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Speaker 1: Well, it looks like it's time for a brand new

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episode of the Shirley you Can't Be Serious Podcast. And

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that's such a fine sight to see. D Graves, you

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might have the moon in your eyes, and Jason Colvin

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your smile may be a thin disguise, but why don't

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you come to your senses? It seems to me some

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fine matchups have been laid upon your table. So don't

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let the sound of your own podcast drive you crazy.

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To everybody else out there, whether you're sleeping in the

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desert tonight or standing on a corner checking out all

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the flatbed forwards, just take it easy, because the Surely

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you Can't Be Serious Podcast is about to take it

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to the limit one more time.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, welcome back to the only podcast fueled

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by Jolt Cola and cool Ranch Doritos. Cool ch actually

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are ideal, But I was starting to death. I was shaky,

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and I was like, do you have chips? And I

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just I just sat there and read stuff about the

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Eagles and just got crumbs all over my Hyes, how's

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it going to everybody?

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Speaker 3: Good to see you again.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Surely you Can't Be Serious Podcast.

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We are here today to talk about arguably one of

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the best albums of all time.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is a compilation album. It's a compilation album,

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which is kind of cheating a little but but you're

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you're absolutely right, Like pound for pound, there are like

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ten perfect songs on this album.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh. And there are ten songs on this album, right,

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and so yeah, So the interesting thing is is that

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this album was a record company decision and not a

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band decision.

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Speaker 3: Okay, before you go any further, let's just say this

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out front. Yeah, this is the greatest selling album of all.

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Speaker 2: Time according to most accepted statistics. Yes, that is correct,

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Glenn Fry said.

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Speaker 3: I watched him say that it's sold a million copies

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a month for eighteen months in a row.

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Speaker 2: A week, is that right, a week week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot of albums.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole lot of freaking This is the first

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album to ever receive a platinum certain certification. It has

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since gone thirty eight times platinum. Like, I don't know

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how many of that is, but that's a dad gum lot.

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He got passed for a time as the best selling

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album of the twentieth century by Thriller.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but then regained its title in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: All right, now I just want to do a quick recap.

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We have covered Thriller. Yes, we are now covering Eagles

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Greatest Hits Volume one. Yes, we've covered acdc's Back in Black.

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We've checked off some big.

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Speaker 2: Sellers, some very big sellers. Yes, And I was, you know,

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talking about bands that are the biggest selling bands of

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all time. Eagles are number six on bands now a

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solo artist. There are several more, you know, get Michael

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Jackson and Taylor Swift, all these other folks, right, but

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band wise, there are only five bands that have sold

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more albums than the Eagles. Would you like to guess?

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Speaker 3: Well, you pose this question to me today. Yeah, And

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right off the bat, I got three out of the

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five you did, And then I was like, and then

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the last two when you gave them to me, I

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was like, oh, yeah, that's easy.

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Speaker 2: So right, obviously number one.

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Speaker 3: The Beatles Beatles believe.

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Speaker 2: Number two is Queen. We've got led Zeppelin in there,

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Pink Floyd, and then just ahead.

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Speaker 3: Of them is a CDC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, And so you might be asking yourself

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the question, what album could we possibly match this album up?

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Against So you're going to have to tune in to

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our next episode where we will be talking about Jimmy

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Buffett's songs You Know by Heart, which is another huge

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compilation greatest Hits album, if you will, And we have

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a special little golden nugget that Jason told me today

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of how that album and Jimmy Buffett are connected to

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this band.

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Speaker 3: But you have to wait until the end of.

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Speaker 2: Our podcast today to find out what that little trivia

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nugget is, or you know, you could just fast forward when.

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Speaker 3: You listen to this here. Right when I found that nugget,

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I was like, yes, what, Actually, I've got another nugget

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that's gonna blow your freaking socks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So just an overview of this. This album was

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produced and released right before Hotel California, which is their

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greatest selling album album of all time. Right, Okay, the

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record company is like, hey, Hotel California's taken a little

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bit long to make you guys are kind of going

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slow for us. We want to keep the momentum going,

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so let's pump out a greatest Hits album. Well, guess

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who is not happy about that at all? Everybody in

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the band, particularly Don Henley. Yeah, Don Henley, we've kind

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of established in our in our study, he's always kind

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of unhappy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you said that. David Geffen describes him as a malcontent, Yes,

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which I think leads to some really great song lyrics.

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to make this greatest hits album, and I'm sitting here thinking,

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they just gave you the greatest selling album of all time.

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How could you possibly be still upset about that?

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Speaker 3: That's right? Yeah, you know, Glenn Fryes said, when Don

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Henley wasn't happy, nobody in the band was happy. And

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then he said, oh, by the way, Don Henley was

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never happening. So just a little tibit on this Asylum

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is the record company owned by David Geffen, Started by David,

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started by David Geffen, which I.

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William Morris Agency, right, okay, and he's trying to become

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an agent. He has he like, dropped out of college.

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college degree. But to be an agent. You had to

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have a college degree. And he's so he's working to

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become an agent at the William Morse Agency and then

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he tells them, yes, I I got my degree from UCLA. Well,

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they of course send something to UCLA saying, can you

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confirm that this that David Geffen is a graduate. Well,

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UCLA sent a piece of mail that said he's never

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attended here, he is not a graduate of this college. Well,

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he worked in the mail room, so he not only

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it was like, yes, he attended here, and yes he

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got his degree here. Wow. And so that's how he

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later on, but at that point the bells already rung, right,

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and so yeah, he hit up Armet whatever his name

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is from Atlantic Records about working for him, and he's like,

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you know, you should just start your own label, and

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so he started Asylum Records, which is basically it was

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the Southern California sound. He was the one that had

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James Taylor and Carol King and Linda Ronstadt and Crosby

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Stills and Nash and so Brown. Yeah, Jackson Brown was

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his first artist, which of course we're going to talk

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about here in just a second. But David Giffen is

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a huge factor in the story of the Eagles, both

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good and bad.

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Speaker 3: Just as a teaser, I saw Don Henley talking about,

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you know, they fired David Geff and basically they walked

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off from asylum as a group, the Eagles did, and

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Geffen sued them, and they're well, they suit each other

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and it was just kind of a bad.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's been multiple lawsuits.

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Speaker 3: Well, and then then he went to Don Henley and said, hey,

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your solo career, why don't you come on back? And

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Speaker 2: I heard this quote about people who remarry somebody they divorced.

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It's like, it's like drinking milk that's sour and you

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put it back in the fridge and you try to

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drink it again the next day.

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Speaker 3: It's still gonna be sour.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty interesting. Though Henley clearly has harsh feelings. Yeah,

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mal content, right right, Okay, the greatest selling album of

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all time? Are we ready to dive into this? Let's go,

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let's freaking go, let's do it. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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you're getting little excited. I think we should take it easy.

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Speaker 2: Number one song out of the box.

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Speaker 4: Take it easy, what do you say?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can sing every word of this song.

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We've known as our whole lives basically, so you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm putting the band back together and I'm listening

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to this album. I'm like, guys, we've got to do

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this song because not only is it simple, it's a

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crowd pleaser. Everybody will sing along to you. I mean,

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you will never go anywhere with this song and people

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not be excited and ready to sing the whole song

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with you.

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Speaker 3: I heard Glinn Fry talking about this. He thinks the

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reason why this song is so appealing is because we're

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coming out of the sixties where everything's kind of angry

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and upset, and he's like, hey, let's just take it easy.

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Speaker 2: Relax people, smoke a dube, chill, have some baoti. So

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the song is co written by Jackson Brown, which we

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said is on the Asylum Records label with him right, Well,

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he actually was. He had been playing similar to them.

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They would see each other's shows, and he started talking

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to Glenn Fry one day before they're ever even the

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Eagles right, sure, and he's like, where are you staying?

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Echo Park. The apartments there are great and they're really cheap,

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and that's where I live. And so Glenn fry and

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his partner Jad Souther, who is a co writer on

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many of the Eagles songs right there, many many songs,

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they say okay, and they get a place at Echo

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Park and Jackson Brown starts coming over and he's like, hey,

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you guys got like this kind of extra hidden room

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in the basement here. You know, it's not just like

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a storage facility or something, you know, right, And he's like,

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can I move down there? And so, like the plays

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is only one hundred and twenty five bucks a month anyway,

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really discounted living space below Glenn fry and JD Souther.

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that he learned how to write music from, because not

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that Jackson Brown came and taught him, but he said,

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nine o'clock in the morning. I would hear his teapot

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go off right, and then he would sit and I

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could hear him, you know, through his ceiling and our floor.

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I could hear him play the piano, sing the song.

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it again, and he would do it again about twenty

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times until he finally got it molded just the way

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that he wanted, and they'd be quiet for a while.

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does it twenty times until he feels good about it again,

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you know, and then he's doing both verses together twenty times.

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write music. You just have to freaking gut it out,

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little elbow grease.

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Speaker 3: I love it. That's a great story, yeaight. So Glenn

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Fry learned from Jackson Brown. They also helped each other

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on this song. So Jackson Brown had this song started.

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He had the I'm standing on a corner and Winslow

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Arizona part, and he's like the kid on Sesame Street.

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The guy keeps banging his head on the piano. I've

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never finished this right, yes, And Glenn Fry came up

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with there's a girl my Lord in a flatbed forward,

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slowing down to take a look at me.

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Speaker 5: I'm standing on a corner and wins the Arizona. Such

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a fine side to see. It's a girl, my.

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Speaker 6: Lord in a plast bed board going down to take

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a look at me.

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Speaker 4: Come on, bab.

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Speaker 3: Don't say he's the one who came up with that part. Brilliant.

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him like, are you gonna finish that song? Yeah? Are

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you gonna finish it? It's kind of like your buddy

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at the pizza place when you're growing up, are you

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gonna fish? Can I have that? So he finally says,

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can I finish it for Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Jackson Brown says all right, fine. After turning him

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down a couple of times, he said, fine, you take

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a crack at it, and he said when he brought

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it back, he's like, oh my gosh. Not only did

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he finish it, but he said he arranged it far

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better than he ever could have.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: By the way, you could hear the Jackson Browns version

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on his nineteen seventy three album True. This is the

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first single for the Eagles debut album. Debut single, it

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reaches number twelve on the Hot one.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you got the list.

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Speaker 3: I of course I wrote down the list.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to know the list? I want to

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know the list, all right.

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Speaker 3: So there's some songs on here that I know, there's

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some just don't remember.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy two, these are the eleven songs that

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people thought at the time were better than take It Easy.

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Speaker 3: And take it Easy an all time classic. Yeah, a

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staple for the Eagles.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 3: By the way, neither you or I was born at

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this moment.

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Speaker 2: Correct, okay, all right?

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Speaker 3: Number eleven late we're.

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Speaker 2: Cooking, though in July I may have you probably were

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cooking at that point.

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Speaker 3: So number eleven, Laila. We talked about it during our

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Goodfellow's episode. That's right, Derek and the Dominos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Number ten Schools Out by Alice Cooper.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a pretty big one, right yeah.

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Speaker 3: Number nine Rocketman by Elton John Jeez.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we've got some pretty big hitters, right, you

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got to you? Yeah, I don't know that Schools Out

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any gonna, I'm gonna say is better than take it Easy,

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but it's definitely a big one, okay.

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Speaker 3: And then you literally have a whole bunch of crap.

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What do we got? I mean, you've got? How do

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you do? Where's the love? Daddy? Don't you walk so fast?

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If lovin You is wrong? I don't want to be right?

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Which remembered that one one's funny? Yeah, Brandy, you're a

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fine girl.

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Speaker 2: That's a big one.

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Speaker 3: Alone again naturally, too late to turn back now. And

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then the number one song that week, lean on Me, Oh,

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Bill Withers, Oh that's good when You're not strong. Yeah,

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that's a good one, your friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So on this song, as we said, it's the lead single, Yeah,

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Bernie Leaden is doing the banjo, and you and I

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were talking about it and it's like, oh, yeah, there

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is a banjo on this song.

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Speaker 2: So here's what's interesting. We've got this Greatest Hits album

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and ten songs, and only three of them have Don

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Felter on them. None of them have Joe Walsh, none

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of them have Timothy B.

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Speaker 3: Schmidt.

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Speaker 2: These are essentially the vast majority of these songs are

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just the four original members of the Eagles. And yeah,

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I mean when I was introduced to the Eagles, they

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had already been broken up for a while, you know,

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like it was just what had happened. So I knew

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them their whole history, and I'm thinking, okay, yeah, this

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is a southern rock band. But then when we started

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covering songs in my band in high school, this was

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one that obviously came up. And so I start listening

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to it with how do I play this ear? And

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I'm like, they're banjo playing now. And as it turned out,

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my dad happened to own a banjo, and so I

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taught myself how to fingerpick a banjo for our performance

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at the high school gym.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was in the middle of the gym floor

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with a banjo picking away. It was too fun. It

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was really fun.

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Speaker 3: Okay, have you ever been to Winslow, Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I might have driven through there. I did drive to

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Las Vegas, and I feel like it might have been

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on the way. I know that Needles is on the

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way because of the never been to Spain song by

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Hoyd accident. Yeah, headed for Las Vegas, only made it

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out to Needles.

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Speaker 3: I was driving.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, there's Needles. We must be close.

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Speaker 3: So I've stopped. We pulled over in Winslow, Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Did you go to the corner?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, Okay, So there's a big sign

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there that says standing on a corner on Winslow, Arizona.

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There's a little store there. It's kind of cool. And

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then there's a little there's there is a parked a

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flatbed ford right there, right there, right there, flatbed Ford.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've got a statue there too, like it's called

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the standing on a Corner park. I think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the homeless guy came up to me and asked

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for me for money. Okay, I said, hey, dude, take

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it easy. Oh my gosh, all right, I've got something

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for you on this though. Okay, there's basically a three

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act structure to the Eagles career. Okay, okay, to me,

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you've got Act one is Glenn Fry, Don Henley, Bernie Leaden,

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Randy Meisner. Yep, Okay, maybe Felder kind of bridges that gap.

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Speaker 2: A little bit a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Act two is Hotel California Long Run, which that's Joe

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Walsh and Timothy be Schpett.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exit, Bernie Leaden exit, Randy Meisner.

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Speaker 3: Randy Meisner leaves after Hotel California, right, yeah, and then

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you've got hell freezes over.

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you've got a breakup. Yeah, the years off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I remember in the late eighties when I was

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really getting into these guys for the first time, I

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was just like, I'm just bummed out. I will never

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get to see my one of my favorite bands in concert,

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including Eagles and also led Zeppelin. And then of course

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the Eagles got back together and I did see them

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in concert in nineteen ninety four. I believe I saw

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them in concert ninety four. Whe'd you see I saw

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them in Little Rock, Arkansas? Where'd you see them?

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Speaker 3: Dallas, Texas?

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Speaker 2: Well? I bet that that was I bet those shows

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are pretty close together.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee they were right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And they were flawless. They were absolutely flawless. Great.

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I saw the Rolling Stones play that same year, and

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the Stones had a big show, like they had these

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giant balloons of these you know, like circus characters and

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all this stuff. But they were they didn't sound like

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an album. The Eagles sounded like their album. They were

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flawless musicians, flawless.

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Speaker 3: So I got just a couple of stories for you

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real quick. So number one, I saw the Eagles on

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July third, nineteen ninety four in Texas Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you were nice and cold?

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Speaker 3: Good lord, Oh my gosh, I still haven't stopped sweating

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in that concert. It was so hot, and of course

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that was the they had the hole in the roof

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so it's not air conditioned.

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Speaker 9: Oh.

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Speaker 3: The guy sitting right next to me, like hip to hip,

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I told you this story had a shirt off. He

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was sweating all over me. He was high as a kite,

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acting rambunctious and out of control. He tried to get

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it on with his girlfriend in the seat next to me,

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just to.

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Speaker 2: Get it on, get it on. He was you don't

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mean make it out.

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Speaker 3: You mean I mean porkner in the seat next to me.

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And I literally was like sitting there. I was like,

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this is not gonna happen. This might happen, and I

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really she was like no, no, no, maybe, and I

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was like, oh my gosh. Thankfully she thought better of

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it the last second. But were you really thankful?

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Speaker 2: I just she said, no, give him the side one

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and twenty degrees. All they're gonna do is create a

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lot of friction, warm everything more.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 3: The funny thing is Kathy and I got tickets, but

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we had to take singles, so she was down a

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few rows and like five seats over. We had to

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wave each other constantly. But I was going to tell

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you this song basically is the reason why they got

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back together in nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely true. So Travis Tritt did a version

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of the song. I remember when that album came out,

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a bunch of country artists did their version of Eagle songs,

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but this was the only one Travis Tritz was the

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only one where he got all of the original band

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members back together to sing on the song. And that

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really is what inspired them to call it good Again.

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Speaker 3: Right, So I thought this was really funny. So they

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come to Travis Tritt and they say, hey, we want

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you to participate in this album. It's called Common Thread

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Country Artists covering the Eagle songs. He said he was

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late to the party and so he's like, They're like,

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what do you want to do? And he's like, how

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about Desperado. They're like, no, somebody who's already doing it.

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He's like, well how about this one. No, somebody's already

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doing well, how about this one? And so his attorney

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was the one who's like it, take it easy, man,

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do that one. He's like, yeah, take it easy, that's

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a good one. So Irving Azoff's office calls him and says, hey,

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we want you to be the first single. And he's

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like wow. He's really flattered, like yeah, he's the lead, right,

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And they said what do you want to do for

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the video and he's like, wow, I mean crap, I'd

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love to have the Eagles join me in the video.

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What do you think? He said? Dead silence on the

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other end, like nobody's saying anything. And after a few

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minutes he's like, that's kind of uncomfortable, and they're like,

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why don't you call Glenn. So he's like, that's kind

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of weird. You know.

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Speaker 2: Irving is telling Travis Tritt to call called Glynn, right, okay.

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Speaker 3: And what he didn't know is that they tried to

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ramp this up in nineteen ninety Okay, okay. Felder was in,

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Meisner was in, Henley was in. Glenn Fry was like, nope,

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screw you guys not doing it.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: So Travis Tritt calls Glenn Fry and says, hey, I

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want you to come be in the video with you know,

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and so Glen Glenn's like, well, since it's not really

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the Eagles, I'll do it if don doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I assume he did not mean Feld.

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Speaker 3: He definitely did not mean Felder. He meant Henley. Yeah.

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So Travis Tritt's like, oh okay, So he calls Henley,

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but he doesn't tell Henley that he's taught to Fry.

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Oh okay. Henley's like, I'll do it if Glenn does it,

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uh huh. And that's how it's slowly. Then they all

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get together. They're at this bar in LA. They're having fun.

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They're playing pool and guess what just so happens to

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be set up guitars, drums amps. Travis Trittz said he

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grabbed a guitar.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 3: He started to play Rocky Mountain Way, oh wow, and

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Joe Walsh jumps in and then next thing you know,

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he's like looking around. He's like the Eagles are playing

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for the first time in fourteen years.

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Speaker 2: The most made of tears. Oh my gosh, could you

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could you imagine? Could you imagine? Wow?

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Speaker 3: That's fantastic. Take it Easy, Take.

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Speaker 2: It easy man, Okay, Hey, we got to keep going.

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There's ten there's nine more fantastic songs that we got

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to cover. So all right, so we're done with Take

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It Easy. We are on too, Track number two with

472
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,640
Chay with Jay Wollman. Witchy Woman.

473
00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 3: Another song featured on Seinfeld. This was the one that

474
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:11,599
Elaine likes.

475
00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:15,559
Speaker 2: She's trying to get to Yeah. Yes. So there's an

476
00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:18,279
episode of Seinfeld where Elaine is dating a guy who

477
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,200
cries when he hears the song Desperado and I Have

478
00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:24,400
I will occasionally tear up on Desperado, but it's for

479
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,880
an entirely different reason. It's a story from my own

480
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,119
personal life, which I will share with you guys when

481
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,480
we get to Desperado. Oh excellent. And if I was

482
00:22:31,519 --> 00:22:34,039
picking between this moment that I'm talking about with Desperado

483
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,599
and playing guitar with Frank Cannon, as you've got to

484
00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:38,000
give up one of the moments in your life, I

485
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,759
would get rid of the Frank Cannon moment. That's how

486
00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:40,200
important this.

487
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 3: Okay, excellent, Yeah, ready to hear that story. Yeah. So

488
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,200
this song was written by Bernie Leaden and Don Henley.

489
00:22:47,279 --> 00:22:50,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Bernie came up with the guitar riff on

490
00:22:50,079 --> 00:22:53,319
this one, which it's it's got kind of that like

491
00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:57,960
the Indians, you know, coming into fight the Cowboys does

492
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,319
sound like an Indian. Yeah, it sounds like that, but

493
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,359
then with a rock edge to it. Sure, So Bernie's

494
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,880
playing that little lick and and Don likes it, and

495
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,359
they're kind of playing with it together. He said. Next

496
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,119
day Don comes in, He's got all the lyrics.

497
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 6: Don shell Man not shed some fire, crazy laugh.

498
00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:30,559
Speaker 3: I heard Don Felder talking about how when you would

499
00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:33,559
write songs for Don Henley, what you wanted to do

500
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,440
is create a musical bed for him to lay the

501
00:23:36,519 --> 00:23:39,599
lyrics on, right, and that's what he did best, right.

502
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's interesting. Witchy Woman is based on several things,

503
00:23:44,039 --> 00:23:46,079
but one of the key things that it's based on

504
00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:48,200
is Zelda Fitzgerald.

505
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,319
Speaker 3: You know that this is She is the wife of f.

506
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,480
Scott Fitzgerald.

507
00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: Yes, and so if you don't know who that is,

508
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,519
you need to read more required reading and high school

509
00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:04,039
The Great Gatsby. She is who Daisy was based upon.

510
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,960
And Don Henley was reading her biography that night. He

511
00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:12,400
also happened to be suffering from some sort of fever,

512
00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:14,759
and so he would kind of go in and out

513
00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:18,160
of this fever, and whenever he felt like not so horrible,

514
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,599
he would write down these lyrics inspired by her life.

515
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,720
And she was known as the first flapper of the twenties.

516
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,279
She was there was all kinds of craziness that she

517
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,079
got into, all gims. It drove herself to madness with

518
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,559
a silver spoon. This is probably a reference to the

519
00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:37,839
spoon they would use to take absinthe back in the twenties,

520
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,640
which is something you took with your liquor to give

521
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,839
yourself hallucinations and she literally like she had electroshock therapy

522
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:51,000
for ten years and tragically, like was in the hospital,

523
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,720
confined to a bed in a locked room with this therapy,

524
00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:56,680
and the hospital catches on fire, and that's how she

525
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,519
meets her demise.

526
00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 3: It's pretty rough, strapped to a bed, hospital catches on fire. Yeah, wow,

527
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,480
I do have an interesting story. So one of the

528
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:12,680
most famous white witches from this era Stevie Nicks. Okay, okay, Yeah,

529
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,720
and of course Don Henley and Stevie Nicks were an

530
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:16,519
item for on and off for a while.

531
00:25:17,079 --> 00:25:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I told.

532
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,079
Speaker 3: You I had a great story about Stevie Nicks. Okay,

533
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,000
So she and Don Henley had kind of a rocky

534
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,920
even though they were both singers in a major seventies band.

535
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,720
Of course, Stevie Nicks saying with Fleetwood Mac Don Henley

536
00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:33,480
sang with the Eagles. They they did a lot of

537
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,279
you know, nosecandy together. Well, she became pregnant by him

538
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:42,000
and ultimately decided to abort the baby. Okay, he was

539
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,880
upset by that, not because I think he wanted a child,

540
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,599
but because he knew she wanted a child. Okay. Well,

541
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,839
she named the baby Sarah. Okay, she wrote a song

542
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,559
called Sarah. It's on the Tusk album and it's about

543
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,480
their baby.

544
00:25:57,839 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: Wow.

545
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 3: So wow, I thought that was interesting.

546
00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:01,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

547
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,559
Speaker 3: And also, of course in nineteen eighty one, on her album,

548
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:22,039
she has a major hit called Leather and Lace. It's

549
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:25,039
a duet with Don Henley and it causes liquijoy to

550
00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:28,240
pop out of my eyeballs every time I listen to it. Right,

551
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:31,200
but I told you she wrote that song. She wrote

552
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,480
it for Waylon Jennings, I think, and his wife. And

553
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,200
the song's leather and Lace. Right, So the guy is

554
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,039
supposed to be leather, the girl's supposed to be lace,

555
00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:40,960
and it's this back and forth to it. Well, he

556
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,240
and his girlfriend broke up, and so she's left holding

557
00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:45,079
this song. So she's like, what am I going to

558
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,759
do with this? Well, the only person that can really

559
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,920
sing this with me is Don and so she played

560
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,839
it for him and the first time and he's like

561
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:59,119
that sucks. Start again? What? And she's like what. He's like,

562
00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:03,240
this has to be perfect. It's not perfect. Go back

563
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,400
to the drawing board. And so but she gives him

564
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,720
credit because when we know Don Hilly perfection right fielder

565
00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:12,759
called Iguano because he had like he made fun of

566
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:14,519
me because he had like bat like hearings, so he

567
00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:18,640
could hear these, like all these sounds, right, And so

568
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,599
back to the drawing board, back to the drawing board,

569
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:22,400
back to the drawing board, until Leather and Lace is

570
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,839
perfect and it is a beautiful song. Yeah, second single

571
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,319
for the Eagles. This reached number nine on the charts.

572
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,240
They don't have it, but the number one song that week.

573
00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:34,880
I can see clearly now by Johnny Nash. A lot

574
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,519
of good songs in the seventies. Yeah, next song on

575
00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:38,599
the album lion Ies.

576
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:57,599
Speaker 2: So how are you able to just create Jim after

577
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,599
Jim after Jim like this? So this one comes from

578
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,640
they would see these beautiful women in the bars that

579
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,559
they were going to in southern California at the time. Yes,

580
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:11,720
you know, they're watching some very attractive woman talk to

581
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:16,240
an old, fat dude and Glenn Les leans over to

582
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:20,279
Dawn and says, she can't even hide those lion eyes a.

583
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: Rich old man where she won't have to worry.

584
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the other part was that they would they

585
00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:29,920
being the band, they're the kind of model of the lover.

586
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,240
But he said there would be this whole group of

587
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:35,839
ladies that would be there from eight until midnight, and

588
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,160
then they had to leave because they were kept women,

589
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:42,160
and so they'd come to have their little moments of

590
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,720
pleasure but eventually have to go back to the man

591
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:46,640
with the purse.

592
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,799
Speaker 3: You know. I called you today and I said, this

593
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:50,680
is a perfect song among perfect.

594
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,359
Speaker 2: Songs I was gonna say, and I said, the whole

595
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,079
album is full of perfect songs.

596
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 5: You can So.

597
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: This song was featured on the Urban Cowboy soundtrack. I

598
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,039
talked to my buddy Jay Reid, and he said, you

599
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:29,480
guys have got to cover the Urban Cowboy soundtrack absolutely,

600
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,599
and I was like, yeah, okay, and He's like, look

601
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,119
at the Hall of Fame members on that soundtrack.

602
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: It's an incredible album. Yeah, there's no doubt.

603
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: But I'd love to cover it at some point. By

604
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,039
the way, also on the Urban Cowboy soundtrack, All Night

605
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:44,720
Long by Joe Walsh. Oh. This reached number two on

606
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:48,039
the charts in nineteen seventy five, only beat out by

607
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:50,599
Island Girl by Elton John.

608
00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:54,559
Speaker 2: Okay, Elton John's really causing them some trouble. By the way,

609
00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:56,920
they hit it big in the Troubadour like they hit

610
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,720
it big. They played in the Troubadour with Linda Ronstad

611
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,119
all of these other characters. But they said they saw

612
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,240
Elton John's American debut in the Troupidour as well.

613
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,319
Speaker 3: One more thing, Yeah, Glenn Fry would sometimes dedicate this

614
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,920
song to his wife Plaintiff. We talked about this plaintiff.

615
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:13,519
Speaker 2: Uh huh and uh.

616
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,519
Speaker 3: That's his ex wife, Genie Bags, who also appears in

617
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:18,079
the Smugglers Blues video.

618
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:18,799
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

619
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,319
Speaker 3: Go back to our Remidy Vice soundtrack episode. Okay, then

620
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,680
Fry Smugglers Blues.

621
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great one.

622
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:38,079
Speaker 3: Next song on the album already gone.

623
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:45,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is the second song that Don Felder

624
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:47,799
appears on on this album. First one was Lion Eyes

625
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:50,839
that we just talked about. The next one that he's

626
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,319
going to be on is not until we get to

627
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,759
one of these nights. Interesting that they brought Felder on

628
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,640
right because they were a four man band for a

629
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,720
long time. You know, there were this kind of competition

630
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,440
of genres.

631
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: I guess you know.

632
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:08,359
Speaker 2: Glenn obviously kind of pushed more for the rock side

633
00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:11,839
of things. Bernie Leaden was definitely more on the country

634
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,200
side of things. But he also said that him leaving

635
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,880
the band for that reason is an oversimplification. He was

636
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,079
like I played a Fender strat, like I'm not I

637
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:20,880
love rock and roll music. That's not what it was.

638
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,279
Speaker 3: It was a whole big.

639
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: Mess of things, including it poured beer over That was

640
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,720
the end of it all. Yes, yeah, yeah, And I

641
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:32,400
mean we we talked about that. These guys. I mean,

642
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,119
you've got basically four alphas. And then Randy Meisner that's true,

643
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,160
who's not, you know, he's just he just wants everybody

644
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,079
to get along, That's right. He wants everybody to take

645
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:45,119
it easy. And I wonder can.

646
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: We just get a peaceful, easy feeling.

647
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,799
Speaker 2: I have to wonder if Bernie Leaden, because I guess

648
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,319
Glenn was going off about things that were wrong and

649
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:54,440
things need to improve and all this other stuff. And

650
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,160
it's at that point that Bernie Leedon takes his beer

651
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,079
and dumps it over the top of glenn head and says,

652
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:03,039
I don't know if it was why don't you chill

653
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:06,240
out or why don't you take it easy? But and

654
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:06,839
I do think.

655
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,839
Speaker 3: It's interesting kind of the dynamics of the band when

656
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,240
they started out. You're a four piece, you know, you're

657
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:14,599
backing band for Linda Ronstadt. Right, you're all kind of

658
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,960
ground level guys, and it takes you a little bit

659
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:21,039
to figure out that you've got Don Henley, maybe the

660
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:23,759
greatest voice of the seventies. You've got a Hall of

661
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:28,000
Fame writing combo of Fryan Henley. It took a minute

662
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,759
for these guys to sort out who was doing what right.

663
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: But once they figured it out, my gosh, you just

664
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,079
mentioned it. We should kind of elaborate on that. So

665
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:38,759
Linda Ronstadt was one of the ones that would play

666
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,640
like every opportunity, would be playing at the Troubadoor. She

667
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:45,880
was well received, she was having some more success, and

668
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,319
she was going to go tour, and so like her

669
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:52,960
songwriting partner, manager John Bolin, was like, let's get some

670
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,079
of these guys that play here that are good and

671
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:57,160
bring them in and have them be kind of your

672
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,119
backing band for your tour, and so he enlists Glynn

673
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:04,920
Frye yep, and Linda Ronstadt is like, I saw this

674
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:09,640
band called Shiloh. I think that the drummer is really

675
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,920
good and also a really good singer. He would be great.

676
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:15,440
His name's Don Henley, Don Henley, Don freaking Henley. So

677
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,799
they get Bernie Leaden and they get Randy Meisner. All

678
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,880
of them together are the backing band for Linda Ronstadt

679
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,200
and it goes really well. And so they're like, you

680
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,240
know what, we want to make you the permanent band

681
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,039
with Linda Ronstadt. And while they're on the road, Glenn

682
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,839
and Don have you know who didn't really know each

683
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,039
other that well, like they're on the same album label,

684
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:39,880
but that was it, but they were rooming together. And

685
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:42,759
after rooming together for so many weeks, when they get

686
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,519
this offer, he's like, well, what do you think? And

687
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,240
Don says, I'd really rather just be in a band

688
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:51,720
with you, yeah, and Glenn is like, I'd really rather

689
00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:53,759
just be in a band with you too, And so

690
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:57,519
they have to go to John Ballin and Linda Ronstadt

691
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:00,000
and go, listen, guys, you know, I know that you

692
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,759
gave us two hundred and fifty dollars a week when

693
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:06,440
we couldn't even afford beer at the Troubadour, but we

694
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:08,960
just feel like we need to go have our own band.

695
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,039
Not only did they take that well, but they continued

696
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:14,679
to help them, like we'll talk about Desperado here in

697
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,719
a minute, but oh my god, but Linda Ronstadt's version

698
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,159
of Desperado was probably a deal maker, whereas it had

699
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,119
not been successful before she got involved with it.

700
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: To me, that's hard to believe, but is part of

701
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,599
history now right. Already Gone was written by Jack Tempson, Yeah,

702
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,840
and Rob Stranland. Yes. Jack Tempson also wrote Peaceful Easy Feeling,

703
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,440
which we'll talk about here in a minute. So when

704
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,800
Jack Tempson wrote this song, yeah, he wrote in about

705
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,119
twenty minutes. He was at a club, played it for

706
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:43,639
Glenn Fry.

707
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

708
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: So a couple of years later, Glenn Fry goes to

709
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:48,840
Jack Tempson and said, remember that country song you played

710
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,840
for me that one night, Yeah, called Already Gone. I

711
00:34:51,840 --> 00:35:04,880
think that would make a good rock song. So literally,

712
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,960
Glen Fry goes to the flea market, pulls it off

713
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,840
the bin and turns it into an all time classic.

714
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: It's great. Yeah, I think that. Timpson said that what

715
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:18,840
inspired this song was that there was a bus stop

716
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,519
across the street from where he lived, and so he

717
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:25,440
and his roommates would just sit and watch girls at

718
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,840
the bus stop out of the window and just fall

719
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,880
in love with them until their bus came along and

720
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,199
took them away, and then they were already gone nice.

721
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,519
Speaker 3: Nice. I think this is also the kind of the

722
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,199
first feature of Don Felder in the line notes for

723
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,119
on the Border, You've got Don Henley, Glen Fry, Randy Meisner,

724
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:45,920
Bernie Leaden, and then it says late arrival Don Felder.

725
00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 2: Huh.

726
00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:49,639
Speaker 3: But it's his guitar that stands out.

727
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: That absolutely rock guitar. Absolutely next song on the album,

728
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,159
Let's do It.

729
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:57,639
Speaker 3: Heavy Hitter, Desperado.

730
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 6: Desper Uh. Why don't you come to you know, Sands,

731
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:33,840
You've been out riding fans for so long now, Oh

732
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,840
you're a hard one.

733
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: I know you got to read talk about liquid joy

734
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,840
coming out of your eyes.

735
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:46,039
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, an all time great song.

736
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: So this the the piano intro to this was inspired

737
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,440
by a Ray Charles song. I believe it was Georgia

738
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,360
on my mind. I could be wrong, but anyway that

739
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,280
it starts off with a strings and what they did

740
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,199
was kind of play the piano the melody of those

741
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,519
strings on the piano, right. But they did actually incorporate

742
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:10,320
strings into this song as well. Okay, so here you know,

743
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,039
I'm studying the history of the Eagles, the history of

744
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:16,639
the guys in the Eagles. I always look at past bands.

745
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:19,480
But one of the bands that I come up with

746
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,559
was Don Henley's band from the sixties, the late sixties. Right,

747
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:27,199
he's a young man, you know, twenty one in nineteen

748
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,039
sixty eight, just play in little shows, little club shows,

749
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:31,920
which is trying to make it, just trying to make

750
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,159
it with this band. Felicity is the name of the band. Okay,

751
00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:39,760
And this kind of big musician comes through town and

752
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,519
he's like, Hey, you probably would really enjoy our band

753
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,679
if you would come watch us play. The musician is like, yeah,

754
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:49,599
I don't really do that, and he's like, I really

755
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:53,920
really think you would like to hear our music. Why

756
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,119
don't we have a show tomorrow night. Why don't you

757
00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:58,119
just come. You're gonna be in town, just come. You

758
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,880
gonna want to watch a show anyway, just call And

759
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,360
so finally the musicians like, okay, fine, I'll go. He said.

760
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,079
I went and watch him play, and I immediately said

761
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,360
I want to record this band, and so he signed.

762
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,519
He gets Felicity. All the band members of Felicity, they

763
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:16,880
come and live at his house for four months while

764
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,559
they're recording their new album. They changed the changed the

765
00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:24,760
name of the band from Felicity to Shiloh. Great country

766
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,400
band name, right, that's a great band name for absolutely sure.

767
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,079
The song that comes off of this album that reached

768
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:34,079
out and grabbed me that I cannot get enough of.

769
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,760
Nice short title. This song is called a simple little

770
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:48,360
down home rock and roll love song for Rosie.

771
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:49,559
Speaker 6: Thank you.

772
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 9: I've done that, and I listen to it.

773
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, dang, this is freaking fantastic. But I started

774
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,719
off my search when I heard about this song. I

775
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,599
started off on Spotify. It's not on Spotify, you. I

776
00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:29,800
can't find it streaming anywhere there happens to be a

777
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,639
clip of it, or like the song is on YouTube,

778
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,639
so I found it there.

779
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I want to know what the.

780
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: Rest of the songs on this album sound like. So

781
00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:40,599
I'm enlisting you, Chris Webber, and anybody else who's willing

782
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:44,239
to jump on board help me find the Shiloh that's

783
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,719
the name of the band and the name of the

784
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,000
album album, so that I can hear the rest of

785
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:50,599
these songs. And I want you guys to just listen

786
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:54,159
to how awesome this song sounds. I love it and

787
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,440
everybody I send it today. I send it to deaf

788
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:58,320
Dave and He's like, I love it. I send it

789
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,039
to my dad and he's like that, that's a great song.

790
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,800
It's It's got fifteen thousand views on YouTube. That's like nothing.

791
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,119
It's nothing. It's this beautiful, awesome song with Don freaking

792
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:13,880
Henley singing, and nobody knows about it. So I want

793
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,199
the album and I want all of you to know

794
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,639
about this incredible, incredible song. It's like the Grandfather of

795
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,679
the Black Crows with Don Henley singing the song so

796
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,440
that Southern groovy love it.

797
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: Who is the rock and roll man that they talked

798
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,960
into coming and watching them perform.

799
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,599
Speaker 2: I may not have heard of him. His name was

800
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,280
Kenny Rogers, a little band called the First Edition back then.

801
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:39,599
Kenny Roger, Kenny Rodgers, who did not go to listen

802
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:41,960
to other bands play, not only heard this band, he

803
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,000
took him and had them live with him and produced

804
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:45,599
their album.

805
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: That's fantasticy freaking Roger, That's fantastic. Yeah, back to Desperado. Okay, Yeah,

806
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:54,519
this is the song where Don Henley and Glenn Fry

807
00:40:54,920 --> 00:41:10,559
became a team. Yep, Okay, they're kind of their tradition

808
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,519
in the first album was you write a song, I

809
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:14,519
write a song would come together, we work it, you know,

810
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:16,880
kind of work it together whatever. Don Helly had been

811
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,159
working on this song since nineteen sixty eight. In fact,

812
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,960
the beginning of it was like Leo, Leo, why don't

813
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,679
you come to your senses? Yeah? Right, and Glen Fry

814
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,280
stepped in and said, hey, can I help you kind

815
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,880
of fill the gaps on this song? And that's when

816
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:31,760
the partnership was forged.

817
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:35,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he. Glenn Fry said that basically it would

818
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:38,320
be Don would start off with some lyrics and he

819
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,719
would have some music, and then as they kind of

820
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,400
put it together, Don would start doing the music and

821
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,480
he would start filling in the gaps on the lyrics.

822
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:49,400
And that was just this beautiful little partnership. Okay, so

823
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,400
I said, I had a story. Yes, I'm telling it now.

824
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 3: Okay.

825
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: So when I was in high school, I was a

826
00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:58,360
member of a club called the Beta Club Okay, academic club.

827
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,400
But it was like national organization.

828
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:05,639
Speaker 3: Sort of social sad social, keep going.

829
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: So they would have big state convention like an Arkansas

830
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,159
with big, huge, like a whole whole club went down

831
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,639
there and there were clubs from high schools all over Arkansas.

832
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,880
And then We went to a national convention in like

833
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:21,360
a couple of different places, Nashville I think was that year.

834
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,719
But part of this big convention that they have, they

835
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,480
had a talent competition, right, okay, and so this would

836
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:32,400
this would have been ninety three ninety four ish junior.

837
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:34,960
And so I find out that they've got this talent

838
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,159
competition and I've just been kind of beginning this band

839
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,320
with lead singer Jeremy Turner, and I'm like, hey, we

840
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,360
should do something. Another member of the club was a

841
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,119
guy who played piano very well, jeff Yancey, who has

842
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:50,400
since passed away, got ress his soul. But you know,

843
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,360
we're just three high school kids who can play some

844
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,239
music and sing a little bit, right. But one of

845
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,400
the rules of the competition is you cannot go over

846
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:02,400
three minutes, all right, And so we land on, Hey,

847
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,360
we're gonna do Desperado. Like I had said, we should

848
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,440
do an original song. And they're like, Eh, let's do it.

849
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:09,360
Let's do Desperado. So this nineties, we're in the mid

850
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,400
nineties doing a song from the mid seventies, right, yep.

851
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:16,079
And so the song is three and a half minutes long,

852
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:18,719
three minutes in twenty seven seconds, right, So we're like, well,

853
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,760
what how do we get it under three minutes? So

854
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,280
we got to figure out a way to remove just

855
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,159
enough of it. And if you listen, like the last

856
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:29,079
like fourteen seconds is really just the strings just kind

857
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:31,360
of playing out. So it wasn't super worried about that

858
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,400
part of things, right, But basically we what we pulled out.

859
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: We were right at three minutes.

860
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 2: It was like three oh one, but we're a little

861
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,039
panicked that that we're going to go over our time limit, right,

862
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,639
And so we get to the competition, and at this

863
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,800
time in history, this is the way things were. I

864
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,920
think we were number thirteen out of fourteen competitors.

865
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,199
Speaker 3: I think at least.

866
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: Twelve of them saying I will always love it, and

867
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,559
I may not be exaggerating, like it was literally like

868
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,719
I mean, the only like kind of weird difference was

869
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,639
that there was, you know, one girl did the Dolly

870
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:12,800
Parton version instead of the Whitney Houston version. Like every

871
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,039
like seemed like every single there may have been a

872
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:19,079
baton towiler in there or something, but basically it was

873
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,079
an overwhelming title wave of I will always love youse, right,

874
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,199
And so then we get up second to the last,

875
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,719
once to go, and we're nervous as crap about this

876
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,280
for three minutes. And so we get up there. I'm

877
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,800
playing guitar, Jeff's on piano, Jeremy singing, and Jeff starts

878
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:41,440
that piano and my buddy Richie Blue is in the

879
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:48,639
audience and I can hear him go, and the crowd erupts,

880
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:53,760
like I mean, it's like a wave. Everybody starts cheering,

881
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,280
and we're in the piano at the beginning of the

882
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,159
song and like, I'm just I'm just kind of you know,

883
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:03,199
I'm gonna try to remember my chords, and just it

884
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:08,519
would just periodically swell of people just gasping and amazed.

885
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:12,320
And so we're getting near the end of the song.

886
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,559
We see the little dude with his little stopwatch like

887
00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:18,039
walking up to the beginning to the front of the state,

888
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,639
like you couldn't hear the last thirty seconds of what

889
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,800
we played because the entire auditorium full of high school

890
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:32,159
students was standing up, screaming their guts out. And I

891
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:35,119
have been chasing that moment for the rest of my

892
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,320
life since then.

893
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,559
Speaker 3: I can see where that would outweigh the Frank Hannon

894
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:41,920
moment you know that's incredible, ash.

895
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:43,559
Speaker 2: I mean just it was amazing. We won.

896
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: By the way, Sorry, I've got two quick ones for

897
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,840
you on this. I really want to share with you

898
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:58,079
the chart on where Desperado landed on the charts. Okay,

899
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:01,360
it wasn't released as a single. One was never released

900
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,199
as a single, Right there, what arguably their second most

901
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:10,119
signature song never released as a single, shocking. The whole

902
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:11,719
album was kind of a disappointment.

903
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: It was and this, you know, this was the namesake

904
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:17,079
of the album's true and it just didn't do very well.

905
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,800
And then Linda Ronstadt sang it a little bit differently

906
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,840
and they started emulating the way that she sang it,

907
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,559
and that's the song that everybody loved.

908
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: Let's listen to the Linda Ronstadt version of that.

909
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 7: Song, Dessrod, why don't you come to your sensis You've.

910
00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:45,639
Speaker 1: Been out run fansis for so long now?

911
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:49,199
Speaker 4: Oh your hard one.

912
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:51,079
Speaker 3: Beautiful?

913
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's kind of kill her voice, ah man. And

914
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,239
was hot as a freaking Firecarcter in the seventies. Yeah,

915
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,760
and apparently could drink tequila with the boys, just kind

916
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,599
of like Stevie Nicks. Yeah, that's all right, never mind,

917
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:09,599
Linda Ronstadt. That's a close call for me, honestly.

918
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:10,039
Speaker 6: Yeah.

919
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:10,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

920
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,079
Speaker 2: So Jim ed Norman is the guy who was his

921
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:16,519
band Don Henley's bandmate from Shiloh. He would do the

922
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:18,800
arrangement for strings on this and another song we're going

923
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,840
to talk about. He in nineteen eighty four became the

924
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,000
president of Warner Brothers Nashville and was president for twenty

925
00:47:26,119 --> 00:47:30,519
years till two thousand and four. Oh nice, and so yeah,

926
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:34,039
I'm like, oh, poor Shiloh, and nobody amounted to anything

927
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:37,360
except Don Henley. Wrong, yes, guy too. Yeah.

928
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: This song has been covered by the Carpenters, Ringo Star,

929
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,800
Bonnie Rait and Kenny Rogers, interesting, among others.

930
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:50,159
Speaker 2: D and your band that at that time we were

931
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:51,360
called Maxwell's Loft.

932
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Maxwell's Loft. There we go. Excellent. I saw a

933
00:47:55,519 --> 00:47:59,280
clip from David Letterman July twenty sixth, nineteen eighty four.

934
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,440
This is a few years after the Eagles had broken up.

935
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:06,440
Glenn Fry performed Desperado on Letterman. So it is a

936
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,519
same song, different Eagles singing it. It's kind of interesting

937
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:12,920
to hear that version of it. And he dedicated it

938
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,760
to his friend and former songwriting partner Don.

939
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:19,079
Speaker 2: Hanley, there you go, it's beautiful, got to all right, Yeah, it's.

940
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: Stop on your tape player, kick it out, flip it

941
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:30,320
over for side two. Start off with one of these nights, one.

942
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 8: Of these nights, one of these crazy, We're gonna find out,

943
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,840
gritty Mama. It turns on.

944
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,119
Speaker 2: It's another fantastic song. I mean, it's greatest hits right where.

945
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:54,039
You're not gonna go wrong with any of these. They're

946
00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:59,000
all just absolute killers. Here's something that was not a killer.

947
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,559
Okay to this single released? Do you know this? No,

948
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,960
it's a song called Visions, the only song in which

949
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:11,360
Don Felder is the lead singer in any Eagles song

950
00:49:11,679 --> 00:49:12,920
in any Eagles album.

951
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's interesting. We need to save some songs

952
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,559
for our Eagles Part two, if we ever get around

953
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:22,079
to doing that. Sure, Felder had some hard feelings, particularly

954
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:24,960
between him and Glenn Fry. Yeah, but there's a song

955
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,599
on Hotel California that he felt like he brought to

956
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:31,239
the band and deserved to sing a song.

957
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh right, yeah, well I got you yeah yeah,

958
00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:36,840
another song right, a different song, yeah, so A Victim.

959
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: Of Love was one that he brought. But Henley wrote

960
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:41,960
the words Fry kind of arranged it, but he had

961
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,920
the kind of the hook. It felt like he should

962
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,480
have been the lead singer on that one, right, And

963
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:49,920
they were like, Okay, give it a try. He tried

964
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,239
twenty times and they're.

965
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:55,519
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Irving Asthmov takes him to lunch or dinner

966
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:57,639
or whatever, and it's like, listen, you know this is

967
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,440
just gonna be better if Don sings it. And there

968
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:15,480
is something to that because even Glenn, even Glenn Fry,

969
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,079
was like, I don't know if you'd kind of noticed

970
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:19,360
our catalog, but I sing less and less and that

971
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,159
was by design because we had Don Henley in the band,

972
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:24,039
so he should be singing all the songs, right. And

973
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:27,239
then Don Henley says, Don Felder demanding to sing one

974
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,480
of these nights is like me demanding to play the

975
00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:33,039
lead guitar on Hotel California. It just doesn't make any sense, right,

976
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,239
But I got a point, yes, at a great point.

977
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:40,039
But then Don Felder then has to go, But yeah,

978
00:50:40,159 --> 00:50:42,760
I get it. Every song is gonna be better if

979
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,800
Don Henley sings. It's right. But Don Henley doesn't sing

980
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:51,159
every song. Glenn sings and Joe Walsh sings and Randy

981
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,280
and then Timothy and like Bernie sings a little bit,

982
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,360
you know, yeah, And so at that point I can

983
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,880
see him going I don't really And I listened to

984
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,760
Visions just I was like, how bad can he really be? Well,

985
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,400
he's listed as lead singer, but it's kind of like

986
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,920
a Beach Boys lead singer where you've got harmonies throughout

987
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,679
the entire song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I don't know

988
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,679
how bad he was by himself.

989
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 3: Interesting, by the way, Yes, I have a skull in

990
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,599
my garage, a cow's skull, okay, that was given to

991
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:26,719
me by a friend, and I painted it like the

992
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:27,760
cover of One.

993
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:30,119
Speaker 2: Of These Knights, okay, So that it's interesting that you

994
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:33,559
bring that up, because that skull that's on the cover

995
00:51:33,679 --> 00:51:36,360
of One of These Nights is a piece of art

996
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,559
that is done by the same guy who did the

997
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:41,039
cover to the Greatest Hits album, right, got the tiny

998
00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:44,280
little eagle skull on there. It's on some blue white

999
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:48,320
powder which was rumored to be a mount of cocaine

1000
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,360
that they snorted after that after they did it, which

1001
00:51:53,159 --> 00:51:57,360
is probably not true. But the artist, the artist's name

1002
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:03,719
who did both of these skulls is Elchingadera. Okay it's

1003
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,119
a nickname obviously, yes, So I was like el chinga detta.

1004
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,400
I was like, what is that? I'm like some search.

1005
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:13,800
It's like, you know, like a widget, Like it's a

1006
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,599
little like a watch, you might call it.

1007
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:16,159
Speaker 3: Like that's what.

1008
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: And then another one is like, uh, it's kind of

1009
00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:21,559
dirty and not really a nice thing. It's like, you know,

1010
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:24,000
a dab of dung or whatever. And so I was

1011
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:27,480
just like, well, but what's the literal translation? So I

1012
00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:31,159
did the Spanish to English translation relation. I put in

1013
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,880
el chingadeera and the English's whole. So the artist for

1014
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,159
this album and for one of these nights has nicknamed

1015
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:46,320
himself Sthole in Spanish. By the way, yeah.

1016
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: One of these nights. It's number one. August second, nineteen

1017
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:53,199
seventy five. Okay, okay, here's your top five that week. Yeah,

1018
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,280
I was cooking at that point, by the way, you

1019
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,880
were cooking, and I was. I was toddling at that time. Yeah,

1020
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:02,719
by the way, I just before I read this list off,

1021
00:53:03,039 --> 00:53:05,559
this was what my parents listened to in the car.

1022
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,320
I was raised on the Eagles. Yeah. I went on

1023
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,880
a ski trip in nineteen eighty nine and I had

1024
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,199
a buddy who popped in a tape Greatest Hits Volume

1025
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,559
one on one side, Greatest Hits Volume two on the

1026
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:17,639
other side. And you know, when you're skiing, all you

1027
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:19,559
do you just look out the window at Kansas and

1028
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:21,880
you just listen to music. And it was like being

1029
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:24,840
reacquainted with an old friend. Yeah. So here's your top

1030
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,639
five August second, nineteen seventy five. Okay, Number five The Hustle.

1031
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,480
You remember that one? Yes, Number four, Please mister Please

1032
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:41,239
by Olivia Newton John remember that one? Number three Jive Talking,

1033
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,000
Oh yeah, Beg's G's Yeah, number two I'm Not in

1034
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:51,760
Love by ten CC and number one one of these nights. Okay.

1035
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,639
Speaker 2: So, on the subject of the Beg's, they actually recorded

1036
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,599
this in the same studio that the Beg's were recording in.

1037
00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:00,960
Do you know this the one in Miami? I can't

1038
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,719
remember where it was, but probably yes, probably, but they

1039
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,119
were they were trying to get away from this kind

1040
00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:08,800
of country sound that they have, and this is definitely

1041
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,679
a different sound, right Yeah. Well, I mean they hung

1042
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,039
out with the Beg's a little bit and if you listen,

1043
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,960
you've got that four on the floor disco.

1044
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,599
Speaker 3: Oh, this is the Eagles and Disco.

1045
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: It really is, and it's inspired inspired by hanging out

1046
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,519
with the begs.

1047
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 3: By the way, I'd bet my paycheck that it's in

1048
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:34,159
Miami because the jive talking bridge. Oh right, right right,

1049
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,199
go back to our Saturday Night Fever episode.

1050
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:36,639
Speaker 2: There you go.

1051
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 3: Next song on the album's Tequila Sunrise.

1052
00:54:57,559 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: It's another Dicky.

1053
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 2: I want to say this, like, this is a fantastic song.

1054
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,760
It belongs with these other songs. But at the time

1055
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,480
that they pulled it, I wouldn't have expected them to

1056
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,880
pull it because it's not one of their greatest hits.

1057
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: It's not a greatest hits.

1058
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 2: It's really not. I mean, I love the song, but.

1059
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: Reach number sixty four on the Hot one.

1060
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,519
Speaker 2: Hundred, that's not a greatest hit. I mean, when you've

1061
00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:25,320
got a band that's got the kind of catalog that

1062
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,239
they had at that point, which, by the way, did

1063
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,920
we mention that this is coming from four albums? Like

1064
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,719
they write four albums in and they're like, all right,

1065
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,199
time for a greatest hits album. I mean, that's pretty

1066
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,119
quick turnaround. But when you got the catalog that they have,

1067
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,000
you could do it right. I knew from my days

1068
00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:45,960
as a bartender what a tequila sunrise is, which is

1069
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,519
tequila and orange juice and grenadine. It's a nice little

1070
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:51,800
blend of the orange and the red so that it

1071
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,239
looks like a sunrise. Right, makes sense. But that's not

1072
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,159
what they're talking about when they call this song tequila sunrise. Okay,

1073
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,239
this is the sunrise that you see after an night

1074
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,800
of shooting straight to Kuila. So when he says, take

1075
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,320
another shot of courage, that's the shot of tequila. You

1076
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,599
have trouble talking to girls. Shot at tequila. Go to

1077
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,960
a r Patreon and good friend of mine have been

1078
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,440
playing music's together and we're both nervous about our own singing,

1079
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:18,440
and so we take a shot of courage. At the

1080
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,760
beginning of every band press, you.

1081
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:26,679
Speaker 3: Know, discussing that their first album cover this one right here.

1082
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: This one, I'll show it to them. There you go, right.

1083
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting. They went out to Joshua

1084
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,800
Tree National Park. They all took a hit of peyote. Yeah,

1085
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,639
they spent the night in the desert to create this cover. Yeah,

1086
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,000
that's that's what we got. Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's terrible.

1087
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: It's terrible. Well, maybe it's because they were all stoned

1088
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:48,719
out of their freaking mind, including the photographers.

1089
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,159
Speaker 3: Well, but did you see you actually have to take

1090
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:54,519
the album apart to see the full thing.

1091
00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 2: So the whole idea with the album, it's brilliant, It

1092
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,599
is absolutely brilliant. Is that you unfold it and becomes

1093
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,519
a poster. Well, apparently David Geffen didn't get the memo

1094
00:57:04,679 --> 00:57:07,480
because he sealed it all shut and then so what

1095
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:09,599
you have is you can't open it up at all.

1096
00:57:09,639 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 3: You can't open it up. So when you're looking.

1097
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: At it right side up on the front and the

1098
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,360
backside it's this way. But then when you open it up,

1099
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,599
it's all upside down and the inside is literally them

1100
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,840
around a fire, So you've got them upside down, like

1101
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,360
hanging off of the ceiling. And they got they got

1102
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,239
the shot that they got that really they used on

1103
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,280
the top of the album. When the peote kicks in,

1104
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:38,280
sometimes you got poop. And so Glenn Fry's like, guys,

1105
00:57:38,719 --> 00:57:41,320
I got to go to the bathroom. He's like, I'll

1106
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,239
see you, and then he starts walking off. He's like

1107
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,320
he gets three hundred yards away, and they're like egle

1108
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,360
eagle and there's literally an eagle flying over them, like

1109
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,079
the perfect photo opportunity, and yeah, we don't. The eagle

1110
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:57,559
that we have is a drawn picture. It is not

1111
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:01,679
an actual eagle, So I think his bowels robbed them

1112
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:03,159
of some magic on that photo.

1113
00:58:03,519 --> 00:58:05,679
Speaker 3: But it did give us the name of the band.

1114
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,760
By the way, you know that they're not technically the Eagles.

1115
00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:12,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Eagles Eagles. Yeah, I noticed that as I

1116
00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:15,519
was going through. I'm like, I'm always calling them the Eagles,

1117
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:21,760
but it's really just Eagles. But that doesn't sound right. Yeah,

1118
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,880
I just thought I can't believe I haven't brought it

1119
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,440
up for now. I've had a hard day man, and

1120
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,519
I hate.

1121
00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 3: The Big Lebowski. Go back and check out our episode

1122
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,199
on that versus Raised in Arizona. Yeah. Have you seen

1123
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,039
the movie with Mel Gibson, Kurt Russell, and Michelle Pfeiffer.

1124
00:58:43,199 --> 00:58:45,320
I have not seen it. I know of it, but

1125
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,960
I have not seen. Is it nothing great? Okay, not

1126
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,079
for those not for that star power.

1127
00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: Is it related to the song at all? Or is

1128
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,800
it just a okay?

1129
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 3: Next song? Yes, next song on the album. Take it

1130
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:20,199
to the Limits. Okay.

1131
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,599
Speaker 2: We don't have Glenn Fry, we don't have Don Henley,

1132
00:59:23,679 --> 00:59:26,079
we have Randy Meisner.

1133
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: This is the first and only a side single to

1134
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:30,639
be sung by Randy Miser.

1135
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: Oh only yes, Okay. So he came up with the

1136
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:39,880
lyric of take It to the Limit, came up with

1137
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,280
the chorus I think, yeah, and he had the chord

1138
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,960
progression and then he said, that's just you know, and

1139
00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:46,800
this is just kind of where I get stuck, you know,

1140
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,159
first verse, and I'm done. And so then I gave

1141
00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:52,760
it to Don and Glenn and they finished it up. Now,

1142
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,000
his idea on take It to the Limit was every

1143
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:58,199
day you try to do better than you did the

1144
00:59:58,239 --> 00:59:58,719
day before.

1145
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,519
Speaker 3: Right, that was it?

1146
01:00:00,119 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: Not the same idea conveyed for Don and Glenn's version

1147
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,760
of the lyrics. But he has this. I mean, it's

1148
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,199
it's interesting that this is his only single with the Eagles,

1149
01:00:11,719 --> 01:00:13,440
and it's also probably the reason he.

1150
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 3: Left the band one hundred percent. So there's that one iconic,

1151
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,000
super high falsetto note that he hits the end the

1152
01:00:22,039 --> 01:00:50,000
song and it's wonderful and it's fun. And as a fan,

1153
01:00:50,119 --> 01:00:51,880
I want to see people. I want to see him

1154
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,519
perform that I pay my ticket.

1155
01:00:53,559 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: I want to see take it to Glenn.

1156
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, one more time? Right, right. Well, Randy Meiser struggled

1157
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,880
at little bit with confidence, a little bit with stage fright,

1158
01:01:03,519 --> 01:01:07,000
and he would be like, guys, I'm not feeling too well.

1159
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:08,960
I don't think I can do it tonight, right, And

1160
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,320
Glenn Fry's like, no, dude, you have to do it.

1161
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1162
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 3: People paid money to see you seeing take it to

1163
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,920
the limit. You gotta and it's the encore song, right,

1164
01:01:18,239 --> 01:01:20,800
you gotta sing this? Yeah, Well, he would try to

1165
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:21,639
whimp out a bunch.

1166
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. One night, the night that you're about to talk about,

1167
01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:29,239
he had been out partying and drinking heavily with some ladies.

1168
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 3: That some girls that's blue and was like, I'm not

1169
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,079
doing it and Glenn's like, no, you're doing it. He's like,

1170
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:36,599
I'm not doing it. You're doing it. People are here

1171
01:01:36,639 --> 01:01:38,679
to see you do that. I'm not doing it. And

1172
01:01:38,679 --> 01:01:41,440
then Glenn Fry's like, well if you then and it's

1173
01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:43,079
it's on you.

1174
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,519
Speaker 2: Why don't you just quit?

1175
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: Why don't you just quit? That's right?

1176
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: And that's I mean, and that's what happened. I mean,

1177
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,119
it wasn't instantaneous, but it wasn't very long after that

1178
01:01:54,159 --> 01:01:56,000
that Randy is like, guys, I don't want to do

1179
01:01:56,039 --> 01:01:56,519
this anymore.

1180
01:01:56,559 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: Well, that's also that night it becomes physical. They get

1181
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:00,960
in a fist fight.

1182
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,119
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, hyeah Yeah, and.

1183
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 3: The securities there and they try to step in and

1184
01:02:05,519 --> 01:02:07,880
Henley's like, you guys, stay out of this. This is

1185
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,400
personal band business. And he let him duke it out.

1186
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,199
Speaker 2: And you know what, I can't think that that had

1187
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:15,639
to be any kind of a fight. I mean, I've

1188
01:02:15,639 --> 01:02:19,199
seen Randy Meisner and Glenn Fry grew up in Detroit

1189
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,159
and has that Detroit attitude and he looks like a

1190
01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:24,960
guy that could throw a fist easy. Yeah.

1191
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think that this song was his greatest

1192
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,519
success and probably his reason for exit. Yeah, but I

1193
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:34,400
love the song. I love it. Yeah, It's an amazing song.

1194
01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: What interestingly happens after his departure, he had been with

1195
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,400
a band, and we didn't talk about the other bands,

1196
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,119
but like Don Hilly was with Shiloh and a couple

1197
01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:46,039
of other things, right, and Glenn Fry was with a

1198
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:49,039
band called the Subterraneans and the Mushrooms, and then he

1199
01:02:49,119 --> 01:02:50,559
had a duet with JD.

1200
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 3: Souther.

1201
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,199
Speaker 2: But Randy Meisner was in a band called Poco.

1202
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:03,119
Speaker 3: Poco.

1203
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so at the point that Meisner leaves, they're

1204
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,039
out there, you know, the high pitched voice that he

1205
01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:15,000
had and a bass player, and Irving Azof is like,

1206
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,039
who were going to get to replace him? And Glenn

1207
01:03:18,039 --> 01:03:20,159
Fry says, well, why don't we just get the guy

1208
01:03:20,159 --> 01:03:23,599
that replaced him in Poco? And Irving asthmas like Poko

1209
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:26,639
is a band that's doing nothing. They're about to fall apart,

1210
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,920
and I think that guy hates his life and he's like, Irving,

1211
01:03:32,719 --> 01:03:34,840
if you'd been playing in a band for ten years

1212
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,079
and you're still making two hundred and fifty bucks a week,

1213
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,679
wouldn't you be about to be done with it as well? Yeah, well,

1214
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,440
the guy that took Randy's place in Poco was a

1215
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:44,440
guy named Timothy B.

1216
01:03:44,519 --> 01:03:49,599
Speaker 3: Schmidt. Unbelievable. Timothy B. Schmidt joins. Shortly after the release

1217
01:03:49,639 --> 01:03:52,239
of Hotel California. Yeah, all right, just a quick countdown

1218
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,000
for you. This song reached number four on the Hot

1219
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,440
one hundred. Here's your top five that week. This is

1220
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,320
November fifteenth, nineteen seventy five. Number five dream Weaver by

1221
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,840
Gary Wright. Thank you Wayne's World for bringing that back right.

1222
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:08,760
Number four Take It to the Limit. Number three, Love Machine,

1223
01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:11,880
Number two all by myself Eric Carmon, Remember when we

1224
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:19,599
talked about that. Yep and number one December nineteen sixty three,

1225
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:20,639
Oh what tonight?

1226
01:04:21,079 --> 01:04:25,159
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Okayice nice by the Way Orchestra and this

1227
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:29,159
one again conducted by the old Shiloh band member Jim

1228
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,559
ed Norman. It's beautiful, beautiful, love it beautiful.

1229
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:36,639
Speaker 3: Next song on the album, Peaceful Easy Feeling.

1230
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,199
Speaker 2: I love this song. It's great, man, I love it

1231
01:04:50,599 --> 01:04:54,000
so much. It is a song in which the title

1232
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,400
literally makes you feel the way that it is you

1233
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:58,119
are told to feel.

1234
01:04:58,199 --> 01:05:01,239
Speaker 3: It's funny how that works out right, as soon as

1235
01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:04,800
it starts playing, even before the words come in, I'm like,

1236
01:05:04,039 --> 01:05:08,639
I do have a peaceful easy feeling with.

1237
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,599
Speaker 9: The billion stars, all.

1238
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 5: Because I got a piece for.

1239
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 3: Easy did not absolutely. This was the third and final

1240
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,880
single off their first album.

1241
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: I heard Glenn.

1242
01:05:28,599 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 3: Frye talk about this. He said, when people listened to

1243
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:36,480
the Eagles, they were doing stuff right. They were traveling,

1244
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,599
they were going on vacation, they were on a date,

1245
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:42,159
they were breaking up with a girlfriend, they were getting

1246
01:05:42,159 --> 01:05:46,239
a job, whatever. But people did life to the Eagles,

1247
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,960
and I think that's true. This is a road trip song.

1248
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: Oh for sure you know. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

1249
01:05:52,599 --> 01:05:55,119
Speaker 3: I've got a funny story about the creation of this song.

1250
01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:56,199
You ready for this? Yeah?

1251
01:05:56,239 --> 01:05:56,599
Speaker 2: All right.

1252
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 3: So this song was written by their friend Jack Tempchin,

1253
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,239
which we talked about earlier. Okay, he wrote it in

1254
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,280
nineteen sixty nine. Okay, one night after a gig. He

1255
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,280
was a musician as well, He was waiting for a

1256
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,599
waitress at a restaurant. She never showed, so he just

1257
01:06:12,639 --> 01:06:15,320
crashed out on the floor at this place, like just

1258
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,079
just slept on the floor, yeap. And they're like, oh, okay,

1259
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:19,519
we'll see in the morning. Well, the only thing he

1260
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:21,880
had with him was his guitar. So he writes a

1261
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,760
piece of it here, piece of it there. So part

1262
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,880
of it was that late night on the floor at

1263
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,800
this restaurant. So he moves to La meets JD. Souther,

1264
01:06:30,039 --> 01:06:32,440
Jackson Brown, and Glenn Fry, so they help him kind

1265
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,760
of further develop it a little bit here and there. Well,

1266
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,480
one day he is at the Dirwiner Snitzel in San Diego.

1267
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,039
Speaker 2: The the dir I mean, I don't know if it's.

1268
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,639
Speaker 3: The Direner stencil that it's a Dirina.

1269
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: Stencil, whole chain of them. Yeah, Okay, have you ever

1270
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,360
been there. I don't think so.

1271
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,519
Speaker 3: Good corn dogs, you know, just kind of a corn

1272
01:06:50,519 --> 01:06:54,360
dog place. Okay, Okay, okay. So he finishes, writes the

1273
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,480
third verse in a booth at this dirrener Stinzel. And

1274
01:06:58,519 --> 01:07:03,760
in twoenty twelve, the Mayor of San Diego gives him award,

1275
01:07:04,119 --> 01:07:06,400
and they have a plaque at this ter Wienerschnitz where

1276
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,719
it says the song peaceful Easy Feeling was completed at

1277
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:15,280
this booth in this restaurant. Okay, and they gave him

1278
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:16,559
the Golden Wiener Award.

1279
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,559
Speaker 2: I thought, I I thought that went to Huey Lewis.

1280
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,199
Go back and check out our hue Lewis and the

1281
01:07:26,239 --> 01:07:29,000
New Sports album for that inside story.

1282
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 3: According to Jack, that's right. According to Jack Tempchin, lots

1283
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,599
of people have Grammys, but not a lot of people

1284
01:07:37,679 --> 01:07:45,079
have Golden Wieners. That's fantastic. Love it, I love it.

1285
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:48,519
This song reached number twenty two in nineteen seventy three,

1286
01:07:48,559 --> 01:07:51,480
the number one song that week killing Me Softly by ROBERTA. Flack.

1287
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,000
It's a good one. It's a good one, okay, yeap.

1288
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,280
Last song on the album. The song is called the

1289
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,000
best of My Love.

1290
01:08:13,239 --> 01:08:18,079
Speaker 2: So this is their first number one single March nineteen

1291
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:23,000
seventy five, okay, and it's off the album on the border, it.

1292
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 3: Is off on the board, it's the third single. Okay.

1293
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,239
Speaker 2: So that's kind of a critical album for them because

1294
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:31,640
their previous albums they had done with the producer Glenn Johns.

1295
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,600
And you know, when they're ready to record their first

1296
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,960
album and they're like, okay, you know, first they had

1297
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,319
them go practice and aspen until they got good enough

1298
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:43,399
and wrote enough good songs, right. But then once it

1299
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,960
was actually time to record the album, they're like, who

1300
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,039
do you want to produce the album? And they saw

1301
01:08:49,119 --> 01:08:52,439
Glenn John's name over everything that they loved Zeppelin and

1302
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,640
Stones and The Who and all of that, right, and

1303
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,920
so they're like, we want Glenn John's and so he

1304
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,399
he comes out, he listens to him and he's like, yeah,

1305
01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:03,720
I'm not eh, I don't know what you guys are.

1306
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,600
You're like rock, You're like country? What is it? I

1307
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,520
don't know what we're doing here? And he's walking out

1308
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,640
of the studio. He's done, you know, like he's listened

1309
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,199
to a bunch of their stuff and he's just like,

1310
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:13,760
I can't I don't know what you guys are, I

1311
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,680
don't You're not a rock band, you're not a rockman,

1312
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:16,439
you're not a countryman.

1313
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what you are and I can't do

1314
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:18,119
it right.

1315
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: And as he's about to leave, somebody's like, hey, why

1316
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,399
don't you guys sing that that ballady song that you

1317
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,680
guys sing And so they they sing a song called

1318
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,279
Silver Dagger, and it's just they're just singing a cappella. Right,

1319
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:38,439
this is just Glenn and Randy and Bernie, and they

1320
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,920
would they would open, they would open and take it

1321
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,399
easy with this one, usually by singing this song, Okay,

1322
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,159
you ready, so here it is that. So this is

1323
01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:47,640
what Glenn John hears as he's about to walk out

1324
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:55,840
of the studio. My daddy was a handsome devil.

1325
01:09:56,319 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 8: He had it chain.

1326
01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 6: From every lea in hearted day for every maid.

1327
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,399
Speaker 4: He love it.

1328
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:17,359
Speaker 3: Irresistible.

1329
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 2: And Glenn John's turned around and he said, I now

1330
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,920
know what you guys are and he jumped in with

1331
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,000
both feet and so he produced. They had they have

1332
01:10:27,079 --> 01:10:28,680
to go out to London to produce with him, which

1333
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,600
I mean when they're gonna go record in the same

1334
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,680
studio the Zeppelin and the Beatles recorded in, right, But

1335
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,880
when they get there. Glenn John's has been fed up

1336
01:10:39,119 --> 01:10:42,800
with the behavior of rock musicians, specifically the Rolling Stones,

1337
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,199
where he would just be like waiting around until Keith

1338
01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:46,960
came up with a song, like he was just not

1339
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:47,960
going to do that anymore.

1340
01:10:48,319 --> 01:10:50,199
Speaker 3: So no drinking, no drugging.

1341
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 2: You know, he ran a tight ship and that didn't

1342
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,000
sit well with Glenn. Fry Don Henley was like, it

1343
01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:58,079
made it better. We were better at our craft by

1344
01:10:58,119 --> 01:11:01,319
not being high. That's a good rule. But after three

1345
01:11:01,359 --> 01:11:05,079
albums of this kind of done, and so midway through

1346
01:11:05,119 --> 01:11:08,479
recording with him on the Border, they're like, you know what,

1347
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,520
never mind, we don't want you anymore, and they go

1348
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,000
they find Bill Simsic and he finishes the album. This

1349
01:11:15,119 --> 01:11:17,359
is one of the songs that Bill Simsck like, the

1350
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,399
very first one he gets hold of. And on this album,

1351
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,439
if you had one of the original LP vinyl albums,

1352
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,600
yeh the you know what Dead Wax is no okay,

1353
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,199
So remember the old album. As it got to the

1354
01:11:31,319 --> 01:11:33,720
end of the last song on the side, there would

1355
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,199
be a little space where like the needle would slide off.

1356
01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:38,680
They call it the slide space or something like that. Yeah,

1357
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,000
the slide off a lot of times there'd be like

1358
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,920
some sort of number or something, you know, stamped in

1359
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,199
there or whatever. Well, on the Greatest Hits album it

1360
01:11:46,359 --> 01:11:51,960
says something like Happy New Year, Glenn, love you Bill,

1361
01:11:52,319 --> 01:11:55,560
and I think that has to be Bill Simsck. It's

1362
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:56,239
got to be right.

1363
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1364
01:11:57,039 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 2: But Bill Simsic of course then helps them. I mean

1365
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,439
they they obviously didn't need Glenn John's anymore. They were

1366
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,399
taking control and knew what they were doing. But that

1367
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,800
was this song was kind of the beginning of the

1368
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,399
new relationship with Bill Simson.

1369
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,279
Speaker 3: That's cool, Yeah, that's cool. You know. The creation of

1370
01:12:13,279 --> 01:12:15,399
this song I think is interesting too. Glenn Fry was

1371
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:17,600
playing with his guitar and he was trying to tune

1372
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,079
it in a way that Joni Mitchell had shown him

1373
01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:22,600
earlier yep. And he was just kind of filling around

1374
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,359
and that's when he kind of found this song. Then

1375
01:12:26,359 --> 01:12:28,840
he gave it to Don Henley, who they would go

1376
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,439
to this restaurant called Dantana's all the Time, which is

1377
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,359
close to the Troubadoor, and he was sitting in a

1378
01:12:34,399 --> 01:12:36,920
booth and he was writing the lyrics to this particular

1379
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,640
music that Glenn gave him and finished the best of

1380
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,279
my love there which one of these days you and

1381
01:12:42,279 --> 01:12:44,199
I need to go to Dantanna's Oh yeah and the

1382
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:45,000
Sunset Girl.

1383
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah right.

1384
01:12:46,079 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 3: But in the liner notes for on the Border under

1385
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,399
this song, there's a special note there that says thanks

1386
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:55,119
Guido for all the tables, and that's in reference to

1387
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:57,800
the maj Or d who would always help Don find

1388
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:58,680
a space to work.

1389
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 2: Nice, pretty cool quo quido, you know.

1390
01:13:03,119 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 3: And the success of this song. This was the third single.

1391
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,960
They were a little bit nervous about releasing such a

1392
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,960
soft kind of ballady song. But there was a radio

1393
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,560
station in Kalamazoo, Michigan who started to play this over

1394
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,439
the single that they gave him, which was already gone,

1395
01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:22,159
and it started to catch fire. Yeah, And so they

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released it as a single, and of course it goes

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on major.

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Speaker 2: They did just a limited release, like of a thousand

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copies of it or whatever in Michigan because of that

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radio station, and they were gone so quickly. That's what

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made them decide, well, let's just go ahead and release.

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Speaker 3: It fantastic full public.

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Speaker 10: This is a beautiful song, love it, Get the best

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of that, get the best.

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Speaker 2: Of what an incredible album. I don't know how we're

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going to compete with this album. Some people will say

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we're not. That's okay, but I promised you a little

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tid bet at the end of this that ties our

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competitor in, right. Yeah, So Jimmy Buffett is who we

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got coming up next episode. We're gonna look at the

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songs you know by heart in the Battle Royal of

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the two greatest Hits albums. Right, And if you don't know,

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Jimmy Buffett had an incredible following of people who would

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just literally go from place to place wherever he was playing.

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And those people got the nickname the Parrotheads, and you

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disclosed me today. I love it when we have these

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moments because you were like, Hey, do you know who

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01:14:36,279 --> 01:14:39,560
gave Jimmy Buffett's fans the name Parrotheads? And I was like, no,

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tell us the answer, sir.

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Speaker 3: Well. After the breakup of the Eagles, Timothy B. Schmidt

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went on to play in the Jimmy Buffett band, the

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Coral Reefers The Coral Reefers, and as a member of

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that band, of course Timothy B. Schmidt was a Eagle.

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He gave Jimmy Buffett fans the name Bearheads.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 2: All right, More fantastic nuggets like that about Jimmy Buffett,

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the Coral Reefers, and all of the amazing songs that

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you know by heart coming up next episode. Join us then,

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Thank you guys so much for tuning in. We hope

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you enjoyed the show.

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Speaker 3: See you next week. Thanks guys. Mister Barlow, Hey, hang on,

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this is my Wiener song.

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Speaker 2: You have a song for your Wiener.

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Speaker 3: I have got a Wiener story for you on this one.

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Speaker 2: I use my Wiener.

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Speaker 8: That's great.

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Speaker 3: That will be in the outtakes right there.