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<v Speaker 1>And I just turned around and I call ass out

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<v Speaker 1>of there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy

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<v Speaker 2>of the cult is one of the things that turned

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<v Speaker 2>me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on,

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<v Speaker 2>it turned and looked at us.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things I remember the most, where

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<v Speaker 3>the eyes were going red.

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<v Speaker 2>I see an orb of light. It is just circling

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<v Speaker 2>these steps.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it is waiting for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.

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<v Speaker 2>They're basically like, what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>The top of the muzzle nose and the eyes. As

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<v Speaker 2>soon as I made eye contact with this thing. It

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<v Speaker 2>don't like death.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Tinfoil tells. I'm your host Brandon. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to be joined by my guest Rod Rod.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing doing great? Man? How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Not too bad? We were chit chatting beforehand, talking about

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<v Speaker 3>our weird connection with metal music.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's great. I love it. I love

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<v Speaker 2>I love the fact that you know we have that

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<v Speaker 2>connection and we can talk about metal and all that

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<v Speaker 2>cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely enjoy talking to fellow musicians. I had another

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<v Speaker 3>podcast that I was doing for a while with my

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<v Speaker 3>friend Ed. People on here might recognize him. He's been

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<v Speaker 3>on a few episodes too. But it was called Dark

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<v Speaker 3>Side of the Scene, and we interviewed musicians and instead

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<v Speaker 3>of talking about like a lot of stuff, we'd talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the struggles of being in a band, being a musician,

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<v Speaker 3>and all the horror stories of getting your gears stolen

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that, Like, yeah, stuff that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>ever hear about. So we tried to do that show,

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<v Speaker 3>and we did it for about a year and it

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<v Speaker 3>just didn't pan out the way we wanted it to.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, you know that sounds interesting though, And I

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<v Speaker 2>can relate to that because you know, I've I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>of you know. I I toured through Canada and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the last dates was Quebec, Montreal, Quebec, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we pulled up our van and trailer up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>alongside the venue on the main street, and the promoter

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<v Speaker 2>came out and said, hey, man, like, park your park

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<v Speaker 2>your van and trailer in the back. It's less conspicuous.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, why is this guy so adamant about this?

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like, Hey, He's like, just want to

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<v Speaker 2>let you know, like whole tour buses and and trailers

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<v Speaker 2>have been have been stolen right here because the Russian

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<v Speaker 2>mafia controls a lot of this area and it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>gone and there's no way to get it back. And

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<v Speaker 2>that blew my mind. The whole tour bus.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't know a whole lot of Tory, but

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have to worry about that either, So I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I lucked out.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, you lucked out because it's a headache.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, before we get into it, would you like to

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<v Speaker 3>let the audience know a little bit about yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So my name is Rod Nichols, and I'm from

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<v Speaker 2>Bear County, Bigfoot. I'm based out of San Antonio, Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, the county is Bear County if you

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of put two and two together. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing it for about seven years, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>started out, I think, like a lot of other you know,

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<v Speaker 2>investigators of crypto zoologists, I've started out as a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as as a fan from a from a young person,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just watching Leonard de Moys in search of

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, any of the high strangeness unsolved mysteries,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, any any of the shows that

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<v Speaker 2>were out there at that time. I'm an eighties kid,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, I grew up with all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it was one of those things where

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<v Speaker 2>when I was presented with the idea that there could

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<v Speaker 2>be a you know, a biped that's upwards in eight

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<v Speaker 2>to nine feet tall and covered in hair out there,

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<v Speaker 2>I quickly, I mean, it just it just sucked me in.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I was that kid at the at

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<v Speaker 2>the book fair that was, you know, buying the Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>and Lockness Monster books and just you know, just really

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<v Speaker 2>and I tell people this because I can remember plainly

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<v Speaker 2>just seeing this stuff, you know, on TV. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the Patterson Giblan film is just that the cornerstone

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<v Speaker 2>kind of of of our evidence, you know, or alleged

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<v Speaker 2>evidence whoever you talk to, you know. So for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always felt like I was a believer from from

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<v Speaker 2>day one, from when I just discovered cryptids, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it just it just spiraled into me getting

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<v Speaker 2>into actually I was really into primates. I was into

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<v Speaker 2>the Mountain Gorillas and and Diane Fosse and her work

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and I was such a nerd about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the gorillas and especially the the mountain gorillas up in Africa,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, so it kind of morphed into that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, as I got older, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your life, life happens. You know, you get married, you

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<v Speaker 2>have kids, and you know, you kind of live your life.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I soon found myself on disability and

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<v Speaker 2>from work, and you know, it was going through some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and it was just a really tough time in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. And I remember beinge watching this this this

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<v Speaker 2>channel on YouTube, and it was a guy at a

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<v Speaker 2>Utah and he presented this trace evidence that was in

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<v Speaker 2>the form of wood structures, and I had no recollection

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<v Speaker 2>of what wood structures were, and nor did I know

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<v Speaker 2>these things to be attributed to, you know, quote alleged

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<v Speaker 2>sasquatch activity or cryptodactivity for that matter, or any type

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<v Speaker 2>of viable trace evidence for that matter. You know, so

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<v Speaker 2>for me, you know, watching this guy's videos and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he had he had other stories of him of his

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<v Speaker 2>encounters with some of these creatures as well, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were very compelling. And I watched all of his videos

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just like in one night and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on long term disability. I've gotten nothing else going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of by myself, and so you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>had all the time in the world. So I watched

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<v Speaker 2>all these videos and then the next day I went

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<v Speaker 2>out because the last video this gentleman put out was

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<v Speaker 2>showing you how to go how he find his trace evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought that was fascinating. So he gave you

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<v Speaker 2>the tools, and I think the basis of it was, Hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>if you think that this is a hoax, you think

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<v Speaker 2>that you know people are doing this, you think this

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, boy scouts or homeless people or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'm going to give you the tools to

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<v Speaker 2>go find his trace evidence. And I followed that those

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<v Speaker 2>exact things like but what he showed on the video

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<v Speaker 2>of how to find this stuff, and so I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got nothing else going on. So the next day

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<v Speaker 2>I grabbed my son and and I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>like twelve at the time, and we went out to

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<v Speaker 2>go find this alleged traced evidence. These wood structures. And

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<v Speaker 2>on the same day we went out to go look

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<v Speaker 2>for one. We found a wood structure. It was an

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<v Speaker 2>a frame wood structure. It was very nice. It had

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<v Speaker 2>some really good sized pieces that were that were pretty

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<v Speaker 2>you know, big in diameter, and they're ripped out of

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. They didn't grow there and were fashioned into

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<v Speaker 2>an a frame type of structure that was probably about

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, close to six feet tall. And at

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of this a frame structure there was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some some leaves and some foliage that was just completely flat.

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<v Speaker 2>And I tell this, I tell the story a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really feel like looking at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>that wood structure, it looked like something of some weight

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<v Speaker 2>wood was sitting there or laying down or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it blew my mind when we found this wood structure.

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<v Speaker 2>I was following the you know what this gentleman had

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<v Speaker 2>had laid out for this audience, you know his you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, hey, go out check it out. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what you look for, this is how you do it,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how if I'm mind, you tell me if

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<v Speaker 2>you think this is a hoax, you think that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>putting you on. And when that happened, I was I

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<v Speaker 2>was hooked. From that point on. I was in the

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<v Speaker 2>woods every day, Like I mean, I think I had

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<v Speaker 2>brought my mom out with me a couple of times

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<v Speaker 2>just just and and she had no you know, she

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<v Speaker 2>was blown away as well, you know, and so that

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<v Speaker 2>and that spiraled into what would become Bear Counted Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 2>And I started posting some videos on a Facebook group

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<v Speaker 2>called Project Go and See. And you know, when I

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<v Speaker 2>started doing that, I got some attention from a gentleman

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<v Speaker 2>by the name of Christopher Noel who is in Vermont,

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<v Speaker 2>and he kind of took me under his wing, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he asked me about you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>voice recorders, if I had deployed a voice record. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I like, I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just snapping pictures and video of these weird looking wood

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<v Speaker 2>structures that I'm finding, you know, uh, with with with

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<v Speaker 2>the tools that have been given me from this you

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<v Speaker 2>know YouTube channel, and you know, so he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>took me on his wing and and you know, taught

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<v Speaker 2>me a little bit about his findings and when he

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<v Speaker 2>looked for and just started bouncing ideas off each other.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he put me on his podcast as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That was that was my very first podcast interview ever.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, from there, you know, I've taken anybody

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<v Speaker 2>from a a wildlife biologist out with me to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron des who is in San Antonio from Small Town Monsters.

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<v Speaker 2>He's written a few books for small Town Monsters to

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<v Speaker 2>show him my trace evidence, uh to. Up until recently,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got I've got a chemist that has come out

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<v Speaker 2>with me. He's got a pH d in chemistry from

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard University and chemistry engineering, a bachelor's who was very

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<v Speaker 2>intrigued by what I present. And so you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>where it's been. Wood structures, I believe are are are

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<v Speaker 2>just pretty much kind of my specialty and and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>among other things that I have found as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard, but yeah, that's where that's where I've been,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where it's been for the last seven years.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it sounds like a big journey to go from

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<v Speaker 3>just the starting off to being out in the woods

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<v Speaker 3>and everything else you've been looking into. It's Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like and I don't want to sound like it's

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<v Speaker 3>not like a negative or anything, but it's almost become

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<v Speaker 3>like an addiction for people like what it really it

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<v Speaker 3>really is like once they get into it. Coming from

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<v Speaker 3>someone who's played music and been in bands or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>I totally understand it. Yeah, the show is my outlet.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what banned stuff used to be for me. So

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<v Speaker 3>going and doing a podcast made sense because it still

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<v Speaker 3>cluts me have that creative outlet. But for someone that's

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<v Speaker 3>not doing that, I can understand where this is a

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<v Speaker 3>new hobby for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it, you know, And that's a good point to make.

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<v Speaker 2>It took the it almost down. Nothing will ever take

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<v Speaker 2>place in music, you know. I grew up in a

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<v Speaker 2>musician household. My dad was a musician, he was a

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<v Speaker 2>former recording artist, you know. So music was always a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, life, life has a way of going. Maybe not,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what happened. And I'm really thankful

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know what, regardless of what you think

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<v Speaker 2>of these cryptids, I have my own opinions, I have

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<v Speaker 2>my own theories and things. But I look back and

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<v Speaker 2>walking miles and miles and and and the exercise, you

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what was really struggling with, was my mental health.

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<v Speaker 3>So for being involved in this for the last seven years.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think this is? I don't expect a

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<v Speaker 2>To you? Man? That's a loaded question, brother. So I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you this. I started out as an aper, I

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<v Speaker 2>It's a giant ape that's evolved and we just got

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<v Speaker 2>insult to anybody that is an aper that believes this

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<v Speaker 2>thing is just solely flesh and blood, right, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean solely flexblow that they just think that that's it

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<v Speaker 2>is what it is like. It's a it's a it's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a biped that is uh a North American

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<v Speaker 2>ape that we have not caught up with. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 2>as I got into it more and more and started

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<v Speaker 2>reading and listening to podcast interviews and and and looking

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<v Speaker 2>at a class A uh sightings and and and class

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<v Speaker 2>B and and just trying to put the pieces together,

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<v Speaker 2>my my mindset was changed by the supernatural elements that

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<v Speaker 2>were just injected into me by some of these first

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<v Speaker 2>person accounts. I said, hey, you know, I saw the creature.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what it looked like. Okay, pretty typical, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of of the characteristics, the behavior was consistent, and then

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<v Speaker 2>this thing just disappeared right in front of my eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA okay? Or hey, I saw this creature and this

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<v Speaker 2>is what it looked like. Great, it looks it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>and it had an orb floating in front of it

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<v Speaker 2>as if it was running. Or hey, I saw this

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<v Speaker 2>thing and it was up in a tree and it

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<v Speaker 2>cloaks like the predator. You know, you know, all of

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<v Speaker 2>these weird supernatural eyewitness accounts. I could not just discard

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And I couldn't sit there and go no.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're talking about people that are professional people, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>of them were our pastors, some of them are are

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<v Speaker 2>are our businessmen or you know, police or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're talking about some people that could probably

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<v Speaker 2>lose their jobs they put their name out there. But

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<v Speaker 2>here they are talking about this supernatural experience. And so

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<v Speaker 2>now I had to sit there and go, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>just sit there with the blinders on Rod and go nope, nope, nope,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's it's a flesh and blood creature and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it is. And you know in a story, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I here's the here's the honest of God's truth. We

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<v Speaker 2>we we all don't know, none of us know. There's

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<v Speaker 2>nobody here I'm convinced that knows exactly what they are, right. So,

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<v Speaker 2>but here we have these supernatural experiences and these eyewitness

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<v Speaker 2>accounts from these people, and it's blowing my mind. So

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, you know, the the the mantra that I

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<v Speaker 2>live by with this stuff is if you're open to

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<v Speaker 2>some of it, you have to be open to all

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<v Speaker 2>of it. There's no way. I can sit there and

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<v Speaker 2>try and make it fit my narrative. No way, because

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<v Speaker 2>there are so many counters of it's saying otherwise. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to say they're they're the majority, but

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<v Speaker 2>we we can't discard these these of encounters, right. So Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I started out like that as like an apron then

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<v Speaker 2>it morphed into what you would maybe call the WU

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<v Speaker 2>right the WU crowd or whatever. I'm I'm right in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle, is what I would say. I'm right in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle. You know. I I do believe these things,

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<v Speaker 2>do believe. I do believe that they're they're physical, uh

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<v Speaker 2>when they're here. But I do believe there are some

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<v Speaker 2>that have of these supernatural abilities that we just cannot comprehend.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I started digging, digging deeper into some Old

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<v Speaker 2>Testament stuff and then uh, and then correlating it with

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<v Speaker 2>the Book of Enoch. Uh, you got the Book of

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<v Speaker 2>Giants as well, that that kind of runs alongside. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a literary I guess companion you can say, to the

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<v Speaker 2>to the Bible, it was it was it was part

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<v Speaker 2>of part of the Bible from what I understand, at

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<v Speaker 2>some point in time, but was discarded for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Uh, that's whole another can of worms here.

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<v Speaker 2>So now I've come to an understanding that it could

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<v Speaker 2>possibly be, and I could be totally wrong, that these

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<v Speaker 2>are remnants of the rough Eyeen, which are a bloodline

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<v Speaker 2>of the Nephelim. And that's that's kind of where I've

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<v Speaker 2>left it right now. Again, I could be totally wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it seems to be kind of

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<v Speaker 2>leading me in that direction. So that's where I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's just because of podcasting, but

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<v Speaker 3>for me, Bigfoot was always just a hairy man out

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<v Speaker 3>in the woods, right it was. But since I've started

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<v Speaker 3>doing this show and I started listening to other shows

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<v Speaker 3>about five years ago, I never listened to a single

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<v Speaker 3>podcast in my life until twenty nineteen. I listened to

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<v Speaker 3>an episode of Joe Rogan because he had Bob Lasar on.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, I saw that documentary with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is the first time I'd ever listened to

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<v Speaker 3>a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was always a band guy. I always listened to

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<v Speaker 3>metal music and stuff. I never had time for podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>I always was some music, and then during Lockdown season

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<v Speaker 3>I had nothing to really do. I had to go

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<v Speaker 3>to work, and then we weren't doing band things, so

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<v Speaker 3>I started to check out podcasts because I'd talked to

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<v Speaker 3>my buddy about all the weird stuff that was going

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<v Speaker 3>on in the world. And that's where I come up

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<v Speaker 3>with the name for the show and all sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But I sat on it for two years. But I

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<v Speaker 3>was listening to a couple of different shows, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>when I started hearing people talk about like I started

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<v Speaker 3>listening to some Bigfoot stuff, and then I listened to

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<v Speaker 3>a couple other shows. But then the whole netflim thing

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<v Speaker 3>started coming out, and then portals got real popular, and

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<v Speaker 3>then all sort like stuff that I'd never had heard

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<v Speaker 3>anyone actually talking about relating to before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where all the research came from. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know where their ideas came from. I don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's when the whole woo thing, like for me

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<v Speaker 3>was like opening up. I still didn't believe it right,

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<v Speaker 3>just because it doesn't make sense and whatever. But the

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<v Speaker 3>more and more I've done this show, I lean more

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<v Speaker 3>towards that I don't want to say WU.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, right, that's supernatural element.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something weird in general, right, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>just because and I'm very skeptical in general. So since

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<v Speaker 3>there's never there's never been a body, there's never been

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<v Speaker 3>anything definitively proven. We've seen videos, we've seen pictures of footprints,

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen this in that, but for me, personally, I've

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<v Speaker 3>never seen one in person. So I can't say that

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<v Speaker 3>bigfits of one hundred percent real because I personally never

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<v Speaker 3>saw a bigfoot. But that doesn't mean I don't believe

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<v Speaker 3>there's something.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there right right right right, But.

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<v Speaker 3>What it is I can't tell you. I don't. Like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, I don't think anyone can definitively say what

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<v Speaker 3>it is because I don't think there's ever been anyone

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<v Speaker 3>that's actually know what it is or m it's really

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<v Speaker 3>like being able to study it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's not like you've got one in your garage

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<v Speaker 2>and sit there and ask it questions or study the body, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we don't have that.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, I have friends that are straight up blood and

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<v Speaker 3>error in it as a undiscovered primate of some sort

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<v Speaker 3>or domind right, and the whole WU aspect or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>is just all made up bullshit. But and I can

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<v Speaker 3>see that pathway to it. But then I also go

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<v Speaker 3>back to Okay, well then why we've never found any right?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Why have there never been any bones uncovered?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep?

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<v Speaker 3>I work in construction where we build new highways, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've been on jobs where we've dug up forest like

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<v Speaker 3>wooded areas because they're building a new four lanes of highway,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're digging up stuff in the woods, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>never just because I've done in a small area doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean anything. But like I see it in that aspect,

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<v Speaker 3>like why hasn't anything ever been uncovered? Like look at

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<v Speaker 3>how we've went from nothing to having roads and housing

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<v Speaker 3>additions and all this new stuff that's happening all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you see all these subdivisions being built. They're always digging.

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<v Speaker 3>How can we've never come across any sort of skeletons?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right? Or nobody's just saying anything.

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<v Speaker 3>If something is that big of a secret and there's

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<v Speaker 3>that many people that have uncovered, what is keeping everyone

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<v Speaker 3>so quiet and why?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a good question. I can tell you this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is kind of a side note. I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I started the Instagram account, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I was maybe a couple of years in with the

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<v Speaker 2>bar kind of bigfoot Instagram account, I had a message

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<v Speaker 2>from somebody that didn't have a profile picture. There was

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<v Speaker 2>not really a name to the profile. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of numbers, like it was just a user

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah blah blah. Right, and this guy he

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<v Speaker 2>said he was a man, and then he didn't give

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<v Speaker 2>his name, but you know, because I was like, who

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<v Speaker 2>am I talking to, ma'am? So I know how I

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<v Speaker 2>know how to address you, you know, sir, ma'am or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I said he was a male. And this guy said

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<v Speaker 2>that he was a part of the clearing up a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of land that was to be the University of

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<v Speaker 2>Texas and San Antonio UTSA. And that patch of land

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<v Speaker 2>runs close to a very prominent creek green belt that

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<v Speaker 2>runs in and out of the city. And so you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a pathway right, and you've got a habitat that

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<v Speaker 2>supports big game in the form of white tail deer.

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<v Speaker 2>So one thing you have to know about San Antonio

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<v Speaker 2>is we don't have bears. We don't have any of

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<v Speaker 2>the normal predatory animals you would probably see maybe in

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado or Oregon or Washington State. Or any of those things. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have black bears and stuff we've got. Maybe you'll

420
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<v Speaker 2>hear about a mountain lion every once in a while,

421
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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe, but it's mainly whitetail deer. That's the kind

422
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:45.720
<v Speaker 2>of the big game. So this guy was telling me

423
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<v Speaker 2>that he was a part of the I guess architecture

424
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<v Speaker 2>or engineering team that was putting together the campus to

425
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<v Speaker 2>be University Texas, San Antonio, and he found that there

426
00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:05.200
<v Speaker 2>were numerous people that were working the big machinery, you know,

427
00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:09.599
<v Speaker 2>the front and loaders and and things of that nature,

428
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<v Speaker 2>that were clearing out the land, that were getting that

429
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:16.640
<v Speaker 2>were up and quitting the same day and leaving. And

430
00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:20.880
<v Speaker 2>come to find out, there was a story, you know,

431
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:24.680
<v Speaker 2>amongst these guys, and it was like, hey, we're clear

432
00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:27.519
<v Speaker 2>out this land. There's something in the woods that is

433
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:31.960
<v Speaker 2>screaming and growling at us and throwing things at us,

434
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.720
<v Speaker 2>and it scared the heck out of these guys. A

435
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:37.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of these guys would quit the same day. So

436
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.319
<v Speaker 2>they were rotating people left and right, trying to get,

437
00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, somebody to stay clear out this land, and

438
00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:47.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of these guys were just up and quit,

439
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.720
<v Speaker 2>up and quit up and quit, and he he reached

440
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:52.200
<v Speaker 2>out to me to tell me, you know, hey, look,

441
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm you know, I don't I'm not gonna tell

442
00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.519
<v Speaker 2>my name or anything like that, but you know, I'm

443
00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 2>going to tell you that this is what happened, This

444
00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:01.759
<v Speaker 2>is what I saw, and and that that was insane

445
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:07.599
<v Speaker 2>to me because you know, you're talking about when you

446
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:12.400
<v Speaker 2>think about an area like San Antonio, any city, you know,

447
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.960
<v Speaker 2>and maybe you've got some wooded areas, I got you,

448
00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:18.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, and and and they're clear out land. You

449
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.720
<v Speaker 2>don't think about, you know, running into something like this.

450
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:24.319
<v Speaker 2>And I think that was just one of the things

451
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:29.279
<v Speaker 2>that really changed my mind about a lot of the

452
00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess the idea that these things aren't just found

453
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:42.680
<v Speaker 2>in remote areas. You know, they travel, they can travel

454
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:49.200
<v Speaker 2>into suburban areas through these creeks, rivers, green belts and

455
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:51.400
<v Speaker 2>have to have passage in and out of the area,

456
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:55.160
<v Speaker 2>but it can happen. And so, you know, so like

457
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>as far as me thinking that, well, I have to

458
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.079
<v Speaker 2>go out and I have to have all this equipment,

459
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 2>and I have to find these remote areas and have

460
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>to go out and just you know, go out and

461
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:10.599
<v Speaker 2>check out these remote areas. It just wasn't the case.

462
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Because right now, I in my backyard, I live up

463
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 2>against one of the major creeks that I research, I

464
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>can I can walk a couple of miles and bam,

465
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>there it is. There's this spot where I did I've

466
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:28.160
<v Speaker 2>done this a cast name of a footprint, or where

467
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.759
<v Speaker 2>I found this wood structure or I found this you

468
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:34.759
<v Speaker 2>know type of thing. And so that really just kind

469
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>of changed the narrative for me, because again, I think

470
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:41.640
<v Speaker 2>when you think about this stuff, you're like, well, you

471
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 2>have to go out, you have to you know, go

472
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 2>out in this remote area. Which I'm not saying that

473
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:51.839
<v Speaker 2>they do not travel or maybe reside in some of

474
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:56.839
<v Speaker 2>these remote areas, but it seems to me that they're

475
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>not above getting an easy meal, they're not above dumpster diving,

476
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>they're not above any of those things. As long as

477
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.440
<v Speaker 2>there is a creek, green belt, or a river that

478
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 2>runs through the area that has some some coverage. Uh,

479
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 2>and you in the habitat supports big game, and you've

480
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:20.079
<v Speaker 2>got a water source maybe at least three to five

481
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:24.119
<v Speaker 2>miles away, you've got a recipe for for some cryptodactivity.

482
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 2>So you know, but going back to the gentleman I

483
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:30.319
<v Speaker 2>was talking to you know, that really opened my eyes

484
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:36.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot to that the the type of activity that

485
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.279
<v Speaker 2>was happening, at least to according to him, in my city.

486
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:43.759
<v Speaker 2>And that just that just it changed a lot for me. So,

487
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:49.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, I I think that again, I think we're

488
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>dealing with something that is flesh and blood when it

489
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>is here. But I think that these these creatures do

490
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.279
<v Speaker 2>possess some type of supernatural element to them that we

491
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:01.799
<v Speaker 2>just can't put our finger on. Because I'm going to

492
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:04.440
<v Speaker 2>tell you this, if it was just if it was

493
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 2>just a primate, if it was an undiscovered primate in

494
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>North America, we would have had one. We would have

495
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>had When you think about the panda that was encrypted

496
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 2>at one point in time until they discovered it. You

497
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:24.559
<v Speaker 2>think about the mountain gorillas that was essentially ENCRYPTID. There's

498
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>no way that gorillas could live in these high elevations.

499
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Lo and behold, they found them, and yeah, we've documented them.

500
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>We know they're real. So again, if it's just solely

501
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.839
<v Speaker 2>a North American primate we haven't caught up with, I

502
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 2>really believe we would have had one by now and

503
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:43.319
<v Speaker 2>just hasn't happened at least in my knowledge.

504
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Hasn't my other aspect to wondering of what this is,

505
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 3>because well, he has to have some sort of intelligence

506
00:29:53.839 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 3>if it's able to avoid detection somehow. Think about technology.

507
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:06.519
<v Speaker 3>Everything has a security camera these days, everyone has a

508
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:10.039
<v Speaker 3>phone in their pocket, Everyone has a trail cam out

509
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 3>there now looking for deer or whatever. And then ever,

510
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:17.400
<v Speaker 3>this is where I come back to it, and this

511
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:19.680
<v Speaker 3>is the excuses that get used. And I'm not saying

512
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:25.960
<v Speaker 3>they're wrong. I just sure it just sounds convenient. They

513
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:28.279
<v Speaker 3>know what cameras are, Okay, Well, how will they know

514
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Speaker 3>what a camera is? You know what I mean? Like,

515
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:33.839
<v Speaker 3>if they're just an animal, how do they know that

516
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:35.880
<v Speaker 3>this thing takes a photo of them and they don't

517
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:37.079
<v Speaker 3>want to be seen. How do they know the thing

518
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 3>in your pocket takes a photo? How do they know

519
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 3>the thing on the wall of a building it's video camera. Well,

520
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.440
<v Speaker 3>they see the infrared light, so they know how to

521
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:49.839
<v Speaker 3>avoid that. Well, how do they know what an infra

522
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:50.440
<v Speaker 3>red light is?

523
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 2>You know?

524
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. Like, so the part of being

525
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 3>just a flesh and blood animal doesn't add up to

526
00:30:58.079 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 3>me that way. If it is a flesh and blood

527
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 3>animal have to have some sort of intelligence.

528
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I'm gonna I'll tell you this. And this is

529
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.480
<v Speaker 2>a This is a gentleman that I've partnered up with

530
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:17.279
<v Speaker 2>who found me. He is I think I just mentioned

531
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>briefly mentioned he's he's a he's got a PhD in

532
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>chemistry and a bachelor's in chemistry engineering, and he's a believer.

533
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.759
<v Speaker 2>And he's done a lot of DNA sampling with class

534
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:37.079
<v Speaker 2>A accounts of where the creature stood, you know, water samples,

535
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.039
<v Speaker 2>things of that nature, and the DNA studies that he's done,

536
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and this is what he told me. He has found

537
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:50.160
<v Speaker 2>anomalost DNA, which makes sense because if anybody has gotten

538
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:56.599
<v Speaker 2>any type of DNA or alleged DNA, it typically comes back.

539
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.799
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying typically that it just happens all

540
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:03.240
<v Speaker 2>the time type of thing, but what I have read

541
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>is that it comes back as ape human and anomalist

542
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>DNA that they cannot match up against in the DNA

543
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 2>banks at all. There's nothing that matches up, right. He

544
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>told me that it is more human DNA than APE,

545
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot more human than DNA, sorry, a lot more

546
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>human DNA than APE. And then coupled with anomalist DNA

547
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.440
<v Speaker 2>that he cannot put up against in any you know

548
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 2>DNA bank, you know, with any animal or you know,

549
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:40.599
<v Speaker 2>any known creature out there. So when he said that Rod,

550
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 2>it's more human DNA than anything else, the lights went on,

551
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>right because I'm just like, that makes sense. Of course,

552
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>that's why they're so cunning and smart. That's why they're

553
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the masters of their domain, you know what I mean.

554
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 2>And so that kind of changed a little bit for me.

555
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:04.400
<v Speaker 2>So but again, could could that be wrong? It could be,

556
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.759
<v Speaker 2>But it makes sense though, it makes sense that there

557
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 2>are very stealthy I mean, if we're talking about a

558
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:17.839
<v Speaker 2>creature that possesses a little more human DNA than ape

559
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:20.400
<v Speaker 2>and of course the anomalous DNA, we have no idea

560
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>what it is. Maybe that maybe that part of it

561
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:29.359
<v Speaker 2>possesses the supernatural end of things, you know, Wow, like

562
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>we've got I can kind of understand why these things

563
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.359
<v Speaker 2>have gone undetected for a long time. The other part

564
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.440
<v Speaker 2>of it is I think that and and this is

565
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>just me. This is just and again I could be wrong,

566
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I could be right. I don't know. But for me,

567
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:50.240
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a lot of these creatures are coming

568
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:56.319
<v Speaker 2>up from underneath from underneath some some underground caverns and

569
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>cave systems and things like that. So, but you know,

570
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.519
<v Speaker 2>going back to your point, you know, if it's just

571
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.079
<v Speaker 2>a if it's just an animal, how does it know

572
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 2>that you know, you know, or what a camera is

573
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.440
<v Speaker 2>or or you know, or hey, somebody had this class

574
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.039
<v Speaker 2>a siding. They're face to facing this creature, and they

575
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:18.360
<v Speaker 2>pulled out the gun and they pointed this creature and

576
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.599
<v Speaker 2>this creature just went ballistic when it pointed this gun.

577
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 2>When the person pointed the gun at this creature, how

578
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>do they know that that was a gun? How do

579
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.239
<v Speaker 2>they know that that was something that was threatening to them?

580
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, my only thing would be that they've done

581
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 2>a really good job of observing us and kind of gathering,

582
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:41.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, information, you know about us and what we do.

583
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>And you know, maybe they don't know all of the

584
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 2>ins and outs of guns or cameras, but they kind

585
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>of have an understanding of what it is and they

586
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 2>stay away from it type of thing. So, but you know,

587
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 2>I always tell people, then again, I could be wrong.

588
00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

589
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 3>That is the one thing to say when it comes

590
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.679
<v Speaker 3>to these topics is I could be wrong, because no

591
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 3>one really knows exactly.

592
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell people this because I know because I am.

593
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I am on the wood structure end of things. My

594
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.000
<v Speaker 2>forte is the wood structure. I believe it's a viable

595
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.079
<v Speaker 2>piece of trace evidence. I believe that people discard it,

596
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:26.599
<v Speaker 2>they don't look at it. You know, the details of

597
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:31.280
<v Speaker 2>any crime scene are very important, no matter how minuscule

598
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 2>it is. Right, So why are we looking at just

599
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:41.360
<v Speaker 2>having these grand class A encounters when you know some

600
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>of the trace evidence might be stereering us right in

601
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.639
<v Speaker 2>the face. And we are too prideful and you know

602
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 2>about ourselves and our own agenda to discard this trace

603
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>evidence that's right there, you know, and understand or try to.

604
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we may not understand it, but you know, try

605
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:03.360
<v Speaker 2>to study it, you know, try to you know, make

606
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 2>sense of it. Right, And so you know, for me,

607
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a very important thing for the you know, as

608
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 2>far as the wood structure goes. But you know, I

609
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.880
<v Speaker 2>tell people, you could be right, you could be right,

610
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, leaving it open because you know, here again,

611
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:26.280
<v Speaker 2>like we've just talked about, nobody knows, not even the quote.

612
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.079
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not even gonna say experts because I shy

613
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:33.400
<v Speaker 2>away from that term. I don't need a label. I

614
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 2>don't need expert next to my name because I'm not

615
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>an expert. I'm nothing of the sort. I'm I'm a student.

616
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 2>That's what I consider myself. And so there's no experts

617
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 2>in the field. And I mean that that makes sense

618
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.079
<v Speaker 2>to me. But you know, I think we need to

619
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:55.760
<v Speaker 2>look at all points, all evidence presented. We need to

620
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:56.159
<v Speaker 2>look at it.

621
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Some people are too caught up in their own evidence,

622
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:05.360
<v Speaker 3>and by evidence, I think, I'm not saying that they

623
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:07.960
<v Speaker 3>have a definitive proof. I'm just thinking they've made their

624
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 3>opinion in their brain, sure, and they've collected what they

625
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 3>believe is their evidence, and you'll never convince them to

626
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.760
<v Speaker 3>come off of it, like you'll never open their minds

627
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 3>to the possibilities of other things, because they've already determined

628
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:25.599
<v Speaker 3>in their head what these things are. Absolutely everyone wants

629
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:27.679
<v Speaker 3>to be the first one to stamp it and say

630
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 3>this is it. I was right, and they want that

631
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 3>pat on the back.

632
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

633
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't go that route for anything, So I know

634
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.159
<v Speaker 3>there's people out there that do, and I think there's

635
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 3>that's why there's a lot of toxicity amongst these communities.

636
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 2>No, and you're absolutely right. And so here's what I'll

637
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.719
<v Speaker 2>tell you about that, you know, uh and and not

638
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and not everybody is out to you know, be quote

639
00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:59.800
<v Speaker 2>the one that's going to break it all open. There

640
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 2>are some people out there that will tell you know, yes,

641
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I've I am that person, and I tooot my otin horn,

642
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:11.000
<v Speaker 2>what do I What I will say is that some

643
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:13.960
<v Speaker 2>of these people that you see that are in that

644
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.400
<v Speaker 2>area of just going no, this is what it is.

645
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.119
<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you why. Because I've been a

646
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:24.320
<v Speaker 2>police officer for this long, I've been a blah blah

647
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.079
<v Speaker 2>blah or I have an education in this you the

648
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:32.199
<v Speaker 2>base it off of education. They based it off of uh,

649
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:36.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, uh uh you know, being an investigator in

650
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>the you know, as far as law enforcement or what

651
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:41.400
<v Speaker 2>have your military or whatever. And while those things are

652
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>not bad at all, they're not they're great. In fact,

653
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I wish, you know, I wanted to be a cop

654
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:48.519
<v Speaker 2>when I was younger, you know what I mean. So

655
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't I'm not saying that those things are bad,

656
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 2>but it seems to me that the narrative is based

657
00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:01.079
<v Speaker 2>off of something that they have done as a trade

658
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>or a career for a long time, so of course

659
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:08.119
<v Speaker 2>they're going to try and throw it into that category. Well,

660
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 2>based off of, you know, what I've done for a living,

661
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.840
<v Speaker 2>it has to be this because this is what I've

662
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:18.719
<v Speaker 2>done for a long time, and you know, I've always

663
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 2>been right in this area, so it's got to be this. Well,

664
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:26.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're talking about something that we don't have.

665
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:31.599
<v Speaker 2>We don't have a physical piece, at least at least

666
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the civilians don't have a physical piece or a body

667
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 2>to examine. You know, maybe maybe the the the powers

668
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.559
<v Speaker 2>that be, you know, the government or you know, quote

669
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 2>the men in Black have I believe they do, but

670
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>we don't. We don't know what these things are. So

671
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:53.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's still you know, the jury's out type

672
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>of thing. But you know, I've noticed that people that

673
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:57.880
<v Speaker 2>have that type of narrative that go, well, this is

674
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.239
<v Speaker 2>what it is, and it's and where I'm basing off

675
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 2>of a career that I have done. I've been an

676
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:09.400
<v Speaker 2>investigator or a detective for blah blah blah years and

677
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I know what I'm looking for and I know blah

678
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:14.480
<v Speaker 2>blah blah, and based off of my you know, expertise,

679
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:18.639
<v Speaker 2>this is what it is. Well, you could be wrong too.

680
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're you're a human just like anybody else,

681
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 2>and and you know, and so that's what I think.

682
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 2>That's what makes it so much I think fun and interesting,

683
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 2>but also frustrating in a way because you've got so

684
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.840
<v Speaker 2>many people out there that just God, there's there's so

685
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:40.159
<v Speaker 2>much there's so many feuds and backbiting and just I

686
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 2>mean back and forth. It's insane.

687
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:44.880
<v Speaker 3>There's too many cooks in the kitchen.

688
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Dude. Yes, absolutely, And I you know, I stay away

689
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.159
<v Speaker 2>from that, you know, but I'm the guy in the

690
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:56.199
<v Speaker 2>background going, hey, y'all want to look at some wood structures.

691
00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm the nerd in the back going, hey, man, like,

692
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>look at this TP over here, Like look, you know. So,

693
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:07.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, but that's what I've noticed with with some

694
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:12.079
<v Speaker 2>of the people that are quote, you know, that no

695
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.400
<v Speaker 2>know it all type of thing. And you know, I

696
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.960
<v Speaker 2>think pride definitely injects itself into that equation, which I

697
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 2>try to approach everything with the utmost humility. I know nothing,

698
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm just a knucklehead out there in the woods trying

699
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:29.840
<v Speaker 2>to make sense of this stuff.

700
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think that's the best way to go

701
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:38.719
<v Speaker 3>about business. Is to just you'd do your research and

702
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 3>you're just presenting what you find and you're not out

703
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 3>there telling people exactly what it is.

704
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, I can tell you what I what I

705
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 2>think it could be right, you know, if you want

706
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 2>to ask my honest opinion, you know I could. Yeah,

707
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I could tell you what I feel like these things

708
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:00.519
<v Speaker 2>could be. That doesn't make me right, And and nor

709
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:03.880
<v Speaker 2>do I tell anybody else that they're wrong and what

710
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:09.079
<v Speaker 2>they believe, you know, and what I really feel like

711
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.719
<v Speaker 2>I present is again, I believe what I present is

712
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 2>very viable trace evidence, and I believe that people do

713
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:20.360
<v Speaker 2>not pay attention to it enough. And I get a

714
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of flak for just saying that I believe these

715
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 2>creatures can travel into suburban areas. There's no way, you know,

716
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I get this all the time. There's no way that

717
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch could come into San Antonio. I'm like, really,

718
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:36.719
<v Speaker 2>you're speaking on behalf of a creature. You have no idea,

719
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:41.320
<v Speaker 2>you're speaking on behalf of that creature. Like you're telling me,

720
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:48.199
<v Speaker 2>like you know exactly what these things do. It doesn't

721
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 2>you can't. There's no way. But here's what I do present, Right,

722
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>If the habitat supports big game. If there is a creek,

723
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:01.079
<v Speaker 2>green belt, or even a river that has plenty of

724
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:07.039
<v Speaker 2>coverage with that big game going through in and out,

725
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.679
<v Speaker 2>you have to have safe passage in and out. You

726
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:14.280
<v Speaker 2>have a recipe for some cryptid activity. You absolutely do,

727
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.159
<v Speaker 2>because now you've got you could have a water source,

728
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:21.400
<v Speaker 2>you could have a highway, you know. And for me,

729
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.800
<v Speaker 2>in my area in San Antonio, we have what's called

730
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the Salato Creek. So the Salado Creek is a historical

731
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 2>creek and it runs literally from north outside the outskirts

732
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 2>of San Antonio all the way into the city into

733
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 2>the south side, obviously going north south all the way

734
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.639
<v Speaker 2>outside of the city into other little small towns. It

735
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:52.480
<v Speaker 2>is a highway and it's riddled with white tail deer, raccoons, possoms, squirrels,

736
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, all the usual suspects. We've got fox as well.

737
00:43:56.679 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 2>We've got ringtailed cats, which are very nocturnal, very rare.

738
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 2>But we've got all of these things that are that

739
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:08.079
<v Speaker 2>are that are in these creeks that are very prominent,

740
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.960
<v Speaker 2>that present safe passage in and out of the city.

741
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 2>And you know, why would that not be a cryptid highway,

742
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:20.840
<v Speaker 2>right But also what I add on to that is

743
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 2>this connected to these to that particular creek. There are

744
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:33.559
<v Speaker 2>numerous wilderness parks that are connected to these creeks. That's

745
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 2>where I find a lot of these wood structures. But

746
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:38.719
<v Speaker 2>I do go. I go in the places where people

747
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:41.840
<v Speaker 2>don't go, you know, in the in these big wilderness parks.

748
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.519
<v Speaker 2>So why is it that I'm able to look at

749
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.079
<v Speaker 2>all of these wilderness parks in my area that are

750
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:53.039
<v Speaker 2>connected to this creek and find all of this quote

751
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 2>trace evidence and the former of woods of these wood

752
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.519
<v Speaker 2>structure and I have found prints as well. Is it

753
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 2>just p bull going out there and just doing this

754
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.559
<v Speaker 2>stuff just to hoax you? Is it the boy Scouts?

755
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Is it homeless people? Is it bushcraft? You know, it's

756
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 2>just it's just very interesting. But you know, those are

757
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.639
<v Speaker 2>the things that I look at and I present and

758
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I get a lot of pushback on it, like there's

759
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:25.000
<v Speaker 2>no way, there's no way. Well, again, you're speaking on

760
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:28.239
<v Speaker 2>behalf of a species or a creature that you know

761
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.679
<v Speaker 2>nothing about. You're telling me that you know exactly the

762
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 2>characteristics and the habits of these creatures. You're telling me

763
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:39.320
<v Speaker 2>that no nobody can answer me that question. So you know,

764
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:43.119
<v Speaker 2>the jury's out, but I think what I present is

765
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.599
<v Speaker 2>very viable and I think it's very plausible that it

766
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:47.280
<v Speaker 2>can be you know.

767
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:51.599
<v Speaker 3>That way, I'm going to be out in the woods

768
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:57.360
<v Speaker 3>here for this documentary. Bily things for someone that comes

769
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:59.960
<v Speaker 3>across wood structures, like what should I be looking for?

770
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 2>So what you want to look for is did those

771
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:12.559
<v Speaker 2>pieces grow in that area? You know, is you know,

772
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:21.000
<v Speaker 2>look scan around the area that encompasses that wood structure. Right,

773
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:24.800
<v Speaker 2>did those pieces grow there? Number one? Were they ripped out?

774
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Number two? Do they have the root system attached to them?

775
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:33.800
<v Speaker 2>The other thing? Right? How tall are they? Notice that

776
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:36.320
<v Speaker 2>some of these pieces. Take a look at some of

777
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:40.559
<v Speaker 2>these pieces, they are torn limb from limb, totally naked

778
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.360
<v Speaker 2>until there's no limbs, it's just a straight or whatever,

779
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, angle this piece of what is going And

780
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.880
<v Speaker 2>then also look at the bark. A lot of times

781
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:56.599
<v Speaker 2>these bark are stripped completely off of these trees. Right.

782
00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.760
<v Speaker 2>How is it fashioned? Is it a teepee? Is it

783
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Speaker 2>an a frame? Is it a lean type of structure

784
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:06.920
<v Speaker 2>or is it what I call a wigwam where it

785
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 2>has kind of a maybe a flat top or a

786
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>dome shaped type of top to it and then look

787
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:18.519
<v Speaker 2>inside of it. Look inside of it. A lot of times,

788
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:21.360
<v Speaker 2>what I find inside some of these wood structures are

789
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:25.119
<v Speaker 2>a series of different types of rocks that are placed.

790
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Now I don't know what those rocks are placed there for,

791
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 2>but they're typically placed inside for whatever reason. Some of

792
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:38.119
<v Speaker 2>them have been maybe whittled down to maybe a sharp

793
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:41.079
<v Speaker 2>edge to use for I don't know what, but that's

794
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 2>something that I've found that has been consistent. The other

795
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.519
<v Speaker 2>part of it is that sometimes there are these what

796
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.679
<v Speaker 2>I call these fake fire pits that are close by,

797
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 2>if not in front of the wood structure itself. And

798
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 2>what I mean but fake fire pit is that some

799
00:47:56.599 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 2>of these things have a around circle of rocks and

800
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 2>then they'll put these pieces of wood like like it's

801
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:11.599
<v Speaker 2>kindling in the middle of these of these rock circles,

802
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:16.840
<v Speaker 2>like it was a like a fire, but yet nothing's

803
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 2>been burnt. There's no carbon nothing at all. There's you know,

804
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:25.440
<v Speaker 2>there's there's no matches around there, there's no lighters. You know,

805
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.639
<v Speaker 2>there's no beer cans, there's no you know, uh, anything

806
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.440
<v Speaker 2>that says like, hey, I'm a human, I was here

807
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:34.639
<v Speaker 2>camping type of thing, you know, so you have to

808
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:38.519
<v Speaker 2>look at all those elements. The main thing is look

809
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:41.800
<v Speaker 2>at the type of tree that this these wood structures

810
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:45.559
<v Speaker 2>were that this wood has been used for uh and

811
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and determined has it grown in this area? Is it

812
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.920
<v Speaker 2>is it from this area or is it from you know,

813
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:57.280
<v Speaker 2>uh uh an area you know that's uh maybe you

814
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 2>know miles away or a mile away or whatever type

815
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 2>of thing. So what I have found is that some

816
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:05.960
<v Speaker 2>of these pieces of wood that I find that are

817
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.639
<v Speaker 2>fashioned to you know, a tpee or whatever type of

818
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:13.119
<v Speaker 2>wood structure, they're torn limb from limb. The bark is

819
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.679
<v Speaker 2>torn off, the root system is still attached, meaning that

820
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:21.159
<v Speaker 2>something with great strength that's pulled this tree right out

821
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:25.480
<v Speaker 2>of the ground and drug it into this area to

822
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 2>make this type of wood structure. And did this tree

823
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:34.079
<v Speaker 2>grow here? And now I will tell you from my experience,

824
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.480
<v Speaker 2>nine times out of ten you'll find that the trees

825
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 2>have been pulled out if you look at them with

826
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.719
<v Speaker 2>the root system did not grow in that area. So

827
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:50.880
<v Speaker 2>something or someone with great strength drug this twelve foot

828
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:54.559
<v Speaker 2>tree that's eight inches around with the root system still

829
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:58.719
<v Speaker 2>attached to build this thing. And that's when you sit

830
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:02.719
<v Speaker 2>there and go, ah, this is this is weird? Who

831
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:06.159
<v Speaker 2>would do that? Right? So so then but but I

832
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:09.599
<v Speaker 2>have to debunk myself, right, I have to really debunk myself.

833
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I can't sit there and go, oh, yes, you know

834
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:14.320
<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch built this and this is it and blah

835
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:17.480
<v Speaker 2>blah blah whatever. No, I have to look at all

836
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:22.400
<v Speaker 2>of those points. Okay, have they have they been uh

837
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:26.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, pulled out of the ground, have they been torn? Did?

838
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Did did it? You know again? Did the did the

839
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:31.840
<v Speaker 2>tree grow there? Type of thing? All these things right,

840
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:34.719
<v Speaker 2>and then I have to determine whether if I think

841
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:36.960
<v Speaker 2>it's people or not. And the way I do that

842
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:41.760
<v Speaker 2>is this, if it's bushcraft, and and you've probably seen

843
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:45.840
<v Speaker 2>bushcraft done before or maybe you've seen the videos. Right,

844
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:50.440
<v Speaker 2>So if you know about bushcraft, you know that these

845
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:54.280
<v Speaker 2>pieces are going to be consistent in length and size

846
00:50:54.679 --> 00:51:01.000
<v Speaker 2>because there is an objective with these bushcraft uh altars,

847
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:03.800
<v Speaker 2>meaning that they are going to try and keep out

848
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:07.360
<v Speaker 2>the elements. They're trying to keep somebody warm, You're trying

849
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.480
<v Speaker 2>to keep somebody out of the rain, trying to keep

850
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:12.199
<v Speaker 2>somebody out of wind or the sun. Right when these

851
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 2>wood structures that I come up against, do none of

852
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:17.960
<v Speaker 2>those things. They don't keep out sunlight, they don't keep

853
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:21.880
<v Speaker 2>out rain, they don't keep up wind. Okay, now we've

854
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:25.119
<v Speaker 2>got something different that wasn't a human. Then you've got

855
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:29.239
<v Speaker 2>the homeless people theory, which crumbles every time because the

856
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 2>homeless people in my areas they've got tents, they've got tents.

857
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.679
<v Speaker 2>They don't they don't they don't go out and and

858
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 2>and pull out trees out of the ground and put

859
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:44.119
<v Speaker 2>them into tepee structures or wigwams or whatever. Right, Okay,

860
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:46.360
<v Speaker 2>so you've got that that's thrown out. Then you've got

861
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the boy scout theory. Well, it's boy scouts, right, Okay,

862
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I've been I've been keeping tabs in my areas for

863
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:57.679
<v Speaker 2>seven years, morning, noon, and evening, right, not always consistently,

864
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:02.679
<v Speaker 2>but for seven years. You would think within seven years

865
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I would have seen a boy scout or a troop,

866
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:11.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, making these things. Never happened, not a single person.

867
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:16.360
<v Speaker 2>So you know, if you keep tabs on the area

868
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:19.480
<v Speaker 2>over your period of time as consistent as you can,

869
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:23.079
<v Speaker 2>and you have not seen a person but the piece

870
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 2>of wood putting these things together, then you've got you've

871
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.480
<v Speaker 2>got a recipe for something that could be cryptid.

872
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:36.760
<v Speaker 3>My thought process when it comes to the structures other

873
00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:40.800
<v Speaker 3>than a shelter for people making them, or even if

874
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.840
<v Speaker 3>someone's trying to hoax it, really hoaxing it. For like,

875
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:49.440
<v Speaker 3>it's just random because I've seen the way trees have

876
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:51.440
<v Speaker 3>fallen down laying down the front, because I used to

877
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:53.199
<v Speaker 3>go disc golfing quite a bit when I've been out

878
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:57.039
<v Speaker 3>like some of the state parks or something, and I

879
00:52:57.079 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 3>never really thought anything of it other than that's weird.

880
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:04.199
<v Speaker 3>And I just kept going like, does that mean a

881
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:05.159
<v Speaker 3>sasquatch did it?

882
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 2>No? But yeah, exactly, yep.

883
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:10.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why people would do that. It just

884
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.559
<v Speaker 3>seemed random for someone to do that, And like until

885
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.880
<v Speaker 3>you actually start getting into bigfoot lore and everything else,

886
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:21.920
<v Speaker 3>knowing the average person is not going to think anything

887
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 3>about that other than they're not going to relate that

888
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:25.199
<v Speaker 3>to a big foot unless they've watched the show that

889
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:26.840
<v Speaker 3>said something about it being bigfoot.

890
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:31.760
<v Speaker 2>So if it's you got to think about this, Brandon.

891
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:35.079
<v Speaker 2>The percentage, the percentage of people that know about this

892
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:38.239
<v Speaker 2>stuff that is super low.

893
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:42.639
<v Speaker 3>It's miniscule, but the TV shows it's made it a

894
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:46.559
<v Speaker 3>little bit more popular, but it's still not enough to

895
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 3>where I think random people are just going out in

896
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:50.480
<v Speaker 3>the woods and making these things just for ships.

897
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.199
<v Speaker 2>And giggles exactly, exactly.

898
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:55.719
<v Speaker 3>For someone to maybe come across to and be like,

899
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 3>oh look at that. And then that's it, Like why

900
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:00.519
<v Speaker 3>WI your time?

901
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What exactly? And then you know I've gotten the

902
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:10.840
<v Speaker 2>whole Well it's teenagers, Rod, and I'm thinking, man, I'm

903
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:14.360
<v Speaker 2>a father of four teenagers. Okay, I've got one of

904
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:17.039
<v Speaker 2>the army, I've got a twenty year old, and then

905
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I've got you know, a fifteen and a nineteen year old. Okay,

906
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:24.559
<v Speaker 2>these kids are not going to get out their phones

907
00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:29.880
<v Speaker 2>and go out in the woods and put wood pieces together.

908
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:31.199
<v Speaker 2>There's no way.

909
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:34.199
<v Speaker 3>It's like pulling. It's pulling teeth to get kids don't

910
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:35.840
<v Speaker 3>want to go out and do anything at this point.

911
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely it is right. I grew up in the eighties

912
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:43.039
<v Speaker 2>and I was out in the woods whenever I could. Ben,

913
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I was just you know, now, I could see if

914
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:48.880
<v Speaker 2>we were in this conversation in the eighties and seventies, Okay,

915
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe right, I could say, yeah, you know what could be,

916
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:56.280
<v Speaker 2>But not now, there's no way. It just doesn't happen.

917
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:02.119
<v Speaker 3>I grew up in the eight nineties as far as

918
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:04.119
<v Speaker 3>like when I was out doing dumb shit with my

919
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:09.320
<v Speaker 3>buddies and late late nineties, early two thousands, when we

920
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:12.480
<v Speaker 3>were like senior in high school or whatever. So I

921
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.239
<v Speaker 3>could see going out because we did. We used to

922
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:16.480
<v Speaker 3>go out in the woods and we did made funny

923
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:20.639
<v Speaker 3>videos and stuff like that. But we never did anything

924
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:24.920
<v Speaker 3>like that, right, We didn't know of anything, what structures

925
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:27.280
<v Speaker 3>or anything like that. So how many times did I

926
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:29.920
<v Speaker 3>go did I encounter something out there that I've just

927
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:30.800
<v Speaker 3>never even thought of?

928
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Right? And I think chances are, growing up, if you

929
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:38.840
<v Speaker 2>had gone to Nashville Park, so we'll do as parks

930
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:42.440
<v Speaker 2>in your area, chances are you've walked right past these things,

931
00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:47.119
<v Speaker 2>never gave it a second thought, you know. And that's

932
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.800
<v Speaker 2>what I tell people. You've probably walked past these things

933
00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and never thought about it at all, never thought about it.

934
00:55:55.440 --> 00:56:00.360
<v Speaker 2>And so you know, I I that's when I come

935
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:03.480
<v Speaker 2>in and I go, you know, let's look at the

936
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.760
<v Speaker 2>lay of the land here, let's let's look at the topography. No,

937
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.400
<v Speaker 2>does it make sense for these creatures to come in

938
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:14.159
<v Speaker 2>and out of your area, you know? And so I'm

939
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:17.760
<v Speaker 2>of the mindset that these things can and have traveled

940
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:27.360
<v Speaker 2>through suburban areas given the right topography, the right landscape,

941
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 2>if you will. And you know, given the fact that

942
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:33.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, in these wilderness parks that I have in

943
00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:37.360
<v Speaker 2>my area, there's no hunting allowed. You can't go out

944
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:39.920
<v Speaker 2>and pop off a white tail over here. You can't

945
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:44.039
<v Speaker 2>go out and camp in these wilderness parks. You can't.

946
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:48.400
<v Speaker 2>So who or what is building these things in these

947
00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:52.440
<v Speaker 2>wilderness parks? And now why why are they all over

948
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the place. Is it one team of people running around

949
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:02.519
<v Speaker 2>just doing this stuff with incredible strength, you know? Or

950
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:05.280
<v Speaker 2>do we have a cryptid problem? You know? I tend

951
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:07.719
<v Speaker 2>to think that it's it's more of the crypt cryptied

952
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:11.519
<v Speaker 2>area than than people. You know that, And that's and

953
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:15.800
<v Speaker 2>that that's the argument I present. And you know, And

954
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:18.880
<v Speaker 2>could I be wrong on some of this stuff. I

955
00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:21.239
<v Speaker 2>could be. I could be, And I'm not gonna doubt it.

956
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:23.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna say they go no, no, it's definitely

957
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:26.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, a sasquatch or a dog man or whatever

958
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:28.559
<v Speaker 2>the heck it is. You know, it's out there doing this.

959
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't believe it like that, you know,

960
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:37.599
<v Speaker 2>But I do find it very very strange, very strange.

961
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:43.679
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I think for me, I'll tell you this.

962
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:49.039
<v Speaker 2>I have friends, you know that are cryptozoologists that are

963
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:54.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, they they they they put their content out

964
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's really cool and it's it's very well thought out.

965
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.960
<v Speaker 2>It's awesome, and it's like, wow, yeah, okay, I got you.

966
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:04.079
<v Speaker 2>I understand. But when I come along a guy like

967
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:06.440
<v Speaker 2>me comes along and says, hey, look, I want you

968
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:13.760
<v Speaker 2>to look at this, I get so much crap from

969
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:20.199
<v Speaker 2>people because again, my my whole thing is, you guys

970
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:23.360
<v Speaker 2>want to look at these you know, we want to

971
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.360
<v Speaker 2>focus on these class A sidings and you want to

972
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:29.679
<v Speaker 2>focus on this, which is nothing wrong with that, but

973
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:34.760
<v Speaker 2>let's be honest. Let's look at the the details of

974
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:39.079
<v Speaker 2>the scene here, you know. And not only that, if

975
00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:45.039
<v Speaker 2>you if you listen to any sasquatch uh podcasts uh

976
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:48.159
<v Speaker 2>with with with people that are having encounters with these creatures,

977
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:50.679
<v Speaker 2>some of them live in rural areas, some of them

978
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:53.559
<v Speaker 2>live by rivers, by creeks, you know, they lived out

979
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:57.199
<v Speaker 2>in the woods what have you. And they go, well, man,

980
00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I saw this weird looking wood structured thing that was

981
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:03.840
<v Speaker 2>in the woods on my property and I looked at

982
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:07.159
<v Speaker 2>it and WHOA, I just saw the creature like come

983
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:10.840
<v Speaker 2>out behind it or in the area of this anomalous

984
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:15.239
<v Speaker 2>wood structure. You know, these things are correlative, they really are.

985
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:18.559
<v Speaker 2>But you have to really listen, you have to really

986
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:22.440
<v Speaker 2>listen to some of these encounters to really grab this stuff,

987
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:25.639
<v Speaker 2>and you'll find that some of these people will will

988
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:28.719
<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you this, even watching I was just

989
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:32.400
<v Speaker 2>watching the last whole season of what did you call it?

990
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Expedition Bigfoot, and they're recapping a lot of the seasons.

991
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I think on maybe one of one of the episodes

992
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong, but some of the recaps were like, whoa,

993
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:46.519
<v Speaker 2>they found these tps, they found this, they found that. Now,

994
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:50.320
<v Speaker 2>granted they out they are out in the remote areas,

995
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I get it, but these things are being seen and

996
00:59:55.639 --> 01:00:00.760
<v Speaker 2>nobody's really looking at them as a viable piece of

997
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:04.320
<v Speaker 2>trace evidence, or at least from what I've seen, I know,

998
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:07.760
<v Speaker 2>most people aren't. You know, they disregarded as almost people

999
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:11.719
<v Speaker 2>boy scouts, bushcraft, you know, what have you type of things.

1000
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:15.400
<v Speaker 2>So but yeah, that's I mean, it's amazing.

1001
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:19.440
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting though, when someone comes across them and they're

1002
01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:21.800
<v Speaker 3>out in the middle of nowhere where people shouldn't even

1003
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:26.559
<v Speaker 3>be in the first place, like they're up. Nearest town

1004
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:31.360
<v Speaker 3>is fifty miles away, right Who is out building these

1005
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:32.880
<v Speaker 3>things for what purpose now?

1006
01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

1007
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:38.519
<v Speaker 3>Yep, I'm not saying that the ones that are around

1008
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 3>here are made by people, because just from my own

1009
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:49.519
<v Speaker 3>local area, I have a map sitting here I'm looking at.

1010
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:52.920
<v Speaker 3>This is part of the reason I'm doing a documentary

1011
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.199
<v Speaker 3>is because there's been so many weird sightings in this

1012
01:00:55.320 --> 01:01:00.400
<v Speaker 3>small area that I'm from. And there is a spot

1013
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:05.360
<v Speaker 3>right here that has had multiple different encounters with something.

1014
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:09.880
<v Speaker 3>And then if you follow this pathway about a mile

1015
01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:13.440
<v Speaker 3>and a half, it leads to a woods where someone

1016
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:16.159
<v Speaker 3>else has reported a bigfoot. And if you go down

1017
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:18.440
<v Speaker 3>the road about a mile there's been someone that saiden

1018
01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:22.920
<v Speaker 3>four years ago now a bigfoot walked in front of

1019
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:27.239
<v Speaker 3>their vehicle. There's a lot of sightings within like a

1020
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:33.599
<v Speaker 3>three mile three square mile radius. And again it's right

1021
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:39.719
<v Speaker 3>by rivers and it's a wooded area, So there's a

1022
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:43.639
<v Speaker 3>lot of strange stuff that happens around these areas.

1023
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And that's where I say pay attention to the

1024
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.599
<v Speaker 2>lay of the land. I live by a river, I

1025
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 2>live by a creek, I live by a greenway. These

1026
01:01:55.800 --> 01:02:02.280
<v Speaker 2>are all highways for these creatures because they present a

1027
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:05.679
<v Speaker 2>safe passage in and out. It presents kind of an

1028
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:10.760
<v Speaker 2>easy meal, right. It makes sense. It makes it. Think

1029
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.840
<v Speaker 2>about it this way. If you were somebody that was

1030
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 2>trying to get in and out of an area and

1031
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:19.599
<v Speaker 2>be and wanted to be undetected, and you've got this

1032
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:23.760
<v Speaker 2>nice creek that has a really you know, thick canopy,

1033
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:27.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know there's there's lots of resources at your

1034
01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:31.639
<v Speaker 2>disposal as far as like you know, uh, you know,

1035
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:36.760
<v Speaker 2>wildlife and plants and and and and water. You know

1036
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you're going to use that as a highway. You know

1037
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:42.119
<v Speaker 2>you're going to use that to your advantage. And if

1038
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:44.599
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be seen, man, I could hide

1039
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:48.679
<v Speaker 2>in the vegetation of this creek, I could hide, you know,

1040
01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:52.719
<v Speaker 2>in this area of this river or what have you.

1041
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:58.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, these things are are almost always seen in

1042
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:02.280
<v Speaker 2>close to people where people live off of these creeks,

1043
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:04.960
<v Speaker 2>rivers and green belts, And that that makes all the

1044
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.079
<v Speaker 2>sense to me, makes all the sense to me.

1045
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:14.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna throw a question at you here, h You

1046
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:17.840
<v Speaker 3>mentioned like the waterways and everything. If you think of

1047
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:19.920
<v Speaker 3>things and I don't want to call it the wo

1048
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:24.519
<v Speaker 3>side to it. But basically just level with me. If

1049
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:28.920
<v Speaker 3>sure in the paranormal field they consider water a conduit

1050
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.239
<v Speaker 3>of energy. Yes, they feed off of that. That's how

1051
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:35.920
<v Speaker 3>they grow their energy. It's something that influent like it

1052
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:40.800
<v Speaker 3>helps bring out the paranormal activity. I guess, like they

1053
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:43.480
<v Speaker 3>say that energy is because of the constant flow of

1054
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:49.239
<v Speaker 3>the water. It feeds the spirits or whatever. Mhm, what

1055
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:55.480
<v Speaker 3>if these creatures bigfoot, whatever they are, use that water

1056
01:03:55.599 --> 01:04:00.199
<v Speaker 3>as their source of energy to like it if they're

1057
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:02.880
<v Speaker 3>from a different if we're going on that whole loose,

1058
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:05.639
<v Speaker 3>I would if that's something that that they don't just

1059
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:09.599
<v Speaker 3>travel down like that is how they are morphed into

1060
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:11.840
<v Speaker 3>with the energy from the water systems.

1061
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Man, that's wow, Yeah, that's interesting. Uh that might be something. Yeah,

1062
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I I I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I can't say that

1063
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:35.960
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, far fetched because again a lot of

1064
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the some of these these these encounters that I've read

1065
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and heard about, you know, these things tend to have

1066
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:53.239
<v Speaker 2>some type of supernatural ability. Uh. Some say that these

1067
01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:56.480
<v Speaker 2>things are coming out of portals, and maybe that water

1068
01:04:57.599 --> 01:05:03.239
<v Speaker 2>poses as some type of a portal from here to

1069
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:07.920
<v Speaker 2>another dimension. If you will type of thing. So, yeah,

1070
01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:11.079
<v Speaker 2>that's something I've thought about that tied, but not to

1071
01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:16.559
<v Speaker 2>that depth, but I thought of something in that area. Yeah.

1072
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:19.760
<v Speaker 3>I just look at it like if a lot of

1073
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:22.679
<v Speaker 3>people are reporting and seeing these things around a water source,

1074
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:29.679
<v Speaker 3>and I understand obviously animals in general are normally around

1075
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:33.519
<v Speaker 3>water sources, but a lot of people claim that paranormal

1076
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:36.360
<v Speaker 3>activity is influenced from water sources too.

1077
01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:37.239
<v Speaker 2>M H.

1078
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:44.400
<v Speaker 3>So if these Bigfoot are a supernatural being, is it

1079
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:47.320
<v Speaker 3>possible that maybe the water sources is also part of

1080
01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:49.480
<v Speaker 3>what power is them to be here, like people encounter

1081
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:53.280
<v Speaker 3>a ghost. M maybe it's part of the bigfoot thing.

1082
01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I I Yeah, I would not doubt that at all.

1083
01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:07.199
<v Speaker 2>I've got So, so here's something interesting. We went out

1084
01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:12.360
<v Speaker 2>me and uh my my new friend, a friend of mine.

1085
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:14.840
<v Speaker 2>He's a I think I talked about him. He's a

1086
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 2>he's a chemical chemical engineer. He's he's got a PhD

1087
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:23.039
<v Speaker 2>in chemistry. He's a believer. He's somebody that has spoken

1088
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:28.519
<v Speaker 2>at you know, bigfoot conferences, published author really cool gentlemen.

1089
01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh made friends with them through a network of other

1090
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:37.360
<v Speaker 2>friends as well. And we went out to an area

1091
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:39.719
<v Speaker 2>that I took him to.

1092
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:40.719
<v Speaker 1>And.

1093
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:45.679
<v Speaker 2>I I thought, well, you know, hey, look let me

1094
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.880
<v Speaker 2>let me introduce you to this area as kind of

1095
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:52.239
<v Speaker 2>like kind of scratching the surface type of thing of

1096
01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:55.119
<v Speaker 2>one of the areas that I've documented for a long time.

1097
01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:58.360
<v Speaker 2>And then we'll go over to another part of town

1098
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:01.480
<v Speaker 2>where you know, I've I've documented this and this, this

1099
01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:03.519
<v Speaker 2>and so and so on and so on. Right, So

1100
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:07.440
<v Speaker 2>he went to this area. He has this frequency uh

1101
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:13.920
<v Speaker 2>machine that he's made himself. Uh. It's really cool. It's

1102
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:18.800
<v Speaker 2>it's it measures it. So what his thing is that

1103
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:23.199
<v Speaker 2>he says that we give off a frequency. Uh so

1104
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:26.320
<v Speaker 2>when you're alive, you give off a certain frequency. When

1105
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:29.800
<v Speaker 2>you're dead, your your body still gives off a frequency

1106
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.360
<v Speaker 2>as far as your bones and things of that nature. Right,

1107
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:38.480
<v Speaker 2>So this machine that he has can detect whether if

1108
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:42.159
<v Speaker 2>you're buried or kind of if you're alive, because it

1109
01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:46.559
<v Speaker 2>will give off a certain number in this frequency. Right,

1110
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:50.360
<v Speaker 2>and he could he could triangulate you know, where you

1111
01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:54.079
<v Speaker 2>know this person might be buried or hey, there you are,

1112
01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:56.719
<v Speaker 2>you're alive, I can I can find you with this

1113
01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:00.480
<v Speaker 2>meter type of thing. Anyway, it's kind of beyond me.

1114
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I wasn't really good in school, so I'm

1115
01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:08.559
<v Speaker 2>just I'm just kind of that guy. But anyway, we

1116
01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:14.360
<v Speaker 2>went out and we started we went out to went out.

1117
01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:16.800
<v Speaker 2>We went out a couple of weeks ago and I

1118
01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:19.279
<v Speaker 2>took him to this one spot and his meter was

1119
01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:21.760
<v Speaker 2>going off, like he was like, man, this is remarkable.

1120
01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen this. I've never heard this like type

1121
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:28.840
<v Speaker 2>of thing, which is really cool. And he said, you know,

1122
01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:32.239
<v Speaker 2>this could be something of maybe maybe it's a barrel

1123
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:36.039
<v Speaker 2>ground rod And I'm thinking, what really, And so we're

1124
01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:40.560
<v Speaker 2>looking at these piles of rocks that I've documented over

1125
01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:44.119
<v Speaker 2>the years in this particular area, and some of them

1126
01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:46.760
<v Speaker 2>will be moved into a pile, some of them will

1127
01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:50.439
<v Speaker 2>be moved into different shapes like a circle if you will,

1128
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:54.640
<v Speaker 2>right circles, these big rock circles. And you know, there

1129
01:08:54.720 --> 01:08:58.880
<v Speaker 2>was one area where there's this wood structure that kind

1130
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:03.039
<v Speaker 2>of covered up this this rock bed that was inside

1131
01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:06.199
<v Speaker 2>the wood structure, Like these rocks were placed in a

1132
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:11.000
<v Speaker 2>very strategic way and these pieces of wood covered it

1133
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:14.960
<v Speaker 2>up as if it was guarding something. So his theory

1134
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:18.319
<v Speaker 2>was this could be this could be a barrow ground.

1135
01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:22.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm like what he's like, now, it could be early

1136
01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:26.840
<v Speaker 2>settlers that were here, or it could be something else.

1137
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:29.720
<v Speaker 2>We don't know, So we weren't ruling out whether if

1138
01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:32.800
<v Speaker 2>it could be you know, people that had settled in

1139
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:36.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, this area early on and you know, they

1140
01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:38.520
<v Speaker 2>passed away and there buried here type of thing, or

1141
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:42.880
<v Speaker 2>it could be something else. Right, So we go into

1142
01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:48.600
<v Speaker 2>this area this morning and we dig and I didn't

1143
01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:50.800
<v Speaker 2>dig very We didn't dig very deep at all. It

1144
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:54.720
<v Speaker 2>was maybe like a foot and really nothing going on.

1145
01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:56.760
<v Speaker 2>And he said, hey, well wait a minute, let me

1146
01:09:56.880 --> 01:09:59.760
<v Speaker 2>go through with my meter again over the hole. This

1147
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:03.840
<v Speaker 2>if it picks up anything, because if we're close, it

1148
01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:07.079
<v Speaker 2>could pick up something, you know, because we're digging, we're

1149
01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:10.199
<v Speaker 2>getting closer, right, and it would pick it up. And

1150
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:12.439
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, it just didn't pick up over

1151
01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:15.640
<v Speaker 2>that hole. And I'm like, what the heck? And he's like, yeah,

1152
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:18.800
<v Speaker 2>this is strange. He's like, it's weird. Mind you. He's

1153
01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:23.439
<v Speaker 2>used this thing, this machine, and several different uh uh

1154
01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:27.600
<v Speaker 2>and a couple well, several different states and in different

1155
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:33.359
<v Speaker 2>areas where they found buried you know, people, things like that,

1156
01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:37.079
<v Speaker 2>and so he was like, this is really weird. I'm like, okay, cool.

1157
01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:41.560
<v Speaker 2>We came to determination that the rocks that were involved

1158
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:48.199
<v Speaker 2>in these areas gave off some type of magnetic or

1159
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:52.520
<v Speaker 2>some type of weird frequency. Now, these are just regular rocks.

1160
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:54.840
<v Speaker 2>You would look at him and go, well, there's nothing

1161
01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:58.520
<v Speaker 2>special about them. I don't see anything. But here we

1162
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:01.920
<v Speaker 2>are in this frequency thing is kind of going off

1163
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:05.399
<v Speaker 2>over these rocks. He's like, there's something with these rocks,

1164
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:10.239
<v Speaker 2>and like really, He's like, yeah, there's something very weird.

1165
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:14.640
<v Speaker 2>It's very strange with these rocks. And I'm like, okay,

1166
01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:18.760
<v Speaker 2>so he's going to analyze one of these rocks. But

1167
01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:22.119
<v Speaker 2>my point of telling you this is that some of

1168
01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:25.920
<v Speaker 2>these rocks that I've seen in this area were fashioned

1169
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:31.079
<v Speaker 2>into a big circle. And I've gone back to other

1170
01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:34.199
<v Speaker 2>accounts where people are talking about and maybe you know,

1171
01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:38.439
<v Speaker 2>these podcasters that I've talked to as well, some of

1172
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:41.960
<v Speaker 2>them have said, you know, maybe these are portals rod

1173
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:45.760
<v Speaker 2>these these these these rocks are made, uh, and they're

1174
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:49.359
<v Speaker 2>putting this this type of circle as portals to go

1175
01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:53.159
<v Speaker 2>in and out of other dimensions with these creatures. And

1176
01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:55.600
<v Speaker 2>when they're here their flesh and blood and they can go,

1177
01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:58.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, in and out to another world. So I

1178
01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:04.319
<v Speaker 2>found it very interesting that these these rocks gave off

1179
01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:09.000
<v Speaker 2>this type of weird, crazy frequency, and they had some

1180
01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:15.800
<v Speaker 2>type of magnetic field, a very strong magnetic field to them.

1181
01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:19.600
<v Speaker 2>It was very odd. So, you know, saying that water

1182
01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:25.399
<v Speaker 2>is a conductor absolutely hands down, But also too, there's

1183
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:30.079
<v Speaker 2>other elements out there that could contribute to these things

1184
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:33.359
<v Speaker 2>traveling in and out of other dimensions type of things.

1185
01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:38.359
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I don't put it past you know,

1186
01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:43.239
<v Speaker 2>these types of things utilizing whether if it's water or

1187
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:48.960
<v Speaker 2>rocks and things like that. So yeah, so to your point,

1188
01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, I'm kind of and also too, I'll

1189
01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:55.279
<v Speaker 2>tell you this. You've got an area called, you know,

1190
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:57.680
<v Speaker 2>the Land between the Lakes the LBL. Right, have you

1191
01:12:57.720 --> 01:12:58.520
<v Speaker 2>heard of the LBL?

1192
01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know about it.

1193
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So people feel like that area because of the

1194
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:09.800
<v Speaker 2>water and where it's at. Some people will say that's

1195
01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:14.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of a conductor, and that's contributing to some of

1196
01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:18.560
<v Speaker 2>the sightings of these dog men and and and you

1197
01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:22.199
<v Speaker 2>know sat squatch if you will, that are you know,

1198
01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:24.920
<v Speaker 2>that's why they're having these encounters, you know, because of

1199
01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:30.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, that whole water conductor thing as well. So

1200
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:34.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know, it's interesting though.

1201
01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:39.920
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of things that somehow are

1202
01:13:39.920 --> 01:13:42.960
<v Speaker 3>connected and it's just a matter of time before we

1203
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:45.319
<v Speaker 3>can piece more stuff together. But at the same time,

1204
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:47.800
<v Speaker 3>it's just us spitballing and throwing things at the wall

1205
01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:49.720
<v Speaker 3>and sea what sticks right now, because again, like we

1206
01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:51.680
<v Speaker 3>said many times, no one really knows and no.

1207
01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:56.239
<v Speaker 2>One has the answer. Yeah, you're right. I think you're right.

1208
01:13:57.359 --> 01:13:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, we've been going on for a little over an hour,

1209
01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:01.520
<v Speaker 3>so I figure we could get ready to wrap this

1210
01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:04.560
<v Speaker 3>one up. But before we do, I would like for

1211
01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:07.520
<v Speaker 3>you to let everyone know where they can find your

1212
01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:09.960
<v Speaker 3>information APT for your research group and everything.

1213
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So the main if you if you want

1214
01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:22.199
<v Speaker 2>to message me and you want to see a social

1215
01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:25.840
<v Speaker 2>media platform that's a lot more accessible in my eyes

1216
01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:31.119
<v Speaker 2>has been Instagram. So Instagram, Bear County Bigfoot, b e

1217
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:35.520
<v Speaker 2>x A R County Bigfoot, all one word. You can

1218
01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:38.399
<v Speaker 2>find me on Instagram. You can find me on TikTok

1219
01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:43.439
<v Speaker 2>same thing, Bear County Bigfoot. And then Facebook. I have

1220
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:49.760
<v Speaker 2>a private group, so you can you can request to

1221
01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:50.920
<v Speaker 2>be a part of the group and you have to

1222
01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:55.479
<v Speaker 2>answer just a couple of questions type of thing, and

1223
01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:59.960
<v Speaker 2>then I'll go in and I prove you basically say hey,

1224
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, don't be a jerk, and you know, do

1225
01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:05.119
<v Speaker 2>you believe you know, the typical.

1226
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:08.119
<v Speaker 3>Type, the typical to get on the group pages.

1227
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, right. But one thing you have to know about

1228
01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:14.079
<v Speaker 2>the Bearcady Bigfoot Facebook group is that it's private. And

1229
01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I keep it that way for a reason. I have

1230
01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:20.560
<v Speaker 2>a small amount of people. We're probably a little over

1231
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:27.479
<v Speaker 2>five hundred, and I kind of like it smaller only

1232
01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:30.840
<v Speaker 2>because and I hope nobody gets offended by this. I'm

1233
01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:35.119
<v Speaker 2>after quality and not quantity, you know what I mean.

1234
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:41.000
<v Speaker 2>So just because you're a believer, and you know, you

1235
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:43.439
<v Speaker 2>get in there and you just start rattling off all

1236
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:48.039
<v Speaker 2>kinds of crazy stuff, you know, I really try to

1237
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:53.039
<v Speaker 2>sift through and and and and vet people and and

1238
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:55.079
<v Speaker 2>and that's just me. That's just my prerogative. That's just

1239
01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:58.399
<v Speaker 2>the way I do things. Because you know, there's a

1240
01:15:58.399 --> 01:16:01.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of trolls out there, you know this, there's a

1241
01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:04.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of people out there that will say nasty things,

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<v Speaker 2>disrespectful things, and I try to shield my people from that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why I keep it small. But if if

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<v Speaker 2>you're that person that you know is open minded and

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to be disrespectful. Please, you know, be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of uh ask for approval and you know

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go through and check you out and stuff. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I also have another page, a group on Facebook that's

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<v Speaker 2>called South Texas Monster Hunters and that one's pretty you know,

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<v Speaker 2>open and lax. And then I have another page that's

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<v Speaker 2>going on five thousand members and that is big Foot

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<v Speaker 2>one oh one, So any of those you'll be able

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<v Speaker 2>to find me. I post my content on there those

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And then YouTube is also the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>bearcaty Bigfoot. So basically all platforms you could find me.

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram is how did the main one for me though,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know you can find me there.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome, all right, it's been a pleasure talking to you, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been an honor. I appreciate your time. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>If you'd like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tells,

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<v Speaker 3>remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at

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<v Speaker 3>gmail dot com or go to tenfoiltales dot com and

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<v Speaker 3>go to the contact section. Make sure to follow me

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<v Speaker 3>around on all the social media's and just remember truth

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<v Speaker 3>comes at a cost. Are you willing to pay the price.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard a story be laid last night about something

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<v Speaker 4>alert along a wood line, you foot, princh, strange lights

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<v Speaker 4>in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>They claim it's nothing, but I know they light.

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<v Speaker 4>It's easier last to laugh in my face. But something about.

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<v Speaker 2>This makes me say, what if it's great?

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<v Speaker 3>What if they knew?

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<v Speaker 4>What if the answers are coming from you, spending stores,

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<v Speaker 4>wasting minds time, hearing boy it says, is it all

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<v Speaker 4>in their minds? They can call me crazy, but I

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<v Speaker 4>just want some froom.

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's true?

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<v Speaker 3>What if it's real?

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's true? What it for? Worlds?

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<v Speaker 3>Not what we knew.

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<v Speaker 2>Till all the tales blend me a story that starts

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<v Speaker 2>where the logic gets What if it's real? What if

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<v Speaker 2>it's true? The answers are waiting, They're waiting for you.

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<v Speaker 1>They see if the dog man walking, or maybe am

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<v Speaker 1>Offman flights. I love the fairy giants hidden beneath the lies.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, it's just stories. It's all they blieve. Fairy

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<v Speaker 1>Tale is for the things we can't perceive. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep us blindly. They won't to break car wheel.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not buying it. I'm not swallowing another pill

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<v Speaker 2>for spent poison. The lines were made to what if

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<v Speaker 2>the truth could set us free?

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<v Speaker 4>The alien sugnals traveling through time, secret space chronograms are

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<v Speaker 4>racing their minds.

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<v Speaker 2>They call them crazy, but I just need some fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's true?

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<v Speaker 4>What if it's real?

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01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:29.600
<v Speaker 2>What if it's true?

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<v Speaker 4>What if the worlds not what we do? Tinfoil tells

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<v Speaker 4>bullieve me in a story that starts where the logic is,

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<v Speaker 4>what if it's real?

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<v Speaker 3>What if it's true?

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<v Speaker 2>The answers are waiting, They're weighing for you.

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<v Speaker 4>They they lie, we all be die. The signs are

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<v Speaker 4>there if you open your eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Aliens cricked, its demon's ghost, the dimples, those two.

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's me? Or what if it's true?

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<v Speaker 4>What if it's real?

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01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:09.560
<v Speaker 2>What if it's true?

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<v Speaker 4>What if the world's not what we do?

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<v Speaker 2>Tin Foil tells fully me a story.

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<v Speaker 4>That starts wear the lodges, And what if it's real?

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's true? The answers are waiting, They're waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all in our heads, it's all in our binders.

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<v Speaker 2>These voices can be silenced.

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<v Speaker 3>The truth must rise.

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<v Speaker 2>Simple tell it's pulling me true? What if it's reading?

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's true,