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Speaker 4: Good morning. There he is wrangling, are not so live
Speaker 4: studio audience? Good morning, Sam? How's your weeks? Everything?
Speaker 5: You got a laser guy in here today? Yeah, I'm
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Speaker 4: Sam? Good, I'm feeling bubbly today. This is good. You're
Speaker 4: feeling bubbly. Yeah, I've got some fun stuff coming up.
Speaker 5: My nephew graduated high school, so we're going to go
Speaker 5: and have a party for him, and my kids are
Speaker 5: out of town, so I got nothing but free time.
Speaker 2: No, well, there you go, there you go. I was
Speaker 2: at my niece's middle school promotion yesterday.
Speaker 4: Classic. It was classic. It was just great.
Speaker 2: Middle of the day, got a little warm out there
Speaker 2: sitting in the sun on the field. But you know what,
Speaker 2: they pulled it off. They did not take too long
Speaker 2: to do it, So I'm gotta give them. I'm going
Speaker 2: to give them major props at Redwood Elementary School in
Speaker 2: Thousand Oaks for pulling off a two hundred and something
Speaker 2: kid promotion in one hour one hour tops. That was
Speaker 2: including speeches and h and a very interesting rendition of well.
Speaker 2: I forget what song it is that they did with
Speaker 2: the band or the quartet or something, but there's nothing
Speaker 2: quite like a middle school band. Tina, of course was
Speaker 2: you know, you think Tina is just absolutely sweet and kind.
Speaker 2: She was sitting here, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: You were criticizing them from the minute they started. You're like, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2: I'm like, babe, it's a middle school band. What did
Speaker 2: you think they were gonna you pay for a frontline band?
Speaker 2: You know, no middle school band? Yes, of course, there's
Speaker 2: the occasional flat note. Somebody on the viol just didn't
Speaker 2: get it quite right. The horns coming in the tuba
Speaker 2: player was fun. The tuba was great. The tuba came.
Speaker 2: You're on what you got to step up to your microphone?
Speaker 3: I have not on at least by Oh there we go.
Speaker 3: Oh see, okay, all right O good now anyway, so,
Speaker 3: uh yeah, I feel you, Sam. It was It was
Speaker 3: a great time yesterday.
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Speaker 2: at the news desk, Good morning, Eileen.
Speaker 4: Good morning, Dean. How's it go in? Good? How are you?
Speaker 4: What's going on? Oh? Not a lot?
Speaker 6: You know, it's kind of funny when you were mentioning
Speaker 6: the middle school bands that reminded me of being in
Speaker 6: middle school, and it was one of the most horrible
Speaker 6: experiences ever, wasn't the salt on my ears?
Speaker 4: Oh? Oh oh yeah music?
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, there's pure potential there. But yeah, that was brutal.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it just is. It's it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, but would you expect it any other way?
Speaker 2: I mean you would you? I mean I think I
Speaker 2: would be a little disappointed if we if we were
Speaker 2: sitting there yesterday and and the the middle school band
Speaker 2: just knocked it out of the park.
Speaker 3: I think, just like, whoa, well that that what happened
Speaker 3: that young lady did though her song, I know, but I'm.
Speaker 2: Talking about the band. I expect the band to sound
Speaker 2: a little squeaky, a little loft, coming late, come in
Speaker 2: a little early. It's see, that's what you said. You
Speaker 2: looked at me and you're like, like, ugh, they have
Speaker 2: one job. No they don't. Well, they're middle schoolers, they
Speaker 2: have they have a thousand jobs. There's a thousand things
Speaker 2: they're doing and the last thing in the world that
Speaker 2: they're concerned about.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they had to practice a lot though, because
Speaker 3: they knew they were doing that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're middle schoolers.
Speaker 3: So was that young lady who sang that beautiful song
Speaker 3: I think from Anna.
Speaker 4: Yeah she's got a nice voice. Yeah that's different, is it?
Speaker 4: It is different? She just has only let the talented
Speaker 4: kids do it.
Speaker 2: That's the harsh that's the harsh line of middle school.
Speaker 4: That's what you're starting to learn though.
Speaker 2: In middle school, right, you're starting to be like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, if I you know, if I don't make
Speaker 2: the grade, they're gonna cut me from the team. In
Speaker 2: elementary school, you just get participation trophies for everything. But
Speaker 2: in middle school, it starts happening. Life starts showing up.
Speaker 2: It gets real. And these eighth graders, they were graduating
Speaker 2: and they're they're top They've been top dog right after
Speaker 2: a three year journey. And now now now look at
Speaker 2: what they're gonna be. They're gonna be scrubs in high school.
Speaker 4: Next year.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be on low men on the totem pole.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. All right, I should move on
Speaker 2: from this because it's probably time to start the show.
Speaker 2: Right sitting across the table from me, my better half,
Speaker 2: middle school music critic Tina, you're here, Welcome home, my
Speaker 2: also my best friend in all the world, but she's
Speaker 2: very harsh on middle school music.
Speaker 3: Well, and congratulations save those middle schoolers who eliminated yesterday.
Speaker 4: That's a big deal. It is a big deal.
Speaker 2: And I know, I also know in the back of
Speaker 2: your mind you're thinking, thank god, get into music class
Speaker 2: in high school and work hards.
Speaker 4: It's true, meaning me, very cruelly.
Speaker 2: No, it was just a thing. All right, it's true.
Speaker 2: All right, y'all. When we come back, let's start taking calls.
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Speaker 2: Ask Dean. Is the number to reach me? Eight three
Speaker 2: three two, ask Dean. I see what you're doing there,
Speaker 2: dam I see it. If only, if only that middle
Speaker 2: school band sounded like that. That is a legitimate high
Speaker 2: school band playing there, or college band?
Speaker 4: What was it? What were you playing there?
Speaker 5: That's middle school, Bristol School, seventh and eighth graders, and
Speaker 5: they are precise.
Speaker 1: No way, what do.
Speaker 2: You mean you feel vindicated? That's an exceptional that's like
Speaker 2: one in a million. They got their own album.
Speaker 4: Just saying it's possible. They had one job and they
Speaker 4: nailed it.
Speaker 2: You see this, Oh my goodness, you did not vindigate yourself.
Speaker 2: You just dug a deeper hole. It's middle school, all right.
Speaker 2: Dean Sharp the house whisper here with my music critic
Speaker 2: Tina uh. Whether your home is a condo, a cottage,
Speaker 2: or a castle, we're here to help you take it
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Speaker 2: number to reach me eight three to three two. Ask
Speaker 2: Dean eight three three the numeral two ask Dean. Let's
Speaker 2: go to the phones. I want to talk to Barbara. Hey, Barbara,
Speaker 2: welcome home.
Speaker 7: Mike, good morning, Thank you so much for taking my call.
Speaker 7: I've had I have the beach house really close to
Speaker 7: the ocean, obviously, and it's very moist down here. We
Speaker 7: have a lot of sand ander, you know, in the
Speaker 7: soil around the house, and efflorescence has always been something
Speaker 7: that's under the house. I have a part of the
Speaker 7: house is the main house is above ground, and then
Speaker 7: I have a casita that's that's on a slab along
Speaker 7: with the garage, so that's not an issue. But it's
Speaker 7: in the main house. And we've worked for efflores since
Speaker 7: about four years ago. Got rid of it on my
Speaker 7: termite guy had tinted, but it came back and then
Speaker 7: he goes, We'll just throw the oxy clean powder underneath
Speaker 7: and just like chicken feed, just kind of throw it.
Speaker 7: And it took care of it for about four years,
Speaker 7: and now it's back with a freaking vengeance. I mean,
Speaker 7: it was like snow under my house, but it's not
Speaker 7: on the concrete. It's just on the dirt. And so
Speaker 7: I started thinking, Okay, well, it's coming from moisture from somewhere.
Speaker 7: It's coming from the outside. So when we renovated this
Speaker 7: house four and a half years ago, outside too, we
Speaker 7: were a very complicated backyard, but we did add some
Speaker 7: dirt with some sand, but I think the combination has
Speaker 7: more sand with dirt. And as I'm pulling away just
Speaker 7: looking to see what's against the house, it's moist it's wet.
Speaker 7: So the effluorescence is coming from I think maybe what
Speaker 7: we did outside. I'm not sure, but that could be possible.
Speaker 7: And when it rains here we have rain coming from
Speaker 7: like the norse hitting the backside of the house. Is
Speaker 7: only in the backside of the house. The front part
Speaker 7: of the house is okay, So when you look under
Speaker 7: the house where the front part of the house is,
Speaker 7: there's no affluorescence. It's all in the back side of
Speaker 7: the house here, but there's a lot of snow under there.
Speaker 7: My question is, can I maybe remove some of the
Speaker 7: dirt with it that on there? Do you think that
Speaker 7: that would help raking it? He said, no, don't touch it,
Speaker 7: let it go. But it's like snow. It's white and
Speaker 7: it's everywhere. It's not on the concrete or the wood yet.
Speaker 7: But four years ago, if I looked up, I could
Speaker 7: see the under part of my sub floors and it
Speaker 7: was whitey down the wood and on the concrete. I
Speaker 7: have a cripple wall that's been you know, reinforced, and
Speaker 7: it's all of it at cripple wall it was, you know.
Speaker 7: So it's an old house, fifty five plus years old.
Speaker 7: It's home, miss, but I wanted your expertise. I'm almost
Speaker 7: tempted just to remove the dirt under the house. I
Speaker 7: don't know what else to do. It's crazy. So that's
Speaker 7: why I'm calling.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, that's a really kind of a unique situation, Barbara.
Speaker 7: It totally is.
Speaker 2: I know it is a unique situation. Here's the thing. Efflorescence.
Speaker 2: By the way, just to catch everybody up, because you
Speaker 2: and I I don't want you and I just to
Speaker 2: have this private little conversation. People are like, what the
Speaker 2: heck is that fluorescence? Efflorescence is a fancy name for
Speaker 2: mineral deposits that are left behind by moisture. Now, most
Speaker 2: of the time, most of the time, when I get
Speaker 2: a call about efflorescence, it's because somebody thinks they're concrete
Speaker 2: stem wall or their their foundation is dissolving. It's coming
Speaker 2: apart because we get all this white stuff on the surface.
Speaker 2: So it's got to be what's leeching out of my
Speaker 2: concrete or why is my concrete dissolving? And it's not that.
Speaker 2: It's not that at all. What it is is just
Speaker 2: water moving through cement most of the time, and most
Speaker 2: people find it like on the surface of their garage,
Speaker 2: their interior garage, little stem walls.
Speaker 8: And.
Speaker 2: Water moves to the surface because concrete is porous, and
Speaker 2: then it evaporates. But water has mineral content and its
Speaker 2: salts and other minerals, and as water evaporates, think about
Speaker 2: places like Mono Lake or any place where you've seen
Speaker 2: a lot of evaporative water. It leaves salt behind, the
Speaker 2: Great Salt Flats. It's all the same. It's water that
Speaker 2: has appeared, evaporated and left its mineral content behind, and
Speaker 2: that's really all it is. It's not attractive for people
Speaker 2: to find inside like their house or on the garage walls,
Speaker 2: but it's not particularly a danger to anyone or anything
Speaker 2: because it's just mineral content left behind. Now that's normally
Speaker 2: the case when we hear about people experiencing efflorescence in
Speaker 2: their home and they want to know how can I
Speaker 2: clean it off the concrete and so on. You've got
Speaker 2: it on your soil in the subfloor and the crawl
Speaker 2: space of your house, maybe because your unique little microclimate
Speaker 2: where you live there by the beach. But there's a
Speaker 2: lot of salt in the air. Okay, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of salt in the air, and if it has a chance,
Speaker 2: if that moist salt air has a chance to kind
Speaker 2: of settle on soil in a place where it doesn't
Speaker 2: flash off too quickly, then it's leaving some deposits behind.
Speaker 2: And so that's why it looks like snow underneath the house.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I'm not sure I'm worried about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not mildew, it's not mold, it's mineral deposits,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, it has a funky look to it.
Speaker 2: But mineral deposits, they don't threaten the house. They don't
Speaker 2: threaten the soil, they don't threaten the wood, they don't
Speaker 2: threaten anything in particular.
Speaker 4: They're just weird looking.
Speaker 7: Can I say we did we did start developing those
Speaker 7: they look like I'm going to just be very trying
Speaker 7: to explain this. We also have just developed, probably in
Speaker 7: the last six months. They look like avocado pits that
Speaker 7: are orange, but they're squishy, and it's a type of
Speaker 7: fungus or something outside that was up against the house.
Speaker 7: So I know the moisture combination sand flash dirt has
Speaker 7: probably a lot to do with that kind of issue.
Speaker 7: And I pulled those bulbs out and I disposed all
Speaker 7: of those and it's only in those that those things
Speaker 7: are only in one part where the downceto is. So
Speaker 7: I got an extended for the down spout. I'm trying
Speaker 7: to direct the water when it rains out, you know,
Speaker 7: into the more in the middle of the hard But
Speaker 7: I have a big experdure, but I don't. I'm thinking,
Speaker 7: I know, I know, Elisa, is he my guy the
Speaker 7: you know my term my guy inn said, he goes,
Speaker 7: don't worry, it's not going to hurt you. But we
Speaker 7: have that old grandma smell in the house, the old musty,
Speaker 7: old grandma smell. You know, it's a house.
Speaker 2: That's that's what I wanted to address with you. That's
Speaker 2: that's what I want you to do. So here's the thing, Barbara.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pop you on hold because we're up against
Speaker 2: a break. I'm running little late here. I spent too
Speaker 2: much time talking about middle school bands.
Speaker 4: My bad. I'm the popy on hold.
Speaker 2: And when we come back, I want to address what
Speaker 2: I think is the real root problem that I want
Speaker 2: you to deal with. Not there effluorescence, but the reason
Speaker 2: why it's there. Okay, so you hang tight, and when
Speaker 2: we come back, I want to talk about a problem
Speaker 2: underneath what appears to be the annoying problem and get
Speaker 2: to the root of it so that we don't have
Speaker 2: any moisture issues causing trouble with your home. All right,
Speaker 2: We'll get back to Barber's call and the rest of
Speaker 2: your calls when we return your Home with Dean Sharp
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Speaker 2: all right, very quickly. I was running late with the
Speaker 2: other segments here, so I got to make up some
Speaker 2: time here. But I've got Barbara on the line. Barbara
Speaker 2: has an efflorescence problem under her house. Lots of mineral
Speaker 2: deposits everywhere above normal for sure, for this one of
Speaker 2: the most one of the most unusual level of efflorescence
Speaker 2: on the soil and her subfloor and so on. So, Barbara,
Speaker 2: what I wanted to address with you is not so
Speaker 2: much the efflorescence, which is not in and of itself
Speaker 2: an issue having mineral deposits left behind on things, but
Speaker 2: the root cause, which is moisture, whether it's ground moisture
Speaker 2: or moisture in the air, getting trapped in the subfloor,
Speaker 2: the fact that it's leaving behind mineral deposits. Again, not
Speaker 2: the most attractive thing, but not in and of itself
Speaker 2: an issue the mineral deposits themselves. But you've said, like
Speaker 2: on the north side of the house, where you've got
Speaker 2: right by the rain gutter down spouts, you've started to
Speaker 2: get like the orange bulbs of mold and mildew. You've
Speaker 2: got a moist environment there. And so there's a couple
Speaker 2: of things that I want you to be aware of.
Speaker 2: Number One, I do want you guys to be extra
Speaker 2: careful about getting moisture away from the foundation of the house.
Speaker 2: And you'd already mentioned that you're extending the rain gutters
Speaker 2: so that they actually deposit out away from the house,
Speaker 2: not right down at the edge. That's a wise thing
Speaker 2: to do. Make sure that we're not overwatering anything, considering
Speaker 2: that you're in a very moist kind of beach air environment,
Speaker 2: especially on the north side of the house. Especially on
Speaker 2: the north side, because the north side of the house
Speaker 2: is where there's a lot more shade, because we have
Speaker 2: southern sun, so the south side of the house is
Speaker 2: getting blasted with more warmth and direct sunlight, and a
Speaker 2: lot of that moisture dissipates very fast. On the north side,
Speaker 2: it develops quicker. But my concern is primarily not about
Speaker 2: the perimeter of the house, but underneath, okay, because what
Speaker 2: can happen not from the effluorescence, but by continual buildup
Speaker 2: of extremely moist air in there is we can develop mold, mildew,
Speaker 2: musty smell that ends up crawling up through the floorboards
Speaker 2: the floor joists. Even excessive amounts of moisture under there
Speaker 2: can end up damaging the bottom of hardwood floors. We
Speaker 2: don't want our floorboards cupping or anything like that happening, okay,
Speaker 2: And it doesn't sound like that's happened yet, but it
Speaker 2: is something to deal with. So here is my biggest
Speaker 2: suggestion number in addition to keeping moisture away from the house,
Speaker 2: just as a general rule, it sounds like you've just
Speaker 2: got a lot of it in the air. And I
Speaker 2: don't know the condition of your subfloor vents, how many
Speaker 2: vents there are, how open it is, how well air
Speaker 2: gets to circulate down around a subfloor in older homes.
Speaker 2: I never expected to be great, because you know, just
Speaker 2: even if it was built that way really well with
Speaker 2: lots of venting back in the day, the fact of
Speaker 2: the matter is, all sorts of things have happened to
Speaker 2: the house. Some of those vents have been covered up,
Speaker 2: some of them have been painted over, and blah blah,
Speaker 2: you know that kind of stuff. So bottom line, bottom line, Barbara,
Speaker 2: And then I've got to run because I've got to
Speaker 2: catch up here. Here is my suggestion. I think you
Speaker 2: could affect this fix for about five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: I think what you're looking for, and what I would
Speaker 2: recommend for you is that you guys invest in a
Speaker 2: subfloor crawl space dehumidifier, and they are you can find them.
Speaker 2: You can find them on like the home Depot website
Speaker 2: or lows or big box store a hard way.
Speaker 4: You can find them online.
Speaker 2: And it has to be not a dehumidifier for inside
Speaker 2: a house because inside house dehumidifiers they stand upright and
Speaker 2: they kind of look like little portable air conditioners. But
Speaker 2: your crawl space is not that tall. Okay, So this
Speaker 2: is a This is one clad in metal. You can
Speaker 2: plug it in. They are automatic. They work automatically, so
Speaker 2: in other words, you set a moisture level for them,
Speaker 2: and they turn themselves on when the moisture reached in
Speaker 2: the air reaches a certain level, and they literally draw
Speaker 2: moisture out of the air. They dry the air in
Speaker 2: the space for about five hundred dollars. It's the average
Speaker 2: dehumidifier crawl space dehumidifier handles about four to five thousand
Speaker 2: square feet. So one of these puppies sitting underneath the
Speaker 2: house just running on its own. It'll turn itself on
Speaker 2: and off automatically. It has a drainage tube that you
Speaker 2: can run outside to drain somewhere and it will help
Speaker 2: draw the air into itself, dry it, and push it
Speaker 2: back out into the crawl space. So the crawl space
Speaker 2: air stays dryer, lacking that heavy, heavy humidity, and as
Speaker 2: a result, you're not going to get the effluorescence or
Speaker 2: the mildew or the must or the mold build up
Speaker 2: in there. We've done this many times before to older
Speaker 2: homes and they work marvelously once they're up and running.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to go ahead and
Speaker 2: do the effluorescent clean up this time and then put
Speaker 2: in the dehumidifier just to you know, to verify that
Speaker 2: it's working so you don't see the build up again.
Speaker 2: But that is what I strongly recommend to you, and
Speaker 2: you can again, you can find them online. Just about
Speaker 2: anything that needs to be made these days is made
Speaker 2: and these are common You may have never run across
Speaker 2: one before, but they're commonplace. So a dehumidifier for your
Speaker 2: crawl space could could make all the difference in the world.
Speaker 4: That's my best suggestion for you, my friend. Thank you
Speaker 4: so much for your call.
Speaker 2: I've got to run on so that we've got time
Speaker 2: for more callers, so good luck with that.
Speaker 4: Let me know how that turns out.
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Speaker 2: to the phones. I want to talk to Mike. Hey, Mike,
Speaker 2: welcome home.
Speaker 8: Good morning. Dean. You've helped me with my Lake Tahoe
Speaker 8: home with on several occasions, and I'm not considering how
Speaker 8: to make my home a little more fire resistant. I
Speaker 8: was considering adding a hearty sighting to the house, but
Speaker 8: you'd mentioned some into messing paint. I've got t one
Speaker 8: eleven plywood for the most of the majority of the home,
Speaker 8: and I'm wondering what your thoughts on are intimissent paint
Speaker 8: for this purpose.
Speaker 2: I like into messent paint. Into messent is another five
Speaker 2: dollars word. It means for everybody else who's listening, it
Speaker 2: means something that reacts to heat and expands with heat.
Speaker 2: So an inter messent paint basically, when it reaches a
Speaker 2: certain temperature, will expand and cover over seal over, kind
Speaker 2: of self seal the area, and it produces sort of
Speaker 2: a if you want to call it, this kind of
Speaker 2: a foamy protection layer that allows the surface underneath it
Speaker 2: an extra layer of protection. And the really good ones
Speaker 2: could render you know, two thousand plus degrees two hour
Speaker 2: fire protection, which is more than enough in almost every situation. So, Mike,
Speaker 2: the general gist of this is, I don't like when
Speaker 2: we're fire hardening a home, I don't want to rely
Speaker 2: just solely on one thing. I think it's a good
Speaker 2: idea if you're changing out as much of your t
Speaker 2: one to eleven wood siding to something like the hardy sighting,
Speaker 2: the cement based sighting. Not only is it going to
Speaker 2: look great, but it's going to give you that extra
Speaker 2: level of assurance that you are fire hardening the house.
Speaker 2: So as opposed to using the inter messin paint, because
Speaker 2: the thing with the intermssine paint or primer, and on
Speaker 2: an exterior, I really like using an intermscent primer because
Speaker 2: then you can go ahead and use just about any
Speaker 2: other kind of paint that you want on top of it,
Speaker 2: and you get all the protection without having to be
Speaker 2: limited in color choices and durability and all of that
Speaker 2: kind of thing. So I prefer the primers for exterior situations.
Speaker 2: But the thing is they're expensive. I mean they're crazy expensive,
Speaker 2: like four hundred and eighty to five hundred dollars for.
Speaker 4: A couple three gallons. So it's not really a cost.
Speaker 2: Savings in the it's quicker, but it's not a cost
Speaker 2: savings to just say, well, you know, I've got a
Speaker 2: wood exterior, let's just paint it with into messin paint now.
Speaker 2: If there's just no way to change out the exterior
Speaker 2: right now and you want that protection, then.
Speaker 4: Sure, go for it.
Speaker 2: But what I like to do is when we design
Speaker 2: a home in a fire rich area, to fire harden
Speaker 2: the home, we start with fire resistant class A surfaces
Speaker 2: on the outside, you know, like the hardy siding, and
Speaker 2: then I like to use the intermessent material where it
Speaker 2: counts the most, which is the eves and the overhangs.
Speaker 2: Anything that's overhanging, that's gonna be the place where flames
Speaker 2: are going to lick up and have the biggest amount
Speaker 2: of exposure to rooflines and attic spaces. So my recommendation
Speaker 2: would be go for the hardy siding and then use
Speaker 2: into messent primer and or paint on the eves the
Speaker 2: underside of the eaves of the house so you don't
Speaker 2: have to box it in or change the design look
Speaker 2: or anything like that. That's where I would concentrate that
Speaker 2: paint and you won't be using that much of it
Speaker 2: there and therefore you're going to get the best value
Speaker 2: out of it.
Speaker 4: If that makes sense.
Speaker 8: That's great advice, especially if something I could do easily quickly. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: for sure, seems like that would be the first potential
Speaker 8: location of fire starting.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Absolutely, you know it's attic spaces, and of course
Speaker 2: you want to get the vents changed out to ember
Speaker 2: proof vents and then into mess and paint on the eaves,
Speaker 2: and then just any kind of Class A rated material
Speaker 2: for the exterior walls of the house. Mike, thank you
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