1 00:00:17,559 --> 00:00:20,559 Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference, 2 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,960 the podcast for All Sports Discussion dot Com. This is Jeff. 3 00:00:26,039 --> 00:00:29,120 You can follow me on X at Talkin' a c 4 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:32,920 C Sports. That's at t A l k I N 5 00:00:33,119 --> 00:00:37,560 A c C S p O r t S. Your 6 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,479 moderator is Matthew and you can follow him on X 7 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,200 at All Sports d A c C. That's at a 8 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,679 l L S p O r T S d A 9 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:51,880 c C and that is also our site Twitter account 10 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,359 for All Sportsdiscussion dot Com. I'm going to turn it 11 00:00:55,399 --> 00:00:58,679 over to Matthew now as he introduces our guest, and 12 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:01,439 we're all ready to we're all ready to speak, Matthew. 13 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: Yes, all right tonight we have a great return guest 14 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,560 and James Curl, who you can follow on Twitter at 15 00:01:07,599 --> 00:01:11,040 at James Curl. He's been a great friend of the podcast. 16 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:14,200 Let me spell that Twitter. I'm gonna call it I'm 17 00:01:14,239 --> 00:01:16,159 ever gonna call it X. I'm sorry, I'll call it 18 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,000 Twitter at James Curl. That's at JA MA sc U 19 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,959 r l E. Again, that's at j A m E 20 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,480 s c U r l E. He's currently at pac Pride, 21 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,799 which is the two four to seven Sports North Carolinas 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,480 State fan site. It is not affiliated with a university, 23 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,319 and boy, he has an incredible history at several other platforms. 24 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,719 Welcome tonight, James, and welcome every night that you've been here. 25 00:01:46,719 --> 00:01:48,519 You've been here for panels, you've been here as a 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,439 guest co host, you've been here as a panelist. You 27 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:57,079 have been at mister Everything for all sportsdiscussion dot com 28 00:01:57,079 --> 00:01:59,799 when it comes to NC State and the ACC. So James, 29 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:03,239 welcome and thank you for spending your Sunday night with us. 30 00:02:03,799 --> 00:02:06,000 Tell us a little more about yourself, James. I know 31 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,439 you were at other platforms before you were at two 32 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:11,039 four seven sports. The floor is yours. Thanks again for 33 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,360 spending your Sunday night with us. 34 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 3: Sure, I appreciate you guys having me back as always. Yeah, 35 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,120 I mean, you know, lifelong State fan, went to school there, 36 00:02:22,479 --> 00:02:27,400 covered the team with the student paper and a variety 37 00:02:27,479 --> 00:02:30,919 of you know, freelance jobs. Then started a podcast in 38 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,240 twenty eleven called the Riddick and Reynolds Podcast and did 39 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,280 that for five years and then took a break for 40 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,439 a bit, and then Corey at Pack Pride reached out 41 00:02:39,479 --> 00:02:42,360 to me and said, hey, I'd love to you know, 42 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:45,400 do a weekly show with you, and we were able 43 00:02:45,439 --> 00:02:50,080 to fire that up. The crazy thing is that we 44 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:55,199 are honing in on having done almost as many shows 45 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,319 Corey and I together through Pack Pride as I did 46 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:02,840 with the first podcast around. So it's been a you know, 47 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,360 I've podcasting still in some ways feels kind of new, 48 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:10,759 but I am one of the lucky for you who 49 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:13,479 kind of jumped in early and started doing it way 50 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,639 back in twenty eleven, and so it's kind of wild 51 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,599 to see how big the space has grown over the years. 52 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,240 But you know, I've been podcasting with you guys since 53 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,960 the Riddick and Rental States, so you guys have been 54 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,840 around quite a while in the game as well. So 55 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:32,360 always always a good time to chump on and talk 56 00:03:32,439 --> 00:03:35,879 some in C state sports with you ACC sports, even 57 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:37,439 when my team's not doing so hot. 58 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,879 Speaker 2: Well, thanks again for joining us, And I'll mention one 59 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,599 other thing that maybe some of our listeners might not remember, 60 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:44,479 but I know you do. 61 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,159 Speaker 3: James. 62 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: You also were part of a brief Google hangout when 63 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,400 that was hot within the Triangle, right, Yeah there was. 64 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:00,759 Speaker 3: It was sponsored by a local barbecue chain called Smithfields, 65 00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:05,560 and yeah it was you know, it's me and Dimitri 66 00:04:05,759 --> 00:04:10,319 Ravanos and Ben Swain and Maryland Payne. I think it 67 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,599 was part of it at one point in time. You know, 68 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,920 there's a just kind of a neat, little collective of 69 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:22,759 some of the local triangle media, traditional and non traditional outlets. 70 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,399 And that was a lot of fun too. It's, you know, 71 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,120 kind of wild to think how many years has been, 72 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,800 but that was a that was kind of when Twitter 73 00:04:35,879 --> 00:04:40,079 and podcasting was kind of all peaking around the same time, 74 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,040 and it was it was a really fun thing to 75 00:04:42,079 --> 00:04:44,759 be a part of. And I had a lot of 76 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:48,759 fun with that. I would print up these fake locations 77 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,519 in the back of my wall and pretend like it 78 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,160 was rural North Carolina, you know, like the Leaning Tower 79 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,240 of Pisa and all that nonsense. You know, it was 80 00:04:57,319 --> 00:04:59,360 it was a great opportunity to just kind of cut 81 00:04:59,439 --> 00:05:01,519 up and have a good time covering sports. 82 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:05,199 Speaker 2: I have a heck of a good memory, don't I. 83 00:05:05,319 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: James, Indeed, indeed. 84 00:05:08,519 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: All right, right, let's get right to it, man. This 85 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:14,399 is We're reviewing ACC football week six, and we're going 86 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,160 to preview week seven tonight on the podcast along with 87 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,199 some national college football. So we want to first discuss 88 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:25,959 ACC week six who was the most disappointing ACC football team? 89 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,600 And Week six? And on the flip side, who was 90 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:31,040 your most impressive ACC football? 91 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,519 Speaker 3: Well, I don't have to go very far to find 92 00:05:34,519 --> 00:05:39,360 my most disappointing team. I think they reside in Raleigh. 93 00:05:40,639 --> 00:05:45,360 Just a really tough loss to Wake Forest in a 94 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:48,839 game where we started slow and then came back and 95 00:05:49,319 --> 00:05:52,079 led by ten in the fourth quarter and then just 96 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,000 let slip away there at the end. You know, I 97 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,519 just we have struggled all year long offensively, trying to 98 00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:03,759 figure things out. Defense has not been hot either, but 99 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,439 we looked much better defensively against Northern Illinois the week before. 100 00:06:08,519 --> 00:06:10,680 It felt like maybe we were getting on the right 101 00:06:10,759 --> 00:06:17,079 track there. But you know, Grayson McCall gets knocked out 102 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,319 of the game pretty early, which sets up Wake for 103 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,680 an easy touchdown. And you know CJ. Bailey, who had 104 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,279 started the previous two games, came in relief and looked, 105 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,000 you know, decent. I would say thankful that he had 106 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,600 had some opportunities to come in and was not exactly 107 00:06:37,639 --> 00:06:42,439 coming into the situation completely cold. But just you know, 108 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,920 Wake had just had a really down year defensively, and 109 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,680 you felt like this was going to be a game 110 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,879 where in c State could get things going on the 111 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,839 offensive side of things just never could and you know, 112 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,199 to give up, you know, some late scores there to 113 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:04,480 you know, you know you're up thirty to twenty again 114 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:07,160 in the fourth quarter, you give it too late touchdowns 115 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,079 and it just really was miserable. It was a miserable 116 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,519 experience to watch. You know. My dad had come up 117 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:19,040 for my birthday and we watched a you know, the 118 00:07:19,079 --> 00:07:21,519 game together. You know, that was a rare thing. Me 119 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,560 and my dad never really watched State games together. And 120 00:07:25,839 --> 00:07:29,879 it was funny because we'd come back to take the 121 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,279 lead and I could feel it, as in a State fan, 122 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,240 I can feel it when things are starting to go 123 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:39,600 south and it's going to be bad. And he's sitting 124 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:42,120 beside me, he's like, no, it's all right, James, look good. 125 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,360 They've they've taken the lead. They've got this in hand. 126 00:07:44,399 --> 00:07:50,680 Everything's gonna be fine. And I wasn't like mean or 127 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:54,519 angry or poudy about it. I was like, no, this 128 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,920 is I got a feeling. I just know I know 129 00:07:58,079 --> 00:08:00,920 this is going to go south. And he thought I 130 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,360 was silly, And then by the end of the game, 131 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:07,000 I ended up being right. So the lesson for my 132 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,959 dad is trust the lifelong State fan when they know 133 00:08:10,079 --> 00:08:13,639 when things are going to go south. I would say 134 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,839 we had to be, you know, right there at the 135 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:19,839 top of the list of disappointing ACC teams. I mean, 136 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:23,920 Florida State continues to disappoint, but that's not really a surprise. 137 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,319 I mean, maybe Louisville losing, but SMU has shown that 138 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:30,360 they're a pretty good football team based on what they 139 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,279 did against Florida State the week before. You know, maybe 140 00:08:34,279 --> 00:08:37,480 you could say it was BC, but you know, I'm 141 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,039 I'm always going to kind of start looking from the 142 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,639 inside and work my way out. And it's it's really 143 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,919 hard to find a better contender for most disappointing team 144 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:47,600 than the CEE State. 145 00:08:47,639 --> 00:08:51,399 Speaker 2: This way outstanding comprehensive answer. And I am glad that 146 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:55,600 you brought up Louisville, James, because I have noticed something 147 00:08:55,639 --> 00:08:59,080 about them in the last couple of games. They can't 148 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,919 defend a more quarterback to save their lives. 149 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,879 Speaker 3: James, Well, it makes me wish we had one. I 150 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:12,840 don't know, Uh, it's there's just you know in I 151 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,120 l and the transfer portal has really shifted so many 152 00:09:17,159 --> 00:09:21,799 pieces around. Uh, and it will always unless there's major 153 00:09:21,879 --> 00:09:24,960 sweeping changes to in I L and or the portal coming. 154 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,559 I think it's going to be this way that you know, 155 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,679 you just every year is going to be a new 156 00:09:34,519 --> 00:09:37,639 a new resetting of your expectations for a team. It's 157 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,559 going to be harder kind of you know, figure out 158 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,840 like like again, thinking of NC State as an example, 159 00:09:46,039 --> 00:09:50,440 you know, Tony Gibson, our defensive coordinator, somebody that's been 160 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,120 you know, in high demand, uh during his time here 161 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,120 in NC State. We've made, you know, a lucrative offer 162 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,759 to keep him here, which I think is a wiser 163 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,559 because he always puts the defense out there that does 164 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,759 an excellent job of stuffing stopping excuse me, stopping the run. 165 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,159 You know, he starts there and then kind of allows 166 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:19,000 his playmakers behind to go to work. And this year, 167 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,799 just defensively we have and you know, obviously you lose 168 00:10:23,799 --> 00:10:26,200 a guy like Peyton Wilson, you're gonna take a step 169 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:31,360 back defensively, but just pieces that have been here before 170 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,320 are underperforming. Guy. We didn't really bring in a whole 171 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,960 lot through the transfer portal, but we didn't necessarily lose 172 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,600 a whole lot either. It's just I really expected this 173 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,840 defensive unit to play. You know, if last year was 174 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,279 an A or borderline A plus effort defensively, especially from 175 00:10:53,279 --> 00:10:56,240 the linebacker position, I expected to get like a B 176 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,320 or B plus from this unit this year, just knowing 177 00:10:59,399 --> 00:11:02,799 the track record of Tony Gibson and his defenses, and 178 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,840 just really hasn't performed that way. And guys are missing 179 00:11:06,879 --> 00:11:09,919 their assignments and gaps. I mean we saw that in 180 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,200 one of the touchdowns laid against wake Forest just you know, 181 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:19,639 once you know, Demon Claiborne got past the line of scrimmage, 182 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,720 he was untouched. And it's just because there was you know, 183 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:28,360 guys were missing assignments that weren't covering their gaps and 184 00:11:29,399 --> 00:11:33,399 just uncharacteristic. And again I'm pinning that on Nil and 185 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,200 the portal maybe in some ways, even though, like I said, 186 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,840 we didn't have a whole lot of defections and we 187 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,799 didn't really add in a whole lot of pieces. But 188 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,720 I just feel like every team is resetting now on 189 00:11:42,759 --> 00:11:44,519 a year by year basis, and it's going to be 190 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,799 harder to kind of anticipate that. Like, Okay, you're facing 191 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,200 off against NC State, Therefore, you know that you can 192 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:54,200 expect this on defense and this on offense. Especially on 193 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,799 the offense. NC State just really has not developed any 194 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,080 sort of identity and we're now full halfway through the 195 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:05,200 season and then we still don't know what we're doing offensively. 196 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:06,399 It's frustrating. 197 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,919 Speaker 2: An outstanding takes. So let's go on the flip side. 198 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,240 Who are your most to Who is your most impressive 199 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:14,240 ACC Football team of the week for Week six? 200 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, it's hard to put. You know, 201 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:27,080 you got to give Miami credit for coming back in 202 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,480 the game where they were dead in the water. They 203 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,240 continue to find ways to win in the last minute. 204 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:40,919 I know, heartbreaking for you guys letting that game flip away. Yeah, 205 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:47,759 so I'm sure that's you know, not how Miami chooses 206 00:12:47,799 --> 00:12:50,200 to play these games. It just is working out that way. 207 00:12:50,799 --> 00:12:53,759 But you do have to get them credit for doing that. 208 00:12:54,879 --> 00:12:57,159 In what I think is going to be, you know, 209 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,480 a big challenge for any team that has to travel 210 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:03,000 to calor to Stanford is you know, going cross country, 211 00:13:03,039 --> 00:13:08,039 dealing with that element of playing a conference opponent against 212 00:13:08,039 --> 00:13:13,840 a team halfway across the world. You know, Clemson continues 213 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:17,440 to look really really strong. I mean it ended up 214 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,879 being a sixteen point margin. But I watched some of 215 00:13:19,879 --> 00:13:24,039 that Clemson game early and just Florida State had nothing 216 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:29,679 and Clemson just looks, you know, really really strong. I 217 00:13:29,759 --> 00:13:32,519 am as surprised as anybody by that fact, because I thought, 218 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,639 based on how Kate Glubnick looked last year, that he 219 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,759 was just going to be, you know, be minus at best, 220 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,600 and he has really taken another step forward and they're 221 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:49,759 doing things offensively that I didn't anticipate. Virginia gets kudos 222 00:13:49,799 --> 00:13:53,879 for beating a Boston College team that I have thought 223 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:59,960 highly of. You know, Pitt, I thank you for being 224 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,320 Carolina first and foremost. I appreciate it always whenever Carolina 225 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:09,519 takes a loss. But you know, they are undefeated and 226 00:14:10,279 --> 00:14:14,000 finally sneaking into the top twenty five. It took forever 227 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,039 for the AP voters to catch up to the fact 228 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:20,440 that Pitt was undefeated. But you know, they are a 229 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,360 team that I'm interested in seeing how they continue to 230 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,360 develop because you know, they brought in as their offensive 231 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,440 coordinator the coordinator from Western Carolina, a team that we 232 00:14:32,519 --> 00:14:36,720 faced earlier this year, and I think that kid is 233 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,159 He's going to be a name to watch as an 234 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:44,720 offensive coordinator. Talent. I not to go off too far 235 00:14:44,759 --> 00:14:48,120 on a tangent, but I'm seeing Pitt do things offensively 236 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:51,279 that I kind of wish Dave Dorn would allow Robert 237 00:14:51,279 --> 00:14:58,279 and I to do offensively. I don't know if it's 238 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,840 that Dave Dorn is not uh is like handcuffing an 239 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:05,639 eye or or what, or just if he's if he's 240 00:15:05,679 --> 00:15:07,360 telling and eye that he wants to do things a 241 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,639 certain way or has certain expectations. But you know, it's 242 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,399 now a decade plus here at NC State, and just 243 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,200 it feels like, regardless of who the offensive coordinator is here, 244 00:15:21,399 --> 00:15:25,320 we we tend to have, you know, the offensive coordinator 245 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,639 seems to be coaching with ankle weights on for whatever reason. 246 00:15:29,559 --> 00:15:33,320 And you know, Pit or excuse me, patent ordoozy almost 247 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,559 kind of Pitt and ardoozy. You know, he's a guy 248 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,279 who notoriously likes to play old school football, and it's 249 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,759 it's exciting to see that Pitt is able to break 250 00:15:43,799 --> 00:15:46,960 out of that with the right hire. So I don't know, 251 00:15:47,039 --> 00:15:49,639 I don't know if that's wishful thinking that Nancy State 252 00:15:49,679 --> 00:15:53,519 can have a similar fortune reset offensively in the future 253 00:15:53,559 --> 00:15:57,279 at some point. But you know, there pitt Pit's looking 254 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:02,919 really good, so, you know, and kudos to Georgia Tech 255 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:07,200 for beating a Duke team that, you know, again undefeated. 256 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,840 I think they were probably the weakest of the undefeated teams, 257 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,440 especially among the conference teams. But you know, it's it's 258 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:23,240 not you know, it's not worth or it is worth 259 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,039 acknowledging the fact that Georgia Tech did get a nice 260 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,960 win against Duke as well. So that's kind of my 261 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:32,960 rundown on it there. I don't know if that answered 262 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,519 the question adequately or not, but I did. 263 00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:39,679 Speaker 2: It was hell Hella comprehensive. Is Metallica would say. The 264 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,759 one thing I had too is that I mean, and 265 00:16:42,799 --> 00:16:45,000 you brought this that before you're going to the going 266 00:16:45,039 --> 00:16:47,120 to the West coast. I thought that that win that 267 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,519 Syracuse got over a u n l V team, which 268 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,039 was kind of a very sneaky road trip. Un LV 269 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,799 was in the top twenty five. Getting that win an 270 00:16:56,879 --> 00:16:58,840 ot was a pretty bit, pretty big for that for 271 00:16:58,919 --> 00:17:02,240 the Syracuse Orange and they if they keep finding themselves 272 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,759 winning James and Jeff, they could find them. They could 273 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:07,799 also find their way back into the top twenty five 274 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,319 like Pitton SMU. 275 00:17:10,759 --> 00:17:14,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, Syracuse is gonna be. I think that's who we 276 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,359 face next week if I'm not mistaken, and I'm not 277 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,079 looking forward to that one bit. I mean we're hosting them. 278 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:25,039 But yeah, Syracuse is I think exceeded expectations with their 279 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:29,359 first year head coach, so it'll be a tough one 280 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:30,640 when they come to town next week. 281 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: And they have a sneakingly underrated, really good quarterback. He's 282 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:47,200 a study, He's a stud. Jeff, you're upread. 283 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: All right, thanks, Matthew James. Which ACC football game are 284 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,279 you looking forward to the most in Week seven? 285 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 3: Well, outside of our matchup against Syracuse. You know, you know, 286 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,640 it's not a huge It looks like, I mean, unless 287 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,640 my math is wrong, here looks like we've only got 288 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,279 twelve teams in action, and that includes Notre Dame, which 289 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:24,599 is not really an ACC team. So maybe it looks 290 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,359 like this is where kind of the week where a 291 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:33,839 lot of the buys fell. So you know, I'm trying 292 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:37,720 to spot a game here that might be tricky or 293 00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:43,880 upset potential. I mean, cal traveling east to face Pitt. 294 00:18:44,519 --> 00:18:48,119 I mean, there's a potential that that could be a 295 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,440 nutset special. Looks like Pit's only three and a half 296 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,359 point favorite there. You know, it'll be interesting to see 297 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,720 if cal can respond to letting one slip away like 298 00:18:59,759 --> 00:19:04,119 they against Miami, especially after the high of hosting Game 299 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:09,279 Day and all the excitement around the calgorithm and being 300 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,200 kind of the in some ways, the focal point of 301 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:18,200 the sport for a weekend. You know, I don't think 302 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:22,400 Louisville should. You know, they're going to be trying to 303 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,880 bounce back, but I think heading to Virginia could be 304 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,720 tricky for them. I don't see Stanford beaten Notre Dame. 305 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,880 I would love to see Georgia Tech get a road 306 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:41,720 win against Carolina. Obviously, you know, based on the way 307 00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:46,480 Clemson has played, I see no reason to expect that 308 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,440 Wake will give them much of a fight. I mean, 309 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,440 it looks like the line based on ESPN's website is 310 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,160 twenty and a half, which you know, you're talking three 311 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:04,279 touchdown favorite on the roads. Is you remarkable? So yeah, 312 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:08,640 I might be looking at those, you know, the Pit game, 313 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,920 and maybe that Virginia game is one to keep an 314 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:18,079 eye on. You know, Syracuse is a four point favorite 315 00:20:18,279 --> 00:20:21,440 against US. I would love to have faith that we 316 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,279 can give them a fight and bounce back. And maybe 317 00:20:24,319 --> 00:20:27,000 we will. I mean, if there's anything that being an 318 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:28,960 NC State fan has taught me over the years is 319 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,039 that when you expect the least, you get the most. 320 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:36,319 So who knows, maybe my expectations that we're going to 321 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,359 get drubbed by Syracuse at home means that we're gonna 322 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:44,279 win by three touchdowns. Who knows? 323 00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: All right, Very good, James, Which ACC team could be 324 00:20:51,759 --> 00:20:54,880 on upset alert in Week seven if they're looking ahead 325 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,640 to a game on their schedule or otherwise just sleep 326 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,160 walking on the field. 327 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: Well, I kind of mentioned it. I think Pitt would 328 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:09,640 probably be the best candidate, you know. I think again, 329 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,799 they're favored by three and a half points, which you know, 330 00:21:13,839 --> 00:21:17,039 if if the conventional thinking is that you know, home 331 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,880 field is worth about three points, you know in a matchup, 332 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:24,680 it means that you know, Vegas thinks this is going 333 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,000 to be a pretty close game with just Pitt being 334 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:33,119 a half a point favored on a neutral field, you know. 335 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,079 The the I think one thing that's yet to be 336 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,960 determined with these teams that we've added from the West 337 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,400 Coast is you know what sorts of patterns, if any, 338 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,839 emerge with the teams that do have to travel far, 339 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,039 you know, like you know, obviously you know, for the 340 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:55,880 East coast teams, they don't. They have to travel west 341 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,079 much less frequently than the West coast teams have to 342 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:04,400 travel east. So does a Cal start to you know, 343 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,839 do we see you know, a trend to merge where 344 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,359 you know, they overperform at home but underperform on the road. 345 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,519 Same for Stanford. I don't know, so I think it'd 346 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:22,119 be interesting to see if Cal is able to give 347 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,640 Pittsburgh a fight. But I might hone in on that 348 00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:28,640 Pittsburgh game is the one to watch for potential upset. 349 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,720 You know the others, you know, Clemson, like I said, 350 00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:37,519 favored by almost three touchdowns, Georgia Tech is a road 351 00:22:37,559 --> 00:22:42,960 favorite bye nearly a touchdown, six points. You know, Louisville 352 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:48,519 is a road favorite against Virginia. I guess, so that 353 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:51,440 might be the second option there is that you know, 354 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:55,480 Louisville loses to in a row by losing to Virginia 355 00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:59,880 on the road. Yeah, I think pitt would be my 356 00:23:00,519 --> 00:23:02,759 top choice for a team that needs to be on 357 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,279 up so alert, especially since they are undefeated and just 358 00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:08,920 now sticking into the top twenty five. You know, team 359 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:14,319 finally feeling like they're getting some respect in the eyes 360 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,559 of the national media for the season they've had so far. 361 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,839 It feels like a place where you're a team is 362 00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:23,279 right for the picking for being upset. 363 00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: All right, James, let's step out of the ACC for 364 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,680 a bit here. Which national FBS game are you looking 365 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,359 forward to to most in week seven? And we're wide 366 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,480 open with this question. This can be Power five non 367 00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:44,920 well not power four, but this can be non Power 368 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,640 four game, a non Power four game. You could even 369 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,240 have an FCS matchup here and then give us your 370 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:54,960 winner of the games you're looking at. 371 00:23:56,519 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 3: Well, I, you know, tend to be kind of hyper 372 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,759 focused on State and the A C C, so I 373 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:06,799 don't you know, I don't really have a whole lot 374 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:10,519 of rooting interest outside of of those two properties. But 375 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:18,319 just scrolling through the matchups that we've got here, you know, 376 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:25,880 the Ohio State Oregon obviously a two three quote unquote 377 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:32,400 conference matchup now between Ohio State and Oregon, but that 378 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,720 one will be a probably the game of the week. 379 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,200 It looks like it's gonna be on NBC, which is 380 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:39,920 kind of interesting. I guess it's part of NBC's Big 381 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:45,720 Ten package. You know, that's probably the most anticipated matchup, 382 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,599 you know, just based on teams in the rankings. You 383 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,319 also have the SEC game of the week, I would 384 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,559 guess you could say with Old Miss heading to LSU 385 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:03,680 Night games in Louisiana or always a fun time. You know, 386 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:07,839 Florida's facing at Tennessee. Tennessee's coming off off of that 387 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,680 loss to Arkansas. But you know, it looks like Tennessee 388 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,799 is nearly a three touchdown favorite there. So I don't 389 00:25:16,839 --> 00:25:22,200 expect the you know that you know, traditional matchup to 390 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:28,559 be a very close one, you know, I you know, again, 391 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:33,279 I don't really get too wrapped up in a whole 392 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:36,640 lot of the ongoings. You know, I don't want to 393 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,200 turn this into a whole discussion about NIL on the 394 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,119 portal again, but you know, the conference realignment as well 395 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,160 has really made it hard to kind of feel like 396 00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:51,599 you have a firm grasp on all of these traditional 397 00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:57,920 matchups that have kind of been subjugated to all of 398 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,799 the shifting sands of you know, with the conference re 399 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,559 alignment and in IL and the transfer portal, there's just 400 00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:09,880 a lot of shifting sand all at one time, and 401 00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:13,599 it's just it's hard to, like, I don't know that 402 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,799 I'll ever get to a place where I feel like 403 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,079 Ohio State Oregon is a conference game. It's weird to 404 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:25,000 even think about cal pitt as a conference game. It 405 00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:26,680 took me years to get to a place where I 406 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,839 felt like Syracuse NC State was going to be a 407 00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:33,880 conference game. I guess it's just it comes with aging 408 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,880 and having memories of things the way they used to 409 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,920 be or the way they were. But I really don't 410 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,440 get all that wrapped up in the big matchups outside 411 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,039 of the ACC, just because, in a lot of ways 412 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,119 is as hard enough as it is just to kind 413 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,680 of keep tabs on the stuff closer to home. 414 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,319 Speaker 2: To be honest enough, I will be saying this. I 415 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,880 probably will have my James on the Red River shootout. 416 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the yeah. I mean, it'll be interesting again 417 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,359 with Alabama losing and Georgia having lost two weeks ago. 418 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:19,319 You know, Texas is now being number one. That's always 419 00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:22,279 a you know that that game always carries a lot 420 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:28,279 of weight and importance behind it. I still haven't for 421 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,680 so long, I was used to Texas having high expectations 422 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,519 and then failing to meet him. It's weird seeing the 423 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,079 one beside Texas in their name. I just I don't 424 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,160 know they they are one and probably deserving, so they 425 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,319 certainly have looked very strong as a team the last 426 00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:50,119 couple of years. But I still am waiting for the 427 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,880 other shoot to drop for Texas for some reason. So 428 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,200 who knows that maybe Oklahoma gets a huge win on 429 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:02,440 that in that matchup. And I mean, I'm again I 430 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:08,319 guess the the hey all bets are on environment that 431 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,680 we live in means that now I can see odds 432 00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:16,359 posted on every one of these matchups and seeing that 433 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,759 Texas is a fifteen point favorite oaha over Oklahoma. Not surpriser, 434 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:27,440 excuse me, but I just I would be shocked if 435 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:31,759 Texas just runs away with it. I think Oklahoma puts 436 00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:33,880 a lot of eggs in that basket, so I wouldn't 437 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,680 be surprised that that game was a lot closer. 438 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: Excellent, take go ahead, Jeff, all. 439 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:50,359 Speaker 1: Right, thanks Matthew James. We're going to have this next 440 00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:54,039 segment is called our open mic segment, and we have 441 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:58,880 two open mic segments going on here, but this first 442 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,519 one is going to be reserve just just for our 443 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:06,599 guest here, and then what do you have? 444 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: What? 445 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: What's what's on? Your mind. Maybe it's more something about 446 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,279 n C State. Maybe you want to take a little 447 00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:15,920 further with with with N I L. Uh, just just 448 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,599 take it in any direction you want to go. 449 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, you know, as it relates to to N 450 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,359 I L and the portal, you know, I think it 451 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:35,359 would be nice to roll back the ability for players 452 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:43,559 to transfer unlimited number of times, you know, after the 453 00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:48,640 first one. I think it started out with N I L. Obviously, 454 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,920 you know, I'm I'm a proponent of N I L. 455 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,920 I think it's great that these players are able to 456 00:29:52,960 --> 00:30:00,000 earn some you know, money for you know, performing especially 457 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:02,279 in a sport like football, Whereas we saw with Grayson 458 00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:05,240 McCall this week, you know, you're a vicious hit away 459 00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:10,680 from you know, your college football career ending and potentially 460 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,400 having lifelong you know, impacts as a result of it. 461 00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:20,400 So I have no qualms whatsoever with you know, these 462 00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:25,119 guys earning some or you know, at least sharing in 463 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,359 some of the revenue opportunities that are out there. I 464 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,720 think I think by combining in IL and an unlimited 465 00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:37,000 transfer portal where guys can just lead come and go 466 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:44,119 every single year, I think that combination really does open 467 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,799 the floodgates just a bit too much for my liking. 468 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,400 I would be fine with keeping in IL as it 469 00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:55,079 is if you allowed a player to transfer once and 470 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,240 not sit out a year, But beyond that, I think 471 00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:02,920 you should have to sit out a year. You know. Again, 472 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:08,160 I think if a player goes to a school, even 473 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,279 if they offer nil money, if it's not the right fit, 474 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,680 or if the coach leaves, or if there's a change 475 00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:16,920 or something happens to where you're not the right fit 476 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,480 at your first destination, by all means, you know, find 477 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,519 a new home and you shouldn't have to sit out. 478 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,519 But this it feels like we're in a spot where 479 00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:35,720 a player can continually shop themselves after every season on 480 00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:40,799 the open market. And you know, I feel like if 481 00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,079 a player were to you know, leave their first spot 482 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,079 go to a second home, I feel like that that 483 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,559 coaching staff and that fan base that invested in them 484 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,359 coming to their school should feel reasonably certain that that 485 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,599 player will then be with them for you know, the 486 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,400 next couple of years or even three years. You know. 487 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:08,640 I again, I want to give players the ability to 488 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:14,119 have some mobility in their destinations. If the first stop 489 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,640 coming out of high school, when you're young. You know, 490 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,400 you're you're trying to make a decision on a sign 491 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,480 and day. That's obviously very tough for a lot of 492 00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:26,000 these players, and you know it's an easy one to 493 00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:30,759 flob right out of the gate. But if you've gone 494 00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:35,880 to you know, your first destination for college and spend 495 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,920 a year there in the program, you realize it's not 496 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,599 a right fit. Transfer somewhere else. But then let that 497 00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:47,400 be a place where you start to establish some roots. 498 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,680 And you know, if if for whatever reason, it just 499 00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:54,200 isn't a right fit the second time, it has to 500 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,599 be enough of a bad fit for you to be 501 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,559 willing to sit out a year for you to then 502 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,680 go to your third destination. That would be my only 503 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,680 take on things where they're at now. Again, I don't 504 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,599 want to punish kids for making money on their name, 505 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,599 image and likeness, and I think they should have the 506 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,640 ability to have a little bit of mobility without penalty. 507 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,839 But I think the current environment where we're in now 508 00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:24,079 just means that, you know, like in NC State's example, 509 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,400 you know, we got a guy in in case he 510 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,119 concepts you own. You know, he came to inn Cy State, 511 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:35,480 He's performed well. We you know, did you know, maybe 512 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,799 put forth a lot of nil effort to keep him 513 00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:45,200 here at NCY State, But now you know, there's I 514 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,039 wouldn't be surprised if the season continues the way that 515 00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:51,319 it is, if he looks to leave to go elsewhere, 516 00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:55,839 you know, And it would be a shame if he 517 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,119 finds himself in a position where he's bouncing from the 518 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,759 school to school year after year. I'm not saying that 519 00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:04,920 that's Casey's personality per se, but just trying to think 520 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,200 of an example close to home where a guy might 521 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,960 be shopping himself even after he's been at a spot 522 00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:14,880 for a while. I want to kind of try to 523 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,239 eliminate that from the sport if possible. 524 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,039 Speaker 1: Good stuff there, James, Matthew. I'm going to turn it 525 00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:28,199 over to you as we close out the podcast with. 526 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:32,039 Speaker 4: Our last sept Microphone number two, James, And like the 527 00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:36,000 way we've changed our podcast up with giving people an 528 00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,440 opportunity to see what's on their mind. 529 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,199 Speaker 2: What's on your mind James again, Segment two. 530 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,599 Speaker 3: I you know, I guess the other thing is that 531 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:55,679 you know, basketball season is getting ready to tip off 532 00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:00,599 here in Raleigh, and it'll be interesting to see what 533 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:04,639 the wolf Pack looks like the year coming off a 534 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,039 year like they had at the end of last season. 535 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,519 You know, an ACC title for the men, you know, 536 00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:13,840 final four runs for both the men and the women. 537 00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:19,400 You know, I'm not. I'm in that weird spot where 538 00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:23,199 I have a team that is a defending ACC champion 539 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,239 and Final Four participant that like, what sorts of expectations 540 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,599 do you have coming off of a season like that? 541 00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:34,800 I will tell you that I'm not. I don't have 542 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,760 any illusions that we're going to go right back to 543 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,559 the Final Four this year or even repeat as ACC champions. 544 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,559 I'm hopeful for that. It'd be nice if that happened again. Certainly, 545 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,400 I think that that's ultimately where I think every NC 546 00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:52,960 State fan wants to get back to, is a place 547 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,639 where they are one of the premier teams in the 548 00:35:55,679 --> 00:36:00,280 ACC like they were in the eighties. But I think 549 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,280 it's highly unlikely that's the case, just because of the 550 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,559 fact that it wasn't like NC State last year was 551 00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:11,519 a strong team wired to wire in the regular season 552 00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:13,760 and then went on a tear. You know, they were 553 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,519 honestly one of the most disappointing teams in the conference, 554 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,599 and then suddenly figured it all out at the last second. 555 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,519 So it's not exactly a recipe for success. It's easy 556 00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:31,920 to replicate. So I'm not putting any money down that 557 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,360 we are going to repeat as ACC champion or that 558 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,079 we will find ourselves back in the Final four. But 559 00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:42,280 I do think it would be with any expectation for 560 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,599 us to be a solid, competitive team that is going 561 00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:53,800 to give teams fits. You know, it'll be interesting now 562 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,199 being the team with a target on our back because 563 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,800 for so long we were chasing teams and you know, 564 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,880 now will be the It's it's kind of like whenever 565 00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:08,559 an actor actress wins an Oscar uh as Best Actor, 566 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,679 anytime they're in a movie after that point, it's you know, 567 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,800 when they do the trailer or the preview for the movie, 568 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,599 it's you know, uh starring best Actor, Tom Cruise or 569 00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:24,559 what have you. And I'm like, it's, uh, so in 570 00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:29,039 C State? Now is uh tonight's matchup against Final four 571 00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:34,159 participant in C State. I don't know, it'd be interesting 572 00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:39,840 to see being in that position, how how this team 573 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,239 will respond, how the coaching staff will respond, and and 574 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,320 kind of like what we talked about in the first 575 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,679 half of the show with football, you know, the portal 576 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,559 and n I L and the shifting sands of all 577 00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:58,119 of the players, movement, players moving around, and conferences. Realigning 578 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,199 means that it's really hard until you kind of get 579 00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:02,920 into the thick of it to know just how good 580 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,559 of a team you're going to have. So fingers Crossed 581 00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:08,199 will have good seasons both on the men's and women's side, 582 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,320 but would not shock me in the least if if 583 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,360 we are a middle of the road team on the 584 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,519 men's side, I think the women's teams should should be 585 00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:19,639 pretty good. I feel really good about Wes Moore and 586 00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:21,480 the job he does as a coach on that side 587 00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:27,559 of things. But uh, from a men's side, I would 588 00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:29,599 not be shocked by our regression to the mean. 589 00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: If you will excellent analysis, excellent open mic. I'm going 590 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:37,360 to use my open mic to ask both James and 591 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:43,440 James and Jeff here are questions. James, from your perspective, 592 00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:48,000 at least, I no, you live in North Carolina, how 593 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:53,239 is how's the federal government dealing with the natural disasters 594 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,519 there in the state, Because I'm my understanding is that 595 00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:58,079 they that the federal government seems to be doing pretty 596 00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,519 well seems to be doing pretty well and out to 597 00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:03,880 people down there that need help. Obviously, there's a lot 598 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,159 of people that need help in North Carolina. Do you 599 00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:10,639 know anybody who's affected by that? Do you have friends 600 00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,239 and family? It seems everybody has somebody who's been touched 601 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,159 by that natural disaster. I just wanted to get your 602 00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:19,559 take on how things were going there in your Steed Well. 603 00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 3: Obviously is tragic what's happened out west. It's funny because 604 00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:31,840 I just a week before the storm rolled through, I 605 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,800 drove through one of the towns there, near Chimney Rock, 606 00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:41,480 the town of Chimney Rock, which is adjacent to Lake Lure, 607 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,079 which was one of the scenes from the movie Dirty Dancing. 608 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:49,199 If any of you old heads remember that one, you know, 609 00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,280 I drove through there and cruise to the town and 610 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,119 took it all in, not knowing that less than a 611 00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,000 week later it would be wiped out by the flood. 612 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:06,280 And it's really just tragic everything that's happened there. Asheville 613 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:13,440 was hit extremely hard, and you know it, I thankfully 614 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:15,519 you know, my sister who lives in the western part 615 00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:18,639 of the state, they were in a spot fairly high 616 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,920 up and their town of Franklin was not impacted nearly 617 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,559 as badly as some of the ones that were in 618 00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:31,920 the lower lying areas. You know, the thing about you know, 619 00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:36,639 immense rainfall and flooding is that when it takes place 620 00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:40,639 in the mountains, it's usually in you know spots where 621 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,639 you know, the valleys between these peaks are where these 622 00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:49,360 towns are built. You know that the riverside locations is 623 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,320 where there's enough flat ground to set up a little 624 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,840 town or build some houses and things like that. And 625 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,199 so really the only places where you found people living 626 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,280 and residing is right along these rivers that were suddenly 627 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,280 engulfed and flooded. So it kind of concentrated the population 628 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:16,400 right in the worst possible areas for flooding. And because 629 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,880 of the limited amount of you know, pathways in and 630 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,400 out of these communities, it's very difficult to get to 631 00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:26,000 these folks. So I know that, you know, there's a 632 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,679 lot of folks who have you know, volunteered and and 633 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,960 you know some folks who have you know, gone so 634 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:36,920 far as to volunteer up you know, their services with 635 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:40,440 you know, private aircraft like helicopters to go in and 636 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:46,840 try to rescue folks. I do know that the governor here, 637 00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:51,000 Roy Cooper, has you know, done, by my estimation, an 638 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,760 excellent job of coordinating with the federal government to try 639 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,760 to get assistants. You know, I think there's unfortunately, we 640 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,519 live in times where there's a lot of misinformation that's 641 00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:05,599 been going on. We've seen several you know, Republican congressmen 642 00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:11,119 kind of call out a lot of misinformation and disinformation 643 00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:15,360 from folks who are trying to point fingers of blame 644 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,679 at the federal government and the state government for not 645 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,840 doing a better job. And I think, you know, they 646 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,199 thankfully are not playing politics in a moment like this, 647 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,719 and they're saying, look, you know, these sorts of sharing 648 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,519 this type of information, this misinformation is hurtful, not helpful, 649 00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:38,239 and I you know, it's one of those things where 650 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,559 it's a moment where people are hurting, they're frustrated, you know, 651 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,760 and I'm sure that they would love to be able 652 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,159 to as they're struggling to find ways to get food 653 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,360 and gas and get back on their feet. They want 654 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,920 to have a scapegoat and someone that they could point 655 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,119 to and blame for not getting the job done sooner. 656 00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:02,960 But I don't know that we will fully have a 657 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,559 handle on just how comprehensive the damage and destruction was 658 00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:12,719 of this event until probably, you know, years down the road, 659 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,119 there are most likely still people who are trapped without 660 00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:21,880 power and sell service and food and clean water that 661 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:28,400 we just haven't been able to get to or discover. 662 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,760 You know, I'll give you a quick example. You know, 663 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,000 I've worked for a large financial institution here in North Carolina, 664 00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:42,599 and after the storms took place, they put sent out 665 00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:45,920 a you know, kind of a company wide email blast 666 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,079 and text blast to all of our employees saying there's 667 00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:53,679 still a good number of employees that are on accounted for, 668 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,840 so please mark yourself safe. I mean that that is 669 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,800 something that's never happened in my time being here this 670 00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,280 at this company. So that kind of gives you an 671 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,239 idea of just how far flung some of the folks 672 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,679 are that have been stranded and affected by this. And 673 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,840 I'm praying that everybody within our organization is accounting for 674 00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:17,000 before it's all said and done, But I know that, unfortunately, 675 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,760 there's going to be a lot of folks who are 676 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,639 are not They're they're lost, and so I think the 677 00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:28,639 federal you know, if we're thinking of FEMA and the 678 00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:32,719 local government and their coordination. I think they've done as 679 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,519 good a job as can be expected in extremely trying circumstances. 680 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 2: Excellent take Jeff, how are people doing in South Carolina? 681 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I would say in South Carolina that the 682 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:59,639 worst is probably largely behind most of the South Carolina. 683 00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:05,519 Over the last three or four days, power has become 684 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:10,480 available to the majority of customers in the area. There's 685 00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:15,280 definitely some some folks you know that are that are 686 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,000 still dealing with a loss of power, maybe damage to 687 00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:24,559 their to their homes. Actually, a friend of mine is 688 00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:28,880 his father's home was was totally destroyed by a tree 689 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,280 falling on it, very very unfortunate. There's definitely a number 690 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,360 of cases like that in South Carolina. But if you're 691 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,400 looking at it as a whole, I would I would 692 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:48,119 say more or less things have returned to relative normal 693 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,199 for for most of the upstate. Definitely, not not all, 694 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,559 not not everyone. So I don't want to give the 695 00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:59,000 impression that it's over by any means, but I think 696 00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:03,079 it's it's on the road to recovery and in the 697 00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:08,400 right direction. That there wasn't quite the infrastructure damage at 698 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,800 the scale that happened in the mountains of North Carolina 699 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:19,920 where whole communities were basically destroyed, and and even that 700 00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:25,679 Lake Loure area like as as James described, Actually there's 701 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,159 there's people that we know in my day job that 702 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,519 commute from there, and I've seen pictures from from Lake 703 00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:37,679 Loure and it's every bit as bad as what they say. 704 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,760 This is not an exaggeration. This is that that bad 705 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,559 in the mountains of North Carolina. So, you know, I 706 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:48,000 would ask anyone that's out there listening if you have 707 00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:55,800 the opportunity or the means to donate somehow to the 708 00:46:57,519 --> 00:47:02,760 to the hurricane victims, either through your local church or business. 709 00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:08,199 There's national organizations that you can easily find online. I 710 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,960 mean definitely they need help, and anything that you can 711 00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:18,679 offer in terms of a donation, either monetarily or you know, 712 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,599 with with can goods or anything like that, they're gonna 713 00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:25,760 be able to They're gonna definitely be able to use it. 714 00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 3: And I'll add that just to kind of bring this 715 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,920 full circle, bringing it back to Nil. You know, there's 716 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,719 a story this week about the efforts that Davin Van, 717 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,599 one of our defensive linemen, his family, you know, his 718 00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:47,559 mom and dad own a moving van or a moving business, 719 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,199 and along with the you know help of his dad's business, 720 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,239 he was able to use some of his NIL funds 721 00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:02,679 to help organize a relief drive, you know, organize you know, 722 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,559 a gathering up of supplies to take out West using 723 00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:09,199 some of those moving vans. And I think he initially 724 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,320 scheduled I think maybe two maybe three loads to go 725 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,079 out there, and it ended up being I think it 726 00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:20,920 was at least six trucks worth of goods and supplies 727 00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:24,960 that their family was able to take out West to 728 00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:31,320 deliver to those folks. And so I think if you're 729 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,039 someone who's always been skeptical of you know, kids being 730 00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:38,920 paid to, you know, play college sports, I would say 731 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,440 that there are examples like Davin Van out there who 732 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,559 used this monetary game that they've been given by playing 733 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,639 the sport to do some really good things with it. 734 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:55,000 And he didn't hesitate to use the you know, the 735 00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:00,440 funds that he's been given through the NIL home to 736 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,840 put it to good use and to help some folks 737 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,039 in dire need out with. So, you know, we may 738 00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:10,280 be having a down football season, but I feel really 739 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,440 good about the character of the team, the players, that 740 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,320 are on it, and guys like Davin Van especially make 741 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,320 me proud to be, you know, pulling for a guy 742 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,480 like him on my squad. 743 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,679 Speaker 2: Outstanding James, Jeff, what do you got for us man 744 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,119 ACC football? We could have a lot we could have 745 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,320 if Syracuse gets ranked. How many are going to be 746 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,039 in the top twenty five, Jeff. 747 00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:39,599 Speaker 1: Hey, Well to today, there are four ranked ACC teams 748 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,639 in the top twenty five. And following the results of 749 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,599 yesterday of Pitt moving to five and zero with you know, 750 00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:50,679 that blue collar effort taken out North North Carolina and 751 00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:55,039 then SMU with that really solid performance at Louisville, Kevin 752 00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:59,639 Jennings just really taking hold of that offense. I put 753 00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:01,880 out a post that said, these two teams need to 754 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,079 be ranked, and fortunately the pollsters, I don't know if 755 00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:09,079 they listened or what, but they did recognize that those 756 00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:10,760 are two teams that need to be in the top 757 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:17,159 twenty five. SMU and Pitt are now ranked. Clemson right 758 00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:19,639 there on the you know, in the edge of the 759 00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:22,400 top ten. I know they're at least ten and one pole, 760 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,840 and Miami moved up, I knowed up to six and 761 00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:30,639 one pole after that comeback victory. Over Cal last night 762 00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:33,119 where they trail thirty five to ten in the third 763 00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:39,320 quarter and cam Ward just he was unreal. I mean, 764 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,559 I know they're going to talk about the you know, 765 00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:46,440 the controversial you know, non targeting call in that game, 766 00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:51,679 but cam Ward he looked like the best player in 767 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,159 college football in the fourth quarter. I mean, he had 768 00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:58,360 over two hundred and fifty yards of offense in that 769 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,960 fourth quarter. Three t these just an unbelievable comeback. And 770 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,719 you know, that was just a tippity iceberg of what 771 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:14,719 happened yesterday. Just an unbelievable day in college football, which 772 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,400 kind of remind us of of why we enjoy it 773 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:24,079 so much. I mean, Vanderbilt knocking off Alabama, Minnesota beating USC, 774 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:31,920 Arkansas beaten Tennessee. You had the unbelievable atmosphere, the elect 775 00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:35,559 atmosphere of game day out in Cal. I mean, man, 776 00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:39,039 hats off to the to the Cal fan base. I mean, 777 00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:42,519 that's a six am start for them, and they showed 778 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:45,760 out on game day and then had to sell out 779 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,840 crowd for the game that was you know, ten thirty 780 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,320 star at Eastern Times, seven thirty, you know, prime time 781 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:57,079 for them. But you know, my rant topic and I 782 00:51:57,159 --> 00:52:02,039 blogged about this is I mean, yeah, yesterday, I couldn't 783 00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,880 help but think this might be one of the last 784 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:10,400 times we have such a meaningful Saturday across the country before, 785 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:16,000 you know, Greg Sank the SEC commissioner, and Tody Petiti, 786 00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:19,320 the a Big ten commissioner, you know, basically just destroy 787 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,559 it all. I mean, I really believe that that if 788 00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:25,679 they get their way with the multi auto bids that 789 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,920 they're trying for, which is obvious, you know, complete nonsense 790 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,400 if you actually watch the football games. I mean, you know, 791 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,760 as great a victory as that was for Vanderbilt, and 792 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,480 I mean I was rooting for Vanderbilt to win that game, 793 00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:41,559 this is a team that lost to Georgia State, Minnesota 794 00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:46,679 lost to North Carolina with their backup quarterback, Washington who 795 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,440 beat Michigan. You know, they lost to Washington State. Arkansas 796 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,239 lost to a three and three Oklahoma State team. I mean, 797 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,320 it just shows, you know, the parody that's out there 798 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,000 in college football. But these two are going to try 799 00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:05,840 to frame the college football playoff at such a weight 800 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,880 that that's going to be so weighted, so heavily in 801 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:16,639 their favor as to make results of yesterday absolutely meaningless. 802 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,920 You know, now with Alabama and that loss, I mean, 803 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,960 they should have dropped farther than what they did. They 804 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,480 fell to seven, but at least they have to now 805 00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:27,079 kind of you know, they have to kind of sweat. 806 00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:28,920 They don't have a lot of margin for error even 807 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,320 in the SEC, you know, to lose another game even 808 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,039 to make the top the top twelve. But if you 809 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,719 if you set them up with their four auto bids 810 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,880 plus you know, they're the normal consideration for their at 811 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:49,440 large bids. I mean we're talking five six teams each 812 00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:53,440 from the from the Big ten and the SEC. You know, 813 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,320 they could have ten teams of the twelve or fourteen 814 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,920 team playoff in the future if they get their way, 815 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,679 which would absolutely ruin college ky. I mean, I'll tell 816 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,159 you right now, if they get their way, I'm checked out. 817 00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:11,320 I'll get I'll just watch NFL football to get my 818 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,480 to get my fixed. And that's kind of as great 819 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,719 as yesterday was. I just couldn't help thinking that those two, 820 00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:24,719 you know, are attempting to destroy what is wonderful about 821 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,159 college football and college athletics. And we've already talked about Sankie, 822 00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:33,320 you know, trying to you know, stuff out the the 823 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,559 you know, mid major and low major uh conferences in 824 00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:39,760 the NCAA tournament. I mean, you have to admit he 825 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,880 is absolutely a ruthless SEC commissioner, and and he's gone, 826 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,760 you know, way beyond just trying to promote and and 827 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,800 market his league. I mean, he's just he basically just 828 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,920 wants to take over and destroy Kydle's athletics as we 829 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,920 know it, and uh, you know, hopefully the rest of 830 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,320 college athletics, you know, kind of kind of joins up 831 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,920 and then pushes back against them, because I think if 832 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,760 they get their way, the nationally you'll start to see 833 00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:20,599 a pushback on what those two are are are attempting 834 00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:23,320 to do. But man, if they if they get their way, 835 00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:27,280 it's gonna it's gonna destroy college athletics as we know it. 836 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:36,280 Speaker 2: That was That was very comprehensive, Jeff, go ahead, James, No, I. 837 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,360 Speaker 3: Just I was just going to agree with with Jeff, 838 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:43,280 is that, you know, I think this idea that just 839 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:48,599 because they're the Big ten or the Big or the SEC, 840 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:55,440 that they're entitled to each get four slots automatically within 841 00:55:55,639 --> 00:56:01,239 a twelve team playoff, it's pretty ludicrous. Uh yeah, they 842 00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:05,280 you know, to I guess to their credit that they 843 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:11,039 are ruthless in their you know, the way they operate 844 00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:14,119 and and the the links that they are you know, 845 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:19,320 willing to try to stack the deck in their conference's favors, 846 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,400 and you can't argue with the results so far. I mean, 847 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:27,000 they've certainly done an excellent job of you know, setting 848 00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:34,079 the table for their current conference, you know, the teams 849 00:56:34,119 --> 00:56:38,679 within their conference for being successful. But I think the 850 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,559 thing that really frustrates me is this, and I think 851 00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:43,840 it kind of speaks to what Jeff was saying, is that, 852 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:51,239 you know, they speak of their conferences as though, well, yes, 853 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,880 these teams are in the SEC, therefore they are better. 854 00:56:56,119 --> 00:56:59,639 And I don't think anybody's arguing that, you know, the 855 00:56:59,679 --> 00:57:03,599 best teams in college football typically come from those conferences. 856 00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:08,039 But it shouldn't be assumed that because team A or 857 00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:11,639 B is in that conference that they are just naturally better. 858 00:57:13,519 --> 00:57:17,239 They there are going to be up up years and 859 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,360 down years for those two leagues, and they're gonna be 860 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,639 years with the ACC has you know, a slate of 861 00:57:23,679 --> 00:57:29,440 teams that performs better than expected and should be you know, 862 00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:33,440 should have just as much right to getting multiple bids 863 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,679 into the playoff, and if you set the thing up 864 00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:41,480 to where the Big ten gets four teams, the SEC 865 00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:44,760 gets four teams, and then the rest the scraps are 866 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,880 fought amongst the rest of the league. If the Big 867 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,880 ten the SEC have down years in one of those 868 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,960 years and they've got eight bids between the two of them, 869 00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:58,159 and the ACC has a year where they overperform, or 870 00:57:58,199 --> 00:58:00,159 the Big twelve has a year where they overperform, or 871 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,360 how how fair would it be if you know the 872 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,360 fourth SEC team or the fourth Big ten team is 873 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:13,079 clearly inferior to you know, uh, an ACC team that 874 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:18,280 gets left on the outside looking in. You know, I can't. 875 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,480 I can't argue with a commissioner doing everything they can 876 00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:24,719 for the benefit of the league, but does feel like 877 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,320 the sport needs to have some means to push back 878 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,599 on some of the efforts that these guys are taking 879 00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:32,119 to stack the deck in their favor. 880 00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:35,719 Speaker 2: I'm with you, and I you know, I in part 881 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:41,119 I think you could find something like this headed the 882 00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:44,480 Congress if they feel like there's some sort of if 883 00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:48,280 there are inequities that are not favoring other teams, and 884 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,119 you could find somebody in But I'm not an attorney. 885 00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: Right. 886 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 2: I won't say that, right, but you probably could find 887 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,920 somebody out there that would say that this is an 888 00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,719 anti competitive sort of thing, anti competitive thing, and try 889 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,079 to revote, you know, try to try to say that 890 00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:05,119 this is some sort of an antitrust issue. 891 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it makes the system setting the system 892 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:17,039 up to me where you know, if you have you know, 893 00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:22,480 your conference champion, your highest rank conference champions get an 894 00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:27,159 automatic bid in, and then you have at large bids 895 00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:33,519 that are you know, equally accessible to the remainder of 896 00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:39,559 the conferences. I mean, we could argue and debate on whether, 897 00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:43,639 you know, the second team from the ACC is better 898 00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:46,920 than the third or fourth team from the Big Ten 899 00:59:47,159 --> 00:59:50,920 or the SEC, but at least if if those teams 900 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:56,679 aren't just handed those positions automatically, there's a debate that 901 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,400 can be had, and a selection committee can step in 902 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,239 and say, Okay, we felt like the ACC on the 903 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,960 whole this year was a song of conference than usual, 904 01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:08,960 and therefore we're going to give the you know, the 905 01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:12,639 second or third team, you know, the loser of perhaps 906 01:00:12,719 --> 01:00:15,400 the conference title game, gets an opportunity to get into 907 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,880 the playoffs as well, ahead of the fourth team from 908 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:24,639 the SEC. I just think that that seems to be 909 01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:29,480 a more fair system, you know, by by allowing conference 910 01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:31,719 champions to have auto bids. I think it's a nice 911 01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:35,440 way to ensure that the winning the conference still matters. 912 01:00:36,239 --> 01:00:39,360 And then if you throw it open to you know, 913 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:44,719 the you know, the remaining slots are then at large spots, 914 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,559 then I think it's just a more equitable way for 915 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,880 you know, ACC or Big twelve teams that have great 916 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,880 years that don't win the conference champion still have a 917 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,400 shot at getting in if if things get set up 918 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,599 the way that Jeff outlined with the Big ten in 919 01:01:01,639 --> 01:01:05,000 the SEC, to where you know, two thirds of the 920 01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:09,400 bids are ordering automatically just granted to those two leagues 921 01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:15,199 and everybody else gets the scraps. That that does seem 922 01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:20,440 you know, uncompetitive in a way that's worthy of being challenged. 923 01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:22,840 The problem I guess for college football is that there's 924 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,480 not really a governing body it really oversees it all. 925 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,639 You know, it's conference by conference. There's not really a 926 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,119 league or a body, and we know the n C 927 01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:39,280 DOUBLEA itself is kind of feckless. You know, there's not 928 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,320 really an overarching body that kind of governs all of 929 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,119 high level college football. It's you know, the strongest teams 930 01:01:48,159 --> 01:01:53,039 and conferences kind of determine the rest of the you 931 01:01:53,079 --> 01:01:56,079 know things, And it's the TV networks obviously that are 932 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,719 deciding where this money is all going, and it's usually 933 01:01:59,719 --> 01:02:03,840 going to the SEC or the Big Ten. There's just 934 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,639 not a lot of leadership at the top to kind 935 01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:10,920 of step in and prevent conference commissioners from the SEC 936 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,280 and Big Ten from dictating things for the rest of 937 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:14,920 the sport. 938 01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 2: That's an outstanding take, outstanding take. So I'm gonna ask 939 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,480 one question for my little open mic before we go. 940 01:02:24,599 --> 01:02:31,119 James Jackson Blake, is he gonna make the Carolina Hurricanes roster. 941 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,039 You know, I've been talking to you for weeks and 942 01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:37,320 weeks and weeks about it, about it, and I'm hearing 943 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,280 that he may have a real shock to make the 944 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,559 roster down there. 945 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 3: Well, you know what's so funny is that I got 946 01:02:44,519 --> 01:02:48,280 an opportunity to go to the It wasn't the last 947 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:52,199 preseason game against Nashville, but it was the one against 948 01:02:52,199 --> 01:02:54,679 the Lightning here in Raleigh a couple of nights ago, 949 01:02:55,559 --> 01:02:59,639 and you know, I was watching play on the ice 950 01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:04,440 and then there was this guy that I didn't recognize 951 01:03:05,199 --> 01:03:08,000 who just it was one of those kind of eye 952 01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:12,639 popping moments where a guy just the speed on the 953 01:03:12,679 --> 01:03:16,079 ice relative to guys around him just seemed, Wow, this 954 01:03:16,159 --> 01:03:20,119 guy is just noticeably faster than everybody else. And I 955 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,480 like squinting the look at the number, like fifty three, okay, 956 01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:27,639 And then I looked up and it was Jackson Blake. 957 01:03:29,239 --> 01:03:33,360 And I didn't put two and two together, but I 958 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,199 will tell you he flashed in that moment, and I 959 01:03:36,239 --> 01:03:40,119 was like, this kid has something. So he made an 960 01:03:40,119 --> 01:03:43,599 impression on me in that moment. And I don't know 961 01:03:43,639 --> 01:03:46,039 that that means that he's a lot to make the roster, 962 01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:51,719 but he caught my eye during that preseason game, and 963 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,719 I would love it if he landed and stuck on 964 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,239 this team because I think and I was listening to 965 01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,239 the postgame radio coverage as we were in the car 966 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,920 leaving the stadium, and he got a good amount of 967 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:10,480 mention from the broadcast crew about doing things not just 968 01:04:10,599 --> 01:04:16,239 on offense, but just doing little things defensively, hustle, plays 969 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,360 the things that you know a guy like Rod Brendamore 970 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:24,599 really values that I think could endear him to landing 971 01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:28,679 a spot on the roster, so I'll keep my fingers crossed. 972 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,639 I'm hopeful that he's a guy that can make the 973 01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:35,679 squad because if he can skate with as much speed 974 01:04:35,679 --> 01:04:38,159 as he showed me in that moment, he'll be somebody 975 01:04:38,199 --> 01:04:40,440 that is going to be difficult to handle for a 976 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:41,000 lot of teams. 977 01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 2: And he's This is the moment that makes everybody on 978 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,440 this podcast feel old, of course, because he is Jason 979 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:48,159 Blake's son. 980 01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 3: Now I don't know who Jason Blake is. You'll have 981 01:04:52,039 --> 01:04:52,639 to educate. 982 01:04:52,719 --> 01:04:56,519 Speaker 2: Jason Blake played for the LA Kings and is the 983 01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:03,639 also went to the eris North Dakota, and he's significantly older. 984 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:09,800 Of course, he's he's he's he's Jackson's father and uh uh. 985 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,239 And he played a different position. He played a defenseman 986 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,079 at the University of North Dakota and with the Kings, 987 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,519 and so his son is playing a wildly different position, right, 988 01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:21,840 I mean, this is a this is I mean the 989 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,440 way hot. I mean, you guys have seen this, right, 990 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,199 like the way hot and it's probably the same with 991 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,679 every sport. The way hockey has changed now it is 992 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,320 a speed man sport. And you just talked about Jackson's 993 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,599 speed because you know, like once you hit thirty one, 994 01:05:38,159 --> 01:05:41,079 most I mean for most players, your career is done 995 01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:44,559 in Coyle in in the NHL. It's because you can't 996 01:05:44,599 --> 01:05:47,400 keep up with anybody anymore on this on the speed aspect, 997 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,239 very rarely are you going to see anybody that's above 998 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,960 thirty five in the league anymore because you just can't 999 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,440 keep on up from a speed perspective. So if I 1000 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,760 had to guess, and if they needed a speedster on 1001 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,800 that roster, on that roster with Carolina, you know, he might, 1002 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,880 he might, he might, he might make the vote because 1003 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,119 he's he tends to be the fastest person on the eye. 1004 01:06:10,719 --> 01:06:13,079 Speaker 3: I would say he was that guy, uh in that 1005 01:06:13,159 --> 01:06:18,880 preseason game, you know. And and if that if and 1006 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,039 Rod's a smart guy, I'm sure he knows it's a 1007 01:06:22,159 --> 01:06:25,480 uh it's it's a speedsters league. So if he's looking 1008 01:06:25,519 --> 01:06:28,679 to add some speed, I think Jackson was good to 1009 01:06:28,679 --> 01:06:29,400 show it to him. 1010 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,519 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it. James, 1011 01:06:33,559 --> 01:06:35,719 thank you so much for joining us on the All 1012 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,639 Sports Discussion ACC podcast and spending your Sunday evening with us. 1013 01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:42,360 We loved having you on the show and we'd love 1014 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,480 to have you again sometimes. Thanks so much for spending 1015 01:06:44,519 --> 01:06:45,239 your time with us. 1016 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 3: Of course, uh, I will look forward to the next time. 1017 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,280 I'm on all right, have a great week, guys, take care, 1018 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:52,480 See you guys.