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<v Speaker 1>We're starting with a laugh everybody, because we're no longer

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Arena's curtains. We are talking about episode number

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three of Relationships Is a Bitch. It's Mike here

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<v Speaker 1>with AJ and Arena.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, guys, Hey, everybody, you're looking good.

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<v Speaker 3>I like you. Like your jacket, very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>She looks very very nice. She's concerned, though, ag because

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<v Speaker 1>she's gained a little weight. In case you didn't notice,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't gain five or six No, you didn't you. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm an idiot. I would be stupid enough to

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<v Speaker 1>say something like, hey, maybe you did you know your

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<v Speaker 1>face is a little full. I would try look good.

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<v Speaker 1>I would try to turn it into a compliment, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why you know half the time you see me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my wife is in the middle of yelling at

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<v Speaker 1>me for something. But I'd be I'd be dumb enough

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<v Speaker 1>to screw something like that up. But in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's no chance that you get You might have

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<v Speaker 1>gained two pounds or something. There's no chance you gained

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<v Speaker 1>five pounds. But I would say that five pounds a

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<v Speaker 1>weight gain is better than I've been living with this

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<v Speaker 1>lip buddy now.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not a herpye. We have to this thing

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<v Speaker 3>where it's not herpies.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I haven't officially had it tested, so we can't.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't eliminate anything. But I'm pretty sure it's the

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<v Speaker 1>result of me having bit my lip badly and then

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<v Speaker 1>going out on Kenny's boat and getting sunburned where I

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<v Speaker 1>had where I had bit my lip, and it's been nasty.

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<v Speaker 2>You're using your lips constantly. If you didn't talk for

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<v Speaker 2>two days, it would it would clear up.

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<v Speaker 1>And dry out. You think of the potential damage to

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<v Speaker 1>planet Earth if I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can talk for two days. That's not it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A plaus solution.

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<v Speaker 2>I have people, you know, I have fans listeners asking

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<v Speaker 2>me where's where's Everything is a bit?

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<v Speaker 3>Should you guys quit doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a few guys out there who are very concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about about everything is a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to give them a big dose of everything

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<v Speaker 1>is a bit this week. That's that's right, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>got something that I guarantee age he's gonna know the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to. All right, something big happened fifty three years

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<v Speaker 1>ago today.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty three years ago was fifty three.

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<v Speaker 2>What you today today is March twenty fifth, fifty three

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, I was nine years old. Doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>do at the Moon an astronaut nine years old.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe that was nineteen seventy seventy one. The

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<v Speaker 3>next morning the World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy one and fifty three seventy two.

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<v Speaker 4>That it's not me who has to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. He's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna hate

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<v Speaker 1>himself for this.

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<v Speaker 3>But it will be in New York next.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be a major topic on Famous a Bitch tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I can guarantee it. Let me hear the fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago today, the Godfather premiered at theaters.

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<v Speaker 3>God damn it. I should know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh course nineteen seven, Yeah, that was a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>When my family took me, we saw in the theater.

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<v Speaker 2>The book was all over our house for I think

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<v Speaker 2>a year before that. My father, my mother, my sisters

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<v Speaker 2>read it. It was in the bathroom and the other

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom and made the rounds.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember you had we would know. Ajo should should

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<v Speaker 1>have known that if he spent any time online today,

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<v Speaker 1>if he was on X or anywhere he was.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't do X. I didn't do actually yet maybe something.

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<v Speaker 1>But so Irena the author of the book The Godfather,

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<v Speaker 1>which preceded the movie by three years. The book came

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<v Speaker 1>out in sixty nine. He lived on Montauk Highway, which

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<v Speaker 1>was the main road that went right by AJ's neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>In my neighborhood one town over right, So we would

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<v Speaker 1>constantly drive by, and for anybody in your car that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, you had to. It was the official landmark.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to point out, that's that's Mary Opuzzo's house.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And we had sack the coast manor where George Washington slept.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to the point that out, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm sorry really quick, and this is personal, but

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<v Speaker 2>the name of the bar that we used to go

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<v Speaker 2>to at night was a house.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it Jack's?

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Smith's Smith's Remember that house? That was a bar

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<v Speaker 2>on the left that would Sweet Petersith Peter Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. That was such a crazy place.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a house, and that's where we all sang

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet Caroline. And if you can remember, I lived on Sneercrow,

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<v Speaker 2>which was less than a mile from that house. On

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<v Speaker 2>certain nights when I wasn't out, I'd go play basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>throw the garbage out or something. And you could hear

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet Caroline being sung a mile away by all the

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<v Speaker 2>drunk revelers at Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>Smith's probably are it's it's a tribute to aj They

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<v Speaker 1>still do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's oh father, damn it, I should. My father saw

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<v Speaker 2>Coppett to Mario Puzo. He went to Calvin Carpet. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a big story of his. Yeah, the best movie

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<v Speaker 2>ever made. I never I never changed the channel when

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<v Speaker 2>it's on. It's one of those movies you just drug.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. What movies give me? One or

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<v Speaker 2>two movies in your life where if it comes on,

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<v Speaker 2>you just put the remote down and don't even bother

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<v Speaker 2>the change the channel.

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<v Speaker 1>Jaws and shosh Anchor my too. Can't can't pass it

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<v Speaker 1>Jaws because I know every word of the dialogue. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I have to do it. We used to do

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<v Speaker 1>we Agent and I would do every word of the dialogue.

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<v Speaker 1>In marine biology class.

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<v Speaker 3>Goes in the water and goes into the water cage.

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<v Speaker 3>We killed mister Neal's fish. We killed his fish. This

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<v Speaker 3>is something that we're not. We're not.

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<v Speaker 2>We're very good to animals. We don't we don't ever

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<v Speaker 2>mess with that. We love animals. But one year, mister

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<v Speaker 2>Ino and in marine biology had a big fish tank

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<v Speaker 2>of different sorts of fish, and we took a little man,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who we have, this little man, and

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<v Speaker 2>we put them in a tack container, those plastic containers,

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<v Speaker 2>and we lowered that in the in the fish tank

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<v Speaker 2>as if you as.

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<v Speaker 1>An anti shark case.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we put from aldehyde in the tank and the

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<v Speaker 2>next morning the fish were dead.

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<v Speaker 3>What did we do that for?

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<v Speaker 2>You?

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<v Speaker 3>Almost cried.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the statue of limitations is right

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<v Speaker 1>out on that age. Probably in case mister A is

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<v Speaker 1>listening at the I think he passed.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, last question, I know, I know you'll get this.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't, it's as bad as my godfather reference.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the name of the plant life or flora

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<v Speaker 2>we looked for.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Spartana flora?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, that's all I got from real biology.

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<v Speaker 1>Spartan and Joe Pie Joe Pie, Joe Pi.

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<v Speaker 3>My days are you're checking a temperature at the firm? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Sixty two three? We still got Yeah, just lying.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually for being two complete clowns in that classic

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<v Speaker 1>entire we actually learned quite a bit in that class

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<v Speaker 1>because it was like lab every day. Yeah, it was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, we just mentioned fifty three years ago

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<v Speaker 1>the Godfather premiered, But an even bigger in my estimation,

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary was yesterday, the forty. Excuse me, the twenty fourth

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary of this event was yesterday, twenty four years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>just when you're not going to get it. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so. I was in my forties.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happened the twenty forty Yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the twenty fourth anniversary of Randy Johnson killing

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<v Speaker 1>a bird with a pin. Remember when he killed the bird,

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<v Speaker 1>they exploded.

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<v Speaker 2>Here He drew one hundreds and something miles an hour,

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<v Speaker 2>and the bird happened to fly by in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the catcher and it exploded.

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<v Speaker 1>The video the video is all over the place today

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<v Speaker 1>online with people just just totally trolling the poor bird.

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<v Speaker 1>That may he rest in peace. But that was a

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a regular I remembered it as

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<v Speaker 1>a regular season game. It was a it was a

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<v Speaker 1>spring training game for Randy Johnson. And then I then

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<v Speaker 1>I remembered that it was actually Dave Winfield that killed

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<v Speaker 1>the seagull.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes he did, Yankees.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was at Scores the Strip Club when Randy

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson hit that bird.

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<v Speaker 3>It was all the TVs. Uh took my took my.

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<v Speaker 2>Attention away from the the girls on my legs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for a moment, but then I got back to business.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, was there not like a moment of silence

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<v Speaker 1>in the bar for the bird?

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<v Speaker 3>Do that? Plus? You know, you know I can't you know,

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<v Speaker 3>thinking back? How bad was it that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Went to Scores every night because there was the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>topless club in New York City arena and everybody, everybody's famous,

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<v Speaker 2>every athlete went there. So I went there every night

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<v Speaker 2>because I got stories constantly. It helped that the girls

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<v Speaker 2>were beautiful. But every night at a certain hour there

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<v Speaker 2>were a hundred girls who danced and the DJ would say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>they come, and they'd introduce them all and they'd all connot,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, nearly naked and prants around the stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Just think of that objectification that we just sat there.

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<v Speaker 2>And watched all these girls spin around and take the

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<v Speaker 2>tops down and show.

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<v Speaker 3>Us their goods, and that exists.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I may ask you something because I've never seen

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<v Speaker 5>so many strip class I've never been just once tore

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<v Speaker 5>cup in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't mean I'm saying I just don't know nothing

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I used to live eight years in Europe and

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<v Speaker 5>I never seen them either. Doesn't mean in the United

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<v Speaker 5>States you have a huge culture, because I hear that

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<v Speaker 5>even women without men they go to strip clubs I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, to pick up guys, to get acquainted with somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>They say, it's like, oh, they discounted sushi.

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<v Speaker 5>When I listened to this and say, okay, so you're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna go for sushi, You're gonna go to go to

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<v Speaker 5>look at other people naked.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what people are doing there.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand men they're enjoying and having fun, but is

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<v Speaker 5>it a big cultural thing in the.

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<v Speaker 4>United States that I know? Even couples are going there like.

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<v Speaker 2>Iget it because sex in Europe isn't as taboo, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not taboo at all. In America, we grew up with

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<v Speaker 2>it being taboo. You gotta hide it, you can't watch it.

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<v Speaker 5>In the United States, it's taboo. I think you came

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<v Speaker 5>from Italy, your blood came from Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a culture, but culturally it's much more conservative here

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<v Speaker 1>than it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, that's why did you go to these places?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why that's why they go because if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a boy in Europe, you're used in nudity, you see

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<v Speaker 3>And I got to tell you, you know, I went

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<v Speaker 3>who danced. Good for you. It's you beautiful, go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even I was not. I didn't go there

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<v Speaker 2>and get a heart on. I just liked the environment.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty girls, they were fun to talk to. The food

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<v Speaker 2>was great, the people were cool, the music. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like you just say you didn't go there

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<v Speaker 1>and get a heart on very.

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<v Speaker 2>Rarely, but that would very rarely happen to me, I

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I hate to say this, but I

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<v Speaker 2>And when I walked in there, I gave that club

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<v Speaker 2>so much, uh popularity and all that all that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in my column. So I love beautiful women. I dated

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of girls who were dancers, but at sitting down

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<v Speaker 2>there I never went there for dancers. I went there

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<v Speaker 2>for saken lobster, great conversation, beautiful girls and getting getting

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<v Speaker 2>some stories. Yeah, but I got turned on. I dated

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<v Speaker 3>But there a lap dance. I never did that. Never,

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I took clients there occasionally, and uh, I remember one

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<v Speaker 1>guy was one guy was short on cash one night

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<v Speaker 1>and wanted to go to whatever they called it, They're

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<v Speaker 1>campaign the champagne lounge or whatever, and uh so I

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<v Speaker 1>gave him five hundred bucks and uh and sent him

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<v Speaker 1>to the champagne room. He came back with three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars worth to change in about seven minutes and a

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<v Speaker 1>huge stain in the front of his freaking dance. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when I hear him, oh it took two dances

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<v Speaker 1>for the guy to lose it in his trow. Well yeah, crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>But but I'm I'm I'm impressed at AJ's TV bar

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's here's the real here's the here's the real story.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was working at Mysteries and Scandals, I was

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<v Speaker 2>always out with his suit nice you know, HARMANI you

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<v Speaker 2>name it. I had all the best suits. One night

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<v Speaker 2>we went to the one on Sunset. I can't think

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<v Speaker 2>the name right now, but it's all nude, which I

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<v Speaker 2>really don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>But I went there was late.

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<v Speaker 2>I got my suit on and this girl was really

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<v Speaker 2>attractive and very flirty, and I gave her whatever was

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred bucks. Went in the back room and I

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<v Speaker 2>did get very aroused, and uh, you know, I started talking,

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<v Speaker 2>what am I going to do with this? I can't

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<v Speaker 2>go out there like this, that kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>she said, you can take you can take care of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I took care of it in the room, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I jerked off in the room with her. She didn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>She watched and then as I finished, he goes, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>I know you. You're the guy on the TV show

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not. It's not me. I guest that all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. So it was a good It was good

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<v Speaker 3>in bad. But yeah, it happened once. It happened once.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not always good to be recognized.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was good until it wasn't good. But it

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<v Speaker 3>that way, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I hear you. Well, that's that's all I got

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<v Speaker 1>for anniversaries. Today. We got we got a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>big ones and we got a dead that was a bird,

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<v Speaker 1>not a seagull in the Randy Johnson story. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we talked about this last week. I've

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<v Speaker 1>now gotten to go out on the boat the yacht

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me twice, Yes, which listeners The name which I

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<v Speaker 1>love of the is the bott of Being, And yes

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I can explain tying it back to the

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<v Speaker 1>prior story. But I got injured during the last what

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<v Speaker 1>happened here, I may have been overserved. Aside whether I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was self overserved, yet I made himself overserved. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was walking to the bow and I put my

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<v Speaker 1>foot up on what I thought was a dry piece

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<v Speaker 1>of the boat of the bow, and it was wet,

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<v Speaker 1>and so my my foot slid really fast off of

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<v Speaker 1>that right into the railing of the boat, really hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and and well, I ah, it turned into a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>serious didn't realized that day, partially because of my blood

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol level, and partially because sometimes like it takes a

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<v Speaker 1>little while for these things to to kick in their

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<v Speaker 1>worse the day after than they are the day of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. And so I I brought my dilemma

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<v Speaker 1>to Gemini near me to Ai, because I really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to try and resolve the situation. I want to look

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<v Speaker 1>at my notes because I want to tell you exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what Irena told me. Irena Ai told you so. I

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<v Speaker 1>explained that I had had an accident while out on

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<v Speaker 1>a friend's boat that resulted in my foot being broken

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<v Speaker 1>in multiple places. And oh, no, I broke, I broke

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<v Speaker 1>multiple Uh what do you call them? Metatarsals? Both toes

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<v Speaker 1>and metals.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I told Irena Ai that a visit to the doctor

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<v Speaker 1>resulted in a treatment plan requiring possible surgery, rest, physical therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>and three to four months of not putting a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of wheat on the foot.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>My question was whether I should expect my friend slash

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<v Speaker 1>his insurance company to cover my medical expenses. Irena Ai

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<v Speaker 1>asked me whether I discussed the situation with my friend

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<v Speaker 1>and how that conversation made me feel Okay. Well, as

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out, I went to a preseason baseball game

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<v Speaker 1>with my friend a couple of days later, and my

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<v Speaker 1>son joined us for that, and when I explained to

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<v Speaker 1>my friend what had happened, he called me a pussy,

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<v Speaker 1>a drunken and a drunken moron, and said I was

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<v Speaker 1>an idiot. If I wasn't an idiot, I would never

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<v Speaker 1>have slipped on his yacht of my name was Well,

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<v Speaker 1>remember I haven't been saying the name of my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>but you just clarified that. Although people probably connected the

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<v Speaker 1>yacht ownership with my friend. But if you're asking me

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<v Speaker 1>whether he called me a pussy and a drunken moron

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<v Speaker 1>and said if I wasn't an idiot, I never would

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<v Speaker 1>have said that a shot absolutely scouts honor. That's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what he said. In fact, he may have even used terminology.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you guess what it was that was worse

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<v Speaker 1>than worse than idiot, but politically incorrect to use that language.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Arena AI asked me how it made me feel

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<v Speaker 1>when my friend said that those said those things during

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<v Speaker 1>our conversation. I told her it made me feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a drunk, pussy idiot, and Arena AI asked me what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do about it. I said that I

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<v Speaker 1>planned to get a great personal injury attorney and sue

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<v Speaker 1>my friend's balls off. I also asked her whether she

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<v Speaker 1>knew any great personal injury attorneys. So Arena I would

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<v Speaker 1>not give me the name of any personal injury attorneys,

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<v Speaker 1>so no recommendations. And then she asked me if I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to end, potentially end a personal relationship over

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<v Speaker 1>something like this, and I said I didn't want to,

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<v Speaker 1>but I felt that it was the only option left

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Understandable, at which point Arena AI said that

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<v Speaker 1>in that case, you are a drunken pussy idiot. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So the Arena AI did not call me a drunken

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<v Speaker 1>pussy idiot, but it did take me through a very

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<v Speaker 1>different road than when I tried to uh to have

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<v Speaker 1>the same dialogue with chat GPT and with Crop three,

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<v Speaker 1>both of which not only suggested I should sue my

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<v Speaker 1>friend but also gave me recommendations for personal injury attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>in my area. Yes, and so I actually think that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason I told the story, folks, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that there's, you know, there's just the lazy way of

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<v Speaker 1>just going going to a chatbot or one of those

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<v Speaker 1>services and just asking them to solve your problem for you,

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<v Speaker 1>or give you a personal injury attorney's number or name,

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<v Speaker 1>and give you a suggestion on whether you should an

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<v Speaker 1>answer as to whether you should or shouldn't sue. And

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<v Speaker 1>in each case there was a small qualification about my

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<v Speaker 1>comfort level of suing a friend, but there was the

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<v Speaker 1>immediate suggestion that from a financial standpoint, I absolutely should

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<v Speaker 1>be suing my friend. And so we talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>distinction between what Irena AI does and what the chatbots

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<v Speaker 1>or or you know, chat ept rock, et cetera, would do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's a great illustration of that here

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<v Speaker 1>she's trying to lead me to the emotional answer to

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<v Speaker 1>ask of myself, is it do I feel right about

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<v Speaker 1>suing a friend over an accident that happened on his

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<v Speaker 1>yacht where he was kind enough to ask me to

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<v Speaker 1>go out in the and I got myself drunk and

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<v Speaker 1>I stepped on the wet spot and hit my foot,

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<v Speaker 1>and and so of course I think that I would

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<v Speaker 1>never ever uh suing Kenny over something like this or

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<v Speaker 1>my friend excuse me, but I think it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great illustration.

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<v Speaker 2>I like how zeep she she got, She really got

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<v Speaker 2>inside your head rather than these other chat shepts, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>just giving you straight up information, which is doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>weigh emotions or friendships.

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<v Speaker 3>My sister, same thing happened her many years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>She was stepping from a dock onto her friend's boat

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<v Speaker 2>and her the boat slid away from the dock and

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<v Speaker 2>she fell right in between her thighs on the hard

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<v Speaker 2>fiberglass boat and she went and hospital. She got all

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<v Speaker 2>cut up down there, very painful.

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<v Speaker 3>She wanted to suit. We all said, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Marie and Perry are your friends. You can't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>She did it.

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<v Speaker 2>She got nothing, basically, and the friendship was over. My

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<v Speaker 2>sister was not like the rest of the family. We

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<v Speaker 2>told her, don't do that, You'll be fine. But the friendship.

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<v Speaker 2>Friendship ended.

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<v Speaker 7>All that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't blame.

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<v Speaker 1>Mercury was in retrograde the day, okay, but this reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of a moral dilemma I went through with aj

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<v Speaker 1>in in high school. And you know, I would suggest

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<v Speaker 1>to aj the things that he should be reading in

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<v Speaker 1>order to you know, understand the material in a class

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<v Speaker 1>and then perform well on exams. And AJ would let

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<v Speaker 1>me know that he greatly preferred just copying whatever I wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, cheating off of my off of my paper.

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<v Speaker 2>And because you're a left e, I really couldn't see

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<v Speaker 2>over your left arm. You know, left is right in

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<v Speaker 2>that weird way where they cover the world very hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike. Mike writes very small.

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<v Speaker 2>To this day, he writes like crib notes only him

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<v Speaker 2>and Jimmy Sanders was my accountant for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy would write the teeniest.

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<v Speaker 1>Words like I remember Sanders rather and.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys had that slint that I couldn't pick up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I did, Okay, I'm talking multiple choices. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really cheat on an essay test.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's hard. That's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I guess you could, but it'd be much

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<v Speaker 1>harder than multiple choice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's multiple trust they did, Okay, I ended up with

429
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<v Speaker 2>a base. I think the worst thing.

430
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<v Speaker 3>Got an eight. Of course.

431
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<v Speaker 1>Well, and he never cheated off me in marine biology, so.

432
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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think that was fun. That was a

433
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<v Speaker 3>fun class.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Well, we seldom talk about sports, even though we

435
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<v Speaker 1>just talked about ranking killing the bird on on relationships

436
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<v Speaker 1>as a bitch. But there's something going on that has

437
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<v Speaker 1>gone on over the past week that has really mushroomed

438
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<v Speaker 1>into a I think a much larger issue that a

439
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<v Speaker 1>much greater percentage of the population is now aware of.

440
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<v Speaker 1>This is something that that I've been particularly focused on

441
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<v Speaker 1>for a while because it's a it's a topic of

442
00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:16.039
<v Speaker 1>great interest to John Ziggler that we talk about on

443
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<v Speaker 1>the depth of journalism a lot. But you know, it's

444
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<v Speaker 1>a it's a cautionary tale about you know, being careful

445
00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:27.400
<v Speaker 1>what you ask for, because you know, Twitter is now

446
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<v Speaker 1>in a frenzy over the less than entertaining NCAA Basketball

447
00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:36.440
<v Speaker 1>tournament thus far, because all the favorites are winning these games,

448
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<v Speaker 1>or at least the overwhelming majority of the favorites are winning.

449
00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>In fact, all of the number four seed or lower

450
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<v Speaker 1>in the first round won their game. So those top

451
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<v Speaker 1>four seeds all won their first round game, and they

452
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<v Speaker 1>won them by an average of twenty two point six points.

453
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, blowouts.

454
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<v Speaker 1>So there's something in particular. Everybody is pointing at Aja

455
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<v Speaker 1>as the reason that this has changed, and March madness

456
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<v Speaker 1>has become March sadness.

457
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's exactly exactly what I That's exactly what I said.

458
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<v Speaker 2>We're all talking about Nil, which, in case you don't

459
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<v Speaker 2>know his name, image and likeness. This is the policy

460
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<v Speaker 2>that's been instituted in college basketball, and the debate rages

461
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<v Speaker 2>on because now you know, I told my son, make

462
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<v Speaker 2>sure you watch the first day or two of the

463
00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:31.640
<v Speaker 2>NCAA tournament has always tremendous upsets and he's already for

464
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<v Speaker 2>written and it just nothing really happened. And when's the

465
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<v Speaker 2>last time the top seeds all made it. I don't

466
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<v Speaker 2>even know the last year that happened. But this, I mean,

467
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<v Speaker 2>where are the Davidson's, the Gonzagas, the Villanova's of the past.

468
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<v Speaker 2>So now it's harder for lower seeds, lower seeded teams

469
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<v Speaker 2>to pull off upsets because NIL was what introduced four

470
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<v Speaker 2>or five years ago, and it allows college athletes to profit.

471
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<v Speaker 3>From their personal brands.

472
00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:59.799
<v Speaker 2>Branding is everything now and that leads to big financial

473
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<v Speaker 2>disparities between powerhouse schools.

474
00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:05.440
<v Speaker 3>And smaller schools, the ones that we root for to be.

475
00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Cinderella, and it's altering the whole balance that has basically

476
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.559
<v Speaker 2>fueled the fact that we all love this tournament because

477
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<v Speaker 2>it's unpredictable. You could be a brain, you could be

478
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<v Speaker 2>a bringing act with college ball, and you could lose

479
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:22.519
<v Speaker 2>your bracket in the first two days. That's why we're

480
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:24.079
<v Speaker 2>all on even ground.

481
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:24.599
<v Speaker 3>Now we're not.

482
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<v Speaker 2>And the big argument with this NIL is that this

483
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<v Speaker 2>talent at high major programs have the bigger budgets and

484
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of big multimillionaire donors. Wealthier schools can afford

485
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:42.240
<v Speaker 2>these lucrative nil deals. We're talking high six figures, low

486
00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:46.200
<v Speaker 2>seven figures at times, and that entices recruits and transfers

487
00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>to join or stay rather than develop at these mid majors.

488
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:55.599
<v Speaker 2>And it just trains the whole experience that the Cinderello

489
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:58.759
<v Speaker 2>teams we rooted for in the past. They just can't

490
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:03.079
<v Speaker 2>make it past these top heavy favorites. So now, I mean,

491
00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:06.839
<v Speaker 2>you got your sons. Your son's playing it, well, he

492
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:07.799
<v Speaker 2>went to Texas.

493
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Right, my son's at TCU, but he's not he's not playing.

494
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:13.680
<v Speaker 3>But I know, but.

495
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Didn't that happen in his school not too long ago?

496
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Was a quarterback or was that Texas? Some some players,

497
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:24.960
<v Speaker 2>some quarterback in football really really made things topsy turvy.

498
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:26.039
<v Speaker 3>I can't think his name right now.

499
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh we're okay. I don't remember where it was. But

500
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:32.599
<v Speaker 1>there was a guy who refused to play in a

501
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>bowl game. Yeah, that's it because he was going to

502
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>enter the transfer portal and didn't want himself to to

503
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>risk injury in the bowl game. Look, they are all

504
00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:49.640
<v Speaker 1>kinds of unintended consequences. The NIO rule changed. I don't

505
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:51.160
<v Speaker 1>think it was four or five years ago. There's more

506
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:54.079
<v Speaker 1>recent than that. I think it's like three years something

507
00:26:54.160 --> 00:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>like that. But it's also evolved since the beginning, and

508
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>it takes some time to ramp up these programs and

509
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>hire people and sort of you know, professionalize or commercialize

510
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:17.759
<v Speaker 1>the effort at getting advertisers, boosters to come in and

511
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.640
<v Speaker 1>support the program and help get these get these guys paid.

512
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>But the huge difference in college basketball and Steph Curry

513
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>would be the poster child, yes, who took a little

514
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.400
<v Speaker 1>school like Davidson because he was a little guy who

515
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get Duke or North Carolina to give him a scholarship,

516
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>so he went to Davidson. He ends up growing a

517
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>little and becoming the best shooter in basketball history, and

518
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>he's able. He stays four years at Davidson, and he

519
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>puts the school on the map and makes a run

520
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>deep into the NCAA Tournament because of the continuity of

521
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>being there for four years on that team and being

522
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.799
<v Speaker 1>a great player who stayed at a little school because

523
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>there was no one dangling millions of dollars at Steph

524
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Curry at the end of his freshman year saying we

525
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.240
<v Speaker 1>were wrong, you are good enough. To play for Duke.

526
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Please come over, Mike Krzyzewski didn't have a check book

527
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:11.079
<v Speaker 1>to write checks back in the day and couldn't do

528
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:16.079
<v Speaker 1>that now. If you make if you make some noise

529
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:21.880
<v Speaker 1>at a small school, Saint Peter's, Liholl of Chicago, University

530
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:24.319
<v Speaker 1>of Maryland, Baltimore County all day, and that's the team

531
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:28.079
<v Speaker 1>that was a sixteen that beat a one. Yeah, those

532
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>kinds of schools or mid majors in general, that could

533
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>make a run in a tournament because of the continuity

534
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 1>of their team and the fact that they could keep

535
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 1>athletes for four years. Well, they can't keep anybody who's

536
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>good because they're going to get offered big money by

537
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.519
<v Speaker 1>a big school to make the jump. And so it's

538
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>now there's nothing more nauseating than hearing an announcer go, oh,

539
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 1>there's aj Bens. It's his senior year here at the Paul.

540
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 1>He played for played for Creighton last year, and the

541
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>year before that he played for Saint John's, and year

542
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 1>before that he was at Auburn. But he's a great kid,

543
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know doing great chapter is come on, I

544
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:01.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

545
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I hate that. Yeah, I'm sorry.

546
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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no, no, no, just look, it's more about

547
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 5>I just wanted to say, if fe're worse about it.

548
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.119
<v Speaker 5>I think it's such a tendency now because personal branding

549
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:14.640
<v Speaker 5>started to be crucial all over the place, and if

550
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:17.480
<v Speaker 5>you think about social media definitely gives you so many

551
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.839
<v Speaker 5>opportunities for that to build it up. But people stop

552
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.799
<v Speaker 5>to be stable, they stop to be committed, whether its

553
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:28.359
<v Speaker 5>relationship or your careers. They don't care about, you know,

554
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 5>being linked to somebody. They don't care about representing something

555
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 5>bigger than them. They care about themselves. They are losing

556
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:37.559
<v Speaker 5>their jobs, not losing. They do it consciously, and they

557
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 5>care about being a blogger. I'm a part of it.

558
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 5>I understand them, but I fix it up with my expertise.

559
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Speaker 5>And people don't you know, they think, okay, I will

560
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 5>play here a little bit there, a little bit. My

561
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:51.720
<v Speaker 5>goal is making money only and probably build up personal brand.

562
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 4>They don't think about.

563
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 7>The value, call value of it.

564
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 5>And definitely, I don't know if you have such a saying,

565
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:02.079
<v Speaker 5>you don't change the horses they're crossing right, you know

566
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:04.559
<v Speaker 5>when you cross when you started your way. So I

567
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 5>think that's what happening because such a competition right now

568
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:10.799
<v Speaker 5>about the love about the careers all over the place

569
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.559
<v Speaker 5>that people don't care about, you know, being a part

570
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 5>of something bigger.

571
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 7>Well, yes, I know, and treplaceable.

572
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:20.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, typically I think.

573
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I think underdogs in March Madness have a win rate

574
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 2>of thirty three percent the past five years in this tournament.

575
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 2>That's that's the kind of shit. You can turn your

576
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:33.279
<v Speaker 2>head away from a game that a team has that

577
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of a chance to beat a top major university

578
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>that's over now, or it's going to be severely curtailed.

579
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, this whole thing branding, if we.

580
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 2>Got into branding ten or fifteen years ago, boy, it's

581
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>everything now.

582
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Hart how it works in Hollywood.

583
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Hart and many of these people have and they've

584
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 2>amassed twenty thirty forty sixty seventy million people one hundred

585
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 2>million people on their social media platforms. In the old days,

586
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:01.319
<v Speaker 2>you did a movie, you're starting a movie, then you

587
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>go out and do publicity for that movie. The studio

588
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>loves the publicity you bring. Kevin Hart was the first

589
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 2>person to say, yeah, I want to be paid.

590
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:09.799
<v Speaker 3>For doing that publicity.

591
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.599
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean, Well, the forty million people I reach,

592
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I reached because I.

593
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Did all that work.

594
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I made them come to me with little things I

595
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 2>did talking to the public.

596
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:23.039
<v Speaker 3>So now you pay me, in addition to my movie salary,

597
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:24.000
<v Speaker 3>pay me a few.

598
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Million to push this movie onto my fans that I

599
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 2>built into my platform. I think it started in Hollywood,

600
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:36.839
<v Speaker 2>that this extra, this branding thing, And now I don't. Look,

601
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>we all think it's fair for these kids to make

602
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 2>some money because they bring in millions and millions of

603
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:43.839
<v Speaker 2>dollars to these universities.

604
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:49.920
<v Speaker 3>But you know, the consequences are what we're looking at

605
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:51.960
<v Speaker 3>right now. The games aren't as good.

606
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I would take count me as somebody who doesn't think

607
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it's fair and never thought it was a good idea,

608
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 1>and we go back to the old way heartbeat. Look,

609
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I know there are all kinds of individual stories we

610
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>can tell about families living in poverty and the kid

611
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>gets to a school and it not only changes the

612
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>life of his family, but his relatives and everything. Yes,

613
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I know that, but look at what's happening culturally. Everything

614
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 1>is about me. Everything is about the name on the

615
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:28.559
<v Speaker 1>back of the jersey, not the name on the front

616
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>of the jersey. Institutions that have been so important to

617
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>this culture. We're gonna want the Michigan Ohio State rivalry,

618
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and football is going to go away. It's not going

619
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a USC, UCLA, Notre Dame USC. All of

620
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>these rivalries lose their meaning when we don't even know

621
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>who the quarterback is because they've been there for half

622
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 1>a minute and then they're going to be gone the

623
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>next year. Think of all the players historically that we

624
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.759
<v Speaker 1>when we conjure them up, we think of them. There's

625
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>so many players that I think of and think instantly

626
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.279
<v Speaker 1>of their time at Duke as a basketball player, or

627
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.319
<v Speaker 1>their time at Michigan as a football player. That's your

628
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 1>reference point is where you first become a fan of

629
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that athlete, dub Flute at Boston College. I mean things

630
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 1>like that that they will disappear from the culture, not

631
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>be a part of what happens. And so it's and

632
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 1>the deeper we get into it, the more time that

633
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:39.279
<v Speaker 1>goes by, the more those things like those rivalries become

634
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>distant memories. We've got twelve teams making a football playoff now,

635
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:47.079
<v Speaker 1>rendering conference championship games meaningless in a lot of cases.

636
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Except all of these things that are that are changing sports.

637
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:54.319
<v Speaker 1>And you're right, it all goes back to cultural changes

638
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>around social media and technology and what people were able

639
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.119
<v Speaker 1>to do to build personal brands. But it cuts both ways.

640
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<v Speaker 1>Is not that happy that she has the social reach

641
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:11.119
<v Speaker 1>that she has after she you know, put her foot

642
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:14.320
<v Speaker 1>in her mouth and changed the you know, the tide

643
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 1>of that whole day publicly.

644
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 3>But surely you know why.

645
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 5>Because relationships stop to be a value. That's what we

646
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.880
<v Speaker 5>have to bring back to people. It's all about now

647
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 5>self love. But self love is misinterpret by like by

648
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:33.480
<v Speaker 5>social media. People don't understand self love. It's nothing to

649
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 5>do with egoism ega centuries. Self love is about self

650
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 5>care and that's it, and self respect and so on.

651
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 5>Good things, not bad and destructive things. But people lost

652
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:49.360
<v Speaker 5>value of relationships. Then normal marriage is for fifteen years together,

653
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.360
<v Speaker 5>no matter what the normal friendships like that, everybody is

654
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 5>soon everybody. There is no more team work, there is

655
00:34:56.079 --> 00:35:00.320
<v Speaker 5>no more relian on somebody else. And because people are

656
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 5>trying to misuse information behind your back and.

657
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 4>Look good, you know, So yeah, relationship I lose in value.

658
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 2>And now people don't even realize unless you're a real

659
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:15.400
<v Speaker 2>sports fan, how these these people involved in basketball or

660
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.079
<v Speaker 2>football baseball programs, How they visit these kids and these

661
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.639
<v Speaker 2>kids' families when they're eighth graders, ninth graders, and gradation

662
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>in themselves inside the family, inside the community. We're going

663
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.400
<v Speaker 2>to make this kid a star at our university. And

664
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<v Speaker 2>then you know, there's a lot of work to be done,

665
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 2>countless nights and months and years. The kid gets there,

666
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:38.800
<v Speaker 2>and then with the nil deal, he can split whenever.

667
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 3>He feels necessary.

668
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.639
<v Speaker 2>You lose all that that stuff you've built for years

669
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:44.159
<v Speaker 2>when he was a kid to get him to come

670
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:44.800
<v Speaker 2>to your school.

671
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:47.320
<v Speaker 3>The almighty dollar moves him away.

672
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Right, And don't forget this is bleeding down to high school.

673
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Imagine a Jack Bradish who couldn't pull you out of

674
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<v Speaker 1>the game, hold your face mask to his face, call

675
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 1>you a scup whatever the hell, scup, scup They love

676
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:01.800
<v Speaker 1>to call you a Scott Scot.

677
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I forgot that word.

678
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all of that is And think about these athletes

679
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 1>that think about Saquon Barkley and when they interview him

680
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and he and say, what inspired you to dedicate yourself

681
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 1>the way that it's always about a coach that took

682
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:26.039
<v Speaker 1>an interest beyond what happened on the field, that challenged

683
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>me and nobody ever thinks the coach who took it

684
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>easy on them they expected nothing of them, was happy.

685
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:37.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, just yeah, yeah, Coach Jones was the greatest

686
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 1>thing in the world because he cut me lots of

687
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 1>checks on Friday. No character is not getting built with

688
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>these with these changes that are happening to all these institutions.

689
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, let's talk about an athlete. This has turned

690
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>into a sports show today. Let's talk about an athlete

691
00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>who had great character and and it's funny. I think

692
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:08.599
<v Speaker 1>we'll both have memories of this guy that we're talking

693
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>about the passing of George Foreman this week as an

694
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.599
<v Speaker 1>evil carra see. I was a big Ali fan as

695
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:19.199
<v Speaker 1>a kid. You two, and Muhammad Ali was the master

696
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of public opinion long before social media existed. He would

697
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 1>troll opponents like no one had ever trolled them before,

698
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 1>and he never saw a microphone. He didn't like. Howard

699
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Cosell was on the present as a broadcaster, and the

700
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>banter between Cosel and Ali was everywhere, and prior to

701
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the so called Rumble in the Jungle, which was the

702
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.679
<v Speaker 1>big fight between Ali where he was a major underdog,

703
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>speaking of underdogs, against George Foreman, who was this huge

704
00:37:55.239 --> 00:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>guy who appeared merciless and had this huge punch and

705
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.639
<v Speaker 1>was much bigger than Ali. And and you know, he

706
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>was just painted as this evil giant and uh and

707
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Ali not only painted him as evil, he painted him

708
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:12.320
<v Speaker 1>as stupid.

709
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:13.199
<v Speaker 3>Ye I mean.

710
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Ali's entire strategy for the fight was this thing called

711
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>ropidope where he would get he would get Foreman to

712
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:25.039
<v Speaker 1>punch himself out by just putting his arms, covering his

713
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:29.599
<v Speaker 1>head and and letting Foreman punch into his shoulders and

714
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 1>his arms rather than making contact. And Forman got tired

715
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 1>later in the fight and Ali knocked him out in

716
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the eighth round.

717
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Man he said he would, He said he would. It's

718
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:41.079
<v Speaker 3>a great, great documentary.

719
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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

720
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<v Speaker 2>When when they they get up to the fight with

721
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Ali and Foreman in Africa, and you see the way

722
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Ali was painting him. Ali the man of the People,

723
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.480
<v Speaker 2>got a bunch of Africans and made them believe how

724
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:56.119
<v Speaker 2>bad Foreman was, your bad man.

725
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:58.519
<v Speaker 3>And Forman had no idea this was going on.

726
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 2>He gets on the plane with his German shepherd, not

727
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.400
<v Speaker 2>knowing that in that part of Africa that dog was

728
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.199
<v Speaker 2>like feared. You don't come out, you don't have a

729
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 2>dog next to you. He turned everybody off just for

730
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 2>that German shepherd with him. But then Ali got the

731
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:15.559
<v Speaker 2>crowd to scream Ali Boumay, which apparently meant kill Foreman

732
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:18.840
<v Speaker 2>or something derogatory toward Foreman. He lost before he entered

733
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:22.519
<v Speaker 2>the ring, but he was such a hated man, largely

734
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.000
<v Speaker 2>because many of us love I'll heave was my idol

735
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:27.199
<v Speaker 2>the first time I fought with my father because he

736
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:28.559
<v Speaker 2>hated him and I loved him, and that was the

737
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.679
<v Speaker 2>first time we ever had a split and might not

738
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:34.519
<v Speaker 2>thinking like him, but from Foreman to be such a

739
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:38.639
<v Speaker 2>hated person to then become so beloved, far more than

740
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Shaquille O'Neal is beloved or Charles Barkley, this is global.

741
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Foreman became one of the most loved, beloved human beings

742
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:50.239
<v Speaker 2>ever after being looked at as such a terrible, mean,

743
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:54.159
<v Speaker 2>angry person. But that was just his exterior when he fought,

744
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 2>That's not what his heart was like.

745
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, it didn't happen immediately though, if you remember he

746
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.280
<v Speaker 1>he lost to a guy named Jimmy Young, who was

747
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>a good fighter. But isn't that that well known. I

748
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think most people unless they're a fight fan you

749
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>know will today would know of Jimmy Young, But he

750
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>had this forming credited that fight because he lost that

751
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:21.519
<v Speaker 1>fight to Jimmy Young as a spiritual awakening. So that

752
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>was in seventy seven, and he bought Young and he

753
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.199
<v Speaker 1>lost to Ali in seventy four, so he had three

754
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:29.880
<v Speaker 1>more years of still being you know, labeled as this

755
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:33.360
<v Speaker 1>mean guy and everything. But he had a near death

756
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:37.079
<v Speaker 1>experience following that fight, which took place in Puerto Rico.

757
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>In his dressing room, he collapsed and claimed that he

758
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>encountered a vision of despair followed by divine intervention. He said,

759
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I was dead and then I heard a voice say

760
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:50.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to die.

761
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

762
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 1>And that moment led him to become a born again

763
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Christian and ordain himself as a minister. And so given

764
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:04.519
<v Speaker 1>that this mountain of a guy who the public opinion

765
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>after that Young fight, after his devotion to Christianity, long

766
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 1>before even the forming Grille came to market, Yeah, I thought,

767
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>this is a great person to ask Irena about this

768
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:20.559
<v Speaker 1>week and to have us tell a little bit about

769
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>what the numbers say about George Foreman.

770
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 3>Cool.

771
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thank you, Mike.

772
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:31.280
<v Speaker 5>So astrologically I checked on George Horman and his son

773
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 5>is Capricorne and speaking about his forecoholism that he did

774
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.480
<v Speaker 5>a lot. You know, he is very intense and his

775
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:42.440
<v Speaker 5>venus in Sagittarius actually speaks about the expect that tends

776
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:44.840
<v Speaker 5>to tell people what to do or act as a

777
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:48.679
<v Speaker 5>spiritual mentor that's what happened to him. His karmic task

778
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 5>was around gaining the qualities of Taurus, which speaks more

779
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 5>about the desire to be materialistic always spirital. But he

780
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:00.000
<v Speaker 5>still combined both his son.

781
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 7>With conjunction with Jupiter.

782
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 5>He has few powerful aspects actually speaks about no matter

783
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.760
<v Speaker 5>whatever happens in his life. It's a very positive aspect,

784
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:13.239
<v Speaker 5>the two biggest and most benevolent planets coming together symbolizing

785
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.079
<v Speaker 5>an additional guardian angel that probably helped him to survive

786
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.159
<v Speaker 5>on that day. This aspect enhances influence and goal achievement.

787
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 5>It brings optimism, self confidence, hopeful for the best, enthudiasm

788
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:30.519
<v Speaker 5>to inspire other people. It provides the ability to realize

789
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.320
<v Speaker 5>oneself and maintain a positive outlook on life. Power comes

790
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 5>through personal projects and partnerships as well. His mercury in

791
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 5>conjunction with Mars, which is very masculine planet, speaks about

792
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 5>his sharp brain and great intellectual energy, prefers to take

793
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:53.719
<v Speaker 5>one side in discussions and often gets involved in arguments.

794
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't know him from this side. If he was

795
00:42:56.480 --> 00:43:02.480
<v Speaker 5>very engaging in the negotiations, and you know, discussions, decision

796
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:08.559
<v Speaker 5>making can be impulsive, forms connections through conflicts, so sometimes

797
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 5>he can raise up conflicts or speaking very intensively with

798
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:16.480
<v Speaker 5>the other people discussing difficult, challenging topics as well, makes

799
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 5>very clear decisions and follows through them. Interested in politics,

800
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:28.320
<v Speaker 5>enjoy delivering speeches, debating, presenting controversial topics for discussion. From

801
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 5>health point of view, as soon as he passed away,

802
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:32.800
<v Speaker 5>I can afford talking about that.

803
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:36.119
<v Speaker 7>He could have had issues.

804
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 5>With upper inspiratory track and his career posts could be

805
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.679
<v Speaker 5>also related to journalism reporters and researchers because he had

806
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:49.559
<v Speaker 5>kind of very curious personality. He possibly had a chronic

807
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 5>emotional dissatisfaction. That's why he was constantly searching for something else.

808
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.000
<v Speaker 7>I don't know how many partners he had.

809
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.880
<v Speaker 5>But he had an opportunity had a lot better.

810
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:02.480
<v Speaker 4>Its venus is in the position with arietis.

811
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<v Speaker 5>It means that you mysteriously meet a lot of people

812
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:10.079
<v Speaker 5>and get into love affairs and so on and so on.

813
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:14.360
<v Speaker 5>Do aspect of divorce and as well possible marriage to

814
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:19.559
<v Speaker 5>a foreigner and tendency to flirt with the opposite gender.

815
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:25.039
<v Speaker 5>May experience multiple marriages as well or multiple suparations, multiple divorces.

816
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, i'll tell you what. He married five times and

817
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>he had twelve kids. But here's the thing most people

818
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:34.760
<v Speaker 2>know about Foreman. He named all of his sons George Foreman.

819
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:36.639
<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, that's crazy.

820
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:37.840
<v Speaker 4>By the way, I don't know.

821
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.039
<v Speaker 5>In our country, it's not considered to be a good

822
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:43.079
<v Speaker 5>tradition because they say that you're given away the energy

823
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.880
<v Speaker 5>of the father to the kids. But looks like you

824
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 5>had a good life anyway. So I hope that maybe

825
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 5>in America it's totally different. So I don't want to disrespect,

826
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:56.519
<v Speaker 5>never have the culture, because I don't know exactly to

827
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 5>be honest.

828
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought I thought years ago, well ten years

829
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>ago or so, that I was going to do a

830
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:07.280
<v Speaker 1>podcast with George Foreman, because I was doing one at

831
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the time with Mike Tyson and AJ was actually a

832
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>guest on Once with Us, and Tyson's agent had set

833
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.599
<v Speaker 1>me up with I guess had the same agent at

834
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the time, or at least they were both represented by

835
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 1>ICM at the time, and set me up with Foreman's

836
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>daughter to have a conversation George Anne I think was

837
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 1>her nable to George something Georg George and something. And

838
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I assumed that they were going to want to do

839
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:43.519
<v Speaker 1>a boxing kind of so I prepared everything around about No, no,

840
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:47.519
<v Speaker 1>they had no interest in anything. Boxing was all about spirituality,

841
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:52.800
<v Speaker 1>which especially at the time, I knew nothing about. And

842
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 1>so I go and I present this whole idea for

843
00:45:56.480 --> 00:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a boxing angle sports angle to the show and she's like, no, you,

844
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 1>you didn't get the memo. This is about we want

845
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>it to be about spirituality. And I'll tell.

846
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:13.920
<v Speaker 5>You one more aspect just to explain why it happened

847
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:17.440
<v Speaker 5>to him. He has a San Squen napton which speaks

848
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 5>about huge desires of significance and recognition and feels like

849
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:27.599
<v Speaker 5>an instrument of higher forces, but sometimes it can go unacknowledged.

850
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:31.320
<v Speaker 5>So I think he felt like some kind of message

851
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.639
<v Speaker 5>they say, you know that person who is bringing the knowledge.

852
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 5>As soon as he felt it on his level, whatever

853
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:41.639
<v Speaker 5>he has seen you know the spirit, and he felt connected.

854
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:44.159
<v Speaker 5>I think he just wanted to deliver that knowledge to

855
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:44.920
<v Speaker 5>the other people.

856
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, he developed a meaningful thought. I don't know how

857
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.039
<v Speaker 1>big his ministry got, but it got pretty big.

858
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. I've interviewed him one

859
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:56.760
<v Speaker 3>hundred years ago at Newsday.

860
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>There was something, some function in New York that he

861
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:04.559
<v Speaker 2>was there, which happens a lot, and he grab somebody

862
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.800
<v Speaker 2>for a five minute interview, but he remember that. What

863
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:11.280
<v Speaker 2>lasted in my mind is he talked about how he

864
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:13.440
<v Speaker 2>knew he was on a bad path in life younger.

865
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 3>I believe he was. He was frustrated in life.

866
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:21.079
<v Speaker 2>He was committing crimes and there was a point where

867
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.800
<v Speaker 2>the police dogs were after him and he was rolling

868
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 2>around in the dirt so he can get his scent off,

869
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.119
<v Speaker 2>and he remembers and at that point.

870
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:29.960
<v Speaker 3>He said, what am I doing? Why am I? This

871
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:30.559
<v Speaker 3>is not for me.

872
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Then he gets into boxing and becomes an Olympic champ

873
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:35.760
<v Speaker 2>a few years later.

874
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 3>But I was I was struck by how you know

875
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:42.039
<v Speaker 3>he's so mean? He's saw this, he said at one

876
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.039
<v Speaker 3>point he was actually training with Sonny Listing.

877
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:47.800
<v Speaker 2>At one point when Sonny was much older, sparring what

878
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:50.519
<v Speaker 2>have you, and he very quickly was better than Sonny.

879
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Listening he could see and he got said as mean

880
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 2>as he was in the ring with those body blows.

881
00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:59.000
<v Speaker 2>He said that I hated that.

882
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.719
<v Speaker 3>I was better than my eye was growing up.

883
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 2>When I got better than my idols, I didn't get

884
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:04.360
<v Speaker 2>that fierceness.

885
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I got sad. And you could see sometimes in the

886
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:10.199
<v Speaker 3>way he fights he has like a If you look

887
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:11.880
<v Speaker 3>at all those fights, he didn't always look mean.

888
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes he looked a little tender in the head, like

889
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:18.199
<v Speaker 2>something was bothering him, something was conflicting in him. At

890
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:20.679
<v Speaker 2>least I picked up maybe because he told me that

891
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:21.800
<v Speaker 2>that I started to see it.

892
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 3>But he had a big heart, like Muhammad Ali did too.

893
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:29.440
<v Speaker 3>It's just they Foreman was unable to show his heart

894
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:30.480
<v Speaker 3>because Ali.

895
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Was much better with banter and knowing how to deal

896
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:35.599
<v Speaker 2>with people. Foreman not so much. Same thing with Larry Holmes.

897
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Didn't have a gift of gab, and we labeled these

898
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.800
<v Speaker 2>people as stupid dumb. But no, the Foreman had a real,

899
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:46.199
<v Speaker 2>really sweet good side that eventually came out with his

900
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:49.400
<v Speaker 2>with his ministry and everything else he's done, he did

901
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:50.239
<v Speaker 2>before he passed.

902
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Now, I don't know if this is how much money

903
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.559
<v Speaker 1>they made in terms of sales or what he sold

904
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:02.960
<v Speaker 1>the business for. But according to groc he made two

905
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars. Wow on the George Forman grill. Okay,

906
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 1>how many idiots bought that stupid fucking we had?

907
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 3>We had one. I was in college. I think I

908
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:16.119
<v Speaker 3>was in college. I used like five times.

909
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:18.800
<v Speaker 2>We put a little chicken on it, a little salt, pepper, garlic,

910
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:20.960
<v Speaker 2>padda and it was good. But cleaning it was a

911
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:22.360
<v Speaker 2>pain in me asked, but it was all. It was

912
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:24.719
<v Speaker 2>good for a young kid twenty three years old trying

913
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:27.039
<v Speaker 2>to make something nice for himself instead of peanut butter

914
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.159
<v Speaker 2>and jelly. I didn't like cleaning it, but it tastes good.

915
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 2>It worked, It worked great. I mean, the numbers speak

916
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:34.960
<v Speaker 2>for itself. Everybody bought one of those goddam big stuff

917
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:35.159
<v Speaker 2>for you.

918
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:37.039
<v Speaker 1>I think, all right, I'm gonna have to do a

919
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:40.039
<v Speaker 1>little diligence on the George Foreman grill to find out

920
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.760
<v Speaker 1>the genesis of it. Did he actually invent this thing

921
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.440
<v Speaker 1>or did he just get a call from Company X

922
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:49.480
<v Speaker 1>one day saying, hey, we want to put your name

923
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>slash your name on the side of a grill. Yes,

924
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.440
<v Speaker 1>probably that, Yeah, but two hundred million dollars worth of

925
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that and.

926
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:57.079
<v Speaker 3>Everybody jumped on it.

927
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.320
<v Speaker 2>But don't forget that was the big informer that when

928
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:03.440
<v Speaker 2>infomercials were huge in America, you couldn't go to bed

929
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:06.199
<v Speaker 2>at night past midnight without seeing a bunch of infomercials.

930
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:12.000
<v Speaker 2>There was an infomercial channel. America was different back then.

931
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:12.280
<v Speaker 1>An infomercial channel.

932
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, now you put this on TikTok.

933
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.800
<v Speaker 2>The TikTok shop would sell the grill without anybody fronting it,

934
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 2>without having a guy who was a former champ fronting it.

935
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Back then, boxers when their careers ended all tried to

936
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:25.199
<v Speaker 2>hawk things.

937
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:28.199
<v Speaker 3>Mufflers. Rocky Graziana wasmini Kee muffler.

938
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.880
<v Speaker 2>All these great old champs did outside of being a

939
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>greeter at a casino and shaking hands with people at

940
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.519
<v Speaker 2>the crabs table, they hawked stuff on TV.

941
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Ali should have just made a grill and completely trolled

942
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:44.199
<v Speaker 1>on the George Forming grill. He would have killed it

943
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.519
<v Speaker 1>and he would have made an extra two hundred million dollars.

944
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:49.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that would be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, mo'st the

945
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Muhammad Ali grill that would have killed them. That would

946
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 3>send them to a spiral forman.

947
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Great guy, great man, and uh yeah, just shame. But

948
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 2>seventy four, seventy six years old, I guess that's a

949
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:04.679
<v Speaker 2>good life. After being pounded in the head for so

950
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:07.360
<v Speaker 2>many years. He didn't show many signs of you know,

951
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Alzheimer's or dementia or that kind of head trauma.

952
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:11.800
<v Speaker 3>It was good till the end.

953
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they said it's a standard age for American citizens.

954
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:21.719
<v Speaker 5>I heard that, yes, recently a couple of days.

955
00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Years.

956
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:24.719
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but he's just sad it's still young, you know.

957
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I guess it's young. I'm starting to think it ain't young.

958
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:28.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's young.

959
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's young for a boxer, for professional

960
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:38.280
<v Speaker 1>But I saw something a while ago where they looked

961
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:43.199
<v Speaker 1>at the average lifespan of people in different professions, and

962
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>it's staggering the difference between, you know, a career like

963
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the worst was being a prison guard,

964
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:58.599
<v Speaker 1>a corrections officer. That's one of the lowest. It didn't

965
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:02.599
<v Speaker 1>even reach sixties, like he was. The average lifespan of

966
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.039
<v Speaker 1>correction officers. You're like, why would anyone ever go.

967
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Into Why would you want to do that?

968
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:11.679
<v Speaker 2>It's it's always that there's always a town where the

969
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:14.239
<v Speaker 2>jail is the main thing in the town. And maybe

970
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:16.639
<v Speaker 2>your father was a correction and you become the you know,

971
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.119
<v Speaker 2>they used to be honor in that. There's no more

972
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's no more honor in following what your

973
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.840
<v Speaker 2>father did, you know what I mean. Like in other cultures,

974
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:28.920
<v Speaker 2>it's honorable. Japanese Asian culture, it seems to be what

975
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:31.519
<v Speaker 2>your father and grandfather did you do, even if it's

976
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:33.519
<v Speaker 2>not a lot of money. If your father made shoes

977
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and your grandfather you made shoes.

978
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:36.920
<v Speaker 3>It's not like that in America.

979
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:38.960
<v Speaker 2>We just all want to get out and become big

980
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:43.039
<v Speaker 2>and make, you know, be bigger than the last generation, richer, smarter,

981
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, have a bigger house just well.

982
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:48.559
<v Speaker 1>But also part of parenthood is wanting a better life

983
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:51.480
<v Speaker 1>for your kids. Yeah, and so you're trying to push

984
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>them into something that's seen as in ascent from where

985
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:57.519
<v Speaker 1>you were. And then also you've got just generation to

986
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:02.400
<v Speaker 1>generation technology changes so much that it sangs every it's

987
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:04.320
<v Speaker 1>hard to do that changed everything.

988
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:06.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even sure my kids, I'm not. I mean,

989
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't talk to Roco about college much. I think

990
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:10.000
<v Speaker 2>he wants to go.

991
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:12.519
<v Speaker 3>But it's like when we were young we knew we

992
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 3>were going to college. I mean, we knew it. I

993
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:15.320
<v Speaker 3>don't think.

994
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:17.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean there was those kids who stayed and God

995
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:20.719
<v Speaker 2>bless them their copper. There's electricians and plumbers and firemen, cops,

996
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:22.000
<v Speaker 2>God blessed those guys.

997
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I just knew I was going to go to school.

998
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:25.679
<v Speaker 3>I always didn't you. I mean, you knew it. I'm

999
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:28.840
<v Speaker 3>sure your father preached higher education and you did very

1000
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:29.320
<v Speaker 3>well with it.

1001
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 6>But nowadays I don't know, Well the ROI was obvious

1002
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:39.719
<v Speaker 6>that during at that time in history, because college didn't

1003
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:44.000
<v Speaker 6>cost anything, even adjusting for standard of living.

1004
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:48.360
<v Speaker 1>What you paid in the eighties for a top university

1005
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>versus what you paid today for a top university.

1006
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.760
<v Speaker 3>It's what is it, ninety eight year, one hundred a year.

1007
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Well some are at least seventy you're going to pay

1008
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>to for a private university of some prestige, and you

1009
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.800
<v Speaker 1>know that's four x you know when we were paying

1010
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.519
<v Speaker 1>in the in the eighties for those same schools, and

1011
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:13.760
<v Speaker 1>so it's gotten to where and also you know, you

1012
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:19.800
<v Speaker 1>look at the specialization and these liberal arts educations where

1013
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:23.280
<v Speaker 1>when we went to school, a lot of people, just

1014
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:25.639
<v Speaker 1>the majority of people just went and got a degree,

1015
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:30.079
<v Speaker 1>a liberal arts degree, and then you just go to

1016
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:34.840
<v Speaker 1>whatever industry was willing to hire you, where today it's

1017
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>far more specialized, and you're also competing against a huge

1018
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 1>foreign population that comes into this country to go to

1019
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:47.320
<v Speaker 1>school and go to work, which would be a good

1020
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:52.360
<v Speaker 1>thing if if our president sort of controls that a

1021
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:54.079
<v Speaker 1>little bit over the next four years.

1022
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:56.840
<v Speaker 3>But you didn't study in America, did you? Did you study?

1023
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:59.800
<v Speaker 3>You go to college in America or always in.

1024
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:04.039
<v Speaker 7>Your studied, Yes, it is, it is.

1025
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.159
<v Speaker 3>It very expensive in Europe as well.

1026
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:10.760
<v Speaker 5>My university was very expensive because it was diplomatic university. Yes,

1027
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:14.119
<v Speaker 5>it's probably the most expensive in the country.

1028
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:16.519
<v Speaker 3>So you come from a family.

1029
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Your father was very, very learned and well read, right,

1030
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:22.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean he went he was what was your father

1031
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:24.400
<v Speaker 2>what was your follows line of work?

1032
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:27.000
<v Speaker 7>Again, fat industry.

1033
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.239
<v Speaker 5>We had a milk factory and a manufactory some flour

1034
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.960
<v Speaker 5>based factory margarine victories existing until now.

1035
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:36.639
<v Speaker 3>But he wanted you to be he wanted you to.

1036
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:40.639
<v Speaker 5>Me to be in that in the same industry because

1037
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.440
<v Speaker 5>he was an innovator. It's not about all in the factories.

1038
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:49.440
<v Speaker 5>He was producing the new type of oil high equally oil.

1039
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 5>He was some kind of investigator how it could be

1040
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:56.599
<v Speaker 5>useful for your health because he believed that it can

1041
00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:58.360
<v Speaker 5>cur up to the cancer.

1042
00:55:58.679 --> 00:55:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1043
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:02.320
<v Speaker 5>My father was kind of of engineering brain plus businessman

1044
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:06.519
<v Speaker 5>plus and dream which matters. And I've been to conferences

1045
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.079
<v Speaker 5>with him to buy at a different places. Actually, you know,

1046
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:10.599
<v Speaker 5>it was interesting time for me.

1047
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1048
00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 4>He always wanted me to inherit it.

1049
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 5>And my cousin is really in the factory now because

1050
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:19.239
<v Speaker 5>it's your My uncle started it. So they worked together,

1051
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:22.199
<v Speaker 5>my father and my uncle, And I know I was

1052
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:24.679
<v Speaker 5>interested in that, to be honest, That's why I will.

1053
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But Mike, you kind of followed your father's footsteps

1054
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:29.639
<v Speaker 3>as well, for sure.

1055
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, he was in the radio industry for for

1056
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:39.360
<v Speaker 1>years and actually got out. I think he retired in

1057
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:44.880
<v Speaker 1>seventy nine, is that right seventy nine? No, because I

1058
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.880
<v Speaker 1>went to I think he retired in sorry eighty three

1059
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and the next year I was dumb school and in

1060
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the workforce.

1061
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:56.679
<v Speaker 2>So and then he did he want you to go

1062
00:56:56.719 --> 00:56:58.360
<v Speaker 2>on that field or you just liked what he did,

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00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:00.280
<v Speaker 2>you liked how he provided you know what?

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00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:05.199
<v Speaker 1>He never he never pressured me to do it, but

1065
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:11.119
<v Speaker 1>I I pressured him to help me land in internship. Sure, uh,

1066
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:16.079
<v Speaker 1>two different summers during school and he did. And then

1067
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I got exposure to a number of people. I fell

1068
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>in love with everything. And then yeah, I leveraged those

1069
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:25.800
<v Speaker 1>people to to help me get my first gig.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's funny.

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00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean you you you guys had fathers that I mean.

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00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:33.440
<v Speaker 2>My father was great. He just never pointed me toward

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00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:35.159
<v Speaker 2>a career. Whatever I said I wanted to be.

1074
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:38.880
<v Speaker 3>This TV great, they just said do it, you could

1075
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:39.920
<v Speaker 3>do it, do whatever you want.

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00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:44.360
<v Speaker 2>But I wasn't push toward anything. But yeah, there's something

1077
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:46.519
<v Speaker 2>he said for for a father or a parent that

1078
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:48.280
<v Speaker 2>tells you you should do this, you're good in this

1079
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.039
<v Speaker 2>versus a guy like me who just decided I'm gonna

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00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:53.360
<v Speaker 2>do what I want to do and.

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00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:57.920
<v Speaker 7>That it's much better, much better.

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00:57:58.199 --> 00:57:59.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't blame my parents.

1083
00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:00.679
<v Speaker 7>Never gave me the best.

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00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:01.639
<v Speaker 3>No, I think that's great.

1085
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:03.360
<v Speaker 4>I thought I kind of last.

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00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:05.760
<v Speaker 5>Five years and to have do a master's degree in

1087
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:09.719
<v Speaker 5>economic international relationships when I wanted to go like.

1088
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:14.480
<v Speaker 4>Mike's father, to be unready and television.

1089
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:17.559
<v Speaker 5>And what I'm doing right now after develop twenty years apart,

1090
00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:20.679
<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to build my name in this industry again

1091
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:24.639
<v Speaker 5>in podcasting and broadcasting. So coming back to my roots,

1092
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:27.480
<v Speaker 5>my personal roots, not what my parents wanted to Yeah,

1093
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:29.239
<v Speaker 5>so I think.

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<v Speaker 3>You're lucky, No, But I think the part of the

1095
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:33.079
<v Speaker 3>reason is you both grew up.

1096
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:36.039
<v Speaker 2>You both grew up well you guys, you know, had

1097
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:39.400
<v Speaker 2>means and stuff and we really didn't. And I viewed

1098
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:41.840
<v Speaker 2>my father's career as a salesman ian before that, he

1099
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:46.159
<v Speaker 2>was a very significant undercover cop in New York. That

1100
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:49.519
<v Speaker 2>was his fifties and sixties job. But as a salesman,

1101
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I viewed his job as I don't want to go

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00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:53.559
<v Speaker 2>to an office every day and come home at nine

1103
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:55.440
<v Speaker 2>o'clock at night and have dinner.

1104
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:57.199
<v Speaker 3>And that's not for me, man.

1105
00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to do something big. So his career made

1106
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:02.960
<v Speaker 2>me want to do the opposite. And I got into

1107
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:04.880
<v Speaker 2>sales in my life, which I'm good at, but it's

1108
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:08.360
<v Speaker 2>not exciting enough for me. So it's funny with our parents,

1109
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:11.239
<v Speaker 2>what they leave us, what they push us toward. You know,

1110
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:13.280
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you want to do the opposite of what you

1111
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:14.199
<v Speaker 2>saw growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, some parents are very involved in everything going on

1114
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:24.800
<v Speaker 1>with their kids' education growing up, and some are some

1115
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:27.440
<v Speaker 1>are at a great distance, like, yeah, I looked. My

1116
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.719
<v Speaker 1>parents never did my homework with me once, never looked

1117
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:34.400
<v Speaker 1>at my homework. I would get I would get asked

1118
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:38.920
<v Speaker 1>occasionally whether I had done it or not, and usually look,

1119
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 1>high school was so easy for us. You always had

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00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:45.199
<v Speaker 1>a study hall, and you could manipulate doing your homework

1121
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:48.440
<v Speaker 1>around when you had study hall, except that half the

1122
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:50.639
<v Speaker 1>time in study hall you'd end up we'd end up

1123
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:53.519
<v Speaker 1>sitting next to each other and shooting spitballs of people

1124
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:56.840
<v Speaker 1>for an hour and not getting anything done. But it

1125
00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:00.400
<v Speaker 1>was ridiculous how easy its high school was. But but

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01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:03.960
<v Speaker 1>we never like my I can't believe the amount of

1127
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:08.360
<v Speaker 1>time my wife. I can't believe her level of involvement

1128
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:11.840
<v Speaker 1>in the amount of time she spends, like it's her

1129
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.920
<v Speaker 1>responsibility in her mind to think about the internships that

1130
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.599
<v Speaker 1>my son needs to have for the summer. And you

1131
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:23.480
<v Speaker 1>know she's on him in December over break asking about

1132
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:24.719
<v Speaker 1>what he's arranged for the sun.

1133
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:25.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's good.

1134
01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I know he's nineteen year old years old. He's thinking

1135
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.239
<v Speaker 1>about you know, whether it's fake id's going to get

1136
01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:34.320
<v Speaker 1>him into the bars or not, and you know whether

1137
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:36.320
<v Speaker 1>he's going to get laid before the year ends. You

1138
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:40.280
<v Speaker 1>know it's but but she's right, and the competition is

1139
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:42.400
<v Speaker 1>fears for all these things, and you have to do

1140
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that stuff.

1141
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:45.920
<v Speaker 2>So I know, I know, I still have not seen

1142
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:49.679
<v Speaker 2>my son Roxy straight A's National Arted Society. I started

1143
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.280
<v Speaker 2>to homework. I've never seen Rock. I'll open a book

1144
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:56.119
<v Speaker 2>at home. Ever, he's a's and a beer or two.

1145
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:59.079
<v Speaker 2>He's a good student. I've never seen a bunch of

1146
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.599
<v Speaker 2>But we went home with books. I remember we did homework.

1147
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:05.280
<v Speaker 2>We took shut not a lot of it, but still,

1148
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean I didn't school work did become as easily

1149
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:08.960
<v Speaker 2>to me as it came to you.

1150
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:11.559
<v Speaker 3>I could have been eighty five or harder.

1151
01:01:11.559 --> 01:01:13.360
<v Speaker 2>But I love fucking around having bunch, so I probably

1152
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:16.199
<v Speaker 2>finished an eighty, which you know, it's okay, but I

1153
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:17.239
<v Speaker 2>could have been better.

1154
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:19.599
<v Speaker 3>I just love having fun. I love chasing girls.

1155
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I just it was too when you sit next to

1156
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Chico and Agavino and Kenny Wood and Bob Passio. I

1157
01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:26.679
<v Speaker 2>don't know how you guys even learned. I was laughing

1158
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 2>my balls off every day so far. We're still doing

1159
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.119
<v Speaker 2>that now. So it goes to I'm still telling those

1160
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:34.480
<v Speaker 2>stories about all of us, so clearly it meant.

1161
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:34.800
<v Speaker 3>A lot to me.

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01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, we were. We were bad, man, we were

1163
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:40.519
<v Speaker 1>we were. We were not good.

1164
01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, but I wouldn't trade it for

1165
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:43.079
<v Speaker 3>the world.

1166
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Neither would I. Neither would well, folks. I had another angle,

1167
01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:51.199
<v Speaker 1>another story for us, but I think we're going to

1168
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:52.840
<v Speaker 1>run out of steam and not be able to do

1169
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that one. You know what, Let's do that on everything.

1170
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's do that on everything. As forward to that, we'll

1171
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:01.639
<v Speaker 1>hold back and talk about that one here. Thanks for listening, folks,

1172
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:05.079
<v Speaker 1>and we'll pop back at you next week, all right, gang,

1173
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.
