 1: a boot to the face. Ripley came back got the
Speaker 1: better of Naomi, who got blasted by a springboard dropkick
Speaker 1: by EO. Ripley started applodding and she joined in on
Speaker 1: EO's little bit where she pointed herself Ripley and EO.
Speaker 1: They went at it. She got EO in an electric
Speaker 1: chair position, dropped her face first on the mat. Ripley
Speaker 1: set up for riptide, but EO countered into a pin
Speaker 1: for a two count. EO caught Ria with a poison
Speaker 1: RNA and then EO covered Naomi, though returned to break
Speaker 1: up the pin. So there was a springboard moon salt
Speaker 1: on the outside by EO that wiped out both women.
Speaker 1: Back inside, she doled out the bullet train knees in
Speaker 1: the corner, Meteora to Rha in one corner, Meteora to
Speaker 1: Naomi in the other. EO went to the ropes to
Speaker 1: set up for something. I don't know what it was,
Speaker 1: but Rhea cut her off. Naomi attacked Rhea from behind
Speaker 1: and hit her split legged moonsalt. She had Ria covered,
Speaker 1: but Eo came flying off the top with her Genius
Speaker 1: of the Sky moon Salt to break it up, but
Speaker 1: Naomi moved and so she landed on Riha instead. Naomi
Speaker 1: took out Eo with a running knee strike knocked her
Speaker 1: right out of the ring. Ripley, though caught Naomi with
Speaker 1: riptide she had the title one. EO jumped back into
Speaker 1: the ring just in time to break up the cut.
Speaker 1: I mean just in time to break up the cover.
Speaker 1: So it was back to Ria and EO all alone
Speaker 1: in the ring. Eo dump Ria to the apron and
Speaker 1: then came charging in. Ripley booted her out or booted
Speaker 1: her down to the mat I should say so. Ria
Speaker 1: took out Naomi on the floor with a cannonball right
Speaker 1: wipes out the champion. She climbs back up on the apron. Eo,
Speaker 1: though dove through the ropes, grabbed a hold of Rhea
Speaker 1: on the way down as she was going for a
Speaker 1: sunset bomb. Rhea held on but then she let go
Speaker 1: and then EO power bomb Rhea on top of Naomi
Speaker 1: who was laying on the ground. Ria and Eo they
Speaker 1: ended up back inside and on the ropes. Ria got
Speaker 1: Eo in position for an avalanche riptide from the middle rope.
Speaker 1: She dropped her and again she had the title one.
Speaker 1: This was her match to lose, just like an evolution, right,
Speaker 1: she got that visual pin right, there was no referee.
Speaker 1: Naomi at that moment. Jump back into the rings. She
Speaker 1: schoolboyed Rhea while holding on to Ria's gear, her belt,
Speaker 1: whatever it was for added leverage, and she pinned Rhea
Speaker 1: ripley to retain the title. When this was over, my
Speaker 1: first thought was, well, it was not WrestleMania, and it
Speaker 1: was hard to not yet you don't want to compare,
Speaker 1: but you know, again, it's hard not to. Two of
Speaker 1: the three women in this match were in the triple
Speaker 1: Threat match at WrestleMania, and here we are yet another
Speaker 1: triple threat match for the women's world title. So it's
Speaker 1: hard not to have, you know, certain expectations coming into this.
Speaker 1: This was not WrestleMania. It was still a fun match.
Speaker 1: It could not recapture the magic that those three women
Speaker 1: had back in April. That's not what this was, or
Speaker 1: even the greatness of the match between Riha and Eo
Speaker 1: at Evolution. This was not as good as that match either.
Speaker 1: You know, if I had to rate it, I would
Speaker 1: go as solid three and a half out of five
Speaker 1: for this match here, unlike it WrestleMania, you know, because Bianca.
Speaker 1: This was not the case with Bianca with Naomi, because
Speaker 1: she was the lone heel in this match. What she
Speaker 1: was trying to do was actively trying to avoid these
Speaker 1: two women wherever she could, and she would sneak in
Speaker 1: at the most you know, opportune moment. So the psychology
Speaker 1: here was a little bit different. And also the fact
Speaker 1: that Rhea Ripley had this match one more than once
Speaker 1: and yet again had the championship potentially taken away from her,
Speaker 1: and that was the story they were trying to get
Speaker 1: over on commentary as well. So now we know that
Speaker 1: Naomi is defending that title against Stephanie vicer a clash
Speaker 1: in Paris at the end of this month. No surprise there.
Speaker 1: I mean again, we had to know this, Like nobody
Speaker 1: reasonably would have expected Naomi to lose the championship in
Speaker 1: her first defense. Why would she so I mean that
Speaker 1: she's going on to wrestle Stephanie is not really much
Speaker 1: of a surprise. What I'm wondering is what is the
Speaker 1: next direction here for Ria Ripley. Now they have that
Speaker 1: show coming up in October in Perth. You would think
Speaker 1: that Rhea is going to be going for the championship
Speaker 1: in Perth. Why wouldn't she? Well, Perth is still two
Speaker 1: months away, so you know, what does she do in
Speaker 1: the meantime and how do they get there? Are they
Speaker 1: doing the same thing they did at the last Crown
Speaker 1: Jewel in Saudi when they did Champion against Champion, Because
Speaker 1: if they do that, Ria wouldn't be getting a title
Speaker 1: match on that show. The Raw after the Crown Jewel
Speaker 1: show is also in Perth, right, the Perth show is
Speaker 1: on October eleventh. They have Raw in Perth, Australia on
Speaker 1: October thirteenth. Maybe Riho Ripley gets a championship match on
Speaker 1: Raw and not at Crown Jewels, so that has to
Speaker 1: be the destination for her. What she does in the meantime,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm a little more worried about Eo Sky.
Speaker 1: Rhea Ripley is going to be just fine. Like Rhea
Speaker 1: Ripley will always be in the mix because Rhea Ripley
Speaker 1: is one of the most popular stars they have on
Speaker 1: that roster. I'm worried that Eo Sky is going to
Speaker 1: sort of fall between the cracks and just end up
Speaker 1: in the mid card somewhere, not doing anything particularly special.
Speaker 1: I hope that doesn't happen, or at least not for
Speaker 1: very long. If that means that they want to move
Speaker 1: her and shift her over to SmackDown, I'm all for that.
Speaker 1: She is one of the best they have in the
Speaker 1: entire company. I don't want to see her fall through
Speaker 1: the cracks. I don't want to see her have to
Speaker 1: go to the back of the line. So I really hope,
Speaker 1: even more than Rhea, Eo is the one who I
Speaker 1: really hope you know they have a solid plan for
Speaker 1: coming out of this, because I mean, just be a
Speaker 1: fucking waste if they didn't. That they showed Tyrese Haliburton
Speaker 1: in the crowd and the Indiana Pacers and they mentioned
Speaker 1: that he had just had surgery for its foreign achilles tendon.
Speaker 1: I do remember that injury. I think we all do.
Speaker 1: If you were watching the NBA Finals, Nick Hogan and
Speaker 1: his wife were also back again as they were last night.
Speaker 1: For Night one, they showed Michelle McCool and her daughter,
Speaker 1: her and Undertaker's daughter in the crowd, and in celebration
Speaker 1: of this being twenty five years since the very first
Speaker 1: TLC match at SummerSlam, they cut to the Dudley Boys
Speaker 1: in the crowd, Bubba Ray and Devon, and then in
Speaker 1: a different part of the crowd they cut to the
Speaker 1: Hardy Boys and they plugged the fact that they were
Speaker 1: about to have one more match together at the TNA
Speaker 1: Bound for Glory pay per view just coming up in October.
Speaker 1: I of course looking at Bubbaret and I'm saying, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, that's Bully Ray, the House of Glory Crown
Speaker 1: Jewel Champion. I was kind of hoping he would have
Speaker 1: the belt with him, but he didn't. I know he
Speaker 1: had it at the he had it at Wrestle Khan.
Speaker 1: That would have been something if he was flashing that
Speaker 1: hog title here on the Summerslim. But no such luck.
Speaker 1: But that led into the tables, ladders and chairs match.
Speaker 1: Twenty five years later, we have another TLC match, and
Speaker 1: this time it is double the size of the first one.
Speaker 1: First one had three teams this one had six. It
Speaker 1: was the Wyat six defending the tag team titles against
Speaker 1: the Street Profits, DIY, MotorCity machine Guns, Phraxium, and the
Speaker 1: team of Andrade and Ray Phoenix. Tables, ladders, and chairs
Speaker 1: were set up all around ringside, and you had to
Speaker 1: know coming into this match, this is going to be insanity.
Speaker 1: You have twelve men there, okay, Like, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of arms and legs, that's a lot of tables and
Speaker 1: chairs and ladders laying around. There's just so much that
Speaker 1: could go wrong. But you had to know coming in
Speaker 1: that this was going to be pure insanity, and that's
Speaker 1: exactly what it was. Now. The Wyats got the last
Speaker 1: entrance coming out. No lights out for this because they
Speaker 1: were outdoors and it was still light outside, and from
Speaker 1: the opening bell, all of the other teams immediately ganged
Speaker 1: up on Dexter Loomis and Joe Gacy. So there was
Speaker 1: a spot early on here where the Prophets attempted to
Speaker 1: backdrop Gasey onto a ladder that was leaning against the
Speaker 1: top rope in the center of the ring, but he
Speaker 1: missed the ladder and he rolled to the floor, and
Speaker 1: so montes Ford went outside. He threw him back into
Speaker 1: the ring and then he and Angelo Dawkins repeated the spot,
Speaker 1: and this time Gasey landed on the ladder and that
Speaker 1: got a pop from the crowd. The crowd had quite
Speaker 1: the reaction when they saw Ray Phoenix jump up on
Speaker 1: Androde's shoulders at one point and he almost I mean
Speaker 1: he got his hands on the titles like he was
Speaker 1: he didn't see a ladder. He was standing on this
Speaker 1: man's shoulders and almost was able to pull down the titles,
Speaker 1: but wasn't able to. He got close, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: able to do it. The street profits cut him off
Speaker 1: and Phoenix and Androde then delivered three amigos so tomaso champa.
Speaker 1: He tried to throw Montes forward into a table in
Speaker 1: the corner. Instead, Montes did his crazy flip dive over
Speaker 1: the ring post onto the pile of bodies on the
Speaker 1: floor outside. Johnny Gargano put Joe Gacy through a table
Speaker 1: with a DDT off the ropes. Dexter Loomis then hit
Speaker 1: this wild just fucking diving splash off the top rope
Speaker 1: onto Montes, who was laid out on a table on
Speaker 1: the floor outside. So he put him through the table
Speaker 1: Phoenix did a crazy top rope frog splash over the
Speaker 1: ring post to put Nathan Fraser through a table that
Speaker 1: he was laid across. Then Angelo Dawkins is like, well, shit,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be left out here, so he
Speaker 1: climbs to the top rope and he's got evil intentions.
Speaker 1: He's gonna do the same thing to Tamaso Champa. Champa
Speaker 1: is laying on a table outside, just accepting his fate
Speaker 1: right ready for whatever is about to come. Instead, Axiom
Speaker 1: cuts off Angelo Dawkins on the ropes, and Axiom then
Speaker 1: puts not just Angelo Dawkins but himself through that table
Speaker 1: down below, and thankfully for Tomaso Champa, he got up
Speaker 1: off the table just in time. So Shampa dives out
Speaker 1: of the way and Axiom and Dawkins come flying off
Speaker 1: with a Spanish fly and they come crashing through the table.
Speaker 1: This was the spot of the night right here, Like
Speaker 1: there's so much that could have gone wrong. And at
Speaker 1: first I thought that maybe Axium's leg, which I think
Speaker 1: did hit the barricade, but it like hit it in
Speaker 1: such a way where it's like, I hope he didn't
Speaker 1: break his leg. But they seem to be Okay, after
Speaker 1: the spot, I'm just, dude, I'm watching this. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm watching this, and I'm thinking somebody's going to get killed,
Speaker 1: because it was like boom, boom boom. It was these
Speaker 1: rapid fire spots. Everybody's doing dives and the ringside areas
Speaker 1: getting all cluttered up with bodies and debris, and you know,
Speaker 1: at that point you start worrying about like, I just
Speaker 1: hope nobody kills themselves. By the way, I don't know
Speaker 1: how many people notice this. They have those stupid branded
Speaker 1: slim gym tables. I don't know if they're all like this,
Speaker 1: but some of the tables they were stacking them on
Speaker 1: the outside of one point the street profits were they
Speaker 1: had holes drilled into the tables, so all they had
Speaker 1: to do was take one table and when they stack
Speaker 1: it on the other, it actually fits into the holes.
Speaker 1: Like they're making it very easy for these people. So
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever noticed that that they're actually
Speaker 1: drilling holes now into these tables so that you can
Speaker 1: very gently fit another table into the slim on the
Speaker 1: first one. So Candace lay runs out, of course, she's
Speaker 1: with Diy and she tries to climb the ladder, but
Speaker 1: so too does Beefab, who's with the street profits. She's like,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, so she runs down. She pulls
Speaker 1: Candace off. Bfab tries to climb, so then Nicky Cross,
Speaker 1: who was out there with the Wyatt six. Nicky Cross
Speaker 1: gets into the ring. She gave Beefab a back suplex
Speaker 1: off the ladder. Candas then went back to the ladder.
Speaker 1: She's bound and determined to climb this thing, and Johnny
Speaker 1: Gargano was holding it steady for her. But montez Ford
Speaker 1: comes over and he shoves Gargano into the ladder, which
Speaker 1: causes Missus Gargano to go flying off the ladder and
Speaker 1: she goes crashing through a ladder bridge outside the ring.
Speaker 1: And it was actually a hell of a bump that
Speaker 1: she took, and she, you know, took it like a champ.
Speaker 1: The ladder broke. I don't know what these fucking ladders
Speaker 1: are made of. It says like it painted would basically,
Speaker 1: these are the fucking wooden ladders here that they paint silver.
Speaker 1: But she went right through the ladder, and you know what,
Speaker 1: this was the second craziest, right if the Spanish fly
Speaker 1: was the craziest bump of the night. Then this was
Speaker 1: the second craziest one. And you know what, probably not
Speaker 1: even the craziest bump that Candace Lray has ever taken
Speaker 1: in WWE, probably, but in her career, not even the
Speaker 1: craziest bump that Candace has ever taken. So she'll she'll
Speaker 1: be fine. So the referees went over to go check
Speaker 1: on Candace, and Johnny is looking outside and he sees
Speaker 1: his wife is in distress, right, he doesn't even know
Speaker 1: if his wife. His wife is barely alive out there,
Speaker 1: but he's just like looking outside to make sure. I
Speaker 1: guess that she's moving in that she's breathing, and gives
Speaker 1: her thumbs up before turning his attention back to the match.
Speaker 1: He opted to continue the match without even going outside
Speaker 1: to check on his wife. He chose the titles over
Speaker 1: his own wife, Eric Rowan, who is not a legal
Speaker 1: competitor in this match. But I mean, I guess it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. None of these fucking people are Candace is not.
Speaker 1: BFAB is not. But there's no rules, right, so anybody
Speaker 1: could get involved here. He gets into the ring and
Speaker 1: attacks the street profits, but then they fight him off
Speaker 1: with chairs. They put him through a table, that was
Speaker 1: propped up in the corner with a shoulder tackle. Champa
Speaker 1: climbed the ladder and grabbed the harness. They have that
Speaker 1: harness that the titles hang for whatever it's called, that
Speaker 1: golden piece that the title bells hang from, and say
Speaker 1: he grabbed a hold of it. MotorCity machine Guns. Though,
Speaker 1: they get underneath the ladder and they pull the ladder
Speaker 1: away slowly. So now Shampa is hanging from the cable, right,
Speaker 1: He's just dangling there in the air, and Nathan Fraser
Speaker 1: climbs up on a ladder on the ladder which has
Speaker 1: now been moved away. But he climbs up on the
Speaker 1: ladder and he is getting ready to do a spear
Speaker 1: off the ladder. He's doing the edge and Jeff Hardy
Speaker 1: spot from WrestleMania x seven, or at least that was
Speaker 1: his intent. Champa, though, managed to use his legs to
Speaker 1: somehow pull himself up on the cable, so now he
Speaker 1: was hanging upside down, and Fraser missed him and he
Speaker 1: crashed and burned. And I'm just I'm looking at Tomaso
Speaker 1: Champan now I'm afraid of heights. I'm looking at Tomaso
Speaker 1: ch and so is Devon, by the way, I always
Speaker 1: get a kick out of it when Devon Dudley talks
Speaker 1: about all the TLC matches he was in and he's
Speaker 1: still to this day like deathly afraid of heights. But
Speaker 1: I'm watching Tomaso Champa, you know, just hanging there like that.
Speaker 1: I'd probably pass out if that were me. But to
Speaker 1: hang up there like that, upside down, like when he
Speaker 1: got his legs up there and he's basically hanging upside
Speaker 1: down like I would, I would shit myself. And the
Speaker 1: problem is if I'm hanging upside down like I would
Speaker 1: shit myself and it would come right back down on
Speaker 1: top of me, Like I feel, it would be a
Speaker 1: really bad situation if that would be hanging from that cable.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. So. Moments later, a few teams scrambled
Speaker 1: up separate ladders to grab the belts. Incomes Uncle Howdy
Speaker 1: and he knocks everybody down, and that includes pushing the
Speaker 1: ladder over that had Diy on it. And there goes
Speaker 1: Johnny Gargano and Tomasso Champo and they go flying out
Speaker 1: of the ring and through the stacked slim gym tables outside.
Speaker 1: So that was the end of diy. We did not
Speaker 1: see them again. Uncle Howdy bo Dallas whatever Michael Cole
Speaker 1: called him by both names, also not a legal competitor.
Speaker 1: In this match, he's climbing the ladder. Nathan Fraser races
Speaker 1: up the ladder. Uncle Howdy applies the mandible claw and
Speaker 1: he lets free your fall off to his doom. Here
Speaker 1: comes Androte. He does a sunset bomb that sends Uncle
Speaker 1: Howdy backwards, crashing onto a ladder bridge and so that's
Speaker 1: the end of Uncle Howdy. He rolls out to the floor. Eventually,
Speaker 1: Dexter Loomis and Joe Gasey hit their double team finish
Speaker 1: on Phoenix and Loomis. He kind of stood guard while
Speaker 1: Joe Gacy climbed the ladder and he pulled the titles down,
Speaker 1: and you could hear fans audibly booing and groaning. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like the entire stadium, but enough of them that
Speaker 1: you could you could pick up on it like they
Speaker 1: were disappointed. They were hoping somebody else was gonna win
Speaker 1: this match and we would have a title change. But
Speaker 1: you know, once he actually pulled the titles down, yeah,
Speaker 1: people gave polite applause and they cheered. So he ended
Speaker 1: up getting a nice reaction. This was pure insanity. This
Speaker 1: was pure insanity from start to finish. They work this
Speaker 1: match like twelve men who in most cases were less
Speaker 1: off the Wrestle Media Card this year. That's why they
Speaker 1: had to do a TLC match on TV I think
Speaker 1: the following week. I think it was right that Friday.
Speaker 1: That's why, because they had no room for them on
Speaker 1: the Wrestle Media card. Well, now they're on SummerSlam in
Speaker 1: a stadium with sixty thousand people, and their only goal
Speaker 1: now is to go out there and steal the show.
Speaker 1: And that's what it felt like. They were out there
Speaker 1: to do all these crazy dives and spots and really
Speaker 1: try to steal the show. There's not a lot of
Speaker 1: psychology to be found, you know, in a match like this,
Speaker 1: especially when you have six teams. If you have two
Speaker 1: teams or even three teams, it's a little bit easier,
Speaker 1: but when you have that many bodies out there, again,
Speaker 1: there's really not much in the way of story that
Speaker 1: you could tell. There's not a lot of selling that
Speaker 1: you can do. You're out there to do spots. You know,
Speaker 1: match like this is designed to be a spot fest,
Speaker 1: So if you're a fan of those types of matches,
Speaker 1: the spotfest matches, the big multiperson ladder matches. Then this
Speaker 1: is right up your alley, and as those types of
Speaker 1: matches go, I thought this was this was an excellent one,
Speaker 1: but that you kind of know going into this that
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna get. I'm glad they all got
Speaker 1: a chance to be on the show. They deserved it.
Speaker 1: The SmackDown Tag Team Division has been killing it now
Speaker 1: for months and they were overdue for a big pl match,
Speaker 1: Like at some point you have to put them on
Speaker 1: a major show. So I'm glad they were able to
Speaker 1: get almost every team. I mean, I think the only
Speaker 1: two teams that were missing were Los Garza, who were
Speaker 1: on SmackDown Friday and pretty Deadly, and I think Elton
Speaker 1: Prince is out hurt. Everybody else was accounted for in
Speaker 1: this match, but it was just one crazy, dangerous spot
Speaker 1: after another. They pulled it off, hopefully with minimal bumps
Speaker 1: and bruises and no injuries. I could just see them all.
Speaker 1: I want the scene on the next season of Unreal
Speaker 1: where they walk back through the curtain into the gorilla
Speaker 1: position and they're just like, there's like a big dish
Speaker 1: sitting there and it's like painkillers for everyone, and they
Speaker 1: just go like one by one, they just they grab
Speaker 1: a fucking fistfall as they walk back through the curtain.
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Speaker 1: now or a Saturday. I don't even know a fucking
Speaker 1: day of the week it is. There's been so many shows.
Speaker 1: That was last night, Sunday night, hanging out with me
Speaker 1: on a Sunday night for SummerSlam. As we get into
Speaker 1: this next match here, which was for the Women's Intercontinental Championship,
Speaker 1: it was Becky Lynch defending against Lyra Valkyria. This was
Speaker 1: no count out, no disqualification. Becky Lynch has a new
Speaker 1: theme song. I told you guys about this earlier today
Speaker 1: on SoundOff episode nine to twenty three. She has been
Speaker 1: teasing it on social media. There's been talk that she
Speaker 1: was getting a brand new song. It is by the
Speaker 1: pop punk band called The Wonder Years, also a fine
Speaker 1: television show back in the day. So she debuted her
Speaker 1: new music tonight, and from what I could hear of it,
Speaker 1: it sounds pretty badass. I'm waiting for the Spotify drop
Speaker 1: so that i can listen to it, you know, in
Speaker 1: proper form. Anything not Deaf Rebel is okay with me,
Speaker 1: so it gets a thumbs up from me. Now, Becky
Speaker 1: grabbed the kendo stick, and this was right at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the match, and she was shocked to see
Speaker 1: Lyra pull up with a crowbar. So Valkyrias smashed the
Speaker 1: kendo stick out of Becky's hand and tried to kill
Speaker 1: her with the crowbar, and Becky avoided it, and then
Speaker 1: she yelled at Lyra for trying to murder her with
Speaker 1: the crowbar. So after this, there was a funny spot
Speaker 1: where Valkyria tried tossing Becky into the barricade and instead
Speaker 1: shoved her into a cameraman who unsuspecting cameraman who was
Speaker 1: not expecting this to happen, and the cameraman acted like
Speaker 1: nothing happened and just walked to the other side of
Speaker 1: the barricade. So Valkyrias set up a table, and the
Speaker 1: crowd didn't even give a shit because we had just
Speaker 1: seen a bunch of tables in the match prior. Now,
Speaker 1: I'll get into this in my postmatch comments here, but
Speaker 1: nobody really cared. So Becky grabbed her from behind by
Speaker 1: wrapping a chain around Lyra's mouth. Becky shoved her into
Speaker 1: the steel steps and then attacked her repeatedly with a
Speaker 1: candow stick. The crowd sounded very bored by all of this.
Speaker 1: Becky used the kendo stick like a golf club, a
Speaker 1: little nod to her role and happy gilmore too. She
Speaker 1: continued the beat down. She used a steel chair, she
Speaker 1: used a toolbox. Becky then zip tied Lyra's hands together
Speaker 1: and attacked her with a wrench. This all sounds so ridiculous,
Speaker 1: like this is the antithesis of what I loved about
Speaker 1: all of the matches that these two women had previously,
Speaker 1: And this is what I was worried that this would
Speaker 1: degenerate into. We have kendo sticks, we have zip ties,
Speaker 1: we have wrenches, we have crowbars, we have all kinds
Speaker 1: of bullshit here. Becky followed with some exploders suplexes. Then
Speaker 1: she trapped Lyra hands first over the ring post and
Speaker 1: attacked her repeatedly with the kendo sticks. So, if you're
Speaker 1: looking for the visual here, this was taken right out
Speaker 1: of the I Quit match at Breaking Point in two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine between John Cena and Randy Jorton. And
Speaker 1: if you've never seen the match, you may have seen
Speaker 1: that image of seen it with his hands cuffed. I
Speaker 1: think it was handcuffs, not zip ties over the ring post, helpless,
Speaker 1: and Orton was just I mean blasting him with kendo
Speaker 1: stick shots to the ribs. So that's the spot that
Speaker 1: they did here, that's what they were going for here.
Speaker 1: Great match, by the way, if you've never seen it before,
Speaker 1: that I Quit match. Actually, if it's not the best,
Speaker 1: one of the best John Seen and Randy Orton matches
Speaker 1: they've ever had is that Breaking Point match. So Lyra
Speaker 1: managed to hit a belly to belly supplex even with
Speaker 1: her hands still tied together, so the landing did not
Speaker 1: look very fun for Becky Lynch. Valkyria fought back with
Speaker 1: a leaping drop kick off some chairs. Valkyria managed a
Speaker 1: moon salt off the middle rope with her hands still tied.
Speaker 1: She untied one of the turnbuckle pads. Becky, though, drove
Speaker 1: her into the ring post. So Valkyria then disappeared underneath
Speaker 1: the ring and when Becky went after her, Valkyria sprayed
Speaker 1: her with a fire extinguish her. So Lyra now is
Speaker 1: trying to use the fire extinguish her handle to break
Speaker 1: the zip tie. She's trying to free herself and she's
Speaker 1: having a bitch of a time, and the fans again
Speaker 1: are just very bored waiting for this woman to try
Speaker 1: to free herself. She couldn't get them off, so she
Speaker 1: crawls underneath the ring. She disappears. I would like to
Speaker 1: think that they have a person underneath the ring that's
Speaker 1: just hanging out under there. And Lyra goes underneath and
Speaker 1: is like, hey, I need your help, and he's like,
Speaker 1: oh sure, and he just cuts her loose. Because when
Speaker 1: she re emerged she was free. The zip ties were
Speaker 1: magically off, and she attacked Becky with a kendostick until
Speaker 1: it shattered. She dropped, kicked a chair into Becky's head,
Speaker 1: and then hit her nightwing finish off the second step
Speaker 1: of the ring steps onto the floor in the ring,
Speaker 1: Valkyrie had tried a corner charge. Becky, though moved and
Speaker 1: Lyra crashed into the exposed turnbuckle. Becky followed with a
Speaker 1: man handle slam onto two chairs for a close near fall.
Speaker 1: Becky trapped Lyra into a chair and then drove her
Speaker 1: into the announced desk and then back into the ring post.
Speaker 1: And so with Lyra still trapped in the chair was
Speaker 1: basically wrapped around her, Becky kind of leaped off the
Speaker 1: table and stomp the chair. So Becky was about to
Speaker 1: kill Lyra with the crowbar. This was it, This is
Speaker 1: going to be the kill shot. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Bailey appears from out of nowhere, out of the crowd.
Speaker 1: I guess Bailey is there. She stops her and Becky
Speaker 1: is trying to reason with Bailey and tries talking her
Speaker 1: into hitting Lyra. You know, you hit her, and Bailey
Speaker 1: couldn't bring herself to do it, so Becky tried to
Speaker 1: attack her with a steel chain. Bailey attacked Becky instead.
Speaker 1: Becky avoided a charge and Bailey she came charging in
Speaker 1: and Bailey flies over the barricade into the first row.
Speaker 1: Lynch tried using a slim gym table to get back
Speaker 1: up to her feet. She's kind of like sprawled on it,
Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, get herself vertical again. And
Speaker 1: this was great because they had such a tight camera
Speaker 1: shot that you couldn't see anything but Becky and the table,
Speaker 1: and so all of a sudden, Lyra Valkyria just comes
Speaker 1: flying into the shot with like a leaping leg drop.
Speaker 1: I guess off the apron. I assumed she didn't climb
Speaker 1: to the top, and so she dives off the apron
Speaker 1: and she puts Becky through the table with a flying
Speaker 1: leg drop. It's like a jump scare in a horror movie.
Speaker 1: So back in the ring, Becky slipped out of a
Speaker 1: night wing attempt. Valkyriea countered out of a manhandle slam
Speaker 1: with an arm drag. Becky is standing near the ropes.
Speaker 1: Bailey is now up on the apron and she takes
Speaker 1: a swing at Becky. Becky ducks and Bailey ends up
Speaker 1: hitting Lyra by accident, and Becky finally hits the man
Speaker 1: handle slam and she scores the pin to retain the
Speaker 1: Intercontinental title, which means that Lyra Valkyria can never again
Speaker 1: challenge for this championship so long as Becky Lynch has
Speaker 1: that title. Let me just say this, these two women,
Speaker 1: they worked hard, they did, they took some they took
Speaker 1: some pretty stiff bumps in this match, and they work
Speaker 1: their asses off. This just didn't work. This didn't work
Speaker 1: for me. First of all, this match went twenty five minutes.
Speaker 1: There was no reason for this match to go twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes. They gave these women almost ten minutes longer
Speaker 1: than Naomi, Rhea and EO got for the opening triple
Speaker 1: threat match. That is ridiculous. I'm sorry. A Women's World
Speaker 1: Championship triple threat gets fifteen or sixteen minutes. This one
Speaker 1: gets twenty five. So that was mistake number one. The
Speaker 1: other mistake they made here was this came right after
Speaker 1: the TLC match. Now, it was almost unavoidable because this
Speaker 1: was the night of gimmick matches. You had a street
Speaker 1: fight in the main event. Had this was basically a
Speaker 1: fucking street fight, no DQ, no count. Now, what would
Speaker 1: you call it now that you've watched this match? How
Speaker 1: is this not a street fight? They basically had two
Speaker 1: street fights. They had a cage match, they had a
Speaker 1: TLC match. The triple threat technically is no DQ. The
Speaker 1: only straight singles match of the entire card tonight was
Speaker 1: aj Styles in Dominic Mysterio. Every other match had some
Speaker 1: sort of gimmick or stipulation weapons galore tonight. So I
Speaker 1: don't know that there really was a good place on
Speaker 1: the card for this match, But to put this right
Speaker 1: after the TLC match, when we saw how many tables
Speaker 1: broken in that match, how many weapons were used chairs
Speaker 1: in that match, and then you coming, you do this
Speaker 1: and it's not nearly as exciting right as the car
Speaker 1: crash we all just saw on the previous match. So
Speaker 1: putting this on after the TLC match that was another mistake.
Speaker 1: But they just they did too much. They were trying
Speaker 1: to do all these different things. And I get the
Speaker 1: logic behind them wanting to do the zip tie stuff
Speaker 1: with Lyra, right, they wanted her to work from underneath
Speaker 1: and make the heroic come back and you know, put
Speaker 1: sympathy on Lyra Valcarrier for being handicapped and having to
Speaker 1: work without the use of her hands and all that.
Speaker 1: It didn't work. It didn't work in the way that
Speaker 1: they intended. My issue with this, the biggest one is
Speaker 1: I loved every match that these two women had coming
Speaker 1: into this show, going back to their NXT match two
Speaker 1: years ago. They always have excellent matches. The match they
Speaker 1: had at Money in the Bank was even better than
Speaker 1: the one they had at Backlash. Now you put them
Speaker 1: in the ring and you give it basically the street
Speaker 1: fight stipulation, and it's like every other fucking extreme rules
Speaker 1: match that we get in WWA. We got to use
Speaker 1: kendo sticks, we got to use wrenches, we got to
Speaker 1: use crowbars, we got to use zip ties. How can
Speaker 1: we use this? How can we do that? They got
Speaker 1: away from what makes this feud work. They got away
Speaker 1: from the chemistry that these two women have because they're
Speaker 1: really good wrestlers and they go out there and they've
Speaker 1: had really good wrestling matches, and that's not what tonight
Speaker 1: was about. Tonight was about everything but the wrestling. So
Speaker 1: it's no surprise to me having seen this, that I
Speaker 1: would rank this dead last of all the matches these
Speaker 1: two have had. I just did not like this match
Speaker 1: as much as I liked all their previous matches. And
Speaker 1: that's it's too bad, because they work really well together.
Speaker 1: But I just could not get into this. I thought
Speaker 1: that Bailey was gonna go heal. Instead they did the
Speaker 1: accidental spot where she hit Lyra by accident, So that
Speaker 1: continues the issues now with Bailey and Lyra. I guess
Speaker 1: that's what Lira will be doing since she can't challenge
Speaker 1: for the championship anymore. What else is she gonna do.
Speaker 1: She's gonna feud with Bailey now some more. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: Becky won, though, I really thought this was gonna be
Speaker 1: the payoff where Lyra gets that win back, wins the
Speaker 1: championship back, and maybe maybe they even move Becky. I
Speaker 1: really I still feel that way. I still feel SmackDown
Speaker 1: can really use Becky Lynch. Maybe they move somebody else,
Speaker 1: Maybe they move Rhea, maybe they move Eo. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe they call up a Jordan Grace to smack Down,
Speaker 1: because SmackDown really could use someone right now, someone more
Speaker 1: in that division. But yeah, I just I wish I
Speaker 1: could tell you that, man, this was as great as
Speaker 1: there were other matches, But I'd be a fucking liar.
Speaker 1: This went way too long and it was in the
Speaker 1: exact wrong spot on this show. They did these women
Speaker 1: no favors, and then from this, to prove my point,
Speaker 1: we went into a fucking cage match immediately after this.
Speaker 1: First though they showed Jelly Roll in the crowd, they
Speaker 1: showed Metro Boomen, who was wearing over his shoulder an
Speaker 1: old school WCW United States Championship replica. My man, I
Speaker 1: always liked that title. I liked that title a lot.
Speaker 1: And they showed Giants quarterback Russell Wilson with his kid
Speaker 1: in the crowd, and then it was time the steel
Speaker 1: cage match. This was the fifth cage match in Summer
Speaker 1: Sligh history, and if you can believe it, the first
Speaker 1: steel cage match in twenty four years. That's how far
Speaker 1: back you'd have to go for just a traditional steel
Speaker 1: cage match. Tonight it was Solo Soka defending the United
Speaker 1: States Championship against Jacob Fatu, and I was thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: they mentioned that this is the fifth one, and the
Speaker 1: four previous cage matches Ultimate Warrior and Rick Rude nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety Brett Hart and Owen Hart nineteen ninety four, Triple
Speaker 1: H and Mankind nineteen ninety seven, and the last one
Speaker 1: was two thousand and one Undertaker and Kin destroying DDP
Speaker 1: and Canyon. That was the last time we had a
Speaker 1: cage match on this show, not not helen a cell
Speaker 1: or elimination chamber or anything like that. So you can
Speaker 1: win this match by pinfall, submission, or escaping the cage.
Speaker 1: Michael Cole tried to put over Solo Socoa tried being
Speaker 1: the keyword here. He mentioned that Solo Socoa has not
Speaker 1: been pinned since losing to Roman Reigns on the Netflix debut. Right,
Speaker 1: that was the Was it tribal combat? I know it
Speaker 1: was for the ula fall. I don't remember if it
Speaker 1: was tribal combat. So he hasn't lost, or at least
Speaker 1: not a singles match since then. And I checked on
Speaker 1: this Solo Socoa has had something like three or four
Speaker 1: wins in fifteen matches so far this year. So no
Speaker 1: matter how hard they have, Michael Cole try on commentary,
Speaker 1: you will never be able to convince me that Solo
Speaker 1: Socoa is any kind of threat to be taken seriously
Speaker 1: on this show. I don't give a shit how hard
Speaker 1: you try. Look, I find him very entertain He's a
Speaker 1: funny guy. He can be entertaining. But you will not
Speaker 1: convince me that Solo Socoa is any kind of real
Speaker 1: threat to Jacob Fatu or most anybody else on this show.
Speaker 1: Solo used the cage as a weapon or early. Fatu
Speaker 1: fought back, and when Solo tried driving him into the
Speaker 1: cage again, Fatu no sold it. Jacob hit a running
Speaker 1: hip attack and consecutive moon salts only got a near
Speaker 1: fall out of it, and it didn't take long for
Speaker 1: the MFTs to make their way out. There really is
Speaker 1: nothing else to describe that these two did in this
Speaker 1: match that was of any real note. Before Solo's crew
Speaker 1: meandered their way down to the ring, we had j. C. Matteo,
Speaker 1: we had the great Tonga Loa, and we had Tallatanga.
Speaker 1: They make their way out and they're surrounding the ring.
Speaker 1: Now we hear Jimmy USO's music and they're bracing for
Speaker 1: his entrance. But he appears at ringside. He goes on
Speaker 1: the attack until Talatanga drives him into the cage and
Speaker 1: then tosses him over the announced desk. Now Fa Tu
Speaker 1: had the chance here to escape the cage. He could
Speaker 1: have won the United States Championship. He had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to do so. He tells the referee to close the
Speaker 1: door because it was all gas time. All he did
Speaker 1: here was prove that Solo Socoa was correct when he
Speaker 1: said all gas, no brains. He just proved him right,
Speaker 1: often not to win the match. FA two turned around
Speaker 1: and Solo hit him with a Samoan spike for a
Speaker 1: near fall. So they followed the zip ties in the
Speaker 1: previous match with handcuffs in this match, I was just like,
Speaker 1: what are we gonna have in the match after this?
Speaker 1: Perhaps we'll have some rope, maybe we'll have some duct tape,
Speaker 1: what else? What else can we tie up people with?
Speaker 1: So they they introduce handcuffs into the match. Tallatanga handcuffs
Speaker 1: Jacob fought to to the top part of the cage.
Speaker 1: Jac Matteo opened the door and it looks like Solo
Speaker 1: Soco is going to crawl out of the cave. Fatu
Speaker 1: manages to break free from the handcuffs. They showed a
Speaker 1: replay of it. I don't even I still don't even
Speaker 1: know what he did. He just basically went like this,
Speaker 1: that was it, the shittiest handcuffs ever made. And he
Speaker 1: jumps down and he stops Solo from escaping the cage.
Speaker 1: So Fatu smashes the door into j. C. Matteo, but
Speaker 1: Tallatanga smashes the door into Fatu's head and Solo Socoa
Speaker 1: then slips out the door and he very casually falls
Speaker 1: to the ground and wins. That's how he wins the
Speaker 1: cage match. Wasn't that? Basically the outcome of the cage
Speaker 1: match between Punk and Rollins and Madison Square Garden. A
Speaker 1: few months ago, Roman Reins came out right, he came
Speaker 1: back and he pulled Rollins out to the floor, Like,
Speaker 1: what is what these cage match finishes? I mean, at
Speaker 1: least there you have the return of Roman Reigns and
Speaker 1: people went nuts for it. This this was I mean,
Speaker 1: this was fucking awful. So he pulls him to the
Speaker 1: floor and he retains the US Championship. After the match
Speaker 1: is over, and after Solo and Tallatanga made their way
Speaker 1: up the ramp, Jimmy super Kick j C. Matteo and
Speaker 1: he threw him inside the cage with Fatu and Tongalo
Speaker 1: and Fatu looks up and I told you this was
Speaker 1: coming right. And when I did the preview and predictions,
Speaker 1: I said, you know that Jacob Fatu is going to
Speaker 1: go to the top of the cage. This was the
Speaker 1: entire reason for doing this. He's going to go to
Speaker 1: the top of the cage and he's going to do
Speaker 1: his mighty moon salt. The match is over, but he
Speaker 1: looks up and sure enough, he scales the cage and
Speaker 1: he hits a moon salt off the top of the
Speaker 1: cage onto both men and to be more accurate. Poor Tongaloa.
Speaker 1: Tongaloa took like ninety five percent of this. He got
Speaker 1: destroyed on the landing and he looked like he was
Speaker 1: out of it as he was laying on the mat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hated this. I hated this. It doesn't get any
Speaker 1: lazier than the finish they gave you here, the way
Speaker 1: they did it and everything and all the interference. Literally
Speaker 1: the only reason, the only reason that they broke out
Speaker 1: the cage for this was so that Jacob could do
Speaker 1: the spot off the top. And it wasn't even during
Speaker 1: the match, it was when the match was over, you
Speaker 1: had the MFTs, you had all the interference, Like there's
Speaker 1: there was literally no other point to this stupid match.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just I'm so over it with all the
Speaker 1: interference and bullshit in these in these cage matches and
Speaker 1: as cage matches go. My other issue with this, it
Speaker 1: was just a boring, terrible match. Jacob. I love Jacob,
Speaker 1: Jacob is great. Jacob did what he could. The way
Speaker 1: this match was laid out and what they did here
Speaker 1: and with all the interference, it just made for an
Speaker 1: awful match. The the mft's are such a laughably bad
Speaker 1: faction that if it wasn't so boring, it might be funny,
Speaker 1: but it's really no laughing matter. Like it's bad, it's
Speaker 1: really bad. I don't really have anything else to say
Speaker 1: about this. I think all of this is just so
Speaker 1: played out, and I hope that sooner rather than later,
Speaker 1: Jacob can be moved into something completely different and not
Speaker 1: related to the bloodline. Like, I'm just over all of
Speaker 1: these people, whether it's Jimmy or Solo or Jacob, and
Speaker 1: it all kind of revolves around the bloodline. It all
Speaker 1: revolves around the family. Right. They've milked that cow so
Speaker 1: much over the last five years. There's a whole universe
Speaker 1: out there, right, there's a whole WWE universe that these
Speaker 1: guys could kind of branch out in. And Jacob in particular,
Speaker 1: I await the day that he can move on to
Speaker 1: something else. It's not that he's doing anything to help
Speaker 1: lift this up. It's that him being involved in this.
Speaker 1: The longer this goes dragging him down. I hope that
Speaker 1: changes very soon. Whether he doesn't have to win the
Speaker 1: US title, you know what, let's Solo have it. There's
Speaker 1: bigger things in Jacob's future than the US title. We
Speaker 1: got Aj Styles one on one with Dominic Mysterio for
Speaker 1: the Intercontinental Championship. The announcers noted that it's been twenty
Speaker 1: years since the custody of Dominic ladder match at SummerSlam
Speaker 1: between Eddie Guerrero and Raymistereo. So Dom came out first
Speaker 1: and then it was AJ's turn. Aj Styles comes out
Speaker 1: in a lowrider and his son, one of his sons,
Speaker 1: is riding Shotgun in the seat next to him. Aj
Speaker 1: comes out. He's wearing old Eddie Garrero Latino Heat inspired gear.
Speaker 1: I think they may have mentioned that it might have
Speaker 1: been the same style gear he wore at SummerSlam twenty
Speaker 1: years ago, but it was definitely gear in, you know,
Speaker 1: the kind of the vein of what Eddie would wear
Speaker 1: back in the day. Don was in control until Aj
Speaker 1: hit a tornado. DDT. Styles held control until Dom ducked
Speaker 1: a phenomenal forearm hit a Mitchiinoku driver. Stiles countered the
Speaker 1: last supplex of the three amigos from Dom into the brainbuster.
Speaker 1: Stiles went for a frog splash. Dom got the knees up.
Speaker 1: Dom hit a six one nine. He went for a splash.
Speaker 1: AJ caught him an applied to calf crusher and dom
Speaker 1: got the rope brake. So Dominic ends up removing one
Speaker 1: of the turnbuckle pads to distract the referee. As the
Speaker 1: referee is fixing the pad, Dominic grabs a chair and
Speaker 1: he's going to do the old Eddie Guerrero spot where
Speaker 1: he smashes the mat and then he tosses the chair
Speaker 1: to Aj and he drops to the mat and that's
Speaker 1: what he does. But the referee was still busy fixing
Speaker 1: the pad. Now Aj is standing there with the chair
Speaker 1: and he's looking at the chair, and so what he
Speaker 1: decides to do is he wraps the chair around his
Speaker 1: own head and he acts like he was he's on
Speaker 1: the ground and he's acting like he's dying. He's like
Speaker 1: twitching around a little He's either like a little twitch
Speaker 1: a little bit there. So the crowd enjoyed this. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed this too. I had one issue with this though.
Speaker 1: It made Aj Styles look like a geek because if
Speaker 1: the referee turns around, which he did, the referee, if
Speaker 1: he calls for a disqualification, Aj doesn't win the championship,
Speaker 1: like he almost screwed himself out of the Intercontinental title.
Speaker 1: But the referee did not call for the disqualification. The
Speaker 1: match continued because the referee didn't know who the guilty
Speaker 1: party was, so Styles applied to calf crusher Dom's boot,
Speaker 1: though slipped off in the process. This was the spot
Speaker 1: from WrestleMania twenty with Kurt Angle and Eddie Guerrero, and
Speaker 1: when they showed replays later on, it showed that right
Speaker 1: before this, Dom had I think unzipped or like loosened
Speaker 1: the boot in some way on purpose, so the referee
Speaker 1: almost got bumped, and while he was still kind of
Speaker 1: distracted from the near bump, Dominic blasted Aj in the
Speaker 1: head with the boot and then he followed with the
Speaker 1: frog splash for the win to retain the championship. This
Speaker 1: was one of the better matches of the night, and
Speaker 1: I think it was a very clever spot. I liked
Speaker 1: that they showed the replay of Dom loosening the boot,
Speaker 1: so I did like that, and also it sets up
Speaker 1: a rematch I would guess in Paris between these two
Speaker 1: look if ever, there was a place for AJ to
Speaker 1: win that championship. Remember the last time AJ was in
Speaker 1: Paris last year with Cody Rhoads and Leon France and
Speaker 1: the reaction that he got, I mean, the reactions to
Speaker 1: that entire match. So now they're going back to France.
Speaker 1: You got to get aj on the show. If you
Speaker 1: were going to do a title change, it would feel
Speaker 1: like that would be an appropriate place to do it.
Speaker 1: So I hope they do, but I'm like, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at this, I'm like, holy shit, with these fucking finishes,
Speaker 1: Naomi and the opener, the Heel goes over the Wyatt six,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck they're supposed to be.
Speaker 1: But they retain their titles up and down the line.
Speaker 1: Becky retains, Solo retains, Dominic retains, And you talk about
Speaker 1: a night of depressing finishes here, this was not a
Speaker 1: This was not a very uh you know, kind of
Speaker 1: happy happy night here. And it's one thing for the
Speaker 1: Heels to go over. But like some of these finishes,
Speaker 1: especially the cage match, I'm like, this is fucking the
Speaker 1: lame as shit. I'm like, who the hell booked all
Speaker 1: these finishes like this on this show? What is going
Speaker 1: on here? So after this, they introduced I want to
Speaker 1: I want to tell you exactly how they introduced her.
Speaker 1: They introduced w W E Icon Stephanie McMahon good Lord.
Speaker 1: So she was there to announce tonight's attendance sixty thousand,
Speaker 1: five hundred and sixty one, which when you combine it
Speaker 1: with the fifty three thousand plus that were supposedly there
Speaker 1: last night for Night one, means that it is a
Speaker 1: two night total of one hundred and thirteen thousand, seven
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two fans. As I said earlier, if
Speaker 1: you were wondering two night shows, they ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's only a matter of time before we
Speaker 1: get two night Royal Rumbles. It's coming. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: one rumble on one night, you're gonna get the other
Speaker 1: rumble on the other. It won't be next year, but
Speaker 1: I think starting in twenty twenty seven, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: you're gonna get. And then it was main event time
Speaker 1: with John Cena defending the WWE Championship against the King
Speaker 1: of the Ring. Didn't work out for the Queen of
Speaker 1: the Ring last night, but now it was the King
Speaker 1: of the Ring Cody Rhodes, and this was a street
Speaker 1: fight pinfall or submission only, that's the only way to
Speaker 1: win this match. Cody entered after they played some portions
Speaker 1: of an old Dusty Rhodes promo from WCW, and I
Speaker 1: believe they may have spliced. People were wondering, like, oh,
Speaker 1: did they AI Dusty? They didn't AI Dusty. I think
Speaker 1: even Biggie said this when the show was over on
Speaker 1: the post show. It wasn't AI. What they did was
Speaker 1: they took different clips of Dusty promos and they kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, pieced them together, but in particular and this
Speaker 1: is actually one of my favorite Dusty promos. It's just
Speaker 1: it's a tremendous promo from WCW. The view never changes.
Speaker 1: The view never changes. Baby. There's a great segment I
Speaker 1: want to say. It was on WCW Saturday Night. It's
Speaker 1: like a ninety four where Dusty reunited with his son Dustin.
Speaker 1: I think he needed him to be as either Dustin
Speaker 1: needed him to be his tag team partner or Dusty
Speaker 1: wanted Dustin to be his tag team partner, and he
Speaker 1: just they're in the ring together and he's cutting this
Speaker 1: promo and it gets very emotional and they hug and
Speaker 1: everybody cheat. It's such a great segment. But yeah, the
Speaker 1: view never changes, so you kind of see it. It's
Speaker 1: written on the screens. And you hear Dusty's voice, and
Speaker 1: then Cody rises up through this elevator platform in the
Speaker 1: stage and he's wearing a gold version of the skull
Speaker 1: mask that he wore at WrestleMania. So this was awesome. Like,
Speaker 1: as far as entrances go, this was awesome. So John
Speaker 1: Cena entered next. Now, remember what happened on Friday, right,
Speaker 1: Sina said, I want to thank you for waking my
Speaker 1: ass up and realizing the error of my ways. And basically,
Speaker 1: the old John Cena is back. And so you would
Speaker 1: think that we would get the old John Cena entrance here.
Speaker 1: At first, the screens were all black and it had
Speaker 1: the very basic light of white lettering that just said
Speaker 1: John Cena. But once the song kicked in, we got
Speaker 1: the bright cut, we got the Scena logo. Scena comes out,
Speaker 1: he's got the belt front facing right the right way.
Speaker 1: He's going nuts. He's talking to stew the cameraman, and
Speaker 1: I'm still not convinced. I'm watching this, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: this just feels something feels off here. I'm not convinced
Speaker 1: that this man is back to being a babyface just yet.
Speaker 1: But he comes down to the ring and he does
Speaker 1: his sprint down to the ring, he doesn't do the
Speaker 1: slow walk, and the fans are going nuts, and Cody
Speaker 1: got a very mixed reaction, more heavily boozed than cheers
Speaker 1: when they did the inn ring introductions. When Alicia Taylor
Speaker 1: did the introduction for John Cena, everybody went nuts and
Speaker 1: he just couldn't help himself but smirk when she called
Speaker 1: him the greatest of all time. Michael Cole actually said
Speaker 1: that Cody and John Cena were two of the final
Speaker 1: three in the Royal Rumble, and I'm sitting here and
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, I don't believe that's the case. I
Speaker 1: have no idea what he's talking about. In fact, Cody
Speaker 1: Rhodes wasn't even in the Royal Rumble this year, so
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck Michael Cole was talking about.
Speaker 1: But they were definitely not the final two or two
Speaker 1: of the final three in the Rumble. The final three
Speaker 1: in the Rumble this year was Sena, Jay Usso, and
Speaker 1: Logan Paul. I believe right, Yeah, Cody wrestled Kevin Owens.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what Michael Cole was talking about.
Speaker 1: So Sena hugged Cody and then the slugfest began, and
Speaker 1: you know, coming into this match, my expectations were very
Speaker 1: low because, as I said many times, that WrestleMania made
Speaker 1: event this year on Night two was a huge disappointment.
Speaker 1: And Sina went in their Backlash with Randy Orton and
Speaker 1: they had a very good match. Sina went in there
Speaker 1: at Night of Champions with Cmpunk and they had a
Speaker 1: very good match with the right people. I feel like
Speaker 1: they can bring some thing out of him, but he
Speaker 1: and Cody and just the way the match was laid out, whatever,
Speaker 1: it was just that mass shit the bed. As far
Speaker 1: as WrestleMania made events go, John Cena has a ceiling
Speaker 1: for what he is able to physically give. At this
Speaker 1: point in his career. He just physically can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: That's why he's retiring. Like he has said this himself,
Speaker 1: I cannot do this anymore. So I kept my expectations
Speaker 1: very low for this. And what we saw here was
Speaker 1: it wasn't just the return of the old John Cena character,
Speaker 1: Like we got flashes in this match of the old
Speaker 1: John Cena. So they start slugging it out, they end
Speaker 1: up outside. Sena got sent into the Steel Steps came back.
Speaker 1: Sena walked over to Tyrese Haliburton in the front row.
Speaker 1: He did the you can't see me gesture, and he
Speaker 1: grabbed one of Halliburton's crutches and he used it as
Speaker 1: a weapon on Cody. Cody was getting noticeable loose here
Speaker 1: because people were very happy to see, you know, baby
Speaker 1: face John Cena back. So in the ring, Sena lifted
Speaker 1: the ring steps over his head and he threw them
Speaker 1: at Cody and he hit him with him. So both
Speaker 1: men went to ringside. They came back in with chairs.
Speaker 1: They slammed the chairs together and then both men dropped them.
Speaker 1: Cody kicked one chair to the floor and he picked
Speaker 1: up the other and he slammed it across seen his back.
Speaker 1: Cody wedged the chair in the corner. Seena reversed a whip.
Speaker 1: He sent Cody crashing into the chair. Seen it. Put
Speaker 1: Cody down with a shoulder block, and then another one
Speaker 1: slammed him down to the mat. Then came the five
Speaker 1: knuckle shuffle. So we're going to old school here. So
Speaker 1: the five knuckle shuffle connects and Seena hoists up Cody,
Speaker 1: who slips out, clothes lines him. Cody threw some punches.
Speaker 1: He threw a bionic elbow. People are booing this. He
Speaker 1: connects with a Cody cutter that led to a near fall.
Speaker 1: Then Scena came back with an attitude adjustment. Cody kicks out.
Speaker 1: Cody came back with a moon salt off the top,
Speaker 1: only for a near fall. Cody drops Sena on his
Speaker 1: head at this point with a pile driver. Now we're
Speaker 1: going back to like punk and scene to twenty thirteen. Here,
Speaker 1: you don't get to see this very often. Hits him
Speaker 1: with a pile driver, only got a two count out
Speaker 1: of it. So now the referee in this match, Dan Engler,
Speaker 1: is checking on Sena and Cody is backing off and
Speaker 1: because he's telling him go check on him, and Cody
Speaker 1: is looking very frustrated. So eventually he goes over to
Speaker 1: grabs Sena to pick him up. Sina, they'll hoist him up,
Speaker 1: and he drops him with another AA and now we
Speaker 1: have a double down. Okay, both men are flat on
Speaker 1: their back. Once they got back up, Cody hit a
Speaker 1: pop up power bomb. Scena, though transitioned into an STF
Speaker 1: and Cody dragged himself to the ropes. But there's no
Speaker 1: rope brakes, right, what are you gonna do. You're gonna
Speaker 1: call for the disqualification. There's no rope breaks in a
Speaker 1: street fight. And Cody keeps crawling to the point where
Speaker 1: Sena his throat is up against the rope and he's choking,
Speaker 1: and so finally he releases the hold. At this point,
Speaker 1: Cody reversed outside the ring. Cody reversed him over the
Speaker 1: barricade into the timekeeper's area. Seena came back with a
Speaker 1: microphone shot to the head, made a great sound. And
Speaker 1: then John Cena hits a fucking code red on the
Speaker 1: floor that we've seen like Dustin Rhodes, you know, turn
Speaker 1: back the hands of time, and he's always doing moves
Speaker 1: like that and all of his matches. Now, it's been
Speaker 1: a while since I've seen John Cena hit a code red,
Speaker 1: and it reminds me. You know, we went through this
Speaker 1: phase many many years ago where John Sena was trying
Speaker 1: to show people that hey, I know more than just
Speaker 1: five moves of doom. Right, he would bust out this
Speaker 1: new move that we had never seen him do before.
Speaker 1: He was doing standing her at caranas and people were
Speaker 1: like losing their minds. And then for a while there
Speaker 1: he was doing a springboard cutter, right, that look I
Speaker 1: think awful. I think that was what the move was.
Speaker 1: But it was like, all right, you know what, at
Speaker 1: least he's trying new things. So now here at his
Speaker 1: retirement year, we have John Seena trying something a little
Speaker 1: bit different and hitting a Code red on the floor
Speaker 1: and it looked great and he had a big smile
Speaker 1: on his face after he hit it. The amazing Red
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Speaker 1: Cody up on the English announced desk and he delivered
Speaker 1: an attitude adjustment to him through this Spanish announced table.
Speaker 1: And yes, the Spanish announced table did infect break. As
Speaker 1: indestructible as these tables are, it did break. So Sena
Speaker 1: dragged Cody back into the ring. Cody, though, ended up
Speaker 1: getting him in position and he hit crossroads and he
Speaker 1: nearly had him, but Sena kicked out it too. Cody
Speaker 1: then brought him to the ropes. He attempted a superplex.
Speaker 1: Sena those shoved him back to the mat and seen it.
Speaker 1: Came flying off with one of his old moves. And
Speaker 1: again I don't know that we've seen him do this
Speaker 1: since he came back. He does the leaping leg drop,
Speaker 1: the leaping leg slice off the top rope, so he
Speaker 1: connects on that he goes flying through the air right
Speaker 1: to the back of Cody's neck and then another attitude
Speaker 1: adjustment follows. Scena covers, Cody kicks out. That's something else
Speaker 1: I was expecting in this match. I knew we were
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of finisher spam and a lot
Speaker 1: of kickouts. That's something that has peppered most of the
Speaker 1: John Cena matches in this I mean, Pepper's a lot
Speaker 1: of other matches in wrestling today too, but Sina more
Speaker 1: than most, relies a lot on that. Like when him
Speaker 1: and rock wrestled, especially their rematch of WrestleMania at MetLife.
Speaker 1: That's all that match was. That's why I fucking hate
Speaker 1: that match. That match degenerated into nothing but attitude adjustment
Speaker 1: rock Bottom rock Bottom, attitude adjustment, attitude, like over and
Speaker 1: over and over, where it's like this is like what
Speaker 1: is this? So you do ten to see a lot
Speaker 1: of that in the Scena matches, but it worked here.
Speaker 1: You know again, people genuinely wanted to see Sina win
Speaker 1: because they were happy to see him back as a babyface.
Speaker 1: I was happy because midway through this match, I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: they would have to severely fuck this finish shop for
Speaker 1: this to not be better than their WrestleMania match. Like
Speaker 1: midway through, I already said this is ten times the
Speaker 1: match that they had a WrestleMania. It had already exceeded
Speaker 1: the match they had a WRESTLEMANI Sina went under the
Speaker 1: ring and he pulls out a slim gym table and
Speaker 1: he slides it inside. He sets the table up, he
Speaker 1: measures Cody for another attitude adjustment. Cody wisely pushes the
Speaker 1: table over and then he drops Sena with the DDT.
Speaker 1: Sina then propped up the table in one of the corners,
Speaker 1: but they ended up outside. Cody tossed him over the barricade,
Speaker 1: and now they're fighting deep into the crowd. Here it
Speaker 1: met life a grenade. Uh, it's a street fight. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's legal. Nobody said you can't do it. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say garbage. I don't know why that auto corrected
Speaker 1: to fucking grenade. Actually I like that idea. Better forget
Speaker 1: forget the garbage. Can Uh. Cody tossed a grenade, yes
Speaker 1: at John Cena. Scena caught it though and just tossed
Speaker 1: it aside. So they fought further in the crowd. No less,
Speaker 1: how awful is that? I mean, it's one thing to
Speaker 1: throw a grenade at somebody, but in the middle of
Speaker 1: the crowd here at MetLife Stadium, that would have been awful.
Speaker 1: That would have been terrible, fucking bodies everywhere. So they
Speaker 1: fight further into the crowd. Sena hits him with a
Speaker 1: guardrail and then a second time hits him with the guardrail.
Speaker 1: Scena then props the guardrail, the piece of guardrail up
Speaker 1: against a metal barrier, and Cody ends up suplexing Sena
Speaker 1: onto the steel. So now both met are down. Then
Speaker 1: at this point they fight underneath the stage. Right there's
Speaker 1: some curtains and they go underneath the stage and we
Speaker 1: can't see them now, and they're missing for about probably
Speaker 1: twenty seconds, right twenty thirty seconds, they just disappear. We
Speaker 1: don't know where they are. All of a sudden, that
Speaker 1: little elevator lift right that Cody used for his entrance,
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the stage, you see the
Speaker 1: outline for the door. All of a sudden it starts
Speaker 1: to rise back up, and there's smoke coming out. And
Speaker 1: as it's through the smoke in the fog. As it's
Speaker 1: rising back up, you see John Cena standing there and
Speaker 1: he's got Cody's lifeless body basically on his shoulders as
Speaker 1: he emerges. Scena then dumps him down hard on the
Speaker 1: ramp with an attitude adjustment. So Cody is laying there motionless,
Speaker 1: and Scena thought about dragging him, but it's a long
Speaker 1: way back down to the ring, so he opts not
Speaker 1: to do that, and instead he lifts Cody back up
Speaker 1: onto his shoulders. He walks with him back down to
Speaker 1: the ring. Once they get back inside, though, Cody throws
Speaker 1: Scena through the table that was propped up earlier in
Speaker 1: the corner. Then he picks him up and he hits
Speaker 1: another crossroads and he hooks the leg and Seena kicks out,
Speaker 1: and everybody goes nuts for this. So Sena lowbridges Cody
Speaker 1: out to the floor, but then Cody grabs a chair
Speaker 1: and he blasts Sena right in the head with it
Speaker 1: when he was over by the ropes. Cody then starts loose.
Speaker 1: He looks over like he's desperate, right, And he looks
Speaker 1: over and he walks over to the bottom rope and
Speaker 1: he starts to loosen the turnbuckle beam so that metal
Speaker 1: beam that connects from the post into the rope. He's
Speaker 1: loosening it, loosening it, and so the bottom rope falls
Speaker 1: off and he gets back into the ring and he
Speaker 1: grabs a hold of that steel beam. It still has
Speaker 1: the ring rope attached to it, and he nails Seena
Speaker 1: in the head with it, and the fans are booing.
Speaker 1: They're booing Cody Rhodes, and they really were making you
Speaker 1: think that maybe they are going to turn Cody. Maybe
Speaker 1: Cody is going to go heal tonight. So they're booing him.
Speaker 1: Cody tells him to get up. Sena is just laying there,
Speaker 1: but when he gets back up, Cody hits him again,
Speaker 1: and again the fans boo. So Cody is begging the referees,
Speaker 1: begging Dan Engler just check on him, you know, go
Speaker 1: check on them. Maybe he's done. Go go check on
Speaker 1: this guy, right like he's having pity on him. So
Speaker 1: when Sena gets up, Cody goes for a third shot
Speaker 1: with the beam. Sena, though, got to drop toe hold
Speaker 1: and he used the bottom rope to choke Sena in
Speaker 1: an STF. So now we're kind of going back to
Speaker 1: the Royal Rumble right in two thousand and seven, when
Speaker 1: John Sena had the last man Standing match with Umaga. Now,
Speaker 1: this was not exactly the same. I mean, when John
Speaker 1: Cena was choking Umaga with the bottom rope at the
Speaker 1: Royal Rumble, Umaga legitimately passed out at the end of
Speaker 1: that match. Sena did not realize the force with which
Speaker 1: he was pulling back on that rope and he couldn't breathe,
Speaker 1: and he passed out legit because and Sena back then,
Speaker 1: even the STFs, when he was doing the STFU, Sena
Speaker 1: would wrench back on that hold. I think Edge had
Speaker 1: this issue in their TLC match in two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: where after a while they had to talk to Sena
Speaker 1: and say, look, you're you're fucking killing these guys like
Speaker 1: they can't breathe, Like you got to loosen it up.
Speaker 1: And the problem is he loosened it up so much
Speaker 1: that for the rest of his career, his STFs looked
Speaker 1: like shit. Like even Steve Austin would call him out
Speaker 1: for it and say, hey, tighten your shit up, kid,
Speaker 1: but he never did. It always looked like crap. It's
Speaker 1: like he goes from one extreme to the other. So
Speaker 1: he wasn't really wrenching back too hard on Cody here,
Speaker 1: but this was kind of a callback, I think, to
Speaker 1: what you know, intentionally or otherwise. This was kind of
Speaker 1: a callback to that spot from the rumble. Cody quickly
Speaker 1: reversed that of it. He used the rope almost in
Speaker 1: like an Anacon device. Seen it quickly worked back up
Speaker 1: to his feet, hits an attitude adjustment, but no, no crossroads.
Speaker 1: But he holds on a second crossroads. And then Cody
Speaker 1: holds on yet again and hits a third crossroads, and
Speaker 1: you're thinking, that's it. He just hit his finish three times.
Speaker 1: That's how he beat Roman Reigns last year at WrestleMania
Speaker 1: with the trifecta covers John Cena. John Cena kicks out,
Speaker 1: and now the fans are going crazy. They can't believe it.
Speaker 1: Cody can't believe it. The fans actually begin chanting super Sena.
Speaker 1: This is a chant that would have been unimaginable fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago. Okay, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years ago. They are
Speaker 1: chanting for Supersina. They hated Supersena back then. Now they're
Speaker 1: chanting for it. Cody goes outside. The podium is right
Speaker 1: there with the title sitting on it, and he grabs
Speaker 1: the WWE championship brings it back inside with him. Cody
Speaker 1: was not about to flint shift or what happened to
Speaker 1: him at WrestleMania, because he flinched and he got fucked
Speaker 1: and he lost his title. That's when Sena kicked him
Speaker 1: in the dick and hit him in the head with
Speaker 1: the belt. And he's not gonna let that happen again.
Speaker 1: He's going to give John Cena a taste of his
Speaker 1: own medicine. So he's in the ring and he has
Speaker 1: the championship and he goes to hit Sena with it Sina,
Speaker 1: though instead hits an attitude adjustment, and then he hits
Speaker 1: another attitude adjustment, and then he picks up the title
Speaker 1: like he's gonna use it, which is what he's been
Speaker 1: doing this entire run, and he throws it down because
Speaker 1: now he's good guy John Cena again, right, So he
Speaker 1: throws the title down. He's not going to use it.
Speaker 1: He places Cody on the top rope and he climbs
Speaker 1: up and he gets Cody on his shoulders and he
Speaker 1: delivers an avalanche attitude adjustment all the way from the
Speaker 1: top covers him and Cody kicks out everybody who's losing
Speaker 1: their minds. Dan by the way, Dan Engler, he was
Speaker 1: going for those old Earl Hebner counts here. He was
Speaker 1: taking his sweet time with these three counts. He's going
Speaker 1: the dramatic kind of slow counts that Early used to do.
Speaker 1: He was doing that here for the added dramatic effect.
Speaker 1: Seena goes back outside and he pulls out another slim
Speaker 1: Gym branded table and he puts it inside the ring
Speaker 1: and he sets it up and again he places Cody
Speaker 1: on top and he climbs up after him for another
Speaker 1: avalanche attitude adjustment. This time he's going to put him
Speaker 1: to the table with it. This time, though, Cody elbows
Speaker 1: out of it, lands on his feet. But Cody runs
Speaker 1: the ropes, grabs a hold of Sena, and he delivers
Speaker 1: a Cody cutter off the top rope through the table.
Speaker 1: He puts John Cena through the table. This I didn't
Speaker 1: like because Sena immediately gets back up to his feet.
Speaker 1: Not that he like, no sold it, but I feel
Speaker 1: like he popped up from it just way too quickly.
Speaker 1: And now he's kind of hanging on the middle rope
Speaker 1: and again he's selling it. But it's like if you
Speaker 1: put somebody through a table with an avalanche cutter, like
Speaker 1: they should be laying there for a while. I just
Speaker 1: thought he popped up too soon. But he's hanging across
Speaker 1: the middle rope. And the reason they did this is
Speaker 1: because in the background they kind of focus. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Cody in the background does the salute, one
Speaker 1: last John Cena salute you see in the background, and
Speaker 1: then he hits one final crossroads and he covers him,
Speaker 1: and finally Cody Rhodes gets the three count, he pins
Speaker 1: John Cena, and he regains the WWE Championship. He is
Speaker 1: now a two time champion. And the crowd did not boo.
Speaker 1: So for all the booing that Cody Rhod's got in
Speaker 1: this match, when the match was over, they cheered Cody.
Speaker 1: It's not like he got booted out of the building.
Speaker 1: It's like Rock and Hogan at Wrestle Media eighteen right.
Speaker 1: For the most part, Rock was booed, but pretty much
Speaker 1: the entire match when Rock won, you could hear some
Speaker 1: boozs mixed in, but all of a sudden, he got
Speaker 1: a lot of cheers too. It's not like he got
Speaker 1: boot out of the SkyDome. It's like, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: you know, begrudgingly. We respect the guy, you know that.
Speaker 1: That was a great match, So that was kind of
Speaker 1: the reaction here. And with the title sitting in the
Speaker 1: middle of the ring. After the match, Sena goes and
Speaker 1: picks it up and he hands it to Cody. It's like,
Speaker 1: what's he gonna do, right, you know, A whack him
Speaker 1: with it. I didn't think he would, but you never know.
Speaker 1: I was just I have PTSD from WrestleMania, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: watching this and in the back of my mind, it's
Speaker 1: like the voices in my head. All I hear is Fien, Fien, Fien,
Speaker 1: and I'm waiting. I'm just waiting. I'm just waiting. Thank god,
Speaker 1: there was no fiend and he hands the belt over
Speaker 1: to Cody Rhodes and he grabs Cody and he whispers
Speaker 1: something in his ear. For a good like twenty seconds,
Speaker 1: he's talking his ear off and we couldn't hear what
Speaker 1: he said. And then he raised Cody's arm and they
Speaker 1: shot off a shitload of pyro in the background for
Speaker 1: a good fifteen twenty seconds, and the two men embraced again.
Speaker 1: Cody left the ring to Sina. He's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: leave the ring to this guy here, and they cut
Speaker 1: off Cody's music, so it was just the crowd noise,
Speaker 1: and the fans gave Sena a standing ovation. They started
Speaker 1: chanting thank you, Sena, and he got quiet, and I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is not how it's going to end. I would
Speaker 1: have been perfectly content with this being the end of
Speaker 1: the show and no music. Have the camera follow Scena
Speaker 1: back up the ramp and he just soaks up the cheers.
Speaker 1: It does one final salute. This is his last Summer Slim.
Speaker 1: Like John, Cena has had some classic matches at this show.
Speaker 1: He's had great matches at Summerslim against Seth Rollins and
Speaker 1: against CM Punk and against brock Lesnar and against aj Styles,
Speaker 1: and so the fact that this is his last one
Speaker 1: and now he's back to being a babyface, I feel
Speaker 1: like that would have been a suitable ending. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had the big shock finish that they loved
Speaker 1: to go for, but I would have been okay with that.
Speaker 1: As great as this match was, if that's where the
Speaker 1: show would have ended, just kind of following Sena up
Speaker 1: the aisle, I would have been okay with it. But
Speaker 1: it got real quiet, and I'm like something's about to
Speaker 1: go down, like the rock is coming out or something.
Speaker 1: And it was not the music that I was expecting,
Speaker 1: but we hear Brocklesner's music. Not the first time that
Speaker 1: brock Lesner has made a dramatic return at SummerSlam. Right
Speaker 1: three years ago, after John Cena lost to Roman Reigns,
Speaker 1: same exact thing happened, and just like they went nuts
Speaker 1: back then, they went nuts for this as well. Michael
Speaker 1: Cole is just going over the top on commentary. He's like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, it's the Beast. It's the Beast. And Brock
Speaker 1: walks out and he's the bearded man, right, He's got
Speaker 1: the beard. He's wearing a black cowboy hat, he's got
Speaker 1: a black leather vest on or leather vest, black T shirt, jeans,
Speaker 1: and he begins to walk to the ring and scene
Speaker 1: is in the ring and he has this stunned look
Speaker 1: on his face, and it just brought me back to
Speaker 1: that night. When Brock came back to the company in
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, it was the exact same thing. Scene is
Speaker 1: in the ring. I think he was waiting for the rock.
Speaker 1: I think he was waiting for the rock to come out,
Speaker 1: because this was the night after they had their first
Speaker 1: match and Rock beat him, and when they hit Brock's music,
Speaker 1: it was this big shock and he circled the Ring's
Speaker 1: exactly what Brock did here. He took his time, he
Speaker 1: circled the ring. Seena followed him. He's watching him the
Speaker 1: entire time. And Lesner removes his vest, he removes his hat.
Speaker 1: He gets into the ring, He ducks a clothesline attempt
Speaker 1: by John Cena gets him up on his shoulders and
Speaker 1: he puts him down with an F five and that's it.
Speaker 1: They played his music. Brock left the ring. He put
Speaker 1: his hat back on, he threw his vest over his shoulder,
Speaker 1: and he headed to the stage and Lesner looked back
Speaker 1: at the ring. He smiled before heading to the back
Speaker 1: Sena for a while. This was when the I think
Speaker 1: the show ended, and then they went into the post show.
Speaker 1: They kept the cameras rolling and Sena is just sitting
Speaker 1: on the apron. His music starts to play, and he
Speaker 1: looks into the camera and he goes like this, goes non,
Speaker 1: turn the music off. I just want to hear this.
Speaker 1: I want to hear the fans. So they turned his
Speaker 1: music off. The fans are cheering for him as he
Speaker 1: walks up the ramp final time at SummerSlam, and he
Speaker 1: gets to the stage and he salutes the fans he
Speaker 1: teased going backstage, but then he turns around again and
Speaker 1: he looks at the crowd one last time and emotioned
Speaker 1: that he was taking a mental picture, and then he
Speaker 1: made his exit. This match, this match saved the show
Speaker 1: for me. I'm not saying that every match on the
Speaker 1: show sucked. That's not true. But if we would have
Speaker 1: had like a SOSO main event or a main event
Speaker 1: that was comparable to what these two gave us in April,
Speaker 1: like this show, it would have been an awful way
Speaker 1: for SummerSlam to go off the air. As it was
Speaker 1: to me, this match saved the entire show. This match
Speaker 1: was awesome. This was the match that you would want,
Speaker 1: like John Cena in his final year, to go in
Speaker 1: there and have with Cody Rhoads. And they were out
Speaker 1: there for thirty seven minutes and John Cena was pulling
Speaker 1: things out of his ass that we have not seen
Speaker 1: him do so far this year. At no point during
Speaker 1: this match did John Cena look like he was gassed.
Speaker 1: Oh he's got nothing laught, Oh my god, he's so
Speaker 1: fucking old. Like he looked better in this match than
Speaker 1: he has looked in any of the matches we've seen
Speaker 1: him and since he came back at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year. So I'm glad that we got as close
Speaker 1: to the old John Cena as we could possibly get,
Speaker 1: Like this was the right time to get that, because
Speaker 1: this was the match where Cody was winning the belt back,
Speaker 1: and that always had to be the plan. Cody Rose
Speaker 1: looked like an idiot at WrestleMania. It was awful, and
Speaker 1: he's the guy now. It's not John Cena anymore. He
Speaker 1: is now the John Cena of this era in ww
Speaker 1: He has modeled himself after John Cena. John Cena was
Speaker 1: probably his dream opponent, so this had to be John
Speaker 1: Cena finally putting him over and basically passing the torch.
Speaker 1: Cody is the champion. Where he goes next, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting on that Randy Orton program. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if we're going right into that. I'm not sure. Frankly,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the lay of the land and on
Speaker 1: SmackDown right now, and I really have to think about
Speaker 1: like where they might be going, you know next with
Speaker 1: with Cody, I'm not sure, but as far as John
Speaker 1: Cena in this match, I thought he looked great. Cody
Speaker 1: was great. They played their parts perfectly and genuinely one
Speaker 1: of the best matches of the entire year. Like I
Speaker 1: cannot say enough good things about the match itself. Brock
Speaker 1: coming back to take it back to what we talked
Speaker 1: about at the beginning here, there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: said about whether or not they should have brought him back.
Speaker 1: I don't think the WWE needs Brockleisner. I don't think
Speaker 1: that they need the baggage that comes with his name
Speaker 1: right now. Until this whole situation is settled or resolved
Speaker 1: in some way, at least, they're gonna be haunted by questions.
Speaker 1: They're going to be peppered by questions. Triple H will
Speaker 1: be doing the Odd Media Interviewer podcast and he's gonna
Speaker 1: get hit with questions, and he better be prepared for them,
Speaker 1: because they're perfectly valid questions. You know, this may and
Speaker 1: is named in a very serious lawsuit that is still pending.
Speaker 1: Like there is a reason that Vince McMahon is no
Speaker 1: longer running the show. There's a reason that Paulavec is
Speaker 1: the one that is sitting in gorilla position right now. Right.
Speaker 1: The reason for that is Janelle Grant. So it's a
Speaker 1: serious situation and it's still unresolved, and brock Lesner's name
Speaker 1: has been linked to it. Right, He's not a defendant.
Speaker 1: He wasn't sued. But the fact that you know, these allegations,
Speaker 1: when you read them again, it's it's gross and it's disgusting.
Speaker 1: The idea that you know he was negotiating a new
Speaker 1: contract at the time, and that these things were going
Speaker 1: on or text messages were going back and forth like ah,
Speaker 1: take a look at this, you know that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and you know he's he's been you know, kind of
Speaker 1: roped into this and he's associated with this. Now I
Speaker 1: don't know why. Now, I don't know why. Okay, now
Speaker 1: the coast is clear and it's a good time to
Speaker 1: bring Brocklesner back. I don't know what the thought process is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it had to do specifically with
Speaker 1: John Cena. And we're not going to see brock work
Speaker 1: with anybody else but Sena because this is it, right,
Speaker 1: this is the last if they want to do him
Speaker 1: and Sena, this is it. They don't have another chance
Speaker 1: to do it, So I'd be very curious to know
Speaker 1: more about what kind of deal they reached. But that's
Speaker 1: that's just kind of the way things stand right now.
Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: people very happy to see Brock back because they feel
Speaker 1: that he can bring something that is missing to the
Speaker 1: product right now, and a lot of people that are
Speaker 1: just frankly, even if you kind of put all that
Speaker 1: sordid stuff on the side for a second, I think
Speaker 1: there are people that are just tired of seeing brock lesnar,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, there are people that probably are
Speaker 1: just going to look at this from a wrestling perspective
Speaker 1: and say, what's left for him to do here, which
Speaker 1: is valid. I do think that they're from a wrestling perspective.
Speaker 1: I think that there are new people that he could
Speaker 1: work with where you know, there could be some fun
Speaker 1: matches in there him and Sena. I mean, again, what
Speaker 1: kind of match are they going to have in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five? You know, I don't know what that looks like.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that match looks like. But if
Speaker 1: it were me, that would not have been something I
Speaker 1: would have gone out of my way to make happen
Speaker 1: is bringing Bracklesner back to ww A. And as I
Speaker 1: said earlier seeing a schedule, he's down to nine dates
Speaker 1: left on this retirement tour, and not a lot of
Speaker 1: those dates are for events here in the US, So
Speaker 1: we are rapidly approaching the end. I think it's a
Speaker 1: shame that they wasted a good five months with this
Speaker 1: heel nonsense looking back at what they did now that
Speaker 1: we know the heel turn is officially over. You know,
Speaker 1: I look at this and I go, man, I can
Speaker 1: kind of understand them maybe not wanting all these matches
Speaker 1: to be Babyface against Babyface, you know, like it would
Speaker 1: have against the Orton and against Punk, But like there's
Speaker 1: so many people, even some names he's worked with in
Speaker 1: the past, like a Shamus or someone like that, that
Speaker 1: I would love or AJ that I would love to
Speaker 1: see him back in the ring with one last time.
Speaker 1: There's still time for that to happen, But I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of optimism because he's only got so
Speaker 1: many matches left and the fact they want to, you know,
Speaker 1: use brock Lesnar for one of them, Well, we'll see
Speaker 1: how that goes. I'm I'm skeptical about how that's going
Speaker 1: to look. But let's take a look at this poll here,
Speaker 1: very curious again. I did the format that we did
Speaker 1: last night where I asked you guys to grade this
Speaker 1: show A, B, C or D. Thirty seven point four
Speaker 1: percent give this an A, thirty nine percent give the
Speaker 1: show a B, fourteen point two percent give the show
Speaker 1: a C, and nine percent give the show a D.
Speaker 1: Was isn't the last person lesnar fock Cody? Yes, I
Speaker 1: mentioned that earlier. That was SummerSlam two years ago. He
Speaker 1: did the job for Cody Rhoads. And then Cody went
Speaker 1: on to win the WWE Championship and King Nator just
Speaker 1: dropped ten gifted memberships and everybody who has gifted memberships tonight,
Speaker 1: You guys are awesome. Is that really his mother? Yes?
Speaker 1: That is Nick Wayne's actual mother. It's not like Mama
Speaker 1: Benjamin back in the day. This is his shoot mom.
Speaker 1: All right, let me roll back to the early super
Speaker 1: chats here so I make sure I don't miss anybody again.
Speaker 1: Get those questions in. Now's the time to do it
Speaker 1: if you haven't already done so, or if you just
Speaker 1: want to support. We've had tremendous support this entire weekend.
Speaker 1: So let me just thank everybody who has been a
Speaker 1: part of all the stream games. Appreciate it very much.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's see your death side getting us started. Earlier,
Speaker 1: I was thinking that they should blow off punkin set
Speaker 1: that Survivor series, since their feud technically began at that
Speaker 1: show two years ago. Yeah, you know what, I don't
Speaker 1: see that happening. I think that they're setting up for
Speaker 1: probably sets guys to be in wargames, unless it's like
Speaker 1: the MFT. Oh my god, I don't even want to
Speaker 1: think about that. You imagine if it's Solo Socoa and
Speaker 1: the MFTs in the fucking war Games match. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Death Site says, what if Sammy wins the rumble by
Speaker 1: eliminating Drew, and Drew goads Sammy into putting his shot
Speaker 1: on the line. Sammy finally beat Drew at the elimination chamber,
Speaker 1: he challenges Cody at Wrestleman he of forty two, and
Speaker 1: he beats him with the assist from Kevin Owens and
Speaker 1: turns tweener. Yeah. I'm not a fan of that idea,
Speaker 1: first of all, to goad him into putting his shot
Speaker 1: on the line when he's worked so hard to earn
Speaker 1: the shot in the first place. Just makes Sammy look stupid.
Speaker 1: But I also think Sammy against Cody is not the match.
Speaker 1: If anything, it's Sammy against Seth, not Cody. Also, what
Speaker 1: did the Hunter say when he shot Bambie's mother? Oh dear,
Speaker 1: not bad Bace beer Asena is getting number eighteen. No
Speaker 1: he's not, No, he is not. His title run is ova.
Speaker 1: That is it. That's why he kissed the title before
Speaker 1: he handed it to the referee tonight, because he knew
Speaker 1: it was the final time. Nick says, Look, if this
Speaker 1: is it for the Scena heel run, I think it's
Speaker 1: going to leave a permanent black mark on Triple H's
Speaker 1: run as creative head that will be brought up years
Speaker 1: from now. It'll definitely be a black mark for sure,
Speaker 1: because I just don't think it was good. And how
Speaker 1: do you fuck up a John Cena heel turn right?
Speaker 1: It came ten years too late, right, ten twelve, thirteen years.
Speaker 1: If it happened back then, I mean, under Vince, you
Speaker 1: never know. If it happened back then and they did
Speaker 1: it the right way, it would it would have been amazing.
Speaker 1: It would have been huge, and he was full time
Speaker 1: back then, so you could really have some fun with
Speaker 1: it instead of him showing up once every six weeks.
Speaker 1: Ace of Masta. Dustin had a better street fight. I
Speaker 1: saw Meltzer gave that five star like it's just whatever,
Speaker 1: it's his system, But my god, Dustin and Kyle Fletcher
Speaker 1: five stars for that match on collision, Bass Beers says
Speaker 1: Lesner with a feather in his cap Yes, he did
Speaker 1: have a feather. That's right, he had a feather in
Speaker 1: his cap ace of Master. Brock pits boy Lesner f
Speaker 1: this company. Yep. Holiday one ninety seven, Night two of
Speaker 1: Summer Slam has been by far better than Night one.
Speaker 1: You added Gunther versus Punk to this card, it would
Speaker 1: have been one of the better Summer slams. Boots Cody
Speaker 1: went heel. He didn't come back out to defend Cena
Speaker 1: from Lesner. Well maybe he went to the back and
Speaker 1: he was in the bathroom, you know, he went to
Speaker 1: the back, he was taking a shit, and then Brock
Speaker 1: music hits to get to bolst pants up and go
Speaker 1: running back out there. It's like, sorry, buddy, you're on
Speaker 1: your own shapey ninety nine, the Rock sent Brock right,
Speaker 1: because why do we need Brock versus Sena again. So
Speaker 1: his theory is the Rock may have sent Brock. I again,
Speaker 1: I we we don't need the Rock. We don't need
Speaker 1: the Rock. Justter Benz, F Brock Lesner and F Triple H,
Speaker 1: Nick con and Tko Dry Chicken says, I'm making this
Speaker 1: prediction Brockolesner will have his own retirement match next year
Speaker 1: at SummerSlam in Minneapolis. Well, he is a Minnesota guy,
Speaker 1: although he doesn't live there anymore. I don't think brockn
Speaker 1: it's a retirement match. Jano Compo. I think when Brock
Speaker 1: is done, he's just done. That's it. Jan Ocampo says
Speaker 1: if both made events didn't have neither of those finishes,
Speaker 1: this proves, other than Mania and possibly the Rumble, there
Speaker 1: shouldn't be two night pay per views. Money. It's all money.
Speaker 1: They can make money. They're gonna do it PB with
Speaker 1: a one hundred dollars super chap bomb, the big bomb
Speaker 1: of the night. Right there. I may be old and tired,
Speaker 1: but what was the whole point of Lesnar? Does he
Speaker 1: need more money? Can never have enough money? All right,
Speaker 1: that's what Brock says, Give me more money. I'll come back.
Speaker 1: Lord Freeza says brother Solo, thank you for your work.
Speaker 1: The Beast is back, says tremendous. I loved it, loved
Speaker 1: this Summer Slam. Only match that was bad was Cross
Speaker 1: against Sammy. Yeah. I don't think Cross did himself any
Speaker 1: favors with that match. Alexander says the only good thing
Speaker 1: of Brock's return is the match with Gunther at Mania
Speaker 1: is a possibility. Again, well, I mean that was a
Speaker 1: dream match for guntherro at one point. Actually, that was
Speaker 1: the match that was supposed to happen to wrestle Mania
Speaker 1: the following year, and obviously it didn't happen. Dry Chicken
Speaker 1: says Gunther retired Goldberg, maybe Lesner is next. I'd be
Speaker 1: okay with that. Look. I think Gunher is a possibility
Speaker 1: for John Cena's final apoek. Can you imagine if they
Speaker 1: had guntherer retire Goldberg and then Sina and then Brock.
Speaker 1: Lakers pats speak for all. Travis Scott should have interfered,
Speaker 1: you speak for all? Who is this all that you
Speaker 1: speak of? Dry Chicken? Time for he says, time to
Speaker 1: take a break from WWE. All right, Well, as long
Speaker 1: as you don't take a break from the streams. You
Speaker 1: can take a break from WWA, Jeremy Rose. Only WrestleMania
Speaker 1: should be two nights. If it is supposed to be
Speaker 1: the biggest event of the industry, then it should stand
Speaker 1: alone as a two night event. I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. Justter bens with Brocklesner back.
Speaker 1: I will be sticking with other wrestling shows besides WWE
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. And on my birthday, of all days,
Speaker 1: happy birthday, Justter you know what else happened. I mean
Speaker 1: it's after midnight now, but twenty eight years ago on
Speaker 1: August third, one of the greatest Summer Slam finishes of
Speaker 1: all time Undertaker and Brett Hart with Shawn Michaels as
Speaker 1: the guest referee. And where did it happen. Happen at
Speaker 1: the Meadowlands in New Jersey, right up the road from
Speaker 1: met Life Stadium. We got Tucky Neutron Mania, Roman versus
Speaker 1: b No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Tucky Tucky. We are not doing Roman reigns in brock
Speaker 1: Lesnar again. Okay, you can forget about that, he says,
Speaker 1: Roman versus brock Seth versus Punk Hayman on a pole match.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, it's one big match. Roman versus Brock, versus
Speaker 1: Seth versus Punk. I see Paul Hayman on a pole.
Speaker 1: Peter McNasty TV Gunther versus Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania forty two,
Speaker 1: Praying Holiday says, I wonder if we'll get Gunther versus boys.
Speaker 1: A lot of interesting Gunther and Brock. I see, well,
Speaker 1: look at mean, if Brock is back for more than
Speaker 1: just a John Cena match, that would be the match
Speaker 1: to see, right, that's the match I would want to see.
Speaker 1: Halen's Haven Night two is a blast. Weird to have
Speaker 1: two nights and have all the stipulation matches on one
Speaker 1: of them. One of them would have stood out on
Speaker 1: Night one. Yeah, they should have done a much better
Speaker 1: job of breaking up those stipulation matches. To have them
Speaker 1: all back to back to back like that was just
Speaker 1: too much. I felt like I was watching SummerSlam Extreme
Speaker 1: Rules Prince Vegeta. I know I'm a bit late, but
Speaker 1: rest in peace, Hulk Hogan, Love him or hate him,
Speaker 1: he is the Michael Jordan of wrestling, and, as it
Speaker 1: says in the nWo theme, the biggest icon in wrestling. See, sir,
Speaker 1: you are incorrect because according to WWA, the real icon
Speaker 1: here is Stephanie McMahon. She comes first, then holkovid Uh,
Speaker 1: mister Rod, the twenty dollars super chat, brock Lesner back, Huh,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Bro shocker of the whole weekend. Wow,
Speaker 1: it was the shocker of the weekend. It was more
Speaker 1: shocking than the money in the bancash. And I didn't
Speaker 1: hear a single person talking about brock Lesner. They did
Speaker 1: a very good job of keeping this under wraps. Apparently
Speaker 1: they flew him in last night into New Jersey in
Speaker 1: the dark of night, and they kept him hidden all
Speaker 1: day long. And I'm sure they were filming all of
Speaker 1: it for WWE Unreal. That'll probably be in season two.
Speaker 1: Season two has already been confirmed as well, all the
Speaker 1: stuff with Rollin's and the injury of the phony injury. Right,
Speaker 1: all this shit is being filmed for Unreal. They got
Speaker 1: cameras all over this stuff. They need content for the
Speaker 1: next season, Mark Kwan. How do they promote seeing a
Speaker 1: brock neither will barely come to raw or smack down? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's another issue. How do you promote
Speaker 1: a match like that when the two guys are barely around.
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Speaker 1: Sola Monster. Jeremy Rose Hayman foreshadowed Brock's return a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago on Raw when he said bron Breaker is
Speaker 1: the next big thing. And I told you this can
Speaker 1: mean Brock against Braun at WrestleMania. I'm not shocked. That's
Speaker 1: not really what that was. I mean he had it
Speaker 1: wasn't just the next big thing. I think the next
Speaker 1: big thing was said the Big Dog. It's like a
Speaker 1: bunch of different nicknames. So I mean that in and
Speaker 1: of itself wasn't really much of a giveaway. Holiday says
Speaker 1: Sena could have worked with Styles again and with newer
Speaker 1: talent like Breaker and Gunther. Brock against Sena is not
Speaker 1: something I need to see again. Last time they wrestled,
Speaker 1: I believe the last time they were in the ring
Speaker 1: together was that triple threat match with Rollins at the
Speaker 1: Royal Rumble and that was an excellent match. But Brock
Speaker 1: he was kind of la out for most of it.
Speaker 1: Then he made the big comeback at the end. Saquan
Speaker 1: chills when Vince walks out on Monday, Monday Night Raw
Speaker 1: and we get the shots of the crowd bowing down
Speaker 1: to him. Well, I'll tell you right now, if Vince
Speaker 1: comes back at some point, you will see these people
Speaker 1: in the crowd bowing to him. Oh, I guarantee it,
Speaker 1: guarantee it. I'll be the first to jump on Amazon
Speaker 1: and buy them some towels for their knees so they
Speaker 1: don't get rugburn. I'll fetex them to them. Johnny Bernie
Speaker 1: says they don't care support other wrestling companies. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: they certainly don't give a shit. That much is clear retro. Koh,
Speaker 1: I guess now we all know why they just so
Speaker 1: happened to end the phony scrums now of all times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny how that works. It's funny how that works.
Speaker 1: Bobby's World gifted a membership to Tanya. Welcome Tanya uh
Speaker 1: duffs VID's Brock against Sena at Paris. That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: I mean, otherwise it's got to be Paris or Perth.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no other real logical time to do
Speaker 1: it unless they save it for the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Bass beers as Lessener's return in twenty twelve was insane.
Speaker 1: I marked out well in the building. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: And what was crazier is this was around the time
Speaker 1: that Daniel Bryan started the Yes stuff and I remember
Speaker 1: when that show was over, there was a dark match.
Speaker 1: It was like a ten man tag or a twelve
Speaker 1: man tag because I don't even think he was maybe
Speaker 1: in a backstage segment on the show that night, he
Speaker 1: wasn't even raw, but he came out and I have it.
Speaker 1: I recorded it on my phone, like everybody in the
Speaker 1: building is doing this, and it was like the first
Speaker 1: time that I really saw that, and it was like
Speaker 1: a dark segment and I was like, holy shit. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the crowd in Miami that night was insane. Jack Davis,
Speaker 1: I wonder how Triple H explains to the female talent
Speaker 1: about bringing Brock back. I feel like they at least
Speaker 1: deserve an explanation from him or Nick con I don't
Speaker 1: think that they share your opinion. I don't think they
Speaker 1: give a shit. I really don't but just in case,
Speaker 1: they should probably just make sure the door is locked
Speaker 1: when they go to the bathroom. Holiday one ninety seven.
Speaker 1: I think they're sowing the seeds of Cody turning heel
Speaker 1: with the pile driver on Sina Orton would have to
Speaker 1: be an extreme heel. Otherwise, in a program with Cody,
Speaker 1: for the fans to turn on Randy, he would be
Speaker 1: and I think that he still can be. I'm intrigued
Speaker 1: by the possibility of heel Cody and babyface Randy. I
Speaker 1: just still think it's very stupid to turn Cody. I
Speaker 1: still just don't think it's the right time for that.
Speaker 1: Justin g All Hail Taller Tonga, Bigger than Tonga Loa
Speaker 1: nash DTV s up Solo SummerSlam was a low B
Speaker 1: grade show for me on both nights. I hope you
Speaker 1: have a good night. I hope you have a good
Speaker 1: night as well. I think you and I are in agreement.
Speaker 1: I have it at a BEE. I have it at
Speaker 1: a B for both nights. And to go back to
Speaker 1: the pile driver, the pile driver, I didn't read anything
Speaker 1: into the pile driver. I don't think the pile driver
Speaker 1: has anything to do with him going heel. I think
Speaker 1: you're looking for something that isn't there. Nash also says,
Speaker 1: are you good at wrestling impersonations? Can you give us
Speaker 1: your best one? I'm not. I'm not. I've done my
Speaker 1: Russo before. But other wrestlers, there's other people who are
Speaker 1: far better at impersonations than me. Darth Panic says, is
Speaker 1: wwe going to get to a point where all pls
Speaker 1: are two nights? Not all of them, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: see rumble, You're gonna see money in the bank. I
Speaker 1: think within a few years Survivor series, you could do it.
Speaker 1: With Survivor series. You could have two nights for two
Speaker 1: wargames matches where there is money to be made. If
Speaker 1: they feel like the market is there for that, they
Speaker 1: will do it. I mean they are in money making
Speaker 1: mode more so now than ever. Even if it's detrimental
Speaker 1: to the on air product, they can make money off it,
Speaker 1: They're gonna do it. Jeremy says, any thoughts on the
Speaker 1: Zio Rakkeishi beef not really. It's kind of sad that
Speaker 1: all of that is being litigated publicly like that, so
Speaker 1: probably should be taken private. But that's that's between two
Speaker 1: family members. You know Zilla's father, Umaga is Rakishi's brother,
Speaker 1: and frankly, I haven't really been following all the comments.
Speaker 1: I think Mozilla's mom made some kind I haven't even
Speaker 1: been following all of it. Def sithe. Unless wwe can
Speaker 1: get Stone Cold Steve Austin to be John Cena's final opponent,
Speaker 1: which I doubt, then it is safe to say that
Speaker 1: this retirement tour has been a bigger botch since the invasion.
Speaker 1: Angle John Cena and Stone Cold in Sena's retirement match.
Speaker 1: You think Sena? You think Austin is going to come
Speaker 1: back just to lose to John Cena in his retirement match.
Speaker 1: Nick Grosso, what does Ria and EO do now? Maybe
Speaker 1: they team up for a bit and feud with Oscar
Speaker 1: and Kyrie, because these Oscar segments have to be going somewhere.
Speaker 1: I would think that the Oscar stuff, it's been like
Speaker 1: these little subtle hints about maybe her and EO having
Speaker 1: some sort of issue. You know, if you're going to
Speaker 1: do a tag team thing with Ria for a month
Speaker 1: or two, I guess that's fine. But she's too big
Speaker 1: to be stuck in a tag team, Like she's too
Speaker 1: big of a star to just be stuck in a
Speaker 1: tag team for months on end Asia twenty dollars super chat.
Speaker 1: Just to thank you for your review. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you very much. That means a lot, Holliday,
Speaker 1: says Cody versus scene. It turned out to be better
Speaker 1: than I expected. The Scena heel turned ruined the big
Speaker 1: fight feel of their WrestleMania match, and Sina was less
Speaker 1: spirited and more worn in his performance. Night two to
Speaker 1: one by a mile. Well, if I was gonna compare
Speaker 1: the two nights as similar as they are, I enjoyed
Speaker 1: the main and I like the main event on Night
Speaker 1: one with Gunther and Punk, but I enjoyed the main
Speaker 1: event on Night two more so. Night two gets the
Speaker 1: nod for me, but only slightly. Terrible. Dried Chicken says
Speaker 1: John Cena. Heel Run should have been the easiest task
Speaker 1: to do in pro wrestling, seen as Heel Run was
Speaker 1: more dried chicken than me. It's pretty dry, uh, doctor Scorpio.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to wager Naomi beats Vicaire in Paris. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, she's she's got to be the favorite. Prince
Speaker 1: Vegeta twenty one months in membership, This rollins punk Stuff
Speaker 1: needs to end. They are trying to make this an
Speaker 1: all time few, but it's just not doing it for me.
Speaker 1: Punkin McIntyre was better in my opinion. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to compare the two, Punkin McIntyre was
Speaker 1: great at least this one though, like it does have
Speaker 1: an element that a lot of feuds don't have, where
Speaker 1: you can you can buy into the idea that these
Speaker 1: two really don't like each other. Duff's VIDs. How come
Speaker 1: you can't trust trains? They have locomotives they do Nick
Speaker 1: Grosso nineteen ninety nine, just like Duffs. Maybe they could
Speaker 1: be attack team. I'm not surprised Becky retained because I
Speaker 1: knew where they were going. Bailey plays a role in
Speaker 1: Lyra losing. She's out of the way for now, and
Speaker 1: now we get Becky versus Bailey. Then we get Bailey
Speaker 1: versus Lyra with Bailey dropping the title. We'll see that's
Speaker 1: the only way she's gonna get her hands on that
Speaker 1: title now, so better hope that's the way it works out.
Speaker 1: Cobalt Jones, thank you for the membership. Duff's viz. Why
Speaker 1: can't a tomato win a race? It can't catch up,
Speaker 1: it can't catch up death side. Also, speaking of Sina
Speaker 1: and Austin, it is also safe to say Austin's heel
Speaker 1: turn in two thousand and one was far more entertaining
Speaker 1: than Sina's heel turned in twenty twenty five. Entertaining absolutely,
Speaker 1: it was much more entertaining. Duff'svid says, I really love
Speaker 1: pizza from my head to Motoes, I like see I
Speaker 1: like that one. That's my favorite one so far, from
Speaker 1: my head and to Motoes Holiday one night twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Where does this your summer slam rate? Out of all
Speaker 1: summer slam paper? Oh? I don't dude, Come on, man,
Speaker 1: there's been like thirty something SummerSlam. Is this? This is
Speaker 1: not even in my top ten? Night two alone would
Speaker 1: be up there for me, but Night one brings it down.
Speaker 1: This could have been a one night show with Gunther
Speaker 1: versus punk dude. I don't even think it's in my
Speaker 1: top ten. But where exactly it ranks? I have no idea?
Speaker 1: Doves VIDs? What do you call your grandma on speed dial? Instagram? Instagram?
Speaker 1: Bass beerus with a five dollars super chat felt somber
Speaker 1: seeing Jeff he should be way bigger than he is.
Speaker 1: He could have had it all. Glad he's at least
Speaker 1: doing okay today. He's referring to Jeff Hardy, who was
Speaker 1: in the crowd with his brother watching the show. You know,
Speaker 1: considering his his history and all the issues he's had.
Speaker 1: If you're a Jeff Hardy fan, I think that you
Speaker 1: should just be content that he is doing well. You know,
Speaker 1: he's doing well in TNA, He's still wrestling and seems
Speaker 1: to be doing well. Otherwise. It's about as good as
Speaker 1: you can hope for. Could he have been much bigger,
Speaker 1: of course, but you know, again, he's got nobody to
Speaker 1: blame for that but himself, the sheriff of Patties. When
Speaker 1: life pulls me away from wrestling, your shows keep me informed, entertained,
Speaker 1: and always bring me back to watching. Still the best
Speaker 1: in the biz. M That's what I love to hear,
Speaker 1: Thank you, gold Dust, respector love that Becky is embracing
Speaker 1: the Becky Hogan things so much. Her entrance video was
Speaker 1: all yellow and red. You know, I didn't even notice that.
Speaker 1: I was just so focused on the new music. I
Speaker 1: wasn't even really paying attention to what was on the screens.
Speaker 1: Duff's VIDs with a nineteen ninety nine Why did the
Speaker 1: one handed man cross the road to get to the
Speaker 1: second hand store? Hmm, not bad, but I liked the
Speaker 1: last one more. Arnold PJ. You would dislike Lyra and
Speaker 1: Becky's match even more as I did if you would
Speaker 1: notice that Lyra got free after she first avoided a
Speaker 1: manhandle slam on the chairs, and then she quickly put
Speaker 1: her hands together. You know what, I I did not
Speaker 1: catch that. Then she quickly put her hands together again. Wow,
Speaker 1: I have to go back and take a look at that. Now,
Speaker 1: that's just awful. Again. I know what they were going for,
Speaker 1: but it just all it really did was hinder the match.
Speaker 1: Honestly didn't. It didn't enhance the match or make it
Speaker 1: better at all. Duffsvids. How do you get a smoking
Speaker 1: hot body as a senior citizen god cremation? That's terrible, terrible, true,
Speaker 1: but terrible. Bender mc simpson. Uh. The Women's Triple Threat
Speaker 1: and AJ and DOM were the best parts of the weekend,
Speaker 1: But this weekend was an l random question. Where do
Speaker 1: you rank the Hull Cogan diamond shaped WWF title belt?
Speaker 1: Are we talking about the Hogan eighty six belt? The
Speaker 1: Hogan belt that he had at WrestleMania three. I liked
Speaker 1: that belt, so he had it from eighty six and
Speaker 1: to eighty seven. That belt I liked. I assume that's
Speaker 1: the diamond belt. That's the one you're referring to. There
Speaker 1: was another one that was a little bit smaller that
Speaker 1: he had, like an eighty five. That one's okay. I
Speaker 1: wasn't like a I really wasn't like a huge fan
Speaker 1: of that one though. Bass Beers says, we don't get
Speaker 1: enough Number one Contenders matches on ples. I think they
Speaker 1: belong on TV. You save your biggest matches for the pls.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could do Number one Contenders matches every
Speaker 1: now and then, but you gotta save something for TV.
Speaker 1: It's so many freaking hours of TV. I want some
Speaker 1: matches that mean something. Athletic Geek eighty nine. Do you
Speaker 1: think that Brock coming back will be bad PR for
Speaker 1: WWE and TKO? As bad as this may sound, do
Speaker 1: you think it matters? I appreciate hearing your take. Love
Speaker 1: the show. Is it going to be bad PR for them? Yes?
Speaker 1: Is it going to matter? No? No, Because here's the
Speaker 1: reality of it. For all the people that you're going
Speaker 1: to see on social media who are very upset that
Speaker 1: WWE would bring Brock back when things are still very
Speaker 1: unsettled when it comes to all that stuff, The majority
Speaker 1: of fans, they don't care. The majority of WWE fans
Speaker 1: probably are not even aware of the situation, and even
Speaker 1: if they are, I would say more than not, don't
Speaker 1: give a shit. You want a realistic reality take on it.
Speaker 1: That's the reality of the situation. So to answer your
Speaker 1: question doesn't matter. No, it's not going to affect their
Speaker 1: business one iota. So they don't care. Uh Duff's VIDs.
Speaker 1: Why did the belt and the suspenders go to jail?
Speaker 1: They both held up a pair of pants. Jeremy Rose
Speaker 1: exorbitant prices, two nights, lazy, creative until fans stop shelling
Speaker 1: out the money. This is what we are going to
Speaker 1: get going forward. Yes, but Jeremy, it's it's cinema. Larry
Speaker 1: Jester has seen a call his rocker dropper the Seeneasser.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I've never heard him use that name.
Speaker 1: And now it's too late. He's retiring, so now it's
Speaker 1: too late for him to start calling it that. Bace beers.
Speaker 1: We need more backstage segments on Ples. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: especially when you have twenty minutes in between matches. Debt
Speaker 1: sithe the only Samoan Jacob fought too should be in
Speaker 1: a program with his Roman reigns. Hopefully it WrestleMania of
Speaker 1: forty two. We need to get that match at some point.
Speaker 1: I do agree. Derek J. Speaks fans were chanting we
Speaker 1: want Cross on the post show, Triple H thought they
Speaker 1: were saying we want Brock. Is this the definition of
Speaker 1: tone depth? They hear what they want to hear. They
Speaker 1: hear what they want to hear, King Nader. I enjoyed tonight,
Speaker 1: and I think I missed John Cena as a baby face.
Speaker 1: I popped for him for his entrance even though I
Speaker 1: knew it was coming best Sena that I have seen
Speaker 1: in years. Anobie mL Hello Solo. Could Sokoa's MFT be
Speaker 1: the new Learning Tree? Oh my god, I think it
Speaker 1: already is not nearly as annoying, though also a wild
Speaker 1: Nick con appears during the Sena Lesnar moment. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was right in the front row, right at the corner
Speaker 1: of the aisleway. That's usually where he is when he
Speaker 1: shows up. Uh Duff's viz. What do you call a
Speaker 1: funny mountain hilarious? What do you call a funny mountain hilarious? Okay?
Speaker 1: I once loved two girls at a time. Their names
Speaker 1: were Kate and Edith. I learned what they say is true.
Speaker 1: Can have Kate and Edith too? Oh boy, your suck
Speaker 1: Bobby's world. Thank you for the gifted membership to JL.
Speaker 1: Justin g with two gifted memberships, Fabian Garcia. I heard
Speaker 1: you were rooting for Miz at WrestleMania twenty seven from
Speaker 1: wrestle Talks Nexus video Allie named you. Is this true?
Speaker 1: I was rooting for the Miz at WrestleMania twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Link me to the video. I certainly wasn't cheering for
Speaker 1: that main event Wolf nine Deuce, although missus intro video
Speaker 1: on that show to NAS was quite awesome. Wolf says,
Speaker 1: how about a salute to you, my brother? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna salute you right back, mutual salute my friend Duff's viz.
Speaker 1: Why don't roosters wear underwear? Their peckers are on their
Speaker 1: face down bad. Even before the lawsuit stuff, I stopped
Speaker 1: caring about LESNAR a long time ago. Great main event
Speaker 1: though it was, it was a great main event. Don't
Speaker 1: forget we got two rounds coming up. Man of be
Speaker 1: the booker. We got two shit. I might go three
Speaker 1: if a fucking gigantic bomb gets drop. Super Pony says,
Speaker 1: fien fien fien, fien, fien fien fien, And here I
Speaker 1: was hoping not to hear it. Tonight, Pisco ninety five
Speaker 1: wrestling is so fascinating. Two guys can have a shitty match,
Speaker 1: but put them in the ring again, and now they
Speaker 1: have a Match of the Year contender. Too bad. Brock's
Speaker 1: return is going to overshadow SNA passing the torch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well pretty much torch at that moment. Uh got Enigma
Speaker 1: three sixteen. Can't wait until everybody says this is an
Speaker 1: eighty seven percent ple like good little drones. No percentages
Speaker 1: on this one, A B, C or D. Jeremy Rose says,
Speaker 1: Drew Cody in Paris, Ah, Drew. That's right, Drew is
Speaker 1: on SmackDown. Drew McIntyre and Cody Rhodes could be the
Speaker 1: next program. I am down for that. I am down
Speaker 1: for that. Matt Fisher, you could say that I can't
Speaker 1: think of any puns. You could say that I can't
Speaker 1: think of any puns well, thank you anyway, Matt appreciate
Speaker 1: the love the Juliet with the twenty five says, what
Speaker 1: I say about Brock's return would be censored by YouTube
Speaker 1: in this super chat. I wonder if seeing a politic
Speaker 1: to have Brock returned to have one last match with Brock. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't see scene a politicking for any specific opponent.
Speaker 1: So the answer on that is now, brock Lesnar is
Speaker 1: not back because John Cena lobby to have brock Lesnar back.
Speaker 1: I just I can't see that. I just don't think
Speaker 1: he would get involved in that, you know, throw himself
Speaker 1: into that. Mactubb says better overall performer Punk or Jericho.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean we're not just talking about right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's assume we're not just referring to, like right now, Jericho.
Speaker 1: Justin g two gifted memberships. Let's keep racking them up. Man,
Speaker 1: there's a number I'm trying to get back to rack
Speaker 1: him up, King Nator with ten. That'll help. Thank you,
Speaker 1: King Nator for the gifted memberships. Death Site thirteen dollars.
Speaker 1: Super chest Sena passed the torch to Cody. I thought
Speaker 1: Cody already had the torch when he beat Roman at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: Since Roman had already replaced Sena as the face of WWE,
Speaker 1: and now Cody has replaced Roman. Yes, but Roman is
Speaker 1: not the one that they refer to as the greatest
Speaker 1: of all time. When he comes out the idea that
Speaker 1: Sena is the goat. It's not my goat, but to them,
Speaker 1: he's the goat. Cody has now beaten the goat and
Speaker 1: Sina hands the title to him. It's like a passing
Speaker 1: of the torch. I always laughter wrestle Many at eighteen
Speaker 1: when they said that Hogan was passing the torch to
Speaker 1: the Rock. Meanwhile the Rock, it was two thousand and two.
Speaker 1: Rock's already on his way out. He's starting to do
Speaker 1: movies in Hollywood passing the torch. Zizo zanc good moments,
Speaker 1: but SummerSlam was not worth two nights of my time
Speaker 1: as a fan. Keep SummerSlam one night. But I understand
Speaker 1: WWE is money over quality. Yeah, yeah again punkin Jericho, Man,
Speaker 1: I just I go back with Jericho. I go all
Speaker 1: the way back to the cruiserweight stuff and the conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory stuff in WCW. And you know the list of
Speaker 1: one thousand and four Holt. He's been able to like
Speaker 1: reinvent himself in different ways over these past few decades
Speaker 1: where he's been consistently entertaining up to a point, he's
Speaker 1: been consistently entertaining while also being able to go out
Speaker 1: there and have these great matches that he's had. So,
Speaker 1: you know, with Punk it's close, but I just got
Speaker 1: to give Jericho the edge on that Punk. Punk has
Speaker 1: something that a lot of people don't have when it
Speaker 1: comes to the promos he cuts. Because Jericho was never
Speaker 1: a bad promo. I would give Punk the edge on promos.
Speaker 1: He had a certain again authenticity to him that a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't have. But when I look at
Speaker 1: the whole package, just I give Jericho the slight edge.
Speaker 1: Jacob says, I was there and I couldn't help but
Speaker 1: cheer for Supersena over Cody. Seeing John Cena run down
Speaker 1: the ramp made me feel like a kid again. Matt Fisher,
Speaker 1: j C should win the Intercontinental title. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's ever held it. Oh, JC got I thought you
Speaker 1: were talking about j C. Matteo. I'm like, it's kind
Speaker 1: of random. You say, Jason, we have a JC on
Speaker 1: the roster. You gotta specify these things, man. John Cena
Speaker 1: should win the Intercontinental title. I don't think he's ever
Speaker 1: held it. Actually, he said win the IC title. Sir?
Speaker 1: Do you think John Cena should win the women's Intercontinental
Speaker 1: title as well? Just give him both. John Cena is
Speaker 1: not going to waste his last nine appearances going after
Speaker 1: the Intercontinental Championship after he just lost the WWE Championship.
Speaker 1: So it's not happening. I can't tell you how many
Speaker 1: people always bring that up to me, and do you
Speaker 1: think that? Do you think they'll do this? Should they do? Like? No, no,
Speaker 1: if he wasn't retiring, then maybe, but no, the time
Speaker 1: for that is long gone. It's over, it's done. It's
Speaker 1: beneath him. Owen Curtis, first time in eleven years that
Speaker 1: WWE title has changed hands at SummerSlam. That's an interesting stat.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ should win the Icy though. Okay, so in
Speaker 1: that one super chat we have, j C could be
Speaker 1: John Cena should win the Intercontinental title. J C. Matteo
Speaker 1: or Jesus Christ. I don't know. I don't think Jesus
Speaker 1: needs it. I feel like he's probably a little bit
Speaker 1: above the Intercontinental title. Owen Curtis. Last time was Sena
Speaker 1: versus Brock history overlaps. Wow. So this is the first
Speaker 1: time since Brock beat Sena that the WWE title has
Speaker 1: changed hands at Summersley? Is that true? That sounds impossible
Speaker 1: to me. Mactub buy or Sell two thousand, Triple h
Speaker 1: Or nineteen ninety seven, Brett nineteen ninety seven, Brett abyssle
Speaker 1: zones By Sell rent On in Ring Chemistry, Rock Austin
Speaker 1: Rock Triple H or Austin Triple H by On Rock Austin,
Speaker 1: rent On Rock Triple H, Sell On Austin Triple H.
Speaker 1: All three were great, but that's how I'm ranking them.
Speaker 1: Thunder Force. I think WWE wants see it to get
Speaker 1: a big win over Brock. While he did beat him
Speaker 1: at Extreme Rules in twenty twelve, Brock dominated him in
Speaker 1: that match. What do you think is gonna happen this time?
Speaker 1: What do you think I think is going to happen
Speaker 1: this time? Do you think that Brock Lesnar is coming
Speaker 1: back to go in there and do what to get
Speaker 1: his ass kick for eighty percent of the match. It
Speaker 1: still bothers me that Brock lost that match by the way,
Speaker 1: first fucking match back and he loses to John Cena.
Speaker 1: We got j F Dubie or dube. Am I the
Speaker 1: only one pissed about l A. Knight's treatment? No, I
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of people who were upset about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that they couldn't find a spot
Speaker 1: for him on the show is pretty ridiculous. But now
Speaker 1: that Seth Rollins is the champion, LA Knight should be
Speaker 1: challenging him in Paris for that title because he has
Speaker 1: a win over him from Saturday Nights made event. That
Speaker 1: should be the world heavyweight title match in Paris at
Speaker 1: the end of the month. We got Leolio is with
Speaker 1: us five months. Just call me Leo. Well, I wish
Speaker 1: I would have read that first. Okay, well, I will
Speaker 1: do that. Just call me Leo, he says. Bringing Brock
Speaker 1: back just reeks of creative bankruptcy. Aside from a couple
Speaker 1: of matches, this was pretty boring. Yeah, that's why I say.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's certainly not a top ten SummerSlam for me.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to go as high as a solid B
Speaker 1: for both nights. That's about it. I mean, I have standards.
Speaker 1: Kevin Brock and Sena should just play a friendly game.
Speaker 1: Of mini golf for the main event of the next
Speaker 1: pl e with Fien French version playing in the background.
Speaker 1: Is a French version of Fen? Really? Yeah? Maybe Brock
Speaker 1: and Scenic could have some kind of competition other than
Speaker 1: just a wrestling match, could do musical chairs like they
Speaker 1: did on that one episode of Raw Peanut Butter Shelley
Speaker 1: with the nine ninety nine, I feel it is gross
Speaker 1: Brock got brought back. But just FYI to all the
Speaker 1: people saying, watch aw, they brought back Rick Flair for
Speaker 1: Sting's retirement after he had very gross allegations, bad all around.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Peanut Butter Shelley, we got capyitaw. I remember
Speaker 1: you saying that there's no chance Vince McMahon comes back,
Speaker 1: and I would wholeheartedly agree. After the last few days,
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure now, you know, nothing would surprise
Speaker 1: me anymore, but I'm gonna say no, he is not
Speaker 1: coming back. Would I put it past this company though? Now?
Speaker 1: Fabian Garcia comfort Match and comfort Show, Comfort Show, King
Speaker 1: of the Ring ninety three, that's my comfort show King
Speaker 1: of the Ring ninety three or Royal Rumble ninety two,
Speaker 1: Comfort Match. I mean, there's any number of them. Really
Speaker 1: probably Brett Haart and mister Perfect from King of the
Speaker 1: Ring ninety three. I have, I have watched that numerous times.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a lot, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: different options, but I'll I'll throw that one out there.
Speaker 1: That's my comfort match on my comfort show death side. One.
Speaker 1: Last thing. I didn't say Austin would lose to scene
Speaker 1: a Goldberg lost his And there's been plenty of wrestlers
Speaker 1: who have lost their final match. Yes, but you're missing
Speaker 1: the point though, Like you're gonna bring back sixty year
Speaker 1: old Steve Austin out of retirement to beat John Cena
Speaker 1: in his retirement match. Why, I don't understand the logic.
Speaker 1: You get a lot more out of it if you
Speaker 1: use a guy like Gunther who's on your roster right now,
Speaker 1: or Eve been a bron breaker Davy Boy eleven. Here's
Speaker 1: a terrible impression of Duff's VIDs. What's the worst tasting
Speaker 1: part of a vegetable? The wheelchair? Oh? I think even
Speaker 1: Duff's VIDs is like, dude, what the fuck this journey
Speaker 1: called life? Hello? Solo haven't been in. Haven't been on
Speaker 1: in a while due to the work schedule. But I
Speaker 1: had to check in and say I had a great
Speaker 1: time at SummerSlam, went both nights and I am pleased.
Speaker 1: Punk getting cashed in on made me cry? Why not
Speaker 1: as much as that guy in that video? I saw?
Speaker 1: There was one CM Punk fan going down an escalator
Speaker 1: as he was leaving last night, who apparently was very upset.
Speaker 1: He did not look like he was having a very
Speaker 1: good time. Bobby's World, Buy or sell Austin's heel turn
Speaker 1: at Wrestleman he is seventeen or Austin's heel turn at Invasion,
Speaker 1: if in fact you consider that Austin turned face at
Speaker 1: the raw before Invasion. I mean, if I had to choose,
Speaker 1: I would buy on the WrestleMania turn the Invasion turn.
Speaker 1: Just it just irritated the shit out of me, like
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't enjoy that, death Sithe. What did
Speaker 1: the rabbit say to the veterinarian? What's up? Doc? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Death Sithe? James Gentry. If Sena has four matches left
Speaker 1: and one is Brock, who would be the other? Three? Punk?
Speaker 1: Roman seth Aj who else would you say? Brock for
Speaker 1: last or the next PLA. I would not save Brock
Speaker 1: for life. I think you do that in Paris or Perth.
Speaker 1: Punk's been done Roman. I have no interest in seeing
Speaker 1: seen in Roman. I didn't think their first match frankly
Speaker 1: or not the first one, but the well actually now
Speaker 1: even the first one they had in twenty seven teen
Speaker 1: was it twenty seventeen at no mercy, I don't remember
Speaker 1: that being all that great. And I really didn't think
Speaker 1: their summer Selim matches all that great. And now they're
Speaker 1: both babyfaces and it doesn't make any sense. So I
Speaker 1: would not do Roman. I would not do Punk again.
Speaker 1: I think AJ would be great. I think Gunther. I
Speaker 1: think Gunther as his last opponent makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: As far as you know, they're gonna do Brock. If
Speaker 1: they did Brock AJ and Gunther, I'd be fine with that.
Speaker 1: I'd be fine with that. Drew, Drew could work to
Speaker 1: him and Drew El Prescat who appears on WWE in
Speaker 1: person first, Vince or Trump god El Prescat neither. Matt
Speaker 1: Fisher says Scenasser l o loo l. He had the
Speaker 1: chance to do it. He had the chance to do it.
Speaker 1: Now he's retiring. It's too late. Can't do it. Chris
Speaker 1: as a woman who is a wrestling fan. It's scary
Speaker 1: and upsetting to see how little people care about victims
Speaker 1: love your show though, man, keep it up again. That's
Speaker 1: why I said before, you know, when I got that
Speaker 1: other super Chat, It's like, realistically, you know, do you
Speaker 1: think it really matters? Is it gonna matter? It's like
Speaker 1: it's not, you know, their business is kind of bulletproof
Speaker 1: right now, honestly, and I just feel like the majority
Speaker 1: of their audience is unaware of a lot of things,
Speaker 1: and maybe they choose to be, you know, or it
Speaker 1: just doesn't bother them. And you know, in a lot
Speaker 1: of the in a lot of those cases, it's sad,
Speaker 1: but you know, that's that's just kind of the way
Speaker 1: it is. That's that's what I've seen. But thank you,
Speaker 1: Chris uh Super Pony, Sammy against Seth Cody versus Punk
Speaker 1: WrestleMania Lock it In Sammy and Seth Cody and Punk.
Speaker 1: I could live with that. And Dan Neil Malcolm celebrates
Speaker 1: twenty three months of Channel membership. Constable Corbin anyway, Yeah no, no,
Speaker 1: no bum ass Corbin for seeing his final opponent. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you guys for all the messages and the questions.
Speaker 1: We are currently sitting at nearing fourteen hundred likes, which
Speaker 1: is awesome. We could break that, right, we could break
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred. Let's get twenty more. But we are scheduled
Speaker 1: for two rounds of be the booker. We had quite
Speaker 1: the night last night. Let's see how it goes tonight.
Speaker 1: It is time to be the booker. Ladies or gentlemen,
Speaker 1: It is now time to be the booker. Oh, it
Speaker 1: is time. We had some interesting choices last night that
Speaker 1: we ended up with. So we're doing two rounds. Let's
Speaker 1: do this first one here, and we're starting things out now.
Speaker 1: We have some new people here who have probably never
Speaker 1: seen this before, and they're wondering what is this. We're
Speaker 1: just randomly booking some matches tag match, women's match, main
Speaker 1: event and seeing what we can come up with. There's
Speaker 1: dozens and dozens of options here. And this right here
Speaker 1: are the Kings of Wrestling. This is Chris Hero and
Speaker 1: Claudio and former tag team champions together could have been
Speaker 1: a great team in WWA. Kings of Wrestling against the
Speaker 1: Kings of Canada. Look at this Brett and Owen Hart. Dude,
Speaker 1: the Kings of Wrestling against Bretta and Heart Take my
Speaker 1: money now that's a tremendous start to be the booker.
Speaker 1: We have Raquel Rodriguez, one half of the Women's Tag
Speaker 1: team champions. Ever since the Kevin Nash comments, she's been
Speaker 1: working big. She's been working like a monster in the division.
Speaker 1: I like what I've been seeing from Raquel. She took
Speaker 1: those Kevin Nash comments to heart, and Raquel is going
Speaker 1: to be working big against Jamie Hayter, who was out injured.
Speaker 1: Once again. I'm telling you she got hurt when she
Speaker 1: got spiked by Mercedes in their match, like right near
Speaker 1: the end of that match. She got spiked in her
Speaker 1: fucking head. And then we have not seen I mean
Speaker 1: they did the tecla Al on TV where Tekla took
Speaker 1: her out, but we haven't seen her since that. That
Speaker 1: was an awful bump. I'd be shocked if that's not
Speaker 1: what injured her. Ah. Yes, I'm sorry, former Women's Tag
Speaker 1: team champion, Raquel Rodriguez. You are correct. All right? Our
Speaker 1: first main event here, let's see we have two in
Speaker 1: the no. Uh Nigel McGinnis. He was pretty great too.
Speaker 1: Back in the day. I saw many great Nigel McGinnis
Speaker 1: matches and Ring of Honor and even summoned TNA Desmond Wolf,
Speaker 1: Nigel McGinnis against bron Breaker and that is a clean sweep.
Speaker 1: We got bells for all three. How can we possibly
Speaker 1: top this? I think we should just cut our losses.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of cut the second round out. I mean,
Speaker 1: we can't top that. We'll save the second round for tomorrow. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I owe you a second round now.
Speaker 1: In the second round, we have stipulations. Tons of stipulations
Speaker 1: are in here, all kinds of wacky stipulations too. So
Speaker 1: let's see what our first match is going to be.
Speaker 1: It is going to be. Well, look I said wacky,
Speaker 1: and I was not lying when I said that. It
Speaker 1: is a Mimosa Mayhem match. Look at Jerichosa. This is
Speaker 1: what he's been doing the last few months. He's been
Speaker 1: off TV, by the way, he's been lounging out in
Speaker 1: his Mimosa bath, probably shooting great into his veins. All right,
Speaker 1: so let's do, uh, how do we do? We can't
Speaker 1: do a tag match? Usually we start with the tag match.
Speaker 1: How are we gonna have a tag team Amosa Mayhem match?
Speaker 1: All right, we'll have to do the ladies. We'll have
Speaker 1: to do the women. That's all. You got no choice.
Speaker 1: We gotta do the women. This is going to be
Speaker 1: a women's Mimosa Mayhem match. Now, the way this works
Speaker 1: is the match is over when you throw your opponent
Speaker 1: into the mimosa bath. So that is how you win
Speaker 1: the match. Yes, this was a real stipulation, Randall. I
Speaker 1: did not make this shit out. You saw it in
Speaker 1: the photo right there. That was a real stipulation. We
Speaker 1: have Zaia Lee who is now in TNA, but we
Speaker 1: have Ziya Lee and she is going to be stepping
Speaker 1: into the ring with Tony Storm. Tony Storm and Zaya Lee.
Speaker 1: You know, if anybody can make the stipulation work, it's
Speaker 1: Tony Storm, Timeless time. She's not timeless in this photo,
Speaker 1: but timeless Tony Storm. I was ready. I was all
Speaker 1: ready to hit the buzzer on that one. Now we
Speaker 1: do a tag team match. It is a tag team
Speaker 1: hair match, so the losing team will have to have
Speaker 1: their head shaved. So that's what we're doing here. Okay,
Speaker 1: tag team hair match. I don't believe that there has
Speaker 1: been a tag team hair match since Eddie and Art
Speaker 1: bar Right. If the World's Collide wasn't that a hair
Speaker 1: match love Machine art Bar another controversial figure. Oh well,
Speaker 1: this is not fair. Can't do that. It's the Toxic Turtles.
Speaker 1: They have no hair. Well, we have a bit of
Speaker 1: a We're in a bit of a stalemate here. I
Speaker 1: don't know what to do now. This is very unfair.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like Caine being in a first
Speaker 1: Blood match and he's covered from head to toe. How
Speaker 1: the fuck are we supposed to do a hair man.
Speaker 1: I gotta pick a new stipulation. I can't. We have
Speaker 1: to pick a new stipulation. They have no hair, all right?
Speaker 1: Tag Team Bear God Tag Team buried a live match,
Speaker 1: So basically we're burying two people in one grave. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to stack them up. This is unbelievable. Tag
Speaker 1: team buried alive. You've got to stack them, stack them
Speaker 1: and bury them. Actually, one of my favorite SmackDown matches
Speaker 1: was a tag team buried a live match. Right, it
Speaker 1: was Rock and Mankind against the God. Who was it? No,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry it was Undertaker And yeah it was Undertaker
Speaker 1: and Big Show against Rock and Mankind? Oh god, did
Speaker 1: they have it? Did they have a name? Where they
Speaker 1: were they? Harlem Heat two thousand? Was that? Their name,
Speaker 1: Stevie Ray and Big T the former Ahmed Johnson. This
Speaker 1: was in w c W. I think they were Harlem
Speaker 1: Heat two thousand. Oh my god, poor Ko and Sammy
Speaker 1: Kevin Owens and Sammy Zain in a tag team Buried
Speaker 1: a live match against Harlem Heat two thousand. You know
Speaker 1: I am, I am kind of morbidly curious what this
Speaker 1: would look like with Ahmed Johnson wrestling Sammy's Ain. I
Speaker 1: have look I feel like I would be sports entertained.
Speaker 1: I also am I actually am a fan of the
Speaker 1: Buried a live stipulation. I'm a mark for that step.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I've always liked that stipulation. I
Speaker 1: can't explain it. All Right, we have one last main
Speaker 1: event left to go. We could very well end up
Speaker 1: with a second clean sweep here. This is going to
Speaker 1: be ah fuck Kennell from Hell. I spoke too soon,
Speaker 1: Kennell from Hell match. I mean this is this is
Speaker 1: going to take two tremendous performers to make this work. Well,
Speaker 1: that ends that a Kennel from Hell match with Bill Goldberg.
Speaker 1: I mean it's already been buzzed. I'll finish the job
Speaker 1: here and just see who the opponent is. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter. Goldberg against Miro
Speaker 1: or Russev or whatever you want to call them in
Speaker 1: a kennel from hell, still giving it the buzzer, still
Speaker 1: giving it the buzzer. Fuck it. He's supposed to be retired.
Speaker 1: He's not supposed to be here. Brett would be. If
Speaker 1: it was Brett, I would have given it the bell.
Speaker 1: If it was Brett, I would have definitely given it
Speaker 1: the bell. Why would you put poor Brett through that? Though?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't want to be responsible for that.
Speaker 1: I'd never forgive myself death side. What's the worst thing
Speaker 1: that a woman could say to Jesus to kill the
Speaker 1: mood when they are performing The Beast with two backs?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the Beast with two backs? Okay, this
Speaker 1: journey called life? Where do you see Styles going from here?
Speaker 1: Since losing? I see him going into a rematch with
Speaker 1: Dominic in Paris because dom cheated, right, he hit him
Speaker 1: in the fucking head with a boot, So I think
Speaker 1: he's headed to a rematch. That's where I think he's headed.
Speaker 1: Look at Sammy. If Sammy's ame was in a dance competition,
Speaker 1: he would already be world heavyweight champion. Aila Tonight's ending
Speaker 1: had me screaming, screaming in a good way, screaming in
Speaker 1: a bad way, and it can mean different things. And
Speaker 1: Clone Forest ninety nine says, hey, solo, I haven't been
Speaker 1: on here in a minute because wrestling overall has burned
Speaker 1: me out, and I've only been seeing it on YouTube.
Speaker 1: And have you seen Cross's recent tweet? I have not,
Speaker 1: so I will very quickly, will very quickly go find
Speaker 1: Carrie and Cross's recent tweet. Let's see from two hours ago. Okay,
Speaker 1: so apparently this video that was mentioned before of people
Speaker 1: in the background chanting we want Cross and yes, apparently
Speaker 1: Triple H ponded off as we want Brock, which is
Speaker 1: fucking ludicrous. Cross quote tweeted it and says unreal. They
Speaker 1: write the scripts, but the fans write the truth. Thank you, TikTok. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's gone. I think he's gone.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look good, Uncle Gumbald. I blame this on
Speaker 1: Duff's VIDs. I curse you, mayor Marinara, never cling to
Speaker 1: your pasta. You got that from the Golden Girls. I
Speaker 1: know that, I know that that was the episode with
Speaker 1: Sophia and her sister from the Old Country Athletic Geek
Speaker 1: eighty nine. You also feel Brett Perfect King of the
Speaker 1: Ring ninety three is better than Summer Slim ninety one.
Speaker 1: I do, I do. I enjoyed their King of the
Speaker 1: Ring match more than their Summer Slim match. And Perfect
Speaker 1: was also physically in better shape than he was in
Speaker 1: ninety one because in ninety one going into that show
Speaker 1: he had the back injury. Isla says, screaming in a
Speaker 1: good way. See, That's why I asked, because there were
Speaker 1: a lot of people tonight screaming in a bad way,
Speaker 1: so I wanted to clarify it a good scream or
Speaker 1: a bad scream. This holy crap Solo remembers the exact
Speaker 1: Golden Girls episode. I do. I watched the entire series.
Speaker 1: It's a great show. Writing on that show is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Solo is a Golden Girl's mark. I am. I think
Speaker 1: one of the other Sophia jokes because she and her
Speaker 1: sister didn't get along and they were going back and
Speaker 1: forth with insults, and I think I think it was
Speaker 1: in that episode where Sophia had a line about may
Speaker 1: you pull your lip over your your head and swallow
Speaker 1: or something like that. RAF says, did you or will
Speaker 1: you do a BTS on how B to B is built?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if there's enough interest
Speaker 1: in that. I need to make some updates so I
Speaker 1: will be doing that, but I'm I'm undecided on that.
Speaker 1: Maybe something at some point for members, maybe members only.
Speaker 1: We've got besico. Can we never see the Three Amigo
Speaker 1: spot ever again? Yeah? You know, I think it's cool
Speaker 1: that all these wrestlers like to pay homage to Eddie Guerrero,
Speaker 1: But like now that everybody is doing the Three Amigos,
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, can we just keep it to
Speaker 1: like a few people so it's their thing. I do
Speaker 1: feel like almost everybody does it now. Devin from New
Speaker 1: Jersey by Rent and Sell, which walkout affected WWE, Moore,
Speaker 1: Austin and O two, Brock and O four or Punk
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. I think Brock and O four really
Speaker 1: really screwed up their plans. I mean they really pushed
Speaker 1: him to the moon and they were kind of building
Speaker 1: around him, and I do I do sometimes wonder when
Speaker 1: I get these questions like had he stuck around right?
Speaker 1: Because in five is where they crowned Sena and Batista,
Speaker 1: and they really gave the ball to Sena, but they
Speaker 1: separated them. One was on one show, the other guy
Speaker 1: was on the other show. If Brock sticks around and
Speaker 1: oh four, it changes everything. So I still think Sena
Speaker 1: ends up getting over and getting pushed, but it might
Speaker 1: be delayed a little bit. You know, maybe Batista doesn't
Speaker 1: get the push he gets. So I kind of want
Speaker 1: to go with Brock. I mean, not that Austin walking
Speaker 1: out wasn't a big deal. It was, but at that point,
Speaker 1: no too. It almost felt like they were kind of
Speaker 1: beyond the point where Austin walking out was like a
Speaker 1: killer for them. You know, I might be inclined to
Speaker 1: buy on Brock honestly, and then rent Austin and sell
Speaker 1: Punk Darth Panic. What is a Kennel from hell Match?
Speaker 1: So Kennel from Hell Match was thankfully just a one
Speaker 1: time thing. It was between Al Snow and the Big
Speaker 1: Boss Man. I believe it was unforgiven, right, it was
Speaker 1: it unforgiven September of ninety nine, and it was a
Speaker 1: traditional at the time. They had the blue bar steel cage,
Speaker 1: not this mesh stuff. So you had the regular steel cage,
Speaker 1: and they put the hell in a cell over the
Speaker 1: steel cage, and then in the space between the two cages.
Speaker 1: The idea was you would have these like rabid dogs.
Speaker 1: I think it was like Doberman's like guard dogs that
Speaker 1: would be barking and like ready to bite you, and
Speaker 1: they'd be running around and making noise. So like as
Speaker 1: a concept, it's kind of interesting, but then an execution,
Speaker 1: it just shit the bed and the dogs were I
Speaker 1: think the dogs were like congregating in one area only,
Speaker 1: and they were like peeing on the floor, and it
Speaker 1: was like it just didn't work. It didn't work in
Speaker 1: the way that they intended for it to work, so
Speaker 1: they never did it again. But it is one of
Speaker 1: the more infamous matches in WWA. BW Roses TNA's Bound
Speaker 1: for Glory got a plug at SummerSlam. Yes, the Hardy's
Speaker 1: and Dudley's match A Bound for Glory got a quick plug.
Speaker 1: On commentary by Michael Cole says that Jesus should win
Speaker 1: the intercontinental title. I'm telling you, man, it's it's beneath him.
Speaker 1: But then who beats him doesn't want to put anybody
Speaker 1: over Duff's VIDs. I got tired from my job at
Speaker 1: the autocorrect company. I got fried for no reason. Thank you, duffs.
Speaker 1: It's a fine way to go out. And Navy forty
Speaker 1: one eighty one Goldberg's retirement ruined Hogan passing away and
Speaker 1: McMahon's car accident. I have one pair of skinny jeans,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna wear them every week just to piss
Speaker 1: you off, Big Dave, Big Dave and his skinny jeans
Speaker 1: from the Hollywood Batista days. But Navy says Goldberg's retirement
Speaker 1: ruined Hogan passing away and McMahon's car accident. If I
Speaker 1: was on brett shit list, I would apologize pronto. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who else does Brett have an issue with? Terence pace Wwe?
Speaker 1: The moral high ground has always been Crater Crater? Do
Speaker 1: I say crater? This is crater? The moral high ground
Speaker 1: has always been Crater hm and doctor Scorpio says, with
Speaker 1: all this cancel culture stuff, wouldn't Jesus technically be considered
Speaker 1: the first victim of cancel culture. I'll show myself out please.
Speaker 1: Do you're proud of that one too, aren't you? I
Speaker 1: could see his smile from a mile away. Goldberg ain't
Speaker 1: leaving the house, says Connor. Well, Rollins is doing okay
Speaker 1: at least. I don't know if Rollins is on Brett
Speaker 1: shitless at least not anymore. I think he's okay, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I would definitely want to stay on Brett's good side anyway.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for a tremendous stream tonight. I know
Speaker 1: we had I don't know. I have somewhere between thirty
Speaker 1: five hundred and thirty eight hundred at one point I
Speaker 1: wasn't looking the entire time. We had a lot of
Speaker 1: people in here and a lot of support, a lot
Speaker 1: of new subs, a lot of new channel members. So
Speaker 1: thank you. I hope you enjoyed these two nights. It's
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Speaker 1: The audio for Night one of SummerSlam the review is
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Speaker 1: to get the audio for this out tomorrow. If you
Speaker 1: missed episode nine to twenty three. There was a full
Speaker 1: ass podcast that went up earlier today, not just talking SummerSlam,
Speaker 1: but talking the Vince McMahon car accident and a classic
Speaker 1: story from Jim Ross of riding with Vince McMahon, Cody
Speaker 1: Rhodes talking about the Bad Blood from his AW departure,
Speaker 1: talked about that WWE's list of the top twenty five
Speaker 1: SummerSlam matches, some other AW stuff as well, so go
Speaker 1: check out the podcast as well. I would very much
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Be well, stay safe. The next time I'm
Speaker 1: live here with you is in less than twenty four
Speaker 1: hours because we have the Raw post show tomorrow night,
Speaker 1: the post SummerSlam edition of Monday Night Raw. So that
Speaker 1: is where I will see you back here next. Until then,
Speaker 1: take care, guys,