WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:07.160 It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:08.960 Sports Talk seven ninety. 3 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:11.240 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think 4 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:11.759 when we. 5 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:15.439 Are get off our show, idiots, the kids are playing 6 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:16.039 or trail off. 7 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:17.640 The countries are screwing it up. 8 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:20.960 Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals. 9 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:22.199 They're supposed to. 10 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:25.839 Be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's the kid here? 11 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:28.519 Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 12 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:29.559 Now? 13 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:34.560 Here's Nick coffee? 14 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:39.960 All right, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, let's get 15 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:43.439 it started. Let's get another week started here Coffee and Company, 16 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.200 fueled Beth Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick Coffee, 17 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:49.520 that's me. If you didn't know that, now you do. 18 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:53.560 Another voice you'll hear today is Austin Montgomery. Who's alongside. 19 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:56.320 That's me, and we're happy to have you. We're happy 20 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:57.280 to have everybody here. 21 00:00:57.320 --> 00:00:57.520 Again. 22 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:00.359 It's coffee and company, meaning if you're here with us, 23 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.359 if you're listening, you are your company. You're a guest essentially, 24 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:04.719 but we don't want you to feel like a guest. 25 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:08.040 Make yourself at home and enjoy yourself for these next 26 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:11.519 three hours chick your feet up exactly, and just if 27 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:13.599 you do have to, you know, do stuff to where 28 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:15.959 you can't just be relaxing, feed up. Just know you 29 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:17.799 can take us with you. Listen live on the iHeartRadio 30 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:21.319 app Listen live. It's seven ninety Louisville dot com. We've 31 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:25.079 got super Bowls set and clearly there's a lot of 32 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:30.159 fatigue with really both these teams. And I've often tried 33 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:35.640 to embrace greatness whenever it comes to sports, because you know, 34 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:42.519 there are athletes, teams, dynasties. I guess that become pretty 35 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:44.799 easy to dislike you get tired of them. I mean, 36 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:46.719 I think fatigue is a real thing in sports as 37 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:50.599 a viewer, but I feel like, more often than not, 38 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:52.840 when that's happened in my life as a fan, I've 39 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:56.359 been able to, you know, not let it consume me, 40 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:59.879 right like, not make it to it's not let me 41 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:01.640 got to get to the point where I just don't 42 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:04.480 want to watch, because there are teams that I just 43 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:07.799 genuinely don't like or don't want to see win. But 44 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:09.159 I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do it. 45 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:12.879 I cannot imagine that I'll avoid the super Bowl because 46 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:15.919 I just I mean talk about fomo, like if like 47 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:19.199 if the super Bowl's on and everybody, because socially, there's 48 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:23.360 not a person I know that that is not doing 49 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:25.360 something for super Bowl. Rather it be I mean, I 50 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.599 shouldn't say doing something. Maybe you're not going to a party, 51 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:30.039 but like it's appointment viewing for a lot of people, 52 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:31.840 even if you're not like a big sports fan. Clearly 53 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:33.960 sports a big part of my life. So it's not 54 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:36.759 like I'm saying here I'm so upset that I just 55 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:39.080 don't want I won't watch. I'm gonna watch, but man, 56 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:41.680 the fatigue is at an all time high. And I 57 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.800 can acknowledge greatness with Mahomes and the Chiefs, I can 58 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:48.479 even acknowledge maybe not greatness, but like the Eagles, they 59 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:51.840 have a very great franchise, they have a winning culture. 60 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.479 This is their second time there in three years. They're 61 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:57.120 not that far removed from winning one with Nick Foles, 62 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:00.919 so you know they're they're great too. But man, I 63 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:03.879 just I don't like either of these teams really, And 64 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.599 I'm sure when this thing kicks off next Sunday, it'll 65 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:10.159 just be automatic for me. I want to have to 66 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:11.919 think about it at all. I'm gonna be cheering for 67 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:14.159 the Eagles. I just imagine that's what will take place. 68 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:17.479 But I think it just seemed like last night the 69 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:21.560 haters know that they're haters for reasons that are you know, 70 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:24.560 really just they fall under being a hater, right, Like 71 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:28.439 I don't I've said this many times since the Mahomes 72 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.960 and the Chiefs have really been in this position, which 73 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:32.719 has been a long time folks, Like, I know, they've won, 74 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:35.159 they've won two in a row. This will be the 75 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:37.439 three peat if they get it done. But even before 76 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:41.080 the first one here of this potential three peat, like 77 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:43.840 they were the face of the NFL when it comes 78 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.159 to their franchise, right once, once the Patriots kind of 79 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:49.639 faded away, it became the Chiefs. And even before then, 80 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:51.479 the Chiefs were already sort of a big deal in 81 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:55.400 the NFL. So I've always felt like, man, I wish 82 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:57.479 they were a little bit more easy to hate. I 83 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.240 think Travis Kelce is a pretty easy guy to know, 84 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:03.080 can't stand Yeah, I mean, and I think he probably 85 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:05.400 would even you know, like tell you that, like that's 86 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:07.199 kind of part of his brand. But ay reads not 87 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:10.159 easy to dislike. Yeah, I don't know many Chiefs fans. 88 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:12.039 I think if I did live around them, then maybe 89 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:14.800 it'd be a little easier. But one of my bigger 90 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:16.639 and I'm sure Kentucky fans feel the same way. And 91 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:18.519 Austin I know. You know this when you think of 92 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:22.519 like the you know, the anti Kentucky vibe that Louisville 93 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:23.959 fans have and vice versa. 94 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:24.560 On the other. 95 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:28.560 Side, because players, coaches and all that, they come and go, 96 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:31.439 you don't maybe maybe you do think of a specific fan, 97 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:33.160 like maybe if you're a Louisville fan and you're a 98 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.519 hater of Kentucky, maybe you just think of Mad Jones, 99 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:37.360 And if you do, I get it, Like I understand, 100 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:40.879 but like you just think of their fan base in general, 101 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:42.639 and you know that not every fan is the same 102 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:44.959 and all that kind of stuff. But like with the Chiefs, 103 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:48.360 I really don't know what makes them so hateable other 104 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:50.600 than the fact that they're really really good. Like Pat 105 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:53.879 Mahomes last night, he did the weird he messed up 106 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:55.680 trying to spike the ball and then he kind of, 107 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:58.839 you know, he had fun with it and you know, 108 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:01.680 tried to make I guess, make fun of himself. Like 109 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:03.839 I think he seems to be a pretty likable guy. 110 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:06.759 Like I haven't watched the show, but it hit me 111 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:10.120 last night. I think the reason that the Quarterback show 112 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:12.160 that I have not yet watched on Netflix that's now 113 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:15.120 really old. I think they've done like two seasons or something. Yeah, 114 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:17.240 but everybody tells me that like Pat Mahomes seems like 115 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:19.639 a pretty down to earth, chill guy that like, you 116 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.439 probably won't think he's like the best dude in the 117 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:25.000 world if you watch it, but you'll probably find him 118 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:29.240 pretty hard to really dislike. Because Yeah, and one thing 119 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:32.000 that I think that he has done well that like, 120 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:34.600 I think he deserves more credit for. I don't really 121 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:35.600 know how you go out of your way to do 122 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:36.839 it because it has nothing to do with him as 123 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:40.639 a player. But like his family have been huge distractions 124 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:43.680 and have been, you know, awful, Like they're the ones 125 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.279 who are really easy to dislike. His wife not as 126 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:49.040 much anymore, but even every now and then, she still 127 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:51.319 like just wants to inject herself into a story when 128 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:53.439 she's not needed. Uh huh, and she just I mean again, 129 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:56.120 this is me being honest with you. It shouldn't matter. 130 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:58.600 But her voice alone, I'm like out, no, no, I'm 131 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.040 out on her. And then there is a clown, an 132 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:04.240 absolute clown that that has had Jackson. Yeah, that has 133 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:06.560 been arrested for some awful stuff and I think charges 134 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:08.439 were at some point drop, but like there was video 135 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.279 surveillance of what he he seems like a real piece 136 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:11.680 of work. 137 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.959 It's dad. Hopefully he gets help, but it's dad, I 138 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:16.319 mean his dad. 139 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:19.199 If it wasn't Patrick Mahomes, you know, the senior, he 140 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:21.040 might have been prison for as many du wise as 141 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:23.600 he had. Dude, So all that's happened, and yet he's 142 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:27.079 never publicly like making excuses for them, like he kind 143 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:28.720 of just you know, like that would be tough to 144 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:32.920 deal with. So I did a lot of thinking last night, 145 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.759 like am I about to like embrace the Chiefs in Hell? No, 146 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:38.600 I can't do it, But I just want to have 147 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:42.439 something to root for in the Super Bowl, And when 148 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:44.240 it starts, I'm going to be rooting. 149 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:47.040 For the the Eagles. I think it'll come naturally. 150 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:51.480 But I don't like the Eagles either, And I guess 151 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:53.600 I'm I'm not doing what a lot of others are 152 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:55.879 doing because I've seen this and I don't know if 153 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:57.600 it's just like something to do for attention. 154 00:06:58.079 --> 00:06:59.759 But there are some people that are like, look, I. 155 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:02.480 Didn't I never really liked them, but man, I'm kind 156 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:04.720 of I'm kind of just being the devil's advocate here. 157 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:06.680 I kind of like the Chiefs only because of how 158 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:09.279 many people hate them. And you do see that from 159 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:11.879 time to time, right, Like somebody is so hateable, and 160 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:14.279 then all of a sudden, you know it's worked for 161 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:18.680 them to where they they People find redeeming qualities in 162 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:19.319 people like that. 163 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:21.279 But yeah, this is the matchup. 164 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:23.360 Neither of us want it, right, and it's the one 165 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:26.800 we got, and I mean, I guess, I mean we'll we'll. 166 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:29.199 I mean, I say, we'll see what happens. I have 167 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:32.240 a very hard time seeing seeing the Chiefs lose. But 168 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:34.720 then again, the Eagles have looked really impressive throughout the 169 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:37.079 entire postseason, and I've mentioned it here and there over 170 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:39.160 the last few weeks as the playoffs have gotten started, 171 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.199 like they're not only good, Like I didn't realize they 172 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:44.240 had a phenomenal season and they're playing really well right now, 173 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.480 so maybe they will in fact get it done. But 174 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.439 I think a Chief's three pet is probably what's most likely. 175 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:51.839 And I'm just curious, like what. 176 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:55.720 The reaction will be, because what else can be said? Right, Like, 177 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.720 I think it'll be a lot of folks acknowledging. Yeah, 178 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.839 Ara dynasty. Yeah they're great, mahomes get some favorable calls 179 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:06.199 and they're really good, but man, I hate them. 180 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:07.759 Like, don't you feel like that'll be that'll be the 181 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:08.600 reaction for most. 182 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:12.560 I just can't stand that meathead Travis Kelcey. 183 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:13.639 I can't. 184 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:15.439 I can't stand to see him up there on the 185 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:18.920 Winter Circle doing the you gotta fight for your right 186 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:21.360 to party or because you kind of look like him 187 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:24.120 and he should stop it. He's such a d bag 188 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.399 and you see him acting like that, and it makes 189 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:28.519 you makes you feel bad because you're like, wait a second, 190 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:29.279 that guy looks like me. 191 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.480 He needs to carry himself a little bit exactly. 192 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:34.720 Or maybe I could just be him, except I'm unathletic, 193 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:36.519 and I'm like, I don't put my mind to things. 194 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:38.519 I think you've got all the good traits that he 195 00:08:38.559 --> 00:08:39.440 doesn't have, though oh. 196 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:41.559 Of course I probably got a better beard than he does. 197 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:42.240 I'm not gonna lie. 198 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:44.399 Think you look like him. Is the is the is 199 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:46.120 the facial hair that's what really stood out. And you're 200 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:46.759 pretty tall too. 201 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:50.960 It's a little bit. I can hard one. 202 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:52.639 You didn't you didn't expect me to be guessed, and 203 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:54.399 you have no the first ten minutes of the show. 204 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:57.200 Here like it purely there we are purely unletted gas 205 00:08:57.279 --> 00:08:57.600 up too. 206 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:59.360 I kind of like that not diesel work. 207 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:04.679 I I I'm sure there are many And I'm not asking, 208 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:06.360 like for people to call in and like make this 209 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.360 part of the show, but I am, and I guess 210 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:09.360 this is you know I'm asking. 211 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:10.600 But then again, I don't really want to make it 212 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:12.279 a huge thing. But I just thought. 213 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:14.480 About this right before the show started, and I probably 214 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:16.080 could have done a little more prep to maybe answer 215 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:17.600 my own question if it didn't come to me at 216 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:22.360 about two fifty eight. But was there fatigue with Jordan 217 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:24.480 and the Bulls? I mean again, you see, I would 218 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:26.799 have know that was kind of so hourly in my time. 219 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.279 I remember that era, but I was young. I mean 220 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:31.919 I was I was between like eight seven and I 221 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.159 was feeling like seven and ten during that run of 222 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:36.960 the Bulls, and I remember being a big deal. I mean, 223 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.639 it was all anybody talked about. But and I'm sure 224 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:41.559 there were haters, like people that didn't want to keep 225 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:43.960 seeing Jordan and the Bulls. When I remember as a 226 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:47.879 kid knowing that Jordan got calls that other people didn't like. 227 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:49.960 I remember my dad we watched you know, the Bulls 228 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:51.360 and the Pacers play, and it was a weird thing 229 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:52.759 for me as a kid because I was a diehard 230 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:55.600 Pacers fan. Really, when I thought the pay if the 231 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:59.519 Pacers had their best team, Reggie Miller, Mark Jackson, Jalen Rose, Like, 232 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:02.080 I'm sure it's just what I tell myself to feel 233 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:04.120 better about my Pacers, But like, I feel like I 234 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:06.399 would have been able to see Reggie and the guys 235 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:08.080 win a ring had they not had to go up 236 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:10.720 against you know, the Bulls and Jordan, and then after 237 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:13.559 that it was Kobe and Shaq. So I'm sure that's 238 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:15.279 just what I tell myself to feel better about it. 239 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.080 But like, even knowing that Jordan apparently got some calls 240 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:21.639 that you know, that other players didn't get, I just 241 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.600 there could not have been this level of like just 242 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.720 people being tired of seeing it. And I'm thinking, okay, well, 243 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:31.799 maybe it's just because they were that great. You knew 244 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.320 you were witnessing something that special to where you didn't 245 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:38.519 even really let anything distract you from that. You just 246 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:42.120 knew you're watching this legendary team with the guy that 247 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:44.440 you know is Michael Jordan. I think even in the nineties, 248 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:47.720 people knew Michael Jordan forty years later it roughly thirty 249 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:50.440 years later was going to be remembered as an ultimate legend. 250 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:55.039 So aren't we seeing the same thing here with Patrick Mahomes. 251 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:57.480 I mean, this guy's about to win his four Super Bowl. 252 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:00.039 He's not thirty years old, is he? I mean, I 253 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:01.879 don't think so old as Patrick Mahomes like he. I 254 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:03.960 mean's got to be like twenty seven. You got in 255 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:05.919 the league when he was like twenty eight, and when 256 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:08.320 you look at yeah, he's twenty nine years old, he'll 257 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:11.519 be he'll be thirty thirty incep he's twenty nine, he'll 258 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:13.759 be thirty in September. But again, he's been in the 259 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:17.080 league since twenty seventeen and he's been insanely good since 260 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:19.600 he became their starter. We're talking about a guy who 261 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:22.000 has I mean, I don't know what is what the 262 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:24.600 record is, but he's certainly he has some type of 263 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.480 record already as far as wins in the playoffs, and 264 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:29.320 it might be win percentage, which of course, you know, 265 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:31.600 would make total sense. But like, this guy's twenty nine 266 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:34.399 years old. I don't see him slowing down. And yeah, 267 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:36.679 he maybe wasn't as flashy, his stats weren't as great 268 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:39.279 this year, but none of that's gonna matter with him. 269 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:41.320 If they keep winning in the postseason and he keeps 270 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:44.440 winning Super Bowls and Super Bowl MVPs, I mean, he's 271 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:47.519 going to either He's going to even further his legacy, 272 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:49.360 which has already said as one of the best of 273 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:52.559 all times. So again, it sounds weird kind of saying 274 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:56.399 that that Jordan's greatness is comparable to what Mahomes is 275 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:58.679 doing now, but I mean it is. What I think 276 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:02.559 is the biggest different is that the Internet, like social media, 277 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:04.799 I mean the Internet in general, I suppose, but like 278 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.440 Jordan benefited from there not being as much access, like 279 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:10.440 you know what I mean, like there wasn't there wasn't 280 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:12.519 camera phones back then. I'm not saying he was like 281 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.080 this bad guy or anything like that, but it seems 282 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:16.320 like Jordan in that era. 283 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:18.120 And look, maybe I'm way off here. 284 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:21.960 I'm thirty six years old, so I mean I remember 285 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.759 Jordan playing for Chicago, but I wasn't reading the newspaper 286 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:28.720 or you know, listening to I mean, in fact, that 287 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.320 kind of media didn't really exist back then, right like 288 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:35.200 you had your you had your Capital J columnists that 289 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:38.519 would write some pretty scathing pieces about players and whatnot. 290 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:40.240 But I mean, it was just a different world. So 291 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.639 like if I wanted to hear haters of Michael Jordan 292 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.679 when I was seven years old and nineteen you know, 293 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.360 nineteen ninety four or ninety five or whatever it was, 294 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:49.679 I wouldn't even. 295 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:50.519 Really know where to look for that. 296 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.639 You have to go read like a New York Times article. 297 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:56.600 So I mean, I guess I'm trying to self diagnose here. 298 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:59.000 I know that I'm a hater and I don't really 299 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:01.519 want to be. But then again, like there are like 300 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:06.120 there are see I'm trying to think, Yeah, the Warriors, 301 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.919 I mean that I hated the Warriors and therefore, like 302 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:10.840 I was all in on rooting for the Calves when 303 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:12.519 it was whenever we had I mean, if you can 304 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:14.240 call the rivalry, and that's what really soured me on 305 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:17.279 the NBA is whenever, Like they wouldn't acknowledge that that 306 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:19.399 it was a rivalry, Like they're too cool for rivalries, 307 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:21.799 which the NBA's got bigger issues than just that. But 308 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:24.720 my point is, like, I don't I want them to 309 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.919 be more hateable, and yet everybody hates them, so therefore 310 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:29.799 I kind of at times feel like, all right, well 311 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.799 it's not just me. Everybody doesn't like these guys, but 312 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:37.279 I mean other than other than the Taylor Swift stuff, 313 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:39.679 which again, like I still don't know how legit all 314 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:42.240 that is. Clearly it's not totally made up. But either way, 315 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:44.679 like that just made them annoying, you know what I mean. 316 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:46.559 They didn't make them hate they didn't make them hate it. 317 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:48.559 I think that's what sent everyone over the edge, that 318 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:50.360 they were tired of it and they were just sick of. 319 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:51.320 Oh ye, there's a narrative. 320 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:54.720 Well, they show her every single cutaway, so I'm sick 321 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:56.960 of even though that's not the truth. They do show 322 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:59.559 her a lot, but I don't know, there's just something 323 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:03.039 that's weird about that whole situation. I was once a 324 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:05.840 swiftye way back in the day. I loved I loved 325 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:07.879 the country music Taylor Swift, and I like some of 326 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:10.879 her pop stuff too, but understood like the type of 327 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:13.840 man that she did not want and every single song 328 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.879 that she sung about was about like these d bags 329 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:18.840 like you just said, and then she then then she's 330 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:21.120 all of a sudden with one. And I know he 331 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:23.960 had that catching up with Kelsey where he's just swerving 332 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:24.879 women letting right. 333 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:29.399 I forgot a lot about his brand before he was 334 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:31.759 with her, Like he to me, he was like the. 335 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:32.600 He was a gronk. 336 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:35.080 And I don't mean to do like the stereotypical tight 337 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.240 end thing, but like it's almost like he kind of 338 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:39.639 wanted to be like gronk the party or the knucklehead. 339 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:40.399 And look, he the. 340 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:42.360 Guy that looks you know, I mean, he looks pretty 341 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:44.679 and he's a handsome man, especially when he was younger. 342 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:46.720 He is an athlete, he was built, so he is 343 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.519 obviously using his platform. And I think how they ended 344 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:52.759 up getting together was like as a starter show that 345 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:55.200 the start of there, Yeah, it was something else. The 346 00:14:55.240 --> 00:14:57.559 start of their relationship started like at the beginning of 347 00:14:57.559 --> 00:14:59.559 that aristour a couple of years ago, and he said 348 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:01.879 he answered a question on it and he said something 349 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.480 like Taylor Swift holler at me or something like that. 350 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:07.799 So it's just like using this platform and that's how 351 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:09.720 he got her. Like you probably wouldn't be with her 352 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:11.960 if you just weren't a part of the most famous 353 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:14.600 team right now. But once again, I probably come off 354 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:17.440 as like an absolute hater for that, and go ahead 355 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:19.480 and bury me all you will, But that's just what 356 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:22.799 I can't stand. It's there's nothing to dislike about my homes. 357 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:24.399 I really do like Andy Reid. 358 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:25.039 I like some of it. 359 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:25.639 Ye same here. 360 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:27.360 I love how they could just take a team up. 361 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:29.519 They could just get rid of Tyreek Hill, they're their 362 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:30.879 best receiver that they've ever had. 363 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:32.519 And go out win a championship. They can just. 364 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:36.399 Absolutely get destroyed by the Bucks in the Super Bowl 365 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:38.879 because they don't have an offensive line, and then just 366 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:41.039 restructure it the next year and then they're back like 367 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:42.440 they respect that. 368 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:46.600 They're absolutely in the midst of a dynasty. I don't 369 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:48.840 know if there's a set criteria. I think people kind 370 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.360 of selectively choose what is and what isn't. But I 371 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:55.639 can't imagine how, even if they don't win it next Sunday, 372 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:57.799 which they probably will, how you couldn't say that this 373 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.639 is this is absolutely a dynasty, and really hearing a 374 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.440 lot now as far as it's not one. 375 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:06.039 But I think even the early stages of it. 376 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:09.000 There was a lot of resistance, which again there are 377 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.039 people probably listening right now that are like, yeah, you 378 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:12.879 know what, Nick, maybe you're out of something. There's not 379 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:16.080 necessarily one thing that makes them so easy to dislike, 380 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.679 but man, I dislike him, and I know the mahomes 381 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:21.960 getting favorable calls is clearly. I mean, that's been one 382 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:24.559 of the bigger talking points in the playoffs this season. 383 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.039 But I mean that's not his fault. It's the ref's 384 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:29.799 fault for like rewarding him of that. I mean, maybe 385 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:31.559 you don't like it what he wants, and that's fine, 386 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:33.039 but I think if you were in this position and 387 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.200 you knew that it might work, then maybe you do it. 388 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:37.799 And I didn't see much yesterday that I mean, clearly 389 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.759 there were a couple of instances where it was it 390 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:43.840 was a you're just gonna have to make a decision here, 391 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:46.519 like right, like the interception that they ended up ruling 392 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:49.600 was that was that was late? 393 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:51.279 Yeah? That was was that in that game? 394 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:52.279 Yes? 395 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:52.559 It was? 396 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:55.519 Yeah, the interception that was I mean. 397 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:58.639 Trying to think of who the receiver was that went 398 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.399 up to get it, but then it looks it should 399 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:03.000 have been it should have been in my opinion and incompletion, 400 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:04.960 because I'm not sure anybody really on the ground even 401 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:08.519