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Speaker 2: as she customarily does, is Jackie Ray. Let's go beyond
Speaker 2: the box score, Jackie Ray.
Speaker 3: Good evening.
Speaker 2: Let's start with some professional football or adjacent to that.
Speaker 2: John Elway Hall of Famer, ye football legend news broke
Speaker 2: today that he will not be charged in the golf
Speaker 2: cart incident that killed his close friend and superagent Jeff Spurbeck.
Speaker 2: For those who don't know, it was being investigated investigated
Speaker 2: by Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco, who's also a candidate
Speaker 2: for governor, and he confirmed that his department's investigation into
Speaker 2: the golf cart incident that led to Spurbek's death found
Speaker 2: nothing criminal. And I don't think I'm not going to
Speaker 2: disagree with that because I'm not part of the investigation.
Speaker 2: But I always wonder when you have very powerful, influential people,
Speaker 2: and there are all sorts of incidences where you can
Speaker 2: go to the death of Natalie Wood and the boating accident, right,
Speaker 2: you just always naturally wonder when this story broke prior
Speaker 2: to them finding nothing of the fairase here, What did
Speaker 2: you think about the story?
Speaker 4: So I'm from Colorado and so very familiar with John Elway.
Speaker 4: My dad used to be his insurance agent for a time,
Speaker 4: so yeah, he was an insurance agent for John Elway
Speaker 4: and Steve School. So yeah, very familiar with him. And
Speaker 4: I just assumed, because of the knowledge that I have
Speaker 4: about him from just outside of football, I assumed that
Speaker 4: it would at least be some negligence because he was
Speaker 4: probably drinking.
Speaker 2: You say probably drinking because we know as a fact
Speaker 2: that they were leaving a party, yes.
Speaker 3: And we know they both drink.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and John Elway is no stranger to having a
Speaker 4: very fond relationship with alcohol. So I just assumed at minimum,
Speaker 4: I don't think that this was something you know, try
Speaker 4: horse plays, probably just goofing around, you know. I didn't
Speaker 4: think it would be anything nefarious, but I definitely thought
Speaker 4: negligence would be at least, you know, some sort of
Speaker 4: charge in that and what that would have meant for him.
Speaker 4: I didn't I don't think it would have met any
Speaker 4: jail time or anything like that, but definitely would have
Speaker 4: found him guilty of some sort of negligence.
Speaker 2: For people who don't know, Spurbeck was not riding in
Speaker 2: the golf cart. He was standing on the back with
Speaker 2: one other person who was also standing. John Oway's wife
Speaker 2: was in the golf seat next to him. Now, it's
Speaker 2: from what I understand, there were five people on this cart,
Speaker 2: which I don't think is bad for five.
Speaker 4: Also tells you that everybody was probably drinking because it
Speaker 4: was only made for two people.
Speaker 3: That goes back to negligence as well, right.
Speaker 4: Right, So at some point it's like, what responsibility do
Speaker 4: you have when you have this golf cart that's only
Speaker 4: built for two people? Do you say, And this is
Speaker 4: a question that I would ask people, even when you
Speaker 4: are completely sober, when all your friends are walking back
Speaker 4: from something, is this something that you don't say, Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: I just jump off like and then if something happened,
Speaker 4: are you negligent in that?
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 4: Again, I don't think it was nefarious in any way,
Speaker 4: but definitely negligent.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think there was any moment where you're doing
Speaker 2: something where you're consciously putting your friend in danger. Right,
Speaker 2: he may have just slipped off the back and fell
Speaker 2: and hit.
Speaker 4: His head, and why the old man was standing instead
Speaker 4: of sitting as crazy to me.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna have his wife's stand?
Speaker 4: Well, somebody needed somebody who if they fell off, would
Speaker 4: be less likely to have a devastating injury.
Speaker 3: Should have been standing.
Speaker 2: But you're thinking soberly correct and you're thinking clearly this
Speaker 2: was after a party.
Speaker 3: They were leaving a party.
Speaker 2: They're actually pictures of Lway and Spurbek holding wine glasses together, imposing.
Speaker 2: So there is a reasonable assumption, right that alcohol was
Speaker 2: part of the equation, not all of it, and it
Speaker 2: may not have been connected to even him falling and slipping,
Speaker 2: or it may have been that, yeah, he Spurbek was
Speaker 2: drunk and that maybe why why Yeah, Yeah, it could
Speaker 2: be a combination of things. It's just one of those
Speaker 2: things where there's always a part of me which makes
Speaker 2: me wonder because I know for a fact, and I
Speaker 2: can't say all the reasons why that prominent sports.
Speaker 4: Figures are covered for yes, the one hundred percent. I
Speaker 4: actually had a David Cowboy fans would know him David
Speaker 4: Irvin on my podcast that'll be out shortly, and he
Speaker 4: talked about all the ways that he was covered when
Speaker 4: he would partake in cannabis and how he was told, hey,
Speaker 4: we're gonna mark you whatever. They marked him so he
Speaker 4: wouldn't show up to practice that day so he didn't
Speaker 4: have to get drug tested. So there's all kinds of
Speaker 4: ways that people in the sports world cover their athletes,
Speaker 4: especially now. They might not do that for you if
Speaker 4: you're coming off the bench and you're not good, are you?
Speaker 2: But if you're a yeah, Hall of famer, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I'll tell you a conspiracy theory, m
Speaker 2: but I almost believed it because of who this person
Speaker 2: was at the time. Okay, cal Ripkin Junior was playing
Speaker 2: for the Baltimore Oriols, and if you know anything about
Speaker 2: cal Ripton Junior, he was chasing Lou Gegg's consecutive game streak.
Speaker 2: I was working for Jim Rome at the time, and
Speaker 2: I won't say who because it was a prominent baseball executive.
Speaker 2: But that person told me that he didn't believe that
Speaker 2: cal Ripkin had genuinely beaten lou Garrick's streak because there
Speaker 2: was a question about one night.
Speaker 3: Now, this is all.
Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory, so I'm not you know, this is what
Speaker 2: was told to me that cal Ripton got liquored up
Speaker 2: and did something something something, got put in jail and
Speaker 2: was unable to play. The next day, the organization covered
Speaker 2: for him. Again, it's just a conspiracy theory. It's not
Speaker 2: going to change the record or anything. But this was
Speaker 2: coming from someone who was relatively in the know.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: It's only a conspiracy theory because nobody's coming out with
Speaker 4: the proof proof right.
Speaker 2: But if it does come out years later in some documentary,
Speaker 2: just know that that it had legs many years before.
Speaker 3: R right.
Speaker 4: But that's you know, that's called protecting your brand. It's
Speaker 4: not good for the brand.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: We can debate all day, every day and twice on
Speaker 4: Sunday if it's actually good for the individual because they
Speaker 4: get used to being coddled in such such a way
Speaker 4: and that could potentially increase bad habits that can affect
Speaker 4: you later on in life or in an incident like this.
Speaker 4: So I'm not saying it's a good thing. But protecting
Speaker 4: the brand is something most companies do.
Speaker 2: Right, and sometimes it gets so big that they can't
Speaker 2: right exactly. I remember Jim Orsay, now recently departed, got
Speaker 2: into some incidents of dui in sense and it got
Speaker 2: to be so big that they.
Speaker 4: Couldn't cover it right, right, The Dallas Mavericks the situation
Speaker 4: there with the harassment that got so big that no
Speaker 4: longer can cover it up, but somebody had been trying
Speaker 4: for a while, So yeah, always got to protect the brand.
Speaker 4: And in this case, I think the positive in this
Speaker 4: situation is because they were such good friends and they've
Speaker 4: known each other for so long. I don't know if
Speaker 4: there's any punished that they could have put on John
Speaker 4: Elway that was going to be worse than the punishment
Speaker 4: that he's probably feeling himself. So I mean, I get
Speaker 4: justice might not have necessarily been served, but I'm sure
Speaker 4: as far as like the family and stuff, he is
Speaker 4: doing things on his own, So I'm not sure that
Speaker 4: there's any punishment that could have matched what he's doing
Speaker 4: to himself.
Speaker 2: Speaking of punishment, we told you about the story of
Speaker 2: Joy Taylor and Foxfort Yes and how the lawsuit which
Speaker 2: came for which allege that Joy Taylor, among other things,
Speaker 2: was sleeping with an executive that which opened the door
Speaker 2: for her TV show which has now been canceled.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about that when we come back to do it.
Speaker 2: And also Laila Ali is she getting back in the
Speaker 2: boxes better than not. Well, she's saying they offer the
Speaker 2: right money. She might at the age of we'll she
Speaker 2: walk out. We'll find out sixty Live everywhere in the
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2: I Am six forty is Later Moll Kelly. We're live
Speaker 2: everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. And I got to tell
Speaker 2: you I enjoy speaking with Jackie Ray because I like
Speaker 2: talking about sports, but I don't want to get into
Speaker 2: all the stats and everything. I like the things circling
Speaker 2: around sports. And we told you some time ago, a
Speaker 2: few months ago about a lawsuit in which former now
Speaker 2: former Fox Sports television host Joy Taylor was named in
Speaker 2: a lawsuit which was filed by an ex employee, where
Speaker 2: Taylor allegedly told makeup artists Nushan Faraji, the person who
Speaker 2: filed the lawsuit, to get over the sexual harassment that
Speaker 2: she had been a victim of, allegedly and also by
Speaker 2: programming executive Charlie Dixon, who allegedly Taylor was in a
Speaker 2: longtime sexual relationship with Dixon, who is also married, that
Speaker 2: scandal I told you watched very closely is going to
Speaker 2: be very important. And it was announced today that Joey
Speaker 2: Taylor was either fired or her contract was not renewed,
Speaker 2: depending on how you look at at it, and the
Speaker 2: show that she was on those hosts Keishawn Johnson and
Speaker 2: Paul Pierce. That show was I think it was called
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Ball and the facility were also canceled.
Speaker 3: What do you make of this?
Speaker 2: Do you do you connect it to the lawsuit or
Speaker 2: am I connecting dots which aren't there?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: No, it's absolutely connected. This is again what we just
Speaker 4: talked about in the last segment, protecting the brand. So
Speaker 4: do I think that this wasn't common knowledge before the
Speaker 4: lawsuit was filed? I absolutely do not. There's always you
Speaker 4: and I have been in this business long enough to
Speaker 4: know there's very few secrets in close quarters like that,
Speaker 4: right right I.
Speaker 2: May not be spoken of, but you kind of know.
Speaker 2: Some of it is rumor and conjecture, some of it.
Speaker 4: Is fact, and some of it is just blatantly obvious.
Speaker 1: I e.
Speaker 4: Your holiday party, that's where you literally find out a
Speaker 4: lot of tea some of the time. And it's not
Speaker 4: just about who can drink the most. Just since y'all
Speaker 4: keep backing that bus up over if.
Speaker 2: You're not aware, in the moviegos motown Chat, they are
Speaker 2: still discussing Chateau le Mo, the sare and how Jack
Speaker 2: Ray Daniels look.
Speaker 4: I just passed around the love nobody turned it down.
Speaker 4: So but now take that for example, if something had crazy,
Speaker 4: it happened, well, we have downplayed it, probably because it's
Speaker 4: not nobody's business, right, But if it affects the brand,
Speaker 4: it doesn't affect the brand until it affects the brand.
Speaker 4: And this is what this lawsuit did. So I think
Speaker 4: ESPN is just covering their tracks right now.
Speaker 3: You mean Fox? I mean, I'm sorry Fox. We don't
Speaker 3: want to throw them money. Yeah, we done. Sorry, bad bad,
Speaker 3: But staying right there.
Speaker 2: As far as women in sports, not necessarily sports media,
Speaker 2: but actual sports, Leila Ali, I don't know how serious
Speaker 2: she was. We know that she's undefeated, Phenom had last
Speaker 2: boxed two thousand and seven years ago. She threw it
Speaker 2: out to that she would be willing to come out
Speaker 2: of retirement and fight and fight Clarissa t Rex Shields
Speaker 2: for the right amount.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would fight Mike Tyson for the right I'm
Speaker 3: gonna run around the ring.
Speaker 2: But if you put one hundred million dollars out there
Speaker 2: and I can go out there and with some head gear, yeah,
Speaker 2: and a and a baseball bat, I might take my
Speaker 2: chances for thirty seconds.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Tyson will knock me out if he can catch me.
Speaker 4: But he's not gonna catch me on first pick.
Speaker 2: The first time he hits me, him going down like Sunday,
Speaker 2: that'll be it. And you can say what you want
Speaker 2: about me. But Laila a La said, yeah, for fifteen
Speaker 2: to twenty million, I come out of retirement, and before
Speaker 2: people just laughed it off. Remember we're in the world
Speaker 2: of Jake Paul right What I mean of that, the
Speaker 2: world of exhibitions where you have the older, more venerable,
Speaker 2: respected fighter fighting the up and coming young buck what
Speaker 2: have you.
Speaker 4: It's about spectacle, right I. So here's my think thinking
Speaker 4: on this one. And this is gonna be this is
Speaker 4: just conjecture, This is just my opinion. Layla was what
Speaker 4: was he twenty one fights, no losses, twenty knockouts something
Speaker 4: like that. Yeah, it's Banana's her record. You don't come
Speaker 4: out of retirement and try to tarnish that and not
Speaker 4: unless you broke. That's my opinion. I feel like this
Speaker 4: is a money thing.
Speaker 2: Would you start with no, no, no, no. I want to
Speaker 2: protect my legacy or something. I want to show that
Speaker 2: I'm the all time greatest, right, that's what they know.
Speaker 2: She said, no, No, You're gonna come up with the money,
Speaker 2: A whole bunch of money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, on top of that. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: do that if I were here. Before I got here,
Speaker 4: I looked up to see if Clarissa had issued a response,
Speaker 4: and she did, and the response was crazy, let me
Speaker 4: see if I can find it. But she basically just said,
Speaker 4: you know what, I've been wanting to put you in
Speaker 4: your place. You're one hundred and seventy five pounds and
Speaker 4: forty seven. I will knock you out. And she would.
Speaker 4: I mean, she is an amazing fighter as well. And
Speaker 4: the reality of it is is like people once they
Speaker 4: passed And I think this is an athlete problem because
Speaker 4: we see this at every sport. Once people pass their prime,
Speaker 4: they have a hard time accepting that they are past
Speaker 4: their prime.
Speaker 2: Darryl Sexton in the Motown Chat says, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: slow down. How long of a layoff did George Foreman
Speaker 2: have when he came back in the nineties and regained
Speaker 2: the heavyweight championship of the world, and he was, if
Speaker 2: I remember correctly, forty seven he was.
Speaker 3: Is that the exception which proves the rule? No, it's
Speaker 3: just the exception. It's just the exception. Well, I guess
Speaker 3: the rule is, yeah, you know, you're two damn old to.
Speaker 4: Becoming and why would you even want to suggest? And
Speaker 4: the thing is for me, if she had just said, hey,
Speaker 4: like if they had been beefing on X or whatever,
Speaker 4: and then she was like, all right, we're gonna have
Speaker 4: to put your money where your mouth is. That's fine, Okay,
Speaker 4: I get it. But the price tag to me says
Speaker 4: this isn't really about protecting her legacy as much as
Speaker 4: it is protecting her bank account.
Speaker 3: It's a payday fifteen to twenty million for someone.
Speaker 2: Who has not fought in at least seventeen years, isn't it?
Speaker 3: Even though it was undefeated.
Speaker 2: But we can't say that she is credibly one of
Speaker 2: the best in the world anymore?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And how could she be? You're not?
Speaker 4: People forget like the training that you do when you're
Speaker 4: active in your sport, is it? It's insane. There's no
Speaker 4: way she's training right now the same way she was
Speaker 4: training when she was fighting. Why would she.
Speaker 2: Nobody is as good at forty seven as the word
Speaker 2: twenty four. And I say that very humbly, right as
Speaker 2: someone who's practiced martial arts and competing.
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm sorry, I'm not the same fighter I was.
Speaker 4: No ilso don't like working out like it's not fun.
Speaker 3: It's not fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to go sit down somewhere as we're.
Speaker 2: Talking about the elite athlete. Now, was she an elite athlete? Absolutely? Absolutely,
Speaker 2: but that was maybe three presidents ago, no four presidents.
Speaker 4: I think I think her bigger concern, and again this
Speaker 4: is just my opinion, y'all, and I love Leila Ali,
Speaker 4: but I think her bigger concern should be why isn't
Speaker 4: she working? Why isn't she commentating boxing like the men
Speaker 4: the women's Like there's something going on, whether it's a
Speaker 4: personality thing, ego or whatever. This woman should be commentating
Speaker 4: about boxing. We should be seeing her ringside. She shouldn't
Speaker 4: be asking for this kind of pay day because she
Speaker 4: should be getting paid right.
Speaker 2: She should be one of the loudest voices within female
Speaker 2: boxing community. Yes, not only does she have the pedigree
Speaker 2: and the name recognition just herself Leila Ali and of
Speaker 2: course the daughter of muhammadad right, but she was one of.
Speaker 3: The of the.
Speaker 2: Not necessar the forerunners, but the torch bearers of women's boxing.
Speaker 4: She made women's boxing relevant. She made it a sport
Speaker 4: that everybody, both men and women, looked at as oh,
Speaker 4: this is legitimate. She is a legitimately good fighter, full stop,
Speaker 4: so that legacy. No one can ever take that legacy
Speaker 4: away from her. So again, I think this should be
Speaker 4: a bigger She's She might need the money, I still
Speaker 4: stand by that, but let's listen, but let's figure out
Speaker 4: a way that we can get you paid consistently and
Speaker 4: still have your name be relevant in the sports you
Speaker 4: can you clearly still love without you having a step
Speaker 4: in the ring.
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Speaker 3: Jackiu Ray, what are you working on on the Jackuary Show?
Speaker 4: So I have the David Irvin podcast coming out with
Speaker 4: the JACKU Ray Show, but that one, I'm really excited
Speaker 4: for people to hear because what he's talking about is
Speaker 4: the amount of pain that he was in as an
Speaker 4: athlete and how he chose not to take like the
Speaker 4: prescription drugs that most people get because he saw the
Speaker 4: addictions and things like that that come with those kinds
Speaker 4: of things. So he went, you know, the marijuana route,
Speaker 4: and then that's why he was covered for. But now
Speaker 4: he's trying to branch out and he's partnered with another
Speaker 4: company that does like holistic healing and he's trying to
Speaker 4: bring that to the public. So I'm excited for people
Speaker 4: to hear that one.
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Speaker 4: With I don't know, but but you know, y'all talk
Speaker 4: about me and drinking y'all read my name.
Speaker 3: Are also real quick. There's two things going on, talking
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Speaker 3: fans tonight too.
Speaker 4: Oh I got some fans.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, they are complimenting. You have some stalkers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you have some stalkers. Some folks want people are trying
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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