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Speaker 1: I'm with it.

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Speaker 2: We can't start the pod like this.

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Speaker 1: It's too late.

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Speaker 2: We did.

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Speaker 3: They don't know about they don't know about the conversations

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we have when we made.

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Speaker 2: The Black Sean Brandy.

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Speaker 4: Oh hey, everybody, it's Friday, October twenty fifth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: People at the Taco truck. Do not be alarmed. I'm

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just podcasting here. My name is jan Ochoa. Welcome to

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BombCast Revenge. Jance joining me co captain of the ship.

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His eyes are haunted right now, so he has to

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cover them.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Grubb, Ah, ready to podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's right, He's always ready to podcast. He's been looking

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up how to legally import skeletons into his home.

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Speaker 1: Dan Reikert, I'm pouring one into my body. I got

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one in here right now.

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Speaker 2: That's right, speaking.

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Speaker 5: About having a body's he's he's the haughty, the bad

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boy of games media, and he's got a body count

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that he's hiding in his basement.

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Speaker 6: My man, Oh, it's been naughty, too hotty with the

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most banging body. How's it going? Everybody?

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Speaker 1: Do the kids say body count for sex partners? Now?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Oh, yes they do.

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Speaker 6: I feel like I've heard that used a couple of.

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Speaker 3: Times, and you got to stop bringing up sex.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's my whole gimmick, right, uh huh Yeah. I

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feel like every once in a while I'll see a

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term getting thrown around and like, I think the kids

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are using this now locked in body count.

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Speaker 3: Body body count. They definite use BodyCount for that. Yes, okay,

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that's uh I think I noticed on TikTok a few

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months ago.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, please, let's have a mini very online show. Wow,

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are there any other terms you all would like clarification on.

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Speaker 1: I'm very late to even hearing because then some non TikTok,

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I feel like I'm several months behind, Like like Jane,

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you said, I got on the chapel oone train months

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after it was grown up there elsewhere. BodyCount? I know,

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now it's like several months behind. Yeah, y'all know Ohio

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they were good. I know of Skibbity and Ohio.

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Speaker 3: Yes, o Hio. And what does Ohio mean?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 6: Mid which means I think is it just bad?

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Speaker 2: It's like a little worse than.

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Speaker 3: Is in Ohio. Yeah, which one's cringe is that skibby?

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One of them skilled cringe is cringe?

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Speaker 6: I thought skippity was a sus now that was during study?

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Speaker 2: Is bad?

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Speaker 3: Skippy is like you're a like a bad or evil thing?

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Speaker 2: Evil evil?

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, but but you children comprehend really.

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Speaker 2: Though, No, yeah, they're not old enough to comprehend good

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and bad problems.

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Speaker 6: Don't care about children. You clarified that, yester, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, boys, it's been a week. Uh y'all, y'all

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are fresh off of the race track just now. We

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we did the Astra Invitational two right before this really

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really setting the world to blaze. My friends, you.

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Speaker 3: Guys ever gonna give me competition or what?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: A thousands of a second behind you right now?

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Speaker 3: Grab, I am coming to shoot and the shoot leaderboard.

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I just mean, like for the people were putting on

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a show.

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Speaker 6: Tell you what for the invitation, I thought I had

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no chance. I was pretty happy with myself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because you kind of came in kind of hot.

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Speaker 1: I did have a better one than you during that stream.

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Speaker 6: For the record, I didn't count.

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Speaker 3: I think I had one in the well, yeah, that's right,

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you did have a good one in the sevens, right.

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Speaker 1: I have a it's literally eight thousands of a second

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behind yours. Yours is like seven four oh, I'm like

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seven four eight or something.

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Speaker 3: I had a coup I had a couple. I think

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I got a couple of seven six oh's like off

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stream off camera.

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Speaker 6: I mean right, Dan h that new Sonic game that's

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actually like good. It has it has leaderboards? Oh real

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friendsless leaderboards, Arnie one? Are you playing a PC PlayStation?

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Dan Ross?

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Speaker 1: I want to play that this weekend out. I got

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a busy tomorrow, but I want to play Sonic. I

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want to play Batman VR, and I want to play

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Call of Duty. Uh. Those, so I got a few

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Speaker 2: Get to this weekend.

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Speaker 3: It could be a busy weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interested in checking out Batman also, but I'm

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afraid i'm a yack.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good at that as far as the actual

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because I turned on you know, there's like, oh, do

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you want to do baby Mode VR or do you

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want to do like I won't Puke Mode? I did,

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I won't Puke Mode and it's like throw all of

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it at me, and even then I didn't get and

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Speaker 2: Anyone's checking out Call of Duty this weekend? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Download play a little bit of it.

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Speaker 1: I want to play campaign. I used to play all

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the campaigns uh and I kind of stopped around, like

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w W two, like that that one from Sledgehammer. But

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I've heard this one is good and I liked. I

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just like the black ops like coldor intrigue stuff. I

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think that's fun. So like, I want to play that.

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He probably kills it, I'm saying or something. Yeah, Bill,

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Speaker 6: Can't play? Is George W?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yes, yeah, No, I'm gonna play it.

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Speaker 3: That would yeah.

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Speaker 6: Throw a shoe, that'd be uh so good. I haven't

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played cod campaign since advanced warfare?

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Speaker 3: What what was the moment in modern warfare? Is that

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like someone like tossed you a knife and then you

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throw it at the first one, right, do that? But

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with the shoes?

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Speaker 1: That would sam Eli because you're on the ground. The

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sam Eliot boys, the guards, he just look like Sam Elliott.

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Speaker 3: There's two are you thinking of a not soap?

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Speaker 1: But no, but there's a there's a gray haired guy

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that does a heel turn and I thought it was

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Speaker 6: I don't think a verse war day you remember more

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about this than I do.

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Speaker 3: The general yeah, I know the general. I don't know

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if he was.

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Speaker 1: Saying he was saying Shepherd, Shepherd. I think that sounded.

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Speaker 3: They're saying Shepherd with a question mark though.

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Speaker 6: So general Shepherd.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, that sounds possible. Yeah. Yeah, he turned

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bad and it turned out that the h that he

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was controlling the people that were being terrible.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what military rank would you do? You wish you

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had the most because you think it sounds cool.

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Speaker 1: Brigadier General's right the answer. I think it'd be pretty

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funny if you were lieutenant Dan that so, I know

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that's a reference though. Yeah, you would love Forrest Gump.

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I've seen person of it. I know we ran and

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went to war.

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Speaker 2: For We ate at the restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like yeah yeah, and then free birds

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in it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh god. What was the beverage we had again? That

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was glorious.

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Speaker 6: The beer beer arita.

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Speaker 2: That was good.

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Speaker 6: We could be there in eight days. We're gonna be

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back up.

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Speaker 1: Of a gum.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: I go there for you, Mike. I appreciate that. Dad.

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It's like when you take a kid.

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Speaker 1: To McDonald's play place and like I'll sit over here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, listen, I like that they go

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and entertain themselves. I get to sit there and be clear.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes you don't have to take me to the Mall

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of America if you'd rather take me to like more exciting

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local places. I don't what you do.

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Speaker 3: You seem so happy you America.

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Speaker 1: We'll see okay, because I think it's him and Kayla

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getting in around the same time, and uh, Sean walking there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Sean's walking, he's running like forced.

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Speaker 3: Come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kayla will go anywhere she's so, she's she's easy. Uh,

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maybe she'll be fine with all of America's about the

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airport two. So yeah, what America too. I don't know

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when he's coming in. Maybe we all go.

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Speaker 3: Fun.

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Speaker 6: Sean wants to see that Nickelodeon theme park, which is

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pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, Okay.

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Speaker 6: There's a Lego store there too, and maybe I need

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to finally just go and buy that freaking home alone

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Lego set. It looks so freaking good. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to finish up the Millennium Falcon Lego

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by the time you guys get here, so that table

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can be used for like pizza or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then I've got the Decu tree and the Mario

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on Yoshi thing ready to go, so put those together.

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Speaker 2: Next. Yeah, I saw the announce the X Mansion set,

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and I really really don't need it, but I really

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want it for some reason. They're putting Beast in a

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mini blind bag, so you can get pretty much all

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the other X men except Beast. I wouldn't put Beast

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behind one of those.

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Speaker 6: I tell you. That's one of my favorite character archetypes though,

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like the strong guy but actually he wears reading glasses

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and has books.

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Speaker 2: The beast of this gang? Are you the beast of

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this gang? Like I'm a beast baby?

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Speaker 1: Now, wouldn't that be Grub? I feel like Grub would

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actually be useful in a fight where it's like no

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Speaker 2: Grub would be.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying about Marshall Prowess.

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Speaker 6: I believe Grub as we beat.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, That's what I go around saying.

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Speaker 1: With one of these guys and ship went down. I'm

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sorry I did body stare, but to like one of

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my friends who actual he had bustles, like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: But Dan, what the fight in the world?

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Speaker 1: Though? Is uh going to a bar just with Samoa

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Joe and then oh god, I wanted someone to start

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shipped before. But I went to a Brooklyn bar just

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with Smoa Joe once and I was like, please someone

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start ship.

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Speaker 6: That'd be incredible that I did not. We just got

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drunk and talk.

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Speaker 2: About right now, now, Dan, what if the fight was against.

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Speaker 1: Grubmoa Joe, wouldn't Somoa Joe is not in this equation

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going to the previous hypothetical where you there's a scuffle,

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but the scuffle is and Grub is on the other side.

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I'm throwing Mike Manatti in Grub's way and I'm getting

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the fuck out of there.

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Speaker 6: Maybe I'll be an obstacle. Maybe he'll hesitate for a moment.

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Speaker 3: You'll want some kind of flash back, recognize your humanity,

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Like I know this man.

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Speaker 6: You remember going to were in line for Star Wars

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battle Front together.

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Speaker 2: Something that's a single tear will roll down Grub's eyes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's getting getting Corneyland.

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Speaker 2: Something I really want to squeeze in another Disney trip

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while we're down.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, we haven't talked about that. We could try

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to do that because we haven't.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I booked today.

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Speaker 2: I booked myself really we're supposed to book it.

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Speaker 3: I was not wet today.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I mean if that's difficult. Universe is always

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easier from where we are.

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Speaker 2: It's not the same magic, though, you know.

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Speaker 6: It's it's a different magic.

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Speaker 1: It's you have a big I do enjoy all of

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those properties at Universal more than I enjoyed the Disney.

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Speaker 2: Water I guess. Yeah, And you might get stopping wet again.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, I'll get wet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, remind me to talk to YouTube about

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something immediately after the show that is not gonna cause

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uh rumor that before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I forgot who's the we also lost time?

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Speaker 2: You two what it about?

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Speaker 1: Give a hint.

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Speaker 2: No, don't worry.

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Speaker 6: I think I know what it is.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Mike, you I mean, it's just okay, we're going

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to have a mini meeting after this, and Mike, you

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tell me what you think. I'm going to say, I'm

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too curious.

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Speaker 3: No, Mike knows, because he remembers when you told me.

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Speaker 6: I don't know was there. I'm curious a similar concern.

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I know what it is.

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Speaker 2: Discord me after. It's not that I'm too curious.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be wondering a whole time. Right now, I'm

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going to write in this chat right now.

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Speaker 2: This Yeah, nothing gets shown in the chat. Okay, okay, okay,

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all right? Did I get anyway?

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Speaker 6: That's boring?

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Speaker 2: What I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Why you built it up so much? Dan, He's like,

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let's have a word.

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Speaker 1: And Jan was also wrong. Mike was also wrong, based

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only it was right to be fair.

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Speaker 2: No, well no, not that, not that.

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Speaker 3: It's close. It's tangent.

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Speaker 6: It's a great podcast, going crazy.

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Speaker 2: I am not leaving the website, damn it.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to think you are until I hear otherwise.

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Speaker 2: Dan, I am not leaving the website. That's not what

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I'm talking to you to about. You just heard otherwise, Dan,

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crub discord me. I'll no sell it is it not

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just how.

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Speaker 6: I want to know what it is you know later?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, anyway, it was really nice working

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with you, Jan.

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Speaker 1: That was Oh but Jan, you know what? Yeah, that's

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how could you turn that down? You know, I can't

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believe you would leave me with the memory.

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Speaker 6: I did just get it.

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Speaker 3: I got a message.

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Speaker 1: I got a message from someone on staff saying Jane's leaving.

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Speaker 2: They could just message you that but that wouldn't be real.

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Speaker 1: We're all leaving otherwise from someone on the skull oh man,

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all right, yep, that's right, guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm leaving for kind of funny East Way.

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Speaker 6: We got a message is that the grubs say that.

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Speaker 2: Where are you reading this? Now? This is okay?

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Speaker 3: Okay, it was a good bit. This the whole thing

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that we're doing. It was fun because it's like, oh,

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they're being stupid. But now it's legitimately annoying.

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Speaker 6: I presure need to know or all go crazy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll put it in our discord after I talk

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about what the week's hot topic is. Okay, all right,

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this week's topic.

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Speaker 6: Can we start the show now?

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Speaker 2: This week's hot topic is we are going to be

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crowding the Mount Rushmore of scary games. I was so

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scared my gogsler was gonna break. Jeff Grubb, Please I

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consider you the Mount Rushmore officionado. What what determines a

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Mount Rushmore?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's always important to keep in mind, not

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necessarily always going to be these are the four best

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games in the genre. It is the maybe foremost important.

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Maybe I always say emblematic things that represent what you

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want to represent when you say something like scary games. Now,

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do we want to like get more specific on scary

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games or are we just gonna say like survival horror games.

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Speaker 1: I think we can just say scary because like the

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scary games that aren't in that genre specifically, you know.

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Speaker 3: And we're not talking like, oh, spooky, So it's not

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Luigi's Mansion three, right, Like that's not.

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Speaker 1: Scared the shit out of you. I mean you can

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bring it up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, No, yeah, that's pretty that's that. But that's what

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the definition I'm going for. So we're not talking about like, oh,

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just it's Halloween theme, it's got monsters actually scary, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Grub question, are are we limited to one entry per

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Speaker 3: At all we can have? I think the best way

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to handle those situations is to have the conversation. So

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if you want to put more than one I p

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up there for consideration, you're gonna have to make the

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argument for why these two games from the same franchise

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should be keeping off something fresh.

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Speaker 1: Just to pay off the storyline for the chat Jan

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has updated me and it's it's boring.

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Speaker 2: No, because there's other factors in it, all right, sure,

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but it's it's boring.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's boring.

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Speaker 2: I I'm I'm actually just leaving.

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Speaker 3: Sales for Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Ok So, yes, I mean we could argue a couple

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from U, but yeah, Grub said it. You got to

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make the argument if it's more.

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Speaker 6: Than one, and it is kind of gets it point, like, look,

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it could it could be a whole list of risky

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games a baby. We don't want to do that, sure, yeah,

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I mean, or.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we do, but they would have to be all

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the other games had to be terrible, and I just

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don't think that's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Happen scary games.

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Speaker 6: When you did like thirty like the mounta risk wore

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three D platformers, It's like there might be two Marios

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on there, deal with it. But yeah, right, did we

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do that three D platformers? I think might have done it.

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Speaker 1: That would have had to be like four like or

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three Marios in an astrobob But that's I guess that

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different podcast.

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Speaker 3: It might have been.

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Speaker 2: That's a sick tom if I've ever heard one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think we did it after Astro came out, right,

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so maybe okay? Yeah, okay, so uh, we're who wants

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to start here with? Throw some stuff out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard you guys last night talking about moments,

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and like the dog thing is like the number one

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all timer scary thing that's ever happened in a game.

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We all remember that, we all got scared shitless. It's

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that first great scare in the Great Scary series. And

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ARI One, like I don't know, it was like ARI One,

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I believe came out before because it came out in

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ninety six, was set in ninety eight, right, so it

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would have been a couple years before Middle of Your Solid.

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So like, even though it's not like cinematic on the

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level of like a metal gear, it was still early

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on in that like CD ROM Oh shit, we've got

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voice acting, we've got a story. They're doing these cinematic

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angles and everything. It really came at the right time.

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Speaker 2: This is a.

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Speaker 1: Completely different experience that I've never had before, and they

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did it so well right out of the gate.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I think sometimes people forget about, oh, nineteen

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niney six, Like this is like as much a three

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D gaming pioneer as Mario sixty four is, which is

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impressive and obviously doing a very different thing. Yeah, you know,

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it reads is pretty camping now, but at the time

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I did to think it was camping. I thought it

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was pretty actually scary. And if that campingess like detracts

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from it actually being frightening for you, well you can

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go and play the remake that they did in the

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game Cuber, which is still actually pretty legitimately scary, and

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it's still a very good looking game, the best rendered

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backgrounds you probably will ever see. Yeah, and like there

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might be scarier resident eual games, uh now for sure,

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but there's something about this game that is still a

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good bounce of some jump scares, a lot of just

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tense moments and creepiness. And also like, yeah, it started

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the survival horror genre right, Like I wasn't thinking about

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scary video games really being a thing before this. I

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know they were out there, but this opened the floodgates

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on that genre.

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Speaker 1: Well another thing you mentioned, they were like quieter moments

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and it's not just the dog, it's not just the

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zombie turning around. Like when I think about it, I

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equally remember like, Okay, this is just a big dining

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hall and all I can hear is the ticking of

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a grandfather clock that's like echoing across the floor, and

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it's like that is just such a spooky vibe. It's

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not constantly throwing shit at you, but then when it

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does throw shit at you, like oh, here's the hunters,

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then you're it's like shit your pants, Like, oh god,

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I'm in trouble with feeling.

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Speaker 6: It's so smart because it's you know, it's a haunted house,

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Like that's what it is. It's a haunted house, and

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it's kind of Metroidvania esque. You're sort of repeating areas,

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you're thinking about your resources. Even that's scary, right, like, oh, man,

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like I may not going to shoot this zombie because

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I don't have them eight bullets. I kind of have

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to like weave around it. And that's tense. Is getting

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hit one time could be a very big problem.

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Speaker 1: Thing is there is a reason I don't think I

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beat a Resident Evil game until four because I owned them.

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I played them. But it's like I could not even

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get the concept of like Ammo conservation. I played everything

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like an action game, so it's like I see an enemy,

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I need to kill the enemy. So like I never

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weaved around zombies, I never conserved Ammo, and so I

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would always just get to a point halfway through the game,

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where it's like I'm fucked. I guess I'm not playing

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this game. So yeah, it was a whole different way

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of playing games. It's not just kill everything you see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I because it did more than

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just the haunted House thing, was like very good. Good

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for me because it's like, oh, for me, monsters were

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just these enemies have a different flavor, but these actually

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felt like monsters, like Halloween style monsters, and that went

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a long way for me. And then I think the

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sound design was that, like it actually goes a long

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way as well, where like everything sounds creepy and goofy

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and and evil, and yeah, that were commedy and.

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Speaker 6: There's a giant's name.

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Speaker 1: Tirants cool Wester. Like all the FMV stuff that intro

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is amazing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even the way the mechanics are set up

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like it's a survival horror game like back then, having

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to have the the the ink ribbons and trying to

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get through a part that was like I'm scared, but

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I got to get through this or else I'm not

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going to be able to save and that increases the

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tension kind of just makes the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: I get why games won't do that anymore. But it

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was like incredible. Even saving is this like tense decision, like,

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oh is it worth saving you right now? Everything about

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that game just builds up tension in this really pleasant way.

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And also like it's so neat that you do have

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two characters. You can play it as uh Jill or

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as Chris, and it's different experiences in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: I probably loaded the game up once as Chris and

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saw the six inventory slots. It's like, fuck that nowhere

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near up with eight? Like fu right.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't even know how to play the piano. It

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has to get Rebecca to do that, doesn't have a

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lock pick, Like yeah, no, no.

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Speaker 2: Master of anything. No, I'll go next. And I'm really

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torn here a doctor, it's on the BombCast dock, I

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got it. Oh, keep in tally cool. I'm really torn here, gents,

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because I know that Silent Hill two is the more

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popular game, but Silent Hill one scared the shit out

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of me as a child and as a full grown adult.

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You think the atmosphere that it sets and like really

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using the limitations of the PlayStation one but really utilizing

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the fog really well. And I think kind of being

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in a different vein than Resident Evil, where you do

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have weapons, you do have a means of getting rid

472
00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:45,799
of enemies, but you're really really fucked if you get

473
00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:50,000
yourself into a bad situation. And then the puzzles and

474
00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:53,279
the atmosphere of going back and forth so much similar

475
00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:56,079
to Resident Evil. Yes, but I feel like, uh, the

476
00:20:56,079 --> 00:20:58,640
the atmosphere that it was presenting, and just like the

477
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,480
sound design, uh, especially goofy sounds. I wouldn't say schalorpy sounds.

478
00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:07,519
Schilorpy is like a parenthesis positive right, Yeah, But like

479
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,559
Silent Hill won for whatever reason, and it was really

480
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,240
it's tough for me to say Silent Hill one versus two,

481
00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:17,200
especially after playing through uh the sound Hill to remake,

482
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,839
which is really well done. But Silent Hill won for

483
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,519
whatever reason. Maybe because it ends on a zanier note,

484
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,319
or maybe it has like all the trappings that I

485
00:21:28,319 --> 00:21:30,279
look for. Maybe it reminds me more of a Twin

486
00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:34,359
Peaks and like the weird religious stuff at the end

487
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,319
of it. I would like to nominate Silent Hill one

488
00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:38,680
over Silent Hill two.

489
00:21:39,079 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you because both of them, I feel like

490
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,640
I rented and god like I played through like it

491
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,759
did with Resident Eevil. It's basically every survival organ and

492
00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:49,079
I remember being more scared by one. I just remember

493
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,440
the tone being so scary and being so different than

494
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,720
Resident Evil in like that psychological way rather than the

495
00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:56,240
jump scare way. And two I just remember getting more

496
00:21:56,279 --> 00:21:58,680
frustrated by it. My memory of two was always just

497
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,160
like trying to open doors and apartment building and they're

498
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,599
all locked, and that I just got bored and frustrated

499
00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:06,960
with it, whereas one, I just remember like going going

500
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,200
into the school and there's weird like little ghost children

501
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:09,799
and stuff, and.

502
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 6: I remember just being way way creepier to me. I mean,

503
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,279
I haven't played one. I only played sound Hill two.

504
00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:18,119
I played that Remax recently and I was very very

505
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,039
impressed by it. So, you know, so I can't really

506
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,279
say if it's creepier scarier than one, I'm gonna have

507
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,799
to go with you two on it. But yeah, I'd

508
00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:30,559
be completely fine if it was sound Hill two for consideration,

509
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,160
is all I'm saying something.

510
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 2: Or there are parts of Silent Hill too, like in

511
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,640
retrospect and where it feels like to me, And you know,

512
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,319
this is going to be very different than how other

513
00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:44,680
people experience the game because they played it when they

514
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,880
were much younger, and I played as an adult. But

515
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,480
there's parts of two where it feels a little heavy

516
00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:53,000
handed and it feels like it is trying to tell

517
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,559
you more through its metaphors rather than to scare you,

518
00:22:56,599 --> 00:22:59,640
because like the opening of sound Hill one did like

519
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,599
to stick with me and was very unnerving for a while.

520
00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:09,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will say it's it's almost more psychological sound

521
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,319
Hill two. You know, part of it is, I guess

522
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,759
it's not really doing like a lot of things like

523
00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:15,240
jump scares or whatnot. I kind of like having a

524
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,559
few jump scares in these games sometimes, right, it gets

525
00:23:17,559 --> 00:23:19,759
the hard you know, the dog going through the window. Right,

526
00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:22,599
it's kind of what keeps you, uh, sort of excited

527
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,960
and on edge a little bit.

528
00:23:24,839 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my questions. Like, yeah, the sound Hill too.

529
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,839
I know it's famous for exploring the trauma of the

530
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,880
characters and and all the enemies represent sort of inner turmoil.

531
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,400
I never knew Sound Hill one was exactly the same,

532
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,039
or if it was like more about setting and the

533
00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:42,480
fog and the uneasiness and stuff like that.

534
00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: I think because it was like the first game to

535
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:51,000
try and hit uneasiness like that, it felt like he

536
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,920
was using those tools more rather than trying to deal

537
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,039
with these psychological internal right, or just like the flog

538
00:23:58,079 --> 00:24:03,319
played such a big deal, like roaming around and realizing like, oh,

539
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,759
I really am limited eating my AMMO in my weapons,

540
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:09,039
and like even my actions against the enemies.

541
00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: I'll nominate one if we're ready. Yeah, yeah, PT. I

542
00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:19,359
think that we're just talking about something that scares people

543
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,759
as a game. I don't think we need to like

544
00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:24,839
dismiss this just because it's the playable teaser, that's the name.

545
00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:27,920
It is very scary and it is a game, and

546
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,640
it was so influential that basically Resident Evil had to

547
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,319
kind of follow it up and be like, well we

548
00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:36,559
should probab maybe have more similarities to that going forward.

549
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:44,359
PT just is a really condensed horror experience of putting

550
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,039
you in this hallway, having you go through that hallway

551
00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,960
over and over again. You have expectations of how things

552
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,720
will work, and then it begins messing with you. It

553
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,119
lulls you into a false sense of security, and then

554
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,640
always sort of delivers on an undermining that sense of

555
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,240
security and the most horrifying way. Often often I think

556
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,680
Lisa's showing up down the hallway. It's just especially because

557
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,400
the visuals that Fox Engine was so good with that

558
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,960
lightning and the shadow of the character at into the hallway,

559
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,079
it looks so realistic that it was petrifying just to

560
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,319
take another step down the hallway, and then and then

561
00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:20,759
it was it's this fun little puzzle box as well

562
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,640
of trying to figure out how these things work and

563
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,640
interact with one another, how to actually clear the game

564
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:28,440
so you could see the little treat at the end.

565
00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:31,799
It's just really well done all around. And in terms

566
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:35,720
of atmosphere and visuals and and tension, it nails all

567
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:37,720
of those. It's about its about as good as any

568
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,799
horror game ever has.

569
00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:40,839
Speaker 1: And I wish I would have played it more. I

570
00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:42,799
mean I downloaded when it came out. I played like

571
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,240
maybe five or ten minutes a bit and I was like, okay, cool,

572
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,839
Well I'm curious what this turns into. You know, it's

573
00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:49,519
a thing of like I like, waiting till the poll

574
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:50,319
game's out, and so.

575
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 3: I never Yeah, but that was never That was never

576
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,359
going to be the full game. There's gonna be a

577
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:53,799
whole other thing.

578
00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:54,599
Speaker 6: I get that now.

579
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: The Island Hills thing was going to be the thing

580
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,720
but I was like, I think I was like, maybe

581
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,279
that's why I didn't take it serious and didn't really

582
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:00,759
play it. But I do thinking it did have a

583
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:02,519
good atmosphere. I just like, I don't think I got

584
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:04,200
to least in the hallway or anything like that.

585
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and we can't overlook and I grub You

586
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,720
talked about how it kind of overhauled Resident Evil, but

587
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:14,640
it inspired a whole new generation of yeahs horror games.

588
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely there. Every horor game was trying to be

589
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:17,920
PT for a while.

590
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

591
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: Like now if you look at indie horror games, it's

592
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,000
either trying to be a PS one game, a Resident Evil,

593
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:24,599
Silent Hill, or a PT.

594
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: Like yeah, definitely, that's that's still happening.

595
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: Uh, let me nominate Amnesia, the first one. I remember

596
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,319
playing that, and uh, it was just the idea of

597
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,160
like you can't even fight back, like, oh, this horrifying

598
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,559
thing is here, I don't even quite know what it

599
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,799
looks like, and all I can do is like hide

600
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,519
underneath the desk and turn off my light or whatever.

601
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,319
I remember playing that at night one night, all the

602
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,559
lights were out, middle of the night, my girlfriend at

603
00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:55,839
the time was asleep, and I remember like she came

604
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,599
out to ask me a question or something at one point,

605
00:26:57,599 --> 00:27:02,000
and I seriously like threw my headset off and like, yeah,

606
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,400
it's like not many games have gotten that reaction out

607
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,279
of me, so uh yeah, and it's just great.

608
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,319
Speaker 2: Uh skipped the first do you want to do? You

609
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,119
want to nominate two? If you got them?

610
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:12,559
Speaker 3: No?

611
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:14,039
Speaker 6: No, I went first. We're good, We're good, but you

612
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:14,680
went first.

613
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: Oh.

614
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 6: I kind of jumped in there a resident e boy.

615
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,799
I think did I heard mind making that up?

616
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: Kind of like we just all just kind of said, right, well, that's.

617
00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 6: Fine, I'll go but yeah, good. I haven't played it

618
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,480
yet because I was a Caliver so long, but that

619
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:30,920
one comes up a lot from other people as specifically

620
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:35,279
just for being scary. I think Dead Space, you could say,

621
00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:38,200
the original or the remake. I think that that flavor

622
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,240
of sci fi horror is always really interesting, right, They're

623
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,400
always kind of chasing that alien dream, which is a

624
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,720
good dream to chase. There's only very specific about how

625
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:51,839
that kind of scary is scary. You know, an abandoned

626
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,119
space station with stuff half working and just blood smeared

627
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,759
all over the walls. And I do like that, you know,

628
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,559
it is a bit more action heavy, right, it's taking

629
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,039
stuff from Resident Evil four, but it is scarier than

630
00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:07,359
a Resident Evil four. It doesn't necessarily feel like a

631
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,200
full blown action game, especially since you had to be

632
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,200
so precise. Yeah, well, maybe isn't Resident Evil one scarce,

633
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,799
but you are being a little bit careful and it

634
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,559
is much, you know, beneficial to actually think about shooting

635
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,400
off the lambs and not just spamming your shots at

636
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,200
these people. But it is so much just that atmosphere

637
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:29,240
of this spaceship space station and going to all these

638
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:31,759
different places in the way that they're you know, tricking

639
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:35,279
you with lights with the Ui Ui SOVERI good in

640
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,279
that game. So yeah, that space stands out for me.

641
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:46,559
Speaker 2: Awesome, wonderful. Hmm okay, I uh, I want to nominate

642
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,279
Resident Evil seven.

643
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: Yes, that is the one.

644
00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:55,799
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, so I was. I had. My expectations were

645
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,319
very low post six, despite enjoying playing six with one

646
00:28:59,319 --> 00:29:02,319
of my good friends. I just thought that they Resident

647
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,839
Evil had jumped the shark and that we weren't going

648
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,400
to be super horror focused anymore. We've kind of hit

649
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,440
like the action tone or whatever. But this was such

650
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,839
a good reset for the series that it feels like

651
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:21,000
it's completely obliterated the mental presence in my head at

652
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:24,599
least a five and six because this is so tang

653
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,680
scary and one of the only instances where I was

654
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,559
that friend at a party that refuses to be in

655
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:33,000
a room while a game is being played, and then

656
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,599
I got made to play it in VR because I

657
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,519
was being a baby about Oh hell yeah.

658
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,559
Speaker 1: The dr aspect can't be understated here. You know, I'm

659
00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:43,000
not the biggest VR fan, but like I do think

660
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:46,160
playing that game in VR is probably the scariest video

661
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,440
game experience I've ever had.

662
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: And I can't imagine something scarier.

663
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it's it's I'll never forget. I was

664
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,519
sitting next to a bonk and she hadn't done a

665
00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:55,119
lot of VR at the time, and I was like,

666
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:56,559
all right, give it a shot, and she was in

667
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:59,359
a safe room. I put the VR on PSVR and

668
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,960
then it was like it was the part We're supposed

669
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,480
to go down into the basement and there's all the

670
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,240
weird goopy guys in like the cemetery or the crematorium place.

671
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,400
And I remember her like, Okay, I'm gonna go down

672
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,680
and I'm looking over at her because her character is

673
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,160
not moving down the stairs I can see on the

674
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,200
TV and I just see her chest start, like, oh okay,

675
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,839
she's trying to like work herself up to go down

676
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:21,000
a staircase and a video game. And if that was

677
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:23,000
just on the TV, you would just go down, you know.

678
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,640
But it is so so good and so scary and VR.

679
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,119
I would absolutely put that on there as the second

680
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,160
resident able. Yeah, that'd be the scariest resident.

681
00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, just about being the scariest, which isn't always

682
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,960
the case with these mount Rushmoor's right, sure, but yeah,

683
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,359
definitely the scariest.

684
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Grub, I think it's in front.

685
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,559
Speaker 3: Of you now, Okay, I wonder what you guys think

686
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:50,200
about Eternal Darkness, because I think there's some scary parts

687
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,440
in it here, are there? But I don't overall, I

688
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,599
think it's more like a fun sort of Cthulhu. What

689
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,160
is that love crafty and Eldritch thank you? Yes, Eldrich

690
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,880
themed horror adventure game where it's like kind of almost

691
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,519
action adventure and not super scary, but it is like

692
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:14,079
technically a scary game and the scary game genre.

693
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: I gotta say that seeing seeing Backlar play it, a

694
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,880
couple of years ago. Now we're think I wouldn't. I mean,

695
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,000
I know, we're playing like talking to our friends in

696
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:25,119
the daytime, but like it's you know, I.

697
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:27,119
Speaker 6: Played through that game too again right before that. I

698
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,960
still thought it was fun, but you know whatever, it's

699
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,160
a frontloaded game with the scares. Like the scariest moment

700
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,119
from that game that everyone remembers is the bathtub, and

701
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:38,119
that's an incredible scare, right like when Jeff and I did,

702
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:41,079
I'm not rush more of scary moments that made it there.

703
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:44,680
Like after that, I'm like, what else was scary? And

704
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,160
there were definitely some things, but it definitely does kind

705
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,240
of fall off from the true horror aspect what you said.

706
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,759
It becomes more love crafting, which isn't personally my favorite

707
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,799
flavor of horror, so misses a little.

708
00:31:57,839 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: I do like that stuff, and I still don't think

709
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,079
it's like, it's not that scary. And then the sanity

710
00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:07,200
effects they are very cool the first time. Yeah yeah,

711
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,200
but it's uh yeah, So I'm I'm like, Okay, well,

712
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,240
if not that one, what else would I put up there?

713
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:15,640
I mean I would be like, hey, maybe five nights

714
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,400
at Freddy's. But I don't think it's gonna make our cut.

715
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:20,599
Speaker 2: I don't think it would make our mount rush more. Yeah,

716
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,880
just because I feel like that's way past we're past

717
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,279
away target demo for it.

718
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I played, I played. I played that first one

719
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:28,480
and thought like, yeah, I like this, this is a

720
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:31,559
you know, it's not much, but it's it's playing around

721
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:35,000
with that fun animatronics and and how I just think

722
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,519
those things are scary on their own, and this game

723
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:40,240
is playing around in that space really well. But I

724
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:42,599
don't know, it's not going to probably make our list.

725
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,039
Speaker 6: It's five Nights of Friday, just the modern seventh Guest,

726
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,000
and also should we talk about seventh guests?

727
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: I mean it's the modern night trap.

728
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:53,359
Speaker 6: Really, I will call you a boomer and I'm older

729
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:57,039
than you. Yeah, where's the seventh Guest? The seventh Guests

730
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,759
mattered back in nineteen ninety three Darted, It helped sell CD,

731
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,440
Wrong Drives.

732
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: FMV okay, okay, So we have two kind of nominations.

733
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,480
Mike Manatti, I think the wheels back in front of

734
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,519
you unless we want to start cutting stuff or.

735
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:16,799
Speaker 6: To bring up the Alan Wake games. And I'm trying

736
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:19,480
to im trying to sigh for myself if I went

737
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:22,519
nominated for this at least because they are scary games.

738
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,240
And yet, like the reason I like these games anyways

739
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:28,559
usually doesn't have that much ado with the scary elements

740
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:30,960
of it. Right, Like everybody's favorite part from Allen Week

741
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,440
two was the wacky musical section, Right, Yeah, there's nothing

742
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,240
scary about that, and I don't like one what I

743
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:39,079
like about that games like the splash, like mechanics and

744
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,119
kind of the shooting. There's some good vibes, there's some

745
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,519
definitely some horror elements. There's definitely in two there are

746
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:48,000
some scary alms. Maybe a Way two deserves uh sittering,

747
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,799
but I don't know.

748
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: I absolutely love Alan Wake two, but I wouldn't put

749
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,720
it on the mount rush more because I think there's

750
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,799
enough scares in it to make it a scary game, but.

751
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't rise above that.

752
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, afterwards, like it winds up feeling more like a

753
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:13,599
thriller rather than like a horror movie. Yeah, if we

754
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:16,519
were to like equate it to movie terms, because like,

755
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:19,960
like Zodiac is a thriller, but there's like a couple

756
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:23,000
horror scenes in it that are unnerving, and there's definitely

757
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,440
parts of Allen Way two that are like horror focused

758
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,280
and unnerving, and that makes you kind of question a

759
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,519
bunch of things. But even with the bray Wyatt style scares,

760
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,400
I wouldn't put it on the Mount rush More of

761
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:37,480
horror games.

762
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:38,679
Speaker 1: Maggots on the screen.

763
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 3: Whoa, But what about Alien Isolation or Until Dawn? I

764
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,000
just want to get your guys temperatures on those. I

765
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,079
haven't played either.

766
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: Really.

767
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 3: I played a little bit of Alien.

768
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: I played a little Alien. I'd beat Until Dawn. Until

769
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,000
Don's a good game. Yeah, But I mean, if we

770
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:53,880
decide that we're doing these are the scariest games of

771
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,480
all time, there's a couple like jump scare things where

772
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,440
it's like I interacted with this drawer and a raccoon

773
00:34:58,519 --> 00:34:59,039
jumped out of me.

774
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 6: You know, like there's.

775
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: Doesn't have to be the scariest, but Mount Rushmore of

776
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:03,159
scary games.

777
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, anything really that's scary about him?

778
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I still agree with that.

779
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

780
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,599
Speaker 2: I think I probably played it in a wrong setting

781
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:11,519
for me to be really scared, because I played it

782
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:13,920
amongst a bunch of friends and we were kind of like,

783
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,920
oh and like goofing the whole time. So there were

784
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,599
definitely jump scare moments, but it started feeling a little

785
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,320
too sawish where it was like very gory rather than scary.

786
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 6: Sure, I'm not a big slasher fan.

787
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, No, I've.

788
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,679
Speaker 1: Seen some people mentioned in the chat and I think

789
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,559
this is worth it, and I'm curious when you beat it.

790
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:40,000
But Outlast I played that at a PAS. It was

791
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,400
my first experience with them. They put you in a

792
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,320
dark room and you just play it, and I remember

793
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,920
it's scaring the shit out of me as I played it,

794
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,440
and then I don't remember why I didn't play through

795
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,000
it when it came out.

796
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:51,519
Speaker 6: I've any who played the whole game. Does it keep

797
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:52,280
that up the whole time?

798
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:54,199
Speaker 3: I haven't played the whole game, but I think I

799
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,159
played a good bit of it when the PS four

800
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:57,880
first came out because it was like an early PS

801
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:02,000
four game, if I'm remembering, And I thought it was

802
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,519
scary the whole time I was playing it, for sure.

803
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's got that like you know viewfinder camera thing.

804
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,239
You're going through this you know, dark hospital, and I've

805
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:10,559
ever been pretty fucking scary.

806
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:15,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it definitely is, but it's like for

807
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,199
me because that's first person, right, and it felt like

808
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,760
I fell like another one of these there, like kind

809
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,400
of going in the wake of PT a little bit.

810
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,719
But maybe that's not right. Maybe maybe that was maybe

811
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,239
it was his own thing. So I don't know, but

812
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,559
I I just feel like PT fills that category on

813
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,239
the Mount Rushmore for sure.

814
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,519
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. So I pulled up an IGN

815
00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:37,719
list of the top twenty five best horror games, and

816
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,039
I also solicited a couple of items from folks in

817
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:42,679
chat here. I'm just going to quickly rattle through them

818
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,400
and see if we feel inclined to add any to

819
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,400
our personal list before we rattle away. Ready, boys, yep,

820
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,960
all right, let's see stuff we haven't included. Stay out

821
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,960
of the House. Don't know that that is.

822
00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.

823
00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:59,079
Speaker 2: Slender the eight Pages.

824
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: I did play that. It was kind of spooky, but

825
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,519
not really for.

826
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 6: That was kind of a fuck a flash in the

827
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,920
pan a bit, the whole slender Man thing.

828
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, definitely correction, Doctor Ryan Chad says, Outlast

829
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,760
was twenty thirteen. PT was twenty fourteen.

830
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was just like himself there, Yeah,

831
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:17,559
it was like, yeah, I remember that actually coming up

832
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:19,239
before because PT was a little bit later.

833
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, the evil within mm yeah, I was wondering about this.

834
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:27,199
People like the second one more right, I didn't love it.

835
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:30,559
Speaker 2: Like that way. Yeah, ooh, I this crossed my head,

836
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:32,559
but I didn't stay there. Condemned.

837
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: I liked Condemned and Contempt Contempt to. I didn't finish

838
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,599
either one, but I liked what I played one, but

839
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:41,440
I kind of a definitely scary.

840
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like first person melee combat and stuff, but

841
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,000
it was tense. Yeah, but yeah, not yet on here.

842
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,519
Speaker 3: But those are just murder simulators.

843
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: Well, speaking about murder simulators, Manhunt.

844
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,039
Speaker 3: Oh there you go frustrated? Is that blake worthy?

845
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,199
Speaker 1: No? No, no, not even if we played at the

846
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:01,800
headset thing, I thought that was funny.

847
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: Okay, where's in the dark dan Hunt? That'd be funny hunt?

848
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,039
Oh yeah, all right inside.

849
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: No, I would put Limb.

850
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:13,639
Speaker 2: Put Limbo.

851
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean.

852
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,199
Speaker 6: I guess they're kind of scary, but.

853
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,559
Speaker 2: I'll just put Limbo here for now and we will

854
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:19,840
cut it.

855
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 6: Limbo is not terrible, and it's definitely a different kind

856
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:23,679
of scary game.

857
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 4: Right.

858
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 6: If you're looking for variety, definitely throw that one in there.

859
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,559
It's a quick Jaunt, especially if you don't like spiders,

860
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:30,840
then yeah, Limbo's gonna get you.

861
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I won't play that visage never heard of it,

862
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:46,400
massage or vision visage, saying visage fasmophobia. Very scary game,

863
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:49,280
but it's a fun game to play, though.

864
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is scary though.

865
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: I mean, god, I think it's like right there on

866
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:58,000
the border of line of like, oh yeah, that is

867
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,320
sort of an institution. Now it could be up on

868
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,639
the Okay, let's.

869
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,199
Speaker 2: Let's put it. I'll put on this list.

870
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: Then, you know, I think we do if we're doing

871
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,360
this like five years from now, I think Fastmophobia gets

872
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,760
on the Mount Rushmore pretty easily.

873
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 6: You know there's a Teddy Roosevelt slot, right yep.

874
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, Dead by Daylight.

875
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 6: Uh, that's more fun.

876
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:28,119
Speaker 1: Asymmetric multiplayer Scarya.

877
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: Soma Cruise, Nope, clock Tower.

878
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: I always had the idea that was scary as hell,

879
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:36,599
but I didn't have a saturn, just the idea of

880
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:39,039
what big dude was due with big ass scissors chasing

881
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:41,800
around the house like a terminator like that sounds scary

882
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,360
as hell.

883
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: And you know that he can't run with scissors. So

884
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:48,320
now walking very carefully. Yeahs Scarier weird.

885
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 6: Out tried that and all he got out of it

886
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,440
was a best selling.

887
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:53,519
Speaker 2: Album Forbidden Siren two.

888
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 6: Never heard of it.

889
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: I think this may be an offshoot of the Fatal

890
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,320
Frames here.

891
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,519
Speaker 1: I never played, I like rented the first one or something,

892
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:01,679
but a lot of it.

893
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:07,199
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, all right, you mentioned those mentioned Ari four

894
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,480
not making the scary games.

895
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 6: Listen, No, that's scary.

896
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,199
Speaker 1: There are scary moments. I'm glad you guys got around

897
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,440
last night to the Regenerators because if I was thinking

898
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,519
about like one spot that actually scared me in that game,

899
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:19,480
there is the part where the Regenerator like bursts out

900
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:21,679
and they're like close quarters in the freezer and stuff

901
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:24,239
like yeah, chainsaw guy. There are lots of scary moments,

902
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,360
but it's mostly oh shit, action oriented, you know. If

903
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,119
there weren't so many like better Resident Evil games for

904
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:33,079
this specific like ones.

905
00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the last one that we haven't covered

906
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,519
that that ig in list had was Left for Dead two.

907
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,639
Not scary, I know, not scary.

908
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,159
Speaker 6: That's not scary. They don't really talk about alien isolation

909
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,920
very much other Jeff Rubs Oh right.

910
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,559
Speaker 2: Right, I haven't played it. So I can't speak to it.

911
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 6: If you played, it is very scary, Yeah, I almost.

912
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,519
It's like, what what would you rather have in that

913
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:55,960
kind of sci fi horror slot though that are dead

914
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,840
Space Face. I think Alien Isolation is probably scarier. I

915
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,880
think that Faces maybe a more robust game.

916
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,079
Speaker 2: I don't want to think about influence too much, but

917
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:11,039
I feel like maybe dead Space might have more in

918
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:11,599
the long run.

919
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:14,679
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, that Space is really good.

920
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: Also, if you're not going to have like an R

921
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,760
four style game, I feel like dead Space fills that.

922
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:23,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, like more action heavy, but still scary.

923
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Space was very scary.

924
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 6: I see some people chest saying Bloodborne, which is kind

925
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,119
of interesting. It's a little I get I see it

926
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:33,079
a little bit, you.

927
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: Know, Elder g as well.

928
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:39,679
Speaker 1: It's not any scarier than like any Soul's game, you know, I.

929
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:40,199
Speaker 2: Think it is.

930
00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:43,199
Speaker 6: I think it is scarier than the other Souls game.

931
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,719
Maybe not by a lot. But if you ask me

932
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,719
what's the scariest Soul's game, I would say blood I'm.

933
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: Just realizing that I've been conflating Clocktower and Clockwork Night

934
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,519
my entire life.

935
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 6: Those are very very different.

936
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: Now.

937
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: I never played either one.

938
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 6: I played a lot of Clockwork Night as a kid,

939
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,320
and very little clock a fund out.

940
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: Has anyone checked out Phantasmagoria two?

941
00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:06,039
Speaker 3: No?

942
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: No, okay, I don't think so. All right, we've we've

943
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,039
pretty much covered a lot of the other games that

944
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:15,639
folks are suggesting. Let me just do another scan Last

945
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:19,239
of Us, but I don't know, not enough.

946
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,599
Speaker 3: Unless it was part two. I really hated going in

947
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:22,320
that hospital.

948
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 6: Sure yeah, but it resident before style like yeah, yeah.

949
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it needs I don't think it's

950
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:29,400
gonna make the cut.

951
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,159
Speaker 2: And then a couple of folks and Chuck have been

952
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:35,800
saying night Trap, that's a different thing.

953
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:39,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. I would put Fineff before I put

954
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:39,519
Night Trap.

955
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:43,039
Speaker 6: I would put Seventh Guests, I would put the Eleventh Hour.

956
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 3: Okay, now you're just talking security number seven.

957
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 6: I remember watching my brother play Eleventh Hour and I

958
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,559
was like, because it had the veils, like this is

959
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,679
I think ghost are real?

960
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 2: Who?

961
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,639
Speaker 6: There was a there was a Alone in the Dark

962
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,239
fmv CD wrong game that I had as a kid

963
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,239
that was awesome.

964
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:12,079
Speaker 3: Same you been Edward before, He's been Edward Carnby this whole.

965
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 6: Time, I got Carby tired.

966
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 3: What about a Splatterhouse twenty ten.

967
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:22,679
Speaker 2: You like that, Jan, No, no, no, Spiderhouse one and

968
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,159
two roll it's just John Cena an adjacent mask.

969
00:43:26,639 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what about the Haunting starring Polter Guy, Poulter Guy.

970
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 6: Pretty good, It's not bad.

971
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: All right.

972
00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:41,199
Speaker 3: I think we have our four in our short list here?

973
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:42,880
Which do you want to read the whole shortlist we have?

974
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: Jan? Uh, yeah, Well, I'll start from the bottom and

975
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:48,039
we'll go up to the top of stuff that we've

976
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:50,440
considered and put down on a list. So we have

977
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:57,760
FAsMA Phobia, Limbo Until Dawn, Alan Wake, Eternal Darkness, Sanities, Requiem,

978
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:03,400
five Nights at Freddy's, Resident Evil seven, Dead Space, Amnesia, PT,

979
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,480
Silent Hill one, and Resident Evil one.

980
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Yeah, I think those first three are

981
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,800
I know PT might have a little bit hard time.

982
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:15,239
I think a lot of you didn't play it, but

983
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,519
I think those first three are probably a lot I

984
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:21,400
take your word for it. On Residevil, Silent Hill, and PT.

985
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:24,199
That means was one space. Now do you guys disagree

986
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:24,400
with that?

987
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: And I think we definitely put them as the top

988
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,360
contenders right now. I would also say, let's bold already seven?

989
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 6: Okay, again, that might be hard to just and again

990
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,800
it's like a requirement that can't be more than one

991
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,480
game fred series. But because there's like so many, like

992
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:38,239
I don't know that.

993
00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:43,039
Speaker 2: Space, it's all so different enough from the original first person.

994
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 3: Conversation.

995
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, can go ahead and cut five nights in

996
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,159
Eternal Darkness. Yeah yeah, I'll take out away.

997
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:59,039
Speaker 3: Ye I think cut limbo. Yeah, honestly, okay for me

998
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,159
if we're not, if it's and not receiveble seven, I

999
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:02,559
think it might be fastmophobia.

1000
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,679
Speaker 1: There's something there. Yeah, it genuinely it's even though you're

1001
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:08,320
playing with friends and stuff like that, and it's a

1002
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,519
good streaming game and everything. Like remember I only played

1003
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:12,519
a couple of times. Remember one time I like screamed

1004
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:13,800
at something like holy.

1005
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: Shit, it's got the VR thing as well, and it was.

1006
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: To do proximity audio.

1007
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: Really well yeah, oh I.

1008
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 6: Just don't want to talking stuff and everything.

1009
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,199
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fine. Yeah, that's cool.

1010
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean having to like having to like, like

1011
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,599
I think, like find some light source to do anything

1012
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:32,480
in the basement because it's completely just black and I'm

1013
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,360
in the VR down there.

1014
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 6: It's yeah, I am some hesitation with with dead Space.

1015
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,159
What's what's kind of Well, no, there's a lot of

1016
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:41,079
good ones here right now.

1017
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,639
Speaker 1: I fucking love dead Space, Like I like dead Space

1018
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,840
definitely more than like Fastmophobia or PTE.

1019
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 6: But I think for these purposes, you know.

1020
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 2: Right, I might sooner cut pt to I would seven

1021
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,719
and fasmophobia I would.

1022
00:45:57,559 --> 00:45:58,119
Speaker 6: I would do that.

1023
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think I's wrong, guys. It's pt IS.

1024
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,960
Is is emblematic and iconic, iconic in this space. I'm

1025
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,679
scary games now. It is so important to horror games

1026
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:10,559
have been for the last ten.

1027
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 6: Years, even tho I've been playing. I think I had

1028
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,639
this like argument with Jeff once and then like him

1029
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:16,559
and everybody else out to me to plant like not

1030
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:18,639
not like yelling at me, but they like convinced me.

1031
00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:20,239
I'm like, no, I think I get it. I think

1032
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,960
pt probably makes a lot of sense.

1033
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:27,079
Speaker 2: So is the real argument here? If Sound Hill one

1034
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:34,000
belongs on here? Oh wait, it's a heavy hitter, Yeah,

1035
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:36,519
it's heavy hitter, cult classic for sure.

1036
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,639
Speaker 6: I mean I put something again, I haven't played one.

1037
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:42,679
I would put two up there for saying even you know,

1038
00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:44,239
more fitting than two is.

1039
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,039
Speaker 1: I mean, Silent Hill one is definitely in the top

1040
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:51,000
four games on this list that have scared me personally, sure,

1041
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:51,719
without a doubt.

1042
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:57,599
Speaker 3: I mean, if we do Resival one, Silent Hill one PT,

1043
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,119
and residueval seven, like we don't feel too great about

1044
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:01,559
that or what?

1045
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:03,599
Speaker 1: Actually, that's not bad?

1046
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: Say that again?

1047
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:07,559
Speaker 3: The one that's the ones that are bolded.

1048
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,039
Speaker 6: I'm kind of okay with that. It might be me

1049
00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:12,440
who's getting a little stuck up on like we gotta

1050
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,039
gets evil too, and you're right, there's a good reason too.

1051
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 2: But let's let's cut in. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, Mike,

1052
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,480
I love dead Space and scared the crap out of me.

1053
00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:29,199
I had to wrink it twice. Are we cool cutting

1054
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:29,679
dead space?

1055
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,199
Speaker 6: Dead Space? I do think it's maybe phobia? Are seven

1056
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,079
for that last spot?

1057
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,159
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's do a quick recap. Currently, current locks

1058
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,840
for sure are he one, sound Hill one p T

1059
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:49,599
and fighting for that fourth slot is Resident Evil seven.

1060
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,519
In fasmophobia, I think it's seven.

1061
00:47:55,679 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 6: One thing is like, I think seven is a very

1062
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:02,559
again up. It's directly inspired by PT already and it's

1063
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:05,000
why we got that. It's a good thing. If fasmophobia

1064
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:11,119
is representing something very different on this list, the multipoer, I.

1065
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:15,079
Speaker 3: Could I agree with what Mike's saying to like, if

1066
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,039
we do go already seven, the way I would feel

1067
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:19,199
good about it is like, yeah, PTE started it, and

1068
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,719
Receival seven sort of cemented as like this is how

1069
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,000
you do the scariest kind of game right now. And

1070
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:26,039
so it's like there's a lineage there that I'm okay with,

1071
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:27,440
like representing on here.

1072
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: Then cut seven. I do think.

1073
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 3: I think that, Like, for if I was like, legitimately

1074
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,440
gonna go carve something into a mountain, I would not

1075
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:38,079
put ARI seven up there because we already have ARI

1076
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,480
one and I would put fasmophobia. But we're not doing that,

1077
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,400
and so I'm like that's why I'm like, I could

1078
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:43,880
go either way.

1079
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:46,599
Speaker 6: We're not cutting I see people's child. I'll just cut

1080
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:47,199
resivule one.

1081
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: No, no, again.

1082
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 6: It's it's not specifically just what's the scariest game ever,

1083
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,679
it's the Mount Rushmore scary.

1084
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:57,159
Speaker 3: Is George Washington. George Washing is not the best president.

1085
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 6: You don't cut George Washington.

1086
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,119
Speaker 2: Speak for yourself. Here's great songs in Hamilton.

1087
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,039
Speaker 6: George Washington.

1088
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:08,119
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I didn't know that. Honestly, didn't know that.

1089
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:12,679
Speaker 6: He was like, okay, okay, if Tom could have heard that.

1090
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:17,119
Speaker 2: He was like the thirdly. Okay, fine, but.

1091
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:18,519
Speaker 3: It doesn't look like George Washington.

1092
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,119
Speaker 6: Oh oh did you not have the white wig? I

1093
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:22,920
bet I was looking for that nobody.

1094
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was played by a man of color.

1095
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 6: Yes, Oh, I don't know that everybody is played by

1096
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,400
a man of color in that Yep.

1097
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,639
Speaker 1: I like I said, I wasn't really paying attention to it.

1098
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,519
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, the floor seven put fast mophobia.

1099
00:49:41,559 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 2: Let's just do it. Say that again.

1100
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: Let's cut recival seven. Just do fast mophobia. Let's just

1101
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,639
do it, Dan, I know you really wanted to recival seven,

1102
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:49,880
but we have Resident Evil up there already. I think

1103
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,480
it's fast mophobia as.

1104
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: Long as I'm on record saying I disagree. But it's

1105
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,000
not like a wild thing. I think pastmophobia is very good.

1106
00:49:57,159 --> 00:49:58,960
It does, and I understand where you're coming from.

1107
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, we have done it.

1108
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,119
Our hands are clean, there's no blood, no knives had

1109
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:10,480
to be brought out. We had a civil discussion amongst friends.

1110
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,719
Giant Bomb has crowned the mount rushmore of scary games

1111
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:18,440
we have, Uh, we want to go descending order. I'll

1112
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,199
take the next one grub Dan, then Mike got I

1113
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,760
don't have a doc open, but sure, well you say

1114
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,239
pasmophobia after Dan?

1115
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:29,639
Speaker 6: All right, just well, okay when you speak to me,

1116
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,360
it's stop on my foot.

1117
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: Johnson, all right, the Giant Bomb's Mount rushmore Scary games.

1118
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:41,320
Is Resident Evil one Silent Hill.

1119
00:50:41,199 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: One Resident Evil seven?

1120
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:47,039
Speaker 2: No, no, you have the dock in front of you.

1121
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,119
Speaker 1: Yeahsident is wrong pt.

1122
00:50:52,320 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: BT okay and Mike fasm phobia. Yeah, we did it, folks,

1123
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,519
And we did another podcast and we are complete with

1124
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,639
another week in the books. Folks, Extra life coming at

1125
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:14,760
you next weekend. Stay tuned, peep your peepers. A lot

1126
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,480
a lot of fun things planned GB Midwest. We're gonna

1127
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:22,159
have a good time, a lot of you're gonna have

1128
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:25,760
a ball. Maybe they'll have a little Astrobot Invitational in

1129
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,320
person all on Dan's account.

1130
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:30,039
Speaker 6: Dan wins that crew is gonna be in this house.

1131
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, folks, anything else you want to plug check

1132
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,840
out do or something.

1133
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,079
Speaker 6: No, have a good weekend. Do Halloween stuff.

1134
00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, there we go, folks. Have a good

1135
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,920
weekend From everyone here at Giant bomb dot com.

1136
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,199
Speaker 6: We love you, We care about you.

1137
00:51:47,639 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: Stay safe if you're celebrating Halloween this weekend. Uh, and

1138
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:57,320
I don't know the seal.

1139
00:51:59,159 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: Your guess you could do that.

1140
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: Wave?

1141
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 6: Do I have hyper recording, hyperc hyper recording, final recording

1142
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:23,639
bucket fist?

1143
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: Whoa dog? Boost?

1144
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:26,039
Speaker 3: All right?

1145
00:52:26,119 --> 00:52:27,599
Speaker 2: I have time dot gov up?

1146
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.

1147
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:34,159
Speaker 3: I will momentary check shot Baggler for shooting not no,

1148
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,400
we switched over correct.

1149
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: Feel like he's it's like been two or three dump

1150
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,880
trucks since Shreyer was on BombCast.

1151
00:52:41,159 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: I think he's probably just been going in time. That is,

1152
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,039
I think he just noticed it the first time. This time,

1153
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:46,199
he's really unobservant.

1154
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's my big complain about him, is how

1155
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,719
I'm observed he is.

1156
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:54,599
Speaker 2: Okay, you all ready to clap and beep?

1157
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: Yes?

1158
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I would love to. All right, let's do that

1159
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,039
at zero five and ten.

1160
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 3: Oh now, if anyone wants to get a screenshot of

1161
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,119
me panicking, because I said I was ready and I wasn't.

1162
00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:17,960
I lost track of where Time dot gov was on

1163
00:53:18,039 --> 00:53:20,360
my screen the second he says zero five and ten,

1164
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:22,519
see what my face looked like. That's me panicking.

1165
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: Please send that to me. Please send that to me.

1166
00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:27,559
Speaker 3: It might look like my normal face honestly, I don't know.

1167
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: You're always panicking. We're always very much. Yeah, yeah, such

1168
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,760
a worry wart right, let me just change the header.

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It kind of hurts.

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Speaker 6: I wonder if it's still the blood beer drink hurt

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your eyes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mine eyes are. That's an explainable phenomenon, the blood

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beer thing. I watched your podcast last night. It just

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seems like he had a weird tasting beer.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 6: I mean I've had the beer, the metallic taste, and

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you can imagine how metal taste sometimes gets into beers

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if you done a factory tour. Yeah, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh, okay, Layers, let's food to block. Let me YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I gotta just let them. Let them take

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it easy. I have earned a rest.

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Speaker 6: Close my eyes the entire time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good podcast, and people love that.

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Speaker 1: I mean you who would know times. I have to

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get up for the half marathon tomorrow. I want to

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get out of here quick, Dan, I should probably not.

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Oh no, no, it's not about that. I got plenty

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of time.

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Speaker 2: I just tonight right after this, Yeah all right? Uh

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started YouTube started to go.

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Speaker 6: Crazy at this folloween party tomorrow, because sometimes you can

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go crazy.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow will go crazy.

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Speaker 3: I tried so hard to listen to cohost story. This

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I know, not just I'm carrying around the guilt is

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what I'm doing. That story went on, Okay, still feel guilty,

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I'm not guiltful.

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Speaker 2: I'm not and I can't be part of this. I

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cannot be part of this.

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Speaker 3: Neither coming up, he said, it coming up in three.

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Speaker 2: What I don't coming up in three?

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Speaker 6: Two,