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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Nicole. My name is Dan Ray, the host of Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>We are here every Monday through Friday night and Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks and I well, Rob is back at Broadcast Central

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<v Speaker 2>in Medford in the actually in headquarters. I'm broadcasting remotely,

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<v Speaker 2>but we will both be here at our appointed locations

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<v Speaker 2>every day, every evening this week, and we have a

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting program set up for you this week. We

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<v Speaker 2>will I just want to mention to have the will

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<v Speaker 2>carry the address of President Trump to Congress tomorrow. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>we can talk about that stock market doubiculet. Today we

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<v Speaker 2>will be talking with CPA Nightside, CPA Mark Misselback about

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<v Speaker 2>your tax returns. And then on Thursday night at nine o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking with Diana Desaglia, the state auditor, about her

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<v Speaker 2>quest to audit the state legislature. And at nine tonight

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk with a member of the Boston Globe

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<v Speaker 2>Editorial Board, Correine Hajah, and I think that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a really interesting conversation. I'm convinced of it. As

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact. A fascinating young woman from Milton, Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard graduate who in her young life, you're graduate from

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<v Speaker 2>Harvid in the twenty twenty one, has accomplished so much

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<v Speaker 2>and now is on the editorial board the Boston Globe

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<v Speaker 2>as a conservative perspective, somewhat certainly a more conservative perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to all of that, but first we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to start off with a renaissance man, if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Charles Farrell is my guest. Charles, Welcome to Nightside. Sir.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing well, Dan, thank you for inviting me.

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<v Speaker 2>I call you a renaissance man because I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>are a professional piano player. You were a manager of boxers,

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<v Speaker 2>including Mitch Green, who's a pretty well known heavyweight, and

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<v Speaker 2>you were a former fighter for the MOB. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what that means. And I guess you also did

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of time on the lamb, as we

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<v Speaker 2>would say in Puerto Rico. You've done a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of everything. Charles, how are you to I welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing very well, thank you, much much more stable

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<v Speaker 3>than the conditions that you've just described.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you have sort of experienced a great many

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<v Speaker 2>aspects of life, I would imagine, So let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>your status. Now you're a jazz pianist and you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to appear locally, I believe a couple of times in

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<v Speaker 2>the next uh in the not too distant future. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about those appearances. Then I want to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you some questions about the book.

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<v Speaker 3>Go right ahead, great, Well, We my friend Russ Lawson,

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<v Speaker 3>who's a fellow pianist, and I are playing a duet

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<v Speaker 3>in March eighth at the Portland Conservatory of Music. Starts

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<v Speaker 3>at seven o'clock I'm sorry, seven point thirty, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a totally improvised program. And the next evening, next afternoon,

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<v Speaker 3>actually Sunday, March ninth, we're playing another concert with guests

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<v Speaker 3>Jenny Tang, who is a magnificent classical pianist, the writer

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<v Speaker 3>James Parker, and a drummer named David Moore, fine drummer

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<v Speaker 3>at the Fraser Performance Studio at three o'clock on Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>than ninth. And that's a much more ambitious program. We're

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<v Speaker 3>doing fairly indescribable music.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well we won't try to describe it that if

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<v Speaker 2>it's indescribable. And you got a book signing event coming

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<v Speaker 2>up also as well, we can talk about that in

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. So how did you become a world class pianist?

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds to me like your prior career is involved

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<v Speaker 2>working for the mob and as a boxing manager. Those

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't assume people would necessarily become pianists with a

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<v Speaker 2>background like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's actually the reverse of that. Playing piano was

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<v Speaker 3>something I've done since I was three, so seventy years now,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's inherited. My mother was a professional vocalist, her

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<v Speaker 3>father was a professional pianist, his father was a professional

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<v Speaker 3>vocust etc. So it was handed to me. So I

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<v Speaker 3>started doing that for a living when I was about twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was an interesting way to make a living,

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<v Speaker 3>but it wound up connecting me strangely enough to the mob,

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<v Speaker 3>because you could play jazz for a living and not

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<v Speaker 3>make very much money, or you could play mob clubs

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<v Speaker 3>and make a lot of money. And I opted to

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<v Speaker 3>make the money. So I wondered, that's how I that's

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<v Speaker 3>how I got started.

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<v Speaker 2>What were some of the clubs that you could assuming

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<v Speaker 2>What were some of the clubs that you played at

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<v Speaker 2>that you made some decent money.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the best one actually was a very very legitimate club.

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<v Speaker 3>I was the musical director of the Charles Playhouse in Boston. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>which was a wonderful job. I got to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>work with people who would just drop in, which was

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<v Speaker 3>a great experience. You know. Zero Mostelle, for example, used

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<v Speaker 3>to come by all the time, right, and you'd never

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<v Speaker 3>know what he would do, so you had to be

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<v Speaker 3>on your toes. But I played clubs like the English

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<v Speaker 3>Social Room in Lawrence and Paula's Lounge and Peabody and

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<v Speaker 3>the Firebarn and Chelsea and these are all these were

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<v Speaker 3>all mobbed.

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<v Speaker 2>Up clubs and so so I assume they're all out

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<v Speaker 2>of business at.

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<v Speaker 3>This point, I hope. So what I just said was

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<v Speaker 3>an an imprudent thing to do. Yeah, I figure all

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<v Speaker 3>out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I understand that. And that would have been

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<v Speaker 2>what seventies, eighties, what's the timeframe on.

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<v Speaker 3>The That would have started actually in the sixties, in

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<v Speaker 3>the mid I started working in the mid sixties and

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<v Speaker 3>I stopped playing in nineteen seventy nine. I was doing

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<v Speaker 3>a regular gig at a club in Boston called Lulu's

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, heard of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Great.

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<v Speaker 2>So then how'd you get how'd you get into boxing?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I've got a couple of minutes left and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to touch upon your book about Mitch Blood Green.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was he's a heavyweight contender.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a heavyweight contender, very interesting guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he fought Mike Tyson. He's the first person to go

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<v Speaker 3>the distance with Tyson without being off as his feet,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was. He was a very very complex guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a gang leader as a kid, and a

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<v Speaker 3>very tough guy and a weirdly principled guy where at

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<v Speaker 3>one point, in a really roundabout way, I was offered

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<v Speaker 3>a million dollars for him to fight Mike Tyson again,

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<v Speaker 3>and he wouldn't take the fight. I couldn't convince him

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<v Speaker 2>Because he was afraid, not because he was afraid.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw him.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a principal guy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He The question he asked me is how much is

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<v Speaker 3>Mike making? And I said, well, you know, I said

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that the thing you should say, which is

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. And he more than more than me,

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<v Speaker 3>well a little more than you know. Of course, heisen

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<v Speaker 3>was making about twenty four million dollars. But there was

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<v Speaker 3>nothing I could do to induce Mitch Green to take

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Interesting, Okay, let's is Mitch Green still alive?

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<v Speaker 3>Mits Green is coming to the book signing on excellent?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I thought. I wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>of that. So the book signing gets us exactly where

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<v Speaker 2>we want to be. We're at the finish line here.

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<v Speaker 2>The book signing is in Brookline at the Brookline booksmith

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<v Speaker 2>When is that?

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<v Speaker 3>That was on March thirtieth at seven pm.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well that's the one we want people to mark

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<v Speaker 2>on their calendar. They can come meet you, buy a book,

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<v Speaker 2>I assume, get an autographed by you and maybe Mitch Green,

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<v Speaker 2>and that would be That would be the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>thing I would be really interested in, to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, because that's a fascinating aspect of your life

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<v Speaker 2>that I want to learn more about. Charles. I really

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you taking the time. We talked about the musical background,

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<v Speaker 2>and we touched stone working with the Mob, But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's as far as we're going to go on

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<v Speaker 2>that one. Okay, at least for tonight's Thanks Charles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks so much. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>My pleasure, my pleasure, Thank you very much. Charles Farrell

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<v Speaker 2>at the Brookline Booksmith coming soon. Check it out. Should

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<v Speaker 2>be fun. When we come back, we're going to go

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<v Speaker 2>from boxing and mob activity and classic piano. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the second annual Postcard Show coming up

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend at the Spell Museum of Stamps and Postal History,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll be talking with Kathy Albert. She's the founder

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<v Speaker 2>of the New England Postcard Club. Right after this. By

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back here on Nightside to talk with

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<v Speaker 2>Kathy Albert about postcards.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>We have had my next guest, Kathy Albert, on a

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<v Speaker 2>it around their annual Postcard Show, which is this Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>March ninth, out at the Spellman Museum of Stamps and

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<v Speaker 2>Postal History, which is a beautiful facility on the campus

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<v Speaker 2>of Regis College, which I think is technically in Weston. Kathy,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to Nightside.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, thanks for having me. Dan, great to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're going to talk a little bit about postcards.

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<v Speaker 2>I was intrigued by this about a year or so

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<v Speaker 2>when we first met one another. I actually went out

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<v Speaker 2>there and met you. There's a lot of people here

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<v Speaker 2>in New England who love collecting and trading and I

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<v Speaker 2>guess in some cases selling or buying postcards. I never

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<v Speaker 2>realized the extent of the interest in this hobby.

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty wide ranging. So many different kinds of people

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<v Speaker 4>collect postcards and for so many different reasons. When I

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<v Speaker 4>started collecting them, they were just because they were beautiful

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<v Speaker 4>or unusual. But over the years I discovered they have

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<v Speaker 4>historic values, and that's why I'm interested in them now.

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<v Speaker 4>But there are plenty of people that just like to

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<v Speaker 4>collect pictures of their high school or the main street

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Well, well, postcards are a relatively you know phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they haven't been around since a twelve hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>in the late eighteen eighties. Is that when they sort

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<v Speaker 2>of began to bubble up in different places.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, in Europe they did, but in the United States,

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't possible to send a postcard with a picture

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<v Speaker 4>oh one. And at that point you could take the

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I remember. I think there wasn't much more

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<v Speaker 2>after nineteen oh one. I mean, what, you're still there, Kathy,

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<v Speaker 2>when we were kids, what it cost two cents to

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<v Speaker 4>I remember those purple stamps. I think they were two

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<v Speaker 2>And so some people have kept postcards, some people had

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<v Speaker 2>discarded them. Is there a financial aspect to postcards like

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<v Speaker 2>there are to your baseball card collection? Or is more?

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<v Speaker 2>Is postcards almost more of a pure hobby in that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there may be some value to postcards, but it's much

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<v Speaker 2>more the intrinsic value the photograph of the town where

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<v Speaker 2>which is long now been knocked down. Tell us it's

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, there are postcards that have a lot of value.

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<v Speaker 4>You could find a postcard. In fact, I found a

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<v Speaker 4>and her husband her name, he was anyway, somebody famous,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was a very cute card, had a picture

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<v Speaker 2>Come across a postcard that Ruddy McDowell had sent to

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<v Speaker 2>Patrician Neil and her husband, I mean, was that they

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<v Speaker 2>about how is that postcard that's a real personal postcard.

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<v Speaker 4>I went to postcard Stars in New York City, and

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<v Speaker 4>that they lived there, and they sent postcards back and forth.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I mean I found a postcard that was

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<v Speaker 4>sent by Paul McCarty to a Ringo Start. Not that

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't find the actual postcard, but I found a

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<v Speaker 4>scan of it online. So famous people were sending each

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let's assume you had the Paul McCartney to

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<v Speaker 2>Ringo Star a postcard. Realistically, if you had it physically

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<v Speaker 2>That would be worth quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Of money, I would ask. Julian's Auction, which is an

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<v Speaker 4>related items. I don't know, but I do think the

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<v Speaker 4>other thing that's worth a lot of money. Is if

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<v Speaker 4>you had, say something by Alphonse Muka or Apasso or

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<v Speaker 4>they've all done postcards. If you could find one of

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<v Speaker 4>their postcards, that would probably be worth a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the postcards that they would have sent to someone,

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<v Speaker 2>or postcards on which was an art, a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>art that they created that was replicated on the postcard.

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<v Speaker 4>That's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, let okay, I would bet you the And I

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<v Speaker 2>know nothing about the value postcards, but I would bet

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<v Speaker 2>McCartney to Ringo Starr postcard. I mean, not knowing at

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<v Speaker 2>all what was on it or what was involved in it.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was, hey, we're going to meet for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a rehearsal next Saturday. Be there, that that

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<v Speaker 2>postcard would be worth I'm guessing fifty sixty eighty one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars. How do you quantify the value of that.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be the message on that postcard, like you

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<v Speaker 4>are the greatest drummer in the world. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>Well guess what, then the price just went up Because

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<v Speaker 2>if you got Paul McCartney call him Ringo Star, the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest rummer in the world, on a postcard, it's authenticated

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<v Speaker 2>and all of that. I think it's priceless in many respects. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about let us talk real quickly. You have

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<v Speaker 2>a club meeting on Wednesday. Tell us where that is?

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<v Speaker 2>If is that open to the public or no? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that your your leadership meeting?

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<v Speaker 4>That has nothing to do with the postcard show. That

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<v Speaker 4>is the West End Museum has invited me to give

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<v Speaker 4>a presentation on postcards of the West End, you know

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<v Speaker 4>before it was demolished.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of sore where you're giving. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a March fifth at six o'clock? Where is it? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get that in and I then want

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<v Speaker 2>to plug the event on Sunday. Where's the March fifth? Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know meeting in the in the west End or whereabouts.

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<v Speaker 4>That's o'clock on at the West End Museum at one

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford, Yep, standffd's a good size street, very well easy

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<v Speaker 2>to find. And then the event on Sunday, which again

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<v Speaker 2>is out at the Spellman Museum of Stamps and Postal History.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of parking, easy to get to, right off of

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<v Speaker 2>one eight on the campus of Regis College. Tell us

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<v Speaker 2>exactly where that that? What time is that on Sunday?

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<v Speaker 4>Up to ten o'clock and we've got we've got nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>postcard dealers coming from every New England state and New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Weld on with Cathy, hold up once again, how much time?

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Okay, perfect, We got less than a minute left.

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<v Speaker 2>You go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Just really it's really exciting and fun, and come in

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<v Speaker 4>and bring your postcards. If you have postcards you have

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<v Speaker 4>questions about, You'll be happy to answer them. We're just

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<v Speaker 4>really excited to bring postcards into the limelight where they

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<v Speaker 4>belong like they were in the Golden Asia postcards one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now, in case they missed that, I mentioned again,

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<v Speaker 2>what time is it on Sunday?

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<v Speaker 4>It starts at ten and it goes until three o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, ten to three at the Spellman Museum, the Spellman

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<v Speaker 2>Museum on the campus of Reaches College, and they can

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<v Speaker 2>get that information. Do you have a website we can

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<v Speaker 2>mention real quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a Facebook page. The New England Postcard Club

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<v Speaker 4>has its own Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, okay, Kathy, that's it because we got to get

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<v Speaker 2>a CBS special news special worker. You're very welcome, Kathy.

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<v Speaker 2>Have fun on Sunday and good luck on Wednesday. Here

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<v Speaker 2>comes a special CBS News report.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Will let anyone who's been to a store lately knows

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<v Speaker 2>that the price of eggs are on the They're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of going through the roof in some places. They're pretty expenser.

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<v Speaker 2>Around here with us is Brian Templeton. Brian is an

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<v Speaker 2>actual farmer and co owner of Templeton Family or Gaunt Organics. Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Nightside. How are you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing just great, Thanks for having me welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a program called Rent a Chicken program or

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<v Speaker 2>Rent the Chicken program. How I think I got an

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<v Speaker 2>idea what this is, but I want to know when

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<v Speaker 2>did you start this program? How long ago?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, first of all, I have to clarify, it's definitely

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<v Speaker 5>rent the chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>Rent the chicken. Okay, well, thank you very much. Rent

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<v Speaker 2>the chicken. What's the difference between rent the chicken or

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<v Speaker 2>rent the chicken?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't know what rented chicken is, but rent

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<v Speaker 5>the Chicken dot Com is where you want to go

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<v Speaker 5>if you want to rent birds from us.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that's fine. I always like to be accurate,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. But you're renting the chicken. How do

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<v Speaker 2>you rent the chicken? Bryan?

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<v Speaker 5>So we started off in twenty sixteen. We got a

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<v Speaker 5>basically how it works is we have a small coop.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of shaped like a barn, and you can

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<v Speaker 5>rent it with either two or four chickens in it.

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<v Speaker 5>I throw my coops up on a flatbed truck and

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<v Speaker 5>I drive around in the spring and I drop off

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<v Speaker 5>May to late October, and I drop off the birds

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<v Speaker 5>the coop, the feeds, some little treats and some other

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<v Speaker 5>little things that go along with it. And people just

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<v Speaker 5>enjoy having the experience of having chickens in their backyard.

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<v Speaker 5>And of course, yeah, you get some eggs with a bonus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So let me ask you this. What I assumed

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<v Speaker 2>that that if somebody wanted you you could rent. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it a minimum of four or is it? What was

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<v Speaker 2>the number of chickens you could.

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<v Speaker 5>Rent it was either two or four.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that way that chickens have some companionship.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, you are going to have at least two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, gotcha. Now do you have to make sure when

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<v Speaker 2>you drop your chickens off? And I'm gonna ask some

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<v Speaker 2>dumb questions here, but I get paid money to ask

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<v Speaker 2>dumb questions, so, you know, just like you get paid

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<v Speaker 2>money to rent the chickens. My question is, do you

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<v Speaker 2>give these people some instructions as to how to care

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<v Speaker 2>for the chickens to make sure that they're not let

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<v Speaker 2>out in the hot sun all day or or or

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<v Speaker 2>let out in circumstances where they could be endangered. I hope.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, I mean there's a video that they watch

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<v Speaker 5>and they're very and uh and we we informed them

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<v Speaker 5>very well. But you know, the truth of the matter

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<v Speaker 5>is is that the hot sun doesn't really bother them,

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<v Speaker 5>but they can go inside the coops and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>as far as you know them being in danger, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, nature is nature, so we don't. We haven't

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<v Speaker 5>had too many experiences where people's birds have been killed

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<v Speaker 5>by predators. But yeah, what do you really I can

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<v Speaker 2>You know, understand, do you have to have your yard

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<v Speaker 2>or I assume that that you have to have an

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<v Speaker 2>outdoor space. You can't have a condominium and rent chickens,

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<v Speaker 2>I assume, right, Yeah, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I've dropped off any car.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, okay, not just make it clear because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want you to end up getting you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>call tomorrow. So you need it outdoor space though, correct?

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<v Speaker 5>fenced in is great. But I mean we've had people

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but do they have to have being in a

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<v Speaker 2>fenced enclosure? I assumed the coup is like a wooden

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<v Speaker 2>house or or or described when you say you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have a coop for them. Most of us may our

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<v Speaker 2>city slickers, We might not know exactly what that entails. Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it like a little wooden house for the chickens.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's actually shaped like a barn, and it actually

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<v Speaker 5>has wheels on one end so you can lift it

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, but does.

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<v Speaker 2>The does the yard or where? But you know, wherever

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<v Speaker 2>your airutside area have to be enclosed at least so

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<v Speaker 2>that it makes it challenging for a predator to come in?

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<v Speaker 5>No, it doesn't have to be enclosed. I mean the birds.

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<v Speaker 5>The birds are pretty well tuned into their surroundings and

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<v Speaker 5>they can always get right back into the coop. So

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<v Speaker 5>if they do sense danger, they tend to run right

422
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<v Speaker 5>back in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And so can the predator not get in the coop?

424
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<v Speaker 2>Is that the deal? I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Pretty much they can't get in?

426
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, fair enough, Okay, I'm concerned about you know,

427
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<v Speaker 2>animals of all sorts. And then why May to October?

428
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<v Speaker 2>Is that the period of time that the birds can

429
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<v Speaker 2>be outdoors here in New England, you know, without being

430
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<v Speaker 2>you know, sheltered in a big barn. Or is that

431
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<v Speaker 2>the time of year when they are most productive in

432
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<v Speaker 2>laying eggs?

433
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<v Speaker 5>Well, they are more productive when there's more sunlight. But

434
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<v Speaker 5>the idea of the time period is just you know,

435
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<v Speaker 5>to get to get the birds the people, you know,

436
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:05.240
<v Speaker 5>once things dot, you know, the snow melts and things

437
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:07.559
<v Speaker 5>dry up, and then we come and get them before

438
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:10.480
<v Speaker 5>things you know get too cold. And you know, we

439
00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:13.119
<v Speaker 5>people don't want to have to deal with wintering the birds,

440
00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:14.880
<v Speaker 5>which is one of the reasons why they rent them.

441
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<v Speaker 2>So so I want to give you a chance here

442
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<v Speaker 2>to give it a good plug. I think it would

443
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<v Speaker 2>be really interesting for a lot of people, not only

444
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<v Speaker 2>in terms of eggs, but also in terms of teaching kids,

445
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<v Speaker 2>particularly kids who might be either living in the cities

446
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<v Speaker 2>or in the sub in the suburbs, a little bit

447
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 2>about you know, farm life. How expensive is to rent

448
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<v Speaker 2>the chickens in how many let's say you have two

449
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<v Speaker 2>or four chickens, how many eggs do they produce on

450
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<v Speaker 2>a daily basis? You might be able to split the

451
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<v Speaker 2>cost with the neighbors. What I'm trying to get at here.

452
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so for two birds, it's five hundred and ninety

453
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<v Speaker 5>five dollars and for four it's seven thirty five.

454
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<v Speaker 2>So that's for the entire for the entire time from

455
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<v Speaker 2>May to October. That's that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And you know a bird should you know, technically

457
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:08.279
<v Speaker 5>a chicken should lay one egg a day, so you know,

458
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<v Speaker 5>if you have two chickens, then you should be getting

459
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<v Speaker 5>about a dozen eggs a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, So if you you could cut it down

461
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 2>if you split it with a neighbor, you know, instead

462
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<v Speaker 2>of being each you know, five in the five hundred

463
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<v Speaker 2>or so range. Okay, I just don't want people calling

464
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<v Speaker 2>you figuring that you're gonna go to all of this

465
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<v Speaker 2>trouble and drop drop something off for forty nine dollars

466
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<v Speaker 2>and ninety five cents. I mean, this sounds like a

467
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<v Speaker 2>great project. You've done this? Now, how many years? Brian?

468
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<v Speaker 2>I think you started to tell me and I interrupted you.

469
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we started in twenty sixteen, so you know about

470
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<v Speaker 5>nine years. This would be our ninth season.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And have you noticed a real uptick this year

472
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<v Speaker 2>because of the the cost of eggs?

473
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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I think I think sales are up a little

474
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<v Speaker 5>bit it, but I want to clarify. You know the

475
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<v Speaker 5>main reason why people do this renting is because they

476
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<v Speaker 5>want to have the experience of backyard chickens. You know,

477
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:13.119
<v Speaker 5>the eggs are a nice bonus in the deal. But

478
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<v Speaker 5>you know, if you do the math, it's you know,

479
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<v Speaker 5>you wouldn't want to be doing this just for the

480
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<v Speaker 5>egg I.

481
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<v Speaker 2>Get it, No, I get it, but but you know

482
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<v Speaker 2>who knows where this this avian flu thing is going

483
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:27.400
<v Speaker 2>to go? You could be in a situation where you know,

484
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<v Speaker 2>if you got any worse, you could have not only

485
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 2>just an increases and prices, you could have shortages. So

486
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<v Speaker 2>and then the last question, Brian, real quickly, is how

487
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<v Speaker 2>far do you go geographically from from Templeton, New Hampshire

488
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<v Speaker 2>or excuse me not Templeton, New Hampshire. That's your last name,

489
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<v Speaker 2>from Templeton Family Organics in New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, well, we pretty much cover all of New England.

491
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<v Speaker 5>I mean we've we've delivered coopster, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Vermont.

492
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah good, I mean we.

493
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<v Speaker 5>Next service fee outside of a certain mile limit.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, give me your website so people can get in

495
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<v Speaker 2>touch with you.

496
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<v Speaker 5>So we're at real Food NH dot com. That's that's

497
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<v Speaker 5>our farm.

498
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<v Speaker 2>Great, that's easy, realfood dot com.

499
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<v Speaker 5>Yes, but to order the coops, you want to go

500
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<v Speaker 5>to Rent the Chicken dot com.

501
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<v Speaker 2>All right, we got you covered. Rent the Chicken dot com.

502
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<v Speaker 2>We understand why it's important. That's Rent the Chicken dot com.

503
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<v Speaker 2>Frian appreciate it very much. Thanks very much for your

504
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.880
<v Speaker 2>conversation tonight, and I wish you best of luck and

505
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<v Speaker 2>all the success in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, all right, thanks again, appreciate it. We will be

508
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<v Speaker 2>back on Nightside with our fourth and final guest of

509
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 2>the hour this evening. Stay with us. My name is

510
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Dan Ray. This is Nightside. Rob Brooks is lining that

511
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<v Speaker 2>fourth guest up right now.

512
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<v Speaker 1>Now Bet to Day live from the Window World Nice

513
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<v Speaker 1>Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.

514
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<v Speaker 2>Well as occasionally happens, unfortunately, unfortunately, our guest for the

515
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<v Speaker 2>fourth and final segment tonight is not responding to his phone,

516
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<v Speaker 2>and that guest will never be heard here on Night's

517
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Side either tonight or We don't do makeups, so if

518
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<v Speaker 2>that particular guest, it's it's just amazing. Marina does such

519
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 2>a great job with these lining up these eight o'clock guests,

520
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.480
<v Speaker 2>and every once in a while, you know, maybe every

521
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.599
<v Speaker 2>month or so, we lose a guest. And what happens

522
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<v Speaker 2>is that we were going to talk about I'm not

523
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<v Speaker 2>even going to tell you who the person was, because

524
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 2>at this point they're dead to me. They're going to

525
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:57.079
<v Speaker 2>talk about the a thirteen thousand dollars ambulance bill and

526
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>the raising the question of why and how why does

527
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.720
<v Speaker 2>emergency transport cost so much? This was a story about

528
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<v Speaker 2>a guy, I guess who was a runner in San

529
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Francisco and he got hit by car, wasn't badly injured,

530
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:21.559
<v Speaker 2>but sprained an ankle and had a potential concussion. So

531
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<v Speaker 2>an ambulance was dispatched and he was picked up, and

532
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<v Speaker 2>when all the medical bills were finalized, it was a

533
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<v Speaker 2>six mile ambulance ride, which he could have taken in

534
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<v Speaker 2>a cab or in an uber if he had the

535
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>wherewithal to call. But I'd like all of you right now,

536
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<v Speaker 2>for the fun of it, guess what the cost of

537
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.319
<v Speaker 2>the ambulance ride was. Now, give you about ten seconds,

538
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<v Speaker 2>get a figure in your own mind, and I'm sure

539
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<v Speaker 2>some of you are saying five hundred dollars, thousand dollars,

540
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<v Speaker 2>thirteen thousand dollars, ladies and gentlemen, thirteen thousand dollars for

541
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<v Speaker 2>an ambulance ride. Now, this is not someone who has

542
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<v Speaker 2>been you know, run over by a truck and has

543
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>and there happens to be an ambulance there, and the

544
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>ambulance takes that person to the hospital and somehow their

545
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>life is saved. They would have bled out on the street. Now,

546
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.279
<v Speaker 2>this is a guy who you know, a typical accident

547
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>that sadly occurs in every American city, probably several times

548
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<v Speaker 2>a week, where some driver or some pedestrian or runner

549
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>or whatever is not paying attention and boom, you all

550
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden have a person down, and someone calls

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00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.799
<v Speaker 2>nine to one one and they they summon an ambulance.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess the ambulance got there and fairly, you know,

553
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<v Speaker 2>decent time. But I suspect that, and I'm not able

554
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<v Speaker 2>with the guest here to discuss it. I suspect that

555
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:55.559
<v Speaker 2>the ambulance was not a block away, and by time

556
00:31:55.599 --> 00:32:00.279
<v Speaker 2>the ambulance got there, the person probably physically would have

557
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>hailed an uber or a taxi and got into the

558
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>emergency room. Now again, fine, ambulance is there, and you're

559
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:11.799
<v Speaker 2>put on a stretcher and you're rolled into the back

560
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>of the ambulance, and there's people who are already monitoring

561
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>your your size. Now and again, this guy's got a

562
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:24.640
<v Speaker 2>sprained ankle, potential concussion. Thirteen thousand dollars for the ambulance ride. Now,

563
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I know that some of you are going to say, well,

564
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:30.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, the ambulances maybe on any given day only

565
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<v Speaker 2>do a couple of rides, and they have a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of rides thirteenth, that's twenty six thousand dollars. You talk

567
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<v Speaker 2>about the level of cost that all of us are

568
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>paying for medical bills, and we will be doing more

569
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<v Speaker 2>on this in the days ahead, and how much of

570
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>our money is spent on medical bills. And at the

571
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<v Speaker 2>same time, while we're paying more and more for money,

572
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:05.079
<v Speaker 2>more and more doctors are retiring, particularly personal care doctors

573
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<v Speaker 2>because they you know PCP primary care physicians or personal

574
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<v Speaker 2>care physician, whatever you want to call it. They are

575
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<v Speaker 2>on the rung of physicians at the bottom of the

576
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:26.319
<v Speaker 2>pay levels. They're on the first or second run and

577
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 2>the way for doctors to be remunerated appropriately, and I

578
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>think that doctors should because of the amount there's not

579
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>a knock on doctors, because of the amount of work

580
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>that they do to prepare themselves academically, not only while

581
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<v Speaker 2>they're in high school. They take all those AP courses,

582
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<v Speaker 2>the AP biology and all of that. Then they go

583
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<v Speaker 2>off to college and they have to successfully take organic

584
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.880
<v Speaker 2>tech chemistry. That's where they say they really do to

585
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.440
<v Speaker 2>figure out who's the potential to become a doctor. Then

586
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:03.319
<v Speaker 2>they have to graduate college, have to get into some

587
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:06.519
<v Speaker 2>of the best medical schools, the most competitive medical schools

588
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<v Speaker 2>in the country. Some of the doctors actually go offshore

589
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:15.760
<v Speaker 2>to medical schools in foreign countries, and several of those

590
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.239
<v Speaker 2>medical schools, which are really good medical schools, by the way,

591
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 2>in the Caribbean, we're American doctors trained. Because there just

592
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.400
<v Speaker 2>are not enough seats in medical schools in America, which

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk about more, and you will hear that

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<v Speaker 2>as a theme on this program. That has to change.

595
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<v Speaker 2>But it's a system whereby ambulance companies are doing really well.

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00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:41.280
<v Speaker 2>You know. I think many of them are privately owned.

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00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 2>I want to do some more research on this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of those ambulance companies are able

599
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<v Speaker 2>to charge exhorbited rates, exorbited rates such as this rate

600
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<v Speaker 2>of thirteen thousand dollars in San Francisco for a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who was out I believe jogging. I think that the

602
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 2>facts of the story were the he was jogging and

603
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<v Speaker 2>he was hit by a thirteen thousand dollars ambulance bill,

604
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<v Speaker 2>which just seems to be totally out of the question.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at the piece actually here, which was out

606
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<v Speaker 2>of a health news magazine, and it's a young July

607
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<v Speaker 2>at twenty twenty three, hit by a car across the

608
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<v Speaker 2>busy street in San Francisco. He did a flip over

609
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<v Speaker 2>the vehicle and landing in the street before getting himself

610
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 2>to the curb on lockers called an ambulance, but written

611
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<v Speaker 2>instead had friends pick him up and take him to

612
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:39.679
<v Speaker 2>a nearby hospital. I knew the ambulances were expensive. Well,

613
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<v Speaker 2>this guy was not the one who paid the thirteen

614
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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. But the fact of the matter is at

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital, doctors performed a thorough work up, including a

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<v Speaker 2>cat skin, an X rays, an advisement of followup with

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<v Speaker 2>his primary care physician and an orthopedic doctor. He was

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<v Speaker 2>evaluated at second hospital, released without additional treatment. The final

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<v Speaker 2>bill was thirteen thousand dollars. Crazy. I guess as I

620
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<v Speaker 2>look at this story, I guess that because they called

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<v Speaker 2>the ambulance, even though he didn't take any ambulance, he

622
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:17.320
<v Speaker 2>ended up being built for the ambulance. Crazy, just crazy. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we will do more on that. I apologize that our

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<v Speaker 2>fourth and final guest was not available. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk with a young woman, a Harvard

626
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<v Speaker 2>graduate who's a conservative. I think she will admit to

627
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<v Speaker 2>that she is also a member of the Boston Globe

628
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<v Speaker 2>Editorial Board, and she is I think a journalistic superstar

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<v Speaker 2>in the making. We'll be talking with Kareem Hajar after

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<v Speaker 2>the break here on Nightside. Here comes to nine o'clock News.
