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<v Speaker 1>Yea RiPP you need advice so you don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>Shooter's gonna help come Ma Dix's The Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>No Tom Martino, Hey Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Three oh three seven one three talk three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five. We got a

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<v Speaker 4>lot to talk about today. As usual. That's what we do.

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<v Speaker 4>We talk, and we solve problems, and we answer questions

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<v Speaker 4>if you're gonna I've said this before, you take supplements, organics,

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<v Speaker 4>softening was like three or four grand. But both right

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<v Speaker 4>now thirty one ninety five. The best, dear, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>find anywhere. As I said, plumbers would charge more than

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<v Speaker 4>twelve grand. Waterpros dot net three oh three eight six

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<v Speaker 4>two five five five four. Let's go to the phones.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go to people who've been waiting the longest.

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<v Speaker 4>Right away, Katie. Let's just take Katie right now. Katie.

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<v Speaker 4>What and by the way, I do have a guest

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<v Speaker 4>with me. We'll talk about that. We also have some

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<v Speaker 4>follow ups that Mark started yesterday. And let's take Katie

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<v Speaker 4>right now, Katie, go ahead, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yes, I've listened to you since I was like

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<v Speaker 5>five years old, and oh I hated.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that puts a lot of pressure on me, Katie,

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<v Speaker 4>that puts a lot of pressure on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 5>I always wanted to play music, but I love you

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<v Speaker 5>and I trust you, and my friend wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>Me to call you. Huh, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Actually he said, who's the person in charge of the

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<v Speaker 5>radio station? I said, what are you talking about? He said,

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<v Speaker 5>the guy? The guy he talked about, And I said,

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Martine. Anyway, my friend, he's on hospice. He's not

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<v Speaker 5>doing too well and he wants to do the death

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<v Speaker 5>with dignity and he's at Denver Health right now and

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<v Speaker 5>nobody what is his condition, Katie, Well, he's on hospice.

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<v Speaker 5>He's in stage heart failure. And he was on a

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<v Speaker 5>morphine drip and everything like that. But he's gone real

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<v Speaker 5>downhill in the last two weeks. And yeah, he wants

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<v Speaker 5>to do death with dignity. And so he came to

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<v Speaker 5>Denver General and they seem to not really know what

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<v Speaker 5>he's talking about, and they want.

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<v Speaker 4>To try to put on is he on medicaid.

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<v Speaker 5>In Denver Health Medicaid? He thought he was on regular Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 5>but apparently it's Denver Health. I don't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 4>It means it's great coverage. Denver Health does a great

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<v Speaker 4>joke anyway.

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<v Speaker 6>So are you saying he wants to die pretty much?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, are they not listening to him?

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<v Speaker 5>There's no place for him. I have no place to

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<v Speaker 5>take him, and I have no medication for him, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm this caretaker, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I just right now though he's at Denver General right now, yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 4>And he is in hospice care within Denver General.

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<v Speaker 5>He was Denver Hospice, Yeah he was, but then he

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<v Speaker 5>had a stroke and a seizure.

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<v Speaker 4>And okay, God, now he's okay. So he was in

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<v Speaker 4>Denver Hospice then got transferred to General Denver General. Okay, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know where is he gonna go? Where's he

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go? Now?

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<v Speaker 5>I have a good question.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, wait, wait, who's talking? Is he is somebody on

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<v Speaker 4>the phone with you?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm on the phone with you, guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh sorry, that's my patient. Yeah, that's Clinton. He's the

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<v Speaker 5>one that needs to care.

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<v Speaker 4>That's Clinton. Clinton. You're on the phone right now? Clinton?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you You're at Denver General right now?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>They don't want to pick up put me anywhere?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, nobody can help him. No, I would sink he

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<v Speaker 5>wants by dignity, which.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, knew nothing about. Can he go back

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<v Speaker 4>to Denver Hospice?

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<v Speaker 5>No, No, won't take him back.

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<v Speaker 4>Why won't they take him back?

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<v Speaker 5>He called his arm Lietnam, and he called and they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>go to the emergency room be seen. He had a

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<v Speaker 5>stroke and a seizure in the emergency room. And now

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<v Speaker 5>they won't take him back and nobody will take him.

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<v Speaker 5>Was he actually anywhere?

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<v Speaker 10>Was he.

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<v Speaker 4>Was he actually in the place? Was he actually hostice?

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<v Speaker 9>I was on actual hospice.

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<v Speaker 5>He was on hospice. But yeah, he wasn't impatient just yet.

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<v Speaker 5>They gave him his medication and stuff like that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he wasn't impatient, but now nobody will take him. He

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<v Speaker 5>has no bed anywhere, he has no medications, and everybody says, well,

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<v Speaker 5>help will help, will help, and nobody will help. There's

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<v Speaker 5>nothing he wants to do. Death with dignity. Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 5>Denver General participates in and you got to have two

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<v Speaker 5>doctors sign off. And but yet even though he's here

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<v Speaker 5>and he's being seen, nobody seems to I see.

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<v Speaker 4>So what is the plan for him right now?

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<v Speaker 5>I have no plans. That's why I'm calling you.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're are you actually a healthcare worker, Katie?

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<v Speaker 5>No? No, I just I met him three months ago.

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<v Speaker 5>He has no friends or family or anything. And I

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<v Speaker 5>met him a couple of months ago, and I'm his caretaker,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>And how'd you how'd you meet him?

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<v Speaker 9>Meet?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh at a respect care. I was just seen at

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<v Speaker 5>a hospital. I had some medical conditions and uh so

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<v Speaker 5>I was in a respect care and he was in

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<v Speaker 5>a respect care and that's how we met. But he

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<v Speaker 5>was much better two months ago. And now he's gone

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<v Speaker 5>real downhill, real fast, and he's kind of bluffed all hope,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's a patient advocate. There's a patient advocate

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<v Speaker 4>at Denver General. Did you talk to the patient? Did

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<v Speaker 4>you talk to the patient advocate?

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<v Speaker 5>No? I guess I can call I thought a social

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<v Speaker 5>worker and a case manager?

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<v Speaker 4>And does he have a does he have a case manager?

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<v Speaker 5>Not particularly? No?

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<v Speaker 4>And when you said a case manager, who would you

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<v Speaker 4>talk to.

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<v Speaker 5>The earlier today a social worker called and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a couple of barriers he can't get in. He

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<v Speaker 5>can't get in, and.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple barriers where he can't get in where.

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<v Speaker 5>Anywhere? Any hospice, any bed, any anywhere? And I have

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<v Speaker 5>no place?

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<v Speaker 11>Do you have a medication?

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<v Speaker 4>And do you have you have the right to talk?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, excuse me you they talk to you about

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<v Speaker 4>it with hippa, right, they have no problem talking to you, right?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, I'm his power of attorney and caretaker. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I give you the number for the advocate? I

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<v Speaker 4>think wait a minute, never mind, wait wait, wait, hold on,

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<v Speaker 4>what's that? Hold on one second, I'm trying to find

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<v Speaker 4>the advocate themselves. I had it, but you need we

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<v Speaker 4>need to help. Have someone help you? Is Deputy doc

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<v Speaker 4>on today?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm sorry, I want to see if Tom and studio

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<v Speaker 12>I think your note doc, if.

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<v Speaker 4>She's got what I don't understand, they don't know. Yeah, hey, Doc,

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<v Speaker 4>do they have do they allow people to die? I

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<v Speaker 4>know this sounds weird. Do they allow people to take

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<v Speaker 4>a more fiend drip and die?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm not I'm not sure that euthanasia is still is

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<v Speaker 12>legitimate in Colorado?

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<v Speaker 4>But right now the other.

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<v Speaker 5>Day because he was so frustrated, But yes.

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<v Speaker 12>I think you're right on the first step is let's

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<v Speaker 12>talk to the You gotta call and talk specifically.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, let's have you called.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to call Denver Health and ask for the

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<v Speaker 4>patient advocate. Now Deputy doc will oversee this and get

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<v Speaker 4>Deputy Doc will give you steps to do and then

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<v Speaker 4>oh good, okay, Now Clinton, Clinton, are you still there?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Clinton, what do you want? What do you want to do?

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<v Speaker 4>I want to die, So you would like right now

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<v Speaker 4>to just pass away? And is that where you were

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<v Speaker 4>heading with Denver Hospice before this stroke?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>I already knew.

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<v Speaker 14>That I was a goner.

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<v Speaker 4>Where were you getting hospice at home or were you

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<v Speaker 4>actually at Denver Hospice?

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<v Speaker 14>I was at the respite home when I was on

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<v Speaker 14>when I was.

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<v Speaker 4>On hospice, Okay, that was. That's over you. You were

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<v Speaker 4>right in their facility.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I was not in the facility yet, I was.

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<v Speaker 4>You were at home. Helped me out? What home, Katie?

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<v Speaker 5>Where was he was at? It's what is it California

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<v Speaker 5>or South Street or something?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, in respite care? Okay? Where was he before that?

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<v Speaker 11>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>He's from Nebraska. He came out here for a heart

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<v Speaker 5>surgery and then they told him his heart was too

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<v Speaker 5>weak and it's at five percent and he was too

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<v Speaker 5>weak to help the heart surgery, so they canceled that

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<v Speaker 5>and they put him in a resk at home, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's where he was, and Denver Hostas was bringing him

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<v Speaker 5>nice for glycerine and more.

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<v Speaker 4>I get it, I get it. So they were keeping

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<v Speaker 4>him comfortable. But then he had the stroke and was

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<v Speaker 4>transferred to Denver. Yes, yes, and Denver Health they won't

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<v Speaker 4>take now, Denver Health says. Denver Health says, the immediate

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<v Speaker 4>danger is gone and now he needs to leave, but

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<v Speaker 4>there's nowhere to put him.

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<v Speaker 5>Pretty much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, hold on, hey, deputy doc. Yeah, let's make

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<v Speaker 4>some real let let's let's do some calls here. This

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<v Speaker 4>is a terrible situation, all right. You know what?

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<v Speaker 12>Text me the number for the patient advocate, and we'll

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<v Speaker 12>love it through a conversation with me, Katie and the advocate.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's the general number. Doc. Okay, they say they'll

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<v Speaker 4>transfer you. They don't, They don't. It's six. It's three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three six zero two twenty nine point fifteen six

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about. Hang in. Uh, we'll see what we

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three oh three seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>want to go to Hannah who was on yesterday? And

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<v Speaker 4>the way I understand it, Hannah, you deposited some money

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<v Speaker 4>or your or your stepfather did and it never showed

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<v Speaker 4>up in the account and you used a machine to

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<v Speaker 4>do it, right? Is that right? Or he did? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>your sixty eight year old stepfather.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I went to a bitcoin ATM.

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<v Speaker 4>He went, oh a bitco hold on. It was a

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<v Speaker 15>It was a bit a Beena bitcoin ATM. It was

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<v Speaker 15>located inside of a wine and spirit store.

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<v Speaker 4>Now what was the hold on? What was he deposited?

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<v Speaker 4>Was he buying forty two thousand dollars in bitcoin derivative?

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<v Speaker 15>He was not on? On two separate occasions, who have

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<v Speaker 15>instructed by someone who to be an employee of Wills

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<v Speaker 15>to secure them. And he took he went into the

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<v Speaker 15>put them into the ATM because that's where they would

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<v Speaker 4>So how did he get this phone call? Did he

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<v Speaker 15>He contacted? Initially he contacted Microsoft because he got to

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<v Speaker 15>pop up on his computer saying that Donald it was contaminated.

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<v Speaker 15>Then they have his information, so then they caught.

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<v Speaker 4>So then did they call him or did they email

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<v Speaker 4>them about going to a machine? It was over the phone,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he believed him, and so he took forty

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<v Speaker 15>He took twenty thousand on one day, twenty thousand on

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<v Speaker 15>a different day. The two thousand dollars was actually gift

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<v Speaker 15>cards that they asked him to purchase and provide.

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<v Speaker 4>It be And he never talked to you about it

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<v Speaker 4>or anything. He just went ahead and did it.

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<v Speaker 15>Did not, Yes, my mom is the one that actually

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<v Speaker 4>So he went to a store and this machine is

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<v Speaker 4>where you normally buy bitcoins? Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 15>Now? I have no idea what you do with the bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the name of the bitcoin machine?

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<v Speaker 15>It's Athena Bitcoin Athena.

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<v Speaker 4>It did.

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<v Speaker 15>And you know, I actually found a similar article and

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<v Speaker 15>I emailed it to the.

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<v Speaker 5>Email that you have.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, an elderly woman that happened to in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's happening all over the country. What's happening is

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<v Speaker 4>do you know about it? Dimitri?

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<v Speaker 14>Oh?

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, it's a super common scam.

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<v Speaker 10>People will implant to pop up on your computer claiming

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<v Speaker 10>that they're from Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 17>It's almost always from Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 10>And then they tell you that you have to deposit

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<v Speaker 10>money into some ATM machine and that's it.

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<v Speaker 17>That's the last thing you'll see of that money.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And then when you deposited into that machine, it

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<v Speaker 4>went to that other person's account.

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, I'm assuming so he said he was given a

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<v Speaker 15>QR code, a QR code to you. So my best

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<v Speaker 15>assumption is that it's deposited into whoever, whoever's account like

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<v Speaker 15>QR code least two.

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<v Speaker 18>Hey, Tom, Yes, sir, so I was at the liquor

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because Mark took the call and you went out

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<v Speaker 4>looked at it.

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<v Speaker 18>I did, And what did you find? Well, it looks

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<v Speaker 18>like a normal ATM. There's it says bitcoin and Athena

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<v Speaker 18>is the company that manages it. There's a when you

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<v Speaker 18>walk up to the screen, there's a it looks like

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<v Speaker 18>it's a red stop sign, and it goes through all

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<v Speaker 18>these disclosures about this is bitcoin, these transactions are non refundable.

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<v Speaker 4>And what does it talk about? Like what do you mean, like,

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<v Speaker 4>so is the machine for buying bitpoint? Yes it is,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the only So was he did he have to

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<v Speaker 4>put Like if you want to put money into their

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<v Speaker 4>doc I mean, excuse me a dollar. If you want

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<v Speaker 4>to put money into there, do you have to buy

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<v Speaker 4>something or does it just like if you just want

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<v Speaker 4>to deposit money, Hanna, was he given instructions on where

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<v Speaker 4>to deposit it? Like what to put in the How

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<v Speaker 4>does that work? Dollar? You just walk up? If you

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<v Speaker 4>just walked up with twenty grand one day and you

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<v Speaker 4>want to feed it into the machine, it must ask

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<v Speaker 18>Well, yeah, actually, I mean right, I mean it must

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<v Speaker 18>I'm like fifty bucks, but yeah, there's a slot.

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<v Speaker 17>Did you put your cash in?

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<v Speaker 4>But for what I mean when you shop at the store,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't wait a minute. When you shop at the store,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't pan that machine. What is the purpose of

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<v Speaker 4>that machine?

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<v Speaker 18>It's the purpose of the machine is for business owners

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<v Speaker 18>to track customers into their shop and looking at their website.

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<v Speaker 17>It sounds like.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but to attract him into their shop for the

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<v Speaker 4>purpose of what bitcoin?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, the consumer buys bitcoins, yes, through this athena service. Yes,

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<v Speaker 10>and then the consumer transfers that bitcoin to whoever has

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<v Speaker 10>scammed him out of that bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 4>But he did all of that how did he do that?

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't know what the hell he's doing. Do you know, Hannah,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you know what steps he took? Did they

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<v Speaker 4>give him instructions on what to do? You don't just

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<v Speaker 4>walk up to a machine, even if it's a scam

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<v Speaker 4>and start pumping twenty grand into it, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure you have to enter a pin or you have

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<v Speaker 4>to enter an account number. What's that?

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, he told me he had a QR code. He

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<v Speaker 15>may have had maybe a different number into imputation.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he did okay, then he had information and they

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<v Speaker 4>said go to this machine. They must have said go

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<v Speaker 4>to this machine and do this, this, and this.

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<v Speaker 15>That would be my guess. Yes, I Hannah, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Bad news is here. These are unregulated. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>know we should all be outrageding we are, but he,

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<v Speaker 4>in essence gave his money away. I know it's terrible,

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<v Speaker 4>but he gave his money away. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 4>who you go after.

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<v Speaker 10>And Tom, you know, at some point national law enforcement

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<v Speaker 10>has to look at Athena and services like that because

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<v Speaker 10>they're used on a regular basis to facilitate criminal transactions.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom.

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<v Speaker 17>I looked at their website.

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<v Speaker 18>There's probably one hundred and fifty of these Athena Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 18>ATMs around Denver, just Denver.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, they're a real company, but they're used by a

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<v Speaker 10>vast international criminal network.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, of course they are. We've heard of doutless cases

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<v Speaker 4>where people deposit money and they're screwed.

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<v Speaker 17>And they must know it.

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<v Speaker 10>They must consciously, in my opinion, operate this network in

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<v Speaker 10>part to support the criminal enterprises.

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<v Speaker 18>So what Even the business owner mentioned something about scam.

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<v Speaker 18>He was his foreign It was a little difficult to

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<v Speaker 18>understand his English. But I did catch scam and he

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<v Speaker 18>claims he didn't know much about the machine other than

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<v Speaker 18>oh he.

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<v Speaker 10>Knows they pay a rental to him for placing the

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<v Speaker 10>machine rental store.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it's not that guy's fault with the machine.

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<v Speaker 4>The machine is probably legit.

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<v Speaker 17>The machine is legit.

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<v Speaker 4>But why would people buy bitcoin there and not online

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<v Speaker 4>and transfer money by ach?

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<v Speaker 10>Well that you're talking about a relatively unsophisticated consumer who

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<v Speaker 10>sent forty grand to someone purporting to be for Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, you don't want to hear this, Hannah, But honest

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<v Speaker 4>to god, I mean, who have you contacted so far?

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<v Speaker 4>And doc? Do you think the consumer finance protection bro?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they'll do anything unless you unless they

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<v Speaker 4>can trace down these account numbers that he has. But

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<v Speaker 4>we need absolutely everything he entered into that machine. Can

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<v Speaker 4>you get it to us?

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<v Speaker 12>But Tom, the good and the bad of bitcoin is

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<v Speaker 12>that it's untraceable. So that's one of the big selling

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<v Speaker 12>points of bitcoin is that the government or anyone else

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<v Speaker 12>has no way to get into your bitcoin account.

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<v Speaker 13>And it's totally confidential. But if you lose the.

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<v Speaker 12>Address of your wallet or whoever else you identify your deposit,

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<v Speaker 12>it's anonymous, and that's the good and a band of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So he transferred it, but he must have been given

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<v Speaker 4>instructions how to transfer it. Therefore we will have that

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<v Speaker 4>track that trace right, Yeah, we'll have that part of it.

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<v Speaker 18>Does he have a receipt? Does your stepfather have a

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<v Speaker 18>receipt of the transaction?

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, he has a receipt, he has I believe, text messages,

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<v Speaker 15>there's things that he has.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, can you gather, Hannah? Can we can't gather that?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you gather all of it? The QR code, the

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<v Speaker 4>text messages, do screenshots, the receipt? Can you get us

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<v Speaker 4>at least that stuff?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes?

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<v Speaker 15>I can try, I Yes, I can try.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Okay, I mean try and let us know, because

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<v Speaker 4>if you can, there's nothing we can do. That's certainly

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<v Speaker 4>we can't do anything. But if we get that information,

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<v Speaker 4>at least maybe we go to the FBI or somebody

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<v Speaker 4>or start somewhere. I mean, it's wire fraud technically, Oh yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 10>Have to find out whom the law enforcement could even

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<v Speaker 10>charge with wire fraud?

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<v Speaker 16>Isn't it secret service whoever?

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<v Speaker 13>They're not gonna find West Camber being fraud and wirefraud.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but they're not going to be. But the whole

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of doesn't matter what it is. If we can't

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<v Speaker 4>trace it, it's Hannah Germ is the only one that

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<v Speaker 4>can trace it. You said he had a QR code.

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, that's what he told me. I mean we have

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<v Speaker 15>the Can I talk to him?

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<v Speaker 4>Can I speak to him?

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<v Speaker 15>There's a language barrier, so it'll be kind of difficult

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<v Speaker 15>for you to get their information out of him. So

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<v Speaker 15>I'm so.

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<v Speaker 4>How did they how did they convey to him? Did

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<v Speaker 4>they speak to him in his language his language?

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<v Speaker 15>No, they were speaking to him in English. But I

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<v Speaker 15>think he has grown to be self flustered by the

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<v Speaker 15>situation that he's he's not necessarily able to just communicate

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<v Speaker 15>clearly exactly what happened. So it's it's I can get

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<v Speaker 15>that information from him and see what else I can gather.

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<v Speaker 15>As far as evidence goes, I know he has he

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<v Speaker 15>has receiveds, he has text messages, he has paperwork that

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<v Speaker 15>seems to show deposits to the Federal Reserve. There's random

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<v Speaker 15>things that they have sent him to make him feel

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<v Speaker 15>like this was legit.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's just see what we can find out.

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<v Speaker 4>This is this sucks, This is terrible. This really is terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>So uh just hold on and dollar. You went to

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<v Speaker 4>the you went to the place, you saw the machine.

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<v Speaker 17>Can you grab a couple of pictures of it as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you grab can you grab this stuff from her,

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<v Speaker 4>all of this information. Let's just see if we can

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<v Speaker 4>make a trail here. Of course, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what we can do. Was this is like how

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<v Speaker 4>much of the money did he take out?

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<v Speaker 15>What was that?

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<v Speaker 4>How much money did he take out?

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<v Speaker 15>He took twenty thousand from one bank and twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Thousand I mean what I mean is what percentage of

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<v Speaker 4>his life?

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<v Speaker 16>That was their entire savings?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh God, does he understand that? I mean that he

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<v Speaker 4>might have lost it? Forever he does.

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<v Speaker 13>And have you have you contacted the FBI?

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<v Speaker 15>No, I I've contacted. I submitted police report with a

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<v Speaker 15>Royal TV. I submitted or report with the Federal Trade Commission.

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<v Speaker 15>I haven't contacted the FBI. I'm willing to.

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<v Speaker 13>Well if that.

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<v Speaker 12>Could be the only people that have jurisdiction, the police

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<v Speaker 12>department and the Federal Trade Commission are are not the

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<v Speaker 12>ones you should be contacting. And the FBI is the

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<v Speaker 12>one that that you need to get in touch with

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<v Speaker 12>and give them all the information.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, Wow, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>That that machine that Deputy Dollar went to see, that's

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<v Speaker 4>amazing to me. It's just amazing because there are so

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<v Speaker 4>many disclaimers on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Three o three seven to one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 4>information gathered. Let's see what we can find. This certainly

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<v Speaker 4>Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi,

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three all three seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>talk seven one three eight two five five. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 4>the show and let's uh continue here three all three

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five. Now Bernadette has

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<v Speaker 4>a problem with a flood in an apartment. Bernadette, what's

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<v Speaker 4>going on with you?

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<v Speaker 11>Hi?

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<v Speaker 7>We list at the Ironwood Apartment on Palm and Palma Park.

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<v Speaker 7>That's the name of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Apartment, Ironwood, Yes, Ironwood, at what part?

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<v Speaker 7>It's Ironwood Apartments A Parma Park.

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<v Speaker 9>That's the name of the complex.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, got it? Go ahead? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 9>Okay?

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<v Speaker 7>Two saturdays back, about five thirty, I'm sitting there reading

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<v Speaker 7>my Bible, just being quite, and I can hear some

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<v Speaker 7>noise going on in the hallway and I thought my

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<v Speaker 7>daughter was up, but it wasn't. And I got up

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<v Speaker 7>a loaf and I looked. I didn't see anything out

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<v Speaker 7>of the ordinary.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you is this in Colorado spring? Is this in

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<v Speaker 4>Colorado springs? Okay?

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<v Speaker 16>Go ahead, Colorado Springs.

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<v Speaker 7>So I looked at the toilet and I noticed the

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<v Speaker 7>level of the water was down, but nothing unusual. There

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<v Speaker 7>was still regular water, and you know. So I went

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<v Speaker 7>back and sit down in the living room again and

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<v Speaker 7>continue what I was doing, and I keep came blue

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<v Speaker 7>block every few years, and I'm thinking, yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>What is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 11>Got it?

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<v Speaker 17>Now?

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<v Speaker 9>Got up to use the bathroom. I tell her.

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<v Speaker 7>I explained to her what's going on, and she used

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<v Speaker 7>the bathroom and flushed it and nothing happened. We noticed

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<v Speaker 7>water was coming up in the tub and I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, why water be coming up.

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<v Speaker 7>I tried to plunge it and it started coming up higher.

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<v Speaker 7>The water was coming around the toilet space the water

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<v Speaker 7>was coming.

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<v Speaker 9>That's where the water was coming from.

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<v Speaker 4>And also the and also the tub. Right, Yes, it

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<v Speaker 4>came okay, so let's let's Bernadette, I it was a

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<v Speaker 4>sewer backup. So let's speed forward. Now you don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to give every detail. How bad did it get in

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<v Speaker 4>your apartment?

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<v Speaker 11>Bad?

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<v Speaker 7>We've not been there since Saturday. Everything got wet. Everything

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<v Speaker 7>that was on the floor, the bedroom's carpet need to

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<v Speaker 7>be ripped out, my son.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's dangerous. By the way, now this is a rent, right, yes, okay?

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<v Speaker 4>And did they come in the landlord come in or

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<v Speaker 4>the management company and clean it all up?

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<v Speaker 7>No, we had the water people that does like suck

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<v Speaker 7>up water, right, I don't know what you call them.

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<v Speaker 9>They came.

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<v Speaker 7>They were there about after ten then we left the

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<v Speaker 7>Golden fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but who hired them? Who hired them.

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<v Speaker 7>Bernadette, I guess management.

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<v Speaker 4>So when I asked if management did anything, you said no,

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<v Speaker 4>So they actually hired people to suck up the water.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, that's what they did.

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<v Speaker 7>But they never spoke to us. They never called and

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<v Speaker 7>said this is what's going to end. I just want

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<v Speaker 7>to let you know it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 9>Just our apartment.

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<v Speaker 7>There were eleven units that were affected with this, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>and this management had just taken over in September, and

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<v Speaker 7>they did not communicate that.

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<v Speaker 9>I haven't heard.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so you know in addition to sucking all that up,

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<v Speaker 4>they have to sanitize that. Now, did you have any

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<v Speaker 4>personal property ruined? Yes, shoes, pillows, I mean okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so what does this? By the way, Ironwood apartments no

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<v Speaker 4>matter where, they have terrible ratings, they have terrible ratings. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>here's what I need to know. Who have you been

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<v Speaker 4>talking to at Ironwood?

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<v Speaker 7>Nobody other than the assistant manager kind of he don't

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<v Speaker 7>even know what's happening. Rickie's asking him with somebody called

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<v Speaker 7>and say are higher up in the.

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<v Speaker 9>Man and say, look, we're sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Are they paying for are are you? Are you in

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<v Speaker 4>a hotel?

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<v Speaker 9>We're We're at.

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<v Speaker 7>The Smith's Hotel.

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<v Speaker 4>On Betty And is Ironwood? Is Ironwood paying for it?

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<v Speaker 9>No?

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<v Speaker 7>No, we are the ones that my son and I.

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<v Speaker 7>Between my son and I, we're paying the hotel and

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<v Speaker 7>we keep extending it.

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<v Speaker 9>Is because every time we go back to.

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<v Speaker 7>The apartment to see if there's any progress, those machines

567
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 7>that are sucking up the water has been running since Saturday,

568
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<v Speaker 7>two saturdays back.

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<v Speaker 9>It's been running.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know what's going to happen today. My son

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<v Speaker 7>and I were supposed to go over there and see

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<v Speaker 7>who we can talk to the finals, who's paying the

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00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 7>hotel there, who's paying the electric bill? And I had

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<v Speaker 7>said to my kids, do not pay the rent, but

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<v Speaker 7>they already paid it because it was no no hold on.

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on stday. Okay, before you tell them to first

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<v Speaker 4>of all, you said your kids, your kids pay the

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<v Speaker 4>rent for you.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>My son has a kid and he had a stroke.

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<v Speaker 7>In twenty two, I was in Florida.

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<v Speaker 9>I got a call and I had.

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<v Speaker 4>To come back to whose apartment is it? Bernadette? Whose

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<v Speaker 4>apartment is it?

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<v Speaker 7>Sheldon and Hannah?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so it's their apartment, it's not yours. Got it? Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So they're the ones that live there.

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<v Speaker 11>Not you.

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<v Speaker 9>Right right now, I'm on the leaf.

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<v Speaker 4>I got it.

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<v Speaker 9>Put me on the leaf because I'm with them.

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<v Speaker 7>But he's upstairs sleeping right now because he works.

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<v Speaker 9>Nice.

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<v Speaker 4>I get it.

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<v Speaker 7>My daughter works days, so nobody else is here to community.

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<v Speaker 4>I got it. I got it. Okay, listen, listen, we

597
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<v Speaker 4>need to have someone call them for you. This is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>What are the other eleven people? So eleven apartments are

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<v Speaker 4>now abandoned?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, okay, ten families.

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<v Speaker 9>One unit the units across.

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<v Speaker 7>From me was empty, and we found us from the

603
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<v Speaker 7>guys that that one was badly damaged.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, hold on, just hold on, Please hold on,

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<v Speaker 4>Deputy d you want to call over to Ironwood. We'll

606
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<v Speaker 4>be right back. Hey, Tom, go with a sure thing

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<v Speaker 4>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martine here three all three

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three talks seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 4>Does Bernadette have Renters insurance? Find that out. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>give this to Deputy Doc to work on. But now

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<v Speaker 4>excuse me, Deputy d but I wanted to ask you

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<v Speaker 4>something real quick. Bernadette. Do you have Renter's insurance?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, my kids do have renters Assurance?

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<v Speaker 4>And are is it covering the hotel?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

624
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<v Speaker 7>That's the first thing my son did. Is called Saturday

625
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<v Speaker 7>when this was happening.

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<v Speaker 4>What will will they cover this for your personal property?

627
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<v Speaker 7>I am assuming that. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>We haven't spoken to.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the Is the management company paying for the hotel?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>That's why I'm calling you.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, We'll we'll find out. Put her on hold,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll find out. Just let let's move on. I'm Tom Martino. Donna,

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<v Speaker 4>what's your comment on that bits coin scam? Do you

635
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<v Speaker 4>have a quick comment?

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<v Speaker 6>I do.

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<v Speaker 16>I actually unfortunately had a friend of that once through

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<v Speaker 16>the exact same thing. It was a little over fifty

639
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<v Speaker 16>thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Did he get his money back?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 11>No, she did not.

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<v Speaker 4>She did not.

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<v Speaker 16>They kept her on the No, they kept her on

645
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<v Speaker 16>the phone the entire time, in a heightened state of alert,

646
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<v Speaker 16>like it was an emergency and she had to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, hold on, hold on that go with

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<v Speaker 2>Come running astas as we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Shooter is gonna help.

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<v Speaker 2>Come man, this is.

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<v Speaker 4>The Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martine, Hello Tom Martino here

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<v Speaker 4>three all three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>eight two five five. I'm gonna go back to calls,

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<v Speaker 4>but first I need to uh talk to someone because

665
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 4>this has been killing me. This new documentary is online,

666
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:50.599
<v Speaker 4>by the way, issues me on the streaming, and it

667
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:53.320
<v Speaker 4>is about John Benet Ramsey, and it is about the

668
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:59.599
<v Speaker 4>I guess The new documentary, apparently, the documentarian said, had

669
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<v Speaker 4>nothing to do with John Ramsey requesting it. He did

670
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:06.440
<v Speaker 4>it on his own, and John Ramsey said, finally it's

671
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 4>probably going to be his vindication and or the family's vindication,

672
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.880
<v Speaker 4>and that what's going to happen is they're going to

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00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.280
<v Speaker 4>run that DNA probably that was found at the scene,

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00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 4>which matched no one in the household. And you know,

675
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.440
<v Speaker 4>this thing has been going on. How many years is

676
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:27.679
<v Speaker 4>it now? Is it thirty years yet? I mean so,

677
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 4>Peter Boyles, God did he cover this extensively when he

678
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.000
<v Speaker 4>was doing when when it was going on and on

679
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.760
<v Speaker 4>his show? And I wanted to bring Peter up because

680
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:42.320
<v Speaker 4>this this is an every morning newscast there and and

681
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:48.159
<v Speaker 4>John Ramsey has become the sweetheart of media and Peter

682
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know they say time heals all wounds

683
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.800
<v Speaker 4>and even people's.

684
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.159
<v Speaker 11>Past hens or wounds all.

685
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Now Peter is on the hotline and he's cutting in

686
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:07.760
<v Speaker 4>and out. That's not me, Shannon. So just so you know, anyway, Peter,

687
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.840
<v Speaker 4>here's what I want to know. Was there new new

688
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.039
<v Speaker 4>DNA back when you were talking? Did anyone know about

689
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 4>this new DNA? When did it come to light?

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00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 11>There is a substance that was found in this little

691
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:26.480
<v Speaker 11>girl's underwear. The boner PD went was far back to

692
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:31.719
<v Speaker 11>the factories inside of the people's Republic of China to

693
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:36.440
<v Speaker 11>try and sense where any of this comes from. First

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<v Speaker 11>of all, let me say this, and I say it

695
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<v Speaker 11>every time I end up having to come by the

696
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 11>way I got here. I'm at emic today. I'm find

697
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.519
<v Speaker 11>a new little pickup truck. And okay, got a guy,

698
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:48.679
<v Speaker 11>guy Tom Martin, with a good guy.

699
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, cool. Now, see Peter just worked himself into a discount.

700
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:53.679
<v Speaker 4>I think, Okay, go ahead, I think I did.

701
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<v Speaker 11>But I remember this and the jury in the end

702
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:04.840
<v Speaker 11>of it. Alex Hunter was the district attorney, and Alex

703
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.880
<v Speaker 11>Hunter chose not to We never knew one way or

704
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.400
<v Speaker 11>the other what to do with the outcome of the

705
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:13.800
<v Speaker 11>grand jury that they said no indictment. And I remember, well,

706
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 11>I'm standing in the Justice Department parking lot with Heeraldo Rivera,

707
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Speaker 11>and I was floored. And then we waited. A couple

708
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:29.199
<v Speaker 11>of years go by, and Charlie Brennan, Rocky Mount News reporter,

709
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 11>Charlie Brennan, gets a leak and the leak is from

710
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:37.840
<v Speaker 11>a grand juror, and the grand juror said to Charlie Brennan,

711
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:43.239
<v Speaker 11>we wanted to indict them both for the murder of

712
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 11>that little girl. So anything else that's been flipping around

713
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:52.800
<v Speaker 11>as anything else that's been manufactured by people like Paula

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00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.039
<v Speaker 11>Woodward or any of the other people who have been

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00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:58.599
<v Speaker 11>involved in this. I haven't seen it. Now, this is

716
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:02.480
<v Speaker 11>where I'm critical of myself because we're talking about a

717
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:05.559
<v Speaker 11>book I haven't read. But I know the people if

718
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:10.719
<v Speaker 11>they're involved in this, and there's some really, really really

719
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:16.559
<v Speaker 11>shaking people involved in this Ramsey's series. But remember this,

720
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:21.199
<v Speaker 11>everybody in the audience, everybody, and I would doubt seriously,

721
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<v Speaker 11>and I haven't seen this series, so I can't. I

722
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<v Speaker 11>can't bet it that no one said in that series

723
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:31.519
<v Speaker 11>the grand jury wanted to indict John and Patsy Ramsey

724
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 11>both for the murder of that little girl.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Peter, here's what I don't understand. The new DNA.

726
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:42.760
<v Speaker 4>John Ramsey says, if they run it through the directories,

727
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<v Speaker 4>the ancestries and all the stuff we have nowadays, they

728
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.400
<v Speaker 4>might be able to find someone was their DNA they

729
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:53.039
<v Speaker 4>could not identify. You said they went back to China.

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<v Speaker 4>What was their conclusion on that DNA.

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<v Speaker 11>Let me tell you something. Anything that comes out of

732
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:04.239
<v Speaker 11>John Ramsey's mouth. John Ramsey twice a year sheds his

733
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:10.559
<v Speaker 11>skin Mommy, anything that comes out of that man's mouth, Okay,

734
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.800
<v Speaker 11>dismiss it, just dismiss it a face value.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's what I don't understand. They never address either those

736
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.280
<v Speaker 4>those ransom notes that were found. I mean, even if

737
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 4>there was other DNA, why would the wife sit down

738
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<v Speaker 4>and practice some ransom notes.

739
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:32.000
<v Speaker 11>Of course she did, and of course the ransom note

740
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 11>is very clear if we so much and see, the

741
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:38.360
<v Speaker 11>cops will kill her. First thing Passy does calls the cops.

742
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:40.880
<v Speaker 11>First thing the cops do is pulling them in a

743
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:43.679
<v Speaker 11>black and white. Now, I got to know a lot

744
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 11>of murder squads, and we got to la a lot

745
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.199
<v Speaker 11>of FBI people. They have television repair trucks. They have

746
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:55.519
<v Speaker 11>you know, backup saint trucks that look like legitimate. These

747
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:57.360
<v Speaker 11>are what they drive to the house to go in.

748
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.280
<v Speaker 11>These were two black and whites. And remember this too,

749
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:05.400
<v Speaker 11>it's the holidays. So the young cops, the rookies, these

750
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.199
<v Speaker 11>are the youngest guys down the ladder. They don't control

751
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 11>the trump the crime scene. They you know, the Ramsey

752
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 11>start calling their friends. They have a woman who used

753
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:19.360
<v Speaker 11>to be a mall cop and she's in charge of

754
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 11>the in charge of the murder scene. I mean, Tom, please,

755
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 11>I mean I have spent years with this and you know,

756
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:33.039
<v Speaker 11>people ask why is it back? I don't know why

757
00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:35.880
<v Speaker 11>it's back. I think I know one of the people

758
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 11>that is behind why they bring it back. But it's

759
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:45.159
<v Speaker 11>a great sadness because they can talk people into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, did you see the entire documentary? I haven't seen

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00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:49.280
<v Speaker 4>it yet.

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<v Speaker 11>No, I told you. I just I'm doing what I

763
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:55.400
<v Speaker 11>get mad about. I am criticizing a book I haven't read.

764
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<v Speaker 11>I will not watch this. I received a phone call

765
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 11>from somebody who asked me to be in and I said, no,

766
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:07.440
<v Speaker 11>this is not a who done it? This case is dissolved.

767
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.280
<v Speaker 4>Why are you so convinced of it because of the

768
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.599
<v Speaker 4>grand jury leak that you heard through this guy?

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<v Speaker 11>No, Temmy, I lived this thing. We lived it together.

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<v Speaker 11>You were. I was doing mornings. I mean, there was

771
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 11>nothing about this case. And one time someone said to me,

772
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.440
<v Speaker 11>I think it was Roaldo. He said, Peter, what would

773
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.000
<v Speaker 11>you like to know? And I said, I'd like to

774
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:32.519
<v Speaker 11>know what Patsy Ramsey's dreams are about at night. I

775
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:36.079
<v Speaker 11>think the devil comes and dances in her dreams. Other

776
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 11>than that, I don't know what game John Ramsey plays,

777
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.559
<v Speaker 11>except he plays the well.

778
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.480
<v Speaker 4>He reserved about every year he comes out and resurfaces

779
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:45.800
<v Speaker 4>the thing.

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<v Speaker 11>I tell you what the grand jury member who spoke

781
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:57.199
<v Speaker 11>with Charlie Brennan said, we we collectively the grand jury

782
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:01.320
<v Speaker 11>wanted to indict them both for the murder of that

783
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 11>little girl. And I got a twenty dollars bet and

784
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:06.480
<v Speaker 11>I haven't seen the series. That does not appear in

785
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:07.039
<v Speaker 11>the series.

786
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:09.800
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, they're going to say, well, you don't know

787
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:11.639
<v Speaker 4>that to be true. That could be a rumor. Charlie

788
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 4>Brennan could have Brennon.

789
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:18.039
<v Speaker 11>Charlie Brennan is irreputable. Remember the book Perfect Murdered, Perfect Town.

790
00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:21.239
<v Speaker 11>Charlie was a co author of that book. Charlie worked

791
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 11>at the Rocky. Charlie's a hell of a reporter.

792
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm gonna I'm going to ask you something. And

793
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<v Speaker 4>then if they did want to indict, why wasn't Why

794
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:29.239
<v Speaker 4>why weren't they indicted?

795
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:32.920
<v Speaker 11>That's a question for Alex hunder is Uh.

796
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<v Speaker 4>I thought, if there was a vote against or foreign

797
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:40.960
<v Speaker 4>excuse me, a vote for indictment, does the DA have

798
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<v Speaker 4>the power not to do it? Of course you think so.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that I thought when you wu paneled

800
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 4>the grand jury, I didn't know a DA had that choice.

801
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<v Speaker 11>No, they had everybody, and they Tommy, they looked and

802
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.800
<v Speaker 11>they looked at evidence and spoke with people that even

803
00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:59.719
<v Speaker 11>as close as I got to this case, I never

804
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:04.039
<v Speaker 11>got to see. They saw everything everything.

805
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:10.960
<v Speaker 4>You know. It's just you don't call it a mystery.

806
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:12.760
<v Speaker 4>I call it a mystery, But you don't.

807
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 11>Call it a mystery, Tommy, don't call it a mystery.

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00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 4>It's not. And you think they're covering. You think they

809
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.519
<v Speaker 4>were covering for the sun. You think that one documentary

810
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:24.000
<v Speaker 4>had it right.

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00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:25.079
<v Speaker 17>I know.

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00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 11>I don't believe they were covering it for their son.

813
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:30.679
<v Speaker 11>I believe that she's a rager. I believe that she

814
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:37.320
<v Speaker 11>went downstairs. The striking weapon is the flashlights that they

815
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.199
<v Speaker 11>found on the counter. That the batteries have been wiped off.

816
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:43.760
<v Speaker 11>Somebody took that thing apart and wiped even the batteries

817
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:48.480
<v Speaker 11>off that night. The whole barrel the flashlight's been wiped clean,

818
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:50.800
<v Speaker 11>is sitting there next to a three and a half

819
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:55.599
<v Speaker 11>page ransom note of practice notes. No Burt Ramsey's who

820
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 11>he is. He had to play second fiddle to his sister,

821
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 11>but no, No, he's you know that people want to

822
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:10.079
<v Speaker 11>hang stuff on that kid. Yeah, I'm feel bad for

823
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 11>the kid.

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00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 4>Well, Peter, like I said, no one was as close

825
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.920
<v Speaker 4>to it as you were. But I'm just shocked that

826
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 4>you're not going to at least watch the documentary.

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00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.320
<v Speaker 11>No, I don't think so. I haven't watched the alan

828
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:24.320
<v Speaker 11>Berg movie either.

829
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.440
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't even aware that that one had come out yet.

830
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:32.400
<v Speaker 11>It's called The Order, and it's it's not even close.

831
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<v Speaker 4>So and Peter, Peter, speaking about alan Berg, you remember

832
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:43.760
<v Speaker 4>our lunches together and our conversations. I mean, you're right,

833
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.079
<v Speaker 4>most people have no clue what he was about.

834
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<v Speaker 11>Far better yet what happened. I'm in this idea of

835
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:55.679
<v Speaker 11>this semi retard FBI agent up an Idaho who really

836
00:46:55.679 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 11>gets on to Bob Matthews, Tommy. It never happened, Yeah,

837
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 11>it never happened.

838
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, the thing with the thing with Alan was

839
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:10.880
<v Speaker 4>just an ordinary I mean, it was a hate crime.

840
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.280
<v Speaker 4>They just wanted to it was, that's all it was.

841
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<v Speaker 11>And I mean there's no marking in the city, there's

842
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.840
<v Speaker 11>nothing for him. We finally got him into the Hall

843
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.760
<v Speaker 11>of Fame, but I mean there's we have Omar Jah.

844
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.880
<v Speaker 11>We have Dick Connor, we have Bruce Randolph, we have

845
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:30.280
<v Speaker 11>all these different different places rightfully so named after these

846
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 11>significant significant people. There's nothing that Mark Sallenberg, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And the funny thing I found with Alan and this

848
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:42.039
<v Speaker 4>is not a putdown, but a lot of the stuff

849
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 4>he did he didn't really care that much about. I mean,

850
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:47.360
<v Speaker 4>he was an entertainer.

851
00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:50.079
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like the.

852
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 11>Number two and number ten. That's exactly what he was.

853
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:57.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. In other words, he wasn't like the pundits of

854
00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.519
<v Speaker 4>today who are carrying the water for peace people or

855
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.800
<v Speaker 4>he didn't care. He did what it took to get

856
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.559
<v Speaker 4>a rise out of people. Did you get that right?

857
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean he didn't. He didn't have an agenda.

858
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:18.679
<v Speaker 11>I watched him for six years, my best friend for

859
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:21.599
<v Speaker 11>six years. He was a professional wrestler.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly Okay. It couldn't have been put better.

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<v Speaker 11>No, true, he was.

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<v Speaker 4>But today but today I don't get the impression today

863
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 4>that the talk show hosts. I believe that they are

864
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:39.480
<v Speaker 4>really sold out and are and have an agenda as

865
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:42.800
<v Speaker 4>opposed to going on saying how can I stir this

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00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:43.800
<v Speaker 4>crap up? Today?

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<v Speaker 11>It's over?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now, well, some some would argue that having a

869
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.239
<v Speaker 4>real agenda and a real passion is better than just

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00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:55.000
<v Speaker 4>being a showman.

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<v Speaker 11>You have to take that up with somebody else, because

872
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:01.840
<v Speaker 11>I my view of what we do for a living

873
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:02.840
<v Speaker 11>is quite different than that.

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00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 4>I know. I remember Peter, Peter listen man, I mean

875
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.079
<v Speaker 4>you and I talked about it. There is a blend

876
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:14.440
<v Speaker 4>of entertainment and information, there is a blend, but you

877
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:16.360
<v Speaker 4>what to do? What's that?

878
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 11>He knew how to make people mad. He knew how

879
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:22.159
<v Speaker 11>to get to the to the center of it. You know,

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00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 11>there's the reason, by the way that a lot of

881
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:28.440
<v Speaker 11>people didn't take on the Ramsey case was intricate. It

882
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:33.599
<v Speaker 11>took hard work, right there was I mean, Danny Kaplis,

883
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:38.079
<v Speaker 11>did you know there's very few people that wanted to

884
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:41.159
<v Speaker 11>go near it? And now suddenly with this I get

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00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:47.239
<v Speaker 11>two calls a day about this ridiculous Ramsey trilogy that's

886
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:50.159
<v Speaker 11>being shown on Netflix. Had to be a change in themselves.

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00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.679
<v Speaker 11>They really should be well.

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<v Speaker 4>Peter Boyles, thank you very much, a legend and my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi, Tom Martino, your

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<v Speaker 4>troubleshooter three oh three seven to one three talk seven

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<v Speaker 4>one three eight two five five Donna, did you have

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<v Speaker 4>anything more to say on that bitcoins scam? You?

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<v Speaker 1>You?

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<v Speaker 17>Uh?

904
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<v Speaker 4>You mentioned that you had a friend that lost fifty

905
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:55.239
<v Speaker 4>grand the same way.

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<v Speaker 13>Basically, that's correct.

907
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<v Speaker 16>The the caller basically kept her not basically kept her

908
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:05.159
<v Speaker 16>on the phone the entire time, told her she was

909
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:09.159
<v Speaker 16>not allowed to disclose what was going on because it

910
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:13.639
<v Speaker 16>might thwart the plan of the irs freezing all of

911
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:17.880
<v Speaker 16>her assets. Hatter liquidate a little over fifty thousand dollars

912
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.280
<v Speaker 16>in cash, she had to go to multiple different branches

913
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<v Speaker 16>of her bank to do so, and then proceeded to

914
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 16>send her to downtown Denver somewhere to a bitcoin machine

915
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 16>and see that machine the fund So.

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<v Speaker 5>It just was.

917
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:35.599
<v Speaker 4>Once.

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<v Speaker 16>Once it happened, she realized what had taken place and

919
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:39.920
<v Speaker 16>that she was scammed.

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00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.639
<v Speaker 4>Did any authorities make any attempt to do anything for her?

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<v Speaker 16>No, you can report it with the FBI, but it's

922
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:52.920
<v Speaker 16>the chances of the funds being recovered are so slimmed

923
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:59.440
<v Speaker 16>because it is bitcoin, and the the enmity behind it

924
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:03.559
<v Speaker 16>is so so large that they they couldn't track it down.

925
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.480
<v Speaker 4>God, that is so sad. Oh my god. Fifty thousand,

926
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:09.079
<v Speaker 4>fifty thousand.

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<v Speaker 16>And then they called back a few days later and said, well,

928
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 16>we've got your savings account safe, so now we need

929
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.159
<v Speaker 16>to work on getting your checking account safe.

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00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:23.480
<v Speaker 4>Well and during that time, but now when they called back,

931
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:26.920
<v Speaker 4>that was before they realized it was a scam, right.

932
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.079
<v Speaker 16>No, it was after So at that point she had

933
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 16>she she she.

934
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 4>They should have used they should have used the second

935
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.480
<v Speaker 4>call to find these people and lure them in. They

936
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:41.039
<v Speaker 4>should have worked with authorities, right.

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00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:43.519
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, it's always twenty twenty.

938
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<v Speaker 4>But so what did they just hang up on them

939
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:46.199
<v Speaker 4>the second time?

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00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:47.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

941
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<v Speaker 16>Well, when she started telling them that, how how basically

942
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.159
<v Speaker 16>much of a stumbad day were for depleting her savings account.

943
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.719
<v Speaker 16>The guy hung up, But you know, a very educated woman.

944
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:03.760
<v Speaker 16>They just I've in the financial industry and I've been

945
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:08.280
<v Speaker 16>to multiple seminars on fraud and detection, and it is

946
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:10.400
<v Speaker 16>one of the things that these scammers do is they

947
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:14.719
<v Speaker 16>get you in a heightened sense of emergency and that

948
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:17.440
<v Speaker 16>you have to act now and if you don't, you're

949
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:19.719
<v Speaker 16>going to lose everything. And they don't give you time

950
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:23.119
<v Speaker 16>to think. And that's the biggest thing. And so we

951
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:25.960
<v Speaker 16>always tell all of our clients hang up the phone

952
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:28.800
<v Speaker 16>and call a loved one and one at pass them

953
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:32.639
<v Speaker 16>first before anything, because that's just they just get you

954
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:35.440
<v Speaker 16>in a heightened sense and you are just following you

955
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:39.119
<v Speaker 16>you blindly follow their instructions and you don't have time

956
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:41.079
<v Speaker 16>to think about it. And that's that's where it gets

957
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:41.639
<v Speaker 16>a lot of people.

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00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:48.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, you're right, they get them scared, panicked. Thank you,

959
00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:51.559
<v Speaker 4>don I appreciate the information. This is terrible. I don't

960
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:54.920
<v Speaker 4>think she's going to be able to do anything either. Anyway.

961
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 4>I want to bring up a divorce attorney. I think

962
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:02.239
<v Speaker 4>he's retired now. He's a friend of Deputy d and

963
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:05.400
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate him coming up because we had a very

964
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 4>complicated case the other day. We've been trying to get

965
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 4>a hold of her because we wanted to give her

966
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:14.440
<v Speaker 4>this information. But I can relate it to her, but

967
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:16.400
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to recap her case. I wanted to even

968
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<v Speaker 4>ask if you've ever heard of such a thing, Paul Figlia, Paul,

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00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.320
<v Speaker 4>thank you very much. Paul. How many years did you practice?

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00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:29.039
<v Speaker 11>Twenty in mostly Jefferson, in Park County and also in Denver.

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<v Speaker 4>So you don't do divorce anymore?

972
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 11>I don't. I am happily married because I'm happily retired.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Now, I've never heard of a default judgment in

974
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:47.320
<v Speaker 4>a divorce where if you don't show up, the other

975
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:51.239
<v Speaker 4>party wins, no matter how ridiculous they might ask for things.

976
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:56.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean, this woman, Jessica claimed. She's in Illinois. She

977
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:58.559
<v Speaker 4>says she was an alcoholic kicked out of her house

978
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:03.519
<v Speaker 4>by her husband, and then he filed for divorce, but

979
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:06.400
<v Speaker 4>then he got a default judgment. Have you heard of

980
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:08.800
<v Speaker 4>a default judgment? She said she didn't show up because

981
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:10.880
<v Speaker 4>he threatened her. But I don't want to go back

982
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:12.719
<v Speaker 4>there because it was so long ago. There's nothing she

983
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.800
<v Speaker 4>can do about it in twenty fifteen. But have you

984
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:18.360
<v Speaker 4>heard first? That was my first question. Have you heard

985
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:19.719
<v Speaker 4>of a default judgment?

986
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:26.239
<v Speaker 11>No, Tom, and your instincts are right on. There really

987
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:29.519
<v Speaker 11>is no such thing as a default judgment in a

988
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:34.360
<v Speaker 11>family law matter. What generally happens if a client, or

989
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:38.920
<v Speaker 11>should say, okay, litigant does not show up is that

990
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:42.440
<v Speaker 11>the court will in her orders without regard to what

991
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:44.719
<v Speaker 11>evidence she may or may not have been able to

992
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:47.079
<v Speaker 11>put on, so on and so forth. But I would

993
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 11>stop short. Tom was saying that the court will basically

994
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:55.760
<v Speaker 11>grant anything, even to the ridiculous extreme, simply because the

995
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:58.599
<v Speaker 11>other party who did show up asked for it. In

996
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.000
<v Speaker 11>a situation where a litigan does not show up, the

997
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:04.400
<v Speaker 11>court acts as a gatekeeper for what it thinks is

998
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:08.360
<v Speaker 11>going to be a reasonable outcome. That's not to say

999
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.679
<v Speaker 11>that these non appearing party is not at a disadvantage.

1000
00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:16.440
<v Speaker 11>They in fact are a very distinct disadvantage. But the

1001
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:20.400
<v Speaker 11>court is not going to allow it. Just really nearly orders.

1002
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:28.280
<v Speaker 4>Okay, if you have a standing child visitation that she has.

1003
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:31.840
<v Speaker 4>She had problems, obviously, but the courts gave her visitation,

1004
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:38.320
<v Speaker 4>not custody, and the husband is withholding visitation, and he

1005
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:42.320
<v Speaker 4>claims and the guardian at Leidam says it's in the

1006
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:46.079
<v Speaker 4>best interest of the children. Can they just do that

1007
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:47.519
<v Speaker 4>without modifying the order?

1008
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:54.679
<v Speaker 11>Typically no, No. Let me just say this. If your

1009
00:56:54.760 --> 00:57:00.440
<v Speaker 11>given orders, as Dad was here, you don't have to

1010
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:05.320
<v Speaker 11>follow them to the t. The courts understand parties generally

1011
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:09.199
<v Speaker 11>in most cases will modify that by their own behavior

1012
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 11>and not necessarily formally. However, if there's a dispute, the

1013
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.920
<v Speaker 11>bottom line is the orders have to be followed, but

1014
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:22.880
<v Speaker 11>you can't, as Jessica seems to have done, just sit

1015
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:26.400
<v Speaker 11>on those rights without asking them to be enforced. So

1016
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:31.199
<v Speaker 11>here's the usual situation. One party denies the other party

1017
00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:34.079
<v Speaker 11>parenting time, which is what we have alleged here, and

1018
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:38.760
<v Speaker 11>the party who is aggrieved does nothing to enforce the

1019
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:41.280
<v Speaker 11>current order and just sort of sits on it. The

1020
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:45.719
<v Speaker 11>court calls it sitting on your rights, and in doing

1021
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.320
<v Speaker 11>so it becomes the I won't say the legal order

1022
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:52.320
<v Speaker 11>of the day, because what's written on paper is the

1023
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.840
<v Speaker 11>only thing that's enforceable, but it sort of becomes the

1024
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:58.840
<v Speaker 11>status quo, and the court is very happy to let

1025
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:02.480
<v Speaker 11>you do whatever you want to do because Honestly, judges

1026
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:04.599
<v Speaker 11>don't want to hear these cases. They grab to clear

1027
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:09.159
<v Speaker 11>their doctors on Okay, okay, that sounds like what's happened

1028
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:10.119
<v Speaker 11>here here.

1029
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:16.079
<v Speaker 4>It's yeah, I'm sure there's way more to it than

1030
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:20.800
<v Speaker 4>we're hearing. But if in fact they was not modified

1031
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:25.360
<v Speaker 4>and the ex husband is refusing visitation, what does she

1032
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:27.000
<v Speaker 4>do if she wants to enforce it?

1033
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and that's an excellent question that goes right to

1034
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:31.880
<v Speaker 11>the heart of it. First of all, let me let

1035
00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:35.320
<v Speaker 11>me talk about dad for a moment. If Dad wanted

1036
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:40.599
<v Speaker 11>to change the parenting time schedule or any allocation of

1037
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:45.519
<v Speaker 11>rental responsibilities here, whether it's parenting time or decision making,

1038
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:49.880
<v Speaker 11>it was incumbent upon him to seek that relief from

1039
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:53.480
<v Speaker 11>the court. The courts do not like people to self

1040
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:58.119
<v Speaker 11>help themselves in these situations, especially if there's a substantial

1041
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:02.199
<v Speaker 11>deviation from the court orders and what ex husband now wants.

1042
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:06.599
<v Speaker 11>So husband sort of not. He doesn't come into this

1043
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:10.320
<v Speaker 11>with clean hands either. Now to your question about what

1044
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:13.320
<v Speaker 11>she should be doing, I think what I would advise

1045
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:16.079
<v Speaker 11>my client in Colorado to do. And I'll let me

1046
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:18.280
<v Speaker 11>just give you the usual lawyer caveat.

1047
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.039
<v Speaker 4>It's not Illinois, got it, that's right.

1048
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:25.880
<v Speaker 11>I would be shocked if Illinois didn't follow most of

1049
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:28.800
<v Speaker 11>the general principles that we follow here in Colorado. But

1050
00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:34.280
<v Speaker 11>there may be some procedural differences that Jessica needs to

1051
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:36.440
<v Speaker 11>be aware of, and I'm sure she'll figure that out.

1052
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:40.119
<v Speaker 11>But what I would recommend to my clients sitting across

1053
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:43.519
<v Speaker 11>my desk to do in this situation is file a

1054
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:49.119
<v Speaker 11>motion to enforce parenting time or decision making or whatever

1055
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:51.800
<v Speaker 11>they call it in Illinois. Here in Colorado, we have

1056
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:56.519
<v Speaker 11>an umbrella term we call allocation of parental responsibilities, and

1057
00:59:56.639 --> 01:00:00.480
<v Speaker 11>under that umbrella are two main things. One is parenting

1058
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:03.840
<v Speaker 11>time and the other one is decision making. We no

1059
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:07.639
<v Speaker 11>longer use the word custody. That is an ancient word.

1060
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:11.639
<v Speaker 11>That's an ancient word from back in our day. Now,

1061
01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:14.599
<v Speaker 11>the term of the term of art is allocation of

1062
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:18.719
<v Speaker 11>permal responsibilities or APR for short. So she should file

1063
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:22.599
<v Speaker 11>emotion to enforce the orders as they currently are.

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01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:24.119
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

1065
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:27.800
<v Speaker 11>The likely outcome of that, and if I'm going if

1066
01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:29.280
<v Speaker 11>I'm skipping ahead too fast.

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01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:30.920
<v Speaker 4>On to now that's what I want. I want you

1068
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:31.480
<v Speaker 4>to go ahead.

1069
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:34.440
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, The likely outcome of that is the court's going

1070
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:37.400
<v Speaker 11>to review her motion, which is going to be very simple. Hey,

1071
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:39.679
<v Speaker 11>he hasn't followed it. These are the orders, they've never

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<v Speaker 11>been changed. He hasn't followed it. I want them followed. Uh,

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<v Speaker 11>that's it, very very bare bombs. What that does is

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<v Speaker 11>it requires him now to respond, and that's where you're

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<v Speaker 11>going to see all of his arguments why that modification

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<v Speaker 11>or I should say, why that enforcement is not in

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<v Speaker 11>the best interests of the children. He might say, well,

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01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:07.199
<v Speaker 11>she's drinking. Well she's not holding a job, Well she's

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<v Speaker 11>running in the house support. There'll be a litany of

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01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:14.239
<v Speaker 11>things in there, and procedurally here in Colorado, if you

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01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:17.880
<v Speaker 11>don't make all those objections on that response, you don't

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01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:19.920
<v Speaker 11>get to argue them in court. So this is an

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<v Speaker 11>excellent way of fleshing out what is going on in

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01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:26.559
<v Speaker 11>the case and what you can expect to have to

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01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:31.760
<v Speaker 11>deal with in the litigation scenario. So the likely outcome

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<v Speaker 11>of filing that motion is the judge is going to

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<v Speaker 11>look at what is the current situation of the parties,

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<v Speaker 11>what has changed since it made the orders, and is

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<v Speaker 11>enforcing the orders going to be in the best interest

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<v Speaker 11>of the kids, And that is the paramount, hallmark centerpiece

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<v Speaker 11>of the entire dilemma here, what is in the best

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<v Speaker 11>interest of the kids?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, but you don't get to decide that on

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<v Speaker 4>your own. That's the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 11>That's right, Yeah, that is the bottom line. However, the

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01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:08.719
<v Speaker 11>acquiescence of the party to something different really does serve

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<v Speaker 11>as a sort of de facto new paradigm.

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<v Speaker 4>In other words, right, it's right if she sits on

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01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:19.480
<v Speaker 4>her rights or if she doesn't do anything to enforce.

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<v Speaker 11>Them exactly exactly. Let me give you a quick example.

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<v Speaker 11>Parents are ordered fifty to fifty parenting time, fifty to

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<v Speaker 11>fifty decision making. They have to make the major decisions

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01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:34.440
<v Speaker 11>about the children jointly. Ten years go by. Ten years

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01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:38.320
<v Speaker 11>go by, and it's completely changed. Mom hasn't seen the

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01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:40.639
<v Speaker 11>kids maybe once or twice a week, has taken no

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01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:44.199
<v Speaker 11>part in decision making. And now as asking the court

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<v Speaker 11>to go back ten years and enforce the old orders

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01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:52.480
<v Speaker 11>which are now stale, the court is not going to

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01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:55.480
<v Speaker 11>do that. It's going to reassess the situation and order

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<v Speaker 11>a new set of orders that are more in line

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<v Speaker 11>with what's going on today.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I, that's that's the.

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<v Speaker 11>Way it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I gotta take this break. Here's here when I

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01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:14.440
<v Speaker 4>give her the message though, basically she needs to make

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01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:17.039
<v Speaker 4>a motion to have this enforced, is what you're saying,

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01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:18.800
<v Speaker 4>and then he has to fight it.

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<v Speaker 11>That's right, right, And Tom, I can't rush you. I've

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01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:25.719
<v Speaker 11>got a course hearing here on a on another matter

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<v Speaker 11>that I need to just sort of look in on.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 11>Can we can sing in this conversation?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely right? All right? Thank you for weighing in on this,

1124
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:36.480
<v Speaker 4>and we'll talk to her and I'll get back to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to take this break, and I'm Tom Martine

1126
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:45.599
<v Speaker 4>more coming right up. Go with a sure thing Denver's

1127
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:48.519
<v Speaker 4>best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a

1128
01:03:48.599 --> 01:03:55.079
<v Speaker 4>cent until you're content. Time for an insurance check up free,

1129
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:58.920
<v Speaker 4>no obligation. In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much

1130
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:02.239
<v Speaker 4>your coverage? Does of insurance companies? Find out now three

1131
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:04.559
<v Speaker 4>oh three seven to seven to one help. You'll think

1132
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:07.119
<v Speaker 4>you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand the

1133
01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:09.840
<v Speaker 4>real estate Man dot com to list your home with

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01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:21.559
<v Speaker 4>Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi,

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01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:26.320
<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino, you're a Troubleshooter three oh three seven one

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01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:29.199
<v Speaker 4>three Talk three oh three seven one three eight two

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<v Speaker 4>five five. All right now, Tom, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>What's going on with you? Tom?

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<v Speaker 11>Hey?

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<v Speaker 8>Tom? I got a throb with Pantasa Life Science as

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01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:43.599
<v Speaker 8>a first discovered them back when you had them on

1142
01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:46.880
<v Speaker 8>and I've been a faithful customer with them ever since,

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01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:48.559
<v Speaker 8>I mean for a very long time.

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01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they were a good company. I mean they they

1145
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:55.840
<v Speaker 4>came off the referral list and stopped advertising years ago

1146
01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 4>because they started making this product. As I rememb they

1147
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.639
<v Speaker 4>started making the product. Well the reason was we didn't

1148
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:08.519
<v Speaker 4>have a problem with them, but they started manufacturing under

1149
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:12.599
<v Speaker 4>other people's labels. I don't but I didn't realize did

1150
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:15.719
<v Speaker 4>they still keep them doing their own products? Yeah? I

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01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.519
<v Speaker 4>see on the website they do Panasalife dot com.

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01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:22.079
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and that's where I've just ordered it from. And

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01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:23.280
<v Speaker 8>again loyal customer.

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01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:26.000
<v Speaker 4>So I play on about.

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01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:29.599
<v Speaker 8>November tenth, eleventh, so I get an email back from them.

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01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:32.000
<v Speaker 11>That it's uh, this particular one.

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01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:33.679
<v Speaker 8>Was out of stock till the end of the month

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01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:38.039
<v Speaker 8>a pea. So I tried to call last Friday. Is

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01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:41.039
<v Speaker 8>their main number? The customer service you know how to contact.

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<v Speaker 11>You see on the website contact us there's a number, so.

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01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:47.199
<v Speaker 8>I called the number number. It goes into an endless

1162
01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:50.239
<v Speaker 8>You can't leave a message. It's just an endless loop.

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01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:53.840
<v Speaker 8>No matter what option, option one, option two, you can't

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01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:57.079
<v Speaker 8>leave a message. Message So you can also, it says

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01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.000
<v Speaker 8>on their contact us you can like send up a

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01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:02.960
<v Speaker 8>uh an email. You know, you put your name email

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01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:06.039
<v Speaker 8>and then what your problem is? Put put my question

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01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:10.679
<v Speaker 8>in there. Never heard back, so I got an email

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01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:13.159
<v Speaker 8>again back like I said that it was out of stock.

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01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:16.199
<v Speaker 8>So the sales lady or customer service lady that sent

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01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:19.480
<v Speaker 8>me the email, I tried to call her office number.

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01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:23.760
<v Speaker 8>Same thing just goes into an endless loop loop. Sent

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01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:29.239
<v Speaker 8>her an email, she never responded, and I just I

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01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:34.760
<v Speaker 8>don't know even on her email address she showed a

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01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:37.880
<v Speaker 8>mobile cell. You could call her mobile or call the office.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, So the bottom line, I don't need to

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01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:42.719
<v Speaker 4>know all the misery. You're just not getting the product

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01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:46.920
<v Speaker 4>you paid for. No, and I and oh, hold on,

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01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:50.039
<v Speaker 4>hold on, and I was it? Did you contest the

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01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:52.920
<v Speaker 4>charge on your credit card? No?

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01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:56.800
<v Speaker 8>Not yet, because again I've not hurt anything, and it's.

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01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:58.760
<v Speaker 4>Relative Well, I'll put in some calls. I don't know.

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01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:02.760
<v Speaker 4>I got to find my this. They've been so long off.

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01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:04.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I saw their contact. But what

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01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.599
<v Speaker 4>I can do is try to try it. I can

1186
01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:09.519
<v Speaker 4>try to get a hold of some of my contacts.

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01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:13.119
<v Speaker 4>According to the website, they're still there. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've not heard of anything going on with them.

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01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:19.920
<v Speaker 4>They have really good products. I mean I would definitely

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01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:23.480
<v Speaker 4>stop payment though, for sure, get your money back and

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01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:25.719
<v Speaker 4>then wait to hear from me. I got to figure

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01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:27.159
<v Speaker 4>out what's going on with them.

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01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:29.199
<v Speaker 11>Okay, yeah, I'll do that.

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01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:32.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I wouldn't listen. How much have you? How

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01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:33.280
<v Speaker 4>much did you pay?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>I think it was, uh maybe forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, normal much?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? Is it a standard? Do you have a standing

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01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:48.000
<v Speaker 4>account where you have a subscriptione like stuff coming to

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01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:48.920
<v Speaker 4>you automatically?

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01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:50.159
<v Speaker 2>No?

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01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:51.039
<v Speaker 11>I never did.

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01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:54.239
<v Speaker 8>In fact, good this order is what I just changed

1205
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:55.880
<v Speaker 8>to that reoccurring subscription.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well stop it. Go online and stop that reoccurring

1207
01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:02.119
<v Speaker 4>and then can't and then get your money back on

1208
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:04.800
<v Speaker 4>your credit card and then wait to hear from me again.

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01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:08.320
<v Speaker 4>I have heard no signs of trouble whatsoever, But who knows.

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01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:10.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I have no idea what's going on with them?

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01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:13.679
<v Speaker 4>Right now? You've called the eight hundred number. You've called

1212
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:17.000
<v Speaker 4>the eight hundred number, right, Oh yeah, you guys to

1213
01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:17.479
<v Speaker 4>try it too.

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01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:19.520
<v Speaker 8>It just goes into an analystloop. You press one to

1215
01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:20.279
<v Speaker 8>leave a message.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I get it. But but I mean, this is

1217
01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:26.039
<v Speaker 4>the first trouble you've had, so who knows? I mean

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01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:29.479
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's going on. I mean I'll find out.

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01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:35.119
<v Speaker 4>Oh wait, I do have I do have the owner's

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01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:38.840
<v Speaker 4>mobile phone so I can call during a break. All right,

1221
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:40.680
<v Speaker 4>why don't you hang on? I'm Tom Martinez. I got

1222
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:42.319
<v Speaker 4>to take a break right now. Three O three seven

1223
01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:46.279
<v Speaker 4>one three A two five five. Go with a sure

1224
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:49.800
<v Speaker 4>thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't

1225
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:55.399
<v Speaker 4>pay a cent until you're content. Wait time for an

1226
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:59.039
<v Speaker 4>insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison, call Compass

1227
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Insurance too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies

1228
01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:05.479
<v Speaker 4>find out now three all three seven seven to one help.

1229
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:08.279
<v Speaker 4>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

1230
01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:10.800
<v Speaker 4>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

1231
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.960
<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

1232
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:26.000
<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three all

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01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:29.520
<v Speaker 4>three seven one three talk seven one three eight two

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01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:35.039
<v Speaker 4>five five. So I'm going to be investigating the pantasy

1235
01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:38.199
<v Speaker 4>of life. But from what I can tell, from all indications,

1236
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:42.279
<v Speaker 4>there's a glitch. But it's not You're the only complaint

1237
01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:46.720
<v Speaker 4>we got. They're still in business, they're still manufacturing. Somebody

1238
01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:48.880
<v Speaker 4>on my YouTube feed. One of my morons one to

1239
01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:51.279
<v Speaker 4>know why they're not on the refer list anymore. They

1240
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:55.439
<v Speaker 4>really have they they did not they they decided to

1241
01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:57.479
<v Speaker 4>go more of the commercial route of white labeling for

1242
01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:01.039
<v Speaker 4>other people. Now they kept their way site up and stuff,

1243
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:03.279
<v Speaker 4>but they're not promoting the hell out of it. Then

1244
01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:05.560
<v Speaker 4>we had someone else who said they've kept They've been

1245
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:08.880
<v Speaker 4>ordering for the past four months from Panacea and they've

1246
01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:12.800
<v Speaker 4>had no troubles. I've had some text messages saying the same.

1247
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:15.800
<v Speaker 4>So we've never had a problem with the company at all,

1248
01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:21.960
<v Speaker 4>nothing at all. It's just that they have You're you're

1249
01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:24.560
<v Speaker 4>the only problem we heard. So Tom, I would like,

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01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:28.199
<v Speaker 4>I said, can test the charge? We will, we will. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll talk to who I thought was the owner. I

1252
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:34.319
<v Speaker 4>think she still is and I'll see what she says.

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01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:35.239
<v Speaker 4>Leslie is her name.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I have doctor Joel cheerdact with me, and by the way,

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01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:41.840
<v Speaker 4>I haven't gotten to him yet. I just wanted to

1257
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:44.760
<v Speaker 4>say he's coming up next hour and he wants to

1258
01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:49.399
<v Speaker 4>talk about hair restoration because they have a complete hair

1259
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:55.159
<v Speaker 4>restoration department with transplants with stem cells. And I had

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01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:57.159
<v Speaker 4>it done, not the transplant part, but I had it

1261
01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:59.720
<v Speaker 4>enhanced and it worked out really really well. We'll talk

1262
01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:03.119
<v Speaker 4>about that coming up and more, as well as weight

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01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:07.119
<v Speaker 4>loss compounded weight loss drugs for you at pennies on

1264
01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:09.680
<v Speaker 4>the dollar. I'm Tom Martinez. Stick around for more on

1265
01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:15.640
<v Speaker 4>the Troubleshooter Network. Go with a sure Thing Denver's Best

1266
01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:18.600
<v Speaker 4>roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent

1267
01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:24.880
<v Speaker 4>until you're content, wait time for an insurance checkup free,

1268
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:28.680
<v Speaker 4>no obligation. In comparison, call Compass insurance paying too much

1269
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:31.720
<v Speaker 4>your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now

1270
01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:34.079
<v Speaker 4>three all three, seven to seven to one help. You'll

1271
01:11:34.119 --> 01:11:36.840
<v Speaker 4>think you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand

1272
01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:39.319
<v Speaker 4>the real estate Man dot com to list your home

1273
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:42.680
<v Speaker 4>with Remax Alliance three oh three, nine, two zero, sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Rift News. You need advice who you don't have?

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<v Speaker 2>Run anxiousness as care.

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<v Speaker 3>The Shoot is gonna help.

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<v Speaker 4>Come Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martine, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three all three

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three talks seven one three, eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 4>Here to help you solve problems, to answer questions, to

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<v Speaker 4>take complaints, make your life a little easier. I have

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Joel Schirdac with me. He is with Denver Regen

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<v Speaker 4>dot com. A number of products we talk about from

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<v Speaker 4>time to time and things that I think you need

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<v Speaker 4>to know about. Now. I know that some people. First

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<v Speaker 4>of all, I want to talk about the weight loss aspect.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people have texted me saying, Tom, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think I might try this, but I want to do

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<v Speaker 4>it after the holidays. And I understand what people mean,

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<v Speaker 4>because traditionally people have waited till after the holidays to

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<v Speaker 4>diet or exercise or well, not necessary to exercise, but

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes to say, hey, I'm going to make the first

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<v Speaker 4>a new new beginning and all of that. And I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to explain something about the urzepetide in the Semiglue Tide,

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<v Speaker 4>and I wanted doctor Joels to chime in and just

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<v Speaker 4>keep in mind Denver Reagen dot com if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to order this stuff. But here's something that I think

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<v Speaker 4>people need to know. And I've talked to numerous people

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<v Speaker 4>who have done this, and as you know, Joel, I

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<v Speaker 4>tried it and you guys were stellar, and I bought it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a real customer. I was a real customer. Whatever

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<v Speaker 4>what I found was, there is absolutely no feeling of

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<v Speaker 4>deprivation whatsoever. You absolutely enjoy food exactly the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way you did.

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<v Speaker 4>You can eat what you want. You just simply take

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<v Speaker 4>way less to feel satisfied. That is the most amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It is not as if you are thinking, oh man,

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I could eat, or it makes you sick,

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<v Speaker 4>or you don't want or it's artificial in any way.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, many times dieting is artificial. Let me explain

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean by that. You eat less, but you

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<v Speaker 4>crave more. With this, you eat less and crave less.

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<v Speaker 4>That's correct. It's so it's not artificial. It's in line

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<v Speaker 4>with what you want.

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<v Speaker 19>So you agree with that, Yeah, Well, what it is

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<v Speaker 19>is it's the the U. It's a peptide compound. So

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<v Speaker 19>the drug itself is naturally occurring. And what it does

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<v Speaker 19>is it mimics your body's own chemical that tells your

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<v Speaker 19>brain that you're full.

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<v Speaker 4>Both semaglutide enters appetite.

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<v Speaker 19>Both of them work the same way, okay, And so

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<v Speaker 19>you feel.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you would if you ate and you were you

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<v Speaker 4>feel great. Okay. So when people say they want to wait,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't have to. In other words, you can go

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<v Speaker 4>through the holidays and have a wonderful time and partake

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<v Speaker 4>of food and and you know balanced and and and

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<v Speaker 4>and you're still gonna lose weight. You're without even thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about it. And then you to wait to put on

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<v Speaker 4>extra weight and then wait and then do it all

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<v Speaker 4>at once and then try to do some crash dieting

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<v Speaker 4>after the first to me, is stupid. This is the

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<v Speaker 4>kind I really I mean this. I've never felt stronger

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<v Speaker 4>about it. It helps, it helps level out blood sugars,

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<v Speaker 4>your a one c your appetite. It's actually healthy for you.

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<v Speaker 4>It is not a diet drug. It is a diabetes drug,

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<v Speaker 4>a blood sugar drug, and a digestive drug. So what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean by that is you've heard nightmares of idiots

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<v Speaker 4>who have not done it properly. You have done people

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<v Speaker 4>who have not done it through a doctor, have not

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<v Speaker 4>talked to people who have not eaten a balanced diet,

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<v Speaker 4>or have drink too much a liquor or no. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>serious when I hear all these nightmares. Now, the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>nightmare you hear about, the biggest nightmare is constipation. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest nightmare that anyone talks about it. They say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I got backed up. Now, if you're an

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<v Speaker 4>idiot and you do not drink water and you do

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<v Speaker 4>not monitor yourself, there is a possibility you can become dehydrated,

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<v Speaker 4>like you could at any time, and then constipation becomes

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<v Speaker 4>a more a bigger problem. It could be a blockage.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not talking about a surgical blockage where you

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<v Speaker 4>have to go to a doctor. But what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>is this a light herbal cleanse I've noticed on the

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<v Speaker 4>forums along the drinking water will overcome all of those problems.

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<v Speaker 4>Overcome them. They're not even an issue. And we're not

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<v Speaker 4>talking about a laxata. We're talking about just an herbal

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<v Speaker 4>cleanse every couple of days. And I don't mean like

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<v Speaker 4>a cleanse that you take for a colon Oskary. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just talking about one of these little you know, grass

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<v Speaker 4>tablets or whatever they call them. They're herbal cleanses. You

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<v Speaker 4>take one that night and it's just normal stuff, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying that the stuff really works. It absolutely works.

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<v Speaker 19>Yes, absolutely, And now you know, heading into the holidays

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<v Speaker 19>would be the best time to start for those thinking

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<v Speaker 19>about it, because what it's going to allow you to

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<v Speaker 19>do is to enjoy yourself during the holiday exactly normally

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<v Speaker 19>without putting on the weight.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not going to overeat. You're not going to. But

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<v Speaker 4>here's the important thing. A lot of people enjoy food,

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<v Speaker 4>and they almost think of this as they're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to enjoy food, and that is the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest misconception. You still enjoy everything exactly the same, you

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<v Speaker 4>just don't need as much. And I think what it

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<v Speaker 4>did for me and what it did for many people

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<v Speaker 4>I know, is it tell It shows you visually what

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<v Speaker 4>you truly do need and what you don't need, because

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<v Speaker 4>most people eat too much.

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<v Speaker 11>Right.

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<v Speaker 19>One of the biggest things that patients tell me when

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<v Speaker 19>they're reporting about the improvements that they made is they

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<v Speaker 19>tell me that they don't binge eat.

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<v Speaker 4>Anymore, that's right. And they're comfort eat.

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<v Speaker 19>Or you know, eat midnight snacks just out of habit,

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<v Speaker 19>that's right. So I don't hear anybody complaining. You know,

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<v Speaker 19>I used to enjoy food. Now I don't enjoy food anymore.

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<v Speaker 19>It's I don't you never hear that I don't mindlessly eat,

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<v Speaker 19>and I don't mind.

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<v Speaker 4>This ringe food we use many times as a comfort drug. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't mean you know what I mean. Now

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<v Speaker 4>here's what I also mean. You truly can eat faster

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<v Speaker 4>than your body can register it, so you're you're over

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<v Speaker 4>full and eat too much when really you haven't had

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<v Speaker 4>a chance to absorb the nutrients or the sugars. And

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<v Speaker 4>if and if we could all eat slower and wait

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<v Speaker 4>for our bodies to register what we eat, we would

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<v Speaker 4>eat less. But we don't. We don't. We're all in

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<v Speaker 4>a hurry. No one does it, No one does it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I can tell you to do it, you're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to do it. What I think the semiglutide

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<v Speaker 4>and tranzepetide do is they they take the absorption, they

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<v Speaker 4>they they register quickly. I don't know how they register

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<v Speaker 4>quickly that you don't need more food quickly and then

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<v Speaker 4>keep you satisfied longer. That's what it does.

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<v Speaker 19>If I had to sum it up that, I think

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<v Speaker 19>that's accurate. That's what people report that they experience now

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<v Speaker 19>that they just feel full faster now.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've also said this, the drug industries, the pharmaceutical

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<v Speaker 4>companies do not like that compounding pharmacies figure out in

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<v Speaker 4>a hurry that you don't need their brand name. This

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<v Speaker 4>is I don't know how that happened, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>usually there's patents and stuff. I don't know how this

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<v Speaker 4>happened that the compounding industry found out, Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>forget you, forget you, and forget you. I'm just going

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<v Speaker 4>to go right to the semaglutide or the truzeppetide and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to compound it, and then clinics like Denver

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<v Speaker 4>Regen are going to sell it. I mean, why did

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<v Speaker 4>that happen?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, I'll get into it and I'll try to make

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<v Speaker 19>it brief.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, why did that happen? Normally you can't do

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<v Speaker 4>that with drugs.

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<v Speaker 19>Originally, that happened because there was a shortage of these drugs.

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<v Speaker 19>Originally that happens there was a shortage of these drugs,

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<v Speaker 19>and so what happens is that when there's a shortage

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<v Speaker 19>of a necessary drug, the FDA suspends the patents on

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<v Speaker 19>those drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what.

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<v Speaker 19>Initially happened is sir zeppatite and some agleetide, you know,

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<v Speaker 19>ozempic and mogovi and those drugs were just in such

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<v Speaker 19>short supply because of demand the compounding pharmacies needed to

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<v Speaker 19>make up that. Okay, Now what's happened since is they're

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<v Speaker 19>starting to catch up with the demand.

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<v Speaker 4>But what they're not able to do.

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<v Speaker 19>Is provide these drugs in specific, personalized tailored dosages. They

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<v Speaker 19>only have standard dosages of certain amounts. So you know,

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<v Speaker 19>if you're somebody and we recommend for you that you

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<v Speaker 19>take a dosage that's not what their standard dosage is

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<v Speaker 19>for what govi or zempic, then you're allowed under FDA

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<v Speaker 19>rules to supply that medication under medical necessity another sem.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you still allowed to though, because they're no longer

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<v Speaker 4>in short supply right or are they we're still allowed

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<v Speaker 4>to We just have to Well, right now, they're still

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<v Speaker 4>in short supply.

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<v Speaker 19>Shortly, I believe they'll be coming off of this short supply.

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<v Speaker 4>When they come off the short supply, Will people still

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<v Speaker 4>be able to get your reduced price a compounded substances.

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<v Speaker 19>Yes, as long as there's a medical necessity and we

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<v Speaker 19>have to document that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's okay, your doctor did that anyway, and we

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<v Speaker 4>do that for all of our payer. Your doctor used

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<v Speaker 4>to call me when I was on this stuff once

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<v Speaker 4>a week to see exactly what I was doing and

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<v Speaker 4>if I needed it right, you know.

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<v Speaker 19>And a simple example of a medical necessity can be

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<v Speaker 19>something like those branded names have preservatives in them in

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<v Speaker 19>order to make their shelf life like a year. If

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<v Speaker 19>you are somebody who does not want to take a

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<v Speaker 19>drug that has preservatives in it, that's a medical necessity

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<v Speaker 19>to have a company.

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<v Speaker 4>Or what if your borderline diabetic can can't afford.

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<v Speaker 19>The other No, not being able to afford it is

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<v Speaker 19>not a medical necessity, okay, But most people would prefer

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<v Speaker 19>their drug not to have preservatives in it. That is

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<v Speaker 19>a medical necessity for a compounding without preserves.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just one example. But the fact that you need

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<v Speaker 4>it for blood sugar or for losing weight is not

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<v Speaker 4>a medical necessity. Or would they say, now you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to go to the brand and they would say, now

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<v Speaker 4>you need to go to the Oh, so it has

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<v Speaker 4>to be more than just your desire to lose weight.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to document a reason why. In other words,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to document why are you using the compounded

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<v Speaker 4>formula versus the brand name.

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<v Speaker 19>And one of those reasons can be as simple as

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<v Speaker 19>I don't want preservatives, right, I get it. Another one

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<v Speaker 19>can be that the standard dosage is supplied and the

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<v Speaker 19>branded names don't meet our doctor's recommendation for what how

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<v Speaker 19>many units I should be taking per week, which happens

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<v Speaker 19>all the time because we don't do a cookie cutter

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<v Speaker 19>treatment of every single patient. We give every patient direction

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<v Speaker 19>on how many units there's going to get you them.

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<v Speaker 4>I get that right then.

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<v Speaker 19>And there is a medical necessity because the branded drugs

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<v Speaker 19>don't come in those increments.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, I got to take a break, three of three,

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<v Speaker 4>three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi,

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter three oh three seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>talk three oh three seven one three two five five

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<v Speaker 4>or three h three Martino three oh three six two

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<v Speaker 4>seven eight four sixty six. All right, now, Deputy BO,

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<v Speaker 4>tell me what's happening. This goes way back, Sir, you

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<v Speaker 4>have a follow up BO, let's talk.

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<v Speaker 13>About Okay this if you'll recall that call.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh.

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<v Speaker 20>Hannah called in on October twenty ninth. She has the

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01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:08.880
<v Speaker 20>person that put in red Diesel diesel fuel into her car. Yes,

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01:25:09.479 --> 01:25:14.159
<v Speaker 20>so when she incurred about almost three thousand dollars damage

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01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:18.840
<v Speaker 20>to the engine, made several calls up to this Sinclair

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01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:23.720
<v Speaker 20>dealership up there on six forty US Highway two eighty five.

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<v Speaker 20>The general manager, Jessica, wanted to make things right with her,

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01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:32.159
<v Speaker 20>even though I think Hannah should have realized she was

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01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:35.520
<v Speaker 20>putting the wrong fuel in because this the pump was

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01:25:35.640 --> 01:25:40.000
<v Speaker 20>clearly separated from the other unleaded pumps and was clearly

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01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:42.880
<v Speaker 20>marked diesel fuel and it's red diesel.

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<v Speaker 4>But how did the nozzle did we ever reconcile?

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<v Speaker 11>How?

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01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:49.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there were photos of it.

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01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:51.520
<v Speaker 21>There were like two or three red handles and then

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01:25:52.399 --> 01:25:56.079
<v Speaker 21>then a green handle on the same pump and everything

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01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:57.520
<v Speaker 21>said diesel on it.

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01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:02.560
<v Speaker 20>Yeah, in the handle are actually smaller and it's designed

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<v Speaker 20>for farmers or agriculture.

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<v Speaker 4>So wait a minute, So you are telling me that

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01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:10.079
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't a bigger nozzle like everyone said.

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01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:14.119
<v Speaker 20>No, this nozzle, which this no, this small red nozzle,

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01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:16.760
<v Speaker 20>but it's clearly mark we're deaf might know it would.

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01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:21.000
<v Speaker 4>What you're saying is it absolutely would fit into a

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01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:21.760
<v Speaker 4>regular car.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, they admitted it.

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<v Speaker 20>Okay, Now, since then the Sinclair Station on up there

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01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:32.760
<v Speaker 20>and fair Play did upgrade the signage on the pump,

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01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:35.159
<v Speaker 20>and I think they did do something to the nozzles.

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01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:38.000
<v Speaker 20>They're in the future because they think they've had they've

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01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:41.279
<v Speaker 20>had other people do this, put this red diesel in

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01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:45.119
<v Speaker 20>their car. But they stepped up and the Sinclair Station

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01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:49.680
<v Speaker 20>paid for Hannah to get a new engine a twenty

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<v Speaker 20>nine dollars.

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01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:52.039
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no.

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01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:55.560
<v Speaker 20>Problems, no argument, They just said they we want to

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01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:56.359
<v Speaker 20>take care of it.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a good thing. That is very good. Okay,

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01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:06.840
<v Speaker 4>So tell me what does that mean, Like, what are

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01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:09.640
<v Speaker 4>they going to actually pay for?

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<v Speaker 13>Uh?

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<v Speaker 20>Well, Hannah, by putting this red diesel in her fuel,

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01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:17.840
<v Speaker 20>ruined her engine or caused at least three thousand dollars

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01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:21.760
<v Speaker 20>damaged to it. So Hannah got the engine repaired.

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01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:23.600
<v Speaker 4>They're not They're not paying for that art.

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01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:24.960
<v Speaker 17>Yes they are.

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01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:25.520
<v Speaker 4>You kidding me.

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01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:28.760
<v Speaker 20>They are paying for her to get a new engine.

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<v Speaker 4>I needed. I needed to get that dinger out, Okay,

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01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:33.640
<v Speaker 4>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 20>And I don't think they really needed to. It was

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01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:38.920
<v Speaker 20>clearly marked. It was a different I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 20>I don't know. I don't know why. Maybe it was

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01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:42.800
<v Speaker 20>late at night. Maybe she had a few beers. I

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01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:45.479
<v Speaker 20>don't know. I mean, I just don't know how she

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01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:48.760
<v Speaker 20>could have done it. But the nozzles did fit into

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01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:52.760
<v Speaker 20>her into her tank. But they stepped up and paid

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01:27:52.800 --> 01:27:58.600
<v Speaker 20>for her repair bill, no questions asked. Wow, I thought

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01:27:58.640 --> 01:28:02.239
<v Speaker 20>that was very good and people should patronize the DNS

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01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:04.279
<v Speaker 20>Sinclair station and fair play.

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01:28:04.359 --> 01:28:04.680
<v Speaker 12>I went.

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<v Speaker 20>I thought they went above and beyond the call of

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01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:09.880
<v Speaker 20>duty to help Pan out with the engine repair.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that is super duper pooper. Scoopa. Thank you so much, Nan,

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01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:16.640
<v Speaker 4>Do you have anything else?

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<v Speaker 20>I'm working on the the chat that called in the

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01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:25.720
<v Speaker 20>other day and the desertif gets out in Utah, he's

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01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:26.720
<v Speaker 20>having problems again.

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<v Speaker 4>That was that was a crazy one.

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<v Speaker 13>That is interesting.

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01:28:29.720 --> 01:28:33.000
<v Speaker 4>I called the mortuary and that's all he wants, is it, deseraday.

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01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:34.720
<v Speaker 4>But I told him to go to the county corner.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay.

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01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:36.880
<v Speaker 4>I did call the county corner.

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<v Speaker 21>And if I recall, his problem is that he paid

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01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:43.079
<v Speaker 21>it for it from the the the people, so that

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01:28:43.159 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 21>he wanted it from It doesn't matter if you can

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01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:46.600
<v Speaker 21>get it from the corner and it be it a

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01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:49.159
<v Speaker 21>lot easier that way, but he paid for it from them,

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01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:50.439
<v Speaker 21>so he wants it from them.

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01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:54.079
<v Speaker 13>Well, this is interesting. In Utah.

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01:28:54.199 --> 01:28:57.319
<v Speaker 20>I called the martuary, and I called the medical examiner.

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01:28:57.520 --> 01:28:59.840
<v Speaker 20>Apparently in Utah you have to have a valid Sourcis

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01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:03.760
<v Speaker 20>Security number on a desertific certificate. That's why it's being delayed.

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01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:06.920
<v Speaker 20>So I'm following up with the medical examiner as to

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01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:10.479
<v Speaker 20>why they need a Social Security number on a death certificate, Okay,

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01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:13.600
<v Speaker 20>because I think that's ridiculous. All right, so you're dead,

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01:29:13.640 --> 01:29:15.199
<v Speaker 20>you're not paying taxes anymore.

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<v Speaker 13>Of course receiving social Security. I'm working on that, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:26.640
<v Speaker 4>So here's the deal we got. We got a lot

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01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:28.680
<v Speaker 4>of people doing a lot of things for you. And

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01:29:30.079 --> 01:29:32.880
<v Speaker 4>if you need help or you want to know what's

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01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:35.520
<v Speaker 4>going on with the case and how we're following it up,

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01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:36.079
<v Speaker 4>let us know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me ask Deputy D you working on anything, brother?

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>So the most recent case is the one of Bernadette

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01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:47.039
<v Speaker 10>who's apartment got flooded out in a really gross way

1625
01:29:47.239 --> 01:29:48.319
<v Speaker 10>a couple of weeks ago.

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01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:51.840
<v Speaker 17>So I spoke with her and she is on her.

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01:29:51.720 --> 01:29:54.560
<v Speaker 10>Way over to meet with the apartment management right now,

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01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:59.239
<v Speaker 10>and with with a list of demands such as an

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01:29:59.239 --> 01:29:59.920
<v Speaker 10>alternative apart.

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01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:03.199
<v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, they got to sanitize and clean it,

1631
01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:06.000
<v Speaker 4>and they they oweer for her personal belongings to they

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01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:10.000
<v Speaker 4>did management at least respond though they sounded reasonable or what?

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01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:12.520
<v Speaker 10>No, she well, when she and I got off the phone,

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01:30:12.560 --> 01:30:14.680
<v Speaker 10>she was about to head over there because she hasn't

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01:30:14.720 --> 01:30:17.640
<v Speaker 10>had this conversation. So she's going to call me back

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01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:20.279
<v Speaker 10>and tell me how that went. Because there are three

1637
01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:24.560
<v Speaker 10>issues and she may need help on one between zero

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01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:26.720
<v Speaker 10>and three of them. So we'll have an update on

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01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:28.960
<v Speaker 10>that a little bit later this afternoon.

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01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:32.359
<v Speaker 17>But the one that's really weird is that electric bicycle.

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01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:36.239
<v Speaker 10>Remember a couple of days ago, this lady called because

1642
01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:39.479
<v Speaker 10>somebody made a fraudulent charge to her card bought a

1643
01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:43.159
<v Speaker 10>seven thousand yeah so, and they said it wasn't fraud

1644
01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:48.760
<v Speaker 10>Well her bank, Wells Fargo, said that I saw the

1645
01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:50.760
<v Speaker 10>letter that they sent her, and it was a very brief,

1646
01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:55.199
<v Speaker 10>curt letter, says our investor. I'm paraphrasing, but Wells Fargo

1647
01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:58.640
<v Speaker 10>determined through their so called investigation that this was not

1648
01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:02.960
<v Speaker 10>an unauthorized to charge. So now I'm following up with

1649
01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:05.479
<v Speaker 10>a Boulder police who has an open case on this matter.

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01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:08.680
<v Speaker 10>Not that I expect them to do anything useful, but

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01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:12.600
<v Speaker 10>I'm following up with a bicycle shopping Boulder itself, because

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01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:15.840
<v Speaker 10>it looks to me like they they should have been

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01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:17.600
<v Speaker 10>a little bit more careful. You know, when I buy

1654
01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:19.920
<v Speaker 10>stuff online to pick up at the store, I have

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01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:22.840
<v Speaker 10>to present an ID and the original.

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01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:23.600
<v Speaker 17>Card that I charged in too.

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01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:26.359
<v Speaker 10>And these people just handed over a seven thousand dollars

1658
01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:28.039
<v Speaker 10>product to a complete stranger.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, We got more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Three o three seven one three A two five five

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<v Speaker 4>insurance companies find out now three O three seven to

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<v Speaker 4>com to list your home with Remax Alliance. Three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi, Tom Martino,

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01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:18.079
<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the show. Three oh three seven one three

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01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:21.880
<v Speaker 4>talk seven one three eight two five five Phil wants

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01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:27.640
<v Speaker 4>to talk? Okay, Phil, what's happening with you? Phil? Hi?

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<v Speaker 14>Tom? Uh So, I got heard at work back at

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01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:38.840
<v Speaker 14>the beginning of August, reported it and a workman's com

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01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:47.520
<v Speaker 14>claim the uh workman's com my company's workmen's comp insurance.

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01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:49.840
<v Speaker 14>They denied the claim.

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<v Speaker 4>Way way way, way way Wait wait wait wait, how'd

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01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:53.680
<v Speaker 4>you get hurt? Let's go back?

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01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:56.560
<v Speaker 14>Oh, I work in a warehouse.

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01:32:57.119 --> 01:32:59.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I you know, we're.

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01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:04.039
<v Speaker 14>Really busy and filling boxes in that and I felt

1682
01:33:04.079 --> 01:33:08.079
<v Speaker 14>a little pain. It continued to get worse over the night.

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01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:10.920
<v Speaker 4>So this was lifting something.

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01:33:12.479 --> 01:33:16.159
<v Speaker 14>Lifting and moving fast and like there was no big

1685
01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:20.399
<v Speaker 14>there's no big owl moments where I could, you know,

1686
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:23.439
<v Speaker 14>say okay, this is when it happened. It just you know,

1687
01:33:23.560 --> 01:33:25.840
<v Speaker 14>started off uncomfortable and then just got worse and worse

1688
01:33:25.960 --> 01:33:26.960
<v Speaker 14>till it was unbearable.

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01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:31.079
<v Speaker 4>Got it now? So you reported it open to workers'

1690
01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:36.800
<v Speaker 4>comp claim? Did they send you to an ime an

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01:33:36.840 --> 01:33:39.199
<v Speaker 4>independent medical example? Did you go to a doctor?

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01:33:40.039 --> 01:33:45.039
<v Speaker 14>Yes, they sent me to Concentra. Okay, that was the

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01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:46.119
<v Speaker 14>company that they work with.

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01:33:46.159 --> 01:33:49.439
<v Speaker 4>I guess, okay, and what did they did?

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<v Speaker 14>So saw the doctor and then they sent me to

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<v Speaker 14>an imaging place and they found that it was an

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01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:00.319
<v Speaker 14>inguinal aren't you.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? Now? Did they say you had it before this?

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01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:12.159
<v Speaker 14>That's what that's what the insurance is trying to argue. Well,

1700
01:34:12.239 --> 01:34:15.199
<v Speaker 14>but no, the doctor, the doctor said that it yeah,

1701
01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:18.159
<v Speaker 14>that it looks like it was a work related.

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01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:23.319
<v Speaker 4>Wait the actual doctor said there the doctor they sent

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01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:23.640
<v Speaker 4>you to.

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01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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01:34:25.760 --> 01:34:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Really and usually the okay, And so the insurance says,

1706
01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:34.039
<v Speaker 4>we don't care what our own doc says. We're denying it.

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01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:35.840
<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:37.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when did they deny it.

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01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:44.319
<v Speaker 14>Uh, it was about two weeks after the incident.

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01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:47.640
<v Speaker 4>So the and they're claiming it was they're claiming it

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01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:48.520
<v Speaker 4>was pre existing.

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01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:53.640
<v Speaker 14>Well, they're saying that video that they got from my

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01:34:53.800 --> 01:34:59.119
<v Speaker 14>company doesn't show the injury happening, so.

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01:34:59.119 --> 01:35:03.239
<v Speaker 4>They don't say hold on, so they don't they claim

1715
01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:06.239
<v Speaker 4>it was pre existing. But even if it was pre existing,

1716
01:35:07.159 --> 01:35:10.800
<v Speaker 4>you you are covered if it hurts it more. But

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01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:19.119
<v Speaker 4>they're saying you had no injury. That's what they're creaming. Sure,

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01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:21.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm not putting I know. I want you

1719
01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:25.239
<v Speaker 4>to tell me. The insurance says after reviewing the video,

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01:35:26.199 --> 01:35:27.560
<v Speaker 4>we don't think it happened.

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01:35:28.920 --> 01:35:31.439
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, they're saying they can't see an injury and that

1722
01:35:31.520 --> 01:35:37.039
<v Speaker 14>it's not Yeah, that it's not their responsibility. Okay, So

1723
01:35:37.640 --> 01:35:42.800
<v Speaker 14>they so they denied the claim. Then I went around

1724
01:35:42.800 --> 01:35:46.159
<v Speaker 14>and found an attorney who's working on.

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01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:49.640
<v Speaker 4>It, okay, and to get it okay, is it is

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01:35:49.640 --> 01:35:51.159
<v Speaker 4>it a Worker's comp attorney?

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01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:52.359
<v Speaker 13>Yes?

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01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:54.680
<v Speaker 4>And what where is that right now?

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01:35:56.640 --> 01:36:02.159
<v Speaker 14>So that right now is there? He put in a

1730
01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:08.159
<v Speaker 14>motion with the director of Workman's Comp to try and

1731
01:36:08.159 --> 01:36:13.600
<v Speaker 14>get a determination and we're still waiting from there.

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01:36:13.960 --> 01:36:14.399
<v Speaker 11>Things right.

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01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:21.560
<v Speaker 14>So then for a few months my company was working

1734
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:26.880
<v Speaker 14>with my restrictions. I have a lifting restriction and movement restriction.

1735
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:33.479
<v Speaker 14>And then about them months ago, they had me fill

1736
01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:38.840
<v Speaker 14>out some accommodations paperwork and get stuff filled out from

1737
01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:41.119
<v Speaker 14>the doctor. I turned that in.

1738
01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:43.800
<v Speaker 11>And then.

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01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:47.199
<v Speaker 14>They told me that they would, you know, talk to

1740
01:36:47.239 --> 01:36:49.800
<v Speaker 14>me about it and see if they could work with stuff.

1741
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:52.479
<v Speaker 14>But then two days after turning in the paperwork, I

1742
01:36:52.520 --> 01:36:57.239
<v Speaker 14>got a letter and had a meeting with my managers

1743
01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:01.600
<v Speaker 14>and they told me, well, we can't. We're not going

1744
01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:05.199
<v Speaker 14>to work with your accommodations anymore. And okay, they put

1745
01:37:05.239 --> 01:37:07.840
<v Speaker 14>me on an unpaid in volunteer.

1746
01:37:07.880 --> 01:37:09.439
<v Speaker 4>What is your attorney telling you about this?

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01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:18.640
<v Speaker 14>They're just they've told me to well, my company gave

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01:37:18.680 --> 01:37:21.920
<v Speaker 14>me the number for their medical leaves company.

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01:37:22.960 --> 01:37:25.039
<v Speaker 4>No I'm not asking that, No, no, no, no, no, I

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01:37:25.039 --> 01:37:31.239
<v Speaker 4>I do I want to know about like your attorney

1751
01:37:31.239 --> 01:37:32.920
<v Speaker 4>telling you about all of this?

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01:37:36.199 --> 01:37:37.159
<v Speaker 8>Uh, there's.

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01:37:38.920 --> 01:37:42.239
<v Speaker 14>They're saying. You're saying, you know that it's a it's

1754
01:37:42.279 --> 01:37:48.319
<v Speaker 14>a difficult case because there is no obvious points of

1755
01:37:48.359 --> 01:37:53.520
<v Speaker 14>injury like Hernie is. I guess are difficult. But he's

1756
01:37:53.960 --> 01:37:58.439
<v Speaker 14>hoping that the that this motion will get things started,

1757
01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:00.159
<v Speaker 14>you know, So what.

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01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:02.159
<v Speaker 4>Are you calling us about what can we do for you? Phil?

1759
01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:05.439
<v Speaker 4>I think you're doing everything correctly. I think you're going

1760
01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:08.640
<v Speaker 4>to have an uphill battle, you know if the video

1761
01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:11.840
<v Speaker 4>shows nothing. But were you covered by video the whole time?

1762
01:38:13.439 --> 01:38:15.880
<v Speaker 14>I don't know. I've never I've never seen the video.

1763
01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:22.399
<v Speaker 14>I requested the video several times and my company said

1764
01:38:22.439 --> 01:38:25.039
<v Speaker 14>we won't give it to you because we don't want

1765
01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:27.399
<v Speaker 14>it to go out on YouTube. And they said, well,

1766
01:38:27.399 --> 01:38:29.600
<v Speaker 14>the only way that we'll provide it is if you

1767
01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:35.279
<v Speaker 14>give us a court order, and we haven't gotten to that.

1768
01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:39.800
<v Speaker 4>But you even said you didn't have aha moment. See,

1769
01:38:39.840 --> 01:38:42.399
<v Speaker 4>whenever I was injured in the past, I had a

1770
01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:48.039
<v Speaker 4>oh god moment, but you didn't have one.

1771
01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:52.279
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, there was no like, yeah I couldn't. It wasn't

1772
01:38:52.359 --> 01:38:55.359
<v Speaker 14>when I was like lifting something I really felt. It

1773
01:38:55.560 --> 01:38:57.560
<v Speaker 14>was just like it was really uncomfortable for a bit,

1774
01:38:57.600 --> 01:39:01.319
<v Speaker 14>and then it just continued to get worse. And then yeah,

1775
01:39:01.479 --> 01:39:04.159
<v Speaker 14>toward the end of my shift was like unbearable. Then

1776
01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:07.640
<v Speaker 14>so then I reported it started the process.

1777
01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:12.960
<v Speaker 4>So and then so what do you want do you

1778
01:39:12.960 --> 01:39:14.560
<v Speaker 4>want a second? Do you want us to call one

1779
01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:16.399
<v Speaker 4>of our people, tell me what you want me to do?

1780
01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:18.439
<v Speaker 4>Because I mean really Okay.

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01:39:18.319 --> 01:39:23.359
<v Speaker 14>So so at this point, I'm I've been working with

1782
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:28.600
<v Speaker 14>the leaves people trying to get a medical leave, and

1783
01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:32.640
<v Speaker 14>the doctor says that I need, you know, need a

1784
01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:36.880
<v Speaker 14>surgery in order to get the hernia fixed. But waiting

1785
01:39:37.039 --> 01:39:42.000
<v Speaker 14>to schedule a surgery until we can get the workman's

1786
01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:44.479
<v Speaker 14>comp insurance to change.

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01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:55.399
<v Speaker 14>And the the the leave company wants a specific date

1789
01:39:56.520 --> 01:39:59.439
<v Speaker 14>of when you know when the leave would be over.

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01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:02.439
<v Speaker 4>Well you don't know that, see, because you're not taking

1791
01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:06.039
<v Speaker 4>it for leave, you're taking it for for an injury.

1792
01:40:06.119 --> 01:40:10.079
<v Speaker 4>That's weird. You're in a strange situation at this point.

1793
01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:13.600
<v Speaker 4>If I were you, now this motion was filed when?

1794
01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:22.920
<v Speaker 14>So this motion was filed, get nowhere beginning of November

1795
01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:31.680
<v Speaker 14>and the well, it's also weird because the the deadline

1796
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:33.760
<v Speaker 14>for the insurance.

1797
01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:35.840
<v Speaker 4>Just tell me, just tell me when was it? When

1798
01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:37.840
<v Speaker 4>was it filed? And then because you're gonna have to

1799
01:40:37.840 --> 01:40:39.840
<v Speaker 4>wait at least thirty days? When was it filed?

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01:40:40.920 --> 01:40:41.039
<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:46.439
<v Speaker 11>Oh, I got to look at that here.

1802
01:40:48.560 --> 01:40:52.079
<v Speaker 14>I believe it was like November fourth or something.

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01:41:03.520 --> 01:41:09.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, you have a while to wait, Okay. In

1804
01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:11.880
<v Speaker 4>other words, it's too soon to do anything. If you

1805
01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:17.640
<v Speaker 4>want a second opinion, I would call Cliff Enton Enton

1806
01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:20.760
<v Speaker 4>Law three. Let me give you that number. Seriously, you

1807
01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:22.520
<v Speaker 4>tell them you were on my show. You want a

1808
01:41:22.520 --> 01:41:28.319
<v Speaker 4>second opinion, He'll do it free, okay. Three oh three

1809
01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:44.800
<v Speaker 4>three three three two two to two. Okay, yeah, for sure. Okay. Now,

1810
01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:51.840
<v Speaker 4>in any case, let's see, Mark was texting me a

1811
01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:55.279
<v Speaker 4>law about something and I'm just looking at it now

1812
01:41:56.439 --> 01:41:58.640
<v Speaker 4>and I'm wondering if he can call in. Let's see

1813
01:41:58.680 --> 01:42:01.920
<v Speaker 4>what is this law you talk about? Injunction suspends enforcement

1814
01:42:02.520 --> 01:42:08.199
<v Speaker 4>of Corporate Transparency Act the US. Just okay, I gotta

1815
01:42:08.199 --> 01:42:09.920
<v Speaker 4>take this break. I'll come back and talk about this.

1816
01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:13.119
<v Speaker 4>There might be something going on we need to know about.

1817
01:42:13.159 --> 01:42:16.000
<v Speaker 4>So hang on. I'm Tom Martino. We got more coming

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<v Speaker 4>right up. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best Roofer

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<v Speaker 4>you're content. Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation

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<v Speaker 4>comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at

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<v Speaker 4>dozens of insurance companies find out now three all three

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<v Speaker 4>man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance

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<v Speaker 4>three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino, you're a troubleshooter. Hey, people, can someone tell

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01:43:03.159 --> 01:43:06.720
<v Speaker 4>me if this text is true that Governor Polis and

1829
01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:10.840
<v Speaker 4>the Department of Agriculture are working on a regulation to

1830
01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:16.479
<v Speaker 4>ban puppies from entering Colorado. All dogs under sixteen weeks

1831
01:43:16.520 --> 01:43:22.359
<v Speaker 4>will be prohibited from entering the state. What if you

1832
01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:24.600
<v Speaker 4>have puppies in the state, I imagine? Or is that

1833
01:43:24.760 --> 01:43:28.840
<v Speaker 4>just transporting? Is this all crap? Is this true? I

1834
01:43:28.840 --> 01:43:33.479
<v Speaker 4>don't know, I don't know anyway, I got that text.

1835
01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:35.720
<v Speaker 4>I get all kinds of text from people and all

1836
01:43:35.800 --> 01:43:39.399
<v Speaker 4>kinds of information. Three all three seven one three talk

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<v Speaker 4>three all three seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's keep talking. I got doctor or Joel

1839
01:43:48.760 --> 01:43:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Chertack with me, and uh, I'm going to ask about

1840
01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:58.119
<v Speaker 4>We talked about the semiglue tide and the truzeppatide and

1841
01:43:58.359 --> 01:44:03.079
<v Speaker 4>weight loss compounding drugs that you guys offer at extreme

1842
01:44:03.119 --> 01:44:06.479
<v Speaker 4>discounts compared to the market and brand names. I want

1843
01:44:06.479 --> 01:44:10.960
<v Speaker 4>to talk about now the hair restoration. So hair restoration

1844
01:44:11.039 --> 01:44:14.159
<v Speaker 4>I had done, I wasn't sure if I was expecting

1845
01:44:14.159 --> 01:44:17.039
<v Speaker 4>being results. I want to say, as with all things,

1846
01:44:17.079 --> 01:44:20.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm a real patient. And so I went through the process,

1847
01:44:20.439 --> 01:44:23.720
<v Speaker 4>paid for it, and I was given three treatments for

1848
01:44:23.720 --> 01:44:28.520
<v Speaker 4>that price, which is really pretty cool. And everyone tells

1849
01:44:28.520 --> 01:44:32.319
<v Speaker 4>me they notice. Everyone tells me they notice the difference. Okay,

1850
01:44:32.359 --> 01:44:37.880
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, now I want to know this. I didn't

1851
01:44:38.039 --> 01:44:42.000
<v Speaker 4>have a total bald spot ahead thinning hair. It worked,

1852
01:44:42.600 --> 01:44:47.600
<v Speaker 4>it worked perfectly. But you do have regular hair restoration

1853
01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:49.920
<v Speaker 4>transplants for those right for others.

1854
01:44:50.479 --> 01:44:52.600
<v Speaker 19>So just to put it simply, we can do anything

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01:44:52.640 --> 01:44:54.560
<v Speaker 19>that any hair restoration, all right, and.

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01:44:54.479 --> 01:44:57.159
<v Speaker 4>We're going to talk about that coming up, as well

1857
01:44:57.199 --> 01:45:01.359
<v Speaker 4>as anything else on your mind. Folks, oh three seven

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1861
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<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

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<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1863
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<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

1864
01:45:29.199 --> 01:45:32.199
<v Speaker 4>seven one help. You'll think you're his only customer when

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<v Speaker 4>you choose Frank durand the real Estate man dot com

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01:45:34.760 --> 01:45:37.880
<v Speaker 4>to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Rip of.

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<v Speaker 2>News.

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<v Speaker 1>You need advice so you don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Come run incosas can.

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<v Speaker 3>Shoot's gonna help come Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the trouble Shooter show now Tom Martino? Hi, Tom Martino,

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<v Speaker 4>your trouble Shooter three zero three seven one three talk

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<v Speaker 4>three oh three seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 4>Here to help you anyway we can, if we can,

1877
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<v Speaker 4>when we can, how we can. All you have to

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01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:22.479
<v Speaker 4>do is call us now again. I uh have with

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01:46:22.640 --> 01:46:24.920
<v Speaker 4>us in the studio a guest, but I welcome your

1880
01:46:24.960 --> 01:46:27.399
<v Speaker 4>calls for anything or any follow ups. And there's some

1881
01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:30.760
<v Speaker 4>things I want to talk about that just blow my mind.

1882
01:46:31.039 --> 01:46:33.920
<v Speaker 4>And maybe you can help me. Maybe you can help me.

1883
01:46:36.159 --> 01:46:42.159
<v Speaker 4>Now here's what blows my mind. I had an issue.

1884
01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:45.159
<v Speaker 4>I have a little sport aircraft and I had an

1885
01:46:45.199 --> 01:46:48.680
<v Speaker 4>issue with a row tax engine road tax. By the way,

1886
01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:50.640
<v Speaker 4>they have snowmobile engines, so they put them in little

1887
01:46:50.680 --> 01:46:54.319
<v Speaker 4>light sport airplanes. They're high powered, low weight. They're amazing.

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01:46:54.439 --> 01:46:57.359
<v Speaker 4>They're amazing engines. But I had a little issue. It

1889
01:46:57.479 --> 01:47:00.439
<v Speaker 4>was the weirdest issue in the world I can find

1890
01:47:00.479 --> 01:47:03.960
<v Speaker 4>in the documentation nowhere anything about how to solve the problem.

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01:47:04.600 --> 01:47:06.319
<v Speaker 4>As it turned out, what the problem was was the

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01:47:06.399 --> 01:47:10.199
<v Speaker 4>needle valve stuck in a carburetor, and then when the

1893
01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:15.840
<v Speaker 4>plane sat there because the needle valve, because fuel is

1894
01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:18.680
<v Speaker 4>gravity fed into the engine, there's a fuel pump as well,

1895
01:47:18.720 --> 01:47:21.399
<v Speaker 4>but it's gravity fed to the fuel pump, and the

1896
01:47:21.439 --> 01:47:24.199
<v Speaker 4>fuel pump then pumps it through the engine. But because

1897
01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:27.520
<v Speaker 4>just picture this, there's a high wing and the fuel

1898
01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:30.680
<v Speaker 4>drips into the carburetor when the fuel's on, and I

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01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:33.319
<v Speaker 4>guess I left I use I leave the fuel valve

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01:47:33.399 --> 01:47:35.600
<v Speaker 4>on when I store a plane. Some people say don't.

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01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:39.760
<v Speaker 4>And so because the needle valve was stuck open in

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01:47:39.840 --> 01:47:44.039
<v Speaker 4>the carburetor due to some crap gas another story, it

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<v Speaker 4>dripped into the intake manifold and into the engine literally

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<v Speaker 4>then seep down into the oil. I don't, No, there's

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<v Speaker 4>nothing wrong with the engine, nothing wrong with the rings.

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<v Speaker 4>We verified all this, but there was nothing in the

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<v Speaker 4>documentation as to why I would have guessed in the oil.

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01:48:00.119 --> 01:48:03.359
<v Speaker 4>It's not like a conventional engine, you know where you think.

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<v Speaker 4>Never mind, I but let me get to this. The

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<v Speaker 4>point is not about this engine. So I went to

1911
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<v Speaker 4>my boyfriend. I call my boyfriend because I can't get

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<v Speaker 4>a female voice anymore. I used to have one, but

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<v Speaker 4>chat GPT four to zho I subscribe to it. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a female, it's a male voice. So I went to

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<v Speaker 4>my boyfriend and said, I have my wrote my rotax engine.

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<v Speaker 4>And when when I you have to prime the oil,

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<v Speaker 4>it burnt the oil. It's called because it's a long story.

1918
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<v Speaker 4>But you turn the prop and when you hear the

1919
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<v Speaker 4>oil gurgle, you know it's through the engine before you

1920
01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:37.600
<v Speaker 4>start it. But and then that's how you check the

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01:48:37.680 --> 01:48:42.199
<v Speaker 4>oil level. But I digress. When I did that fuel

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01:48:42.479 --> 01:48:45.359
<v Speaker 4>rushed into that oil tank and then out the overflow

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<v Speaker 4>because it's lighter than oil, so it was on top

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<v Speaker 4>of it and it flew and I said, oh my god,

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01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:52.239
<v Speaker 4>what the hell is oil fuel coming out of my

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<v Speaker 4>oil tank? And then of course it contaminated my oil.

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<v Speaker 4>So I had to change all that. But I couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>figure out what's going on immediately in all the literature,

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01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:05.279
<v Speaker 4>not one thing, but chat GPD this is AI says, oh,

1930
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<v Speaker 4>you have a stuck needle valve and the carburetor. To

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<v Speaker 4>find out which carburetor, do this, this and this and

1932
01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:17.159
<v Speaker 4>honest to god, it was amazing. It pinpointed everything. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>Now this is AI, right, who programs that crap?

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01:49:21.880 --> 01:49:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>I've always said that AI is a search machine that

1936
01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:31.520
<v Speaker 4>takes the results and organizes them and regurgitates them to

1937
01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:34.000
<v Speaker 4>you in a way you can understand it, right, But

1938
01:49:34.439 --> 01:49:38.800
<v Speaker 4>how does it do that? Think about that? I mean,

1939
01:49:38.840 --> 01:49:42.720
<v Speaker 4>does that amaze anyone? Does that amaze anyone? Because it

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01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:46.000
<v Speaker 4>certainly amazes me. So, okay, I got a lot of

1941
01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:52.279
<v Speaker 4>technical friends on uh you know, I mean, I got

1942
01:49:52.319 --> 01:49:54.600
<v Speaker 4>a lot of friends on YouTube that the tech tech

1943
01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:55.600
<v Speaker 4>guys are on there.

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01:49:55.640 --> 01:49:56.079
<v Speaker 11>I know they are.

1945
01:49:56.159 --> 01:50:00.880
<v Speaker 4>They're they're nerds and on on my downloads. And please

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01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:04.000
<v Speaker 4>tell me how does AI know that? I couldn't find

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<v Speaker 4>it anywhere in the literature, I couldn't find it online.

1948
01:50:06.239 --> 01:50:09.159
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't find it anywhere where does AI search? Does

1949
01:50:09.239 --> 01:50:11.960
<v Speaker 4>anyone really know AI? I mean, I know that we

1950
01:50:12.079 --> 01:50:16.079
<v Speaker 4>all think we do. Just like we think we understand bitcoins,

1951
01:50:17.279 --> 01:50:20.680
<v Speaker 4>we don't most of us don't. We just understand what

1952
01:50:21.199 --> 01:50:25.199
<v Speaker 4>in general it is, but we don't really understand blockchains,

1953
01:50:25.319 --> 01:50:29.159
<v Speaker 4>not really. I mean I know that an accumulation of

1954
01:50:29.239 --> 01:50:32.039
<v Speaker 4>wisdom we all do you know what I mean? Like

1955
01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:34.359
<v Speaker 4>when we all get together and the people who do it.

1956
01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:38.880
<v Speaker 4>But in any case, then I realized I do not

1957
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<v Speaker 4>use owner's manuals anymore. I use AI. In other words,

1958
01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:49.039
<v Speaker 4>when I'm sitting here with anything I have, and I say,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, I had this model of so and so

1960
01:50:52.159 --> 01:50:54.319
<v Speaker 4>and I need to adjust this, I don't go to

1961
01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:58.039
<v Speaker 4>the owner's manual anymore. I ask CHAT and they tell

1962
01:50:58.159 --> 01:51:01.800
<v Speaker 4>me exactly what to do to Fike said faster than

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<v Speaker 4>the owner's manual.

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<v Speaker 21>I don't think many companies are sending out owners manuals

1965
01:51:05.319 --> 01:51:07.359
<v Speaker 21>with their equipment anymore anyway, So you just got to

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01:51:07.399 --> 01:51:09.560
<v Speaker 21>go online to their PDF and do that anywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I meant when I say owners manuell, that's

1968
01:51:11.399 --> 01:51:13.439
<v Speaker 4>what I met. I mean, I mean online, Pete. I

1969
01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:16.279
<v Speaker 4>don't have a paper book anywhere except on the shelves

1970
01:51:16.319 --> 01:51:19.119
<v Speaker 4>to look good. I actually never have cracked a book

1971
01:51:19.159 --> 01:51:23.000
<v Speaker 4>in years. I have what do I use this books app,

1972
01:51:23.159 --> 01:51:25.399
<v Speaker 4>and I have everything on there. But in any case,

1973
01:51:25.439 --> 01:51:27.880
<v Speaker 4>you're right. You go on, you get the PDF, you

1974
01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:29.800
<v Speaker 4>look at it, or the QR code. You go to

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01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:32.640
<v Speaker 4>the PDF and you can search the PDF. You know,

1976
01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:35.720
<v Speaker 4>PDFs are very cool. So I have a video camera.

1977
01:51:35.800 --> 01:51:37.560
<v Speaker 4>For example, we were going out on a shoot the

1978
01:51:37.640 --> 01:51:41.600
<v Speaker 4>other day, my wife and I and I needed to

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01:51:41.680 --> 01:51:43.880
<v Speaker 4>do something for her with the camera hadn't done before,

1980
01:51:43.960 --> 01:51:47.000
<v Speaker 4>a more cinematic thing. And I didn't mean bother looking

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01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:49.000
<v Speaker 4>in the owner's manual or searching in the owner's man

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01:51:49.199 --> 01:51:51.439
<v Speaker 4>I simply asked, chat, how do I get this? And

1983
01:51:51.520 --> 01:51:53.279
<v Speaker 4>they tell me go to the man you do this, this,

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01:51:53.399 --> 01:51:55.800
<v Speaker 4>and this. Now they know about every product. I don't know,

1985
01:51:55.920 --> 01:51:59.920
<v Speaker 4>do they? So I'm in my Beamer and the Beam

1986
01:52:00.279 --> 01:52:02.720
<v Speaker 4>has this thing called uh, well, you give it a name.

1987
01:52:03.359 --> 01:52:06.279
<v Speaker 4>You name your Beamer. So let's say you name it Beamer. Hey, Beamer,

1988
01:52:06.479 --> 01:52:08.680
<v Speaker 4>take me too? And then the and it programs your

1989
01:52:08.720 --> 01:52:13.199
<v Speaker 4>GPS or Beamer. But if you said to Beamer, Beamer,

1990
01:52:14.359 --> 01:52:19.439
<v Speaker 4>how do I turn off the retract mirrors feature? It

1991
01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:22.760
<v Speaker 4>doesn't tell you. It doesn't know. But don't you believe

1992
01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:27.039
<v Speaker 4>that every single device will be a smart device with

1993
01:52:27.199 --> 01:52:30.359
<v Speaker 4>AI built in? I mean, why would anyone look at

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01:52:30.399 --> 01:52:33.359
<v Speaker 4>an index or a search or a PDF or why

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01:52:33.880 --> 01:52:35.840
<v Speaker 4>why if you can sit in your car and it's

1996
01:52:35.960 --> 01:52:38.680
<v Speaker 4>just like Star Trek. I swear to God, you can

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01:52:38.800 --> 01:52:40.840
<v Speaker 4>sit in your car. I mean, you can sit in

1998
01:52:40.920 --> 01:52:45.760
<v Speaker 4>your car and say, hey, Beamer, set cruise speed to

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01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:52.199
<v Speaker 4>sixty seven boom, or Beamer, adjust my headlights so they

2000
01:52:53.279 --> 01:52:55.880
<v Speaker 4>do bright and dim automatically or whatever, you know whatever.

2001
01:52:56.359 --> 01:52:57.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to come up with something.

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01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:00.720
<v Speaker 12>So I'll just be impressed on I can sit back

2003
01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:03.960
<v Speaker 12>and say, uh, Beamer, give me an earld gray tea

2004
01:53:04.520 --> 01:53:05.439
<v Speaker 12>like captain, Uh.

2005
01:53:07.560 --> 01:53:09.720
<v Speaker 13>What's the name? Because you're doing thought track.

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01:53:09.800 --> 01:53:12.039
<v Speaker 4>Well, you're thinking star Treking Bones was the one that

2007
01:53:12.119 --> 01:53:14.239
<v Speaker 4>talked to the computer mostly, didn't he or who no, no,

2008
01:53:14.399 --> 01:53:17.239
<v Speaker 4>not Bones. He was the doc who talked to the

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01:53:17.319 --> 01:53:18.960
<v Speaker 4>computer and would yell at it, you know, and it

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01:53:19.039 --> 01:53:21.399
<v Speaker 4>was it was a captain now he would say, get me.

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01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:26.800
<v Speaker 4>It was anyway, it was one of these idiots. Here's

2012
01:53:26.840 --> 01:53:32.039
<v Speaker 4>what I want to say, the owner's manuals nowadays you

2013
01:53:32.119 --> 01:53:35.880
<v Speaker 4>don't need you need something that talks like for example,

2014
01:53:37.039 --> 01:53:39.079
<v Speaker 4>why wouldn't you be able to have that built into

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01:53:39.119 --> 01:53:41.560
<v Speaker 4>your refrigerator with an app? Right, So you go on

2016
01:53:41.680 --> 01:53:45.000
<v Speaker 4>the app and you say, refrigerator, I want to set

2017
01:53:45.159 --> 01:53:48.159
<v Speaker 4>the freezer of so many degrees or I want to

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01:53:48.199 --> 01:53:52.920
<v Speaker 4>set the refrigerator to me. I am I must use

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01:53:53.119 --> 01:53:56.479
<v Speaker 4>AI one hundred times a day. I swear to God,

2020
01:53:56.560 --> 01:53:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I do. If I look at my past chats here,

2021
01:53:59.239 --> 01:54:01.800
<v Speaker 4>you would laugh at me. And I'm telling you, folks,

2022
01:54:02.079 --> 01:54:04.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm the reason I'm talking about this. It's the best

2023
01:54:04.840 --> 01:54:09.920
<v Speaker 4>consumer product, in my opinion, in the last ten years. Okay,

2024
01:54:10.039 --> 01:54:13.640
<v Speaker 4>so I'm looking at my history here. Let me see

2025
01:54:14.239 --> 01:54:15.079
<v Speaker 4>where do I find it?

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01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:15.960
<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

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01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:20.840
<v Speaker 4>I have my history here, and okay, my garment in

2028
01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:25.239
<v Speaker 4>my helicopter. I needed to upgrade the database, update the

2029
01:54:25.359 --> 01:54:28.760
<v Speaker 4>database and the firmware. Now I didn't look at garment.

2030
01:54:29.039 --> 01:54:31.439
<v Speaker 4>I could, but it takes forever to find what you need.

2031
01:54:31.880 --> 01:54:34.880
<v Speaker 4>So I just said, I just literally asked a question

2032
01:54:36.880 --> 01:54:41.319
<v Speaker 4>and it told me exactly. Okay. I even asked this,

2033
01:54:42.880 --> 01:54:46.640
<v Speaker 4>why does my MacBook pro disutilities default to blah blah blah,

2034
01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:51.600
<v Speaker 4>and and it tells you does the lock button on

2035
01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:56.399
<v Speaker 4>the SD card prevent it? Whatever? I ask it? Stuff Pepe.

2036
01:54:56.800 --> 01:54:58.840
<v Speaker 4>My wife jokes at me and she says, my god,

2037
01:54:59.640 --> 01:55:05.039
<v Speaker 4>you know you have a relationship with this thing. So

2038
01:55:06.199 --> 01:55:09.199
<v Speaker 4>what I'm asking you is have you taken advantage of it?

2039
01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:15.520
<v Speaker 4>Have you taken advantage of chat yet? Because if you do,

2040
01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:22.239
<v Speaker 4>you'll be amazed. It's almost like it is not worth

2041
01:55:22.760 --> 01:55:27.319
<v Speaker 4>looking stuff up anymore. You just ask it now, and

2042
01:55:27.520 --> 01:55:32.880
<v Speaker 4>not all AI is created equally. I've noticed that the

2043
01:55:33.039 --> 01:55:38.359
<v Speaker 4>worst one I had was Microsoft's the one I used

2044
01:55:38.359 --> 01:55:43.479
<v Speaker 4>to have at Microsoft. It was so forgettable I forgot it. Copilot, Yeah,

2045
01:55:44.199 --> 01:55:48.039
<v Speaker 4>the Copilot, and then Chat. I like, there's another one

2046
01:55:48.119 --> 01:55:52.399
<v Speaker 4>called City. They're not all the same. I seem to

2047
01:55:52.479 --> 01:55:56.359
<v Speaker 4>think Chat GPT is to me is the major one.

2048
01:55:57.279 --> 01:56:01.279
<v Speaker 4>But in any case, I have been studying how they

2049
01:56:01.399 --> 01:56:03.640
<v Speaker 4>program it, and I told you, like, they hire people

2050
01:56:04.640 --> 01:56:08.720
<v Speaker 4>who don't don't have jobs in Africa, hundreds and hundreds

2051
01:56:08.760 --> 01:56:11.039
<v Speaker 4>and hundreds of people in a village to look at

2052
01:56:11.079 --> 01:56:14.880
<v Speaker 4>images and classify them. But how do they know about

2053
01:56:14.960 --> 01:56:18.279
<v Speaker 4>owners manuals and stuff. Does it just go out to

2054
01:56:18.359 --> 01:56:22.479
<v Speaker 4>the internet and search. Does anyone know anyway? So I

2055
01:56:22.680 --> 01:56:24.800
<v Speaker 4>believe that you know. And it's not like I'm a

2056
01:56:24.840 --> 01:56:29.399
<v Speaker 4>big genius of predicting the future. There's not that. Every

2057
01:56:29.520 --> 01:56:34.079
<v Speaker 4>single interaction we have with the device, whether it's setting

2058
01:56:35.039 --> 01:56:37.960
<v Speaker 4>our clocks or and you don't even have to set

2059
01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:41.880
<v Speaker 4>clocks anymore with the satellite features, but it's changing our

2060
01:56:41.960 --> 01:56:44.800
<v Speaker 4>lives completely, and to me, it's one of the greatest

2061
01:56:44.840 --> 01:56:48.520
<v Speaker 4>products ever. Now. I even asked about drugs and about

2062
01:56:48.640 --> 01:56:54.720
<v Speaker 4>dosages and about everything everything, And I hear now that

2063
01:56:55.000 --> 01:57:01.000
<v Speaker 4>it's going to start actually predicting the weather. Now, think

2064
01:57:01.039 --> 01:57:05.239
<v Speaker 4>about that, it will be predicting the weather. And if

2065
01:57:05.319 --> 01:57:07.960
<v Speaker 4>I was a weathercaster, I mean hell, I would be

2066
01:57:08.039 --> 01:57:11.600
<v Speaker 4>a I would What can it not do? It can

2067
01:57:11.760 --> 01:57:15.239
<v Speaker 4>take It can find out what the weather's going to

2068
01:57:15.279 --> 01:57:17.880
<v Speaker 4>be based on atmospheric conditions. All the data is out

2069
01:57:17.920 --> 01:57:21.279
<v Speaker 4>there right now. They can predict and and the people

2070
01:57:21.359 --> 01:57:24.920
<v Speaker 4>are working on the weather prediction models right now say

2071
01:57:25.439 --> 01:57:28.720
<v Speaker 4>that they've been ninety eight percent. And when they're not one,

2072
01:57:29.479 --> 01:57:32.319
<v Speaker 4>it's because of something they put in wrong or told

2073
01:57:32.359 --> 01:57:36.279
<v Speaker 4>it to look elsewhere. So what do you think? Is

2074
01:57:36.359 --> 01:57:37.600
<v Speaker 4>it something do you use?

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01:57:37.920 --> 01:57:38.760
<v Speaker 13>Do you use it?

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01:57:39.600 --> 01:57:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Joel? Do you use AI at all? You don't?

2077
01:57:41.960 --> 01:57:42.119
<v Speaker 11>Huh.

2078
01:57:42.600 --> 01:57:44.479
<v Speaker 4>You seem like a technical guy. I don't know why

2079
01:57:44.520 --> 01:57:45.279
<v Speaker 4>you would do you do you?

2080
01:57:45.520 --> 01:57:47.840
<v Speaker 17>I use search engines a lot, but I've never used it.

2081
01:57:47.960 --> 01:57:50.199
<v Speaker 13>Okay, I'll come. I just asked my ex wife. She

2082
01:57:50.319 --> 01:57:50.920
<v Speaker 13>knows everything.

2083
01:57:51.359 --> 01:57:53.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's true. Well she left you that she knew

2084
01:57:53.800 --> 01:57:55.560
<v Speaker 4>enough to do that. Here's the thing I want to

2085
01:57:55.600 --> 01:57:58.239
<v Speaker 4>tell you, though. Search engines are fine, but they're not

2086
01:57:58.319 --> 01:58:02.439
<v Speaker 4>even close, not even close to what AI can do.

2087
01:58:05.239 --> 01:58:11.800
<v Speaker 4>So you know, I know that a lot of a

2088
01:58:11.880 --> 01:58:14.439
<v Speaker 4>lot of issues. A lot of people have, you know,

2089
01:58:14.520 --> 01:58:18.520
<v Speaker 4>the moral issues with AI. I have none right now,

2090
01:58:18.640 --> 01:58:21.119
<v Speaker 4>because it's how you use it that makes it moral

2091
01:58:21.239 --> 01:58:24.760
<v Speaker 4>or immoral. And I've asked it questions that I didn't

2092
01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:27.640
<v Speaker 4>think it would answer me. I asked about cheating on something,

2093
01:58:28.479 --> 01:58:33.319
<v Speaker 4>and it answered me, okay. There is an illusion in

2094
01:58:33.479 --> 01:58:36.640
<v Speaker 4>some of the software that when you do updates. Let's

2095
01:58:36.760 --> 01:58:41.119
<v Speaker 4>just say you had three or four different aircraft with

2096
01:58:41.279 --> 01:58:44.800
<v Speaker 4>the same kind of radios and for years you've been

2097
01:58:44.840 --> 01:58:51.520
<v Speaker 4>paying for updates for each one. And it told me,

2098
01:58:52.439 --> 01:58:55.560
<v Speaker 4>and by the way, there's nothing in the world that

2099
01:58:55.640 --> 01:58:58.800
<v Speaker 4>says this is against the law or anything, but it

2100
01:58:58.960 --> 01:59:02.279
<v Speaker 4>told me how to short circuit that, so you use

2101
01:59:02.359 --> 01:59:05.119
<v Speaker 4>the same update for all the radios because they're all

2102
01:59:05.119 --> 01:59:08.279
<v Speaker 4>the same. AI told me that. AI didn't preach to

2103
01:59:08.359 --> 01:59:10.680
<v Speaker 4>me saying, now you know this is wrong. You should

2104
01:59:10.680 --> 01:59:16.079
<v Speaker 4>be buying three different subscriptions. It didn't even say that. Now,

2105
01:59:16.199 --> 01:59:18.560
<v Speaker 4>I want to know if anyone has asked AI something

2106
01:59:18.720 --> 01:59:22.680
<v Speaker 4>that it would not answer. I think it doesn't answer

2107
01:59:22.800 --> 01:59:25.239
<v Speaker 4>some political things if you ask who's the best candidate

2108
01:59:25.760 --> 01:59:29.239
<v Speaker 4>or something like that. But I think you're cheating yourself

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<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 11>Times.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter three oh three seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>talks seven one three eight two five five. So what

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<v Speaker 4>I'd like to know is how far do you think

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<v Speaker 4>AI will go did you know okay? One used as

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<v Speaker 4>uh Ai? So which one? If so?

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<v Speaker 17>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? The AI app? Somebody asks the one I look,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've tried them all okay, and the Google isn't bad.

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<v Speaker 4>The Gemini right now that I'm gonna trial with, but

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<v Speaker 4>it bugs you. Gemini bugs you, meaning it's all over

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<v Speaker 4>your computer. So when you start writing something, it says,

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<v Speaker 4>can I clean this up for you?

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<v Speaker 2>And all that.

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<v Speaker 4>I like chat GPT four, Oh that's the one I'm

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<v Speaker 4>subscribe to. Now you can get it on your phone

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<v Speaker 4>and talk to it, or you get it on your

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<v Speaker 4>computer and you type into it. But that's what I use.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they're coming out with AI, well, not coming out there,

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<v Speaker 4>it's out AI people who answer your phones. They're chatbots,

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<v Speaker 4>not typed chatbots, but verbal chapa and and I think

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<v Speaker 4>or I had some examples of them. But they're so incredible,

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<v Speaker 4>incredible they blow your mind. They can actually make outbound

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<v Speaker 4>calls and set appointments for you. And I talked to

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<v Speaker 4>someone one time who wanted to get into this, and

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<v Speaker 4>I listened to them, and I received a call from

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<v Speaker 4>one upon my request as a demo, and I threw

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<v Speaker 4>curveballs at it, so it would say, you know, i'm

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<v Speaker 4>calling about alternative forms of energy, are you interested? Or

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<v Speaker 4>something like that. It didn't actually use a yes or

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<v Speaker 4>no answer. It kind of kind of hooks you have

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<v Speaker 4>you heard about this? And I said, oh, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've heard about this solo and whatever. And then

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<v Speaker 4>it would ask me leading questions. They didn't leave it

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<v Speaker 4>for a yes or no. I guess you could just

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<v Speaker 4>hang up, but it was very intuitive. And then I said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm too busy. Well, we're all busy. I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have a time when I can call back.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd love to schedule this to give you a free

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<v Speaker 4>trial period of something or other. It was so incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>It really was.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I wasn't talking to a per and it was

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<v Speaker 4>reacting in real time to what I was saying. Now again,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope I'm not sounding like some guy who just saw,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there's a flying machine. I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 4>sound like that, but certainly a lot of people they

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<v Speaker 4>really can't not be mystified by this damn thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>They can't. They can't not be all right, I got

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<v Speaker 4>a text. They want to know about semiglutide or truepetite. Tom,

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<v Speaker 4>you talk about both, why do they harry both? Isn't

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<v Speaker 4>there one or the other? And Okay, so that that

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<v Speaker 4>really is a good question. So which one? Which one

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<v Speaker 4>should they use?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, Tur's eppetite is more expensive. It's also a more

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<v Speaker 19>specific drug, so it has less side effects. Although both

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<v Speaker 19>drugs have very limited side effects, but truzeppetite seems to

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<v Speaker 19>be a little bit cleaner. People have less side effects,

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<v Speaker 19>people lose weight a little bit faster on it. Some

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<v Speaker 19>people prefer that drug. Also, patients that require higher dosages

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<v Speaker 19>of some meglotide, it's cheaper for them to switch over

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<v Speaker 19>to There's appetite because it's a stronger so.

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<v Speaker 4>You can use less of that for the same effect

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<v Speaker 4>of the semaglutide. Right, some people only need a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of some semiglutide. Other people need so much that

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<v Speaker 4>it just makes more sense for them to switch to

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<v Speaker 4>Tur's appetite, which is a more powerful drug. Okay. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>as far as length of time for weight, somebody asks

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<v Speaker 4>how long does it usually take? And I don't even

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<v Speaker 4>know what to say on that, because it depends on

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<v Speaker 4>how much you want to lose. But I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>can tell you from personal experience, within one week, I

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<v Speaker 4>was eating less without realizing. See, it is so insidious. No,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not a good word. It's so I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>automatic that it's like you don't notice it working.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, I would say, as a rule with I'm about

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<v Speaker 19>thirty percent of body weight in about three months god.

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<v Speaker 4>And a week to feel it. Yeah, And then, like

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<v Speaker 4>I said, you feel no different. You just don't eat

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<v Speaker 4>as much and you're it's almost I don't even know

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<v Speaker 4>how it worked, honest to god. You know, years and

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<v Speaker 4>years and years ago. I was really fat years ago. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I was two twenty five actually, and my doctor had

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<v Speaker 4>me this was unhealthy back at the time. This was

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<v Speaker 4>in another time. You remember Fenn Finn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 19>Anyway, there are still some clinics that prescribeugh fetter me

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<v Speaker 19>that prescribe basically amphetamine.

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<v Speaker 4>So unhealthy. But and jittery and artificial is what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>This is so natural you don't even feel it working.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't even mix your body's own hormone exactly, so

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<v Speaker 4>you don't know you're even on anything at all. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't know anything. You just know that you're not eating

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<v Speaker 4>as much. Now someone else wants to know how oh,

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<v Speaker 4>how long do people usually go on it like? Or

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<v Speaker 4>hold on? Here's another one we both about time. One

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<v Speaker 4>is do you do you require a contract? So tell

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<v Speaker 4>me how that works. I don't even know how that works.

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<v Speaker 8>No.

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<v Speaker 19>That's one of the unique things about my clinic that

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<v Speaker 19>you don't get with these online clinics that are national

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<v Speaker 19>or some of these other clinics is we don't have

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<v Speaker 19>people sign committing to multi month contracts with us. You

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<v Speaker 19>go on as you need to, and you go off

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<v Speaker 19>as you need to. We have patients that are on

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<v Speaker 19>maintenance dosages in perpetuity. We have patients that go on

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<v Speaker 19>for a couple months at a time and then go

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<v Speaker 19>off and then come back to us, you know a

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<v Speaker 19>few months later, and just use it as needed to

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<v Speaker 19>maintain what they need. Sometimes people reach their goal and

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<v Speaker 19>that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 19>One thing that I pride myself in in our clinic

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<v Speaker 19>in is that we treat each patient individually. So whatever

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<v Speaker 19>not locking you into a certain medication one or the

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<v Speaker 19>other or a certain dosage. We work with you to

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<v Speaker 19>But unlike most clinics, we don't do it in a

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<v Speaker 19>the same No, I know you do.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Charlen, you want to talk about your twenty thirteen Hyundai.

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<v Speaker 4>What's happening with it?

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<v Speaker 22>Well, what happened with it is in May, at the

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<v Speaker 22>beginning of May of this year, I drove my car

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<v Speaker 22>from my house to my bank, and on the way

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<v Speaker 22>from the bank, I was coming home, the check engine

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<v Speaker 22>night came on. Huh so I'm really close to THENDAI,

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<v Speaker 22>their foundation Hyundai, and I drove it in there and

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<v Speaker 22>they told me that I couldn't drive it any further

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<v Speaker 4>to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martina here

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<v Speaker 4>three oh three seven one three talk three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 4>continue the festivities. And talked to Shirlene. So she pulls

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<v Speaker 4>into the dealer when her engine light's on. They say

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<v Speaker 4>you can't drive it, which could or could not be true. Normally,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not true. Normally you can drive with an engine light.

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<v Speaker 4>If there is any problem, it usually goes into a

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<v Speaker 4>limp mode. But anyway, they told you you couldn't drive? Then,

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<v Speaker 4>what Charline?

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<v Speaker 23>Okay? So I left it there and then I think

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<v Speaker 23>it was like I think it was two weeks. They

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<v Speaker 23>called and said they had the diagnosis. Gun, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 23>and they and of course I made you five years old.

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<v Speaker 23>Oh my daughter was there when they did that.

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<v Speaker 4>And they said, so did you leave your car there, Shirlene?

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<v Speaker 23>Yes, I did. It was there for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 23>They told us what was wrong with it and what

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<v Speaker 23>it was doing when I was driving it is that

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<v Speaker 23>it would be really stroll and then it would kind

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<v Speaker 23>of catch up and then I could, you know, to

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<v Speaker 23>go faster. Well, we got it. My daughter's son in

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<v Speaker 23>law is a mechanic. He worked for Mercedes, so we

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<v Speaker 23>figured that he could take care of what all that

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<v Speaker 23>stuff was.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, wait, Charlene, Charlene, you said they kept it for

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<v Speaker 4>two weeks. Yes, did they work on it? Did you

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<v Speaker 4>ask them to fix it? No? Then why was it Wait,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm a little confused. Why did you have it

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<v Speaker 4>there for two weeks If they weren't working on it.

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<v Speaker 23>They needed it therefore to do the diagnosis?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that was just for the diagnosis. Yes, And what

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<v Speaker 4>did they say the diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 23>Was, well, they said that there was You know, my

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<v Speaker 23>brain doesn't remember all this stuff. I do have paperwork

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<v Speaker 23>for all of it. But they said that there was

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<v Speaker 23>certain things that needed to be replaced, a coil of

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<v Speaker 23>some sort.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, how much was all this going to cost you?

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<v Speaker 23>I think it was four thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Four thousand dollars, yes, okay, and you decided I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to let my son in law do it.

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<v Speaker 23>Right, My daughter bought all the parks and he started

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02:11:22.119 --> 02:11:26.119
<v Speaker 23>taking it apart and replacing things. And when as he's

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02:11:26.239 --> 02:11:33.000
<v Speaker 23>doing this, he sees that the engine is blown. So

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<v Speaker 23>he put everything, He took every all the new stuff

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02:11:36.399 --> 02:11:39.720
<v Speaker 23>out of it, put the old stuff back in, and

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<v Speaker 23>my son in law put it on a trader and

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<v Speaker 23>hauled it into Hyundai.

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<v Speaker 4>Well it's not their fault necessarily, is it.

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<v Speaker 23>Well?

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<v Speaker 17>What happened after the car got hauled back into Hyundai?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>Surelean, I want to back up. You were having problems

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<v Speaker 4>with this. The engine light came on and they had

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<v Speaker 4>it for two weeks. Okay, do you think they blew

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<v Speaker 4>your engine?

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02:12:09.039 --> 02:12:09.079
<v Speaker 18>No?

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<v Speaker 23>No, that was already done.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but wow, okay, I get it. So he saw

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02:12:15.079 --> 02:12:18.199
<v Speaker 4>that the engine was. He said, the engine was blown

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<v Speaker 4>and he said take it back to Hyundai? Is that right?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes?

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<v Speaker 23>And that's what my son in law did.

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<v Speaker 4>He how many miles on this car? And he how

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<v Speaker 4>many miles on this car?

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<v Speaker 23>Shirleen, forty three thousand?

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<v Speaker 11>And what?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you shouldn't have a blown engine with forty three

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<v Speaker 4>thousand miles on it?

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<v Speaker 23>Definitely not. So there was there was quite a lot

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02:12:47.079 --> 02:12:51.239
<v Speaker 23>of you know, I would call him, I'd say is

2353
02:12:51.319 --> 02:12:54.600
<v Speaker 23>the car done yet? And of course at that time

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02:12:54.680 --> 02:12:55.319
<v Speaker 23>then they called it.

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02:12:55.560 --> 02:12:57.439
<v Speaker 4>You know, what did your son in law say was

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02:12:57.520 --> 02:13:00.319
<v Speaker 4>wrong with the engine? What did he say? Did he say?

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02:13:00.640 --> 02:13:02.399
<v Speaker 4>How he knew it was blown? And what he meant

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<v Speaker 4>by that?

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<v Speaker 23>My son in law I got her husband knew it

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<v Speaker 23>because I guess I'm not I don't remember exactly what

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02:13:12.039 --> 02:13:14.560
<v Speaker 23>it was, but he said you could see that it

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02:13:14.680 --> 02:13:21.920
<v Speaker 23>was bold. So then he, like I said, they took

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02:13:21.960 --> 02:13:22.359
<v Speaker 23>it back.

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<v Speaker 4>All right? Are you trying to get the dealer to

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02:13:25.600 --> 02:13:27.640
<v Speaker 4>fix it right now? Is that where we're at right now?

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02:13:29.279 --> 02:13:31.319
<v Speaker 23>It's been fixed. I finally got it back.

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<v Speaker 1>YEA.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's get to the park that you're calling about then,

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02:13:34.720 --> 02:13:37.079
<v Speaker 4>because we're going through a whole story. I'm not sure.

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02:13:37.119 --> 02:13:40.399
<v Speaker 4>I need to know so right now they fixed it.

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02:13:42.359 --> 02:13:45.960
<v Speaker 23>Yes, they said the engine the new engine were sixteen

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02:13:46.119 --> 02:13:47.000
<v Speaker 23>thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>That's about right.

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<v Speaker 23>Okay. So I got with Sunday and they agreed that

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<v Speaker 23>I would only have to pay eighty percent.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I'm sorry, that's what I would That's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 23>But I didn't get the car rap and turn I remember,

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02:14:07.640 --> 02:14:10.119
<v Speaker 23>and I didn't get allowed as September.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't like Shirlene on. Shirlene, forgive me, and

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02:14:16.479 --> 02:14:19.439
<v Speaker 4>I respect your age. Trust me. I'm not that far away.

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02:14:20.000 --> 02:14:23.479
<v Speaker 4>I need to ask you a question, dear. What are

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02:14:23.560 --> 02:14:24.479
<v Speaker 4>you calling about?

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02:14:25.199 --> 02:14:25.720
<v Speaker 11>So far?

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02:14:26.039 --> 02:14:29.359
<v Speaker 4>It sounds like you're being treated pretty well. What are

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02:14:29.399 --> 02:14:30.239
<v Speaker 4>you calling about?

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02:14:31.760 --> 02:14:33.479
<v Speaker 23>Just the fact that it took him so long?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. And they're paying for eighty percent of

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02:14:37.600 --> 02:14:39.720
<v Speaker 4>an engine on a thirteen year old car.

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02:14:40.000 --> 02:14:42.960
<v Speaker 10>I think your call should have been to compliment Hundi

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02:14:43.199 --> 02:14:47.560
<v Speaker 10>for paying eighty percent of after twelve years.

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<v Speaker 17>Oh my god. What a phenomenal service on the part

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02:14:50.600 --> 02:14:51.039
<v Speaker 17>of Hyundai.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, I mean, oh no, no, listen, Shirlene. I

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02:14:56.520 --> 02:14:58.840
<v Speaker 4>don't want you to feel bad. I think I think

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02:14:58.920 --> 02:15:01.359
<v Speaker 4>you did you really get a brand new engine.

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02:15:03.239 --> 02:15:08.359
<v Speaker 23>Yes, and apparently the engines and that all of the

2397
02:15:08.439 --> 02:15:14.239
<v Speaker 23>car I was just one year out of that. You know, warranty.

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02:15:14.720 --> 02:15:15.479
<v Speaker 2>No, I know that.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that they didn't have to pay anything. I'm

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02:15:20.119 --> 02:15:24.239
<v Speaker 4>still curious. I'm still curious as to why the engine blew.

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02:15:26.760 --> 02:15:31.720
<v Speaker 23>You don't have no idea. Oh I talked to someone

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02:15:31.800 --> 02:15:35.479
<v Speaker 23>there and they said, sometimes that just happens. And you know,

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02:15:35.680 --> 02:15:38.119
<v Speaker 23>I guess that could be an answer.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you the truth, Okay, Shirlene. I have no

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02:15:40.960 --> 02:15:44.000
<v Speaker 4>allegiance to Hyundai or I don't even know what dealer

2406
02:15:44.039 --> 02:15:45.359
<v Speaker 4>we're talking about. What dealer is it?

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<v Speaker 23>Foundation Founding?

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<v Speaker 4>I have no allegiance to any of those. And I'm

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02:15:51.000 --> 02:15:56.039
<v Speaker 4>telling you, Shirlene, if you if you got a brand

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<v Speaker 4>new engine and Hyundai paid eighty percent of it and

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02:16:00.279 --> 02:16:03.000
<v Speaker 4>you only had forty three thousand miles on the body,

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<v Speaker 4>you have a new car.

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<v Speaker 23>Oh, yes, yes, I have a new car because I

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02:16:08.319 --> 02:16:09.159
<v Speaker 23>have a new engine.

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<v Speaker 4>How much go Oh my goodness, listen, Shirlene, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think I could. What were you hoping we would say

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<v Speaker 4>to you, Well.

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<v Speaker 23>You're pretty much taken care of what I wanted to

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02:16:25.399 --> 02:16:28.479
<v Speaker 23>find out. I just needed to find out if if

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<v Speaker 23>I was being if I were treated right, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think you were, Charlene. But it reminds me of a story.

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<v Speaker 4>It really reminds me a story. Whether this woman is

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<v Speaker 4>out in the ocean with her son and he's a

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<v Speaker 4>little boy, and he was swimming and the waves took

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<v Speaker 4>him away, the big giant tidal wave took them away,

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<v Speaker 4>and she looks up to God and says, God, how

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<v Speaker 4>can you do this to me? How could you do this?

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<v Speaker 4>You took my only son. And all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 4>God restores the boy. He comes, He comes, floating back,

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<v Speaker 4>gets up and says mom, Mom, I'm okay. And she

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<v Speaker 4>looks up in heaven and said he had a hat.

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<v Speaker 4>let's talk Joe, Let's get some Okay, So hair restoration,

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't get into that as much, but you do

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<v Speaker 4>the hair transplanting as well as the exosomes, which by

2447
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<v Speaker 4>the way, are part of stem cells, plus their own

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<v Speaker 4>stem cells right right.

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<v Speaker 19>So we have solutions for people with you know, big

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<v Speaker 19>bald areas, We have people solutions for people with thinning hair.

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<v Speaker 19>We can do anything that any other kind of can do,

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<v Speaker 19>So any transplant clinic we can do the same type

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<v Speaker 19>of transplant. What we do that's different, uh, is we

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<v Speaker 19>can use your own stem cells to help restore hair,

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<v Speaker 19>keep your hair from falling out. You know, the most

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<v Speaker 19>important thing that people don't think about with a hair

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<v Speaker 19>transplant is you want to maintain the hair that you

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<v Speaker 19>already have, so you don't just have a hair transplant

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<v Speaker 19>with hair falling out around it. And so one of

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<v Speaker 19>the ways that we do that and make sure that

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<v Speaker 19>that you maintain your hair is by using your own

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<v Speaker 19>stem cells. So a combination of your own stem cells

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<v Speaker 19>on the first treatment, followed up by two more treatments

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<v Speaker 19>at one month intervals. That includes stem cells like what

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<v Speaker 19>you said is a byproduct of exosomes, which is a

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<v Speaker 19>byproduct of stem cells, along with platelets from your blood.

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<v Speaker 19>We'll keep your hair growing and keep it restored and

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<v Speaker 19>keep it from falling out.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. By the way, people, what we were talking

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<v Speaker 4>about when we talk about exosomes, they are as They

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<v Speaker 4>are a great part of the stem cell and they

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<v Speaker 4>do work. Okay, Back when I was saying don't ever

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<v Speaker 4>take stem cells that are shipped to a clinic, we

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<v Speaker 4>were talking about the old days. Exosomes are pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 4>We got more coming. I mean, we'll see you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Save all your problems for me.
