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<v Speaker 1>Rick Wilson, Hello, Molly.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just talking about the incredible performance by the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>administration at a political rally for a candidate. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is yesterday's excitement. Donald Trump had his head of his FBI,

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<v Speaker 2>Cash Cautel. You may remember him from drinking at lots

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<v Speaker 2>of big events at the poolroom and with the US

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<v Speaker 2>Olympic team and wherever he can have an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>throw a few backs.

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<v Speaker 1>He does love a cocktail.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently he does love a cocktail. And Donald Trump's new

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<v Speaker 2>sworn in Attorney General doing a rashley for a candidate

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<v Speaker 2>who has no chance of ever winning.

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<v Speaker 1>Discuss Bruce Blakeman. I have as much chance of being

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<v Speaker 1>named the next Pope as Bruce Blakeman has a theem

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<v Speaker 1>governor of New York. But I mean, look at it

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<v Speaker 1>really strikes Catholic, aren't you Catholic? Yeah? Well again again,

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<v Speaker 1>the chance of me becoming pope is rather remote, and

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Blakeman has less of a chance to becoming New

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<v Speaker 1>York City governor. The problem for me is watching the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the FBI and the head of the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice, who just got confirmed by a fraction by

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<v Speaker 1>a hairy going to a political rally, and the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that offended me the most, set aside, like the meta

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, when that son of a bitch went

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<v Speaker 1>out there and said, well, if you touch a law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement officer, we're going to go after you the full

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<v Speaker 1>extent of the law, unless you're a January sixth terrorist.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course those people are fine. Those money, Yeah, gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get paid for attacking cops. And yeah, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you caught meet the press this morning, but

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<v Speaker 1>Blanche was on there with Welker and he said, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said, well, you know what if Doronald Trump asked

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<v Speaker 1>you to break the law, and he's like, he would

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<v Speaker 1>never do that. Oh no, oh come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I think it's worth actually just pausing for a

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<v Speaker 2>second and going through it, because during this thing he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even.

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<v Speaker 1>Just say that.

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<v Speaker 2>He also said, so Walker said, can you pledge the

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<v Speaker 2>DOJ will always act independently of the White House, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like what we consider to be the baar fucking minimum.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty yeah, pretty much like the baseline, right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Bland says, no, I'm not gonna promise that. And no

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<v Speaker 2>attorney general ever should totally disqualifying like every attorney general

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<v Speaker 2>should do that and did do that until this fucking guy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Welker said, So if the president and this is my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite part, So the president asked you to do something

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<v Speaker 2>that you feel cross as an ethical or legal line,

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<v Speaker 2>do you do it? And this is what all of

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's people have said at every like they figured out

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<v Speaker 2>a what they figured out a workaround, right instead of

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<v Speaker 2>saying no, you know what, they what the proper answer is,

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<v Speaker 2>of course I would never do anything illegal. But Blanche

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<v Speaker 2>says what everybody says. He says he would never do that.

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<v Speaker 2>He never has and you never will.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he has, he many times. And what I have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you I texted with a US senator about

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes before we came on the air, the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>US senator, and I said, this is the fundamental grounds

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<v Speaker 1>for your appeachment proceeding against Todd Blanche And he replied, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is, because.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gone out there and he said he is absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>going to serve Donald Trump no matter what he wants,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter how illegal it is.

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<v Speaker 1>This and the and the idea that the DOJ is

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<v Speaker 1>subsidiary to the White House and not an independent judicial

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<v Speaker 1>or an independent federal law enforcement agency, is an astounding

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<v Speaker 1>abrogation of his duties. Astounding. I mean, I keep thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that we can't get worse for Blanche, but it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get worse for Blanche.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So let's just talk this through for a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of what's happened here is that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>theory behind this. It's called the unitary executive theory, correct,

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<v Speaker 2>And what it means is that you can just the

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<v Speaker 2>president is a fucking king. And the Supreme Court loves

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<v Speaker 2>this theory because it's filled with right wingers and this

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<v Speaker 2>is their guy. But the reality is is that the

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<v Speaker 2>justice system, nothing is set up to make this work

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<v Speaker 2>for Trump, and ultimately the idea and watching it happen

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<v Speaker 2>in real time is disturbing all of our every the

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<v Speaker 2>whole way the government is.

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<v Speaker 1>Set up, Malli. The fundamental structure of the balance of powers,

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<v Speaker 1>between the tripartepe division of powers, between the branches, the

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<v Speaker 1>long legal frameworks that exist both in the Constitution and

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<v Speaker 1>in the rule of law in this country, all of

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<v Speaker 1>them are built to resist unitary executive power. They're built

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<v Speaker 1>to resist a king. That was the fundamental design speck

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<v Speaker 1>of the constitution. No fucking kings, right, Russell Vaught and

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<v Speaker 1>a number of these weirdos inside of Trump's universe. Boris

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein and others are really pushing as hard in as

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<v Speaker 1>far as they can, and then Todd Blanche is now

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<v Speaker 1>their eager handmaiden to say, there is no universal there

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<v Speaker 1>is no bounds on the president's power. His power is

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<v Speaker 1>unlimited and universal, and he can do whatever he wants,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime he wants, on any issue he wants, and every

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<v Speaker 1>part of government must in fact bend to him no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what the law says. Listen, We're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a collision here. It is going to happen sooner than later.

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<v Speaker 1>It's happening right now because our friend Katie Fang is

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<v Speaker 1>pushing Todd Blanche over the cliff, winning every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of these motions on the Epstein materials, as Blanche continues

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<v Speaker 1>to illegally cover up the Epstein materials that in order

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<v Speaker 1>to protect Donald Trump and solely to protect Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also probably to protect Donald Trump's friends and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, there are probably a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the how but our lond Nick's in there

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<v Speaker 2>are all sorts of other.

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<v Speaker 1>People from Trump or older, and Steve in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Bannon, Yeah, so I do think and do not

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<v Speaker 2>forget Michael Wolfe, who is very mad at me because

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<v Speaker 2>I always write about how he's in there, but he

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<v Speaker 2>is very much in the Epstein files. And even like

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Wolfe who had extensive in the Epstein many emails

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<v Speaker 2>and text messages for many emails, and.

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<v Speaker 1>And other people that and other people that Trump. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if there are still people that are that are active

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<v Speaker 1>financially or politically, I'm sure Trump is is nodding and

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<v Speaker 1>winking at them like, hey, I'm helping you out. Where's

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<v Speaker 1>my vig pay me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And and that is a larger question of the presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>But here we are in August. We're about to or

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<v Speaker 2>less than one hundred days from the midterms, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to me, like we're cruising into the mid RUMs

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<v Speaker 2>and polling for Republicans. I mean, Donald Trump is pulling

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<v Speaker 2>the worst of any president in history.

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<v Speaker 1>Barnatur.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, well, I mean I assume that they're probably

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Jackson. Donald Trump's favor did not pull so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean that was Listen. Here here's the thing, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been I have paid in my career for many,

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<v Speaker 1>many millions of dollars worth of polling in hundreds and

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of races and issues and corporate assignments, all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>I have consumed polling professionally for my entire career. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a technical term as to where Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It is America fucking hates Trump and the

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<v Speaker 1>depths of his collapse politically in this country. Do not

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<v Speaker 1>be fooled by Twitter. Do not be fooled by even

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of mainstream media repetition of saying, oh, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>loves Donald Trump and the Republican Party. Even the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>base is cracking. They're down from the nineties to the

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<v Speaker 1>fifties in supporting Trump, in strongly supporting Trump. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy in complete political collapse, and the the impact

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<v Speaker 1>is going to hit the party. They all know it,

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<v Speaker 1>they all, they all, they're all making their contingency plans

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<v Speaker 1>now for what happens in November when he goes completely

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<v Speaker 1>off the rails and blames all of them and Molly.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a theory. I have a theory of the

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<v Speaker 1>case that's going on right now. Remember how much money

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<v Speaker 1>he's sitting on between MAGA Inc. And the r n

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<v Speaker 1>C and other super packs he controls it's it's like

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a theory that he gave away the game

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<v Speaker 1>the other day when he said, well, they gave the

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<v Speaker 1>money for me. They like me, but they don't like

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<v Speaker 1>other Republicans. I think he's going to sit on a

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say that I'm keeping this money. This is my money.

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<v Speaker 1>I raised that, Haha, he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He has really differentiated between himself. Oh yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican Party knew his times. I've seen him say even

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<v Speaker 2>in that interview with Jake Sherman where he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't like Republicans, but they like me. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 2>remember a lot of Republicans are trying to get that

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<v Speaker 2>maga inc mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Ken Passon is a calling every day begging please

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<v Speaker 1>come in. I need one hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Good lad Jackson. Is it really interesting in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>that they're not that nobody has come to Ken Pattin's

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<v Speaker 2>age because early money and you know this better than anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>explain to our listeners what the difference between early money

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<v Speaker 2>and late money is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Look, the more you can get in the door faster.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, it's cheaper to buy media earlier than later.

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<v Speaker 1>In the October media is very very expensive, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast broadcast, the early media is a lot less expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>The The other thing is, in this environment, this media environment,

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<v Speaker 1>you think. You have to really convince people, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have to hit him over the head a number of times,

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<v Speaker 1>not just like not just like two weeks in a

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff really adds up to putting people like

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Paxson in a very deep hole. Paxson's not raising

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<v Speaker 1>the money tall Rico is. He's not spending the money

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<v Speaker 1>on the air like Tall Rico is. I will give

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit of an inside like secret Republican

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<v Speaker 1>infighting that's going on here. Kim Paxton's consultant is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Jeff row and jeffro is a notorious pirate

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to Republican campaign like he brags that

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<v Speaker 1>he takes sixty seven percent of every dollar in the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign spends for himself.

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<v Speaker 2>And didn't you work for you work.

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<v Speaker 1>For Desantas and that worked out really well for Dissantas

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<v Speaker 1>he's president. Now, yeah, oh absolutely, President Desantas is doing great.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Republican establishment in DC hates Jeff Row so

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<v Speaker 1>much that they're like, no, we're not wasting our money

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<v Speaker 1>with that guy. We're not letting him take. If they

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<v Speaker 1>do spend one hundred million dollars and Jeff Row wants

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<v Speaker 1>to keep two thirds of it, that ain't gonna work

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<v Speaker 1>for them. So Jeff Row is a is a cancer

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<v Speaker 1>on Paxson's campaign, above and beyond Paxton being a degenerate criminal, corrupt,

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<v Speaker 1>an adulterer, a weirdo, and probably engaged in some really

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<v Speaker 1>weird shenanigans. Because a guy who makes one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy grand a year, who owns fourteen multimillion dollar properties

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<v Speaker 1>around the country, something may add up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I'm really interested in Paxton's total inability

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<v Speaker 2>to campaign in any which way. I mean, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>killed Cornan, right, I mean he just killed Cornan in

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<v Speaker 2>the primary. I mean they spent and spent and spent

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<v Speaker 2>and he creamed him. And then now he's the nominee

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<v Speaker 2>and he seems, you know, he's in Europe, he's got a.

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<v Speaker 1>Girlfriend, he's on vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, what do you think is going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>That I think he's already checked out. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>does not feel like he could win, and he's checked out.

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<v Speaker 1>But he also molly represents weirdly. It used to be

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<v Speaker 1>try to ride it, and he's trying to ride something

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<v Speaker 1>now that feels like it's from twenty ten rather than

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty twenty six. Tal Marico feels very of the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>He's engaged, he's he's warm, He's a guy who's talking

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<v Speaker 1>to people where they are at on the economy and

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<v Speaker 1>on and on what they need. He's not taken the

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<v Speaker 1>bait from Paxton. Paxton's gonna go in the next couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks, guys, just he'll get some money in the

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<v Speaker 1>he'll go up and'll be transpillionaire. That'll all that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be always got and it's not gonna work.

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<v Speaker 2>But he but he does have like I mean, remember

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<v Speaker 2>he has a Texas or two big Texas billionaires who

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<v Speaker 2>funded who have funded his impeachment trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct they bought they basically bought the Texas Senate majority.

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<v Speaker 1>They went in and said, here, if you but if you'll,

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<v Speaker 1>if you'll kill this impeachment, we're gonna give you all

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<v Speaker 1>a you know whatever amount of money. Yeah, stop, and

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<v Speaker 1>they did. These guys are are like they're also the

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<v Speaker 1>sites and they're the classic Maga hate machine billionaires.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think right now, because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>weird moment. We got Trump Trump versus Iran. The Iranians

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<v Speaker 2>seem to be winning. Every time he says we're near deal,

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<v Speaker 2>or he went on TV and he said we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>crush them, and then they tweet, you know, fuck you,

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<v Speaker 2>or try try moving your stuff through the straight buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you never got to hand it to

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<v Speaker 2>a murderous regime. But they are really It strikes me

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<v Speaker 2>like there's a parallel with the Ukrainians there, like they

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<v Speaker 2>are they shouldn't be winning, but clearly they are there.

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<v Speaker 1>They are absolutely winning this battle. And again, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>right Nobody here is a fan of a regime that

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<v Speaker 1>hangs gay people from cranes in the street. Nobody here

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<v Speaker 1>is a fan of a regime that treats women like cattle. Nobody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have strategically figured Trump out. They understand that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not smart. They understand that Pete Hegsetts should not

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<v Speaker 1>be running a seven to eleven, much less the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Defense, And in all these regards, they now understand

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<v Speaker 1>the time is their friend. They can wait it out.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't even have the missiles left to attack them

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<v Speaker 1>now to cause them enough harm so that they will

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<v Speaker 1>would capitulate. And even if we did attack them and

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<v Speaker 1>we knock them back in the stone age, they don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>That gives them regime more power over the people of Iran,

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<v Speaker 1>not less power. They care about their survival and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna survive. They figured this thing out. None of them

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<v Speaker 1>are using cell phones anymore. They're all using They're all

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<v Speaker 1>using messengers on motorcycles, taking handwritten notes back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it slow things down, Sure of course it does.

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<v Speaker 1>But does it make it so we can put them

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<v Speaker 1>down and target them and kill them, Yes, it does.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got into this war in part because net

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<v Speaker 1>and Yahoo Wamma Jam and Trump into it. But Trump

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<v Speaker 1>also did it because he wanted to be the tough guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought he was going to scare them or intimidate them,

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<v Speaker 1>and that except that an ironclad plan to beat them.

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<v Speaker 1>And like we've talked about before, every professional who has

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<v Speaker 1>studied the Gulf, who has followed along for the last

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<v Speaker 1>forty years in that region has said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>going to war with Iran has consequences that we can't control.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so let me just say this to your

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone who's read The Economist knows it closes straight in

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<v Speaker 2>is a country of eighty million people. And we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be a genius here.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's here's a funny thing that people, you know in

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<v Speaker 1>this audience may not may not immediately grasp. Even Dick

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<v Speaker 1>Cheney was like, no, no, that's too much. We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to war with Iran. Yeah, even Dick Cheney,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, okay, who was surrounded by a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>boots who were hockeier than Dick Cheney, who people who

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to turn Iran into a parking lot. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We deconflicted with Iran in the in desert storm. We

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<v Speaker 1>deconflicted with Iran during during the Iraq War. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we had we sprints back and forth at the lower levels,

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<v Speaker 1>But everybody realized what would happen to the world economy

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<v Speaker 1>if Iran decided to use cheap sea minds to close

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<v Speaker 1>the straight, which is what they're doing. And Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is the greatest fool in American foreign policy history.

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<v Speaker 1>There's literally never been a mistake in our foreign policy

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<v Speaker 1>or military history bigger than this one. Vietnam looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a great decision compared to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and now we're saying you can't get out of it,

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<v Speaker 2>which is endlessly I mean, and gas prices, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the question will be will voters vote for me? The

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I'm so struck by is, like we see

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<v Speaker 2>voters really are the thing that has made them so

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<v Speaker 2>sour on Trump. Not the anti democracy thing, not the racism,

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<v Speaker 2>not the sexesm, not the allegations, but literally the gas prices.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you know what, it's the it's the unspinnable molly,

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<v Speaker 1>even maga. Voters can't go to the gas pump where

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<v Speaker 1>they're putting fia gallon gas in their truck and say, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm paying two dollars like Trump said, I am, Because

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<v Speaker 1>then I am, then you're Trump in the day was

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<v Speaker 1>like gas is an average of a dollar eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Show me, show me, show me where it is? Donald

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody else believes it either, because even even the

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<v Speaker 1>and look, you can't spend the price of gas and

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<v Speaker 1>the price of groceries for everyday people, no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>Fox tells them, it's more expensive than it was. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's Trump's fault. There's no other nothing else caused this

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<v Speaker 1>magical rise in gas prices except the war that Trump

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to start and cannot win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the only thing that's cheaper is the diarrhea lettuce.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, not even that is cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, the diarrhea lettuce, to my mind, is

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<v Speaker 1>such a symbol of this country at this point. The

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<v Speaker 1>company that has the diarrhea lettuce just to get deregulation

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<v Speaker 1>so they didn't have to test their poop lettuce to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure the West didn't have poop in the poop lettuce.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now they got their wish. They got their wish.

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<v Speaker 1>We stopped testing for those things. We gave them, We

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<v Speaker 1>gave them the power they wanted, and now they face

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<v Speaker 1>a brand killing catastrophe because the regulation they thought was

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<v Speaker 1>costing them money was actually saving them money in the end.

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<v Speaker 1>And now now tailor farmers are gonna have to rebrand

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<v Speaker 1>as something like definitely not the poop lettuce that will

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<v Speaker 1>cause you explosive diarrhea.

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<v Speaker 2>Support Trump, support anti regulation, and in the end, get

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<v Speaker 2>the poop lettuce.

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<v Speaker 1>Ritt Wilson, mollifast. I'd love to see as always. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope I can come back next week.