WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.759 Hey everybody, Jim Cummings here. Welcome to my podcast, tuned 2 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:07.200 In with Jim Cummings. We have a great guest for 3 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:10.080 you today, but before we get to that, make sure 4 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:14.880 you like and subscribe. Our podcast has partnered with the 5 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:19.960 largest comic con in North America, fan Expo, the Juggernaut. 6 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:24.239 We're touring all over North America live, so get your 7 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:27.239 tickets and come be a part of the live audience. 8 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:31.480 It'll be fun. Go to FANEXPOHQ dot com for the tickets. 9 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:34.840 We'll see you in a city near you or a 10 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:37.359 little bit away, but you can drive. 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It's me Bunkers keep 22 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:22.439 Bobcat All right, y'all, did it rate your favorite firefly 23 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:23.439 you desire? 24 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:24.599 Holdo old knock Gud. 25 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:27.920 My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to Tuned In. 26 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:31.760 Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Tuned In with 27 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:34.400 Jim Cummings. I am producer Chris, joined as always by 28 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:36.799 the legend himself, mister Jim Cummings. How are you doing today, sir? 29 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:40.560 It's yet another day in paradise. It's sure andy, We're 30 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:41.319 here to prove it. 31 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:44.359 Stay tuned absolutely, and we have a great guest for 32 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:46.079 you today. But before we get to that, I have 33 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:48.920 a couple announcements to make. 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It's been 45 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:21.439 a great show. 46 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:22.800 Say hi, Yeah, we. 47 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:25.879 Just did one with Erica Durance from Smallville. That was great. 48 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:28.639 That was the biggest every week, every month, it just 49 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:29.759 gets bigger and bigger. 50 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:31.240 It's a little bigger and little big. 51 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:32.960 It's like two thousand people in the audience. 52 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:36.159 Yeah, yeah, it was amazing, and keep on coming. We'll 53 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:37.599 be looking for you. Thank you very much. 54 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:39.719 And I feel like that live show really adds like 55 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:42.159 to the dynamic of the podcast. You know, it's a 56 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:46.039 little different than here in the studio, but there's audience participation. 57 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:48.039 I mean you get to see it recorded live, it's 58 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:51.240 on YouTube the next week and obviously Apple and everything 59 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.599 like that. But yeah, I just really feel like there's 60 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:54.879 there's an energy about it. 61 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.719 Yeah, I agree. And there's very little nudity, so you 62 00:02:58.759 --> 00:02:59.400 can bring. 63 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.759 Minimal nudy, you don't very just come on. 64 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:03.400 Yeah. 65 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:05.439 But with all that said and done, we have a 66 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:10.680 very special guest for you today with I mean, looking 67 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:14.360 at your credits, I mean just incredible. I mean, over 68 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:18.800 four hundred voices. I'm probably lowballing that. I mean, just incredible. 69 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.000 We'll get all into it right now, none of the 70 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:22.520 than Michael Bell. Thank you so much. 71 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:25.319 Hey, guys, this is a treat. 72 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.479 Thank you, oh bless you, sir, Thank you very very 73 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:29.360 much for being here. 74 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:30.919 I was at as I told you, I was at 75 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:32.599 the straight of horror moves. I try to figure it 76 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:34.479 out and try to hear them out, and you. 77 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:38.000 Know, yeah, well you know those Horrmusians. 78 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:41.840 You knows exactly. And my Iranian is so bad. 79 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:46.439 Oh yeah, there's a joke in there about the planet 80 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.000 Uranus too. I understand you've heard. 81 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:52.240 A lot, a lot, and it's backfired on me a 82 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:52.879 couple of times. 83 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:56.639 Hey, but seriously, you kids are marvelous. Good night. 84 00:03:57.919 --> 00:03:58.800 How are you doing today. 85 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.479 I'm good, I'm good considering. Hey, you know, I'm as 86 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:06.000 I was telling him, I was telling you earlier. And 87 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:09.919 I hope this doesn't affect any future considerations for series. 88 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:14.400 But I'm eighty seven and and I wake up in 89 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:15.719 the morning and I get out of bed and. 90 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:17.439 I go nailed it. 91 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:19.160 So how good I am? 92 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:19.920 That's right? 93 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:23.879 And also when you consider the alternative wonder But seriously. 94 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:26.839 Yeah, yeah, well you've been You've been waking up for 95 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:28.360 a long time. You've been doing this. 96 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:31.360 I'm jumping out of bed doing my stuff, yea. And 97 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:34.439 I've been working on my impression of you, and I 98 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:35.639 still haven't nailed it. 99 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:38.160 Well, so am I and know? 100 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:39.759 But then I've worked on Yeah. 101 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.480 Yeah, I still can't do it. I still can't do it. 102 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:44.560 I watched him all during doing Dark Wing, and I'm 103 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.120 working on my stuff and I'm watching him, So I'm 104 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:48.680 gonna have to get to that sooner or later. 105 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:53.759 So that explains the animosity between Cuackerjack and Dark Wing. 106 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:57.000 That that was the basic reason it was so funny 107 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:58.600 when we did that. Was all sitting in like you 108 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.920 had your voice down, and we were all sitting online 109 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:03.920 and line and they got the scripts in front of us, 110 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:06.160 and they didn't tell us who we're playing in advance. 111 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:07.920 Oh really no. 112 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.680 So so when the scripts came down and I think 113 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:14.319 Dan cast I was on my right and I was 114 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:18.560 sitting there and they said, okay, Mike, you're doing your 115 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:22.199 character as tracker Jack. And I said, okay, I said, 116 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:24.639 I know what I'm gonna do. Do a Kirk Douglas 117 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:26.959 kind of thing. Because he's so crazy, I crack his voice, 118 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.079 you know, one of those. God, that's what I'll do. 119 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:34.079 But Dan's character was first, and that's what Dan did. 120 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:37.879 Now I was stuck. Now I had to come up 121 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:42.120 real quick with something generic. So I came with just 122 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.439 as wacky as sound as I possibly could. But I thought, here, 123 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:47.560 I'm working on this. I said, I know exactly where 124 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:49.680 I'm going to go with this guy. And that's what 125 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:51.360 they used to do. They'd say when you were like, 126 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:55.480 if you're if their character was first, and they happened 127 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:57.519 to do the farmer that you were going to do, 128 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:01.279 and the farmer number one. I'm ready and I'm Farmer 129 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:02.480 number two, and I know what I'm going to do, 130 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:03.519 and that was. 131 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:04.399 What I was going to do. 132 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:07.879 Farmer got another farmer. 133 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:09.959 Yes, oh my god. 134 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:12.839 So is there like a moment of anxiety in that. 135 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:17.879 Oh deep moment and those are our word depends because 136 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:19.600 I've never was quite sure if I was gonna be 137 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:21.920 able to hold an infanty. Somebody had a voice that 138 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.439 I was going to do the character I was going 139 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:25.639 to do. You just clenched. 140 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:28.120 I remember showing up at the voicecaster. This is such 141 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:34.120 inside ball. But speaking of William Shallard. He was, he was, 142 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:37.199 he was there and Percy Rodriguez showed up and he 143 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:40.279 and he said, oh great, I was gonna do you. 144 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:45.399 Person, oh with that that great voice. 145 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:49.240 Yes, yeah, yeah, anyway, Yeah, it's inside baseball there forgive us. 146 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:51.160 That's okay. You know they live love, they love it. 147 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:51.839 Don't they love it? 148 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:52.839 Don't you love it out there? 149 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:54.560 Think? 150 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.399 Yes he does? Oh my god. Yeah. 151 00:06:57.519 --> 00:06:59.879 So Jim was telling me that he's known you since 152 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:03.560 pretty much the day he got into the industry. 153 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:08.079 Very very the earth was cooling, yes, yes, that's so long. 154 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:08.319 He's know. 155 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:09.759 How about those dinosaurs? 156 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:12.959 Huh? Oh my god. Right yeah. And when she'd go 157 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:14.439 like this or that's not a. 158 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:24.079 Shore fitted and we were both old thank you. Yes, 159 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.519 we know the jingle from the Dinosaur Show. 160 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:31.279 People are going, who the heck isn Who's mom? 161 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:34.279 She was? She was? She was with Burt Reynolds. 162 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:38.279 This was Burt Ynolds. Jony remember Johnny Gerber I do. 163 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:41.879 Johnny Gerber was great voice person. And we were called 164 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:43.759 in to do some voices for a movie called The 165 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.160 Man who Loved Cat Litter, A Man who loved cat 166 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:50.240 dancing close and and and he was Van Reynolds and 167 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:53.120 it was his film and we just kept imitating him 168 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.079 and he didn't know it. So we knew he were different. 169 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:58.680 We knew that we as voice people, even though you know, 170 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:01.920 we had done someone camera I'm treating. But we knew 171 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:04.759 we were different because he never got us. He'd look 172 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:07.800 at us literally like he he like we were. We 173 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:10.399 came in to clean the studio. We were joking and 174 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:12.439 playing and doing voices and stick and he was off 175 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:18.920 on the side gun, you know, fixing his mustache. Yeah. Yeah. 176 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:21.480 I once I did a show with with with Tom 177 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:25.360 Kenny and and Uh and Uh, Peter and all these 178 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:29.680 great people, Carlos, Elis Rocky and Uh. And I convinced 179 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:34.840 everybody to do all of our characters as the character 180 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:40.480 doing William Shatner. Oh wow, the character doing William Shatner. 181 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:45.639 And we got there and I remember Peter Uh, our 182 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:51.480 producer writer, is it maybe? And you know, it just 183 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:54.639 could not have been more trepidacious. So we did about 184 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:57.639 three or four pages of it and he said, wait 185 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:58.840 a minute, we can't do this. 186 00:08:58.960 --> 00:08:59.960 Oh god, it's great. 187 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.799 We can't we can't do this. I was like, but 188 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:07.159 we're halfway through the show. Yeah, but it's it. No, No, 189 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:09.279 we just you know, it's funny, and I thought I 190 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:10.480 thought it was a great idea. 191 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:12.639 No, it's a great idea. It's a funny idea. 192 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:15.000 I don't want to gloss over like to me that 193 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:18.879 that is one of the quintessential talents of voice acting. 194 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:21.600 When I you know, when I was first getting into 195 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:25.000 it in college, I couldn't believe that people could imitate 196 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:28.240 in a character voice another person or character. 197 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:29.440 Oh yeah, I. 198 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:32.559 Mean there's the famous you know skit of bugs Bunny 199 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:36.159 imitating Elmer Fudd and Elmer Fudd imitating bugs Bunny when 200 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.679 it's the same person. How do you do that? Like, 201 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:41.480 how do you tune into that? It's it's incredible. 202 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:44.519 I got to work with Meil Blank, Yes, a long 203 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:49.039 time ago. It's a long story. So any event, when 204 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.159 I teach and you teach voice, and I teach voice 205 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:54.759 over the kids, and I say, plagiar eyes, don't shage 206 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:57.799 your eyes. It's why God made your eyes. So if 207 00:09:57.799 --> 00:10:02.159 you plage yourise, it's still yours. It's your algorithm, even 208 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:05.679 though it's the actor. Even though I mean, I used 209 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:08.919 to do Jack Palance when I met Jack Polance because 210 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:13.120 I worked for him and yeah, that kind of always 211 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:17.759 had a had asthma, and his laugh was it was 212 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:20.039 really creepy, really awful. 213 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:22.440 And I wound up. 214 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:25.039 Listening to him saying, I'm going to do that. I'm 215 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:27.279 gonna do that. That's my next bad guy, my next 216 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:31.159 black hat. That's chance to do him. And they said, 217 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:33.559 where'd you come up with it? I said, it's just 218 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:36.240 something that I would Jack Palance, I came. 219 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:38.320 Up with it. Well, I have a mini philosophy that 220 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:41.639 if you do a terrible impression of somebody really famous, 221 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:43.559 nobody knows who it is, you have a new character. 222 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:47.279 Yes, you got a new kyes you do. Yeah, And 223 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:49.960 I do mostly bad imitations, so I've always got a 224 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.559 new character. I made lots me. 225 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:57.440 Too, and and and if you put two characters together, 226 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:00.639 and then you have a new character, like yeah, one 227 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.440 of my favorite guys is guy from Star Wars, Hondo 228 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:07.519 and Knock. I've told this before, and he is. He 229 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:13.200 is Charles Bronson and Juel Brenner put together. Now they'd 230 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:14.840 have an ugly kid. 231 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:19.320 Yes, but if you'll forgive me, that's a butt baby, 232 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:20.799 that's a baby. 233 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:22.519 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did. 234 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:24.080 I haven't heard that turn. 235 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.440 So long, that's a but baby. But he'd looked like 236 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:32.279 Hondo and sounded like Hondo. So there you go. Tell 237 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:33.960 no one what you have learned here today. 238 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:36.240 Well, speaking of Star Wars, I heard a great story 239 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:39.360 that you told on another podcast about your involvement in 240 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:42.279 Star Wars oh and seeing it for the first time. 241 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:43.559 Do you mind sharing that story? 242 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.200 I really can. I really, I really know. I really 243 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.759 got my finger on the post, don't I. I once 244 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.200 told Jack Nicholson to get out of the business. Yes, 245 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:54.759 And we were in class together. And I've seen him 246 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:57.360 in a film. I think it was a horror. 247 00:11:57.039 --> 00:12:00.759 Film, something thirteen, wasn't it, like the pro or so 248 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:05.120 the Ravens call off and Jack Nicholson's got tights on 249 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:08.240 it and he and legs like a stork and he's 250 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:09.840 running around with his hair has combed down. 251 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:12.679 And then I saw him driving in his car. We 252 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:14.879 were driving it and ilean, I said Jack, and he 253 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:17.840 waved and I said, I said, I saw the raven. 254 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:20.519 I said, don't give up your day job, and he 255 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.320 went like that, you know, and don't I know it? 256 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:24.000 Do I? 257 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:26.360 Did I predict his future? Did I not predict his? 258 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.759 The thing the same thing with Star Wars. Lucas called 259 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:29.960 me in. 260 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:31.279 He didn't know me. 261 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:33.360 I came from the Asian obviously, and I went in 262 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:34.639 and he said, I want to show you what we're doing, 263 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:38.440 and he ran the dailies and I looked at it, 264 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:40.759 and he must have seen my face because I see 265 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:43.559 these guys with flashlights. It's obviously before they have the 266 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:47.240 little thing whatever, and they go, well, then I'm going 267 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.720 and one kid's a surfer and the other one is 268 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:55.759 this guy who I thought was very stiff, and I went, wow, okay, 269 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:58.480 and he looked at me and said, it's an action picture. 270 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:02.399 It's not an acting picture, and he said okay, I 271 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:04.360 don't know what that means, but sure. And then I 272 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:06.279 see Alec Guinness has the thing, and I said great. 273 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:08.919 So I start to do the voices that he asks 274 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:11.519 me to do. Would you replace this guy? So it's 275 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:14.440 a guy at the council and he says something to 276 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:18.120 Darth Vader, and Darth Vader goes and the guy starts going. 277 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:19.320 Oh that guy. 278 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:21.919 Yeah. So after he does, I said, okay, I did it. 279 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:25.200 I said, can I make suggestion to you? I didn't 280 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:27.679 even know who Lucas was. That's how much I knew, 281 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.360 and I said, why don't you leave him alone? He's good, 282 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:33.639 he's doing a nice job. And he said, well he's British. 283 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:36.480 I said, well, so far everybody I'm seeing his British. 284 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:38.399 And he said, you think he's that good. 285 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:42.399 I said yeah, I want to work find. 286 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:43.879 Somebody for him, because they had asked you to dub 287 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:45.120 his va, to dub. 288 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:47.399 His voice, and I said, he's really good. So he 289 00:13:47.960 --> 00:13:51.279 left him in and I thought, this film, please, And 290 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.840 then so then they said. Then they said, this other guy, 291 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.919 this older dude out in the talking to Princess Laura 292 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:01.679 or whatever my name is up so they're talking to her, 293 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:03.080 and I said, yea, I'll do him. 294 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:03.919 I gotta work. 295 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:05.559 I do his waist down a bunch of the guys 296 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:08.200 and they're playing, going, oh I've been shot. Oh gow up, 297 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.799 I'm dying. Okay, I'm over here to the red et cetera. 298 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:14.360 And then I leave. And then years later, a year later, 299 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:16.200 two years, whatever it is, I'm with a bunch of 300 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.159 buddies and they said, we're gonna go see Star Wars 301 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.279 at Gramin's Chinese and I said, I'm out, not doing it. 302 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:25.240 I saw that not I loved sci FI, but that's 303 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:28.200 you know, it's coca. And they went, come on, Mike, 304 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.000 Come on, Mike, and they dragged me and we've got 305 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:33.039 on the line. I'm standing in line and the guy 306 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:36.000 starts passing the joint around and I'm going, I'm gonna 307 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:42.440 need this, okay, fine, watch it sat down started. After 308 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:45.080 it was over, they said whoa, and I went whoa. 309 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:48.120 They said, what force did you do? I said, I'm 310 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:52.360 got a freaking clue. That was great. I have no idea. 311 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:55.759 Years and I had never seen it after that until 312 00:14:55.919 --> 00:15:01.440 years later, until I started stopped getting or never got residuals. Oh, 313 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:04.919 never got residuals, never got as bad. Went to the agent, 314 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:08.559 went to the agent and said, it's been a while 315 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:12.799 and I never got They contacted the company, and the 316 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:16.759 company said, prove that you did it. Oh, And this 317 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.120 is what eleven years later, because it never occurred to me. 318 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:23.320 I mean, I had, you know, like you, the garage 319 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:26.879 full of contracts that I finally had to shred because 320 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:29.600 I couldn't get my car in. That was the one 321 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:32.799 I the one I shouldn't have shred. Wow, because I 322 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:34.639 did have a contract. Said, but I got a contract. 323 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:37.559 It proves that residuals, because I never got I never 324 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:41.159 did anything without residuals. Sure, once they came into into 325 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:44.679 being in seventy one, seventy two something like that, and 326 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:46.200 they didn't want to go to the didn't want to 327 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:47.559 go to court, and they said, well, if we go 328 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:49.320 to court, we'll kill you. 329 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:53.480 Yeah yeah, yeah, good luck, good luck, good luck. Let 330 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:55.039 me we'll be right here. 331 00:15:55.320 --> 00:16:00.600 Yeah. Yeah, So that's that's my story. 332 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:03.279 Oh baby, I could have bought this block. 333 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:12.039 Yeah, instead you did it with two words butter butter. 334 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:14.879 I knew, I knew. I didn't have to say much 335 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:16.480 to our gay Yeah. 336 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:18.519 I call my house lost with sidualities. 337 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:23.639 Yeah, that's right. Is that loose? That that was? That 338 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:27.600 was a famous story going around the community. You know, 339 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:29.799 you know, Michaels Michael's house. 340 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:32.200 But that's right. 341 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:35.559 And for for those of you out of the loop, 342 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:38.919 this was a parquet Butter commercial, big, big commercial for 343 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:40.039 you in the eighties. 344 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:44.519 Oh yeah, they had there. There was those articles and things. 345 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:48.399 And I was on television when when it was Entertainment Tonight, 346 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:51.960 and I wound up having to go to the set 347 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:55.480 to do it. And because they said, now you want 348 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:58.600 to do to work with the people and work with 349 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.600 people who are now gone who did on camera stuff. 350 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:03.440 And I had to sit there and off camera, and 351 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:06.279 I had a little machine that I would move so 352 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:09.559 that the lid would go like that better and I 353 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:16.079 go better. Packay, So how is language used on your 354 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:18.880 on your language? 355 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:22.720 It's a little bit of okay, okay, a little bit okay. Yeah, yeah, 356 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:25.119 I mean you know, okay, it's not gonna be. 357 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:27.519 You can get a couple of words in there. 358 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.240 We don't go full mcplain okaya. 359 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.400 Oh I got wait, my hair's turning white thinking about it. 360 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:38.720 So we had room where there was a couple of 361 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:41.240 kids came in and they were and they were at 362 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:43.319 the table and they're making breakfast for mom. Oh yeah 363 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:46.480 and uh and they said, okay, go ahead, can I 364 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:48.480 do the thing with butter paquet? And the kids laugh 365 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:51.079 and it's okay. But by the second and third take 366 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:56.079 the kids going and it's terrible. So the director doesn't 367 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:58.200 know what to do. And I said, let me get 368 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:00.880 onto the table. I know this sounds gross, but I 369 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.200 get under the table and these two little patent leather 370 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:06.079 feet are kicking and I said, okay, roll it, and 371 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:08.359 they roll it and he goes let's make mommy breakfast. 372 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:11.200 They go, okay, make mommy breakfast, and then lid goes 373 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:16.359 better and I went kakapopo. Well, they weren't expecting and 374 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:19.240 they broke up. They got a sugar. The second time 375 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:23.200 they go they started again, I went pepecaca. Oh god, 376 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:25.799 they fell apart and I went pepe cocka doo doo. 377 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:28.079 No matter what I could do, just to keep it that. 378 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:32.319 They were hysterical. We got take after take after take 379 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:35.319 because they something funny was gonna come up. Yeah, we 380 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:38.400 break for lunch. Oh, and I'm standing and I'm talking 381 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:41.119 to the assistant director and the director comes over and 382 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:45.640 he says, their mother of the girls is at the 383 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:48.200 other end of the studio and I look and she's 384 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:50.519 a block away and I see her setting like this, 385 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:54.559 and I said, what is it? And they said, she 386 00:18:54.680 --> 00:18:57.599 doesn't like that language and she doesn't want to use 387 00:18:57.640 --> 00:18:59.480 that and used to use that language for the kids. 388 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:04.839 And I said, oh, well, how about I say coxsup, motherfucker? 389 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:09.000 And he asked me, said you really want me to 390 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:11.759 tell her that? And I said yes, yes. So he 391 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:12.799 walks to length. 392 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:13.160 And I watched him. 393 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:16.839 She's like this, waiting and he's leans in there, and 394 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:27.839 he goes and she goes. Anyway, she walked off. I 395 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:30.440 got to do cock a poopoo doo dooo. Keep keeping 396 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:32.000 through the rest of the day. 397 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:36.680 Oh okay, ding ding ding ding ding ding. Oh man, 398 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:40.319 that's doitch now you you put that in your book, right, 399 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:42.920 I mean, how to break into voiceover, how. 400 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:43.640 To break in the worse over? 401 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:47.319 Sure? Absolutely, I remember that book you have. You wrote 402 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:47.759 a book. 403 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.039 No no, not me, oh not you, No, not me? 404 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:53.000 No, but your name was ont of somewhere No no, 405 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:57.400 probably Pat Frailey. No, I mean would sell. 406 00:19:57.680 --> 00:19:59.200 So who's going to buy Pat Frayley? 407 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:03.880 Yeah, uh yeah, maybe his kids. 408 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:05.920 Do you guys remember the first time you met? 409 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:07.920 Well, I do, he doesn't. 410 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:09.799 No, I don't see. 411 00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:10.640 Everything's a blur. 412 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:14.640 Told you no, it was uh we were at B 413 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:19.519 and B Studio and you were Burger, yes, Barber Burger 414 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:22.960 and uh and you were sitting there and Jenny McSwain 415 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:26.759 was sitting there and and it was probably a Monday. 416 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:30.480 Came in and and she goes, oh, and we're getting ready. 417 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.799 I think I think it was dark Wing. Probably, yeah, 418 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:36.640 it might have been dark Wing And uh. 419 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:37.559 Oh no, that's not right. 420 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:41.759 Because I ended up doing before. But anyway, well we 421 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:45.400 were we were there for whatever reason. Yeah, and uh 422 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:48.640 and uh and she goes, oh there he is, Hey commings, 423 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:51.079 what's up, Hodshot, how's it going? What it what it 424 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:56.599 got any new stuff together? And I go, uh, yeah, 425 00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:59.720 I had this audition the other week and and it 426 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:03.440 turned I just got a phone call that I got. Uh, 427 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:08.359 I got Winny the Poop whoa, and and you went, whoa, yeah, 428 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:13.400 and she goes and he turns and you turned her 429 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:18.319 and you go, he got Winny the Pool. You know, 430 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:22.319 Pool hadn't been around for twenty five years. And I 431 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:24.400 was saying, well, no, they're well they're bringing them back, 432 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:30.039 they're bringing them back. Yeah, And I get to beat 433 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:35.799 Tigger when Paul Winchell's out of town. No, that doesn't 434 00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:38.000 sound right, and I go, well, of course it is. 435 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:42.039 He goes, he got Tigger too when Paul Winchell's out 436 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:44.400 of town. And I just it was just one of 437 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:47.480 those things that only Michael Bellan. And of course Jenny, 438 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:48.839 you're foil Jenny. 439 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:52.079 Of course you know we still see Jenny. 440 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:52.920 Yes we do. 441 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:55.680 She was on the podcast not too long ago. 442 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:59.839 Did you clean the mics? No, issues. 443 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:03.279 Yeah, well I do, and yes we. 444 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.359 Clean either that or back home than one of the two. 445 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:11.200 Yeah something. Oh my gosh, that's funny. Oh that's funny. 446 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:13.200 Well we all had a crush on Jenny, that's for sure. 447 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:16.119 That's so funny. And but yeah, that was that was 448 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:19.960 Those were great days. And she uh and I used 449 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:22.400 to say that we're Halli con days and she goes, oh, 450 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:26.480 you're such a guber from Ohio. It's Helsy And I 451 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:31.599 thought it was Ali g No, that's some actress Hallie, 452 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:34.480 you know, no, man. 453 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:36.000 She changed it to Ali Berry. 454 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:37.119 Yeah. Probably. 455 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:41.039 Well, another project you guys both worked on was tail Spin. 456 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:48.160 If I'm not mistaken, tail Spin, where you play. 457 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:50.960 Memory is great, you know. He he probably has a 458 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:54.119 great memory because I people say, remember when you did 459 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:56.799 the voice of it? And I said, I don't remember. 460 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:02.039 Don't have a clip that I don't get. I don't, 461 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:04.200 I don't, I don't And then they do it for 462 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:06.119 me and I still don't get it. 463 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:09.079 Yeah, they do it for you badly. Thank god, it's 464 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:13.119 very badly. But yeah, I was Don Carnage on Telsman 465 00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:17.519 and a couple of I was King Louis, which I 466 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:19.160 was my favorite thing. 467 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:22.200 Now dark Wing, of course, dark Wing of Dodwing is real, 468 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:24.160 real clear. Smurfs is clear for me. 469 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:26.480 Smurfs, let's talk about it. Smurfs. 470 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:30.240 Yeah, for g I Joe, I was doke for g 471 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:34.160 I Joe, Smurs is handy, lazy and that incredibly cool jacket. 472 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:36.880 It's my jacket. It's my jacket. Is my jacket? 473 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:38.759 Did we show the people that you know? You know? 474 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:44.079 I make friends so quick to see m j the 475 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:50.119 other day at the Panchag Yeah, which was station. Oh 476 00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:52.880 my god, I've heard I would like to see this 477 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:55.240 kid that does it. The two kids are three kids 478 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:58.279 that played them at different stages of his life. Did 479 00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:02.240 anybody ever move like that other than Michael Jackson? Did anybody? 480 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:04.160 But what so great was he took? Now this is 481 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.680 great about don't chage your eyes. That's why God maje 482 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:10.599 your eyes when I they played your eyes. He had 483 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:12.799 they showed during the curtain, the curtain that came down. 484 00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:16.640 It had his notes and the notes was watch Fred Astaire, 485 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:23.519 watch what's his name from Chicago? Bob Fosse. Bob Fosse 486 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:26.519 watched all these movies and he lists all the movies. 487 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:28.640 This was his notes all the movies, all the great 488 00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:32.160 musicals and the dancers and then Nicholas brothers from way 489 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:35.519 back when the Nicholas were the early movies. That's and 490 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:38.160 he watched them and that's how he designed his all 491 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:41.440 his his new approach to dance to music, because up 492 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:43.240 to them it was just rock and pot. You know, 493 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:45.839 he was doing great stuff, but it wasn't what made 494 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:48.240 him the super guy. May wait, this is my jacket. 495 00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:53.720 This is my wife and daughter got it for me 496 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.039 as a gift because when they gave to us, brought 497 00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:58.599 it out that the studio gave to us. Just literally 498 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:01.000 chair if you want. And you know what's funny is 499 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:05.920 that Frank Welker never ever wore his until I started 500 00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:07.440 Wear of Mind and I saw him in a recent 501 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:11.200 at the Megatron event. I saw him a Megatron and 502 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:13.920 he said, I went wore other jackets who he did 503 00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:17.559 a whole thing. Yeah, had his jacket, Frank, Frank, Frank, 504 00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:19.359 I said, I want your jacket when you die because 505 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:21.960 I can make a fortune on eBay with that thing. 506 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:26.039 Will that's so nice to for you to volunteer that day. 507 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:28.759 Yeah, because I'm very I'm very practical. 508 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:30.440 Yeah, yeah, practical guy. 509 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:32.079 I think in those think in those terms. 510 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:34.200 You know, yeah, so is he never got married? 511 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:39.519 Yes, I know, but but yeah, yeah, he's what's the 512 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:42.839 joke there, he Well, if you never get married, you 513 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:45.960 never get divorced. Not only that, you don't have Yeah, 514 00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.519 no alimony, there's none of that stuff. Yea. Also he 515 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:53.400 catted around a lot. I mean I was single, I 516 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:53.960 was single. 517 00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:55.200 Were worried about Frank? 518 00:25:55.400 --> 00:26:00.279 Yeah, I'm Frank just is dating everybody that walked. Yeah. 519 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:05.759 But the funny thing about Frank is gentle, sweet, nice guy. 520 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.799 You know, he's just one of those guys you want 521 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:11.599 in case you're in an accident. You want him there 522 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.480 because he's really wonderful. And our friend Jony Gerber, one 523 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.000 of the top voice ladies in the business, said, I 524 00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:21.559 suspect that Frank has a hefty bag for the teenage 525 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:22.839 parts in his guard I knew it. 526 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.319 I knew it. S're gonna say, I've seen him. 527 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.920 So nice, he was so nice, we live next door, 528 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.920 A sweet guy. And then until he uncover all this, 529 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.039 but he was also Kujo and he was Kujo. Yes 530 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:37.119 he was Kujo. 531 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:39.720 Just saying he was Kujo. 532 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:43.039 If you're a fan of everything we do here at 533 00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:45.880 tuned In with Jim Cummings. You could support the show 534 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:50.599 on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts, as well as early 535 00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:54.680 in ad free access to the show itself, prize drawings, 536 00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.799 and more. You'll feel the difference, so go ahead and 537 00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:01.759 join the tuned in family today at patreon dot com 538 00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:04.079 slash Jim Cummings Podcast. 539 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:07.920 Do it now. I remember, Frank. I remember we were 540 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:10.559 doing I don't know if it wasn't a Smurks. We 541 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:15.519 were doing a Ace Space Ace or something and we 542 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.400 had to be land in water and h the director 543 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:24.079 at the time, said he was Hunt and he said 544 00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:26.640 Gordon Gordon, and he was Gordon. He said something yes. 545 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.200 Gordon said, okay, Mike, we have to talk underwater here. 546 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:35.240 So I said, okay, great, this is easy, this is 547 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:38.680 no problem. So what do I know? He uses real water, 548 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:39.920 So I this is what I did. 549 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:45.279 I went, oh, what did I do that? 550 00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:52.039 I'll get it. Gordon, Yeah, I'm sorry, At which point 551 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.880 Frank he says to Frank, Frank, your character also with him, 552 00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.640 talks underwater, why don't you try first? And of course 553 00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:05.720 Frank goes exactly and I said, yeah, Frank, why didn't 554 00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:08.599 you suggest to me that I do it's because it 555 00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:10.279 was so much fun watching you drown. 556 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:17.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, see I thought I invented that that 557 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.960 underwater thing, but I guess not, but Frank probably did. 558 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:22.200 Hey probably, so you do it? 559 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.079 Yeah, well that could be. Yeah, that's you know, plagi. 560 00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.279 Your eyes, don't shade your eyes. I tell everybody if 561 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:29.680 somebody else does something great, I think for years I 562 00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.519 used to go like this. I did movies with Jony Gerber. 563 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.480 We used to do Mexican films. We used to dub 564 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:39.680 Mexican films, you see with the yeah, with the with 565 00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:44.359 the wrestlers with the yeah, that's used to dub them. 566 00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:46.519 And one of them was a ghost and they said, okay, Mike, 567 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:49.200 you're gonna be the ghost. Iing, Oh, I don't know 568 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:52.799 whatever the hell that was. They bought it, and I 569 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:54.519 tell people going to try it if you see if 570 00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:54.960 it works. 571 00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:55.839 Wow. 572 00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:58.319 Wow, this is a question for both of you. Guys. 573 00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:00.359 This just makes what you just said makes me think 574 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.119 of this. Do you feel like there's any character voice 575 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:06.640 that you've gotten away with if that makes sense. You know, 576 00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.839 you tried something very off the wall and you were 577 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.480 surprised that they liked it. 578 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:13.759 Yeah, but what was you. 579 00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:18.240 What was your The first one that comes to mind, Uh, well, 580 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:28.279 either Lieutenant's Binelli on Chippadale's Rescue Rangers because it was 581 00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:35.920 my aunt Grace or and I've used this, I was going. 582 00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.240 To hear the voice for the for the wow the. 583 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.440 Lieutenant's been out, like you know what I was trying 584 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:46.160 to tell you, guys, it's don't forget to remember you know, 585 00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:48.400 that's the first thing that you want to do. 586 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:49.960 It's your aunt san Yeah. 587 00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.960 Yeah, and God rest her soul, you know. The other 588 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:55.960 the one was my uncle saying. 589 00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:58.000 Oh no, that that I would always expect to be great. 590 00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:01.000 Yeah that I've said, that's not getting away with anything. 591 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:01.720 That's wonderful. 592 00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.640 Yeah, that's that's awful saying. But that was how he talked. 593 00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:06.839 Well, I did an Aunt Pauline. I did my Aunt 594 00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.960 Pauline from Brooklyn, from New York. And it was one 595 00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.440 of those things that Hannah Barbara I was a ranger 596 00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:16.200 and I'm talking to the character and I said, oh 597 00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.119 you do that. Don't you ever talk to me like 598 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.079 that and get out of the park because you're not 599 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.400 staying here. And I thought, they're not going to buy this, 600 00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:27.240 and so we like that Mike, they keep with you. Okay, 601 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.200 good aunt, Pauline, thank you very much wherever you are. 602 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:35.160 Yeah, you've done that too. Then you've stolen like your 603 00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:36.759 like your school teachers, and. 604 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:42.559 You're absolutely just that's that's that's the concept of plagiarizing. 605 00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:47.920 It's family, friends, people that sound a certain way. Doesn't 606 00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:49.839 have to be celebrities. Won't sue you. 607 00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:52.079 Perhaps I won't sue you. 608 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.759 Always good, Yes, Katherine Epperny Davis. I did what's her name? 609 00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:01.920 Who is the famous chef Julia? I've done Julia child 610 00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:05.720 for a commercial. They were casting only women. They wanted 611 00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:08.319 Julia Charles and none of the women then could do 612 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.160 Julia Childs. And so I said, why don't you let 613 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.240 me audition for it? The agency said they just want women. Well, 614 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:16.039 just say Michelle Bell. 615 00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:18.519 So I did this. 616 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.519 Thing for Ford show Fabular string. 617 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:24.720 I'm gonna do the whole thing. And I made it 618 00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:26.599 sound like she was eating. 619 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.279 So I'm sure when the steering wheelers just got the 620 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:36.599 turbino engine, wonderful and they bought it wow, and I did, 621 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:39.240 I said, whoa okay, guys now? 622 00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:43.240 And I was studying Betty Davis. I was studying and 623 00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:43.839 I studied. 624 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.759 That's great, what a great idea. 625 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:50.880 Yeah, I mean multi, I'm sure multiple voice actors a 626 00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:54.160 whole this opinion. But somebody we had on a podcast, 627 00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:56.640 I can't remember who. Maybe it was Jess Harnell. I 628 00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.279 think maybe it might have been Jess, but he was saying, 629 00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.839 you know, if you're trying to get into voiceover whatever, 630 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.720 don't only do impressions of, you know, the same sex, 631 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:08.400 do impressions of the opposite because that adds a little twist, 632 00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:08.720 you know. 633 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.240 Yeah, absolutely well. Joni taught me that. Jordi Gerber, she 634 00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.400 did it's the crowd as much too young. But Georgie Jessel, 635 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.079 the famous Georgie Jessel, who was the toast Master General, 636 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:25.079 and he had a leaky eye, and she would say, hello, 637 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.240 this is Georgina Jess. I'm my eyes leaking. I'm sorry, sorry, 638 00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.519 and my metals are rusting, but I would like to 639 00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.319 say to you, you know, and that's exactly what he's 640 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.759 and she and I said, you can do that, then 641 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.200 I'm gonna play women. I'm gonna do women's voices. I'm 642 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:41.759 not I'm not gonna do anybody out of a job, 643 00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:43.559 but you know, if I can do it, I'm gonna 644 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.279 give it. So I would do Betty Davis for a character. 645 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.559 I did one for an on camera. I did one 646 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.559 a iron size with uh, oh wow, when I was 647 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.480 guest staring on Iron and I did it guy kind 648 00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.880 of like that, Oh you're such a fool, you know. 649 00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.880 I did not just not over the top, but he was. 650 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.000 He ran an improv group and one of the members 651 00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.440 got killed. And so I was doing doing this and 652 00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.640 I said to uh at the time, to the star 653 00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.240 of the show, Raymond Burr, he said, Raymond, can, I'm 654 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.519 going to do something with this guy. He's just not 655 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:19.440 over the top when you go with it, And he 656 00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.799 said go and I said great. So I said, so, 657 00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:27.279 what's your name as the character? And then he says, 658 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.359 I said, oh, you're very cute. And I jumped in 659 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:35.680 his lap and he wheeled off and he wheeled off 660 00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:39.440 and he reeled and the director standard director, now you're great, 661 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:41.279 and he's looking at he goes. 662 00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:43.319 What the hell is that? 663 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:46.599 What is that? Wait a minute, I don't see that here, 664 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.680 and he and I laughing, But I continued with the 665 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.319 character without him willing off, and I paid him just 666 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.519 slightly running this acting group. Okay, really, you know, not 667 00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.200 not on the nose, just enough to make him a 668 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.880 little bit right like he does. He does impressions, but 669 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:07.960 he doesn't think he's gay, right right, He's just pleased, 670 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.039 just please to have to do that. And the shoulder house, 671 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:14.760 that's another thing. You know, you ask about it because 672 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.840 you've got a really good You've got a good announcers voice. 673 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:20.440 God knows y, Yeah, really good voice. That's the thing 674 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.079 I said when people say to when you do it, 675 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.679 don't And I watch him too. You don't stand there 676 00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:29.639 with your hands on your sides. You really you are 677 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.519 doing on camera to some degree, and that's going to 678 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:35.440 help you motivate there. Because if I'm playing a good guy, 679 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:37.880 I stand with both feet on the floor knowing I'm 680 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:39.960 never going to get this on character. Care I never 681 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.480 played this on character. I'll never be that character. But 682 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:46.079 I stand there and I think John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, 683 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.519 you know, one of the guys, Ryan Reynolds, whomever. And 684 00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:51.920 I stand there like that, and I think in those terms, 685 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:54.840 and I get my eyes on that level and I 686 00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.679 stay there. And if I'm playing a weasly character, I 687 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.760 just immediately creep into him get small again like this 688 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.360 and do all that stuff. So if it's on camera, 689 00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.239 you would see that. But it helps me and it 690 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:09.599 helps me build that character and that the same thing. 691 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.199 Yeah, Jim, you've talked about that multiple times, especially with 692 00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:13.880 Pooh and Tier. 693 00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:19.559 I remember entertainment Tonight came way back during the very 694 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.920 very very first first season of Winny the Pooh, the 695 00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.800 New Adventures Whinny the Pooh, and and I was and 696 00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:30.239 they were behind me, and I was doing Winny the Pooh, 697 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:33.480 and I realized and before the sound came on, I 698 00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:35.880 knew I was doing Pooh because I stood there and 699 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.239 my stomach was back. And then when when I was 700 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:41.039 doing Tiggerves, I was there and I didn't even know 701 00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:43.039 I was doing it. You do it, but you just 702 00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:44.039 you just do that. 703 00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.159 It's you know when they say you're voice acting, Yeah, yeah, 704 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.119 but you're acting, right, Yeah, You're still on camera, no 705 00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:51.679 matter what happens, You're still on camera. 706 00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.320 Still have that Yeah, it's like Jess Harnell says, voice 707 00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.599 acting is very small V but a capital A. Yeah. 708 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:01.639 Okay, cool, I like that. That's not that's good, that's good. 709 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:02.280 Yeah. 710 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:04.159 I remember doing when we did the when we do 711 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.000 the Smurfs and we had to do all. I played 712 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.800 three characters on Handy, lazy, and grouchy, and I remember 713 00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:11.760 what we had to do it It was it was 714 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:16.280 adjusting to those different characters and making them smaller and 715 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.320 be smaller, because if I was lazy, I would do 716 00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.400 this kind of thing and just yeah, just whatever it was. 717 00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:23.320 And if I was you know, handy or are we 718 00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:26.360 doing that Papa Smurf now and I'm back here, Browchi, 719 00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:29.519 I was really whatever the heck it was. You get 720 00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:34.239 into that. Except after one night. One night actually was 721 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.920 when I first met my wife, Victoria, Victoria caw and 722 00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:41.639 uh uh. She was the first date, and she'd come 723 00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:44.719 to my house up on the hill. This is before, 724 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.519 you know, before I bought this one and uh and 725 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:51.880 We're sitting watching Peter Seller's movie and I'm getting hungry. 726 00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.199 It was the first date, and I'm nervous and we're 727 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.280 sitting beautiful, beautiful woman and she's sitting watching televis me 728 00:36:57.599 --> 00:36:59.480 and I said, would you like something to do? She said, no, 729 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.280 I I don't do anything like that on the first date. 730 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.840 I never eat food, really, she said, Okay, don't want 731 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.320 to look human. I just want to look the way 732 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.320 I look said okay. So I went inside and I 733 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:12.840 got and I got my uh and I got my 734 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.039 banana bread that the friend had given me, and I 735 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:16.920 took a slice and toasted it and came back in 736 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:20.280 and ate it. I started a little dizzy and feeling 737 00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:24.960 a little strange, so I thought maybe I need more food. 738 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.000 So I went in and another slice of banana bread 739 00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:28.920 and toasted it up, and came back and sat down. 740 00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.559 And I was sitting there and she started a comment 741 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:35.159 on the movie with Peter Sellers, and she said, isn't 742 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.199 this great? He's such a wonderful He's such a talent. 743 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:40.679 But it was like, this is me great, he's such 744 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:41.360 a talent. 745 00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:44.360 And I went, oh great, what is she doing? 746 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.119 Why is she doing that? I thought, oh my god, 747 00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:51.639 I'm stoned. Oh my god. She said I really love 748 00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.679 Peter selling I thought, oh, oh, I'm dying here. So 749 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:56.480 I go in the kitchen and I called my friend. 750 00:37:56.519 --> 00:38:00.400 I said, the banana bread you gave me or anything 751 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.320 in She was curious. She said, it's green. I told 752 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:05.400 you it was green. I thought I thought it was 753 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:09.159 green bananas. What are you talking about? It was? She 754 00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:13.239 put in a lid and I ate half the banana bread. 755 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.559 So I said to Victoria at that, I said, okay, 756 00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:20.159 excuse me. She said what I said, I'll be right back. 757 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:21.239 I left. 758 00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:24.719 I came back just in my took off all my clothes, 759 00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:28.400 of course, put on a towel into my pool. I 760 00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.679 thought I'd swim it off in the dark. I said, 761 00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:33.639 I'm gonna swim this off. And I'm swimming, and all 762 00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:41.519 of a sudden, my imagination I'm going and I saw 763 00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:44.280 that fin. I saw that fin cutting through the dark 764 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:48.760 borders of my pool. I got immediately out, exactly, I 765 00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:51.800 mean wrapped, and I just sat in this and I 766 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.360 had a sum room and just seeing that, she came 767 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.519 and she said, you okay. So I'm so sorry Stone. 768 00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:01.039 And it was a terrible night, really sick. Next morning, smurfs, 769 00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.760 I work with my sunglasses. 770 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:08.480 Come on the seats lined up in front of it, 771 00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:10.039 and we start off with. 772 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.199 The song Oh. 773 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.840 Jesus, and I hear this in my voice my ear, 774 00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:19.840 and I'm dying that delight. 775 00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.679 I am dying all morning long, and nobody everybody's looking. 776 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:25.960 I mean, the thing, why you got sunglasses? My eyes 777 00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:28.400 my hurt, my eyes hurt. Yeah, And it was just 778 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.599 all morning well, what are we doing now, bob? Oh? 779 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:35.800 Even my own voice was killing me. Yeah, the morning 780 00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:38.000 and I said, I've ever watched that show. I'll know 781 00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:40.559 which show it is. I'll just know because I look. 782 00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:43.360 I'm sure I look bersirred doing it, but I'm sure 783 00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:44.719 I sounded bersir. 784 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:45.760 You had to have. 785 00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:48.639 Did anybody pick up on it or nobody? 786 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.440 Well, everybody's in your own world, is true? 787 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.800 Even thank god there were other people there. Oh, yeah, 788 00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:04.440 to absorb the whatever they absorbed the banana ache? Do 789 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:05.920 you have any with you by the check, But. 790 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:07.840 As a matter of fact, I don't. I was going to 791 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:09.440 bring some actually I. 792 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:11.639 Know, Well there goes our after party. 793 00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.000 Yeah. 794 00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:16.000 I want to bring up a character that you did 795 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:18.960 that I'm personally a big fan of. I was telling 796 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.440 Jim about this earlier before you, before you arrived. Was 797 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.719 the Fear from Metal Fear? Yes, I thought that was 798 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.320 a great character. It's a great game. And can you 799 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:31.599 just speak to sure? 800 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:33.599 Remember when we get it? You know when you get 801 00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.360 it and you remember, they just give you a photograph. 802 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.159 They said, which one do you want to do? And 803 00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:41.280 I said, this looks good, destroying whatever it is this guy? 804 00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.639 And I said, how can I make it because my 805 00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:47.320 voice is not like yours even. I mean, I used 806 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:51.719 to have that kind of load, the gravity, but I 807 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.599 don't have that anymore. It's more more more mel tor mae. 808 00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:57.440 Now I'm up. 809 00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:58.760 Here velvet, fake velvet. 810 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:06.840 So I had a golo and I I I am 811 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:07.480 the fear. 812 00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:09.599 I am the fear. 813 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.760 Okay, let's go. We're ready and to work that out. 814 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.440 And when I saw it was so great because you know, 815 00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.480 you don't see this most everybody doesn't know. We don't 816 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.280 get to see these. He just wind up doing it 817 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.840 and they paint to voice whatever it is. 818 00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:27.639 And in my opinion that that whole game franchise might 819 00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:30.639 be the most cinematic video games of all times. I mean, 820 00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:33.760 and you know what I love about that franchise is 821 00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.639 every time they introduce a character, say the fear. You know, 822 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.559 the character name comes up and you know it shows 823 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.039 the fear he drops into the scene. But then right 824 00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.559 beside it in parentheses they say Michael Bell the voice act. 825 00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:46.400 Isn't it strange? 826 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.000 And they give so much. Did you ever meet Hideo Kajima? No, no, no, 827 00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:51.800 never met him. 828 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.159 People ask me about the artists of half these shows 829 00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:56.480 because a lot of games, do a lot of games 830 00:41:56.639 --> 00:42:00.000 and I don't. And you know, I think I recently 831 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.119 met some recently because they picked up a game I 832 00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:05.599 did called Soul Reaver. Oh yes, he picked that up 833 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.119 because they wound up being Soul River and it's cooled Ascendants. 834 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.719 It's coming at this like the fourth permutation of it, 835 00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:14.960 so Diablo to Soulriva to Defiance to Ascendants, which is 836 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.679 brand new. And got to meet some of the artists 837 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.400 that was a little bit different. Yeah, finally got to 838 00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:21.000 meet the guys. 839 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.599 I just asked that because in my opinion, I think 840 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:28.199 Hideo Kajima is like literally a genius. Genius not even exaggerating, 841 00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:31.119 you know, I don't use that word lightning. And I 842 00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:33.079 actually got to meet him a couple of years ago 843 00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.880 at the Video Game Awards. I was there with my dad, 844 00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:40.239 who's also a voice actor, and we're on the we 845 00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:42.119 were lined up to go do the you know, the 846 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.239 walk through, the step through on the red carpet, and 847 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.880 we're in line and I see Hideokagina in front of us, 848 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:51.159 and I was like, oh my, like it started shrinking 849 00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.559 and I was like, no way, I admire this man. 850 00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:57.119 You know, it was a lot of people. Wouldn't they 851 00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:58.400 just a name? 852 00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.079 Oh yeah, No. I I saw him and I was like, 853 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:05.400 oh my god, that's Kajima's son, Like, oh, daddy, daddy, 854 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:06.239 do you know who that is? 855 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:07.159 That's ID. 856 00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:11.360 And usually I'm not like this, but I had to 857 00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:14.199 just tap him on the shoulder and just be mister Kajima, 858 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:16.119 you her amazing. 859 00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:19.079 I just love your work. I just wanted to introduce myself. 860 00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:19.920 What was his response? 861 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.159 He just, oh, thank you very much, thank you, you know, 862 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:27.280 just very grateful. Yeah, pretty much. But that was like, 863 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:29.800 you know, I'm usually not starstruck, and I wouldn't say 864 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.920 I was starstruck in that moment, but it's just like phenomenal. 865 00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.679 Hey, I get starstruck. I you know, you know when 866 00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:38.800 we have our fans that come up and they tell 867 00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:40.639 you how they grew up with you and all that, 868 00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:45.239 how wonderful it is, and it's it's really really great. 869 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:48.320 It hit me when there was a guy and you'll 870 00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.000 know who I'm talking about, who was at the table 871 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.960 opposite me and uh and I looked up and he 872 00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:57.440 had a huge poster of Banbie gigantic poster talking about 873 00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.480 and I looked and I went, oh my god, so 874 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.440 I said my hand. I said, I'm not gonna be 875 00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.280 right back. Said where'd you get that poster? And he said, oh, 876 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:06.559 I've have it for years. I said that's original. He 877 00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:08.199 said yeah. I said, well gave it to you. Whered 878 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:09.719 you get it? And he said, well, Walt gave it 879 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:12.239 to me. I said, wal too, He said, Walt Disney. 880 00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:16.239 I said, Walt Disney gave you that poster? Why? He said, well, 881 00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:17.239 I'm a Bambi. 882 00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:19.880 Yeah, then you go. Okay. 883 00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.519 I was stunned. I grabbed this poor guy, Donnie, now 884 00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:25.639 you know, I grabbed it. Oh my god. I gave 885 00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.480 him a big hung Oh my god, that was my childhood. 886 00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.599 Oh and he got so excited making flower Yes, yes, 887 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:35.880 oh my god, oh yes, what he said? I'm just 888 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.440 so great. And I'm told that Thumper does the thlumber 889 00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:40.159 is at these things. I've never seen him. I've never 890 00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:42.679 met him. And of course we only I met the 891 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:46.840 Margaret who is who is the principal figure for a 892 00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:49.599 tinker Bell? Yes, tinker Bell. Yes, And once we were 893 00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:51.960 at dinner. I met her because we went to dinner 894 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:55.039 and oh, she's been her nineties or something. 895 00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:59.039 Yeah, and she she and I presented Awards about five 896 00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:03.079 years ago at the Annies. Oh nice, yeah, and she 897 00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:04.840 was just Jesus chanting. 898 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.239 But she was sitting and we're having dinner at some 899 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:11.199 Japanese restaurant and one of those events, and Aleana I said, 900 00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:13.440 so you and Walt Disney you knew him. Then I said, 901 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.159 and I mean not that you're not great looking now, 902 00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:18.800 but you were a babe. I said, you were. Really 903 00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:21.800 those photos that you have young, you were a babe. 904 00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:24.159 She said, well, yes I was. And I said, so 905 00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.480 you and Walt uh marmat you and Walt. Did you 906 00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:33.960 ever you know, did you ever? She was very subtle, 907 00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:35.760 very subtle about it, you know, yeah, yeah, you know, 908 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:37.920 mister subtler. And she looked at me she said, I'm 909 00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:38.559 not telling. 910 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:42.840 Oh, thank you for verifying so cool. 911 00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.159 I'm not telling she is so cool. I thought she'd go, 912 00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:47.840 oh dear, oh no, not me. 913 00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:52.000 And then you went, yes, you are, you're telling. Well. 914 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:53.679 Speaking of the voice of Bambie, what was. 915 00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:55.320 His name again, Nannie Donegal? 916 00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:57.800 Yes, Donny don Agan, Yes he was. He was on 917 00:45:57.840 --> 00:45:59.840 the podcast. For anybody watching, he wants to check out 918 00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:00.760 that episode. 919 00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.199 Of a couple of months. 920 00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:05.159 Yeah, and what a life he had what an incredible 921 00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:05.840 He was in. 922 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.719 The Frankenstein movies. He was the kid in Frankenstein opposite 923 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:10.480 but Nego Sia. 924 00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:11.599 And he was in the Army. 925 00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:12.960 I mean he was in the service. 926 00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:13.280 Yeah. 927 00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:15.280 But he showed me these photos and I said, you 928 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:19.000 met Basil Rathbones. Oh yes, he was telling me wonderful 929 00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:23.559 stories and all kinds of wow. Well that's what that's 930 00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:25.920 my history. That's you know, that's what. Oh yeah, I 931 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:29.400 love that period. Now of course he's Rathbone. Nobody knows 932 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:30.440 what you're talking about. 933 00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:33.559 Another franchise that you guys have both played roles in 934 00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:38.039 is Transformers. Transformers you played. 935 00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:41.679 Yeah, I was after Burner, a ripper snapper. 936 00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:42.440 Yes, ripper Snappers. 937 00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:48.000 I was thinking of Crabclaw and that other guy who Yeah, 938 00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:49.800 I can't remember, but. 939 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.760 What was the character you played? You played? Right? Was 940 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:55.039 it pro Yes? 941 00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:02.519 And Brainstorm and something Aid First Aid and a couple 942 00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:06.599 of others. You know, everybody, they all everybody everybody has 943 00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.480 a favorite. It touches them in some way and you 944 00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:12.239 don't know why that particular one. The guys that do 945 00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:16.519 like prout became love and became cops or soldiers. I said, 946 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.000 I joined the service peper as you you guys come up, 947 00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:23.320 said we became Marines because of you, because of me. Yeah, 948 00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:26.199 because when I did g I Joe, because of because 949 00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:31.320 of uh Duke Duke. And I said, well, okay, you 950 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.440 never you never killed anybody and yelled my name or anything, 951 00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.440 did you when you're in service? No, sir, No, sir. 952 00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.840 We're this is straight, so straight, you know, No, sir. 953 00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:42.719 We just just want to let you it was nice 954 00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:44.400 to meet you, and just killed them in general. Just 955 00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.199 kill them in Gero people in general. Just take them down. 956 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:48.159 They were bad guys. 957 00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:49.679 This is from Michael Bell. 958 00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.199 That's right. Take that miscreant, but it. 959 00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:57.719 Is, you know, it's it's so interesting, it's so new. 960 00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:00.760 It's always so interesting because I'm going to be seeing you, 961 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:04.079 I think in Philadelphia and I don't know if it's Philly, 962 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.480 but I'm going to see you in Chicago and then 963 00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.480 I guess Denver or Dallas or wherever it is. 964 00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:12.679 If you've had a fan expo and just so on 965 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.360 that note, don't forget we're doing the podcast live the 966 00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:19.199 fan expo. So if you're in Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver, and 967 00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:21.079 the list you can find at the beginning and end 968 00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:22.800 of this podcast, be sure to check it out. 969 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:23.440 It's a good time. 970 00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:29.039 I was just gonna say that I'm financially obligated, but 971 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:29.400 I came. 972 00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:32.400 But I like his voice saying it. 973 00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:35.079 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's ready to got a good voice. 974 00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:38.880 Yeah what Speaking of these conventions, what character do you 975 00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:41.559 get requested the most? Who do people come up to 976 00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:42.320 you for the most? 977 00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:48.760 Probably probably I guess Duke and then Prowl the most. 978 00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:53.519 I get some Brainstone, quacker Jack, not a lot, but 979 00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:59.039 I got enough quar and especially when new people, I 980 00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:02.519 guess I get a lot of Uh, Rugrats. 981 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.679 Yeah, that's I would think when I was doing my 982 00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:07.159 research on you, when I saw rug. 983 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:07.960 Rats, and. 984 00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:12.719 Yeah, that was I mean without even hearing the voices, 985 00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:14.280 I mean, that just brings me back. That was one 986 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.880 of my favorite shows growing up. Yeah, and you you 987 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:18.800 played Stu. 988 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.039 I played Stu and Chucky's dad che Yes. 989 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:22.880 Yes, that's right. 990 00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:26.039 And we did a memore. We did a Mother's Day 991 00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:31.079 piece where Chaz has to explain to uh to Chucky 992 00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.639 why his mother I remember from Mother's Day and when 993 00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.360 I read it, I was very moved by it by myself, 994 00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:39.559 so I would as an actor, I was able to 995 00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:42.360 bring it as it were. It wasn't just here, it 996 00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:46.480 was really down here and uh and explaining it. And 997 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:48.960 when we finished recording, I know it's got to do 998 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:51.400 a second take. And I looked up and everybody in 999 00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:56.880 the booth was crying. The engineer, the director, the casting director, 1000 00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.000 the producer. They were also sobbing. 1001 00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:01.800 It was so great when they were crying, and I say, oh, 1002 00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:04.960 this is gonna be a biggie. It was a good 1003 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.599 because that's a jaded crew. Oh yeah, I mean, if 1004 00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:11.880 they're going, wow, you ding ding ding. 1005 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.519 Good name for a series, The Jaded Crew, The Jaded Crew, 1006 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:17.079 good name for a series. 1007 00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:20.840 I just wrote that, Yeah, right off the top of 1008 00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:21.199 my head. 1009 00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:23.800 Would you say that was like a challenge doing such 1010 00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:26.519 a heavy scene and kind of I mean, don't take 1011 00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:28.639 this the wrong way, but it's kind of a goofy voice, 1012 00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:30.880 you know, it's. 1013 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:34.840 Kind well I got that because the gall who played 1014 00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:39.639 Chucky originally Chris Kavanaugh, who was also of course, had 1015 00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:43.199 that kind of thing that she chose. She chose that 1016 00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.480 voice to be that day's kind of thing. So when 1017 00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:48.679 I heard it, when I started doing I said, can 1018 00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:50.039 I hear what she sounds like? 1019 00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:50.239 Oh? 1020 00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:52.400 He sounds like they said okay, sure, and they said 1021 00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:55.199 I'm gonna do that. That's it will have inherited it 1022 00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:58.239 from his dad. So I wound up doing that kind 1023 00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.840 of sad, just like she did. So she said, she 1024 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.639 talked to me, we don't have the same sid family resemblance. 1025 00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:07.880 Let's hole that works, and they said, well buy it 1026 00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:09.280 by that. 1027 00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:12.079 Works for us, Chris. 1028 00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:14.800 If you're a fan of everything we do here at 1029 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.679 tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support the show 1030 00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:22.400 on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts as well as early 1031 00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:26.440 in ad free access to the show itself, prize drawings, 1032 00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:29.599 and more. You'll feel the difference, So go ahead and 1033 00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:33.559 join the tuned In family today at Patreon dot com 1034 00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:35.840 slash Jim Cummings podcast. 1035 00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:37.000 Do it now. 1036 00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:41.639 After that first year, maybe first two years, I went 1037 00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:44.840 up doing all the visiting characters as well as as 1038 00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:46.880 well as as you probably have told people, we could 1039 00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.840 only we could do three, and so we wound up 1040 00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.519 if it was only if I wound up had two characters, 1041 00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:55.400 I could do that third character, and so I wound 1042 00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:57.599 up having three characters. So I went up doing all 1043 00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:01.119 the guest characters until they started ringing and soelebrities. Yeah, 1044 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:02.480 right to do the guests. 1045 00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:04.760 Yeah, we all remember those days. 1046 00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:07.880 That was that was that was painful. 1047 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:08.480 Yeah. 1048 00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:11.480 Yeah, I've heard you talk about this subject on every 1049 00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:15.440 interview pretty much I listened to or read about was this, 1050 00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:19.599 uh you know you espousing, you know when Hollywood actors 1051 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:21.760 started taking voice over roles. And there's something we've talked 1052 00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.360 about in this podcast before, something that I have a huge, 1053 00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:28.199 great personally with And I'm just curious to ask you 1054 00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:31.400 because you know, first of this is a two part question. 1055 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.599 So first of all, what inspired you to get into 1056 00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:39.400 this profession because you were, you know, around before even 1057 00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:43.719 television was around. So it's not necessarily I'm taking your words. 1058 00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:44.639 I'm taking your words. 1059 00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:45.639 It's true. It's true. 1060 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:47.760 It's true, my heart, Yes, it's true. 1061 00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:50.360 I took those arebatim words. 1062 00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:55.679 Before television was Sorry. I remember sitting watching watching the radio. No, no, 1063 00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:59.199 watch radio, watching the television. What is it? It was 1064 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:02.079 like an Indian or something, and it was just air. 1065 00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:05.280 Isn't that great? Was sitting in Brooklyn, our friends are 1066 00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:09.519 watching the test patterning? Yeah it was great. 1067 00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:14.159 Yeah, just picture wait and it was right after. 1068 00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:21.920 Oh yes, that was the that's when TV ended. That's 1069 00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:25.320 when TV at night you ended to this spangled banner 1070 00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:26.039 and it was over. 1071 00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:29.639 Yeah, the three channels were off. Now, yes, sometimes the 1072 00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:32.840 public TV. If you had rabbit ears with aluminum foil 1073 00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:34.719 around them, and you could get rabbit. 1074 00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:36.119 Ears, now you wear them on your head because if 1075 00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:38.159 you're hearing voices, you're going to ask me. 1076 00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:41.880 So the question was what inspired you to be a 1077 00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:44.639 part of this industry? I mean to me it you know, 1078 00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:47.760 it's something so new would be you know without an influence. 1079 00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:51.519 Seen what happened was? I knew nothing about it. I 1080 00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:53.880 was in a contract to Universal Studios. I was doing 1081 00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:55.880 a lot of on camera I guess started almost every 1082 00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:58.440 television show in the seventies right. 1083 00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:00.480 Up to the eighties, including Star Trek and Student. 1084 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:05.280 Yeah, right, exactly. But but I met Jony Gerber and 1085 00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:08.639 Joni said to me, you do all these voices, why 1086 00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:11.800 are you doing on camera? I love working on camera, 1087 00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:14.760 love acting. And she said, but you have all this 1088 00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:16.880 ability to do all these other characters that she will 1089 00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:20.119 never play on camera. Why don't you why don't you 1090 00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:23.000 get involved? And I said, okay, So I slept with her. 1091 00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:28.400 That's when he told me I had a good voice, 1092 00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:31.880 that's right. And so she introduced me to Bud Davis 1093 00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:34.519 over at Cunningham and she said, Bud listened to him. 1094 00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:36.599 She did. We did a tape in her in her 1095 00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:38.880 house while she played the piano and was going in 1096 00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:43.559 the background, She's going, she's doing stuff and I'm doing 1097 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:47.480 character just voices that are stuff I wrote. And he listened. 1098 00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:50.480 He said, okay, I think that'll be good. And bless 1099 00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.280 his heart. Bud is gone now, but bless his heart. 1100 00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.920 To get me started. He got a call from a 1101 00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:01.440 producer over it one of the studios and she was 1102 00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:05.639 looking for another actor and he was not available, and 1103 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:07.840 he's let me send Michael Bell. And she said, I 1104 00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:10.119 don't know who he is, so just try and say, 1105 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:11.719 I don't know who he is. I'll taste it. I'll 1106 00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:14.159 tell you what. Let him come in, let him record, 1107 00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:18.639 and if you buy it, you don't have to pay him, okay. 1108 00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.159 As a way of get me going, so I went, 1109 00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.159 it was your jump start, that was my jump start. 1110 00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:25.480 It was like a lost leader. I went in met 1111 00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:29.119 with him, uh, and I did the thing and I 1112 00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:31.239 left and I came back and she said she loved it. 1113 00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:33.320 She's paying you. And from there and I started to 1114 00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:35.880 do albums, voices for albums. 1115 00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:39.880 Interesting for recording, Yeah, what kind of albums? 1116 00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:41.199 What was it? 1117 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:47.199 No, the musical albums? What was got? The studio up 1118 00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:50.239 on Librea used to be the Charlie Chaplin studio years ago. 1119 00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:54.280 Then they became oh, the other studio for the guy 1120 00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:59.280 wrote yeah whatever, I can't remember his name. And they 1121 00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.719 had studio there, where's the old Charlie Chaplin studio? And 1122 00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:07.639 we're doing records, all the records, records, Folks records. And 1123 00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:12.000 I was doing I was doing promos for these records. Yeah, 1124 00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.519 for all these wonderful records. Yeah. Wow, it interesting good gig. 1125 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:16.960 I mean Jesus was a great gig. 1126 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:17.719 Yeah. 1127 00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:20.480 But he showed me and Joni brought me to him, 1128 00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:23.719 and that's where I got excuse me, the voice of Butter. 1129 00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:26.880 When they brought me in, that's just one word. I said, well, 1130 00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:29.360 what is this is for parks? It's gonna see Butter? 1131 00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:32.239 I said, Okay, what what am I doing? They explained, 1132 00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:35.559 and all these we're all going in and out, voices 1133 00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:38.599 in and out. Who cares? Is this one voice? Who cares? 1134 00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:41.840 Wow? 1135 00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:42.360 Yeah? 1136 00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:43.440 Who cares? 1137 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.920 Yeah? I remember when I first started to business. I'm 1138 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:50.519 so sorry that I cannot remember this man's name. But uh, 1139 00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.159 I lived down in Corona, California when I made my 1140 00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:55.960 first demo tape, so I would go back and forth. 1141 00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:57.639 I was right in the middle of between San Diego 1142 00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.719 and La so I would go to Sandy a lot 1143 00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:05.000 to do. Back when I just first started, and I 1144 00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:09.960 met a man who was in the business, and uh 1145 00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:13.440 and and and we were doing some kind of comedic 1146 00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:17.079 spot and I was always the comedic dufest in the 1147 00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:20.719 spots of radio and he's and he said, so, how 1148 00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:22.519 long you've been in the business. I go about an 1149 00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:24.800 hour and a half and he goes, oh, I'm doing it. 1150 00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:26.280 He goes, you want to hear a good one? And 1151 00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:29.079 I go okay, and he goes, okay, e double l 1152 00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:33.119 old double good Kellogg's best to you. And I said 1153 00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:35.519 that was you and he goes, yep, yep. And I 1154 00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:38.360 only did like three takes. They used it for twenty 1155 00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:40.000 years and I go, yeah they did. 1156 00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:44.480 Whoa And did you get residuals said yeah, yeah, he 1157 00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:44.920 must have. 1158 00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:49.039 And that because I remember hearing that, I'm sure you do. 1159 00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:54.000 Oh yeah, yeah, sure for cheerios or whoever whoever you know, 1160 00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:55.519 Kellogg's cornflakes. 1161 00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:59.159 Now it's all on YouTube. Yeah, and we don't get 1162 00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:02.360 paid for that, and we're supposed to. We're supposed to. 1163 00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:04.519 It's licensing. But that's another story. 1164 00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:06.880 Yeah, yeah, all of that. 1165 00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:10.639 Because I've watched all my old commercials on YouTube, all 1166 00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:15.400 Mark commercials. Don't get paid for it, you should be. Yeah, 1167 00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:17.559 a lot of shows of a lot of shows that 1168 00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:20.079 have been on the air for years in the seventies, whatever, 1169 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:22.280 shows that I've done and get some recisuals for. But 1170 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.719 I got another from YouTube. Neither do you, None of 1171 00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:27.440 does nonether do any of the actors who are now 1172 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:32.360 being featured on YouTube. They get money, not the actors 1173 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:36.039 but the company. You know, they get bucks. YouTube gets 1174 00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:40.280 bucks and it's and it happens to be illegal, but 1175 00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:42.079 talk about a union. 1176 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:44.719 Yeah, it's like the wild West of social media. And 1177 00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:47.480 it's something you know, for like our channel as well, 1178 00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:50.760 you know, other other pages will take our clips and 1179 00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:54.400 promote them. They you know, and it's like they're getting 1180 00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:58.360 ad revenue. But it's almost like a trade off, trade 1181 00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:01.039 off because it's like okay, okay, well it's getting the 1182 00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:02.880 name we're out there, but they're. 1183 00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:05.880 Generating money, generating money, and you're not content. 1184 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:07.400 I get it, I get it. 1185 00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:07.800 Nice. 1186 00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:08.760 Yeah, it's a weird. 1187 00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:10.280 That's why I never worked nude. 1188 00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:15.760 That's not what I heard, but that was in the beginning. 1189 00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:17.159 Oh okay, I said. 1190 00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:19.639 People say that I'm having an ee operation. I said, 1191 00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:21.039 from all those years of auditioning. 1192 00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:26.079 Yeah, and I think, I hope I'm not repeating myself. 1193 00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:27.760 But like you said to Vince Edwards, yeah but they 1194 00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:32.719 got you got the job. Get sitting too long. My 1195 00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:35.440 ass really hurts, and and you go, yeah, but you 1196 00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:36.039 got the job. 1197 00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:38.119 You got the job. That's right. 1198 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.360 Wow, Ben Casey. 1199 00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:44.440 Ben Casey, Casey, ben Casey, not the other one. 1200 00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:45.559 Not Doctor Kildare. 1201 00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:50.760 There, smart man. Smart Man took acting lessons while he 1202 00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:54.159 was doing Doctor God. Went to England and went to 1203 00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:57.519 Rada to study while he was doing Doctor Kildare. Right 1204 00:59:57.559 --> 00:59:59.159 after the show, he said, I got to learn my 1205 00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:00.760 craft now that I'm a star, I got to learn 1206 01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:03.800 my craft. Smart guy. Yeah, really smart. 1207 01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:04.280 Good for him. 1208 01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.199 Well, speaking of acting classes, I heard a story that 1209 01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:09.559 actually Cam Clark took your class. 1210 01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:13.559 Yes, Cam cam took the class I had. I've had. 1211 01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:20.239 Oh pop music, Cam Clark Rusi Taylor, Neil. 1212 01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:22.840 Ross serious alumni. 1213 01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:27.440 Lauren Lauren Lester. I had a host of kats who 1214 01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:32.000 Ci wow my class, all early buddings. They were voice 1215 01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:35.679 alettes and uh and Ruci came because her voice is 1216 01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:38.079 out here and she wanted to get deep. So I 1217 01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:44.199 gave her Margaret Rutherford missus Marple. She spoke like this, 1218 01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:47.360 She said, oh, dear, really did a voice that over here? 1219 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:51.239 I said, try that, get deep, give it a give 1220 01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:53.480 it a low jaw, give it an underslung jaw, and 1221 01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:55.400 come back. And she came back and she did, I 1222 01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:58.840 got a deep voice. I got a deep around and 1223 01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:01.800 everybody liked that. And those were people that that I 1224 01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:05.119 managed to play with. And when Cam came, he was 1225 01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:10.280 auditioning stuff and who knew that eventually you could mix 1226 01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:12.880 us like his voice was close to mine an algorithm 1227 01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:15.880 and he went out, and so he came back to 1228 01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:17.519 one of the classes and he said, I have an 1229 01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:19.559 announcement to make. I got my first commerce, I got 1230 01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:22.519 my first cartoon. We all went whoa when we played, 1231 01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:25.079 and I felt great, It really felt great that I 1232 01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:27.079 had something to do that he said, And I said, 1233 01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:28.679 what is it? And he told me I said, I 1234 01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:31.880 auditioned for that, and he looked at me. I said, 1235 01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:34.559 I'm only kiddy. I'm thrilled I did, but I'm thrilled 1236 01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:40.239 you did well. You can meet your teacher, did great care, 1237 01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:43.800 you did great, absolutely and every now and then because 1238 01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:47.119 we do a world of warcraft, and I once went in, 1239 01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:48.519 they started, we're going to play it back for you, 1240 01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:50.840 play your character medieve back for you. And I said okay, 1241 01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:52.440 and they played it back. I went, it's not me. 1242 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:54.800 They said, it is you. I said, it's not me. 1243 01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:57.960 He said, And I hear them talking. Isn't that Michael 1244 01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.440 bow him? I think that's when Cam Clark was here, 1245 01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:03.840 Cam Clark. I hear the guys, I said, you had 1246 01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:08.199 Cam Clark come in? Was I dying? Was there something 1247 01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:10.719 wrong with me? Did I make somebody? Did I say 1248 01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:13.880 something to somebody? Did I pissed somebody off? They said, 1249 01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:18.440 Oh no, I you out of town or something? Oh sure, yeah, yeah, 1250 01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:21.719 where was I was? I was out of town? 1251 01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:21.960 I was? 1252 01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:24.880 I was. I was in Glendale right exactly. 1253 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:25.199 Yeah. 1254 01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:27.119 I got a big sign on my car says I 1255 01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:31.119 did to Glendale out of town. So they mixed and 1256 01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:34.039 matched us, and I wound up then I took over 1257 01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:36.000 from there again Mediev and I said, oh so cam 1258 01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:41.360 glax O. Rob Halson said the same thing. Rob said, 1259 01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:43.119 you know, I'm going to be doing your voice. I said, 1260 01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:45.800 maybe the light part. You can't get the deep part. 1261 01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:49.320 You can do the one up here. That's what you 1262 01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:52.239 sound like. Rob. Yeah, you're over here, right, okay, Rob, 1263 01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:55.000 but you can't get down here, right, that's right? 1264 01:02:55.880 --> 01:03:03.079 Yeah. Well there's a joke in there too, butes and gentlemen. 1265 01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:07.840 But I want to say, yeah, so okay, So I 1266 01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:08.840 have a question for you. 1267 01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:15.039 Yeah, are we talking about your big theater, TV on 1268 01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:20.679 camera or VO? Which do you have an arena in 1269 01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:25.039 which you love more than another voiceover? Yeah? 1270 01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:27.840 Yeah, I love theater, but I got so tired of 1271 01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:33.000 memorizing you too. I love being on stage. I loved it. 1272 01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:36.239 I'm so glad you said that I had my own theater, 1273 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:40.920 the West End Playhouse. We introduced new plays we did 1274 01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:44.280 in eric Idol play and he came to see and 1275 01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:46.679 he said, I can't believe you guys have done this. 1276 01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:50.280 He said that it's better than our production in London. 1277 01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:54.119 He was so excited. And recently my daughter, who's an actress, 1278 01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:58.119 Ashley Bell, who's in the Groundings, was doing stuff the 1279 01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:00.880 Groundings and Eric Idol was there for something and she 1280 01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:03.400 was part of the group and she mentioned to him 1281 01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:06.400 about the play that we had done his play, and 1282 01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:10.599 he said, yes, it was in the valley. Uh, you 1283 01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:13.119 guys did that plan And he was so excited. It 1284 01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:16.360 was a wonderful production of Actually was so excited because 1285 01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:18.840 her dad and her mom went before she was born 1286 01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:21.440 and had done this play Wow for Eric Idol, And 1287 01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:23.719 we love doing it. We love doing theater. 1288 01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:30.519 But learning lines, Oh, I think that's why I ended up. 1289 01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:37.480 You know, I had lived notoriously, and I think part 1290 01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:40.360 of the reason I had lived so much is even 1291 01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:44.199 when I can read it is I just couldn't memorize 1292 01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:48.559 the lines. So I did well, I'll tell you one thing, 1293 01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:53.079 you know, and then here comes the bs and uh. 1294 01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:54.320 And that's how I got through it. 1295 01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:56.920 I did a soap opera. Can you imagine what life 1296 01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:58.599 must have been like for me? I did a soap 1297 01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:01.480 opera called morning Star before Days of Our Lives was 1298 01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:03.400 the precursor of the Days of Our Lives. For a year, 1299 01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:07.119 I was just out of the army and I got 1300 01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:09.000 a job and I was making one hundred and twenty 1301 01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:12.360 five dollars a week. Oh and there was a lot 1302 01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:16.280 of money for me, and I had since I was 1303 01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:18.840 the new guy in town, I had all the exposition, 1304 01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:21.920 so I had. So when missus wes Moore was murdered, 1305 01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:24.639 do we think that mister wes Moore did it? Or 1306 01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:26.760 do you think that she took the pills herself? And 1307 01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.440 because and I'm having to learn this all night long, 1308 01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:32.639 I'm up all night, I must look like eighty years old. 1309 01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:34.840 The next morning when I went to the set in MEBC, 1310 01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:38.719 and they had que cards, and I refuse to read 1311 01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:41.559 the queue cards, and I learned the lines. But it 1312 01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:44.199 was every night I'd be like this, and I'd sit 1313 01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:47.199 around and we'd learn the lines. We'd we'd work together, 1314 01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:50.719 et cetera. And the next morning I'd get up and go, Okay, 1315 01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:52.599 I'm not allowed to read the cue cards. I just 1316 01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:55.119 have to really get through this. And I remember, finally 1317 01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:58.639 when I got comfortable enough, we had a scene in 1318 01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:01.360 a restaurant and this detective comes in, and I'm the 1319 01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:03.480 young guy. I have to ask the detective, so what'd 1320 01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:06.239 you find out? And he's got a shit load of lines, 1321 01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:09.239 and I said to him, listen, if you've never done 1322 01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:11.440 soap opera, don't worry about it. Q CAUs will be 1323 01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:15.000 right over. I'm back. I don't rate here cars. I said, no, 1324 01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:16.480 I'm sorry, okay, I just want to let you know. 1325 01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:18.480 He said, I don't rake here cards. I said, okay, fine, 1326 01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:21.719 and we get on and he started to lie. God 1327 01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:23.920 bless you, God bless you, and I say to him. 1328 01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:26.960 I lean over to him and I say to him, Okay, 1329 01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.960 so what do you think happened with miss and miss 1330 01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:32.639 west Moreland? Did she take the pills? Do you think 1331 01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:35.559 he killed her? And he went, well, personally, I feel that. 1332 01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:39.960 Perfect. 1333 01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:44.960 And I said, so what do you think do you think? 1334 01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:47.719 Did she do it? Or did he do it to her? 1335 01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:53.840 He went, I went, so what do you think? Said? 1336 01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:56.159 I can't do this. I can't do this, and I 1337 01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:58.119 know that's not in the script. He gets off the 1338 01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:01.719 seat and walks out of the student way and I 1339 01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:02.599 hear the right guy. 1340 01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:04.880 Holy shit, what the hell was that? 1341 01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:05.480 What's that? 1342 01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:06.079 Where did it go? 1343 01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:11.440 Yeah? And we hear the door closes, the studio door closes. Oh, Grant, 1344 01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:15.559 I'm like this because you don't stop. They had to 1345 01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:19.719 cut its tape but still you don't stop. They immediately 1346 01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:22.679 had another actor come in let him read the cue 1347 01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:26.559 card lines. Somebody was he was one of the cameramen 1348 01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:29.280 or something came in and he does this scene. I 1349 01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:31.800 watched this the next morning, and I'm curious to see 1350 01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.039 how it worked. We saw start the scene and then 1351 01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:39.840 they cut to the actor who forgot his lines opening up, 1352 01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:46.320 back to me, back to another actor, to another actor, 1353 01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:52.360 save the opening with me and just with him, and 1354 01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:54.719 then back to me. We saved tape. We saved some tape. 1355 01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:57.199 We saved about twenty feet of tapes. I don't worry about. 1356 01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:57.920 Oh yeah, yeah, And. 1357 01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:01.400 We got this other looks nothing like him, respawning looking 1358 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:03.960 over my shoulder, like like it's like they're doing Saturday 1359 01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:07.000 Night Live. He's looking over my shoulders. 1360 01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:11.400 Oh God, like bewitch with the two Darren's going back and. 1361 01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:14.519 Forth, going back and forth. It was so bizarre. 1362 01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:18.279 That reminds me of They did that, not the same episode, 1363 01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:20.560 but in Game of Thrones they did that with an actor. 1364 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:23.000 There was one There was an actor playing a character. 1365 01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:27.239 He was like he was like Denaris's like henchman. You know, 1366 01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:29.399 he had the blades and everything, and he was like 1367 01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:31.359 in love with her. Remember he had the long hair. 1368 01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:33.920 Oh yeah, yes, of course, I don't forget the character's name. 1369 01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:37.920 But he started out as that character, and then the 1370 01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:40.560 further you go into the series, it's not even explained 1371 01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:43.560 or anything. All of a sudden, he has cut off 1372 01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:45.279 black hair and looks completely different. 1373 01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:48.199 But it's the same character, perfect, And it's like when 1374 01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:48.880 something happened. 1375 01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:50.520 I don't know what happened behind the scenes, you know. 1376 01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:54.760 It's just it was remember money, Yeah, I remember watching 1377 01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:56.920 that and be like, wait, who is this guy? And 1378 01:08:56.960 --> 01:08:58.760 then they're referring to him as his name and I'm like, 1379 01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:02.880 blonde here before to save money. 1380 01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:04.920 They they're not going to explain anything. I mean, not 1381 01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:06.840 even going to rewrite and say he died and this 1382 01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:10.079 is his book, Melvin. You know it's not going to happen. 1383 01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:12.039 It's so but having to do it in the soap 1384 01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:14.920 opera and watching this guy's face when he went and 1385 01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:17.800 I knew exactly how he felt because my heart always 1386 01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:20.359 felt like that when I was on the soap opera 1387 01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:22.479 for that year, and I always felt like that. I thought, 1388 01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:24.720 oh yeah, how much I can give as much as 1389 01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:27.560 I can, But I'm scared crapless. I really was. 1390 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:31.319 Yeah, I would imagine how long did you a year? 1391 01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:32.079 A year? 1392 01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:33.439 Yeah? 1393 01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:36.239 And that would have scared me to death. Oh it was. 1394 01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:39.640 But it was my first NAT other than Verdict is Yours? 1395 01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:41.800 Where I got to improvise through a whole thing. Then 1396 01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:43.159 I went in the army. After that, I was in 1397 01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:45.479 the service and did all that and then came out. 1398 01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:49.119 But that was, Oh my god, that was you got 1399 01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:51.640 a soap opera and went great. Never occurred to me. 1400 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:53.920 Then I looked at the lines. I went, oh, this 1401 01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:58.319 is mine, this whole paragraph is mine. Then they would 1402 01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:01.840 another person would say, so, what do you think? Then 1403 01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:04.920 I'd have all these lines. So Jerry, what happened? I went, 1404 01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:07.760 Oh my god, all these lines and so thank god. 1405 01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:09.560 I had a wonderful actress by the name of Betsy 1406 01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:12.039 Jones Moreland who was long past, who worked with me 1407 01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:15.319 every night because she loved to act. Everybody else on 1408 01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:16.159 the soap uper. 1409 01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:20.439 Yeah hair yeah, and makeup look pretty? 1410 01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:21.840 Yeah, all looking pretty. 1411 01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:25.359 And I'm just yeah, you had to carry the weight. 1412 01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:26.680 I got to carry the weight. 1413 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:30.119 O yeah what and give up show bazs what and 1414 01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:31.399 give up show bass exactly. 1415 01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:32.960 But I was making I get the check and go, 1416 01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:36.279 look it's one hundred and twenty five dollars, you know, 1417 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:37.840 one hundred and twenty five dollars. 1418 01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:38.319 Wow? 1419 01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:39.359 And this is what year? 1420 01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:43.239 Good god, it must have been in the sixties, sixty 1421 01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.600 and I was part of NBC. I was part of 1422 01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:52.039 the studio, and I remember, I remember I was. I 1423 01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:56.359 was in between two studios, Dean Martin's show and our studio, 1424 01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:58.039 and I was at rest at that point. It was 1425 01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:01.520 like the wardrobe or something, and Tulula Bankhead was on. 1426 01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:04.000 Oh my gosh, and I snuck and I opened up 1427 01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:06.680 the door and I'm watching two bankhead working with him, 1428 01:11:07.039 --> 01:11:10.399 and I'm it's amazing. It's a little bankhead, you know, 1429 01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:12.920 good guy sit in the phone rings in the lobby 1430 01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:16.199 and I pick it up and going hello NBC, And 1431 01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:18.239 I said, Hi, can I speak to Tulula? I said, 1432 01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:21.399 I'm sorry, I have to talk to Tulua. This is 1433 01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:23.640 her agent. Well, I went, okay. One moment, at which 1434 01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:26.560 point a little bankhead comes out and I say, I'm 1435 01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:28.800 miss bankhead, this phone call is for you. And she says, 1436 01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:33.680 what I said you. She says, who are you? I said, 1437 01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:37.039 Michael's just Michael. What I said Michael Bell. Just don't 1438 01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:41.880 pick up. There's callers running on ever pick up that phone. 1439 01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:45.840 And she said, I didn't care because it's the Lula Bankhead. 1440 01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:49.359 Yeah to me, Yeah, yeah, yeah, big star. 1441 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:52.239 I told Jony, I said, when it came up to bankhead, 1442 01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:55.640 talk to me, she said, I said, Michael Bell. 1443 01:11:55.720 --> 01:12:01.720 She said, Michael What? Oh god, Almighty Pitts was next. 1444 01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:04.840 Listen, Hey, how about that? 1445 01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:06.520 I loved it? 1446 01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:09.720 Yeah, well, this question is for my OPA because he 1447 01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:13.239 loved this show. You were on Mash. Yes, you were 1448 01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:18.880 on Mash. You were recurring, they. 1449 01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:23.479 Were, They were apparently this wonderful voice over guy. Why 1450 01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:26.840 can't I remember him? Oh my god, wonderful voice over 1451 01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:29.920 guy who's older dude. And was out with the producer 1452 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:31.199 at a baseball game. 1453 01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:35.560 And Ernie and no, it's I know. 1454 01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:38.880 If I tell you, you'll know, damn it. I thanked 1455 01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:42.479 him a million times. And the producer said, I'm running 1456 01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:46.199 out of leading men, I'm running out of guests. Sorry, 1457 01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:49.000 I'm running out of guest male guest stars. And he said, 1458 01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:53.119 what about Michael Bell? And he went, oh, yeah, okay, 1459 01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:56.079 because I didn't a lot of television, never read for it. 1460 01:12:56.920 --> 01:12:57.119 Wow. 1461 01:12:57.239 --> 01:13:01.039 Scott. The script got on this said what I did 1462 01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:03.239 do years ago was I tested for one of the 1463 01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:07.159 roles opposite Alan Alda with the other guy who got it, 1464 01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:10.760 the blonde guy, and I tested for him, and they said, 1465 01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:15.239 you're too close to Alan, tall, skinny, dark hair, too close. 1466 01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:17.720 So we're going with whatever his name is, who wasn't 1467 01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:21.119 even interested in acting. He was actually a Wall Street guy. 1468 01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:24.479 He really liked Wall Street, really became a businessman. He 1469 01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:27.880 became a manager Wall Street manager. So I said, okay, 1470 01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:29.680 you know that was it and I lost out on 1471 01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:32.319 a wonderful show and then they bring me in the 1472 01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:37.000 redda is fabulous. Alan was wonderful, he was nice, everybody 1473 01:13:37.079 --> 01:13:40.720 was pleasant to me, the director. It was the first 1474 01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:44.479 time the director was directing that show. And the director 1475 01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:48.359 played crazy, the character in City Across the River the 1476 01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:50.920 movie Amboy Duke City Across the Over years ago. Remember 1477 01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:53.760 seeing oh and he was wonderful. He was just this 1478 01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:57.199 real wacky guy. And now I'm working with him. He 1479 01:13:57.479 --> 01:14:00.800 didn't like me. He said to me, when you do this, 1480 01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:07.359 play him bad. And I said, no, I've been in 1481 01:14:07.439 --> 01:14:10.079 the business long enough to know, Ah, I'm not going 1482 01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:12.039 to do that. I'm not going to play I'm a 1483 01:14:12.079 --> 01:14:16.600 bad guy from his point of view, I'm irresponsible, irreverent, 1484 01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:21.159 But he doesn't see himself as bad. He see himself 1485 01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:25.159 as an opportunist. And he has these little kids, I guess, 1486 01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:27.880 the little kids getting metal and some of them get 1487 01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:29.920 blown up, but he visits him in the hospital and 1488 01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:33.399 he gives them stuff, gives them money. And so I said, 1489 01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:35.640 I'm not going to play him bad. He's just who 1490 01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:38.319 he is. And we had a fight and he said, well, 1491 01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:40.279 why I want you to? I said, see you around, 1492 01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:43.000 and I walked off the set and I sat down 1493 01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:46.159 and Alan came over and said, I was wondering how 1494 01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:48.920 long it was going to take you, And he said, 1495 01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:52.399 you understand that we know our roles. He can't direct 1496 01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:55.119 any of us. Leretta said, I know who I am. 1497 01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:58.560 He can't direct me none of it. The only person 1498 01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:00.119 he can direct, forgive me is you. 1499 01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:03.159 So he had to make his mark. 1500 01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:05.439 He directed me wrong, I'm. 1501 01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:05.760 Going to do that. 1502 01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:08.640 I'm not going to do that, and I didn't. 1503 01:15:09.439 --> 01:15:11.920 Isn't that funny when you have creative differences on set? 1504 01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:13.960 And I went back on the one thing I learned 1505 01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.840 as an actor, You don't play the bad guy bad 1506 01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:18.840 you can be as evil as all. You can be 1507 01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:21.600 Struda Martin all you want. But Strudther Martin's character thought 1508 01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:22.640 he was doing the right thing. 1509 01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:23.840 Yeah, well Jim knows that. 1510 01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:26.239 Absolutely. 1511 01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:28.520 I mean, you know, yeah, no matter what you're doing, 1512 01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:32.520 it's it's it's So that's my answer to that, And 1513 01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:35.479 it was. It was wonderful to be on mash, of course, 1514 01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:41.680 and herb Ellis was the voice. Herb Ellis, wonderful voice. Wonderful, 1515 01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:45.079 wonderful voice. Made this suggestion to a producer and said, 1516 01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:47.279 what about Michael bell How I mean, think about it. 1517 01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:48.439 They don't do that nowadays. 1518 01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:48.880 Yeah. 1519 01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:52.800 Now you have to read for everything. You have to audition. Yeah, 1520 01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:54.920 I know, audition an audition cost. 1521 01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:55.279 Yeah. 1522 01:15:55.920 --> 01:15:58.399 If you're a fan of everything we do here at 1523 01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:01.279 tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support the show 1524 01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:06.000 on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts as well as early 1525 01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:10.039 in ad free access to the show itself, prize drawings, 1526 01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:13.239 and more. You'll feel the difference, So go ahead and 1527 01:16:13.319 --> 01:16:17.000 join the tuned in family today at Patreon dot com 1528 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:19.479 slash Jim Cummings podcast. 1529 01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:20.479 Do it now. 1530 01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:25.520 Well, Frank Welker, God bless him, he's the He's one 1531 01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:32.119 of the you know, the beatles of voiceover. He he auditioned. 1532 01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:35.560 He went in to do something for a little cartoon 1533 01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:40.119 movie called The Lion King, and and he was doing 1534 01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:44.520 ed I ultimately ended up doing and he was laughing 1535 01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:46.199 and doing this and that, and they were just trying 1536 01:16:46.199 --> 01:16:48.319 to get him, you know, And Frank, I mean, he 1537 01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:50.760 can do anything anyway he could. You could tell him, 1538 01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:54.199 you know, to do a Martian dragon from but from 1539 01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:57.600 the south side of Mars and then that way, you know, 1540 01:16:57.680 --> 01:16:58.079 you'd do that. 1541 01:16:58.239 --> 01:16:59.760 He did sixty nine ducks, didn't. 1542 01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:07.399 He Oh, well, yeah, he did dozens of ducks. Yeah. Yeah, 1543 01:17:07.479 --> 01:17:11.760 And then then he did a chorus all simultaneously anyway, 1544 01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:15.439 and bless his heart, he goes, you know, I'm not 1545 01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:17.159 feeling it, you know, I just. 1546 01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:21.319 Call Jimmy Cummings bringing wonderful and. 1547 01:17:25.560 --> 01:17:28.920 Unbelievable. So they brought me in and and they couldn't 1548 01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:30.560 figure out what to do with it. I think I've 1549 01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:32.800 told this before, but they got a legal pad and 1550 01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:36.720 they said, this character has to express every emotion possible, 1551 01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:40.039 but it has to be with a laugh, laughing hyena. 1552 01:17:40.399 --> 01:17:44.319 Oh okay, And I said, oh, okay, well here, let's 1553 01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:47.199 write right down, you know, so we're writing down insutions, 1554 01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:51.800 you know, reticence, you know, all all this every possible 1555 01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:55.279 and we I just stood there and for maybe thirty 1556 01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:59.600 five forty minutes I just laughed in every and I 1557 01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:04.159 just down the line. Click, Okay, there goes hesitation, you know, 1558 01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:07.039 and then we'd move on to the next one and 1559 01:18:07.199 --> 01:18:09.279 then and then at the end of it, he goes, 1560 01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:12.920 we've got in tour de force blah blah blah. And 1561 01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:15.600 I just thought, oh, this is this is big time. 1562 01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:17.600 And he recommended you. 1563 01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:21.079 Yeah, and he recommended me. And then before I left, 1564 01:18:22.920 --> 01:18:27.079 they were they were saying, so now you were you sing? 1565 01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:30.039 And I go, yes, I do, and they go, okay, 1566 01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:35.560 I want to hear a song and I said yeah, 1567 01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:39.920 And it was Jeremy Irons the Villain's song Villains get 1568 01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:42.920 the best song. That's the boy Villains get the best song, 1569 01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:45.600 Captain Hook or Peter Pan who had the better song? 1570 01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:49.920 Captain Hook? Uh so, and it was be pre Pad 1571 01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:54.159 and they played it and uh they played it down 1572 01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:56.520 and I said, oh, yeah, I can do that hell 1573 01:18:56.600 --> 01:18:58.479 out of this. Yeah, you know, but you have sound 1574 01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:02.199 like Jeremy Irons, so oh I uh, I sounded like 1575 01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:06.199 Jeremy Ironson and I got all this great platinum from Frank. 1576 01:19:06.279 --> 01:19:11.640 Welcome great and Frank when we did when we did 1577 01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:15.039 uh G I Joe and had to sing the song. 1578 01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:17.680 As we're walking all over sound, I couldn't stand next 1579 01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:21.319 to Frank because Frank can't sing. Frank's and made me 1580 01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:24.000 off thinking I can't sing either, but I can least 1581 01:19:24.199 --> 01:19:27.399 get close to one key and walking down there, we're 1582 01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:29.800 going ge I Joe, and I hear g I Joe 1583 01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:33.079 and I go okay, Frank, Okay, excuse me, I have 1584 01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:36.279 to get over here. Yeah, stand there here, Joe. Frank, 1585 01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:38.079 could you just move your lips because nobody's going to 1586 01:19:38.119 --> 01:19:40.239 know whether you're singing or not. Yeah, yeah, that's true, 1587 01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:43.239 because you're going to drive everybody crazy. And he's laughing 1588 01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:46.880 and he's going, gee, we go GI Joe Joe. 1589 01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:50.000 My god. Yeah, it's okay, Frank. You can do every 1590 01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:50.840 single other thing. 1591 01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:53.159 Don't have to that. You don't have to sing, you 1592 01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:55.399 don't have to dance. You're off the hook. We have 1593 01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:58.800 people for that, yes, right, absolutely, you know. 1594 01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:03.199 We've got people. Yeah, Frank is people. 1595 01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:05.880 Well, I think it's the time in the show where 1596 01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:07.760 we play a little game. I don't know if you're 1597 01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:12.119 aware of this game. It's called a voice swap games. 1598 01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:15.520 No, no, no, it's so. 1599 01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:18.520 How it works is Jim will do a voice line 1600 01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:20.479 of one of his characters, let's say Winnie the Pooh. 1601 01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:23.560 He'll say one of his catch phrases, and then you 1602 01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:26.319 will repeat that same phrase, but in one of your 1603 01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:29.840 character voices of your choosing, and then we'll switch the 1604 01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:32.079 roles and we'll do that a couple times back and forth. 1605 01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:32.359 Of your game. 1606 01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:34.199 Then you give me one of your guys. 1607 01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:35.520 Okay, what do you think. 1608 01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:40.199 One thing that we did together was dark Wing and Quackerjack. 1609 01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:44.079 Assuming you remember Quackerjack that I remember, I think I 1610 01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:46.640 was going to say, yeah, that would be good. So okay, 1611 01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:49.359 well I'll give you a dark Wing line and you 1612 01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:54.720 repeat it back as quacker Okay, okay, it's too easy 1613 01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:56.840 to go. Let's get dangerous because. 1614 01:20:57.520 --> 01:21:01.640 Hold it right there, Quackerjack, you're not pulling anybody. I'm 1615 01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:02.920 the good guy. 1616 01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:03.920 And you're the bad guy. 1617 01:21:07.399 --> 01:21:12.119 Hold it right there, quacker Jack, you're not fooling anybody. 1618 01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:19.319 I'm the you're the good guy, and I'm the bad guy, right, 1619 01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:20.279 banana head. 1620 01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:23.600 That's right? Oh yeah, I forgot banana head. That's right. 1621 01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:25.880 I love that, lad. That's good. 1622 01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:29.000 It's so memorable, very cool. It just brings me straight 1623 01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:34.199 back to childhood. Here, who's a character you'd like to do? 1624 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:39.479 Okay, Okay, we're gonna need a bigger boat. 1625 01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:49.960 And uh maybe maybe Pooh should should be Okay, we're 1626 01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:53.479 going to need a bigger boat. Love it, love it? 1627 01:21:54.079 --> 01:21:55.199 And who is the character? 1628 01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:56.840 That's Chucky's dad. 1629 01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:57.439 Okay, I thought so. 1630 01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:01.359 I thought that's from the movie. Yeah, Chucky's dad. I 1631 01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:05.159 have I have a personal request. Can you do Tigger 1632 01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:06.319 and the Fear? 1633 01:22:07.239 --> 01:22:08.000 Oh? Good god? 1634 01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:13.560 Okay. The wonderful thing about tiggers, it's tiggers. 1635 01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:19.359 They're wonderful things. A wonderful thing about tiggers is tiggers 1636 01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:20.399 is a wonderful thing. 1637 01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:23.920 Yes they are. 1638 01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:26.600 I'm just picturing them in the forest, crawling up the. 1639 01:22:30.479 --> 01:22:35.199 Tongue. But that's how you got the job, That's how 1640 01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:37.079 I got But I want to say, but no, folks, 1641 01:22:37.159 --> 01:22:39.520 but really, waiter please. 1642 01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:42.039 I feel like for the fans, we have to do 1643 01:22:42.199 --> 01:22:46.760 Duke Duke. Yeah, if that knowing is half the battle? Sorry, 1644 01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:47.479 can you do that again? 1645 01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:49.680 I was kind of talking over you knowing is half 1646 01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:51.600 the battle, And uh. 1647 01:22:52.039 --> 01:22:54.520 What's who played my who played my brother in the 1648 01:22:54.640 --> 01:23:01.279 movie John? What is the actor start in Miami TV 1649 01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:07.439 series Mamy Vice John Joe Edward James. 1650 01:23:07.479 --> 01:23:07.840 Almost. 1651 01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:11.199 No, No, I'm trying to think of his you know him. 1652 01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:14.079 He's very handsome and he always plays the sheriff and 1653 01:23:14.319 --> 01:23:17.479 he's his daughter is an actress. I think your name 1654 01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:27.079 is Dakota. Oh, moved, he played he played my brother 1655 01:23:27.199 --> 01:23:31.359 in the movie Don Johnson. Don Johnson's Don Johnson. So 1656 01:23:32.159 --> 01:23:35.760 knowing is half the battle? Screwed Don Johnson. 1657 01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:40.079 That sounds like a Bulker's line. 1658 01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:45.840 Knowing is half the battle. It's screwed Don Johnson. 1659 01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:49.680 That was terrible. 1660 01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:52.520 I feel like that would be like a canon Bonker's 1661 01:23:52.600 --> 01:23:55.640 line because he's you know, is in the industry. 1662 01:23:56.880 --> 01:23:57.560 Yeah, that's true. 1663 01:23:58.079 --> 01:23:59.479 Oh my god, do you want to do one more? 1664 01:23:59.479 --> 01:24:00.319 I'm loving this good. 1665 01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:04.199 Yes, go ahead, Okay, let's see who we got. 1666 01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:07.960 How about Hondo. It's it's yesterday, was made the fourth. 1667 01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:14.840 Yes, yes, that's true. It is a Hondo naka and 1668 01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:18.560 made the fold to be with you. Blah blah blah. 1669 01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:20.359 How about a smurf? 1670 01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:24.159 Okay, Oh yeah, it is I Hondo? 1671 01:24:24.319 --> 01:24:28.039 What Hondo naka, May the force be with you, Yes, 1672 01:24:28.199 --> 01:24:30.199 may the Vold be with you. Blah blah blah. 1673 01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:33.800 It is all right, Hondo and naka, I mean the horse, 1674 01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:37.199 the horse, All the force be with you. Thank you, Papa. 1675 01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:41.920 What is wrong with this picture besides everything? 1676 01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:43.359 And which voice was that? 1677 01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:49.079 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you could almost see you turned blue? 1678 01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:51.359 Look you're wearing a smurf blue. 1679 01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:54.039 Well, he has the smurf jackets a little bit smurfy. 1680 01:24:54.560 --> 01:25:00.079 I must tell you, you know, Alan Oppenheimer, I have 1681 01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:02.640 seen this, and I tell the story when I did Uh, 1682 01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:08.960 I was doing uh, this series with Mel blank and uh, 1683 01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:12.640 and he did this wonderful car you know he is 1684 01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:16.960 and he used to do that on the and the 1685 01:25:17.039 --> 01:25:19.000 thing was on that Jack Benny show. We do not 1686 01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:25.039 miss any And we're sitting there and uh, I'm doing 1687 01:25:25.239 --> 01:25:27.079 this the first time with Mel that I'm doing a 1688 01:25:27.079 --> 01:25:29.000 series with him, and he's sitting to my right, and 1689 01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:31.359 I'm sitting in world, sitting in seats meet him here 1690 01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:33.439 and me there and the rest of the cast here. 1691 01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:38.640 At which point, Uh, I'm the good guy. I'm the kid. 1692 01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:40.520 I'm always Oh, what do we do now, speed buggy, 1693 01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:44.840 We're really in trouble lies and he goes, Okay, here's 1694 01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:49.119 what I'm gonna do. But and he did that, and 1695 01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:58.319 he went okay. Then he came back. M I was 1696 01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:03.039 sopping wet. Oh really, because he doesn't there's no one 1697 01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:05.479 else in the room. It's just him, and he's great. 1698 01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:08.359 But he goes all the way and I'm stopping wet, 1699 01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:10.239 and I went I looked at him and went, Jesus, 1700 01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:12.840 I have a whole show to do. And every time 1701 01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:15.439 I said, oh, we're in trouble, speed buggy, he said, 1702 01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:20.760 I know, but I know, but look get out of it. Oh. 1703 01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:21.880 Christ came back. 1704 01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:26.840 The next show a spit guard. Oppenheimer was our guest, 1705 01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:30.039 and he was the bad guy. And I said, al 1706 01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:33.640 meet Mel blank, oh Mel, oh my god, this is 1707 01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:36.680 such a pleasure, such a treatment, say Alan Hawi is oh, 1708 01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:38.560 and this is so racion. And you know, since you're 1709 01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:40.479 the bad guy, most of your stuff is with him, 1710 01:26:40.479 --> 01:26:41.720 why don't you sit next to him? 1711 01:26:43.359 --> 01:26:43.920 Set him up? 1712 01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:46.239 And he sat next to him and these tall high 1713 01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:48.279 chairs you know they had the high cheers. Oh yeah, 1714 01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:51.079 that you could tip either way because it's but it's 1715 01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:54.119 the high and so he said, he and he has 1716 01:26:54.199 --> 01:26:56.920 his line, and I'm sitting I got my script over here, 1717 01:26:57.319 --> 01:27:00.279 and Alan's over here and Miller is over here. Which 1718 01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:03.920 point we start the thing And I say my line, Oh, 1719 01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:07.079 what are we doing now? We're really in trouble, speed buggy. 1720 01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:09.800 And then and Melo goes and I'm where about it? 1721 01:27:10.079 --> 01:27:16.479 We're okay? I see I see out of the corner 1722 01:27:16.479 --> 01:27:22.000 of my eye, I see Alan go oh. And he 1723 01:27:22.079 --> 01:27:25.039 looks at him like this, and he's back on his script. 1724 01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:29.000 And I was like, it says that in the script. 1725 01:27:29.159 --> 01:27:31.680 And he turns around and looks at me and I'm 1726 01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:34.920 back on my script. I'm not looking at you right right, 1727 01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:37.359 And he sits like this. And the next time we 1728 01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:39.239 have the line where he has a bad lie, where 1729 01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:41.319 can I get you? I says, no, you won't, No, 1730 01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:42.520 you won't. You haven't got me. 1731 01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:44.760 Oh god. 1732 01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:48.399 Then he goes back and Alan goes like this. And 1733 01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:52.079 then finally the next time he has that line, Alan 1734 01:27:52.159 --> 01:27:57.159 goes like this and tips the whole chair to the left. Oh, 1735 01:27:57.720 --> 01:28:01.319 as he's going, I have to tipped my chair to 1736 01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:05.399 the left. The actresses are tipping her and all of 1737 01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:08.560 us are like this through the whole show we're doing. 1738 01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:11.199 I think I think Gordon needed a dramnine. Then by 1739 01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:13.359 the time this was over, Yeah, yeah, you going back 1740 01:28:13.399 --> 01:28:16.279 and forth through the holes. Every time we were going 1741 01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:19.399 like this and we had a break, I got off 1742 01:28:19.439 --> 01:28:23.039 my chair real fast, went outside to the lot and 1743 01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:24.560 I went to the back of the lot because I 1744 01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:25.920 knew Alan was looking for me. 1745 01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:28.319 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 1746 01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:30.680 I could see him. You know. I looked around, and 1747 01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:32.840 I seem he's looking looking around for a tart. And 1748 01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:34.399 finally I know we have to get back and we 1749 01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:35.439 can't get it. 1750 01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:40.800 Oh my god. That was oh yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, Michael. Yeah, sure, 1751 01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:42.520 you don't want to trade seats? Oh my god. 1752 01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:43.000 God. 1753 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:45.680 And every time we had a bad guy, every time 1754 01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:47.399 we had a bad guy in the show, I'd sit 1755 01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:53.079 him next to next to it so good. I really mean, 1756 01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:56.079 you really got wet because he really spit. I mean 1757 01:28:56.159 --> 01:28:58.359 he he put his all his energy. 1758 01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:01.279 He knew that character, yeah, doing it for years. 1759 01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:03.880 But when he went, I mean you could see it. 1760 01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:07.680 He's like a European actor, really coming right right. 1761 01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:11.960 What didn't give up? Show Baz? Yes, Oh my god, 1762 01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:13.960 Oh that's wonderful. 1763 01:29:14.199 --> 01:29:14.760 That's great. 1764 01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:19.680 That's great. Marster our old friend. 1765 01:29:20.079 --> 01:29:24.640 And you sing like he sings. I am always amazed 1766 01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:28.159 that anyone who can sing, oh well, good thanks, so 1767 01:29:29.239 --> 01:29:31.000 distance from me, such a distance from me. 1768 01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:34.560 Yeah, well, you know it used to get me in 1769 01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:36.439 trouble as a kid. You know all this stuff. 1770 01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:38.319 Did you learn how to sing or did you just sing? 1771 01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:41.000 I just say, I just say, but it was like five, 1772 01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:44.439 you can keep a key, you you can stand pretty much? Yeah, yeah, wow, 1773 01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:45.399 you know. 1774 01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:46.239 I I used to. 1775 01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:50.560 I remember I was five, I was five or six, 1776 01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:54.399 and and I got my first transistor radio and those 1777 01:29:54.439 --> 01:29:56.800 were like a little deck of cars back then. And 1778 01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:59.039 I would just listen and I would have it under 1779 01:29:59.119 --> 01:30:02.239 my pillow and my mom wouldn't know. And then I 1780 01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:05.840 would go through a lot of batteries, you know, just listening. 1781 01:30:05.880 --> 01:30:08.119 And I would listen to singers, and I mean there 1782 01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:13.640 was Leslie Gore, there was Leslie. I mean god, I 1783 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:16.960 wanted to yeah. Yeah. And I just used to listen 1784 01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:18.640 to all those songs and hum them in my head. 1785 01:30:19.640 --> 01:30:23.159 And it was probably training and not knowing that I was, 1786 01:30:23.239 --> 01:30:26.359 not knowing you were doing it. Yeah, but yeah, and 1787 01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:28.880 then I then I think I was in my first band. 1788 01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:33.880 It was like eight eighth grade something like that. Sixth 1789 01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:34.680 seventh grade. 1790 01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:39.840 See, I'm I would. I would audition and sing never 1791 01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:43.800 get it. I mean I would study so hard, even learning. 1792 01:30:43.960 --> 01:30:46.760 I learned a song in French to audition for a 1793 01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:48.920 play that was had you had to sing in French 1794 01:30:49.039 --> 01:30:51.359 and I learned from a guy who was French. And 1795 01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:52.960 she'd work with me and work with me and work 1796 01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:56.800 with me, and I thought it was okay, and it wasn't. Yeah, 1797 01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:00.479 I do other stuff and every time I thought I'd sing, 1798 01:31:00.600 --> 01:31:06.000 and finally, I think it was Six Feet Under. The 1799 01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:08.760 series Six Feet Under had me come in an audition 1800 01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:12.199 for the director and I auditioned. I had long hair 1801 01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:14.439 and a beard and everything. And he said to me, 1802 01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:18.319 you have to sing a song. And I said what song? 1803 01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:21.960 I'll just find anything, So I said, okay. I used 1804 01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:24.840 to remember what do you get when you fall in love? 1805 01:31:25.039 --> 01:31:27.800 You get a little? And I sang the first couple 1806 01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:29.159 of phrases that he said, okay, thank. 1807 01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:29.479 You very much. 1808 01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:32.000 I said, well that's another thing I died with and 1809 01:31:32.119 --> 01:31:34.680 I left like agent call said, you got it, I said, 1810 01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:38.439 and now I'm gonna have to sing on camera? Are 1811 01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:41.600 you serious? I was so comfortable in the room I 1812 01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:45.039 didn't care because then I wouldn't get it. And so 1813 01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:46.880 what they did was, I said, and not only that, 1814 01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:49.479 there was music, and there was So they gave me 1815 01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:52.600 a little thing that I put in my ear and 1816 01:31:52.680 --> 01:31:56.600 I had a chorus behind me. And when they started 1817 01:31:56.600 --> 01:31:59.479 to play, I said, hit the key before you linked 1818 01:31:59.479 --> 01:32:04.520 to the I said, yeah, that's what they do. Yes, okay, 1819 01:32:05.119 --> 01:32:07.640 we are there. And then I would say and they go, okay, 1820 01:32:07.680 --> 01:32:10.439 that was good striding and I said, okay, that was okay. No, no, no, 1821 01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:13.920 we had some problems. I said, okay, this little thing. 1822 01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:16.680 I could hear them in my ear and I hear 1823 01:32:16.720 --> 01:32:20.159 them go and I know exactly where to go anywhere. 1824 01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:21.239 Yeah, that's right. 1825 01:32:21.479 --> 01:32:23.119 But other than that, I would have been dead. You 1826 01:32:23.239 --> 01:32:24.920 got that little sucker in my ear, I would have 1827 01:32:24.960 --> 01:32:25.399 been dead. 1828 01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:27.199 Because yeah, well you know that's a standard though. I 1829 01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:29.920 mean they always do that. Don't give you the note, Yeah, 1830 01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:34.439 like your note, like right before they record, they'll they'll 1831 01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:39.159 go boom and then you know, come in, what do 1832 01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:39.640 you again? 1833 01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:41.159 Shoot? Really? 1834 01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:43.399 Oh my god, yeah, they do that. 1835 01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:46.680 Because I got to tell you that that really it helps, 1836 01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:50.239 it must. But once I get past that, I could 1837 01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:51.560 start out with that. But I don't know if I 1838 01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:55.760 would end with that. Yeah, because don't forget doing Oliver 1839 01:32:55.800 --> 01:32:58.479 Twist and the Artful Dodger for Hannah Babera. And they 1840 01:32:58.560 --> 01:33:01.479 gave me Artful Dodger and I had to sing and 1841 01:33:01.640 --> 01:33:06.760 I said, wow, okay, but I don't really sing Jack Wilde. Yeah, 1842 01:33:06.800 --> 01:33:08.399 it was one of those things. I had to do that. 1843 01:33:08.520 --> 01:33:11.920 But the but what's his name from the monkeys who 1844 01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:12.520 used to sing? 1845 01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:14.159 Oh? David Jones? 1846 01:33:15.239 --> 01:33:19.560 Davy Jones auditioned for it. Did it off Broadway? 1847 01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:20.119 Yes? 1848 01:33:20.479 --> 01:33:23.600 And they gave it to me, And I'm thinking, what 1849 01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:26.960 I mean, what are they thinking? He did it? He 1850 01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:30.079 knows the role. Yeah, it's different dialogue because it's a cartoon. 1851 01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:34.000 I get it. But he gets to sing and he sings. 1852 01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:36.800 I don't sing. I said, yes, I did a good 1853 01:33:37.159 --> 01:33:40.000 thought English dialect, but he already has an English dialect. 1854 01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:40.399 Yeah. 1855 01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:43.800 They still, for whatever reason and wherever the gods were, 1856 01:33:43.880 --> 01:33:45.479 they said, now let's give it to Michael. Let's give 1857 01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:47.800 it because it was the starter for me. Hannibaber. That 1858 01:33:47.960 --> 01:33:50.359 was the starter for me. That's what started me down, 1859 01:33:50.439 --> 01:33:56.119 that whole Hanniba. And now I watch it and I cringe, literally, 1860 01:33:57.199 --> 01:34:02.000 I clench because it's so bad. It's so bad. I think. 1861 01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:03.159 I'm sure it's not. 1862 01:34:03.560 --> 01:34:06.159 What episode wasn't so that everyone can watch it bad. 1863 01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:07.520 It's bad, it's not good. 1864 01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:09.039 Watch what's a bad one? 1865 01:34:09.159 --> 01:34:10.880 WA's the bad one? That's a bad one. 1866 01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:12.399 That's the name of it. 1867 01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:15.119 Oh god, Well, this has been so great, so much. 1868 01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:16.359 Thank you so much for being here. 1869 01:34:16.439 --> 01:34:17.439 I really appreciate it. 1870 01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:19.800 Did you have anything else, Jim? And sorry, I didn't 1871 01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:20.399 want to cut you off. 1872 01:34:20.439 --> 01:34:23.479 And no, no, I'm just grateful that you took some 1873 01:34:23.640 --> 01:34:25.560 time out of your day to this was come and 1874 01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:26.039 hang out. 1875 01:34:26.279 --> 01:34:28.760 It was fun being late, it was fun. 1876 01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:30.920 Well, there's no such thing as late. 1877 01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:34.079 Okay that I got. I feel terrible on it. Just 1878 01:34:34.239 --> 01:34:36.119 it's not my nature. Yeah, you know what. 1879 01:34:36.439 --> 01:34:39.439 Honestly, as the person who you know sets this whole 1880 01:34:39.520 --> 01:34:43.960 thing up and arrives here early, it's much more stressful 1881 01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:47.560 for me when people are super early. Yes, yes, because 1882 01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:50.439 for some reason, I don't like being watched setting up 1883 01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:51.239 the equipment. 1884 01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:53.600 Yeah, like it stresses me out. 1885 01:34:53.800 --> 01:34:56.000 You'd be really bad in adult films. 1886 01:34:58.239 --> 01:35:00.279 No, but we've had a couple of guests who shown 1887 01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:03.399 up like forty five minutes early, and that's like when 1888 01:35:03.439 --> 01:35:07.159 I'm getting here, though, and I'm like, oh my god, like, okay, 1889 01:35:07.640 --> 01:35:09.720 I have to make small talk while setting up the 1890 01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:12.439 equipment and doing the tests and everything. And then I'm 1891 01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:14.800 usually you know, stressed out, so I start sweating and 1892 01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:16.479 you can see it through my shirt and then I'm 1893 01:35:16.479 --> 01:35:20.239 all self conscious. And and we had oh what was 1894 01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:28.880 her name? She played for Alfarbis in Austin Powers we 1895 01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:32.560 had last year and that happened. I was a little 1896 01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:35.840 late though as well. She wasn't super early. But I'm 1897 01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:37.960 setting up the equipment, I'm making small talk with her 1898 01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:40.119 and we had been to dinner at a couple conventions, 1899 01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:43.880 like she wasn't a stranger. And I'm setting up and 1900 01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:47.920 the ac this was a previous studio and the a 1901 01:35:48.039 --> 01:35:52.079 C had gone out that day. And it's right in Burbank. 1902 01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:54.920 It's like down the street, and thank god, we brought 1903 01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:57.640 a lot of host setting up and Mindy's there, Gym's there. 1904 01:35:57.800 --> 01:35:59.600 You know, they're both sitting there waiting for me to 1905 01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:04.920 get and I'm sweating, like sweating like no other and mindygos. 1906 01:36:04.720 --> 01:36:06.199 Oh my god, he's sweating. 1907 01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:14.840 I don't say anything about it that I'm like wiping myself. 1908 01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:17.199 And you know, when you're so hot. You can't cool down. 1909 01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:22.239 Especially, Yeah, all that pierced through my soul. 1910 01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:28.079 Of course, then you would have you would have really 1911 01:36:28.119 --> 01:36:30.159 been interested. In the early years of television. 1912 01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:30.880 And I was there. 1913 01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:35.039 They used in movies. They used those hot lights, really 1914 01:36:35.079 --> 01:36:38.039 hot lights, and I could just feel it begin to 1915 01:36:38.159 --> 01:36:42.640 run down. And I turn around and I'm looking Atlanta Turner. Wow, 1916 01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:46.479 and she's cool. She's in her late sixties or something. 1917 01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:49.520 She's cool. She's looking into the lights and I want 1918 01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:52.439 to go because I can't see. It's like Cleig lights. 1919 01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:54.239 And they don't do that anymore, but there was a 1920 01:36:54.279 --> 01:36:56.399 period of time, but literally it was like Cleag lights. 1921 01:36:57.039 --> 01:36:58.520 And I would get on the set and I go, 1922 01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:01.399 I literally, how am I going to not do this? 1923 01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:05.279 Or the whole thing? And I'd watch these actresses, Barbara 1924 01:37:05.319 --> 01:37:08.960 Stanwick cool like this, give me a give me a 1925 01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:10.600 give me a bastard amber, and give me a thing. 1926 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:14.720 And the lights are piercing hot, and she's cool and comfortable, 1927 01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:19.000 and I'm in Texas Western gear and my boots are 1928 01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:22.560 filling up. And Jessus, I have no idea how they 1929 01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:25.319 did that. Those ladies they just steal them. They were 1930 01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:29.560 steal They steel themselves against those hot lights, and they 1931 01:37:29.640 --> 01:37:32.560 look fresh. No one ever would come in and dab them, right, 1932 01:37:33.279 --> 01:37:35.119 I mean I I'd get off the set, and I 1933 01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:37.319 was always the last shout of the day. Jew I mean, 1934 01:37:37.319 --> 01:37:41.000 I always always sweating like this and always patted me down. 1935 01:37:41.039 --> 01:37:43.439 I'm putting on more stuff and more backup. By the 1936 01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:45.199 end of the day you could. 1937 01:37:45.079 --> 01:37:45.720 Peel it off. 1938 01:37:46.279 --> 01:37:49.119 And these gals just always look you leave me alone. 1939 01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:51.399 I'm fine, don't touch my hair, don't touch my face. 1940 01:37:51.439 --> 01:37:56.279 I'm fine, queen, but gorgeous, but gorgeous and look great. 1941 01:37:56.279 --> 01:38:00.960 And then women were, they were, they were, you were older, 1942 01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:04.560 and that attorney came over and introduced herself to me. Wow, hi, 1943 01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:08.600 I'm not a turner. What's your name? I remember? 1944 01:38:09.720 --> 01:38:10.239 Michael Bell? 1945 01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:12.479 Michael Bell. Do I have any scenes with you? I said, 1946 01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:14.880 I don't think so, miss Turner. She said, well, I'll 1947 01:38:14.920 --> 01:38:17.199 see you later, and she walked away, and I thought, 1948 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:19.039 any bad. 1949 01:38:19.319 --> 01:38:22.359 Wow, not a turner, My god, wow. 1950 01:38:22.439 --> 01:38:23.680 I would tell that to some kids. 1951 01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:29.319 Who oh yeah, who, yeah, that's no fair. No, yeah. 1952 01:38:29.439 --> 01:38:32.520 You have to know. There's a famous story about Shelley Winter. 1953 01:38:32.680 --> 01:38:36.840 She went into read for something, you know, well into 1954 01:38:36.880 --> 01:38:40.840 her career, and the girl that was like twenty years old, 1955 01:38:41.159 --> 01:38:45.319 and you're here to read and your name please, I'm 1956 01:38:45.399 --> 01:38:49.680 Shelley Winter, Shelley so h no, wait no, it's s 1957 01:38:49.960 --> 01:38:52.279 s H E L L. Eat. Now is that like 1958 01:38:52.319 --> 01:38:55.279 an E y or just a just okay, just a 1959 01:38:55.359 --> 01:38:57.920 why winter? Is it winter or Winters? 1960 01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:00.239 What is it's us? 1961 01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:04.159 Wait right here? And she went home, got her oscar, 1962 01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:10.640 brought it back. She goes, I'm Shelley Winters. Okay, right, 1963 01:39:10.760 --> 01:39:13.640 tell him I'm here and so it is my oscar. 1964 01:39:14.840 --> 01:39:18.359 Oh right, that win Winters. 1965 01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:21.319 Yeah, who is it? Who is the famous director went 1966 01:39:21.319 --> 01:39:23.760 through a very very similar experience and they said, uh, 1967 01:39:24.439 --> 01:39:27.880 what have you done? He said, you start first, you 1968 01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:30.920 go first. Yeah, it was a very famous director. That's 1969 01:39:31.880 --> 01:39:34.239 really really Billy Wild or someone like that. 1970 01:39:34.399 --> 01:39:36.119 Oh wow, yes, he said, you first. 1971 01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:38.359 This Lily said this little kay, you talked about it 1972 01:39:38.399 --> 01:39:41.319 on television, little casting director, he said. The kid looked 1973 01:39:41.359 --> 01:39:44.720 like he still needed clearer sue. He was the casting director. 1974 01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:46.279 And he said, and what have you done? He said, 1975 01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:49.279 you first? That's pretty good. That's not bad. 1976 01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:52.720 I get yeah, I'll have to remember that. Hopefully I'll 1977 01:39:52.760 --> 01:39:53.239 never use it. 1978 01:39:53.920 --> 01:39:56.960 No, you you will, when they you will. I told 1979 01:39:57.000 --> 01:39:59.199 you that, I think did I tell you that? B 1980 01:39:59.359 --> 01:40:01.920 J Ward he was in the in the booth next 1981 01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:03.800 was in the thing next to me at one of 1982 01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:05.920 the cons and the guy came over to her table 1983 01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:09.600 and he said, you were in in in the dog 1984 01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:11.680 thing went for Hada my bear with the house Scooby, 1985 01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:14.119 Scooby doing She said, yes, you were mona whatever the 1986 01:40:14.159 --> 01:40:16.920 hely CaCu. She's yes, Oh my godd, you do that voice. 1987 01:40:16.960 --> 01:40:19.199 Oh my godd, you do that. So she said sure. 1988 01:40:19.319 --> 01:40:22.079 She said, okay, Scoob, we're in trouble and blah blah blah, 1989 01:40:22.119 --> 01:40:26.720 et cetera. And he went, no, that's not it. How 1990 01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:27.359 do you love that? 1991 01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:30.199 Yeah? Yeah, how do you? 1992 01:40:30.239 --> 01:40:31.680 I mean, you don't have that problem because you know 1993 01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:35.079 your voice is Yeah. But but just to say no, 1994 01:40:35.279 --> 01:40:37.600 that's not my friend, Marshall Wallace, the late Marshal Wallace, 1995 01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:42.279 rest her soul. Sure, And someone stopped once and she said, 1996 01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:45.399 you know, I didn't think you were that funny when 1997 01:40:45.479 --> 01:40:48.800 I saw you in this last Bob Nohart show. And 1998 01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:53.439 marsh said, where do you see critique me on my forehead? Yeah? 1999 01:40:53.720 --> 01:40:59.600 Yeah, yeah, anywhere. I'll show you something else you want 2000 01:40:59.600 --> 01:40:59.920 to see it? 2001 01:41:00.239 --> 01:41:01.239 Yeah, critique me. 2002 01:41:01.840 --> 01:41:05.000 Yeah, a little person who now go back and watch 2003 01:41:05.039 --> 01:41:09.359 your TV, go back and work at Arby's and yeah, yeah, 2004 01:41:09.560 --> 01:41:13.880 and enjoy Enjoy. We have the meets Enjoy Wheel of Fortune. 2005 01:41:13.960 --> 01:41:14.439 That's funny. 2006 01:41:15.439 --> 01:41:17.920 If you're a fan of everything we do here at 2007 01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:20.760 tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support the show 2008 01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:25.479 on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts, as well as early 2009 01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:29.520 in ad free access to the show itself, prize drawings, 2010 01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:32.680 and more. You'll feel the difference, so go ahead and 2011 01:41:32.840 --> 01:41:36.479 join the tuned In family today at patreon dot com 2012 01:41:36.720 --> 01:41:39.960 slash Jim Cummings Podcast Do It Now. 2013 01:41:41.079 --> 01:41:44.760 I did talk to a really wonderful actress who was 2014 01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:47.920 nominated for Academy What you never mentioned names, who's an 2015 01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:52.159 old friend, been around for years, merrill something no, no, okay, 2016 01:41:52.319 --> 01:41:54.800 along that line, at her period in her life Oka 2017 01:41:55.279 --> 01:41:58.159 and BC comes out. She's older at this point, and 2018 01:41:58.520 --> 01:42:01.319 I wanted to get her work, so I said, my 2019 01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:03.119 agent would be glad to take you on if you 2020 01:42:03.159 --> 01:42:05.079 want to do a con. She said, I don't know. 2021 01:42:05.319 --> 01:42:08.560 I don't do that, sweetheart. I said, yeah, but you've 2022 01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:11.279 told me you live in New York. You've got two roommates. 2023 01:42:11.319 --> 01:42:14.560 In New York. Yeah, and you get invited to stuff 2024 01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:16.600 because you are who you are and people wanted to 2025 01:42:16.640 --> 01:42:19.800 get your autograph. You may not have to go to 2026 01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:21.439 the event if you don't want to. She said, I 2027 01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:24.239 would never do that now for a million years a 2028 01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:27.920 million dollars. And I said, yeah, I understand, Okay, I 2029 01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:31.439 want put myself in that position. I said, okay, what 2030 01:42:31.600 --> 01:42:35.520 you can do is sign the autographs at home. You 2031 01:42:35.640 --> 01:42:37.319 have all your pictures, that said. And she says, I 2032 01:42:37.359 --> 01:42:40.520 don't need I don't do that. That's embarrassing. And I thought, 2033 01:42:40.600 --> 01:42:41.800 you know, I said, you know, there's a lot of 2034 01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:44.960 people and I'm telling her that I do it. Yeah, 2035 01:42:45.439 --> 01:42:47.079 And I tell her the kind of money that a 2036 01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:50.399 name can get. And I said, I do okay on lines, 2037 01:42:50.439 --> 01:42:52.640 but I don't do what he does. I don't do 2038 01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:58.239 what Frank Welker does. I don't do what Mark Hamill does. 2039 01:42:58.840 --> 01:43:01.119 But those guys said, you know, they can they can 2040 01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:03.479 walk away with twenty thirty forty thousand dollars for a 2041 01:43:03.520 --> 01:43:06.239 weekend of fifty thousand. You could do that. You're that 2042 01:43:06.479 --> 01:43:08.800 big a name. You were in a big, major motion 2043 01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:11.079 and you had been a number of motion pictures. But 2044 01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:14.479 the major Motion picture nominated for me. I think you've 2045 01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:16.079 got that. I don't even knows she got the Academo, 2046 01:43:16.199 --> 01:43:18.680 but she was nominated for an Academy award. Everybody knows 2047 01:43:18.720 --> 01:43:21.880 who you are. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't embarrass myself, said, okay. 2048 01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:24.000 I never talked to her again. 2049 01:43:25.079 --> 01:43:25.520 I hung up. 2050 01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:27.920 I said, okay, no, swet, I wasn't angry. I said, okay, 2051 01:43:28.359 --> 01:43:30.800 it's embarrassing to me because you're saying that I'm a 2052 01:43:31.079 --> 01:43:34.000 I'm a performing monkey. Yeah, and it kisses me off. 2053 01:43:34.560 --> 01:43:38.760 So I hung up and took her off my email list. 2054 01:43:38.840 --> 01:43:42.199 And she calls me all the time for personal reasons 2055 01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:45.479 because she's got some adjititive shit going on back here. 2056 01:43:45.880 --> 01:43:47.800 And I've always helped her, and I've always assisted, and 2057 01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:49.960 I've gone to see her, and you know, I've seen 2058 01:43:50.039 --> 01:43:51.560 him when I've gone to New York. I spent some 2059 01:43:51.640 --> 01:43:54.640 time with there. That's it. You get to do that 2060 01:43:54.760 --> 01:43:58.520 to me only once. Yeah, I may have a little 2061 01:43:58.520 --> 01:44:01.199 Italian in me because it's that kind Yeah, yeah, sure, 2062 01:44:01.279 --> 01:44:06.359 that little thing, you know, Yeah, absolutely, I believe. How 2063 01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:08.960 dare you? How dare you? 2064 01:44:09.279 --> 01:44:11.359 I said? I told her, I said, you know who's 2065 01:44:11.600 --> 01:44:12.720 to send to hang out with me. 2066 01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:16.359 I said, you know who's standing next to me. I 2067 01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:19.399 told about the three or four well known actors, big 2068 01:44:19.560 --> 01:44:23.680 stars alongside doing really well, you know, because she doesn't 2069 01:44:23.680 --> 01:44:25.760 know anybody else. She knows the big movie stars. 2070 01:44:26.680 --> 01:44:27.319 I wouldn't do that. 2071 01:44:27.439 --> 01:44:28.119 It's embarrassing. 2072 01:44:28.600 --> 01:44:31.079 Yeah, yeah, that's right there. 2073 01:44:31.279 --> 01:44:34.439 Yeah, that sure is. Yeah. You go there and have 2074 01:44:34.520 --> 01:44:36.680 people fawn all over you well, and then they'll give 2075 01:44:36.720 --> 01:44:41.960 you money. Yeah, so I don't blame you. Who needs that? Yeah, 2076 01:44:42.159 --> 01:44:42.600 I mean, I. 2077 01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:45.880 Said, I said, you make I understand if you make 2078 01:44:46.199 --> 01:44:49.439 them happy, they're so glad to meet you. You're doing 2079 01:44:49.560 --> 01:44:52.000 something nice. You had a chunking down some cash for it. 2080 01:44:52.319 --> 01:44:54.880 And sometimes you don't take cash. Sometimes you say, sweetheart, 2081 01:44:55.039 --> 01:44:57.840 especially if it's somebody who's who came out of the 2082 01:44:57.880 --> 01:45:01.239 oven too soon, you know you, I see that's not necessary. 2083 01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:02.399 There's no problem. 2084 01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:03.760 We know those guys. 2085 01:45:03.880 --> 01:45:05.560 I'm glad to give you an autograph. You don't have 2086 01:45:05.600 --> 01:45:07.960 to pay. It's okay, you know, really, and they're crying 2087 01:45:08.039 --> 01:45:11.079 and standing at the table, but they you know, they 2088 01:45:11.720 --> 01:45:13.319 that's my feeling. They do they come out and be 2089 01:45:13.319 --> 01:45:15.680 able to do soon. I'm really glad to help them 2090 01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:17.880 I'm really glad to do it because they're very sweet. 2091 01:45:18.199 --> 01:45:20.680 Yeah, they sure are you and I know what it 2092 01:45:20.760 --> 01:45:21.960 means to have baked or not. 2093 01:45:22.359 --> 01:45:24.920 You know, and then and everybody else, everybody else is 2094 01:45:24.960 --> 01:45:28.119 so thrilled to meet you. Nope, she wasn't having. 2095 01:45:27.960 --> 01:45:28.319 Any of it. 2096 01:45:28.439 --> 01:45:30.640 Yeah, I mean, I even you know, I travel with 2097 01:45:30.760 --> 01:45:33.039 Jim to some of these conventions. Like I said, by 2098 01:45:33.079 --> 01:45:34.560 the way, did you guys know that we're doing the 2099 01:45:34.600 --> 01:45:37.159 podcast live? If fan Expo is here, that's true, check 2100 01:45:37.199 --> 01:45:39.439 out the beginning and then for the episode to see 2101 01:45:39.479 --> 01:45:42.079 the dates. But when I travel with Jim, sometimes, you know, 2102 01:45:42.119 --> 01:45:44.640 I'll be sitting by you at your table or whatever, 2103 01:45:44.760 --> 01:45:47.079 or even just walking through the convention, and I'll have 2104 01:45:47.119 --> 01:45:50.039 people go Chris, and I look, and I'll think it's 2105 01:45:50.079 --> 01:45:55.920 like somebody and hey, and I love the podcast. You know, 2106 01:45:56.039 --> 01:45:58.840 you do such a great job. And it always takes 2107 01:45:58.920 --> 01:46:01.079 me back because you know, like the mode I'm in 2108 01:46:01.279 --> 01:46:04.119 is like this is like, I mean, I love the job, 2109 01:46:04.199 --> 01:46:06.520 but it's work, you know, Like I'm working right now, 2110 01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:09.079 and so I don't even think about like the back 2111 01:46:09.199 --> 01:46:11.159 end of like when it airs, because like pretty much 2112 01:46:11.239 --> 01:46:13.600 my job for the episode ends when it's edited. And 2113 01:46:13.680 --> 01:46:15.239 we put it out, you know, and I'm on to 2114 01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:18.039 the next guest or whatever, you know, doing my research 2115 01:46:18.119 --> 01:46:20.000 or whatever. So it always takes me back when people 2116 01:46:20.039 --> 01:46:24.239 are like, yeah, oh, I know you, and I'm like, yeah, wow, yeah, but. 2117 01:46:24.279 --> 01:46:28.760 It's so important. I was at Jack Angel's funeral over 2118 01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:31.319 in the Forest Lawn and he was in the army, 2119 01:46:31.600 --> 01:46:36.279 so they had a whole the flag and the whole thing, 2120 01:46:36.399 --> 01:46:39.119 and they went down and and Arlene was sitting there 2121 01:46:39.199 --> 01:46:41.760 and we were also, and someone got up to make 2122 01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:45.199 a declaration. It was one of his closest fans, and 2123 01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:47.640 she was so hard felt. My wife turned around, she's 2124 01:46:48.600 --> 01:46:51.319 I never want to hear any of these people ever 2125 01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:54.319 complain about fans, because every now and then someone says 2126 01:46:54.359 --> 01:46:59.079 things I said, you don't hear mak I'm thrilled to death. 2127 01:46:59.439 --> 01:47:02.800 She said, look at that. How important he was to that? 2128 01:47:03.079 --> 01:47:05.000 Yeah? Oh god, yeah she was. 2129 01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:08.520 She just was literally she was caught up, and Arlie 2130 01:47:08.680 --> 01:47:10.079 was in the front. She knew she'd be there, you know, 2131 01:47:10.199 --> 01:47:12.920 she's and there are fans that, you know, you have 2132 01:47:13.199 --> 01:47:15.800 certain fans that are just locked in. You have a 2133 01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:17.279 lot of fans, but then there are certain fans that 2134 01:47:17.319 --> 01:47:21.439 are just oh god, it's you. Yeah, yeah, keep coming back. 2135 01:47:21.520 --> 01:47:24.319 Yeah. Well, you know, I don't flatter myself, but I 2136 01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:28.960 will say that Winnie the Pooh has uh he just 2137 01:47:29.199 --> 01:47:32.840 is such a an icon to so so so many people. Yes, 2138 01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:37.199 you know, and uh and there you know, and sometimes 2139 01:47:37.279 --> 01:47:39.760 it's it's a little funny because you know, the husband 2140 01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:41.199 will be there and he'll be like fifty and his 2141 01:47:41.319 --> 01:47:44.159 wife's there and she's forty something, you know, and she 2142 01:47:44.319 --> 01:47:48.520 can't talk because she's too busy crying and and you know, 2143 01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:50.960 and then oh, what do your sweet you know, give 2144 01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:53.039 her some Pooh and him and then then it's all 2145 01:47:53.119 --> 01:47:57.079 over with. Then she's incapacitated and and he's stand and everyone. 2146 01:47:57.520 --> 01:48:01.920 She really likes she really does, you know. I'm just 2147 01:48:02.039 --> 01:48:05.680 telling you she really really. I mean, we have like 2148 01:48:05.880 --> 01:48:10.239 forty dolls and dolls you know, and you. 2149 01:48:10.279 --> 01:48:13.880 Know from when she was a kid. That's so funny. Well, 2150 01:48:13.960 --> 01:48:16.800 thank you God bless her. So I always give her 2151 01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:18.079 the extra you know whatever. 2152 01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:21.439 Of course, no, that's so funny, but it's so sweet. 2153 01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:22.079 I love it. 2154 01:48:22.079 --> 01:48:23.399 It's very very sweet. 2155 01:48:23.439 --> 01:48:28.600 And yeah, animation fans are I don't know, huge huge huge, 2156 01:48:28.680 --> 01:48:32.359 I mean, and you can see and my theory is 2157 01:48:32.399 --> 01:48:34.680 that it transports you back to when you're five. Yeah, 2158 01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:37.560 everything was pretty good when you were five. Yeah, everything 2159 01:48:37.640 --> 01:48:38.239 was good. Yeah. 2160 01:48:38.680 --> 01:48:40.720 But I've heard I've heard people say things about some 2161 01:48:40.840 --> 01:48:44.119 stars that were really nasty. Yeah, so I were really cold, 2162 01:48:44.199 --> 01:48:45.920 you know, right, I have to keep going. I'm sorry, 2163 01:48:46.039 --> 01:48:46.880 I'll be something behind you. 2164 01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:48.239 Who's got the time for that? 2165 01:48:48.279 --> 01:48:53.199 Excuse me? That's you know this, it's adulation. So it's like, 2166 01:48:53.319 --> 01:48:55.960 I know that feeling that I had for Bamby, and 2167 01:48:57.039 --> 01:48:59.479 we have that feeling for Thumper and the people that 2168 01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:04.000 I grew up with, and certainly was stymied by talking 2169 01:49:04.079 --> 01:49:07.000 to Lana Turner and you know, and do you remember 2170 01:49:07.079 --> 01:49:12.000 Louis Hayward. Louis Hayward. Louis Hayward was a very well 2171 01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:16.399 known actor. He always did swashbucklers and he was he 2172 01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:18.600 was if you look up Louis Hayward. He did some 2173 01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:21.039 wonderful swashman And I remember as a fan, Jony and 2174 01:49:21.079 --> 01:49:23.960 I were big fans of Louie Hayward because he played 2175 01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:28.279 the Scarlet Pimpernel character opposite Bennie Barnes, who was the Queen. 2176 01:49:28.840 --> 01:49:32.439 And this is we're talking forties movie stars and and 2177 01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:35.520 he would go downstairs. He'd go down and he'd have 2178 01:49:35.560 --> 01:49:37.359 a side kicking okay now, and he put on his 2179 01:49:37.520 --> 01:49:40.960 mask and do his thing and his swash. But next 2180 01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:43.159 to her he would be like this, and he would 2181 01:49:43.199 --> 01:49:45.000 talk like this, and he said, oh, your majesty, and 2182 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:46.920 he'd take a fan and go like this and really 2183 01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:48.840 be devil the hell out of the sheriff. For whoever 2184 01:49:48.920 --> 01:49:51.439 that guy was always hated him. He said, your majesty, 2185 01:49:52.199 --> 01:49:54.560 and he do he played his very feet with a 2186 01:49:54.680 --> 01:49:57.119 dot here and the wig, and then he'd go down 2187 01:49:57.199 --> 01:49:59.279 and then come to go take up okay, quick patcho, 2188 01:49:59.479 --> 01:50:03.760 and he'd go the thing and writing out and a 2189 01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:08.159 mazarro almost like well, we loved him. And I did 2190 01:50:08.199 --> 01:50:11.560 a Survivors the woman I did with the lanitary, and 2191 01:50:11.760 --> 01:50:14.840 he's doing the scene with me, and I am jelled, 2192 01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:17.279 I am so excited and he and he's ready to 2193 01:50:17.319 --> 01:50:18.800 do the scene, I said, and the dregs says, okay, 2194 01:50:18.800 --> 01:50:20.439 we're ready to go, and I said, okay a second, 2195 01:50:20.479 --> 01:50:23.159 I said, I just have to tell you you did 2196 01:50:23.359 --> 01:50:24.960 and I think I was filled a scar of pimpernel 2197 01:50:25.039 --> 01:50:28.079 or something like that, whatever those dashing things, and he said, yes, 2198 01:50:28.119 --> 01:50:31.319 I said, and you did the first Betty Davis impression 2199 01:50:31.439 --> 01:50:33.680 ever done in movies. And he went, what I went, 2200 01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:40.159 you went your majesty where he lost it? He absolutely 2201 01:50:40.199 --> 01:50:43.319 lost it. He said, how old are you? You wait 2202 01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:45.640 a minute, kid, I said, in my thirties, he said, 2203 01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:49.399 and you remembered, I said. He said, that's oh my god. 2204 01:50:49.439 --> 01:50:52.439 He just roared and wo. So now we're doing the scene. 2205 01:50:52.600 --> 01:50:55.159 He's off camera. I'm sitting there, supposed to be in 2206 01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:57.720 a lobby of a hotel. I'm supposed to mark him 2207 01:50:57.720 --> 01:50:59.840 because I'm going to kill him. And I have a newspaper, 2208 01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:04.239 you know, all shot cameras here, newspaper shout over on 2209 01:51:04.319 --> 01:51:06.960 my shoulder. I lowered the newspaper and they watched my 2210 01:51:07.079 --> 01:51:09.600 eyes follow him, and they watched miss He's going off, 2211 01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:11.800 and just before he goes at a camera view, he goes, 2212 01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:20.199 that's great. It was such a long shot. 2213 01:51:20.359 --> 01:51:21.199 I didn't dare. 2214 01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:25.319 I didn't dare fall apart. I just wanted to go ship. 2215 01:51:27.039 --> 01:51:34.279 But he went, oh, just as oh my god, I said, 2216 01:51:34.680 --> 01:51:35.720 snow we had went. 2217 01:51:38.199 --> 01:51:40.800 Man. She said, Mikey No. I said, yeah, oh, Mikey. 2218 01:51:41.079 --> 01:51:43.840 We were so excited because we were both big fans 2219 01:51:43.880 --> 01:51:47.920 of his and that particular movie. Wow, and you kept 2220 01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:52.439 it together, kept it together. That was hard, Yes, that 2221 01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:54.479 was that was difficult. 2222 01:51:54.079 --> 01:51:57.119 Keeping no kidding, that's good story. 2223 01:51:57.279 --> 01:52:01.359 This was a treat guys, Jesus chat. 2224 01:52:02.159 --> 01:52:05.079 That was so great, fantastic and thank you guys all 2225 01:52:05.199 --> 01:52:07.079 for watching out there. We really appreciate you. 2226 01:52:07.239 --> 01:52:10.560 Like I said before, we have a live podcast right 2227 01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:12.680 now in partnership with fan xpo. Let me give you 2228 01:52:12.720 --> 01:52:14.800 the dates one more time. Let me pull them up here. 2229 01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:17.239 The next one that will be at is Philadelphia, May 2230 01:52:17.279 --> 01:52:19.039 twenty nine to the thirty first, and once again this 2231 01:52:19.159 --> 01:52:22.159 is fan xpo. We're doing a live podcast very similar 2232 01:52:22.199 --> 01:52:24.840 to this, similar to a panel. It's a little more 2233 01:52:24.960 --> 01:52:27.680 panelish when we do the live podcast just because of 2234 01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:30.760 the format, but it's nice to it's nice to have 2235 01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:33.680 the audience involved and to have you guys watch it 2236 01:52:33.760 --> 01:52:35.840 live and then if you're not able to make it, 2237 01:52:35.920 --> 01:52:37.520 then you can see it on YouTube. We post all 2238 01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:40.720 of them on YouTube. The one after Philadelphia is Chicago 2239 01:52:40.760 --> 01:52:44.279 August fourteenth to the sixteenth, Toronto August twenty seventh to 2240 01:52:44.359 --> 01:52:48.279 the thirtieth, Dallas September eleventh to thirteenth, and San Francisco 2241 01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:51.119 November twenty seven to twenty ninth, and there are more 2242 01:52:51.239 --> 01:52:53.520 dates being added. There's a couple that we've done that 2243 01:52:53.640 --> 01:52:55.640 are not on this list, so pay sure to check 2244 01:52:55.720 --> 01:53:01.520 that out on the podcast page, on YouTube, on Instagram, 2245 01:53:01.680 --> 01:53:05.039 Jim's Instagram, any, Jim's website, Jim Cummings World. All of 2246 01:53:05.079 --> 01:53:08.560 it's posted all up there, sky and we really hope 2247 01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:09.439 you enjoyed this episode. 2248 01:53:09.439 --> 01:53:09.640 I did. 2249 01:53:09.720 --> 01:53:11.119 This was a great one. I think I had a 2250 01:53:11.159 --> 01:53:12.920 lot of fun. Thank you so much, Michael Bell for 2251 01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:16.840 being really well And if you like this content so 2252 01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:18.319 much that you want to find more of it, I 2253 01:53:18.399 --> 01:53:21.359 have good news for you. Tuned In with Jim Cummings 2254 01:53:21.439 --> 01:53:23.760 is on Patreon as well. You can find bonus episodes 2255 01:53:23.800 --> 01:53:26.560 that are not aired anywhere else. You can find extended 2256 01:53:26.680 --> 01:53:27.600 little featurettes. 2257 01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:27.800 You know. 2258 01:53:27.880 --> 01:53:31.279 We put a little ten twenty minutes extended episodes on there. 2259 01:53:31.319 --> 01:53:33.960 We have contest giveaways, all that good stuff. So check 2260 01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:36.840 out check out now, I can't talk, It's okay. Just 2261 01:53:36.960 --> 01:53:39.840 check out to Do with Jim Cummings on Patreon as well. 2262 01:53:40.520 --> 01:53:43.159 And with all that said and done, once again, I'm 2263 01:53:43.199 --> 01:53:46.960 producer Chris the Legend himself, mister Jim Cummings and the 2264 01:53:47.079 --> 01:53:49.840 other legend himself, mister Michael Bell. Thank you again so 2265 01:53:49.960 --> 01:53:51.800 much for being here, and we will see you all 2266 01:53:52.359 --> 01:53:52.960 in the next one. 2267 01:53:53.319 --> 01:53:55.119 TD boo, Yeah that was cool. 2268 01:53:58.239 --> 01:54:02.039 Our podcast has partnered with the largest comic con in 2269 01:54:02.119 --> 01:54:07.199 North America, fan Expo, the Juggernaut. We're touring all over 2270 01:54:07.319 --> 01:54:11.079 North America live, so get your tickets and come be 2271 01:54:11.199 --> 01:54:14.000 a part of the live audience. It'll be fun. Go 2272 01:54:14.159 --> 01:54:17.960 to fanexpohq dot com for the tickets. We'll see you 2273 01:54:18.199 --> 01:54:21.079 in a city near you or a little bit away, 2274 01:54:21.159 --> 01:54:24.399 but you can drive. Thanks for tuning in to Tuned 2275 01:54:24.439 --> 01:54:25.600 In with Jim Cummings