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<v Speaker 1>At a book in.

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<v Speaker 2>Tonight's guest is Adam. Adam, Welcome to the show. Hello Vic,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you getting things done? As long as I

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<v Speaker 2>can say that, then it can't be too bad. How

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<v Speaker 2>about yourself, I'm doing fine. Lake is good well, as

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<v Speaker 2>long as you can say that, that's a good thing. Adam,

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<v Speaker 2>please give us a brief bio in yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thirty four years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I am from the Island Province of Newfoundland, Canada. I

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<v Speaker 1>do prospecting for a living, so I spend a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time in the woods, so I like go with him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only ever me and my dog, and we go

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<v Speaker 1>for tens of kilometers out sometimes, and I love spending

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<v Speaker 1>time in the nature and being by myself in nature

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<v Speaker 1>and everything about it. Really, i had two kids thirteens now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been moving around all over the island the best,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, fifteen years, just bouncing around from place

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<v Speaker 1>to place depending on where I'm prospecting at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've seen a lot of the island.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen a lot of nature and stuff, so nothing

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<v Speaker 1>really ever surprises me with the place I'm from. The

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<v Speaker 1>area i'm from is all Pity Harbor and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of old history here. We were one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first Don't settlements in all North America. It was settled

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<v Speaker 1>in sixteen hundreds roughly, and we have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that I never really bade attention before until I've

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<v Speaker 1>had my first encounter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's my bio.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny, Like I told you the first time we spoke,

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<v Speaker 2>even your new places are older than our old places.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, well they're pretty old. Everything's all out

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<v Speaker 1>this way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that just means a lot of good history. You

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<v Speaker 2>had your first dog me an encounter about ten or

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<v Speaker 2>eleven years ago, Adam in a town called tor Bay

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<v Speaker 2>in Newfoundland.

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<v Speaker 1>There.

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<v Speaker 2>What can you tell us about the place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's out in a road called Valeine Line, And when

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<v Speaker 1>I first moved there, it was starting to get developed.

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<v Speaker 1>The road is pretty barren, like say, probably even two

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<v Speaker 1>years prior before I moved to the area. Just picture

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<v Speaker 1>our road cutting straight through the woods, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, and just people started putting houses on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a subdivision getting built when my first

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<v Speaker 1>encounter happened. So I'm not entirely sure that had something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with deciding, but it's quite a place like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a place that like you would often see moose,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's in the middle of everything. So it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>strange to see a moose out that way?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it that way? Across all of Newfoundland were pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much you got outside and at any time you could

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<v Speaker 2>almost bump into a moose or or only certain areas

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<v Speaker 2>of Newfoundland.

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<v Speaker 1>Certain areas I would say, the area that I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>right now, pity, however, it's it's really hilly, so like

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<v Speaker 1>unless you're up on top of the hills, up further

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<v Speaker 1>away from the ocean, your chances are seeing like a

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<v Speaker 1>moose or something you might but not usually in the

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<v Speaker 1>general area that I'm in now, like, but out towards

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<v Speaker 1>Bottling Line that way where I had my first encounter.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it's very like like you're in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere up that way. But in Pitty Harbor, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>small nick community, so like everybody knows everybody, and all

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<v Speaker 1>the houses are like bunched together.

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<v Speaker 3>But there is a lot of wilderness down here.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that, like it's just like if you

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<v Speaker 1>take a bunch of houses and put them in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of nowhere, and then that's how you get our communities,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's like nothing missing between the communities, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty dea slate place.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like a great dogman habitat to me, no wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>After you had that first encounter, it seemed like it

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<v Speaker 2>was almost like the wheel came off. You started to

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<v Speaker 2>have experience after experience with dog men. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>you were marked somehow?

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest with you, I think I might have,

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<v Speaker 1>like without like knowing it at the time, like because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been out in the wood since, like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen years old, like I said, I'm thirty four now,

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<v Speaker 1>so a long in the woods, and I think like

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<v Speaker 1>I might have like did something or I might have

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<v Speaker 1>upset him in his natural place out when I was

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<v Speaker 1>out there doing something like it could have been like

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<v Speaker 1>I go when I prospect, like I go break up minerals,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I need to get a specimen tested in

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<v Speaker 1>the lab, I had to take something back with me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not sure if it was, like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it could be something as simple as

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<v Speaker 1>me taking a rock that blind to him. It could

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<v Speaker 1>have been something to blind to him, or I could

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<v Speaker 1>have just did something out one day in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. But I know that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something to it because ever since that day it's

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<v Speaker 3>been constant, right like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been. It's a bit unnerving because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what I did to start at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll bet it has been a nerving It's been

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<v Speaker 2>one experience after the next. Unfortunately, you said that you're

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<v Speaker 2>a prospector what do you prospect for?

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<v Speaker 1>In?

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<v Speaker 2>How long have you done that?

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<v Speaker 1>I've been prospecting now too well career eras since I

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<v Speaker 1>was I'm going to say twenty three. I've been rock

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<v Speaker 1>counting as a hobby since I was a kid. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I've only started getting into it like financially, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably twenty three or twenty like twenty two or.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty three, I think I was, and I started actually

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<v Speaker 1>doing it to make money.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here in New Finland. Area I'm in now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not my favorite area for it because I'm only

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<v Speaker 1>getting jasper agates, different type of heel and stones basically

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<v Speaker 1>right it's coming in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a glacial till site.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to claim on down here, but in Gander

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<v Speaker 1>I was working goal claims. We get gold. It comes

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<v Speaker 1>up from the ground in in courts veins, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like you see on TV, like go to the

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<v Speaker 1>river and paying for gold or anything like that. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>you do about that way, you gotta have every equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>like everything you're using rosas and drills and taking core

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<v Speaker 1>samples and stuff like that. There's a really a really

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<v Speaker 1>big goal boom in a central Newfoundland right now, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like a lot of really hard work. How

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<v Speaker 2>hard is it for you to do that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>work though? Knowing what could be watching you at any

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<v Speaker 2>time from the shadows.

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<v Speaker 1>It's affected me to the point right now, Like before

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<v Speaker 1>I had this encounter, like my first, well it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>my first. It was the second one that really did

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<v Speaker 1>it for me. But like I never thought of nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about it after my very first one, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>used to do my own thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just go do my own thing. The only

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<v Speaker 3>thing I ever really worried about is.

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<v Speaker 1>Moose, because we have moose here, and we have black beer,

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<v Speaker 1>some links in, some Bbcat and every now and again

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<v Speaker 1>a calio. Nothing really big that I'm scared of. Scared of,

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<v Speaker 1>right like more scared of than moose than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always took my dog with me. Dog's always

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<v Speaker 1>been with me, because you're not allowed to use fire

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<v Speaker 1>armble unless you're a hunter, you're not allowed to have

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<v Speaker 1>a fire answer, So I don't do any hunting. So

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<v Speaker 1>I only ever took beer, mace or something with me

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But I never really thought about it until

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<v Speaker 1>my second encounter, and after that, I do not go

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<v Speaker 1>more than like two kilometers out, Like there's a cut

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<v Speaker 1>off point for me now, whereas like if that can

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<v Speaker 1>do bad happen down too far away? Well, saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>I always have a list before I leave, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a checklist to like different type of gear I take

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<v Speaker 1>with me. I take satellite phoneme or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I take food, I take extra food, I take brain gear.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the weather before I leave. I tell

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<v Speaker 1>people where I'm going and when to expect me back,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I'm not back at a certain time then

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. But like I said, ever since the

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<v Speaker 1>second encounter, it hasn't been the same. I haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>doing what I love to do anymore, right, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely affected me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm sure these experiences have. Yeah, that's totally normal.

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<v Speaker 2>So sorry to hear that's the key though. All right, Adam,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a lot to tell us about. Please tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about your encounters. Now give us ever last detail

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<v Speaker 2>that comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My first encounter took place about ten or eleven years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and Bawlin Line. It was i would say middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. I was out on a patio having

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarette. It's a bad habit, but I was out

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<v Speaker 1>having cigarette and I was just doing my thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking down the driveway. I had a straight

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<v Speaker 1>straight down the driveway. I would say, it's about fifty

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<v Speaker 1>meters down the driveway too.

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<v Speaker 3>Across the road and the woods here is really.

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<v Speaker 1>Thick, like if something was standing in like three feet

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<v Speaker 1>behind the woodline, you wouldn't see it. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how long with stretch, but there's a

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<v Speaker 1>gap between the woodline across the road to my driveway.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was looking down there and a moose, a big,

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<v Speaker 1>full grown bull moose, I think, probably the biggest one

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<v Speaker 1>I ever seen. It came running and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>guess it like from the size of the area that

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<v Speaker 1>ran through. It might have took twenty steps maybe till

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<v Speaker 1>it was gone. But like I was thinking myself at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, it's strange because we like, why is it running?

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<v Speaker 1>I never seen a moose running like that before in

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<v Speaker 1>my life unless there was a car or something. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's no cars. And then like I was, I never

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<v Speaker 1>had the thought process. And I seen a big eat

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<v Speaker 1>mass and it leaked from one end, but from one

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the meadow to the opposite side. After

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<v Speaker 1>the moose. It didn't touch the ground, not once. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I was telling Vick, I didn't see no. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see the front or the rare pause. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a head and a tail. The head I couldn't like,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, it happened that fast. I could not

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<v Speaker 1>pick out any details I've seen a head. The head

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<v Speaker 1>was really big, I all that, and it looked unproportionalized,

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<v Speaker 1>like the head from the rest of its body.

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<v Speaker 3>And it had a really long, fluffy tail.

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<v Speaker 1>And the animal was completely white, like I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>a wild animal that was white be so clean.

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<v Speaker 3>But like it happened in a blink of and eye.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had to turn my head to look at

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<v Speaker 1>my door behind me and look back, I wouldn't even unnoticed.

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<v Speaker 1>After that sighting, I stayed around on my front deck

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<v Speaker 1>and waged it around because I was going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it never ever did come back.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was later that night we were getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go to bed, or we might have been been

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<v Speaker 1>in bit. We're lying down or something, me and my

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<v Speaker 1>like we thought somebody was out there, so we went

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<v Speaker 1>And this is funny because it happened to us like

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<v Speaker 1>we did not we did not correlate the what I

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<v Speaker 1>even heard anybody talk about a bigfoot of anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in my province, so that that thought was in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of my mind, like wasn't even there. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the window tapping continued on and off for I would

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't every night thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like it happened one night and then two

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<v Speaker 1>or three nights after that happened again. It was always

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<v Speaker 1>but it was always like you go check one window,

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<v Speaker 3>But that continued the whole time we were there. So

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<v Speaker 3>we moved.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a family member back home back in Petty

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<v Speaker 1>Harbor gets sick, so I wanted to move back home

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<v Speaker 1>and help take care of them. And when I moved back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're live in Okay, so Pitty However, my hometown Pitty Horever.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually college. Full name is Pitty Harbor.

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<v Speaker 1>Magis the reason it is called that is there's a

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<v Speaker 1>hill in between the community from one in the community to.

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<v Speaker 3>Where I live.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, my mom lives in the Pity Harbor section and

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<v Speaker 1>I live in the max Co section. I'd never lived

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<v Speaker 1>down in that section before in my life, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were pretty happy to be back home. And we were

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<v Speaker 1>there for a while. We never got no taps, not

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, and then I think one random night

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<v Speaker 1>again started getting window taps. And at the time still

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't put two and two together. And this one

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<v Speaker 1>the scarier things that happened to me. Uh, me and

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<v Speaker 1>my ex girlfriend. We were lying down to sleep where

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<v Speaker 1>we were in bit of sleep, and I got a

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<v Speaker 1>not really like a growly type of dog, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard him growl really a couple of times. This

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<v Speaker 1>one night he woke us up and he was growling,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's grown back. And the place that we were

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<v Speaker 1>living I'm still living in like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Basement half of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>So my bed is up against the wall, but the

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<v Speaker 1>window is i'd say, halfway up the wall, so like

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<v Speaker 1>you're it was behind us. So we woke up and

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<v Speaker 1>he was groundling, but he was grounding looking at us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were like, he's looking at us, grounding, And

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<v Speaker 1>then we realized he was groundling at something behind us

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<v Speaker 1>in the window, and both of us i think, looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, and we all we can come

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. When we stopped to talk about it afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a bit like my window is probably four fat

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<v Speaker 1>wide and four feet long, probably say, and this head

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<v Speaker 1>was almost a whole circle, like the whole window almost

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<v Speaker 1>it came in almost like a bluff charge, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking it has pretty good reflexes because it hit my window.

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<v Speaker 1>It hit my window, and I thought it was common

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<v Speaker 1>through the window, but it's nosehated. When it's nose d

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<v Speaker 1>it backed up and it was almost like a snake strike.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened that fast. It was like it if you

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<v Speaker 1>blink it would miss it. And that was just gone.

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<v Speaker 1>So that experience scared us pretty bad. I took a

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<v Speaker 1>lot convincing not to move out of there. To my

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<v Speaker 1>ex we ended up switching. Well, my place got two bedrooms,

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<v Speaker 1>one in the front, one in the back, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>staying where our bedroom was in the back of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Next morning we moved to the front of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Needs to stay and and it's just that was the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I had an experience in pity. However, now

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<v Speaker 1>the window tapping continued, continued the whole time. Were still

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<v Speaker 1>to day. I still don't know what's up with the

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<v Speaker 1>window tapping, but I would say, well, five years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a really good job offer to go work

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<v Speaker 1>out go on mine in Ganner, And while I was

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<v Speaker 1>out there, I was going to try to get a claimmate,

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<v Speaker 1>steak a claim for myself, and I ended up doing

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<v Speaker 1>that and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was going good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like everything was going perfect for us for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, and like we never had no tap thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'll be like we were renting the apartment I

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<v Speaker 1>had in pity however, and still renting one out of

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<v Speaker 1>Gander so I can come back and forth and help

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<v Speaker 1>my sick family member. So I was out there about

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<v Speaker 1>five months now, and just one morning I woke up

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<v Speaker 1>and I was pretty bored. I had nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say it was probably like six thirty or something

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<v Speaker 1>when I woke up, and I already had to date

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<v Speaker 1>it for yuh. Because whenever I go to go prospect

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<v Speaker 1>and all always the day before go online American on

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<v Speaker 1>the mad shirt. Well, first of I'll searching on a

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<v Speaker 1>map find a good area. I uses Google Maps mixed

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<v Speaker 1>with topographical maps to find good areas a prospect. So

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<v Speaker 1>I found this one area and it was at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of a hill an old ski resort. The ski

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<v Speaker 1>resort was banded, I believe in the eighties. So I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to one of the locals out there and he

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<v Speaker 1>said it closed down in the eighties. So that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. Scne not from the areas about five hour

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<v Speaker 1>drive from here. So this one morning I got off

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<v Speaker 1>and I got ready and got on my gear together.

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<v Speaker 1>And my house was the one that I was staying

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<v Speaker 1>at the time in Gander, was right next to a

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<v Speaker 1>highway at four Lane Highway, and the area that I

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<v Speaker 1>had planned on prospect was across the Hollyway. In about

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<v Speaker 1>five minute walk up the street, up the highway and

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<v Speaker 1>you would hit a tourist information booth.

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<v Speaker 3>A tourist information booth was in.

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<v Speaker 1>The air general area where the ski resort lodge would

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<v Speaker 1>have been before the tour down. So there's a gate

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<v Speaker 1>behind the tourist informations place and the hikers and people

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<v Speaker 1>uses all the old ski routes for hiking trails and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. So the area that I needed to get

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<v Speaker 1>to was at the bottom of the hill. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how long the hill is. I should have

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<v Speaker 1>looked up, but I think it's like two or three

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<v Speaker 1>kilometers from top to bottom. It's not like a steep,

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<v Speaker 1>steep hill. It's more of a long hill than anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And the area chose down by a lake, like a

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<v Speaker 1>big joint lake called Gander Lake. And I was down

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<v Speaker 1>there and doing my thing like I use a rock

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<v Speaker 1>hammer when I'm breaking rocks open, and certain rocks like

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<v Speaker 1>you can feel when you pick them up at how

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<v Speaker 1>heavy they are, and like you can almost tell they

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm not going to be able to break this

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<v Speaker 1>one open, but.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to try to anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to rock and I hit a four times,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think after the fourth time, I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not even like sometimes I'm after hitting rocks, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>hurting my elbows. So I'm like, now I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lay that down. It's not worth it. So as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I laid it down, I heard the exact same noise,

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<v Speaker 1>well it sounded to me the exact same noise is

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<v Speaker 1>what I just made with the rock camer hitting the rock.

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<v Speaker 1>It would make a high pitch ting sound like ding

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<v Speaker 1>ding when it would hit a rock that it couldn't break.

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<v Speaker 3>And I heard in response four taps back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I knew at this point that I always at

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<v Speaker 1>the Battlement Hill by myself because the parking lot there

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<v Speaker 1>was no other hikers vehicles there, and I would have

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<v Speaker 1>seen anybody if they had come down that area. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I did like watch beef with shows and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like growing up, and I've heard like wood knocks and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, but I've never heard I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be a thing. I've never heard it like

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<v Speaker 1>rocks getting plank together. But it sounded like rocks getting

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<v Speaker 1>plank together, but like with a middle pin to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that started just startled me, right, So I turned

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<v Speaker 1>around to look at my dog to see if he

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<v Speaker 1>was out right. And he will always like he's actually

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<v Speaker 1>saved me from like bobcats and stuff, not like actually

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<v Speaker 1>foot of bobcat out, but like he'll bark and let

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<v Speaker 1>me notice something there, and then I'll look and see

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<v Speaker 1>about getting like, okay, thanks, I didn't know that was

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<v Speaker 1>dear the thing. You know, we'll move on, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>saying with moves and other stuff to help move with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But this one time, he wasn't parking, he wasn't doing

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<v Speaker 1>the growl and nothing. He was opposite I was faced

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<v Speaker 1>one way, he was opposite direction of me, probably would

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<v Speaker 1>have been the left hand, and he was just laid

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<v Speaker 1>there and he was just crying like I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>him do that. It's almost like he just submitted whatever

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<v Speaker 1>was there. I didn't want to have nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with it. You just you know, I'm just gonna lie

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<v Speaker 1>down and deal with you. Solid did, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>I heard a branch break, a really big branch. I

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like somebody took a tree and broke it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, enough of this doesn't take much to

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<v Speaker 1>scare of me. Like so I'm out of the wool.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially you're out in the woods for so long. He

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<v Speaker 1>knows what you hear like. You're used to the sounds right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like stuff that I was hearing down there that morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I was never heard before the whole time I've been

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<v Speaker 1>out in the woods over the years. So I just said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do this. We're gonna leave.

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<v Speaker 1>So Iron tied him as quick as I could, and

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<v Speaker 1>we started walking up the path the way we came.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't very long we were on the path. I

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<v Speaker 1>started hearing something on the left hand side of me.

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<v Speaker 1>And the path is only break I'm not joking with you,

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<v Speaker 1>probably five six feet wide, if that, maybe possibly even four.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be wide ski trails, but they all

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<v Speaker 1>got overgrown, I was told. But from the left hand

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<v Speaker 1>side I was hearing walking and I would walk faster,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I would walk faster, it got faster but

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't seem like it was getting fast, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem like it was using any effort. And then that's

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<v Speaker 1>when rocks started getting thrown at us, well not me,

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<v Speaker 1>but my dog, and like not small rocks, like rocks

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<v Speaker 1>the size of my head, and like it kept happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just took off as fast as I could,

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<v Speaker 1>and this thing, whatever it was, was on the left

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<v Speaker 1>hand side of me. It followed me up the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>flicking rocks, and it didn't and it didn't like it, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't seem to stop to pick up the rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a strange thing, like when thinking I'd stopped and

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<v Speaker 1>look for a rock to throw, noe, this thing would

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<v Speaker 1>just followed me the whole way up and throw rocks.

425
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<v Speaker 1>And it discontinued about three quarters the whole way up

426
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.759
<v Speaker 1>the up the hill and till I just about seeing

427
00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>the Tourist Information Center again when I remember in my

428
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.200
<v Speaker 1>mom seeing the corner of it. And as soon as

429
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:20.119
<v Speaker 1>I seen it, it just stopped, just instantly stopped. I

430
00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:23.039
<v Speaker 1>never heard nothing chasing me. No more rocks got thrown,

431
00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:26.279
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't stop. I did not stop. I kept

432
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:31.400
<v Speaker 1>running and I ran home and I think my girlfriend

433
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>at the time, she wasn't home, so as I got home,

434
00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and I had all this built up energy, like looking

435
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:37.640
<v Speaker 1>at the windows, like did it follow me?

436
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Like all this other stuff.

437
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:44.240
<v Speaker 1>And she eventually got home and I told her about it,

438
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:47.039
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I think I had a big foot experience.

439
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Not never ever heard of the dog man or anything

440
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:55.519
<v Speaker 1>like that. And being a normal person, you know, she's

441
00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:58.079
<v Speaker 1>just gonna laugh and be like you, that didn't happen yet,

442
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:03.799
<v Speaker 1>so she didn't believe me, right, And uh, I think

443
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 1>it was like a couple of days after that, the

444
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>windows started tapping started again.

445
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:11.559
<v Speaker 3>And my theory with the window tapping.

446
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Is because the first time we moved, it took a

447
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:19.079
<v Speaker 1>little wall for the tapping to start to start up again.

448
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:23.160
<v Speaker 1>And the same time, just when I moved five hours away,

449
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 1>which is a really long job, it took like months

450
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:29.799
<v Speaker 1>for the tapping to start. And I'm thinking the months

451
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:33.839
<v Speaker 1>in between or weeks, however long it was, I'm thinking,

452
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:35.759
<v Speaker 1>that's how long it took me took them to find

453
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>me again. But I'm after moving from literally Ardess, you

454
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:43.880
<v Speaker 1>can go east to the middle of the island, and

455
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:47.039
<v Speaker 1>I found me. Man, it might have took a long time,

456
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:51.160
<v Speaker 1>but it found me. But uh so.

457
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Uh sometime later.

458
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:58.559
<v Speaker 1>I have no goog with like remembered dates and stuff

459
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>because I apologize. But sometime later, I was sitting down

460
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>on my computer. I run a rock identification group on Facebook.

461
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Like somebody posts the rock on Facebook and I me

462
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and a couple of moderators we try to help identify

463
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>through pictures and we asked them to do tests and stuff.

464
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>But I was on moderating the group that morning and

465
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I had my front window opening, and it was a beautiful,

466
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:27.880
<v Speaker 1>beautiful morning man, and there was no traffic. There's nobody

467
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>open this place. I lived in Gander. It was next

468
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to like, and there's not a big town at all.

469
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 1>It was a pretty small town. But the spot that

470
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 1>I was living in it was almost you would say,

471
00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:43.599
<v Speaker 1>like a subdivision area, like there was houses around. But

472
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 1>this one morning when I had I think it was

473
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>a couple minutes after opening the window, I set back

474
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>down the computer and I heard the most ungodly, loudest

475
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 1>sound I ever heard in my life. It scared me

476
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>so at first, like I almost fell out of the chair.

477
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>It woke my my my ex up. She Bryant woke up,

478
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 1>ran upstairs, and it continued for about five or six minutes.

479
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.759
<v Speaker 1>And I try to make the noise but I don't

480
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>want to sound silly or nothing. But after like the

481
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:26.519
<v Speaker 1>initial scare, it sounded like it was mourning something or

482
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>it was crying. It was like, it's so strange, like

483
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>if you like, I've never seen a book, like we

484
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>had wolves here apparently one hundred years ago, but they

485
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>all got killed off. Now there's apparently there's some sightings

486
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:43.559
<v Speaker 1>on the west of the island. But I've never seen

487
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the whole time that ben Woods. Have never heard nothing,

488
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.279
<v Speaker 1>never seen nothing, nothing like it, Like if you see

489
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.759
<v Speaker 1>like a movie like you it makes a wolf sound

490
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>like a demonic sound, and like I don't know how

491
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>to explain it, that's how it sounds. But it sounded

492
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>sad at the same time, like after it getting scared first,

493
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>it just sounded sad. And even even my ex girlfriend

494
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.599
<v Speaker 1>she said, it sounds sad. It sounds like it's hurd.

495
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like it's hurd or it's crying or something. But

496
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I could tell where the sound was coming from. It

497
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 1>sounded like it was coming from like let's say, like

498
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>a T shape and right so like I lived on.

499
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 3>That's hard to explain. Actually I can tell which house.

500
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 1>It was coming from the woods behind a certain house,

501
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.119
<v Speaker 1>but the sound sounded like it was sitting in my

502
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>front yard. It sounded like it's head was in my window,

503
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>like yelling.

504
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:31.079
<v Speaker 3>That's how loud.

505
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:34.119
<v Speaker 1>It was like voidbrat yet like kind of inside just

506
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>listening to it.

507
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:41.559
<v Speaker 3>So after that happened, I started going on.

508
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>YouTube to see if I can find the sound I

509
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>can compare it to. And it took me a while actually,

510
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:51.839
<v Speaker 1>and then after a while I did find a video.

511
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 1>I think it was called Strange Noises Heard in Canadian Woods.

512
00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what it's called, and it's exact same noise.

513
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>And I know it's exactly the same noise because when

514
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.319
<v Speaker 1>I was listening to the video, I turned it up

515
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>loud so I can hear it more clearly.

516
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>And when I did, my ex at the time, she

517
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 3>came running back upstairs. She said, it's the back, Is

518
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:15.680
<v Speaker 3>it back? Is it back?

519
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, yeah, that's the same noise I heard, right,

520
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:20.799
<v Speaker 1>But it sounded like I said, it sounded like it

521
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 1>was crying.

522
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.640
<v Speaker 3>That's the only vocal I ever got from them.

523
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard them other than that, just like the

524
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.279
<v Speaker 1>only vocal I got it from it, But.

525
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:37.599
<v Speaker 3>Was it for that day? This next one? This is

526
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:39.160
<v Speaker 3>why we moved.

527
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Back home from Gander. One night, I was on computer

528
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and after hearing that video and realizing it was the

529
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>same noise, I think I was reading through the comments

530
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 1>or something, and that's how I came across dog Man.

531
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Was through that video, and I think I was watching

532
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>one of the Vig's videos, I think at the time,

533
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 1>because I was like interested, and I'm like, okay something.

534
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Other people are singing what I'm singing, so I'm not

535
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:11.759
<v Speaker 1>going crazy, I don't think. And I was watching videos

536
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and my girlfriend at the time, she would always take

537
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>her kid and walk up the road to her friend's house.

538
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Her friend's house maybe ten houses up the road, not

539
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.839
<v Speaker 1>very fair, like five minute walk probably, So I was

540
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 1>waiting home for them to come back down from her

541
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>kid playing with her friend's kids, and I was chilling.

542
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.559
<v Speaker 3>The next thing, he knows I.

543
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Here screaming, and I don't realize it's her screaming, so

544
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god. So I runs out the

545
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 1>door and like as I'm running out the door, I'm

546
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>running out the driveway and up road to meet her.

547
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>She's like, it's there, stare stairs there. I'm like, what's there.

548
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 3>She's like a big wolf, a huge wolf. I'm like,

549
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 3>what are you talking about? A huge wolf?

550
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And like I was scanning the area trying to find it,

551
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and now I've seen it, and it.

552
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:02.799
<v Speaker 3>Was a cross the road. I'd say probably.

553
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many houses up from me at

554
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>the time, like five or six houses off from us,

555
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Like each house is probably ten feet from each other.

556
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>And this thing, it's funny at first. It was funny

557
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 1>at first because I was laughing. I was like, you

558
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.599
<v Speaker 1>kidding me? Do you see that? And like I try

559
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.319
<v Speaker 1>not to use her name. Now I will say her

560
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 1>name is Nicole. So it's like, did you see that, Nicole?

561
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.079
<v Speaker 1>And she was like, yeses it?

562
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:34.440
<v Speaker 3>And the thing.

563
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Now, this thing is all whife and it's avoiding the

564
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 1>street lights.

565
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 4>Crawling on all fours almost like an army chop, and

566
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:51.359
<v Speaker 4>it's crawling around the corners of the houses, avoiding the light,

567
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.079
<v Speaker 4>and it's thinking that it's not being seen.

568
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:55.079
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that it realized that it was.

569
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 1>It knew it was our wife, and I could see

570
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>it like and it was that white vic like that

571
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>when the moon hit it, it's almost like a blue

572
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.519
<v Speaker 1>shine ameopies for type thing.

573
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:09.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it was lights from a house that.

574
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Did that or what, but there was almost like a

575
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 1>blue shine came out. And he continued doing this the

576
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>whole like the whole way down until about two houses

577
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:21.119
<v Speaker 1>across from us.

578
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 3>And when he got about it, like I said, two

579
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 3>houses across.

580
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 1>From us, we came to a corner and it would

581
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>like if you were facing the opposite side of the

582
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.759
<v Speaker 1>road from you and looking at a house on the

583
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>left side of that house, the corner, the front corner,

584
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:40.079
<v Speaker 1>and the left hands it got the deer, and I

585
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>thought up until him then it was just a giant,

586
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:51.839
<v Speaker 1>huge wolf and it stood up. It literally stood up

587
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 1>and put its hand on the corner of the house

588
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:02.799
<v Speaker 1>and we just like we was speechless when this happened.

589
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.559
<v Speaker 1>I could see details on it this time. I got

590
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>a good look at him this time, and he had

591
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>like we got no raccoons or nothing here so like,

592
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.039
<v Speaker 1>but I'm after seeing video of the raccoons and stuff.

593
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:20.679
<v Speaker 1>I had really long fingers, but he had a human hand,

594
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>had a human hand, but the fingers were really long.

595
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be able to tell you the color of

596
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:29.039
<v Speaker 1>his nails or nothing, because it was dark and still

597
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:32.760
<v Speaker 1>a bit fair away, but I could see that he

598
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.679
<v Speaker 1>had like really muscly long like it was almost like

599
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 1>it even if he hunched over a little bit, it

600
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>was almost like as if his fingers would just be

601
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 1>barely off the ground. And he had really his head

602
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 1>was huge. His head was huge's almost like cartoony looking right,

603
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 1>like way bigger than he said. I had to pre

604
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>record him with me and vic I said kind of look,

605
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if any of the viewers no, but

606
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>like there used to be a show to came out

607
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:04.079
<v Speaker 1>and like nine these other leap called street schecks basically

608
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:08.079
<v Speaker 1>like actually like big muscly dudes with giant shark kads,

609
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and that's what it looked like to me. But it

610
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>was a wolf and he's he had really like really

611
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:20.559
<v Speaker 1>pointy teeth, and it had really big like his face

612
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:25.760
<v Speaker 1>was almost like like I'm not gonna say German shepherd

613
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 1>because it was fluffyir and like what the German shepherd's

614
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 1>face would be. It's the same shape as it and

615
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>like almost same like same general structure. I would say,

616
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.639
<v Speaker 1>but its ears. Its ears were like ad normally loan

617
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:44.159
<v Speaker 1>and really pointy and had these like little tussles at

618
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 1>the end of the years. I almost looked like if

619
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.559
<v Speaker 1>you look at a picture of a hour glass, almost

620
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 1>looked like his ears had like I don't know how

621
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to explain, there's like little bits on the ends of

622
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 1>his ears.

623
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.719
<v Speaker 3>It was kind of weird, weird, but that's what I

624
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:00.280
<v Speaker 3>got out of it.

625
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>When I've seen him, Like i'd like I got a

626
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>good view, but it didn't at the same time because

627
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 1>I actually seen him. But as soon as he stood

628
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>up and put his arm on the corner of the house,

629
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it made I don't know if the noise came from

630
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 1>it or the house, because when it stood up, it

631
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>laid its hand on it on the house, and it

632
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 1>made a really loud, creaky noise. I don't know, I

633
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>think because this thing was like had had to be

634
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:32.079
<v Speaker 1>like at least seven or eight feet hole, and it

635
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:34.599
<v Speaker 1>looked like it weighed a lot, so I'm thinking the

636
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.199
<v Speaker 1>corner of the house a lot of pressure went down

637
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 1>it and it made a really loud like cracking, like

638
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>snapping sound.

639
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 3>And when that happened, the.

640
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Light came on and the inside of the house, and

641
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess whoever was in there, I don't know who

642
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>lived there, woke up and they turned the light on,

643
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and when that happened, it looked and then as soon

644
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>as it looked at that, it was just gone. As

645
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:58.199
<v Speaker 1>soon as that was it. But I actually skipped the

646
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:03.039
<v Speaker 1>parrot ahead of myself a bit. There was a time

647
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:06.559
<v Speaker 1>before that when the window started tapping started in Gander.

648
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I seen him once before. I've only ever seen him

649
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:10.119
<v Speaker 3>three times.

650
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>The time that I just explained was the third and

651
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>final time. The second time was we were getting the

652
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:19.559
<v Speaker 1>tapping sound and I got really mad and I went

653
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>out to check. And when I went out and checked,

654
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 1>there was nothing in the back by the windows, and

655
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>so I went to go back in, but I heard

656
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>branches breaking behind me or something.

657
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 3>And this was before I seen him that last time.

658
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I was just telling you guys about when I went

659
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to look, he was standing straight up. At this time,

660
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't compare with Wolf or anything, because I didn't

661
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>see at the head or anything like that. When I looked,

662
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>all I seen was a seminary foot doll figgure with

663
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>a big, long, white fluffy tail. It's almost like a

664
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>fox's tail, like a big, long, fluffy tail. Anyways, its

665
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>just locked into the bush and it just disappeared. That's

666
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>my second time. I've only seen it pretty hot. But

667
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 1>after that experience that she's seen it and even our

668
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.760
<v Speaker 1>kids seen it too, right, So I had enough of

669
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>it at that point, I said, no, I'm not doing

670
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>this no more. We're going back pity Harper. It wasn't

671
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:16.519
<v Speaker 1>very long. I think it was probably two or three

672
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>weeks later. We so I did come back home. I

673
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.679
<v Speaker 1>had a claim out there. I sold my claim. I

674
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't want had nothing to do with the woods really

675
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>affected me, like, like I tell people, like mom my,

676
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>mom says to me all the time, how can you're

677
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.119
<v Speaker 1>not doing your thing no more? Hope you're not talking

678
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 1>about your rocks and all that. I don't have no

679
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 1>enjoy that, And they're like, I can't, like right now,

680
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I go up to go do it, and it's like

681
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>any little noise, any little noise on on edge. Right.

682
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>So we moved back home, and we weren't home very

683
00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:02.639
<v Speaker 1>long and tepping started again after a little while, and

684
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 1>I guess she just got sick of it, and she

685
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:08.199
<v Speaker 1>blamed me for it all and because so I guess

686
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 1>she thought that, like, you know, me paying attention to

687
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>too much, it's cos of it or something.

688
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:14.599
<v Speaker 3>We broke up because of it.

689
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, So I was living at home, this is about

690
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>two years ago now, a year and a half ago,

691
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:26.079
<v Speaker 1>two years maybe, and uh, I've never seen it since

692
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:32.599
<v Speaker 1>that night and gander and moved home. And when I

693
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>was home, I would started getting to pepping on the

694
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>windows at this point done like still happening to this day.

695
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:45.119
<v Speaker 1>But I'll be come accustomed to it, right, So like

696
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.280
<v Speaker 1>sometimes i'd be doing my thing and it could be happening,

697
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'm at the point now I don't even hear it,

698
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>like come accustomed to it, right. But I started getting

699
00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:00.639
<v Speaker 1>whistles really early in the morning, like four five o'clock

700
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, start getting whistles, and like had to

701
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>be outside, like my bedroom had to be because every time,

702
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.079
<v Speaker 1>like my windows are closed and I sleep, I sleep

703
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.559
<v Speaker 1>with my windows closed, even if it's warm. But it

704
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.199
<v Speaker 1>woke me up, and it's like I can try to

705
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>make the sound. It almost sounds like a human almost

706
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:23.079
<v Speaker 1>what I knows is not a human. It's nobody going

707
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to be up at four o'clock in the morning, whistling

708
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:29.199
<v Speaker 1>outside my window and anyway, it's just like it goes

709
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>like a it's like a it's like somebody trying to

710
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:38.360
<v Speaker 1>get your attention. I can't whistle for the late in

711
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:42.280
<v Speaker 1>these area goes, but it sounds like it's coming like

712
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:44.639
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it comes from the front, sometimes it sounds like

713
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:45.559
<v Speaker 1>it's coming from the back.

714
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:49.440
<v Speaker 3>But dog, it's hard to explain.

715
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.559
<v Speaker 1>It sounds it's almost like it's loud when it wakes

716
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:54.599
<v Speaker 1>me up, And as soon as the closer I gets

717
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 1>to the door, it gets quieter, but soon when it

718
00:40:57.639 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>gets to the door gets louder.

719
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to explain.

720
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:03.159
<v Speaker 1>But the only feeling I get from it is it's

721
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to get me out, so trying to get me

722
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 1>to go outside. And that's what started freaking me out

723
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And that only happened to me like

724
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:18.039
<v Speaker 1>since then, probably a handful of dozen times, probably like

725
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>six or seven times, probably maybe a dozen times probably,

726
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:28.519
<v Speaker 1>But uh, the reason I actually got in contact with

727
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:35.679
<v Speaker 1>Vick here lately, I've never had a a counter or

728
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:39.559
<v Speaker 1>experience or anything like that in my hometown. And I've

729
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 1>always figured it was too densely like I wouldn't say

730
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>dense I think there's only like eight hundred people, probably

731
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>not even down here, and I just figured where all

732
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:52.079
<v Speaker 1>the houses were so close together or don't make it

733
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>could happen. But uh, there's a path I use because

734
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>my mom. My mom has cancer and be sick, and

735
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I had to come up and oper with it. And

736
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I come up in the morning. So I usually leave

737
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:09.599
<v Speaker 1>around six thirty in the morning, come up in the

738
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>morning and give her a hand with stuff like go

739
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>go from my wax, my exercise for the morning.

740
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.440
<v Speaker 3>And it usually does the same thing in the evenings.

741
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And here lately every day I go up, I get

742
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 1>about halfway up. Now this path, I think it's like

743
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>all pity Harbor. It's just hills. There's been like no

744
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>flat roads down here. I'll up or down and this

745
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 1>one hill it's like if you go Google map, it'll

746
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>come up as as a road, but it's not an

747
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:47.119
<v Speaker 1>actual road. It was probably it wasn't it was the

748
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 1>main road down here, but that was probably one hundred

749
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:54.559
<v Speaker 1>and twenty years ago. So this road, this path that

750
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I takes, goes up a mountain about I'm gonna say

751
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 1>about point eight or point nine of a kilometer and

752
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>then the rest of it. Daughter, it's one point seven

753
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.039
<v Speaker 1>kilometers long. I know that I'm that mutching. The rest

754
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>of it's downhill, right, so about halfway going up the hill.

755
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>For about two months now, since the beginning of summer,

756
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I've started getting a really bad smell and it smells

757
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>like rotten fish and urine. Sometimes it smells like rotten

758
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:37.519
<v Speaker 1>fish and garbage. And one time it was just straight

759
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>off pecs. It was just it was. It was. It's gross,

760
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 1>but whatever it is. But not very long after I

761
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>get the smell, I start hearing something in the right

762
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 1>hand like you're walking off to be in the right

763
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:54.239
<v Speaker 1>hand side, you're walking back down. It's left hand, so.

764
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 3>You're walking off.

765
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>And I started hearing something in the woods inside me

766
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:01.400
<v Speaker 1>every single time. But it's not as big as the

767
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>one that I saw Ganger heard and Gander, I should say,

768
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:09.800
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't sound as big as that. And I hadn't

769
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 1>been really gaying much attention to it until this one day.

770
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I was telling Vic, how Vic, the fog is down

771
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>here and it could call me in like the weather.

772
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Hair changes in the blink of an eye. So this

773
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 1>one morning I woke up to got ready having coffee

774
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>and the skill Goup mountains now, so I went to

775
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:35.800
<v Speaker 1>check that and well, I want to do that, and

776
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I left nothing nothing, nothing happened, I locked up. I

777
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>don't even think I smelled anything that day and the

778
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:45.800
<v Speaker 1>way up. But uh, well fast forward it. This is

779
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:50.079
<v Speaker 1>a bit prior to explain because two other people seen

780
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.280
<v Speaker 1>what I would think they seen something, and I seen something,

781
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 1>but I can't explain what I seen. They can kind

782
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of explain what they see, but I'll try to explain

783
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.119
<v Speaker 1>it the best I can. So when I left, I

784
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:06.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't find this out until I got back later that night.

785
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>My neighbor, she lives above me. She's from the Mainland,

786
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:14.800
<v Speaker 1>so she's after seeing big cats like cougar before we

787
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:18.039
<v Speaker 1>got no cougar's here at all, right, So when I

788
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:22.239
<v Speaker 1>was coming home that night, she stopped me and she said, Adam,

789
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 1>did you see that when you're left this morning?

790
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:25.280
<v Speaker 3>I was like, did you see what?

791
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>And I got this really old tree in my backyard

792
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:32.159
<v Speaker 1>and it got to be every bit of one hundred

793
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:34.199
<v Speaker 1>and fifty if not more feet high, and it's just

794
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:40.519
<v Speaker 1>this one tree. And she said, this big muscly cat,

795
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:43.880
<v Speaker 1>a big black muscly cat, and she said it was

796
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:49.039
<v Speaker 1>like longer than I am. Tal walked down the tree

797
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and I said, what do you mean it walked down

798
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>the tree and crawled down the tree. She said, no,

799
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:56.079
<v Speaker 1>it didn't crawl down the tree. It walked down the

800
00:45:56.119 --> 00:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>tree like you picture of an animal walking on background.

801
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.800
<v Speaker 1>He said, that's what that did, went down the tree.

802
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>And when I asked her what color was she said

803
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>it was black. And she said it was a black cougar.

804
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.039
<v Speaker 1>And I said, do you mean a black cougar? So

805
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>we got no cougar's new and we got no black ones.

806
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>We definitely don't want to have no black ones, right,

807
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 1>So that kind of startled me. Earlier that day when

808
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I left to come back home, Like I was telling

809
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:31.159
<v Speaker 1>you guys, the fog can come in here pretty quick.

810
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 1>So I made I was up there maybe two hours

811
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and an hour, hour and a half maybe When I

812
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 1>learned to leave, the fog was bad. It was so

813
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>bad I could not see. If I put my hand

814
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 1>out as far as I could, I couldn't see my hand.

815
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Like when I got up on top of the hill

816
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:54.360
<v Speaker 1>to go back down the path. The path is only

817
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:56.559
<v Speaker 1>about ten feet wide, I couldn't see on each side

818
00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of the path now. Like I said earlier, the past

819
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:05.679
<v Speaker 1>takes about twenty minutes. Fifteen minutes for me, I got

820
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.039
<v Speaker 1>onto it. I don't think I was into it, not

821
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:14.159
<v Speaker 1>even five minutes and I seen like it just like

822
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.559
<v Speaker 1>it slowly came in the vision and in the middle

823
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of a path was just black, fuzzy something. After I

824
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:26.159
<v Speaker 1>got off the phone with Vic the other day, I

825
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 1>wracked my brain. I sat down and tried to think

826
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.960
<v Speaker 1>about it and tried to think about what I saw.

827
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>And at the time I was like, I've seen a

828
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.280
<v Speaker 1>black bear. That's in my mind at the time, is

829
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.159
<v Speaker 1>a black bear cub because I know it wasn't the

830
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:41.199
<v Speaker 1>side of a full wound, but it wasn't the size

831
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:45.079
<v Speaker 1>of it wasn't exactly decide of the cub either, right like,

832
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:50.519
<v Speaker 1>and it was really it was blurry looking to me.

833
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was the fog or what.

834
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.960
<v Speaker 1>It was blurry looking to me, so I couldn't really

835
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get any features. I don't know. It was

836
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a black mass standing. I wouldn't stand it was on

837
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 1>it was on force at this time, but didn't move

838
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the whole time. I couldn't see its head to see

839
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:11.679
<v Speaker 1>if it was looking at me or not. But the

840
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:15.159
<v Speaker 1>whole time I was watching it, it didn't move so

841
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>like to me, that's if it was a black bear,

842
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:22.280
<v Speaker 1>it would have been odd behavior for him because it

843
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.440
<v Speaker 1>either come towards me or run for me. I wonder,

844
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:31.159
<v Speaker 1>you're not just going to stand there. But like I said,

845
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:34.239
<v Speaker 1>it took me five minutes to get when I witnessed that.

846
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I was so scared at the time because I wasn't

847
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 3>sure what I was seeing.

848
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Like if it was a club, I was like, okay, well,

849
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:44.239
<v Speaker 1>first thing came my mind was mammo bear. So instead

850
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.559
<v Speaker 1>of turned around and walking straight out, I decided slowly

851
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.679
<v Speaker 1>back out, and my head was on the swivel the

852
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 1>whole way out until that thing went out of my vision.

853
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And then I got on the road and off the

854
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:02.679
<v Speaker 1>roadway home. But after I got home, and after my

855
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:06.800
<v Speaker 1>neighbor told me what she had seen the next morning

856
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 1>my mom, I came back up to help out my

857
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:14.440
<v Speaker 1>mom again. And the next morning she told me she

858
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.159
<v Speaker 1>was up in the middle of the night for some

859
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:22.119
<v Speaker 1>fresh air, and she seemed what she explained to me

860
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:26.480
<v Speaker 1>was she couldn't tell if it was a dog or

861
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 1>a big cat, but she said it's sitting down, its

862
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:36.360
<v Speaker 1>head would have been to the bottom of my neck

863
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:40.400
<v Speaker 1>or the bottom of my chin. And I'm five foot eight,

864
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.360
<v Speaker 1>so that's sitting down. It's pretty big, but it still

865
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been as big as the one that I

866
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:52.840
<v Speaker 1>after that day, my kids used to walk that path

867
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:55.639
<v Speaker 1>and go back and forth from their friends. I thought,

868
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I completely stop my kids from using that path, and

869
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't. Le's like, I have to try not to

870
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:06.760
<v Speaker 1>use the path as much as I can, but I

871
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.760
<v Speaker 1>think it's a juve. And a while and a couple

872
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>of nights ago, I'm getting a lot of work done

873
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 1>on the place that I'm living down during new windows

874
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and doors put in, and uh, that was about five

875
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 1>days ago, maybe now. And so I went out after

876
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 1>my back windows got replaced and they're all missy from

877
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:29.119
<v Speaker 1>the from the guys working and stuff. So I went

878
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:31.199
<v Speaker 1>out cleaning my windows because I was very proud of

879
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:35.599
<v Speaker 1>my new windows, made sure they're all sparkally clean. And

880
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:39.679
<v Speaker 1>that night I was making supper or whatever, getting supper.

881
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:43.079
<v Speaker 1>I think I think it was like blues birthday, my

882
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.360
<v Speaker 1>dog Blue. I think it was his birthday actually went

883
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 1>because we were making hamburgers and we went out to

884
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:53.000
<v Speaker 1>eat it, and I heard from the kitchen the kitchen window,

885
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I heard tettet test, but it kept on tappen and

886
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.840
<v Speaker 1>it didn't stop like it stop. But it was a

887
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.519
<v Speaker 1>lot longer than what it usually is. And I don't

888
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>know if it's because the new windows or because, like

889
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.559
<v Speaker 1>I noticed myself, I'm much clearer there. If they were,

890
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:13.599
<v Speaker 1>my whole windows were really dirty. But well, that wouldn't

891
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.400
<v Speaker 1>say dirty, it's just old. I think it's like a cloudiness.

892
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>To him, it was really clear and shiney. So I

893
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:20.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was like seeing itself and it's

894
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:25.159
<v Speaker 1>like touching, it's like seeing its reflection or something. But uh.

895
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.559
<v Speaker 1>The next morning, I woke up there and the guys

896
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.679
<v Speaker 1>had all the scaffolding out in the front of the house.

897
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:32.800
<v Speaker 1>They moved it out to the front at this point,

898
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and I went to let my dog out for his

899
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:36.360
<v Speaker 1>morning pee or whatever.

900
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 3>And when I did, I checked the window.

901
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I was checked the back, just going sure nothing's out there.

902
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>And when I did, there was a print on my window.

903
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't like a full line like handprint. I

904
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 1>think it's three digits and it was at the top

905
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.079
<v Speaker 1>of my window. Like I said, to you guys earlier

906
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:59.119
<v Speaker 1>when I was explaining where the window was in my bedroom.

907
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:01.639
<v Speaker 1>It's same with all windows of my pramtments are about

908
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:05.920
<v Speaker 1>five feet up from the bottom of the floor and

909
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:08.800
<v Speaker 1>almost rested way up the wall.

910
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:10.320
<v Speaker 3>There's pretty big windows.

911
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:15.400
<v Speaker 1>But in order for an animal that I think, or

912
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:18.840
<v Speaker 1>a creature that I think is the size that these guys,

913
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:22.519
<v Speaker 1>you would have to kneel down to looking right. So

914
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking where the print is on top of my window,

915
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:27.400
<v Speaker 1>not the bottom of the middle or anywhere like that.

916
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I think he knelt down and rest of his hand

917
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:33.320
<v Speaker 1>on the top of my window, and he used these

918
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:37.880
<v Speaker 1>other hand attack. Now that's just what I'm getting from it.

919
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:44.639
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's my my encounters. Like I said, I've

920
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.920
<v Speaker 1>only seen him three times in eleven years. But I

921
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:51.079
<v Speaker 1>have a hard time remembering all the little things because

922
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:54.639
<v Speaker 1>there's like so many little things that happens. Like I

923
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:56.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I mentioned it the other day when

924
00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 1>we did the phone interview. Before me and my ex

925
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:02.559
<v Speaker 1>broke up let me moved back here, we would get

926
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:05.639
<v Speaker 1>birds like I don't know if they were gifts or something,

927
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:10.679
<v Speaker 1>but somebody wouldn't like they're dead obviously, but they weren't like,

928
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like somebody like Kuli bird.

929
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:14.519
<v Speaker 3>He looked like you were dad.

930
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:18.280
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like somebody carefully had him in her hand

931
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and just laying them on my backsteps. That happened. That

932
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:26.840
<v Speaker 1>only happened like a couple of times. But that stopped

933
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:31.440
<v Speaker 1>as well. And uh well, a couple of years ago

934
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:33.639
<v Speaker 1>we had a lot of wildlife down here too, And

935
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.800
<v Speaker 1>like the coyotes, we had a bunch of coyotes that

936
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:41.519
<v Speaker 1>were down here. They're all gone now, they're disappeared. Yeah,

937
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 1>I had, I know of three foxes that I used

938
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>to see daily. I had one that I always used

939
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to sit on my corner in my yard. I mean

940
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I used to see him every other day. He hadn't

941
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:56.639
<v Speaker 1>seen him. And there's two more, and one that you

942
00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:58.519
<v Speaker 1>see on the path, I haven't seen him no more.

943
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.000
<v Speaker 1>And there's one up on mount I haven't seen him no more.

944
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:06.079
<v Speaker 1>And what else gone? Trouse? There's a lot of grouse here.

945
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:08.480
<v Speaker 1>There's no grouse down here no more. I haven't seen

946
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:13.199
<v Speaker 1>any seen rabbits, any small animals. There's none around. But

947
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:18.440
<v Speaker 1>when I'm having I did notice, when I'm having like

948
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:21.800
<v Speaker 1>more than like two or three window taps a week.

949
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:28.960
<v Speaker 1>That's when you see like moose running through the community

950
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:34.079
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. It's like the the moose know

951
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:38.039
<v Speaker 1>that these things won't follow them into town because they're

952
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:38.760
<v Speaker 1>going to get.

953
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:41.199
<v Speaker 3>It's so weird once you like connect the dots.

954
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know. I could just be that

955
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:47.000
<v Speaker 1>overthinking it. But that's why I thought, like these things

956
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:50.760
<v Speaker 1>when they're around the moose that's scared of them, they're

957
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:52.000
<v Speaker 1>willing to just walk.

958
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Through the town. Not like moose cares about a person anyways.

959
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>But it's not very often like a moose just goes

960
00:54:57.400 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 1>straight up block in the middle of your town, you

961
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.559
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. But yeah, that's one. That's everything

962
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I got. I hope it it helps somebody out there.

963
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I know a couple of year Gud's stories help me out.

964
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:12.239
<v Speaker 1>So thank you very much for listing.

965
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're welcome. Yeah, that is quite a bit. Those

966
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:20.519
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of experiences. I'll tell you what, Adam,

967
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 2>we're out of time tonight, but would be up for

968
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:26.039
<v Speaker 2>coming back Friday night to do a live stream so

969
00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I could ask you a bunch of questions about your experiences,

970
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:31.880
<v Speaker 2>and that way also you could feel some questions from

971
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:33.400
<v Speaker 2>the listeners and the live chat.

972
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, I would one hundred percent be down for that.

973
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh good. Well if that's the case, then yeah, we'll

974
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:44.320
<v Speaker 2>just put the questions on hold until then and we'll

975
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:46.639
<v Speaker 2>have you come back so we can do that. But

976
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 2>in the meantime, thanks again so much for coming on

977
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.199
<v Speaker 2>and doing this in the first place. I really appreciate it.

978
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:54.960
<v Speaker 3>You're very welcome, no problem.

979
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to say thank you very much too, because

980
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>just takes a huge weight off my chest. It's like

981
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:04.679
<v Speaker 1>I felt for long squall, I couldn't tell anybody about it,

982
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and I want to let everybody know that it's okay

983
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:12.039
<v Speaker 1>to talk about these things and they are out there,

984
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:15.400
<v Speaker 1>so stay safe and be careful to everybody.

985
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:18.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you have experiences like this with dog men,

986
00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:22.000
<v Speaker 2>but you can't talk about these experiences you've had. Like

987
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:24.679
<v Speaker 2>I've said before several times, it's like a prison with

988
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.360
<v Speaker 2>no walls. It's just not a good feeling at all.

989
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:29.599
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just glad to be able to provide a

990
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:31.639
<v Speaker 2>way for you to put these experiences out there and

991
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:32.440
<v Speaker 2>talk about them.

992
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm glad there's a somewhere to go with it,

993
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:39.840
<v Speaker 1>right because there's nothing worse than having something like that

994
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:40.760
<v Speaker 1>stuck in your head.

995
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh definitely, yeah, that's not good at all. Well, thanks

996
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:48.239
<v Speaker 2>again so much for your time, Adam, and we'll talk

997
00:56:48.280 --> 00:57:07.920
<v Speaker 2>to your Fridays.

998
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:12.000
<v Speaker 1>English
