WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.759 Hello everyone, and welcome back to a brand new episode 2 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:17.879 of the Poker Go Podcast. It is Tuesday, May twenty seventh. 3 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:21.120 It is officially the first day of the twenty twenty 4 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:23.399 five World Series of Poker, but we are not at 5 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:26.760 the WSP yet. Tim and myself are here at the 6 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:30.800 Poker Grow Studio. We just wrapped up the famous twenty 7 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:35.719 five K Fantasy Draft, hosted by none other than Daniel 8 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:39.000 Negraan new who we will hear from on this episode. 9 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:41.759 We do have both audio and video from Daniel that 10 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:44.600 we will play for you in a little bit. Tim, 11 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:46.799 my friend, look at this guy. 12 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:47.520 I'm so tired. 13 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:49.679 How long does the draft? How long does the draft go? 14 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:51.439 We started, I don't even know if we started on time. 15 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:53.799 We started a little light one fifteen, maybe one twenty. 16 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:59.679 It's five hours, a record twenty four teams believe it's 17 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:03.039 never gotten into the twenties. Every single year, Daniel's like 18 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:05.400 it's gonna be over twenty. I'm getting interest. I'm getting interest. 19 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:08.640 Of course, you know, day of people bail, you know, 20 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:12.920 But this year, twenty four, brand new record, absolutely freaking 21 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:17.079 massive churnout. The room was packed, one hundred and ninety 22 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:20.000 two players needed to be drafted. For those that don't know, 23 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:22.840 you guys can go to twenty five k fantasy dot com. 24 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:25.719 You can see all the teams. You can read you 25 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:28.879 know history, you can look at past results just two 26 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:30.359 years ago. Just make sure you look at the result 27 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:33.840 when we won. The rules are all on there, all 28 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:35.959 that sort of good stuff. So you know, Tim and 29 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:37.799 I will hit on some stuff. He was the auctioneer 30 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.480 once again. A good job by you, thank you. I 31 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.719 mean it was a it was a tall task. 32 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:45.760 The easiest thing to do. It was as you have. 33 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:48.840 He's look, there's people that are listening to this podcast. 34 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:52.879 I'm going to complain about them. David Baker, David odb 35 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:58.079 Biker is like a mass He just just does this. 36 00:01:58.200 --> 00:01:59.560 He doesn't even put his hand out. He just kind 37 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:02.879 of like one dollar, like I can't see it. And 38 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:05.040 I miss people's bids, Like you need to just through 39 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:06.200 the handoff. 40 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:08.719 I mean, you know what we need, we need we 41 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:10.439 need auction paddles. Next time. 42 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:11.680 No one would use them, that's the problem. 43 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:13.159 I know, we still need them. And if you don't 44 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:14.800 use them, you don't get your bidden. That's the rule. 45 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.759 And people damn paddle in the air. Let's pet it's 46 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:19.360 just on one side it can be the twenty five 47 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:21.520 K logo and on the other side you can write 48 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:23.759 your name, your team name, you know, so just the 49 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:25.599 people that can kind of know what's what's going on. 50 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:28.240 And I just love to quite the full use of 51 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:30.120 the clock to get that one. 52 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:32.879 I think you, I think you have to do that. 53 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:36.639 And I know Mickey who's off camera, my drafting partner, 54 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:40.680 my co owner of our team, team dp MD. If 55 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:43.439 you head to twenty five k Fantasy dot Com, I 56 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:46.080 mean it's hard because you wanted to like slow down. 57 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:48.280 You don't want to just be like going one dollar 58 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:49.800 one dollar, one dollar, one dollar, because next thing you know, 59 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:52.120 it's just going to keep skying the price. Right, So 60 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:53.639 when you get to the part where you think it's 61 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:56.479 gonna slow down, when you're kind of reaching that ceiling 62 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.240 of where you think a player might land, okay, then 63 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:04.039 you start going slow once again. Yours truly picked the 64 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:06.199 most expensive player. I'm just every year, I'm just going 65 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:08.080 to try and set a new record. That's that's the goal. 66 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:11.599 Is this what is the highest paid player ever of 67 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:11.960 all time? 68 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.960 Jeremy, if you're listening, let's f and go buddy, come on, 69 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:20.080 let's f and go. You got to do it. 70 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:22.759 He's spending some of the World Series in Coloradoway's family. 71 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:24.080 No stop, get out of here. 72 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:27.240 I spoke from him. He told me he's like, I'm 73 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.840 missing two weeks in the middle to. 74 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.680 And Brent Hanks tried to tell me that come July first, 75 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:36.120 he's not going to be playing anymore. Yeah, okay, whatever, guys, whatever, 76 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:38.639 But yeah, I mean, listen, it was it was I 77 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:41.840 think a good draft overall, you know, all things considered, again, 78 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.159 I think you did a really good job just kind 79 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:47.439 of keeping everything uh moving. There were a few hiccups, 80 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:49.599 not not your fault. When you know team's bid or whatever, 81 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:51.639 it's kind of you know, we didn't hear like like 82 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:53.360 you said. You know, there are some teams that are 83 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.840 they're very quiet with their bidding where they come in 84 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:58.719 like very much last minute, you know. Or there's also 85 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:00.960 the time when like some but you'll say fifteen and 86 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.280 then like seven teams will say sixteen. Yeah, and it's like, oh, 87 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:04.120 what's going on? 88 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:06.159 And the thing is, I normally take the one that 89 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:08.000 I see with the hand ups. If you don't put 90 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:11.400 your hand up, you're not going to get the benefit 91 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:13.639 of the doubt there, and you also mentioned it twenty 92 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.360 four teams they don't fit, you know, some teams of 93 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.879 four people, five people. It's the whole studio is full, 94 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:22.240 and like I'm kind of like left and right, so 95 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:24.319 it does get a little difficult to see the entire 96 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:27.160 room in one viewpoint. Maybe we need to change the 97 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:30.279 set up a little bit. Next to you, But hey, 98 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.399 did my best, and I'm surprised I didn't lose my voice. 99 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.439 Yeah, I mean, listen with how much this thing has grown, 100 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.160 you know, I kind of did just complain on the 101 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.000 last podcast. How I'm surprised that this hasn't grown by 102 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.560 like one and a half entries on average every single year. 103 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:46.000 But we did get a big boost this year, so 104 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.560 that's really cool. I'm sure that big boost will carry 105 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:51.560 over to Odb's Fantasy League, which is the five hundred 106 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:54.639 dollars buying fantasy league that you can get into, but 107 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:57.360 you use the prices that were set in the twenty 108 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.839 five K fantasy league. 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We should also get our 131 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:02.079 own custom avatars. 132 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:04.519 I'll pay for it. How much do they cost? I? 133 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:08.199 Mean, I don't know and buildup to the company. But 134 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.720 you guys out there deal yourself in at play PokerGO 135 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.600 dot com. We expect to see you guys in the streets, 136 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:19.399 all right. Twenty five K Fantasy A quick rundown of 137 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.879 how it works auction draft. Everyone starts with two hundred 138 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:27.600 dollars that they can bid with, and you know, you 139 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.079 go around. One team nominates someone. There's a whole bunch 140 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.199 of bidding. Tim here is the one who's like going once, 141 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.800 going twice, sold to so and so. You have to 142 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:37.480 fill up your team of eight players. And then when 143 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:40.040 it's all said and done, the scoring is based on 144 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:43.360 how these players do in World Series of Poker events. 145 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:48.120 Only live events count. There are how many events don't count? 146 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:50.439 Tag team doesn't count. I think that's it. I think 147 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:55.319 everything else counts. Ladies, ladies count, senior count employees. No, 148 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:57.800 I think it does. I'm pretty sure it does. But 149 00:06:57.839 --> 00:06:59.720 all the big stuff again, you guys can follow it 150 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.399 on twenty five K fantasy dot com. I'm sure Tim 151 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:04.480 and I will be talking about on the podcast regularly, 152 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:06.839 as we always do. We will also be you know, 153 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:10.439 sharing on social media various stuff. I know poker News. 154 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:13.720 I know poker dot org they dedicate some resources to 155 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.399 tracking stuff on poker news. They have little badges for 156 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:19.079 all the players. They try and track the players. I 157 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:22.120 know poker dot org is working closely with David Baker 158 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:25.959 ODB on stuff where they're going to do more coverage. 159 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:28.519 And I believe I heard on odb's pod that poker 160 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:30.399 dot org is playing to have kind of a dedicated 161 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:33.439 reporter to the twenty five K Fantasy League all summer long, 162 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:34.680 So there's that as well. 163 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:36.519 They're also giving away ten thousand dollars. 164 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:38.839 Yeah, poker dot org is given away a ten thousand 165 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:41.000 dollars seat. I don't know the exact link, but if 166 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:42.680 you just go to poker dot org, I'm sure you 167 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:44.360 can find it, or you can check the parkers. 168 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:46.560 Like two days and you submit a team onder the 169 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:48.959 same kind of rules that ADIB runs and they I 170 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:51.399 believe you win a ten thousand dollars seat to a 171 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:55.839 Las Vegas tournament. So that could also mean PGT event. 172 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.720 Ope baby Pokemasa's hope baby. Some of that, you know, Like, 173 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:04.439 I don't think it's necessarily WSP bound, but but yeah, 174 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:05.879 that's kind of pretty cool. I'm going to be entering 175 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:06.600 my team. 176 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:09.439 So listen, no free ads, but they just got a 177 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:11.959 really good free ad, so poker dot org to check 178 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.600 that out. All right, I want to know from you, sir, okay. 179 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:17.399 I was in the draft, so like, what what are 180 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:21.920 sort of your initial big picture takeaways? Was it a 181 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:24.439 shock to see, for example, US going up to one 182 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:27.959 forty one on Jeremy Osmas. You know, like I feel 183 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:30.319 like sitting there, Mickey and I are going back and 184 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.320 forth with this time it was rent Linn, and I 185 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:35.480 feel like, you know, it's us in ren Linn. But 186 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:37.360 then there's you know, twenty two other teams that are 187 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.120 looking at me like I'm an absolute alien out there. 188 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:44.799 The first thing coming into this, I was thinking, look, 189 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.759 there's five six teams more than normal, and I know 190 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:53.279 not if people know how to adjust to the job process, right, 191 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:55.320 because what does this mean? Does it mean I take 192 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:57.360 the Jeremy Osmas for one hundred and fifty bucks and 193 00:08:57.399 --> 00:09:00.240 then find all the dollar plays five hours later, or 194 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.039 do I do something different? Like there's no precedent for 195 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.039 a draft size this week, so I knew the strategies 196 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.360 were all out the window. The second thing I noticed 197 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.399 is that some people are idiots. There's no research, there's 198 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:14.840 no look you and Mickey very well prepared. I looked 199 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.200 at others. I look at their sheets. I'd like to 200 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:19.799 see who their stars are. Not going to give anything away, 201 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.240 but I just like, I like to see how prepared 202 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.799 people are. And you see these guys, you know, with 203 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:27.639 all these names columnize. You know, we want this one, 204 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:29.240 we don't want to touch these ones. And then you 205 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:33.039 see dance Apo mon Zamani sitting there with a notepad 206 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:36.200 with names scribbled down and chicken scratch. You got other 207 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:37.919 people that I don't know what they're doing. 208 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:41.080 The best I know a team is. I mean, I'll 209 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.679 say they're drawing dead. I just don't worry about them. 210 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.360 When I see on their computer screen they're just looking 211 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:49.000 at like twenty five k fantasy dot com from last year. 212 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.120 I'm like, okay, you are drawing dead like you're just 213 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:52.799 looking at the past result. You have no idea what's 214 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:55.039 going on. Okay, cool, that's good, you know, But there 215 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:56.720 were a lot of teams that I felt like had 216 00:09:57.320 --> 00:09:59.039 I mean, I didn't like, you know, I'm not trying 217 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:01.080 to look at every one's notes, but you can see 218 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:02.679 them if you just walk around the room or whatever. 219 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:03.919 And there was a lot of people who had like 220 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:07.240 a lot of spreadsheets. They were They definitely brought preparation, 221 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:10.879 you know, which which made things a bit harder overall. 222 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:14.600 So I think like the back the back end of 223 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:17.399 the draft, right where it's you know, half the teams 224 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:19.320 are gone and now pretty much wherever you nominate you're 225 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:23.799 gonna get. I think that's where it's your team is made, right. 226 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:27.600 And I don't know how prepared people are, like how 227 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:31.200 long their list of the one dollar players is, you know, 228 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:33.720 And you know, we had some wrinkles in this. We 229 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:35.960 had an Australian team throwing out some Australian names that 230 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:40.039 kind of mix things up. But I think that's where 231 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:42.480 your team has made right, when you you lock up 232 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.039 that star player like you guys did Jeremi Ozas, and 233 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.919 then you can get these really high valued one dollar 234 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:51.559 players that are going to like perform at a better 235 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:54.039 dollar to point average than you know, some other people 236 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:55.320 that are get drafted. And you can look at these 237 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:58.840 names and you'll see that, Okay, he's super valued. He's 238 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:02.000 super valued. And even you have people that you know, 239 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:04.320 there's one name that stands out that didn't even get drafted. 240 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:08.399 Did you know what I'm thinking, Alan Kesler didn't get drafted. 241 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:10.399 Oh yeah, yeah, I must say Alan Kessel is the 242 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:12.600 best park of player in the world. But you get 243 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.559 in what are we getting seventy events from him? Maybe? 244 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:17.840 Who knows he's gonna be in the ten k mixes. 245 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:20.759 He's going to play the little stuff. Whether you think 246 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:22.960 he's good, it's just a volume player you could have got. 247 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:26.200 You look at all these the eighth player drafted for 248 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:29.960 all these teams. I feel like Alan Kessa might be 249 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.120 better than half of them. Yeah, value wise, say value. 250 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:36.080 I don't disagree with you. You know, I think I think 251 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:38.639 people kind of struggle at the end of the draft 252 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:42.120 and they just start throwing out names that they know 253 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:45.120 or have heard. And I know Alankester is not always 254 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:49.480 the most popular player within that room, but uh yeah, 255 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:51.679 normally he does make an appearance. By the way, he 256 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:55.399 didn't make an appearance this time on specially the helmet appearance, 257 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:56.480 you know, as he. 258 00:11:56.399 --> 00:12:01.440 Was getting nominated and on, which was like the's timing possible. Yeah, 259 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:02.279 that was impeccable. 260 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:04.639 That was crazy. I guess. Just a quick aside, if 261 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:06.559 you guys did miss the draft, and you do want 262 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:08.360 to go check it out and see what it's about, 263 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:11.039 you can head to the poker go dot com YouTube channel. 264 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:14.200 We did stream the entire draft from start to finish, 265 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:16.159 so that is available. I know there were plenty of 266 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:19.559 people that were tuned in. The chat was extremely active throughout, 267 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:21.399 so if you want to go back and check that out, 268 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:23.600 you are certainly welcome to do. 269 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:32.039 So let's talk about your team, and then let's talk 270 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:35.600 about teams we like, or we could just like kind 271 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:37.399 of whatever stands out to us. I think that's the 272 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:37.720 best way. 273 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:42.120 Yeah, I mean, listen, draft is over. So last episode 274 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:45.039 when we were doing the predictions and I want you know, 275 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:47.159 one of the questions was who's the favorite twin player 276 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:48.919 of the year. My favorite twin player of the year 277 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:49.639 is Jeremy Osmas. 278 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:49.879 Yeah. 279 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.559 I backed out from saying it on that episode because 280 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:55.720 I didn't want people to listen in and possibly get 281 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:58.320 an idea that we were going to be taking him. 282 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.000 That was the player. Mickey and I decided that, you know, 283 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:02.960 we agreed, this is the guy we we're essentially going 284 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:05.200 to go all in on. And to be honest, as 285 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.080 I was bidding and going back and forth with Renlin, 286 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:08.559 I thought I was gonna have to go to one 287 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:10.919 ninety three. It got to the point where I was like, 288 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:11.480 here we go. 289 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:13.120 If we're talking about peop without a strategy, it could 290 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:15.159 be red Lane. I felt like you you too. 291 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:17.440 At one point, Renlan looked at me and he said, 292 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:19.440 I got a whole bunch of one dollar players. I'm like, yeah, okay, 293 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:21.159 so do I buddy, Like, what do you want me 294 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:21.440 to do? 295 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:25.320 It's it was when you guys were going at it. 296 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:28.399 I wish there was There's no a duck un draft order, right. 297 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.279 No, but I will say that. So the first player 298 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:34.840 nominated was Nick Shulman, and he went for over one 299 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:37.480 hundred dollars. It was one hundred and seven, which, listen, 300 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:40.279 Mick and I were both Mickey and I were both 301 00:13:40.360 --> 00:13:42.639 very big on Nick Shulman. But it's one of those 302 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:45.000 things where we know if we want Ozmas ultimately we 303 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:46.919 can't also get Shulman. I mean, maybe there is a 304 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:49.919 world where, you know, some miracle, you know, fantasy universe 305 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:52.919 where that happens, but it's very likely that's not going 306 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:56.000 to happen, Okay. I was surprised to see that Nick 307 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:59.000 did push up over one hundred. Now it's again, it's 308 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:01.080 not that we don't agree that he is that type 309 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.399 of player, it's just that in the past he hasn't 310 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:05.919 gotten that high. He's been a bit lower. He's been 311 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:08.679 like in the seventies, I think if I recall so, 312 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:11.799 so that was interesting to start, but then once that happened, 313 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:15.600 I mean my initial thought was, Okay, we are going 314 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:19.159 to have to go to the one thirties, one forties 315 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:22.720 for our top guy, Jeremy Osmas. You know, Mickey the 316 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:25.320 freaking goat. He's like, Jeremy Austmas is probably going to 317 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:27.080 go for one hundred and forty. That was like his 318 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:29.720 projected number what he had, and he ended up going 319 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:32.000 for one forty one. So Mickey had that very much nailed. 320 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:34.960 But it could have also went the other way, where 321 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:37.720 was like, Okay, well maybe if everyone's kind of all 322 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:40.320 in on Shulman, maybe then they're not all in on Ozmas, 323 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:43.799 you know. So so yeah, I mean, ultimately it just 324 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:46.159 it came down to ren Linn and I and we 325 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:49.399 were going back and forth one dollar piece. To be honest, 326 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:53.120 I don't really understand the strategy from these other teams. 327 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:56.799 If you're bidding against me and you're up to one forty. 328 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:00.720 Why are you not continuing to just go? Especially bren 329 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:04.320 Lynn who claims that he has a one dollar player, Like, 330 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:06.519 I don't. I don't like one forty is your cap? 331 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:07.480 Like what is this cap? 332 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:09.039 Did you have a cap on Jeremy? 333 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:11.399 That's no, the cap was one ninety three, which is 334 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:15.720 the mac CONFIGU teammate Mickey, Yeah, damn. And we I mean, 335 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.519 I'll tell you what our plan was. If it got 336 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:21.120 to like one seventy five. I was saying one ninety three, 337 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:23.360 because you can at that point you can't risk not 338 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:25.480 getting that player if that's who we want. So it's like, 339 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:28.200 at some point you can't risk like possibly saying if 340 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:30.519 he says one seventy five, I say one seventy six. 341 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:32.480 Then he says one ninety three, Like we don't want 342 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:34.799 to risk that. So we were like, okay, fine, here 343 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:36.639 we go. If it gets that high, I'm just gonna 344 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:38.600 have to say the number like I mean, and then 345 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:40.679 we're gonna leave the room for four hours and come 346 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:42.600 back and try and draft a bunch of one dollar players. 347 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:45.159 That was the plan. But like, I don't understand that 348 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:48.720 strategy Another strategy that I don't understand is these teams. 349 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:51.440 There was several of them today, and there is several 350 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:54.039 of them every year. They're in on like every player 351 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:59.200 that gets nominated. I'm like, what mind? So weird to me, 352 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:02.039 it seems like you should just you should pick your 353 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:06.039 kind of target guys and you should go after them. Now, 354 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:08.960 speaking of target guys and pulling this back to our team, 355 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:13.240 everyone that we got on our team all A players. 356 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:17.240 We got Jeremy Osmas, Seth Davies, Stevensong, John Shorman, Boris Angelov, 357 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:21.679 Tommy Coral, Nicholas Milgrim, and Urie Reichenstein we had on 358 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:24.840 our list, So they were targeted players from US. Now 359 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:27.159 that some of them were a bit further down the list, yes, 360 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.960 because obviously players get taken from you, you get out bid, 361 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.399 all that sort of stuff. But we got everyone that 362 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:34.200 we set out that was on a list. We didn't 363 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.039 have to pull any audibles. We didn't have to, like, 364 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:38.600 you know, randomly be like, oh, we got to pull 365 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:40.639 this guy in because all of our guys are gone. No. 366 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:44.240 So I feel good in the preparation that we did. 367 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:46.840 I will also admit that at some point it did 368 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:49.679 feel a little touch and go because some of the 369 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:52.360 players were getting thrown out from some other teams who 370 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:55.279 had more money and they were bidding on them. So yeah, 371 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:57.799 so it was it was an interesting draft. Our plan 372 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:01.279 a coming into it was Ozma's at Ozmas. First. We 373 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:03.279 love the fact that we drew the three card to 374 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:06.599 nominate third so that we could nominate Ozmas and just 375 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:08.559 go get him right away. And then we wanted the 376 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:09.799 King John Reardan. 377 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:13.319 How much did they spend on Real fifty four? 378 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:15.599 We went all in at fifty three and we got 379 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:16.119 out bid. 380 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:17.680 There's a lot of that today. 381 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:20.519 I mean, that's just that's just outrageous by that team. 382 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:22.839 It's definitely from the set Davies pick. 383 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.039 The reason being is obviously there's gonna be some high 384 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:28.039 roles here in the studio, so we may lose him 385 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:30.839 for that, but is he gonna fall in that kind 386 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:32.440 of Jason Kuhn category with. 387 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:36.160 Seth Davey said, everything Nolan had hold him in PLO 388 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:40.599 ten k pluk, A bunch of stuff below that, I'm 389 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:44.960 gonna be firing hard. He's ready to go. You know 390 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.119 Another thing that that we did, Mickey and I is 391 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:52.279 we spoke to pretty much everyone on our team. I mean, 392 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:54.160 we didn't speak to Stephen Song, but we don't We 393 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.160 don't need to speak to Stephen Song. We know about 394 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:58.200 Steven Song, and we didn't speak to bors Angelo, but 395 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:01.359 we had secondhand information from somebody invested in our team 396 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:05.000 about Boris Angelov. Everyone else. We had direct messages from 397 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:06.680 going back and forth to them. Hey, this is like 398 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:09.880 kind of what I'm planning whatever. I had no idea 399 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:13.119 how to reach Ury Richton sign. I've always wanted to 400 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:17.079 draft him, and I got ahold of his email, fired 401 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:19.319