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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, Hey guys, Hey guys, Hey guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, hey guys, Hey guys, Yo, guys, Hey guys.

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<v Speaker 3>The episode number forty three of the Steinstein Podcast. Hey Bye,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Donald, I'm Mondold Austin, I'm Austin LONLD.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Morgan Fraightman. And we are on episode number forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three, forty three, forty three yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna divert from our last topic of UFOs

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<v Speaker 1>or more stranger UFOs.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna land the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Mothership's gonna land, and a big old piece of beef's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fall out of it. That's right, folks, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about cattle mutilations. Yeah, cat, we are. We

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<v Speaker 1>are revisiting our original launching topic from September eleventh, two thousand, nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. And it's fitting because you're down in the basement

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<v Speaker 2>where this all struck you for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>This is true. This is the first time I saw

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<v Speaker 1>UFO was out of that window right back there that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't see unless you're watching this on YouTube, which

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<v Speaker 1>you probably won't be because we're not gonna put it

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>Solid This is the town. This is the place. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the vibe that you had when you were thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about cattle mutilations as a youngster.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yep, this is where it all began, right here,

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<v Speaker 1>Twin Falls, Ida. Which we should say once again we

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<v Speaker 1>are recording remotely because I'm down here helping my dad

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<v Speaker 1>and you're up there somewhere doing what you need. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you'd being a dad being a dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just took a drink of a what some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of Irish whiskey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a body gas station coffee cup. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a used coffee cup. It's paper.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get it from?

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<v Speaker 1>Not a gas station? I actually went to this communal uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you call it. It's a place

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<v Speaker 1>where there are a bunch of different restaurants. It's on

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<v Speaker 1>Second Avenue here in Twin Falls, and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>different restaurants in one building, and they have a communal

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<v Speaker 1>citting area. So you go over and you order the food.

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<v Speaker 1>I had ribs, and then afterwards I went over to

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<v Speaker 1>the coffee area and got me a coffee on the

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<v Speaker 1>way home. That's what I did. It's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>neat idea. It's really cool, huh. I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 1>This place. So there's a Mexican restaurant, there's an Italian.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a barbecue place, which is where I went and

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<v Speaker 1>got some ribs, and then there's a sushi restaurant where

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<v Speaker 1>they make pokey bowls in sushi. Then there's a and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's of course the ice cream vendor, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's also a power juice and coffee place.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of sounds like we have up here the village.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a little small center for shopping and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's lots of like food places that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can well, it's kind of like the way that used

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<v Speaker 1>to be. They'd have the food courts in the mall. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then in the middle was a place where you.

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<v Speaker 2>Could also shares with them under yeah, everybody here, that's true,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'd all be able to get your own food

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<v Speaker 2>and then come back to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Except for here, there is no shopping outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>food area. This is all about going there and having

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<v Speaker 1>a food experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought, since we were going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about cat emulations, I better eat me some beef.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I didn't. I had pork pork

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<v Speaker 1>ribs pork ribs. I know I could have got brisket,

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<v Speaker 1>which is beef, but instead ribs sounded good. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to not on some bones.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. I had not on some bones. I

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<v Speaker 2>had some buffalo wings from Alberson's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those are good.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben ate almost a full buffalo wing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he actually had a buffalo wing and he's like two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he ate it. He wanted to bite. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, fine, your problem, I'll give it to you

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<v Speaker 2>and he ate it and then he just kept wanting more.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird so he does not bother that boy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's I think he's a little bit like his dad,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and his grandfather.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, cool, hilarious. Well enough, we're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>more comments like parrot sixty four or sixty nine, whoever

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<v Speaker 1>she was parent? What was she? Uh? Polly, Oh, Polly,

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<v Speaker 1>Polly the parrot, Polly sixty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for those of you that didn't listen to our

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<v Speaker 1>episode two episodes, we've mentioned her every time, so I

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<v Speaker 1>know she's going to go down. She's an infamous.

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<v Speaker 2>Now she's going to be our mascot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of negative reviews. We got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Parrot is our mascot now the astp parrot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Pollie, if you're listening to us now, we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you hated about our podcast, which is rambling about.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you call usnyashnyacks?

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<v Speaker 1>But what did she say? We did?

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<v Speaker 2>We We don't need to tell the waiter our name.

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<v Speaker 1>Quirky. Oh yeah, she said we were quirky. We're being

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<v Speaker 1>quirky right now, so you better not and off we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get more negative reviews.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, so what are we going to talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>Then? Well, you know, we've been talking about UFOs, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about We went from Jane Doe's experience

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<v Speaker 1>with UFOs and then we went into I told a

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<v Speaker 1>hoax story and you told a kind of dramatized, fantabulous story,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the end we kind of talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to migrate that because UFOs are very

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<v Speaker 1>common with cattle mutilations there. They happened at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>so people are seeing UFOs and we thought, hey, perfect

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<v Speaker 1>launch into our maiden episode flashback, right, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it'd be good to update what's been going

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<v Speaker 1>on in cattle mutilation land.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's going to be kind of hard not to

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<v Speaker 2>beat the dead cow. Yeah, we covered quite a bit

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<v Speaker 2>on our first one just to stories and we did

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<v Speaker 2>theories and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we did three episodes when we started. And just

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<v Speaker 1>in review, what do you remember about those episodes two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago? I mean, what what is a cattle mutilation?

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<v Speaker 2>Just off the top of your head, Well, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that it's when a cattle or a cow gets mutilated.

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<v Speaker 2>It usually like all the soft organs are taken out

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<v Speaker 2>and like a lot of the genitalia are removed, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and like semi surgical removal of tissue like around the

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<v Speaker 2>eyes and stuff. And it often happens around people who

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<v Speaker 2>do a lot of meth.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but it does. It happens rapidly. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like we talked about in those episodes, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. If a cow died natural causes whatever, eat

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<v Speaker 1>something something, he falls to the ground, the coyotes get him,

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<v Speaker 1>They tear off the soft tissue, you know, they eat

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<v Speaker 1>his anus, They eat the soft tissue, genitalia, lips, ears,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, anything that's protruding, it's gone. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>know they are continually eaten by bugs and vult jackets

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<v Speaker 1>and all vultures and whatever. And that takes time. But

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that kind of distinguishes cattle mulations from that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of deal is that a lot of times these

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<v Speaker 1>things are reported as happening overnight or in some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in just a few hours, which doesn't let

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of predation work very well.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a not possible for them to do

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<v Speaker 2>that much work in such a short amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know the other thing along with that is

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<v Speaker 1>ranchers are pretty smart people who have cows. Know what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like when a cow dies and that predators get

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<v Speaker 1>a hold of this thing and they chew it up

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. They're smart, they see these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's their territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they know. So I think when a rancher comes

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<v Speaker 1>forward and he says, oh, I found a cow and

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<v Speaker 1>this thing is something's wrong with it, something's weird about

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<v Speaker 1>the way this thing died, I think we got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to them, yeah, or at least give them half

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<v Speaker 2>an year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, benefit of the doubt anyway, because they have experience

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<v Speaker 1>with these kind of things. If something is weird, they

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<v Speaker 1>would know, you know, right. So a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>ranchers reported these strange cattle mutilations starting in like the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies is when this became a hot item, and

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about you know, Linda Moulton Howe mother moo, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, she was somebody who actually was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the initial investigators that started the investigations for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time and in nineteen I believe it was in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy six in Colorado, and she kind of laid

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<v Speaker 1>the groundwork for this whole thing. And then, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>since then, there's been countless numbers. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy nine the study came out and they

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<v Speaker 1>estimated at that time there were ten thousand potential cattle

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<v Speaker 1>mulations in the United States alone. And then we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how it kind of bled over to get it

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<v Speaker 1>bled over, it bled over to other animals like deer

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<v Speaker 1>and horses and other things sheeps, yeah, sheepins. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it was happening all over the world Australia, UK.

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<v Speaker 2>But not Antarctica.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. They have cows there, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know either. The whole thing was just really strange,

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<v Speaker 1>and people talked about UFO encounters. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>there was the one story we told about done and

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<v Speaker 1>I think It was in Logan, Utah, where the sheriff's

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<v Speaker 1>deputies had basically started to realize that when there were

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<v Speaker 1>UFO SI called in that shortly after there would be

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<v Speaker 1>cattle mutilations reported. And so they tracked down these black

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<v Speaker 1>helicopters that were at the local airport, and they actually

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded the helicopter and they jumped.

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<v Speaker 5>Out in mass. Sheriff's deputies converged on the airport. When

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<v Speaker 5>they got there, there were three helicopters on the tarmac

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<v Speaker 5>right by a small plane like a lear jet. The

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<v Speaker 5>cop cars came flying in in an attempt to stop

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<v Speaker 5>the plane from taking off. The plane did not divert

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<v Speaker 5>it kept going and because of that, one of the

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<v Speaker 5>sheriff's deputies crashed his car to get out of the

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<v Speaker 5>way so that it wasn't destroyed by the aircraft ticking off. Crazy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so where do Meanwhile, the other cops are surrounding these

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<v Speaker 5>black helicopters, and they noticed when they pulled up that

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<v Speaker 5>one of the guys got out of the black helicopter

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<v Speaker 5>with a silver briefcase, went up to the plane right

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<v Speaker 5>before it took off and handed it to somebody in

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<v Speaker 5>the cockpit. Then the plane took off, caused the crash

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<v Speaker 5>of the sheriff's deputy, and then the other cops converged

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<v Speaker 5>on the two black helicopters and there was like a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of a standoff, and the deputy or maybe

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<v Speaker 5>it was even the sheriff basically put his hands on

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<v Speaker 5>the individual in the coveralls and was like basically patting

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<v Speaker 5>him to see if he hadn dog tags or anything,

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<v Speaker 5>thinking it was like some kind of military operation. As

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<v Speaker 5>soon as he did that, people that were in the

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<v Speaker 5>helicopter immediately fixated on him, and he felt like he

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<v Speaker 5>would be killed if he tried to arrest this guy.

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<v Speaker 5>So they basically backed off and let the helicopters take off,

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<v Speaker 5>and then all of the cattle mutilations and all of

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<v Speaker 5>the black helicopter UFO sidings ceased in that area, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of creepy. It's creepy. So there's like all

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<v Speaker 1>this weird stuff around cattle emulations that for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was raised out here in southern Idaho, and

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<v Speaker 1>in and I thought, you know what, let's revisit this

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<v Speaker 1>because honestly, I haven't been keeping my eyes open for

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of cattle mulations, have you? Not so much?

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<v Speaker 2>No, every time I see something on Facebook every once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while to pop up, or somebody in our

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<v Speaker 2>little Facebook group or something else, you know, mention this

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<v Speaker 2>in a comment or Texas or something like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we did a recording up in the woods. Yeah, strange

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, guys, and welcome to our nice little campfire in

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<v Speaker 7>This is our fourth episode and our second topic, which

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<v Speaker 7>A strange thing in the woods.

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<v Speaker 6>And guess what we're in the woods? We are in

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<v Speaker 6>the woods. Oh, that's what these trees are doing here,

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<v Speaker 6>the mountains on Friday the thirteenth, around the campfire by

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<v Speaker 6>a full moon. By a full moon on Friday the thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 6>out of campfire walking at Scotch with Scotch and Irish death. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and talking about a strange thing in the woods, out

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<v Speaker 6>of cell phone range, out in the middle of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 6>in the woods, around a campfire, enjoying a barley pop

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<v Speaker 6>or beer. Some people would like to call it. I

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<v Speaker 4>Don't you want to head down to the hip of

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<v Speaker 4>a hop, grab a bartypie and get a part? Didn't

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<v Speaker 4>you grab that? He just grabbed him off and was

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<v Speaker 1>And we were doing that. And that was right after

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<v Speaker 1>we heard about another outbreak of cattle mutilations in organ

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>And we thought it was kind of weird how we

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<v Speaker 2>just started talking about it, and then next thing we know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this outbreak of cattle mutilations.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because in my mind, you know, everything that had

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<v Speaker 1>occurred around cattle mutilations had happened like the late seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>right when I was a little kid, And so all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, when we started talking about this on

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<v Speaker 1>our first three episodes and then in the mainstream news,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, on the front page of the papers, was

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<v Speaker 1>like an organ three bulls had been mutilated in September

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty nineteen, crazy and we were we were like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>this is weird. Maybe this will make people want to

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<v Speaker 2>We summoned, Yeah, yeah, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>In tune with the universe. Who loves beef? I love beef? Me?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, well, we did those episodes and then, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of just let it slip away. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>done any research, have you heard anything interesting? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that you want to like just throw out there

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I did a little bit of research on

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<v Speaker 2>some cattle mutilation stories, and oh good. It ended up

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<v Speaker 2>kind of being just like an interesting background story of

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<v Speaker 2>a guy too, not just the the cattle mutilation that

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting. That this whole I thought, this whole story

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of good and hopefully I can use my

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<v Speaker 2>notes good enough to actually tell a good story.

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<v Speaker 1>But is this going to be a dramatic reading.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so. It's gonna be a little

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<v Speaker 2>more off the cuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, oh dude, this would be like an awesome

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic reading if you could kind of take on the

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<v Speaker 1>persona of a Western cow rancher.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell the story western. I don't know how people from

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<v Speaker 2>the west. Well, you got people from the West, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you talk with a little bit of a drawl,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe you could be from No, that's Louisiana. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to do like Texas. Hey, y'all, I was out

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<v Speaker 1>on the North forty and all of a sudden, Albert

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<v Speaker 1>the Hill came to Ufo and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Saw the South Texas to me, I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 2>a Southern bell like some girl in Georgia. Just a

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia peach, sweet as asshole. That's what you sounded like.

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<v Speaker 1>I sounded, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I picture a guy talking like this, like Sam Elliott.

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<v Speaker 1>The distances aren't getting shorter, Beef for dinner are going far.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Matthew Mcconaugheyhi, I can just tell this whole

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<v Speaker 2>story right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just tell your story. Maybe don't do the dramatic thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to do now. You put me

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<v Speaker 2>on a spot guy. Yep, So in May twenty second,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty one, and Aberdeen, Washington, Aberdeen. That can't be

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<v Speaker 2>too far from where we're at. No, I mean in

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<v Speaker 2>this Western states right within six hundred miles within six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred miles from where we are. As we sit, a

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<v Speaker 2>fellow was born by the name of Brian Lloyd Danielson,

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<v Speaker 2>but he kind of goes by the name Daniel Brian

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<v Speaker 2>as he grows up. And he was kind of, you know, typical,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of Northwest kid. I think his father was a lumberjack,

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<v Speaker 2>and his dad went by the name of Buddy, Buddy Lumberjack,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But his dad's actual name was Donald.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Leap. I think I'd rather be called Buddy too,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of follow his dad's job around like Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple other places Utah, And eventually, after moving

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<v Speaker 2>to Utah, his parents get a divorce because his father

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<v Speaker 2>was an alcoholic and it wasn't a good family dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a sister too, so him and his mom

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<v Speaker 2>and his sister moved back to Washington. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>moved right back to Aberdeen where they were from. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like and I'm kind of setting up some credibility.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like he was a normal kid in school.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a little bit shy, but he loves sports and

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<v Speaker 2>like track and football and stuff, and he was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with wrestling and especially like professional wrestling. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was kind of funny because we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about cattle mutilations. But to kind of help support his

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<v Speaker 2>single mom when he was growing up in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>he actually worked at a McDonald's. Yeah, there's probably a

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<v Speaker 2>little cattle mulation going on at the old.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think that's kangaroo kangaroo meat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't know. King room meet's pretty popular,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess because there's a lot of kangaroos, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of McDonald's hamburger's being sold.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I've set up. He's a normal dude,

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<v Speaker 2>good at sports, good at school, pretty shy, but he

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<v Speaker 2>works at McDonald's. He's a good guy. He's not like

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<v Speaker 2>some looney tune trailer park boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, trailer park, What is it with you in trailer parks?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you have against trader parks other than that

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<v Speaker 1>they're tornado magnets? What's wrong with the trailer park?

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<v Speaker 4>So he, uh, he does.

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<v Speaker 2>He does good in school, and he graduates, and right

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<v Speaker 2>when he graduates, he goes to the how fitting the

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Wrestling Academy in San Antonio, Texas Wrestling he goes

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<v Speaker 2>to a wrestling academy, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a wrestler, not a cattle wrestler.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not a not a wrestler, a wrestler.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a wrestler.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, he's a wrestler. So so he goes into

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<v Speaker 2>basically an academy to learn how to be proficient in

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<v Speaker 2>wearing weird clothes and.

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<v Speaker 1>Rolling around on other men.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, he becomes pretty famous pretty quickly. And he

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<v Speaker 2>actually tours with like WWE and all these bigger Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got names like the American Dragon and like cool

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<v Speaker 2>guy names, you know what I'm saying. He becomes pretty famous,

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<v Speaker 2>tours all over the States, Japan. It's kind of known

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<v Speaker 2>for like having these little tight shorty shorts.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, he had a long successful career and was

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<v Speaker 2>known for being like kind of a submission artist, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like submitting his foes. And he was known for his

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<v Speaker 2>bridging double chicken wing submission.

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<v Speaker 1>How cool is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Sound?

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds pretty good? Cool? Who's that famous jiu jitsu guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Gracy Gracy? Yeah, it's kind of like Gracie.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess so, but kind of okay, but more faker

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<v Speaker 2>because it's w W E stuff. Right, But then this

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<v Speaker 2>is where one fateful night, Daniel Bryan was hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>with a fellow wrestler named CM Punk. I'm assuming that's

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<v Speaker 2>not his real name. Probably it probably goes by the

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<v Speaker 2>name CM punk. And they witness, with hundreds of other people,

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<v Speaker 2>an actual cattle mutilation in progress. What really, Yeah, in progress?

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<v Speaker 2>So CM punk is laying down kind of on his face,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, on his chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, wait, wait a minute, were they outside inside? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I'm having all these visuals but

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<v Speaker 1>no descriptions. You're not giving me any information visual I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it, like the description, because there's not I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a wrestler, not a writer. I'm assuming it was

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<v Speaker 1>inside outside.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming they were inside somehow weird A CM punk

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<v Speaker 2>guy's resting kind of face down, like looking at the ground. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>his head's kind of off to the side, I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 2>because he's got.

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<v Speaker 1>To have his head up at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and uh and and Brian actually mounts his back

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<v Speaker 2>and hooks both of his arms over his shoulders and

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<v Speaker 2>up under his armpits. Sure, and he's actually kind of

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<v Speaker 2>lifting CM puff up off the ground by over his

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<v Speaker 2>shoulders with his arms and up under his armpits. Then

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<v Speaker 2>Brian does kind of a handstand up on his head,

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<v Speaker 2>flips over backwards and lifts his arches his back up

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a full nelson, but backwards like a

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<v Speaker 2>sixty nine full nelson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can see that.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's got seeing punk in this submission hold that

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately won him the match, and I believe the title.

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<v Speaker 2>And that move, that bridging double chicken wing is known

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<v Speaker 2>as a cattle mutilation.

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<v Speaker 1>What so so, there is no cattle mulation other than

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<v Speaker 1>the move.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the move, it's called the cattle mutilation. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't sentimental to Brian's career.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't see any cattle mutilation. They just made a

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<v Speaker 2>Watched hundreds of people watched it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but there was no cow involved.

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<v Speaker 2>See him punks turned into Hamburger.

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<v Speaker 1>Should known you were going to do a story like that.

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<v Speaker 1>See I let my guard down. I kind of get

424
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<v Speaker 1>sucked in. I want more visual information because I'm like,

425
00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:58.799
<v Speaker 1>how is this guy going to see this? And why

426
00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:01.880
<v Speaker 1>is he on a mat the outside? How did the

427
00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:05.039
<v Speaker 1>UFO get in there? I mean, what black helicopters, what's

428
00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:08.119
<v Speaker 1>going on? And then it's just the name of a

429
00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:13.359
<v Speaker 1>move that he's famous for in professional wrestling.

430
00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:20.319
<v Speaker 2>He had cool names like Inferno, Dynamic Dragon. He's also

431
00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:22.759
<v Speaker 2>five foot ten and two and ten pounds. He's a

432
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:23.799
<v Speaker 2>pretty stocky boy.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Well whatever, I'm deflated.

434
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<v Speaker 4>I tried.

435
00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:34.079
<v Speaker 2>I tried. I tried to find cattle mutilation information, and

436
00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:35.960
<v Speaker 2>it's all the same stuff we've talked about.

437
00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:37.119
<v Speaker 1>It is kind of the same.

438
00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:39.519
<v Speaker 2>So it's like I wanted to throw in a little zest,

439
00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:40.400
<v Speaker 2>a little.

440
00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Spice, and it's well, I'm gonna throwing a little zest,

441
00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:48.599
<v Speaker 1>a little spice spice home. So two years ago we

442
00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:51.880
<v Speaker 1>had talked about that in the county right here where

443
00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I am in Twin Falls, Io, in Twin Falls County,

444
00:23:54.160 --> 00:23:58.160
<v Speaker 1>there had been three cows killed and two of them

445
00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:01.799
<v Speaker 1>had been mutilated in the South Hills. Now, the South

446
00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Hills are just a mire ten miles to the south

447
00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.680
<v Speaker 1>of where I sit. Right now, you can see him

448
00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:10.519
<v Speaker 1>where you can see it. And I tried to get

449
00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>information from the local sheriff's department to find out some

450
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:17.039
<v Speaker 1>information and maybe get a hold of the you know,

451
00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the actual police report and maybe some pictures of the mutilations,

452
00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>but the investigation was ongoing, so they couldn't give me

453
00:24:24.759 --> 00:24:28.519
<v Speaker 1>anything until it had been closed. Well, it's still ongoing,

454
00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I checked. So now you're on the watch list right probably,

455
00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 1>so you know, if you want to tie up information,

456
00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>just don't close the case.

457
00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I can just I can just picture it right now.

458
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<v Speaker 2>You walk into that cafeteria place you were talking about. Yeah,

459
00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:47.799
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, what's he doing. He's heading on over

460
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:51.400
<v Speaker 2>to the meat stand, the barbecue stand, all right, ten

461
00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:54.759
<v Speaker 2>for keep an eye on what he orders. He's looking

462
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<v Speaker 2>at the minion now, sir, all right, is that a

463
00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:01.440
<v Speaker 2>number ten? What's the number ten? Not the brisket, sir,

464
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:04.880
<v Speaker 2>it is the pork ribs. I think we're okay, all right,

465
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:06.960
<v Speaker 2>ten to four roll out, Yeah, something like that.

466
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<v Speaker 1>Well, because there was no new information on that mutilation

467
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that took place just a mere two years ago, I thought, hey,

468
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I've got a motorcycle. It's a dual sport. I'll get

469
00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:19.839
<v Speaker 1>on the trail and i'll buy it on over there

470
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.599
<v Speaker 1>to the location and where these things actually took place.

471
00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I had the GPS coordinates and I also had Google Maps,

472
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:29.400
<v Speaker 1>so I was able to pinpoint where it was, and

473
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>I took off. It took me about an hour hour

474
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:34.759
<v Speaker 1>and a half to ride over there. It was a

475
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:37.480
<v Speaker 1>terrible road the way I went. I went up over

476
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the mountain instead of around it, and I found myself

477
00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:45.680
<v Speaker 1>in the dead center of the location where the cows

478
00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>were mutilated, kailed dead center. And what I found was that,

479
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to put pictures up there so you

480
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>can see the kind of the environment that I was in.

481
00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:59.799
<v Speaker 1>What I found is that that area is totally in

482
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<v Speaker 1>an dated with open range cattle and it's just an

483
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>open place. It's blm land, and ranchers can take their

484
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:10.519
<v Speaker 1>cattle herds up there and they can let them wander

485
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:13.119
<v Speaker 1>around and eat the grass and basically they save on

486
00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:16.920
<v Speaker 1>feed and then when it gets cold about now in November,

487
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:20.799
<v Speaker 1>they pull them out and take them to the corrals

488
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:24.079
<v Speaker 1>in their ranch. One thing that struck me while I

489
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>was there is that you could put a lot of

490
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>cows in those areas. I mean, it's just vast, it's

491
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>just vast and empty.

492
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<v Speaker 2>And.

493
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:38.319
<v Speaker 1>So the access to cattle is just huge, and I

494
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of got wondering about that. It's like, you know,

495
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.759
<v Speaker 1>this wasn't some remote spot where there was a sparse

496
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>population of cows. This is where there were hundreds, maybe

497
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:52.440
<v Speaker 1>thousands of cattle out there eating. These mutilations took place

498
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.759
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of that. That kind of negates the

499
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:58.599
<v Speaker 1>possibility that a predator got in the midst of that

500
00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>herd into one or two cows out if they would,

501
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>they would take the week, right, Like, if you're a predator,

502
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you go for the week and injured animal, not to

503
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:13.799
<v Speaker 1>find specimens like bulls or you know, fully grown cows.

504
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>And so while I was there, I was thinking about

505
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:18.839
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, and I took some pictures and then

506
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>came back from home and just chewed on it for

507
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:25.799
<v Speaker 1>a while. And then not too long ago, I was

508
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.400
<v Speaker 1>listening to a podcast and they were talking about cattle

509
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:31.759
<v Speaker 1>mutilations a little bit. You know, they touched on it

510
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>in association with this mad cow disease and got me thinking,

511
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of why I had talked to you about, Hey,

512
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and talk about cattle mulations again, because

513
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to steer this conversations toward these weird things

514
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that might possibly be the impetus or the reason why

515
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 1>cows are mutilated in the first place.

516
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 2>So you have nefarious plan in all of this.

517
00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I have a plan, I have a direction we're gonna go.

518
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>But we had some really cool ideas of what cattle

519
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 1>emulations were when we first started. Do you remember any

520
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of those, any of those ticking your head?

521
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:13.839
<v Speaker 2>Vandalism or like you know, people being mean, slash like

522
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>cultic culture, sacrifices stuff. I think we lumped those two together.

523
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>The other one would be like testing, like government secret

524
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 2>testing of weapons or environmental health, you know, like nuclear

525
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.799
<v Speaker 2>bomb and pack I don't know. And then I think

526
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>some of them were just misunderstandings. Yeah, basically the same

527
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:37.920
<v Speaker 2>things we said about UFOs.

528
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's a.

529
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Hoax or something. It's a misunderstanding where it's a government

530
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:49.799
<v Speaker 2>thing or it's an actual extra supernatural paranormal extraterrestrial type paranormal.

531
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's weird. I hadn't thought about that,

532
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>but that's really true. They do kind of line up

533
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:55.079
<v Speaker 1>that way.

534
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:56.839
<v Speaker 2>I do parallel a little bit.

535
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 1>There's some parallelism which fits. I mean, almost everything we've

536
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>talked about has severe parallelism, paralleloa low parallela, parallel lads, parallelisms,

537
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>parallel parallelisms.

538
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:16.839
<v Speaker 2>That's hard to say parallel.

539
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well anyway, no matter how you pronounce it. I mean,

540
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>there are these things that are similar across the board,

541
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>and most people don't want to think about it. But

542
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>there's something really weird going on. It's not like there

543
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 1>are one or two things that have happened that people

544
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, build up and like blow out

545
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 1>of proportionation. We're talking especially since the nineteen seventies. There

546
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 1>are hundreds of thousands of reports of mutilated cows in

547
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>similar fashion right now. In that same time, there have

548
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>been millions and millions of cattle deaths, natural cattle deaths

549
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.559
<v Speaker 1>that don't get reported. So once again you're faced with this.

550
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's an echotomy. It's an inconvenient fact that

551
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:11.279
<v Speaker 1>ranchers and cattle owners aren't reporting deaths that are natural

552
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 1>as cattle mutilations. They're only reporting the cows that have

553
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>been killed unnaturally. Yeah, weird, weird that have been dissected,

554
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that have been mutilated. That obviously, there's something extra normal

555
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:31.559
<v Speaker 1>about the way these things have happened. Extra normal, extra normal, paranormal,

556
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:34.559
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it. And the question is

557
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.519
<v Speaker 1>what is it and why is it happening? Right now?

558
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Out of all of those maybe, you know, hundreds of

559
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>thousands of animals that are reported as mutilated cattle, a

560
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:50.759
<v Speaker 1>good percentage of you know, maybe the majority of them

561
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>are explainable.

562
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's that many hundreds of thousands easier reported?

563
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Easy? If there were? If there were ten thousands in

564
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:02.559
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy nine. Oh, I see in like all times

565
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>in the United States before you know, they were really

566
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>tracking worldwide. Since then, how many are there and how

567
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>many have actually been reported? And how many just people

568
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.559
<v Speaker 1>don't report because they don't want the hubub that goes

569
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>with it? Yeah, Yeah, So it's a it's it's a

570
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>big deal. It's a weird deal. And the question is

571
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>why and why did this stuff start ramping up around

572
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, the nineteen seventies. What is it? What's the cause?

573
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Why all of a sudden did then things start to

574
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>take off? And why did people start seeing UFOs in

575
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventies associated with these things and black helicopters

576
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.119
<v Speaker 1>and other kinds of weird things. Why did they start

577
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:46.319
<v Speaker 1>seeing that in the nineteen seventies when really the UFO

578
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>phenomenon started in the nineteen forties, with the late nineteen

579
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:54.599
<v Speaker 1>forties with Roswell. So there are these weird connections that

580
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:55.839
<v Speaker 1>you kind of stick out.

581
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>So do you think there's a correlation between so you

582
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.480
<v Speaker 2>have like the sixties and seventies, which what they call

583
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:04.440
<v Speaker 2>that the kind of like the time of love or whatever.

584
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the love generation, what do they.

585
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Call that generational?

586
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 1>The hippie generation in the sixties and seventies.

587
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Correlation between people having like a little more hallucinogenic, hallucinogenic

588
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.440
<v Speaker 2>and venturous sexual appetites. That there's this weird cattle mutilation thing.

589
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knows? Who knows? I mean, I don't

590
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:31.160
<v Speaker 1>know your your hypothesis is as good as anybody else's,

591
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess, but it doesn't you know, you your mind

592
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 1>wants an answer, right, you know? And that the honest

593
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>truth is, since this didn't really go mainstream and it's

594
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>still not mainstream, people just kind of don't even want

595
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>to think about it or even know about it.

596
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it sounds so gross. Cattle mutilation. What is

597
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>anytime you hear the word mutilation is kind of ikey?

598
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, it totally is gross. Okay, So I'd asked

599
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you what some of the the causes where for this?

600
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>We never finished that you know thought. My favorite, I'm

601
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>going to jump ahead here. My favorite was that is

602
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>that maybe aliens were using cattle as surrogate mothers for

603
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot bodies that were basically a synthetic body that could

604
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>be inhabited by either a spirit, you know, or an alien.

605
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, And I love that. I was gonna mention that,

606
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't because I thought we were sticking with

607
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:33.279
<v Speaker 2>serious stuff.

608
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Well I love that. I love that because it kind

609
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>of there is a lot of you know, okay, we're

610
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.559
<v Speaker 1>not going to Bigfoot yet here, but here's the tie

611
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.839
<v Speaker 1>into Bigfoot. There's a lot of reports that Bigfoot maybe

612
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>he's like a cow. He's like he's a dumb, big creature,

613
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.839
<v Speaker 1>but for whatever reason, he's not like real flesh and blood.

614
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>He has these tendencies to be able to kind of

615
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>like fade in and fade out of our our dimension

616
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>or time frame, so if like you shoot him, it

617
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.759
<v Speaker 1>doesn't affect him, you know, whatever it is. There's weird

618
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff about Bigfoot. And then you have the story of

619
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>like the guy who goes out and finds the cow

620
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 1>that was mutilated and out of it was being born

621
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a He called it a Bigfoot baby.

622
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said it has a cow. It was like

623
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>a cow with a man face.

624
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, having a you know, basically having a baby sasquatch, right,

625
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 1>and then he runs back to the house and when

626
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:29.599
<v Speaker 1>he comes back the next morning, it's gone. It's all gone.

627
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean that kind of story is awesome. Yeah, if

628
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>you want to hear that story, you got to go

629
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:39.519
<v Speaker 1>back and listen to our first three episodes. I love

630
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. And once we decided to kind of revisit

631
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>this topic, I just did a real cursory search on

632
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>up to date cattle mutilation reports, and you know what's

633
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:56.840
<v Speaker 1>really weird. It's like really happening all over the place. Again,

634
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>It's happening all of the United States and in other

635
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>countries too, and it's not like one or two in Oregon.

636
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:08.599
<v Speaker 1>Since twenty nineteen, since we did that podcast, there have

637
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:14.639
<v Speaker 1>been thirteen reported cattle mulations. That's not including the three

638
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:18.760
<v Speaker 1>bowls that we talked about in our initial podcast. In

639
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Wheeler County there have been I think there's seven cattle

640
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:26.360
<v Speaker 1>mulations that have been reported in the same area in

641
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Wheeler County alone. Now Wheeler County, the Sheriff's Department there

642
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>has a Facebook page and you can go there and

643
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>scroll down and you'll find pictures of these cattle mutilations

644
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:41.199
<v Speaker 1>in you know, basically the Sheriff's department is asking for

645
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>help and solving these things. Right, it's weird. And that's

646
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>just in Wheeler County and in other counties. There was

647
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 1>like another seven in a different county. At the top

648
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 1>of my head, I don't remember which one, but they

649
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>all have the same telltale science part of the jaw removed,

650
00:35:56.519 --> 00:36:01.599
<v Speaker 1>ear removed, eyeball gone, genitalia cut off off, teats cut off,

651
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 1>or the whole utter is removed.

652
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>It's all utterly just removed.

653
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Utterly disgusting. It's found in locations where they look like

654
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>they've been dropped rather than that they were killed or

655
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 1>died there. Yeah, there aren't any prints of like predators.

656
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>In fact, predators kind of avoid the animals, like maybe

657
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.800
<v Speaker 1>there's something about the carcasses that they don't want to

658
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>touch or eat. They know that it smells bad or something.

659
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>There's some kind of weird thing there. And my question

660
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 1>is why, Well, that's everybody's question. I know, it's a

661
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.639
<v Speaker 1>great question. That's you know, it shows how smart I

662
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>am that I asked the same question everybody else does

663
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Why is this going on, Who's doing it? And what's

664
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>the end game? Is there one? Is it for fun?

665
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 1>Is malicious? Is it satanic colts that are using the

666
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 1>genitalia for some kind of fertility rites or or some

667
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of hecks that they're going to put on people's

668
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 1>penis so they can't get any erection and the pleasure

669
00:36:57.159 --> 00:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>their girlfriend.

670
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Or wife very or boyfriend or husband. It's very specific.

671
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:04.559
<v Speaker 4>You know.

672
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to throw things out there, get people

673
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>thinking about things that they shouldn't. So, you know what's

674
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 1>really weird is you boil the whole thing down to it.

675
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 1>You know. I was kind of looking for maybe some

676
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:21.320
<v Speaker 1>unique story, but the problem is all of the stories

677
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.119
<v Speaker 1>are strange and they're basically the same. Which is right.

678
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Rancher goes out in the morning after seeing has heard

679
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>the day before, discovers that his prize bowl or cow

680
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.599
<v Speaker 1>or you name it is dead and mutilated. That's the story.

681
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:36.760
<v Speaker 2>That's the sum of it.

682
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, over and over and over again.

683
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So let's with the telltale signs that we've discussedg nauseum.

684
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's mutilated. And when I say mutilated, that takes

685
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:50.800
<v Speaker 1>in those elements that We've already talked about if it

686
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 1>was one cow, that's one thing, But we're talking a

687
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of times. It's in the same county, and it's

688
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>happened four or five, six, seven times, and it's enough

689
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.559
<v Speaker 1>so that the law enforcement is no longer saying, oh,

690
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 1>this is some kid doing something stupid, or this is

691
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.559
<v Speaker 1>like some predator kind of thing. But they're obviously seeing

692
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:10.639
<v Speaker 1>this batter and they're going, wait, something else is going

693
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>on here? What is it? Please help us? People don't know.

694
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows, So I want to ask the question, what

695
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.039
<v Speaker 1>is it that nobody knows what is causing these things?

696
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>What are some of the hypotheses of what these are?

697
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>We talked about some of them earlier. Some of them

698
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>are you know, fanciful and fantasyland type of stuff. But

699
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>if we were going to get pragmatic and we were

700
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.559
<v Speaker 1>going to get really serious and we were going to

701
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 1>put on our logical brain hats and say, hey, what

702
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 1>could be causing this and why what could those be?

703
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any ideas? I mean, if you were

704
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>going to go logical here and not be you know,

705
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:56.559
<v Speaker 1>overly sensational or trying to be you know, weird or

706
00:38:56.679 --> 00:39:01.559
<v Speaker 1>paranoid or paranormal, what could this be? Just sort out there.

707
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:04.159
<v Speaker 2>If you have, I'm gonna stick with my normal thing,

708
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>and it's that it's just nature being nature. The organs

709
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:15.480
<v Speaker 2>and all that flesh in the areas that we're talking about,

710
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the ears, the eyes, those things are first to go

711
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:21.480
<v Speaker 2>with scavenger animals, Yeah, that's and predators.

712
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 1>That's where my brain goes first too.

713
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:25.480
<v Speaker 2>But if it's not like a mountain lion, it's not

714
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:29.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna cut an incision across the stomach and deballot It's

715
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna kind of rem its way through from the soft area,

716
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:36.440
<v Speaker 2>which will be the rear end. So it's not gonna

717
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna be like a cut in a deboweling thing.

718
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:44.519
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be kind of a more gross, vicious And

719
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:48.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you're a hunter or whatever, there's

720
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:52.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of only a few ways animals come apart. So

721
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:56.880
<v Speaker 2>you can start at one end and work your way

722
00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:00.280
<v Speaker 2>to the other side, and it's gonna come apart that

723
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.679
<v Speaker 2>way pretty easy. Maybe you go backwards, it's not as simple.

724
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's kind of what nature does is

725
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 2>is that's why that's why we do it as hunters.

726
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:14.519
<v Speaker 2>And I think that animals do that naturally because that's

727
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.639
<v Speaker 2>soft going towards the skull and the spine and the neck,

728
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 2>and that's all hard, so where they work there themselves

729
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:24.599
<v Speaker 2>that way, And I think that's what happens. And then

730
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.079
<v Speaker 2>you you put some fresh meat out in the sun

731
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:33.119
<v Speaker 2>for even an hour, and it becomes very viscous and

732
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:38.320
<v Speaker 2>like rounded. Everything kind of shrinks because blood, blood flow

733
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:39.360
<v Speaker 2>stops and everything.

734
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.760
<v Speaker 1>So I think that it's an organ and it's moist

735
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:47.559
<v Speaker 1>and damp and not hot and rainy. I don't think

736
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I you know, Okay, so I'm agreen with you. I

737
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>think what you're saying is absolutely true. Let's you say

738
00:40:56.039 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 1>it's absolutely true for ninety five percent of the reported

739
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:01.880
<v Speaker 1>things that I did.

740
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:04.199
<v Speaker 2>I bet that's the case.

741
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it's natural or maybe even there's a little

742
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:13.159
<v Speaker 1>nefarious activity. Kids being stupid accidentally kill a cow, go

743
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.679
<v Speaker 1>out and cut it up. Whatever rain comes and washes

744
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>away the footprints and nobody sees it. The fluids sink

745
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of the body cavity, so you don't notice,

746
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and it looks like they're, you know, totally devoid of blood,

747
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>which is another yeah, which is another sign that a

748
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of the carcasses have no blood. It's like they've

749
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:34.159
<v Speaker 1>been drained of all their blood.

750
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've let.

751
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>The things that that are also there. That that doesn't

752
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.360
<v Speaker 1>explain is why are a lot of these animals dropped

753
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>in locations that looks like they've been dropped from the

754
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.400
<v Speaker 1>air where there's not a really good way for them

755
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:52.079
<v Speaker 1>to get there? And uh, and then also why isn't

756
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>there more of the predatory kind of attack on the

757
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>on the carcass.

758
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.039
<v Speaker 2>That's the one that got me. I was the first

759
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:06.360
<v Speaker 2>time we did cattle mutilation episodes. I was just googling

760
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.119
<v Speaker 2>some cattle mutilation stuff and I think it was sheep

761
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 2>that were getting mutilated and they found them in trees, yeah,

762
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:18.599
<v Speaker 2>she And I thought that was interesting because.

763
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Someone even on power lines.

764
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, power line is insane. A sheep or something I

765
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:27.039
<v Speaker 2>could say is like a mountain lion because they do

766
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.679
<v Speaker 2>like drag stuff up in the trees sometimes they Yeah, sure,

767
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:34.880
<v Speaker 2>a power line. I don't know about that.

768
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I know it's weird. It is so weird to see

769
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.960
<v Speaker 1>those pictures. And if you don't know what we're talking about,

770
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>just google mutilation. It will come up.

771
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't do it with a squeamish stummach no.

772
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>And I know a lot of our listeners are going

773
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to be like, why the heck are you talking about this? So, actually,

774
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:51.639
<v Speaker 1>we have an in game where I have an in

775
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>game I've been thinking about this and it ties into

776
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:59.119
<v Speaker 1>my current situation. So I'm here in Twin Falls and

777
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm helping my dad who is having memory issues. And

778
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can call it dementia, you can call

779
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 1>it Alzheimer's, you can call it any kind of name,

780
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 1>but basically, for a lot of people, as they age,

781
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:16.559
<v Speaker 1>they cannot remember, and eventually that lack of memory gets

782
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 1>so bad that they don't remember how to even live

783
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:24.760
<v Speaker 1>or eat, and it's terminal. So I'm dealing with that,

784
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and I found this kind of connection to a possible

785
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 1>explanation of what cattle emulations are and the situation that

786
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 1>I find myself in right now in helping my dad

787
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>who's struggling with his memory. And that's a really weird connection,

788
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.159
<v Speaker 1>it is, And I know it sounds really weird.

789
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:47.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's probably honestly one of the most realistic ones.

790
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think so. I think there's a

791
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:54.119
<v Speaker 1>little bit of logic involved and a little bit of conspiracy,

792
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>but maybe not a lot of supernatural or paranormal, which,

793
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>in one sense of the word kind of makes me

794
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.559
<v Speaker 1>a little bit sad because I'd rather it be something

795
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 1>right normal and supernatural because I like that stuff. But

796
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I find it almost, if not more so interesting, right exactly.

797
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 1>So I thought, you know, let's kind of go that direction.

798
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 1>We won't get all the way there, and I think

799
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>on the next podcast we'll talk about the connection and

800
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>then maybe even to an episode on on what it's

801
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>like to lose your mind, to lose your memory. I

802
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>think that would be an interesting episode because I know

803
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 1>there are thousands and thousands of people out there that

804
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:41.639
<v Speaker 1>are dealing with this, yeah, and or have family members

805
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.239
<v Speaker 1>that are dealing with this, and you know, I think

806
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.559
<v Speaker 1>it would be really interesting to go through that. But that's,

807
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe two episodes down the line. Okay, So

808
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 1>back to cattle mulations. We're going to start bridging the gap.

809
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 2>So I see where you're going now, because we've had

810
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:58.960
<v Speaker 2>these discussions in your hot tub and stuff like that.

811
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, always good.

812
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm picking up what you're laying down. I'm smelling the

813
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:06.920
<v Speaker 2>cow turn they're seeing.

814
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:09.559
<v Speaker 1>You're seeing the logic behind my brilliance.

815
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 2>A little bit. Yeah, because I don't like I don't

816
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:13.199
<v Speaker 2>like the cattle mutulation topic.

817
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.760
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of boring to me, to be honest. Well,

818
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I find it.

819
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I liked the wrestling part.

820
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean there's something about the tie in. If

821
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:26.079
<v Speaker 1>it was just dead cows, yeah, totally boring. Who cares.

822
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. Dealt with a lot of dead

823
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.079
<v Speaker 1>cows in my life. I remember one time my neighbor

824
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:33.519
<v Speaker 1>friend and I that we had a cow that bloated.

825
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 1>It ate too much grain, that bloated, so it was

826
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:39.599
<v Speaker 1>laying out dead. And I don't know if people don't

827
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:41.800
<v Speaker 1>know what bloated cows look like. They they're basically the

828
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:45.519
<v Speaker 1>internal gases after they die, they kind of swell up

829
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:49.119
<v Speaker 1>and they get really big. And we had pocket knives.

830
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:53.039
<v Speaker 1>We got this brilliant idea, what if we popped this

831
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:56.639
<v Speaker 1>cow because he bowed up, you know, he's big, Like

832
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 1>it was dead. Yeah, it was dead, yeah, and it

833
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>was like the stomach area had just gotten huge, it

834
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>had blown up, and.

835
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:10.960
<v Speaker 2>You're like, experience in this area has been birthday balloons

836
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:13.280
<v Speaker 2>full of helium, right, Yeah, kind of like that you're

837
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 2>waiting for like a or like a pop.

838
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, we see it out there and you

839
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you call a rendering service that comes out and picks

840
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 1>up down animals and they take it and turn it into

841
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.639
<v Speaker 1>makeup and all the stuff that women love. But at

842
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the time, it was just waiting for, you know, the

843
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:34.360
<v Speaker 1>rendering company to come and pick it up. So it

844
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 1>was out in the pasture and me and my friend

845
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.639
<v Speaker 1>we go out. We have pucket knives and we're like, man,

846
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:43.079
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if we popped it, what would happen. So

847
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>we finally got it, got the knives and we went over.

848
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>We stabbed this thing.

849
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:51.880
<v Speaker 2>These laughing like a weirdo.

850
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

851
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:56.320
<v Speaker 1>It was so weird because basically, you know, you see

852
00:46:56.320 --> 00:47:00.360
<v Speaker 1>those those cartoons where something pops in the there's the

853
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>bloom is going like that and it's like flying around

854
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.320
<v Speaker 1>through the air. Well, the cow didn't fly around. The

855
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>cow flew through the air. No, it didn't, but it

856
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>made the same sound. Yeah, and it was like splurting

857
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>out like oh edit this out, man, Yeah, no, no, no,

858
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.320
<v Speaker 1>most funny. We laughed really really really hard.

859
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:23.760
<v Speaker 2>You know.

860
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 1>You would, you would, I would, But the cow was dead.

861
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:31.480
<v Speaker 1>It was it was gross.

862
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 2>People out there who don't eat meat because of this.

863
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Well they probably will give us a negative review. Yeah,

864
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll call them now sixty four were that.

865
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Might be appropriate name for Paul.

866
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:45.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, that's gross.

867
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any dead cow experiences other than I

868
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:51.800
<v Speaker 2>went to this restaurant in Utah. I think it was

869
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:55.480
<v Speaker 2>called Tiberon huh. And that was the best steak I've

870
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:56.039
<v Speaker 2>ever had.

871
00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>That was really rare dead cow meat. Oh so good.

872
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:00.679
<v Speaker 1>It was good.

873
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:05.719
<v Speaker 2>They cleansed my palate with a pineapple ginger homemade sorbet

874
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.639
<v Speaker 2>yu and it was I mean I could just get

875
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:10.760
<v Speaker 2>full off ginger pineapple sorbet.

876
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, if you follow the direction we're going with cattumulation

877
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and maybe the cause behind it might change your mind

878
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:25.519
<v Speaker 1>on eating red meat at all. Yeah, and you know,

879
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>let's just throw it out there. So where we are

880
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:34.599
<v Speaker 1>going are these little protein molecules called prions, which is

881
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a cool name. It's a great name.

882
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounds like something from the Alien series.

883
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:43.599
<v Speaker 1>That's right. So I'm not the only one who's thought

884
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.800
<v Speaker 1>of this. In fact, I got my idea from other

885
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:49.760
<v Speaker 1>people who are much smarter and have thought about this

886
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot more than me. There are books about this.

887
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:57.280
<v Speaker 1>But what's really different about this line of thinking rather

888
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:02.039
<v Speaker 1>than the the surrogate Mother Force sasquatch, is that it

889
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:08.360
<v Speaker 1>gives you a practical reason why a government entity would

890
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:14.119
<v Speaker 1>go into a clandestine kind of operation to monitor basically

891
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:19.039
<v Speaker 1>would be the infection of the American food supply. And

892
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I first heard about this, I thought

893
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.400
<v Speaker 1>it was crazy. I had read a book I think

894
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:27.159
<v Speaker 1>it was called Stalking the Herd, written by a guy

895
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>named Christopher O'Brien. So this was written, you know, I think, gosh,

896
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:37.159
<v Speaker 1>it was written like ten years ago. So this isn't

897
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:38.679
<v Speaker 1>a new thing at all.

898
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I get where you're saying. It's not like a

899
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:44.920
<v Speaker 2>brand new thing, these prions because I've been on this

900
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.400
<v Speaker 2>audible book listening thing lately because of work. If I

901
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.800
<v Speaker 2>don't have something going on constantly in the back of

902
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>my mind, it kind of gets a little bit monotonous sometimes,

903
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:59.079
<v Speaker 2>so I download a lot of audio books and I

904
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:03.119
<v Speaker 2>just finished second Jurassic Park series book, The Lost World

905
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:09.840
<v Speaker 2>by Michael Crichton. Yeah, and basically, how this Lost world

906
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:15.920
<v Speaker 2>can survive with so many predators t rexes and velociraptors

907
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.800
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Well, there's so few prey animals and such

908
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.159
<v Speaker 2>a small area, and they come up with the idea

909
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:27.199
<v Speaker 2>that it's because initially on the island, they were feeding

910
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:34.079
<v Speaker 2>the animals, even the herbivores, a sheep protein extract, and

911
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.000
<v Speaker 2>that was causing them to have prions which caused them

912
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:41.239
<v Speaker 2>to die early shortly after reading, so that there could

913
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 2>be a higher number of predators and a lower number

914
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:44.920
<v Speaker 2>of prey.

915
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh so like a muscle wasting disease.

916
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably similar to the thing that in the hunting community.

917
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Chronic wasting disease is a thing that's becoming more and

918
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 2>more popular, and it's actually in the Idaho Fishing Game

919
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Handbook and we can go over that in the actual

920
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:04.320
<v Speaker 2>pry On episode maybe next episode.

921
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:06.840
<v Speaker 1>So they say, basically, you're not supposed to eat those

922
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>animals that you find that have that disease or that

923
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:12.119
<v Speaker 1>have symbolings of that disease. I think.

924
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:16.000
<v Speaker 2>So they have like big, weird, cloven hoofs looking things

925
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:18.400
<v Speaker 2>like kind of like club feet and stuff.

926
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:22.400
<v Speaker 1>So, so going back to Michael Crichton, so in the book,

927
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>they allude to the possibility that the way that they

928
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.199
<v Speaker 1>were able to feed all of the animals that they

929
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>genetically engineered was to introduce this sheep kind of meal,

930
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:40.760
<v Speaker 1>protein kind of food so that they could feed these animals.

931
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Yep. It's basically a sped up ecosystem where instead of

932
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:48.000
<v Speaker 2>animals living a long time, they would die quicker, but

933
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:51.280
<v Speaker 2>they would kind of like repopulate quicker as well.

934
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Because they take these down animals, grind them up, and

935
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 1>feed them to the other animals so that they can know.

936
00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Kind of basically that they were implementing infant animals with

937
00:52:03.159 --> 00:52:06.320
<v Speaker 2>this protein extract and then letting them free on this

938
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:10.079
<v Speaker 2>island called the Lost World. I don't remember if it

939
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:14.320
<v Speaker 2>was island New Bar or whatever, but a lot of

940
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:18.239
<v Speaker 2>animals in that time period apparently were scavengers, as are

941
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:22.199
<v Speaker 2>most animals now I think that are quote unquote predatory,

942
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:25.320
<v Speaker 2>but there were these ones called copies that were kind

943
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:29.599
<v Speaker 2>of like small, like lizard animals. If you remember the movies, Yeah, yeah,

944
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:32.719
<v Speaker 2>there's the girl that's on the beach and her parents

945
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:35.480
<v Speaker 2>are neglectful and they're rich, and then the girl runs

946
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:39.559
<v Speaker 2>off screen. Yeah, and they're like ah, and then they

947
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.239
<v Speaker 2>and then the mean guy gets eaten by them later.

948
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.679
<v Speaker 2>But in the book, they kind of are like this

949
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:51.639
<v Speaker 2>spreading factor. It seems like of this prayon disease, other

950
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:54.800
<v Speaker 2>animals that are consuming, like raptors and t rex's that

951
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.000
<v Speaker 2>are actually predatory. So basically all the animals are spreading

952
00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:03.920
<v Speaker 2>around continuously this prion disease because it was introduced originally,

953
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:09.280
<v Speaker 2>because herbivores breed and spread the disease and compies. The

954
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:13.480
<v Speaker 2>little dinosaurs scavenge on it, they spread the disease, and

955
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:18.119
<v Speaker 2>raptors and he rex's predatorize these herbi wares that were

956
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:21.280
<v Speaker 2>fed this protein spread the disease, and it's continuous.

957
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:22.559
<v Speaker 1>It's uncontrollable.

958
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I think doctor Malcolm Jeff Goldbloom's character, I think

959
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.920
<v Speaker 2>he actually alludes to it being the reason that the

960
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:34.679
<v Speaker 2>animals are extinct. Yeah, it's pretty interesting just that we're

961
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.280
<v Speaker 2>talking about I just finished the book a while back.

962
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Is really really good.

963
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, I love me some dinosaurs though.

964
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dinosaurs. Michael Crichton's an awesome author. One thing that

965
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I find interesting just to kind of make this connection prions,

966
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:56.800
<v Speaker 1>cause what in most people would recognize that came around

967
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:01.119
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen eighties mad cow disease now mad cow

968
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:06.679
<v Speaker 1>disease also manifested in sheep in the UK minks, other animals.

969
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>It's been found in deer. It's basically like you were

970
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:11.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about this wasting disease that you find in elk

971
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 1>and deer and wild game. So it's something that's around

972
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:21.599
<v Speaker 1>in the environment, and they attribute these conditions, this malady

973
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:27.280
<v Speaker 1>to these things, these protein molecules that are abnormal called prions.

974
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:30.239
<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of a cool name. There's a reason

975
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and there's a story behind how that name started. But

976
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to jump in it too deep yet

977
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>because right now we're talking about the cattle mulation side

978
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:41.920
<v Speaker 1>of it. But what I do want to paint for

979
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 1>you is that what if, what if there is an

980
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:53.840
<v Speaker 1>organization or a deliberate reason why soft tissue and organ

981
00:54:54.039 --> 00:55:00.440
<v Speaker 1>tissue is being taken from cattle cattle that would be

982
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>normally ingested by the cattle industry and consumers like you

983
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:10.639
<v Speaker 1>and I who like t bone steaks or whatever. What

984
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:14.599
<v Speaker 1>if there's a more purposeful reason why this is happening.

985
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:20.559
<v Speaker 1>What if this is a deliberate way to track some

986
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:24.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of malady that you find inside of our beef

987
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:25.880
<v Speaker 1>food supply.

988
00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I don't want to get too much in

989
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:33.039
<v Speaker 2>the weeds of the whole prayon thing, because we could

990
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 2>do a whole episode on it. But I know that

991
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the herd animals are specifically susceptible to this prey on

992
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:48.639
<v Speaker 2>infestation because a lot of saliva and feces and yeah,

993
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:52.159
<v Speaker 2>urination and stuff is getting transmitted because they are herbivores

994
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.360
<v Speaker 2>and they eat the same plants, and they eat where

995
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:57.599
<v Speaker 2>they sleep, and they sleep where they eat, and they

996
00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:01.239
<v Speaker 2>poop or they eat. You know, they're just they mingle

997
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:04.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot. There's a lot of nose touching, and you know,

998
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:05.360
<v Speaker 2>they're both munched on.

999
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:06.719
<v Speaker 1>The same leaf or whatever.

1000
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:12.360
<v Speaker 2>And I know that spreads this particular thing prions, which

1001
00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:13.880
<v Speaker 2>it is a creepy name.

1002
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is a creepy name. And well you have

1003
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:20.199
<v Speaker 1>that and that's more like in the natural environment out

1004
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:22.400
<v Speaker 1>of the wilderness, right. But then you have in like

1005
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:29.079
<v Speaker 1>food circles, you have cows that die, whether down cows,

1006
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.239
<v Speaker 1>whether they you know, it's a they get sick and

1007
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:35.320
<v Speaker 1>they die or whatever, and they are harvested. They're taken

1008
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:39.719
<v Speaker 1>to rendering plants. The fats are separated, the talol is

1009
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:44.320
<v Speaker 1>taken out, things are ground up. Organs are ground up

1010
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and they are introduced into meal, which is then combined

1011
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.360
<v Speaker 1>with other elements, and then it's a fed back into

1012
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:53.159
<v Speaker 1>the food supply.

1013
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is the Jurassic parking we talked about, right

1014
00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:58.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of. Yeah, it's almost like.

1015
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:03.000
<v Speaker 1>So, and then from there, from there it goes to swine, chicken,

1016
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you name any kind of protein that you eat,

1017
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:13.119
<v Speaker 1>even and back into cows. So they use every bit

1018
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:18.519
<v Speaker 1>of those down cows and it saves millions of dollars

1019
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:23.960
<v Speaker 1>in feed costs because so there's a monetary gain to

1020
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:29.639
<v Speaker 1>use those things. But if through that process, we are

1021
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:34.960
<v Speaker 1>introducing these priyons into our food supply, and you know,

1022
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:37.159
<v Speaker 1>the cattle that are out on our.

1023
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Ranges, open ranges or in our.

1024
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Pastures or corrals or wherever. If they're out there, they're

1025
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 1>being raised and harvested for meat and sold. What does

1026
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that mean if they're infected with these primes. Maybe they

1027
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>don't live enough, live long enough to you know, actually

1028
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:56.800
<v Speaker 1>develop mad cow disease.

1029
00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:00.639
<v Speaker 2>But maybe the people that consume them do.

1030
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Exactly tying everything back to cattle mulations, they're still going on,

1031
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:14.360
<v Speaker 1>still happening in some states like Oregon, they're increasing. I

1032
00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:18.159
<v Speaker 1>don't understand why. It's it's still intriguing to me, but

1033
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:20.360
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be fun to talk about it in

1034
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:24.440
<v Speaker 1>our next episode, the possible link to that and these

1035
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:26.320
<v Speaker 1>things that we've been talking about for just a little

1036
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:30.480
<v Speaker 1>bit called prians, and then I don't know, maybe we'll

1037
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:35.159
<v Speaker 1>solve something. Maybe we'll you know, just be throwing out

1038
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:40.719
<v Speaker 1>disinformation like most news channels, but it'll be an interesting

1039
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:43.440
<v Speaker 1>conversation and it'll be something to think about.

1040
00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree.

1041
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:48.960
<v Speaker 1>For now, let's just end it by saying, hey, cattle

1042
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.599
<v Speaker 1>mulations are still going on. They're going strong, baby, and

1043
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:57.719
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, and it's happening. And if you want to

1044
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:02.360
<v Speaker 1>do a little research, just google it. Maybe keep your

1045
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:06.320
<v Speaker 1>eyes and ears open for anything in the newspapers.

1046
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 2>And send it to us if you see something in

1047
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:09.440
<v Speaker 2>your area or whatever.

1048
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you've experienced, definitely let us know. We've loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for sure. Yeah, And we don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>it to death, and we don't want to go too

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<v Speaker 1>deep into pray on where I love that word pryon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a good word. It sounds like Cylon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, like it sounds like the battle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>If this is real, it's horrifying and it's not fun,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's part of our next episode exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, next episode, we'll try to maybe do a little

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<v Speaker 2>more research on the exact, you know, definition of PRY,

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<v Speaker 2>on what they do and what they can potentially be

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<v Speaker 2>causing and.

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<v Speaker 6>Stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So come back and listen. It'll be informative. It may

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<v Speaker 1>not be true, but it will be interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all conspiracy and it will definitely be a strange thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so join us next time there's some cold drinks and

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<v Speaker 2>some strange conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Potatoes, Beef and potatoes.

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<v Speaker 2>Beef and Potatos

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<v Speaker 1>By