Speaker 1: Rick Wilson, Hello, Molly.
Speaker 2: We're just talking about the incredible performance by the Trump
Speaker 2: administration at a political rally for a candidate. So this
Speaker 2: is yesterday's excitement. Donald Trump had his head of his FBI,
Speaker 2: Cash Cautel. You may remember him from drinking at lots
Speaker 2: of big events at the poolroom and with the US
Speaker 2: Olympic team and wherever he can have an opportunity to
Speaker 2: throw a few backs.
Speaker 1: He does love a cocktail.
Speaker 2: Apparently he does love a cocktail. And Donald Trump's new
Speaker 2: sworn in Attorney General doing a rashley for a candidate
Speaker 2: who has no chance of ever winning.
Speaker 1: Discuss Bruce Blakeman. I have as much chance of being
Speaker 1: named the next Pope as Bruce Blakeman has a theem
Speaker 1: governor of New York. But I mean, look at it
Speaker 1: really strikes Catholic, aren't you Catholic? Yeah? Well again again,
Speaker 1: the chance of me becoming pope is rather remote, and
Speaker 1: Bruce Blakeman has less of a chance to becoming New
Speaker 1: York City governor. The problem for me is watching the
Speaker 1: head of the FBI and the head of the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice, who just got confirmed by a fraction by
Speaker 1: a hairy going to a political rally, and the thing
Speaker 1: that offended me the most, set aside, like the meta
Speaker 1: part of it, when that son of a bitch went
Speaker 1: out there and said, well, if you touch a law
Speaker 1: enforcement officer, we're going to go after you the full
Speaker 1: extent of the law, unless you're a January sixth terrorist.
Speaker 1: Of course those people are fine. Those money, Yeah, gonna
Speaker 1: get paid for attacking cops. And yeah, so I don't
Speaker 1: know if you caught meet the press this morning, but
Speaker 1: Blanche was on there with Welker and he said, and
Speaker 1: she said, well, you know what if Doronald Trump asked
Speaker 1: you to break the law, and he's like, he would
Speaker 1: never do that. Oh no, oh come on.
Speaker 2: Man, I think it's worth actually just pausing for a
Speaker 2: second and going through it, because during this thing he
Speaker 2: didn't even.
Speaker 1: Just say that.
Speaker 2: He also said, so Walker said, can you pledge the
Speaker 2: DOJ will always act independently of the White House, which
Speaker 2: is like what we consider to be the baar fucking minimum.
Speaker 1: Pretty yeah, pretty much like the baseline, right, and.
Speaker 2: Bland says, no, I'm not gonna promise that. And no
Speaker 2: attorney general ever should totally disqualifying like every attorney general
Speaker 2: should do that and did do that until this fucking guy. Okay,
Speaker 2: Welker said, So if the president and this is my
Speaker 2: favorite part, So the president asked you to do something
Speaker 2: that you feel cross as an ethical or legal line,
Speaker 2: do you do it? And this is what all of
Speaker 2: Trump's people have said at every like they figured out
Speaker 2: a what they figured out a workaround, right instead of
Speaker 2: saying no, you know what, they what the proper answer is,
Speaker 2: of course I would never do anything illegal. But Blanche
Speaker 2: says what everybody says. He says he would never do that.
Speaker 2: He never has and you never will.
Speaker 1: Oh he has, he many times. And what I have
Speaker 1: to tell you I texted with a US senator about
Speaker 1: two minutes before we came on the air, the Democratic
Speaker 1: US senator, and I said, this is the fundamental grounds
Speaker 1: for your appeachment proceeding against Todd Blanche And he replied, yes,
Speaker 1: it is, because.
Speaker 3: He's gone out there and he said he is absolutely
Speaker 3: going to serve Donald Trump no matter what he wants,
Speaker 3: no matter how illegal it is.
Speaker 1: This and the and the idea that the DOJ is
Speaker 1: subsidiary to the White House and not an independent judicial
Speaker 1: or an independent federal law enforcement agency, is an astounding
Speaker 1: abrogation of his duties. Astounding. I mean, I keep thinking
Speaker 1: that we can't get worse for Blanche, but it's going
Speaker 1: to get worse for Blanche.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's just talk this through for a minute.
Speaker 2: Some of what's happened here is that there is a
Speaker 2: theory behind this. It's called the unitary executive theory, correct,
Speaker 2: And what it means is that you can just the
Speaker 2: president is a fucking king. And the Supreme Court loves
Speaker 2: this theory because it's filled with right wingers and this
Speaker 2: is their guy. But the reality is is that the
Speaker 2: justice system, nothing is set up to make this work
Speaker 2: for Trump, and ultimately the idea and watching it happen
Speaker 2: in real time is disturbing all of our every the
Speaker 2: whole way the government is.
Speaker 1: Set up, Malli. The fundamental structure of the balance of powers,
Speaker 1: between the tripartepe division of powers, between the branches, the
Speaker 1: long legal frameworks that exist both in the Constitution and
Speaker 1: in the rule of law in this country, all of
Speaker 1: them are built to resist unitary executive power. They're built
Speaker 1: to resist a king. That was the fundamental design speck
Speaker 1: of the constitution. No fucking kings, right, Russell Vaught and
Speaker 1: a number of these weirdos inside of Trump's universe. Boris
Speaker 1: Epstein and others are really pushing as hard in as
Speaker 1: far as they can, and then Todd Blanche is now
Speaker 1: their eager handmaiden to say, there is no universal there
Speaker 1: is no bounds on the president's power. His power is
Speaker 1: unlimited and universal, and he can do whatever he wants,
Speaker 1: anytime he wants, on any issue he wants, and every
Speaker 1: part of government must in fact bend to him no
Speaker 1: matter what the law says. Listen, We're going to have
Speaker 1: a collision here. It is going to happen sooner than later.
Speaker 1: It's happening right now because our friend Katie Fang is
Speaker 1: pushing Todd Blanche over the cliff, winning every single one
Speaker 1: of these motions on the Epstein materials, as Blanche continues
Speaker 1: to illegally cover up the Epstein materials that in order
Speaker 1: to protect Donald Trump and solely to protect Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also probably to protect Donald Trump's friends and yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there are probably a lot of people
Speaker 2: you know, the how but our lond Nick's in there
Speaker 2: are all sorts of other.
Speaker 1: People from Trump or older, and Steve in there.
Speaker 2: Steve Bannon, Yeah, so I do think and do not
Speaker 2: forget Michael Wolfe, who is very mad at me because
Speaker 2: I always write about how he's in there, but he
Speaker 2: is very much in the Epstein files. And even like
Speaker 2: Michael Wolfe who had extensive in the Epstein many emails
Speaker 2: and text messages for many emails, and.
Speaker 1: And other people that and other people that Trump. Now,
Speaker 1: if there are still people that are that are active
Speaker 1: financially or politically, I'm sure Trump is is nodding and
Speaker 1: winking at them like, hey, I'm helping you out. Where's
Speaker 1: my vig pay me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and that is a larger question of the presidency.
Speaker 2: But here we are in August. We're about to or
Speaker 2: less than one hundred days from the midterms, and it's
Speaker 2: interesting to me, like we're cruising into the mid RUMs
Speaker 2: and polling for Republicans. I mean, Donald Trump is pulling
Speaker 2: the worst of any president in history.
Speaker 1: Barnatur.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, well, I mean I assume that they're probably
Speaker 2: Andrew Jackson. Donald Trump's favor did not pull so well.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that was Listen. Here here's the thing, folks,
Speaker 1: I've been I have paid in my career for many,
Speaker 1: many millions of dollars worth of polling in hundreds and
Speaker 1: hundreds of races and issues and corporate assignments, all these things.
Speaker 1: I have consumed polling professionally for my entire career. There
Speaker 1: is a technical term as to where Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: right now. It is America fucking hates Trump and the
Speaker 1: depths of his collapse politically in this country. Do not
Speaker 1: be fooled by Twitter. Do not be fooled by even
Speaker 1: the sort of mainstream media repetition of saying, oh, everyone
Speaker 1: loves Donald Trump and the Republican Party. Even the Republican
Speaker 1: base is cracking. They're down from the nineties to the
Speaker 1: fifties in supporting Trump, in strongly supporting Trump. This is
Speaker 1: a guy in complete political collapse, and the the impact
Speaker 1: is going to hit the party. They all know it,
Speaker 1: they all, they all, they're all making their contingency plans
Speaker 1: now for what happens in November when he goes completely
Speaker 1: off the rails and blames all of them and Molly.
Speaker 1: I have a theory. I have a theory of the
Speaker 1: case that's going on right now. Remember how much money
Speaker 1: he's sitting on between MAGA Inc. And the r n
Speaker 1: C and other super packs he controls it's it's like
Speaker 1: eight hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have a theory that he gave away the game
Speaker 1: the other day when he said, well, they gave the
Speaker 1: money for me. They like me, but they don't like
Speaker 1: other Republicans. I think he's going to sit on a
Speaker 1: lot of that money and keep it. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna say that I'm keeping this money. This is my money.
Speaker 1: I raised that, Haha, he did.
Speaker 2: He has really differentiated between himself. Oh yeah, and the
Speaker 2: Republican Party knew his times. I've seen him say even
Speaker 2: in that interview with Jake Sherman where he said, you know,
Speaker 2: they don't like Republicans, but they like me. Yeah. And
Speaker 2: remember a lot of Republicans are trying to get that
Speaker 2: maga inc mind.
Speaker 1: Well, Ken Passon is a calling every day begging please
Speaker 1: come in. I need one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: Good lad Jackson. Is it really interesting in my mind
Speaker 2: that they're not that nobody has come to Ken Pattin's
Speaker 2: age because early money and you know this better than anyone,
Speaker 2: explain to our listeners what the difference between early money
Speaker 2: and late money is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, the more you can get in the door faster.
Speaker 1: First off, it's cheaper to buy media earlier than later.
Speaker 1: In the October media is very very expensive, whether it's
Speaker 1: digital or cable or god forbid, if you're still doing
Speaker 1: broadcast broadcast, the early media is a lot less expensive.
Speaker 1: The The other thing is, in this environment, this media environment,
Speaker 1: you have to beat the message in for longer than
Speaker 1: you think. You have to really convince people, and you
Speaker 1: have to hit him over the head a number of times,
Speaker 1: not just like not just like two weeks in a
Speaker 1: cloud of dust at the end of the campaign. All
Speaker 1: of this stuff really adds up to putting people like
Speaker 1: Ken Paxson in a very deep hole. Paxson's not raising
Speaker 1: the money tall Rico is. He's not spending the money
Speaker 1: on the air like Tall Rico is. I will give
Speaker 1: you a little bit of an inside like secret Republican
Speaker 1: infighting that's going on here. Kim Paxton's consultant is a
Speaker 1: guy named Jeff row and jeffro is a notorious pirate
Speaker 1: when it comes to Republican campaign like he brags that
Speaker 1: he takes sixty seven percent of every dollar in the
Speaker 1: campaign spends for himself.
Speaker 2: And didn't you work for you work.
Speaker 1: For Desantas and that worked out really well for Dissantas
Speaker 1: he's president. Now, yeah, oh absolutely, President Desantas is doing great.
Speaker 1: But the Republican establishment in DC hates Jeff Row so
Speaker 1: much that they're like, no, we're not wasting our money
Speaker 1: with that guy. We're not letting him take. If they
Speaker 1: do spend one hundred million dollars and Jeff Row wants
Speaker 1: to keep two thirds of it, that ain't gonna work
Speaker 1: for them. So Jeff Row is a is a cancer
Speaker 1: on Paxson's campaign, above and beyond Paxton being a degenerate criminal, corrupt,
Speaker 1: an adulterer, a weirdo, and probably engaged in some really
Speaker 1: weird shenanigans. Because a guy who makes one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy grand a year, who owns fourteen multimillion dollar properties
Speaker 1: around the country, something may add up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm really interested in Paxton's total inability
Speaker 2: to campaign in any which way. I mean, this guy
Speaker 2: killed Cornan, right, I mean he just killed Cornan in
Speaker 2: the primary. I mean they spent and spent and spent
Speaker 2: and he creamed him. And then now he's the nominee
Speaker 2: and he seems, you know, he's in Europe, he's got a.
Speaker 1: Girlfriend, he's on vacation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what do you think is going on there.
Speaker 1: That I think he's already checked out. I think he
Speaker 1: does not feel like he could win, and he's checked out.
Speaker 1: But he also molly represents weirdly. It used to be
Speaker 1: the Republicans who would catch a populous wave early and
Speaker 1: try to ride it, and he's trying to ride something
Speaker 1: now that feels like it's from twenty ten rather than
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty six. Tal Marico feels very of the moment.
Speaker 1: He's engaged, he's he's warm, He's a guy who's talking
Speaker 1: to people where they are at on the economy and
Speaker 1: on and on what they need. He's not taken the
Speaker 1: bait from Paxton. Paxton's gonna go in the next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, guys, just he'll get some money in the
Speaker 1: door eventually from his billionaire oil and gas guys, and
Speaker 1: he'll go up and'll be transpillionaire. That'll all that's gonna
Speaker 1: be always got and it's not gonna work.
Speaker 2: But he but he does have like I mean, remember
Speaker 2: he has a Texas or two big Texas billionaires who
Speaker 2: funded who have funded his impeachment trip.
Speaker 1: Correct they bought they basically bought the Texas Senate majority.
Speaker 1: They went in and said, here, if you but if you'll,
Speaker 1: if you'll kill this impeachment, we're gonna give you all
Speaker 1: a you know whatever amount of money. Yeah, stop, and
Speaker 1: they did. These guys are are like they're also the
Speaker 1: people who fund a lot of these right wing news
Speaker 1: sites and they're the classic Maga hate machine billionaires.
Speaker 2: So what do you think right now, because it's a
Speaker 2: weird moment. We got Trump Trump versus Iran. The Iranians
Speaker 2: seem to be winning. Every time he says we're near deal,
Speaker 2: or he went on TV and he said we're gonna
Speaker 2: crush them, and then they tweet, you know, fuck you,
Speaker 2: or try try moving your stuff through the straight buddy,
Speaker 2: and you know, you never got to hand it to
Speaker 2: a murderous regime. But they are really It strikes me
Speaker 2: like there's a parallel with the Ukrainians there, like they
Speaker 2: are they shouldn't be winning, but clearly they are there.
Speaker 1: They are absolutely winning this battle. And again, you're a
Speaker 1: right Nobody here is a fan of a regime that
Speaker 1: hangs gay people from cranes in the street. Nobody here
Speaker 1: is a fan of a regime that treats women like cattle. Nobody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they have strategically figured Trump out. They understand that
Speaker 1: he's not smart. They understand that Pete Hegsetts should not
Speaker 1: be running a seven to eleven, much less the Department
Speaker 1: of Defense, And in all these regards, they now understand
Speaker 1: the time is their friend. They can wait it out.
Speaker 1: We don't even have the missiles left to attack them
Speaker 1: now to cause them enough harm so that they will
Speaker 1: would capitulate. And even if we did attack them and
Speaker 1: we knock them back in the stone age, they don't care.
Speaker 1: That gives them regime more power over the people of Iran,
Speaker 1: not less power. They care about their survival and they're
Speaker 1: gonna survive. They figured this thing out. None of them
Speaker 1: are using cell phones anymore. They're all using They're all
Speaker 1: using messengers on motorcycles, taking handwritten notes back and forth.
Speaker 1: Does it slow things down, Sure of course it does.
Speaker 1: But does it make it so we can put them
Speaker 1: down and target them and kill them, Yes, it does.
Speaker 1: So we got into this war in part because net
Speaker 1: and Yahoo Wamma Jam and Trump into it. But Trump
Speaker 1: also did it because he wanted to be the tough guy.
Speaker 1: He thought he was going to scare them or intimidate them,
Speaker 1: and that except that an ironclad plan to beat them.
Speaker 1: And like we've talked about before, every professional who has
Speaker 1: studied the Gulf, who has followed along for the last
Speaker 1: forty years in that region has said, you know what,
Speaker 1: going to war with Iran has consequences that we can't control.
Speaker 1: I mean, so let me just say this to your
Speaker 1: audience here.
Speaker 2: Anyone who's read The Economist knows it closes straight in
Speaker 2: is a country of eighty million people. And we don't
Speaker 2: have to be a genius here.
Speaker 1: Here's here's a funny thing that people, you know in
Speaker 1: this audience may not may not immediately grasp. Even Dick
Speaker 1: Cheney was like, no, no, that's too much. We're not going
Speaker 1: to go to war with Iran. Yeah, even Dick Cheney,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, okay, who was surrounded by a bunch of
Speaker 1: boots who were hockeier than Dick Cheney, who people who
Speaker 1: really wanted to turn Iran into a parking lot. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We deconflicted with Iran in the in desert storm. We
Speaker 1: deconflicted with Iran during during the Iraq War. I mean,
Speaker 1: we had we sprints back and forth at the lower levels,
Speaker 1: But everybody realized what would happen to the world economy
Speaker 1: if Iran decided to use cheap sea minds to close
Speaker 1: the straight, which is what they're doing. And Trump is
Speaker 1: Trump is the greatest fool in American foreign policy history.
Speaker 1: There's literally never been a mistake in our foreign policy
Speaker 1: or military history bigger than this one. Vietnam looked like
Speaker 1: a great decision compared to this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we're saying you can't get out of it,
Speaker 2: which is endlessly I mean, and gas prices, and so
Speaker 2: the question will be will voters vote for me? The
Speaker 2: thing that I'm so struck by is, like we see
Speaker 2: voters really are the thing that has made them so
Speaker 2: sour on Trump. Not the anti democracy thing, not the racism,
Speaker 2: not the sexesm, not the allegations, but literally the gas prices.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, it's the it's the unspinnable molly,
Speaker 1: even maga. Voters can't go to the gas pump where
Speaker 1: they're putting fia gallon gas in their truck and say, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm paying two dollars like Trump said, I am, Because
Speaker 1: then I am, then you're Trump in the day was
Speaker 1: like gas is an average of a dollar eighty nine.
Speaker 1: Show me, show me, show me where it is? Donald
Speaker 1: and nobody else believes it either, because even even the
Speaker 1: and look, you can't spend the price of gas and
Speaker 1: the price of groceries for everyday people, no matter what
Speaker 1: Fox tells them, it's more expensive than it was. And
Speaker 1: it's Trump's fault. There's no other nothing else caused this
Speaker 1: magical rise in gas prices except the war that Trump
Speaker 1: didn't have to start and cannot win.
Speaker 2: Yes, the only thing that's cheaper is the diarrhea lettuce.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, not even that is cheaper.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the diarrhea lettuce, to my mind, is
Speaker 1: such a symbol of this country at this point. The
Speaker 1: company that has the diarrhea lettuce just to get deregulation
Speaker 1: so they didn't have to test their poop lettuce to
Speaker 1: make sure the West didn't have poop in the poop lettuce.
Speaker 1: And so now they got their wish. They got their wish.
Speaker 1: We stopped testing for those things. We gave them, We
Speaker 1: gave them the power they wanted, and now they face
Speaker 1: a brand killing catastrophe because the regulation they thought was
Speaker 1: costing them money was actually saving them money in the end.
Speaker 1: And now now tailor farmers are gonna have to rebrand
Speaker 1: as something like definitely not the poop lettuce that will
Speaker 1: cause you explosive diarrhea.
Speaker 2: Support Trump, support anti regulation, and in the end, get
Speaker 2: the poop lettuce.
Speaker 1: Ritt Wilson, mollifast. I'd love to see as always. I
Speaker 1: hope I can come back next week.