Speaker 1: It's hey, forty here, fifty five KRCD talk station. I
Speaker 1: mentioned going to the break. We have choices, a couple
Speaker 1: of choices. Now for the twenty six Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the fifty five carrec Morning Show. Calumnist and Library and
Speaker 1: at the Cincinnian Inquired George jeff Ces, author of a
Speaker 1: multitude of books we've talked about before. George has been
Speaker 1: on the program. I'm talking about Lost Cincinnati, Hidden History
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Dana Now, and Cincinnati An Illustrated Timeline.
Speaker 1: He's also written on other topics including the Disneylands, Tomorrowland,
Speaker 1: the Bengals, San Francisco forty nine ers. He is a
Speaker 1: resident of White Oak, Cincinnati. Guy he is, although he's
Speaker 1: not originally from here, but he's doing an empower You seminar.
Speaker 1: You can find more information to register and empower you
Speaker 1: America dot org, a seminar on Cincinnati history. Jeff, welcome
Speaker 1: back to the Morning Show. It's good having you back on.
Speaker 2: Oh thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Real quick here. Being a librarian of the city is
Speaker 1: sin Sinna Enquiry. They have their own library there obviously.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we kind of did you know? We have
Speaker 2: all the clip and the photos and things for you know,
Speaker 2: references for the reporters and the copy letters and stuff
Speaker 2: over the years. But when we move buildings about two
Speaker 2: years ago now, we donated our photofiles to the public library,
Speaker 2: and the public libraries digitizing them all. Now they're going
Speaker 2: to be access to the Public's great, a good way
Speaker 2: of the community kind of have better access.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great. Remember having to use microfish back when
Speaker 1: I was a little kid.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, like everything digitized now. Yeah, I can do
Speaker 2: so much research just from sitting at home in my pajamas.
Speaker 2: So you know, I can't argue with that.
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with working from home. Along these lines, well, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you're going to do a seminar empower you America. Now,
Speaker 1: is this going to be live at the two twenty
Speaker 1: five North and Boulevard with log in access from home
Speaker 1: or is this only log in?
Speaker 2: Yeah? To be really honest, I'm not sure. I'm I
Speaker 2: just show up to talk, Okay, Well, but I would
Speaker 2: assume it's going to be as the normal access to normal.
Speaker 1: I just answered my own question. Because the link is
Speaker 1: on my blog page fifty five KC dot com. You
Speaker 1: can register to attend in persin or register to attend virtually,
Speaker 1: so I guess you'll be appearing at two twenty five
Speaker 1: North on Boulevard, oh Since A how far back in
Speaker 1: time do you go? I had a historian friend, we
Speaker 1: called him Bob from Oakley. He wrote books on the
Speaker 1: early Cincinnati area history, early Ohio history. I mean he
Speaker 1: went way way way back, like five thousand years ago
Speaker 1: with the earliest dwellers in our area. How far back
Speaker 1: are you going to start this presentation, Jeff.
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk really more about kind of the
Speaker 2: early European settlers to come in kind of during the
Speaker 2: seventeen sixties seventeen seventies, just because it's more of a
Speaker 2: freme of reference. You know, I don't really I'm not
Speaker 2: a scholar on you know, ancient cultures, and a lot
Speaker 2: of that stuff is still you know, we're finding new
Speaker 2: things out every day, So I'm kind of focusing on
Speaker 2: kind of like early America and how Cincinnati was being
Speaker 2: found at the same time America is starting, and all
Speaker 2: the same forces that are going on. So you have
Speaker 2: those early frontier settlers like Daniel Boone. You know that
Speaker 2: sometimes is surprising to realize that Daniel Boone was a
Speaker 2: real person. And he really did stuff around here. He
Speaker 2: wasn't just a legend. And you know kind of the
Speaker 2: connections to your American history of that kind of the
Speaker 2: Revolutionary War.
Speaker 1: Period, do you talk about how it was that people
Speaker 1: ended up settling here in Cincinnati as opposed to I
Speaker 1: don't know, Ironton or any other town along the Ohio River.
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand the river connection makes perfect sense
Speaker 1: considering that's how trade was conducted. But why Cincinnati, why
Speaker 1: this particular spot on the map.
Speaker 2: Well, they had three settlements all around within a month
Speaker 2: of each other, that were founded in seventeen eighty eight
Speaker 2: and eighty nine. There was Columbia, there was Cincinnati, and
Speaker 2: there was North Bend, and those were kind of the
Speaker 2: major ones, all starting right there six seventeen eighty eight.
Speaker 2: That's also you know, the first election and everything. You know,
Speaker 2: the country is just starting and within a couple of years,
Speaker 2: this whole Ohio Indiana kind of area is called the
Speaker 2: Northwest Territory, and a lot of this was the American Territory,
Speaker 2: and so there's a lot of tension and stuff. So
Speaker 2: they had to build a fort, and for a couple
Speaker 2: of different reasons, Cincinnati was the best location to locate
Speaker 2: the fort, and that was Fort Washington, and we still
Speaker 2: use that name for the freeway across can you know
Speaker 2: for us down freeway access. And so that having Fort
Speaker 2: Washington meant that it was also the center of the
Speaker 2: new county, Hamilton County, and so all of the political things,
Speaker 2: the legal things, the courthouses, everything like that becomes Cincinnati
Speaker 2: becomes the center. And so then as that grows, especially
Speaker 2: compared to the other settlements around, you're drawn to it
Speaker 2: because it's got more established. So you've had more and
Speaker 2: more people, and when you're going out there, most people
Speaker 2: want to be near other people, except Daniel Boone, who
Speaker 2: would get tired of people and go and set something else.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. What just said, hold you over,
Speaker 1: and I do, because what are you asking? How the
Speaker 1: erie erie canal helps solidify Cincinnati. Also a couple of
Speaker 1: other things about this, like Sims Purchase. I live in
Speaker 1: Simms Township, so my township has the name from Sims
Speaker 1: and the Sims Purchase More with Jeff c Ay fifty
Speaker 1: five kerr CE Talk Station. Happy Monday to you. Brian
Speaker 1: Thomas here with Jeff C. Stilling A presentation Thursday empower
Speaker 1: you America dot orgs where you sign up where you
Speaker 1: want to sign up and log in from home or
Speaker 1: alternatively show up at the power you some in our
Speaker 1: studios two twenty five Northland Boulevard, FKA fram USA's building
Speaker 1: Jeff Erie Canal that used to be where Central Parkway
Speaker 1: is now.
Speaker 2: Right correct, Yeah, is the Miami and Erie Canal at
Speaker 2: connected Lake Erie to the Ohio River. And the basic
Speaker 2: idea actually came from George Washington. If you wanted the
Speaker 2: inland waterway system to connect the Great Lakes to the rivers.
Speaker 2: And what that really does is for did is you
Speaker 2: know you have all the goods and services going from
Speaker 2: the north, you know, New York and all that that
Speaker 2: can reach the Great Lakes through the Ohio River to
Speaker 2: the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico. So Cincinnati became
Speaker 2: a key part of that whole connection. But that's surely
Speaker 2: only good until you have railroads that kind of replace
Speaker 2: all of that and do something.
Speaker 1: It's it's an.
Speaker 2: Engineering like a couple of decades. Yeah, it just it
Speaker 2: just is mind blow some remnants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I know, and yeah, and all the locks
Speaker 1: that had to be built, and I just I imagine
Speaker 1: the tremendous labor and expense it was to build it,
Speaker 1: and like you point out, it wasn't that far. You
Speaker 1: fast forward and we don't need it anymore. We got
Speaker 1: the rail system. So it's just I don't know, when
Speaker 1: you look how long and how big it is, I
Speaker 1: mean I just kind of draw parallels. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like building the Panama Canal and maybe even more difficult.
Speaker 1: I don't know did that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was quite lengthy. I mean, there's a
Speaker 2: whole system of it. And luckily, you know, it was
Speaker 2: helped build Cincinnati at the time, and so that's kind
Speaker 2: of helped build build up what we had in the
Speaker 2: different industries and here, so you know it's had its
Speaker 2: use and you know since any benefited from it. And
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, as our Central Parkway is today. So
Speaker 2: if you kind of trace it down the fact, if
Speaker 2: you drive down Central Parkway, there's a couple of murals
Speaker 2: that show what the canal boats look like. So check
Speaker 2: those out.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily checking an egg thing, but was was the
Speaker 1: canal response before I have a connection with us becoming
Speaker 1: porkopolis or will we pork opolists back in those days
Speaker 1: before the Canal.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of both because the canals helped
Speaker 2: be able to transport the you know, pork barrels and
Speaker 2: things around to different places. And what ends up ending
Speaker 2: the pork opolis, of course, is again the railroads, is
Speaker 2: because you could actually take you know, pigs and livestock
Speaker 2: out into the Great Plains and you didn't need to
Speaker 2: be so close to the slaughterhouses and stuff. That's where
Speaker 2: Chicago kind of gotten that from it. So it was, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was kind of hand in hand at that time,
Speaker 2: all right. Well, also about the eighteen forties and fifties,
Speaker 2: I wanted.
Speaker 1: To ask you because I live in Simms Township, the
Speaker 1: Sims Purchase. You'll be speaking about that on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, Yeah. So the Sims purchase was John Cleves Simms.
Speaker 2: He had been a veteran of the Revolutionary War and
Speaker 2: they were offered the opportunity to purchase land and he
Speaker 2: had heard about this area out you know where we
Speaker 2: all are now, and he had the money and everything,
Speaker 2: and he bought about three hundred thousand acres and is
Speaker 2: everything between the two Miami rivers. It's mostly Hamilton, Butler
Speaker 2: and Warren County. And then he was resell it to people.
Speaker 2: So he sold it to the plots of land that
Speaker 2: made Cincinnati, and he settled himself in the North Bend
Speaker 2: and so that's where the name comes up. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 2: his daughter married William Henry Harrison, so he was father
Speaker 2: in law. And so that's why William here Harrison ended
Speaker 2: up in North Bend, just because that's where the family was.
Speaker 1: Well there you go. Leave to Jeff to explain where
Speaker 1: all these little puzzle pieces fit in Jesse and I
Speaker 1: know that we have a very close connection with the
Speaker 1: underground railroad. We were, like you know, we were the
Speaker 1: line between slavery and freedom, and we have a lot
Speaker 1: of deep connection with the underground railroad. I presume that's
Speaker 1: something else you'ld be speaking about on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll touch a bit on it because that's a
Speaker 2: little bit more of the later period. But it's definitely
Speaker 2: a big setup of like you said that you had
Speaker 2: the free territories, but concerning the free states and the
Speaker 2: southern states that had slavery, and the Ohio River was
Speaker 2: kind of that border. And that's why we have so
Speaker 2: many underground railroad conductors these column like Lehigh Coffin and
Speaker 2: John Rankin and John Parker in this area. That's why
Speaker 2: we have the Freedom Center here. They located at the
Speaker 2: Museum in Cincinnati, maybe because of Cincinnati's role in the
Speaker 2: underground railroad. Indeed, that's another big part of since out
Speaker 2: of History all right.
Speaker 1: In terms of format, it begins at seven pm on
Speaker 1: Thursday again two twenty five northn Boulevard. If you want
Speaker 1: to show up live or just log in before that,
Speaker 1: just make sure you register to empower your America dot org.
Speaker 1: Is there going to be any opportunity for Q and A?
Speaker 1: Are you just going to be doing the presentation? I'm
Speaker 1: trying to set the stage for people's expectations.
Speaker 2: I'm I was sure how the system works, and so
Speaker 2: I generally let people ask throughout and then if there's
Speaker 2: time at the end as well. So, yeah, if you
Speaker 2: have questions, you can always email me or or you know,
Speaker 2: I'd be happy to help in any way. We'll see
Speaker 2: how the system works.
Speaker 1: Historian Jeff c is on the Morning Show today and
Speaker 1: he'lle you empower You seven pm on Thursday. Empower your
Speaker 1: America dot Org to log in. Jeff, It's been a
Speaker 1: real pleasure to having you on the program. I hope
Speaker 1: you have a wonderful presentation on Thursday.