Speaker 1: Inside the Paint Summer edition off season addition, and the
Speaker 1: arrow is pointing upward because you see, guys. On the
Speaker 1: last show that we did, everybody was screaming. But now
Speaker 1: after a couple of offseason acquisitions, everybody is saying.
Speaker 2: I think I'm still saying damn it Bill quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Actually, oh, well, you know what, Cam, we're for the show.
Speaker 1: You know what, Cam, The negativity has no place on
Speaker 1: this podcast. We only talk about winning. Damn sure on
Speaker 1: itp So, okay, well we'll get to the basketball, but
Speaker 1: tell me what's been up with your summers. Cam. You
Speaker 1: said that you coached a kid that involved a minivan.
Speaker 1: Tell that story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, channeling my energy in Beheim. So I'm a golf
Speaker 2: instructor for the five people that care, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And so minivans are staple because our parking
Speaker 2: lot is right next to our driving range. And I
Speaker 2: had a kid the other day and I was going
Speaker 2: all philosophical. I said, yeah, you know, do X, Y
Speaker 2: and Z, you know you should see something else happen.
Speaker 2: And he gets over the ball and he hits it
Speaker 2: just ninety degrees to the right in a Chrysler minivan
Speaker 2: that had been parked probably for four four hours was
Speaker 2: the prime target, and uh it smoked the mini van.
Speaker 2: And then I just looked at him. I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, man, probably time to go work on some body.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of what I've been up to.
Speaker 1: Wow, did you have to pay for the minivan damage
Speaker 1: or did you just?
Speaker 2: No? No, Okay, I mean I didn't. I didn't pull
Speaker 2: the trigger there.
Speaker 1: It was me.
Speaker 2: I mean I was the one guiding the.
Speaker 1: Trigger, honestly perfect. That's what Bill self would do, sir,
Speaker 1: where he paid players and was like, Eh, as long
Speaker 1: as I got car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he called a golf shop. You're like,
Speaker 2: we good, question Mark.
Speaker 1: That's whenever I was fifteen, it was a field day
Speaker 1: at some homeschooled co op that my mom was teaching at.
Speaker 1: So a buddy and I went out in the in
Speaker 1: the parking lot of this big church and we're like,
Speaker 1: we had some golf clubs in the back seat. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna hit the ball, see what happens. And I
Speaker 1: had a drive that clears the field, clears the playground,
Speaker 1: clears the trees, and bam right into a window of
Speaker 1: what else but a minivan in a neighborhood that's just
Speaker 1: sitting there. And yeah, I went, I was fourteen. I
Speaker 1: went and wrote a note and said I did it,
Speaker 1: and uh, and they were very good. Good for you. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I was fourteen. That was pre inflation, being
Speaker 1: bad times. Now, i'd probably whatever on the other way, landon.
Speaker 1: What's been up with you this summer?
Speaker 3: Uh? Nothing so eventful as that. I did break my
Speaker 3: dad's garage door window when I was like ten. Me
Speaker 3: and a buddy were playing tennis ball hockey in the driveway. Uh,
Speaker 3: and he fired a laser beam that I did not stop,
Speaker 3: that was very high and hit the garage window, which
Speaker 3: my dad said, I was just paid her place and
Speaker 3: he definitely did not follow through in that, so I
Speaker 3: got off scott free. There are free lunches kids.
Speaker 2: Hey, have you guys ever like this sad not to
Speaker 2: just derail everything that we're gonna be doing here in
Speaker 2: a minute. Why have you guys ever played home run
Speaker 2: derby as a child and then critically injured your neighbor
Speaker 2: after hitting one over the fence, Because I have, if.
Speaker 1: Not critically to me, critically means like ventilating.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I mean she was elderly, and
Speaker 2: I think I hit her on the back of the neck.
Speaker 1: You know what the funny thing is.
Speaker 2: It was a tennis ball, but it was hit hard,
Speaker 2: and so my buddy looked at me. We literally dropped
Speaker 2: the bat and just ran. Yeah, and it was so
Speaker 2: stupid because it's pretty clear where it came from.
Speaker 1: Well and Cam, you are a fan of a very
Speaker 1: good baseball team. You live in Detroit. You went to
Speaker 1: a game and watch them lose? Landon you and I
Speaker 1: are a fan of a not very good baseball team.
Speaker 1: We've gone many times and watched them lose. I believe
Speaker 1: just about every single time. If not, I think team loses,
Speaker 1: they lose one of their best players get hurt.
Speaker 3: I think I started the year like two or three
Speaker 3: and oh, I went to a couple without you, and
Speaker 3: then we went to one and I think I've seen
Speaker 3: them lose like four of the last five i've been
Speaker 3: to now something like that. It's been awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the win was one. Nothing. By the way,
Speaker 1: that has me do with Gams. With GAM's logic, we
Speaker 1: should start sprinkling some money on the Royals money line.
Speaker 1: Any interest, don't do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might hit twenty more times this year.
Speaker 1: Absolutely no interest in wagering that on. Uh, well, Cam,
Speaker 1: you allegedly have you made any sports bets recently, That's
Speaker 1: what everybody wants to know.
Speaker 2: Well that, yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure our five people
Speaker 2: that listened to you. I went to the game on Friday.
Speaker 2: It was my first Tigers game since I was in college,
Speaker 2: and probably it's it's price since I was eighteen. Ash,
Speaker 2: it's a been a while, and they're they're supposedly good,
Speaker 2: and they sucked. They're playing the Minnesota Twins, and I
Speaker 2: allegedly had a lot of adult beverages and I just
Speaker 2: screamed at the Twins players. We were right behind the dugout,
Speaker 2: mind you. I screamed for about two hours straight to
Speaker 2: go back to the mall, and no one found it
Speaker 2: funny but me. If anybody went, all they have gone
Speaker 2: for him is the mall.
Speaker 1: If anybody wants to see the night that Cam had
Speaker 1: at the Tigers game, go look at the rock chalk
Speaker 1: plug Twitter page. A couple of beers deep. Cam met
Speaker 1: and uh I apparently thought it was gretty, But apparently
Speaker 1: you were apparently nervous that I would get mad at
Speaker 1: you for posting things on the Rock Chalk Blog. I
Speaker 1: don't get mad at you, Camp. I've never been mad
Speaker 1: at you, not once.
Speaker 2: Mmm, well, you know it's the first time for every cam.
Speaker 3: Is that one have waits you at the Pearly Gates
Speaker 3: Grimace with a Mick Ultro in hand?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a I believe it was a course light,
Speaker 2: you know, sponsors.
Speaker 1: How much did that cost you out there at America
Speaker 1: Park six?
Speaker 2: The fact you knew the ballpark name is just Charter Spectrum,
Speaker 2: but I do that.
Speaker 1: I think it was like ten bucks. The Royals are
Speaker 1: there several times a year. Sir, I can name the.
Speaker 2: Ball but it's just like right, I don't know anyway.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, No, it was a lot of we're gonna suck.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try this. Let's see about Charter Spectrum. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna alternate Landon. You can lead us off. Name
Speaker 1: a big twelve basketball arena, Allen Field House, very good,
Speaker 1: camrah Man.
Speaker 2: Isn't a United Supermarkets Supermarkets arena or something like that?
Speaker 1: You go, yeah, very good? The Marriott Center, I believe
Speaker 1: is BYU's home court, Hilton Colseum good. Uh, Bramlage, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I should have taken that one. Let's see, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the penance on the wall, not doing very good
Speaker 1: if we're being honest, Galliberiba, I'll say Galliberia and take
Speaker 1: that one off the board.
Speaker 3: That's six m oh back to me, brand is off
Speaker 3: the board. Oh man, I know, I know, and I
Speaker 3: don't think I'm getting another one. Really honestly, No, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know another one. I thought my
Speaker 3: head I should know West Virginia's, but I don't.
Speaker 1: West Virginia's is just the WVU Coliseum. I think I
Speaker 1: think that's right. Yeah, Arizona's. Arizona's is the McHale Center.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I know the rest. I don't
Speaker 1: know Baylor's. Baylor's just opened. I know what the courts named.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the arena's named. I think I
Speaker 1: should also know Central Florida's. And TCUs was shol My Array,
Speaker 1: but they just opened a new one, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: So maybe you're right, Cam, maybe five years maybe I
Speaker 1: am on right. Yeah, maybe I am Charter Spectrum. And
Speaker 1: you know what, that's fine, because this is inside the
Speaker 1: autism on Rockshok Blogs. We're going to talk about Kansas
Speaker 1: basketball and house Ita doesn't ring as well as ITP.
Speaker 2: I danced around it, and Ryan's like, welcome to Autism podcast.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, it's Spreaker, sir. There's an R in there.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: You may be asking yourself, Wow, that sounds sketchy, and
Speaker 1: is it sketchy? It sure is, But let me tell
Speaker 1: you what it also is seventy two dollars for the year.
Speaker 1: So therefore Spreaker is a friend of mine for this
Speaker 1: hosting website.
Speaker 2: So our net profit is like a dollar at the end.
Speaker 1: Of the all, sir, you think we make seventy two
Speaker 1: dollars in and revenue, it is definitely in the red.
Speaker 1: It is one hundred percent in the.
Speaker 3: Red for the love of the game.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, that's what it is. But this will be
Speaker 1: the year that changes it. We're getting ready to do
Speaker 1: year number thirteen of ITP sounds lucky to me. This
Speaker 1: is it a slash ITP.
Speaker 3: I'm Ryan Landres, I am Landing Fields, and I'm bad
Speaker 3: for some reason.
Speaker 2: I don't have any I don't have anything funny to Samcam.
Speaker 1: We're halfway through the year. The Jayhawks no longer are
Speaker 1: halfway through roster building. We think we have their team,
Speaker 1: and we feel a lot better about it than we
Speaker 1: did a few weeks ago. We're gonna give a lot
Speaker 1: of takes about them, talk about everything that's happened over
Speaker 1: the summer, and that's about it. I still have notes
Speaker 1: from Land and going to Chicago and the notes because
Speaker 1: I don't change these very much from last time. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about Kansas basketball and see where it goes. All right,
Speaker 1: let's do it, Babe. Speaking of mary Land, and you
Speaker 1: told me today that actually just a few minutes ago
Speaker 1: that oh mary is not going to be a Gonzaga
Speaker 1: rival anymore. That tells you how much I've paid attention
Speaker 1: to the basketball landscape.
Speaker 3: What we get one more year, we get one more
Speaker 3: coach k like farewell tour for the great Gonzaga led
Speaker 3: WCC before they joined the Pac.
Speaker 1: Twelve, which is now the Pack Mountain West twelve.
Speaker 3: The Mountain West plus. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's okay. We'll talk about when we get
Speaker 1: to other results. Let's talk about Kansas though. When we
Speaker 1: left you, we were saying, come on, Darien Williams, I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna be a Jayhawk, and then Survey says,
Speaker 1: and then we were like here and then we were like, hey,
Speaker 1: that's okay, because you know we have this this other guy.
Speaker 1: We have Dame Sarr sitting out there. He looks like
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a Jayhawk. Survey says, no, man, it
Speaker 1: did not, Cam doesn't. It does sound like you have
Speaker 1: a catchy little tagline for duke. They just they just duke.
Speaker 1: That's just what they do. They suck.
Speaker 2: You guys should have seen the group chat when that happened.
Speaker 1: Let me it was it was essentially this, But then
Speaker 1: there was me like like that, like the line of
Speaker 1: the Star Spangled Bear it says through the night, our
Speaker 1: flag was still there. There was me holding the Kansas
Speaker 1: flag top of the mountain.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be fun, you guys, Hey, you don't under
Speaker 2: saying Kansas could legitimately have Kansas football run of ten
Speaker 2: years of winning four games per year in Ryan at
Speaker 2: hop on this podcast and with gray hairs in his
Speaker 2: head at age like sixty four and be like, I
Speaker 2: tell you what, guys, they're winning the Big Twelve this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they didn't pick this still so that they
Speaker 1: won x amount of Big Twelve titles back whenever they
Speaker 1: split them into two halves and Kansas got to play
Speaker 1: Colorado and Kansas State every time. Yes, that that was me,
Speaker 1: But my patience was rewarded because Bill self, at the
Speaker 1: eleventh hour went out and scored two pretty nice recruits
Speaker 1: to fill out his roster. Land and go ahead and
Speaker 1: lead us off with a They landed a wing and
Speaker 1: they landed a big They needed both. Some might argue
Speaker 1: they might need even more, but they for sure needed
Speaker 1: the wing and they got him, albeit one from a
Speaker 1: little bit of a of an unexpected and unpredicted place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill self dropping one less recruiting bomb than the
Speaker 3: United States dropped on a RAM this summer on a
Speaker 3: few recruits. Over the course of the early part of
Speaker 3: the summer, Kansas filled its roster with two gets last week.
Speaker 3: Bill self is enriching his roster, if you will, momentarily
Speaker 3: in the months to come. Their first commit came from
Speaker 3: Cole Rosario, a six foot five wing from Miami that
Speaker 3: was originally top three of your crew in the class
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty six. He committed to Kansas and then
Speaker 3: reclassified to join their team for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 3: I've seen some highlights of Cole Rosario, watched a little
Speaker 3: tape if you will. What's the YouTube accessible tape of
Speaker 3: col Rosario? And I want to say two thumbs up
Speaker 3: for me. I like, good player, can shoot threes, athletic
Speaker 3: good in the open floor, looks like a pro to
Speaker 3: be honest, looks like a future NBA player.
Speaker 2: Ask me what his grandpa was doing in the nineteen forties?
Speaker 1: What why? What if he was what if he marched
Speaker 1: with King Cam You don't know that.
Speaker 2: I don't know that, but I'm gonna go out on
Speaker 2: a very white limb and say he did not.
Speaker 1: Well, his name is coal like k o Hl, So
Speaker 1: you know, when was the last time?
Speaker 3: Was gonna be a sign? It's gonna be sat on
Speaker 3: ESPN like at least a thousand times when he makes
Speaker 3: a three.
Speaker 1: When was the last time either one of you stepped
Speaker 1: inside of Cole's?
Speaker 2: Dude, like two weeks ago?
Speaker 1: Wow? Really you shop at Cole's?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I had to get no I mean yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean apparently yes, but we I had to go to
Speaker 2: a wedding and I didn't have a belt, and so
Speaker 2: I just showed up there and was like, hey guys,
Speaker 2: help me out here. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Coles is one of the like two or three places
Speaker 3: that I like are on the short list of I'm
Speaker 3: going to a function that I don't have one piece
Speaker 3: of clothing for, yes, so I will go to either
Speaker 3: like Cole's, J C. Penny or or like Nordstrom. I mean, huh,
Speaker 3: And look.
Speaker 2: Honestly, if you go to Cole's, there's no need to
Speaker 2: do twenty three and me, you're just one hundred percent Caucasian.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then if it might change, but you are
Speaker 3: from you are from Western Europe for yay.
Speaker 1: It's like, let me, let me save you some money.
Speaker 1: So the next time you need one clothing item instead
Speaker 1: of going to those three places, go to Burlington where
Speaker 1: they have the Burlington.
Speaker 3: I only buy soccer on Burlington because it's so much
Speaker 3: cheaper and it's the same quality.
Speaker 1: Yep. Same with shoes. If I need a new pair
Speaker 1: of shoes, Berlin Bill is twenty dollars and they're ugly,
Speaker 1: but I don't care. They can say you're.
Speaker 3: In that case you are a man without taste, but
Speaker 3: that's fair.
Speaker 1: They are cheap, they get the job done. I have
Speaker 1: not been in Cohle's and many many, many moons I
Speaker 1: cannot even remember. My wife likes going there on Black
Speaker 1: Friday because She's like, look, the item that's marked uff
Speaker 1: like by two times is fifty percent off. And I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: I wrote an essay in college about how coals Is
Speaker 1: has been sued to oblivion for taking ten dollars items
Speaker 1: and sticking a twenty dollars but it's half off sticker
Speaker 1: on them. They are That is called toy pricing, and
Speaker 1: they are very much so on the no No Ethic list.
Speaker 1: But you know they have a basketball player that was
Speaker 1: named after them, right, that's what it is. Cam. Your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Cole Rosario Kansas, they didn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of three point shooters. We know that Jaden Dawson has
Speaker 1: kind of thought to be a three point guy, Darren
Speaker 1: Peterson can make some, but they didn't have a guy
Speaker 1: that could come off the bench and be a reliable scorer,
Speaker 1: whether it's a three point shooter or a slashing driver.
Speaker 1: It appears Rosario has the upside to fill that void.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a very bill selfie player, can definitely shoot
Speaker 2: a little bit, spread the floor.
Speaker 1: Pater C see how.
Speaker 2: He fits in, And I think that's a big thing
Speaker 2: with any of these teams in the transfer portal era.
Speaker 2: But definitely someone that we can look forward to hopefully
Speaker 2: provide some offense and not get thrown to the doghouse
Speaker 2: by Bill self.
Speaker 1: So I think Rosario is one of two guys on
Speaker 1: the team that has an incredibly wide range of outcomes.
Speaker 1: The other is Bryson Tiller, who will talk about as
Speaker 1: if if you told me right now that they were
Speaker 1: the ninth guy in the rotation and played six minutes
Speaker 1: a game and number was even less in Big Twelve play,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be stunned. Or if you told me either
Speaker 1: one of those guys was starting Slash a sixth man
Speaker 1: by February a la Christian Brown as a freshman became
Speaker 1: a prominent player for them at the end of that
Speaker 1: twenty twenty season. Also wouldn't surprise me there either. I
Speaker 1: think Rosario has tremendous upside love the ability to shoot
Speaker 1: threes off the bench. That's what Brown did as a freshman,
Speaker 1: and he got lots of playing time. But we've also
Speaker 1: seen young guy that's reclassifying he should be a high
Speaker 1: school senior next year. That's a lot, especially whenever you
Speaker 1: are thrown into a very physical Big twelve conference. I
Speaker 1: think Kansas needs his ability to score at the rim
Speaker 1: more than the three point shot, considering the way the
Speaker 1: rest of this lineup is constructed. If he is a
Speaker 1: Christian Brown caliber freshman where he can shoot the occasional three,
Speaker 1: but he also is a threat to drive and get fouled.
Speaker 1: I think that plays into the way this team wants
Speaker 1: to play a lot better. Ultimately, I don't have a
Speaker 1: ton of confidence that he's gonna play a lot this
Speaker 1: year unless he simply forces Bill Self's hand. But he
Speaker 1: is right up the recruiting boards quickly and landon. You said,
Speaker 1: he does truthfully have NBA upside with how athletic he
Speaker 1: is and how he can shoot the ball. So we'll
Speaker 1: see if I told you right now barely plays or
Speaker 1: becomes the sixth man and is a key, key contributor,
Speaker 1: which of those two camps would you put your hat
Speaker 1: in with this guy?
Speaker 3: I well, so, normally we make jokes about Bill Self
Speaker 3: playing freshman or trusting freshmen to play in a Bill
Speaker 3: Self system, which is often true. This team is so young, though,
Speaker 3: and there are a lot of freshmen. There are a
Speaker 3: lot of young guys and very little experience to be
Speaker 3: had on this team, so I think.
Speaker 1: They, especially with the reserves, like especially like their entire
Speaker 1: red team and scrimmage is basically freshmen and sophomores that
Speaker 1: barely played as freshmen.
Speaker 3: Correct, So I would lean play Cole Rosario a lot.
Speaker 3: I would lean he will be a key contributor after
Speaker 3: I watched five entire minutes of highlights, and I don't
Speaker 3: need the pat on the back. It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3: I know I put in the work. I put in
Speaker 3: the work. It's okay.
Speaker 1: I as he dunks on all those those future uh
Speaker 1: investment bankers that are gonna go get D two scholarships, Yes,
Speaker 1: all start in the making camp.
Speaker 3: I'm starting.
Speaker 1: So okay, that's a take. Well, i'll ask your starting
Speaker 1: five here pretty soon. You would start him on opening
Speaker 1: night against I guess not Doug Gottlieb's Green Bay team,
Speaker 1: whoever the hell their first marque opponent is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would throw.
Speaker 1: You would throw them right out there, land and like
Speaker 1: sight unseen.
Speaker 3: Uh, yes, yes, because I would bet on the talent
Speaker 3: on this team. And I do think so many of
Speaker 3: these young guys are really, really talented, and I would
Speaker 3: want the most talented lineup out there from day one.
Speaker 3: I'm going with our tried and true strategy that Bill
Speaker 3: doesn't never, does not ever agree with, which is I'm
Speaker 3: gonna play young guys early. I'm playing my most talented
Speaker 3: guys from the jump, with the hope that by mid
Speaker 3: February it's a really, really coherent unit that is now
Speaker 3: also is talented and can play together. Uh so, yeah,
Speaker 3: I would, I would. I would throw him out there
Speaker 3: right away.
Speaker 1: Seems to be quite a reasonable take. Now, let's go
Speaker 1: live to Landed in February as al Marco Jackson is
Speaker 1: starting over Jaden Dawson despite it being completely stupefying.
Speaker 2: Marco is averaging four and five and he's playing forty
Speaker 2: minutes per game, right, and.
Speaker 1: You got six percent from three. That's my prediction. By
Speaker 1: the way, that's the move that everybody knows. Jaden Dawson
Speaker 1: should start over El Marco, and he won't because of Bill.
Speaker 1: That's the Bill Self move of the year for this year.
Speaker 2: And then and then you go on Twitter or excuse
Speaker 2: me x, and there'll be people like, well, you don't
Speaker 2: know more than a Hall of Fame coach, I don't understand.
Speaker 3: Every year that we do.
Speaker 1: Okay, Cam, tell me about the other guy. They added
Speaker 1: They needed a wing, they needed a big. We talked
Speaker 1: about the wing and now they got a big. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm an idiot. I thought this student was from Africa,
Speaker 2: so I tweeted out Bill, sof's a wizard at getting
Speaker 2: big men from Africa.
Speaker 1: I deleted an He's technically is like he is.
Speaker 2: Congo's not the quote Joel embiid or anything, but yeah, no, no.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Paul Imbia, who's a twenty year old that will enroll
Speaker 2: as a college freshman after playing professional basketball in Congo.
Speaker 2: He is six ft ten to two hundred twenty pounds
Speaker 2: with a seven foot seven wingspan, meaning that he will
Speaker 2: not only be flour but doing his backup at the five,
Speaker 2: but he will also allow Kansas to play with both bigs,
Speaker 2: so Bill self can get his pre Martin Luther King
Speaker 2: Civil Rights are offense rolling to lose to Houston by
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 1: I don't think they go to Houston this year. I
Speaker 1: think the game's at home. So although only loves by
Speaker 1: like nine.
Speaker 2: But lose four points and they'll blow like a five
Speaker 2: point lead.
Speaker 1: This is a huge piece for Kansas and I've seen
Speaker 1: all sorts of comments on Twitter. I've seen some people
Speaker 1: say that Mbaia is gonna start at the four. I've
Speaker 1: seen other people say that he legitimately could push Flory
Speaker 1: for starting playing time. I could see a scenario where
Speaker 1: Flori starts slow and self says, you know what, Land
Speaker 1: and Lucas get out there and start over. Are more
Speaker 1: talented bigs because you're more experienced than whatnot. Even though
Speaker 1: he's just a freshman, I know he's twenty. I also
Speaker 1: think that this move allows Kansas to have a Tark
Speaker 1: Black caliber player come off the bench whenever there's foul trouble.
Speaker 1: Here's a guy that can give you five thousand be
Speaker 1: a professional rebounder out there. This is what this team means.
Speaker 1: They really really struggled outside of one player rebounding the ball.
Speaker 1: Last year, Kansas's starting center was an excellent rebounder. No
Speaker 1: one else on the team was particularly good at that,
Speaker 1: at least among the guys that played around the basket. Well,
Speaker 1: now you guarantee that your starting five is not going
Speaker 1: to be your only good rebounder in the front court.
Speaker 1: And Baya is a huge get for Kansas. Bryson Tiller
Speaker 1: makes his playing time really interesting because there is definitely
Speaker 1: a scenario where Mbaia plays third By a long shot
Speaker 1: of the three guys that are going to get front
Speaker 1: court minutes. There's also a scenario where I think he's
Speaker 1: pushing Flory for statistically the best numbers on the team
Speaker 1: for a center and could be in sixth Man of
Speaker 1: the Year discussion. Landon what say you?
Speaker 3: I think Kansas's front court is really really interesting and
Speaker 3: really really talented because Florie we have touted and I
Speaker 3: still very much believe is an NBA prospect, and Baya
Speaker 3: is also probably an NBA prospect. He is twenty, which
Speaker 3: hurts that a little bit, but he is very talented.
Speaker 3: Watching also, you know his five minutes of highlights. I know,
Speaker 3: I know, I'm just built different. I am that guy grinder.
Speaker 3: You can see the talent though it is obviously you
Speaker 3: can see the guy knows how to play basketball. He's
Speaker 3: very good at it. There's a little bit of rawness there.
Speaker 3: But again, I mean he's twenty years old, so this
Speaker 3: is he doesn't have that like the thing that Rosario
Speaker 3: has is he's very young and he is very polished.
Speaker 3: But like you're kind of alluding to Ryan, like you
Speaker 3: see this sometimes even for good players you come in,
Speaker 3: you reclassify your young the physicality can get to you,
Speaker 3: the speed of the game can get to you. You know,
Speaker 3: there is an adjustment period there, and Baya might not
Speaker 3: have that nearly that because he was twenty, he's played
Speaker 3: through basketball in the Congo. He might have a little
Speaker 3: more polish in that respect, a little more poise in
Speaker 3: that respect. And then Bryce and Tiller, I think is
Speaker 3: also a really interesting prospect that has a really interesting
Speaker 3: skill set. True is very fast, can handle the basketball.
Speaker 3: So I think this front court is is kind of fascinating.
Speaker 3: And there is a world in which all three of
Speaker 3: those guys play a lot and are all good.
Speaker 1: So we look at the roster last year and I
Speaker 1: wanted to see the specific bigs that they had last year. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson was your starting five, and he was an
Speaker 1: All America caliber statistical player. He played plenty. kJ Adams
Speaker 1: was your starting five, not the most traditional role for him,
Speaker 1: but he played plenty. Then you had Flory, who was
Speaker 1: your best freshman, was a center. You had Zach Clements
Speaker 1: who didn't play very much but was still a six
Speaker 1: foot eleven guy that came off the bench until he
Speaker 1: got hurt at least. And then there were a handful
Speaker 1: of other guys that people thought Kansas should play at
Speaker 1: the four to play small, so they had a lot
Speaker 1: of different names that shuffled into that rotation. And on
Speaker 1: top of all that, you had an established five men
Speaker 1: who you knew was getting thirty minutes a game. That's
Speaker 1: a logjam of front court players. This team seems to
Speaker 1: be quite the opposite. You have Flory, who we anticipate
Speaker 1: being really good, but he's never been a full time
Speaker 1: starting center yet and could still be quite raw. Then
Speaker 1: you have him Baya, who is twenty but he's a freshman,
Speaker 1: and you have Tiller, who is as big of an
Speaker 1: unknown as anyone on the team, with a huge ceiling
Speaker 1: and also a pretty low floor. At this point, just
Speaker 1: three guys are gonna compete for what figures to be
Speaker 1: eighty minutes a game until Bill self decides that he
Speaker 1: wants to play a small lineup with a wing at
Speaker 1: the four. That's a lot of playing time to go
Speaker 1: around for these three guys, even.
Speaker 3: If he getting probably gonna play some of those four
Speaker 3: minutes as well.
Speaker 1: Exactly in Trey White figures to probably if I'm guessing
Speaker 1: open the year as the starting four, right, that's probably
Speaker 1: who they're gonna start with probably probably.
Speaker 3: Although now Trey White is my prediction for we're screaming
Speaker 3: at Bill in late January for playing Trey White over
Speaker 3: Bright Tiller, who's obviously more interesting and more talented.
Speaker 1: Now that right there is interesting. Let's talk about the
Speaker 1: rotation here because now we can get in all of
Speaker 1: the takes because Kansas does have one open scholarship right now,
Speaker 1: they have twelve players that are currently on scholarship. It
Speaker 1: remains to be seen if they'll use it. Regarding their rotation,
Speaker 1: you have Darren Peterson, Melviyn Counsel, Elmarco Jackson, Jaden Dawson,
Speaker 1: Trey White, Florie Badounga, and Paul and Baya. Those will likely,
Speaker 1: at least to start the year, be your starting five
Speaker 1: and your first two guys off the bench. The rest
Speaker 1: of the roster is consisted of col Razzario, Jamari McDowell,
Speaker 1: Bryson Tiller, Samus Calderon, and Corbin Allen. And the Noah
Speaker 1: Shelby is also here. Calduran, sorry, Calderon is what they
Speaker 1: call a volcano that is called Auron. That is very different. Yes,
Speaker 1: so that's a lot of names here. People said, oh,
Speaker 1: this team doesn't have any talent before. Like the last week,
Speaker 1: I count five McDonald's all Americans right there. They have
Speaker 1: plenty of talent on this roster, and I think they're
Speaker 1: going to be slept on the open the year. You
Speaker 1: have the number one pick in the twenty twenty SI
Speaker 1: six drafts sitting there as your engine, and a lot
Speaker 1: of guys that play the brand of basketball that your
Speaker 1: coach has won so much coaching guys play that way.
Speaker 1: But who knows how any of the pieces will work.
Speaker 1: I think the only guaranteed piece right now, we know
Speaker 1: Darren Peterson is going to be the team's point guard
Speaker 1: and is going to play thirty five minutes a game
Speaker 1: and is probably going to lead them in scoring. That
Speaker 1: is the only thing we know about this roster.
Speaker 3: I uh, oh, well, okay, can I can I give
Speaker 3: my first potentially hot take? I want to give my
Speaker 3: starting five? What I what I would start?
Speaker 1: Of course? Okay, A lot I ask RCBS about this too.
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, obviously it's Darren Peterson. Darren Peterson's
Speaker 3: your one. I would start Melving Council. I think that
Speaker 3: makes a ton of sense, and I would start Florid Badunga.
Speaker 3: Then I would start Cole Rosario and Samus calderone wow
Speaker 3: as what my two?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: And my three?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 3: Well, counsel council is your three. I would start Rosario
Speaker 3: with the two, council three, Calderon's your four, and Flora
Speaker 3: is the five. That's that's what I would try it
Speaker 3: out there in game one. All right, that's the most talent.
Speaker 3: That's the most talent you put on the floor once.
Speaker 1: I think Calderon as your starting three man.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean he's he'd be like a three four.
Speaker 3: I don't think he doesn't. I don't think he grades
Speaker 3: out as like an elite three point shooter, but he
Speaker 3: can shoot the three, uh and knock that down, and
Speaker 3: he's great in the open floor, and he's very athletic.
Speaker 3: I would I don't know if he can play like
Speaker 3: a defense or anything, but I would. I would try
Speaker 3: him out there as the four. I think that's the
Speaker 3: most raw talent you're putting on the floor once. And
Speaker 3: and Tiller uh is one of the first guys off
Speaker 3: the bench with probably Jayden Dawson. So that that would
Speaker 3: be like my top seven.
Speaker 1: So your top seven does not include el Marco Jackson.
Speaker 1: It does not include Trey White, and it does not
Speaker 1: include Paul and Bya on pure vibes.
Speaker 3: No, all those guys could absolutely be very playable players.
Speaker 3: And also, like Imbaya is kind of by default your
Speaker 3: backup five, so it doesn't really matter where I would
Speaker 3: quote unquote have him in the depth chart because he's
Speaker 3: two behind Floria at the true set.
Speaker 1: He's never playing with Flori, and he's never playing minutes
Speaker 1: that aren't at the five, so therefore he plus Floria's
Speaker 1: forty minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he almost certainly, almost certainly they could play a
Speaker 3: little small maybe if they wanted and play like Tiller
Speaker 3: at the five. I don't know if they're ever ever
Speaker 3: going to do that. I wouldn't. I would doubt that,
Speaker 3: but yeah, so and by it might be by default
Speaker 3: like you're sixth or seventh just because of that. But
Speaker 3: I yeah, I would have DP, I would have Colorsario,
Speaker 3: Melvin Council, Sam's Calderon and Flora Doonga.
Speaker 1: That is wild, not at all what I expected. Some
Speaker 1: of it is, some of it is not. Caym, what's
Speaker 1: your starting five right now?
Speaker 2: All right, Darren Peterson obviously Floria Badonga and then we know,
Speaker 2: damn well, Bill sup will start el Margo Jackson. So
Speaker 2: he's playing, okay, he's in the certumatic he's going to
Speaker 2: start most of the games this year. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: He's gonna play. Okay, it's a check off the list.
Speaker 2: So after that, I'm gonna go ahead and say we
Speaker 2: got two spots left. I'm gonna throw Melvin Council in there.
Speaker 2: He's a very Bill Selfie player. And then one last
Speaker 2: spot to Phil. I'm gonna guess, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna guess we're gonna go with God do
Speaker 2: I say Bryson.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I'm just gonna throw Bryson Tiller. Nah,
Speaker 2: he's not gonna play that much earlier.
Speaker 1: In the season.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting. I could be serious. I could
Speaker 2: be very I could see billsov running out like a
Speaker 2: four guard lineup start out the year, although he hates
Speaker 2: that he'll have a brain ANDWSM Maybe maybe Paul and
Speaker 2: Baya that'd be my other player, That's my guess.
Speaker 1: I could totally see a scenario where Bill self is
Speaker 1: starting Paul and By at the four and Jamariy McDowell
Speaker 1: at the two to start the year, like like just
Speaker 1: a tinker with lineups. Couldn't you see that?
Speaker 3: What do you What do you think? Ryan? What's your
Speaker 3: five right now?
Speaker 1: I mean Peterson at the one and but Doune got
Speaker 1: the five or easy. My two man is not even close.
Speaker 1: My two man is is Melvin Counsel. I think Melvin
Speaker 1: Counsel is going to be an All League contender. I
Speaker 1: love the vibes he brings this team. I think he,
Speaker 1: not Darren Peterson, will be this team's vocal leader. I
Speaker 1: think he is going to play in a way like
Speaker 1: ty Sean Taylor and Elijah Johnson did side by side
Speaker 1: to each other. I think he's going to be the
Speaker 1: Elijah Johnson to the Darren Peterson's Tychean Taylor. And people
Speaker 1: remember Elijah as the point guard that cost that team
Speaker 1: a lot as a senior. Remember Elijah as a junior
Speaker 1: on the National Champion runner up, was that team's best
Speaker 1: three point shooter. He was their most accurate three points
Speaker 1: or their highest volume three point shooter. He was a
Speaker 1: slashing wing that defended at an all league level, and
Speaker 1: he could handle the ball better than almost all the
Speaker 1: other twos in the league because he had point guard experience.
Speaker 1: That's the sort of thing I think we're gonna see
Speaker 1: from counsel. My three is absolutely Jaden Dawson. I think
Speaker 1: Dawson one of the guy.
Speaker 3: Dawson is the guy that Cam and I are sleeping
Speaker 3: on for sure.
Speaker 1: Yes, Dawson has is this team's best three point shooter.
Speaker 1: If he is not their best three point shooter, it
Speaker 1: is because somebody else had a terrific jump as a
Speaker 1: that we're not expecting. Dawson has to play more than
Speaker 1: el Marco Jackson. I reserve the right to take it
Speaker 1: all back if al Marco winds up being this All
Speaker 1: League player, right, Yeah, but I don't think self's gonna
Speaker 1: do that. And the fourth spot is really interesting Landon.
Speaker 1: I want to say Tiller. Tiller is the most slept
Speaker 1: on player on this roster. I think because we don't know,
Speaker 1: we do not know anything. This is a McDonald's All
Speaker 1: American who has already spent a semester practicing with the
Speaker 1: team but has been hurt, and we just have no
Speaker 1: idea what that's gonna bring. I would start Trey White
Speaker 1: to open the air, but that's easily the least safe
Speaker 1: of the starting five spots for me, and I'm not
Speaker 1: hesitant to pull the trigger and get Tiller out there
Speaker 1: if he plays really well early on. I don't know
Speaker 1: how quickly the diapers are gonna come off if you
Speaker 1: will for Tiller, considering he hasn't been playing competitive basketball
Speaker 1: for a year and a half now, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be like, hey, Duke North Carolina and the players Era
Speaker 1: tournament to start, go get him, buddy, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how that's gonna work.
Speaker 3: A side question here related how many pros are on
Speaker 3: this roster?
Speaker 1: Oh, Peterson Flory last year? Well, yeah, Peterson would would
Speaker 1: get it somebody, even though Hunter Dickinson is technically a pro.
Speaker 1: Right now, Peterson get out of here. I think there's three.
Speaker 1: I think there's Peterson. I think there's uh Flory and
Speaker 1: somebody else, whether it's Rosario or Tiller or one of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, I you could talk me up to like five.
Speaker 1: Wow, and by it might be an NBA player.
Speaker 3: And I maybe maybe I'm going absolutely crazy with Tiller
Speaker 3: and Calderone, but I really like what I see from them.
Speaker 3: They are really smooth players. They look very comfortable, and
Speaker 3: they have a really interesting skill set, and they're athletes
Speaker 3: and that a long way.
Speaker 1: I think Calderon has an opportunity to be like a
Speaker 1: freshman o Chaya Baji in the sense that he didn't
Speaker 1: do anything because he was redshirted, I guess for the
Speaker 1: first couple of months, and then whenever a need for
Speaker 1: him came in. He kind of plays the way that
Speaker 1: this team really needs guys to play. So the opportunity
Speaker 1: for him to step in after not contributing a whole
Speaker 1: lot and being a valuable player seemingly out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna have seen it coming for a while.
Speaker 1: Unlike the unlike, a lot of people are gonna be like, wow,
Speaker 1: I just came out of nowhere. I think that's on
Speaker 1: the table. But I think for Calderon to play substantial
Speaker 1: minutes unless he is just legitimately volcanic as as a
Speaker 1: freshman early on and forces Bill self's hand, I think
Speaker 1: the only way that Calderon plays a lot is if
Speaker 1: a lot of guys suck in front of him.
Speaker 3: He died plausible.
Speaker 2: Sorry, boys, I just about died eating watermelon. But I
Speaker 2: think that is correct. That's all I had to add.
Speaker 2: I was just trying to get those words out of
Speaker 2: my mouth, and I've out and died. Carry on Ryan.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 1: I'm good to your head, speaking of being alive, gun
Speaker 1: to your head. Who will Bill self start in game one?
Speaker 3: Darren Peterson, Melvin Counseled, Jaden Dawson, Trey White, Floory.
Speaker 1: You think Dawson starts?
Speaker 3: Uh? Actually, can you say no?
Speaker 2: No? Al Marco is gonna start one hundred. It's like
Speaker 2: a make a wish kid. Bill Soof's like, dude, you
Speaker 2: tore your achilles, whatever the heck you did. Just play.
Speaker 1: What does l Marco Jackson do better than Jaden Dawson?
Speaker 2: Nothing, but he's gonna play because Billsoft feels loyal to him.
Speaker 1: With el Marco Jackson, I think that we also don't
Speaker 1: know There's there's a lot of guys on this roster
Speaker 1: that I feel like this team is constructed well for
Speaker 1: them to get a shot. Example, Cole Rosario and Bryson Tiller.
Speaker 1: Their positions are not stockpiled with depth. The depth that's
Speaker 1: there is not proven one talent, and they have a
Speaker 1: ton of upside. So if they're good, there's not a
Speaker 1: lot in between the court and the bench for them.
Speaker 1: They're going to play. Al Marco Jackson is a natural
Speaker 1: point guard. Well, the number one pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six NBA Draft is playing point guard for this team.
Speaker 1: So Almarco's gonna have to play the.
Speaker 3: Combo guard or or a wing to el Marco plays
Speaker 3: point guard.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that can't happen. I will drive to
Speaker 1: Allen Field House like that one dude that broke into
Speaker 1: the dorms and tried to take some out of throws.
Speaker 1: No that that if el Marco. You know what, remember
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago for a Royals analogy, when
Speaker 1: the Royals were like, hey, Bobby Witt, let's practice third
Speaker 1: base because we have Bert Mondsey over here that's got
Speaker 1: short scot nailed down. And we all knew that was
Speaker 1: as nine. If if Bill Self's like, hey Darren, why
Speaker 1: don't you play off the ball a little bit? Just
Speaker 1: go stand there, catch and shoot, because elm Marco's.
Speaker 2: Gonna Harris hold on, Ifdwan Harris had an extra year
Speaker 2: of eligibility, you think Bill using him to around the
Speaker 2: point and putting Darren Peterson in his shooting guard.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I do, yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: No, I have so many comments I want to make
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: No doubt I also think Bill self knows ball. So
Speaker 1: I would like to think that he wouldn't put his
Speaker 1: number one point guard prospects at the two guard for
Speaker 1: Dewan Harris. But you know what, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think he would.
Speaker 3: I think he would play dew One Harris at the one.
Speaker 3: Where is this team ranked to start the season, That's
Speaker 3: that's a great question. My roster knowledge is low because
Speaker 3: it's June thirtieth as of recording across college basketball. This
Speaker 3: feels like a top fifteen, top ten.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say nine, Like nine or ten feels like,
Speaker 1: well they'll start, but I think the arrow, unlike the
Speaker 1: last two years, is pointing up.
Speaker 2: I agree, I'd say like twelve and aso.
Speaker 1: So like if they're ranked eighteen or whatever, fans are
Speaker 1: gonna get all pissy on Twitter. The same fans who
Speaker 1: are like, why are we ranked one again? This is
Speaker 1: so much pressure.
Speaker 2: I say, rank them one hundred and forty after the
Speaker 2: last few years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that and like that is going to be
Speaker 1: a factor too. There will be people that want to
Speaker 1: rank them like eight, and they're like, well, last ten years,
Speaker 1: I better move them down just so I don't look
Speaker 1: like a dumbass again. Like that's going to happen.
Speaker 3: Definitely, and I think that they do. I do think
Speaker 3: the difference here is that this team has a lot
Speaker 3: of un This team does have a ton of unproven talent.
Speaker 3: I personally am just very high on a lot of
Speaker 3: the unproven talent on this team, and I think the
Speaker 3: plug and play type guys your counsel's Dawson White, I
Speaker 3: also think, have a much more clearly defined role and
Speaker 3: skill set and fit a lot better within within the
Speaker 3: system and within what this team I hope plays like.
Speaker 1: Well. In this team. You know, the last couple of
Speaker 1: teams that were ranked one in the preseason, teams that
Speaker 1: both got off to great starts. They both had great
Speaker 1: Novembers despite everything falling apart after Christmas time. We knew
Speaker 1: exactly what that team was going to play like, and
Speaker 1: we knew what would make or break it. We knew
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson needed to be an All American. We knew
Speaker 1: Dwan Harris needed to be an All League point guard,
Speaker 1: and we knew that kJ Adams needed to be an
Speaker 1: All League caliber player. We knew that everything else around
Speaker 1: them just needed to be good enough. In the end
Speaker 1: of all those things, Hunter Dickinson was the only one
Speaker 1: of any of those groups that lived up to the
Speaker 1: on paper expectations, which is be an all league caliber player,
Speaker 1: and there would be plenty of people that would tell
Speaker 1: you that the stats didn't tell the full story with
Speaker 1: how much of an impact he made on the team.
Speaker 1: So nobody exceeded expectations. This year's team, I think there
Speaker 1: are so many more combinations. There's so many more possible
Speaker 1: roads for them to get to the finish line as
Speaker 1: a top two seed in the NCAA Tournament, or as
Speaker 1: a Big Twelve champion or second in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: I think that there's a scenario where Darren Peterson is
Speaker 1: Trey Young and he wills them into a top four
Speaker 1: seed with everyone else being lousy. I think that's on
Speaker 1: the table. I think Melvin Counsel being an all league
Speaker 1: caliber player and being a hell of a robin to
Speaker 1: Darren Peterson's batman is on the table. I think Bryson
Speaker 1: Tiller and Paul Embaya not necessarily the most household names,
Speaker 1: yet showing their immense upside and giving huge lifts off
Speaker 1: the bench wins them enough games. Yet in there, I
Speaker 1: think there's so many pass this team could take. The
Speaker 1: success that I feel better about their ceiling than the
Speaker 1: last couple teams. I also feel like their floor could
Speaker 1: be lower, which feels weird to say because last year's
Speaker 1: team was a seven. But I think that a rocky
Speaker 1: start wouldn't surprise me at all for this team, especially
Speaker 1: considering who they're playing in the month of November.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I do think that this is a
Speaker 3: little bit of a choose your own adventure right now,
Speaker 3: more than more than normal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 3: Because this team is really young. And also even in
Speaker 3: the before times, Bill self was like not all over
Speaker 3: the place, he still won Big twelve titles, but like
Speaker 3: he was a little shakier with with young teams. You
Speaker 3: could you could see the growing pains a lot more
Speaker 3: in real time with the really young teams that he had,
Speaker 3: particularly like the Wiggans year and like fourteen fifteen two
Speaker 3: teams that were like their depth was young and.
Speaker 1: Lost four times in non con play, still the most
Speaker 1: that any Kansas team the last quarter century has lost.
Speaker 1: Before we started Big twelve play and then January and
Speaker 1: February all around and the team started cooking til Joel
Speaker 1: Embid hurt his back. I think that path right there.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say the ending is fair because
Speaker 1: in Bed got hurt and the team fell apart or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I think thirteen fourteen Landon is a really really
Speaker 1: good blueprint for what this team could look like, really
Speaker 1: shaky early on against a tough schedule, as your number
Speaker 1: one overall draft pick leader tries to get used to college,
Speaker 1: still puts up really good staf but the pieces around
Speaker 1: him aren't gelling perfectly well yet. But then hey, January
Speaker 1: and February roll around. Bill selfs got his team, He's
Speaker 1: got his alpha, he's got his team rolling, and, barring
Speaker 1: an injury, a team that feels like one of the
Speaker 1: ten best chances to cut down the nets entering the tournament.
Speaker 3: I hope that's true. That would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: That is absolutely on the table.
Speaker 1: Cam they are opening, Oh, go ahead, give a take,
Speaker 1: and then I have a great segue to help you
Speaker 1: re a horrible experience. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Oh great, I got a lot of those. No, I
Speaker 2: was just gonna say, I think it's encouraging to feel that, Hey,
Speaker 2: guess what, the season probably won't start out well, maybe
Speaker 2: it will, who knows, but it won't start out incredibly well,
Speaker 2: and then Tank it might be a little bit of
Speaker 2: the opposite, which be more enjoyable.
Speaker 1: Well. And also we remember last year's teams started seven
Speaker 1: to zero. They beat Duke, they beat Michigan State, and
Speaker 1: they beat North Carolina boom boom, boom all in a
Speaker 1: row to start the year. And we were we thought
Speaker 1: this team was on its way to cutting down nets
Speaker 1: and then and they were what like like like fourteen
Speaker 1: and thirteen after December first or something like that, like
Speaker 1: it really fell apart. So when the team does inevitably
Speaker 1: lose a game or two in November, fans shouldn't be
Speaker 1: pushing the panic button because those same fans were the
Speaker 1: ones that were convinced that a good start last year
Speaker 1: meant that all the problems were fixed, and they most
Speaker 1: certainly were not. Okay. Now, to lead off this next
Speaker 1: segment where we talk about the full non conference schedule
Speaker 1: that got released, Cam, they're playing an exhibition game at
Speaker 1: Louisville this year and it is at the KMC Yums
Speaker 1: or the KFC Young Center. Surely, Cam, you did not
Speaker 1: have any negative experiences at the CAF Eye Center and Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Did you told the story a bunch, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: went to the Elite A game against Villanova and.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: I like it, I genuinely listen, it's not even a joke,
Speaker 2: Like it's actually real love this. Like I listened to
Speaker 2: the podcast. My dad and I went to this game.
Speaker 2: My dad's a KU lumps. We were listening. We're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: these guys know what they're talking about. This seems like
Speaker 2: a great matchup. It's gonna be a sure final four.
Speaker 2: And we go there and within the first like ten
Speaker 2: minutes of the game, we looked at each other. We
Speaker 2: were like, dude, we're gonna lose, aren't we Yeah, and
Speaker 2: sure as.
Speaker 1: Hell they lost. But see the difference between that KU
Speaker 1: tournament loss, where a loss feels inevitable in the first
Speaker 1: ten minutes and the ones that they the other ones,
Speaker 1: is this one gave you some hope because they actually
Speaker 1: took a lead. They did like we thought, oh here
Speaker 1: they come with fifteen minutes left and and well yeah,
Speaker 1: then the air got let out.
Speaker 2: There was like a there's this is not a joke either.
Speaker 2: Like I, I genuinely I saw Wayne Seldon make like
Speaker 2: twenty three pointers in a row and wore them ups
Speaker 2: and I tweeted out something. It's probably still on Twitter
Speaker 2: if you look at up it is.
Speaker 1: I know what it is, that rock shot block And.
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, guys, I don't know if this
Speaker 2: means anything, but just saw Wayne Seldon make a bunch
Speaker 2: of threes. He airballed his first two shots or whatever,
Speaker 2: and then in the second half he hit a shot
Speaker 2: that like hit the shot clock and went in and
Speaker 2: that's when Kansas like took the lead. And yeah they lost.
Speaker 1: So thanks, but Landon, if I had to ask you
Speaker 1: how many of the six threes Wayne Seldon took in
Speaker 1: that NACA tournament loss, you would how many did he make?
Speaker 1: You would say zero, and that would be correct. I
Speaker 1: did the family few noise earlier. That would be a
Speaker 1: good answer. Good answer because it would be the correct answer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That the thought of Cam, who would have been about
Speaker 1: twenty or so.
Speaker 2: I was like listening to ninety.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listening to ITP and being like, oh, these these
Speaker 1: guys man, because I've been there. I've listened to people
Speaker 1: on the radio like as a teenager that I thought
Speaker 1: they knew what they're talking about, so I can take
Speaker 1: their predictions to the bank. And then being bamboozled when
Speaker 1: it didn't work. I know what that feels like, thinking
Speaker 1: that that land or not landon Josh Daniel and I
Speaker 1: being totally confident that Kansas would step on Jay Wright
Speaker 1: then and it didn't happen. I will say I still
Speaker 1: to this day think Kansas was better than Villanova that year.
Speaker 1: I think they win that game seven out of ten times.
Speaker 2: But they did that day, No, they did not. And
Speaker 2: I also had to sit next to two just complete
Speaker 2: I can't say what I want to say, but just
Speaker 2: degenerate Villanova fans and yeah, that.
Speaker 3: Might have been the hope, sir, watch your mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very well, it could have been.
Speaker 1: The Pope has has spent time being happy that Kansas
Speaker 1: basketball lost in SA Tournament games. Bill self has made
Speaker 1: the Pope happy twice. I got they give two times?
Speaker 2: Oh man, really care what the Pope does all that much?
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about the non conference schedule a little bit,
Speaker 1: because we have it. We wondered when we get it.
Speaker 1: They played a couple of exhibitions. One of them is
Speaker 1: Fort Hayes State, which I will say this every single year,
Speaker 1: the best thing that's ever come out of covid Land.
Speaker 1: And what do. I always say, I don't remember that
Speaker 1: they only played one of these. Yes, one exhibition game
Speaker 1: is all we need against the real squad. And then
Speaker 1: they open this with who else but Doug Gottlieb's Green
Speaker 1: Bay team, Remember the team that at one point had
Speaker 1: fewer wins than Doug Gottlieb had weekly radio appearances. That's
Speaker 1: who the jay Aukts will open with. Really starting with
Speaker 1: a tough test there, the line in advance has got it.
Speaker 1: If Kansas doesn't beat Green Bay by forty we got problems.
Speaker 3: Mostly Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Game two forty five plus.
Speaker 1: Game two it gets much tougher. The return game of
Speaker 1: the North Carolina series is on a Friday night in
Speaker 1: early November and Chapel Hill Guitar Hills are kind of
Speaker 1: a French top twenty five team. They're in the low
Speaker 1: twenties and a lot of the preseason two early top
Speaker 1: twenty five things I've seen, and that will be a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. I'm sure the tickets will be ridiculously expensive.
Speaker 1: I don't think Kansas has played at North Carolina in
Speaker 1: thirty forty years something like that. It might be longer.
Speaker 1: That's one of the ones. The circle should be a
Speaker 1: great atmosphere, and it's one of those games that, regardless
Speaker 1: of how good each team is, it's one of those
Speaker 1: games that you expect to come down to the final
Speaker 1: couple of possessions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be a great one, I hope.
Speaker 2: Already getting ready for it.
Speaker 1: Then you get two layups with Texas A and M
Speaker 1: Corporus Christy not the Aggies, Corpus Christy. What's their mascot
Speaker 1: either of you know?
Speaker 3: Actually I don't know that I do. Are the Islanders
Speaker 3: the island?
Speaker 1: That's correct? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say a corpse named Christy.
Speaker 1: The Islanders is correct? And then you know that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you call me Captain autism. Cam. I didn't even know
Speaker 1: that the Corpus Christi Islanders were a thing.
Speaker 2: I could have I could have spent an hour just
Speaker 2: going over different things in my head and that would
Speaker 2: have never even crossed like the barrier.
Speaker 1: Well, we can give Cam the opportunity to let something
Speaker 1: cross his head because Game four is the IVY League
Speaker 1: game where they play Princeton at Allen Fieldhouse, and Cam,
Speaker 1: what do we always say about the IVY League game?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's the worst game of the year.
Speaker 1: They will win sixty seven fifty nine, and we'll sit
Speaker 1: here and be like, hey, guys, you know what, let's
Speaker 1: not freak out here for instant Actually they could. They
Speaker 1: could be at their team seeds six. I've done that
Speaker 1: many times. So normal, they're gonna start at least three
Speaker 1: and one because we don't know what the Carolina again.
Speaker 1: The others are layups at home, and then the Champions
Speaker 1: Classic a little later in the year that normally is
Speaker 1: it's game five. They play Duke, who should be a
Speaker 1: top five preseason team. They have the loser twins that
Speaker 1: are that well. I don't think that John Shire has
Speaker 1: ever beat Kansas. I think he's zero and three.
Speaker 3: Again, speaking of the twenty thirteen to fourteen team, this
Speaker 3: is shades of Andrew Wiggins versus Jubari Parker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even yeah, it really is same matchup. This one's
Speaker 1: at Yeah, this is at the house that Tom Thibodeau built,
Speaker 1: though land and not in Chicago.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, exactly. Oh, everyone calls it that.
Speaker 1: If I had to give you the choice between they
Speaker 1: go one and one or any other results against the
Speaker 1: u NC and Duke, what of those two options would
Speaker 1: you choose. I would take one in one, probably one
Speaker 1: in one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know which won though.
Speaker 1: You either have to win a legit road game like
Speaker 1: a Quad one a road game, or you gotta beat Duke,
Speaker 1: which they have done before, but neither of those games
Speaker 1: or Allen field House. I think one and one is
Speaker 1: going to be a struggle. I do. I think they
Speaker 1: lose both of those games with a young, growing team.
Speaker 3: Now now, let me let me spin zone a little bit.
Speaker 3: They beat Duke all the time in the regular season,
Speaker 3: and North Carolina has not been like your dad's North
Speaker 3: Carolina in the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: True, that is true North Carolina. The coaching matchup gives
Speaker 1: you a lot of hope for the North Carolina game.
Speaker 1: The Duke game, though, last year Kansas was at their
Speaker 1: best in November and Duke was at their worst in November,
Speaker 1: and even then it took you had to barely squeak
Speaker 1: one out against the team that was eventually the number
Speaker 1: one team in the NCAA. Is great win, nonetheless, and
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago they almost lost to him too,
Speaker 1: Grady Dick had to rescue him late. I think they
Speaker 1: lose both of those games. I think they're completely handled
Speaker 1: in one of them and lose like seventy eight to
Speaker 1: sixty two or something, and I think that they they're
Speaker 1: in a real intense battle in the other one and
Speaker 1: just drop and I think they're three and two going
Speaker 1: into Oh, it's much easier now the players era than
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, which is going to be at I
Speaker 1: think I read that. I don't know how we still
Speaker 1: don't have matchups for this yet. I think I read
Speaker 1: that two of them are going to be Power five teams,
Speaker 1: and then you get you get a mid major that
Speaker 1: you should have a pretty decent point spread against. I
Speaker 1: think they win twice in Vegas. I'll just say two
Speaker 1: and one, and they get a real nice quality win
Speaker 1: over somebody there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels right. It's a good call, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Agree. Here's where I think it starts to turn.
Speaker 1: I think they beat Yukon at home, which is a
Speaker 1: fantastic game on December second. This is not the big
Speaker 1: East battle that's done. This is a home and home
Speaker 1: that the teams agreed to. They're going to play at
Speaker 1: Allen field House this year, and then we will have
Speaker 1: a return game at Danny Hurley's Connecticut Pavilion the next year.
Speaker 1: Connecticut figures to be once again very good. I think
Speaker 1: Kansas takes care of business and wins at home, and
Speaker 1: at that point they have to have a at least
Speaker 1: one quality dub on their schedule between Connecticut Duke and
Speaker 1: North Carolina.
Speaker 3: And whatever happens in the players era, yeah, they're.
Speaker 1: Gonna have like five chances.
Speaker 2: I bet Dan Hurley gets kicked out of allen Field
Speaker 2: House this year.
Speaker 1: Well was the last coach to get ejected from allen
Speaker 1: Field House.
Speaker 3: Still.
Speaker 1: Bob Huggins the picture of our group chat on his
Speaker 1: pants up, I think so.
Speaker 2: I was happy Elastic waistband.
Speaker 1: It was so loud, no one knew what was going
Speaker 1: on because it was right after he was drunk that game, right, yes,
Speaker 1: and they like the next thing we know, the band
Speaker 1: starts playing the the the Wave the Wheat song when
Speaker 1: a guy fouls out, and I couldn't figure it out
Speaker 1: because like the I knew that the player who had
Speaker 1: fouled on Western Virginia did not have five fouls, And
Speaker 1: it took me a minute to realize, Oh, that song
Speaker 1: is for Bob Huggins, who's being escorted off the court
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: I remember I listened to like I was actually driving
Speaker 2: through West Virginia, like going on a spring break trip
Speaker 2: or something down south. A couple weeks after that game,
Speaker 2: and Bob Huggins was on a radio show for like
Speaker 2: the West Virginia Mountaineers Sports Network. I don't know what
Speaker 2: it's called. It's just basically just go back to the mines.
Speaker 2: And he gets on there and he's like, we need
Speaker 2: to fix this whole situation in Kansas. Like it's a
Speaker 2: complete joke. You know, the fish eating is a complete joke.
Speaker 2: I almost called in and it's one of the biggest
Speaker 2: regrets in my life. I didn't have a radio show
Speaker 2: off or showdown with Bob Huggins.
Speaker 1: You could have, you definitely could have. And then I
Speaker 1: believe I think I think Bob Huggins got fired for
Speaker 1: going on a radio show and saying something insensitive about
Speaker 1: Catholic just a couple of months after that happened. I
Speaker 1: remember that whole sequence. Yeah, and then Bob Huggins has
Speaker 1: been ejected multiple times against Kansas. There was that time
Speaker 1: at the T Mobile Center too, in the Big twelve
Speaker 1: tournament where it was once again a real upsided foul count.
Speaker 1: And I think that one was pretty early. I think
Speaker 1: it was like twenty two to four or something like
Speaker 1: that where they tossed Bob Huggins.
Speaker 2: It's almost like they fouled a lot when he coached them.
Speaker 1: That is true, but they were only called in Allen Fieldhouse.
Speaker 1: They didn't call him when I went up to Morgan.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Then you get the first rivalry game of the year,
Speaker 1: which is Missouri at the Team Mobile Center. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give a little bit of a bitch beest here.
Speaker 1: Why why was it just too entertaining watching them play
Speaker 1: at each other's historic home court with the rivalry settings
Speaker 1: in the crazy setting? Was Missouririna and Allen field House
Speaker 1: not doing it for you or something? Guys, why nobody
Speaker 1: wants Team Mobile Center? We want home and homes.
Speaker 3: Agree and Kuia by twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah they should. This should be a year that they
Speaker 1: Missouri is not is a French tournament team. According to
Speaker 1: ESPN's bracketology. Kansas State not in the field as of
Speaker 1: right now, which is wild because they just spend a
Speaker 1: bunch of money on another recruit. The road game of
Speaker 1: non conference play is also in the state of North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Just like the first one, they go at Will Wade's
Speaker 1: NC State team, where I believe Paul and Baya pulled
Speaker 1: back his commitment for the wolf Pack and joined Kansas.
Speaker 1: And then there's obviously the the Darien Williams situation where
Speaker 1: North Carolina State stole him from Kansas in the in
Speaker 1: the portals, so tough game. Will Wade's a good coach.
Speaker 1: You gotta think the wolf Pack have plus are have
Speaker 1: minusids to be a tournament team this year under his leadership.
Speaker 1: That feels like a loss.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, this feels like a loss. Also,
Speaker 3: when was the last time they played at NC State
Speaker 3: and UNC in the same year. Hasn't happened the same year? Yeah, Kansas.
Speaker 3: By the way, they lost their first ever matchup with
Speaker 3: NC State in nineteen fifty nine. They've won thirteen straight since,
Speaker 3: including one last year that you were at Landon. That's true,
Speaker 3: Hunter Dickinson going for like three assists away from a
Speaker 3: triple double that.
Speaker 1: Night, and the problems were fixed. So we thought, yeah, yeah, Kansas.
Speaker 1: Kansas is five to oh lifetime in Raleigh in road
Speaker 1: games in the series. They played him in ninety four
Speaker 1: and ninety five in the Roy Williams era, and that's
Speaker 1: it in the last thirty five years. A quick Google
Speaker 1: search shows that their history against North Carolina features no
Speaker 1: road games unless you go all the way back to Geez.
Speaker 1: They've never played in Chapel Hill. If you want to
Speaker 1: say Charlotte, I don't know if that was where you
Speaker 1: U and C called home at one point, or Raleigh
Speaker 1: they've played both times they played in both those cities.
Speaker 1: They've never played a game at the Dean Dome.
Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, So.
Speaker 1: Your answer is never, Your answer is never landing to
Speaker 1: what was the last time they played in both of
Speaker 1: those places the same year?
Speaker 3: Well, there you go, first time for everything, even in
Speaker 3: your twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: So then the last two games at home for Kansas
Speaker 1: thousand and Davidson, one of them will be a blow,
Speaker 1: one of them will be stupidly annoying, probably Davidson. There's
Speaker 1: probably some white guy that'll make six threes and make
Speaker 1: that game close. But to run through one more time,
Speaker 1: Green Bay, North Carolina A and M Corpus Christy Princeton Duke,
Speaker 1: and you get three games in Vegas, Yukon Missouri at
Speaker 1: North Carolina State thousand Davidson. How many losses in there?
Speaker 1: That is a art? How many is that? Thirteen games?
Speaker 1: Because we're back to eighteen league games this year, right, three, four, five,
Speaker 1: six of eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Yeah, it's thirteen games.
Speaker 1: What's the record?
Speaker 3: Uh, ten and three.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: I think if you get ten and three, you smash
Speaker 1: that take button right now. I think that is that
Speaker 1: is that because I mean you're look at the take
Speaker 1: out the games. They're not gonna lose. Yeah, you and
Speaker 1: c on the road Duke in in New York, three
Speaker 1: games in the players era Yukon, at home Missouri and
Speaker 1: Casey and at North Carolina State. How many games is that?
Speaker 1: That is eight? So they're going five and three in
Speaker 1: those eight games that all feel like mostly coin flips.
Speaker 1: I guess when you're word it like that, five and
Speaker 1: three seems doable.
Speaker 3: It's definitely doable. They could even be better. They could
Speaker 3: be worse. That's the nature of the roster we just
Speaker 3: talked about. H Yeah, I'll go ten and three. I
Speaker 3: think this team's gonna be pretty good. I always think
Speaker 3: that in June, but I do think that again.
Speaker 1: It's gonna say that feels like a good time to
Speaker 1: bring this song back. Yeah, I'll say nine and four.
Speaker 1: I'll say a nine and four where the arrow is
Speaker 1: pointing upwards as December goes along.
Speaker 2: Okay, ten and three.
Speaker 1: If they get to ten before conference place starts, we're
Speaker 1: looking at a really good roster. If they get eleven,
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at a top five team.
Speaker 3: I would definitely agree with that. Seven, eleven or twelve,
Speaker 3: they are a great basketball team.
Speaker 2: If they're like building game of five to five hundred,
Speaker 2: do we just quit.
Speaker 1: As the bad scenario is there three and two, go
Speaker 1: into Vegas and they go one and two there and there?
Speaker 1: What would that be? Four and four coming back to
Speaker 1: play Yukon at home? Four and five heading into Missouri
Speaker 1: is the worst case scenario.
Speaker 2: That would be so wild.
Speaker 3: That's not unplossible. That is possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I think going into the Yukon, I think
Speaker 1: after Yukon, which is game number nine, I think you're
Speaker 1: six and three and it wouldn't totally stun me if
Speaker 1: you're five and four, like I Ope. Then though, if
Speaker 1: they are six and three, I could see a scenario
Speaker 1: where they get Missouri, they squeak one out at North
Speaker 1: Carolina State and then they smash their cupcakes and do
Speaker 1: hit ten and three. I feel like the North Carolina
Speaker 1: game is the big one here. That's the one where
Speaker 1: it feels like they're a better team than But the
Speaker 1: road environment, the two road games you go to and
Speaker 1: on those road games and you're getting double digits. If
Speaker 1: if you lose both of those, well then you have
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 3: Of good teams going to the Dean Dome and do
Speaker 3: not escape with the victory. So that would not be
Speaker 3: a stunning result at all.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Bill self hired Jacques Vaughan to be Norm roberts replacement
Speaker 1: as a head coach or as an assistant coach, and
Speaker 1: a lot of people think has the door kind of
Speaker 1: left open for him a little bit by or Sell
Speaker 1: Jacques vaugh as Kansas is next coach.
Speaker 3: Ah, bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that was done intentionally, all right.
Speaker 1: I got two predictions here. Number one, that sentence is true.
Speaker 1: Jacquevun is Kansas's next head coach. Prediction number two, Jacquevn's
Speaker 1: next job will not be Kansas head coach. I think
Speaker 1: he's an assistant for a year or two and then
Speaker 1: gets hired to go be a head coach somewhere where
Speaker 1: it's not let's face it, if he gets hired at
Speaker 1: a Maryland or a Tennessee or a job like that.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's not coming back to Kansas when
Speaker 1: Self eventually steps down. I think he's gonna be Kansas's
Speaker 1: next head coach, and Kansas fans should like that. He's
Speaker 1: an NBA mind. It's you know, they want to get away.
Speaker 1: The people that aren't as happy with Bill self want
Speaker 1: kind of the newer age style. I think jaquvn brings
Speaker 1: that here. I think that's the guy you want as
Speaker 1: your next head coach. I'm not crazy about them just
Speaker 1: being like, hey, you went to our school, so that
Speaker 1: takes you up a couple points on our power rankings list.
Speaker 1: But I think Jacquevon, with his NBA head coaching experience,
Speaker 1: I think that's a great potential perspective future head coach.
Speaker 3: I loosely buy the rumors that this is Bill Seth's
Speaker 3: swan song. That might not be true at all, that
Speaker 3: might totally be smoke. Are those actually good chance? Say again,
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's m this is tough podcasting.
Speaker 2: Well, we're in mid season for him in June. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's rumors. I kind of think it's
Speaker 2: like that whole thing. You know, they put up the
Speaker 2: white smoke of the Vatican when they came to a conclusion.
Speaker 2: You do that in West Virginia, you get a whopper.
Speaker 2: I think here we're just kind of spitballing, and we
Speaker 2: think that Bill Soft might be getting close to retiring.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Landon has anything to add to that.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I have no official report by any stretch.
Speaker 3: I've just heard a little bit of that that it's
Speaker 3: possible that this is the case that very well may
Speaker 3: be wrong, but also it's been possible that he's on
Speaker 3: his way out for the last week.
Speaker 1: Are not experts, No, we're definitely not in West Virginia.
Speaker 1: Can't you see the smoke? You see the white smoke
Speaker 1: and then you take a sniff and oh nope. But dude,
Speaker 1: I lived.
Speaker 2: With a dude that was from West Virginia at one point,
Speaker 2: and I once looked at him and I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what they say about incest in West Virginia.
Speaker 2: And he looked at me and he was like, don't
Speaker 2: say And I was like, why go across the street
Speaker 2: when you can go across the hall? And he got
Speaker 2: real upset.
Speaker 1: I that does like a train crash that I could
Speaker 1: see coming in slow motion and I knew Cam would
Speaker 1: go forward with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of deserve it.
Speaker 1: That's why Cam gets paid the big bucks land And
Speaker 1: I hope you never find out how much Cam makes
Speaker 1: because then you know we'd have to we'd have Toree negotiate.
Speaker 1: Cam makes a lot of money.
Speaker 2: My salary qualified me for medicaid.
Speaker 1: Uh. Here's that. Here's a fun exercise brought to you
Speaker 1: by SpongeBob. You want to see me name all the
Speaker 1: Jayhawks that got picked in the NBA draft, and you
Speaker 1: want to see me do it again? Okay, how about
Speaker 1: a third time? Hunter Dickinson signed a contract with the Pelicans.
Speaker 1: I believe we have a gentleman's agreement on this show
Speaker 1: and a handshake bet that that Hunter Dickinson will or
Speaker 1: I don't ever score a basket in the NBA. I
Speaker 1: said he will. I still believe he will, and he's
Speaker 1: a professional right now for the Pelicans.
Speaker 2: Probably will.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have a great time playing for Panathonikos.
Speaker 1: Fun fact. Who was the last man to be selected
Speaker 1: in the NBA draft that went to Kansas?
Speaker 2: Was it Kevin mccoler, same draft?
Speaker 1: A little later in it?
Speaker 3: Really, who was it it was?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Johnny Furfey correct made a bucket in the NBA finals,
Speaker 1: I believe, or at least played in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3: Yep, he did score.
Speaker 1: Good friends, I thought that you said he did or
Speaker 1: he didn't?
Speaker 3: He did? He did score?
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought he did. I remember seeing Twitter all
Speaker 1: about about it. Four Big twelve players got drafted a
Speaker 1: week ago. Can you name him?
Speaker 3: I got two for sure, VJ. Edgecombe and Igor Demean. Definitely.
Speaker 1: I think three of them were lottery picks.
Speaker 3: Man. I followed the draft decently closely, but I'm blanking
Speaker 3: ard right now.
Speaker 1: You got a Spur and you got a Grizzlies. The
Speaker 1: Spur is a lottery pick.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, who was it? Who was it? Carter Bryant good?
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's three eight and fourteen. We have guys
Speaker 1: like Micah Peeb and Tristan De Silva and yes, Yeves
Speaker 1: Messi and Terrence Shannon who played for a Big twelve
Speaker 1: school at one point.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but who did you say the other guy
Speaker 3: went to?
Speaker 1: If I say that, I feel like you'll get it.
Speaker 1: He went to West Virginia.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm I meant what NBA team if you
Speaker 3: played at West Virginia, who was it it was? Uh?
Speaker 1: Was it Small eight? It was Javon Small Yep, yep, yes,
Speaker 1: it was nie K. Clifford began his career, I believe
Speaker 1: in a Big twelve role, and I know Michah Peeb
Speaker 1: started at TCU. Neither one of them finished in Big
Speaker 1: twelve schools. They both were picked as well. Yes, Kansas's
Speaker 1: last draft pick was Indie Johnny fir Can you guys
Speaker 1: name Kansas State's last draft pick? Oh?
Speaker 2: Uh, oh man, I can picture him.
Speaker 1: It is not Noel drafted three number. Who is the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder?
Speaker 2: I can picture him. He had like that stupid heart
Speaker 2: tattoo and it had some symboloici.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just I thought that I thought the
Speaker 1: Queen of Hearts tattoo was cool. Sir picked one pick
Speaker 1: Jalen Wilson.
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I can picture him.
Speaker 3: Was it Cardio Jara?
Speaker 1: It was Johnson? That's all right, right, yep, that is
Speaker 1: the last time. And who who's the kid Kansas State signed?
Speaker 1: They signed a kid and gave him two But yeah,
Speaker 1: they like one of the top one of the top
Speaker 1: scorers in all of college basketball last year. Now he
Speaker 1: gets away from Penny Hardaway and look out.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's an upgrade to go into
Speaker 2: drum Tang or not, but.
Speaker 3: Toy away from Hardway and right to Tang.
Speaker 1: Bye or so in Kansas's uh, we we don't have
Speaker 1: the Big twelve schedule yet, but we do have their pairings,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get two or they're gonna get two
Speaker 1: games against Uh. I believe it's k State, Arizona and
Speaker 1: Iowa State. Those are their three home and homes. By
Speaker 1: or Sell, this is the year Kansas gets a win
Speaker 1: over Jerome Tang and Bramledge Bye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're due.
Speaker 1: It's it's gotta happen eventually. The last time that they
Speaker 1: won a game out there, I believe was the o
Speaker 1: Chaya Baji comeback. Wasn't it the final?
Speaker 2: Bruce Webers that is correct.
Speaker 1: Uh. They haven't won in Waco since before COVID. They
Speaker 1: haven't played Arizona or Arizona State. They haven't won at
Speaker 1: Iowa State since their naty year. They haven't won at
Speaker 1: who else. They haven't won at West Virginia. In a
Speaker 1: hot minute, they haven't beat West Virginia in a couple
Speaker 1: of years.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have they have m B b YU either. Ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous that we don't get two different games of
Speaker 1: Kansas and e b YU for the debonds, the Peterson matchup.
Speaker 3: They're they're they're losing the BYU again, is it in
Speaker 3: profescially If it's If it's in provo, they definitely will
Speaker 3: lose to them. If it's in if.
Speaker 2: It's allenfield House, Yeah, I think they don't lose Allen.
Speaker 2: Do they lose at Allen field House this year?
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll say they don't. I'm gonna keep saying they
Speaker 1: don't till till I get it right. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that they win.
Speaker 2: I think I think they do.
Speaker 1: Uh, here are your your conference home games. They do
Speaker 1: get b YU at home, also Utah, TCU, Baylor, Cincy
Speaker 1: in Houston. And then the three teams that I read
Speaker 1: earlier they're away essential are they're away exclusive opponents are
Speaker 1: Central Florida what could go wrong, Arizona State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Tech,
Speaker 1: West Virginia, and Colorado. I believe if you look at
Speaker 1: the preseason rankings, I think that four of the six
Speaker 1: toughest games for Kansas will be at home. I think Houston,
Speaker 1: b Yu, Texas Tech, Arizona and Baylor are probably the
Speaker 1: best five teams in the Big twelve not named Kansas.
Speaker 1: And you only get you get to play all of
Speaker 1: those teams besides Texas Tech at home, and you only
Speaker 1: have two of those six matchups on the road. If
Speaker 1: you had Iowa State in there, then you're saying that
Speaker 1: you get five of your easiest eight at home. I
Speaker 1: think they have a pretty good schedule this year. Houston
Speaker 1: is only at home, Baylor's only at home, and BYU
Speaker 1: is only at home. That seems like a decent draw, and.
Speaker 3: They'll definitely smash Arizona State on.
Speaker 1: The road where they've never won ever.
Speaker 2: Insane is the third horseman of the apocalypse. When Kansas
Speaker 2: beat UCF by like seventy points last year and we.
Speaker 1: Thought it was good to go in the snow, when
Speaker 1: Landon and I were like stuck in the houses for
Speaker 1: three days and we were like, yes, myself, we thought
Speaker 1: aj store had arrived. I think Ryland Grippin made four
Speaker 1: threes that day too.
Speaker 2: The whole team looked good.
Speaker 3: Floor went coast to coast, and.
Speaker 1: Then yeah, Kansas went three and Ozero over UCF and
Speaker 1: the margins of victory were like fifty one, three and
Speaker 1: three or something like that.
Speaker 2: I think there's a quote on this podcast after the
Speaker 2: UCF game where Landon and I both were like, or
Speaker 2: you asked us, You were like, what do you think
Speaker 2: happens with Florida after this year? And we were like,
Speaker 2: I think he's a lottery pick after that transition that
Speaker 2: exists some four.
Speaker 1: And hey, guys, Exciting you is the next show that
Speaker 1: we do, which will come a little bit later in
Speaker 1: the summer. It will be our season twelve finale and
Speaker 1: we will do our prop bets and let me just say,
Speaker 1: let me just say, oh boy, it's it's sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, although I don't I don't know if I've ever
Speaker 3: seen a coach single handedly tank of players, NBA draft prospects,
Speaker 3: Mike Bill, self and Flory and I understand the holdout
Speaker 3: a lot more when we say that outloud.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was playing forty chess.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do ASCARCB. Now we begin with a well,
Speaker 1: there's only seven questions and we've kind of touched on
Speaker 1: a lot of these because these are about lineups. Let's
Speaker 1: start with Bryson Tiller Landon feels like a good place
Speaker 1: for you to start here. There's two about him. At
Speaker 1: Boom and Frost, he says, why does everyone think Tiller
Speaker 1: is not going to be our starting four? Self didn't
Speaker 1: recruit and portal over him. He's a five star guy.
Speaker 1: He's going to turn heads. And then at b Hillsey
Speaker 1: three says, is Bryson Tiller the most slept on KU
Speaker 1: player by their fans in recent memory? All metrics would
Speaker 1: have this as a top three recruiting class in the
Speaker 1: country if he did not reclassify to practice with the
Speaker 1: team last year. He seems like an under the radar
Speaker 1: roster would play to KU's advantage in comparison to the
Speaker 1: last two years. A lot of Bryson Tiller love. And
Speaker 1: this morning when I woke up, I too thought I'm
Speaker 1: going to talk about how Bryson Tiller is a little unheralded. Now,
Speaker 1: seeing these ASCARCB replies and seeing your thoughts, I'm beginning
Speaker 1: to think that that's not as sacred of an opinion
Speaker 1: as I originally thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe not. I think it's entirely possible. Bryson
Speaker 3: Tiller really really good. I was watching his highlights earlier,
Speaker 3: and I really like him. He's he's his skill set
Speaker 3: is really really nice. He's a smooth, open floor fore man.
Speaker 3: He can handle the ball, he can pick and pop
Speaker 3: a little bit, he can knock down a shot. He's
Speaker 3: got a motor on him. He's smooth, he likes to
Speaker 3: dunk the basketball.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: There's a lot to like about Bryson Tiller. And if
Speaker 3: he can fit in the system well, and like's if
Speaker 3: he's got it between the ears as much as he's
Speaker 3: got it everywhere else, he's gonna be he could be
Speaker 3: a genuinely kind of special player. I hope that's true.
Speaker 3: He has pro level skill set. Honestly, he really does.
Speaker 1: Cam give your thoughts on Tiller if you would, because
Speaker 1: I I'll kind of tie it together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I have no idea. He looks
Speaker 2: impressive on highlight reels, just like anyone else. He looks
Speaker 2: like he can run the floor, shoot a little bit,
Speaker 2: he can handle ball a little bit, kind of do
Speaker 2: everything that another power forward that played for Kansas really
Speaker 2: couldn't do that much, not to that horse there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Bryon Tiller take a twelve foot push hook.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every devastating Kansas loss has some type of ill
Speaker 2: advised mid range jump shot from a big man. That
Speaker 2: is a hill that I will die on. Whether it
Speaker 2: was David McCormick at Rup, that's the that's the one
Speaker 2: of multiple kJ Adams. Like, yeah, every time kJ would
Speaker 2: make one, like he made a couple against Duke and
Speaker 2: Fran for Scilla was grand.
Speaker 1: He can do that. Yeah, that's his game, Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: And like no, it's not now that Elon Musk has
Speaker 1: made it so you can still see blocked. People that
Speaker 1: have blocked use Twitter pages. Fran Bruscilla's tweets will pop
Speaker 1: up in my timeline. I'm always like, this is stupid.
Speaker 1: I want to reply to this and I can't. It's
Speaker 1: a tease. It's like seeing a really attractive woman in
Speaker 1: a in a in a swim suit behind a glass
Speaker 1: door and she's inviting you to come in. She's like,
Speaker 1: come on, come tell me all about how a fan
Speaker 1: does and the door won't open. That's how I can
Speaker 1: did you guys.
Speaker 2: See did you guys see the Hailey vanly at a
Speaker 2: Swimsuit edition? Like I would need a full bore running
Speaker 2: head start to handle any of that welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Guys. You know what I I try to tell you
Speaker 1: guys about pagebackers from the start. Look who was correct?
Speaker 1: Look who was correct the whole time?
Speaker 2: That was not That was Hailey Vanly.
Speaker 1: I know, I know that one's undeniable. But you guys
Speaker 1: try to argue with me about pagebackers, and especially you Nick,
Speaker 1: who did not listening.
Speaker 3: I would actually prefer pagebackers. Haley Vanly a perfectly attractive
Speaker 3: young woman in her own right, but I would go.
Speaker 2: With page Hay Van could run me over in a
Speaker 2: mini van and I'd apologize for being in the way.
Speaker 1: Me a minivan with the windows that are broken because
Speaker 1: Cam's student had a golf fall with them.
Speaker 2: Yes, that same car, Chrysler two thousand and eight Green.
Speaker 1: Some we go back to bryceon Tiller, who who is six?
Speaker 2: Anybody remember that program? Oh? Do I? Yes?
Speaker 1: Do? I? And Rust Millennials got really screwed out of
Speaker 1: that because yeah, we can chuck up an now the
Speaker 1: l for the gen Z or millennials whatever they call.
Speaker 1: Uh So, Tiller is six' ten two forty and and
Speaker 1: a lot of times whenever guys sign With, kansas they
Speaker 1: shoot up the recruiting rankings at the, End tiller had
Speaker 1: the opposite effect because he was. Hurt at one, Point
Speaker 1: tiller was a top fifteen recruit on a lot of
Speaker 1: these twenty four to seven type. Websites he finished outside
Speaker 1: the top forty because of his. Injuries and then, yeah he,
Speaker 1: reclassifies and, uh you, know missus doesn't play last. Year
Speaker 1: he does practice a little. BIT i don't know if
Speaker 1: he's been fully cleared at this. Point there's some there's
Speaker 1: some controversis with, that but, Yes i'm with, You, like
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, reclassify this class would Have, peterson who
Speaker 1: is not just a five star but is the number
Speaker 1: one five. Star tiller would be a five star guy
Speaker 1: if he didn't reclassify and get. Hurt and then you have.
Speaker 1: U i, mean then who else is? Here you Have
Speaker 1: rosario who's a four. Star you have called her on
Speaker 1: land and thinks should. Start, yeah that's a hell of a.
Speaker 1: Class and then you bring in you, Know bill self
Speaker 1: was able to use the portal and not just fill up.
Speaker 1: GUYS i need all these. Positions he was able to, say,
Speaker 1: like you, know we could use a guy like this
Speaker 1: SO i. Can he wasn't going to the portal to
Speaker 1: fill eighty percent of a roster like he has in the.
Speaker 1: PAST i Think tiller's got a lot of. Upside we'll
Speaker 1: see if it happens At elliot ruson H other than,
Speaker 1: shooting what do you feel this roster may be. Missing
Speaker 1: what do you think would put them over the. TOP
Speaker 1: i think it's front court. Depth if we're being, Honest
Speaker 1: If tiller's still kind of banged up And embia And
Speaker 1: flory aren't quite acclaimed and ready to take on that
Speaker 1: predominantly starting, ROLES i think you could get freight trained
Speaker 1: a little bit under the.
Speaker 3: Basket, yeah that's probably a good. Take, also apologies to
Speaker 3: all the like fifty plus fans who are gonna try
Speaker 3: to Pronounce paul And bya And florid But dounga all.
Speaker 2: Year, Yeah branfascilla is already. Prepping he's hooked on.
Speaker 1: Phonics fran gets worse when the team's, worse and that's what's,
Speaker 1: frustrating because the team's been worse the last couple of.
Speaker 3: Years that's If.
Speaker 2: Paula if he If paul And bya looks anything like Check,
Speaker 2: DIALLO i think we're in a bunch of.
Speaker 1: TROUBLE i Think paul And baya looks like he's like
Speaker 1: thirty eight years, old doesn't He he looks kind of
Speaker 1: like over The, yeah a little bit of the dope
Speaker 1: effect where he's twenty one and he, looks you, know
Speaker 1: like he could be a mid thirties dad that's married
Speaker 1: with four kids and has worked in a as has
Speaker 1: held his job as a warehouse manager for twenty. YEARS
Speaker 1: i think that's kind of what that's The paul And
Speaker 1: baya bye by. Yet but he's good.
Speaker 2: Speaking speaking of like evaluating. Talent we've come to this
Speaker 2: conclusion of the group chat That ryan he has an
Speaker 2: ability to IDENTIFY nba players with the typically are not
Speaker 2: REALLY nba. Players i'm, convinced are you guys aware of
Speaker 2: Who Dave blunts. Is he's, LIKE i don't, know five,
Speaker 2: ten six hundred and fifty, pounds he's a. Rapper if
Speaker 2: you handed him A i don't even want to continue
Speaker 2: after that. Comment, anyway if you handed him a basketball,
Speaker 2: Jersey i'm convinced That ryan looking, him he kind of
Speaker 2: reminds me of Plumed Big Baby. Davis there's a clip
Speaker 2: Of ryan going ERNEST U day's AN nba player out.
Speaker 1: There, Yeah, Well i'll hang my hat on that and
Speaker 1: say if he had stayed With, bill he just might
Speaker 1: be because then he scored three points Against kansas and
Speaker 1: all the fans are, like, man he's better than Unter.
Speaker 1: Dickinson he was. Not he was definitely. Not you notice
Speaker 1: How i've been, very very precautious with MY nba takes.
Speaker 1: Here i've let you guys PUT nba caps on all
Speaker 1: these four star. Freshmen AND i will do it.
Speaker 3: Again see me this time this place next.
Speaker 1: Year At Bentley hunt. Fifteen now That bill has made his,
Speaker 1: splashes is this team top twenty heading in the next?
Speaker 2: Year?
Speaker 1: Also it helps with Their kansas they'll be top. TWENTY
Speaker 1: i think they're gonna probably clock in somewhere in that
Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen. RANGE i could see him going a
Speaker 1: little higher, though Because. Peterson, YEAH i think that's.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i, Agree, yeah nailed it At Beer.
Speaker 1: Brad now that the roster is in, place who do
Speaker 1: you expect to be the team's best. Defender there's only
Speaker 1: one answer on, this and it's an easy.
Speaker 2: One, oh It's Melvin, Council Melvin.
Speaker 1: Counsel that It's Melvin Counsel Dog Marcus garrett the. Second
Speaker 1: according to Some twitter fans land and get.
Speaker 2: AMPED i am am And landon's mind is that the
Speaker 2: coming of the Anti, christ.
Speaker 1: And, HEY i will Give Marcus. Garrett THE Nba finals
Speaker 1: did remind us That Shygildes solider had had six turnovers
Speaker 1: Against Marcus garrett and then two years Later Tyrese haliburton
Speaker 1: had five points in a game Against Marcus. Garrett he
Speaker 1: was a good.
Speaker 3: DEFENDER i never said he was bad at, defense never
Speaker 3: said very.
Speaker 1: Much not more questions. Here willan is from At Kate eden.
Speaker 1: Fourteen you don't Think El marco is actually going to?
Speaker 1: Start do? You? Yes, caam, Yes, UNFORTUNATELY.
Speaker 2: I, boy have you guys seen the show.
Speaker 1: BEFORE i don't Think El marco. Is Like i'm willing
Speaker 1: to give it a. Chance If bill self Starts Elmarco
Speaker 1: jackson and says he's a five star high school, player
Speaker 1: he's a McDonald's All, american this is his third year
Speaker 1: in the, system and he's a great, athlete oh, Listen
Speaker 1: i'm willing to give that a few. Games but if
Speaker 1: he hasn't made significant progress as a shooter or as a,
Speaker 1: scorer it's got to be one of the. Other then
Speaker 1: there's just too many other guys on this roster that
Speaker 1: are good at those things that need to play over,
Speaker 1: Him i'm willing to give it a. Shot i'm pledging
Speaker 1: to you both THAT i will not get in here
Speaker 1: and scream About Almarco jackson starting until we are To.
Speaker 1: Christmas if he's still starting after that and it's not
Speaker 1: going well and there are other guys that we believe
Speaker 1: should be playing, More i'll start to ring the gong
Speaker 1: a little. Bit But i'm willing to Give elmarco a
Speaker 1: chance because his third year and he's a five star
Speaker 1: high school.
Speaker 3: Player, Yeah i'm also willing to give it a chance
Speaker 3: just from a skill set and talent, perspective like you
Speaker 3: can you can see that Al marco is not an
Speaker 3: untalented basketball. Player he couldn't make a shot to save
Speaker 3: his life in his freshman year and that was the big.
Speaker 3: Thing but he's super, athletic you, know and that that
Speaker 3: showed a few. Times that that is kind of ALL
Speaker 3: i can say about. HIM i, mean there's something, there
Speaker 3: and If bill starts, him and If bill's high on, him,
Speaker 3: Sure i'll all give him the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 3: AND i will gladly give him a.
Speaker 2: CHANCE i, mean he did have that one.
Speaker 1: Dunk that dunk was. Good, yeah, yeah the one dunk
Speaker 1: was really good in the worst game that we've ever.
Speaker 1: Watched that's the worst game in THE i would rather
Speaker 1: watch The kansas by you lost from last. YEAR i
Speaker 1: don't care what that. Say they played one hundred than
Speaker 1: they did Against cincinnati in The big twelve. Tournament that
Speaker 1: was the worst Game i've ever.
Speaker 3: Watched at LEAST byu was fun to watch in THE byu, destruction.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah and remember in That cincinnati game where kJ
Speaker 1: adams almost single handedly willed them back and they got
Speaker 1: it within you and.
Speaker 3: Then they wound up losing by.
Speaker 1: Twenty just for all, sake let's pull up the box
Speaker 1: score in that. Game march twenty twenty, Four Kansas, cincinnati
Speaker 1: seventy two to fifty Two. Kansas in this, GAME kJ
Speaker 1: adams was very. Good he was nine for, fourteen score
Speaker 1: twenty two. Points if you take kJ adams, away The
Speaker 1: jayhawks scored exactly thirty count them thirty. Points they made
Speaker 1: twelve baskets on an impossible forty eight, attempts twelve of forty,
Speaker 1: eight which is twenty five.
Speaker 2: Percent Tony bennett looks like he just popped to see
Speaker 2: allis wherever he.
Speaker 1: Is they were three for twenty shooting, threes WHICH i
Speaker 1: believe was two for nineteen Until Nick Brick timberlake made
Speaker 1: his fifth and final three with the clock expiring in
Speaker 1: a twenty point. Loss, yeah and if you really want
Speaker 1: to get deeper into this, game you'll See kansas had
Speaker 1: thirteen assists wrapped AGAINST. U let's see, here just twelve.
Speaker 1: Turnovers the problem wasn't. Turnovers the problem was they couldn't make.
Speaker 1: Shots And Dewan harris on a night.
Speaker 2: Exactly, Why, oh go, Ahead, marco we should play a.
Speaker 1: Lot Johnny surphy was one for eight El marco wasn't
Speaker 1: even worse two for eleven in that, game did lead
Speaker 1: them with nine, rebounds all at And Dewan harris on
Speaker 1: a night wherever he was a senior on a team
Speaker 1: that had nobody else Gave kansas exactly three baskets in
Speaker 1: thirty eight.
Speaker 2: Minutes, yeah but he CREATES nba wings and where's a?
Speaker 3: Headband and loves playing for the name on the front
Speaker 3: of the jersey and said.
Speaker 1: The name on the.
Speaker 2: Back, hey that he.
Speaker 1: Does i've already heard that said About Melvin council and
Speaker 1: a bunch of other. Guys landing and our final question
Speaker 1: at show Me, hawk how many cities and towns have
Speaker 1: you been to in the state Of? Kansas Cam have
Speaker 1: you ever been To? Kansas? Oh, yeah, Dude, No, Yeah i've.
Speaker 2: Been i've been To, laurnearence To, PEKA i believe. That, No, Lawrence,
Speaker 2: wichita maybe To. PEKA i think that's.
Speaker 1: It and you AND, i you AND i have lived In. Kansas, Yeah,
Speaker 1: landon you've lived In kansas for almost a dozen years
Speaker 1: at this, point and you've been to a lot of
Speaker 1: places In.
Speaker 3: Kansas, uh, Yeah I'VE i Mean i've been to. SEVERAL
Speaker 3: I i really have not gone west much at. All,
Speaker 3: Uh lawrence or To peak is about as far AS
Speaker 3: i go on a regular. BASIS i have been further past.
Speaker 3: That i've been To. Mankato. Uh there was a there's
Speaker 3: a town way out, west almost To. COLORADO i can't
Speaker 3: remember the. NAME i watched my cousin play high school
Speaker 3: football there.
Speaker 1: Once it Was. Colby, Yeah, Colby kansas is the only
Speaker 1: town within four hours of the border THAT i could.
Speaker 1: Name it's right ON i seventy and let's say there
Speaker 1: once when we were going To. Colorado that was my
Speaker 1: dad grew up. There there's a photo of six year
Speaker 1: old me with my super COOL swi whim wings and,
Speaker 1: everything swimming in the holiday and pool In, Colby.
Speaker 2: Kansas that's probably the holiday in there is kind of
Speaker 2: all they have going for, Him is that?
Speaker 1: Right? Well i've lived In Johnson county my entire thirty
Speaker 1: years of. Life i've lived In oletha And Overland. Park
Speaker 1: my sister lives In. Wichita so we've done many a
Speaker 1: trips up and down thirty, five stopping In emporia to
Speaker 1: eat At, broms because what else would you do in In?
Speaker 1: Poria and then you go down it's not. Great imporia is.
Speaker 1: Awesome that's where my sister's getting married land and so
Speaker 1: we're gonna spend a lot of time In emporia over
Speaker 1: the next. YEAR i am as stoked AS i.
Speaker 2: Sound have.
Speaker 3: Fun i've spent a lot of time In.
Speaker 1: Emporia i've been In manhattan a couple of. Times, Yeah
Speaker 1: i've been To manhattan a couple of times for basketball,
Speaker 1: games been At, topeka you, know as all else Does.
Speaker 1: Lawrence i've been basically everywhere within like two miles Of Johnson.
Speaker 1: County what About? COFFEEVILLE i Think nick has been To.
Speaker 1: COFFEEVILLE i Think i've driven from Hutch. Nick nick was
Speaker 1: A hutchinson guy who went to School, washburn so he
Speaker 1: lived In, topeka so he kind of did the Central
Speaker 1: kansas Wing landon AND i are mainly the east, Part, Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah and then. West drove To colorado once as a
Speaker 1: six year. Old probably saw some cactuses out. There that's
Speaker 1: that's ALL i. Remember never, been never been, anywhere unless
Speaker 1: you count driving through and the night In. COLBY i
Speaker 1: don't Think i've ever been west Of. Manhattan.
Speaker 3: Interesting, Interesting i've been To Great. Bend dad's From Great.
Speaker 3: Bend been out there a little, bit, SO i, mean
Speaker 3: which is Not South.
Speaker 1: BEND i ALWAYS i always get them mixed. Up they are,
Speaker 1: different much, smaller And, kansas while being a very boring,
Speaker 1: state it could always be worse Because kansas is better Than.
Speaker 1: NEBRASKA i think that pretty. MUCH i was. Born there's
Speaker 1: that blows my mind every TIME i hear, that that
Speaker 1: fact That kansas is technically A. Nebraska, YEAH i MEAN
Speaker 1: i would not say it that.
Speaker 2: Way not hell, though. Dude my parents hated living. There
Speaker 2: when When nebraska lost in, football the people that fly
Speaker 2: their flags at half, Man i'm not even.
Speaker 1: Kidding, no that's. True at the. Time, YEAH i was
Speaker 1: gonna say the time that we were all, Born nebraska
Speaker 1: was was a freight training Football SO i definitely understand. That,
Speaker 1: yeah they are not now in case anybody was all
Speaker 1: they have their Du, yeah their quarterback jerks off to
Speaker 1: pictures Of Patrick. Mahomes CAN i say? That CAN i
Speaker 1: say that on the? Air feels like.
Speaker 3: Barely cracking the top one hundred worse Than, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Let's see IF i have something worse on the, soundboard
Speaker 1: have something?
Speaker 2: Worse ashtag ASCARCB, If Ryan landreth At ryan Under, Square
Speaker 2: landrith got handed a black and white picture Of osama
Speaker 2: Bin laden wearing a basketball uniform without the. Beard would
Speaker 2: you call him AN nba? Player, well he was.
Speaker 1: Tall that dude was like six foot. Six it was
Speaker 1: like six spot. Forward, yeah he could probably play.
Speaker 2: The most explosive player on the.
Speaker 1: Court oh my, Gosh well that you know? What on
Speaker 1: that note that so pod, ta, yeah you know? What
Speaker 1: landing there we Go, suddenly me saying that The nebraska
Speaker 1: quarterback jerks off to pictures Of Patrick mahomes is only
Speaker 1: the third worst thing that's been said in the last
Speaker 1: forty five.
Speaker 2: Seconds, well It's Bill soth starts On Marco jackson Over Darren.
Speaker 2: Peterson once this, Year i'll Turn january sixth into a
Speaker 2: child's pizza party on.
Speaker 1: That, no this has been inside the autism, on inside the.
Speaker 1: PAINT i Am Ryan.
Speaker 2: Lander i'm Lanning fields for some, reason AND i identify
Speaker 2: as the autism lobal puzzle.
Speaker 1: PIECE i Like.
Speaker 3: Sam's, calderon AND i don't care who.
Speaker 1: Knows oh, man they're gonna be WHY i can't say my.
Speaker 2: Name maybe A.
Speaker 3: J De bonsa will score thirty five, points though.
Speaker 1: Hey not A Bryson tiller is not down there defending the.
Speaker 2: PAINT i kind of like the idea of Getting Mitch
Speaker 2: lightfoot some extra eligibility just to throw him On De
Speaker 2: bonsa so we can build Soft look really.
Speaker 1: Confused now you're stop podcast, now and now you're you've
Speaker 1: crossed the. Line. CAM i can't do that.
Speaker 2: Anymore we have, standards.
Speaker 1: All. Right somebody, say, bye how are?
Speaker 3: You how do you ask?
Speaker 1: Me gus