Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
Speaker 3: I'll take one?
Speaker 2: What help? Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. We've
Speaker 2: got a couple of us here. We've got a special
Speaker 2: guest joining us tonight. Very excited. Uh, we got Julia
Speaker 2: Covering joining us to talk about gremlins. But uh, before
Speaker 2: we get to everybody else, Before we get to Julia,
Speaker 2: let's introduce the other people. We got my boy, Headless Giant.
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 4: Sir?
Speaker 2: How are you? Hi?
Speaker 1: You doing? If you want to check me out, you
Speaker 1: can go over to YouTube, Instagram or Twitter Headless Giant Podcast.
Speaker 1: Look that up. And also, if you have any sort
Speaker 1: of occult, sort of mysterious slash strange dream stories, send
Speaker 1: them to my uh and we'll put those out on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com. And uh, that'll
Speaker 1: about do it.
Speaker 2: Thank you awesome, Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate
Speaker 2: you making it. And my man, Jules, how are you, sir?
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 4: What's going on? Guys? Yeah, I'm Jewles, host of the
Speaker 4: Great Pill podcast, The Mississippi Mystic. You know who I am.
Speaker 4: Haven't done in a cult rejects here in a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks, I think. So it's uh, it's good to
Speaker 4: be back, especially around the holidays. And it's good to
Speaker 4: see Doc here as well as Julia and YouTube gentlemen,
Speaker 4: Headless and Nick. So Happy Yule, Happy Solstice, Merry Christmas,
Speaker 4: and I'm looking forward to tonight.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, thank you very much, man, man, and we
Speaker 2: got Doc Brown in the house. What is going on, sir?
Speaker 2: How are you? Thank you very much for making it
Speaker 2: with us today.
Speaker 5: No, man, thank you for inviting me.
Speaker 6: Man, It's just most of the time, with work and
Speaker 6: everything else, I can't make these things.
Speaker 5: So but now I have no excuse, guys.
Speaker 6: I'm officially full time now, so I'll have a lot
Speaker 6: more time to hang out with you guys. But Prometheus
Speaker 6: Limb's podcast anywhere you can consume content, you can find
Speaker 6: me there. And look forward to hanging out and discussing
Speaker 6: some stuff with tonight. Let's get weird and green.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, thank you. I love it. Thank you, sir. Hey,
Speaker 2: we got the Julia the cosmic Peach. What is going on?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 7: What's up? Yeah? I'm excited for this one because it's
Speaker 7: one of my favorite Christmas movies, and it is a
Speaker 7: Christmas movie, not Halloween. Okay, the whole fucking first beginning
Speaker 7: of this shit is Christmas music and Christmas trees. And
Speaker 7: it's definitely a Christmas movie. I know some people are like, oh,
Speaker 7: that's not a Christmas movie like Diehard. Did they put
Speaker 7: it in like the Diehard category. It definitely is a
Speaker 7: Christmas movie. But I'm excited about tonight for having.
Speaker 2: Me, of course, thank you. Uh yeah, I would always
Speaker 2: I would say I remember that even growing up that
Speaker 2: was like synonymous with Christmas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: I remember, like it was even like there's parts I
Speaker 2: remember all the snow and the fake town and everything
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And what's her nuts? Phoebe cats Her dad died playing
Speaker 7: Santa Claus, remember, and she tells like this horrific story
Speaker 7: about him getting stuck in the chimney and his fucking
Speaker 7: corpse got stuck in there and was just like they
Speaker 7: did somebody leave eggs out?
Speaker 4: Now it's wait, Dad, I tried to go down for chimney.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he tried to go down the chimney like Santa
Speaker 7: and he got stuck in there and that and literally
Speaker 7: the only reason that they figured that out is because
Speaker 7: this corpse started stinking in the chimney and they were like, oh,
Speaker 7: somebody better go.
Speaker 4: Look at that.
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, oh it's Dad, Hello, dead in the chimney.
Speaker 6: That town set up just like it was the identical
Speaker 6: one for Back to the Future.
Speaker 5: Was that right?
Speaker 7: It does look like that, Yeah it does. It's almost
Speaker 7: identical to the downtown in Back to the Future, And
Speaker 7: I never thought about that.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 7: There are plenty of conspiracies with Back to the Future,
Speaker 7: but this one in particular I thought was interesting because
Speaker 7: there are there's a there's one character. He's kind of
Speaker 7: like the town crazy guy, and he's always talking about
Speaker 7: how there's there listening to us. And there's Grimlin's quote
Speaker 7: unquote in all of like the technology. Do you do
Speaker 7: you remember that?
Speaker 4: Nick?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember. I think I remember that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he ends up getting it. Yeah, yes, I was going
Speaker 2: to say, had a truck is some ship? I remember that?
Speaker 4: Yeaheah.
Speaker 2: He was like the conspiracy thing.
Speaker 7: He's a conspiracy theory guy, and they're always like making
Speaker 7: fun of him and saying like, oh, it's right or
Speaker 7: whatever the fuck his name is. But he literally he
Speaker 7: talks about how they're always listening to us, and they
Speaker 7: put like bugs in our houses and our TVs and
Speaker 7: our phones. And the reason he drives the tractor is
Speaker 7: because he can't trust like foreign made vehicles. And literally
Speaker 7: he's the conspiracy theory guy in the movie. And spoiler
Speaker 7: alert in case you haven't watched The Grimlins before, which
Speaker 7: if you haven't, fucked you like who hasn't watched The Grimlins?
Speaker 7: But he dies and you know, but I just thought,
Speaker 7: you know, we could talk a little bit about it
Speaker 7: if you want, Nick, we could go around and just
Speaker 7: say when we first watched it or whatever. I was
Speaker 7: a little kid and it was nostalgic for me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, trying to think what did it actually come out?
Speaker 5: Let me pull it up really quick, old eighty eight
Speaker 5: or something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I've always kind of gripped in with movies like
Speaker 4: back uh, you know, Back to the Future, the Goonies,
Speaker 4: and just so everyone knows, this is the closest we
Speaker 4: could get to a Fridgian hat right now. But we
Speaker 4: will be working on models those for the Gray Pilled store.
Speaker 7: So I love it.
Speaker 4: Look, never mind, I was about to start gripping stickers again.
Speaker 5: That guy he was driving that tractor, he had four duys.
Speaker 2: Didn't know. No, I can say that the show kind
Speaker 2: of funny.
Speaker 7: They said that in the movie he had forty d u.
Speaker 4: Y s No. I was just you know, being caddy.
Speaker 5: You know, he need a license to tractor.
Speaker 4: They do. He was.
Speaker 7: He drove the tractor to the bar and they wouldn't
Speaker 7: let him leave in it because he was drunk as
Speaker 7: a scoon. And I thought, yeah, I thought maybe that
Speaker 7: was really part of the movie that he had fourty yo.
Speaker 2: Didn't they get them with his own tractor?
Speaker 4: Two?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's yes. Yeah, they came through the houses window,
Speaker 7: through the house and literally ran him over. Well did
Speaker 7: you see it?
Speaker 6: I seen it when I was just a little kid, man,
Speaker 6: but that's probably It's probably been probably twenty years or
Speaker 6: more since I seen it, but I remember bits and
Speaker 6: pieces of it. And where as a kid, just seeing
Speaker 6: those little dudes, you know, freaked me out.
Speaker 5: But the furry You're like, oh man, those are cute.
Speaker 4: I want one.
Speaker 6: And then they get wet man, remember all the little warts.
Speaker 6: That's there's two things that stood out to me in
Speaker 6: that movie was I can't remember if it was his
Speaker 6: grim Len or if it was another one, but one
Speaker 6: of them got wet and just all these little boils
Speaker 6: and bubbles started popping the ball over their back like eggs,
Speaker 6: and all these eggs just kept bursting like pimples and
Speaker 6: goog going everywhere and that, and then I talked about
Speaker 6: pre roll the I don't remember if that was the
Speaker 6: first one or second one, but where they're in that
Speaker 6: big corporate building and they go all the way to
Speaker 6: the top level and there's the female gremlin with the
Speaker 6: boost the air and push up.
Speaker 5: Brad Lipstick and Peach brought to my attention and said, no,
Speaker 5: that was a male gremlin. It was just a trip.
Speaker 5: Would you call it a tremblin, a trans grimlin?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a grip.
Speaker 1: Or as we call them in reality, gremlins.
Speaker 7: What when's the first time you saw it? Oh?
Speaker 4: I saw it.
Speaker 1: It had to be back in the eighties. It always
Speaker 1: sort of stuck out to me as kind of like
Speaker 1: one of these big marketing movies. So they had all
Speaker 1: these spin offs, all this really interesting merch about it
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and it had a really iconic
Speaker 1: feel with the whole water after midnight or feeding them
Speaker 1: after midnight thing, and you know, that sort of stuck
Speaker 1: around in the popular consciousness for a long time. It
Speaker 1: was also produced by Steven Spielberg, so he was kind of.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. It's a Spielberg and he like
Speaker 7: put little like weird things in there. The guy who
Speaker 7: did the soundtrack, his name is Joe Dante. He also
Speaker 7: did the soundtrack for The Burbs, and there's a lot
Speaker 7: of weird stuff in The Burbs. I don't know if
Speaker 7: you guys have seen it recently with Tom Hanks, but yeah,
Speaker 7: he's a weird guy. Spielberg is obviously a weird guy.
Speaker 7: But my thing is, like it's on Hulu right now.
Speaker 7: You can watch it for free anybody who has Hulu.
Speaker 7: But I forgot how actually creepy it was until I
Speaker 7: just watched it back. Like it's a legitimate It's like
Speaker 7: Crampus or something. It's like a legitimate Christmas horror movie.
Speaker 7: Especially after they get wet and the mom goes upstairs
Speaker 7: and they're they're they've already like hatched out of their
Speaker 7: eggs or whatever, and they're like hunting her throughout the
Speaker 7: house and there's like this weird, creepy music. I was like,
Speaker 7: I can't believe I used to just watch this as
Speaker 7: a kid like, no, big, this is creepy, Like this
Speaker 7: is actually like and then they go to the YMCA
Speaker 7: and they all jump in the pool, uh and there's
Speaker 7: they make that weird noise like ray and it's actually
Speaker 7: like legit fucking creepy as fuck. But my question to
Speaker 7: you guys is do you feel like he snuck like
Speaker 7: some little weird stuff in there? Like, mind you, this
Speaker 7: is nineteen eighty before like all the conspiracy stuff and
Speaker 7: like everything we know about right now, do you feel
Speaker 7: like the story and like I get I guess the
Speaker 7: premise of the movie, like, do you feel like he
Speaker 7: snucks some stuff in there?
Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I mean, so you first see these little
Speaker 4: guys at when he goes to this shop, right, this
Speaker 4: is this shop and there's this magical like Japanese say,
Speaker 4: working there, right and deal like China dah yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: and he makes this bargain, right, and the guy tells him,
Speaker 4: so he kind of tells him that there's these rules
Speaker 4: uh to these these kind of creatures, you know, don't
Speaker 4: feed them past a certain time and make sure that
Speaker 4: they don't get wet and all this stuff. So already
Speaker 4: he's presenting him with this supernatural creature right that that
Speaker 4: you know, who knows how ancient it it is, and
Speaker 4: there's all these rules and kind of guidelines to it,
Speaker 4: these like magical you'd even call it, like you know,
Speaker 4: I will when when I was younger, it really reminded me. Now,
Speaker 4: well now kind of still reminds me of an elf
Speaker 4: or like a leprechaun me doo. And if you look
Speaker 4: into the lore of the elves and the dwarves, there's
Speaker 4: light elves and there's dark elves and lights, so like
Speaker 4: there's different forms of So basically what I'm saying is
Speaker 4: these grimlins could be like an elemental, uh, but as
Speaker 4: it an astral elemental that attached on to I don't
Speaker 4: know what I'm trying to say. Basically, it's it's this
Speaker 4: magical creature. Headless can maybe explain it a little better
Speaker 4: than me.
Speaker 1: Well, if I was going to classify it as as
Speaker 1: some kind of a cryptid, I would I would definitely
Speaker 1: be going for more of like a you know, kind
Speaker 1: of a definitely like an ancestral spirit. It's got that
Speaker 1: feel to it, like there was some sort of a
Speaker 1: linkage back to the place that it was from, so
Speaker 1: Chinese at least, and some kind of a yeah, a
Speaker 1: feeling in that regards. But I don't know, I have
Speaker 1: to I have to actually see, like is this this
Speaker 1: seems like a homunculous type right, because.
Speaker 4: That's what I say.
Speaker 7: I didn't want to say it, but yeah, you know
Speaker 7: this this I can and a cat fucked you'd get
Speaker 7: a mug why, which is what Gizmo was right, because
Speaker 7: there's grimlins and then there's the mug why, which is
Speaker 7: what they start off as when they're all furry and
Speaker 7: cute and they're big little giggly eyes. But let's like,
Speaker 7: let's just let's just take this and like unpack it
Speaker 7: for a second. Maybe it was just bad acting, but
Speaker 7: this guy's like, oh, I needed a last minute Christmas
Speaker 7: gift for my son, and I went to Chinatown in
Speaker 7: this weird little Chinese kid told me to go underground,
Speaker 7: down an alleyway through a pathway down underground into this
Speaker 7: shop with a bunch of like incense burning and a
Speaker 7: weird Chinese guy with one eye. And he told me
Speaker 7: about this cat hamster thing that could sing, couldn't get wet,
Speaker 7: could talk, shouldn't eat after midnight and what was the
Speaker 7: last roll.
Speaker 4: Food?
Speaker 2: Sunlight and can't get wet.
Speaker 7: Can't get wet. Yeah, So like no questions for the
Speaker 7: Chinese guy, Like, no questions. If you went into Chinatown
Speaker 7: and you saw this fucking thing in a cage, singing, talking,
Speaker 7: looking around, looking like a half cat, half hamster, You've
Speaker 7: got no questions. You're just like, name your price. I
Speaker 7: need a gift for my kid for Christmas. This cat
Speaker 7: hamster that singing and talking, Like what's going on here?
Speaker 7: He was like, Oh, that's really cool, this half cat
Speaker 7: hamster thing that sings and talks. But hey, would you
Speaker 7: like to buy this bathroom buddy?
Speaker 2: And then I try to sell him.
Speaker 7: This toothbrush thing, like what's good? Like that's that's like
Speaker 7: your main concern After you just saw that creature, I
Speaker 7: would say facetiming people. If somebody pulled that out, I'd
Speaker 7: be like.
Speaker 4: Look at this, Look at this thing.
Speaker 7: It sings and talks. And he was like, with a mug,
Speaker 7: why comes much responsibility? I can't sell it at any price.
Speaker 7: And the little Chinese kid is like, oh, fuck him,
Speaker 7: we need the extra money. Sold it to him for
Speaker 7: like two hundred dollars or whatever, and he just takes
Speaker 7: it home, just takes it home. No questions asked. Don't
Speaker 7: get it wet, don't feed it after midnight, and don't
Speaker 7: get it in bright lights. This thing could be like
Speaker 7: a caged monkey that when you let it out it
Speaker 7: rips your face off. No questions, unidentified creature. Somebody needs
Speaker 7: to call National Geographic on this thing. No questions asked.
Speaker 7: He puts it in the car and he takes it
Speaker 7: home to his family.
Speaker 2: I just think it could have came up. I guess
Speaker 2: better structure, better introduction.
Speaker 3: Is weird.
Speaker 1: Straight home from the wet market.
Speaker 2: Yo, Right, that's funny. I mean one thing I do
Speaker 2: find well, I mean, I guess you're looking at the
Speaker 2: movie now too. I mean the whole idea of the Gremlins.
Speaker 2: I mean that was already like he already took that
Speaker 2: from Twilight Zone. But the one thing I do find
Speaker 2: like interesting even with that, like in the movie it
Speaker 2: was kind of like a plane failure, like there was
Speaker 2: a mechanical failure going on the plane. Now I know
Speaker 2: not all of it. It always is like that, but
Speaker 2: in the movie you always do see them also like
Speaker 2: toying around with electronic devices, the TV, the fucking toaster lights,
Speaker 2: like breaking things and always fucking shut up. So I
Speaker 2: even you do kind of see almost like that grum
Speaker 2: when now crossing over into that movie, it's still closing up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: problems with appliance isn't just breaking shit for no reason.
Speaker 7: Especially with like the dad's weird inventions. He's like, oh,
Speaker 7: I made a juice maker that sprays fucking pulp all
Speaker 7: over the kitchen, or like he has like, uh, something
Speaker 7: that's supposed to be a can opener. Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 7: but he's just got all these inventions that don't work.
Speaker 7: And he brings the.
Speaker 2: Weirdspect to gadget.
Speaker 5: Yeah literally, yeah made all those weird gadgets.
Speaker 7: He brings this thing to his house, wraps it up
Speaker 7: it like with wrapping paper because it don't need to
Speaker 7: breathe or anything, I guess, gives it to his kid
Speaker 7: and he's he's like, oh, is it a puppy. No,
Speaker 7: it's an unidentified creature I got from a blind Chinese
Speaker 7: man in an underground cave in Chinatown, like no questions asked,
Speaker 7: Like that's just supposed to be normal. And he opens
Speaker 7: it up and he's like, yeah, it's a mug. Why
Speaker 7: And then he tries to call it the Peltzer pet,
Speaker 7: like he wants to make more of them and like
Speaker 7: market them and like sell them to people. Wow, it's
Speaker 7: it's just it was weird to me because again, what
Speaker 7: the like if somebody brought that home to you, would
Speaker 7: you just be like, yeah, let's just start trying to
Speaker 7: breed them, just like sell them to people. It's Christmas
Speaker 7: gifts And no, no, nobody's calling National Geographic on this thing.
Speaker 7: It literally talks and sings and can play the piano.
Speaker 2: I'm almost positive the name too, goes back to like,
Speaker 2: oh man, some Asian language that spirit demon.
Speaker 4: These are the spirits right here. And if you notice,
Speaker 4: you see serpents, you see crescent moons and horns, well
Speaker 4: horns in the shape of crescent lands. But you know,
Speaker 4: so you see a lot of symbolism here already. I mean,
Speaker 4: that doesn't really look like what they look like in
Speaker 4: the movie. I'd like to see a movie with with
Speaker 4: these guys. Looks more like the teenage mutant. Uh, teenage mutant?
Speaker 4: Who are the two guys from that one movie? Oh god,
Speaker 4: who I'm talking about right there?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, But you know, mag white is Cantonese for demon,
Speaker 2: a spirit, a monster. Shut up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, so that's just one depiction of them.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, it's a spirit, of.
Speaker 4: Course, it is all all these things are spirits that
Speaker 4: physically manifest and that that's what I was saying. So
Speaker 4: when I was a kid and I saw this movie,
Speaker 4: like it really scared me, but it just reminded me
Speaker 4: of like you know, like I said, like just this
Speaker 4: little creature, like a little elf or something. But as
Speaker 4: I kind of I think, I saw it a few
Speaker 4: years ago with my son, and you know I kind
Speaker 4: of got, you know, picked up on these magical little
Speaker 4: undertones here here and there that I should have done
Speaker 4: more research on the ancient Chinese aspect of it. But
Speaker 4: you know, bringing up them the magwa being, I think
Speaker 4: that that's how you say it, right, being ancestral spirits.
Speaker 4: It goes along with what Headless was saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you remember the movie the Chinese movie with well,
Speaker 1: it was the Disney movie about the Chinese girl what
Speaker 1: was like Mulan right where she's in the temple and
Speaker 1: there's all these sort of deities on the wall that's
Speaker 1: associated with their family lineage. That's sort of the same
Speaker 1: idea here. He's got it with them. So he's keeping
Speaker 1: it fat, and then it's giving the family line good
Speaker 1: luck because they're like immortal beings and just as long
Speaker 1: as he goes by the rules, they keep getting good
Speaker 1: luck from it.
Speaker 4: Right, And.
Speaker 7: That was like an ancestral spirit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's a portal and he's got to keep
Speaker 1: it with them.
Speaker 4: But with the water, you know, you see a little
Speaker 4: bit of alchemy there, like you go through this alchemical transformation. Also,
Speaker 4: you know there's an elemental aspect to it as as well.
Speaker 4: That's why I had brought up you know, are these
Speaker 4: some kind of like elemental spirit that had manifested or
Speaker 4: you know, conjured into something long ago?
Speaker 1: Toys all about the four elements. So if you got
Speaker 1: averse alchemy too.
Speaker 6: You know in alchemy you get you take something black
Speaker 6: and put it through the process and whiten it and
Speaker 6: purify it. But here you had something white and purified
Speaker 6: that you had turned black.
Speaker 4: Right. Yeah.
Speaker 7: All the little mugwise that like popped off of GisMo,
Speaker 7: where evil from Jump Street. They were like messing with
Speaker 7: the clocks and how so they could get fed after midnight.
Speaker 7: They had like a whole agenda so they could transform,
Speaker 7: and they were they were all evil. The one set,
Speaker 7: and maybe maybe I took it as this is what
Speaker 7: they were implying. But he takes one to school with
Speaker 7: him in a box and gives it to his teacher,
Speaker 7: and I'm pretty sure that one killed the guy, the
Speaker 7: black guy, the professor guy. I'm pretty sure it murdered him,
Speaker 7: So I think I think he was the first one
Speaker 7: to die. And because he had it in a cage
Speaker 7: and it ate like a turkey sandwich or something, and
Speaker 7: when he came back into the school, it was like
Speaker 7: up in the ceiling and like jumped down on him
Speaker 7: and decapitated him or something. But it's just like it's
Speaker 7: it's one of the weirdest and of course it's Spielberg.
Speaker 7: But I think the fact that Corey Feldman is in
Speaker 7: this movie is a little bit telling, because he, of
Speaker 7: course has a lot to say, but he was so young.
Speaker 7: The Grimlins was one of his very first movies. And
Speaker 7: I actually watched his new documentary last night. It's called
Speaker 7: Corey Feldman Versus the World. You can get it on YouTube.
Speaker 7: It's like an hour and forty minutes long. I yeah,
Speaker 7: he's a money grubbing, grifting, bedazzled, crotchless panty wearing like.
Speaker 5: Ed Hargie.
Speaker 7: Oh, he's got a lot of problems, but he does
Speaker 7: talk a lot about like the age he was when
Speaker 7: he did the Grimlins and like people messing with him
Speaker 7: and molesting him and he I mean, this was a
Speaker 7: Spielberg and he was in The Goodies, which was also
Speaker 7: a Spielberg. But I can only imagine, like what was
Speaker 7: going on. Like, I don't know, the guy, the the
Speaker 7: main kid in the Grimlins never really did anything after that.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure that's the only thing I ever saw
Speaker 7: him into.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 7: It just it's all weirdness.
Speaker 6: And one thing I was thinking about as you guys
Speaker 6: are talking, Like I said, it was many years since
Speaker 6: I've seen it, but as you guys are talking, I'm getting,
Speaker 6: you know, some flashbacks and stuff. But uh, one thing
Speaker 6: that stood out to me. And tell me if I'm
Speaker 6: reaching a little bit, guys, because uh, I'm kind of
Speaker 6: new to the esoteric kind of stuff. But it's like
Speaker 6: it's almost like a duality with them. Yes, you have
Speaker 6: this you know, good wise sage, and then on the
Speaker 6: other hand you have the evil trickster spirit. Like you said,
Speaker 6: they were changing the times on the clock mess with
Speaker 6: all the electronics, and uh so it's kind of like
Speaker 6: this this trickster element to it, and you have the
Speaker 6: whole ayahuasca trips and stuff, and they talk about these
Speaker 6: mechanical trickster elves.
Speaker 4: You know, could this you know?
Speaker 5: Maybe so I took some bad.
Speaker 6: Mushrooms or something back then and seen these little guys
Speaker 6: and maybe that was the inspiration.
Speaker 4: So I said, it kind of reminded me of some
Speaker 4: dark elves or something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they because they they string the dog up outside
Speaker 7: and try to kill it. They just do like all
Speaker 7: kinds of weird stuff. But I do have two references.
Speaker 7: And I know it's been a while since you guys
Speaker 7: watched this, but anybody in the comments who has watched
Speaker 7: it recently will get this. But I've always talked about
Speaker 7: how I think the Wizard of Oz was probably one
Speaker 7: of the first MK ultra movies ever made.
Speaker 4: I talk about how the.
Speaker 7: Colors, the storyline, the disassociation, she's leaving and going to
Speaker 7: this magical place, and it's kind of like before Alice
Speaker 7: in Wonderland, there was Wizard of Oz for kids to watch,
Speaker 7: and it's along those same lines of like disassociation, hallucinogenic
Speaker 7: weird stuff, and the beginning of the Grimlins is kind
Speaker 7: of telling the story of Dorothy and the mean lady
Speaker 7: that lived down the street that wanted to murder her dog.
Speaker 4: Do you remember that?
Speaker 7: So in Grimlins, the mean lady, the kid's dog knocked
Speaker 7: over her snowman or something. Her name's Missus Deegle, and
Speaker 7: she goes and she finds the dog and says she
Speaker 7: wants to give it a slow, painful death and she's
Speaker 7: gonna get it and she's gonna like torture the dog
Speaker 7: and stuff like that, and she's always coming after the
Speaker 7: little boy and his dog. And she looks, yeah, she
Speaker 7: literally says something like that, and she looks like the
Speaker 7: Wicked Witch of the West. If you pull up Wicked
Speaker 7: Witch of the West and Missus Deegle, they both have
Speaker 7: like that long, pointy weirdness. And I just thought it
Speaker 7: was it was odd that he would have started the
Speaker 7: movie with almost like because that's how the Wizard of
Speaker 7: Oz starts, because she's like, I'll get your little dog,
Speaker 7: and then she turns into the Wicked Witch of the
Speaker 7: West after she goes to Oz. And that's exactly how
Speaker 7: The Grimlin starts out. Is this mean pointy nosed lady
Speaker 7: coming after his dog, saying she's gonna torture it and
Speaker 7: give it a slow death and she's coming after it
Speaker 7: and blah blah blah. And then later on in the
Speaker 7: movie there is a scene where they go the Grimlins
Speaker 7: like take over a movie theater and the movie they're
Speaker 7: watching is Snow White and it's about the Dwarves or
Speaker 7: the Elves or whatever the fuck they are, those little
Speaker 7: tiny guys. Yeah right, yeah's alchemist. Yes, I just feel
Speaker 7: like he put little weird stuff, like a little Wizard
Speaker 7: of Oz reference and a little bit of like Alchemy
Speaker 7: reference and a little bit of Dizzy Knee reference with
Speaker 7: the Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. And then it's
Speaker 7: like Doc said, there's a trans grim in there, and
Speaker 7: there's a weird conspiracy guy that keeps saying like the
Speaker 7: government spugged to his house. And I don't know, there's
Speaker 7: just like so much to unpack with this movie.
Speaker 4: I'll let you guys go.
Speaker 1: Well, in the narrative arc, you've got the idea of
Speaker 1: leaving home and going into the call to adventure, right,
Speaker 1: so that's sort of like a departure. And then once
Speaker 1: this thing shows up. It's like they're in a different
Speaker 1: world because the rules that they used to have didn't
Speaker 1: work anymore. So in essence, it's kind of the same thing,
Speaker 1: like everything's been shifted to a different plane of existence,
Speaker 1: kind of like the Wizard of Oz. So that could
Speaker 1: be the pattern between the two of them.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's like where's after they kind of attacked
Speaker 7: the mom in the house? Where are the fuck? Where
Speaker 7: the fuck are the parents for like the rest of
Speaker 7: the movie, because it's just the two older kids and
Speaker 7: they're literally downtown doing all this stuff, trying to catch
Speaker 7: all the grimlins and like cook them in microwaves and
Speaker 7: blow them up and stuff, and it's like, where are
Speaker 7: the parents when this is going on? Like literally And
Speaker 7: he even takes Gizmo to the police station and he's like,
Speaker 7: look this. Watch when I put water on it and
Speaker 7: these little things pop out and they're evil and they're
Speaker 7: taking over the town. The police officers are just like laughing,
Speaker 7: like oh ha ha. It's like who what, Why the
Speaker 7: fuck are we not calling National Geographic on this shit.
Speaker 7: It's like if somebody brought that into my house, I
Speaker 7: would literally have a conniption. This is an entire mystical
Speaker 7: creature being. And they're just like, oh, it's a grimlin
Speaker 7: whatever or a mug why? Uh yeah, what the fuck
Speaker 7: is it? It's a hamster cat that sings and plays
Speaker 7: the piano. And nobody is upset about this. Nobody's upset
Speaker 7: about this.
Speaker 4: You know, I never thought about that. How they called
Speaker 4: the witch from the West the wicked one? Right, nice
Speaker 4: play on words. There another thing I was going to say.
Speaker 4: And I know, you know, I'm the kingdom beating dead horses.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: We talk a lot about Tulpa's on my show. And
Speaker 4: this is the thing with the Grimlin, the idea of it. Uh,
Speaker 4: these kind of rules and these guidelines. It's the same
Speaker 4: idea with the tulfa. You know, you you you have
Speaker 4: the consent or you give the consent to buy this grimlin. Right,
Speaker 4: you're you're it's this transaction. You do the same thing
Speaker 4: with the tulpa when you meditate on it, right, you're
Speaker 4: consenting to creating it. Now you look away. You don't
Speaker 4: take care of this thing.
Speaker 2: You may you know.
Speaker 4: And in the case of the gremlins, they eat after
Speaker 4: a certain time, right, they get wet, uh you know
Speaker 4: you then they start to kind of get a little
Speaker 4: uh malicious and start to have you know, like you said,
Speaker 4: act like a little tricksters and whatnot. It's it's the
Speaker 4: exact same idea when it comes to the Tulpa. So
Speaker 4: interesting and.
Speaker 7: Their murder is they're literally murderous.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, doc Oh, I just want to say, there's
Speaker 6: something about that time period too with these little grimlin
Speaker 6: little monster dudes, because you guys remember that film, uh,
Speaker 6: the other one.
Speaker 4: There, there's I just pulled up a depiction of one,
Speaker 4: an actual stone carving of a magua in China. That's
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a grimlin literally heads under his paul.
Speaker 1: Right, there's an egg there's where this uh the lions
Speaker 1: have their their their paws on this like what's it
Speaker 1: called flower of life motif. And it's interesting that it's
Speaker 1: using that same sort of pattern.
Speaker 6: And he has that thing, that thing around its next,
Speaker 6: just those little demon dudes off the Gate, That's what
Speaker 6: I was getting at.
Speaker 4: You remember that The.
Speaker 2: Gate, Oh my god, that movie The Gate with that
Speaker 2: hole in the backyard. You remember that ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all them little brown dudes running out.
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 5: I got the three.
Speaker 2: I've thought about covering that on the fucking show. That
Speaker 2: ship is classic.
Speaker 5: I have to tell you.
Speaker 2: That's why bother know that is funny as hell, dude,
Speaker 2: that you thought, yo, that is classic. That was like
Speaker 2: playing the record backwards and everything like oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: be Gone, be.
Speaker 4: Gone, and.
Speaker 2: The movies were fucking cleazy.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: But you know, I do want to kind of go
Speaker 2: back to something that Doc was saying earlier that I
Speaker 2: was actually thinking about. As he said it kind of
Speaker 2: with uh, you know, with the Maguay and the Gremlin.
Speaker 2: I would kind of almost look at the Maguay a
Speaker 2: little bit more like almost like the hermit, kind of
Speaker 2: like somebody who was very withdrawn, you know, not really.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you go by those rules, you're not
Speaker 2: really you're not eating much, which would be kind of
Speaker 2: like a magician possibly working on something serious. You know,
Speaker 2: you're not going out as much. I mean, if you're
Speaker 2: doing an Abra Mellen ritual, you're stuck inside that house
Speaker 2: for fucking how long. So it's almost very like almost
Speaker 2: very like serious made of maybe people that are devoting
Speaker 2: themselves to a magic act or ritual. And then you
Speaker 2: have the tricksters, who, in my opinion, would almost be
Speaker 2: like the complete opposite or the person that has experienced
Speaker 2: it now and comes back and understands the joke of
Speaker 2: this reality, and they understand how to play with people
Speaker 2: and fuck with people because they understand psychology. But I
Speaker 2: do see like almost like very Yin and Yang too,
Speaker 2: like Doc was saying, like very extremes, you know, I
Speaker 2: see that very much. I think with those two.
Speaker 4: Characters, the duality. Yeah, man, the doctor Jackyll hide thing
Speaker 4: going on, right.
Speaker 7: And I so the guy who did the soundtrack for
Speaker 7: The Grimlins, I mean earlier. His name is Joe Dante,
Speaker 7: and I think Dante. I don't know if that's his
Speaker 7: real last name or not, but you know, sush, he
Speaker 7: did the soundtrack for The Burbs, which is a movie
Speaker 7: about It's got Tom Hanks in it and Corey Feldman
Speaker 7: and it's another Spielberg and it's about a family of murderers,
Speaker 7: serial killers who move into the suburbs and all the
Speaker 7: neighbors are trying to like oust them because they feel
Speaker 7: like there's something where they're like digging graves in the
Speaker 7: backyard and shit.
Speaker 1: Literally satanic panic head, have you seen it?
Speaker 7: Can you help me here describe it?
Speaker 1: Because well they're all convinced that these guys are like
Speaker 1: into his evil shit. They start having hallucinations about it too.
Speaker 1: It's it's very strange. And the whole time they're just
Speaker 1: freaking out that there's like bodies in the backyard or
Speaker 1: they're up to really strange stuff at night. So Tom
Speaker 1: Hanks is in this total paranoia mode. And it's funny
Speaker 1: because that's right in the middle of the Satanic panic
Speaker 1: as it's going on. And I don't know, I think
Speaker 1: the Urbs maybe either it was before or maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit after the whole phenomenon, but play right into that.
Speaker 7: The Burbs came after the Grimlins, and I have I
Speaker 7: don't know if I can do a share screen because
Speaker 7: I'm not logged in, But there is a scene in
Speaker 7: the Burbs where Tom Hanks is in the kitchen with
Speaker 7: Corey Feldman and they're like talking, and there is a
Speaker 7: scene where it like pans across the kitchen and it
Speaker 7: zooms in kind of on this box of cereal and
Speaker 7: it's the Grimlins and it's this it's the Steven Spielberg,
Speaker 7: Joe Dante, he did the soundtrack for The Burbs and
Speaker 7: the Grimlins. Corey Feldman is in the Burbs and the Grimlins,
Speaker 7: and then there's this this box of cereal. It's actually
Speaker 7: so cute, but I wanted to show you. Can I
Speaker 7: do a share a screen? Let's see.
Speaker 5: Is it Captain Crunch Gremlins? Good least, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Did they have that? I don't remember.
Speaker 5: They should.
Speaker 2: What is it again that you're looking for? Maybe I
Speaker 2: can find it.
Speaker 7: I got it right here. Can you see this? See
Speaker 7: the box of cereal in the back? I think there's two.
Speaker 7: This is the box that's in the background, just for reference,
Speaker 7: and it's literally like consuming little mogwise.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's weird to me they made a cereal Huh, yeah
Speaker 7: it is. It's weird to me because like this scene
Speaker 7: right here, this is a completely different movie, and it's
Speaker 7: like they just put that in the background for you,
Speaker 7: those little box of Grimlins cereal. And it's kind of
Speaker 7: like what Headless was saying. The movie has a lot
Speaker 7: of like weird occultism and like satanic panic stuff. But
Speaker 7: let me see, how do I stop?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a scene where they're in the basement and
Speaker 7: it's they're talking about do you remember this, Headless? And
Speaker 7: they have this big book with a bunch of occult
Speaker 7: rituals in it, and they're talking about worshiping the devil
Speaker 7: and stuff like that, and literally in the background in
Speaker 7: the kitchen is this box Grimlin Cereal. And I think
Speaker 7: that they just put that in as like kind of
Speaker 7: an easter egg, Like these two things might be connected,
Speaker 7: like the stories might be similar, this story of weird
Speaker 7: satanic serial killers that live in your neighborhood and weird
Speaker 7: magical devilish creatures that you can just bring into your house,
Speaker 7: and like, it's it's odd to me that. And Corey
Speaker 7: Feldman's in both of them, and I don't He's never
Speaker 7: said anything about Tom Hanks, but there's some weirdness that
Speaker 7: went on between those two because Tom Hanks was like,
Speaker 7: I will not be on a set with children, and
Speaker 7: they made him be on the set with children. He
Speaker 7: and he he didn't even want to do the movie
Speaker 7: because Corey Feldman was going to be in it. It's like, oh, what,
Speaker 7: you can't be tempted? Is that too much for you?
Speaker 2: Like, like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 7: I don't know, It's just weird, dude.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he made so Corey Feldman made this movie.
Speaker 4: It's like the Life No, A Tale of two Corey's
Speaker 4: and uh it was about him and Corey Headless and
Speaker 4: uh it's just it's awful, Like it's just a terrible movie.
Speaker 4: But uh he he depicts like in the movie how
Speaker 4: like Corey Haim was like gay and he wasn't Like
Speaker 4: it's really just like kind of a hack job on
Speaker 4: his dead friend, to be honest with you, But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually saw that one. It was terrible.
Speaker 4: It was terrible. He wasn't doing anything, was getting his
Speaker 4: hair pulled graphic graphic. It was fucking and and you're
Speaker 4: you're thinking, like, why is he portraying his friend like this?
Speaker 4: But he's like he got he only uh sub to
Speaker 4: do you know, to do it all or something, and
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, okay, why it was on the Lifetime too.
Speaker 4: I was very surprised.
Speaker 7: It was like documentary style or like a movie.
Speaker 4: It was like a documentary.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: It was like, yeah, oh Jesus, well, I mean, if
Speaker 7: you've watched that when you should just go ahead and
Speaker 7: watch this new one that just came out, because.
Speaker 4: Oh my, that was and he went on Good Morning America.
Speaker 7: He got roasted by the way.
Speaker 4: He shouldn't have gone on He just that. I mean,
Speaker 4: he just should have been on there.
Speaker 7: I a million dollars, that's what he said. Oh yeah,
Speaker 7: he said, he said, I need to raise ten million
Speaker 7: dollars so I can give out the names of the people.
Speaker 2: I remember that. Yes, security, he kept saying too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no one was with his bedazzled crotch pants
Speaker 7: in his age.
Speaker 4: Well he euld go and get these drug addled women
Speaker 4: off the streets of l A and then like get
Speaker 4: him on like methadone and fucking like put him in
Speaker 4: his house and then be like, Okay, there's these rules.
Speaker 4: You can't eat meat, you can't do this, you have
Speaker 4: to call me like sir and like all this really
Speaker 4: like there were some girls that that like, uh escaped.
Speaker 4: I guess you could say it's like a colt, Like seriously, they.
Speaker 7: They compared him to like Charles Manson and ship and
Speaker 7: honestly there was the yeah, they he has all these
Speaker 7: rules for the girls and they can't like leave the
Speaker 7: bus without him, and they can't like drink water without
Speaker 7: him and like stuff. Yeah, and he calls him his angels, but.
Speaker 4: He breaks those rules, you'll be a fallen angel.
Speaker 1: Guys, do you want me to read the account The
Speaker 1: rape of Corey.
Speaker 7: Haim as told by Corey Feldman.
Speaker 1: As told by Corey Feldman, Okay.
Speaker 6: You say, Julia, she's all about anal bleeding and stuff,
Speaker 6: the b whole action.
Speaker 4: We gotta get.
Speaker 2: That point. I was like, we need a pink.
Speaker 4: So somehow I was gonna say, are we going to
Speaker 4: go one show without talking about Phallis or buttholes?
Speaker 8: The hole for Christmas married, We backed right into it
Speaker 8: with Corey Feldman. Literally no, told by Corey Feldman, Let's
Speaker 8: hear this.
Speaker 2: Let's the first time.
Speaker 5: It was the first poke.
Speaker 1: So Charlie shed on the set of his nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: six film Lucas Uh between two trailers where she'd allegedly
Speaker 1: bet ham over and used criscal oil as lubricit, and
Speaker 1: did it broad daylight before.
Speaker 3: Did he.
Speaker 7: Chrisco for the tiger's blood? Yeah, Chris Cole so that
Speaker 7: was supposed to be Cory Caine.
Speaker 4: He got.
Speaker 1: With Crisco. Charlie, she just I guess that's just not
Speaker 1: a ramp I don't know.
Speaker 2: He went on a ramp man.
Speaker 7: He rampaged through his people.
Speaker 9: Did Oh my god, I just imagined Charlie she going here?
Speaker 9: He is cris and then running out there.
Speaker 7: You had to be like comp repaired. Though, if you
Speaker 7: just like had Crisco after Reding, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: you just had Crisco after Ready. I asked him for
Speaker 7: some Crisco when I was in labor. I said, you
Speaker 7: better put something down there. I guess Chrisco loop that
Speaker 7: ship up because I ain't trying to bust my taint
Speaker 7: wide open. They didn't have nothing. I wish Charlie Sheen
Speaker 7: would have been there, because he would at least came prepared.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come, Julia, Well, I'm just saying that's all.
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm serving woman's thinking about that. Honestly, I went to.
Speaker 7: One hundred, Jules, what you got? What was you about
Speaker 7: to say?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 5: I'm crying.
Speaker 7: So the Grimlins, it's a.
Speaker 5: You're just training back on the track.
Speaker 7: No, for real, though, I do think it's a fucked
Speaker 7: up Christmas movie. I think it's weird. It's got some
Speaker 7: occultism and shit in it.
Speaker 4: Came from.
Speaker 7: Right great, but I mean and Corey Fillman, he was
Speaker 7: so little in this movie. And the the guy, Oh yes,
Speaker 7: of course, we're best friends. I feel like I'm best
Speaker 7: friends with everybody that listens to my show. If you
Speaker 7: listen to my show, we would probably be best friends
Speaker 7: because it's either you love me or hate me, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. But yeah, I so just and
Speaker 7: I don't know how how much you can take his
Speaker 7: word for it, because it's, like I said, with this
Speaker 7: crotchless panties or whatever. He's just so hard for me
Speaker 7: to believe. But he said so weird stuff went on
Speaker 7: on the set of Grimlins, and obviously with the birds
Speaker 7: and the Tom Hanks thing.
Speaker 1: It's obviously with the Gremlins, right, Yeah, yeah, no Crisco
Speaker 1: references in the movie Gremlins.
Speaker 7: I bet the dad came up with like a Crisco applicator,
Speaker 7: because you know, he had the bathroom buddy and the
Speaker 7: Peltzer Peeler dispenser.
Speaker 4: Oh doesn't Felman have like a reference in the Goonies
Speaker 4: where he refers to Martin Sheen or something. Oh? Man,
Speaker 4: I wonder if they did that, like fucking with them.
Speaker 7: There is a reference. Actually, I wonder if I could
Speaker 7: google it.
Speaker 1: Hang on, Martin she reference ins in the Goonies circle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you ever think the time or anything like
Speaker 2: that has any kind of a type of cult significance anything.
Speaker 2: I don't know the whole Midnight thing. I always wonder
Speaker 2: if there's just where they just made that up, just
Speaker 2: threw that.
Speaker 7: In there, wishing well, look it's Martin Sheen and he
Speaker 7: was like, no, that's President Kennedy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he played Kennedy once.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just weird though, how they uh was that
Speaker 4: releast after there? What came first? Lucas or the or
Speaker 4: the Goonies?
Speaker 7: Uh, Grimlins came first and then Goonies.
Speaker 4: I want to say Lucas, but we can we can
Speaker 4: uh in that talk about about his.
Speaker 6: Lucas that movie where they put the icy hot in
Speaker 6: the dude's jockstrap he's running outside naked and stuff.
Speaker 1: Ye, I don't know if.
Speaker 7: Is it Corey Feldman in it?
Speaker 4: It's got Corey haymn it.
Speaker 7: Oh well, oh oh, I bet he did need some
Speaker 7: icy hot after all that.
Speaker 5: He was a kid that wanted to play football, so.
Speaker 4: He probably needed a dash dock strap and just loaded
Speaker 4: it down with it.
Speaker 7: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The only people that go to see Corey Feldman in
Speaker 7: concert with his Angels or whatever, they all bring posters
Speaker 7: of the Goonies.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Dan Soder and Big Jay Oakerson went
Speaker 4: with their whole like casting or their whole crew from
Speaker 4: The Bonfire back when they both did The Bonfire on
Speaker 4: Comedy Central. That's when I first I used to listen
Speaker 4: to that show sometimes because they're fun. They went and
Speaker 4: sawn and that's when I first like saw the whole
Speaker 4: Corey Feldman than they would like rip into him. That's
Speaker 4: why I'm laughing so hard.
Speaker 7: But they heard the ship.
Speaker 4: They all went to his concert, and we're all out
Speaker 4: there just like like singing along. It is just but
Speaker 4: they were just there because they were just like, you
Speaker 4: know this roll, but we're here for you because you know,
Speaker 4: someone has to cheer any moan just so they can
Speaker 4: get a better show. They were live streaming it too,
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, Well, I.
Speaker 7: Mean the only people who show up there are just like, oh,
Speaker 7: that's that kid from the Goonies. Like literally they're not there.
Speaker 7: He literally is so psychotic. If he can't get his
Speaker 7: moves down, he'll just break out of power wheels. He'll
Speaker 7: just get on a power wheels and just like write
Speaker 7: it to and fro across the stage a power wheels. Literally,
Speaker 7: I mean the guy the guy lost his mind. But
Speaker 7: it's like the chicken or the egg. Has he lost
Speaker 7: his mind because of bee whole stuff?
Speaker 2: Scott?
Speaker 7: Sure, you know what I'm saying. He had already lost
Speaker 7: his mind and then got be whole stuff done to him,
Speaker 7: and now he thinks he's Michael Jackson and he does
Speaker 7: this stuff. Maybe he thinks he's a kremlin, I know.
Speaker 2: Then you have the glove going on too.
Speaker 7: Yes, he's got the hat and the jacket and the
Speaker 7: crotchless panties and the glove and all the stuff. And
Speaker 7: then he he says stuff like Michael Jackson was not
Speaker 7: a child molester or a pedophile. We just used to
Speaker 7: go to Disneyland together and watch pornography. Totally normal stuff
Speaker 7: to do with, you know, a forty year old guy
Speaker 7: who has a Neverland ranch and drinks milk and cookies
Speaker 7: with kids for Christmas. That's totally normal behavior. Sleep in
Speaker 7: the bed with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, people can say all the day
Speaker 4: along like MJ was. I mean, look, the media was
Speaker 4: portraying him as this this freak, this this monster, so
Speaker 4: you gotta like think, you know, can we trust what
Speaker 4: they're telling us? But then at the same time, you know,
Speaker 4: look at this guy. I mean, I feel bad because
Speaker 4: it kind of you know, it was forced on him
Speaker 4: at a very young age. I don't know if y'all
Speaker 4: know the story with Bob if you know, you know,
Speaker 4: with the Jackson five and all that stuff, what their
Speaker 4: dad did to him basically pimped him out. And it's
Speaker 4: very well known politicians and actors and musicians. But I digress.
Speaker 4: And it's just sad, you know. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: you know, you got to hold him accountable because he
Speaker 4: was an adult, even though he thought he was a child.
Speaker 4: I legitimately think he thought he was a child. He
Speaker 4: was that damaged and broken.
Speaker 7: From like, yeah, he was in like a permanent disassociated.
Speaker 4: It'd have been k ultra just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: With the Neverlin ranch and stuff. I really do think.
Speaker 7: I mean, just just watch any South Park episode where
Speaker 7: they're making fun of him. I mean, it's just like
Speaker 7: totally clear to me that, uh, everyone knows, like he
Speaker 7: was almost insane a little bit, but he was Michael Jackson,
Speaker 7: so he was child. That's what That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gazy, bro like that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I like borderline insanity, cutted his nose off, and
Speaker 7: then got like a plastic one stabled on. There's just
Speaker 7: so much to unpack with that guy. But Corey Feldman
Speaker 7: did say like he used to take him to Disneyland
Speaker 7: and like let him buy whatever, and then would go
Speaker 7: back to his house and they watch pornography together and
Speaker 7: drink milk and cookies and have a sleepover in his bed.
Speaker 7: But he wasn't a molester. It's like, come on, man,
Speaker 7: like that's if I found out anybody did that with
Speaker 7: my kid.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he did, his head would be on a pike, sane,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: But here's an angle. So let's say that maybe this
Speaker 1: was Corey Feldman's image of cool was a guy who
Speaker 1: did that. And so a guy who never grows up,
Speaker 1: who you know, watches porn whenever he wants to and
Speaker 1: then has milk and cookies, And then maybe that's the
Speaker 1: guy he became for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4: Is that very person? That's why he still dressed mimics Herman.
Speaker 4: He dresses the way he dances in his music videos,
Speaker 4: like it's all Michael Jackson. Like you can say, I
Speaker 4: don't know, man, do you have a part of Michael uh,
Speaker 4: you know attached to him? Spiritually, I think, I think yes,
Speaker 4: But you know, does that that you know? Are they summony?
Speaker 4: Are they summony? Michael's ghosts?
Speaker 1: Did you see the video of the burn victim that
Speaker 1: was interviewed after Michael's Michael's death that sounds exactly exactly
Speaker 1: like him.
Speaker 4: His name was Dave Day. Yeah, yeah, and yeah, no,
Speaker 4: you're absolutely right. And I was going to say, if
Speaker 4: he's even dead, right, because you got to ask that
Speaker 4: question these people.
Speaker 7: I was going to say if mm hmmm, yeah. I
Speaker 7: think he made it, maybe made it like a weird
Speaker 7: Faustian bargain, because I don't know how long you can
Speaker 7: live as Michael Jackson. I don't think he was allowed
Speaker 7: to leave his house and shit like that. But I
Speaker 7: also know there was something weird about the doctor who
Speaker 7: gave him, like that last dose or whatever. Maybe he
Speaker 7: dosed him up a little too much on purpose.
Speaker 1: Well, the courtroom, the courtroom for his trial, that just
Speaker 1: sort of sealed the deal for me because I went
Speaker 1: back and watched some of those videos. The entire courtroom
Speaker 1: is filled with stuffed animals. They don't do that, and
Speaker 1: this is a murder trial. And then if you look
Speaker 1: at the seal behind his head. They don't have the
Speaker 1: right number of stars for the actual state of California,
Speaker 1: so they're just, yeah, the whole thing's fake.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's almost as as if there is this
Speaker 4: uh like shelf life to his persona and he had
Speaker 4: to die. There had to be that mass energy drain
Speaker 4: of the world, right, I mean, Bill, you have to
Speaker 4: say billions of people were affected by that, not I
Speaker 4: because I was never a fan of Michael Jackson. Same
Speaker 4: thing with the Beatles, guys. I it's just not good
Speaker 4: music to me. Sorry, fair enough, you know.
Speaker 1: I think what he did was he just figured, you know,
Speaker 1: I either do this or they're going to do it
Speaker 1: to me, so I might as well think it myself.
Speaker 1: And so the guy the doctor supposedly got convicted but
Speaker 1: never did a single day of time, like it was
Speaker 1: all commuted sentence of course.
Speaker 7: Well, and there's someone in the comments who just said
Speaker 7: autopsy doc was the same one from George Floyd.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so.
Speaker 2: That is wild because even George Floyd that that same
Speaker 2: person also lines up with the lady bird Lake a
Speaker 2: smiley face killer drowning. Why that's like three three cases
Speaker 2: now that that same persons cases shady motherfucker. That's a
Speaker 2: shady motherfucker.
Speaker 7: Yes, that's like the three strikes rule right after three.
Speaker 4: George Floyd and they take you out after you kill
Speaker 4: three people or they program you too. Is that you're
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I'm saying, like, I'll give you one suspicious death, maybe
Speaker 7: suspicious death, but you get to three and it's like, Nope,
Speaker 7: you're confirmed in.
Speaker 1: On this ship.
Speaker 4: That's his career, you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 7: How many bodies have to pile up before we're like okay, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: They're in on this. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, no, oh.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, random weird, weird? I guess fun fact with
Speaker 2: the movie Gremlins. I didn't know that that and Ghostbusters
Speaker 2: came out in the same night too, the same night.
Speaker 7: Yeah, why would Ghostbusters come out during? Did it come
Speaker 7: out for Christmas? What month did it come out? Because
Speaker 7: that's like a Halloween movie and a Christmas movie coming
Speaker 7: out and like the same night. That's weird.
Speaker 2: June eight eight, nineteen eighty four, and open the same
Speaker 2: day as Ghostbusters Ghosts versus Gremlins.
Speaker 7: Why would you put why would you release a Halloween
Speaker 7: movie in a Christmas movie in June? In the middle
Speaker 7: of the fucking summer when nobody wants to see that shit.
Speaker 7: That's not good marketing to me.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I guess.
Speaker 5: Running up in July, I'm thinking of cooler weather to come.
Speaker 7: But I guess so, I guess though, I just I
Speaker 7: don't know. I wouldn't release a Christmas movie or a
Speaker 7: Halloween movie in the middle.
Speaker 2: I don't know they could have been even marketing reasons
Speaker 2: for all that.
Speaker 1: Do you know what movie I want to break down
Speaker 1: when it comes to like symbolism My last action Hero
Speaker 1: with Arnold Schwarzenegger, remember seeing Did you guys ever see
Speaker 1: that one?
Speaker 2: I've seen?
Speaker 7: Amany birthday, Julia. That's so nice of you.
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Is it your birth birthday?
Speaker 7: My birthday is November thirtieth, So maybe they didn't see
Speaker 7: me before now and they're just saying it.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Good to see.
Speaker 7: But yeah, no, I just think it. I just wanted
Speaker 7: to do something fun for Christmas, though, and I thought
Speaker 7: this movie was especially like drenched in weirdness, you know,
Speaker 7: compared to what Christmas with the Cranks, there's not there's
Speaker 7: not a lot of like good Christmas movies to break down.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's Crampis Crampish.
Speaker 4: We could even I was gonna say he couldn't do
Speaker 4: it to YouTube, you can always do a watch party
Speaker 4: of Crampish.
Speaker 7: Frampis is a weird story for sure.
Speaker 4: The vocal behind it's even weirder.
Speaker 5: You know, I got a whole chapter about him in
Speaker 5: the book.
Speaker 4: Well, dude, it's the duality of Santa, right, it's the
Speaker 4: it's the dark side to Santa, his shadows.
Speaker 7: So wow, man, yeah, man, what about did you guys
Speaker 7: see I think it came out last year actually Jack
Speaker 7: Black and it was called Satan Clause.
Speaker 5: Did you see remember that?
Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, Jack Black Is.
Speaker 7: He's trash ash, he's turned. I mean I used to
Speaker 7: love watching school.
Speaker 4: Uh yep, shallo owl. Oh man, I mean there's a
Speaker 4: few movies that I really liked him. Man, But you know,
Speaker 4: he's just he's just a.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, Teresa said, Julia, didn't we do a
Speaker 7: Crampis episode a couple of years ago? I totally forgot
Speaker 7: about that shit. Thank you for reminding me. We definitely
Speaker 7: did do a Crampus episode. I think actually Teresa talked
Speaker 7: about it. I didn't because I looked up something else,
Speaker 7: But I think we did like weird traditions for Christmas
Speaker 7: or something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's me and Teresa and a couple other people. But yeah,
Speaker 7: So that Satan Clause movie is about like a dyslexic
Speaker 7: kid writing a letter to Santa and instead of putting Santa,
Speaker 7: he put Satan. And then Jack Black supposed to be
Speaker 7: the devil and he shows up and he like gives
Speaker 7: them some wishes or something like that. Why that's appropriate
Speaker 7: for kids.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, there's there's another movie that came
Speaker 4: out with the dude from Stranger Things, a guy that
Speaker 4: plays the cop. Oh yeah, he's a fucking communist faggot.
Speaker 4: I mean he's he's like and he's he's he's a bitch.
Speaker 4: But uh, he's a good actor, you know. But he
Speaker 4: he was Santa in in this one movie. I don't
Speaker 4: I think was it called Deck the Halls maybe or
Speaker 4: some dead he's killing everybody. It's just it's just it's
Speaker 4: the kid's movie, you know. No, But it's just like why,
Speaker 4: I don't know, bastardization of culture. I mean they've already
Speaker 4: bastardized it, you know, as much as they can a
Speaker 4: good scary Christmas movie. Jack Frost about Snowman and the
Speaker 4: serial Killer. It's very thet very similar to Chucky the
Speaker 4: serial Killer. Uh you know he's a snowman. Well, they're
Speaker 4: in their transporting him, yeah, and he gets uh you know,
Speaker 4: like they have a wreck and then he gets covered
Speaker 4: in all this like acid or something and melts into
Speaker 4: the snow and then reincarnates as the Snowman. And it
Speaker 4: is so good. I saw in the third fourth grade,
Speaker 4: scared these ship.
Speaker 2: Out of me.
Speaker 7: I totally forgot about that one. That one's on Hulu
Speaker 7: right now.
Speaker 5: Shouldn't have watched it.
Speaker 4: Who cares aught at a friend's house? Shouldn't have watched it?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So have you guys seen the crampst parades that they
Speaker 1: go on over in Austria.
Speaker 4: Wow? All that Adam Green had posted, uh that he
Speaker 4: was over there and he had.
Speaker 5: One in Atlanta too, Demons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're starting some more cities. There's one in Richmond, Virginia.
Speaker 1: There's one in Des Moines, Iowa. There's one of did
Speaker 1: you say it was in Georgia?
Speaker 4: Atlanta?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Atlanta. Yeah. So that'sprellos.
Speaker 7: Because he's like what he's supposed to be, like unchained
Speaker 7: right and he's like, let loose.
Speaker 4: Well on some cultures, you know, the kids, I think
Speaker 4: they enjoy it. You know, my daughter likes it when
Speaker 4: I like, like, I don't know, do scary faces with
Speaker 4: her and stuff. It's real weirdy, it's it's odd, but
Speaker 4: she thinks it's funny. So some kids are I think
Speaker 4: if you don't like I don't know. I think if
Speaker 4: you let him see too much horror, you know, then
Speaker 4: they'll start to But I mean some things, you know,
Speaker 4: just I think it's good. Maybe if they don't perceive
Speaker 4: some things as like monsters verifying.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I guess we should go
Speaker 7: around for Christmas and just say what our favorite Christmas
Speaker 7: movie is. Doc you Go first?
Speaker 5: Oh, National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
Speaker 7: Oh fuck you you stole mine.
Speaker 10: Leave the Neck for me Clark, Yeah, that is my
Speaker 10: absolute favorite Christmas movie.
Speaker 1: Dless you go, I don't know past come back to me.
Speaker 7: Okay, and mind you this. You can only watch one
Speaker 7: Christmas movie for the rest of your life forever. This
Speaker 7: is the one Christmas movie. So don't say something shitty
Speaker 7: like Christmas with the Cranks. Okay, really think about this.
Speaker 7: It could be Santa Claus with Tim Allen. Loved that
Speaker 7: when I was little, it could be literally home alone,
Speaker 7: whatever Christmas story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was Christmas story too. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say bad Santa. But it's a
Speaker 4: wonderful life. Oh okay, very very cliche. But every time
Speaker 4: I watch it and it's it's a little esoteric as
Speaker 4: well if you if you pay attention, especially when they're
Speaker 4: like talking as like in the Constellations as angels, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: actual depiction of what you know, like I don't know, uh,
Speaker 4: very interesting.
Speaker 7: But I love that answer. That's so classy of the Jewels.
Speaker 4: I was not expecting that. Pretty cliche, but I was
Speaker 4: gonna say bad Santa because I just when I think
Speaker 4: of Christmas, I think of that movie and just the
Speaker 4: relationship between him and the kid is one of the
Speaker 4: funniest things. Ever, how the kid is is just like
Speaker 4: what about Jesus and Joseph and Mary and the donkey
Speaker 4: and the talking walnut or something, And he's just like,
Speaker 4: what the fuck is wrong with you kids?
Speaker 5: So fucking funny. I love women's section scene.
Speaker 4: Is Granny's fry, Nick.
Speaker 2: You have to go now? Uh play say maybe a
Speaker 2: Christmas story?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I like that one too.
Speaker 4: That was.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm, yeah, gradually.
Speaker 5: The major award.
Speaker 7: Oh just said the Night Before. I haven't watched that yet.
Speaker 4: I love that one.
Speaker 7: It's got like uh Seth Rogan and the one guy's
Speaker 7: name from.
Speaker 2: Oh what is it?
Speaker 7: He's like a famous guy hang on the night before.
Speaker 5: I got out what mine is?
Speaker 2: So uh got to be.
Speaker 1: It's got to be my favorite Christmas A.
Speaker 4: Good one home alone.
Speaker 7: Yeah they h it has a solid soundtrack. I will,
Speaker 7: I will give you that it has. Oh yes, George
Speaker 7: Joseph Gordon Lovett, sorry that yes, the night great movie.
Speaker 4: Muppet Christmas Carol.
Speaker 2: I just watched it.
Speaker 4: Underrated. Yeah, it's so good, dude. The music in it,
Speaker 4: like everything about it is so good.
Speaker 7: I love the Muppets, my favorite Christmas Carol. My kids
Speaker 7: won't watch it's that.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like, damn man, it's it's a different time. Yeah, man,
Speaker 4: I know, it's weird. Muppets.
Speaker 7: Christmas Carol is my favorite Christmas Carol. They do have
Speaker 7: one with Jim Carrey, but it's and it's like animated
Speaker 7: and it's pretty good, but it's not like the Muppets.
Speaker 7: The Muppets is my favorite.
Speaker 1: The most bizarre Christmas movie. Unintentionally, it has got to
Speaker 1: be Polar Express.
Speaker 4: What I just Okay, first of all, just watched it
Speaker 4: two nights ago and it was just about to say, uh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I never did from this movie. But and because I had,
Speaker 4: uh just watched this thing on the similarities between Odin
Speaker 4: and Santa, and so it's I just I saw a
Speaker 4: lot of symbolism in the movie. I was like, wow, dude,
Speaker 4: this and then the soundtrack to that is awesome. I
Speaker 4: think it is very Christmasy and gives you holiday cheer,
Speaker 4: but it's a great movie. You're right, they have this thing.
Speaker 7: I just went with my sister literally yesterday, and I
Speaker 7: took baby Hankster with me. He obviously got overstimulated because
Speaker 7: he's two months old. But they put you on a
Speaker 7: train and they literally have decorated it like Polar Express,
Speaker 7: and they play the music and they do like all
Speaker 7: the hot chocolate, and they bring you hot chocolate, and
Speaker 7: they bring you snacks and stuff and that you get
Speaker 7: a bell at the end of your trip on the
Speaker 7: train or whatever. It takes you to the North Pole,
Speaker 7: and all the little kids were like, oh, this is cool,
Speaker 7: this is so fun, and all the adults that are
Speaker 7: our age, we're having way the fuck more fun because
Speaker 7: first off, we understand like the concept of what we're doing.
Speaker 7: Second off, we've watched Polar Express a million times and
Speaker 7: they even have like the conductor all aboud, and yeah,
Speaker 7: sure the kids have fun, but the parents were all
Speaker 7: having a fucking blast. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: this is I can't believe about the Polar Express. And
Speaker 7: I don't know, I just think it's weird because it's
Speaker 7: supposed to be for kids and they were having fun,
Speaker 7: But it was like all the like parents our age
Speaker 7: who have watched it like year after year after year,
Speaker 7: who were actually having the best time.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, hot Chocolate, that's got
Speaker 1: to be the biggest MK ultra movie of all time.
Speaker 7: Oh, I know, with Tom Hanks and everything. Kobe won't
Speaker 7: even let me play it in the house.
Speaker 1: Well fucking hard.
Speaker 4: Well I like it, and so.
Speaker 2: I never saw the movie.
Speaker 4: Shut up either really get those vibes from it. But
Speaker 4: I can see I can see. Uh, I can see
Speaker 4: what you mean.
Speaker 7: I bet if you watched it, you would pick out
Speaker 7: a bunch of stuff from it.
Speaker 1: Now you ruin your childhood. Let me pause the movie
Speaker 1: and tell you exactly what's going on as they're going
Speaker 1: through it, because that's it's rough.
Speaker 4: Express trafficking children on orphan train.
Speaker 7: Yeah, is it the orphan train thing?
Speaker 1: The whole fucking thing. It's all like if think about
Speaker 1: the motifs that you get from the Wizard of Oz
Speaker 1: and uh, you know Dorothy, No, not Dorothy, the one
Speaker 1: where she goes into the rabbit hole. What was that
Speaker 1: Alison Alice in Wonderland. It's the same type of movie
Speaker 1: and they're just packing in a bunch of stuff to
Speaker 1: make the subject more pliant along the way.
Speaker 7: That's yeah, I can totally yeah, yeah, I can totally
Speaker 7: get that vibe from that incubator. Baby's Galore, said someone
Speaker 7: in the chat.
Speaker 2: I have not seen that one.
Speaker 7: You should watch it just because I think you would,
Speaker 7: as someone who dissects stuff, you would like it. I
Speaker 7: think there's a lot of little stuff in there, just
Speaker 7: especially with Tom Hanks. He plays like four different characters,
Speaker 7: and he's Santa, you know what I'm saying. He plays
Speaker 7: like a homeless guy. He plays the conductor, he plays Santa. Yeah,
Speaker 7: he's the homeless guy too.
Speaker 1: Got a lot of disguises, huh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I feel a little differently now, why because of the
Speaker 4: whole it does that? No, because of Tom Tom Hanks,
Speaker 4: I'm not a I can't watch Toy Story anymore. Uh
Speaker 4: you know, you know that I know the guy's true
Speaker 4: nature and dude's a fucking sick of Yeah. No ship.
Speaker 7: But that's also why I brought up the Burbs with
Speaker 7: Corey Feldman, because he did that right after Grimlin's and
Speaker 7: they put that Grimlin cereal box in that movie, and
Speaker 7: it was all about like weird satanic serial killers and
Speaker 7: like just a bunch of weird stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well.
Speaker 1: We should, we should ruin your entire childhood. Let'st watch
Speaker 1: a long party Polar Express. I just hit the poet.
Speaker 4: That wasn't really my childhood per se. It was more
Speaker 4: of my little brother's childhood. I was a teenager. But
Speaker 4: would you all consider Harry Potter a Christmas movie?
Speaker 7: That's a that's the question of the season, because I
Speaker 7: watch it for Halloween. Oh well, yep, I watched one
Speaker 7: through seven, well eight.
Speaker 4: Before Christmas, Christmas or Christmas Halloween Christmas?
Speaker 5: You think both both?
Speaker 7: Because it starts off with this is Halloween, This is Halloween,
Speaker 7: and then by the end of it, you're like, oh,
Speaker 7: I can't wait for Christmas, so it could it could double.
Speaker 7: I mean, Grimlins can double.
Speaker 2: Die Hard.
Speaker 7: Christmas. How long?
Speaker 1: How long they've just been selling NonStop Nightmare before Christmas?
Speaker 2: Merch?
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 7: If I see a fat lady at Walmart with Jack
Speaker 7: Skellington leggings on, I just leave.
Speaker 4: I just leave.
Speaker 7: I'm so sick of it. I can't take one more
Speaker 7: Jack Skellington merch item in my life. I don't want
Speaker 7: to see it on people. I don't want it in
Speaker 7: my house, I don't want it any even anywhere. I'm
Speaker 7: sick of seeing it. I'm sick to death of seeing it.
Speaker 7: It's always a blue haired lady with long pit hair
Speaker 7: and in Jack Skellington's Stanley Cup and I just can not.
Speaker 7: I mean, they must make a million dollars off that movie.
Speaker 7: It's like, out of all the Tim Burton movies, I
Speaker 7: think I would like to see Corpse Bride a little
Speaker 7: bit more, or any of them, Edward Scissor Hands, Beetlejuice,
Speaker 7: But it's always Jack Skellington, right, It's always Jack Skellington.
Speaker 1: It's because it merches both holidays.
Speaker 7: Oh, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, Christmas.
Speaker 7: Edward scissor Hands is a Christmas movie, so debate me
Speaker 7: on that. It is he cuts up the ice at
Speaker 7: the end and the little snowflakes and all the shit
Speaker 7: in the Christmas tree you remember. So Edward Scissorhands, unpopular opinion,
Speaker 7: is also a Christmas movie for anybody out there wants
Speaker 7: a little darkness for Christmas.
Speaker 2: The Rings trilogy that come out around Christmas. A little
Speaker 2: of the Rings I.
Speaker 4: Think of some more, not as much as Die.
Speaker 2: Hard for Christmas.
Speaker 5: Of course, some planes, trains and automobiles Christmas.
Speaker 2: It's a good one reason I associate that with Christmas.
Speaker 7: Yeah, some people really like Love Actually for Christmas. I'm
Speaker 7: not a love actually kind of gal. Or what are
Speaker 7: some of those dopey ones. There's one with like.
Speaker 4: Oh the Family Stone.
Speaker 7: Oh the Family Stone.
Speaker 4: You liked that Family Stone? Yeah. I watch it with
Speaker 4: my mother in law and my wife.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, that's definitely a female pick.
Speaker 4: It's a good movie.
Speaker 7: Dude.
Speaker 4: The fucking mom gets breast cancer. It's set.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really sad.
Speaker 4: It's like God and uh and uh.
Speaker 2: The yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good movie. It's a good movie for
Speaker 4: family guys. Screwge great. I haven't seen that man and
Speaker 4: he watched that with my son. I think you might
Speaker 4: see now.
Speaker 2: That I thought had some cult undertones to it when
Speaker 2: I watched the I did too.
Speaker 7: I just watched it last night. It's on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 7: Oh mm hmm, yeah, it's free on Amazon Prime. Somebody
Speaker 7: should just hit me up. I know where all the
Speaker 7: Christmas movies are for free.
Speaker 4: A good movie to Rise of the Guardians with Santa
Speaker 4: and he's like all tatted up, and then you got
Speaker 4: the Easter Bunny. The you have the Tooth Fairy, Sandman
Speaker 4: and Jack Frost and they're fighting this guy named pitch
Speaker 4: Black and it's so it's very uh probably a lot
Speaker 4: of esoteric and themes in that movie as well. A
Speaker 4: great kids movie though, and it's it's a Christmas movie.
Speaker 4: I'd say it's a Christmas movie. But they basically guard
Speaker 4: uh like I don't know, they guard like the Holidays.
Speaker 4: I don't know. They had their own realms and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, they exist based on how much believe in them.
Speaker 7: Was it on Netflix?
Speaker 4: I don't think so? Okay, never mind if it's may
Speaker 4: have a long a while ago, but but it's not
Speaker 4: on Netflix anymore.
Speaker 7: Were they murderers?
Speaker 4: Wait? What? No?
Speaker 7: Okay, no, I'm thinking of something else. You look how
Speaker 7: twisted my mind is. I watched something. I watched something
Speaker 7: that sounds like.
Speaker 4: The tooth Fair.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and they show up and they kill the kids. Okay, yep,
Speaker 7: see this is a totally different thing.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to but uh no, I know how
Speaker 7: old is too old to still be believing in Santa.
Speaker 4: Hey, look, I've talked about my experience with Santa.
Speaker 5: It's not real.
Speaker 7: Doc, shut your mouth.
Speaker 2: Doc.
Speaker 7: Is Santa my bad?
Speaker 4: Or do we just perceive him as Santa? You know
Speaker 4: he is Santa?
Speaker 2: Sit happens.
Speaker 7: I found a bunch of presents in my mom's closet.
Speaker 7: That's how I knew.
Speaker 2: I can't remember was up, So yeah, it was because
Speaker 2: of that too. Honestly, I think it was because I
Speaker 2: sort of find shame.
Speaker 7: You found presence?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like what stuffs already here?
Speaker 7: Headless never believed in Santa? Look at his face.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I went along with it because I wanted the
Speaker 6: extra presence, went along with right, Headless if you believe
Speaker 6: in Santa, you know you'll you'll get some extra gifts.
Speaker 4: You just gotta have faith, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my parents were strict Christians. They didn't believe in
Speaker 1: telling kids about Santa.
Speaker 7: Really. Yeah, my parents were Pentecostals, and they was all
Speaker 7: up in Santa's bie hole. They was putting out milk
Speaker 7: and cookies and little reindeer snacks and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 7: A little reindeers.
Speaker 4: Now I eat and drink the milk for my kids.
Speaker 2: Sost those are classics.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Santa Claus Is coming to Town. I love
Speaker 7: that one.
Speaker 4: That's a good one.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh what what's what's another?
Speaker 7: Both of those are free on on Hulu. By the way.
Speaker 5: What about Christmas songs?
Speaker 7: I like to go classic, like so you should appreciate
Speaker 7: this doc but like that one. I think it's Ray
Speaker 7: Charles Spirit of Christmas from National Lampoons when he's up
Speaker 7: in the attic watching like the old Home movies. That's
Speaker 7: like my ultimate favorite Christmas song. That and like Carol
Speaker 7: of the Bells, m.
Speaker 2: Charlie Brown Christmas. That's a classic to Charlie Brown Christmas.
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good one, man. You have to say,
Speaker 4: I have to say.
Speaker 7: Your favorite, yeah, your favorite Christmas song and then sing
Speaker 7: it with the elf hat on.
Speaker 4: I can't. I have to have to take the hat
Speaker 4: off and do the jingle. I have a bell, I
Speaker 4: have a whole percussion. I having two drum sets over here.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: They put me on the spot.
Speaker 7: Oh, you can only listen to it for every Christmas
Speaker 7: for the rest of forever. And if it's last Christmas
Speaker 7: by Waam, that's okay, or if it's Mariah Carey, we're
Speaker 7: kicking you off the podcast.
Speaker 8: I won't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Christmas.
Speaker 2: Rules on this show, but that's one of them that
Speaker 2: we just can't deal with.
Speaker 4: I don't know, probably something that being Crosby saying, I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, from your favorite movie The Rape, the Rapel Rape,
Speaker 7: So maybe it's cold outside.
Speaker 3: Where are you guys?
Speaker 4: Happened?
Speaker 7: That is the rape song?
Speaker 1: Corey Feldman, do you think that's what happened?
Speaker 7: Listen to it? He listens to it every year. It's
Speaker 7: been putting the hip in row hip noll since nineteen
Speaker 7: forty two or whatever, whenever the fucking came out.
Speaker 2: Like maybe it's warm inside, right, Fuck, that's gross.
Speaker 4: But now I have to your back door Man, Backdoor Santa.
Speaker 4: No man, fuck, I have to go back and rewatch
Speaker 4: Gremlins now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody should rewatch it because it's it's definitely full
Speaker 7: of weird stuff. I plan on watching it and it's
Speaker 7: it's one of my faves for Christmas. But yeah, we
Speaker 7: can wrap it up whenever. That's really all I had
Speaker 7: for you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that was great. That was fun. Definitely.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I definitely a cult undertones in that movie for sure.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm, I think so too.
Speaker 4: And we learned about the Maguai. There's always some ancient
Speaker 4: folklore behind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe.
Speaker 7: By your kids Christmas presents from a one eyed blind
Speaker 7: Chinese man in an alleyway, yo.
Speaker 4: Reminds me a lot of the labooboo thing. If you
Speaker 4: think about it, the gremlin.
Speaker 7: What's a boo boo?
Speaker 4: The lit boo boo little things that all the all
Speaker 4: the rappers carry around. I don't know what is, Okay,
Speaker 4: never mind, you guys don't know what the la booboo is.
Speaker 4: They're the little they're a little like they're fucking demons.
Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're these little creatures that people carry
Speaker 4: around on like their belt and stuff. Look it up.
Speaker 4: It's real weird.
Speaker 7: To the end of us, like little spiritual totem things.
Speaker 4: That they Yeah, I think there's something else, especially with
Speaker 4: the name La Booboo. It comes from I did. I
Speaker 4: went on nephliin dep squad and we talked about it.
Speaker 7: M hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the ones I'm seeing they look very cartoony.
Speaker 2: They almost looked like animation type pikachus. Oh, that's what
Speaker 2: he's talking about.
Speaker 4: You're kind of like horns, you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, somebody said that the they look like ferbies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sadistic grin. Oh yeah, ferbies. That's another gremlin offshoot, right,
Speaker 4: you have a Ferbie in the bed room like three
Speaker 4: in the morning. It's just like I love you.
Speaker 7: That mine did that too. It would just go off randomly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gremlin, a little mogul.
Speaker 5: I read that.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, married little uncular gremlin. That's yeah.
Speaker 2: You think like the the gremlins were like almost like
Speaker 2: like reptilian, like for the conspiracy guy.
Speaker 1: Both they were, you know, they had the idea of
Speaker 1: being warm blooded and reptilian and at the same time.
Speaker 7: So yes, they shaped shape shifters. Yeah, everybody should go
Speaker 7: back and watch it, especially since it's free on Hulu
Speaker 7: right now, you have no excuse whatsoever.
Speaker 4: You know, someone saying it's a Celtic spirit. M hmm,
Speaker 4: this thing right here, I think that's what young Stitches
Speaker 4: is saying. I'm pretty sure you're right. But anyway, that's
Speaker 4: a whole y'all should look into that. It's pretty interesting
Speaker 4: if you have time, you know.
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, they don't look, they don't look. They look for.
Speaker 4: Real e very creepy. Yes, I'm not getting one. It
Speaker 4: ingreens son, Look No, I don't want a boo boo.
Speaker 4: I don't want one. Yeah I had we had done
Speaker 4: an episode on it Stitches. You can go watch. I
Speaker 4: don't know which one I had done. Is that Flow
Speaker 4: death Squad? But interesting topic. But yeah, guys, this was fun.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I had fun to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you all for jumping on.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Also, tomorrow we're gonna be uh at four point thirty
Speaker 2: We're going live with uh Gregg from a Cult of Personality.
Speaker 2: It's pretty pretty big occult podcast. It's been around for
Speaker 2: a long time. UH So if people want to check
Speaker 2: that out, we do have that going live tomorrow. I
Speaker 2: just wanted to make sure I plug that pretty uh, Nick,
Speaker 2: pretty impressive to get that guy on.
Speaker 4: So is our stro live tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, yeah somewhere. I totally forget the Vulgein's podcast.
Speaker 2: I think me and Jules are going live at two
Speaker 2: o'clock with him. I think he already has us up
Speaker 2: on YouTube already, so people want to check that out. Cool.
Speaker 2: And then at four thirty the Occult Rejects has Yeah,
Speaker 2: Greg from a cult of personality so interesting. Should be fun.
Speaker 2: Uh And thank you all everybody in the chat. That's
Speaker 2: what's up. There was a lot of people here bullshit
Speaker 2: and chopping it up. Julia, thank you very much. I
Speaker 2: really appreciate you bringing up the idea and getting this
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Speaker 2: your amazing stuff.
Speaker 7: Thanks.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: so let me just take a second. I'm not on
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Speaker 7: three seven. So thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Name of course, no, thank you, Julia. It was appreciate it,
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Speaker 1: This was fun.
Speaker 2: Of course, I had a place way.
Speaker 4: Me and Doc got a show coming soon he has
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Speaker 2: Yeah I know I saw that.
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Speaker 2: Good stuff, good stuff for sure. And Doc Brown, thank
Speaker 2: you so much man for jumping on and joining us today.
Speaker 5: It's so it was a pleasure, no, man, I appreciate
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Speaker 4: Man.
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