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Speaker 3: Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in you of

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a Wildcat inshider. We got Jason Sheer on the lie. Jason,

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how are you living?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining.

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Speaker 5: Us, Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: We got a big game around the corner BYU versus

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U of A, my brother, the U of A fan

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who is flying in from New Mexico to watch. This

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game should be a big one. How give us a

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little update on U of A right now? How are

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they playing? What are they looking like? Obviously the top

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team in the country, But.

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Speaker 4: What have you seen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think things in Big twelve play

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of n cover as of late. I mean Cincinnati was

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the last game, and they played Arizona close for a

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half before Arizona blew them out. At UCF was close

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for a half until that game kind of spread and

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then you know, they have West Virginia tomorrow, which could

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be a kind of a sneaky game with the short

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turnaround between then and b YU and all that. But

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they continue to roll I mean, they're just they're they're

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playing really good basketball. They're beating teams and in different ways,

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and they haven't really had that that really scary game.

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I mean, I guess U c l A Was probably

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the closest thing early in the year to that that

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scary game that comes down to the last minute or

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two minutes. But most games that they've played have kind

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of been decided by then.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the identity of the issue of a team?

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Would you say?

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know, it's unique because they don't shoot a

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lot of threes at all. They're the in terms of

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three point attempts, they're the lowest of any Power four team.

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They beat you up physically, they rebound, they defend, and

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and they score inside and and you know, it's just

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they they kind of it comes in waves with with

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Crebus at center. They have two starting quality power forwards.

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The guards are solid. They just kind of beat you

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up and and wear you down. And that's kind of

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what we saw, for instance, the Cincinnati game. That game

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was close and then all of a sudden, Cincinnati just

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didn't have the horses and Arizona scored them thirty seven

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to thirteen in the second half. And a lot of

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teams have done that. You know, Arizona has done that

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to a lot of teams. So they kind of just

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wear them down with the size and the defense and

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the rebounding and kind of pull away in the second half.

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Speaker 3: What's the scouting report right now on the Cougars. Have

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you been able to sit down with the coaches and

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find out what they're seeing from byu uh?

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Speaker 2: Not yet?

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Speaker 5: You know, the focus on is on West Virginia, But

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you know, for b YU is good. I think everyone

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realizes they're they're really good. That you know, that core

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three guys that they have will put that against anybody

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in the nation. And going on the road, I think

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they know, you know, Arizona has been in at Connecticut

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and they played a couple of boutral court games and

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like Burbingham whatever, but nothing's going to come close to

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probably what they see on Monday. They know that's going

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to be an insane environment and probably they're one of

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their hardest games to date this season.

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Speaker 3: The the b y u U of a rivalry I

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think is gonna be a fun one to in the future.

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Obviously BA football and you of A football. They've had

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some good head to heads historically, not only in the

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former conference.

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Speaker 4: Now with the cur current conference, that was a nail bider.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: This last year in Tucson, a wild and wet one.

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Uh that the storm they came through. But I feel

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like basketball is going to be maybe even better.

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Speaker 5: Your thoughts, Yeah, you know, it's interesting someone on I

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was talking to someone the other day and no, Arizona's

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rival in the PAC twelve was was was U c

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l A?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: And and now it's UCLA is one game a season

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and maybe that goes away in the next few years

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or whatever, and then a SU isn't good at basketball?

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think b YU is probably the ends that makes the

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most sense, you know, close in terms of location, relatively close,

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and they're not one anywhere, you know, with with that

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coaching staff and the NI and all that, that YU

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basketball team is gonna you know, they're They're not kind

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of a flash in the paan at least I don't

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think they are. And it's fun, you know, it's it's

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super talented teams. When you look at the conference in

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terms of pure talent, you can make the case that

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the UYU is up there with anyone even in the nation,

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and so it's gonna be a fun one. They've already

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had close games. I expect another exciting game on Monday.

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So I think it's kind of, you know, natural, that

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that these two teams kind of become a rivalry, similar

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to what you said with with football, generally speaking, these

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games are close and they tend to be fun football games,

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and I think it's it's going to be the same

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for basketball.

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Speaker 3: Jason Sheer on the line, Wildcat Authority uh part of

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the two four seven Sports Network here on your Utah

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ESPN Radio network, getting into the phone a little bit,

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getting prep, getting ready.

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Speaker 4: What what weaknesses does.

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Speaker 3: You you of A have, right, if you're going to

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kind of poke holes into what you of A doesn't

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do too well, what are the weaknesses you know?

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Speaker 5: I guess it would be outside shooting. It's it's interesting because, well,

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you know, I mentioned that, like they don't shoot threes.

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It's just that a team so far hasn't been able

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to force Arizona to only shoot threes and eventually we're

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gonna come across the opponent that says, let's put everyone

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in the paint and Arizona to shoot threes and see

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what happens, And that would probably be the weakness to me. Also,

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you know their bench right now. Toby walk is fantastic,

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but Anthony Delorso, who's kind of supposed to be their

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offensive spark off the bench, has really struggled in being

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twelve play He's not been good at all. So I

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think that's probably a weakness right now. It's just their

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overall wing depths, guard depths coming off the bench, and

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then their ability to shoot threes. I don't know if

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it's a weakness as much as it is a question

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because we haven't seen a team that has been able

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to force Arizona into shooting threes, and so when that happens.

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would be something that would be a concern down the road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, there's not much weakness in this U

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of a podcast team. How did they compose this team?

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You know, what was the transfer portal like this offseason?

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What was the attrition and the additions.

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Speaker 4: On the roster.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, their biggest priority was retaining their point guard, Jaden Browley,

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and and he's been absolutely fantastic. He's been one of

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the best point guards in the country. That was their

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number one priority. They were not gonna let him go.

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They made that very clear that they wanted to keep him.

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the Brandon Burriez was a top ranked freshman, they got him.

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CoA Pete was a top ranked freshman, they got him.

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They went overseas to get Ivon Kharchenhov, who's has probably

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been the biggest surprise. He started at the small forward position.

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And then it was all about retaining guests. You know,

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they retained Toby o Waka, they retained Mo Krebis at

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the be the starting center. You know, they retained Anthony Door. So,

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like I said, and so you know, it's always going

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to be a mixture of development and kind of adding

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the pieces in the portal. Next year they'll probably have

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to add a little bit more in the portal because

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guys are leaving. But they were able to kind of

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mix and match, and you know, a lot of the

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discussion around Arizona is how young they are. They have

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freshman's at three of the you know, five starting positions.

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and so they rely on youth.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time.

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Speaker 5: They got guys like Bradley and Crevis and Awaka who

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have been there, and so it's a good mixture of talent.

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And I think that in terms of roster construction, this

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is probably by far, in my opinion, at least Tommy

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Lloyd's best job of putting the roster together and making

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sure the piece is fit.

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Speaker 3: The Big Twelve is the g league with university logos.

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Speaker 4: It's a very talented, deep gauntlet league.

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Speaker 3: I've made the statement that the SEC thinks that in

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football they have a gauntlet. That is a farce, that

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is fictitious, that is a lie. The true gauntlet resides

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in the Big Twelve basketball gauntlet. This conference is ridiculous.

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The strength of schedule for all these teams is robust.

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Speaker 5: Your thoughts, It's insane, it really is. And like I mean,

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I would say, it goes off to a hot start,

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it looks like one of the best teams in the country,

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and they lose two games and you look at it

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and you're like, Okay, You're like, like, that's gonna happen

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to a lot of teams in the Big twelve. And

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you know, you look at you know, Houston and BYU

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and in Arizona, and you know, even I was State,

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and you look at these teams kids, is when they're

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healthy is awesome. I mean, the top of the conference

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is so good. And even then, you know we focus

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on the top, but like UCF is having a really

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nice season, TCU is still you know in hard out there.

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They're a hard team to play. And so you know,

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to me, yeah, the SEC has some good teams at

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the top, but I don't think the conference as a

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whole is a strong Allen's the Big Twelve is there's

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not an easy game in the Big Twelve. You might

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see some bailouts because there's some really good teams, but

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there's no games where you go, man, that's that's going

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to be super easy. It's just it doesn't exist in

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the Big Twelve, especially when you have to go on

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the road and you know, Arizona schedule from here on out,

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like starting out with the BYU game, and there's gonna

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be some difficult games. I mean the stretch. They have

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not faced that stretch yet where they've played, you know,

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Iowa States and Houston's and Texas Texas.

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Speaker 2: And all that. Like it is. It is a very.

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Speaker 5: Difficult conference, and I think that's part of what makes

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Speaker 3: It makes it, uh, it's a blash. Do you feel

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like you've ays been overall the athletic department been happy

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with the move from the PAC twelve to the Big twelve. Well,

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what's been the assessment after being in the league now

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't heard any complaints at all. And I know,

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there's I feel like the competitive balance in the Big

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twelve is better than it was. You know, it's just

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it's it's easier financially, you know. I think there's more

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support in the Big twelve than there was and PAC

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maybe there's some concern with travel and things like that.

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the ability to get out there nationally has been significantly better.

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coach since it's all started complaining about being in the

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Speaker 4: Well there you go.

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Speaker 3: I mean from an administrative standpoint, like the administration everything

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all Rainbow, Sunshine and everything else.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think what they're finding out is

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is and with the new the newer ad DEESI a

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read frand squat Arizona. You know, football, I think it's

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getting more focused, not necessarily in basketball. Arizona's always going

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to be a basketball school, but I think also with

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the Big Twelve, you know, you're able to kind of

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football will always be kidding. But I think it's a

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breath of fresh air when you look at the Big

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team seems to be involved in basketball, where as opposed

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in the past, maybe there are teams like in Oregon

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State or Washington State or whatever who maybe weren't all

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in in basketball or weren't. You know, basketball wasn't as

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important to them. When you look at the Big twelve.

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I think that's important for school like Arizona.

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Speaker 4: I know we're talking hoop here, but give me an eve.

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football season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean to me, it was just a or d.

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You know, like I surprised me. I thought Arizona would

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fight to make a bowl before the season, when I

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saw them in spring and all that, and you know,

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I think the biggest surprise was just the defense. The

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defense was really really good dandigan Zalez did an excellent job.

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They lost in the Holiday Bowl. Had they won, it

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would have been a ten win season, which doesn't happen

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with Arizona football, but a really fun season. Won the

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won the Territorial Cup against a if you competed really

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for pretty much every game this season. They weren't blown out.

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they competed in every game and just a fun watch

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and Bret Brennan got some momentum after. You know, Arizona

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wasn't good in the first year, and we'll see how

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it carries on to his third year.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: How many double did you win seasons as you have

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a football had, I don't know in the modern era.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, not many. I think you probably counted on

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one hand. It doesn't It does not happen, absolutely, I

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think I'm trying to think off the top of my head,

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but I think this would have been that like the eighth.

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Speaker 4: Ever eighth ever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I mean it's it's it would have been

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a very big deal had they got them head to win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just pulled it up right here. So ninety three

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ten wins, ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Twelve wins, twenty fourteen to ten wins, twenty twenty three

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ten wins.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it would have been It would have been

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a very very big deal.

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Speaker 4: Huh crazy.

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Speaker 3: And what's interesting is like nine wins doesn't even come

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about all that often, you know, typically like the best

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you get his eight and five in the last thirty years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it just it just doesn't happen. But

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there's other football in that. And I think the biggest

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thing also is consistency. Like even when you look at

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those teams at one, you know, the eight, nine, ten, games.

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and that'll be Bret Brettan's challenge too, and it'll be

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interesting to see if he could keep it up because

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a lot of times you look like coaches left or

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they were, you know, they kind of ran their course.

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Like rich Rod did well at Arizona, got them to

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that point and then he fell off the same with Scoops,

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and so it'll be interesting. It's about which coach, you know,

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Brent hopefully can make this a consistent successful program. That's

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been the challenge in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: How was you of a football done in the transfer portal?

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Speaker 4: What have they lost?

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Speaker 5: So they're you know, Brett Bredman is very big on

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retaining the roster. So it's similar to Jaden Bradley with basketball.

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I said their number one priority was retaining No F

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F quarterback and they were able to do that and

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then from there, you know, it was retaining the younger guys.

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sides of the ball. They were able to do that.

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The biggest priority was getting better on the offensive line,

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and then Arizona lost all their safeties Genesis Smith Dalton

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Johnson and traded Stukes, and so they had to replace that,

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and so they went to the portal and they basically

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rebuilt the whole secondary and there's gonna be competition there.

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And they went with some guys from smaller schools and

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some guys from bigger schools that maybe didn't pan out there.

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And so that would be the biggest question heading into

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spring ball is how those guys do in the secondary

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and what kind of drop off there will be, if any,

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and there's if the drop offs not big. They you know,

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they nailed the transfer portal again, but it was mostly

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about retaining and then filling needs. They took twenty guys.

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took twenty and a lot of them are on the

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defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: Which acquisition are you most excited about? And which attrition

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were Where was you the U of a Wildcat Nation,

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the Wildcat Authority Nation most sad about?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know the one I'm most excited about. You know,

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Traden Steeks was really good last year.

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Speaker 2: They lost him.

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Speaker 5: I hope he gets drafted. If not, you know, he

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had a great Arizona career, but they were placed on

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Miss Nebraska Trands or Malcolm Hertzog who was injured this

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past season. But really good player, I mean really good player.

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He should be able to step in and play well

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right away. They didn't really lose any one in the

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portal that was on the too deep. The biggest issue

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was just graduations, Like all these guys kind of graduated,

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they they went, you know, they hit the transfer portal hard,

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really hard last year and to some of their better players,

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you know, that whole secondary. Those guys graduated. To Sean

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McKnight on the defensive line, he graduated. So I think

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in terms of low in the portal, there really weren't any.

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It was just kind of matter of these guys college

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careers ending and then having to replay him.

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Speaker 3: What's the buzz around Jake Griffin? I know he's Arizona product.

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I think he can't remember if he came out of

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Mountain View or Mesa Red Mountain. He ended up at

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by US a rotational tackle, saw some pt for byu

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what's the buzz around Jake Griffin coming down to UVA.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, his brother Jackson is also alignment on the team.

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It'll be interesting guy. I think he's probably more of

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a death guy right now. But they're gonna have an

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open competition at one of the tackle spots. They were

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able to get a six year for Tristan Bounds, who

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was the starting tackle last year, so that's locked up.

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But the other tackle position, it's gonna be wide open,

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and so Griffin will be able to compete up that

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and it'll be interesting to see. There's gonna be a

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few positions on the O line that are kind of

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up for grabs.

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Speaker 3: I know we're trying not to look ahead, but how

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do you think how do you say the or how

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do you think the by u U of.

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Speaker 4: A basketball game is gonna play out at the Merrit Center.

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Speaker 5: You know, I would love for Arizona to go undefeated.

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I am a firm believer, and I don't get like

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college basketball is so different than college football. College basketball

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there's so many more games college football. You lose one

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game and your whole season can change. Arizona is not

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going undefeated, I could say, at least I don't think

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they are. I think b YU is a really tough game.

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I just think going in that environment, you know, Arizona

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is playing Saturday at twelve, and then they're flying at

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Buyu and they were at UCF last week. Short turned

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around like eventually, it still kind of catches up to you.

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And I think b Yu is super talented. I actually

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for a while have had Monday Petsula that Arizona's first lost.

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I just think it's a tougher environment. B Uyu is

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really good. They match up pretty well with Arizona. But

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I think it's going to be a heck of a

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game either way.

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Speaker 3: We only got four slots, and I was like, you know,

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let's put obviously you got to go with with Danny Ainge,

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the Jimmer Fordets, and you go with Sean Bradley who

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you know, should we put in Choset or Jimmer in

476
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the most Talented All Time BYU poll? And we only

477
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have four slots, so I'm like, oh, let's just put

478
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Jimmer in because not a lot of people have seen

479
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Chosets and it caused a bit of a crapstorm with

480
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some Bay fan instead. Apparently have U, you know, a

481
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love and appreciation for chose, which I do as well.

482
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One of the most unique players to ever come through

483
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BYU and had probably the best, uh one of the best, uh,

484
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I would say careers. Professionally, he just played overseas, so

485
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not as many people got to watch him. But I

486
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wanted to delve into it with a former BYU.

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the hotline. Welcome in the Brazilian bomber former BYU Great.

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We got Jonatha Tevin already talks in BAU basketball and

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I JC how that go?

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Speaker 4: Are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good man? Hey? Ron? Can you tell how his

503
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voice is?

504
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Speaker 6: Not like Deli Obama one of my best friends ever,

505
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and you know, like hey, and he is over there,

506
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just like Hey, we're gonna come in. You know, just

507
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some dude that played the BYU I guess we went

508
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to school together.

509
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Speaker 2: And what do you tell you?

510
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Speaker 3: I gave you it a former BYU Great BYU basketball

511
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player Jonathan Tabinari.

512
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Speaker 4: I gave it to your heart. I gave it to you,

513
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good Ben.

514
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Speaker 2: I love you of all my heart.

515
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Speaker 6: But how in the world do you leave out one

516
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of the guys that has his jersey retired on the

517
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rafters at BYU.

518
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Speaker 3: Come on, look, look so hard. Let's go baseline here. Okay,

519
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what is talent? What's the definition of talent as you

520
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see it? What's your definition of talent?

521
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Speaker 6: That you are naturally gifted and able to accomplish something

522
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and you see it?

523
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Speaker 2: That is it's a natural.

524
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Speaker 4: Ability, right inate ability?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I hope I'm explaining myself right, but like

526
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you know, like for instance, you clearly have the ability

527
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and you you clearly have talent to be able to

528
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do this on air thing, right, I mean it's not

529
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like you. I mean you work at it, you work

530
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at your craft, but you just you started doing and

531
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you did it. Our brother, because we're both very close

532
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to him, Jen George Andsen try to do this for

533
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a living, and he wasn't able to do it because

534
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it didn't come to him naturally. And so like, like

535
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a definition of talent is are you able to like

536
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do something naturally and you're just so.

537
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Speaker 2: Good at it that even you know, when you.

538
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Speaker 6: Actually start honing your craft, you actually become something like

539
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really really good, right, and so like, are you.

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Speaker 2: Just naturally able to do something?

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Speaker 6: And you know, like I don't want to take away

542
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from like out of Gimmer or Danny Ainge or a

543
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j right like, but like, for instance, Sean, Sean was

544
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incredibly gifted to be seven foot what is he seven

545
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four seven five?

546
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Speaker 5: Right?

547
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Speaker 2: I mean he was you know, he was blessed to

548
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be seven to six.

549
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Speaker 6: And so now did he have natural talent syllabilities?

550
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Speaker 2: Of course he did. He was able to run.

551
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Speaker 7: You know, the dunk that you posted of him in.

552
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Speaker 2: The highlight is really good.

553
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Speaker 6: But nonetheless, like you know, Choseich had a natural talent

554
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with the basketball, you know of understanding of high IQ

555
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and passing.

556
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Speaker 2: I mean, when you look at.

557
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Speaker 6: Creso's entire legacy at basketball, right, because then to your point,

558
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we're going to extend to pass the BYU because if

559
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you do, then you know, he truly becomes arguably the

560
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greatest BYU player of all time because he's the only

561
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one in the Hall of Fame.

562
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Speaker 2: And so there's a lot to them back.

563
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Speaker 4: Here, right, there's no doubt.

564
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Speaker 3: Look I told you, and look I wanted to put

565
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Chosch on there. It was actually for me, like when

566
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you have a limitation afore. And like I said in

567
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my follow up tweet, I probably should have just kept

568
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it open ended. I should have just added the five

569
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guys that I think are the most talented, right and

570
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and included Chosich.

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Speaker 4: The only reason why I didn't I picked Jimmer was because.

572
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Speaker 3: Of the modern era fan on X and they're gonna

573
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probably click on Jimmer, which I was.

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Speaker 4: I was right.

575
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Speaker 3: They're picking Jimmer more than they're picking a Sean Bradley

576
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there in more than they're even picking.

577
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Speaker 4: A Danny Ainge.

578
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Speaker 3: Right, So it's either a j to Bons or Jim

579
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or why because of the demographic that's on Twitter?

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Speaker 4: Does that make sense? Like you can see it in the.

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Speaker 6: Even And here's the thing too about Danny, right, I mean, Danny,

582
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if you really want to stop and think about it,

583
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Danny Age was the high school American in football, in

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baseball and basketball. I mean, are you talking about your talent?

585
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You know what I'm saying, like in me as to

586
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be Denny, you know, Bio Mile, there's not a.

587
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Speaker 4: Wrong answer in all This is what I'm getting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's not meant to be controversial, It's meant

589
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to kind of like it was it was off the

590
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cuff we were talking about it. I was literally talking

591
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to Kevin Nixon and we we started talking like talented

592
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players and and I was like, dude, like, you know,

593
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it's interesting because Sean Bradley, I think is one of

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the more I think he is one of the more

595
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disrespected players in boa basketballas because he was he was

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a true one and done. He was He's our only

597
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one and done outside of aj To Bonsa. And he

598
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went second overall in the NBA draft in ninety three,

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and he would have gone first overall in ninety one

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over Larry Johnson had he come out after that nineteen

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ninety one season. Part of that has to do with

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Part of that has to do a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of or went on his mission.

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Speaker 3: He if he would have just decided after that first

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year at BYU to go to the NBA, he would

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have been the first overall NBA right when he got

607
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back off his mission, which hurt him physically, was not

608
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wise for him long term. He ended up going second

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overall in the NBA draft, and I believe it was

610
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I want to say Chris Weber went before him, okay,

611
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which we all know Chris Weber an all time great

612
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and one of the best coming out of Michigan and

613
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had a long story career in the NBA, but like

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he's our only one and done besides now aj Debontsa.

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And so I was like, man, it's kind of like

616
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the disrespect that Sean Bradley gets is crazy to me

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because he's.

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Speaker 4: Literally one of five guys I know.

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Speaker 3: His his his BYU basketball career. I mean they went

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to a round of thirty two and he was good,

621
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and he was like labeled as like a freak.

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Speaker 4: I mean you watch him run.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, he can gallop, Obviously he can jump, and he

624
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could actually handle for a seven foot six.

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Speaker 4: Guy, I mean he does some freakishly.

626
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Speaker 3: And this is nineteen ninety one, this is almost forty

627
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years ago. I mean it was he was kind of

628
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an anomaly. But he's one of only five players in

629
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the NBA to have twenty plus points, twenty plus rebounds

630
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in ten plus blocks in a playoff game.

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Speaker 4: In the NBA.

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Speaker 3: And and like, when I talk talent, I think ceiling,

633
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I think tangibles. I think like these innate natural things

634
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that you know can be developed, but they're more natural, right,

635
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And I'm like, man, Sean.

636
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Speaker 4: Bradley kind of gets discredited.

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Speaker 3: So like when you chimed in and said specifically that

638
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Chosi should replace Sean, I don't know necessarily I agree

639
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with that. What I would say is the debate here

640
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is does Jimmer from a talent standpoint? And it depends

641
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on how you determine what talent is. Is Jimmer Fredett

642
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one of the four most talented players in BOE basketball?

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Speaker 4: I think you for me it was Jimmer versus Chosich.

644
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Speaker 3: I actually wanted to put Choseich just so you know,

645
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I erased it and put Jimmer because I knew BYU

646
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,720
fans are gonna get ticked off at me for not

647
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,599
putting Jimmer. That's what happened with my poll, just so

648
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,880
you know, honest to goodness, one transparency, that's what I did.

649
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Speaker 5: Is it?

650
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Speaker 4: JT is still there?

651
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Speaker 6: I am still here. Yes, Sorry, I guess I drove

652
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through a through a black spot. So I guess you

653
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know to your point, man, there are no wrong answers

654
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,160
here yet none you know what I mean, And so

655
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there are no wrong answers. And it's one of those

656
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,759
things that it's you know, again, it probably should be

657
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:39,759
a poll that you could you could put in more

658
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people maybe leave it open ended. I think recent bias

659
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might be something really really true, right, I mean, you

660
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,640
know people were asking about you know, like hey, you know,

661
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is this person better than that person? Better than that person?

662
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Speaker 2: And so to me, it's one of those things that.

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Speaker 6: There's no wrong, there's right or wrong answers here, right,

664
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I mean it may be one answer may be statistically

665
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more proven than.

666
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Speaker 2: The other, you know what I mean.

667
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Speaker 3: And so yeah, So like I took productivity out of it,

668
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:19,920
it wasn't about production because from a professional standpoint, you

669
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can really make an argument that Joe Sich is the

670
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the it had the most professional success as a basketball

671
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:32,440
player because he was a two time EuroLeague MVP. He's

672
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,519
a Hall of fameer now six time feet but your

673
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,960
European selection. He was an all star right like he

674
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:41,680
was fit. He was drafted in the NBA. Okay, he

675
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was fifth round, eighty fifth overall. He's he was one

676
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of the true seven footers that could handle and hit

677
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,759
hit perimeter shots, mid range and get to the rim

678
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:55,599
and finish right like he and he died way too

679
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,519
soon at forty six years of age, right, just crazy

680
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that we lost him too soon. So like h like

681
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I said, I go back to like the talent of

682
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the natural inate ability. You can't teach six to eleven,

683
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,759
you can't teach seven to six. You can't teach a

684
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:13,920
guy to be an All American in three sports. And

685
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,079
Jim er was wasn't like you can make an argument

686
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:19,759
Jim is the best scorer, like in that skill set

687
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:23,119
best score. I if I was to leave one person

688
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,359
out in the top four, I probably, I probably. And

689
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,079
this is controversial, and Jimmer's getting you know, Jim or

690
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:31,920
and his crew and and the jimmer Mania people are

691
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,640
gonna get mad at me. I would actually put I

692
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would actually put Sean In over Jimmer.

693
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: Did I put cho over Jimmer.

694
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,559
Speaker 3: As the most talented one of the top five four

695
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,799
most talented players.

696
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,599
Speaker 4: And that's controversial. I don't want to say that, right,

697
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:46,920
I don't.

698
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,839
Speaker 3: It's there's not a wrong answer here as we talked about,

699
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:54,039
but from a talent standpoint, like that's what I would.

700
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:54,279
Speaker 4: Put it at.

701
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,319
Speaker 2: Well, so I gotta say this, guys. You know, Jimmer

702
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,240
was very very talented. He was extremely talented, you.

703
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Speaker 6: Know, And and and maybe it's because I'm so close

704
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,480
to the situation, but like Jimmer wasn't as good as

705
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,839
he became. Like he worked at it, which to me

706
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:18,319
is the thing that he deserves the most credit to,

707
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,799
you know what I mean, Like he worked and worked

708
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,440
and worked and worked and worked and developed. Now you

709
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,720
can say the same thing about all of these people

710
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:31,759
with talent, right, but like you really developed and.

711
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,599
Speaker 7: Improved and improved and worked.

712
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Speaker 6: And so you know, like when we hear about Denny

713
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,279
Inge and you know, like then going to the Celtics,

714
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:41,200
I mean, and if you really want to think about

715
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,960
a band like Denny is arguably one of the like five,

716
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:47,599
you know, top five top ten white boys ever to

717
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:50,480
play in the NBA. And so you know what I mean,

718
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:53,480
like he is that good, you know, between the championships

719
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,759
and his you know, he's.

720
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:58,279
Speaker 2: The things that he brought to the table to you know,

721
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:02,440
to the Celtics. And so it's to your point, it's

722
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:03,559
difficult to come up with.

723
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 6: One single, you know, single super bullet of four people

724
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,199
will say this to you, Ben, my personal my personal

725
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:16,079
Mount Rushmore at by U, which perhaps is something that

726
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,559
you know can be a little bit more explored. But

727
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:23,519
my my Mount Rushmore for by U basketball is Dresser

728
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:28,079
Marchocich first and foremost because he is the only former.

729
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 7: By U basketball player that is in the.

730
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,199
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. That's number one.

731
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:37,679
Speaker 6: Number two it's Denny Inge, right and uh and I

732
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,599
think that's self explanatory. Number three is Jimmer and number

733
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:49,800
four in my personal opinion, the my personal opinion is

734
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,159
Byle Collinsworth, and I go with Bile Pollinsworth because he

735
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:58,360
truly was well, he truly is the all time record

736
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,840
in NCAA triple doubles on.

737
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:02,159
Speaker 7: You know, I think a lot.

738
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,079
Speaker 6: Of credit can be given to Tyler Haws for being

739
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:09,119
the all time leader in scoring at BUYU. But you know,

740
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,079
like or in terms of in terms of just overall success,

741
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:19,320
I'll probably say krasimir As one, Danny two, Jim Ort three,

742
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,159
and Kyle four.

743
00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 7: Back to me by Malin Rushmore of BYU basketball, Yeah.

744
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: You know, and I'm fine with that.

745
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: Like, I think many people are confusing the argument as

746
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,400
like the best player versus the most talented player. That's

747
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,719
where I think this is all subjective, because it's all

748
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,679
about how how you define talent and how I've always

749
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,800
been brought up with, like the term talent is like

750
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:47,480
these are like natural innate qualities that you have, and

751
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:50,199
it's all about the ceiling, you know, the great and

752
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,400
tenacity and hard work and repetition.

753
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,519
Speaker 4: That's a part of like a skill.

754
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: Set that you develop, but it's not necessarily these god

755
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,119
given talents that you have. And so some people will say, well,

756
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:05,199
you're just talking about height here, Ben, I'm like, no, Like,

757
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,000
freaking Sean Bradley was a freaking giraft that could gallop. Dude,

758
00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:13,800
he and he could elevate off one foot. He and

759
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,480
I can go into it. My guy aps text and

760
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,840
be telling me I'm an idiot on this take. I'm like,

761
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,679
look like, I don't know how you can argue with

762
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:25,280
with it. And he's the second overall pick in the

763
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,920
NBA draft. Like, you don't go second overall unless you

764
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:33,400
have tremendous talent and upside. And they were willing to

765
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,440
take a risk on Sean Bradley's talent, even though he

766
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,159
was a little bit trim and thin and spelt. But

767
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,880
that dude could run, he could jump, he could shoot

768
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,679
in an era that yeah liked and prioritize big men

769
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,880
over maybe point guards and maybe skill position guys front

770
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,760
court guys, but or sorry, backcourt guys. But I just

771
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,519
think that Bradley's kind of underrated as it pertains to

772
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:03,880
like talent conversations and like I'll go back to that

773
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,960
that ceiling comment and innate talent and these measurables and tangibles.

774
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:11,480
He's one of five players in NBA basketball history with

775
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:15,559
twenty points, twenty rebounds, and ten blocks a triple double

776
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:18,159
in a playoff game. That tells you about the ceiling

777
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,760
that Sean Brother had. He had injuries in the NBA,

778
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,519
he was not as consistent as you would like him

779
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:27,559
to be, but his ceiling was was crazy.

780
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, if you want to talk about that,

781
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,679
then you know Sean had a better professional career than

782
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,760
Jimmer did. And so if you're just looking from that perspective,

783
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:40,320
you know John, you know Sean would would be ranked

784
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,599
higher than Jimmer. I just think that, you know, when

785
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:46,239
it's again right then when you start getting a little

786
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,480
bit more into.

787
00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 7: The news and you know the nuances and.

788
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,519
Speaker 6: The details, are we talking about overall? Also after BYU career?

789
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,159
Are we talking about just that BUYU?

790
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:03,519
Speaker 3: Not even production. I don't even care about like necessary production.

791
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:07,639
It's about you know, the talent that like I bet

792
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:10,679
you if you you put Danny Ainge on a live

793
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,079
detector test and talked about what is what was Jimmer

794
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:13,840
Foret's talent?

795
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: Right?

796
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,559
Speaker 3: What was his talent like compared to his contemporaries. A

797
00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:20,039
lot of people are gonna say he just didn't have

798
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:21,360
the talent to play in the NBA.

799
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,159
Speaker 4: He didn't have big.

800
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:25,159
Speaker 3: Enough hands, he wasn't fast enough, he didn't have a handle.

801
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,000
He was a great score, great shooter, he couldn't play defense.

802
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,400
He had no lateral quickness and staying in front of anything.

803
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: That's that's another reason why he couldn't.

804
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 4: I know, but that's what some people would say.

805
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 3: I wonder what Danny would say about that, right, And

806
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,920
that's what I'm getting at, because Danny didn't go after him,

807
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,639
didn't draft him, didn't you know, you know, those that

808
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:46,039
were supposedly advocates for him, you know, I don't know

809
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:48,199
if they really advocated for him. He never got a

810
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,079
chance in the NBA. And everyone chalks it up to,

811
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,239
you know, the the Sacramento Kings ownership firing their head

812
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,920
coach west Fall and allowing for the interim head coach

813
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,599
to take over.

814
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, to me, you're spot on, and so I.

815
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 6: Think, you know, it's one of those great conversations.

816
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,039
Speaker 7: I'm actually pulling.

817
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,079
Speaker 2: Out to the barbershop right now.

818
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 6: If if if my new barber was like my former barber,

819
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:16,079
my former barber new basketball he was.

820
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:18,159
Speaker 7: He was a great guy. Fortunately he went to jail

821
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,760
and so I had to find.

822
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: A new barber.

823
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,639
Speaker 7: And uh, but true storry too.

824
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 6: I will text you and run afterwards, and uh, you know,

825
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,840
but you know, it's uh, it's one of those things

826
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,559
that it would be a fantastic chat to have at

827
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:33,280
a barber shop.

828
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 2: But you know it's uh, it's set.

829
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 6: To the table really well for tomorrow's spanking of Yukon.

830
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,599
Speaker 3: Hey, real quick, I want to know I have no

831
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,800
disrespect for Cho six. I wanted to put Cho sicks

832
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,400
in uh, and I know it's disrespectful to not put

833
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,039
Jimmer in there.

834
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:51,519
Speaker 4: I get it.

835
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:54,079
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be overly controversial with it. It's

836
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:56,519
my honest to goodness take and I will take the

837
00:39:56,599 --> 00:39:59,760
shame that comes with it. I think Sean Bradley is

838
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,840
in is underrated as it pertains to the perspective that

839
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,280
be what your fans have with Sean.

840
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,119
Speaker 4: That's my opinion.

841
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 8: I'll give you the inside details because I'm the producer.

842
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,679
Speaker 9: I get to listening.

843
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,079
Speaker 8: I heard you battle for fifteen minutes with this question

844
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,880
before you put it out, because you were going back

845
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,000
and forth about names, like ah, what should I do?

846
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:20,360
And I'm like, do what you want. But I was like,

847
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,440
you know, whichever way you go, someone's going to have

848
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,800
an opinion. So you battle with about this for fifteen minutes.

849
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 4: Trust me, man, I was I heard you.

850
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 9: I was here to do. I'm like, I'm grateful I

851
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,400
don't have to hits in on it now.

852
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,559
Speaker 3: Sometimes you know me my add eighty HD. I'm like, well,

853
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:33,719
that's a good question, you know.

854
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,639
Speaker 4: I'll put it out there like, and you don't really

855
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:35,920
like this.

856
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,159
Speaker 9: I should have given more insight.

857
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:40,199
Speaker 3: You don't really always think through all the controversy that's

858
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:42,079
gonna stem from it, that your friend is going to

859
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:44,920
attack and say you don't know ball and you're an idiot,

860
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:45,480
you know.

861
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 4: And I'm like, tell you, I'm.

862
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: Just having to try and have fun with this, and

863
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,880
you got to attack my basketball like you. AP's getting

864
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,639
after me too, saying no, you don't know ball, you

865
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:56,119
don't know ball.

866
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:58,079
Speaker 4: I'm like, look, I think it's an interesting conversation.

867
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,519
Speaker 3: I really do I think, and obviously it strikes the

868
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:02,639
chord with a lot of people, So I think it's

869
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:03,239
a good combo.

870
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 4: Brother, But love and appreciate you. You're my guy. Get

871
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,159
a good haircut.

872
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:07,639
Speaker 2: Uh.

873
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:09,519
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what this bo a basketball

874
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:12,159
team can do tomorrow night versus the utes.

875
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: Amen, amen, and uh yeah, he's gonna be a great game.

876
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 6: I look forward to seeing you guys there and I

877
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,760
appreciate you guys having me on the show.

878
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,599
Speaker 4: Guys, I always appreciate JT.

879
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,639
Speaker 3: Jonathan Tabinari, the Brazilian bomber, one of the best to

880
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,719
do it in a b YU uniform. Ap did clairefy says,

881
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,000
I I never said you don't know, Paul, It's okay. Uh,

882
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:36,719
you're right. I put some words in there. But he says, uh,

883
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,599
make Sean six one. What's his talent?

884
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 9: Guys, Come on, we can't know.

885
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 6: Don't do that.

886
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,119
Speaker 9: See this is where I get mad. Now, I gotta stop.

887
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: I haven't given my saying that just because Sean Sean

888
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:55,719
Bradley is not I brought this up earlier today, is

889
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,880
not Zach Edy.

890
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:58,679
Speaker 4: Sean Bradley was not Zach Edy.

891
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,599
Speaker 9: Not Zach Edy.

892
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: You know what I mean like not a Yao Ming.

893
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:05,039
Those are those are kind of different players. Sean was

894
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:09,039
unique in his athleticism. He's way more athletic than Yao

895
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:13,440
Ming and Zach Edy. Sean Bradley could run bro he

896
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:17,280
could gallop. Look at that top end speed. He's seven

897
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,639
foot six and he runs like a freaking gazelle like

898
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:25,119
and he elevates off one leg. Yao Ming and Zach

899
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,519
Edy could not run like that, nor elevate in transition

900
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:32,320
and yack it down, yam it down like that in transition.

901
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:35,199
Speaker 4: I'm sorry they can't do that. He was unique.

902
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: He there was a reason why, like everyone thought he

903
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,800
was a unicorn and took a risk on him because

904
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,920
of the talent. They saw the upside, they saw the ceiling,

905
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,840
they saw the the the neural muscular output, they saw

906
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,039
his coordination. That dude had a mid range. Sean Bradley

907
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:53,519
had a nice midrange. He had a turnaround. He wasn't

908
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:55,920
a Keema Lajahan, but he could do that little you

909
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,280
know you little juke and jive's fade away to the

910
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:02,880
you know what I mean, from to the to the baseline,

911
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,599
that fadeaway shot. He had a He had a really

912
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:08,960
well rounded game for a seven foot six two and

913
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,280
ten pound center like.

914
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: He really was.

915
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: Now, did he get banged around a little bit? Did

916
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,480
he have a dislocation in his kneecap his rookie year?

917
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:19,960
Did he have some back issues? It did with Dallas

918
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,960
one hundred percent? Did the mission hurt him? One hundred percent?

919
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:25,159
He would have been the first overall pick in the

920
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,960
ninety one draft. That tells you all you need to know.

921
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,639
All the gms in the NBA at that time said

922
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:37,559
he was the most talented upside player to draft, and

923
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:39,880
in the ninety three draft he was. He was the

924
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,480
number two overall pick after coming off of mission, and

925
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:45,320
who knows how the mission impacted him?

926
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: Really?

927
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:53,639
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I mean, it's yeah, yeah he didn't.

928
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 3: He's saying, yeah, y'ao Yao Ming was a better basketball

929
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,599
player than Sean.

930
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 4: I didn't say that. I there, They're two different there's

931
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,519
two different styles of players.

932
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,159
Speaker 3: Sean Bradley in many ways kind of looked and felt

933
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:10,719
in college that first year of college and coming out

934
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,079
of high school. When you watch his film, you watch

935
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:18,719
his highlights, he wasn't a primary ballhander like what like.

936
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,519
Speaker 4: Weben Yama, right, he wasn't that.

937
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: But like he's thirty forty years before his time, before

938
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,039
seven footers actually got to handle the ball. Look at

939
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:32,679
Sean Bradley in transition dribbling the basketball. There wasn't a

940
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,440
seven footer at that time that could do that. Maybe

941
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:38,400
I don't know, maybe Wilf the Stilt could and I

942
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,000
just don't have enough film there. But anyway, I think

943
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,880
you guys disrespect Sean.

944
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 4: I'll be honest BYU fans.

945
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: You guys do not give enough love and respect for

946
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,440
the athleticism, the freakish athleticism, the well rounded game that

947
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,039
he had. He could shoot the j too, he could

948
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:59,400
hit a three like if he was given the opportunity.

949
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,199
Speaker 4: But people pigeonhole.

950
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Speaker 3: Guys in the nineties and the eighties and the early

951
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:06,519
two thousands too, being a back to the basket player.

952
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,639
But Sean could do a lot of that. He could

953
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:13,119
do not at all. But I mean he could do

954
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:15,320
a lot of great work on the court. Just watch

955
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,679
the tape. Okay, just watch the tape. I'm saying you

956
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,400
guys have a tremendous amount of disrespect for the talent

957
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,320
that was Sean Bradley. You're only one and done so

958
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,719
you're saying that all these other guys are more talented

959
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,440
than Sean when he's literally you're only one and done.

960
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,920
Do you realize how absurd that is? He's the one

961
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,920
of five players in NBA history that has twenty plus points,

962
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,719
twenty plus rebounds, and ten plus blocks in a game.

963
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,400
You're telling me that guy doesn't deserve to be in

964
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,000
the conversation as one of the most talented players in

965
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,519
BYU basketball history, a top four talent in BOA basketball.

966
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,119
Speaker 4: That seems insaying to me, that's all I'm saying.

967
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,119
Speaker 3: You guys can call me an imbecile, I'm an idiot,

968
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,119
I don't know ball.

969
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 4: I think you guys are wrong, and I think.

970
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:05,119
Speaker 3: You guys are doing a severe injustice to the talent

971
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that was Sean Bradley.

972
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:08,119
Speaker 4: I think you guys need a check tape. He was

973
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:09,639
a freak. He was a unicorn.

974
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,679
Speaker 8: So at that being that the freaked, the unicorn that

975
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,880
leaves us to the modern day right now, the freak

976
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,800
that we will see tomorrow, Does that mean AJ should

977
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,480
be the number one overall pick because of upside and freakishability?

978
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:24,039
Speaker 3: And with yeah, no, no, no, no, no, that's exactly why

979
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:28,480
if he's aj debonsa. If he is the first overall

980
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:32,159
draft pick, it will not be due to productivity in

981
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,239
being an elite, an elite score and all these things

982
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,559
that everyone loves Jimmer for. Okay, Like that's what the

983
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:41,719
people are angry with me because they're like, well, you're

984
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,800
not giving Jimmer enough credit for being an elite talent. Like,

985
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,679
if Jimmer was an elite talent, he could have been

986
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,760
a one and done, a two and done, but he wasn't.

987
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: Jimmer wouldn't different day.

988
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 8: But if he played in this day and age, absolutely

989
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,840
one season like that, I think he's done.

990
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 9: Absolutely no.

991
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 4: No, but like he had to he became Jimmer.

992
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 9: He did absolutely.

993
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,119
Speaker 4: By his senior year, he became Jimmer.

994
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: But he was not Gimo Dash and his freshman and

995
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,320
sophomore year he was a good player, a good college

996
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,079
basketball player.

997
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 4: There's no doubt.

998
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: But there's no way that Jimmer would have been one

999
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,679
and done or two and done.

1000
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 9: He would he'd have been three earliest most likely.

1001
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he wouldn't have gone first overall tenth pick

1002
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,400
in the NBA draft, and even then, he never really

1003
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,079
got an opportunity NBA. In the NBA after Sacramentos. True,

1004
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:33,960
never because why why why why didn't it Never was

1005
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,840
gonna say well because of X, Y and Z, either're

1006
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,639
gonna contrive things, and they just say, well, you never

1007
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:38,559
fit in the locker rooms.

1008
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:41,639
Speaker 4: He's Mormon. There's bigotry. You know. They didn't put him

1009
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:46,639
in the right role. And defensively, and I'm not trying

1010
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:48,920
to hate on like.

1011
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 9: I think defensively, anybody can play defense in the NBA.

1012
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like obviously no one was willing to give

1013
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:01,119
him a chance, whereas all these other guys chose could

1014
00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:02,639
have played in the NBA for a long time.

1015
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 4: He chose to go overseas, right back to his home.

1016
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 6: Uh.

1017
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: Obviously Sean had a long story career in the NBA,

1018
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,679
riddled with injuries.

1019
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: But still you saw the ceiling. Danny Ainge, obviously a J.

1020
00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:18,119
Speaker 3: Deabons is obviously gonna be most likely a franchise player,

1021
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:23,639
a Tracy.

1022
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 4: You know, that's what he's supposed to be. That's his ceiling.

1023
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,639
Speaker 3: So when we're talking talent, my terminology is based off

1024
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:34,920
of ceiling potential. Okay, not due to productivity and individual

1025
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,480
skill sets that have been developed over a lifetime. That's

1026
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:41,800
not how I do that's not how I determine uh

1027
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:50,079
in a Merriam Webster dictionary, that's not. And even two

1028
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:51,840
four seven if you want to take it off of

1029
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,199
what they do. A five star football player is based

1030
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:58,880
off of potential NFL draft status.

1031
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:02,599
Speaker 8: Because of that, the top three pick, because the live

1032
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:05,679
star when you look at it, four and five stars

1033
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:08,400
a lottery it talent. Even Yegor four star probably could

1034
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,079
have been elevated to a five star. But that just

1035
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:12,719
shows he's been the disparity because Yegor on what top

1036
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,119
ten you can make.

1037
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,079
Speaker 4: Ronnie, Yeah, you.

1038
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,079
Speaker 3: Could make an argument that Yegor or Deman there's more

1039
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:20,000
talented than Jimmer for that.

1040
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolute, one hundred percent.

1041
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,159
Speaker 8: You can make that absolute with the versatility of triple

1042
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:24,880
double and the shooting.

1043
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 9: Now, absolutely you can make that argument. I hear that

1044
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:27,480
one hundred percent.

1045
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:30,519
Speaker 8: You definitely can make that argument that Yegor was more talented,

1046
00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:32,519
you know, than Jimmer for that. And no, obviously people

1047
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:34,480
are gonna argue me, say, ron you're wrong. A body

1048
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,000
of work and nobody I love Jimmer for that. That

1049
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:38,559
was how I got introduced to by U and b

1050
00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:41,119
AU Basketball was watching him. So don't people think I'm

1051
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:44,679
being disrespectful. But when you watch Yegor and just the

1052
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:47,400
to me, just the upside that because to me, Ben

1053
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,239
this ten percent, that ten percent of impact Yegor is

1054
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,519
this is really gonna sound disrespectful, light years above jim

1055
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:57,440
Or because of the IQ ability when you add the

1056
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,639
pass to the fact that when you add that skill set.

1057
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:01,679
But I know there are gonna be some people listening

1058
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,280
right now, they're gonna roast me. But you can make

1059
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,840
that argument, Yes, you're correct that Jegor is more talented

1060
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,119
than Jimmer for that absolutely.

1061
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 4: Well you can. I mean I'm saying you can try

1062
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,079
to make that argument.

1063
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:11,639
Speaker 9: You can't try to know it's on the table.

1064
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,079
Speaker 8: Well right now in the NBA, I keep getting people

1065
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,119
keep coming in my DMS at me saying why you

1066
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:21,159
keep saying this is wrong? Because all I heard from

1067
00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:23,920
BYU fans I'm knock on the table was he shoots terribly.

1068
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,320
All I heard from not NBA draft and list from

1069
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,639
other people from local things, looking, oh, he shoots twenty

1070
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:31,480
three percent from the three And it's like, do you

1071
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:33,840
not understand that the mechanics are there that he can

1072
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,159
develop a shot. John Morant was a terrible college street

1073
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:38,039
point shooter John Morn did not shoot a three point

1074
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:39,920
basket that well in college. What happened when he got

1075
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,639
the league way better because of that, because the upside,

1076
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,360
you can shoot better in the upside when you have

1077
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,920
the mechanics. And now now you see what Yegor is doing,

1078
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,840
Like then we're talking about a guy that has a

1079
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,199
potential to be a future All Star and a franchise

1080
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:53,400
player for the Nets. Like they like what he's doing now,

1081
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,000
like him being back on the starting lineup, and if

1082
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,840
they ever do move him to the bench, and there

1083
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,440
they were doing, it's because of matchups, Like Yegor is

1084
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,239
gonna play a long time in the NBA, had been

1085
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,119
a long time.

1086
00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 6: Uh.

1087
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:09,519
Speaker 3: Sean Bradley, by the way, you know his his rookie season,

1088
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:13,280
Uh you know, I mean average, what was it? He

1089
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,320
started forty nine games? Oh sorry, he played in forty

1090
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,199
nine games, started forty five like he every single season,

1091
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,880
his season was cut short. I think ninety six ninety

1092
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,519
seven was the only only year in which he played

1093
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:27,719
like an entire full season. Maybe it was uh maybe

1094
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,599
later on with the Dallas Mavericks too, but you know,

1095
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:35,760
averaging thirteen points per game, almost a double double, eight

1096
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,280
point four rebounds, almost forty five percent from the field.

1097
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,320
I just say underrated, underrated, Let's go to break, don't

1098
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,480
go anywhere, guys. More to get you on a beautiful

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Friday edition of Cougar Sports. Here one of three nine

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ninety point three ESPN The