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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody in Gola, a

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podcast of one hundred and forty two years in the making,

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the complete story of America's Bloody is prison. I'm Jim Chapman,

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and I have a special presentation for you today. Look,

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Labor Day is Monday, so rather than bring you a

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brand new episode this week, there's something I'm working on

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that has taken me a little longer to research than

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I anticipated, but I wanted to bring you something this week.

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So here's what I'm gonna do. Many of you have

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emailed me in the past and you've mentioned The Farm,

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which is the Academy Award winning documentary based off of

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Life Inside in Gola, and I was really surprised how

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many people have not seen or heard that documentary. I'm

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going to bring you The Farm and you're going to

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be able to listen to it right here on Bloody

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and Gola. Pot. I hope everyone has a phenomenal Labor

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Day weekend.

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Speaker 2: Be safe.

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Speaker 1: It's wild out there, and I will be talking to

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all of you next week. So here it is.

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Speaker 3: The form down in Louisiana lies America's largest maximum security prison,

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surrounded on three sides by the Mississippi River and thirty

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miles from the nearest town. Angola is a world and

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to itself. There are over five thousand inmates here, serving

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some of the longest sentences of any prison in America.

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Nearly eighty five percent of those who enter the gates

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will die here. This is the story of six men

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trying to overcome the odds.

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Speaker 4: Timea on.

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Speaker 5: If only go On.

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Speaker 6: Lost.

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Speaker 3: George Crawford was found guilty of first degree murder and

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received a life sentence without the possibility of parole.

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Speaker 2: He is twenty two years old.

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Speaker 3: Louisiana is known to have the harshest sentencing in the country.

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Speaker 2: And while the common perception is.

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Speaker 3: That prisoners don't serve their full terms, for those heading

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to Angola prison life means life and ten dollars.

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Speaker 2: Shoot sigh that hood.

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Speaker 7: Every Monday, new uh in mats come in and in

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the process.

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Speaker 2: We're all guaranteed a job.

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Speaker 8: We have a good job.

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Speaker 9: Security number place thirty seven fifty nine or the suiceige

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ten di had a buck zero one twenty two sixty nine.

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Speaker 10: Alright number thirty four twenty seven thirty one, shueiarge eight

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and a half.

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Speaker 11: They a buck one twenty eight seventy seven.

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Speaker 12: Alright, no to judge, he said, I I have a

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natural life.

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Speaker 11: No parole, uh anything like that.

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Speaker 12: Alright, number that is twenty three. Basically, e sorr.

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Speaker 13: You never coming on there the buck you you you

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can never come on.

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Speaker 9: That's on a forty both shue size eye.

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Speaker 13: Cause I ain't no perfect child. I done did thirty

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as I was coming up. I have sold drug, I

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have stole things. I have lied, I cheated, but I

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have never killed anyone. I ain't furfe that what I

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wanna get across. I ain't furthe everything I did that

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I ain't get called for, get.

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Speaker 11: Caught up with.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety seven, almost nine hundred young men was

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sent to Angold. More than half of them have life sentences.

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Seventy seven percent were African American.

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Speaker 12: I'm from New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in a project.

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Speaker 13: I dropped out of school I in eighth grade.

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Speaker 2: I wanted things. I saw the.

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Speaker 14: People w.

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Speaker 13: Cars, golds, you know, women, houses, you know I want.

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I wanted them type of things, material things. I hold

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a lot of buying, going far as rape killings.

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Speaker 11: You know how they treat you.

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Speaker 13: You gonna do what they take to survive. Yeah, I'm scared.

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I'm scared. I'm scared that I ain't gonna never get

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a chance to see my luck ones again.

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Speaker 10: Do you think you can take care of self up

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here and the problems and why take 'em standards?

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Speaker 15: That's it?

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Speaker 2: You get any relatives over here?

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Speaker 16: That's uh what relationship cutting cut gonna go?

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Speaker 12: Maximum?

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Speaker 2: Be even three?

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Speaker 12: Really camp?

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Speaker 11: D okay?

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Speaker 12: I say two man sail walk, two man sellwack. You

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have a salemate, grow out the work bay, light hours

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and seeking to sale at night recreation on the weekend.

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Speaker 17: All calls are fifteen minute collect calls. M All calls

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can be monitored or recorded at any time, except for

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your legal phone calls, which cannot. At the beginning of

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each phone call, there's gonna be a tape recorded message

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stating at the callers coming from a male penal institution.

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Speaker 16: So we've cut it on the way yet I don't

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know why I have all Nope, forty three letters with terror.

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Speaker 12: If you leave your pairs, can I can consent?

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Speaker 18: Ego you consider the v I go take on cinemon.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I remember that first day coming in to get

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was October the fourth, nineteen Uh.

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Speaker 8: Uh fifty nine on the on the on the Wednesday. Oh,

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it must have been about twenty four years old, the.

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Speaker 11: Twenty four.

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Speaker 8: My name is Eugene China here junior, and uh, I've

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been here in Louisa State Penitentia since nineteen fifty nine,

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going on my third eighth year. This something like I've

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been raised here. I'm sorry to said, but it is

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I've been raised here.

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Speaker 7: Oh look, yeah, this is what you call as long

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as I've inmate, what's the thing that we allowed to have.

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Speaker 8: That the system condoms?

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Speaker 14: Uh?

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Speaker 6: These is my marble books.

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Speaker 8: Just keep me from the existence of the tension that

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exists in here, see that re tension around that. Three

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things that goalie would do for a man. Number one,

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he would bring you to the cross road of a

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ton in pipe. Number two, kid would hearten you that

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you would come to be a hard criminal and that's

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all you will desire to do and you will become

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better on the inner part of your life. Number three

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he'll be kidding you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Serving time is if like a puzzle, a two thousand

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piece farther that is, throw it to you and it's

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scouted as the Buchu way and now put it back together.

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That's the way your life is. When you sell us

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to a penal institution, your life is scattered. You the

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one got to put it back together.

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Speaker 3: Once a slave's plantation and God was turned into a

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prison at the end of the Civil War. During its

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one hundred year history, and Gola has been known as

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the most dangerous and bloody prison in America. And also

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times have changed, the place still strikes fear in the

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hearts of people throughout the South.

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Speaker 5: So be careful when you get involved in things like that.

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Speaker 12: See, this is a prison, and everything.

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Speaker 5: Here is valuable to everybody that's here.

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Speaker 12: All right, there's drugs. There's drugs everywhere.

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Speaker 20: You know what one giant calls you here five facts

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of cigarettes, So it would be stressed.

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Speaker 3: There was a time in the not so distant past

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when orientation at Angola consisted of a beating and the

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advice to purchase a weapon.

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Speaker 12: Are you thinking about your backside?

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Speaker 3: Nowadays, the prison offers a full day orientation led by

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some of the old timers.

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Speaker 7: You got butteries and all the penitential change people.

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Speaker 14: How many you all are serving life sendsing in there.

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I mean, if you all a servant over twenty years Okay,

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so the majority of you, all the long terms, the

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one thing I want to explain, I'm explain something a

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little bit about myself and then you'll understand where I'm

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coming from. In January of nineteen seventy two, while under

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the influence of LSD, I came through Shreveport, pulled off

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a robbery, led to shootout with police, to police, was shot.

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I was shot and my fall partner was shot, but

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nobody died. Nine months later, I will sendence to seventy

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five years in prison. I've been here since. It's over

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twenty five years. One of the things you find out

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why you're in penitentiary is that everybody who's close to

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you over a period of time, they're always gonna fade away.

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First it's gonna be your associates and friends, all your homies.

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They gonna cut you loose. The old lady, she's gonna

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cut you loose. Your children, aren't a lot of you

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All who might have children now as they grow up,

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they gonna forget you. You that daddy usually the person

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that's gonna stick with you. It's gonna be your mother,

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your father, may be a close brother or sister.

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Speaker 11: And if you stay down on a long period of time.

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Those people who do stick by you are gonna get older.

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Speaker 14: They're older, and sometime they're gonna die off, So you're

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gonna be here alone. But one of the things I

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wanna show you is that when you start going through

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those pains and finding out that the people you thought

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were close, you begin to cut you loose. Don't get

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hooked up into the negative activities. It can get you

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stuck here forever, despite the fact that you're doing life.

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Since there's always hope. All right, I'm gonna talk.

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Speaker 11: To y'all later.

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Speaker 14: When I came, you know, like I say, ain't Goola

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was classified as the blood Is prison in the Nation Mark,

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And I know, my focus was on surviving.

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Speaker 11: I was gonna do whatever it was necessarily survive, you know.

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Speaker 14: And I ended up going to the cell block when

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I got busted with two nines.

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Speaker 11: While I was in the cell block, you know, that's

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when I really woke up to myself.

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Speaker 14: I said, Man, all I'm doing is really digging a

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whole deeper and deeper for myself. I didn't have any

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family down here, I didn't have any friends down there,

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so what I had to do was focus on how

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I can get out that cell block and get involved

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in some positive things where I can redevelop my life

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and show somebody that I really deserved to be out.

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Speaker 21: Ye, it was a put M nine sixty, I.

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Speaker 11: Said fifteen twelve.

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Speaker 14: You know, the person who was arrested twenty two years

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ago went totally different person. Since I've been here, I've

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been through classes, programs, projects, within the heads of numbers

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of organization. I've done everything in in prison that I

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should've done as a community leader and society.

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Speaker 11: He was with you, what was the one what was

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our table doing?

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Speaker 14: I went up for parole originally in July nineteen ninety four,

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and despite my good conduct record, I was denied a hearing.

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Speaker 11: I'm currently working on trying to get a rehearing. This

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is my parole board file.

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Speaker 14: Basically, it comprises a good percentage of the things that

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I've been involved with over the years, and you know,

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some of the things I've left off because it would

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be too thick. This is the actual statement of support

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of my parole hearing. This a two page statement, has

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them to be forgiven for the crime that I committed,

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taking responsibility for the crime that I committed, that happened

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twenty five years ago. This is a hard time because

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of the conservativism all the way across the board. But

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you know, sometime, even in the midst of all of that,

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sometimes God.

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Speaker 11: Touches a person's heart and miracles happened.

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Speaker 14: So I've got faith, you know, I've got faith. Once

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a parole board makes this decision, that's that's the decision.

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It's fine, and I will walk out.

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Speaker 22: Didn't have this park the other day, HOBt what happens

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to ones where the fluid just stays there and doesn't

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circulate that you're gonna get in Aumonia And if you

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get in, Youumania.

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Speaker 12: Wanna beat you out.

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Speaker 23: I know I'm gonna have to get out for something

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Speaker 18: You need our help, let me know.

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Speaker 24: Okay, that's a good nurse. She's a bad nurse. She's

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a good nurse's she's tough too, So well, this is tough.

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This is not as terrible a place as you would

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think it is.

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Speaker 23: I'm not saying that your life isn't torn awake. Say like,

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you come here and you're never gonna get out, but

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then you can still have a life inside. She can

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help other inmates. You can do different things. You don't

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have to just say, well, I'm dead because you're here.

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There's other things you can do. You can learn the trade,

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you can learn.

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Speaker 25: To be a lawyer.

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Speaker 23: You could and help other pew that's that's not always self.

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Speaker 12: You have to look to.

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Speaker 23: My name's glowing Tario and I'm in the Angola hospital

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cause of cancer in the lunger. My wife and I

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had a little trouble and uh I killed her. I

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was working overseas and I came back home and she

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was pregnant for one of my friends. And uh, then

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she hated the baby and uh, she'd she'd mistreated and everything.

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And I told her to I put the baby in

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my name and everything. And I told her, said, if

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you mistreat that baby, i'm'a hurt you, you know. And

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uh the baby was three years old and she was

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still mistreated, and I told her if she done it,

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done it one more time, I'd kill her.

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Speaker 12: And I did.

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Speaker 2: What.

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Speaker 23: Uh what happened years agos happened and you can't undo it.

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Excuse me, you can't undo it.

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Speaker 11: You can't fix it up.

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Speaker 2: It's done. All you can say is.

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Speaker 23: You don't know whether you done the right thing or not.

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Speaker 18: What uh the tart.

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Speaker 26: Lessons for going.

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Speaker 14: Very four.

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Speaker 22: My understanding is that he's been told that, in all

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likelihood he will not live to see Christmas.

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Speaker 23: Oh do you think, first your life's not finished just

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because you're an Angle.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 12: A lot of people think it some way, but it's not.

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Speaker 3: Inmates assigned to field duty, the lowest class of Angelist jobs,

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are awake at five am and sent to work on

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the farm. The pay is four cents an hour. The

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best jobs at Angola pay twenty cents an hour.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 16: Oh, the first time you ever worked with fil first

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time working my life?

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Speaker 21: Excuse it's like.

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Speaker 5: A big plantation in days youmby.

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Speaker 12: We hate to call it that.

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Speaker 7: In a way, that kind of is because we have

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the you know the it then make it prove this

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was a plantation and this land had been farmed and

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it was cleared in the early eighteen hundred. The region's

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name Angola is because the slaves that worked these fields

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came from Angola and Africa, and it picks up its

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name from there.

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Speaker 3: Forden came runs Angle to prison, with responsibilities ranging from

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the administration of executions to overseeing the farm's multi million

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dollar enterprises.

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Speaker 7: Everybody here works in the field lines with hoes and

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ditchbank blade.

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Speaker 12: It's going to be about twelve.

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Speaker 2: To fourteen hundred a day. With hope.

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Speaker 7: There's gonna be a vast number driving attractors, operating all equipment,

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unloading and loading trucks, and traders running a warehouses.

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Speaker 12: Everybody had a job.

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Speaker 7: Everybody Angola works every day. This is really good from

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around Angola because you start out with a ditchbank blade

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in the field or hope, and you can have illusion

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to the grinder that you might at some point get

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to drive attracted what is it the big warehouse and

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locked in the sail never to come out. You come

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outside and in the sunshine.

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Speaker 12: You're out here working.

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Speaker 18: It's good for you and you feel like you're healthier.

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Speaker 7: You're going to get live longer and make them business

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so they're less violent too.

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Speaker 12: You have to be good business man too. The run this.

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Speaker 3: Player at eighteen thousand acres and Gola is the largest

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prison in America. There are six complexes called camps spread

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across the landscape to keep this massive institution running. The

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prison employs eighteen hundred workers to be prepared for any emergency.

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A town was built within the prison gates, called the Beeline.

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There are two hundred employee families raising their children here,

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and although the baseball field is only a quarter mile

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from Death Row, the residents call it the safest town

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in America.

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Speaker 27: Good afternoon is here as CALSP nine N forty seven

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film on your radio, Dob, and we broadcast daily from

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the Louisiana State Penitentia at Angola. I'm going and I'll

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be here with you all the way through. With the

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beautiful and inspirational souls of the gospel.

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Speaker 11: I like to take this opportunity to.

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Speaker 5: Be wish y'all.

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Speaker 12: Are the brothers up on dead Row? A very beautiful day.

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Speaker 27: And I tell you what, precious Lord, if he's with you,

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he'll definitely go take your hand.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 28: I had been doing coke all that day and I

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had run out and I needed some more, and I

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was still kind of weird, like desperate. I knew I

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had to get some money to could try to get

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out of town. And I seen this couple and I

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approached him, and that's where the crown happened.

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Speaker 5: I told him, man, give me his money, and he

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started fighting.

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Speaker 12: He wanna give it to me? And his wife was clean.

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Speaker 18: Think did you have a card or what would you.

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Speaker 5: I had life? How were you go out there? For

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now twelve years? He keeping herself for twenty three hours

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a day.

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Speaker 28: He can't come out and you're not supposed to come

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into contact with other people unless you handcuffed m I

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mean it was kind of weird.

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Speaker 5: Cause after awhile you developed.

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Speaker 28: Into that, and then when you get around people, it's

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kind of strange, kind of like an animal.

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Speaker 5: I guess.

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Speaker 28: I like to listen to music. I like to listen

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to that. Other teams and right or being got TV

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in from myself. I don't like TV too much, and

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look out the window. I got a big window across

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from myself. I could see the hills back there. I

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seen some years back there. One day the first time

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I seen some live DearS wasn't.

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Speaker 12: In the zoo.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, man's been all right, you know it?

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Speaker 5: About then I got I changed since I've been out there.

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When I was coming up, there wasn't nothing there that

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was really party like this, didn't really care. But now

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I have more concern about myself and others and.

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Speaker 12: Felt good.

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Speaker 5: It's more worse, more not worry, if that makes sense, small.

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Speaker 21: Worried, and things have more meaning.

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Speaker 5: Now he's sweeter and sad, two things. Then you realize good.

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Speaker 29: Now that you realize what it's about, you don't really

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have the opportunity to act upon it.

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Speaker 30: And so it's kind of mixed up in the medical And.

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Speaker 10: I didn't worry for some reason. I felt that some

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way I would be able to prove my innesss. I

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didn't think it was gonna take this long. My name

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is Vincent now for Simbers uh. I'm forty five years

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old born February the seventeenth, nineteen fifty two.

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Speaker 2: My uh my.

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Speaker 10: The original charge that I'm in prison for it is

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aggravated rate. I've been down on the charge for twenty years.

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I've been counseantly of fighting my case in the courts

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for the past twenty years.

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Speaker 11: I am an innocent man.

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Speaker 12: One of the victims.

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Speaker 10: They asked him, would you ever be able to identify

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this person again if you saw them?

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Speaker 12: She said no.

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Speaker 10: Sheriff asked her why cause she said all niggas look alike.

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That's in her statement and also in her statement, she

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said that they wanted someone for the for the charge.

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They wanted to punish someone for the crime. The sheriff said, well,

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we're gonna do justice, and.

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Speaker 11: I guess I'm the example.

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Speaker 3: Although he had only a sixth grade education with no

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money to pay for an attorney, Vincent Simmons, like many

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other angle and inmates.

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Speaker 2: Was forced to represent and himself.

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Speaker 3: After petitioning twelve different courts over a seventeen year period,

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Simmons was finally given the information the courts claimed they

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had lost back in nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 10: My attorney had never sought discovery and I had never

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been provided with this evidence. The jewelry have never reviewed

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this evidence. This is the exculpatory evidence of my innocence

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of the aggravated grave choice. This is my first parole

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here and in twenty years, and I hoped to accomplished

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my freedom.

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Speaker 12: Are the victims he yet business sy all to take them?

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We take them from him?

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Speaker 5: Hey, how y'all doing this morning? You say to me,

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glad y'all if it's coming, you know it wasn't easy.

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Speaker 12: Okay, just be relas.

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Speaker 2: Given minutes he took all the time, and.

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Speaker 21: Just be calm.

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Speaker 31: And that's all I want to say is in the

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past twenty years, the only company that we've had was

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to know that he cannot hurt us or our family

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or someone else. And that's the only peace of mind

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that we have found and that we have and we're

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just here to ask that you don't take that from us.

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Speaker 18: Well, let me let me say this, because you're very nervous,

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and admittedly.

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Speaker 11: I beat you.

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Speaker 2: I'm a victim pride to avathing.

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Speaker 11: I'm stay president of crime Fighters. I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 12: Okay, I'm a retired police officer.

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Speaker 32: His good time date is twenty twenty eight, and by

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my calculations, he'll be around seventy four when and if

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he lives that long.

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Speaker 5: You know, anybody else want to say anything?

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Speaker 10: Indeed, I've lived in a lot of fear.

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Speaker 33: I have a problem with black people. I can't.

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Speaker 12: Full up at the store and.

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Speaker 18: There'll be black man.

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Speaker 9: I have a hard time.

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Speaker 5: You're scared of him.

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Speaker 12: Not scared of me?

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Speaker 23: This mor morning, No, I wouldn't, but.

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Speaker 18: I wouldn't be alone with you either.

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Speaker 12: But school, there's just a lot of fear. How were

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you when this happening? Fourteen?

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Speaker 4: Cool?

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Speaker 2: It happened, Yeah, twenty years ago.

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Speaker 31: Twenty years means nothing to me.

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Speaker 10: That's yesterday to me. I got two grand babies, both

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of them murals, one of five and one's two.

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Speaker 12: And I was just sitting here thinking and looking at you.

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Speaker 15: Oh.

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Speaker 12: I don't know what I was the last thing like

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that happened to my brand babies.

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Speaker 2: I just know.

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Speaker 5: We feel solid, we feel you sold.

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Speaker 11: This boy is very sympathetic to you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 12: You can rest assured. That's uh, this boy sitting there

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doing stupid thank you you take me said no, no,

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I'm not sitting.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't have that to say time, but I'd like.

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Speaker 12: To hear what he said. I'm gonna hear what he said.

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What do you ask him?

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Speaker 2: Leading the chair right here?

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Speaker 5: Come in and have a seat.

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Speaker 12: I have gomf uh right, good morning.

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Speaker 5: The Simmons.

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Speaker 32: I'm gonna properly identify and then uh, the boy would

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likes you. Questions there and then you you can say

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a few words on your own.

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Speaker 5: Behalf of tells you.

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Speaker 21: So.

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Speaker 5: The full name is Vincentate Simmons.

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Speaker 32: You were sentenced to one hundred years of hard labor,

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and you're as Davis Mort's sixteenth twenty seventy seven.

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Speaker 12: Is that correct? That's theory, and.

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Speaker 5: You've been locked up how many years as of now?

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Mister sunny years twenty years.

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Speaker 32: Yes, Uh, would you answer mister Magick's questions?

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Speaker 12: You know, sir, you committed these two rats? No, sir,

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but you say no such.

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Speaker 11: Tell me what happened?

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Speaker 10: Well, I have newly discovered the evidence, cause I've been

480
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trying to uh get the evidence since I've been.

481
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Speaker 12: Here to prove my innocence. I was you put your

482
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no sufer.

483
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Speaker 34: Okay, they tell you said that they want to be

484
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a a maker of confession, and I told 'em that

485
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I wasn't gonna make a confession cause I was insert

486
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and uh, they'd say, one of one of the offics

487
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,680
hit me and when I tried to jump up, the

488
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,519
other officer jumped up in the shop me and it

489
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in in the police station.

490
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Speaker 5: And then your version is that, uh they just shot you.

491
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,839
Speaker 32: Yes, that I was, and uh, their version is you

492
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,920
grabbed a pistol and you tried to kill them, and you.

493
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 5: Kept pulling the trigger and it wouldn't go off, and

494
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:15,480
another officer came in and shot you.

495
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 11: I was.

496
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Speaker 12: I was handcuffed when out when I was brought in.

497
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Speaker 32: I understand that, but you could still grab a pistol,

498
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:22,599
now you know you did?

499
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,559
Speaker 5: You contending, now you didn't grab it.

500
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 12: I didn't grab the pistol. I was never charged with

501
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the crime.

502
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Speaker 21: Uh.

503
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Speaker 12: They'd tried to justify shooting me the four sip if.

504
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Speaker 14: The officer wanted to kill you when he he wouldn't

505
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:36,519
shot me.

506
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: He shot me.

507
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Speaker 10: Tew many have me ready right above the hut. Later on, Uh,

508
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:46,799
I got out the hospital. They appointed me two attorneys,

509
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and they talked to me once and then I went

510
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to truck.

511
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Speaker 12: We didn't have none of this evidence.

512
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Speaker 10: None of this evidence was presented before the jury, because

513
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the d had it in his files. And in these files,

514
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:04,720
the doctor's report indicate that the girls were vertrips cause

515
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they were examined after the hour was arrested.

516
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,599
Speaker 12: They said, why.

517
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Speaker 5: Haven't those reports by the sides. They said that they

518
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:12,079
was virgin.

519
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,039
Speaker 12: I'd like to.

520
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Speaker 21: See h.

521
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Speaker 12: They testified before the jury that they were brutally.

522
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 10: Rik They repeatedly asked 'em would they be able to

523
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,960
identify this person again if they saw him?

524
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,199
Speaker 12: They say no, because all blacks look alike.

525
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 5: And they put you in the lineup, then't you listen

526
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,119
to the line up? Put you in the line up,

527
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,239
and they said they all picked out.

528
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:00,599
Speaker 12: The man know when they brought me and I was

529
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handcuffed and they was there.

530
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:06,039
Speaker 5: Where's that line up to you?

531
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:23,679
Speaker 2: The picture that.

532
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:20,039
Speaker 5: You were the only one handcuffed in the lineup.

533
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:24,639
Speaker 12: I'm the all in one. That's the other half.

534
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: They just didn't have the water.

535
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 11: Why an't they ever?

536
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 26: No more?

537
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 12: Ain't h.

538
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 5: Are you bringing this case up.

539
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,559
Speaker 34: For rehearing from it presently going to the United States

540
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:40,239
Supreme Court.

541
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Speaker 12: I'm trying to get it announced to this cuan coat.

542
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,159
Speaker 32: InChI yeah, I've been relat Okay, Uh we shall step

543
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:50,360
out way and discuss the case.

544
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 12: It would you have the different call? Yah?

545
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 31: Yeah?

546
00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:12,599
Speaker 35: Kay take pa have to take the mone goodness, Yeah,

547
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:14,280
twenty years I call up something to go.

548
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 32: Yes, he did me, you know about Mama says they

549
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,920
had don't write too much, you know, s we canna

550
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,199
get this.

551
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 12: Take a little bit.

552
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,599
Speaker 32: You can write a book on it after you get

553
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:28,400
to the office.

554
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 5: He did it, He just didn't. Uh you know I

555
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,440
have that, you know?

556
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,559
Speaker 32: Okay, Uh, bring miss Simmons back in just chter Simmons.

557
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,719
Its Simmons have to uh listen to testimony going over

558
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,599
the reports the board his votes this time to deny

559
00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:58,480
your quest for and certainly you have a right to

560
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:01,440
uh to pursue your k aged through the United States

561
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,320
have been important.

562
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:06,079
Speaker 5: I certainly would do that, you know, that's that's your

563
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:06,920
legal right.

564
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,559
Speaker 36: Mm hmmm.

565
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 26: H m.

566
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:39,079
Speaker 36: H m hmmmm.

567
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 12: A hundred years I did twenty on one hundred.

568
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: That mean I got eighty.

569
00:37:56,199 --> 00:38:38,119
Speaker 30: More eat, sleep and work. You know, surviving. I survived

570
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:41,360
all my life, you know, enjoy the time on my

571
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,480
own on the streets or that won't be no problem survive,

572
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,679
you know, knowing.

573
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: The problem that's getting out, it's the only frible.

574
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 30: I ain't too concern about surviving, did you Asublin?

575
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 4: Excuse me?

576
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:03,679
Speaker 37: Six no figger sec twenty s.

577
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 11: I'm all right, you know, I'm just trying to make about.

578
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,199
Speaker 2: Now my f first of the pas boschay.

579
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 13: What I'm all right, y'all can come see me this week.

580
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:31,519
But but you know you're gonna come. That's how you

581
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:32,239
get them gold.

582
00:39:32,280 --> 00:40:08,079
Speaker 20: Though he tried to make me think that he was alright,

583
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:10,800
but I know better, like I hear in his voice

584
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,480
he was scared. He said he's not, but he is

585
00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:17,079
because I feel like reality didn't sit in now, you know,

586
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,480
and you know this is not no dream of this

587
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:21,440
is nothing made up?

588
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 21: This is for real.

589
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 12: How do you do slut or anything?

590
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 26: You are made?

591
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:51,159
Speaker 4: Then I have a cold.

592
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,079
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, he sure don't.

593
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 11: Be all right, and you'll normal be all y'all.

594
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: So I don't even know if the lawyer filed for a.

595
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 20: Field or i'm'a try to get in touch with him.

596
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:08,679
Speaker 4: No more.

597
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,519
Speaker 11: Ah, he don't represent me no more, you know, so

598
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,039
it ain't his job.

599
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: He can't do name.

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00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:22,519
Speaker 15: But it ain't nothing need to do it, no, y'all?

601
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 30: Right, Yeah, yeah, I needed some sod so some TV shirt.

602
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:30,599
Speaker 11: You about to cry or what?

603
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 15: I don't know'm'a y'all, all right, stop crying?

604
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,159
Speaker 2: What seven dollars?

605
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 8: I ain't nothing to tell you.

606
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,599
Speaker 33: I just I just pat to see it, like, just

607
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,480
cause I still don't think you got a fair drive yard.

608
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,599
Speaker 20: But he's accused of nobody. I'll go to my grave

609
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,760
saying if nobody could make me think my baby did

610
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,960
there say now he got a.

611
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 12: Bum deal in coat.

612
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 24: He really did.

613
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 20: It's it's fad when you don't have no money. If

614
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,880
you have money, money, A lot of people say money

615
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,639
don't mean nothing, but that's not true, cause if you

616
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:33,239
have money, money works out a whole lot of stuff

617
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,079
and we just didn't hang up.

618
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:42,679
Speaker 25: And he's going on now, I.

619
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 11: Can't go out there. I see you later, right, I

620
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:46,559
love you.

621
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,199
Speaker 12: Ye love you too, mcau because I know you will.

622
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:54,599
Speaker 2: Ye see say suge.

623
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Speaker 18: While I can walk out there with her, I ain't

624
00:42:57,599 --> 00:42:58,159
think so.

625
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 26: M I love you.

626
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:37,119
Speaker 38: Oh, I'm going over there.

627
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:46,079
Speaker 7: Idea, Well, give you idea, Shrivings handles, Wembley.

628
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 11: That all right, let's see. I'll tell us going that

629
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,679
we can rock. Oh Heaven his father to dam and

630
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,199
your son Jesus Christ. We come together, touching the degree

631
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,239
and ask you to to give us for.

632
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,519
Speaker 14: Our sins and forgive the sins of anybody who was

633
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:58,280
sinned against us.

634
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: It took a Shawnty Witherspoon over ten years to go

635
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,079
from the lowest status inmate to become a Class A trustee.

636
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:09,039
He and a handful of other prisoners at Angola are

637
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:11,760
allowed to participate in programs that take them out of

638
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,360
the prison and throughout the state of Louisiana.

639
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:23,159
Speaker 11: A man here, rough, you don't come side with that, right,

640
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,199
it's always excited. Just like Ronald here, you know, like

641
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,519
he goes up. Sometimes some of us who have been

642
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:31,960
going off for for years. We you know, we go.

643
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 14: If it was a long trip, we would go to

644
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,599
sleep and then wake up, or we get close to shup.

645
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 5: I count to bleds of grass when I'm going out.

646
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:39,639
Speaker 12: I don't lose nothing.

647
00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 5: I don't sleep, I don't blink mind, I watch everything.

648
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 14: Ronald has never gone to sleep on the trip, he said,

649
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,800
he doesn't even blink.

650
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:49,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, cause I hadn't been out for twenty four years,

651
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,840
and I was, you know, very happy to go out

652
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,199
out for his trip.

653
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a long trip.

654
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:57,679
Speaker 12: At that.

655
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 14: Three breath, I find your landmark again.

656
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 11: Same ay you came up. Pays you hall the hand

657
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,960
over there, lock your fingers and elbows.

658
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 14: Fifteen ten, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, nine, ten, eleven,

659
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:48,880
twelveth Okay, as you all know, I'm Georgia Shante Witherspoon

660
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,320
and I'm the president of the CPR team.

661
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 11: We're serious about what we do with CPR.

662
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 14: You know, we just travel and teach anywhere we can go,

663
00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,440
and we're trying to do this as a means to

664
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,719
reach and give something back to society. But we deal

665
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,679
with people who live in at risk life scoles like

666
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,199
you all, or whether there's younger people and so forth.

667
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,159
We're trying to touch them so that they don't come

668
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,760
down the same roads as we do. That you all

669
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,239
are in a good position now to really redirect your life.

670
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 39: Become independent, become healthy, become whole, and stay out here

671
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,760
in the streets and live your life because if you miss,

672
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,320
if you slip, you will be angle a bound.

673
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 11: Don't allow I've tried for twenty five years to get

674
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,960
out of prison. Just suait until the family.

675
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,119
Speaker 14: Right now, we're right here in the heart of Badon Rudge,

676
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:40,360
downtown Baton Rudge before what's this bank one?

677
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: And I'm out here.

678
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 11: I'm out here with you all, filming and so forth.

679
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 14: You know, there wouldn't be any problem for me to

680
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,440
walk away. But the point is I've changed. The point

681
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:53,000
is the thing that I need to do is to

682
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:56,960
be free, and escaping won't give me any type of freedom.

683
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,159
Escaping I'm still on the run. I'm still trapping. I'm

684
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:02,920
still bound by the same thing that I was bound

685
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:08,079
by twenty five years ago. I want real freedom. I

686
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:10,039
want to be able to walk out of prison and

687
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:11,239
actually say that I'm free.

688
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 15: Don't tell me, I.

689
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 26: Say, don't you gonna see this?

690
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 40: Here?

691
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 8: I don't think I could be this free on an outside,

692
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:38,199
not from withind You got men walk around out that

693
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,320
they have the liberty of the physical body, but they

694
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:43,880
don't have it.

695
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:48,679
Speaker 11: But the anybody I was told ignant when I came here.

696
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 8: Now they worried ignorant is a not a mob, but

697
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,360
it's spt meaning the lack of knowledge.

698
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 11: And I was really itch did when I came here.

699
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 8: So now on through the years I submitted myself and

700
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:05,760
now well they be to educated myself. I'll come to

701
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,639
be I damn minister. So that's mean to call me

702
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:09,159
a bishop?

703
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 11: Tiny yell.

704
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 12: Mm, so I'll get that respect.

705
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 25: Now I'm moving out the way.

706
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 41: We don't get bishop up and just let the Lord

707
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:00,639
use him as you will.

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00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 4: Amen, Oh, yes, the count all right, Yes you found

709
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:16,280
all right?

710
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 5: I bet you you may be, can't y'all?

711
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:22,119
Speaker 4: Hear me on them?

712
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 12: Praise God?

713
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 27: That is the way to the state.

714
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: And to be born again.

715
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:40,119
Speaker 42: And lito a holy life, yea, a victoris life. I'm

716
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:46,320
God for life, said well, what about being behind Bob, Bishop?

717
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:55,480
God still exists behind bringing Bob, Thank you diesels. He's

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sanctified and he qualifies and he's where shall the individual.

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Speaker 2: That take knowledge of him and repent.

720
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Speaker 6: I don't care how holdly.

721
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 4: That you are.

722
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,119
Speaker 2: I don't care how sanctified that you are.

723
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:17,039
Speaker 42: I don't care how rich that you are, or how

724
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:17,880
much you come.

725
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,119
Speaker 40: To take, Jesus said repet.

726
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 43: Repent.

727
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 40: I was a young maid, twenty four year old.

728
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,119
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jesus, not a maid.

729
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,639
Speaker 5: It was a maid of good maid on the railroad

730
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,920
track one morning.

731
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 6: And with the crap of my hide and I took

732
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:39,800
that made.

733
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Speaker 2: Life, went on down the railroad.

734
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Speaker 4: Track, got in the.

735
00:50:43,639 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 42: Rock and roll start, and does attained but to pick

736
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:52,280
me up and restcute me, putting me in jails.

737
00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 40: I found out that everybody's hated me and despite me.

738
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 25: But I begin to look beyond the cloud, fed the.

739
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:04,559
Speaker 6: Bright glory a pound out a.

740
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Speaker 15: Love.

741
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 40: You said, Lord, I'm saying of what I've done. I'n't thread,

742
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,639
but I'm done.

743
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 6: I'm sorry for what I've done.

744
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,639
Speaker 4: Wots me save.

745
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 6: Repet repetet.

746
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: After thirty eight years in Angola, Bishop Tennehill was recommended

747
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:58,000
for pardon to walk out a freeman. All that's required

748
00:51:58,159 --> 00:51:59,280
is the governor's signature.

749
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Speaker 44: So why isn't you think, Jen that the governor hasn't

750
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signed the party.

751
00:52:03,159 --> 00:52:05,159
Speaker 11: God having submitted him to sign it.

752
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 8: I believe God is still God, and he controlled all nature,

753
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:14,039
and he's the God of all flesh.

754
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 11: I don't think that's nothing too hard for him to do.

755
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: If I was ready.

756
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: From within.

757
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Speaker 8: To meet the channel from without, then God knows.

758
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 22: Mister Terrio is not eating.

759
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,639
Speaker 5: He's continuing to lose weight.

760
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 45: There's nothing you can give him that he wants to eat.

761
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 22: He's reached the point now to where he's telling us

762
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,119
to me Friday. I think it was that he wanted

763
00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:02,719
us to move him into a room and just make

764
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,840
sure that he wasn't in pain, because he didn't want

765
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,360
any heroics or anything.

766
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 45: When a time came for him to die, just let

767
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:14,559
him die. But I cannot put him in a room.

768
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:19,079
He needs stimulation. He needs people around him. He has

769
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,400
friends from the dorm where he used to be that

770
00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:24,599
comes to see him and they sit and talk to him,

771
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,599
and that cheers him up a little bit.

772
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 12: And I'm ready for it. I figured a couple of

773
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,159
weeks I'll be leaving this planet.

774
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:35,639
Speaker 15: Ready to eat.

775
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 12: How I've been ready.

776
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,639
Speaker 23: I'm strayed with the Lord and I know his word,

777
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,639
and I'm ready to go that's nothing years not a

778
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:47,079
year for you.

779
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 4: No, not really.

780
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,519
Speaker 2: No, I'm not sad.

781
00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:54,079
Speaker 12: I'm happy, you know, I'm I'm happy to be going.

782
00:53:57,159 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 15: Where did he get?

783
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 12: He very Oh, I'm not worthy about that.

784
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,519
Speaker 23: I'm not worried. I have Uh, I have a plot.

785
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,760
My hometown paid for it. Everything, all my systems blows

786
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:17,920
all paid for it. And and uh, I think everybody's

787
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:24,360
gonna be judged and according to to their works and

788
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,199
according to their feelings. And you see, every everybody has

789
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,559
a spirit in it, and every you have a conscience,

790
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:35,559
and it tells you what to do. And if you

791
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,039
do what it tells you to do, uh, you can

792
00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:41,360
pretty well bet you be on the safe side, you know.

793
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:44,360
But if you tell it, if you do what it

794
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,880
tells you not to do, you can very well be

795
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:48,800
on the wrong side.

796
00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:55,679
Speaker 12: It's it's not very hard to understand. And I think

797
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,639
I'm up on the right side. It's just getting time

798
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,920
course to good, that's all I've.

799
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 23: Got to pack it up and.

800
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 2: Good, I'm ready.

801
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,039
Speaker 3: With little possibility of early release, more and more men

802
00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:27,400
are facing the likelihood of dying in prison, and while

803
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,679
many are taken out and buried by their families, those

804
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,199
inmates without resources are brought to point book out the

805
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,199
prison cemetery.

806
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: For most, it's their worst nightmare.

807
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:53,039
Speaker 3: To address these and other issues important to the inmate population,

808
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,360
and Goa's nationally acclaimed prison magazine has been publishing uncensored

809
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,440
investigative reports for the past two decades. The editor of

810
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,599
The Angel LIGHTE. Wilbert Rido, himself a former death row inmate,

811
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,360
has interviewed every man executed in Louisiana during the last

812
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:14,400
twenty years.

813
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 41: Filer, you know, thirty five thirty five since you were

814
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,039
first locked up at age twelve.

815
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 12: How long have you been free altogether since you.

816
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 18: Were twelve, since you're first locked up?

817
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:29,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, every about four years all together.

818
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 12: Since twelve, just four years of your life.

819
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 11: I've been in the world, Uh bothers me and I

820
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,000
want to know who the bothers John is.

821
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:46,039
Speaker 25: Uh yeah, the way I see, uh, well, the cases

822
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:48,039
that I'm aware of down down the walk and some

823
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:48,800
on death Row.

824
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,679
Speaker 12: There's hundreds of cases that are a lot worse than years.

825
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 5: Yes, I guess they felt like I've been messing.

826
00:56:54,599 --> 00:56:56,639
Speaker 12: Up so long they were gonna punish me for it.

827
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 18: You've uh thought about what it's gonna be like, man,

828
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,679
what do you conclude?

829
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:14,039
Speaker 28: H Well, I don't like the part where said I've

830
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:17,320
had the process. They go strough and the far way

831
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,239
they stop you from breathing. I just soonly skip over

832
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,599
that part and stop my heart.

833
00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:28,239
Speaker 29: Really well, they're saying a paper where people take deep.

834
00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 28: Breath bef you already paralyzed, and what's happening is you suffer,

835
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:34,519
you suffocating and you trying to get a breath.

836
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:37,519
Speaker 5: They ain't gotta stop for breakfast. Really, you know, I'm

837
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:40,880
gonna sell and you paralyze so it won't look violid.

838
00:57:41,159 --> 00:57:44,039
Speaker 28: Yeah, but inside your mind is still alive even though

839
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:44,960
you're supposed.

840
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:47,639
Speaker 5: To be asleep, And I wonder about that. That's that's

841
00:57:47,679 --> 00:57:48,400
gonna be a trip.

842
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:49,159
Speaker 4: Yeah.

843
00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:03,119
Speaker 3: The execution room, known as the death House, is located

844
00:58:03,239 --> 00:58:11,360
in the most remote camp of the prison. Periodically throughout

845
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,599
the year, the staff performs an execution rehearsal to stave

846
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:17,360
off any last minute glitches.

847
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,039
Speaker 7: I started a pair of good to come right here

848
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:24,440
with you. Could you find a vine with him? With

849
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:30,760
that much pressure on him? They would be difficult?

850
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,119
Speaker 2: When not do?

851
00:58:33,199 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 12: Because there which one is? Where's the problem?

852
00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 25: Okay?

853
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 12: So this is this is what happens.

854
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:40,119
Speaker 11: This is.

855
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:43,599
Speaker 12: Okay. Actually I'm coming up now.

856
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: One't tend you don't want to cut these things?

857
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 14: Do go?

858
00:58:48,199 --> 00:58:48,679
Speaker 24: You stick them?

859
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: Trained up? You want to cut these off?

860
00:58:50,519 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 12: If that's probably gonna here, I don't want you to

861
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,199
cut them off. Hey, let's kind of attach you stick

862
00:58:54,199 --> 00:58:55,320
it now.

863
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:55,639
Speaker 14: Let it.

864
00:58:55,719 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 12: Let's pretend something to cover everything.

865
00:58:58,559 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: Everybody go out.

866
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 12: Let's pretend were doing it.

867
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:02,679
Speaker 2: See he got his head up pretty good?

868
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 12: Okay? Did it take you for y'all?

869
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:13,079
Speaker 7: Holy you ain't ain't leaving this no pressure, pressure or

870
00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:14,599
turning head and see what happened?

871
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,079
Speaker 43: Still you let's just say that.

872
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 12: All right, that's good, that's good. Tough one?

873
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:22,559
Speaker 14: Two?

874
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: Three to can y'all hear me talk? Can y'all hear me?

875
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 26: Pretty good?

876
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 12: I'm whispering.

877
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 7: Come be a witness right over here and see if

878
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,760
this blocked your view. And if he's laying on a

879
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,840
table and you're set, if you were sitting down though

880
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:40,719
it block your view. Lord van Noy, you'll you be

881
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,880
the one that's a signed when when you go back out,

882
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:43,920
you'll move it over to here.

883
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 12: Okay, that's that we did. Okay, how that feel?

884
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,199
Speaker 3: H John Brown's only hope to avoid execution is a

885
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,199
stay from the courts or a pardon from the governor.

886
01:00:08,519 --> 01:00:11,760
The process begins with a hearing before the pardon board.

887
01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 33: We because they to consider the application John Ashley Brown,

888
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:25,360
who has been sence to jail. Mister Brown, it has

889
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,840
a five or commutation or that that's sense to a license.

890
01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:39,079
Speaker 44: John Brown fully emmits's taard than it's terrible pawn and

891
01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:41,400
for not one moment had he ever sought to blind

892
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,840
anybody else. This is not a case about actually any sense.

893
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:50,360
This is not a case started leading technicalities. This is

894
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,760
a case that dues in our minds to the lawyer

895
01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:58,199
serious constitutional issues that we had to be addressed, and

896
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,880
that had him not an address by the chorus.

897
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:07,679
Speaker 37: We've heard about mister Brown's part and Remo's untimely and

898
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,320
violent death part very skillfully chosen.

899
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 11: His part.

900
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 37: His part was to choose a weapon, find a victim,

901
01:01:15,079 --> 01:01:18,000
kill them and take their money. That's his part beginning

902
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:22,280
to end totality. No parts about it. We've heard about

903
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:26,199
about brain damage, but we know about the brain damage

904
01:01:26,239 --> 01:01:28,440
inflicted by a seven inch bowie k I threw the

905
01:01:28,519 --> 01:01:31,199
nose and into the brain that in the second stab

906
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,840
wound which went through the heart, surely felt mister Laflin's death,

907
01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:37,480
but that wasn't enough. There were eleven more stab wounds,

908
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:40,320
wounds in the back, wounds on the leg. We've seen

909
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,000
testimony that the perpetrator was out of breath and covered

910
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:43,519
with blood.

911
01:01:43,679 --> 01:01:46,719
Speaker 2: Of course, he was in literally a life and death struggle.

912
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,199
Speaker 37: We've heard today about the letter writing campaigns from death row,

913
01:01:50,519 --> 01:01:53,159
yet the postman never fraught my mother a single vetter

914
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,599
for remorse from anywhere. We've heard about deathbeds inversions. We've

915
01:01:56,639 --> 01:01:59,440
heard about nuns going to comfort a man on death row.

916
01:02:00,119 --> 01:02:02,920
These people called my mother. Nobody called and said, I

917
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,159
want you to understand mis Laughlin, that while we are

918
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,639
standing up for this man, we understand that you.

919
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:08,519
Speaker 2: Have concerns too.

920
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,559
Speaker 37: We could trace the supposed rehabilitation and have a supposed

921
01:02:13,719 --> 01:02:16,440
progress that a man who's majored in gold. But at

922
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,960
the same time I have an unfinished astray from an

923
01:02:19,079 --> 01:02:22,159
arts and crafts kit that my mother was unable to complete,

924
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,000
a project made.

925
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 43: For a five to eight year old.

926
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,519
Speaker 37: My mother, while on the eighth floor of Toro Hospital,

927
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,960
was unable to complete the simple asterrak. She's gone through

928
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,079
powerwood fits of putting a luminum four on the windows

929
01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:38,880
so that people couldn't look in. Slept for a year

930
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:42,159
with a gun under her pillow for fear that someone

931
01:02:42,199 --> 01:02:47,119
could escape from Angola and come seek revenge on her, revenge.

932
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:47,039
Speaker 4: For what.

933
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,239
Speaker 12: My family is not calling for vengeance.

934
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 37: There will be no celebration, no cause to celeb There'll

935
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,719
be no rejoicing in this at all. It will, however,

936
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,559
we will take some home in knowing that there's a

937
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:02,360
closure to this.

938
01:03:02,519 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: Ugly chapter in our lives.

939
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,079
Speaker 3: The Pardon Board rejected John Brown's application for Clement City.

940
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 7: I wish there were more forgiveness from the victims, for

941
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,199
those of them made who actually are worthy of forgiveness.

942
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,079
And then you say, well, he murdered and killed, and

943
01:03:35,199 --> 01:03:37,760
he did all the trible things. He's never worthy of forgiveness.

944
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,239
Speaker 2: But it's not medical.

945
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,239
Speaker 12: If you're a Christian, you gotta believe in forgiveness.

946
01:03:42,679 --> 01:03:43,199
Speaker 11: Reel hard.

947
01:03:43,639 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 7: He murdered my son, You needn't be hard. That's the

948
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:51,920
battle between the spiritual and the world. That's the struggle

949
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,880
of life itself. And you see that struggle at the prison.

950
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,880
We see that struggle better than anybody else.

951
01:03:57,679 --> 01:04:01,639
Speaker 12: We see what nobody else sees. No, it's sad what

952
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:02,159
we say.

953
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 13: And this afternoon you're listening to KSP ninety one point

954
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,199
seven on your family dollar from Louisiana State Penitentiary, and

955
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:13,679
it ain't going.

956
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,079
Speaker 11: This is the Rock and Robin and this is December.

957
01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:20,199
Speaker 13: The twenty four is Christmas Eve, and I'm gonna play

958
01:04:20,239 --> 01:04:21,599
you some Christmas music.

959
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 11: Hope you're doing. Find out there and remember to keep.

960
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 25: Up the Christmas spirits and remember the loved ones out

961
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:28,960
there celebrating Christmas.

962
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 11: And I know they wished to we could be there.

963
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,119
It w'et but morning day maybe we will.

964
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:50,239
Speaker 30: Oh oh oh oh oh ohouh oh oh oh oh oh.

965
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 3: In Camp Jay and Goala's most restrictive and punitive cell block,

966
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:18,119
inmates are in twenty three hours solitary lockdown to stave

967
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,960
off suicide and violence caused by holiday depression. The administration

968
01:05:23,239 --> 01:05:24,639
organizes religious visits.

969
01:05:24,719 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: We just want you to know that you're not totally forgotten.

970
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 31: Jay.

971
01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: See how are you doing?

972
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,639
Speaker 11: Bet you ain't seen a sideline?

973
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: Isn't a while we can trying to figure out who does?

974
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 21: It?

975
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 26: Gives me a fair strang.

976
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: Okay, tomorrow's Christmas.

977
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 5: And just remember what it's all about.

978
01:05:44,639 --> 01:05:48,559
Speaker 41: It's not it's not all of this mine of gifts

979
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:50,400
and everything that's from the man upstairs.

980
01:05:51,159 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 4: Just remember that.

981
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 41: Word, it's all about. That will build you up, Okay,

982
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,840
And I can guarantee you we'll be back open.

983
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: I may not land like you here for next Christmas.

984
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 11: No, don't you know. Yeah, we come up and checking

985
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:07,360
on y'all for the holidays.

986
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,239
Speaker 41: You have to see what's going on and say, make

987
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:15,400
sure y'all spirit yea heading up at least, you know.

988
01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:18,159
Speaker 2: For the holidays, see what keeps you going.

989
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 25: And we wanna come and check on y'all for the holiday, say.

990
01:06:22,239 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 41: I make sure your spirited up and it's all right

991
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,679
and probably just all up and where are Yeah, that's.

992
01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:31,159
Speaker 4: All man.

993
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 6: Might thank you.

994
01:06:58,239 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: Hey, you do it?

995
01:07:10,159 --> 01:07:12,079
Speaker 7: Sircus the Maiden, and he'd come here and look down

996
01:07:12,119 --> 01:07:14,719
through here. Ever, look down looks like you're looking through

997
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,880
tunnels and caves to the wady to wire. We'll see

998
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,239
how all this micro security prism as we could keep

999
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,320
the despair down and keep the hope up, and you

1000
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:24,760
won't have anybody try to escape.

1001
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 43: And they have to try to learn to get out

1002
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:29,480
the right way.

1003
01:07:29,559 --> 01:07:33,079
Speaker 7: And that's legally and so forth and uh, even though

1004
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:35,000
you have a life center, he can't.

1005
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,519
Speaker 12: Give up hope and our job believe to keep the hope.

1006
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,079
Speaker 7: And I have hope for him, you know, I do

1007
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:43,679
for the good one that wanna do better then you

1008
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,880
always like winning the lottery, you know, the hope you

1009
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,280
get a the governor signed a pardon for you, and

1010
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,320
and maybe someday you'll get out and another few get

1011
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,760
goes free. Probably eighty five percent of the inmate here

1012
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,280
that are here now would die here.

1013
01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 11: Just marry Christmas before we'll see what Chrestia.

1014
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: No, you're doing good boy.

1015
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 12: I appreciate it. Thank you for having my Paul Randy.

1016
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,559
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, we just waiting for one last document that

1017
01:08:09,639 --> 01:08:11,480
he needs. If he gets that up there be able

1018
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,000
to complete as old ready I wanted.

1019
01:08:14,119 --> 01:08:14,599
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.

1020
01:08:14,639 --> 01:08:16,119
Speaker 12: I'll tell you what I want to say. This one

1021
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:18,720
ain't my lawyers and why we need in my lawyer?

1022
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 14: Did?

1023
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,359
Speaker 12: We don't want to inviody in our pro that's all

1024
01:08:22,119 --> 01:08:24,840
make you left innocent? Answer man ought ought to.

1025
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:25,159
Speaker 38: Be in pro.

1026
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:27,039
Speaker 7: That's the one thing the lawyer too to do a

1027
01:08:27,079 --> 01:08:29,399
real good job of working on read the sentences and

1028
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:30,960
mnciations and then we've seen.

1029
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,279
Speaker 12: Tonian man go pray later.

1030
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 11: That's what's immortal. All right, Okay, okay you take Mary

1031
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,319
correct me at Christians Junior family.

1032
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 12: Okay, three layers.

1033
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 2: All right, how about the.

1034
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 11: Time you have well, you know how it's seventy five years.

1035
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,319
I've been myself twenty five years on that.

1036
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm eliens for paroles.

1037
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,279
Speaker 12: I yelled for now. Yes, come up, okay, got fifty

1038
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:52,800
to go. If you don't, you get a little dread now.

1039
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:17,239
Speaker 46: Come to see bombs all right, all right, leaning, yeah, hey,

1040
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:21,720
bom man, we brought you from the bomb.

1041
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,039
Speaker 43: The boy, he said, oh.

1042
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 11: Bomb all right, you can see.

1043
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, young man, you all right?

1044
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I brought your salad.

1045
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: Bro brought your salad. But now we have some more fruit.

1046
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 11: But all know, b look a look up there you

1047
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,600
getting big now, boy, And that ain't it look good?

1048
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: And I was the other day.

1049
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,359
Speaker 47: A black hole up them and they tell me you

1050
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,079
don't uh union made peace and you you.

1051
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:03,319
Speaker 11: Ready to cash in? I said, I made my peace

1052
01:10:04,359 --> 01:10:05,279
and ready to cash in.

1053
01:10:05,319 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 25: And people want but I ain't call it the above though.

1054
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 4: No, hold, I might not do that as a pall.

1055
01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 2: It's not where you go it's how you go. You

1056
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,720
can the ball, you know what I mean.

1057
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,079
Speaker 11: You could kick and scream and holler and do everything

1058
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:34,319
you want. And where are you going?

1059
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,279
Speaker 12: Sad home to the same place.

1060
01:10:37,399 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 47: Most of the guys in this place, none of them

1061
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,079
want to go in here, I mean, you know they.

1062
01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:47,199
I guess that's the biggest nightmare of the typical guy

1063
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,079
in this place is to die in prison.

1064
01:10:49,319 --> 01:10:51,520
Speaker 25: And if and if you put three feet on the

1065
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,800
other side, I'll be have to say, well, I died

1066
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:58,119
out of prison, and stay of mind, you know, just

1067
01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:00,840
stay putting me three feet on the other side and buried,

1068
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,960
and when you bed to say that I died on

1069
01:11:04,039 --> 01:11:05,000
the other sides.

1070
01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 18: You know, not only diamond prison, but being buried in here.

1071
01:11:08,119 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 47: I guess you're more fortunate than most is. You know

1072
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,600
your family was not a tough to take you out.

1073
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 25: But I'm gonna tell you the secret before you go

1074
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:16,319
too far.

1075
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 11: Well, I'm not going with my family.

1076
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,239
Speaker 25: I told my sisters there. I had my insurance policy

1077
01:11:23,319 --> 01:11:28,119
paid up, my love's paid off park and insurance policy

1078
01:11:28,119 --> 01:11:31,279
and everything. And I'm getting very right up here.

1079
01:11:33,119 --> 01:11:34,039
Speaker 11: That's right.

1080
01:11:34,119 --> 01:11:39,560
Speaker 12: That's why my friend thought, hmm, that is blessed me.

1081
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 6: Oh, Mama.

1082
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 25: Always had good jobs, always had this, always had that.

1083
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,600
And all I had to do is look up there

1084
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,319
and say, God, I'll need something, and you give it

1085
01:11:51,399 --> 01:11:51,600
to me.

1086
01:11:53,159 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 12: That's all I had to do.

1087
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 25: And I wasn't mad enough to buy down the hill

1088
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,960
because I didn't want to be poor, and I wanted

1089
01:12:04,119 --> 01:12:06,039
this and I wanted that. I thought that's what it

1090
01:12:06,199 --> 01:12:10,800
was all about. I thought all that was about life.

1091
01:12:13,279 --> 01:12:16,920
But when it came time to go, I knew I

1092
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,000
had messed up. I knew right then I had messed up.

1093
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,039
I had enough sense to turn around in and ask

1094
01:12:26,119 --> 01:12:28,079
him and this some more time.

1095
01:12:30,039 --> 01:12:31,520
Speaker 11: Even it's in prison.

1096
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 2: I don't like person, you know, I don't believe nobody

1097
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,359
likes prisoner. I don't like prison.

1098
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,079
Speaker 25: But I wanted some more time so I could get

1099
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:42,960
you know it.

1100
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 12: And I've done that, and.

1101
01:12:47,319 --> 01:12:51,039
Speaker 2: That's all that was for me. And I wish Eldiod

1102
01:12:51,119 --> 01:12:51,600
could find it.

1103
01:12:53,359 --> 01:13:01,039
Speaker 7: You know, all the Yoda out of your bluffer.

1104
01:13:01,119 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 18: We fall apart you No, you ain't gonna ball a part.

1105
01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, I be good. UH got the last tick care

1106
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,000
of him man, and we love it.

1107
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 26: Sure work.

1108
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 12: We can both love me. Pree you take cam bat

1109
01:13:14,359 --> 01:13:16,279
that I'll be back for the week.

1110
01:13:16,079 --> 01:13:18,520
Speaker 18: After the tat you take candle right very directly, do

1111
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,039
you think doing about okay?

1112
01:13:20,199 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 5: I think very alright, very rests ye give me some time.

1113
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:28,399
Speaker 11: Way you the brief, see you tomorrow man right, all

1114
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,520
Prince's thing, Harry, Christs Christmas.

1115
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 5: I'm'a say attend you and Sarah and Bay last year.

1116
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:39,079
Speaker 43: Goody eat that's the pigurekay and you got to Uhalian director.

1117
01:13:40,199 --> 01:13:41,199
Speaker 2: They gonna take character.

1118
01:13:41,319 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 12: You can be y m you take too, all.

1119
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:49,319
Speaker 25: Right, sure, knife and then the cover.

1120
01:14:10,119 --> 01:14:12,560
Speaker 27: As you fellas know, we're on the flood watch soul.

1121
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,640
Just stay prepared and be ready. Warden came to be

1122
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,720
in later to let you know the latest update on

1123
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:19,520
what's going on.

1124
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,039
Speaker 5: We have to evacuate fellas and go to Tenth City.

1125
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,199
Speaker 11: Be ready to move because the water will take no prisoners.

1126
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,079
Speaker 27: And as we get ready to go, we're going in

1127
01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:30,359
with our regular.

1128
01:14:30,119 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 2: Broadcast in the day's gospel.

1129
01:14:32,079 --> 01:14:45,239
Speaker 43: Here we go, Jesus, Jesus.

1130
01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:55,039
Speaker 3: That spring, the Mississippi River rose to its highest level

1131
01:14:55,119 --> 01:15:10,399
in a century. If the levees were to break, the prison,

1132
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,600
including inmates locked, the cells would be underwater within four

1133
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:22,159
to six hours. Plans to evacuate were put in effect,

1134
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,000
and all of Angola worked through the night sandbagging to

1135
01:15:26,119 --> 01:15:28,560
save the farm from the might of the Mississippi.

1136
01:15:34,279 --> 01:15:36,199
Speaker 12: So we had to we just had to wipe flame.

1137
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: Prayer would make it.

1138
01:15:38,039 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 7: When you look over crowds here and you see all

1139
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,960
of lights, and you know, know all those inmates ren

1140
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,920
noo sails in that prism and you think, no, I

1141
01:15:45,039 --> 01:15:47,119
want to go run five thousand out tonight. Well I

1142
01:15:47,119 --> 01:15:48,880
don't want to run five thousand now right now.

1143
01:15:49,399 --> 01:15:50,399
Speaker 2: I'm on white a little longer.

1144
01:15:50,399 --> 01:15:51,319
Speaker 12: We're gonna keep on white.

1145
01:15:52,399 --> 01:15:53,239
Speaker 2: You know, we don't know.

1146
01:15:54,199 --> 01:16:03,159
Speaker 12: I think we're okay. We just had to sleep. You

1147
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:06,039
can see the water and higher here than than the road.

1148
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 2: There's never been a higher.

1149
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 7: If their horses saddle, they say, when we move the horses,

1150
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,720
they're gonna know it's serious if we like the horses.

1151
01:16:22,199 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 12: But we're gonna all hanging together. Let's see those roofs.

1152
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,119
You can't even get out of this on the roofs.

1153
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:34,359
Speaker 3: M The river forced its way right to the edge

1154
01:16:34,399 --> 01:16:38,880
of the prison, but a week later gently subsided.

1155
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 2: It was back to business as usual at Angola.

1156
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:53,079
Speaker 14: Mm HMMs about.

1157
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 2: So they shot off.

1158
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 15: Cries plcasts, Yeah, the off top.

1159
01:17:03,039 --> 01:17:05,119
Speaker 33: So what's next when he steps to hear from the

1160
01:17:05,159 --> 01:17:06,920
court justce eve meen sometime.

1161
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 11: But I I gotta move in themorning.

1162
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,239
Speaker 5: They gonna move in the morning.

1163
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 29: To twenty seven year. If we don't hear nothing about

1164
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:17,399
a season, I gotta start it. I don't wanna say

1165
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:18,800
sort my stuff out?

1166
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 26: Yea, what do I want to do?

1167
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,319
Speaker 5: What I want to send home or what I want

1168
01:17:22,359 --> 01:17:23,119
to get into the family.

1169
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,079
Speaker 2: See, he's still pretty off on it.

1170
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:27,199
Speaker 4: Now.

1171
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:32,039
Speaker 5: It ain't finally yet, especially cause I don't wanna.

1172
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 12: Go to my style.

1173
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 29: So I'm hope when they do it, well, if they

1174
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,479
don't rule it go all the way over into tomorrow

1175
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,079
to the actual dent.

1176
01:17:41,079 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 5: It'll still be pending here.

1177
01:17:44,039 --> 01:17:46,399
Speaker 29: But they said he was gonna over it yesterday or today,

1178
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,000
And the longer they hold it it stops us from

1179
01:17:50,039 --> 01:17:51,079
going in the other courts.

1180
01:17:54,079 --> 01:17:55,239
Speaker 12: I don't really have an opinion.

1181
01:17:55,359 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 7: I think it probably might pretty good chance it will,

1182
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,479
but he thinks it's not now. If it does happen,

1183
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,680
once he realizes it's gonnappen, he gonna think it's not

1184
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,279
all the way up to the end, and finally he

1185
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gonna I don't know if he ever thinks it will,

1186
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:10,239
I don't know.

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Speaker 3: With the sixteen hours remaining before his scheduled execution, John

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01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,880
Brown is transferred from death row to Camp F the

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death house.

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Speaker 14: M m.

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Speaker 36: Mmm mm.

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01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 45: I wonder what you give in salatis in court.

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01:19:53,359 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 5: Well, evidently they having a conflict. It could be good,

1194
01:19:55,800 --> 01:20:00,479
it could be bad, but they seemed to be kind

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01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,760
of mixed right now. We just hope our side went.

1196
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:07,000
Somebody's pansy bricks read it. We just hope inside breaks

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01:20:07,039 --> 01:20:10,960
four hours. So if you've never been down here before, no,

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I ain't never been here before.

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Speaker 21: It I.

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Speaker 5: Like the son.

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01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:28,359
Speaker 12: At eleven o'clock. We're gonna read the scripture with all

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01:20:28,399 --> 01:20:30,640
the folks over there, with our people. We're gonna do it.

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01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:31,920
We talked to that already about it.

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01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 18: We're gonna do it.

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01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 12: We're gonna read we have We're gonna read the We're

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01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:36,560
gonna we're gonna read it again.

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01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,319
Speaker 7: We're gonna say a prayer for ourselves. Were gonna ask

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01:20:38,359 --> 01:20:41,079
forgiveness if we're doing something wrong. And uh, that's what

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01:20:41,159 --> 01:20:43,359
we're gonna do. This is this is just life and

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01:20:43,399 --> 01:20:45,039
that's what we do. And I feel real good with it.

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01:20:45,159 --> 01:20:46,640
You know, if I didn't feel good with it. I

1212
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:47,199
wouldn't do it.

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01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 12: Now that I want to do it, I like to

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01:20:49,039 --> 01:20:51,039
do it. But we're okay, we're gonna be fine.

1215
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 7: We're gonna all die and he's just getting out of

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01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,720
this worldless way tonight and so let's just hope he

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01:20:58,800 --> 01:20:59,399
goes to heaven.

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01:21:00,079 --> 01:21:02,359
Speaker 12: I feel like he will, so we feel okay.

1219
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Speaker 18: Do you believe in God?

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01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 12: Yeah?

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01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 18: Did you believe in having?

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01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 35: Yeah?

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01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 18: What's it take for you to get to have him?

1224
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:22,079
Speaker 5: To be christ Like as much as you can? And

1225
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,239
I don't know if I got that for yet.

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01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,560
Speaker 7: He had a meal of of a boil cross fishes

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01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,560
what he wanted to eat, and he ate plenty, ate

1228
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:42,119
a lot and.

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01:21:42,279 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 12: Uh and his crackers and coats and such as that.

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01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,239
Speaker 7: When his family left then he got upset pretty much

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was he would normally maybe expect. We did our own

1232
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,640
thing with him as best we could and cut him

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01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:08,880
backgrounded at twelve twelve pm.

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Speaker 12: We sent a soul for final judgment. The last thing

1235
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,479
he said he actually said a wow.

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01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I don't think we ever give up hope,

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01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,720
And that's where God comes to play in it, because

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01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,399
when we give up hope of being free here we

1239
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:56,920
have to pick up and say, well, we're going to

1240
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:57,840
be free when we die.

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01:22:59,039 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 12: It's the Thank God, and believe in heaven.

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01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 7: Thank God.

1243
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:08,319
Speaker 12: We believe it's not over. When it's over, it's just

1244
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:08,880
over here.

1245
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,159
Speaker 14: The first thing I wanna do when I get I

1246
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:18,520
don't wanna take a bath. I know that might sound strange,

1247
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,439
but you know the little small things that you missed

1248
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,199
by being incarcerated that you remember it brought you so

1249
01:23:23,319 --> 01:23:26,159
much joy when you were younger. And I like to

1250
01:23:26,239 --> 01:23:27,680
go out, and you know, I like to take a back.

1251
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,239
I like to sit down in the bathtub. It's soaking

1252
01:23:30,319 --> 01:23:33,000
a bathtub and just enjoy Its just just sitting there

1253
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:33,600
for a little water.

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01:23:44,039 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: You get out of what was the first thing you're doing.

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01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:46,039
Speaker 4: Oo.

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Speaker 8: It would be so much overfloating for joy Ad, and

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01:23:54,399 --> 01:23:59,399
it would be hard for me to really express myself

1258
01:24:00,079 --> 01:24:03,520
because he would be such a joy and such a

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01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:10,239
womanness just to even smell the atmophear of society, to

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01:24:10,319 --> 01:24:11,319
be at libert there.

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01:24:14,399 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 11: He would be out of sight for me.

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01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,079
Speaker 12: I loved freedom for years.

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01:24:38,279 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 10: I've had dreams of traveling through tunnels, and when I

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01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,399
got to the end, that was freedom.

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01:24:48,039 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 12: If it's the Lord's will for me to be free,

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be free, and I believe that.

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01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:24,199
Speaker 2: Just thank me, Mama. Ever leaves, just please if I'm

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01:25:24,239 --> 01:25:28,520
ever leave, that my main concerned. That's what I'm focused

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01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,399
on right now. I'm ever leave.

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01:25:51,119 --> 01:25:55,119
Speaker 14: Really vurial committee up in there and go and y'all, Bones,

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01:25:55,159 --> 01:25:57,039
everybody was killing Yeah, let's selling.

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01:25:57,239 --> 01:25:59,319
Speaker 11: Okay, you're a sign. Hey man, your dad was a

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01:25:59,359 --> 01:26:01,479
great man. He was the inspirational you.

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01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,239
Speaker 2: Know man, he was the last thing.

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01:26:03,279 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 14: He told us the other day that uh, you know,

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01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,680
he got right with God and he was prepared, you know,

1277
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,079
and they got a couple of guys here was gonna

1278
01:26:10,119 --> 01:26:10,920
talk to you lay there.

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01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,119
Speaker 2: But we knew Bones. He always told us that this

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01:26:14,279 --> 01:26:15,039
is where he wanted to be.

1281
01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:19,520
Speaker 11: You know why why this lot some plate?

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01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 14: Well, he said and quote, you know, you didn't know

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01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,119
anybody out there, and he loved y'all.

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01:26:25,159 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.

1285
01:26:26,199 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 11: He wanted to be here because his friends, you know,

1286
01:26:29,039 --> 01:26:30,439
we'd be able to come back and holler at him,

1287
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:31,479
you know, take care, Bones.

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01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,079
Speaker 2: She wouldn't really know anybody out there.

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01:26:33,279 --> 01:26:38,279
Speaker 10: But y'all, really, bottom line, after he's dead, you can

1290
01:26:38,359 --> 01:26:39,159
do anything you want.

1291
01:26:39,279 --> 01:26:41,039
Speaker 11: And I understood there was some of the ship was

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01:26:41,159 --> 01:26:41,640
my sister.

1293
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,119
Speaker 2: He gave her a palm of attorney, and she didn't

1294
01:26:45,159 --> 01:26:48,920
even ask his chalk. She didn't ask me because it

1295
01:26:49,199 --> 01:26:50,279
wouldn't have happened like this.

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01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 43: You would have taken oh, yes, I'd have taken.

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01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,319
Speaker 47: Him, y'all would not y'all would have took him to Yes,

1298
01:26:55,399 --> 01:26:57,560
we'd have taken him even though he wanted to be

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01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:58,039
buried here.

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01:26:58,199 --> 01:27:01,079
Speaker 11: Yes, we didn't put him as to Mom and Daddy

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01:27:01,359 --> 01:27:02,520
for bloone.

1302
01:27:04,239 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 7: His promised he didn't want to be a burden words

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01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:08,960
and he wasn't a burden.

1304
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 11: No, he wasn't a burden.

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01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 2: I'll see that.

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01:27:11,119 --> 01:27:11,279
Speaker 15: Man.

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01:27:11,359 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 2: We love I mean, we love your dad, man, I

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01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:15,199
mean we loved it.

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01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:33,359
Speaker 4: Free, I free, no long about no more change in me.

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01:27:35,399 --> 01:27:37,239
Speaker 11: My soul in resting?

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01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 4: Did that some blessed? Really? Lord, Loulia and free and

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01:27:53,399 --> 01:28:16,640
free fred long free, Oh my.

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01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:30,560
Speaker 15: Boy?

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01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:31,319
Speaker 26: Coming?

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01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 40: Then come the Lord com faultily my.

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Speaker 15: Sole, this wepping.

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Speaker 4: That the blessing? Yeah, Lord,

