Speaker 1: I'll start Toyota Presents off the bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn. Let's let's go from a championship backfield
to your morning drive.
Speaker 2: Han's day, Hester and Hester got it, Fata.
Speaker 1: You're locked in to off the bench to throw live
from the raising Kine studio. Here's Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3: J Y, Should I say out you okay.
Speaker 4: With her buddy respectfully? No, I just gotta laugh though it.
Oh no, it's not even anything about sports. I know,
I know, I know. I'm sorry, Bud. You know, forty
comes for everybody. It's gonna start to show out by saying,
you know, hurt my back this weekend. Then it feels
absolutely surgical. Got a new chair, brought this one out
of storage, got a little bit more wider bass.
Speaker 2: He's down bad, y'all. We're gonna get through this together. Though.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be all right. Sitting on a throw pillow
right now, Thanks Brian. I didn't even ask him. He
went to the bathroom. I went in when his officing
took it. Well, anyway, we heard back this week, moving
Christmas trees, getting him out of storage. Yeah, I couldn't,
couldn't recruit any of my children to help me. So
we had to do it on our own. Man, I
don't know. Slipped the disc, slipped the spine. I don't
know what I did. I got scoliosis.
Speaker 2: Now you just I don't know. If you just do
the show, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 4: Moments like this, you just realize how fragile life is. Yeah,
sports seems a little less important.
Speaker 2: What day did we do this? Because he didn't say
anything about it.
Speaker 4: This was Saturday, and it's progressive progressively, just gotten worse
throughout the weekend.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's been good. I should have probably rested.
We didn't know. We did a little bit. Yeah, wrestle
a little bit. Okay.
Speaker 4: Kids don't really care though. Yeah, he'll jump on you.
Yeah anyway, we're we're okay. Man, How are you doing
all right?
Speaker 5: Better than you? Apparently better than you. Yeah, tripped over
to Tescal Loosia this weekend. Yeah, yeahs the whole ball game.
Speaker 2: I wasn't Yeah. Yeah, we'll break it down, we'll talk
about it.
Speaker 4: We'll dabble some good, not enough good, some bad enough bad,
plenty plenty of bad. But you know, there was some good.
There was some good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly defensively. Yeah. There was a lot of good
about another team too. Yeah, well by a couple of players,
for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, any who's we'll get there Saints one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that's cool. Yeah, that's why we started with
thes and not the nothing knows. I know they did
they did good. Yeah, they did good. Panthers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Carolina the only place good against good teams. I
don't know how that happens, but it does. How do
you feel about the Like if you're if you're the Panthers,
how do you feel about that loss?
Speaker 2: After?
Speaker 4: Like you gotta winning record, you're kind of like feeling
a little cocky. Just beat the Packers and Lambeau. Then
you lose to the Saints, Like, how do you feel
about that? Because you probably knew this whole time you
weren't that good?
Speaker 5: Yeah the Panther, Oh yeah, we winning some games, we're
pulling them out, but we know that we're not that good. Like,
how disappointed are you after losing to the Saints. It's
gotta be it's bad because your other well, I guess
you did lose to the Cardinals, so I was gonna
say you like your other losses were to the Bills
and to the Patriots, and so you know, you probably like, Okay,
well we'll lose to the good teams, but we'll beat
the bad teams. But when you lose to a one
win team who at the time was one and eight,
probably don't feel great now, I can't. You know, we'll
find a way. We'll find a way to get there
and talk about.
Speaker 2: That through through the back pain.
Speaker 5: Good luck, good luck with me today, land Elandra, Glad
you showed up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you were You're gonna be here.
Speaker 6: It was hard for me to get out of it. Yeah,
I mean I was wrapped up in them blankets. It
was not going anywhere for a minute.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I just put on his jacket and made
my way over here. Anyway. You know, the cold makes
like my bones hurt really bad. So I just I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, y'all do know it's not that cold, right?
Speaker 7: It is cold though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't hear nothing. We we all have been
here down well. I've only been in the South my
entire life, so this is cold to me.
Speaker 7: This is too much for.
Speaker 2: My only anybody who's only lived in Texas.
Speaker 7: I've never lived anywhere else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's forty something, right.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, like thirty all right, it's pretty colder. The
feel like temp is thirty. That's cold created the feel
like temp. What is it wind chill?
Speaker 2: That's a good a good question.
Speaker 7: So it's a wind chill, that's what they call it.
Speaker 2: Sounds question for my buddy.
Speaker 8: But it feels like thirty. Okay, well why can't we
just call it thirty? It feels like it.
Speaker 7: Because the wind is what's making it feel like it's thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well how do you calculate that? That's what I'm saying, Like,
feels like it's science.
Speaker 7: Like, dang, it feels like it's thirty.
Speaker 4: Going to get broken out here, Like when you turn
your fan on in your bedroom, it gets cooler, right,
But it's just circulating the same temperature air. It's not
making the air any cooler. So if it's seventy degrees,
it's just circulated seventy degree air.
Speaker 7: But it feels colder.
Speaker 2: This the movie, I know it feels colder. It's kind
of the same principle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good that's a good thought.
Speaker 2: This is this is a question for my buddy.
Speaker 8: Chatching Like the feels like that is considered so professional
that like weather channels use.
Speaker 7: It because it was wind chill, and now we just
say it feels like. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2: You are throwing a lot of science. I just want
to know what the temperature is. Forty degrees cold? But
is it cold? Is it warm? Or is it hot? Yeah,
that's my three gauges cold. We're looking this up. We're
gonna get to the bottom. How are we doing before
we get to the bottom of this?
Speaker 8: We're doing good. I actually look up feeling good. I
normally don't like the cold weather, but you know what,
it was hot this summer. This is a nice change
for a little bit. I'll probably eventually get sick of it,
since we're just now dipping into the cold. I actually
don't mind it the first time, like ever.
Speaker 2: No, it's great. I love this time.
Speaker 5: This is the first time I think we've been in
here where all of our teams have won except at
so we.
Speaker 2: Can you know a point of him and laugh and it's true.
My team's to night.
Speaker 7: Where did this celebration come from?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Cam Ward started that right, hold on, kim Ward
did it.
Speaker 8: Jackson Dart did it yesterday when he scored everybody.
Speaker 7: Everybody's started for those on radio. I put my hand
over my nose and say, what is it?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Caim Ward started doing it last year
in Miami.
Speaker 5: If I had to guess, Hester Boys, Hester Boys, Hey,
listen up, you are listening. Yeah, are in the car?
You should be at least what is that celebration?
Speaker 2: Hit me up? Let me know. I know what.
Speaker 7: Do y'all know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what y'all knows for sure?
Speaker 7: How it originated with cam Ward?
Speaker 2: That's I'm pretty sure he's the first one to do it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, can we get Cam on the phone and ask him?
Speaker 2: He should be watching tape.
Speaker 8: I was about to say, unfortunately, Cam is not doing
that celebration a ton this year.
Speaker 2: It's very Yeah.
Speaker 4: If I had to just like look at it and guess,
like I played like guess and I'm not say it's
like an elephant.
Speaker 2: No, that's you're thinking way too old and white for that.
I was thinking like ew maybe yeah.
Speaker 5: MC Yeah, I know it's good. But you got a
lot of questions here to start the show. We got
to figure them out. We get to the bottom of it.
We got to get our got healthy over here as well.
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna be today, buddy.
Speaker 4: We guys got to fight through it. I guess what.
It took me about twelve minutes. I walked the stairs.
Didn't take the elevator. You don't take the elevator in
a four story building.
Speaker 5: I had a tight grip on that handrail too, just
real tight in case you take a step and the
pain went through the hamstrings and you just came tumbling down.
Speaker 7: Let one of us know before you came up the stairs.
Why filmed it?
Speaker 2: Because I have done the twelve minute walk when my
back was jacked up to mm hmm. All right, Well,
we asked a lot of questions, didn't get any answers
during that first segment. We'll come back, we'll start to
break down lsu.
Speaker 5: Bama Saints did get a dub, so that is exciting.
Speaker 2: I guess are we excited about it? I know draft
picks the whole deal.
Speaker 4: I know that's the thing. I was watching it. I
was like, do we want to win this game? I
don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm so confused.
Speaker 5: All right, we will step away more OTB when we
come back here live from the Raisin King Studio.
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we get into maybe the nitty gritty and go over
certain plays and certain moments in the game. We all
know by this point Alabama twenty LSU nine, and you
didn't score a touchdown. You settled for a bunch of
field goals, and there was times where you know, you
played inspired certainly that looked a little bit different.
Speaker 2: The defense, my goodness.
Speaker 5: I mean, how many bad situations could they have been
put in and found a way every time but one
situation to come out on the other end of it.
Speaker 2: But you know, still not good enough.
Speaker 5: Obviously, that's why you lose a football game offensively. And
we're gonna spend a lot of time on it today,
just it's just not there.
Speaker 2: And well we'll you know, pick.
Speaker 5: Out individual players and stuff whatever, but just as a whole,
like when you watch it, there's not a lot of answers.
So whatever the test is, I don't know what answers
to give who's on the field to try to pass
the test, and so we'll get to that point.
Speaker 2: But just overall, maybe.
Speaker 5: Thoughts of the game how it went, maybe what you
expected to see to what you saw.
Speaker 4: Certainly a disappointed outcome from the game. Defensively, I saw
a much improved team defensive unit from the last couple
of weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a team.
Speaker 4: That played, you know, I thought that the team, the
effort and everything was there.
Speaker 2: Of course, there's execution.
Speaker 4: You're playing a really good offensive team, so there's gonna
be some that they're gonna make plays, They're going to
do some things. But I think overall the defense played inspired.
I thought they played as a team. I thought they
played as a unit, especially we missing your best guy
on defense, at least on the front seven. Uh, with
what weeks being out, I thought that was I thought
everything there was good. Offensively, I actually thought we did
a couple of nice things, and we can point that out.
We can watch some of them, go to the tape
a little bit and see some things that was a
little bit different than we've seen all season. We did
a couple of extra things. You could tell that some
of these coaches that have been not been able to
call plays or maybe have as much input as they want,
they probably got a couple of wrinkles thrown in there, thrown.
Speaker 2: In there that they've been wanted to do.
Speaker 4: But it's not like in a week and a half
you can go and reset everything and change your complete offense.
And we saw a lot of the same. Now there
was a lot of different Like you look at a
lot of the wide receiver screens that we did. We
actually ran some the right way like when you get
when you get offensive lineman plump and had some success,
and we did a couple of things the right way.
But at the end of the day, there's you can't
call a game full of brand new plays.
Speaker 5: You can't do that. So you do have to go
back to what you've been doing, and you been Yeah,
the foundation of the offense is fundamentally flawed. Yeah, certainly,
without question, no question.
Speaker 4: And there's only there's only so many so many band
aids you can put on it, right, there's only so
many so much lips that you can put on a
pig and it showed its head and it's of course,
if you do that, you can't get anything going. Your
quarterback is it actually made some decent plays early on,
but not not enough. He made some obviously some very
very poor decisions, some very poor plays, and Garrett just wasn't.
Speaker 5: Doing anything to help out help us. Guys out right
made things, made mistakes worse.
Speaker 2: So that's what happens.
Speaker 5: How you get how you get bench and hats how
you get a backup quarterback putting the game.
Speaker 4: So overall, just disappointed watching the game. There was moments
where I mean I thought that it was exciting watching
the game again, though I got really thought that they
were out there and you know, credit to Frank and
the team. I think they I felt like the team
was in a bad such of losing a coach, yeah,
mid season. I thought they came out and played hard
and it was at least entertaining for me to watch,
at least. I don't know about how everybody else felt
out there and seeing a couple of different things, but
towards the end, obviously pissed just like everybody else.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we could go drive by drive, I mean
the first game, first series of the game, I mean,
you stop Alabama on fourth down, you get great momentum
and you actually you drive the ball forty eight yards
yourself and you miss what should be an easy field goal.
And when you're on the road in the SEC and
you're the underdog and you're trying to punch up, you
stop them on fourth down, sudden change and you go
get the ball and drive it.
Speaker 2: You have to get points there. You have to get points.
Speaker 5: You got to change the momentum because if you go
up three to nothing, I know it seems so small,
but it can be so major for you and your
belief and the fight that you have. And so you
missed that opportunity. Well, then the defense comes right back
onto the field and they stop them again.
Speaker 2: They make Alabama punt.
Speaker 5: Okay, Then you get the ball back and it's like,
all right, well we stopped them twice. We had a
nice drive. It just didn't finish obviously with points. But hey,
let's go again. Well then on a third and six
you find a pretty good play. You got a little
screen to the tight end there. It's like, okay, here
we go. It's going to be first down, and Bower
Sharp fumbles the ball same way did against Clemson. Kind
of same situation. Right, gets punched out. All security is
not great. Alabama gets the ball, and so from what
could have been you up three to nothing, You've got
Alabama off the field a.
Speaker 2: Couple of times. You're driving.
Speaker 5: Now it's oh, no, defense, another sudden change, help us
out again, and they do.
Speaker 2: They obliged, they do it. They hold them to a
field goal.
Speaker 5: All right, So you're feeling pretty good about it, all right,
because that could have been a much worse situation. Well,
then you get the ball back and you tie it up, right, So,
I mean, you're doing some things, Matt in this game
where it's not all going your way. You got a
lot of sudden change, you got some adversity. Defense is
helping you out, they're picking you up, they're keeping you
in the game. You actually go down there, even after
a fumble, after a missfield goal, you tie it up
and it's three to three.
Speaker 2: And so you had some moments, but you weren't still
out of it even in the second quarter.
Speaker 4: You weren't out of it until I mean, you were
never out of it till later in the game. But
like the frustrating part watching for me, why I was
so angry at halftime was the poor management of the
game at the end of the first half.
Speaker 5: That was that was actually probably the biggest thing in
the game. It was the mismanagement of time going into half,
and any defensive coach.
Speaker 2: Should be highly upset by.
Speaker 5: That because when you got put in an awful situation
that have never happened.
Speaker 4: Correct me if I'm wrong. We had the ball at
the end of the first half and they had no timeouts, right,
I know they had no timeouts.
Speaker 5: When they had no timeouts, No, they had no time
It was about a minute left. I want to say
there was a minute thirty two, I believe.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you get you get in a situation where
it's third down and that This is the most egregious
part of the whole game, because at that time it
was ten to three.
Speaker 5: You had missed a field goal. Yeah, they it was
ten to three. Yeah, because you made a field goal,
made three to three. They went down, They had a
heck of a drive. It was like seven plays, seventy
five yards, they score, you punt, they missed a field goal,
so it was still ten to three, and then you
had the ball back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So so we we get the ball and of
course you want to try to be aggressive. I mean,
there's no reason not to be aggressive on offense. But
you also have to know it's a ten to three
ball game. Yeah, and you're going into the half and
you get the ball in the second half. So you
go out and you get the third and long because
you got an incomplete pass a throwaway I believe, and
it was an agree.
Speaker 2: You just play that.
Speaker 4: Nussmeyer cannot let happen, and the coaches on the sideline
have to make him aware. So he's got a speaker
in his helmet. This is a situation where whoever's calling
to play in has to talk to his quarterback.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 4: He has to let him know the situation because sometimes
you forget it, especially as a college kid, you forget
these situations. It's third and long, under a minute left.
You snap the ball, Yes, he makes a he does
something like that, and he doesn't see the guy open
early on. Okay, they're dropping I think they're dropping eight
on this point. Yeah, so you get protection. He can't
find anybody open. He could have had his ex receiver
on like a first one to think, fine, miss it
all happens to everybody. Okay, Well at that point, sometimes
a sack is a good play if you take a sack.
That this is what somebody should be telling him in
the huddle or any quarterback.
Speaker 2: Of the situation. Hey, if you have it, take it.
Speaker 5: If not, sack's not a bad play, okay, because your
clock is the.
Speaker 2: Friend right there.
Speaker 4: Take a sack, you run off forty more seconds, you
punt the ball with twenty seven seconds left.
Speaker 2: They don't have time to do that.
Speaker 4: But of course we have to throws it away in
an ugly looking throwaway. If that was any other situation,
that's a fine play. Yeah, it's fine. You throw it
at the feet, it's on intentional grounding. Whatever, lived to
play another day. But in that moment, those are special
situations that you have to work on. You work on
all season. You talk about a billion times in the
film room. And I got to put it on Garrett shoulders,
but I also got to put on the coaches shoulders
who called it in because that was an egregious Even
a running play in that situation would have even been
a better idea.
Speaker 2: Just I get it.
Speaker 4: But it's still over east a minute seven left. You're
out of the playoff picture. Like it's a one score game.
Be aggressive. They had the dig right open backside like
that is fine, but you got to tell a quarterback
check down or sack and it's okay to take a sag.
This is one of those situations that it's a good play.
We'll patch you on the butt when you go on
the side. And if you get sacked right there, because
guess what, we're gonna punt with the twenty seven seconds left.
They're gonna get the ball with twenty one to twenty
two seconds left. Fine, we live to fight another day.
We get the ball in the second half, Well, we
got to punt it to him seventeen to three going
into half now, which should have been could have been
don't miss a field goal. Could have been a ten
to six ball game right there. And then we come
out and kick a field goal I think in the
first drive. Yeah, then you got a ten nine ball game.
I mean, it's uh, it's just those plays like you're
when you're a struggling team that is trying to find itself,
you're trying to go on the road and beat the
four team in the country. Those are mistakes that can't happen.
And they let you. They kept you in the game, Alabama,
let you stay in that game for a long time
for sure. That was the mistake. To me that after
that mistake, going into halftime, I was like, Garret's gonna
have to play flawless if.
Speaker 2: He's going to stay in this game.
Speaker 5: Yep, he's gonna have to play absolutely flawless after that
that mistake right there, that hurt.
Speaker 2: That was it's inexcusable though.
Speaker 5: You did have you had a drive to later and
you're right, like that situation that can't happen. It just
it absolutely can't happen. And that's it's on every level
of football. You have to know that clock situation and
you have to know that no matter what, like you
want to get the first down, but the clock is
the thing that you've got to try to wind down.
Speaker 2: And again, like I can't imagine any.
Speaker 5: Defensive coach was very happy about that because now, like
you know, you get put in a bad situation and
then they go hit one play and all of a sudden,
boom boom, touchdown Alabama. And so then you get the
ball in the second half you mentioned it, and you
open it up and you get a field goal. There
you go eleven plays forty eight yards, take six minutes
off the clock and you again, though you weren't able
to put the ball into the end zone, you had
multiple chances there.
Speaker 2: You're driving the football and just what was it?
Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's first in goal to
nine if I'm not mistaken right, you weren't you run?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You run one yard run up the middle and then
you have an incomplete pass to bury on Brown. So
it's second and goal at the eight. Now it's third
goal at the eight and what do you have?
Speaker 2: Penalty?
Speaker 5: A delay of game penalty? Which how does that happen
in that situation? It can't, it shouldn't. But if it does,
go ahead, time out because you do not want to
back up five yards when you're already in a goal situation.
But you back up five yards and then you get
sacked for a loss of fourteen And there was a
place that you know step up and step out in
that pocket and nuss Meyer was rolling to his right,
tries to reverse field left and you lose fourteen yards there.
So you settle for a field goal in that situation,
and that felt like a big opportunity to go put
it in the end zone. But even after that, your
defense comes back and they force another punt by Alabama.
You get the ball back, you can't do anything with it.
You punt it right back to them, and then your
defense goes out there again and get you the ball back.
There's a great individual play by Harold Perkins. He goes
out there, strips it and recovers the fumble. Well, then
you go nine plays for only eighteen yards, and it
took four and a half minutes to go eighteen yards.
Speaker 2: I'll say that again.
Speaker 5: It took four and a half minutes to go eighteen
yards on the football field, and you settle for another
field goal.
Speaker 2: All right, but okay, not the worst situation.
Speaker 5: It's bad, it's not the worst situation because what'd you
do made it a one score game?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: All right, well then guess what your defense s. I mean,
if you've heard this before, they go help you out again,
and they get the ball back before you again heard
it before, they get it back for you again. Okay,
now you're backed up, but you have one drive down
one score in the game, and you go three plays
one year yard a minute in thirty one seconds. Now
I know you were backed up. I get that, understand that.
But like Matt kind of said, earlier. You're five and three,
you're on the road, you're the dog, you got.
Speaker 2: Nothing to lose. Normal in a normal situation, Yeah, run
it twice. See what you can do.
Speaker 5: Maybe on third down. And by the way, you had
it on third down. You hit tradeds Green right down
the seam and he just dropped it. He just dropped it.
I don't know where that play ends up. I'm sure
we'll show that play today.
Speaker 2: It's going to go for a.
Speaker 5: Long way and again you're down one score. I don't
know where that play ends up, but I would have
liked to find out.
Speaker 2: But you don't you drop would you have? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I would have loved to. You might still be running
and you drop it. And so that was your one play.
That was your one situation. And so now you got
to punt the ball back, Alabama kicks a field goal,
you get it back, sack, fumble, game over. So you
had one chance in the second half, down one score,
and you had to play.
Speaker 2: You had to play, just didn't didn't execute. Yeah. Kind
of the story of kind of the story of the season, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's funny because when vam here and Cream
in the game, first.
Speaker 2: Catch on third down, was it, uh.
Speaker 5: To Thomas like full extension, Yeah, fully like because they
made some really great plays, they made some really good catches.
Speaker 2: Then the one that's just the easy one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you recognizes the pressure throws into the pressure
trade as and it's just one of those man you
just want to have back, but it just kind of
seems nice turned to startup field yep. Yeah, And it
happens everybody at every single level. You turn your head
to see where you're going, and uh, it just stuff.
And I don't even want to say this. It's we
talked about it with the Saints all the time. It's
like that, the type of play, the things that happened
to bad teams LS. She's not a bad team.
Speaker 5: I don't want so, I don't want to say that,
but like it's just when things aren't going right, things
happen like that at the wrong times.
Speaker 2: But it's it's.
Speaker 4: Crazy because there were so many, like really good plays made,
receivers and catches, and then that one, which is you know,
who knows what happens after that, We might trumble the
next player, who knows.
Speaker 2: You just don't know, but you'd like to see that
one be made, certainly so frustrating for LSU fans. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, again, like he had one side of the ball
that I would say, the only time the defense didn't
help you with the sudden change or help you get
back into the situation was right before half. But that
was another situation that they were put in that they
shouldn't have been, like Alabama really had. Outside of that,
they had one seven play seventy five yard drive And
that's a really good offense. And you may play after
play on defense, and man, I'm not saying that you
had to go out there and be the number one
offense in the country by any means, but you've got
to help him out. You gotta throw them a bone
and just certainly not enough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to get more than three kicks to
go through. Yeah, God, that's got to happen. So I
don't know, we'll see where we go from here with
certainly the quarterback position van Buren and he showed a
lot of really good things I thought. Yeah, coming, let
me tell you, coming off a bench is not easy. Yeah,
it is not easy to do. It is hard to do.
You hadn't hadn't had the reps in practice. You come
in the game's cold, you're the only one in the
in the huddle with a.
Speaker 2: Bright white jersey on. It's just a little bit different.
Speaker 4: You hadn't been fighting the battle with everybody, and you
get thrown in there and expect and it's usually in
a bad situation, in a tough situation at least where
you're behind, you have to come back, you have to
make the plays. And I thought he did a really
nice job of coming in there, stepping in, going through
his reads, not second guessing himself. And yeah, I'm sure
it's like when he if he gets to start going
forward or whatever, happens to be a little bit more
accurate with his throws on some of these things.
Speaker 2: But like he got in there and let it rip.
Speaker 4: Man, he was He hit his back foot, went through
his reads and and.
Speaker 2: Delivered the ball.
Speaker 4: So, like I said, I thought he did pretty pretty
darned well in a tough situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of the things that Van Buren last
year he had some big moments. It was being accurate.
That was probably the thing that he still's got to work.
And it's only I think he completed fifty five percent
of his passes last year, So like no surprise, he
used to be great. They did at one time. At
one time it was again, though, I'm not sure who
could be highly successful right now with the foundation of
what they've got going on mat they still they're using.
Speaker 2: A small portion of the football field. Like, I just don't.
Speaker 5: I can't sit here and tell you that I think
anybody would be great. I think i'd be lying to you.
I mean, wool pull up the passing chart yet to
get right.
Speaker 4: You're you're you're absolutely right. The foundation of the offense
isn't great. But there are plays to be made. There's
more than nine points for sure, for sure.
Speaker 5: But again, when you go back and you're watching the
end zone copy and some of the some of the
combinations and some of the things that we it's like,
I just don't know why you're why that why that's
even the end right, I don't. I don't know when
you thought that was a good play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But beyond that, there's plays be made out there, Jake,
And like there is you could win this game with
the offense they threw out there the other day.
Speaker 2: You got to execute it. And you can't have ten penalties.
Speaker 4: You can't jump off sides every single time you try
to get in a situation.
Speaker 5: Now album had two like and one was an egregious.
They tried to the problem.
Speaker 4: Is you could just go out there and execute your
this game plan, which it wasn't great. If you just
go out there and execute this, you got a chance
to win the game. Your defense played well enough, they
made plays in big situations.
Speaker 2: It was fun. That was okay.
Speaker 4: If you could you could even execute this and have
a chance to win this game. They just didn't. Sloppy mistakes.
Stop jumping off sides. I get it. You got a
new you got a new quarterback. In different snapcount. They
had two throws over the middle.
Speaker 2: They went past five years.
Speaker 5: So it's that's nice as much that's not double what
they normally have.
Speaker 2: All Right, we gotta take a break more to be
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Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven. You're
listening to off the bench.
Speaker 9: No one.
Speaker 2: Like when you said your phots on told myself that
you're right, all right, Welcome back in OTB.
Speaker 5: Someone was asking, I think it was Sam mcgump and
the chat what was a combined rushing total one hundred
and fifteen yards for both teams combined.
Speaker 2: Not a stellar day on the ground.
Speaker 5: LSU average two point three yards per attempt with fifty
nine rushing yards, Alabama two point two with fifty six
rushing yards. Not a great day on the ground, but
neither of those teams obviously are anywhere close to leading
the SEC. Both in the bottom half there, Harlan Barry
had a couple nice runs. Yet again he was I mean,
I don't know what it was. He was limping most
of the game, certainly in the second half. He had
a little hitch in his get up, so I'm not
sure what it was there, but.
Speaker 2: Let's just get along.
Speaker 5: Maybe one of the things, I mean, I say, maybe
one of the things they why they went away with it,
but I don't, I don't really know. I'm not really
sure there. But yeah, he's uh, he's a star. He's
going to be a stud. That that guy a second
half run, hate it, hate it. Yeah, he's going to
be so good.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: His patience as a freshman, because normally, as a freshman
running back, what do you try to do?
Speaker 2: You try to do what you've always done. You try
to hit home runs, like you.
Speaker 5: Did in high school, and you know, seventy with every carry,
and you're so impatient and you run up into the
line of scrimmage and you're not even reading it.
Speaker 2: You're just trying to use.
Speaker 5: Your athletic ability to go try to be a dude
and see if you can go break one.
Speaker 2: It never works out. It happens to everybody. Happened to me.
Speaker 5: It's happened to name your favorite LSU running back. Harlan
Berry doesn't have that. This dude is super patient. He
waits to see the crease, and when the crease shows up,
he doesn't question it.
Speaker 2: He just goes. That's the really great thing.
Speaker 4: But when you see a good college running back, you
see him make a decision and go with it. And
and more times than not, the good ones find make
the right decision. Now, sometimes you don't make the right decision.
It's fine, but you if you just hit it one
hundred percent, at least you fall forward. We were talking
about some of the running backs we love watching in
the NFL. It seems like they're always falling forward no
matter when they get hit. They get hit, it's going forward.
They're getting a pile, It goes forward. And it seems
like he's got a little bit of that in him.
But man, you talk about for such a young guy,
he runs mature, He runs patient. He understands the blocking assignments,
he understands who he needs to wait to wait on.
It's like running a It's like what I talk about
high football IQ with wide receivers. They understand what number
in the progression they are versus different coverags.
Speaker 2: They know that against you know, too high.
Speaker 4: They might be number one, they number three, they might
be the number three the three look uh So, it's
just one of those situations where it's just I mean,
it's fun and exciting for LSU fans to be able
to watch him run the football. Yeah, and how we've
gone away from it, especially last game was more egregious
than this Alabama game. When you're averaging seven yards of
carry with him in the first half and I think
it gets one carry in the second half, that was
more egregious. Yeah, you're right, he was. He wasn't fully
one hundred percent in the most of this game. I
don't think. I don't know what happened, But yeah, we
don't love a good second half run here at LSU
yet And let me let me, let me say something too,
because I see a lot of people talking. That's a
lot of people talking about like, yeah, well this is
you know, Frek's chance to you know, prove it and
do all this just same old, same Look what the
job that the coaching staff did, I thought over the
bye week was great, Like.
Speaker 2: You got two choices.
Speaker 4: When when you got a head coach that gets fired,
there's two choices a team can make, and LSU made
the right choice. They just didn't execute right right. They
like the will to want to the desire they came together.
I I saw it like it's not Frank's job to
hold somebody from false starting and ten penalties, right, I
get it it.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a maybe.
Speaker 4: That was a side effect of trying to get the
offensive lineman to play a little bit more aggressive, right,
and to play a little bit more downhill and try
to kick some butt, you know. And then they just
got a little young players on the line. They just
got a little excited, you know. And then you get
you throw the backup quarterback in there, and you got
a different stap count or I guess a clap count
or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: But it's a little bit different. I hate the clap count.
Speaker 4: By the way, if you don't want to jump out sides,
get rid of the clap count because apparently we don't
know how to do it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody knows how to do it.
But the ten penalties are But let's push.
Speaker 4: You must be all like, Frank is the man for
the job right now, he's so don't put any of
this on that staff and what they've done. Yeah, you
could say, same old, same old. All you want to
on offense because the offense has been the weakness of
this team all year long. I get it awesome, all right.
We said last segment, you can't fix everything in a week.
There's foundations that you cake in on that scheme. They
did some things that were really nice that we hadn't
done all year. We got under centered, did a play
action pass, it was great. We moved the pocket a
little bit. We ran wide receiver screens the correct way, right.
We didn't have a crutch of RPOs all the time.
That was the only answer for anything. There were some
things that we did that were implemented, like the further
you got into the game, like there's only so many
so much you can do when the foundation is already set,
so blame what was not what is?
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Speaker 4: Hey, what do we think about that sweet call in
the LSA Alabama game when Van Buren scrambled for a
first as a slid.
Speaker 2: It's dumb. I mean that's a first down.
Speaker 5: If you're like, you know, player safety, it's like okay,
because then he he did like a head first into
the next one and took a shot.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, Well, which one you wanted to do here?
I pick up the first down or you wanted me
to take a shot. Yeah, that was a bad call,
real bad call.
Speaker 4: They started explaining it on TV about like when the
hip drops blah blahh.
Speaker 2: I want to hear Greg explaining an Alabama call.
Speaker 5: Yeah, should have been listening to the LSU Sports Radio Network,
but when he starts a slide, Sure, I got it.
Speaker 2: Just common sense, that's first out. It's common sense, that's
first down.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I mean ten penalties to two that you know,
and look, LSU didn't help themselves, I mean with those,
but like.
Speaker 2: That that was it's a pretty big margin there.
Speaker 5: And then the reviews and was talking about during the
break that LSU had seven like on every play that
was somewhat close.
Speaker 2: And then like there's a couple of plays.
Speaker 5: I was shocked they didn't replace uh, you know, review
and and try to look at the replay for Alabama
a couple of.
Speaker 2: Catches like it might end up that way, But are we.
Speaker 5: Not going to take a look at that after we
just looked at three out the last four plays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 4: They had to make sure LSU was actually making all
those plays. They didn't really care about Bama. I tweeted
out that FBI needs to investigate them. How'd that go
for you? It went pretty good? Tag the FBI. You didn't, sure,
did you tag? Yeah, they're on the case. Don't worry guys.
Oh man, Yeah I did. I had to.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The sliding one was slide. That was a tough one. Tough,
like a lot of investigations out there for betting. Got
some stuff yesterday coming out baseball.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that.
Speaker 5: The catch on the sideline where it looked like both
of them were kind of tied up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's no, it's out though, all right, kid
Speaker 1: Off the bench.