Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen?
Speaker 2: What? What's going to happen?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Occult Rejects.
Speaker 4: This episode we got a very very special guest, somebody
Speaker 4: I wanted to get on for a while, and I
Speaker 4: guess maybe I just never had the balls to ask him,
Speaker 4: and then I just don't know, went for it. So
Speaker 4: before we get to crow seven seven seven, let me
Speaker 4: introduce the other rejects we got joined in the show
Speaker 4: and we got back the loan herself.
Speaker 2: Judith. What is going on? Judith? How are you?
Speaker 3: Could catch me on Sundays during the brunch I do
Speaker 3: more of a meditative, meditative and mindfulness work, and I
Speaker 3: also do Buddy Check, which is geareds veterans, and you
Speaker 3: can catch me on YouTube as the Loon as well
Speaker 3: as on x I'm a little bit more free with
Speaker 3: my opinions as the Loon as well.
Speaker 2: Awesome, thank you for having me. Oh, of course, thank
Speaker 2: you for joining us. I appreciate you coming on the.
Speaker 4: Show and we got you know what, Maggie, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: leave you with for the last because your your your
Speaker 4: introws are amazing. So my man Ethan Indigo, what is
Speaker 4: going on?
Speaker 2: Sir? How are you.
Speaker 5: Salute I appreciate being here with everybody. Yeah, Magis drops
Speaker 5: some great introductions and poignant remarks, and as does everyone
Speaker 5: excited for this Crow seven seven. I've checked out a
Speaker 5: lot of your stuff over the years, Ethan, Indigo Smith,
Speaker 5: easy to find on all the social media, Taichi practitioner, meditator, writer,
Speaker 5: and yeah, a couple a couple of articles on a
Speaker 5: Colt research institute and a few books out there here
Speaker 5: in there. So appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Every rebody appreciate you coming on. I appreciate you adding
Speaker 4: to the website. I really much appreciate that. Again, that
Speaker 4: is a cultresearch dot org. Ethan's got plenty of stuff
Speaker 4: on there. Thank you very much, Ethan. And then to
Speaker 4: finally get to the guest, we do have Rose joining
Speaker 4: us with Crow seven seven seven. She will be helping
Speaker 4: put the stuff up on the screen and make it
Speaker 4: run a lot smoother. Rose, real quick, if you want
Speaker 4: to say hi, you can Hello.
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 7: I'm so excited here to be here and help.
Speaker 4: Of course, thank you, and I appreciate I see you
Speaker 4: in the chat with Off and so I really uh,
Speaker 4: I don't know that blew my mind when I realized
Speaker 4: who you were actually, so I appreciate it, and finally
Speaker 4: we got Crow seven seven seven.
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 4: So please, for the people who don't know who you are,
Speaker 4: which I highly suggest nobody knows who you are, let
Speaker 4: everybody know where they can find you.
Speaker 2: Please.
Speaker 8: All right, I'm just another guy. I run Crow Triple
Speaker 8: seven Radio dot com. We run everything off of private server,
Speaker 8: which is guaranteeing free speech. We do use social media,
Speaker 8: but not in the way most people do. It all
Speaker 8: points back to the website because I don't go in
Speaker 8: for censor ship and I don't go for people taking
Speaker 8: control of the work I've done like YouTube did with
Speaker 8: the Lunar Wave, informing me that they own and can
Speaker 8: use anything I ever uploaded, including for commercials. In other words,
Speaker 8: the first Lunar Wave could be in a Google commercial
Speaker 8: if they felt like it. So that's why I run
Speaker 8: off a private server.
Speaker 2: Now I didn't know that. That is some bullsy shit.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I've noticed with them, they'll they'll they'll give me a
Speaker 4: reason why they can't monetize an episode, but that they'll
Speaker 4: still throw commercials in.
Speaker 2: That who's getting paid for that? You ain't paying me
Speaker 2: for this? Episode.
Speaker 8: Messoship is like the definition of evil censorship limiting human
Speaker 8: thought and human creativity. It's one thing if people are
Speaker 8: being injured or threatened, but that is not the case,
Speaker 8: and that is not what this is about. This is
Speaker 8: wholesale mind control, and it's gotten so bad that they've
Speaker 8: trained folks to censor their own mouths. Instead of saying gun,
Speaker 8: which is a word we know and we use in
Speaker 8: this language, they say pew pew instead of saying dead
Speaker 8: or alive passed away, they say un alive, as if
Speaker 8: the AI can't possibly put together what word they've replaced.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I always thought that was funny when people were
Speaker 4: like using that. I was just like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: The stuff I say on my channel doesn't I don't know.
Speaker 4: But Crow, thank you very much, very much for coming on.
Speaker 4: I know you did want to talk about a lot
Speaker 4: of the lunar and the solar stuff. I mean, you've
Speaker 4: been doing a lot of work on the moon in
Speaker 4: the sun. I guess what I kind of wanted to
Speaker 4: ask you at first is what brought you even to
Speaker 4: starting with all that stuff? What was it that peach
Speaker 4: interest to start standing.
Speaker 2: At the shit well?
Speaker 8: Growing up, I always wanted a telescope, and I grew
Speaker 8: up in a house of teachers. You know, we didn't
Speaker 8: have a color TV till past the mid eighties, and
Speaker 8: so it just wasn't in the cards. Actually, when I
Speaker 8: was young, I did get a microscope, so I guess
Speaker 8: I went the other way, looking at really tiny things.
Speaker 8: But when I got out of the Marine Corps, just
Speaker 8: by I was wanting a telescope. But by chance, I
Speaker 8: I got a chance to get the scope, the fully
Speaker 8: robotic eight inch scope that actually accidentally filmed the first
Speaker 8: lunar wave, and I got it for a deal. But
Speaker 8: even at a deal, it put me in debt. I'd
Speaker 8: never been in debt like that, except for a car.
Speaker 8: It was over a couple thousand bucks and I was
Speaker 8: just out of the Marine Corps. I think I separated
Speaker 8: from the Marine Corps with a few hundred dollars in
Speaker 8: the bank. But you know, that's really what started it,
Speaker 8: and what tipped it into high gear was the accidental
Speaker 8: filming of the first lunar wave. I held the footage
Speaker 8: for a year. I filmed it at the Spring Equinox
Speaker 8: or Fall Equinox of twenty twelve, and I posted it.
Speaker 8: I think on October thirteenth, a year later, so just
Speaker 8: over a year. And the moment I put that online,
Speaker 8: everything changed. It was a big deal, to the point
Speaker 8: where I had to change email addresses, shut my phone off,
Speaker 8: get a new phone number. Just endless, endless controversy. At first,
Speaker 8: thirty days after posting the first twenty twelve lunar wave,
Speaker 8: the flat Earth movement kicked off in a serious way,
Speaker 8: and all of them were referencing the lunar wave. So
Speaker 8: it got big, and it got big quick. And you know,
Speaker 8: I filmed for I don't know, something like six years straight,
Speaker 8: almost every hour that I could, and much of that
Speaker 8: footage is available to members of Crow Triple seven Radio
Speaker 8: dot com and a film two hour film that Jason
Speaker 8: produced called Shoot the Moon. Here's the first lunar wave
Speaker 8: up now watch the camera pan.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 8: Oh, I already missed it. I'll tell you when it
Speaker 8: comes around. But the film that's free to everybody at
Speaker 8: Crow Triple seven Radio dot Com has ten awards in
Speaker 8: the world. The last two came from India.
Speaker 4: That's like the slowest refreshment of it.
Speaker 8: It goes down, I pan above the wave and the
Speaker 8: wave catches up to the camera. That has always been
Speaker 8: proof that this is a filmed event and then not mechanical.
Speaker 2: I don't know if people I can see that.
Speaker 4: I don't know if people can see that, but I
Speaker 4: could definitely see that going right up the moon.
Speaker 2: It just hit the top. That is wild.
Speaker 4: I was looking at some of your other stuff, I
Speaker 4: don't know, I didn't come across this one.
Speaker 2: This one is like so blatant.
Speaker 9: Did you just say that you won awards for this?
Speaker 8: This footage is in the two hour film with lots
Speaker 8: of footage I shot over those six years, so called UFOs,
Speaker 8: chemtrails orbs invisible craft, all kinds of stuff to include
Speaker 8: seven lunar waves is in that film and it's got
Speaker 8: ten Jason submitted it to the you know, the indie
Speaker 8: film circuit out in the world, and we didn't think
Speaker 8: it was going to go anywhere, but it did and
Speaker 8: it got ten of words. The last one came from Jaipur, India.
Speaker 10: Crazy.
Speaker 9: So what we were seeing there is on that sphere
Speaker 9: of the moon on a wave going up it. And
Speaker 9: then but then the next image was half ultra violet.
Speaker 9: Can you explain what that image was or were we
Speaker 9: not supposed to see that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 8: Rose, can you put up that? So I had a
Speaker 8: DSLR that was a canon with twenty five megapixels, and
Speaker 8: I sent it away so that it would be full spectrum.
Speaker 8: But let me qualify that we're not allowed to have
Speaker 8: full spectrum per se. We can get a little bit
Speaker 8: into R and a little bit into UV because of
Speaker 8: the laws that changed. I think it was the seventies
Speaker 8: for military applications. But what happened here is I took
Speaker 8: it sent it in for just not very much, two
Speaker 8: three hundred bucks. I think they pull the little cover
Speaker 8: off the top of the chip because all the chips
Speaker 8: collect in full spectrum and they put a different clear
Speaker 8: one on. So this is collecting in NEARR visual and
Speaker 8: near UV. So I took this image and what you're
Speaker 8: looking at is the blown out side is the lit
Speaker 8: side of the moon. You can see with your eyes.
Speaker 8: The other side is normally blacked out and you can't
Speaker 8: see it. But with the full spectrum, it gives you
Speaker 8: a perfect view of what's normally invisible.
Speaker 9: Wow, Okay, that's crazy. Can you describe to me? Is
Speaker 9: this just a not a normal camera? What are you
Speaker 9: what are you using to get to catch this again?
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a normal camera. It's just a cannon Canon
Speaker 8: D S l R. But you send it. I think
Speaker 8: Spencer's is the camera shop, and who knows if they
Speaker 8: made it through COVID. It broke just about it. But
Speaker 8: all they do is they pull the little filter off
Speaker 8: the top of the optical chip and they put a
Speaker 8: clear one on. Instead of filtering out the I, R
Speaker 8: and UV and leaving just visual, it allows it all in.
Speaker 10: And that's illegal to do. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 8: What I was trying to point out is we it's
Speaker 8: very difficult to get good I R and good UV
Speaker 8: where you're deep.
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, okay, that makes sense. Wow, that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 9: And so then can you give us a little more
Speaker 9: of what you think that that is representing?
Speaker 10: Sorry, Like like.
Speaker 9: The ultraviolet part where normally would be black. Why can't
Speaker 9: Why is it presenting itself to us that way?
Speaker 8: Let me go at it this way. If you grab
Speaker 8: a search engine and you say show me the visual spectrum,
Speaker 8: you'll get this big bar that goes I, R, U,
Speaker 8: V X ray. Yeah, of course, But in the center
Speaker 8: there's a little tiny sliver that's visual spectrum right where
Speaker 8: the color is. That's what we see with our eyes.
Speaker 8: We're getting here blind. We see something like point three
Speaker 8: of the spectrum, literally almost blind.
Speaker 10: Definitely.
Speaker 8: What's happened here is we've gained a little more of
Speaker 8: the frequencies we can pick up. And just to describe
Speaker 8: it like a layman, it's things that are really dim
Speaker 8: become brighter because it's more sensitive.
Speaker 10: Nice.
Speaker 8: And as we do this, whenever you see anything that
Speaker 8: I created and it looks pink, you'll know I was
Speaker 8: using that canon I just described.
Speaker 10: That makes sense. Okay, awesome. Nice.
Speaker 5: So you've caught this lunar wave on film a few times.
Speaker 5: What do you hypothesize is going on?
Speaker 8: I filmed it five times. Many other people have filmed it.
Speaker 8: It's been filmed once in front of Saturn, twice in
Speaker 8: front of Jupiter. When this happened, I don't remember how
Speaker 8: it became called the lunar wave. Maybe it just happened,
Speaker 8: I don't know, but I thought it was specific to
Speaker 8: the moon, and I thought maybe it had something to
Speaker 8: do with equinoxes. Neither one of those things is true.
Speaker 8: It's been filmed all over the year, and my best guess,
Speaker 8: because I can't tell you certainly what it is, is
Speaker 8: maybe it should be called a firmament wave. But that's
Speaker 8: just a guess.
Speaker 4: One thing I did want to ask, and so I
Speaker 4: play sounding such an ignorant question. But I don't know
Speaker 4: anything about this stuff. Do you think it's possible that,
Speaker 4: Like I'm still saying, like it's something weird, like because
Speaker 4: there's no stars in the background, I can't see if
Speaker 4: that whole frame is doing it or just the moon's
Speaker 4: doing it, you know what I'm saying, Like there's nothing
Speaker 4: else in the background the sea past the black to
Speaker 4: see if something else has a has a thing go
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 8: Well, I suspect that anywhere in the ecliptic you can
Speaker 8: probably film this if there's something bright enough behind it
Speaker 8: that allows you to see it. In terms of does
Speaker 8: it go past the edge, I assume it does. For
Speaker 8: a long time, I assumed it didn't. For a long time,
Speaker 8: I assumed it was to the moon, that it was
Speaker 8: to do with the moon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 8: We need to know a lot more. Some people Every
Speaker 8: now and then, you know, I get an email, Oh
Speaker 8: I figured out the lunar wave. I just got one
Speaker 8: of those a week ago, someone using the Book of Enoch.
Speaker 8: But the problem is is that many people who magically
Speaker 8: figure it out have never observed the skyclock, and never
Speaker 8: used telescopes, and have no idea about what the luminaries
Speaker 8: are about. And I think anyone who figures this out
Speaker 8: probably needs a little bit of information all the way
Speaker 8: across the board.
Speaker 3: I do have a quick question, have you tried to
Speaker 3: see if these ways coincide with like solar flares or
Speaker 3: anything like that?
Speaker 8: I think almost every line of reasoning I can possibly
Speaker 8: consider has been tried by somebody. And yes, actually I'll
Speaker 8: have to get Rose in. Was that part of what
Speaker 8: Luke did? Rose?
Speaker 6: Sorry about that. I didn't realize that it's staring my
Speaker 6: whole screen.
Speaker 7: Okay, so when we had Luke on episode six hundred
Speaker 7: and fifty, he discussed something that he's calling divine emission theory.
Speaker 7: And so with atomic theory, which is the mainstream.
Speaker 6: They're applying different.
Speaker 7: Rules to what they're calling the quantum and the macro,
Speaker 7: which doesn't make sense. What everyone's looking for is a
Speaker 7: unified theory where you can apply the same rules to everything,
Speaker 7: the micro and the macro, and that's what Luke is done.
Speaker 7: But we don't know if this is just chatchypt mathemagic
Speaker 7: with confirmation bias because I'm not smart enough to know.
Speaker 7: I haven't all the physics, but I have a list
Speaker 7: of about one hundred books I could read to catch
Speaker 7: up to Luke and then have an informed opinion. But
Speaker 7: giving him the benefit of the doubt that all of
Speaker 7: the math is lining up, he is showing that on
Speaker 7: the smallest scale, matter is created because of torsion, and
Speaker 7: what he's calling a scale or not is the idea
Speaker 7: that there is the spinning of the smallest objects that
Speaker 7: could possibly exist. I'm probably doing a really bad job
Speaker 7: explaining this, but if you can imagine this rotation, this
Speaker 7: torsional rotation that's then gathering energy to the point that
Speaker 7: then it can release it. That's how then matter starts
Speaker 7: to be made. When you think about matter being folded light,
Speaker 7: it goes so you hear people say we are lighting light,
Speaker 7: matter is light. Then if you take it up to
Speaker 7: the macro and we're talking about the sun. If you're
Speaker 7: thinking about a toroid or a dielectric hyperbola Lloyd that's
Speaker 7: contracting and expanding and contracting like a respiratory system. One
Speaker 7: could argue that everything in existence that has consciousness is breathing,
Speaker 7: so like a leaf, it has photosynthesis, or I might
Speaker 7: be using the wrong word for it, for the respiratory
Speaker 7: system of plants.
Speaker 6: But chlorophylla we have lungs.
Speaker 7: And then the sun and the moon maybe they are
Speaker 7: conscious luminaries that are also breathing. So the sun and
Speaker 7: I was putting, I'll put up an image. I had
Speaker 7: to come back to this tab to unmute myself. So
Speaker 7: let me go over here. Now you can see this
Speaker 7: is one of Crowe's images of the sun, and he's
Speaker 7: picking up on what looks like to me. You could
Speaker 7: interpret that as a pulse, a pulsing, and so in
Speaker 7: Luke's opinion with divine emission theory, as he described i'
Speaker 7: did in episode six fifty, he would say that the
Speaker 7: lunar wave is going across the whole sky and it
Speaker 7: could be described as a pressure wave, that everything is
Speaker 7: emitting pressure, and that emission of pressure is a precursor
Speaker 7: to electromagnetism.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, nice.
Speaker 8: So there you go. Now you know why she's here.
Speaker 8: She has the memory I traded for the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 9: Had a boy, had a boy. I'd like to add
Speaker 9: to something to that. Actually, why it's so fascinating to me,
Speaker 9: is everything you're talking about with the matter being created
Speaker 9: by toroidal energies and that torsion that you're talking about.
Speaker 9: So in body science as an ancient or just Chinese
Speaker 9: kung fu in your taichi science, when you're learning these things,
Speaker 9: the top half of your body in the bottom of
Speaker 9: half of your body are like two tetrahedrons pointing at
Speaker 9: each other. And what you're doing with the forms themselves
Speaker 9: interacting with the breathing patterns is you're making a toroidal
Speaker 9: field with the body body because both the pyramid at
Speaker 9: the bottom of the top are spinning in opposite directions,
Speaker 9: which then is uniting at the dantean creating that and
Speaker 9: then interacting with the breath technique in the body you're
Speaker 9: actually doing. It's such it's so fascinatingly similar. You're creating something,
Speaker 9: and what you're doing is you're getting back into the
Speaker 9: wu state of that first beginning before things happen to
Speaker 9: be the yin and the young. So that's a kind
Speaker 9: of an interesting and then him calling it the divine
Speaker 9: emission theory closely resembles that same kind of Taoist science
Speaker 9: that they're using with that kind of stuff so fascinating.
Speaker 8: He's a smart, smart guy, and I love that he's
Speaker 8: going at it with ideas of breath and ill exhale.
Speaker 8: That's that's where all agree all day long, even if
Speaker 8: I don't think he's correct, all agree all day long
Speaker 8: because he's going at it at such a sensible level.
Speaker 8: You just got to support him.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a great level. So would you or him
Speaker 10: say that?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 9: I mean, are these these planets or the moon and
Speaker 9: these things that are doing this, they're breathing in a
Speaker 9: way that makes them conscious beings or entities in and
Speaker 9: of themselves or what.
Speaker 8: There's nothing from my point of view, this is my
Speaker 8: point of view, there's not a thing that you can
Speaker 8: interact with that we couldn't call alive.
Speaker 10: Nice.
Speaker 8: Yeah, doesn't exist. And when you look at the problem
Speaker 8: is how we've been brought up here is you can
Speaker 8: tell someone did you know that all truth resides in nature?
Speaker 8: And they might think about it and say, hey, that's
Speaker 8: an interesting idea, but nature ends, you know, Or when
Speaker 8: I look up, I'm still not looking at nature, but
Speaker 8: you are. That is still part of the creation or
Speaker 8: whatever you'd like to call it. And if you include
Speaker 8: the spiritual thinking that science omits. You won't hear about orbit,
Speaker 8: you'll hear about spiritual realms for each of the so
Speaker 8: called luminaries or planets. In many ways, what modern science
Speaker 8: has done two things. Well, it's been helpful on a
Speaker 8: lot of levels. Don't get me wrong. We got a
Speaker 8: lot of stuff out of it. But at the same
Speaker 8: time we've become very hyper materialist, which isn't a healthy thing.
Speaker 8: And the other things. It's made us two thirds blind
Speaker 8: because if we look at the old natural sciences, we
Speaker 8: recognize that anything can be broken down into body, spirit,
Speaker 8: and soul. Right, well, science only recognizes the body. That's
Speaker 8: what I call two thirds blind. And that is a
Speaker 8: bit of a general statement I'm making here, But you
Speaker 8: see what I'm pointing at. If you're not going to
Speaker 8: allow the spiritual context of what it means to be
Speaker 8: a human being, will I mean, come on, how many
Speaker 8: parts of my body do I clip off before I
Speaker 8: fit your bill here? We are spiritual beings. It's just
Speaker 8: a fact.
Speaker 9: Yeah, No, for sure, Broca Spinosa. The idealist philosopher Woul
Speaker 9: one hundred percent agree with you with his idea that
Speaker 9: God and nature are you know, you know, very interacting,
Speaker 9: being very similar substances.
Speaker 8: So yeah, when you see science do it all the time,
Speaker 8: when they want to make that submarine that goes faster
Speaker 8: than they can, and they work at it, and they
Speaker 8: work at it. Then one of the guys says, hey, man,
Speaker 8: what's the fastest fish? Some guy tells them is let's
Speaker 8: go out and study that fish. Let's look at the
Speaker 8: shape and oh wow, it's covered with scale. You know,
Speaker 8: they start to take the truths of nature back into
Speaker 8: the laboratory instead of trying to engineer their way through it.
Speaker 8: This has already been done.
Speaker 2: Like, say, anybody else have any other questions?
Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, Oh hey, let me bring that
Speaker 4: back up again. One thing I did get so one
Speaker 4: thing I did want to ask too. Has there been
Speaker 4: things of this? Obviously it wouldn't be your work. Have
Speaker 4: you ever seen anything like this? Probably to twenty twelve.
Speaker 8: Right now, I consider myself very very privileged. I spent
Speaker 8: six years with a telescope on the moon and the
Speaker 8: daytime sky around chemtrails, trying to convince people it wasn't normal.
Speaker 8: Then I took a break and I began to save
Speaker 8: because in my mind I was thinking the Sun's a
Speaker 8: big deal, and it's going to be a big deal
Speaker 8: as we do this era shift that we're doing. So
Speaker 8: I saved for years and years and I got a
Speaker 8: very large hydrogen alpha telescope that sees, you know, in
Speaker 8: that wavelength hydrogen alpha. I'm sorry I lost the question.
Speaker 8: What was it?
Speaker 2: You asked it? All right?
Speaker 4: If there was any any like, did anybody notice it?
Speaker 4: Notice this prior to.
Speaker 8: Two thousand oh yeah, So the scope that I got,
Speaker 8: only three of that size have been sold to private people.
Speaker 8: But the first thing when you're asking me, if you
Speaker 8: go to a place like astrobin online, you can see
Speaker 8: what all the amateurs are doing. Because a lot of
Speaker 8: people want to say this is CGI. Before you start
Speaker 8: accusing people in NASA of CGI, go to astro and
Speaker 8: look at what thousands of amateurs have done. It's a
Speaker 8: good benchmark. But I'm privileged because fifteen twenty years ago,
Speaker 8: there was no prayer that I could get images like
Speaker 8: this or a view like this. You can go back
Speaker 8: to twenty fifteen when I accidentally discovered the so called
Speaker 8: second son and look at the quality of the solar
Speaker 8: scope I'm using. It's not even in the same country
Speaker 8: as the one I have now. So she's rolling through
Speaker 8: all these images shot in the hydrogen ALFA. That's a
Speaker 8: sun spot really close. That's a looping prominence in the
Speaker 8: hydrogen alpha wavelength. That represents over three hours of filming,
Speaker 8: and the quantity of data collected when I approach four
Speaker 8: hours can sometimes be a terabyte.
Speaker 4: Would you assume that's got to be some sort of
Speaker 4: magnetism that's doing that right there?
Speaker 8: You can see by the shape there. I like to
Speaker 8: point out that when you play with a magnet and
Speaker 8: the sandbox, you get these electromagnetic shapes. It is electromagnetic
Speaker 8: in my view, and it's also conscious in my view,
Speaker 8: and it also plays a major role. Like when people
Speaker 8: ask me what do you think it is? I can't
Speaker 8: answer that as much as i'd like to. But the
Speaker 8: way that I view it is very close to the
Speaker 8: way Eric Dollard laid it down. But he's much smarter
Speaker 8: than I will ever be in this lifetime. And it's
Speaker 8: like a converter of some sort that's drawing its energy
Speaker 8: from somewhere else. Eric Dollard calls it counter space. The
Speaker 8: way I view it is like when you take a
Speaker 8: prism and that white light hits the prism, it breaks
Speaker 8: out into seven colors. Right now, this is the idea.
Speaker 8: In the old days they used to call all the luminaries.
Speaker 8: They picked the ones we could see. There were seven
Speaker 8: of them, right, So the sun is lensing all these
Speaker 8: energies down to us in the same way a prism
Speaker 8: breaks out all those seven and colors, right. So, in
Speaker 8: my view, it's taking energy, converting it and it's lensing
Speaker 8: in all the other energetic influences, providing everything we need
Speaker 8: for light and life and plants and everything.
Speaker 9: So is this so then I think I can dare
Speaker 9: to say, then this is way different the way you're
Speaker 9: presenting it. Then the mainstream science is presenting it obviously,
Speaker 9: and we're trying to help show the world through your
Speaker 9: work that there is something different, there's something more to
Speaker 9: what's going on, and we need to wake up to that. Like,
Speaker 9: how can you tell me why these two things are?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 9: What is that pulsation showing us that we should like
Speaker 9: waken up to that we're not being expressed?
Speaker 2: Do you hear it?
Speaker 10: See there?
Speaker 8: Sorry, I was meeted out. Let me answer that in
Speaker 8: a very generalized way that people can think about. NASA
Speaker 8: certainly has images that are in the hydrogen alpha wavelength,
Speaker 8: but they've got all these other wavelengths. A lot of
Speaker 8: them look like they're CGI, like X ray or other
Speaker 8: things that we don't really have access to. If you
Speaker 8: go to a place like astrobin, you can see what's
Speaker 8: what in other people doing even better than I am.
Speaker 8: But when you look at what we want to pay
Speaker 8: attention to. To me, it comes down to the same
Speaker 8: old question that isn't just about the skyclock. It's about
Speaker 8: every map you've seen. It's about the history we've been handed.
Speaker 8: It's about the laws that we've been handed. They're all bogus,
Speaker 8: they're all skewed, they're all designed to control you in
Speaker 8: some way, shape or form. So the real question is
Speaker 8: how do we get at the truth? And the only
Speaker 8: way that I can think of, as you throw out
Speaker 8: all the crap that's been jammed in your head and
Speaker 8: you start over, maybe at some point authority comes to
Speaker 8: its senses and starts to help play the game of
Speaker 8: what's actually true. But until then, what else do we do.
Speaker 8: We've been handed so much bunk that when you say
Speaker 8: NASA to the average person they roll their eyes. At
Speaker 8: this point, it's just been overwhelming the amount of nonsense
Speaker 8: that is in our school textbooks. My point of view
Speaker 8: is that is not ninety three million miles away. That's
Speaker 8: a mind work you want me to accept. You're going
Speaker 8: to screw up my time clock while you're describing what
Speaker 8: the sun is because I had to wait eight minutes
Speaker 8: for the light that's going into my camera. Is that
Speaker 8: common sense? I waited eight minutes to get this picture
Speaker 8: to collect that light. That's ridiculous. The moon is over
Speaker 8: a quarter of a million miles away, and I can
Speaker 8: see Tycho Crater that's roughly forty miles across according to them. Please,
Speaker 8: with my naked eye, I can see some thing that's
Speaker 8: over a quarter of a million miles. It's not It
Speaker 8: lacks common sense, if nothing else, and we could go
Speaker 8: any which way. I think it's a lot closer, and
Speaker 8: I think the moon and the Sun are probably very
Speaker 8: similar in size. The story we're told there as well,
Speaker 8: the moon is four hundred times smaller, but just lucky ess,
Speaker 8: the Sun is four hundred times more distant than the moon.
Speaker 8: That's why they fit together so well. If you asked
Speaker 8: AI to give you the odds on that, it would
Speaker 8: be astronomical Yeah, that serious. That that's not Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's fascinating. So then how do you then start
Speaker 9: from scratch? I mean, that's that's the I think the question.
Speaker 9: All of us are always asking and talking to our
Speaker 9: audiences and doing the things, which is then I think,
Speaker 9: why we veer towards the Western esoteric traditions or some
Speaker 9: kind of embodied practice and things like that. What do
Speaker 9: you for this kind of work to re get people
Speaker 9: back from scratch and rebuild the nervous system with new information,
Speaker 9: Because that's kind of what it takes, is a complete
Speaker 9: reworking of a system, don't you think.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I years ago when I started to recognize the problem,
Speaker 8: it was because I grew up my father was a
Speaker 8: PhD and a university professor and his colleagues, and later
Speaker 8: in life I began to learn those are the hardest
Speaker 8: people to get to consider anything that's not in a textbook.
Speaker 8: They're so invested from all those hours and years and
Speaker 8: bills to get educated. What I said is, if you're
Speaker 8: serious about this, you have to throw out everything, and
Speaker 8: I mean everything, and it is the hardest thing to do.
Speaker 8: When you try to do it, you'll recognize that you're
Speaker 8: not doing it, it's just difficult. But when you finally
Speaker 8: get serious and you do it down to the point
Speaker 8: where you are no longer accepting that one plus one
Speaker 8: is two, I mean everything. And then if you do that,
Speaker 8: you'll recognize, well, wait a minute, one in one is
Speaker 8: also presented to me as eleven quite often, and I
Speaker 8: never realized that before. When you start to recognize that
Speaker 8: all truth resides in nature, whether we recognize it or
Speaker 8: we don't, you cannot invent truth. You can only recognize it.
Speaker 8: And that's around us. We're surrounded by truth. So the
Speaker 8: simple act of saying I'm tired of lies and falsehoods,
Speaker 8: I want to know truth, and all these minds tuning
Speaker 8: into that, surrounded by the source of truth, I imagine
Speaker 8: we can make headway right now. Maybe there's fewer of
Speaker 8: us doing it, but mind precedes everything, and the way
Speaker 8: we think shapes what's about to happen, which is why
Speaker 8: media takes so much time to warp our minds and
Speaker 8: make us afraid and get us to believe in lies.
Speaker 8: And that is exactly why they're dumping Epstein files. They're
Speaker 8: playing truth or consequences. You all just got shown the truth,
Speaker 8: and if you don't do anything about it, and nobody
Speaker 8: goes to jail and nothing is done. Guess what you're
Speaker 8: going to play the consequences And that's exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 8: And it's called revelation of method put forward by James
Speaker 8: Shelby Downer and my good friend Michael Hoffman. And if
Speaker 8: you're not subbed to Michael Hoffman, you're missing the boat.
Speaker 8: This last thing he just put. As a matter of fact, Rose,
Speaker 8: can you put a link in the chat please to
Speaker 8: Michael Hoffman's latest True Consequences And we're going to have
Speaker 8: him on in March. And this is a man who
Speaker 8: co authored King Kill thirty three and writes at a
Speaker 8: level that will be absent from our world when his
Speaker 8: generation is gone. I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 8: We have the tools we need to build a better bench,
Speaker 8: we just got to pick them up.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, that's really yeah, Can Kill thirty three. I
Speaker 9: do believe everyone should go out there and take a
Speaker 9: look at that, because that is brilliant work.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One thing I did want to ask you.
Speaker 4: I guess we kind of like pet it on a little,
Speaker 4: but I did want to ask, like, what's your thoughts,
Speaker 4: Like I guess maybe going by what we're handed, you
Speaker 4: believe the truth about like what we're told about the planets,
Speaker 4: Like you already said, you don't think they're that far away?
Speaker 4: Do you think these things are really like?
Speaker 2: And it doesn't make a difference to me? Do you
Speaker 2: think there are.
Speaker 4: Real planets actually? Do you think maybe the moon's like
Speaker 4: a machine or something you know, or is put there
Speaker 4: like or do you like? What's your idea with what's
Speaker 4: out there to begin with?
Speaker 8: I can guess like everyone else, I do have years
Speaker 8: of the search, but possibly the Moon is maybe better
Speaker 8: described as plasma. I don't know. But you see the
Speaker 8: thing about all those planets, I certainly don't accept that
Speaker 8: it's rock and dirt, and I certainly don't accept that
Speaker 8: we can just jump out of a spaceship and walk
Speaker 8: around on it. But all those other places, those luminaries,
Speaker 8: there's a spiritual side to everything. And if we go
Speaker 8: back to the old hidden occulted information, they wouldn't talk
Speaker 8: about orbits. They would say things like what NASA calls
Speaker 8: the orbit of the Moon is from Earth to the Moon.
Speaker 8: What they would say is that is the spiritual lowest
Speaker 8: spiritual hierarchy of angels, and from the Moon to Venus
Speaker 8: is archangels, and from Venus to Mercury is a thing
Speaker 8: called the archive other spiritual beings a little higher up
Speaker 8: the spiritual food chain. When you get to the Sun,
Speaker 8: that would be the powers of the Sun. What a
Speaker 8: word to describe the sun powers. And if you keep
Speaker 8: going out to Mars, that's the mites, like mighty mouse,
Speaker 8: the mites of Mars, and everybody knows what Mars represents, action, war, anger,
Speaker 8: all these things. And then if you go out to Jupiter,
Speaker 8: it would be the dominions, and then off beyond that,
Speaker 8: all the way out to Saturn, those would be the
Speaker 8: thrones beyond that cherubm, Seraphim, and the starfields. These are
Speaker 8: the old spiritual definitions, not calling them orbits. Well, have
Speaker 8: you ever heard what I just said? And if not,
Speaker 8: how is it that that can be? And if I
Speaker 8: have a spiritual side to my life, and there's churches
Speaker 8: and synagogues and everything all over this world proving that
Speaker 8: everywhere that I can see around here has a spiritual side,
Speaker 8: how is it that we've never thought about that? Wow,
Speaker 8: maybe we're here because we're tuned to here. Maybe it's
Speaker 8: not even possible to leave beyond the firmament, because that's
Speaker 8: a higher spiritual realm.
Speaker 10: And I will interact.
Speaker 9: And just so everybody knows in the audience what he
Speaker 9: was talking about with the thrones and powers dominions, that's
Speaker 9: the Renaissance magicians in them. Beforehand, we're taught of John
Speaker 9: d and this stems from actually Cornelius Agrippa, and go
Speaker 9: read the Three Books on a col philosophy. That's what
Speaker 9: they're talking about with the Great chain of being and
Speaker 9: it's hierarchy of ascending towards God.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I think it was the Rosa Crucians, the
Speaker 8: very old ones who had kept it alive up to
Speaker 8: at least the late eighteen hundreds. But you will see
Speaker 8: that the words that they chose, I think, I want
Speaker 8: to say around the seventeen hundred to the words I
Speaker 8: just use, were assigned to that to do it, to
Speaker 8: serve a spiritual person purpose.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a grip.
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you go into biblical scripture, you can find
Speaker 8: the word thrones.
Speaker 9: And yeah, and in grip Cornelis Agrippa was in his Trithemaeus.
Speaker 10: They were like church. They were Christians in that timeframe.
Speaker 9: Also, magicians who were, you know, going through the esoteric
Speaker 9: magical working and you can go find that in Agrippa's
Speaker 9: three Books of Acult Philosophy.
Speaker 10: Everyone should get it. Eric Produce translated is phenomenal.
Speaker 8: A lot of people that in early Christianity there were
Speaker 8: mind sciences, Like in the West, we see all these
Speaker 8: places that do meditation and we make fun of it
Speaker 8: and stuff that used to be part of Christianity. That's
Speaker 8: what the valve silence is about. You've heard about the
Speaker 8: Monk and his cell, you know these they were practicing
Speaker 8: the mind sciences way way back in Christianity. But all
Speaker 8: the words that I described as spiritual realms, each one
Speaker 8: one of them can be looked up in scripture. It
Speaker 8: it appears, and that plays into why they were picked chosen.
Speaker 8: And when you'd consider why was it chosen, well, it's simple.
Speaker 8: They didn't want you to think it was a dirt clod.
Speaker 8: They wanted you to consider the spiritual possibility.
Speaker 6: Crow.
Speaker 7: Didn't you address those hierarchies based on a Steiner book,
Speaker 7: The Zodiac and Spiritual.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, that's one place. That is one place.
Speaker 8: It's the Steiner book that has hierarchy in the title.
Speaker 8: There are many other places, as Brandon just pointed out,
Speaker 8: that go back, but as far as I can tell,
Speaker 8: the original route is supposed to be Rosicrucian.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And the tough part about the term rosicruci is
Speaker 9: that it's one of those corrupted and then you know, revamped.
Speaker 9: And there's so many small little LARPing Rosicrucian Disney character
Speaker 9: groups out there that you know. So it's such a
Speaker 9: fascinating the rose of Christian thing, which is then why
Speaker 9: I like, we'll just hone in on if people really
Speaker 9: want to go find that Agrippa did such a great work,
Speaker 9: and that's from the fifteen hundreds about fifteen sixty three.
Speaker 9: He was doing that work at the same time as
Speaker 9: being persecuted from the church, and then he ended up
Speaker 9: having to rewrite basically that he has a whole book
Speaker 9: apologizing that Dana Trell helped I believe as Dana Trell
Speaker 9: helped retranslate, which is quite quite a bit.
Speaker 8: Well, what was the name, Diane, I see that approgate
Speaker 8: or no, yeah, so it was in that vein. But
Speaker 8: let me ask a question here, do you think the
Speaker 8: Catholic Church is more likely to have built those magnificent cathedrals,
Speaker 8: or someone who thought like a Grippa.
Speaker 10: Oh, somebody who thought like Agrippa. For sure, there it is,
Speaker 10: and yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8: That and what you're looking at there is technology. We
Speaker 8: can't replicate why because it's not technology in the way
Speaker 8: we think about it. It is facilitating the truths of nature.
Speaker 8: It's not inventing anything per se. It's recognizing what nature
Speaker 8: does and give a way to come to us or
Speaker 8: to be appreciated by us.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I know, I completely agree, because
Speaker 9: it's like a lot of the stems from especially the
Speaker 9: you know, the music, the harmony of the spheres, the
Speaker 9: planetary spheres, stemming from Pythagoras, you know, and him creating
Speaker 9: music and understanding harmony and beauty, which then we can
Speaker 9: see in our everyday modern period of how trash music
Speaker 9: is and why they're trying to invert everything we see
Speaker 9: here and taste even you know, it's all it's all
Speaker 9: toxic and trash, trying to bring us down into this mundane,
Speaker 9: barren planet.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, well said. And your mind proceeds all, never
Speaker 8: forget it. Your mind proceeds every experience, and what your
Speaker 8: mind is busy doing is busy forming the next step
Speaker 8: in the staircase you're ascending. And when you get two
Speaker 8: people thinking about it, that's gets built a lot quicker.
Speaker 8: And when you get a million people thinking about it,
Speaker 8: five stars are made at once. And this is the
Speaker 8: game we played because we have not been taught about
Speaker 8: the other two thirds, spirit and soul. We've been taught
Speaker 8: about body, We've been taught about hyper materialism. We've been
Speaker 8: taught how to get along in a system where we
Speaker 8: can be good workers, but nothing about the system itself.
Speaker 8: And that's where we are now. We are at the
Speaker 8: turning point. That's all going to end, all these low
Speaker 8: vibrational systems that we have existed in our whole lives.
Speaker 8: Those are busy dissolving into whatever comes next. But the
Speaker 8: thing is, we help shape what's next. But if you
Speaker 8: listen to the news and your TV, it will convince
Speaker 8: you in ways you don't even recognize, to go the
Speaker 8: wrong way, basically, think the wrong thoughts, to have fear,
Speaker 8: to engage in low vibrational activities. What's that old saying
Speaker 8: Every act is a vote for the kind of world
Speaker 8: you want to live in, And that is true of
Speaker 8: every thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, since I moved, I haven't gotten cable
Speaker 4: and I've been here for about a year and a half. Literally,
Speaker 4: if I use anything, it'll be like YouTube on my TV.
Speaker 4: And honestly, I guarantee you if I had it cable,
Speaker 4: my show would even reflect that and be completely different
Speaker 4: than it was in the list you. I totally agree
Speaker 4: that that shit that ship is fucking brain run. Yeah,
Speaker 4: one thing I did want to add to just just
Speaker 4: to throw this in real quick for people like you know,
Speaker 4: interested in the occult or hermeticabala.
Speaker 2: A lot of the names.
Speaker 4: I'm sure Judith probably even noticed it, maybe even thought
Speaker 4: of Kabbala too when he mentioned like the thrones and
Speaker 4: the Cherubim and the Seraphim and uh even uh oh God,
Speaker 4: the orphan him. A lot of those like things of
Speaker 4: angels and stuff even is attributed to uh, you know,
Speaker 4: the spheres on the Tree of life, and those will
Speaker 4: also have plants in the Harmticabala, we'll also have planets
Speaker 4: associated with them, so you'll even see there that the
Speaker 4: planet will even be associated kind of with that that uh,
Speaker 4: that angel as well in that sense. So that was
Speaker 4: very interesting how you brought it up in that way.
Speaker 2: And I've seen it kind of redone in another practice.
Speaker 8: So it's a bit mystifying that we look up and
Speaker 8: we've been taught that those are planets. It's basically a
Speaker 8: rock or gas in an orbit somewhere. But we can
Speaker 8: see the energy, particularly with stars, and we don't consider
Speaker 8: that's energy.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 8: You can see, it's a color, it's a it's a brightness,
Speaker 8: it's all these things that's energy. And we need to
Speaker 8: start thinking more in this direction. And years ago I
Speaker 8: took a picture I think it's Arcturist Rose. I know
Speaker 8: you probably don't have it, but if you do have
Speaker 8: the Arcturist clip, you could put that up. And I
Speaker 8: took it out of focus. Yeah, I'm sorry, yes, And
Speaker 8: I took it out of focus. And the reason you
Speaker 8: take it out of focus is because you can see
Speaker 8: the cimatic pattern of the energy and the colors associated.
Speaker 8: If she finds it, there will be a hole in
Speaker 8: the middle of the star when I defocus. The reason
Speaker 8: is because I'm using a Schmidt Castcrein telescope that has
Speaker 8: a rear and front reflecting lens. A different kind of telescope,
Speaker 8: that whole wouldn't be there. But the point is most
Speaker 8: people didn't pay attention. But now all kinds of people
Speaker 8: are doing it. Unfortunately they're not always getting it right
Speaker 8: because they show a defocused star and say, see, NASA
Speaker 8: has been lying to you. This is what a star
Speaker 8: looks like. Truly, with a powerful telescope, it is pretty
Speaker 8: much a point of light that is pulsating and colorful,
Speaker 8: changing colors, some of them a little less so. But
Speaker 8: when you defocus or overfocus, than all these simatic patterns
Speaker 8: like it's underwater emerge and you can see. But anyhow,
Speaker 8: I don't think she planned to have that clip, but
Speaker 8: who knows.
Speaker 6: Which I have it ready, it's up there.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 8: Antario is the heart of the scorpion. Sorry, so what
Speaker 8: you're seeing here is I do it both ways. I'll
Speaker 8: show it to you defocused. This is defocused, showing the
Speaker 8: simatic paths. As that hole in the center gets smaller,
Speaker 8: I'm focusing and I'll focus it down to a.
Speaker 2: Point iris a pupil.
Speaker 8: So when it gets down to a point, i'll tell
Speaker 8: you it getting closer closer, closer, closer. So this is
Speaker 8: actually what a star and focus looks through through an
Speaker 8: eight inch telescope. Okay, that's the truth. But look, that's energy.
Speaker 2: Is wild, you know.
Speaker 4: So when you bring it closer, there's actually a black
Speaker 4: thing in front of it.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, Well that the telescope has a reflecting mirror
Speaker 8: this type of scope in the front and the back,
Speaker 8: so when I defocus, it creates that hole in the image.
Speaker 8: If I had a different kind of scope, that hole
Speaker 8: wouldn't be there.
Speaker 4: The only reason I'm bugging out is because I talked
Speaker 4: about having experience like whenever I whatever, these experiences crossing
Speaker 4: the abyss.
Speaker 2: Maybe people want to argue that.
Speaker 4: Whatever to me, whatever, I will have a dot like
Speaker 4: you know, I'll have my eyes closed and I'll be meditating.
Speaker 4: It will look like something very much like that all
Speaker 4: the way out in the distance, and as it gets
Speaker 4: closer and starts to appear, it turns into an eclipse.
Speaker 4: So that just blew my mind. Yeah, so that just
Speaker 4: blew my mind. How Yeah, I just kind of saw
Speaker 4: it backwards right there.
Speaker 8: So this is interesting still that she just had up
Speaker 8: because that's a still. What was that little blast of energy?
Speaker 8: This is when I first got my telephoto lens, and
Speaker 8: I wanted to see how powerful it was, So I
Speaker 8: took an image of a bird a couple hundred feet away.
Speaker 8: That's great, but this is it is in the heart
Speaker 8: of the scorpion.
Speaker 5: So I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: Job there that's a still so that little energy. See,
Speaker 8: if I would have moved the camera, the whole thing
Speaker 8: would be blurry. It looks like I did move it
Speaker 8: a little, but there's a lot of work that can
Speaker 8: be done. I don't think I've seen anyone park a
Speaker 8: decent sized scope on a star for four or five
Speaker 8: hours at a time. Anyone who does that is going
Speaker 8: to walk away with amazing things if they put time
Speaker 8: into it.
Speaker 6: Cro I think Ethan wanted to jump in I saw.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: No, I apologize for trying to interrupt it be an
Speaker 5: interruptive What is that tail looking like? Swirl off? The
Speaker 5: last image? Is that just because the there was movement.
Speaker 8: Well that's the funny thing. If you look at the
Speaker 8: main bulge, it looks like I did move a little,
Speaker 8: but that little streak is further than it appears I
Speaker 8: move the camera, So that would be a little energy
Speaker 8: fissure or something interesting.
Speaker 5: I was going to ask to you mentioned the firmament,
Speaker 5: and you you hypothesized that perhaps the wave might be
Speaker 5: the firmer moment. Maybe could you explain on that further.
Speaker 5: Is it maybe the edge of this energy field that
Speaker 5: is maybe the fir moment?
Speaker 8: Well, I mean you bring up the question what is
Speaker 8: the firm moment for that idea? What is the shape
Speaker 8: of the continent I'm standing on. Well, we can all
Speaker 8: sit here and guess. It's one of the things we've
Speaker 8: got to refigure out. The first time we went space,
Speaker 8: we should have known exactly what everything looks like from
Speaker 8: high Well, we didn't go there, so maybe a high
Speaker 8: altitude plane. But the firmament is something right, And the
Speaker 8: word the original word seems to translate to something firm
Speaker 8: right if you look it up rocky or whatever the
Speaker 8: Hebrew is. So I don't know. People say crystal, people
Speaker 8: say energy, people say a lot of things. But I
Speaker 8: know that a wave has to travel through a medium.
Speaker 8: So that's how I'm thinking. Unfortunately, I don't know certainly
Speaker 8: what the medium is. And by the way, it's a
Speaker 8: total guess and saying what could the wave be going through?
Speaker 8: And that's my best guess.
Speaker 7: I can show a clip I have of the difference
Speaker 7: between the lunar wave and jetwash from it cool plane.
Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of people say to this day it's jetwashing.
Speaker 8: They just look very different. Plus you could see planes.
Speaker 7: I think that there might be I don't know how
Speaker 7: to remove the audio the way I'm sharing it, so
Speaker 7: I apologize if it if you have to wait to respond.
Speaker 4: The waves go by and you pick what I'll call
Speaker 4: Oh I commute it actually nice.
Speaker 8: So there's the first waves, and there's going to be another.
Speaker 2: It is crazy.
Speaker 8: Real waves come in Paris for some reason.
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 9: It's almost like the waves in and out. It's of
Speaker 9: the ocean on a beach front. How it just kind
Speaker 9: of moves itself forward and backward.
Speaker 8: Well it displaces Pick one of those creators and watch it.
Speaker 8: The waves places where you're looking at twice, like a
Speaker 8: straw going through drinking glass. See that's weird.
Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, I did a clip on that where
Speaker 4: I zoomed in on it.
Speaker 8: Okay, this is a different wave coming from the top.
Speaker 8: There's the first, there's the second. Whoa, and there's jetwash.
Speaker 10: Oh that's way different. I mean that can't even be
Speaker 10: seen as anywhere.
Speaker 8: New People still argue it along all.
Speaker 10: People argue a lot of things.
Speaker 9: I want to touch on the firmanent idea that you had,
Speaker 9: you slightly brought it up, and then Ethan kind of
Speaker 9: re brought it up with this idea of when you
Speaker 9: were talking about all the different planes of experience and
Speaker 9: that great chain of being and that firmament being between
Speaker 9: the Earth and the moon.
Speaker 10: Or whatever it is. I like the idea.
Speaker 9: I think maybe this has been an idea in secret
Speaker 9: societies and magical societies for a long time. Is that
Speaker 9: to get past that into the higher spheres, you have
Speaker 9: to do the work and be able to basically transcend
Speaker 9: certain you know, or hit a different frequency. Consciousness is
Speaker 9: like the initial thing and everything is stemming from that.
Speaker 9: It only makes sense that then to travel amongst the stars,
Speaker 9: you would have to be in a different state of consciousness,
Speaker 9: and to do so you have to be able to
Speaker 9: fine tune your nervous system brain connection, to be able
Speaker 9: to use your brain has to do so, because that's
Speaker 9: like the magic word of all things is breath.
Speaker 10: And so it's such a.
Speaker 9: Fascinating thing to think about, something I thought about for
Speaker 9: a long time, and I love that you brought it
Speaker 9: up because of that idea. To be able to interact
Speaker 9: with the higher levels all the way.
Speaker 8: To God, elegant, right, we're not doing anything to you.
Speaker 8: You were low vibration, so you went, we're low vibration. Yeah,
Speaker 8: it has nothing to do with us. You decided to
Speaker 8: sit there and watch the news for three life.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that's I think, you know, there's something to
Speaker 9: that with the whole hero's journey finally accepting the call
Speaker 9: to adventure, because if you think about it, if you're
Speaker 9: the one who trapped yourself in matter to be able
Speaker 9: to have to learn the game, obviously it would only
Speaker 9: makes sense that you're the only one who can, as
Speaker 9: they say, drag yourself out of the cave and into
Speaker 9: the light.
Speaker 8: There it is, and it's so elegant because basically, you
Speaker 8: do what you do and it puts you where you do.
Speaker 8: It's not someone else. But unfortunately, some very clever dark
Speaker 8: side beings have figured out how to get you to
Speaker 8: believe in look at and participate bait with the wrong
Speaker 8: set of tools. If you want the vibration to go up.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: And then it goes back to the idea of revelation
Speaker 9: of the method being. There is still karma involved in
Speaker 9: all things that we do, and so those dark sorcerers
Speaker 9: they think by revealing what they're doing in sign symbols, movies, TVs.
Speaker 9: Everything that's going on, that they're somehow maybe like clearing
Speaker 9: themselves of some kind of fucking karma that's that they're doing.
Speaker 8: I think they're I think they're more slaved out than
Speaker 8: we are.
Speaker 10: I agree with that.
Speaker 8: I get that's out to dark dark stuff, and I
Speaker 8: think that dark dark stuff me misleads them and takes advantage,
Speaker 8: just like they try to do to us. The point
Speaker 8: is is that we've come to the threshold. We're doing
Speaker 8: a new era here. It's criminally sad where I don't
Speaker 8: try to think about it too much, the number of
Speaker 8: people who lost the game in twenty twenty and beyond.
Speaker 8: But like I agree, if you're going to put yourself
Speaker 8: in a low vibrational state, you'll probably be living where
Speaker 8: low vibration lives. So maybe it's a do over. I
Speaker 8: don't know. But they did a lot of damage. It's
Speaker 8: just sneaky that they got you to do the damage
Speaker 8: to yourself. But they stepped a little further that time,
Speaker 8: didn't they. The coercion is palpable. And if you want
Speaker 8: to say that we didn't violate universal karma because you
Speaker 8: did it to yourself, and then you coerced people with
Speaker 8: their jobs. I think you're treading on thin thing. And
Speaker 8: if you want to say, what are you talking about?
Speaker 8: We put it in that movie and I said, where
Speaker 8: right there? And I'm aware right there? Oh there, that
Speaker 8: was your big notification that I was supposed to Well,
Speaker 8: your subconscious sawt you know, these are flimsy, flimsy little things,
Speaker 8: but it doesn't matter. We're we've got the divine spark
Speaker 8: of life, and we have free will, and we're now
Speaker 8: coming to the point where the batteries getting charged, and
Speaker 8: there are going to be a lot of people who
Speaker 8: aren't fallen for the same old generational bs. That's just
Speaker 8: a fact, and they're getting scared. And in that when
Speaker 8: you see things like this data dump, you've got to wonder,
Speaker 8: are they really gonna throw the truth out like that
Speaker 8: and just hope we don't do something about it, or
Speaker 8: do they have some big terrible thing coming right behind
Speaker 8: it to drag our minds off that and have to
Speaker 8: contend with something else. I don't know the answer, But
Speaker 8: the time is to focus, The time is to quit
Speaker 8: biting the fish hook. Those days need to go away.
Speaker 2: What is your just real quick. I mean I questioned
Speaker 2: these files too.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming that you're just not believing them as at
Speaker 4: phase value correct.
Speaker 2: And of course it.
Speaker 8: Doesn't matter if they're true or not. They've shown people
Speaker 8: with power and fame abusing the most week of the
Speaker 8: human beings. They've shown it, they've admitted it. If any
Speaker 8: one of you did that, you'd already be behind bars.
Speaker 2: That's one crazy thing that I do think.
Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't go through it too much, but
Speaker 4: what I did see, I was just like, how do
Speaker 4: like we see this and nobody's getting arrested and nobody's.
Speaker 8: Gonna Yeah, I'm not, I'm not participating in the revelation
Speaker 8: of method.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like something you're right with this?
Speaker 8: What happens when you see something like that that's so shocking,
Speaker 8: and then you see it worrow, and then you see
Speaker 8: it the next day, and then you see it the
Speaker 8: next week, the next month. The shock that you first
Speaker 8: felt is long gone. And that is part of the
Speaker 8: reroblem method.
Speaker 10: So it's thirty pornograph.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thirty years.
Speaker 8: In the future. People are conducting themselves like that because
Speaker 8: the Overton window moved to the right, and yeah, normal,
Speaker 8: that's part of what we're looking at. If somebody doesn't
Speaker 8: pay the piper, then the consequences will be paid, and
Speaker 8: we pay those consequences.
Speaker 2: I would even say, I've said this before.
Speaker 4: I've said it about the atomic bomb, and I even
Speaker 4: said it about Charlie Kirk. I think all that ship
Speaker 4: was done on TV to fucking like traumatize.
Speaker 2: Really, I think the atomic bombs showed it to people to.
Speaker 8: Kirk in a movie.
Speaker 9: It was years before, right, right, Snake Eyes, right, one
Speaker 9: of my favorite movies of all time. And then all
Speaker 9: this happens and you're like, what, oh, yeah, I've seen
Speaker 9: that before.
Speaker 10: It's so and they.
Speaker 8: Put Erica Kirk on a zip line going past the
Speaker 8: class that was the event. You know, it's laughable, and
Speaker 8: we sit here. This is part of the problem and
Speaker 8: why you should follow Michael Hoffman. All the truthers are
Speaker 8: making the echo chamber, which helps the revelation of methodal stream,
Speaker 8: and we point and we show nobody does anything of consequence, yeah,
Speaker 8: and thereby we normalize it.
Speaker 4: That's why I don't cover really up to date topics anymore,
Speaker 4: because I'm like, even if I'm like showing you something,
Speaker 4: what the fuck's the difference? I'd rather like present a
Speaker 4: topic that might educate you on something else that matters.
Speaker 2: I can't even involve it anymore. I don't want to.
Speaker 8: Any year and have those kinds of ideas be less
Speaker 8: insulting to me than they are this day.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 10: No, it's true, and there's something fascinating to think about.
Speaker 9: Back to what you were talking about, of the people
Speaker 9: who are doing the revelation of the method, I'd like
Speaker 9: to go back to the symbol of Plato's cave.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 9: Most of us don't think about the people who are
Speaker 9: behind the prisoners on the wall, who are walking around,
Speaker 9: and their images and the things they do are what
Speaker 9: is reflected on the shadows. And those are the people
Speaker 9: in control, in power, the billionaire technolgar bloodline families who
Speaker 9: are we don't think about them. And it comes even
Speaker 9: down to the more normy individual who just goes along
Speaker 9: to get along and doesn't, you know, want to wake
Speaker 9: up from the thing. They're the more droning individuals who
Speaker 9: are like every time you walk past them to get
Speaker 9: out of the cave, kicking and screaming, I might add,
Speaker 9: we are, but we forget about them, and they it's
Speaker 9: terrible almost you know, it's a.
Speaker 8: Heck of a thing. But here we are, we're at
Speaker 8: the threshold. I can guarantee you one thing for sure.
Speaker 8: Change here. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Oh, I just wanted to mention I think you kind
Speaker 7: of glossed over the Eric Dollard ideas that your telescope
Speaker 7: work seems to confirm.
Speaker 6: Can I give a feeling about that? Okay? So when
Speaker 6: I look at Crow's telescope work.
Speaker 7: To me, it really looks like an egg, like an ovum.
Speaker 6: Like we're looking like looking at a shell.
Speaker 7: And although it is in the hydrogen alpha wavelength, so
Speaker 7: anyone can argue that in different wa other wavelengths we
Speaker 7: might see different things that would imply different things.
Speaker 6: In this wavelength, it does look.
Speaker 7: Like the sun is hollow, and so that wouldn't be
Speaker 7: what the mainstream would say. And if you just look
Speaker 7: at these pictures of sun spots, like this is my
Speaker 7: favorite one here.
Speaker 6: I don't know why I think I have to end
Speaker 6: the video before I can put this up, But.
Speaker 7: If you look at the sun spot to me, for
Speaker 7: me personally, just intuitively, when I look at this, it's
Speaker 7: proof positive that a sun spot is like a hole
Speaker 7: looking into some kind of tunnel. And Crow has another
Speaker 7: clip that I don't have uploaded here where in video
Speaker 7: when he was using his cell phone to look at
Speaker 7: his computer screen, it looked like there was these little explosions,
Speaker 7: these little sparks, which also reminded me of what people
Speaker 7: call the zinc spark of life, when fertilization happens and
Speaker 7: the single cell zygoat comes into existence, which, if you
Speaker 7: think about it, is a scientific thing that can be
Speaker 7: observed but not explained. How does that single celled zygoat
Speaker 7: come into existence? Well, a lot of people say, well,
Speaker 7: that's evidence to our quote unquote godly origin. So that
Speaker 7: brings me back to the Sun and Eric Dollard. He's
Speaker 7: not even spiritual. He doesn't want to talk about religion.
Speaker 7: He doesn't care. He's just all about data. He doesn't
Speaker 7: even care about Crow's telescope work because it's just not
Speaker 7: his deal. He's just the electromagnetic engineer genius who says
Speaker 7: the Sun is hollow and acts like a converter that
Speaker 7: is muting or converting energy, this life giving energy.
Speaker 6: From some other place.
Speaker 7: So when you ask him what's the other place, that's
Speaker 7: where he'll shut down and he's like, I don't know,
Speaker 7: but a lot of people might say that it's converting
Speaker 7: it from heaven or the other metaphysical realm which a
Speaker 7: science can't measure, so they don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 7: So what I like about these unified field theories is
Speaker 7: that it's factoring in the metaphysical and spiritual realm that
Speaker 7: you guys are talking about today. And then we have
Speaker 7: people like Eric Dollard and Crowe's telescope work, which can
Speaker 7: explain science when we incorporate that which has been missing
Speaker 7: for so long.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Dahllard used the word counter space when
Speaker 8: we pressed him.
Speaker 4: Do you think that those somebody mentioned it in chat
Speaker 4: and I was actually wondering the same thing. Do you
Speaker 4: think that black black stuff might be like magnetism?
Speaker 2: Well, almost like black hole.
Speaker 8: Frame will tell you is it's a bit cooler right there,
Speaker 8: and there's a lot of electromagnetic energy, and they can
Speaker 8: show the measurements that do it. But to me, I mean,
Speaker 8: we're looking at wavelengths and exactly what Rose said is true.
Speaker 8: When you're looking at the sun. The amazing thing is
Speaker 8: is if you slightly change the wavelength like this view
Speaker 8: you see here was shot in what's called the G
Speaker 8: band it's like just barely a couple clicks off what
Speaker 8: that image was shot with. But look how different the
Speaker 8: view is if you took a still out of the
Speaker 8: other one. And by the way, just so you know,
Speaker 8: all these images are real except for the color. I
Speaker 8: put the color in. I film in black and white
Speaker 8: because that's how you get the best detail. But the
Speaker 8: point I'm making with the sun, to change the wavelength
Speaker 8: even slightly really can change the view of what you're doing.
Speaker 8: So in the wavelength I am filming in, it looks
Speaker 8: like the absence of illuminating energy. But I agree with Rose.
Speaker 8: I think we're looking at an outer shell. And the
Speaker 8: mainstream will tell you that you're wrong and that what's
Speaker 8: actually going on is there's a nuclear furnace down in there,
Speaker 8: and that's how they get to tell their story that
Speaker 8: the Sun's going to die someday and we're all going
Speaker 8: to you know, it's going to swell up till it
Speaker 8: swallows every planet and blow up and humans will die,
Speaker 8: and you know the stories.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8: Well, first of all, you know, I don't know anyone
Speaker 8: that's a billion years old to you.
Speaker 9: No, no, what did they say, give me one great miracle?
Speaker 9: And I'll give you the rest.
Speaker 5: I wonder what your observations were relative to three I
Speaker 5: Alis and its interaction with the energy of the Sun
Speaker 5: that I recently saw. There was some correspondence with the
Speaker 5: Sun as it went by.
Speaker 8: There with all all the comets that go near it.
Speaker 8: Do I think some of them break up? But the
Speaker 8: comets are another thing that I think are nonsensically described.
Speaker 8: But I didn't pay a lot of attention to that
Speaker 8: with the way that I work, like, I spent all
Speaker 8: those years on the Moon, and I started to realize
Speaker 8: with the Sun and I again accidentally filmed what I
Speaker 8: call the so called Second Son, and I just intuitively
Speaker 8: knew the Sun's going to be a big deal in
Speaker 8: the era change, so I shifted all my energy over there.
Speaker 8: And so it takes so much effort and time and
Speaker 8: know how in Tedium to get this kind of footage.
Speaker 8: You'll find that I become very one track. And you
Speaker 8: can ask grows and people say, you got all these tools,
Speaker 8: why didn't you look at the comic. It's like, you
Speaker 8: really don't have any idea for me to film The
Speaker 8: four hours that took to get this, there was two
Speaker 8: hours of setup. There was three or four on the backside,
Speaker 8: getting the data transferred, and then all the production time.
Speaker 8: I mean, you're talking a lot of hours just for
Speaker 8: a clip like this, and I just kind of keep focused,
Speaker 8: so it's not much of an excuse, but this is
Speaker 8: what I'm looking at right now. If something else really
Speaker 8: kicks me between the eyes, I may, you know, pay attention.
Speaker 8: But for the most part, I'm trying to just remain
Speaker 8: focused on this and still have a little bit of
Speaker 8: life to live with my wife Nice.
Speaker 10: Can you explain to us the second sun theory?
Speaker 8: Do you have the footage? Rows?
Speaker 7: Yes, I will get it ready in just a moment,
Speaker 7: like give me twenty seconds.
Speaker 2: A thank you so much so.
Speaker 8: Years ago, I was filming with the cannon camera full
Speaker 8: spec that I was telling you about at night with
Speaker 8: the moon, and I would get bored after five hours
Speaker 8: looking at the moon and filming nothing, so I'd start
Speaker 8: scanning the sky and I kept finding this patch of
Speaker 8: light and I did it time and time again. I
Speaker 8: could never figure out what is that And it was
Speaker 8: a big patch of light, much bigger than the moon.
Speaker 8: I thought, is that the full moon? Because I would
Speaker 8: most of the time it was a full or near
Speaker 8: full moon. Is that reflecting off the firmament? It was
Speaker 8: about a third of the sky away from the moon,
Speaker 8: and I found it time and again, well cut to
Speaker 8: the chase. I got this nowhere near as good solar
Speaker 8: scope for the first time in twenty fourteen, and I
Speaker 8: was filming the Sun, and I thought about that. So
Speaker 8: I went to go scan around and lo and behold,
Speaker 8: I found another object that looks just like the Sun.
Speaker 8: Wouldn't focus quite as well as the Sun was slightly smaller,
Speaker 8: and I didn't. I had thousands and thousands of hours
Speaker 8: of moon telescope time, but not maybe not even one hundred,
Speaker 8: or very little time on the solar So I didn't
Speaker 8: want to talk out of school. Is my footage. So
Speaker 8: here's the footage that the first discovery of the so
Speaker 8: called second Sun. Watch the top of the frame. That's
Speaker 8: the sum we see, that's lens flare. That's lens flare.
Speaker 8: Some we see some we see little lens flare coming
Speaker 8: in there. Watch the top of the frame. See that thing,
Speaker 8: go buy up there, keep watching. I saw it, and
Speaker 8: I well, what the heck was that? There's the sun
Speaker 8: we see with our eyes, the one we know. What's
Speaker 8: that other object up there.
Speaker 9: And that's not lens flair, that's the whole sphiraical sun.
Speaker 10: That's like a red er.
Speaker 8: So I did everything. You'll see it dims out. I
Speaker 8: put my hand over the light block. I did everything. Well,
Speaker 8: his fate would have it. Another man, Chris van Maitri
Speaker 8: and twenty sixteen replicated this, and it was in a
Speaker 8: different place. I think it was down below the sun.
Speaker 8: This was above the sun. But that's not even the kicker.
Speaker 8: This is the kicker. In the same year twenty sixteen,
Speaker 8: this slow observatory had an astronomer streaming with a hydrogen
Speaker 8: alpha telescope the Sun because mercury was going to transit
Speaker 8: and they wanted to show the young people. Problem is
Speaker 8: that object was damn near kissing the Sun. Halfway through
Speaker 8: the stream. He says, I'll bet you're all wondering what
Speaker 8: that is. And this is what he said. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 8: You can look up the clip he said that is
Speaker 8: the second son. NASA knows about it. They just don't
Speaker 8: want you to know about it. Later there was a
Speaker 8: response that he was joking, but not only have I
Speaker 8: filmed what he was joking about, but who tells a
Speaker 8: joke like that to kids was right, there's the slow observatory.
Speaker 8: What I don't know is like some people are like
Speaker 8: the old occult idea that there are like crystal spheares
Speaker 8: going out seven or however many of them right, like
Speaker 8: the spiritual hierarchies, and that these are reflections on the
Speaker 8: next sphere up or something. There's all these ideas. But
Speaker 8: I've studied things like shri Yuk, Deeschwar and others where
Speaker 8: they say there's a binary, they flat out say it,
Speaker 8: and that it comes so many thousand years and in
Speaker 8: this era shift and in all the changes we see
Speaker 8: in the sun, it's become pale. It feels like it's
Speaker 8: more direct, but it doesn't seem to burn you as
Speaker 8: quick all these changes, Is if possible that there really
Speaker 8: is a binary? And while I kind of lean that
Speaker 8: if I want to be honest with you and me
Speaker 8: and everyone listening, which I do, I need to know
Speaker 8: a lot more. But it's there. It's not a pipe dream.
Speaker 8: It is there, and it's not there all the time.
Speaker 8: And by the way, and my other footage that I'm
Speaker 8: doing recently, it looks to me like it's tucked behind
Speaker 8: our sun almost all the time.
Speaker 10: That's fascinating. Huh.
Speaker 9: I wonder what that then could mean to like and
Speaker 9: due to our when if you know, having two sons
Speaker 9: instead of one, what you know, if the sun is
Speaker 9: this conscious ball, this conscious being of electromagnetic energy and
Speaker 9: it has this kind of thing, I wonder what that
Speaker 9: does to us as humans, and if it's also helping
Speaker 9: in this progression and this shift that's going on right
Speaker 9: now that we're in, in this cycle and this time
Speaker 9: of nature that we're in.
Speaker 10: I could only imagine it does something.
Speaker 2: I think that was a boras different.
Speaker 8: Sorry, I was beat out of And remember the film
Speaker 8: two thousand and.
Speaker 10: One, A space out of Yeah, of course, of course,
Speaker 10: remember how.
Speaker 8: Good it looked and how crappy the short. No, I'm
Speaker 8: just kidding, but there was a sequel to that movie
Speaker 8: called twenty ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 8: At the very end of that, Roy Scheider does a
Speaker 8: little speech, my children will grow up in a world
Speaker 8: where there's two sons in the sky. Go listen to
Speaker 8: that's soliloquy at the end, And I've listened to it
Speaker 8: a few times and there's just some kind of a
Speaker 8: resonance there. But the truth is, I just need to
Speaker 8: know more which is why as soon as the ice
Speaker 8: thaws around here, I'll be back behind my scope trying
Speaker 8: to do what I can do.
Speaker 10: Nice.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a movie out right now called and it's
Speaker 9: based off a Chinese book, right three Body Problem, which
Speaker 9: I do recommend everyone to watch it, But the books
Speaker 9: are completely different. Interesting enough, But it is, you know,
Speaker 9: it could be one of those things. It comes into
Speaker 9: the collective unconscious. Somebody writes about it, and it's like
Speaker 9: as a warning for all of us, are trying to
Speaker 9: wake us up that there's more to our son then
Speaker 9: we can think about let alone it being about disclosure.
Speaker 8: Well, one thing's for sure. We got a front row
Speaker 8: seat to some very historical goings on, and if we
Speaker 8: have the presence of mind not to remain angry or afraid,
Speaker 8: that would be a very good thing in helping steer
Speaker 8: things in the direction they need to go. But I mean,
Speaker 8: we're in the thick of it here. The whole world
Speaker 8: has just been shown the truth of atrocity, and if
Speaker 8: something is not done about that, the consequences that get
Speaker 8: paid will be on us and the way we live
Speaker 8: our lives in this period of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jane, Jen, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Sir, sorry about that, boss, I totally got the times wrong.
Speaker 2: But that is the problem.
Speaker 1: That is one of the caveats to obviously being in
Speaker 1: our head of ESK, So I definitely apologize for that.
Speaker 1: You know, Google sometimes plays a little tricks on me like that.
Speaker 1: Not your fault at all, not anyone's fault, And I
Speaker 1: apologize for Crow and Rose was really looking forward to it,
Speaker 1: and I know that Nick was psyched for it for
Speaker 1: weeks in advance.
Speaker 2: So I apologize.
Speaker 8: Sincerely, but I did who has joined us? I'm sorry,
Speaker 8: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: My name is Jin.
Speaker 1: I have a show called Threshold Saints, and I obviously
Speaker 1: on my reject as well Nick's.
Speaker 8: I was going to ask, why did you guys get rejected?
Speaker 10: That's a question.
Speaker 1: Well I did have a follow up since Nick did
Speaker 1: bring up Kabala and I don't know if this got
Speaker 1: brought up earlier, but the idea of tiffer It being
Speaker 1: empty is actually a colistic idea. It fits perfectly because
Speaker 1: tiffer It it would be a star, so it would be empty.
Speaker 1: Considered empty, that doesn't mean that it doesn't have anything
Speaker 1: in it. It means masslessness and womanlessness. So the idea
Speaker 1: that you could perhaps have a vacuum within it, or
Speaker 1: a void as like a hyperspace. Maybe you could say
Speaker 1: gateway to travel upwards to hire conscious experiences into death
Speaker 1: and intogether, meaning into Pluto or the eclipse, and then
Speaker 1: into outer three. That would actually make a lot of
Speaker 1: sense for how someone could travel the tree. So I
Speaker 1: was just thinking to myself when Rose was showing the
Speaker 1: sun that actually Cabala explains pretty much that whole situation
Speaker 1: if you want to think of it in processes of consciousness.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's perfect for an outer sort of
Speaker 1: a gross example, but for a metaphysics I think it
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: And even the soul decisil is looks like what he
Speaker 4: was showing with the circumpolt es.
Speaker 8: Yes, with the circumpunct exactly. I like the idea. And
Speaker 8: I'll tell you something. I used the sun gaze a lot,
Speaker 8: and for people listening that's staring at the sun. Don't
Speaker 8: do it unless you know what you're doing. You don't
Speaker 8: give all of big to babies, right. Similar thing going
Speaker 8: on there not a good thing. You can damage your eyes.
Speaker 8: But I got up to the point where I could
Speaker 8: do long stretches. But there is a equilibrium that hits
Speaker 8: at some point when you've been doing it a while
Speaker 8: and you've got your eyes locked on the sun and
Speaker 8: your bare feet are on the earth, and it starts
Speaker 8: to look like a portal. I mean, really really starts
Speaker 8: to look like a portal. And you see the work
Speaker 8: of people like Monro and others where they talk about, well,
Speaker 8: you better get your vibration above the moon or that
Speaker 8: things sucking you in. And then you see the movies
Speaker 8: where they show things exiting through the sun. It's interesting
Speaker 8: ideas for sure, But I like the Kabbala transfer over
Speaker 8: because that is some old information, and I like old information.
Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on the objects going in and
Speaker 5: out of the sun.
Speaker 8: I've never seen it, but I've seen a lot of
Speaker 8: people who don't quite get their cameras. Where a plane
Speaker 8: looks like a plane flies through the sun, that's just
Speaker 8: about how much light you're letting in. If you have
Speaker 8: that cranked way way down, you would see the plane
Speaker 8: travel all the way across the disk, even when it
Speaker 8: looks like when it that, even when it comes out
Speaker 8: the other side and it looks like it's pulling matter
Speaker 8: with it, you know what I mean? It looks like
Speaker 8: a pope's in the top and when it comes out,
Speaker 8: it like stretches behind a little bit that's just cranked
Speaker 8: down the aperture on your camera.
Speaker 1: And it will fix that. I do actually have a
Speaker 1: follow up. Sorry about that A quick one.
Speaker 2: Crow.
Speaker 1: You said that you colored the image of the sun gold.
Speaker 1: I think that you said you colored it, and then
Speaker 1: I obviously assumed gold because that makes sense. That actually
Speaker 1: also makes sense in in achabolistic way. Now, the other
Speaker 1: thing that I thought was interesting was when we were
Speaker 1: when Rose was showing the flare in a radio chromatography,
Speaker 1: the sun actually appears as lime green. So it's actually
Speaker 1: an interesting kind of al chemical thing of chrysopia, meaning
Speaker 1: that there's a greening happening before the gold emerges.
Speaker 8: That would be but yeah, that would be dead center
Speaker 8: in the color spectrum, the green and actually the guy's
Speaker 8: tiff it is harmony, right, yeah. Yeah. The guys who
Speaker 8: are much more skilled at solar work than I am,
Speaker 8: because they're really good mathematicians and astronomers, they talk about
Speaker 8: going far to the right band, which is blue or
Speaker 8: the left hand, you know, and there is the idea
Speaker 8: of green and green filters. But if you look at
Speaker 8: the color spectrum, that little sliver we see with our eyes,
Speaker 8: that green is dead center. You know, I think that
Speaker 8: what corresponds to art chakra. I think so there is
Speaker 8: a whole correspondence there that I think you're getting at.
Speaker 7: About the kanji next to gin and how I've been
Speaker 7: working on my Japanese and so the kanji for Gin
Speaker 7: would be in the word Friday kiin yobi, and the
Speaker 7: kin within kiin Yobi, meaning Friday, would mean gold. And
Speaker 7: so I just was looking up because I'm not familiar
Speaker 7: with Chinese Mandarin, but they're using in Japanese kanji, which
Speaker 7: comes from Chinese, to come to find that that kanji
Speaker 7: represents gold.
Speaker 6: So I'm just wondering.
Speaker 7: If that's why it was associated with Friday symbolically. But
Speaker 7: maybe I should ask Jin what he thinks, since he's
Speaker 7: the one who has the kanji on his.
Speaker 8: Name wrote it.
Speaker 1: Well, I am ethnic Chinese, as everybody on the panel knows,
Speaker 1: they've heard a ten million times. I apologize, but yes,
Speaker 1: so the character next to my name is Jin Teine,
Speaker 1: which is gold. But it actually refers to something interesting.
Speaker 1: I think you'll find an interesting rose is that it
Speaker 1: actually refers to Aurelius the process of gilding than something
Speaker 1: actually being gold prior. So there's an inherent chemical, alchemical
Speaker 1: excuse me, connotation to the character. It is the canopy
Speaker 1: of heaven with a sword descending down, or can also
Speaker 1: be described as the lightning strike hitting the ground. And
Speaker 1: when the strike hits the ground, which is the bottom
Speaker 1: third stroke in the character, you see like two little
Speaker 1: pieces of earth sort of get dislodged. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: be like the shining of the metal revealed underneath two.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, because that totally blows my mind, because
Speaker 7: that made me think of the word exalt. Okay, but
Speaker 7: when you talk about lightning, it's going down. But when
Speaker 7: I've talked to a lot of people about the fabric
Speaker 7: of our reality, like Luke and his divine emission theory,
Speaker 7: when people say as above, so below, he says, you
Speaker 7: know what, Actually I say so below as a as
Speaker 7: above so.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that made sense.
Speaker 1: But that way, we're in control. I believe what we
Speaker 1: are in control of our own realm. I believe that.
Speaker 1: I know this is getting a little meta, a little speculative,
Speaker 1: but I personally believe we are in control of the
Speaker 1: human realm. I think that this is our realm to control.
Speaker 1: I think that there are people in the world that
Speaker 1: believe that that get like, you know, divine certain religions,
Speaker 1: if they believe in the angels really deeply, or they
Speaker 1: believe in the these spirits really deeply, and they might
Speaker 1: even believe themselves to be communicating with them. But I
Speaker 1: believe that man is actually in control of our own realm,
Speaker 1: just as I believe man is in control of our
Speaker 1: own minds. And I think that we are agents of
Speaker 1: our own will, as grow is saying. And I think
Speaker 1: that we get to decide what we believe. And I
Speaker 1: think that the things that happen down here actually have
Speaker 1: more metaphysical implication up quote unquote up there. And I
Speaker 1: think people put way too much emphasis on what happens
Speaker 1: in the higher worlds. And I don't even think they're higher.
Speaker 1: I think that's just a way to describe them, like
Speaker 1: in the hierarchy of worlds. But actually I think our
Speaker 1: world is very high. Now I'm a Contrabuddhist, so Dharma
Speaker 1: agrees with us that the rebirth in the human world
Speaker 1: is this of the high. It does not mean that
Speaker 1: you are born like a god or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but that simply that we have choice, free agency, free
Speaker 1: will to live on this plane in the ways that
Speaker 1: we choose, in the ways that we want. So we
Speaker 1: can either be generative or we can be degenerative. That's
Speaker 1: not obviously the only choices, but those are two major ones.
Speaker 1: So I would say that it has a lot to
Speaker 1: do with it. And interesting about the Friday because in
Speaker 1: East Asian cosmology, Friday is actually associated with immortality, the
Speaker 1: god of Friday, and he often is that has a
Speaker 1: huge all this head and he is in control of
Speaker 1: what's called.
Speaker 8: The celestial peach garden.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that has anything to do
Speaker 1: with it, but it is interesting that he is immortal.
Speaker 6: It blows my mind.
Speaker 7: Because how did the people however many years ago, creating Kanji,
Speaker 7: know that Friday should be associated with gold, which is
Speaker 7: immortal because gold doesn't tarnish, like, how would they associate
Speaker 7: it correctly? Planetarily?
Speaker 9: And well, I think that they were much closer related
Speaker 9: to the forces of nature, you know, like as we
Speaker 9: see with like Homer's Iliad and Odyssey in the works
Speaker 9: of the past. They didn't see gods as anything as
Speaker 9: like above them. They were unfolding within the cosmic drama,
Speaker 9: so every force in the world they were able to
Speaker 9: kind of see as connected to everything. It's kind of
Speaker 9: like Julian James's work with the left right brain, like
Speaker 9: not knowing that one was talking to themselves.
Speaker 10: They were on Saturn, right, Yeah, right, well they were.
Speaker 8: We have machines thinking for us. They didn't have that either.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, well that doesn't ever work out, right.
Speaker 9: Dune shows us the roadmap of where the world is
Speaker 9: going to go the but lerry and jihad and how
Speaker 9: we have to go away from that, right, And how does.
Speaker 8: He know to write about that in the fifties or
Speaker 8: wherever it was. I mean that one thing that never
Speaker 8: really gets explained very well in the main thing. It's
Speaker 8: a huge deal. How could you have the foresight to
Speaker 8: think of such a thing.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, it's interesting, and that's a great question. Will
Speaker 9: This doesn't answer that question, but it is food for thought.
Speaker 9: Paul Stammet's the mushroom Guru, right. He was friends actually
Speaker 9: with Frank Herbert supposedly or they spoke once and Frank
Speaker 9: told him told Paul Stammets that the elixir of the water,
Speaker 9: the elixir water of life, which is the blue drink
Speaker 9: that he takes, which is the sandworms spice, the ultra
Speaker 9: concentrated form, and it made him do the thing that
Speaker 9: is actually him talking about a certain kind of psychedelic mushroom.
Speaker 9: That's his symbolic understanding of what that is interesting enough,
Speaker 9: and so if you do take enough of that, you
Speaker 9: do break into that d mt S experience with enough
Speaker 9: of it, and then you can see the very fabric
Speaker 9: of existence.
Speaker 8: Right, So the machine Elves told him.
Speaker 10: Well, you know, like, let's not add terrence into this.
Speaker 9: He's Terrence was definitely uh, you know, doing his thing
Speaker 9: as well.
Speaker 10: So it's fast making it.
Speaker 9: That was a good one, and it's true, it's interesting
Speaker 9: enough of how far we go, right. The machine elves again,
Speaker 9: I think are just also covering over because I've seen
Speaker 9: said elves and I think there's just another layer of
Speaker 9: of control and a veil to the next level of
Speaker 9: something else. That's my own h think though, because the
Speaker 9: gester is keeping you away in you know, like when
Speaker 9: you take DMT. A lot of people see the gester.
Speaker 9: That gester can be known as like a guardian threshold
Speaker 9: barrier of letting somebody enter into that next thing kind
Speaker 9: of like the firmament is allowing you to go up
Speaker 9: into the higher selestial spheres, and so there is this
Speaker 9: overlap into what our brain, mind, nervous system does to
Speaker 9: stop us from maybe having higher levels of experience that
Speaker 9: will completely burn out our nervous system.
Speaker 2: So I think, did anybody have any other questions or anything? Judith,
Speaker 2: did you have anything? Oh? Okay, there's something I was
Speaker 2: going to say.
Speaker 4: Totally forgot oh one thing I didn't want to mention
Speaker 4: with Friday real quick. Friday is associated with green, not
Speaker 4: necessarily gold. But I mean then again you'd be going
Speaker 4: back to Jim's I did with the picture and it
Speaker 4: being green. Find that interesting.
Speaker 8: I do have one more think, Dad Rose, should we
Speaker 8: show the Riccioli sixteen fifty one artwork?
Speaker 6: Yes, I do think we should let me bring that up.
Speaker 8: So Jason and I just recorded I did a whole
Speaker 8: episode on this image Blue Fallow, and no that I
Speaker 8: appreciate what Tycho Brahi did nice and I appreciate good artwork,
Speaker 8: particularly if there's a level of meaning in it. So
Speaker 8: we put down two hours to go over Riccioli, who
Speaker 8: was all about Tycho Brahe also he did modify in
Speaker 8: this image. He took it upon himself to modify the
Speaker 8: so called orbits of Saturn and Jupiter different than bra
Speaker 8: he had. But it's really quite an image, and it
Speaker 8: is dense with levels of meaning. I'm sure that I
Speaker 8: didn't describe everything's there. I did what I could. But
Speaker 8: this is called This is from a book called Alma
Speaker 8: jes Nuovo, which for the first time has been translated
Speaker 8: into English. So I ran out and got a hot copy.
Speaker 8: But what you're looking at here, maybe we'll go from
Speaker 8: the top down. There's actually three sevens above the hand
Speaker 8: of God there, believe it or not. There's Latin much
Speaker 8: of it script, but there's a scale below God's hand.
Speaker 8: Astria the goddess is holding the scale, and then the
Speaker 8: one hundred eyed Argis is on the other side. Under
Speaker 8: the scale is Claudius Ptolemy, and his little model is
Speaker 8: at the bottom discarded about to roll out a frame,
Speaker 8: but the scale is weighing two models. On the left
Speaker 8: we have the Copernican model that we use now, and
Speaker 8: on the right we have Tycho Brahi's model. But the Riccioli,
Speaker 8: the Jesuit priest who commissioned this and directed it, changed
Speaker 8: the orbit of Saturn and Jupiter to go around Earth
Speaker 8: instead of the way Tycho had it. But it's basically
Speaker 8: the Takonic model. But this artwork is just so exquisite,
Speaker 8: with so many levels of meaning. And it is artwork
Speaker 8: of this kind that influenced me to make my episode images.
Speaker 8: I don't know if anyone's noticed, but all these episode
Speaker 8: images either have a puzzle or levels of meaning that
Speaker 8: I originally started to do because I realized AI can't
Speaker 8: figure this out all the way like a human being can.
Speaker 8: Even some of them are simple, with just arrows to
Speaker 8: show you where to go. But that idea came from
Speaker 8: this time when very learned individuals just packed levels of
Speaker 8: information and.
Speaker 4: Nice you're a fan of bro I'm sorry you're a
Speaker 4: big fan of tackle brahe.
Speaker 8: I think it's the most valuable thing that we've been
Speaker 8: handed forward. I don't agree with all of it, but
Speaker 8: it's much more valuable to me than is the Copernican model.
Speaker 4: No, I like him too. I covered him on the
Speaker 4: show by myself. It was a very interesting character, very
Speaker 4: very amazing.
Speaker 8: His biography by any chance, well not.
Speaker 2: All of it, but I did use some of that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's an interesting, interesting area that guy had quite
Speaker 8: a little action packed life. But it's known that he
Speaker 8: denied Kepler access to the data. Yeh, and he denied everybody.
Speaker 8: And there are rumors that Kepler had to do with
Speaker 8: his death, But let me ask you, he hires Kepler
Speaker 8: to help do some math. Kepler doesn't even know how
Speaker 8: to use his tools, never did observation. Somehow Tycho dies
Speaker 8: and he walks away with the data.
Speaker 2: And because I covered. I mean, that's like.
Speaker 8: Colembo saying, who is the last person that's all him alive?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Kid? It's very very shady.
Speaker 4: I think the family even tried taking a Kepler to
Speaker 4: court to stop him from even using the ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I think that the image that Rose just showed you
Speaker 8: is the Jesuit order, who were among the most educated men,
Speaker 8: telling each other that we're going to give them the
Speaker 8: Copernican model, but we all know that Tycho's better. They
Speaker 8: say in the modern era that that's propaganda. Well, propaganda
Speaker 8: has to be recognized by the masses. And nobody spoke Latin,
Speaker 8: nobody was educated in all the Greek myth nobody, you know,
Speaker 8: it's ridiculous, it's it's reverse propaganda. I think it's a
Speaker 8: hoodwink the to the learned men to comprehend that there's
Speaker 8: more value in tycho than what we're handing to everyone else.
Speaker 10: Wow, yeah, that makes sense. Maybe yeah, I like that.
Speaker 9: Can you explain to the people who don't know or
Speaker 9: listen to your show, what your idea of the skyclock.
Speaker 8: It's just when I used to go on and talk,
Speaker 8: I recognize that certain topics, if you say the wrong word,
Speaker 8: you lose a lot of minds. And one of the
Speaker 8: problems was if I wanted to talk about astronomy, the
Speaker 8: astrologers would leave, and if I wanted to talk about astrology,
Speaker 8: the astronomers would leave. And I recognized that the language
Speaker 8: was doing it. So I invented a word called skyclock,
Speaker 8: and it worked. I recognized that people weren't leaving because
Speaker 8: the baggage attached the word didn't enter the conversation.
Speaker 9: Nice that smart. Yeah, like you are recreating called neologisms.
Speaker 9: It's like you're creating your own words to get around
Speaker 9: the semantic baggage that happens with what's going on.
Speaker 8: It's kind of like the spiritual hierarchies, right. That guy
Speaker 8: in the sixteen seventeen hundred said, wait a minute, I
Speaker 8: want to use new labels here that forces people in
Speaker 8: a spiritual direction. And everybody reads the Bible and knows
Speaker 8: about the Bible, so I will use those words, and
Speaker 8: it's genius to me. So I'm just copying some guy.
Speaker 9: Nice, I said, you're you're reshowing us all the magnetism
Speaker 9: off the sun there. But I think it's interesting about
Speaker 9: this is it looks like a bunch of little like.
Speaker 2: Hairs, you know what, pupil of your iris.
Speaker 10: And pupil in the iris. There you go, that's exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know what's interesting is that. Have you ever heard
Speaker 4: of Robert Flood. Yes, he's got some kind of in
Speaker 4: some of his books. It looks like he's drawing the
Speaker 4: eyeball some of his uh, some of his drawings a
Speaker 4: little kind of close to that. If that circle, if
Speaker 4: that blackness was a little bit more circular, These guys wouldn't.
Speaker 8: Surprise me if it was looking at us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got some weird, weird drawings in that, dude,
Speaker 2: I don't know, might interest you.
Speaker 8: In my view, we have a lot of work to redefine.
Speaker 8: And when I say, you know, we need to throw
Speaker 8: everything out, that's a very general statement. We know a
Speaker 8: lot of things that are useful, but we need to
Speaker 8: buffet out and kick down the walls. In my view,
Speaker 8: we shouldn't say I'm a scientist. There's no room for
Speaker 8: spiritual ideas here to me. You know, back in Tycho
Speaker 8: Brahe's time, there was no difference between astronomy and astrology zero.
Speaker 8: Yeahat Man was so admired that the kings wanted him
Speaker 8: to draw charts for them. And by the way, Tycho
Speaker 8: brahe didn't never have a telescope, it was just about
Speaker 8: to be invented. Invented it, and he refined these manual
Speaker 8: tools that his data to this day is still valid.
Speaker 8: And Copernicus and Kepler they used all his work seven
Speaker 8: hundred and seventy seven stars if you refined and refined
Speaker 8: and refined, and he did that close to nature, right,
Speaker 8: There's no ingenious lens or something. He's using tubes and
Speaker 8: pendulums and you know Carpenter's tools, and look how accurate
Speaker 8: his stuff was. And you know, King said, hey, I'm
Speaker 8: getting ready to go start war with these guys, can
Speaker 8: you draw me a chart? And they fought to get
Speaker 8: that information from him because he had included a wider
Speaker 8: swath of the creation, not just the material stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, he he literally had stuff.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you probably know this, but I'm just reiterating
Speaker 4: it for other people that don't know. Then he had
Speaker 4: like these domes that he had ship that it was
Speaker 4: like stuck into the ground and into the walls, so
Speaker 4: like even the wind wasn't fucking it up.
Speaker 2: When he was like trying to look through like these
Speaker 2: wooden things that he was making to try to look
Speaker 2: at the sky.
Speaker 8: From the firmament, he realized that that looking at light
Speaker 8: through the firmament offset it a little bit. And by
Speaker 8: the way, did you know that was the biggest observatory
Speaker 8: in the world.
Speaker 4: Supposed Yeahburg However, you say that ship and then he hadn't.
Speaker 8: The muse of astrology of astronomy Urania, which a lot
Speaker 8: of people think Urania is in that image by the way,
Speaker 8: I mean the idea fits, but I'm reasonably sure it's
Speaker 8: Astria Virgo.
Speaker 2: You know that guy he was huge into.
Speaker 4: He treated everybody on that island too, like with tinctures
Speaker 4: and herbs like he was the guy was See.
Speaker 8: When you take medicine like fortune is a guy if
Speaker 8: when you take that kind of remedy based medicine, based
Speaker 8: in nature, and you know how to time it to
Speaker 8: the skyclock you're shooting nuclear weapons that aren't nuclear. It's
Speaker 8: a whole other ballgame. I've seen people cured of things
Speaker 8: that I grew up believing could not be cured. I've
Speaker 8: been told by people everything is curable, except you know,
Speaker 8: retardation of certain kinds of brain injuries. But many of
Speaker 8: the things that I have been told aren't curable. It's
Speaker 8: not true. The body heals itself if you do the
Speaker 8: right things with me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I came across stuff where he even had stuff supposedly.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is what what the source was saying,
Speaker 4: that even like some of his things around the castle
Speaker 4: where he like planted like stuff like I guess flowers
Speaker 4: and herbs that they're even done like in chunks and
Speaker 4: planetary like these are all the ones associated with Saturn,
Speaker 4: these all the ones with Jupiter, Like he even had
Speaker 4: that growing around the castle.
Speaker 8: You can still get at that. There are still people
Speaker 8: that have the knowledge. Like if you take a sunplant
Speaker 8: like I think gosh, I gotta remember correctly, I think sage,
Speaker 8: which is one of the herbs I like and grow
Speaker 8: as a sun plant. I remember cannabis is Saturn and
Speaker 8: maybe Neptune. I forget it's a couple. But each plant
Speaker 8: has its correspondent to illuminary And when you begin to
Speaker 8: know that, we think about this so and I don't
Speaker 8: want to mention it again after this, but the data
Speaker 8: don't right. I told you it's revelation. It's an our
Speaker 8: chemical procedure and we're all being initiated right now. But
Speaker 8: when did it start in the spring? Right, Real big
Speaker 8: alchemical productions begin at the string equinox, a lot of them,
Speaker 8: and they're timed out that way. So this is what's
Speaker 8: been denied us. And actually I have read completely believable
Speaker 8: and acceptable accounts from secret societies that swear the naming
Speaker 8: of Mercury and Venus was swapped so that nobody could
Speaker 8: get it down to the second because of the power
Speaker 8: that it allowed them to access. And it's not described
Speaker 8: very well. So you're thinking, well, wait a minute, does
Speaker 8: that mean the planet got swapped or just the name
Speaker 8: got swapped? And I think they're saying just the name,
Speaker 8: but I read it in more than one place, and
Speaker 8: Steiner said it, I think too, So think about that.
Speaker 8: If that's true. Back then, some was so worried that
Speaker 8: they could line the skyclock up for some procedure that
Speaker 8: would be so powerful, they needed to swap the name
Speaker 8: so they wouldn't get it on the money. It's crazy.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 8: They do.
Speaker 9: They've done that with I think like magicians and their
Speaker 9: grimars and different things have to do that same kind
Speaker 9: of swapping so people don't get to the true secrets,
Speaker 9: so the power doesn't get land in supposedly wrong hands.
Speaker 8: You can have the potatoes, but you're not getting the meat.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, that's it's it's hilarious, nice, fascinating.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually had a follow up, quick follow up to
Speaker 1: the Uranian comment, Well, there is one way crow to
Speaker 1: sort of map the tree in Kabala, so that Kender
Speaker 1: the top sphere which the community is matched with non
Speaker 1: equivalent to equivalent, but you can say is linked with
Speaker 1: Urinus in our cycle, in our current cycle, it would
Speaker 1: be Urinus.
Speaker 8: A pink color. Bring you guys hear them?
Speaker 4: Okay, it sounds like he's muffled nor about that, Yeah, Urania,
Speaker 4: or you're referring to the.
Speaker 8: SoC Sorry, you'reine as you're in as what's wrong with no.
Speaker 1: Urine can be described as related to the highest suffer.
Speaker 8: Sorry, I think.
Speaker 2: It's your mike. I think it might might be messed
Speaker 2: up right now for a second, yes, modilating, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's going like in and out.
Speaker 10: It's the tech arkan slive guy. You got a hold
Speaker 10: of you, Gin.
Speaker 4: You know, I feel like recently with streaming one, somebody
Speaker 4: always has a mic problem during the show.
Speaker 9: There's something wrong with there's something wrong with you.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry. It was a low blow.
Speaker 11: I couldn't resist what he's saying, waiting it to something
Speaker 11: that's you know, to find it. I apologize for the
Speaker 11: low joke.
Speaker 2: That was great.
Speaker 10: We're all about low bar jokes here.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, don't worry about it, are you there?
Speaker 9: Jin?
Speaker 2: Oh? Maybe not?
Speaker 6: Is it resolved or no?
Speaker 8: Sorry?
Speaker 2: Got better?
Speaker 8: I thought you really weren't one of the rejects.
Speaker 7: So there is that if you leave and come back,
Speaker 7: it resolves the issue.
Speaker 6: Leave and come back. I can show a UFO footage
Speaker 6: from him.
Speaker 8: Sure I've done that, Gin, you should give it a try.
Speaker 8: So it's worked for me before. All right, I'm not
Speaker 8: going to tell jokes. He was saying something.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's totally fine. I'm glad that people bring
Speaker 1: levity to the situation. It's that's the best way to
Speaker 1: deal with technological issue for sure.
Speaker 8: Y And obviously I am.
Speaker 1: I am a jokester on the show, as everybody who
Speaker 1: watches the show knows.
Speaker 8: I try and you know, draw bars. I'm a little
Speaker 8: hanging fruit when you bring.
Speaker 2: It j Mike is still messed up.
Speaker 8: You let me, let me go, let me go, and come.
Speaker 10: Let's let's see the UFO stuff.
Speaker 8: F o u v GP.
Speaker 7: All right, Okay, So this is a short I recently made,
Speaker 7: and so I am very glad because he has these
Speaker 7: amazing videos from ten years ago that nobody sees anymore
Speaker 7: because people's attention spans have gone down. So now finally
Speaker 7: people are seeing it again because I chucked it down.
Speaker 6: Here we go.
Speaker 8: I shot this before it was dark one night, wasn't
Speaker 8: all the way dark. And it's a craft with three
Speaker 8: thrusters on it.
Speaker 2: Oh what.
Speaker 7: Okay, wait, I put the Maybe I picked the wrong
Speaker 7: one showing Okay, this is just explaining close ups of it,
Speaker 7: but darn it, I picked the wrong short to share.
Speaker 7: Oh you don't have it, No, I can just get
Speaker 7: the regular video for that, okay, bro. And then we're
Speaker 7: going to click on the channel, and then we're going
Speaker 7: to click on the search and go to thereat.
Speaker 9: Just real quick, do you think that all of the
Speaker 9: UFO slash, ORB sighting slash, all this nonsense is Military
Speaker 9: Industrial Complex DARPA stuff, or do you think anybody has
Speaker 9: any merit to actually being interdimensional beings?
Speaker 8: Let me come at it this way. You're in the
Speaker 8: middle of the desert, twenty miles from anywhere, and you
Speaker 8: come across a shack. There's no footprints, no indication anyone
Speaker 8: walked up to the building. You go inside and there's
Speaker 8: a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on the table. Who
Speaker 8: put it there?
Speaker 9: Probably somebody from the military Industrial Complex.
Speaker 8: Well, I know human beings make peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 8: I'm going with that.
Speaker 9: Okay, good, I like that, So I'm using that from
Speaker 9: go on.
Speaker 10: Okay, it works, it's great, that's great.
Speaker 8: I'm actually lying. I know for a fact that it's
Speaker 8: beings from another dimension. They love jelly. Yeah, So you
Speaker 8: can see three thrusters right there right. This thing just
Speaker 8: kept falling and falling. And by the way, I'm on
Speaker 8: my eight inch telescope and they're not made to track
Speaker 8: moving things. So I'm doing this by hand, totally shit,
Speaker 8: and it's reversed and flipped right.
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Yeah, So I lose it a.
Speaker 8: Couple of times, but I do get a pretty good
Speaker 8: shot at it. And it's absolutely a craft of some
Speaker 8: kind with three discernible thrusters blasting.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you can lasting all oaks.
Speaker 8: It looks like that, like the little lander thing with
Speaker 8: three thrusters.
Speaker 9: So that could be like a satellite from another thing,
Speaker 9: or we think, and it's an eve and of itself.
Speaker 10: We don't know it's supposed to this.
Speaker 8: Everyone and their brother tried to match it with launches
Speaker 8: and everything. As far as I know, nobody found anything.
Speaker 8: But I mean, if it is the military industrial complex,
Speaker 8: that would be expected, right yea, or China.
Speaker 9: China's got all kinds of stuff up there that we
Speaker 9: don't know.
Speaker 10: One everyone wants to talk about.
Speaker 8: So they say, yeah, here's the inverted image. So now
Speaker 8: the thrusters are black. Oh, we got Jim back. Jan
Speaker 8: Are you there?
Speaker 3: Jen?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 8: How's my mic?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 8: Oh? There you go? You sound intelligible?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was bad, Thank you, Jen, appreciate it.
Speaker 8: I was gonna plug it into AI A. I know.
Speaker 2: So Jin, do you want to ask him that question.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not really a big deal. I just
Speaker 1: was tying trying to tie into Urinus, and because there
Speaker 1: is a way to sort of connect them if you
Speaker 1: associate Uranus with Tader, so you can say that there
Speaker 1: is like a sort of interchange that happens, like there's
Speaker 1: a path between them. So it's like it would be
Speaker 1: describing deonfortune as a Samon.
Speaker 2: Color.
Speaker 1: I just thought that's kind of interesting to you because
Speaker 1: you're thinking in aonic cycles, you would consider the green
Speaker 1: and pink to the aonic So that kind of slime
Speaker 1: green as we were talking about as the color of
Speaker 1: the sun, which is how it appears in chromo radio
Speaker 1: radio chromatography, and then the pink from Uranus or coather.
Speaker 1: So I just think that there's like a straight up
Speaker 1: like cabalistic sort of like working here. It's it seems
Speaker 1: like it is suggesting that it's it is what people
Speaker 1: it would say, it is what Crow is suggesting in
Speaker 1: the sense that, like I do think these are processes
Speaker 1: of consciousness that we are seeing unfold maybe alchemically in
Speaker 1: the universe, and maybe it's giving us like a hermeneutic,
Speaker 1: like a tool to understand how we can also get there.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think we can get there in like
Speaker 1: a spaceship, but I think we can actually get there,
Speaker 1: and maybe what's called like the mercab or the help alot,
Speaker 1: like the chariot sort of way to travel.
Speaker 8: All the luminaries represented in Kabala, even like Neptune and
Speaker 8: Urinus that we didn't know about back then.
Speaker 9: No, those two are known different and different things. It
Speaker 9: stops technically, it stops in her Metacabala. Those are like there,
Speaker 9: what are they there? How the sun moves around? There's
Speaker 9: something else. I don't remember exactly what they are, but
Speaker 9: they're not in the tree of life itself technically.
Speaker 8: Because the old idea of the seven in the old
Speaker 8: like natural sciences are where people call alchemy, the ones
Speaker 8: we could see with their eyes. That system is very tight.
Speaker 8: When you do something simple like again the color's broken
Speaker 8: out of white light. You know, it's typically seven of them,
Speaker 8: seven days in a week, these ideas. But the same
Speaker 8: people who use these systems recognize Urinus, they just say
Speaker 8: that it's not really a major influence quite yet on
Speaker 8: where we are. I don't know whether that's right or wrong,
Speaker 8: but I was interested to find out if that very
Speaker 8: old system included those luminaries before we supposedly knew about them.
Speaker 1: There definitely is a way to map outer three planets
Speaker 1: to Kabala. And now people find this very contentious, but
Speaker 1: I don't really. I think that hope mom, it can
Speaker 1: be described as Neptune. I think tetor can be described
Speaker 1: as Uranus. I think that it can also be described
Speaker 1: as Rahu and Ketu. Now I know people will say
Speaker 1: that Rahu Ketchu exist at the Moon and the Sun,
Speaker 1: but I think that that is also what makes the
Speaker 1: conversation interesting, because then there is sort of a replication
Speaker 1: of what happens in the lower world than in the
Speaker 1: higher world. So there's maybe like Nick is often spoken
Speaker 1: of his and crossing the experiences, so I think that
Speaker 1: there is that same kind of I think maybe there
Speaker 1: are multiple crossing the Abyss experiences. Maybe there are multiple
Speaker 1: times or positions on the tree that people go through
Speaker 1: certain kinds of thresholds or gay ways and like each
Speaker 1: other sort of states of consciousness. So that would actually
Speaker 1: make lital sense, especially if you were traveling on the
Speaker 1: middle path, which would be true different all the way
Speaker 1: up to Catter and then so you would experience less
Speaker 1: of the sort of molific nature of Saturn or Neptune,
Speaker 1: which are both molifics. And I think that people way
Speaker 1: underestimate the sort of nature of neptune nature.
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
Speaker 1: Neptune is of the nature of the imaginal, meaning that is,
Speaker 1: often people will talk about drawing things down like ideas, narratives, words,
Speaker 1: stories in particular, and placing them together in a grammar.
Speaker 1: So they will take like sort of like deity forms
Speaker 1: or mythologies and sort of rearrange them and reposition them
Speaker 1: to be expressed in the world.
Speaker 8: That then people will sort of take on as new
Speaker 8: religious formations.
Speaker 1: And because they have the nature of Neptune, they tend
Speaker 1: to be very extreme. They tend to be very much
Speaker 1: about millenarianism, shaviorism and.
Speaker 8: Sort of way that.
Speaker 1: How to change the world, things to how to change
Speaker 1: the world, like utopian or distopian ideas.
Speaker 8: So I would say that.
Speaker 1: What you're saying is more interesting to me because it
Speaker 1: sort of removes those things as a factor.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, ahead, Well, there's an interesting point of view,
Speaker 8: Like on the molific idea of Saturn, I have seen
Speaker 8: it expressed in this way. For we are Saturn's absolutely molific.
Speaker 8: But then if you go back to like the idea
Speaker 8: of King Saturnus and the original founding of Rome, the
Speaker 8: idea is that was a golden age under Saturn. And
Speaker 8: the reason is is because if you don't have all
Speaker 8: these lessons to learn and you you know you're doing
Speaker 8: it all good, then the opposite of Saturn becomes true,
Speaker 8: the idea kind of being that we have all these
Speaker 8: things to get right and we're going to get wrapped
Speaker 8: on the knuckles until we do something along those lines.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's something important to remember, like the
Speaker 9: individual amongst it when we're speaking in an astrological sense,
Speaker 9: that how we as an individual in our charts move
Speaker 9: in the world actually matter to the just as much
Speaker 9: as how what the planets represent in and of themselves,
Speaker 9: because then representing things in and of themselves is really
Speaker 9: tough without the individual amongst everything on that chart.
Speaker 8: So interesting enough, Rose, do we have anything else that
Speaker 8: we should show?
Speaker 9: Well?
Speaker 7: I do have examples of the wave going over Jupiter
Speaker 7: and Saturn from the take back space channel. I wasn't
Speaker 7: sure if people wanted to see that, since that's another
Speaker 7: example of the wave going over something other than the Moon.
Speaker 8: I don't don't know, have any of the fous or oh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean, if you want to show more
Speaker 7: of your work, there's the.
Speaker 8: I think they want to see the waves rose.
Speaker 7: But yeah, let's say we do it all waves and
Speaker 7: then we can show the plasma shooting orb and the
Speaker 7: kem bomb.
Speaker 8: Cart blotch mag.
Speaker 10: Let's do it. Thank you small, we're here.
Speaker 8: Someone bring a bib. I'll take my lobster without butter
Speaker 8: after all the urn us talk.
Speaker 6: Oh wait, wait, that's okay.
Speaker 7: So while I'm bringing this up, one, don't you tell
Speaker 7: them this is this is heartwarming that Crow has gone
Speaker 7: to the supermarket and bought lobsters to bring back to
Speaker 7: the ocean, and that.
Speaker 10: Nice.
Speaker 8: It seems like the right thing to do.
Speaker 10: So you save thebs, you save the lobsters.
Speaker 8: Fifty pounds at a time.
Speaker 2: Once.
Speaker 8: Yeah, people were looking at me like that dude's got
Speaker 8: a complete feast and he's throwing it in the ocean.
Speaker 8: So get there. I'm going down and for the longest time,
Speaker 8: I don't see lobster funk oois anywhere near where I
Speaker 8: go down to the beach. So sure enough I put
Speaker 8: something and put them in. Then the sky is a
Speaker 8: sea captain I know, brings literally fifty pounds, and we're
Speaker 8: going down there and we're putting them in. I come
Speaker 8: back two days later and there's lobster pot booties all
Speaker 8: over the How is there some dude with a telescope
Speaker 8: on the other side, going honey, I think we've just
Speaker 8: paid the rent a thousand dollars. With the lobster back
Speaker 8: into the drink, Go get them. That's good, that's good.
Speaker 9: Do you think those lobsters are domesticated? So then they
Speaker 9: get lost and don't know how to swim.
Speaker 8: I was careful. I don't name any of them.
Speaker 10: That's good.
Speaker 9: He didn't get attached, and I think that's important when
Speaker 9: you're on a humanitarian mission.
Speaker 8: Well that there was lefty, but he was missing a claw.
Speaker 7: But there's video and it was really cute because first
Speaker 7: they dropped one in and then they dropped in another,
Speaker 7: and the first one went over to a little cave
Speaker 7: and then the other one joined it. So they were
Speaker 7: probably just like super happy to be free together and
Speaker 7: just tripping out over being in their natural environment. And
Speaker 7: who knows how long they had been away or if
Speaker 7: their brains could even compute time the way I am
Speaker 7: spending way much, way too much time thinking about it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we fully thought they were going to duke it out,
Speaker 8: but they didn't. They discrewed. So I brought a bunch
Speaker 8: of eels down once too. I took a deal of
Speaker 8: that eels. Yeah, little eels. When we were kids, we
Speaker 8: used to go down there and we'd catch eels. We fished.
Speaker 8: That's why I'm putting the lobsters back. I fished so
Speaker 8: much and took so many lobsters, and now there's not
Speaker 8: as much as there was, and I regret not having
Speaker 8: a better mindset about how much I took. Now I
Speaker 8: ate I should have been better at that. So now
Speaker 8: I'm trying to pay my ticket off.
Speaker 10: No, I agree with that.
Speaker 9: I mean I was young ones and had a pellet gun.
Speaker 9: I totally get you.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 7: So anytime I've shown a video with the audio, you
Speaker 7: guys have just kept talking.
Speaker 6: So I'm assuming you're not hearing it.
Speaker 2: So I commuted it.
Speaker 8: You can mute it.
Speaker 2: I muted it.
Speaker 6: You good, you muted it. Okay.
Speaker 7: So the two that I'm playing, they have the music
Speaker 7: and sounds, so I'm going to start it now.
Speaker 6: I've inbute myself.
Speaker 12: Thank you, where's the way right, come.
Speaker 8: On now or she blows cocake island there it is?
Speaker 10: Oh shit, yeah, And I think it's important for everyone
Speaker 10: to again.
Speaker 9: Know, since we've been doing this for an hour and
Speaker 9: forty eight minutes, to know that that wave is there
Speaker 9: in a way that's like no one wants you to
Speaker 9: know that because of if you understood how planets and
Speaker 9: suns and bodies luminary bodies, what they actually were, it
Speaker 9: would help bring you.
Speaker 10: Out of the matrix, right, just as like a small summation.
Speaker 8: So check that last Jupiter when you just saw it
Speaker 8: was crazy and you can see one of the little
Speaker 8: moons at the bottom left. Oh there it is over soturn.
Speaker 10: It did it over even the rings?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Right, am I crazy? I saw that?
Speaker 8: Oh shit, the whole enchilada.
Speaker 10: Yeo, okay, okay, So then this is that disappears. Yeah,
Speaker 10: that's crazy.
Speaker 9: So this would be like electric universe theory mixed with that.
Speaker 9: So the space is actually a massive body of water,
Speaker 9: So space is more of an ocean than an empty
Speaker 9: void kind of idea.
Speaker 8: I said it in twenty sixteen. Space might be better described
Speaker 8: as liquid.
Speaker 10: You know what's funny, I think I actually heard you
Speaker 10: say that back in the day. That's hilarious.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, last JFK. Yeah, he told me we shut
Speaker 8: trail all. See, it's all nautical, dude, where's your stepper's cap?
Speaker 8: You know, I thought we're going to the moon here?
Speaker 9: I mean that would make a lot of sense, especially
Speaker 9: because you know the human body we are electromagnetic beings.
Speaker 9: This makes more sense obviously with the Sun and the
Speaker 9: luminary bodies electromagnetic beings and then everything you know we
Speaker 9: have we it is water and it's a different right.
Speaker 8: Look lower left, that's one of the moons there, probably
Speaker 8: I see. Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 2: Is it an Io that became the Sun in twenty
Speaker 2: ten that movie? Oh was it?
Speaker 8: I think it was instead of Saturn? Right, they said
Speaker 8: they couldn't make the rings supposed to be Saturn.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, well who is it that says Joseph Farrell
Speaker 9: or somebody like that I listened to talked about how
Speaker 9: Saturn used to be the Sun?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 8: That was yeah, yeah, that's rose Crucion.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, not.
Speaker 8: The Saturn you're thinking of. It is.
Speaker 10: It's different, Yeah, it's still, but it means something.
Speaker 9: It means something that it's like, yeah, exactly, and the
Speaker 9: idea that the sun can change through time. It's not
Speaker 9: always the same massive thing that we're seeing, but.
Speaker 8: We're seeing it now. It's pale, it's changing and look
Speaker 8: at like the old Hope tradition. Well during the first sun, right,
Speaker 8: you know they're acting. It's like the moon. I'm here
Speaker 8: to tell you the moon is the most mysterious thing ever,
Speaker 8: like by a gazillion miles. Ever, why do we call
Speaker 8: it a new moon? Why isn't it just the same
Speaker 8: old moon? Well, I think three years ago that when
Speaker 8: it's new, it's see through, and when it's very young,
Speaker 8: at least for most of a day, when it starts
Speaker 8: to light up again, it's see through. And there were
Speaker 8: royal astronomers that got booted out who said I saw
Speaker 8: Jupiter through it and other things. So the moon, there
Speaker 8: is so much to learn about the moon. And by
Speaker 8: the way, it absolutely plays a role when you push
Speaker 8: up daisies.
Speaker 10: Oh for sure.
Speaker 9: I mean the moon is a correspondence on the Tree
Speaker 9: of life to Ysad.
Speaker 8: But there Soldier right in dream works, the little boy
Speaker 8: fishing on the moon for souls. He's supposed to recognize
Speaker 8: that he's fishing for souls and wait, wait a minute,
Speaker 8: he threw the bobber. I wasn't looking at the moon.
Speaker 8: That was the reflection of the moon on the lake.
Speaker 8: Every Buddhist text says, don't point to the moon, show
Speaker 8: me its reflection on the surface of a lake.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that little boy is tron right, the gatekeeper into hades,
Speaker 9: into the underworld.
Speaker 8: He'll hook you up.
Speaker 10: Yeah, those dad jokes are just popping right now.
Speaker 8: What can you do with the drunken sailor?
Speaker 10: That's good?
Speaker 8: Oh, here's the exploding orb.
Speaker 10: What do you think?
Speaker 9: Do you do you subscribe to or have any credence
Speaker 9: to the idea that the moon had, Like it's kind
Speaker 9: of like a bell and rings at all?
Speaker 8: Or no, no, no, okay, not buying an ass a line,
Speaker 8: don't care, show me video. I'm still not buying it.
Speaker 9: Think got Randall Carlson and the people he talks to.
Speaker 9: He talks about things like that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're gonna tell me it wrang, Go ahead and
Speaker 8: tell me what note it played?
Speaker 10: All right, Okay, I'll reach out once I listened to that.
Speaker 7: When I first saw this and didn't know what to expect,
Speaker 7: I definitely thought it was aliens. But then as soon
Speaker 7: as it exploded and chemicals came out of it. My
Speaker 7: heart sank and I realized it was a new world order,
Speaker 7: So I thought this right.
Speaker 8: It's literally a chemtrill. Or I'm like telling my wife,
Speaker 8: I can't believe it. I've got the telescope, but I'm
Speaker 8: tracking this my hand with a telescope, and my wife's all,
Speaker 8: don't lose it, don't lose it. And all of a
Speaker 8: sudden boof, it blows up and she couldn't see it.
Speaker 8: She found it and she lost it. She's all yelling,
Speaker 8: where did it go? Where did it go? But this
Speaker 8: rained down, all this crap and this thing rains down
Speaker 8: on my left. What that there's this little device?
Speaker 2: Was this?
Speaker 8: That little red device has an antenna and it's blinking
Speaker 8: as it falls. So we had no po three days.
Speaker 8: Then the second chemtrail that got laid dropped this out
Speaker 8: of the plane. I think it was measuring and probably
Speaker 8: that little device said if you find this, mail it too,
Speaker 8: or you know, call this number. Probably something like that.
Speaker 8: But the amount of crap that came out of it,
Speaker 8: you can't even tell by the video.
Speaker 10: That's crazy.
Speaker 9: That's like the stuff you were talking about on Sean
Speaker 9: at one the other day there Nick with the weather
Speaker 9: balloons going up in the sky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, it was creepy too. I did
Speaker 2: want to mention on the show.
Speaker 4: I think I forgot and I'm not necessarily saying that's
Speaker 4: what it was, but some of the patents that I
Speaker 4: had that, you know, for weather modification, it was like
Speaker 4: a balloon, and then it had like these like kind
Speaker 4: of like the satellite things on it, and it was
Speaker 4: very much like basically what it was drawn. Even in
Speaker 4: the pen looked just like that shit that was in
Speaker 4: the sky when they was swearing China was spying on us.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, that looks just like
Speaker 4: a weather modification balloon as well.
Speaker 8: Well. This thing had things packed whatever, all that debris
Speaker 8: is was packed inside, and that little flashing device with
Speaker 8: a big long antennae on it unpacked when it blew
Speaker 8: up and fell into neighborhood after neighborhood of houses. It
Speaker 8: was astonishing the amount of junk that came out of it.
Speaker 8: I can't really see something there was in.
Speaker 5: The UK Insider that was involved in the experiment simply
Speaker 5: released the name of it, the stratospheric Gosh, Stratospheric atmosphere
Speaker 5: Stratospheric Aerosol Transport and Nucleation Experiment, which is SATAN right,
Speaker 5: And so they the guys just literally leaked out that
Speaker 5: this was the name. They didn't say exactly what they
Speaker 5: were doing, whether modification or something, but it literally says
Speaker 5: transport and nucleation.
Speaker 2: When you need her.
Speaker 5: Yeah, since I don't believe they've they've stopped releasing the
Speaker 5: results of the experiment.
Speaker 8: Well, a bunch of people this last snowstorm collected samples
Speaker 8: and got it tested. There there's some bad stuff in
Speaker 8: the snow. Yeah, in certain places it's just toxic.
Speaker 2: Heard that from a lot of homesteaders.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that made that comment. Yeah, aluminum, um, astrontium. That's
Speaker 10: a lot more beyond that.
Speaker 8: I mean, radioactive material, biological bacteria, synthetic stuff, poisons, metals.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's just like, holy yeah, play some Zeppelin
Speaker 8: for them. Your time is gonna come. I got the
Speaker 8: shooting more bap. This is the most vexing clip I
Speaker 8: ever shot. Used to be back in the day when
Speaker 8: we saw cam trails quite often, we all these little orbs,
Speaker 8: they are little balls of light. This day they were
Speaker 8: all over the sky and I had this cheap crappy camera,
Speaker 8: and my wife said, go get the telescope, and I said,
Speaker 8: I'm afraid by the time I get it set up,
Speaker 8: we'll miss them. So I'm using this little crappy handheld.
Speaker 8: What you're gonna see is one of these little balls
Speaker 8: of light. That last thing that blew up, I thought
Speaker 8: it was one of these, but it wasn't. Anyhow, these
Speaker 8: little skyfish things were flying around. Never saw them before this.
Speaker 8: So this dot of light, which is an orb you
Speaker 8: can see them right there, goes down into the camptrail.
Speaker 8: The camp trails going to left and frame with the wind,
Speaker 8: and this thing flies into the wind. Now at one
Speaker 8: point it's going to shoot two plasma beams into the chemptrail.
Speaker 8: Not kidding you, a ball of light shoots two plasma beams.
Speaker 8: For lack of better description terms, these are just the
Speaker 8: little skyfish things that I never saw before, puzzling all
Speaker 8: over the place. They were white, and they had like
Speaker 8: a weird tail on them that you can't really see.
Speaker 8: This was a terrible camera.
Speaker 2: That is so crazy. Okay, here we go. I think.
Speaker 6: Should I forward it a little bit?
Speaker 8: Not sure yet. I don't even see the orb yet.
Speaker 7: Usually it's more interesting anyway, what you're doing all the
Speaker 7: zooming in and contrast changing. Yeah, because I've got it
Speaker 7: muted and you're probably just talking.
Speaker 8: Forward a little bit. Okay, there it is. So there's
Speaker 8: a little orb right above the chemtrail, just a little
Speaker 8: to the right of center. See the little light dot. Yeah,
Speaker 8: that's an orb, a real orb, and they look like
Speaker 8: little balls of plasma light or something. This thing, like
Speaker 8: the chemtrail, is being blown to the left of frame.
Speaker 8: This thing's going to fall in to the chemtrail and
Speaker 8: then go against the wind. And I'll try to tell
Speaker 8: you as best I can when it's going to shoot
Speaker 8: the plasma beams. But look, it's meandering. It's clearly under
Speaker 8: intelligent control. There's a couple camera. Okay, is this FeAs
Speaker 8: to get ready? Look at it very carefully. You're going
Speaker 8: to see two plasma beams come out of it right there,
Speaker 8: right there. Oh shit, And I think I watched this
Speaker 8: now you can see it.
Speaker 2: See that. What the hell is that?
Speaker 8: It's a ball of light shooting little laser beams.
Speaker 10: Yeah, some Star Wars.
Speaker 8: Shit, we're crying in the beer. How do you describe that?
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's like a drone in this weather modification.
Speaker 8: This has nothing to do with peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
Speaker 10: Definitely not. No, this is definitely jam.
Speaker 8: This is like preserves.
Speaker 7: What's vexting is that you put a circle at the
Speaker 7: place where we don't see it anymore, under the exception
Speaker 7: that that might be a target.
Speaker 2: I had to mess it.
Speaker 8: I was just messing with you. There you go, there's
Speaker 8: a shot.
Speaker 6: I ve us really slid down.
Speaker 8: I mean, how do you describe it? Here's there's more
Speaker 8: to the story. So there were I think many many
Speaker 8: orbs around this one chemtrail, and I zeroed in on
Speaker 8: that one. So I produced this clip within a day
Speaker 8: or so put it up. And from the point I
Speaker 8: put this clip, we never saw naked eye orbs again,
Speaker 8: and they were pretty common before this. So either that's
Speaker 8: a quinkad inc which I don't believe in, but I'm
Speaker 8: just telling you, if you see one of these now,
Speaker 8: it's a rare event with your naked eye, and if
Speaker 8: you can see what it's doing, I almost wonder if
Speaker 8: they can cloak them or whatever. But I mean, come on,
Speaker 8: this is the ball of light literally shooting plasma or
Speaker 8: something into the chemtrail. I mean, what's it shooting at.
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 8: Well, there's another one at the bottom. They're actually in
Speaker 8: this frame. There's another one, and I think it shoots too,
Speaker 8: you just can't see it very well. So is that
Speaker 8: it did? We? Uh?
Speaker 2: Nice?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I mean I don't think there's anything we could bring
Speaker 7: up too quickly other than if I found the vortex one.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think we con heered it a lot.
Speaker 7: But remember there's there's nineteen solar investigation videos on your
Speaker 7: website for members, and the two hour film, and then
Speaker 7: of course all of the clips that.
Speaker 8: Let me explain that, so Crow Triple seven Radio is
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Speaker 8: for that. If people want to say, oh, you're a
Speaker 8: money grubber, let me tell you something. We struggle to
Speaker 8: pay our bills. We're not millionaires. But anyhow, all the
Speaker 8: stuff I put up on YouTube, like the original Lunar
Speaker 8: Wave you guys saw here today, like a year or
Speaker 8: two after it had already been on YouTube all at
Speaker 8: the time, I got a notice from them that they
Speaker 8: have rights to everything ever uploaded their channel, and if
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Speaker 8: None of my work goes to platforms that sensor or
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Speaker 8: conduct ourselves like adults. But all my solar work, all
Speaker 8: of it is on the website for you to members.
Speaker 8: I filmed the lunar wave in front of the sun,
Speaker 8: so now there's a solar wave too, and that footage
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Speaker 8: why we do it the way we do it. To me,
Speaker 8: censorship is the definition of evil. It's not meant to
Speaker 8: protect anyone of anything. It is to control human thought.
Speaker 8: And I got news for the people who think that's
Speaker 8: a good idea. We have all been granted the divine
Speaker 8: spark of life, and with that comes free will, and
Speaker 8: it is the most special gift you could ever be granted.
Speaker 8: And if you want to look at Buddhism or other
Speaker 8: ancient things, they'll tell you gods that don't have free will.
Speaker 8: Just to put a fine point on it, it's to
Speaker 8: control your free will and to reprogram you to censor yourself.
Speaker 8: On the private server, all that stuff is maintained. There
Speaker 8: have been I don't know how many clips to lead
Speaker 8: it off YouTube. Every episode that's been censored to deleted
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Speaker 8: it this way, and that's why the membership that helps
Speaker 8: us support a private server gets free access to everything.
Speaker 8: Thank you very much, because I ain't playing the censorship.
Speaker 2: Gamebly No, I wish I had my own service.
Speaker 8: I conduct myself like an adult. I'm a compassionate individual.
Speaker 8: I don't do harm, so censorship shouldn't be part.
Speaker 2: Of what I do. Oh no, I agree with that.
Speaker 2: Did anybody have any more questions anything? Can you got anything?
Speaker 8: All right, we're in overtime. I think I'm getting time
Speaker 8: and a half.
Speaker 2: Now, right, yeah, yeah, they were even over here.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I was thinking I think we only had
Speaker 4: until nine, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to this.
Speaker 8: What do you mean I'm not getting paid?
Speaker 4: That was volunteer. That's a community service right there. Thank
Speaker 4: you very much for for both of these coming on.
Speaker 4: That was really that was some wild, wild.
Speaker 8: Stuffs, man, she keeps the engine moving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you?
Speaker 6: Really fun?
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, no, it really was that was some that's
Speaker 4: actually I'll actually have to go back and rewatch this.
Speaker 7: It's really cool to talk to people who actually know things,
Speaker 7: and thank you talking to people where it's just like
Speaker 7: their eyes glaze over. And I try to explain this
Speaker 7: to anyone in my family, I just feel like I'm
Speaker 7: going to get, you know, isolated in black sheet even
Speaker 7: more so I try to This is a good outlet.
Speaker 8: Yeah, plug me, I gotta go get my booster shot. Yeah,
Speaker 8: what's wrong with my left eye?
Speaker 10: That gletching out over the check it out magnets stick
Speaker 10: to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh yeah, before we wrap.
Speaker 4: It up, I'll let the other rejects bunch of this
Speaker 4: stuff real quick this time. Jin, since you didn't you
Speaker 4: weren't here at the beginning, everybody you know where they
Speaker 4: could find you.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry about that, And apologies for the technical issues. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we got too much in the polarities and you know,
Speaker 1: the Heavenly host if you want to call it that,
Speaker 1: they didn't like it or or we were just too
Speaker 1: powerful and we, you know, kind of blew them away.
Speaker 8: So I'm just saying, if you're going to say rejects.
Speaker 1: Can happen, absolutely well. We always we always joke about
Speaker 1: writing the polarities on the show. So I think it's
Speaker 1: perfectly perfectly fitting that, you know, a conversation like this
Speaker 1: happens and other things also happen. So it's also very
Speaker 1: uranian to have like an effect on the electronics, right,
Speaker 1: So it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I want to just think and.
Speaker 1: Apologize both to Crow and Rose as well as of
Speaker 1: course Nick, Brandon and Judith for my tardiness.
Speaker 8: I don't know what's going on with me lately. I
Speaker 8: just kind of all over with the place. But thank
Speaker 8: you so much for inviting me on.
Speaker 1: Nick mister ninety three boss of course, Brandon my friend,
Speaker 1: my buddy, my brother, and the Gray Lodge. Of course
Speaker 1: he didn't really know he was getting added, but he's
Speaker 1: part of it now. So Judith, of course, I love
Speaker 1: working with you. Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 1: And Crow and Rose, it was awesome to meet you
Speaker 1: after all these years of like hearing you on other
Speaker 1: shows and like you're show and just like all the
Speaker 1: periphial sort of like interactions we've had. I appreciate it
Speaker 1: very much, and I thought this was a great show
Speaker 1: and a great presentation. So if you want to find me,
Speaker 1: they can check me out at Wucong Reborn to w
Speaker 1: uk and g Reborn or at Threshold Saints on Spotify, Apple, Ig,
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Speaker 1: of the brothers and you can see what we're up
Speaker 1: to on Friday, February thirteenth, which will be will as
Speaker 1: the Cause of Fire, which is an exposition on the
Speaker 1: NASA SETH, which will be aired live on x but
Speaker 1: also recorded to YouTube. So like and subscribe to our
Speaker 1: Great Lodge YouTube channel. Thank you again, amazing show.
Speaker 2: I'll catch the top.
Speaker 8: Fifty that I missed after the playback, and yeah, it
Speaker 8: was amazing. Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
Speaker 8: Have a great night.
Speaker 2: Thank you just appreciate you. Appreciate you making it anyway.
Speaker 1: And likewise, thank you so much. Crow, appreciate it, and
Speaker 1: you Judith, what's going on?
Speaker 6: Guess first, thank you Nick for having me on.
Speaker 3: I'm very happy Crow and Rose. It was a pleasure,
Speaker 3: enlightening and I find the work that you're doing very
Speaker 3: prophetic because how it aligns with spirituality.
Speaker 6: And thank you so much for doing this work.
Speaker 7: I love it, so like I hope that we can
Speaker 7: come back and hear more about what you do and
Speaker 7: just keep the conversation going, because that's what we want,
Speaker 7: is not to just repeat the same thing over and
Speaker 7: over again. But someone on the panel said, you know,
Speaker 7: if we get maybe it was crow, if we have
Speaker 7: more people thinking about things, that will help.
Speaker 6: Move things forwards.
Speaker 7: So we want more people to add their brains to
Speaker 7: the concepts and then help us to shed away that
Speaker 7: which is not true.
Speaker 6: Because the one thing about this.
Speaker 7: Community that I think I would want everyone to focus
Speaker 7: on the most is the ability to let go of
Speaker 7: information once.
Speaker 6: They find out that they made a mistake.
Speaker 7: Because unfortunately, after about ten years, it came to a
Speaker 7: point where people were, you know, they had the truth
Speaker 7: hit them in the face and they ignored it and
Speaker 7: it broke my heart. So I just want to kind
Speaker 7: of want to be a crusader for acknowledging and that
Speaker 7: will be the most heroic thing one can do, is
Speaker 7: when they've made a mistake.
Speaker 2: Thank you both, Thank you both.
Speaker 8: On Judith, did you say where people can find you? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh I'm sorry, Yes, Actually I wanted to just
Speaker 3: not to start another discussion. I just wanted to put
Speaker 3: an air airworm in there for when you do come
Speaker 3: back on Wink Wink, possibly quantum quantum physics. I would
Speaker 3: probably like to talk to you about that and how
Speaker 3: it works within how you go about it. But that's
Speaker 3: just that's a whole different.
Speaker 8: Luke.
Speaker 7: We'll bring back Luke and we'll do an episode with
Speaker 7: him so he can speak directly about that torsion that
Speaker 7: causes the scale or not which causes the periodic table
Speaker 7: of elements which he can match up.
Speaker 8: Oh really, you'll make your head hurt.
Speaker 2: Oh that's exactly what I want.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we love that, definitely love that.
Speaker 8: That's great, Dane, really, but I'm kidding, he's young.
Speaker 2: I was like, he's got bad beat.
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure he's got a driver's license.
Speaker 2: But Judith, real quick you.
Speaker 9: Can.
Speaker 3: You can find me on YouTube as a loon and
Speaker 3: on Access the Loon, and I focus more on mindfulness
Speaker 3: and self awareness. And again, thank you for having me,
Speaker 3: and thank you so much Crow and Rose for enlightening us.
Speaker 8: Oh thank you guys for having us on and in
Speaker 8: the chat. I'm actually going to write the address to
Speaker 8: the private servers so people could come and join us.
Speaker 8: Free speech.
Speaker 2: I'll put it in the chat too. I mean I
Speaker 2: put it in the show.
Speaker 8: I forgot what is that's okay? I think actually six
Speaker 8: sixty six in Hebrew or something, so maybe I did know.
Speaker 8: I forgot the WS.
Speaker 7: I was blown away by the knowledge that Brandon put
Speaker 7: forth tonight as well. I feel like we could even
Speaker 7: do like a Crow episode with all of the guests
Speaker 7: on panel, so much, so much knowledge brought to the table.
Speaker 6: Really cool.
Speaker 4: Thank you, yeah, thank you, and brand One thing I
Speaker 4: was going to say too, if you come back on,
Speaker 4: there's probably more rejects that weren't here than or even
Speaker 4: on the show. So I mean I could even bring
Speaker 4: other people on, you know, bring Judith back, since you
Speaker 4: know should be excited. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: there's even more people here I can bring to the
Speaker 4: table that have different point of views, So we can
Speaker 4: definitely make that work.
Speaker 8: But if you get enough of together regularly, they're no
Speaker 8: longer rejects.
Speaker 2: Exactly there Chod the right direction.
Speaker 8: Fin Anyhow, for everyone listening, I hope we see you
Speaker 8: as members of Crow Triple seven Radio. We truly truly
Speaker 8: protect free speech, and everything we've done from episode one
Speaker 8: is available to members for free, and many people go
Speaker 8: back to episode one and listen forward because there's only
Speaker 8: so many times you can talk about nine to eleven
Speaker 8: or some other thing. But those early episodes, people are
Speaker 8: blown away quite often, and you get shoot the moon.
Speaker 8: And the only access to my current solar work is
Speaker 8: on that website because Google ain't getting its little stanky
Speaker 8: fingers on anything of mine anymore. So if you see
Speaker 8: something on one of these platforms, you're looking at a pittance.
Speaker 8: It's not the meat and potatoes. It's probably not even
Speaker 8: the whole potato.
Speaker 7: You definitely won't see forty four death doors that to
Speaker 7: get it to you an automatically automatic strike.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, we did forty four death doors because at
Speaker 8: that period, you know, cable news was going crazy with
Speaker 8: the death and codes the way they do. Wait a minute,
Speaker 8: we got to stay on a live we're on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't. I don't sense of myself on
Speaker 2: this shit.
Speaker 8: Forty four the alive code.
Speaker 2: But real quick to wrap it up, Randon, please right now?
Speaker 10: Nice? Well, thank you Nick, thank you Crow, thank you Rose.
Speaker 10: You guys.
Speaker 9: I've been waiting to hear and chat with you for
Speaker 9: a long time, so I'm very grateful that you came
Speaker 9: on to not only the cult rejects, but then that
Speaker 9: Nick allows me to come on and also chat with you,
Speaker 9: because the occult rejects are talking to all people, which
Speaker 9: is why I like what Nick's doing so well. And
Speaker 9: it brings people in from the you know, the more
Speaker 9: hated term conspiracy, you know, alternative knowledge, alternative history, all
Speaker 9: the way to the occult style. So some it's a
Speaker 9: beautiful thing. And I just can't thank you enough Nick
Speaker 9: every time we're on.
Speaker 10: Doing this thing, as well as Crow.
Speaker 9: You're kind of one of the goaded uh, You're one
Speaker 9: of the goad notes out there of truthers trying to
Speaker 9: red pill the world.
Speaker 10: So I thank you both so much.
Speaker 8: A goat you.
Speaker 10: You can be whatever animal you want. You can be
Speaker 10: g o a t greatest of all time. Let's do it.
Speaker 10: Thank you.
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Speaker 9: meaning in this postmodern nonsense, and with us all together
Speaker 9: we can break free from the matrix. That's all I got.
Speaker 9: Thank you, Nick, Thank you Crow, Thank you Jin and
Speaker 9: Judith and Rose.
Speaker 10: What a beautiful night.
Speaker 2: Huh nice to meet you.
Speaker 8: Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 6: Yes, don't be a toys r us kid.
Speaker 2: Can we go back to those days?
Speaker 3: I go with it.
Speaker 2: It's a Nintendo game of some shit.
Speaker 8: I drink Doctor Pepper and I'm proud.
Speaker 2: Memories? Man? Fuck?
Speaker 4: Do you too want to just I know you've mentioned
Speaker 4: it plenty of times, but just before we wrap it up,
Speaker 4: do you want to plug everything one more time?
Speaker 8: All right, Rose, you want to do it this time? Crow?
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Speaker 8: Damn, she's way better at that than I am. I
Speaker 8: was just going to say, it's content with balls, and
Speaker 8: then you got like a scrotal lacking. You can go there. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you killed it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's why you need a producer, Carl. That's great.
Speaker 2: That was awesome professional, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: But yeah, thank you both again, and I really look
Speaker 4: forward to having a conversation with you both in the future.
Speaker 4: This was really fun and that was some wild shit
Speaker 4: you brote to the table. So thank you both very much,
Speaker 4: and thank you everybody in the chat. That's what's up.
Speaker 4: A lot of people here, a lot of people chatting
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Speaker 4: next one, everybody be well later.
Speaker 2: I mean