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<v Speaker 1>Eight two day. It is that time of week where

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<v Speaker 1>we do it. Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>his podcast online where we get your podcast. Daniel Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>retired Lieutenant Colonel. It is always a pleasure to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on the program, and I wish we had better

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<v Speaker 1>news to talk about, but let's dive right on into it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Russia Ukraine situation day one thousand and I look

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<v Speaker 1>up and see that Vladimir Putin just signed a revised

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear doctrine today saying that any attack on Russia supported

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<v Speaker 1>by a country with nuclear power US could be grounds

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<v Speaker 1>for a nuclear response. That's frightening stuff. Daniel Davis, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasure to having you on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, thanks for having me back, and ordinarly i'd

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<v Speaker 3>be a little more shueblint about being on your show.

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<v Speaker 3>But goodness gracious, because what you just said is coupled

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<v Speaker 3>with the reported first use of long range attackem's weapons

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<v Speaker 3>inside Russia one thousand kilometers deep inside of Russia, and

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<v Speaker 3>those things come in together on the one thousandth day

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<v Speaker 3>of war, in my view, is the most dangerous place

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<v Speaker 3>we've been since this thing began, because in essence, what

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<v Speaker 3>we have done by Biden allowing this weapons to be

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<v Speaker 3>used is to call Putin's bluff. And so now we

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<v Speaker 3>have put Putin in a position, are you gonna make

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<v Speaker 3>good on your previous threats that if long range weapons

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<v Speaker 3>were used you would consider it a direct participation by

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<v Speaker 3>the West and the war and take commensurate action. Or

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<v Speaker 3>is he going to back down? Is he just going

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<v Speaker 3>to make this statement about, you know, change nuclear doctrine

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<v Speaker 3>and that's it, or is he going to actually do something.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the position that we have put him in right now,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's a bad, bad place to be and an

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly irresponsible move on the president. I have been I

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<v Speaker 3>have demurred for the most part, you know, when when

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<v Speaker 3>Biden has done things over his nearly four years now

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<v Speaker 3>in office. But this is the most egregious and unnecessary

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<v Speaker 3>risk that he has taken to date.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that was going to be the basis of

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<v Speaker 1>my initial question to you before or Putant none of

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<v Speaker 1>this announced, this new strategy or this new protocol. Why

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<v Speaker 1>did Biden approve the use of these longer range missiles

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<v Speaker 1>into the interior of Russia? Everybody knows that we're in

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<v Speaker 1>control of them. Everybody's been paying attention to the issue

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<v Speaker 1>knows they require American soldiers using to operate them. Because

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<v Speaker 1>of the sophisticated nature of them, as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>proprietary and I guess high level security clearance. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to connect with the resources that allow

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<v Speaker 1>them to work and be accurate. All of it suggests

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you think about advisors in Vietnam. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>advisors in Ukraine. That's what we're doing. That's what we're there.

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<v Speaker 1>And since they launched them, clearly we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>so we have something to do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you're specifically talking about military personnel. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 3>USR and forces have to be participating.

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<v Speaker 2>So I eat what.

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<v Speaker 3>Putin said turns out to be accurate. And listen, you

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<v Speaker 3>asked the reason why why would Biden do this? The

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<v Speaker 3>sensible claim in both the Wall Street Journal and the

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<v Speaker 3>Washington Post when this news broke that the permission had

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<v Speaker 3>been given, The unnamed senior Administration officials said, it's because

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<v Speaker 3>of North Korea. It's because they have ten thousand troops there,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is to send a signal to Pyongyang not

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<v Speaker 3>to Moscow, except now then these missiles were not fired

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<v Speaker 3>around the Coursk area, where the alleged by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>still not have been independently confirmed. They're actually there, but

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<v Speaker 3>a thousand kilometers in the Bryonsk area e nowhere close

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<v Speaker 3>to where the North Korean troops allegedly are, So that

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<v Speaker 3>puts to the lie the claim that that's the reason

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<v Speaker 3>they're being used. So we have some real difficult questions

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<v Speaker 3>to answer here, and I really hope that the media

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<v Speaker 3>puts President Biden's feet to the fire on this and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you trying to do because there is no

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean zero military utility and using a handful

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<v Speaker 3>of long range weapons at this point, nearly three years

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<v Speaker 3>into the war, on the one thousandth day, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to make any difference. And by the way, Secretary

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<v Speaker 3>of State Austin on sixth of September expressly stated that

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<v Speaker 3>it's not going to make a difference in the war.

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<v Speaker 3>It won't change anything on the front lines. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>have enough missiles. UK and France don't have enough missiles

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<v Speaker 3>to have a sustained engagement that it would be required

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<v Speaker 3>for long range missiles, you can't do with a few

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<v Speaker 3>one offs. As you saw, most of them got shot down,

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<v Speaker 3>if not all of them, And now here we are

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<v Speaker 3>at a possible red line crossing.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I find it hard that we see that

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<v Speaker 1>we're staring over the brink of this moment in history

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<v Speaker 1>and it does not look good now. The troops and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to defend North Korea in any way,

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<v Speaker 1>shape or form. I'm not going to defend Russia in

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<v Speaker 1>their active assault on Ukraine. And they intact them and

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<v Speaker 1>they invaded them, and I understand all that, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing illegal necessarily unless in fact, the North Koreans have

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<v Speaker 1>been on the front lines that are literally fighting the

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a big question mark swirling about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can answer that. But if there's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of North Korean somewhere in Russia, what's the big

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<v Speaker 1>deal unless they actively engage in war. So you're shooting

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<v Speaker 1>into the interior of Russia in order to perhaps go

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<v Speaker 1>after a target that doesn't have any military use or purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>Could possibly if they started engaging in combat. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a finite amount of missiles with a limited

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<v Speaker 1>impact in terms of their destructive power, most of which

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<v Speaker 1>is you pointed out got shot down. This seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be an absolutely pointless gesture what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I've said on some of the previous

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<v Speaker 3>episodes that we've been on together that the Russians a

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<v Speaker 3>long time ago, when the high Mar systems came in,

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<v Speaker 3>because they have a very similar guidance system etc. They're

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<v Speaker 3>electronic warfare, had basically rendered them meaningless. You hardly ever

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<v Speaker 3>hear about a high Mar strike anymore. So that we

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<v Speaker 3>don't give a missiles, it's that they don't hit the target.

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<v Speaker 3>And the same with the attacks we gave permission on

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<v Speaker 3>a limited basis for that near the front some number

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<v Speaker 3>of months ago. You don't hardly ever hear anything about

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<v Speaker 3>Attackum's missiles because Russia has figured out how to deflect

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<v Speaker 3>or shoot down most of them. So then the question

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<v Speaker 3>is why in God's name then, with something that has

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<v Speaker 3>very limited even tactical utility, would you want to allow

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<v Speaker 3>something to be fired at a strategic depth. And this

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<v Speaker 3>was fired by the way, at a base where missiles

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<v Speaker 3>were a missile depot warehouse. It had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 3>with North Korea at all, not even allegedly. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a missile depot in Russia and they were trying to

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<v Speaker 3>take that out. That's according to the Ukrainian military that

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<v Speaker 3>released that this morning. So then you get back to

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<v Speaker 3>the again your very pointy question, what is the point here?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you trying to accomplish? Because there is nothing

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<v Speaker 3>of value militarily that you can gain by this, but

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<v Speaker 3>there is enormous potential for escalation because Russia would respond

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<v Speaker 3>against us, which is what they've claimed. That's why I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so worried because we have put putin in a place.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to put a caged bait in a

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<v Speaker 3>position to either have to fight or flight. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's likely he's gonna fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he does seem to be a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>loose canyon that canon, Daniel Davis. Now, as to my

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<v Speaker 1>understanding also is that Russia recently entered into a mutual

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<v Speaker 1>defense treaty with North Korea, so if one gets attacked,

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<v Speaker 1>the other will run to its defense. Are we in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment in time as well? Did I read that correctly?

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<v Speaker 3>That is correct, that they've been They had a number

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<v Speaker 3>of agreements had already been signed in the military sphere,

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<v Speaker 3>especially with coordination and equipment, had been coming over and

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, my belief, my speculation, because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have any hard facts to back this up with, but

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<v Speaker 3>I suspect that North Korea probably said, hey, let me

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<v Speaker 3>send some of my troops over there to get some

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<v Speaker 3>combat experience or be trained by your combat experience guys,

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<v Speaker 3>so that I can bring the back train to trainer

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing and make my whole force better based

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<v Speaker 3>on modern combat techniques. That makes some sense, because it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make any sense that Russia, you know, is a

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<v Speaker 3>sign of weakness, which so many in the West want

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<v Speaker 3>to characterize this, claiming, oh, we'll see they don't have

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<v Speaker 3>enough troops. No, right, they have enough troops. There is

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<v Speaker 3>no shortage of troops in Russia. In fact, that number

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<v Speaker 3>continues to grow. So this might be something that Kim

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<v Speaker 3>Jong un wanted in exchange for all these rockets and

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<v Speaker 3>ammunition that they've been sending to Russia, not that Putin

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<v Speaker 3>needs them. So yeah, if that's what they're trying to do,

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<v Speaker 3>then then that's that's the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And it could be for North Korea, not for Russia's benefits.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, merely, I believe it is for North Korea's benefit

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimately that comes back to North Korea and South Korea,

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<v Speaker 1>which obviously have had their problems of their own since

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<v Speaker 1>the end of that or the well, whatever that conflict was,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever we call that conflict, the Korean War, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we loosely refer to it as although there was no declaration,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I don't want to have to move away

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<v Speaker 1>from from Russia. I saw that the Swedes announced to

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<v Speaker 1>their citizen reay to prepare for nuclear war, not as

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<v Speaker 1>a very unsettling thing. And also that that that inner

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<v Speaker 1>cable that was severed just the other day as well,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a revelation of it to me how easy it

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<v Speaker 1>is to accomplish such a devastating something, to have such

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<v Speaker 1>a devastating impact, which really amounts to taking a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of plyers and cutting a cable. I know it's more

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<v Speaker 1>complicated than that that just happened the other day with

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<v Speaker 1>one of these undersea internet cables. That could happen on

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<v Speaker 1>a broader scale and be unbelievably complicating from a global perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>It could. That's been one of the concerns that many

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<v Speaker 3>people have been voicing for the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 3>actually that if things got bad enough, Russia has the capacity,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as a state with you know, submarines that

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<v Speaker 3>they can take out in innerity anything that they want

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<v Speaker 3>to anywhere and would have a crippling effect economically on

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<v Speaker 3>the on the West, certainly the United States, but the

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<v Speaker 3>West in general. And by the way, just as a

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<v Speaker 3>point here, I saw I was perusing the headlines in

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<v Speaker 3>the Russian media just before coming on here, and it

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<v Speaker 3>said that there is a large scale use of expanded

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<v Speaker 3>nuclear shelters being built throughout Russia and there's this big

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<v Speaker 3>push on for that. So they are concerned about that

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<v Speaker 3>and are taking actions as well on the Russian side. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I could walk away from this conversation feel

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<v Speaker 3>a little more comfortable by global affairs Daniel Davis, But

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<v Speaker 3>today I don't think I am, And sadly we're out

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<v Speaker 3>of time. I wanted to get to Israel and what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on there. We can save that for another day,

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully that day will be next Tuesday when we

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<v Speaker 3>do another edition of The Deep Dive with Daniel Davis. Daniel,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been a real pleasure, as it always has been,

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<v Speaker 3>to get your knowledge and your expertise on things military,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll do it again next Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend always a pleasure of my friend. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>as it is for me. It's eight forty one folks.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have carec the talk stations. Stick around. Our

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<v Speaker 1>legal expert Steve Gooden returns to the program to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about again Pennsylvania in related matters. So I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>can stick a