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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to a brand new episode

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of the Poker Go Podcast. It is Tuesday, May twenty seventh.

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It is officially the first day of the twenty twenty

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five World Series of Poker, but we are not at

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the WSP yet. Tim and myself are here at the

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Poker Grow Studio. We just wrapped up the famous twenty

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five K Fantasy Draft, hosted by none other than Daniel

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Negraan new who we will hear from on this episode.

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We do have both audio and video from Daniel that

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we will play for you in a little bit. Tim,

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my friend, look at this guy.

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Speaker 2: I'm so tired.

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Speaker 1: How long does the draft? How long does the draft go?

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We started, I don't even know if we started on time.

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Speaker 2: We started a little light one fifteen, maybe one twenty.

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Speaker 1: It's five hours, a record twenty four teams believe it's

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never gotten into the twenties. Every single year, Daniel's like

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it's gonna be over twenty. I'm getting interest. I'm getting interest.

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Of course, you know, day of people bail, you know,

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But this year, twenty four, brand new record, absolutely freaking

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massive churnout. The room was packed, one hundred and ninety

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two players needed to be drafted. For those that don't know,

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you guys can go to twenty five k fantasy dot com.

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You can see all the teams. You can read you

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know history, you can look at past results just two

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years ago. Just make sure you look at the result

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when we won. The rules are all on there, all

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that sort of good stuff. So you know, Tim and

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I will hit on some stuff. He was the auctioneer

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once again. A good job by you, thank you. I

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mean it was a it was a tall task.

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Speaker 2: The easiest thing to do. It was as you have.

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He's look, there's people that are listening to this podcast.

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I'm going to complain about them. David Baker, David odb

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Biker is like a mass He just just does this.

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He doesn't even put his hand out. He just kind

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of like one dollar, like I can't see it. And

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I miss people's bids, Like you need to just through

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the handoff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what we need, we need we

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need auction paddles. Next time.

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Speaker 2: No one would use them, that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: I know, we still need them. And if you don't

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use them, you don't get your bidden. That's the rule.

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And people damn paddle in the air. Let's pet it's

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just on one side it can be the twenty five

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K logo and on the other side you can write

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your name, your team name, you know, so just the

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people that can kind of know what's what's going on.

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Speaker 2: And I just love to quite the full use of

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the clock to get that one.

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Speaker 1: I think you, I think you have to do that.

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And I know Mickey who's off camera, my drafting partner,

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my co owner of our team, team dp MD. If

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you head to twenty five k Fantasy dot Com, I

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mean it's hard because you wanted to like slow down.

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You don't want to just be like going one dollar

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one dollar, one dollar, one dollar, because next thing you know,

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it's just going to keep skying the price. Right, So

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when you get to the part where you think it's

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gonna slow down, when you're kind of reaching that ceiling

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of where you think a player might land, okay, then

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you start going slow once again. Yours truly picked the

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most expensive player. I'm just every year, I'm just going

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to try and set a new record. That's that's the goal.

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Speaker 2: Is this what is the highest paid player ever of

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all time?

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Speaker 1: Jeremy, if you're listening, let's f and go buddy, come on,

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let's f and go. You got to do it.

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Speaker 2: He's spending some of the World Series in Coloradoway's family.

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Speaker 1: No stop, get out of here.

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Speaker 2: I spoke from him. He told me he's like, I'm

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missing two weeks in the middle to.

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Speaker 1: And Brent Hanks tried to tell me that come July first,

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he's not going to be playing anymore. Yeah, okay, whatever, guys, whatever,

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But yeah, I mean, listen, it was it was I

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think a good draft overall, you know, all things considered, again,

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I think you did a really good job just kind

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of keeping everything uh moving. There were a few hiccups,

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not not your fault. When you know team's bid or whatever,

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it's kind of you know, we didn't hear like like

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you said. You know, there are some teams that are

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they're very quiet with their bidding where they come in

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like very much last minute, you know. Or there's also

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the time when like some but you'll say fifteen and

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then like seven teams will say sixteen. Yeah, and it's like, oh,

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what's going on?

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Speaker 2: And the thing is, I normally take the one that

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I see with the hand ups. If you don't put

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your hand up, you're not going to get the benefit

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of the doubt there, and you also mentioned it twenty

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four teams they don't fit, you know, some teams of

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four people, five people. It's the whole studio is full,

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and like I'm kind of like left and right, so

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it does get a little difficult to see the entire

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room in one viewpoint. Maybe we need to change the

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set up a little bit. Next to you, But hey,

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did my best, and I'm surprised I didn't lose my voice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen with how much this thing has grown,

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you know, I kind of did just complain on the

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last podcast. How I'm surprised that this hasn't grown by

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like one and a half entries on average every single year.

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But we did get a big boost this year, so

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that's really cool. I'm sure that big boost will carry

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over to Odb's Fantasy League, which is the five hundred

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dollars buying fantasy league that you can get into, but

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you use the prices that were set in the twenty

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five K fantasy league. So again, go to twenty five

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fancy dot com and you guys can find all the

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details on that. Just quickly, before we get further into

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I are in there battling all the time. What is

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But I still don't understand it, and I'm brod.

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Speaker 2: I should really have it. Should be poker Donnie and poker.

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maybe we can do that. We should also get our

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Speaker 2: I'll pay for it. How much do they cost? I?

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all right. Twenty five K Fantasy A quick rundown of

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how it works auction draft. Everyone starts with two hundred

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dollars that they can bid with, and you know, you

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go around. One team nominates someone. There's a whole bunch

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of bidding. Tim here is the one who's like going once,

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going twice, sold to so and so. You have to

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fill up your team of eight players. And then when

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it's all said and done, the scoring is based on

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how these players do in World Series of Poker events.

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Only live events count. There are how many events don't count?

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Tag team doesn't count. I think that's it. I think

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everything else counts. Ladies, ladies count, senior count employees. No,

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I think it does. I'm pretty sure it does. But

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all the big stuff again, you guys can follow it

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on twenty five K fantasy dot com. I'm sure Tim

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and I will be talking about on the podcast regularly,

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as we always do. We will also be you know,

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sharing on social media various stuff. I know poker News.

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I know poker dot org they dedicate some resources to

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tracking stuff on poker news. They have little badges for

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all the players. They try and track the players. I

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know poker dot org is working closely with David Baker

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ODB on stuff where they're going to do more coverage.

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And I believe I heard on odb's pod that poker

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dot org is playing to have kind of a dedicated

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reporter to the twenty five K Fantasy League all summer long,

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So there's that as well.

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Speaker 2: They're also giving away ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, poker dot org is given away a ten thousand

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dollars seat. I don't know the exact link, but if

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you just go to poker dot org, I'm sure you

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can find it, or you can check the parkers.

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Speaker 2: Like two days and you submit a team onder the

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same kind of rules that ADIB runs and they I

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believe you win a ten thousand dollars seat to a

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Las Vegas tournament. So that could also mean PGT event.

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Ope baby Pokemasa's hope baby. Some of that, you know, Like,

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I don't think it's necessarily WSP bound, but but yeah,

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that's kind of pretty cool. I'm going to be entering

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my team.

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Speaker 1: So listen, no free ads, but they just got a

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really good free ad, so poker dot org to check

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that out. All right, I want to know from you, sir, okay.

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I was in the draft, so like, what what are

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sort of your initial big picture takeaways? Was it a

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shock to see, for example, US going up to one

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forty one on Jeremy Osmas. You know, like I feel

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like sitting there, Mickey and I are going back and

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forth with this time it was rent Linn, and I

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feel like, you know, it's us in ren Linn. But

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then there's you know, twenty two other teams that are

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looking at me like I'm an absolute alien out there.

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Speaker 2: The first thing coming into this, I was thinking, look,

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there's five six teams more than normal, and I know

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not if people know how to adjust to the job process, right,

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because what does this mean? Does it mean I take

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the Jeremy Osmas for one hundred and fifty bucks and

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then find all the dollar plays five hours later, or

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do I do something different? Like there's no precedent for

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a draft size this week, so I knew the strategies

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is that some people are idiots. There's no research, there's

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no look you and Mickey very well prepared. I looked

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see who their stars are. Not going to give anything away,

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but I just like, I like to see how prepared

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people are. And you see these guys, you know, with

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all these names columnize. You know, we want this one,

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we don't want to touch these ones. And then you

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see dance Apo mon Zamani sitting there with a notepad

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with names scribbled down and chicken scratch. You got other

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people that I don't know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: The best I know a team is. I mean, I'll

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say they're drawing dead. I just don't worry about them.

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When I see on their computer screen they're just looking

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at like twenty five k fantasy dot com from last year.

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I'm like, okay, you are drawing dead like you're just

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looking at the past result. You have no idea what's

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going on. Okay, cool, that's good, you know, But there

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to look at every one's notes, but you can see

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them if you just walk around the room or whatever.

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a lot of spreadsheets. They were They definitely brought preparation,

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you know, which which made things a bit harder overall.

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Speaker 2: So I think like the back the back end of

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the draft, right where it's you know, half the teams

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are gone and now pretty much wherever you nominate you're

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gonna get. I think that's where it's your team is made, right.

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long their list of the one dollar players is, you know,

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had an Australian team throwing out some Australian names that

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kind of mix things up. But I think that's where

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your team has made right, when you you lock up

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that star player like you guys did Jeremi Ozas, and

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then you can get these really high valued one dollar

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players that are going to like perform at a better

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dollar to point average than you know, some other people

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that are get drafted. And you can look at these

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names and you'll see that, Okay, he's super valued. He's

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super valued. And even you have people that you know,

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there's one name that stands out that didn't even get drafted.

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Did you know what I'm thinking, Alan Kesler didn't get drafted.

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Oh yeah, yeah, I must say Alan Kessel is the

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best park of player in the world. But you get

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in what are we getting seventy events from him? Maybe?

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Who knows he's gonna be in the ten k mixes.

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He's going to play the little stuff. Whether you think

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he's good, it's just a volume player you could have got.

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You look at all these the eighth player drafted for

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all these teams. I feel like Alan Kessa might be

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better than half of them. Yeah, value wise, say value.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. You know, I think I think

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people kind of struggle at the end of the draft

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and they just start throwing out names that they know

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or have heard. And I know Alankester is not always

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the most popular player within that room, but uh yeah,

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normally he does make an appearance. By the way, he

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didn't make an appearance this time on specially the helmet appearance,

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you know, as he.

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Speaker 2: Was getting nominated and on, which was like the's timing possible. Yeah,

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that was impeccable.

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Speaker 1: That was crazy. I guess. Just a quick aside, if

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you guys did miss the draft, and you do want

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to go check it out and see what it's about,

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you can head to the poker go dot com YouTube channel.

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We did stream the entire draft from start to finish,

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so that is available. I know there were plenty of

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people that were tuned in. The chat was extremely active throughout,

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so if you want to go back and check that out,

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you are certainly welcome to do.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about your team, and then let's talk

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about teams we like, or we could just like kind

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of whatever stands out to us. I think that's the

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best way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, draft is over. So last episode

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when we were doing the predictions and I want you know,

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one of the questions was who's the favorite twin player

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of the year. My favorite twin player of the year

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is Jeremy Osmas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I backed out from saying it on that episode because

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I didn't want people to listen in and possibly get

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an idea that we were going to be taking him.

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That was the player. Mickey and I decided that, you know,

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we agreed, this is the guy we we're essentially going

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to go all in on. And to be honest, as

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I was bidding and going back and forth with Renlin,

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I thought I was gonna have to go to one

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ninety three. It got to the point where I was like,

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here we go.

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Speaker 2: If we're talking about peop without a strategy, it could

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be red Lane. I felt like you you too.

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Speaker 1: At one point, Renlan looked at me and he said,

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I got a whole bunch of one dollar players. I'm like, yeah, okay,

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so do I buddy, Like, what do you want me

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to do?

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Speaker 2: It's it was when you guys were going at it.

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I wish there was There's no a duck un draft order, right.

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Speaker 1: No, but I will say that. So the first player

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nominated was Nick Shulman, and he went for over one

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hundred dollars. It was one hundred and seven, which, listen,

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Mick and I were both Mickey and I were both

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very big on Nick Shulman. But it's one of those

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things where we know if we want Ozmas ultimately we

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can't also get Shulman. I mean, maybe there is a

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world where, you know, some miracle, you know, fantasy universe

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where that happens, but it's very likely that's not going

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to happen, Okay. I was surprised to see that Nick

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did push up over one hundred. Now it's again, it's

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not that we don't agree that he is that type

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of player, it's just that in the past he hasn't

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gotten that high. He's been a bit lower. He's been

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like in the seventies, I think if I recall so,

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so that was interesting to start, but then once that happened,

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I mean my initial thought was, Okay, we are going

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to have to go to the one thirties, one forties

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for our top guy, Jeremy Osmas. You know, Mickey the

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freaking goat. He's like, Jeremy Austmas is probably going to

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go for one hundred and forty. That was like his

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projected number what he had, and he ended up going

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for one forty one. So Mickey had that very much nailed.

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But it could have also went the other way, where

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was like, Okay, well maybe if everyone's kind of all

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in on Shulman, maybe then they're not all in on Ozmas,

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you know. So so yeah, I mean, ultimately it just

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it came down to ren Linn and I and we

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were going back and forth one dollar piece. To be honest,

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I don't really understand the strategy from these other teams.

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If you're bidding against me and you're up to one forty.

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Why are you not continuing to just go? Especially bren

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Lynn who claims that he has a one dollar player, Like,

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I don't. I don't like one forty is your cap?

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Like what is this cap?

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Speaker 2: Did you have a cap on Jeremy?

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Speaker 1: That's no, the cap was one ninety three, which is

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the mac CONFIGU teammate Mickey, Yeah, damn. And we I mean,

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I'll tell you what our plan was. If it got

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to like one seventy five. I was saying one ninety three,

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because you can at that point you can't risk not

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getting that player if that's who we want. So it's like,

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at some point you can't risk like possibly saying if

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he says one seventy five, I say one seventy six.

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Then he says one ninety three, Like we don't want

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to risk that. So we were like, okay, fine, here

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we go. If it gets that high, I'm just gonna

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have to say the number like I mean, and then

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we're gonna leave the room for four hours and come

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back and try and draft a bunch of one dollar players.

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That was the plan. But like, I don't understand that

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strategy Another strategy that I don't understand is these teams.

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There was several of them today, and there is several

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of them every year. They're in on like every player

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that gets nominated. I'm like, what mind? So weird to me,

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it seems like you should just you should pick your

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kind of target guys and you should go after them. Now,

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speaking of target guys and pulling this back to our team,

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everyone that we got on our team all A players.

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We got Jeremy Osmas, Seth Davies, Stevensong, John Shorman, Boris Angelov,

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Tommy Coral, Nicholas Milgrim, and Urie Reichenstein we had on

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our list, So they were targeted players from US. Now

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that some of them were a bit further down the list, yes,

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because obviously players get taken from you, you get out bid,

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all that sort of stuff. But we got everyone that

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we set out that was on a list. We didn't

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have to pull any audibles. We didn't have to, like,

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you know, randomly be like, oh, we got to pull

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this guy in because all of our guys are gone. No.

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So I feel good in the preparation that we did.

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I will also admit that at some point it did

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feel a little touch and go because some of the

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players were getting thrown out from some other teams who

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had more money and they were bidding on them. So yeah,

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so it was it was an interesting draft. Our plan

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a coming into it was Ozma's at Ozmas. First. We

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love the fact that we drew the three card to

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nominate third so that we could nominate Ozmas and just

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go get him right away. And then we wanted the

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King John Reardan.

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Speaker 2: How much did they spend on Real fifty four?

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Speaker 1: We went all in at fifty three and we got

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out bid.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of that today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just that's just outrageous by that team.

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It's definitely from the set Davies pick.

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Speaker 2: The reason being is obviously there's gonna be some high

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roles here in the studio, so we may lose him

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for that, but is he gonna fall in that kind

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of Jason Kuhn category with.

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Speaker 1: Seth Davey said, everything Nolan had hold him in PLO

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ten k pluk, A bunch of stuff below that, I'm

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gonna be firing hard. He's ready to go. You know

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Another thing that that we did, Mickey and I is

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we spoke to pretty much everyone on our team. I mean,

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we didn't speak to Stephen Song, but we don't We

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don't need to speak to Stephen Song. We know about

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Steven Song, and we didn't speak to bors Angelo, but

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we had secondhand information from somebody invested in our team

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about Boris Angelov. Everyone else. We had direct messages from

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going back and forth to them. Hey, this is like

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kind of what I'm planning whatever. I had no idea

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how to reach Ury Richton sign. I've always wanted to

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draft him, and I got ahold of his email, fired

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off an email the guy replied in thirty minutes. Without

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thirty minutes. I was like, this guy is in ready

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to go, ready to f and go. So, Uri Baby,

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you are our field bonus king. Please make it happen.

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You and Stephen Song. I'm expecting two big field bonuses.

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Speaker 2: Can you can you throw us some some one dollar players?

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You you had, you you were targeting if say the

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Nick Milgrims, Tom Carl's, Uri Richard Signs didn't didn't come

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you away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we had Ian Steinmann again, who who came?

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We nominated him and then somebody immediately said eight dollars

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or something. So I mean that was, yeah, that was unfortunate.

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We had Ryan Lang on our team or on our list.

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We had he went early, didn't he? Yeah, fairly early.

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We had Renji Mao Ricky who ended up getting picked

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up by.

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Speaker 2: That was the best part of the So, for those

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who's not aware, rend Land gives me these names. So

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I don't know if he saw he wrote the names down.

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He always does this, he's very great. This time he

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wrote them in Chinese, in Chinese characters. I don't read that.

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I can read my name in Chinese. Then the real name.

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He probably just thought fellow Asian. Maybe there's a shot. Yeah,

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And I was like, I think I got the pronunciation

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pretty well because I had to ask him like did

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I pronounce this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good, but like you definitely butchered some others.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm terrible for those, I'm terrible at pronunciation,

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but I do my best. And then he had Renjie Mao,

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who's also Ricky Mao. I guess Ricky was sitting at

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the table with them, and I think it was Brent

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and someone else were bidding on him. Brent didn't even

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know he was sitting there. Renji brought out his camera

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and was filming it as he was getting bid on

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a bit like Phil Holmer. So I already love this guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's going pretty hard. He's got a big package.

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Speaker 2: He so big for him.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean we had a bunch of people,

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you know, we had people. We don't necessarily call him

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one dollar players. We call them bargain players because maybe

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we need to get him for three, four or five

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something like that. So one of our biggest guys is

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somebody that we had last year, and that was Dario Alioto.

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But you know, for whatever reason, other people were on

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him and he went for a crap ton of money

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and went for twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty something, and that was twenty five.

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Speaker 1: We have to have the best hit rate our team

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over the years of putting somebody on the map for

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like sub five dollars and then all of a sudden,

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they're John Reard and fifty four dollars. Yeah, Like we

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were on Stephen Song, we were on Dario Alioto, you know,

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we were on obviously John Reard, and like we've been

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on all these guys for cheap. It goes back to

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the whole genesis of the entire thing. Myself and Rich

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Ryan talking some smack on the on the Poker News

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podcast back in the day, saying like, it's Ivy in

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the Misfits, it's Ivy for one ninety three and seven

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players for a dollar. And that was the whole idea.

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And you know, basically Daniel Lagrond and listened to the podcast,

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said hey, you guys can sell action and get in

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here if you want. That's how we ended up getting

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into the thing. You know, Basically, Daniel was like, if

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you guys are going to talk to talk, you need

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to come out here and prove it and try and

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walk the walk. So we've been in this thing every time.

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Speaker 2: You proved it one time, we did, we did win

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it one time everybody, but this is this is the

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year to win.

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is the year to win. So yeah, So

471
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,200
we have Jeremy Olsm's one hundred and forty one dollars

472
00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:25,200
set Davies twenty nine dollars. He's our next most expensive player.

473
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,000
And Davies is our you know, he's our high roller guy.

474
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000
We want definitely wanted to target a guy who is

475
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,880
like he's going to play the two fifty k, the

476
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,480
hundred k, you know, the fifty k is all that

477
00:21:34,519 --> 00:21:36,359
sort of stuff we wanted, like one of those guys

478
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,559
on the team. Seth has been absolutely on fire the

479
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,839
last what year, maybe eight months to a year, you know,

480
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,359
absolutely crushing it. Not that he hasn't been an extremely

481
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,079
good player over the years, it's just you know, variants

482
00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:50,079
as a giant bitch, and it doesn't always work out

483
00:21:50,079 --> 00:21:53,160
for you. Steven Song our third year in a row

484
00:21:53,559 --> 00:21:55,880
with mister Song, so we love to have him. We

485
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,839
got him for seventeen. We were prepared to go a

486
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,359
little bit higher, and then we rounded up the team.

487
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,680
John Shuman a dollar, Boris Angelova dollar, Tommy Coral a dollar,

488
00:22:03,759 --> 00:22:06,519
Nicholas Milgram four dollars, but he was really one dollar.

489
00:22:06,599 --> 00:22:09,079
We bid four dollars because at that time, the way

490
00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:11,839
that we structured things, no one else could bid higher

491
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,359
than four dollars. So I believe it was Daniel Legrandu

492
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,599
who threw him out for a dollar. We said four,

493
00:22:16,759 --> 00:22:19,359
shut everyone out, great, and then we had six dollars

494
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,599
left over for Euri Uygenstein. You know, we just nominated

495
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,799
him for six dollars knowing no one else had that

496
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,160
money left. So in terms of like strategic maneuvering at

497
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,079
the end, with the money that we had. I'm very

498
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,240
very happy with how we closed things out because we

499
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,880
we planned our nominations in a way that we're like, Okay,

500
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,440
let's throw this guy out there. Maybe he'll slip through

501
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,480
for a dollar. If not, that's fine. We do want

502
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,960
to save money for Nicholas Milgram and Euri Reichenstein should

503
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000
we need it at the end, because we definitely want

504
00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:48,680
those two guys. And you know, as it turns out,

505
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,440
I mean, it's not that those guys wouldn't have come

506
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,480
to us for one or two dollars, but we were

507
00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:54,279
able to for sure lock him in, Like it was

508
00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:57,160
basically Mickey saying, yeah, ury Rich densign six dollars, just

509
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,880
give him to us because no one else has that money,

510
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,640
so he's ours. So overall, I'm extremely happy with things. Obviously,

511
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,599
this whole thing is a giant you know, gamble on

512
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,359
a variance fest. So whatever, what else you got for me?

513
00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: No, I'm just I'm looking at the teams. I'm trying

514
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,799
to see if I can do I have a favorite team.

515
00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: Well, you keep looking. I'm going to run through the

516
00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:20,799
top ten most expensive players from this draft. So we

517
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,880
have Jeremy Osmas on our team one hundred and forty

518
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,640
one dollars, a record price for the twenty five K

519
00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:31,920
Fantasy draft. Then it's Scott sever one hundred and twenty

520
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,000
five dollars. According to multiple sources, Scott sever is trying

521
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,799
to run it back for WSP Player of the Year.

522
00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:42,640
So he's the second most pricey player. Yuri's Evelevski aka

523
00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:47,000
ury nerd Guy, the Brazilian superstar, third most expensive player

524
00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:50,359
at one hundred and nineteen dollars. Then you have Daniel Legrandu,

525
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,720
who was drafted by himself one hundred and eight dollars.

526
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,440
For him, we paid one thirty two I believe last

527
00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:59,640
year Nick Shulman one oh seven. He was the first

528
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,680
player off the board, nominated by Mike Lang's team and

529
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:07,440
then ultimately drafted for one oh seven. Jesse loanis an

530
00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:12,680
absolutely massive price for Jesse loanis one hundred and three dollars.

531
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,240
So those those are the top six. Then we have

532
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,640
everyone else within the top ten is above ninety dollars.

533
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,359
So we had Sean deeb at ninety nine, Benny Glaser

534
00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:25,680
at ninety nine. Phil Ivey must be back because phil

535
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,559
Ivey went for ninety five dollars. I Mickey and I

536
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,559
talked and I said, I think phil Ivey's back, Like

537
00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:34,839
I think he's back. So it seems like other players

538
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,319
seem to agree ninety five dollars for Ivy and then

539
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,359
James Ops, you're a Aussie boy ninety one dollars who

540
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,079
was on our list for kind of like mid tierish

541
00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:47,480
possibly bargain because he's one of those weird players who

542
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:49,359
I don't think a lot of people talk to him

543
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,119
or know about him. But then he walked in the

544
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,000
room of course.

545
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: With teams sent him an email on your behalf.

546
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: No, no, I know, but I'm saying a lot of he's

547
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,559
just like a guy who I don't think a lot

548
00:24:57,599 --> 00:25:00,599
of people have connections, you know, so they just kind

549
00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:02,960
of don't know what's going to happen. But then he

550
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,119
walked in the room, so obviously you could tell that. Okay,

551
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,759
probably a lot of people are going to be on him.

552
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:08,920
So that's that, I guess the other and.

553
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: I give you some intel on that, yeah, go ahead.

554
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:12,920
So I just found I was talking to dider Geren,

555
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,880
who is the I guess the captain of the Team

556
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,440
Australia team. He was telling me that in back in

557
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,559
Australia in the poker tournaments the APL, they run something

558
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,200
very similar to this but for Australian players for their

559
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,839
major series, so they're running their own kind of twenty

560
00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:29,680
five K fantasy.

561
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,519
Speaker 1: I mean we need to be doing this for every

562
00:25:31,519 --> 00:25:32,079
PG show.

563
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Da was drafted last year in the Mark Gregory's draft,

564
00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:38,000
which got him interested, and then they launched that in Australia,

565
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:39,480
so he's been playing that and he's like, you know what,

566
00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:42,440
I'm gonna jump in. I know how the rules, I

567
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,119
know how it works, and that's why he drafting a team,

568
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,160
and that's why he also drafted James Ups, who was

569
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,319
sitting at the team with him.

570
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: I guess I should move over to hit on Daniel

571
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,319
legrand New's team next, just because we do have some

572
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,880
audio and video with Daniels. So Daniel ended up with

573
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,160
himself first, which I asked him about in the interview,

574
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,279
so you'll hear his thoughts there. He also finished with

575
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,720
Jous Samoo. Those were his top two most expensive guys.

576
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,759
He's got Mike Madisou aka the Mouth. He's got Anthony Zeno,

577
00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:20,279
Shout out Zeno. He's got Eric E. Dog Lingren Tyler Brown,

578
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:24,359
John Turner, and this is the pick of the draft,

579
00:26:24,759 --> 00:26:29,359
Nick Palmer. NICKI, I mean the universe is this pick.

580
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,000
So that is Daniel Legrand News team. And let's just

581
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:35,039
throw it to Dan Eggs right now and let's hear

582
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:39,440
from him. After the twenty five K Fantasy Draft. Oh,

583
00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:40,400
it's unbelievable.

584
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,839
Speaker 3: Like I had these people saying I want a team,

585
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,279
and people say that every year. I'm yeah, but it's

586
00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:45,200
twenty five thousand, and then they sent me twenty five

587
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:45,960
thousand in bitcourt.

588
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, we'll see you here. Obviously.

589
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 3: It just shows how much this thing has really really

590
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,960
grown and how much people see throughout the summer they

591
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,319
have this fomo. They want to be a part of it.

592
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:56,079
They want to draft their own team. And now you

593
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,680
have the other extended aspect, which is the David bakerpool.

594
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,279
Speaker 1: So for the low rollers, you're.

595
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: Gonna have a chance to build your own team. Taking

596
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,640
a look at the scores here, and it's a big

597
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,640
group of players with twenty four teams. I had no

598
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,079
intention of drafting myself because the way that I look

599
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,920
at it is when you have an expanded group of teams,

600
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,799
if you do any other fantasy. You realize that, like

601
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,039
there's less high value targets, so they go up in price.

602
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,720
And I saw my so last year I went for

603
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,480
one thirty two. I'm like, these guys are gonna spend

604
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:21,279
one sixty on me, But all of a sudden, I

605
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:24,079
hear one oh seven and nobody's well want to wait?

606
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,559
So now I had to go complete audible with my strategy.

607
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:30,039
My strategy was Max Colman Jowel Smoo was my big two.

608
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,599
So now it's instead me and Joel Smoll. So I'll

609
00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:34,240
take that. The thing is, you want to get value.

610
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,400
Mattis I at three dollars is value? E dogg at

611
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,000
two is most certainly value. Tyler Brown I really like

612
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:40,359
his game. I think he went for what he was

613
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,319
supposed to, probably Ish and pearl jam. You know, he's

614
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,720
a guy who can play all the mixed games for

615
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:47,880
a buck. The wildcard is, of course, Nicky Pete. He's

616
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,480
he was texting on Stop saying, bro, I'm bringing it.

617
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,480
I'm gonna have a great summer.

618
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:52,599
Speaker 2: Pick me, pick me.

619
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: I looked at my list, I'm like, I think it's

620
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:57,240
time to give Nicky p a shot. Well, we got

621
00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:59,960
fifty k's fifty k's lady gagat Team China. I always

622
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:00,599
play every year.

623
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,039
Speaker 1: It's a fifty K bet.

624
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:03,839
Speaker 3: I'm charging him one hundred percent tariff, so he's got

625
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,200
to lay.

626
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:05,039
Speaker 1: A hundred and fifty k.

627
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,319
Speaker 3: But I like his team. I almost was going to

628
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,799
go with the strategy of sniping his team because he

629
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:11,319
always picks a couple of big guys and then picks

630
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,200
these Asian guys we don't know, and I don't know

631
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,279
them either. But I was just gonna say two you know,

632
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,680
on randoms like but I didn't go that route.

633
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,799
Speaker 1: All right, So that was d naggs. You heard it there.

634
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,799
I mean, he's got people were coming up to him

635
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,960
by the way afterwards. You know, he's going side bed

636
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,599
side bed side bets. Fifty K here fifty K. I mean,

637
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:32,240
this guy's got to have three hundred K on this draft.

638
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: And what maybe maybe what they will do it that's

639
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:38,039
what it is. It is.

640
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: Well, I I don't ever do any side bets for

641
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:43,119
our team. I am essentially all in on with what

642
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,680
I want to invest on the team. And and that's that,

643
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,319
you know, And.

644
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Plus a lot of the teammate wants to do a

645
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:49,400
side bet.

646
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,799
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys will hold on a lot

647
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:51,920
of these guys come up to you and they're like,

648
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,519
you know, a five K side. But I'm like, no,

649
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,880
I don't know what you guys, No, no, we're not

650
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,599
doing that. Like I'm fully like, this is already. It's

651
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,960
you know, it's a giant crapshoot as is. Yeah, you

652
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:04,720
know you're betting on people who are gambling for the

653
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:07,920
next seven weeks. I mean that's just it's crazy. So whatever,

654
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,680
But what he's got he wanted to side of it.

655
00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was talking trash about I'm not gonna I

656
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:13,759
want to say the night. But he was talking atle

657
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:16,079
bit of trash about one of the teams he's ready

658
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,440
to ready, he'll get in fire away And maybe he

659
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:24,079
was sliding into some d ms via Twitter and get

660
00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:25,200
some side action on himself.

661
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: So a couple of picks I thought were I guess crazy, wild, insane.

662
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,400
First of all, there was some names that I've I've

663
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:43,000
never heard of, which I think that's great. A Romaane Morvin, Marvin,

664
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:45,559
I don't even know how to pronounce that. From Team Australia.

665
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,640
I think Team Australia, I feel like they brought three

666
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,599
Australians and the like was going to draft them, Like

667
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:50,279
that's just how.

668
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,799
Speaker 2: What's funny is one of the guys that they nominated

669
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,920
for a dollar got picked up by Team Novig. I'm like,

670
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,240
and then they didn't they had money, they didn't spend

671
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,319
any more money on on getting him. I was wondering if, like,

672
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,440
why did they not you know, look up he's saying

673
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,079
them right now. Was that Cooper felt felt to him

674
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:10,000
he's got six hundred k in winnings. Yeah, I don't

675
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,640
know who that is. I don't know either, not that

676
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:13,599
Cooper is not a good player, but I don't know. Yeah,

677
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:15,319
but I'm surprised if they got to know isn't at

678
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,240
the draft? Yeah, yeah, he was at the draft. Yeah. Look,

679
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,039
I'm surprised they didn't just add the one more dollar

680
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:21,359
to try and get him because the guy that got

681
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,599
him only had three dollars that he was maxed out

682
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,559
of three bid two see would have got him for

683
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:28,440
one more dollars. So I don't know, maybe he's not playing.

684
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean John Raisner for fifty four dollars is

685
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:35,720
probably the most absurd pack of the draft.

686
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:39,319
Speaker 2: The guys having a kid. Okay, if he didn't know

687
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,160
that would it be an absurd price? Okay because I

688
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,240
didn't know he was having a kid. Okay, but here's

689
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:47,000
the thing. You have to know that stuff.

690
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: You can't just gamble player like you need like Mickey

691
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,720
and I, and even before Mickey and I doing the

692
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:55,680
draft this year, I've always been like, I want to

693
00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:58,119
have an idea of what these guys. Don't just want

694
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,519
to like throw hail mary's. You know, there have been

695
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:02,960
times when we have you know, thrown hail mary's in

696
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,599
the past and we've ultimately been burned by things. So

697
00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:08,160
we don't want to have that happen.

698
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: You know.

699
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: You want to try and gather as much information at

700
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:13,079
you as you can, just like you're doing in poker,

701
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:15,000
where you're trying to collect all the information that you

702
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:19,920
can to hopefully make the best decision. Still an incomplete decision, right,

703
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,680
You're just trying to get everything, trying to use as

704
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:25,200
much research as possible, you know, as much you know,

705
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:27,599
reaching out to people, talking to people, all that sort

706
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:30,319
of stuff. You can check sites like Poker State, you

707
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:33,400
can go on social media like whatever it is, and

708
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,559
just trying to feel stuff out and that team splash

709
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,039
the octop I remember they drafted him and they came

710
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:40,799
over to us and they're like, oh, Racinger for fifty

711
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:42,400
four dollars, like that seems like a good pick. And

712
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,799
I was like, in my head, I'm like, he's having

713
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:46,319
a kid. He's probably only going to make a couple

714
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:48,440
of trips here and there. Listen, if Racer's here playing

715
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,880
every single day, he's probably an eighty or ninety dollars player. Okay,

716
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,519
he's not going to be here every day, So you

717
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,160
just can't. I don't think you can spend that type

718
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,160
of capital. And I think you could tell by the

719
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,039
teams that were bidding on Racer. There was teams that

720
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,759
knew that he was having a kid, and there were

721
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:03,799
other teams that didn't know, and the ones that didn't

722
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:06,160
know were bidding on him. So you know, what are

723
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,440
you going to do there? Overall? So yeah, that that

724
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:14,680
team overall splashy OCTOPI, it seems somewhat questionable to me.

725
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,039
I mean, I do like, I like reard in for

726
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:20,720
fifty four, but that also feels like one of the

727
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,359
things where I think Rearden is worth fifty four to us.

728
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,119
I don't know if he's really worth fifty four. You know,

729
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,960
we just have him near and dear to our heart,

730
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,839
King John Reard in the third is I love to

731
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,119
call it.

732
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: He's a locker room guy, good chemistry exactly. Yeah, he's

733
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,880
the glue of the team. So you know why I

734
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,200
don't like on Splash Octipy not the biggest. I know

735
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:43,920
it's cheap a Eric Baldwin five dollars. How many venation

736
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,000
and win events? Is he going to play over World Series?

737
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: Sure, I actually don't mind that pick.

738
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,079
Speaker 2: It was their last pick, but just like I wonder

739
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:52,759
if they could maybe I don't know, they could have

740
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:53,480
maybe found someone.

741
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious on what because of how they approached

742
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,440
John Race. John'm curious if they know anything about Mike

743
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:02,279
Leo spoke to Mike Lee. Yeah, was on our bargain list.

744
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,480
But he's only he's only making a few trips except

745
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,200
four weeks, right. I think he put out a table

746
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:08,920
and he and he's you know, he's probably good for

747
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,279
a dollar maybe, But like, I just don't know what

748
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,279
they're what they think about him, because I just think

749
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:17,880
overall their team has a lot of gaps in terms

750
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,039
of schedule. We talked about Mike Rowdinski is one of

751
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:26,400
those players who I don't think plays a full schedule anymore. Right,

752
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,960
Mike Lea is not going to You just brought up

753
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,440
the point about Eric Baldwin that's worth making. Is he

754
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:32,519
going to be venue hopping?

755
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

756
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: You know. So there's that Ray Henson. I don't I

757
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:37,720
don't know about Ray.

758
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: You know, is he really can he really out dedicate

759
00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:43,240
seven weeks here? Was he going to do two weeks here?

760
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,039
One way? Come two weeks? See it? Kind of thing?

761
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,039
Speaker 1: So I think Eric Sidell, who's on their team, as

762
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,519
an incredible player. You know, the guy's a freaking legend.

763
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:53,480
You know. There's an article on poker Stake where they

764
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,519
did speak to him. He said twenty five to thirty events.

765
00:33:56,359 --> 00:33:59,839
So I think if you're ultimately comfortable with that, then

766
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:03,559
that's fine. Maybe you want, you know, to get up

767
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,119
closer to like forty to fifty events, right, love them

768
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,760
the Robert ms Rocky pick. I do really like that one.

769
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,440
I think that's their best pick overall. Again, because even

770
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,280
though I love John Reardan, I just think that John

771
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,440
Rearden is not worth the price to other teams. He's

772
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,800
worth it to us. Okay, this is our guy, Okay,

773
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,719
I mean, let's just quickly run through some of these

774
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,360
other teams and we'll kind of like be like, okay,

775
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,840
we like this, we don't like this. You know, we

776
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,119
won't keep this super like in depth about everything. I'll

777
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:36,599
just go through, like as the draft order went. Mike

778
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:40,400
Lang's team, Shannon Shore for thirty five, Iamatakis former Player

779
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,480
of the Year for twenty, Ari Angle for twenty. I

780
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:45,480
don't like that pick at all, Dan Shack for ten,

781
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,800
Adam Owned for twenty two, Sam Soverll for four, Josh

782
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,079
Reiker for thirty seven, and then Ryan Hoenig for fifty two.

783
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,400
I know that price tag at the end there might

784
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:56,440
shock a lot of people, but they were they had

785
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,840
the most money at the time, and they just said,

786
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,639
we're all in. You know, it's our last pick. We're

787
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:02,440
out of here type of thing. Anything stick out to

788
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,039
you there, and if when we run through these teams,

789
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:06,639
if nothing sticks out, we can just quickly move on.

790
00:35:06,679 --> 00:35:07,360
It's not a big deal.

791
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 2: C plus grade, C plus.

792
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: Grade, Okay, I like it. We had Adam Owen on

793
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:16,719
our bargain list. Obviously, there were many other teams on

794
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:20,400
him as a as a a target player, you know,

795
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:24,280
even for a somewhat cheaper price, and he ended up

796
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,000
going for twenty two. The Ari angle thing is just

797
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,079
tricky because honestly, and he's I think he said it before,

798
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:31,800
like on social media, I could be at the freaking

799
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,199
binions playing the three hundred dollars omaha, Like you just

800
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,599
never know what that guy. So there's that. I heard

801
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,119
Sam Silverll might be playing mostly like here and there

802
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:44,599
at the WSP and focusing on the stuff here at

803
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:47,639
the studio the big PGT events, So so I don't

804
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:50,800
know about that now. Josh reit Guard is invested in

805
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,639
their team, so having him there, you know he's probably

806
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:56,440
a good player. He's like their version of our Steven

807
00:35:56,519 --> 00:36:00,639
Song team Fena Poker, Kevin Gerhart for FI Team, Sean

808
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,679
Deep for ninety nine, Chris Vich for forty eight, Max

809
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,000
Pescatory for two, Daniel Cpo for twelve, hal Rotholts for

810
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:12,440
five dollars, Matt Valo, who is the co founder owner

811
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,119
CEO Fenum Poker, and then huck Seed for oh great,

812
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:18,159
pick the huck seed for a doll You're only saying

813
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:20,960
that because Mickey off camera the huck Seed for a

814
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:23,320
dollar is I mean, is hux he gonna play.

815
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,039
Speaker 2: Look, he is a phenom pro, right, so maybe he

816
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,239
really I thought he was.

817
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: I haven't could tell you. I have no idea.

818
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: Okay, then maybe I don't know. He has a BA.

819
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:35,360
This is a this is a bee a B because

820
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,000
they have Dave He's gonna play ten thousand events, they

821
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:41,960
have Kevin gohodho's going to be and all the mix

822
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:43,159
was same with Viitch.

823
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: So the sametory The interesting part about Kevin Gearhart and

824
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,960
this is where some teams have an advantage over other teams.

825
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,000
I talked to Kevin and I asked him, and are

826
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:53,679
you are you doing anything at twenty five k A.

827
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,719
You're helping a team because he's helped teams in the past,

828
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,719
and obviously Kevin has done some commentary alongside me. We're

829
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,159
relatively close, you know, all that sort of stuff. And

830
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,960
he said, yeah, he's helping out with the team. This

831
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:04,840
is the team that he helped out with pen Poker.

832
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,840
And he also said that the team he's helping out with,

833
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,480
if they draft him, are going to be willing to

834
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:11,920
put him in some bigger stuff. So this is another

835
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,119
one where as the bidding's going back and forth between

836
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,559
this team Fenom Poker and whoever the other team was.

837
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,360
I'm thinking, well, it's way more valuable valuable to Phenom

838
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,719
Poker if they're ultimately going to put him in tournaments

839
00:37:24,199 --> 00:37:26,440
versus the other team who might spend up and then

840
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,679
he doesn't play those bigger like ten K mixed events.

841
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:31,239
So the fact that Phenom did ultimately land him is

842
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,000
probably a very good thing one for Kevin. You know,

843
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:35,159
he gets take some more shots, which you often see

844
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:37,920
through the twenty five K Fantasy League, and then you know,

845
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,400
it probably benefits Phenom Poker overall. We already talked about

846
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,840
our team, so we'll skip them. We'll move over to

847
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,679
the Dinkers, the defending champs. They got Benny Glauser for

848
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,400
ninety nine. They got Dylan Wiseman for fifty one, David

849
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,079
Prociak for five dollars, Brandon Wilson for a buck, Sergio

850
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,079
Ido for two dollars, who we had last year, Victor

851
00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:00,559
Blam for twenty two, Alan Lee for nine, and Alex

852
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,199
Ponokovs for eleven.

853
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: This team's I like, I really like this team.

854
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I know you and I have talked about

855
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,679
Allen Lee in the past.

856
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: Love love Allen Lee.

857
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:15,039
Speaker 1: He's a very selective player, so you know that's gonna

858
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:18,360
be interesting. They so these last two picks, Alan Lee

859
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,199
for nine dollars and Alex Ponokoffs for eleven dollars. They

860
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,840
had eighteen dollars left, which I think was the most

861
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,519
out of anyone at the time, and they structured it

862
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:28,320
so that no one else could outbid them. They said

863
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,599
Allen Lee for nine, they said Alex Ponocoafs for eleven.

864
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,760
So that's how they went about that.

865
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: I think that Prosiac pick will be good value. I

866
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,039
think Sergio is good value two dollars, probably going to

867
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:38,599
play everything up to the two fifty k when it

868
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:41,239
comes to hold him. And you know, Brandon Wilson for

869
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,559
a dollar, you don't know what he's going to play,

870
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,840
but you know he's results speak for himself.

871
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I life, my concern would be Brandon Wilson.

872
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:51,039
It's just a roster spot for a guy who I

873
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:54,519
could feel like could play five events like two fifty k,

874
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,599
hunter K fifty k, you know like that, like that's it.

875
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah him, all right.

876
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: Team Novig this was a new team this year. They

877
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,519
got Chance Corneck for eighty Chris Brewer for seventy, Brad

878
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:08,159
Ruman for thirty one, Yuki Zoo aka rich Zoo for thirteen,

879
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,400
Nick Seward for one, Cooper felt Him for two, Ismael

880
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:17,239
Bojang for two, and Kyle Miholitch for one. I don't

881
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,719
know Cooper, you know, I know I looked up his

882
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,679
hendon after his name was called. I don't know Kyle.

883
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,320
I looked up his hendon after his name of called.

884
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,559
They feel like, you know, kind of those boom Er

885
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:28,079
Bust low price. Hopefully you hit a couple of field

886
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:32,440
bonuses types of guys. The Ismael Bojang pick. I know

887
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:34,960
he's been a popular name in the past. I just

888
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,880
have no idea what his volume is going to be like,

889
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,039
so I would worry there.

890
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,039
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if Yuki Zoo put out any tweets

891
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:45,199
telling people how well his schedule was. So that's that

892
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,039
thirteen dollars there. You don't know, is he really going

893
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:49,760
to be playing a full schedule?

894
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if he is, then he's he's That's that's

895
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,960
a pretty good pick. So I don't. I don't hate

896
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:54,320
this one.

897
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: I just don't like how they finished that draft.

898
00:39:56,679 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: See, I don't I don't like having a guy like

899
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:03,119
Chance corn as your biggest player. Not that Chance Corneth

900
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,039
is not good, and not that he's not worth a

901
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:10,199
hefty price, but I just don't think the overall volume

902
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,079
is going to be there, you know, So I just

903
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:14,360
don't know.

904
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: That was another one with a kid at home back

905
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,079
in I think, what is it.

906
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: Tnational now or maybe Nashville one or the other?

907
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that like, is he you know, we know he

908
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,719
can play everything, all buyings, all games, PLO and the limit,

909
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,039
but is he going to do the two.

910
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: Weeks they play the big pillows?

911
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: Of course he plays a big pilo, Yeah, but is

912
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,360
he going to do two weeks here to go back

913
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,199
to spend the time with the family kind of come back?

914
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:38,079
And you know, he's one of those ones, or he

915
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:40,639
could honestly just be you know, he doesn't play our

916
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:44,360
events anymore, mainly because for a multitude of reasons. But

917
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,039
it could be something where he is completely invested in

918
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,679
the World Series and playing the three K hold him

919
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,760
a fifteen hundred or you know, even the Gladiators of

920
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,039
Poker as well as everything up to one hundred K.

921
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:58,719
We don't really sure. So I don't think him being

922
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,920
an anchor is horrible. I just don't like how they

923
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:04,159
finished that drop with the with the Boggain.

924
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: Players Glue Factory. That was Danny Cipo's team. He got

925
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:18,800
Phil Ivy for ninety five. Ivy's back. I guess he's back, babies,

926
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,320
Nacho Barbaro for fifty nine. John Kite for twenty six,

927
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,480
who we had on our bargain list, has been having

928
00:41:26,559 --> 00:41:30,280
some success recently. Believe he's a British player and has

929
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,280
a pretty big poker steak offering out there. Brock Wilson

930
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,800
for five, Giorgio's Sodoropolis for three, Cherish Andrews for three,

931
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,719
Andrew Lichtenberger for one, Ian Steinman for eight. They stole

932
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:43,039
Ian Steinman for us.

933
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love that Boggin players.

934
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, No, No, I mean, is Andrew Lichtenberger playing

935
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:51,960
poker again?

936
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

937
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:55,559
Speaker 1: I could not tell you what he's going to be doing.

938
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: They have Look, they have five of the they have

939
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,079
the five hull to him field bonus people right there

940
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,639
like a Brock. They got Georgia's, they a Cherish, they

941
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:07,280
got Lucky Chewi, they got Ian Steinman. They could hit

942
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,039
all five of those, could finish top twenty seven. In

943
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:13,079
the monster stack, sure like. I mean, their team's very

944
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:16,159
no limit holding base and obviously Dan Sepio being a

945
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:17,880
no limbit guy. That doesn't make a lot of sense

946
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,400
knowing those players better. But I like how they finished

947
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,960
the draft, to be honest, I don't like Ivy for

948
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:25,039
the ninety five or who knows how Ivy I just

949
00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:27,079
don't know when he's showing up.

950
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: I think I don't like Nacho for fifty nine.

951
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: I think that seems the right value, though, doesn't it.

952
00:42:33,519 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if i'd be willing

953
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,159
to pay that one. Moving on to Girl Dads, that's

954
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,199
Ryan Reese's team.

955
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 2: VI's of Ryan and Jesse's team, by the way, but.

956
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: Jesse's not here, but he's on fine, he's only yeah,

957
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,760
he's on the team for one dollars. This is they

958
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,360
always split the team, No, I know, Okay, so Jesse

959
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,159
Lonie hundred and three, Patrick Leonard thirty, David Funkouser twenty three,

960
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,639
Nick Papillo ten, Brad Owen twelve, Christian Roberts fifteen, A

961
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,559
Romozobian one Ethan yao. That's Rampage for one. I mean

962
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:05,519
this team, I got no idea what's going on here.

963
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:09,000
I'm a fan of David Funkauser as a pick. I'm

964
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,840
a fan of Patrick Leonard as a pick. I cannot

965
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:17,480
in a million years reconcile spending one hundred and three

966
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:19,920
dollars on Jesse Lonis. I mean, I know he's hotter

967
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,679
than ever right now. I love the guy. He's like

968
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,559
an og gangster type of player. I just what one

969
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,280
hundred and three? It seems a little, it seems outrageous,

970
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:33,760
like what is happening? But I guess would you say

971
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,400
that Pads was probably undervalued at thirty dollars? Yeah, so

972
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:39,119
then I think maybe if you put them together for

973
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,159
one thirty three, it's probably not hard if you look

974
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:42,920
at it, try and look at it that way. Yeah,

975
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,960
But like, can you take that one hundred dollars if

976
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,679
Pads is thirty and David Funkauser is twenty three, which

977
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,519
I like those prices for those players, you know, can

978
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:53,079
you take that one hundred dollars for Jesse Loonis and

979
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,239
you know, spin it into something else, Like, for example,

980
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,400
you could have spent sixty six dollars on Alex Foxen,

981
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:07,320
who is gonna play likely the same exact stuff as

982
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,320
Jesse Lonis maybe even a few more things and is

983
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,239
probably a little bit of a better player. And even

984
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,159
if he's not a better player, even if they're the

985
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,440
exact same player, you get essentially forty dollars to spend

986
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:24,960
elsewhere and you're not you know, taking Rampage and Aramzobian

987
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:27,239
and you know those picks.

988
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: Like you can basically get the Grondin for that price too.

989
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's just yeah, I can't I mean,

990
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,199
I can't imagine paying one all three for Jesse Lonis,

991
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,960
you know, but hey, it's it's his team, so whatever,

992
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:44,119
uh Frog poison, this is Martin Zemani's team. Got Scott

993
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:46,920
Sever for one to twenty five, Dylan Smith for sixty four.

994
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,599
I like those two picks. I think I will say

995
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:53,000
I'm a little burned by Scott sever but you know, whatever,

996
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:55,599
it is, what it is, Ryan Lang for six. And

997
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:58,280
then they rounded it out with a bunch of one

998
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,840
dollar players. They got Mike Holton for one dollar, Noel

999
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,599
Rodriguez for a dollar, George Woolf for a dollar, Sean

1000
00:45:04,679 --> 00:45:07,880
Troja for a dollar, and David Stam for what says

1001
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,480
zero but it's really a dollar, Like I mean, this

1002
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:14,199
is similar to our strategy Superstars and Scrubs, so I'm

1003
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,639
always going to really like that strategy. I think Dylan

1004
00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:21,880
Smith here is severely underpriced. It's sixty four dollars. I'm

1005
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:25,760
kind of surprised. I don't remember exactly what was going

1006
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,840
on with the team that Dylan Smith is a part

1007
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,760
of and why he wasn't in on himself, but sixty

1008
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,360
four dollars for Dylan Smith seems like an absolute freaking

1009
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,039
well he.

1010
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:35,639
Speaker 2: Was in on the bidding. I think he just got

1011
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:38,559
to a point where this is a little too too expensive.

1012
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:42,199
Speaker 1: But that's such a great price. I'd rather way rather

1013
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,239
have Dylan Smith for sixty four than Jesse Loans for

1014
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:44,760
one on three.

1015
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: I from memory, I think, you know, Martin didn't have

1016
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:53,800
too many people picked. I think Dylan seem already had

1017
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,440
a pretty strong base and maybe they just couldn't afford him. Yeah.

1018
00:45:56,559 --> 00:45:59,199
Speaker 1: Sure, you know, some of these one dollar players, I

1019
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,360
just kind of question volume. You know, I know Michael's

1020
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,239
will be there probably every single day, but how high

1021
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,079
is he gonna play?

1022
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:07,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1023
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: And online doesn't count, right, Yeah, online does not count.

1024
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,559
I don't know about Noel Rodriguez in terms of his volume.

1025
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:14,400
I don't really know about George Wolf in terms of

1026
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,920
his volume. Sean Troja is literally omaha only yeap. So

1027
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:21,679
you know, while that's good, he's obviously very good at that.

1028
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,039
I just I don't know. And then David Stam is

1029
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:26,159
kind of a flyer, but you know whatever, no big deal,

1030
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,039
survivor sweat. This is odib's team. They got Michael monsec

1031
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:34,360
that's Texas Mike for eighty nine, Ben Yu for thirty one,

1032
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,280
Marco Johnson for forty nine, Danny Tang twenty six, Sam

1033
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,400
Lasquitz for a dollar, Tyler Monsek, who is the brother

1034
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,599
of Michael Monsek, for a dollar, Ali Islami for a dollar,

1035
00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:50,239
and Esther Taylor for a dollar. So the first thing

1036
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,719
I want to talk about is this story that I

1037
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:59,039
talked with ODB afterwards. So he drafted Texas Mike, who

1038
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:03,639
is supposedly playing every single day as many frigging bullets

1039
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:09,239
as humanly possible. He basically told ODB, I think you know,

1040
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,639
I'm paraphrasing whatever, but that he would trade his first

1041
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,079
kid for winning Player.

1042
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,199
Speaker 2: Of the Year.

1043
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: So he's ready to Wow, He's ready to Then he

1044
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:23,440
said that that ODB should draft his brother, who like

1045
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:27,000
doesn't know how to play poker, but Texas Mike will

1046
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:30,519
teach him, and Texas Mike will put him in everything,

1047
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:34,159
possibly the two fifty K. What this I read the

1048
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:36,480
text messages. I'm sorry if I'm outing you, ODB. I

1049
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:38,119
know you talked about it on a story, but this

1050
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,480
this actually happened. He's like, he's extremely experienced, but he's

1051
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:45,559
the smartest person I know. I will teach him and

1052
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:48,320
I will put him in everything up to twenty five

1053
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,639
k's and it's likely that he might even see him

1054
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:52,559
in the two fifty K. I mean, what in the

1055
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:53,800
what is his kid on?

1056
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,119
Speaker 2: He cashed the five klass yea and that Paradise lost

1057
00:47:58,159 --> 00:47:59,920
yer cash in a ten KGGMI.

1058
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: So I mean this is this is an outrageous pick,

1059
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,559
a crazy story if it happens to come to fruition

1060
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:12,719
and works out for ODB. But holy lord, this is wild,

1061
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,920
Like it's just the wild how this comes together. Danny Tang,

1062
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:20,360
I know ODIB is somewhat close with I really like

1063
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,360
that pick. Danny Tang's one of those guys where I

1064
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,480
can never really get in touch with or you know,

1065
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,360
get a schedule on I know Odib. If you listen

1066
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,400
to Odb's pod that he has with Adam Schwartz, he

1067
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,679
has talked about how he's kind of close with Danny Tang.

1068
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,599
So if he's making that pick, I like it. Marco Johnson,

1069
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:36,039
I feel like it's one of those ones where I

1070
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,039
know Odib's close to him, So I guess I trust

1071
00:48:38,159 --> 00:48:40,880
him there. I just don't know me personally. And then

1072
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,519
Ben You, I mean, you're the guy who texted me

1073
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:44,000
the other day. What the heck has happened to Ben You?

1074
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,280
I haven't seen that guy a year, so I don't

1075
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,239
know is he playing? I mean, I guess so, yes, sir.

1076
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,280
So there's that team Team Australia. They went and got

1077
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:56,559
James Ops. They got David Odib Baker, they got James

1078
00:48:56,599 --> 00:48:59,559
Ops's ninety one, Baker was fifty one. They got Jerry

1079
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:03,400
Wong for nineteen, Brandon Shack Harris for thirty two, romayin

1080
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:06,719
Morvin for one dollar, did a garrant for a dollar,

1081
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,199
Ryan the Plant for a dollar, in the Mustapha Cannute

1082
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,320
for four dollars. I guess the one that sticks out

1083
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:17,000
to me is Brandon Jack Harris. If you're paying thirty

1084
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:18,840
two dollars for Brandon check Harris. I think you must

1085
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,360
know something like he's bad to be playing. Yeah, I

1086
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,199
mean that must be the thing, like or are you

1087
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,199
just looking at past results and going off of that.

1088
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,719
I don't know. Handsome horses. This was Benny Glasser's team,

1089
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,840
along with Patrick Leonard and Craig Chait. They got Chatty

1090
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,199
Sledge for eighty seven, Chino Reem for forty five, Matthew

1091
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,840
Wantman for twenty one, Chris Unikan aka Big Huni for fifteen,

1092
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,119
Phil Sternheimer for twenty one, Tomash Gluzzco for a dollar

1093
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,000
That has to be like a bit big guy as

1094
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:54,480
far as I'm concerned, Christopher Classan shout out, Spewey for

1095
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:57,719
two dollars, and then Lawrence Brandt for eight dollars. This

1096
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,800
the pick that sticks out to me that I would

1097
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,679
deem highly questionable is Philip Sternheimer for twenty one. I mean,

1098
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,519
I guess he's first of all, it was weird that

1099
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:09,079
he wasn't here. He normally has a team.

1100
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:11,079
Speaker 2: Maybe he was still a tryton, that would be my

1101
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:14,199
only guess, so, but he usually still as a team. Yeah,

1102
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:15,880
So I thought that that was it.

1103
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: That was interesting, and he normally doesn't play a lot

1104
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,079
of the tournaments, plays like some of the big stuff.

1105
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll play. No. Last year he played a lot,

1106
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,119
but like he also dropped pretty sure he drofted himself

1107
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:26,559
lost year.

1108
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Team Liaison that was Andrew Ostopchenko's team. He

1109
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,400
drafted Yuri Zeveleski for one nineteen, David Coleman for seven dollars,

1110
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,000
John Manette for nineteen, Dario Alioto stole them from us,

1111
00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:44,239
come on Man twenty five dollars, Thomas Taylor seven dollars,

1112
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,840
Samuel Muller for a dollar, Clemens Reuter for nine dollars,

1113
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,280
and then Andrew got himself Andrew Ostopchenko for one dollar.

1114
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,599
I don't know how I feel about this team. I

1115
00:50:56,639 --> 00:50:59,920
feel like they probably could have the John Manette pick

1116
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:03,400
I think questionable. John Manett is extremely good, but he

1117
00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:06,840
put out there, you know, a tweet that is kind

1118
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,840
of questioning what sort of volume that he's gonna play,

1119
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,840
and see he's gonna stick to cash games. So I

1120
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,639
would be a little bit iffy there. And if you

1121
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,519
could ultimately like use that nineteen to turn it into

1122
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:21,039
somebody else, I don't necessarily know IM I'd have to

1123
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:22,679
dig a little bit further, but that's kind of the

1124
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,679
first thing that sticks out to me. The Hoggers. That

1125
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,639
was Dylan Smith, Chatty Sledge, that Florida group. They got

1126
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,639
Aaron Coopan who was over there with them at the

1127
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:35,400
table for forty two, Jake Schwartz for thirty one, Matt

1128
00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:38,079
Lance for thirty five, Brian un for thirty four, Jason

1129
00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:43,320
Mercier for forty one. That seems wild, Robert Wells for ten,

1130
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,400
Danny Wong for six, and David Bennumin for one. This

1131
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,519
is my least favorite type of build in the entire thing.

1132
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:52,239
I hate when you just go like a bunch of

1133
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,880
like thirty to forty dollars players. I hate it personally.

1134
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:57,559
Speaker 2: It's a pretty good thirty to forty dollar players. Though.

1135
00:51:58,199 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: Is Jason Rizyr playing tournaments?

1136
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,039
Speaker 2: I feel like if anyone's going to draft him and

1137
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,400
spend money and it's the Florida guys, that means something.

1138
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:05,719
That's the way I see that.

1139
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean yes and no. I mean I have no idea,

1140
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:11,480
but I mean if.

1141
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,039
Speaker 2: Anyone knows I was sitting in that room, I feel

1142
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:16,599
like they probably have the most clue about Jason.

1143
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's that's interesting. I mean, maybe it is.

1144
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: David Benjamin for a dollar. I'm not so sure about

1145
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,920
that one. Like, yeah, they could have got a lot

1146
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,119
of other dollar players, but I think they were. You

1147
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,840
know what, actually Dylan Smith said and this Dylan Smith

1148
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,239
was going to say Nick Milgram. He said Nick Milgram

1149
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,199
one dollar, and he goes, well, actually David Benjamin one dollar.

1150
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go.

1151
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: So they could have Nick Milgram and that would have

1152
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:42,400
been very good. You know, they might not have got

1153
00:52:42,519 --> 00:52:44,440
Nick for a dollar, but they would have That would

1154
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,280
have been a very very good mixed game team that

1155
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,360
this is all mixed games.

1156
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, team Norri Norri drafting with Toby Lewis,

1157
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:56,400
they got Alex Livingston for eighty one. Also not in

1158
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,119
the room who has been in the room in the past,

1159
00:52:58,199 --> 00:53:01,679
Alex Livingston justin slieb or forty those two, I believe

1160
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,400
our roommates during the Dibisipede. Jim Collapy for forty three,

1161
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:09,599
Maxim piece Aranco for twelve, Noah Bronstein for a dollar,

1162
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,280
Toby Lewis for a dollar, Gus Hansen for two dollars

1163
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,360
might be the surprise pick of the draft and then

1164
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,679
bow Ding for nine dollars. Baw Ding could come back

1165
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,480
to haunt Mickey and I, so ren Lynn had eight

1166
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:28,320
dollars remaining and bid eight on bow Ding. Now, I

1167
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,760
had been telling Mickey through my research, like this guy crushes,

1168
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:35,079
he crushes everything. It's just a matter of I have

1169
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,360
no idea if he's coming or not. So it's basically

1170
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,719
like if Reren throws him out there, then we know

1171
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,880
he's gonna be here. Yeah, and Ren threw him out

1172
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,639
there there for eight dollars. We had nine, and Mickey

1173
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:48,559
and I were like literally in the tank talking back

1174
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:50,119
and forth, and then the next thing, you know, Toby

1175
00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:50,880
Lewis said nine.

1176
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 2: He looked at nine.

1177
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: Max, Well he said nine. So we had nine Max,

1178
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,840
so we couldn't go tank, but we were thinking about

1179
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,639
going night. Now that's not to say that teen noy

1180
00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:03,000
would done ten, yeah, but that we kind of got

1181
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:04,199
caught up there. We were like should we do it?

1182
00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:06,280
Should we not? Like what are we gonna do? Because

1183
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,719
we still didn't yet have our team filled out. We

1184
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,800
didn't have Milgrim, we didn't have Reichenstein, So we were like, well,

1185
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,800
should we do it? Should we not? You know, whatever

1186
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,880
it does seem like he's coming if friend's throwing him

1187
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,639
out there, so yeah, so that might come back to

1188
00:54:18,159 --> 00:54:21,239
bite us in the end. The Gus Hansen one is

1189
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:27,880
an interesting pick because he was thrown out by somebody

1190
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,679
on the other side of the room. I forget who

1191
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,360
it might have been. Oh, it was the Hoggers. They

1192
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,760
threw him out because this is where you skipped I

1193
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,039
skipped one. And then anyway, they throw out him and

1194
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:43,000
then Daniel like jumps out of his seat. He's like

1195
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,760
what huh. And the way that it sounded from Daniel,

1196
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,000
who I think only had one dollar left to max

1197
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:51,639
bit on a player like had talked to Gus that

1198
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,519
he's playing, and he was basically saying to them across

1199
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:56,559
the room like, oh, did you talk to him? And

1200
00:54:56,639 --> 00:54:59,559
Jake Schwartz is like basically like nodding like yes, And

1201
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:01,320
then I think I think Toby got word of that.

1202
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:03,639
I saw that it was like okay, two dollars and

1203
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,239
then he got him. So you know that's how that went.

1204
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,800
Toby also drafted himself because he I mean, I trust

1205
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,679
what he said. He said, Well, we don't know any

1206
00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:15,360
other players left, so I'm drafting myself. Well what am

1207
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,840
I gonna do. So that's that team Team Splashy Occupy.

1208
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,639
We hit on this a little bit earlier. They got

1209
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,920
John Reudin for fifty four, They got John Raisner for

1210
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,440
fifty four, They got Roberts and Ms Rocky for forty.

1211
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:25,119
Speaker 2: I like that pick.

1212
00:55:25,159 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: They got Eric Saidel for fifteen, Ray Hanson for three,

1213
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:31,079
Mike Gordinski for six, Mike Leah for three, Eric Baldwin

1214
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:32,880
for five. Tim and I had already hit on this team,

1215
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,760
so we'll skip past that one. We already talked about

1216
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,960
Daniel Lagarnage team and we did hear from him, so

1217
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:40,440
we'll skip past that one as well. We'll move to

1218
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,880
Eric Wasserson's team. So Eric Wasserson got himself for forty

1219
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,119
two dollars. He got Brian Rast fifty seven, Paul Volpi

1220
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,079
for fourteen, John Hennigan for eleven, David Peters for three,

1221
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:53,599
Darius Sammartino for fifteen, Sewn Winter for twenty two, and

1222
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,199
re renon Brushki for thirty six.

1223
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: A plus team.

1224
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: So this is this is the tam This is probably

1225
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,639
number one in A plus team if you were to

1226
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,559
grde it today based on skill, and that's that. But

1227
00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:14,039
for me, it just comes down to volume, like how

1228
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,880
much of these guys are gonna play? I have no idea,

1229
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:20,519
so that's kind of the tricky thing there. I guess

1230
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,639
price per dollar for like what, or so I should

1231
00:56:24,639 --> 00:56:27,519
say like tournaments per dollar, you know, for what I

1232
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:29,239
think they're gonna play. Also, how big I think they're

1233
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,639
gonna play. I like the David Peters pick at three

1234
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,400
dollars for them. I think that's a really good one,

1235
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,000
you know. I think obviously DPT's had the baby a

1236
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:40,440
long time ago, so you know, now it's more like

1237
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:42,079
kind of back to the grind type of stuff, and

1238
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:44,880
he's just an incredible player. So I really like him,

1239
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,079
especially when you get someone who's gonna play all those

1240
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:48,239
super high by and stuff.

1241
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,679
Speaker 2: I mainly like this team because you're not gonna find

1242
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,719
them in any other tournament at any other location. Now. Yeah, look,

1243
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,000
the cash games may be pretty juicy, and they may

1244
00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:00,239
be in those, but when it comes to tournaments, they're

1245
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,480
gonna play all the big stuff. At the World Series

1246
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:05,440
Mixed Game, they're gonna play all the ten k's to

1247
00:57:05,559 --> 00:57:07,920
play the fifty k, they're gonna play the twenty five

1248
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,679
k horse, We're gonna play all of those ones, and

1249
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:13,559
you know, you look at these guys. Brian Rass obviously

1250
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:16,840
cares a lot about legacy. I think John Hennigan secretly

1251
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,639
does to Paul Volpi's, you know, right on that cusp

1252
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,599
of breaking into you know, having four or five six

1253
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:25,639
kind of bracelets. And then obviously Washerson got his bracelet

1254
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,960
at Paradise, so he might be itching to join some

1255
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:31,719
of his some of his peers. So that's why I

1256
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,920
like this team mainly because it's very WSP heavy and

1257
00:57:35,239 --> 00:57:36,400
buying wise, very big.

1258
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: I just don't know about Darria Sam Martino in terms

1259
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,599
of volume. That would be my question there. Eric Washerson

1260
00:57:41,679 --> 00:57:45,039
was kind of an ego pick, remember, he like got

1261
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:47,000
hundred percent got in on himself late and was.

1262
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: Like, that's why I think. I think he's gonna make

1263
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,960
some side bets and he might sure play big even

1264
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,400
more than than I know.

1265
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,719
Speaker 1: You bring up the legacy thing with Brian Rast. My

1266
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,960
only concern there, Like we talked about Rast, Mickey and

1267
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,239
I and we think that he's an incredible player. He's really,

1268
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,239
really good. It's just that he has already ticked the

1269
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,400
box that he was going for, which is getting into

1270
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,599
the Poker Hall of Fame. So does he kind of,

1271
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:12,480
you know, just pull things back a little bit in

1272
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:15,199
terms of like going balls to the wall like he

1273
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,000
was when it was ahead of getting into the Poker

1274
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:20,159
Hall of Fame. So that would be my concern there,

1275
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,840
and I just don't know, So, you know, we just

1276
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:32,679
you know, avoided that one. Moving on to Team BTG,

1277
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:35,719
I believe that stands for beyond the Game. This team

1278
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,280
is drafted by Bryce Jockey and Chris Brewer. They got

1279
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,719
Nick Waghenti for thirty eight, Dan Zach for thirteen, Stephen

1280
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,679
Chadwick for fifty one. He's their most expensive player. Adam

1281
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:49,599
Friedman for eighteen, Dylan Lindy for thirty six, Puna Punsrie

1282
00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:53,199
for nineteen, Isaac Hackson for six, and owaysam Meed for nineteen.

1283
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,639
I think that nineteen on owaysa med was just an

1284
00:58:55,679 --> 00:58:59,079
all in play at the end. Not sure how I

1285
00:58:59,119 --> 00:58:59,840
feel about this one.

1286
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: I don't mind how they started until they got to

1287
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,480
put up Punsri. I'm not sure how much Punat will play.

1288
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,599
You know, same with Isaac and then same with Oays.

1289
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,280
But technically you could say Oays is a dull player,

1290
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,199
so that's fine, but not I think maybe for nineteen

1291
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:19,159
dollars they could have found someone, you know, maybe with

1292
00:59:19,239 --> 00:59:21,039
a you know, they could have got a Phelipe Ramos

1293
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,360
who would have preferred much more of a put up Punsri.

1294
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,719
But who knows. I think they started well, they've got

1295
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:29,159
some guys that are going to play like all the mix,

1296
00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:31,440
all the big stuff up to the fifty k Steven

1297
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,960
Shiitweks obviously they're the big no Olympic guy that might

1298
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:37,320
be in all those events on the two fifty, so

1299
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:39,840
we'll see. I don't hate this team at all.

1300
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:42,519
Speaker 1: I mean, my question would be on dan Zach him

1301
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:44,960
going for thirteen. It just feels like people in that

1302
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:48,599
room have an idea maybe he's not lasting super super

1303
00:59:48,679 --> 00:59:50,719
hard these days, so that would just be kind of

1304
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,679
my my concern there. Splash Sports this was formerly Team

1305
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,599
No Gamble in the Future, drafted by Jeff Platt and

1306
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,360
Brent Hanks. They got Nick Schol first off the board

1307
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,920
for one hundred and seven dollars. They got Renlin for

1308
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,360
forty two. They got Adrian Mittaos for twenty five, Renji

1309
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,239
Mao aka Ricky Mao for nine, Frank Brannon for five,

1310
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:14,519
Jason Kuhn for four, Christian Harder for seven, and Andrew

1311
01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:19,559
Marino for one. Love the Nick Shulman pick. Don't totally

1312
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:23,760
hate the ren Lin pick. Adrian Matteos, I mean Adrian

1313
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,320
Mitaos for twenty five when Jesse Lonis is going for

1314
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,159
one oh three is a great pick. I feel like

1315
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,559
Renji mao. I know Mickey and I had him on

1316
01:00:30,599 --> 01:00:32,599
our list, so I don't hate that pick as well.

1317
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,199
Frank Brannon, I know who this is. I have no

1318
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,800
idea what sort of schedule or what he's doing, so

1319
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,599
I just have kind of questions there. We did have

1320
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,440
Jason Kuon at the kind of the bottom of our

1321
01:00:43,519 --> 01:00:45,440
high Rolder list. We did speak with him. He said,

1322
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,480
you know, twenty five K plus. I mean, I guess

1323
01:00:47,519 --> 01:00:50,320
it's it's fine, You're just not going to get the volume.

1324
01:00:50,599 --> 01:00:52,840
Kun is an incredible player. Again, You're just not going

1325
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,960
to get that volume. Christian Harder, I like this pick,

1326
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,840
and then Andrew Moreno. It just kind of comes down

1327
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,199
to how often is he going to be ap type

1328
01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:03,079
of stuff? Is he going to be venue hopping, playing

1329
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:06,039
the Venetian, playing win this type of stuff? But I get,

1330
01:01:06,159 --> 01:01:08,760
you know, a one dollar flyer on Morenos is not

1331
01:01:09,239 --> 01:01:12,840
not a bad thing at all. AJ's Eagles. That's AJ

1332
01:01:13,039 --> 01:01:17,159
Kelsol's team. We got Max Coleman for seventy, Justin Liberto

1333
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,920
for thirty five, Arthur Morris for thirty eight. AJ drafted

1334
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:24,760
himself for twenty one, Carrie Katz for fourteen, King Callous

1335
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:29,280
for thirteen, Brian Hastings for a buck, and Martin Zemani

1336
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,360
for two dollars. An interesting team.

1337
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 2: Love Hastings for a dollar. I think Max Coleman might

1338
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,440
be overprized because you know, he hasn't been playing a

1339
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:42,679
full schedule oft PGT events like he used to now.

1340
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,280
Obviously he loves the mixed game stuff he always plays

1341
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:47,639
use but he used to always play the p Loo

1342
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:50,519
and the No Limit, but he's definitely dialed it down recently,

1343
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,280
so I'm not sure you know what that means for

1344
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,639
him when it comes to World Series. So that's the

1345
01:01:55,719 --> 01:01:59,559
only pick I don't love at the Mars. I'm sure

1346
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:04,239
that's you know, about in line with his schedule, you know.

1347
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:07,079
I think hay Stings Dalla. I think Carrie, you know,

1348
01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:10,239
we talk sometimes, we talk a little bit of negative

1349
01:02:10,239 --> 01:02:11,960
about Kerry, but when it comes to the World Series,

1350
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,320
I think we'll find him max Lay registering all the

1351
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,960
ten k's and all the high rollers, so at least

1352
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,559
he'll be putting in the volume and then say what

1353
01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:22,119
you want to say about skill level or how much

1354
01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:24,159
else he's going to play. But I don't think. I

1355
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:26,480
don't think fourteen if Dan didn't Dan Shack go for

1356
01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:31,039
ten dollars, I think that's you know, about how'd Raley carry?

1357
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:31,920
I think over Nan Shak.

1358
01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if Kerry's going to put in the volume,

1359
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,599
that's the question with him. If he's going to put

1360
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:37,000
in the volume, if he's going to be firing all

1361
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:39,760
those you know, ten k plus events, probably even five

1362
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,480
K plus events, it doesn't matter if they're max Lay

1363
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:45,239
reg then, and yeah, fourteen dollars is not a bad.

1364
01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: For someone that lost their fantasy sports. I'm actually very

1365
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,760
surprised we don't carry doesn't get a team in this,

1366
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:51,039
you know.

1367
01:02:51,199 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. And I will also say that, you know,

1368
01:02:55,159 --> 01:02:58,440
Carrie wants to win a brace like and that's I

1369
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:02,239
think in terms of like waking up every day, going

1370
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,840
back out there and battling. That's a good thing to

1371
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,400
have as a trait, you know, because you're you're still

1372
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,960
chasing essentially, what is a Poker Players Championship title, and

1373
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,360
that is a gold bracelet. Team Lady Gaga, that's ren

1374
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,599
Lyn's team. They got Adam Hendricks for thirty three, Alex

1375
01:03:18,719 --> 01:03:22,719
Foxen for sixty six, Jo Vieira for eighty five, Anson

1376
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,760
Sang for a dollar, Kwan Zhao for a dollar, Jijiang

1377
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:29,840
Luau for five dollars, Dong Chen for a dollar, and

1378
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,559
then Joshua McCully for two dollars. I have no idea

1379
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,199
who Joshua McCully is. No offense is Australian as well.

1380
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:40,679
Dong Chen obviously has been drafted before. Kwan Zau scores

1381
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,760
very well. Anson Sang is another Asian player that they're on.

1382
01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:46,800
Of course, you know that they do the whole like

1383
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,760
kind of stars and scrubs and then bring all these

1384
01:03:49,199 --> 01:03:51,920
Asian players as you know, because they write down their

1385
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,920
names and pass them to you when they're nominating them. So, yeah,

1386
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,440
this is the team we were going head to head

1387
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,280
with over Jeremy Osmas. I don't mind ren straategy. I

1388
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,599
think he takes a very similar strategy to Hours. So

1389
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,599
when it is ultimately Wren going to battle with our

1390
01:04:06,719 --> 01:04:09,960
team on who we deem as the top guy. You know,

1391
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,840
it kind of gives me some confidence in that we're

1392
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,039
on the top guy together. You know, I would love

1393
01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:16,920
to not have to pay one hundred and forty one dollars.

1394
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,320
Maybe we get a little bit of a break, but

1395
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,960
it is what it is. And uh yeah, the Jeremis

1396
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,960
that was Jeremy Becker's team and another Jeremy. But I

1397
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,840
don't know the other Jeremy Hakeem.

1398
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: Is that anything.

1399
01:04:28,719 --> 01:04:30,519
Speaker 1: I could not tell you. I know he's like got

1400
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:33,519
a lot of buzz on social media and whatnot. Forgive

1401
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:36,360
me for not knowing who you are. But josh Aria

1402
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,039
seventy one, Bryce Jockey sixty six, Jeremy Becker took himself

1403
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:42,039
for two dollars. He was thrown out there for a dollar.

1404
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,039
Jeremi Becker said, no two to me. Let's go ying

1405
01:04:46,159 --> 01:04:49,199
Wee Lee for three dollars, Archur march Rosin for twenty eight,

1406
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,760
Dmitriybanovitch for twenty one, David bakes Baker for five dollars,

1407
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,679
and Elis parson In for a dollar. The Elis one

1408
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,480
is highly questionable to me. I know there's a fair

1409
01:05:00,519 --> 01:05:02,760
amount of plo. I know there's a lot of high

1410
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,920
stakes plo just questionable to.

1411
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,239
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah, very questionable. You know, when will he get here?

1412
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,079
He does play a bit of hold him, you know

1413
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,039
in the Trent events, but will he do that here?

1414
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:15,960
But I think elis for a dollar versus Auta for

1415
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:19,360
twenty eight. You know, the Alto is the same where

1416
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,880
he's kind of a no limit hold him specialist. Does

1417
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,239
play some plo, but he is a high roller guy,

1418
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,400
and a high roller guy for twenty eight when his

1419
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:29,039
volume is going to be I would say on the

1420
01:05:29,079 --> 01:05:32,599
lower side is probably a little a little too pricey,

1421
01:05:32,679 --> 01:05:38,280
but otherwise really don't mind much of how the other

1422
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:38,960
team is built.

1423
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: Money. Mondays that is Dan Fleischman's team. He got his

1424
01:05:43,079 --> 01:05:45,800
patented phil Holm youth seventy nine dollars, Calvin Anderson for

1425
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:50,039
fifty one. Mickey and I were he was in our plans,

1426
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,840
was Calvin Anderson. But as we spoke to Calvin Anderson,

1427
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,039
I believe he said he capped himself at forty dollars,

1428
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,360
but obviously goes for fifty one here. Ryan Rees for eleven,

1429
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,880
Kristin far for thirty one, Jared Blessnick for six, Joe

1430
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,639
Katta for a buck, Dan Smith for six, and then

1431
01:06:05,679 --> 01:06:09,599
Ben Lamb for fifteen. Yeah, I mean this is an

1432
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,280
interesting team. I mean it really depends on Phil Hellmuth.

1433
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,239
You know, he's got to carry things. Is he gonna

1434
01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:17,800
take days off? Is he gonna be battling every single

1435
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,719
day or is he gonna be like, I'm a little

1436
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,679
bit too tired. I'm gonna go do whatever. So that's questionable.

1437
01:06:24,239 --> 01:06:26,360
Cal is kind of an enigma. You know, if he

1438
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,440
shows up every single day, he's obviously one of the

1439
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,199
best players out there. It's just a question if he's

1440
01:06:31,199 --> 01:06:33,719
going to show up every single day. Jared Blesnik did

1441
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,480
share on social media he doesn't know how much he's

1442
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,599
gonna play, So who knows with him? Who knows if

1443
01:06:38,639 --> 01:06:41,039
that was him just kind of putting that out there.

1444
01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:42,719
Who knows if he is actually going to be super

1445
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,119
busy and not gonna be able to play a lot.

1446
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,320
I could not tell you what Jared Blesnik is gonna do.

1447
01:06:46,719 --> 01:06:48,639
If Jared Wilsnink does show up and play a good

1448
01:06:48,679 --> 01:06:51,360
handful of events, then you know, yeah, he's probably worth

1449
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,719
six bucks. And then the last team Team Brown. That

1450
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,119
was Andrew Brown and you've all Bronstein's team they got

1451
01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:01,679
You've all for forty four dollars. They got Phil Hue

1452
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,679
for thirty dollars. They got Joe Cooden for fourteen, Jeff

1453
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:08,559
Madsen for eleven, Philipe Ramos for eighteen, Andrew Brown got

1454
01:07:08,639 --> 01:07:11,840
himself for two dollars, Scott Bowman for nine, and Matt

1455
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,360
Vangrin for nine, and they were left with sixty three

1456
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,840
dollars on the table, which seems like a freaking absurdity.

1457
01:07:18,039 --> 01:07:20,360
I don't know what this team is doing leaving sixty

1458
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,320
three dollars on the table, but here we are.

1459
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't hate that team. I just I don't really

1460
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,599
like the scup Almond pick because you never know how

1461
01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:28,400
much SCUP ballmost.

1462
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:29,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we kind of talked with him.

1463
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,599
Speaker 2: I liked everything else. I don't think he's a he's

1464
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,000
necessarily a good pick. Phelipe Ramos for eighteen dollars seems

1465
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,880
like a bit of his. I mean, wads is thirty.

1466
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,000
I feel like Philippe for eighteen is decent. Yeah, I

1467
01:07:41,079 --> 01:07:43,760
mean we spoke with Philip, we got an idea of

1468
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,840
his schedule. We we nominated him, right, we nominated Filipe. Yeah,

1469
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,679
So I mean we were priced out to go to eighteen.

1470
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,320
But yeah, I know, I know Chad Holloway from Poker News,

1471
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,039
you know, our friend is big on Jeff Madson. He

1472
01:07:58,119 --> 01:08:00,920
kept telling us to draft Jeff Madson. So I don't

1473
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,039
know if Jeff Madisen is gonna show up and play

1474
01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:06,320
everything a series of pokm maybe for Jeff Madison. Yeah,

1475
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:11,880
the problem with with Brown Dog's team is that he

1476
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,920
started very late. He didn't have anyone on his team

1477
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,319
for quite a while, and I think that kind of

1478
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:19,079
threw out all the strategy. Well whether he had a

1479
01:08:19,119 --> 01:08:21,000
strategy or not is a different thing, but you know,

1480
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,279
he dropped juve all very light, so he was kind

1481
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:26,880
of left with you know, didn't have much of the

1482
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,720
stars left. So he did have to build an interesting team,

1483
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,520
I would say, but I don't think it's horrible. Like,

1484
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,359
you know, Andrew Brown could be playing all the mixed

1485
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:35,640
games saying with Scott Balman, and.

1486
01:08:36,039 --> 01:08:39,279
Speaker 1: Brown said after he picked himself, he like kind of

1487
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:41,439
blurted out, not super loud, but said like, I'm playing

1488
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,000
foreigner came by ins. So I mean, who knows if

1489
01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:46,880
that's true or not. That could also be one of

1490
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,439
those things where yeah, you have foreigner came by ins

1491
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,960
on paper, are you actually ever gonna fully play foreigner

1492
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,159
Camby ins? I mean maybe if you bust everything on

1493
01:08:54,279 --> 01:08:57,520
day one, it can happen, yes, but it's probably likely

1494
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,560
not to get to that that amount. So yeah, I

1495
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,439
mean interesting team. I just I don't agree with not

1496
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,760
trying to spend every single dollar because you know, if

1497
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,600
you left sixty three dollars on the table, like you

1498
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,439
obviously could have spent on a lot of other players.

1499
01:09:12,039 --> 01:09:14,560
You know, Jeff Madson, for example, could have been Dylan Smith.

1500
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,000
You know, fully Bramos could have been Dying Smith. Joekuton

1501
01:09:18,039 --> 01:09:19,600
could have been doing so like stuff like that, right,

1502
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,840
you know, any of them could have been Alex Foxon

1503
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,319
for example. So you have a lot of those things

1504
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:27,920
that you're probably leaving yourself scratching your head afterwards. You know.

1505
01:09:28,119 --> 01:09:29,800
I think last year we were left with a good

1506
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,760
chunk of money at the end, just with the way

1507
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,000
that things shook out, and we hated it. You know,

1508
01:09:36,039 --> 01:09:37,600
I think we were left with like twenty bucks or something.

1509
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,399
We were just like what the hell, like, you know,

1510
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,159
with the way that things kind of broke. It just

1511
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,359
didn't work out in our favor that way last year.

1512
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,279
This year, that we did share to maneuver correctly at

1513
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:49,520
the end of the draft so that we could maximize

1514
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:59,920
every single dollar. All right, you got any like top

1515
01:10:00,039 --> 01:10:03,039
two or three favorite teams who sticks out? Now, you

1516
01:10:03,079 --> 01:10:04,840
don't need to name us, I got it. You don't

1517
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:05,600
got to play favorites.

1518
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,119
Speaker 2: No, I do like your team. Like I said, I

1519
01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:11,319
do like Wasas's team because it's very world Series centric.

1520
01:10:12,399 --> 01:10:16,000
I do like Negrano's and I'm mainly because you know,

1521
01:10:16,119 --> 01:10:17,800
there's maybe a chance, you know, he's got a couple

1522
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,279
of friends on his team, maybe he clips a couple

1523
01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:22,760
of little bankroll boosters to get them in some events

1524
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,800
they might not have played. So that's pretty That's kind

1525
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,359
of the thing that stands out to me. Those three teams.

1526
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,680
I do like gren Lin's team, Lady Gaga with the

1527
01:10:34,039 --> 01:10:37,039
the fellow Chinese players that people won't know or recognize.

1528
01:10:37,039 --> 01:10:39,600
But obviously, if you're in poker and see these results

1529
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,239
and follow along, you know that obviously Anson Tean multi

1530
01:10:42,279 --> 01:10:46,079
bracelet winner, Kwanzu, and Dung Jit, they all had a

1531
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:49,279
huge World Series last year, so wouldn't be surprised if

1532
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,720
you know, they did pretty well. And I just received,

1533
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:56,039
you know, text message from Lady Gaga's drafting teammate Adam

1534
01:10:56,079 --> 01:10:59,920
Hendrix asking, do you know, like who these the king?

1535
01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:01,840
Tell me who the team's are, like, who's behind the

1536
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,680
team names? Wren wants to make side bets, So Reren's

1537
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,880
probably very confident on his team, even though he's not

1538
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,199
on it. And yeah, I think those are the kind

1539
01:11:10,199 --> 01:11:14,279
of four teams that I would be, you know, eyeing

1540
01:11:14,319 --> 01:11:15,239
as being the favorites.

1541
01:11:15,239 --> 01:11:18,319
Speaker 1: I think I'm in love with our team. I feel

1542
01:11:18,359 --> 01:11:21,399
like this is probably the best I've felt coming out

1543
01:11:21,399 --> 01:11:24,840
of a draft, and it's probably because everyone that we drafted,

1544
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:29,159
all eight of the players were on our lists. Yeah,

1545
01:11:29,319 --> 01:11:31,680
and you know, sometimes I didn't get that very often. Yeah,

1546
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,840
sometimes you just kind of get stuck. Maybe you don't

1547
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,840
have enough money, or people are going for too much

1548
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,840
where you kind of projected them, or things don't break

1549
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,720
a certain way. You know. For us, it was very

1550
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,359
it was it was kind of key how we navigated

1551
01:11:43,399 --> 01:11:45,039
the first part of the draft because we wanted to

1552
01:11:45,079 --> 01:11:47,600
get Ozma's first and we wanted to go for Reared

1553
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,800
in second. Now, if there was a world like last

1554
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,479
year where somebody threw out John Reard and I think third,

1555
01:11:55,359 --> 01:11:58,359
then I mean we really wanted Ozmas and John Reard,

1556
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,800
but if there was a chance that let's say weird

1557
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,079
and got nominated first, it kind of screws up our

1558
01:12:03,159 --> 01:12:06,279
whole strategy. So, I mean, it's luck the fact that

1559
01:12:06,399 --> 01:12:08,479
when I drew a card we got to nominate third.

1560
01:12:09,279 --> 01:12:10,840
So we were like, Okay, this is great, we can

1561
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,880
nominate early. If Osmas gets nominated in the first two bicks,

1562
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,039
we'll just grab him or we'll throw him out there,

1563
01:12:16,079 --> 01:12:18,399
and then we'll ultimately get him, no big deal, and

1564
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,039
then we'll try and get rid and then we'll go

1565
01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:20,479
from there.

1566
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: What did you think of I guess the one thing

1567
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,039
that shocked me when it comes to like the individuals

1568
01:12:25,119 --> 01:12:27,439
was shown Dabey I think going for ninety nine dollars

1569
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,680
when Nigrano is a you know, one away Osmas won

1570
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,760
forty one, you know jesse Wan tre Wan twenty five,

1571
01:12:36,079 --> 01:12:37,800
shown Dave not playing a full series.

1572
01:12:38,279 --> 01:12:42,399
Speaker 1: I just think people kind of sour on people for

1573
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:43,119
whatever reason.

1574
01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 2: Interesting.

1575
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,159
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily anything. I mean, it's also

1576
01:12:47,319 --> 01:12:51,319
like when did deeb get thrown out? Did certain people

1577
01:12:51,359 --> 01:12:54,279
who would have been high on him, Like basically there

1578
01:12:54,359 --> 01:12:56,439
was a world where let's say we don't get Jeremy Osmas.

1579
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,079
Now I think it was a small world. Yes, but

1580
01:12:58,199 --> 01:13:01,880
let's say some crazy thing happens. We're one and Renland

1581
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,399
says one ninety three. I mean our second pick was Deep, right,

1582
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,239
So it's like, okay, then if we're in on the

1583
01:13:08,279 --> 01:13:10,439
bidding on Deep, is he more one hundred and thirty

1584
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,439
one hundred and forty right, because we're just willing to bid,

1585
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,680
bid bid that type of thing. So it also kind

1586
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,920
of goes down to like who's bidding on who and

1587
01:13:17,039 --> 01:13:19,199
how they feel about it, and that's just how things

1588
01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:22,039
kind of shake out. I just think it's all kind

1589
01:13:22,079 --> 01:13:25,159
of interesting. But I mean, I love it again. I

1590
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,560
love our team, you know. I love that we got

1591
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,880
Ozma's you know, I think he's the the one in

1592
01:13:31,119 --> 01:13:33,359
the one to one, you know, on a draft board.

1593
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,279
So we just need him to run hotter than the sun.

1594
01:13:36,359 --> 01:13:38,479
So basically run like Jeremy Osmas and we'll be will

1595
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,560
be good to go. Another thing that Mickey and I

1596
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,600
are big on, we're big on mental game, like and

1597
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,199
Jeremy Ausines is a great example. I don't care how

1598
01:13:47,239 --> 01:13:49,239
bad Jeremy Ausins runs the summer. He's gonna show up

1599
01:13:49,239 --> 01:13:51,399
every single day. Yeah, probably have a smile on his face,

1600
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,920
probably ask me how I'm doing. We might talk about

1601
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,800
our kids, whatever, and he's gonna go in there and

1602
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,000
he's gonna blast, and it just doesn't matter. You know,

1603
01:13:58,119 --> 01:14:01,279
some players you kind of tend to avoid, at least

1604
01:14:01,319 --> 01:14:03,119
we tend to avoid because you just don't know if

1605
01:14:03,119 --> 01:14:04,720
they're gonna be like I need a few days off.

1606
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,920
You know, Oh, I'm kind of sulking. Oh, listen to

1607
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,840
this bad beat whatever is. You know, like, no, I

1608
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,760
don't want any of that negative energy around this. You know,

1609
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,399
we want all the positive energy stuff. So you know,

1610
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,640
I think we got plenty of that on our squad.

1611
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,640
All right, cool, well, I think that's going to do

1612
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:21,720
it for us. It's still code work.

1613
01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 2: I had to listen to Auso about a code wether

1614
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:28,520
no code work this week.

1615
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,119
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well you're the code work guys.

1616
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 2: You got to remind so one's very easy. You ready

1617
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,760
for this? Yeah, it's going to be twenty five K

1618
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,560
fantasy love to the number two, number five K fantasy.

1619
01:14:40,279 --> 01:14:42,520
We'll keep that up for a couple of days. Make

1620
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,079
sure you and try and win. You know, we wanted

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to put someone where we outputing someone in the pg

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tam Million Dollar Championship. We want it to be a listener.

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We want the listener to win the PGT Championship and

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lift that trophy. Nice and hire representing the podcast. We'll

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have new one if we record every day, I would say,

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you know, maybe every three or four days, we'll have

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ANU on.

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Speaker 1: I think's yeah, all right, cool. So you guys heard

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the code word there from Tim. As a reminder, if

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you guys want to follow the twenty five K Fantasy League,

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head on over to twenty five K fantasy dot com.

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If you do want to possibly dive into the ODB

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Fantasy League, you can find the information on twenty five

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K fantasy dot com. Right at the top. There is

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an ODB Fantasy menu item you can click that you

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can find out more about it. So let's have a

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good summer everyone. It is officially day one of the

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World Series of Poker. Here we combined it with the

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twenty five K Fantasy Draft. Tomorrow, Tim and I will

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be at Horseshoe. We will be at Paris. We will

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be in the thick of things. I cannot wait to

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see how it goes. I have seen a lot of

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kind of mixed reviews on the registration and the WSP

1644
01:15:51,279 --> 01:15:54,079
plus app stuff. So we're not heading other Ananda jumping

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to no, hell, no, I'm I mean, we've done enough today.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready. I need to get out of I'm mitching,

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01:15:58,920 --> 01:15:59,880
mitching to get out of there.

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Speaker 1: You're not itching to get over there. But tomorrow you

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can see stuff on social media. Yes, I want to

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see it in person, you know, I want to see

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01:16:06,359 --> 01:16:08,760
the lines, I want to possibly talk to some people,

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01:16:09,159 --> 01:16:10,920
all that sort of stuff. I think it's one of

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those things from everything that I can tell on social

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where it's a giant pain to go through the process,

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to stand in a long line. Of course, no one

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01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,000
likes to do that. But once you're past all of that,

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01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,079
I've seen a lot of the WSP plus app is incredible.

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01:16:24,359 --> 01:16:26,439
You know, people are showing screenshots, they got their table

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01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,000
draw right there, like all that sort of stuff. So

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it's just that kind of initial growing pain that people

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are going to have to get through. I do hope

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01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,199
this is obviously something much further down the road. I

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don't hope you don't. You have to go through this

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01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,319
whole verification process every single year. I hope it's like

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01:16:40,359 --> 01:16:43,079
a one time thing hopfulley, I mean hopefully. We don't know.

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We won't know until next year, but obviously we will see,

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all right, for Tim Duckworth, for myself and also for

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producer Rich Ryan. We are out of here and we

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will talk to you guys next time.

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Speaker 2: So ya a