1 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,719 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly 2 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,399 video game show. Here at first, I'm your house. 3 00:00:22,399 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: Still mustn't it with me? 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: The mech of Mecca's Taylor Field. How are you doing tonight, 5 00:00:26,679 --> 00:00:27,039 my friend? 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: Doing good? Doing good? Feel rested, recouped and ready to talk. 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the Monday of a long weekend, so 8 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:39,159 we've had a little extra time to just chill and 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,840 maybe play some video games over that over that time 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,280 as well. 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:43,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, should be fun. Episod. 12 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:46,679 Speaker 1: We're gonna tal about the Nintendo direct that happened last week, 13 00:00:46,679 --> 00:00:48,200 which you know, it's a bit of a snoozer, but 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,119 we'll we'll bring we'll bring up the things that woke 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,000 us up from it, and then we're just gonna talk 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,799 about some of the games we've been playing. We're gonna 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,759 stop that music that. 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,439 Speaker 3: Caught me up guard for a second. 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: It's funny. I don't know who it is. 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: Another one of the show on the network uses music 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,439 in their thing, and so the volume and the loop 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,120 features always like flipped whenever I come back in here, 23 00:01:07,239 --> 00:01:10,120 even though it's like a different thing, So I gotta 24 00:01:10,239 --> 00:01:12,480 check that box. But there go a little extra, a 25 00:01:12,519 --> 00:01:17,079 little extra side Quest theme A free bonus. Before we 26 00:01:17,079 --> 00:01:19,200 get into that stuff, just one shout out here at 27 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,079 the beginning is that over the last couple of weeks 28 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:25,159 here they're rather rather the second half of July, I 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,640 participated in another game jam, so we had two weeks 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,480 to make a game from start to finish. So I 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,040 worked with the team of four other people. Worked with 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,599 my friend Patrick over at the Switchheads podcast. While he's 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,680 not on the podcast anymore, but he was for many years. 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,879 It's funny he and I have been like, he's he's 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,319 been making a game kind of at the same cadence 36 00:01:43,359 --> 00:01:46,319 that I've been making potion problem. We've talked for years, 37 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,400 but like doing game jam together. So it's finally finally 38 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:50,760 got to do that. His son worked on the game too. 39 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:53,159 His son's like a really good programmer, which is really cool. 40 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,760 And then Molly and Dan, two people who I had 41 00:01:55,799 --> 00:01:57,640 just met for the first time in working on this, 42 00:01:57,719 --> 00:01:59,799 and they were kind of the narrative and music people. 43 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:02,799 So it was a really it was a really fun project, 44 00:02:03,159 --> 00:02:05,920 and we made a game called The Chosen One. The 45 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,759 theme of the jam was the only One, and we 46 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,680 went like very literal with that, where it's like a 47 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:14,479 world where all the characters are numbers and letters, like 48 00:02:14,479 --> 00:02:17,439 like anthromorphic numbers and letters, and in this world, it's 49 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:20,039 like there's a gladiatorial fights where the letters are like 50 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,000 forcing the numbers to fight, and so there's like twos 51 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:24,840 and threes and fours and five all the way up, 52 00:02:25,039 --> 00:02:27,120 and you're the only one in this whole world, and 53 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,000 so you have your kind of unique ability and then 54 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:31,800 you're kind of also the chosen one going through this 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,639 this story as well, so we're kind of we kind 56 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,680 of hit the theme in multiple ways. But yeah, it's 57 00:02:35,719 --> 00:02:38,800 mostly like a kind of gladiatorial arena combat type thing, 58 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,159 and then in between that you kind of walk through 59 00:02:41,199 --> 00:02:44,560 the different areas of the outside the gladiator, outside the 60 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:47,120 actual arena, you can talk to characters and there's some 61 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:48,919 really funny dialogue in there. Dan did a really good 62 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,479 job of writing all that stuff. So yeah, I think 63 00:02:51,479 --> 00:02:53,479 it's I think it's the game jam game I'm most 64 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,039 proud of. I think it's really well polished, really really interesting, 65 00:02:56,159 --> 00:02:59,280 good great music, great visuals and all that stuff. So 66 00:02:59,439 --> 00:03:01,599 I'm gonna put link in the description if anyone wants 67 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:02,840 to check it out. I also posted about it and 68 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:05,280 the Discord people can check it out there. Yeah, it's free. 69 00:03:05,319 --> 00:03:06,960 You can play it in your browser. The whole game, 70 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,680 I mean, depend on how well you do. It takes 71 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:10,639 like ten fifteen minutes to get through, so it's pretty 72 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,479 short experience. So yeah, people should go check that out. 73 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,280 It's been a little bit since I've been stretching the 74 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:17,680 game dev muscle, so it's fun to get kind of 75 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,080 get back in the groove of it. 76 00:03:19,159 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: Now I'm inspired. 77 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: I have another game idea I'm gonna start working on 78 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,719 here the next couple of weeks. So all very exciting stuff. 79 00:03:24,719 --> 00:03:26,560 So yeah, I just wanted to shout that out at 80 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,919 the beginning and once again link in the description for that. 81 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,240 And then I wanted to share an oddity with you, Taylor. 82 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,800 I like to do this whenever I discover like a 83 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,719 weird game I didn't know existed. 84 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:36,439 Speaker 2: Did you know that? 85 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna share my screen. I'll show you some YouTube 86 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,159 clips of this. But did you know that on the 87 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,800 N sixty four there was a South Park game? 88 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: M I feel like I did know this, Okay. 89 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: Maybe when you saw it at like a Blockbuster back 90 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:52,960 in the day or something. 91 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:55,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a tie chance that I did, but. 92 00:03:57,199 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: It's a fucking It's a first person shooter where you're 93 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,680 like throwing snowballs and I don't even know what's going 94 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,840 on in the scene that I'm showing here. I'm just 95 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,240 skipping around some play through this person. 96 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:05,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fami. 97 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: It's like literally a first person shooter where you have 98 00:04:08,719 --> 00:04:11,000 these different characters and yeah, at one point you're like 99 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,360 shooting snowballs at characters and whatnot. It seems like a 100 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:15,719 very wintery theme, which I guess most of south Park is, right, 101 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,639 but yeah, just crazy because I feel like this, like 102 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,720 the NCC four is like one of the smallest video 103 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,319 game console libraries of all time, just like. 104 00:04:24,319 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: Not a lot of games exist on it overall, and so. 105 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: It's crazy to me, Like, I didn't even know south 106 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,759 Park was a thing in like the late nineties. 107 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: I don't know when it was. 108 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: It's been going around for a while. 109 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: I always thought it was like a mid early two 110 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,800 thousands of things. I don't know when this game came 111 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,000 out exactly, but this is such an oddity to discover that. Yeah, 112 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:40,720 back in the day, it was a freaking south Park 113 00:04:40,759 --> 00:04:43,199 first person shooter on the n sixty four, a console 114 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:44,920 that didn't have a lot of first person shooters, and 115 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:47,240 like was in that era when first person shooters were 116 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,839 like being invented on consops. So it's crazy that all 117 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,000 the way back then there was this South Park game. 118 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,800 The weapon you use in this game looks crazy. I 119 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,279 don't know, it looks like at I'm sure it's not 120 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,600 a very good game, but it's crazy that it exists. 121 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: I would definitely love to try that looks like a 122 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:01,480 lot of fun. 123 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, I don't know I've yeah, because I know 124 00:05:05,879 --> 00:05:07,839 in the screenshot it shows like one of the characters. 125 00:05:07,879 --> 00:05:09,040 I don't know if you can or like one of 126 00:05:09,079 --> 00:05:10,600 the four characters, so I don't know if you can 127 00:05:10,959 --> 00:05:12,560 swap a team between them, and if. 128 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,759 Speaker 2: There's like a competitive element to it. 129 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, what a weird oddity. It's one of 130 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,439 the guy I don't know. I'm mind game video game 131 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:21,680 stores all the time looking at old games. To be fair, 132 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,480 I don't always look at like all the N sixty 133 00:05:23,519 --> 00:05:25,639 four stuff. But yeah, I don't think I've ever seen 134 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:27,639 that game before, and I don't remember from like a 135 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,800 blockbuster back in the day or anything like that, So, 136 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,759 uh crazy, do you don't think you've played it? 137 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:33,759 Speaker 2: You've just like seen it somewhere. 138 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: I've not played it that I know, but I know 139 00:05:35,199 --> 00:05:38,120 i've definitely seen it. It looks it's just very familiar. 140 00:05:39,079 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, well there you go. Shout out to that. It's 141 00:05:40,879 --> 00:05:44,720 funny too. I feel like like south Park Snow Snow 142 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:46,000 Day was that what the game was called. 143 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:47,199 Speaker 2: They came out like last year. 144 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: We're like throwing snowballs and stuff and like a three 145 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:51,120 D and I remember people were like, oh, this is 146 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,839 like a three D south Park game. But it's like, oh, 147 00:05:52,879 --> 00:05:54,439 all these years ago they actually did this. I know 148 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,839 they had the GS, but we better had another three 149 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,639 D one, So of a weird audity. But anyway, let's 150 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,240 get back to the brass tacks here. Talk about the 151 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,160 games that we've been playing. 152 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: Now. 153 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, A week or two ago, 154 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,240 you hinted to me that you had been playing something 155 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,879 you were excited to share on side quest. So I mean, 156 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,319 I'm excited to hear. You didn't tell me what game 157 00:06:13,319 --> 00:06:15,199 it was, either, so I'm curious to hear what it is. 158 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,240 I'm gonna assume it has to do with mex but 159 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:19,079 I don't know what are you playing? 160 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called Mecha Beellum here. 161 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: I heard of this mecha Bellum from the Isn't that 162 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:27,759 like the third John Wick movie? 163 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:31,199 Speaker 3: It sure is. Yeah, it's a new John Wick game 164 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,160 just came out where he's in a mec. 165 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: No. 166 00:06:34,879 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: It's a game that my my coworker, he mentioned every 167 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,920 once in a while, like he mentions these really really 168 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,879 different like books and games whatnot. And so we've got 169 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:45,839 on the topic about just games he's been playing lately, 170 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:48,720 and he mentioned Mechabellum has been taking up all his time, 171 00:06:49,399 --> 00:06:52,839 and he mentioned it, and I got really intrigued just 172 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,839 from what he was telling me, and so I youtubed 173 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,480 did Yeah, you were well looking at it right now. 174 00:06:57,519 --> 00:07:01,040 It's basically it's like it's very or game mask. You 175 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,399 have your side and the enemy has his side. And 176 00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:08,680 so let's say round one, you put down your units 177 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,759 and then the enemy does the same, and then you 178 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,959 basically hit en turn, the enemy hits en turn, and 179 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,319 then you watches the battle on folds. You're not telling 180 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,120 your troops where to attack, You're not telling them where 181 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,000 to move. There are certain things you can do that 182 00:07:19,079 --> 00:07:22,199 kind of force them and direct them. Necessarily, you're not 183 00:07:22,279 --> 00:07:27,040 controlling their trajectory. Specifically, So you end the turn and 184 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:29,160 you watch is the battle on folds, and then if 185 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:31,160 he wins, then you take some loss to your hit 186 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:33,639 points like you yo kind of if you win, they 187 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,480 take loss to their hit points, and then the next 188 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:38,439 turn starts. You get a limited amount of credits per term, 189 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,079 and you get a limited amount of unit purchases per 190 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,680 turn as well, so you have to really capitalize. Now, 191 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,319 if you make a move, he'll counter, and then you 192 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,839 have to counter that move, and you just watch return 193 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,120 unfold and see how it Basically you have to adapt 194 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:57,560 and react and it's just ground units air units, and 195 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,319 it's really really fun to implement strategies. And this has 196 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,839 been taking up a fair bit of my time lately, 197 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,120 just kind of doing some one v ones. I want 198 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,600 to free for all the other day with just four 199 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,519 v four and that was so freaking close. 200 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: So you all just kind of converge into the center. 201 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:15,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's it's really a very addicting game, and 202 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,120 it's not long because you can hop on. You can 203 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,199 do a game could be like ten minutes, and you 204 00:08:21,279 --> 00:08:24,480 have that great grace period in between where okay, I've 205 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:26,879 got everything positioned, I can just chill for like a minute, 206 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:30,040 just let everything unfold while the timer counts down, or 207 00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:32,240 you want to pay attention to the battles, but you 208 00:08:32,279 --> 00:08:34,399 don't always have to really pay attention to them, but 209 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,960 it's recommended you do. But everything that happens, it's just 210 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,679 it's really cool to see how the strategies can be 211 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,559 implemented in here, and some people are really freaking good. 212 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,399 When you think you've got a strategy that works, every time, 213 00:08:47,039 --> 00:08:49,039 something will happen and it's just a curveball and you 214 00:08:49,039 --> 00:08:51,480 have to change up the dynamic a little bit. But 215 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,279 I love calling in the units. I'm still trying to 216 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:57,039 familiarize myself with different things. But one of the cool features, 217 00:08:57,279 --> 00:08:59,360 and I'm not sure if other games have this, is 218 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,759 you can say, replay of a match, and then you 219 00:09:01,799 --> 00:09:04,639 can go into your library and go to that specific 220 00:09:04,759 --> 00:09:06,919 round of your choosing of that match and you can 221 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,279 replay it. And you can't replay from that round onwards 222 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,480 and change the outcome, but you can replay that specific 223 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,519 round to see if you could do different things to 224 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,799 actually change the outcome of that round, to see like, oh, 225 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,480 maybe this would have worked, and I can do that 226 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,759 in the future, which is a really cool feature. Yeah, 227 00:09:24,799 --> 00:09:26,879 so they're they're go ahead. 228 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask if you've been playing multiplayer or 229 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,159 like against CPUs. 230 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 3: Just multiplayer, just online multiplayer. Cool? 231 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, is there like a campaign or something like that? Said, 232 00:09:36,519 --> 00:09:37,559 there's at least tutorials. 233 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,039 Speaker 3: There's tutorial there's survival, there's a couple other things. I 234 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:41,759 don't think there was a campaign from what I saw, 235 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:44,360 but I just yeah, I just dove right into the 236 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:47,279 online multiplayer. I wanted to really, I wanted to have 237 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,039 people really test my my Metal, and it's been brutal. 238 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,960 I have a lot more losses than wins, but I 239 00:09:54,039 --> 00:09:57,279 really love the idea of just being able to counter 240 00:09:57,519 --> 00:10:01,159 and really fudge around. You can upgrade units, and then 241 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,919 your units as well, you can buy. When you upgrade, 242 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,120 they get do more damage and more they get more health. 243 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,120 But then you can actually buy specific upgrades like okay, 244 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,679 my rockets are going to be doing like incceinary damage, 245 00:10:10,799 --> 00:10:13,639 or they're going to be doing something else. Or you 246 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,159 can get big super units on the battlefield which have 247 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,679 crazy abilities as well. And then you have like two 248 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,679 tech towers, and in between each round you'll get an 249 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,440 option to select one of like four power ups. Where 250 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,519 you could get like a nuke, or you could drop 251 00:10:27,519 --> 00:10:29,720 in immediately like two units that are at a higher 252 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,360 rank or something like that. And as you're progressing each round, 253 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,519 you have to unlock new units too, which cost credits. 254 00:10:38,919 --> 00:10:41,600 So it's just you gotta be really really careful with 255 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:45,039 how you use your money to capitalize every single turn, 256 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:48,320 otherwise you're going to get screwed over hard. But it's 257 00:10:48,399 --> 00:10:49,159 so much fun. 258 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:51,759 Speaker 1: This is Yeah, this looks really cool. I'm glad you 259 00:10:51,759 --> 00:10:53,159 put this on my radar, and I already put it 260 00:10:53,159 --> 00:10:55,159 on my wish list. This is definitely a game I'll 261 00:10:55,159 --> 00:10:57,399 all pick up at some point because when I first 262 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,000 saw it, the first couple of clips there like it 263 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,960 looked very star like in terms of the art style, 264 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,919 but also like the battles at first, but then obviously 265 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:05,440 seeing more of it and you kind of describe in 266 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,399 the turn based nature of it, so I feel like 267 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,519 it almost like scratches that StarCraft itch. But obviously StarCraft 268 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,960 is such a like high skill cap game, and it's 269 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,000 like if you haven't played StarCraft in a yearor two 270 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,360 and you come back to it, it's like, oh, fuck, 271 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:18,720 I don't want to play this game anymore. Where is 272 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:20,879 this Because it's slower paced, some more like strategic rather 273 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,320 than tech skill, I feel like it could yeah kind 274 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,200 of hit some of those same things. And yeah, like 275 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,320 the art style is very StarCraft two as well, which 276 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,039 I which I really like. So yeah, this game looks 277 00:11:30,039 --> 00:11:32,200 super cool and really unique. I know that's been like 278 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,039 kind of an emerging genre maybe, I guess it's probably 279 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,639 been a few years now of like the auto battler 280 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,960 type things where you're kind of picking your new units, 281 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,000 buying your units, and then signing them out, but you 282 00:11:41,039 --> 00:11:44,639 don't actually like control the combat itself, which I haven't 283 00:11:44,639 --> 00:11:46,039 really like tried a lot of those games, but I 284 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,200 know they're like pretty popular, like team fight tactics. 285 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: And then there's like a Dodo one too, right. 286 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: So I one question I have, like based off what 287 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,000 I'm seeing here, it's like it looks very symmetrical, like 288 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,159 your units like like all these guys are kind of 289 00:11:59,279 --> 00:12:02,360 on opposite side and like you know, your big guys, 290 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,639 like maybe there's one on the weft side, one on 291 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:05,960 the right side. Like are you picking where individual units 292 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,519 go or are you like just buying units and then 293 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,559 the game like auto places them on the battlefield. 294 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: So basically you get your two towers and then right 295 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,919 in between them is your spawn points. So when you 296 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,480 buy your units, it'll drop your units right there, and 297 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:19,200 then you have a grid on your side, and that 298 00:12:19,279 --> 00:12:23,039 grid you can basically place your guys anywhere you can't 299 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,200 move them. That's the thing. When you place a squad down, 300 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,840 they're there for good. You cannot move. Now, there are 301 00:12:29,919 --> 00:12:32,879 certain things that you get redeployments where you can move 302 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,399 them around. I think only specific units have those, and 303 00:12:37,399 --> 00:12:40,320 it's not a lot, so you are very much like 304 00:12:40,519 --> 00:12:43,559 landlocked into where you put your characters. So that's why 305 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,879 you got to really make sure from the start you're 306 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,120 playing a very strategic style and technique and when you 307 00:12:51,159 --> 00:12:54,000 get a unit, you're not just getting well, some units 308 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:57,120 are just one, but then some of the other things 309 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,240 that you buy is like a squad of guys. So 310 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:01,559 you could buy this unit and it could be like 311 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:04,679 four tanks for missile launchers whatever, or this is like 312 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,000 one giant mech sniper or one giant anti air like 313 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,320 truck or something like that. So there's different groupings. But 314 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,799 it's a grid stuff, so you can choose where you 315 00:13:14,799 --> 00:13:17,320 want to place things, and that being said, where you 316 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,200 have your side on the enemy side, they give you 317 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,519 the ability to have two spots on the left and 318 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,679 right of the enemy base. So if you want, if 319 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,559 you're fighting and you're going head on and you just 320 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,440 want to throw a curveball, well I'm just gonna pump 321 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:31,879 like a whole little mini army on the flank and 322 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:34,480 then you see, Okay, this guy's going to put a 323 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,840 huge army of troops there and try and counter that, 324 00:13:36,919 --> 00:13:39,799 and then you're re like fortifying the other side of 325 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:41,720 the map here. So you can really just it's not 326 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:44,759 always to head on and direct. You can definitely change 327 00:13:44,759 --> 00:13:45,840 the dynamic a little bit. 328 00:13:46,919 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: So and then what how was the like what was 329 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:50,519 the wind condition for a single match, Like if you 330 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,039 have to win, I guess you just have knocked down 331 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:54,159 their hit points. So if you have like an overwhelming victory, 332 00:13:54,159 --> 00:13:56,000 would you deal more or is it always like, oh 333 00:13:56,039 --> 00:13:58,360 I won this battles like at one point, so you 334 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:58,759 like go. 335 00:13:58,679 --> 00:13:59,919 Speaker 2: To a like three or whatever. 336 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,399 Speaker 3: All the units that are on the field count for 337 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:06,440 different different points basically, so if. 338 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: They do a different mount damage to face versus like 339 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,320 dealing damage to units. 340 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: If he let's say you wipe out. All my enemies 341 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:16,399 are all my guys, and you have like a squadron 342 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:19,519 of small basic units and then one big heavy titan 343 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,559 and you have four thousand points each for your life. 344 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,639 Now the small guys will deal like multiple, like twenties 345 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:28,759 of damage. Now that again, this is this is after 346 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:31,159 the battle is ended, all my guys are defeated. So 347 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:34,320 all the guys that you have left, that's what counts 348 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,840 as damage directly to my life points. So your little 349 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,399 guys would be like twenty each, and then your big 350 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,600 titan would be like four hundred points. Boom, that just 351 00:14:40,679 --> 00:14:42,519 knocks a big chunk. So you kind of want to 352 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:44,440 keep the titans alive to the end of the turn 353 00:14:44,799 --> 00:14:48,519 because then you're dealing more damage. Yeah, it's a very 354 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:53,320 different type of way of dealing damage in a like 355 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,440 a strategy game like this, unless there are other games 356 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,360 that do it like that. I've never experienced it. So 357 00:14:57,399 --> 00:14:59,440 in the first match that I played, I did not 358 00:14:59,519 --> 00:15:01,559 understand what was going on, and just damage is just 359 00:15:01,639 --> 00:15:03,279 rolling in because I kept losing the rounds. 360 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this looks cool. Is there different factions 361 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,840 or like, how does how do you differentiate like your 362 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,120 armies between players? 363 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: All the units are the same. Every faction has the 364 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,960 same units the different factions. Now, when you load into 365 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,919 a game, you'll get like a choice between three or 366 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,519 four different leaders, and those leaders it's very they're always 367 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:24,840 so randomized and different. Each leader you get to randomly 368 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:27,759 pick will have different abilities, like Okay, this one gives 369 00:15:27,799 --> 00:15:29,759 you a nuke on round two. This one give you 370 00:15:29,799 --> 00:15:32,840 fifty extra supplies every turn. This one will give you 371 00:15:32,919 --> 00:15:36,840 like two extra units on turn five or something like that. 372 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,440 So or this one has overall more life points for 373 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,759 each unit. So there's so many different things, and it 374 00:15:42,799 --> 00:15:44,639 really depends what you're feeling at the time when you 375 00:15:44,679 --> 00:15:46,000 want to get into it. 376 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's cool. 377 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: Is this like uh, like I don't know how much 378 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,080 how much time does like one battle take usually, Like 379 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,399 if you're just doing like a one B one, is 380 00:15:56,399 --> 00:15:58,080 it like a twenty minute affair? 381 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: I feel like it's like ten minutes. It's not that long. 382 00:16:01,559 --> 00:16:04,679 It's pretty quick. And like if the round the rounds 383 00:16:04,679 --> 00:16:06,919 are usually about a minute, and then you can just 384 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,879 if you know you're going to be losing or you 385 00:16:08,879 --> 00:16:10,519 just want to accelerate it. There's a speed up option 386 00:16:10,679 --> 00:16:12,759 to kind of like pump through a little bit quicker. 387 00:16:13,559 --> 00:16:13,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 388 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I know you're obviously a big RTS guy, 389 00:16:17,559 --> 00:16:18,720 but I feel like you're not really playing a lot 390 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,360 of RTS these days. Does it Does it feel like 391 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,720 it's scratching that itch or is that just more like 392 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,639 me seeing the trailer and thinking it looks like starcrap. 393 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: It's scratched in the itch for sure, because that's that's 394 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,399 one of the biggest reasons why I want to get 395 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:30,840 into it, just what my my coworker was telling me. 396 00:16:31,159 --> 00:16:34,039 On top of that, I'm not necessarily the biggest fan 397 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:38,679 of turn based strategy games, so when right, this is 398 00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:41,399 just it creates a very nice blend of the two 399 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,759 where it's fast paced and yes it is turn based, 400 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:48,159 but I still feel like it's I don't I don't 401 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,080 know how to explain it. It's just got a yeah, 402 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:55,120 RTS kind of style to it with with turns in 403 00:16:55,159 --> 00:16:58,240 the mix, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great. 404 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,399 Speaker 2: Uh Are you a big guy? Generally speaking? 405 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 3: Not really? No, which I feel like a lot of 406 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,200 OURTS games incorporate lots of mechs. Halo Wars has lots 407 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,880 of mechs in it. There's another one called Supreme Commander two, 408 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,200 which I played the daylights out of back in the day, 409 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,720 and that one has a lot of mechs in it 410 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:19,640 as well, and like super units and whatnot. What other 411 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,640 ones have mechs in them? I guess StarCraft has has 412 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:25,039 mechs of sorts in there. 413 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:27,319 Speaker 2: I guess it does. 414 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, but something like titan Fall. I never got into 415 00:17:30,079 --> 00:17:31,839 the titan Fall, even though I own I think I 416 00:17:31,839 --> 00:17:33,400 have a copy of titan Fall in my house, but 417 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,000 I'm not actually jumped on that. 418 00:17:36,839 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one I want to That's like a big 419 00:17:38,759 --> 00:17:40,400 backlog one for me. I gotta check it out at 420 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:40,839 some point. 421 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: H I think they just added mes into what is 422 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:48,319 it called? Oh my gosh, it comes out this month, 423 00:17:49,279 --> 00:17:51,200 and I think we're all gonna be getting it and 424 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,480 playing it. Hell Divers, geez, hell Divers. Oh, they have 425 00:17:55,519 --> 00:17:58,119 mechs in there, I'm pretty sure, don't they. 426 00:17:58,759 --> 00:18:00,319 Speaker 1: I would have I would imagine, so, oh yeah, I 427 00:18:00,319 --> 00:18:01,839 don't like, I don't know if you can ride in them, 428 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,319 but you can at least like call them down, like 429 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,200 do airstrikes and like, I don't know, take out some 430 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:08,519 enemies or maybe you battle because I know there's like 431 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,000 one of the factions you fight or like robots, I think, right, 432 00:18:11,079 --> 00:18:13,759 so I could see there being like some bigger mech 433 00:18:13,799 --> 00:18:14,720 types in there. 434 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,519 Speaker 3: And you're getting it right. You're gonna hop on with 435 00:18:16,519 --> 00:18:17,079 with all of us. 436 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: I kind of forgot about when is that coming out 437 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:19,480 again on Xbox. 438 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: I thought it was the twenty fourth I thought, but 439 00:18:24,319 --> 00:18:25,839 I could be wrong. 440 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,799 Speaker 2: Let me try and find out here. I'm curious. 441 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,839 Speaker 3: I want to say it's the least the twenties. 442 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty sixth, the parent twenty six Okay, yeah, yeah, 443 00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:41,920 I mean I can already get it on PlayStation now 444 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,119 and it has whole cross but it looks like but yeah, no, 445 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:46,559 I'm definitely down, I cause I was saying too. I 446 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:49,000 think Travis last week that like August is a bit 447 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:51,799 of like a empty period for me. There's not really 448 00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:54,279 anything coming out that I'm picking up, and then like 449 00:18:54,319 --> 00:18:56,039 October is when things get busy. So I feel like 450 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,000 end of August, cruise through like September with with Helldivers 451 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,039 would be a good time, yeah, and get probably distracted 452 00:19:02,079 --> 00:19:03,440 and then maybe come back in the winter when I 453 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,240 have more time again. 454 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah that sounds good. 455 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,039 Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely definitely excited to get into some 456 00:19:08,079 --> 00:19:08,920 hell Divers Action. 457 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 3: One more game that I haven't played yet, but it 458 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,359 was funny because the Toys r us here is closing down, 459 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,119 and so me and Madison went in there checking out 460 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,839 the sales. It is sad, they had some good deals 461 00:19:20,839 --> 00:19:23,079 in there and whatnot. But I saw they had a 462 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,319 clearance shelf on top of them doing the blowout closing 463 00:19:26,319 --> 00:19:30,200 down clearance, and it was thirty percent off on the shelf. 464 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,200 And then they had this game marked down already super low. 465 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,920 The game was marked down to eleven dollars and then 466 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,880 thirty percent. On top of that is Watchdog's Legion, which 467 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,039 I never played, and it was always what I was 468 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,400 really wanting to get around to trying. And I know 469 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,839 it's on the Ubisoft Plus, but that's periodic that I 470 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,440 have it. I don't know. 471 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:49,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not on that. 472 00:19:49,799 --> 00:19:53,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the game came to like seven dollars six 473 00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:57,119 bucks something like that. I thought, that's totally reasonable, and 474 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,640 it's a game that I know I will enjoy playing 475 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,200 it because I love that first one. So yeah, I 476 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:05,160 have it now in my library and that's gonna be 477 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,960 something that I eventually get to. 478 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:08,599 Speaker 2: Nice. 479 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, give me give me heads up when you ever, 480 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,839 whenever you think you're gonna jump into it, because that's 481 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,519 been on my radar. Two, I'm sure it's pretty cheap 482 00:20:15,519 --> 00:20:18,599 now even if I don't subscribe to you'd be soft whatever. 483 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,160 But yeah, cause I played Watchdogs too. The last time 484 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,519 I was subscribed to, uh, you'd be self plus and 485 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,960 either when we were doing Star Wars or Assassin's Creator 486 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,599 earlier this year for. 487 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 2: Which one it was, and I had like a decent time. 488 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,440 But I think Legion, like a lot of the. 489 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: Mechanics in there, I'm really great and I still really 490 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,960 want to check it out. So yeah, if you are 491 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,480 ever jumping in, let me know, And maybe we can 492 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,279 make a little side quest episode all about that, because 493 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:40,039 that'd be super fun. 494 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,079 Speaker 3: Is it a multiplayer on like online world that we 495 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,119 could connect in game with? 496 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:43,839 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 497 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,759 Speaker 3: No, Okay, okay, sweet, I mean. 498 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: It kind of like thematically, I feel like it maybe should, 499 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,519 but it's a single player only. 500 00:20:53,279 --> 00:20:53,799 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. 501 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,079 Speaker 1: Let me look on Steam real quick mixed reviews, classic 502 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,799 online co op online cops. So maybe you can g 503 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,319 GA and just like hop an open world map together. 504 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: Car accidents and changing stop lights and stuff. 505 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: Hacking into buildings. Yeah, that would be that could be 506 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:11,119 super fun. 507 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm gay, I'm down. I'm down. 508 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm sold any more sacred stones. Remember I said, I'm 509 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,839 gonna beg you. I'm gonna ask you about you. I'm 510 00:21:21,839 --> 00:21:22,559 gonna ask you about this. 511 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,279 Speaker 3: Keep keep coming down on me for that, please do no. 512 00:21:29,599 --> 00:21:31,599 Speaker 2: Dang. Okay, okay, fair enough. 513 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: I have two games to share, and I'll share them now. 514 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,319 Speaker 2: Then we can do ad brick later. 515 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: But uh so first one actually, funnily enough, this game 516 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:42,880 has some mechs in it too. I picked up a 517 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,480 new game that came out earlier this year, a game 518 00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:50,559 called Metal Garden. Metal Garden is yeah, very under the radar. 519 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,640 Like I, I didn't hear about anything about it when 520 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,920 it came out, but I was on the Great Backlog 521 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,200 dot com from someone I follow in there. I saw 522 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,880 a quick review of it and like just read like 523 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,000 a paragraph and I was like, oh, hell yeah, this 524 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:02,400 game sounds like my cup of tea. 525 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,319 Speaker 2: Went check it down Steam. 526 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: It's like seven dollars, so I grabbed it. Metal Garden 527 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,200 is I don't know how to describe this game. 528 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:09,759 Speaker 2: It's a it's a. 529 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: First person shooter, but I'd also say kind of like 530 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,480 a Edith Finch type game where it's like a short, 531 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,480 very narrative, atmospheric focus thing as well. But obviously the yeah, 532 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,279 there is like some combat arenas that you're doing in 533 00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:23,359 there as well. The setting of it is it's set 534 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,960 within this kind of enormously impossibly large megastructure. So I 535 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,680 almost picture like if you lived only the inside of 536 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,799 like the Death Star or something like that. So if 537 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:35,079 you like look up at the sky, like past the clouds, 538 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,799 because there's like nature and everything, but if you look 539 00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:39,400 past the clouds, there's just you can just see like 540 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,160 this endless metal wall of metal structure that just kind 541 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,200 of goes over over top of everything, and it's like 542 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,079 a crazy setting where like you live in this world 543 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,839 and as I said, there's like nature and things and 544 00:22:49,839 --> 00:22:52,799 people live in this world even though like no one's 545 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:55,200 been able to ever get out of this megastructure. It's 546 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,200 like a giant prison. But at the same time, like 547 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,319 the lore is crazy, like there's been entire civilizations that 548 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,960 have come to rise and then fallen over the hundreds 549 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,519 of thousands of years that people have lived in this megastructure, 550 00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:08,720 So it's just like this impossibly the impossible thing where 551 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,119 like I guess people even have like a conception of 552 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,960 what life was like before that because it's just been 553 00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:15,880 so long that whatever this group of people, I don't 554 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,640 even know how many people, because it's pretty small scale 555 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,400 game have been in this so really cool setting, and 556 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,759 the vibes and like the atmosphere of it are like perfect, 557 00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:26,799 really encapsulated that the music is really good. At times 558 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:29,519 it's just like kind of really creepy and ominous, and 559 00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:31,880 then like you know, gets a little bit more quicker 560 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,880 pace for like the combat sequences, but the atmosphere is great. 561 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,759 I really like the visuals. It's like I get I was. 562 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,240 I would say like maybe a PS two sort of style, 563 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:44,079 but maybe a little bit more high reds than that. 564 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:46,880 But it's still like pretty low detail. It feels very 565 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:48,960 Xbox three sixteen that it's like a lot of grays, 566 00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:51,359 a lot of like muted greens, a lot of browns, 567 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,839 like very very earth tones, very dark and crunchy, and 568 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,920 like the world is not a happy place. People are 569 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,240 not you know, don't have a high quality of life 570 00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:01,759 living in this place, so it's very dire. You don't 571 00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:04,240 ever really talk to anyone, like you're kind of just 572 00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:06,119 on your own. And when you start the game, you're 573 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,480 kind of down a broken down mech, which I assume 574 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:10,920 is like was your mech and it's like just not 575 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,039 function anymore. So now you're just kind of taking whatever 576 00:24:13,079 --> 00:24:15,240 gear you can salvage from it, and you're just off 577 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,839 off on your way on foot. But like you're not 578 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,880 you didn't come from a town or like have any 579 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,480 friends or anything like that. You're just kind of this 580 00:24:21,559 --> 00:24:25,720 lone creature all on your own. The whole game is 581 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,119 really short, like I beat it in like an hour 582 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,920 and a half. I did it in one sitting. There 583 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,960 are a couple of things. There's almost like like Halo 584 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:34,480 skulls that like on log after you beat the game, 585 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:35,960 so you can like put modifiers on it. So I'm 586 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,200 sure if you want to play it again, there'd be 587 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,559 other things, and there's like little secrets I missed along 588 00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:39,960 the way. 589 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: But it's a short game. 590 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,079 Speaker 1: I definitely recommend it though, even this, you know, seven 591 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,559 dollars a hour and a half, so it's kind of 592 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:48,039 you can put that calculus and if it's worth worth 593 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:48,519 it for you. 594 00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:50,079 Speaker 2: But I really enjoyed it. 595 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: I really love the story, and I think i've been 596 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,400 so intocified the last couple of years that I found 597 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,759 this setting really interesting. I don't want to spoil like 598 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,480 the story bits that happen, and like, you know, even 599 00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:01,160 the halfway through, because this game is so short that 600 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,119 it's hard to not like spoil anything. I pretty much 601 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,960 just said the premise and I don't really want to 602 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,839 say more. I guess, like maybe the hook at the 603 00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,720 start of the game is that like there's this faction 604 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:11,079 that may be found a way out of the megastructure, 605 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,799 sobviously has a good carrot on the stick of like 606 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,839 what your character is trying to do trying to find 607 00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:18,359 out more information about that. So yeah, really cool, vibe, 608 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,680 really interesting. The writing's really great as well. And then 609 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,160 the combat is like, you know, it's bare bones, it's basic. 610 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,480 There's like three weapons you get throughout the game. There's 611 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,799 like three enemy types in the whole game, so it's 612 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:30,960 pretty basic, but like it feels good, Like the movement's good, 613 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,160 you have a double jump, and then like the weapons 614 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,799 are not hits gam like I guess there's like there's 615 00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:39,160 like bullet time like travel times, so it's like fun 616 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,119 trying to juke and dodge them while you know, trying 617 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,279 to get the kills as well. You have like a sniper, 618 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,200 so it almost feels like a bit bit like Halo 619 00:25:46,279 --> 00:25:48,559 on no Way, just like flying around the screen jumping 620 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:50,519 and trying to get some flying headshots and stuff like that. 621 00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:52,920 So yeah, really really fun. Like the rag doll physics 622 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,359 are great too. When you take it an enemy, they 623 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,119 just like fly down the hill all that kind of stuff. 624 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,799 But yeah, Metal Gardens on Steam. I think it's only 625 00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:01,599 on Steam, and I think it's like the first game 626 00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:04,559 from this developer. Uh so it's it's something something fresh, 627 00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:07,599 something different. But I really really enjoyed this game, thought 628 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:10,160 it was a really special, unique sort of vibe. So uh, 629 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,039 I think I think you might like it, Taylor, considering 630 00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:13,559 you're a first person shooter guy, I feel like you've 631 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:15,359 never really I don't know if you've played many like 632 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,759 indie first person shooters. I can't really think of any, 633 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,920 but this this would be a good a good one 634 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,599 to check out if you're interested in it. 635 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, cool, it's a cool game. 636 00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: The other game that I jumped in and checked out 637 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,319 because this was recently added to tend to Switch online 638 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,039 and I kind of played it more for the history 639 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,000 lesson of it then, like actually wanted to get into it. 640 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,559 Speaker 2: Is Mario Paint. 641 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: They put Mario Paint on the Yeah, yeah, did you 642 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,079 play this game back in later I didn't know anything 643 00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:45,880 about it. I know, yes, yeah, back in the day, 644 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,759 like on the SN E S this game Mario Paint, 645 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,680 because you know, it is exactly what it sounds like. 646 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,599 You just like draw pictures and there isn't really a 647 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,400 game to it. There's no campaign or story like you 648 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,799 just you just draw on like a pixel grid pretty much. 649 00:26:57,519 --> 00:26:59,440 But what I found shocking that I never knew about 650 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,079 this game is that on the S and E S 651 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,279 it came bundled with like a mouse that you'd plug 652 00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:06,680 into the controller port. And so obviously you draw with 653 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:08,799 a mouse, which makes sense. That'd be a lot better 654 00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:11,160 than using an SNS controller that doesn't even have like 655 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,920 a joystick on it, right, But it was so weird 656 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,559 to me. That's like, oh yeah, like the switch to 657 00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:19,000 and having mouse functionality was like such a big I 658 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,640 guess it was kind of a selling point of the console. 659 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: The is like a big new thing. 660 00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: But it's like, man, all the way back in the 661 00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:26,880 SNES era, like they had like a mouse attachment for 662 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,799 this console. This is like not a new thing for Nintendo, 663 00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:32,200 and even on the N sixty four, at least in Japan. 664 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,920 I don't think I ever released in North America. But 665 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,079 they did another Mario Paine game for the N sixty four, 666 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,839 and I'm guessing that came also with like a I 667 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,640 don't know, maybe they didn't, because N sixty four actually 668 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,480 had like a joystick that you could use, but I 669 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,200 don't know, maybe that also came with a mouse. But 670 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,759 it's just interesting that there's like this random little period 671 00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:50,839 there in the nineties where Nintendo was like using mouse tech. 672 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: For like one game everything. 673 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I guess that like that, that's that is true. 674 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,119 That was the era of like peripherals out the ass, 675 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,480 like all the way up to the WE era, just 676 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:04,079 peripherals everywhere for like all sorts of things, and then 677 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,119 they just kind of put it on ice for many years. 678 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,559 And now with the switch To, it's like a built 679 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:10,400 in functionality. But I found that especially strange. It's like 680 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:13,319 in that initial reveal trailer of the switch To, they 681 00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:15,920 show up the most functionality and we've got the direct 682 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,319 Obviously they explained it a little bit more, but then 683 00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:22,240 it's like there's no games that use this feature, right, 684 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,279 like no indie games or or you know, third party 685 00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:27,119 games use it. I think the only thing that did 686 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,839 at launch was Welcome to or like that. You know, 687 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,319 it should have pinned the pack in, but it was 688 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,039 like that janky little thing that had like a couple 689 00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:35,519 of minigames in there that you'd use the most functionality. 690 00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:38,880 And now this like they put the most functionality into 691 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,200 this version of the game, obviously because you can't actually 692 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,759 use this game with a controller, like you need a 693 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:44,599 mouse to use it, and it says that when you 694 00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:46,759 go on the collection, it says most functionality required, which 695 00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:50,599 I find is so interesting, and then nothing else I 696 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,720 don't think, like maybe I think don Keyong Bonanza has 697 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,680 like the almost like you know have like the Mario 698 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,000 sixty four how you can like pull on Mario's face 699 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,519 in different ways. It's almost like that in Donkey Kong, 700 00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:02,039 but you like paint and they can like draw in 701 00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:04,400 this old sculpture. I think there's most functionality for that 702 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,079 you can use. I didn't even try that in all 703 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:08,759 my time in Bonanza because I don't really care about that, 704 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,200 but like that, maybe that has most most functionality and 705 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,519 then that wheelchair game that they announced is coming out soon, 706 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:17,759 so finally like another game that's really using the most functionality. 707 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:19,599 But it's just so weird to me that they'd launch 708 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,279 a console and like there's this feature on it, but 709 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:24,480 you can't really use it for anything other than like 710 00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:27,079 I guess, going around the menu, but it's like there's 711 00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:29,000 not much going on on like the main screen of 712 00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:30,720 the Switch, so I don't really you don't need like 713 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,240 a mose to fan dangle around it. And so this 714 00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:36,160 is really the first time I've like I've tried using 715 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,960 the most functionality and like, you know, it's fine, it's 716 00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:40,160 you know, gets the job done. 717 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: It's not great. 718 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,599 Speaker 1: It feels weird to use it on the coach like 719 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,920 I was, but it seems weird to me, like this 720 00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:47,240 was not even though this isn't a new game by 721 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,960 any means. I feel like this is something you gotta 722 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,559 have available in the catalog, like day one of the 723 00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:52,839 Switch too. I feel like this is a great way 724 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,079 for people to like check out the most functionality in 725 00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:58,000 a way, or I heard. I remember after the Switch 726 00:29:58,039 --> 00:30:00,079 to was announced and people saw the most functionality. I 727 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,119 remember hearing podcasts people theorizing like, oh, a new Mario 728 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,880 Paint like packing game would be a great, simple little 729 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,759 tool to get in there for people to figure out 730 00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:10,440 how this most functionality works. Doesn't have to be much, 731 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,240 just a simple little like you know, editor, make some 732 00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:15,200 funny pictures, share the money and the internet, you know, 733 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,440 get some good social media clicks, like all good marketing stuff. 734 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:20,240 But they didn't do that. But then they put Mario 735 00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:21,759 Paint on here like a month later. So it's a 736 00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:23,880 really weird. But I just found it like a fun 737 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,240 history lesson that, Like it was interesting that they made 738 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,359 a mouse all these years ago and like finally they're 739 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,960 coming back to it. Yeah, Like I don't know, Like 740 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:33,880 I you know, I guess Metro Prime four, we know 741 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,319 that is going to have you know, you can use 742 00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:37,160 most controls through the first person shooter. But it just 743 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,240 seems like so weird. I wonder how much like money 744 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,440 of R and D went into like building this most 745 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,359 functionality to get to work and then just like to 746 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,599 not really use it or especially at launch, for it 747 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,359 to just not really be a feature you can use 748 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,319 is super weird to me. 749 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I imagined, you know, you highlighting that they could 750 00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:57,279 have maybe could have been the idea that maybe do 751 00:30:57,319 --> 00:30:59,160 a new Mario paint in the future. With switch To, 752 00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:00,960 I don't think that it's a written off idea. I 753 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,720 feel like you could see something like that come around 754 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:03,240 the corner. 755 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it will get more. There 756 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,799 will be a lot more third parties that are taking 757 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:10,680 advantage of it too in the future, and maybe you 758 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,400 could see like, oh, games that were only ever on 759 00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:17,279 PC because they kind of require mouse, like for example, 760 00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:19,359 Potion Problem, a game I would never consider like port 761 00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:20,799 to a console because I only ever built it with 762 00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:23,640 like most controls in mind. But like now maybe maybe 763 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,079 I'm not going to do it because I think it'd 764 00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:27,279 be really expensive. But like you know, that's like a 765 00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:29,519 thing that other developers might look at and see as 766 00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:31,920 like an opportunity. But I know one of the big 767 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,799 things that Switched to, like a lot of thing that's 768 00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:36,680 come out, is that, like Nintendo was not good about 769 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,759 giving dev kits to many people at all to make 770 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,920 games for the console. That's why it's taken so long 771 00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:45,599 to get like a lot of ports and things that 772 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,880 might seem like slam dunks, but it's just taken so long. 773 00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:49,839 And so I think that's probably a big reason it's 774 00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:52,440 like not a lot of the developers making games for 775 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:54,799 the switch to I've even had the tech that long 776 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,640 to figure out how it can work and get it 777 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,880 to program with their game correctly. So I think we'll 778 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,000 see more of it over time, but right now it 779 00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:03,839 just seems like such a kind of weird miss of 780 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,359 a feature. So I'm really curious to see, like two 781 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,799 years from now when we look back on it, like, 782 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,680 what how is this most functionality? 783 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: Is it a thing we use? 784 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,759 Speaker 1: Is it a thing we're excited for? Is I think 785 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:14,559 we care about? Is any thing the developers care about? 786 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,640 Because it didn't even seem to be like some gimmick 787 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,160 for some launch title, Like I don't think anyone like 788 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,880 bought Welcome to or just be like, oh I really 789 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,440 want to see the most most functionality works, so kind 790 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:26,680 a kind of a weird I don't know, just decision 791 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,599 all around. And then the other thing I found funny 792 00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:31,599 about Mario Pain is there are like two mini games 793 00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:33,880 in there as well, and one of them is essentially 794 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,359 like a you have a fly swatter and then it 795 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:37,720 will flies fly across the screen and use the you know, 796 00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:39,720 mouse to track them. Down and smack them with a swatter, 797 00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:41,599 which I think might be a similar thing. It's in 798 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,240 Welcome to Her actually funnily enough. But then also I 799 00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:49,000 played a Mario some Mario or not Mario Warrio Warrio 800 00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:52,160 ware game recently and it had that same minigame of 801 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,799 like the fly swatter, and I never realized that there's 802 00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:55,400 a reference because a lot of the Warrior where mini 803 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,240 games are like references, like you do a little bit 804 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,000 for Mario, a little bit from this game of that game. 805 00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:01,039 So I never realized that the fly swater thing was 806 00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:02,759 like just ripped from Mario Paint, which is kind of 807 00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:05,799 a fun, I don't know, fun weird little connection of 808 00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:09,240 like Nintendo history. So yeah, I don't know. I spent 809 00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:11,160 like ten to fifteen minutes screw now with this thing 810 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,839 interesting to do, just to see how the most functionality works. 811 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,680 But yeah, weird to me that it was not a 812 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:18,799 launch title. But there you go, Mario Paint. I guess 813 00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:20,279 this is a finally chance for them to port this 814 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,599 game because they don't need to make new hardware for 815 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,640 people to play because it's just built them into console. 816 00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:27,559 Speaker 2: So weird Nintendo stuff. I love it. 817 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: Okay, how about with that, we hoped to our first 818 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,160 at break. We'll be right back to talk about the 819 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:35,920 Nintendo Direct. 820 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,519 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. Okay, we are back. 821 00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: So last week there was a much rumored Nintendo Direct. 822 00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:46,880 There are a lot of rumors murmurs that this was 823 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,839 happening in the month of July, and it's funny that 824 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,160 literally happened on the last day of July, so technically 825 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,799 not wrong, but yeah, it was like the longest way 826 00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:56,400 you could possibly ask for. It makes a lot of sense. 827 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,960 I feel like that usually Nintendo does a direct in 828 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,880 like Juni or July, and it made a lot of 829 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,960 sense to wait until down Kongo Bananza comes out to 830 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,880 do one after that. Now they want to advertise some 831 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,960 new stuff then. I think maybe the surprise for a 832 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000 lot of people was that it was in Hindo partner direct, 833 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,519 so meaning no first party games. The only thing that 834 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,760 was really a Nintendo in there was Zelda Age of 835 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,599 Calamity wherever that new Iral Warriors game is, because that's 836 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,639 not actually developed by Nintendo, just published by them, So yeah, 837 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:24,800 it's a Nintendo partner director was like twenty five thirty 838 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,800 minutes long or something like that. Taylor, I know you 839 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,599 and I both kind of just skimmed through it because 840 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,519 there was not a whole lot of big, exciting things 841 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:33,000 in there. But I guess maybe my question that is 842 00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:34,679 because like neither of us are think are super jazz 843 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:36,199 about this. There are a few games to talk about, 844 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,559 but I think maybe my main question for you is like, 845 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:41,199 was this the right call? Was this the right call 846 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,679 to do? Just like a complete snoozer of a direct, 847 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,960 like as the first direct post launch of this new console. 848 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,559 Does this matter at all, like the fact that they 849 00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:51,559 just kind of put this thing out there, or should 850 00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:53,320 they have like maybe waited a month or two until 851 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,840 they had a little bit more sauce to announce, like 852 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,360 a Metroid release date or other things like that. 853 00:34:57,559 --> 00:34:59,119 Speaker 3: I would have loved a little bit more sauce, to 854 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:02,599 be honest, some thing heavy here. Because yes, the console 855 00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,400 came out, people went crazy got Mario Kart. That's great, 856 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,679 But there are people like me that aren't hopping on 857 00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:09,800 the Donkey Kong train right away the games. You know, 858 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,039 it's done great, it's well reviewed, and people are excited 859 00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:13,360 about it, but there's still a lot of us that 860 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,119 want something else on top of there. I'm happy I 861 00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,559 can play my Switch one catalog. That's fantastic. I'm happy 862 00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:21,159 if they're adding games to Switch Online, but it would 863 00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:23,960 have been nice to get some something else. And I'm 864 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,880 not saying it has to be first party stuff because 865 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,559 you said it's it's third party presentation direct, which is fine. 866 00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:34,800 So give us something, you know, something third party in 867 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,760 there that could be really exciting. Would a fire emblem 868 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,599 be a third party? 869 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: No that they're owned by Nintendo. 870 00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, gosh, then I mean there's got to be 871 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,400 something that they could just pop in there with It 872 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,639 would be exciting. I mean, yeah, I mean another console, 873 00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:54,599 maybe like an xbox Y title or something. 874 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get. 875 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean I assume that's gonna be happening. I think 876 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,079 for Xbox I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 877 00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:03,639 similar thing where a lot of developers haven't had the 878 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,559 like dev kits to make the Switch two games yet, 879 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,280 or like maybe they just have it more recently. So 880 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,760 I think it might take a bit of time. Just 881 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,880 because of hearing how Nintendo's really slow to roll those 882 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,360 out to people, I think that maybe that's the hold 883 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,119 up then, is like maybe we'll start to see a 884 00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:20,119 bunch more of those Xbox games come over when they 885 00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,960 can determine, Okay, which games can like actually run. 886 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 2: On the switch too. 887 00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: You know, it's more powerful now, but it's still not 888 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,760 super powerful, So I don't know what the I don't 889 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,280 know what that actually is. Like, I don't know if 890 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,559 it will be a lot of games, like in terms 891 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,000 of the newer stuff, obviously they can go for like 892 00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:34,679 some of the back catalog things, but in terms of 893 00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:36,119 like things that are actually gonna sell make a lot 894 00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:38,679 of money, like I don't know, like hell Blade two 895 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,760 certainly won't run on the switch, like a Vowed wouldn't 896 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,400 run on there. I'm trying to think of the recent 897 00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:47,039 Xbox games, like I just don't think like a Pentiment 898 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:48,639 and Grounded are the ones that kind of made sense. 899 00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:50,840 Toe if Thieves and like they've done those ones now 900 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,239 or I guess, wait, see if Thieves was just PlayStation 901 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,079 not switch actually right, so maybe see if Thieves would 902 00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,679 be a good one to come over to switch too. 903 00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:00,599 I'm sure that could run on a switch at this 904 00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:03,840 point in time. I would hope, at least I would hope, 905 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,360 But then yeah, there, I know that this wasn't in 906 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,239 my show notes or anything. But this is another thing 907 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,280 too that recently kind of floating around that PlayStation had 908 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,480 some like job listings for developers interested in like porting 909 00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:21,599 games over to Switch and Xbox as well. Actually, so 910 00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:23,840 it seems like PlayStation, you know, they've done a little 911 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,840 bit of it now with like games like pad Upon, 912 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,480 they have that Horizon Lego game, and obviously they're doing 913 00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:31,639 more PC things, but it seems like that might be 914 00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,480 the future for PlayStation as well, which makes a lot 915 00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:36,440 of sense. You know, we've heard so much turmoil in 916 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,280 the industry is because games are so expensive to make, 917 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,599 that takes so long to make. Why not put them 918 00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:42,559 on more consoles? You make a lot more money and 919 00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:45,039 then it's just easier for everything to be sustainable. It 920 00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:46,440 takes a little bit more work to poort it to 921 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,719 other consoles, especially something like a switch to which is 922 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,039 less powerful, but I think it's the way to go. 923 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,360 So I think we'll probably start seeing that for PlayStation 924 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,360 as well. But I think those things are just going 925 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,559 to take a bit of time, Like I think it 926 00:37:56,639 --> 00:38:00,079 might be a couple of years. I'll say it at 927 00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:02,719 least a year, maybe two years before like every one 928 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,679 of these Nintendo directs, like has a couple heavy hitter 929 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,000 like Xbox or PlayStation games that it gets poureded over, 930 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,079 but even those like, yes, they would be in a 931 00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,159 partner showcase like this, but I also think those would 932 00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:15,480 probably likely be things that would be in the main 933 00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:17,480 Nintendo directs, you know, because not everything in a big 934 00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:19,480 Nintendo direct is first party. A lot of it is 935 00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:20,960 third part of stuff as well, like the things that 936 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,599 are big or exciting, But I think we'd probably see 937 00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:24,920 them in there too, Like if they ever do a 938 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,239 Halo thing, you know, that's gonna be like that could 939 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,920 be a show closer ender, Like that's a huge that's 940 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,639 a huge thing to get in there, right, So I 941 00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:32,880 think we'll I think we'll start to see it, but 942 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,719 I think it'll take a bit more time unfortunately. So yeah, 943 00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:38,880 to your points, like I don't know what those games are. 944 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,400 To some extent, it's like you kind of need to 945 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,519 wait for the third parties. But to me it just 946 00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:45,079 seemed like, I don't know, I guess a couple of 947 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:46,920 these things are coming out, Like there wasn't out now 948 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,039 today game. There's a couple of things coming out soon, 949 00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:50,599 So I guess you want to get those release dates 950 00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:53,119 out there, But to me, I don't know, I feel 951 00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,000 like they maybe should have had a bit more sauce 952 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,360 saved there for like what is your first direct afterwards? 953 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,519 And of course a lot of that is like we 954 00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:01,719 build up the hype on our own. 955 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: We don't know. 956 00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: We hear the you know, rumor that there's gonna be 957 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,239 an intending direct, but we don't hear the rumor that 958 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,760 it's going to be a partner showcase, and so it 959 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,920 kind of changes the context of it. But yeah, I 960 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,360 don't know. I just thought it was interesting. I'm thinking 961 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,280 because the September is another classic slot where we used 962 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,000 to get an intended direct. There's been a lot of 963 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,719 rumor of like is Metro Prime delayed? What's going on 964 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,079 with that game? Sounds like they don't have a release 965 00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:23,719 date to announce yet because they just don't know it 966 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,639 because the game's taking a bit longer. 967 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: Than they hoped for. 968 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: But they have still confirmed that like it's happened this 969 00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:30,639 year still, so don't worry about that. So I feel 970 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,199 like September would be a good time reaffirm a lot 971 00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:35,440 of their release dates, getting new Pokemon trailer, get a 972 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,599 new what else do they have coming out? Age of Calamity, 973 00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:41,000 whatever trailer in there, get the Metroid, get the Kirby 974 00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:43,800 aer Riders release date, like some other first part of things. 975 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,400 Maybe one or two surprises, but maybe even those would 976 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,800 be more like twenty twenty six things. But I feel 977 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,199 like September makes sense to me, as like the next 978 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,760 actual big juicy intended direct that's like forty five minutes long. Yeah, 979 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,360 has a bunch of sauce in there. I think that 980 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,800 I think that would make a lot of sense. Yeah, 981 00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:02,239 because I remember and recently was like I don't think 982 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,800 Drag and Drive like that the wheelchair switched to game 983 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,679 like had or released it until recently, and then they 984 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,639 just announced it in a in the Nintendo Today app, 985 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,079 and people are like, that's really weird, especially if there's 986 00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:15,800 a rumor of this Nintendo direct coming out. But that 987 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,239 feels like a thing where you break the rules and 988 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,679 you just put that trailer in this direct, Like I 989 00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:21,519 don't know if people would care, like, oh, that's a 990 00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:23,639 Nintendo game, you can't put that in a partner showcase. 991 00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:25,960 Like I guess that kind of ruins what these things mean. 992 00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:30,039 But anyway, just any I was not the things I 993 00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:31,880 think about when I hear a Nintendo to get a 994 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,079 route announced. I think about all these other things. But anyway, 995 00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:37,159 I gave you a list of games that I was 996 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,440 kind of intrigued to talk about. Was there anything outside 997 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,320 of that list I provided you that that caught your fancy? 998 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,079 Speaker 3: No, I mean I kind of perused over the Hirol Warriors, 999 00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:50,119 but it's it's I played on the WIU and I 1000 00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:52,519 thought that was cool, but I've never really been super 1001 00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:56,880 engaged with it. What was the other one? There was 1002 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,960 one other one that I sow. I mean, just dance. 1003 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,159 I'm always down for some just dance. And if I 1004 00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:06,159 had more time, I would love to commit so much 1005 00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:09,199 of my time to the Monster Hunter franchise. Oh yeah, 1006 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,039 That's always kind of piqued my interest. And the only 1007 00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:13,119 times I've actually gotten to play it really is just 1008 00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:15,239 when Ruben. Oh he's always on top of getting the 1009 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,599 latest ones. Yeah, I'm usually whenever I'm with him where 1010 00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:19,719 we're playing Monster Hunter. 1011 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, yeah, because I feel like, you know, 1012 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,199 for a lot of people, you know a lot of 1013 00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:27,320 the announcement, especially in this direct, but even just over 1014 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,480 the switch over the years and people I think people 1015 00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:31,519 thought with the switch to be even more powerful, maybe 1016 00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:34,320 be different, but like the switch To is still behind 1017 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,159 the Xbox in the PlayStation in terms of power. So 1018 00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:38,199 the games are getting are still going to be a 1019 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,400 lot of ports of older games, but now we can 1020 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,039 get like more things from the PS four Xbox one 1021 00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,039 era type stuff. And so that's what a lot of 1022 00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,840 this was was like, Oh, here's this game that's finally 1023 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,639 coming to the switch To that you've been able to 1024 00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:51,760 play for the last like five, six, seven, eight years, 1025 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,199 that kind of thing. And I feel like for a 1026 00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:54,840 lot of people that can still be exciting and even 1027 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,920 for me too for certain games, but I feel like 1028 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,559 for you, you don't really use the switch handhell at all, right, 1029 00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:01,360 Like this is home console for you, pretty. 1030 00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:02,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not using it. 1031 00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I feel like the cell of like oh 1032 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,920 I can play this on the go now is just 1033 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,559 not really a thing for you, right, So I feel 1034 00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:10,880 like that probably greatly lessens the amount of third party 1035 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,880 games coming over that would be exciting for you, just 1036 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,320 because like you're not going to use that feature. Really, 1037 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,079 that's just your lifestyle with it. Yeah, yes, so that 1038 00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:22,079 makes sense. Okay, So jumping over to my list, and 1039 00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:24,280 it's not the super long list, so we'll just go 1040 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,719 through it first. One is a game that was also 1041 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,519 heavily rumored, so many rumors this month is Plants Versus 1042 00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:33,920 Zombies Replanted, which is coming out in October. So this 1043 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,239 is a pretty much a remaster I guess of Plants 1044 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,199 Versus Zombies, which is like fifteen years old now, which 1045 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,440 is crazy me that's been that long. But yeah, the 1046 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,840 game is old enough that it never even had wide 1047 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,559 screen in the original version, so it's obviously it's now 1048 00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:49,840 a wide screen. They pretty much kept all the visuals 1049 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,679 the exact same, but just like gloss them up, which 1050 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,960 is great because that original art style is really solid. 1051 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,400 There's new levels in here. There's like challenge modes, like 1052 00:42:57,039 --> 00:43:00,559 a like a what is it called, like atlet type 1053 00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:02,840 run where like if you yeah, if you die, you 1054 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,639 have to start the whole thing over something like that. 1055 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,280 So this is coming out to the switch for me. 1056 00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:10,679 I'm gonna buy this game again. Yeah, I haven't played it. 1057 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,800 I actually played it somewhat recently, put on like just 1058 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,239 a few levels of it, but I think this is 1059 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,920 a good way to get back into it. Having it 1060 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,480 on the go is a big plus for me. Having 1061 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,760 just it touched up get some new levels in there 1062 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:23,320 is exciting and also his co op which I'm curious 1063 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,960 to see how that plays in the mix. I wonder 1064 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,719 if it's could be an interesting gauntlet game, if there's 1065 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,400 like a competitive element to it. We could play against 1066 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,039 each other at least, mean Kirkland could play it on 1067 00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:32,960 the stream at some point because we both love this. 1068 00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:35,360 But did you ever play Plants Verse Zombies back in 1069 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,880 the day, because I feel like it should be a 1070 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,280 tailor game, but I don't know, but I don't know 1071 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,159 if you actually played it. 1072 00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, when Plants Versus Obvious came out on my phone 1073 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,320 while my iPod touched back of the day, I was 1074 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,000 playing the living daylights out of it. I love that 1075 00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:52,639 original one, yeah, so very much. It's such a classic. 1076 00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:55,719 And I always wanted to get into Garden Warfare because 1077 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,599 I thought that was such a cool upgrade to the game. 1078 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,480 Just it was so real and that was I meaneah, 1079 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,480 of course it's ea. But that was done like yeah, 1080 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,320 same same, you know, same thing as you know, Star 1081 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,440 Wars Battlefront just circulating around that time, and I was 1082 00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:12,599 just I was so pumped. So this has me really 1083 00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:16,159 really stoked to be honest. The fact that it's gonna 1084 00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:19,360 be on switch is just it's fantastic. And I didn't 1085 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,880 see a price point. Did they put a price point 1086 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,199 on there? 1087 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 2: Thirty bucks? 1088 00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:28,280 Speaker 3: You know they made It's not like it's just a 1089 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,280 carbon copy of that original one. When I was looking 1090 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,519 at it, they definitely made some upgrades to it. Obviously 1091 00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:34,800 visually there's an upgrade, but just some gameplay stuff too. 1092 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,239 It seems like they've added some new things. So, uh, 1093 00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:42,719 thirty is deep. I feel like for it, i'd feel 1094 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,079 comfortable anywhere below twenty interesting. 1095 00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when I originally saw it, like on 1096 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,239 the US store as twenty bucks, I'm like, oh, that's perfect. 1097 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,800 Then convert that over thirty buck. Yeah, okay, fine, I 1098 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,039 guess that makes sense. I'm still yeah, I'm still gonna 1099 00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:58,400 pick it up. I think that might be Like I 1100 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,280 guess we kind of raised seeing what is actually added 1101 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,760 to this. You know, I talked about the new levels 1102 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,360 and stuff. But it's funny the trailer that's in the 1103 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,079 direct doesn't really show or tell you anything other than like, 1104 00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:09,880 obviously the game would be widescreening and the look and 1105 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,880 you can see the visuals of it, but it's only 1106 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,679 like afterwards. Now that it's announced, there's like a Steam page. 1107 00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 3: Four. 1108 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,039 Speaker 1: You can go on the Steam page and there's like 1109 00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:18,000 all the info about all the stuff that's new, and 1110 00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:19,719 that's where it confirms the new levels and things. So 1111 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,760 I don't really know how much that's gonna be. But 1112 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,199 I mean I remember that original game being like, you know, 1113 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,480 offering obviously a ton of replaybility is it's just fun 1114 00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:29,679 to play over and over again, but also like bonus levels, 1115 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,079 challenge missions, all that kind of stuff, different modes and 1116 00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,239 things like that. So I feel like there's a lot 1117 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,519 to do in this game generally speaking, So for me, 1118 00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:38,360 I think it'll be worth it. And yeah, it's funny 1119 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,039 you mentioned like this obviously was a game, big game 1120 00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:42,039 on the phone like mobile game back in the day. 1121 00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:44,119 I only ever had it on Steam and played it there, 1122 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,559 so I guess I could just pick up my phone 1123 00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:48,519 right now, But I don't know. Something about playing on 1124 00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:50,440 the switch. I think will be nice with the bigger screen. 1125 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 3: You can and I don't even it's not even listed 1126 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,480 as like, I don't think you have to pay for it. 1127 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,960 It's just like it has the get options. 1128 00:45:56,559 --> 00:45:58,679 Speaker 2: So bea ezactly you've bought it previously. 1129 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,599 Speaker 3: Well, no, it's it's it's not because that has like 1130 00:46:03,639 --> 00:46:06,079 a download from the cloud option, which I can see 1131 00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:09,199 Plans for Zombies too has that. But I'm downloading it 1132 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,599 right now. I'm gonna play it when I go to 1133 00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:11,119 bed tonight. 1134 00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:13,079 Speaker 2: And hell yeah, yeah yeah. 1135 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,039 Speaker 1: Because when I booted up recently, because I think I 1136 00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:18,159 did after me and Kirkland did like the zombie game 1137 00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:20,440 ranking thing that we did, and I was like, I 1138 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,400 gotta play some PVZ and man that music because I 1139 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,800 had like completely forgot about it and I don't think 1140 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,360 I've heard the music in fifteen years. 1141 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 2: Fuck dude, that music. 1142 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,159 Speaker 3: Just I can't wait. 1143 00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:31,039 Speaker 1: I bought me going I was like, oh, I'm mad 1144 00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:33,599 in this my Spotify playlist. I forgot how goddamn good 1145 00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:34,440 this music is. 1146 00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 2: It's so freaking good. 1147 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I love Plans for Zombies, so for me, 1148 00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:40,559 this is yeah, this is definitely a pick up. And 1149 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,760 I love the replanted title. I mean, there are some 1150 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,159 games that get silly with the names of the remakes remasters. 1151 00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 2: I like Replanted. I think that's fun. 1152 00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:51,599 Speaker 1: I think it works too, like the playfulness of their 1153 00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:53,559 like even Garden Warfare. You know, being like a kind 1154 00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:56,440 of a light pun on modern warfare. Like they're just 1155 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,760 good with their good with their titles, good with their words. 1156 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,559 I feel like with the plasm Versus Zombies series. Yeah, 1157 00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:04,239 I never played those games either, I think because was 1158 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,360 there PVZ two. 1159 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 3: Yes, there's two and there's a three. 1160 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 1: It looks like okay, I think they changed stuff with those. 1161 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,920 I feel like people always just talk about the original. 1162 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,039 I don't know if they just maybe they were riddled 1163 00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:17,920 to ads and only on the mobile phone or something 1164 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,199 like that. That's probably what it was. But uh yeah, 1165 00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:23,599 I never played Garden Warf or anything, but man, yeah, 1166 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,679 for me, it's definitely be a pick up. Uh so yeah, 1167 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,039 looking looking for this would be before our November stream, 1168 00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:33,119 so maybe we could do some co op on the stream. 1169 00:47:33,159 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 2: I'll pick up on the switch. That could be fun. 1170 00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1171 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 1172 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what the call up will be like, 1173 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,400 but yeah, it'd be fun to try that out. 1174 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,119 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 1175 00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Plans for Zombies is the best. Okay, this 1176 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,800 game I brought you might maybe you were surprised that 1177 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,280 I wanted to bring this one up, But there's this 1178 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,639 game that wasn't out now game, so it's out, you know, 1179 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,480 as a few days ago at this point. Chilling by 1180 00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:57,519 the Campfire is a new game for the Switch to 1181 00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:03,119 where you and your homies build a campfire. It's exactly 1182 00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:05,679 as the game suggests. You can have up to four 1183 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,159 player co op and it has the camera integration so 1184 00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:10,840 you can see your freaky version of your friends at 1185 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,559 this campfire. And it's pretty much like a simulator game, 1186 00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:16,480 like you put you put logs in there, you put 1187 00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:19,480 different fuel whatever, you build the campfire up and that's it. 1188 00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:21,400 Like it's not a big survival game. You just build 1189 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,880 a campfire and you just chill by it. This game 1190 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,920 is twenty dollars, which is insane to me, Like this 1191 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,840 should be I feel like five or ten or whatever, 1192 00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:31,360 ten maximum. I feel like for what this game is, 1193 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,559 maybe I'm underestimated it, but it doesn't seem like it 1194 00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:35,960 has much to it other than literally just like a 1195 00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:39,320 ViBe's place to hang out, which it which is crazy 1196 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,519 to me. But the reason I wanted to bring this up, Taylor, 1197 00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:43,400 is because one of the game ideas I've had to 1198 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,360 do over the years was like what and no one 1199 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,320 steal this idea? Okay, and they already kind of sold 1200 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,400 my idea, but I thought it wouldn't it be interesting 1201 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,920 if there's a game where you were just like, you 1202 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,559 know how, like there's the yule log fireplace thing when 1203 00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:57,559 you have like around Christmas, like on TV. 1204 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 2: It's like a yule log thing. 1205 00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: Like what if there was a game where you are 1206 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,840 that guy who's like running that fire. So you got 1207 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,559 to make sure the fire. You gotta like set up 1208 00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:06,559 the camera equipment. You gotta ma sure there's always batteries 1209 00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:07,960 in there so it never you know, I'm sure that's 1210 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,800 not how actually do it in real life, but you 1211 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,800 got to set up the camera, get the angle just right. 1212 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,360 You got to make sure the fire is always like 1213 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,559 that perfect crispy amount for the viewers. 1214 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,559 Speaker 2: And you know how like. 1215 00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:19,679 Speaker 1: People like when they see that guy's hand when he 1216 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,360 puts in the uXt piece on, people get hyped about that. 1217 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,119 It's like it's like when you have that screensaver and 1218 00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:25,880 it hits the corner. It's like that same kind of 1219 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,159 primal like satisfaction dopamine hit. I thought, like a man 1220 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,360 you a log game like simular, maybe like throw some 1221 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,920 horror vibes in there too, could be interesting that's a 1222 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,519 game I'm gonna make someday, and I feel like these 1223 00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:38,199 guys kind of they took my fire, you know, they 1224 00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:38,559 took my. 1225 00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:39,559 Speaker 2: Idea from me a little bit. 1226 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,599 Speaker 1: Obviously, of course it's you know, I haven't claimed that idea, 1227 00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:43,760 and maybe that game already exists. 1228 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,519 Speaker 2: I just don't know. 1229 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,079 Speaker 1: I'm sure someone's made something like that if I've had 1230 00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:49,199 that idea, which is a pretty simple idea, but this 1231 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,039 game kind of scratches that. 1232 00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 2: H I suppose. But anyway, I'm not picking this game up. 1233 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: I just thought it was a weird oddity because it's 1234 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,920 just such a strange game to get like such a 1235 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,719 highlighting nintended in my opinion, I'm just shocked this was 1236 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,960 in a direct I think only because it has I 1237 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,559 think it was probably only in this direct because it 1238 00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:08,639 has the camera functionality. If it didn't, I don't think 1239 00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:12,159 this would have been in here, because like, what is 1240 00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:13,360 the who is this game for? 1241 00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 3: You know? Yeah, it seems very niche I think that 1242 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,960 would be a very cool concept if you were to 1243 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,920 have it. So, uh, something is like horror vibe, something 1244 00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:26,760 is trying to get closer to you, and you got 1245 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,360 to keep the fire alive. Just to kind of keep 1246 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,679 sure Bay and you can see like eyes in the distance, 1247 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,920 which would be kind of freaky. But this just seems 1248 00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:34,679 very silly and zany. 1249 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 2: Which you know. 1250 00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:36,760 Speaker 3: I feel like it would be fun to try, but 1251 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,440 I also feel like maybe it might wear out pretty fast. 1252 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a podcast I really like. I think it's 1253 00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:48,800 called g La Chef Podcast and there's two people and 1254 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,960 they just every podcast there is a video version and 1255 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,440 they're just like in a random game. Like one episode 1256 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,199 they did like in hab A Hotel where their just 1257 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,360 characters are just sitting in like a lawn chair and 1258 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,440 they're having a conversation and the game is just it's 1259 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,079 happening in the background. It's not really you're not really 1260 00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:05,280 supposed to watch it, but it's more the idea that, 1261 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,480 like this is a gaming podcast and they're like in 1262 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,880 a video game world while they do it. I feel 1263 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,039 like I want to see them pick up this game 1264 00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:13,880 and like have the freaky cameras and everything. 1265 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,119 Speaker 2: Like that's what I'd be down for. 1266 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,119 Speaker 1: Like, that's like the best case scenario for this game 1267 00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:20,599 existing is for this podcast. I really like to do 1268 00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:23,719 a weird, freaky episode where they're set in this in 1269 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,599 this world. So I shouldn't message them if they don't 1270 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:26,559 know about this game, they should. 1271 00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 2: They should definitely do it. Yeah, that'd be so good. 1272 00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:32,559 Speaker 1: Next up, I don't think I've much to say about 1273 00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:35,199 this game, but it's a game called Hella Uh, coming 1274 00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:38,159 out twenty twenty six. You play as a cute little mouse, 1275 00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:40,360 and it seems like there's a big adventure. 1276 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,280 Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of like a honeys shrunk. 1277 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,760 Speaker 1: The kids sort of vibe to it, or your little 1278 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,800 mouse are running through this backyard or park or field 1279 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,159 or whatever it is, and there's just simple puzzles, there's exploring, 1280 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,719 seems like there's other characters interacting with You got a 1281 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,880 little red of twoey vibes, and that's a little kind 1282 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,039 of walking on two feet I think, rather than four feet. 1283 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,440 All that kind of silly stuff. But I think visually 1284 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,519 looks really great. It looks really very cute game. So yeah, 1285 00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:03,880 I don't know, I depend on the price. I can 1286 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,480 see myself picking this one up because I really love 1287 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,079 that theming. I love games like that of course, like 1288 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,400 a like a pickman, like a ground at all that 1289 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,480 sort of stuff. So yeah, I thought this game was 1290 00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:13,519 super cute. Hell acute, even. 1291 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,159 Speaker 3: Nice. Uh yeah, this it looks fun. It has something 1292 00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:21,559 to it that seems very familiar to me. I thought, 1293 00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:23,599 like this is its first time it was ever announced. 1294 00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:25,599 Because I was looking at this, I thought, man, I 1295 00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:27,840 get a weird sense of deja vous with this kind of. 1296 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,079 Speaker 2: It looks a little bit Moss. 1297 00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 1: I guess like that other most series of games. 1298 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,159 Speaker 3: Maybe that's what I was thinking of. Yeah, but yeah, 1299 00:52:35,159 --> 00:52:37,440 it looks it looks really really cute. It had a 1300 00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:41,559 h it takes two kind of vibe to it a 1301 00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:44,239 little bit, just not being two people. 1302 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, I see that going around the backyard 1303 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,360 as a little guy. 1304 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, on trees and stuff. Yeah for sure. 1305 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,519 Speaker 1: Speaking of Grounded, hey the sequels out. Now, Hey, isn't 1306 00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:56,599 that crazy that we didn't know was a thing until 1307 00:52:56,599 --> 00:52:57,079 two months ago? 1308 00:52:57,159 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 2: Now it's playable. 1309 00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 3: Is this just the because the early access was the 1310 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,400 early access? 1311 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 2: Okay yeah, okay, yeah. 1312 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,079 Speaker 3: What's the other term that they they called, like ground. 1313 00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 2: On Xbox they call it game preview? 1314 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, full games up, but it's called a 1315 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,800 game preview. 1316 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, which you know, I think for the say, like 1317 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,679 Grounded is a game that was so integral, like part 1318 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,119 of the community process and a lot of feedback, and 1319 00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:23,639 that wasn't really me. I just wanted to play the game. 1320 00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:25,280 I don't want to help them develop it, you know, 1321 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,599 I don't want to do free labor for them. But yeah, 1322 00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:31,159 I think this is cool. I'll play it when it 1323 00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:32,960 goes one point. H is you know, kind of the 1324 00:53:33,039 --> 00:53:35,159 same sentiment I had. But it's just it's weird to 1325 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,039 me that, like, the sequel to a game that was 1326 00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:38,480 my Game of the year whatever it was three or 1327 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,719 four years ago, is out and like I could not 1328 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,480 care less until it goes one point. Oh, Like I 1329 00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:46,440 just have no interest in actually touching the game. So yeah, 1330 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,119 we'll talk about that one in the future. Uh. Last 1331 00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:51,199 two games for me kind of a one two punch 1332 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,079 because they kind of bundled them this way. In the 1333 00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:56,000 direct this game and I should I didn't even write 1334 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,159 down the full title, so that was an mistake on 1335 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,280 my part. Adventures of Elliott Right, Adventures of Elliott, Adventure, 1336 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,360 The Adventures of Elliott the Millennium Tales. 1337 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 2: How Could I Forget? Is the name of this game? 1338 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 1: And then Octapath Traveler zero. So the reason these are 1339 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,920 bundled together is they are both games that are using 1340 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,880 the two D HD engine or HD two D always 1341 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,960 forget what they call it from score Enix, which of 1342 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,360 course started with the first Triangle Strategy or sorry, with 1343 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,639 the first Oxpath Traveler, and then his continued for the sequels, 1344 00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:28,559 and then Trial Strategy had that, the Dragon Quest remakes 1345 00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:32,239 have it, Star Ocean remakes had that, Live Live remake 1346 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,559 had that. So it's an engine that you know, started 1347 00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:36,679 on Switch one, and it's funny. The reason I wanted 1348 00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:38,360 to bring this up and I thought this interesting was 1349 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,400 that the first Ocpath Traveler came out in twenty eighteen, 1350 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,679 so it came out the year of the switch launch 1351 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,719 Switch one launch, and it was like a pretty big 1352 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,920 game at the time, and sales wise, I don't know 1353 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,840 how big it was, but I think like relative to 1354 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,639 how new the consoles then get sold pretty well. And 1355 00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:56,079 obviously it's like now there was an Ocapath Traveler too, 1356 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,239 and now Zero, and then there was also the Phone games. 1357 00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,679 Speaker 2: I was like, there's four games in that series. 1358 00:54:59,679 --> 00:55:02,519 Speaker 1: Now the last I don't know what is that seven 1359 00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:04,239 or eight year or something like that, and then all 1360 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,480 these other games that use that same engine, and so 1361 00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:08,480 I think, to me, like Oxbat Traveler zero makes a 1362 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,119 lot of sense to put this out now because it's 1363 00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:12,840 gonna come out in a few months, so it's gonna 1364 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,599 be like a launch window game for the Switch too, 1365 00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:16,599 which makes sense because that first game was such a 1366 00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:18,360 big success on the Switch one and kicked off like 1367 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,119 this whole series now and this whole engine like which 1368 00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:24,280 is super popular. I've really enjoyed some of these two 1369 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,480 DHD games, and obviously the art style is fantastic, but 1370 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,360 I think I'm getting a little burnt out on it 1371 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,800 at this point. It's just like we get so many 1372 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,199 games like this, and none of them really like they're 1373 00:55:33,199 --> 00:55:35,559 all kind of just copying the homework without changing anything, 1374 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,599 so they all end up looking pretty much the same. 1375 00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:39,719 They have like little differences here or there. So even 1376 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,239 though I like a lot of the gameplay of it, 1377 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,199 I think, I don't know, I'm getting a little sick 1378 00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:44,920 of this two DHD. I like I want I just 1379 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,440 want like a more variation on it, or maybe just 1380 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,480 like it to be used more sparsely. I feel like 1381 00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:51,000 I'm already kind of sick of it, even though it's 1382 00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:55,039 like still kind of new. I don't know, when you 1383 00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:56,599 look at these games, I I don't think they're really 1384 00:55:56,639 --> 00:55:58,599 like Taylor Games or anything. But did you have any 1385 00:55:58,679 --> 00:56:00,880 thoughts about Adventures of elliottor Ocabad Traveler. 1386 00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:05,519 Speaker 3: My coworker of mine, he's just raming about Octapath Traveler 1387 00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:07,840 right now because he's playing, Uh the. 1388 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,679 Speaker 2: First one is he playing? 1389 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,039 Speaker 3: He skipped the first one right to the second one. 1390 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,760 But yeah, I I am. I don't know if I'll 1391 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,760 get around Octopath Traveler, but I am thoroughly interested in 1392 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,239 uh in this one, I'd say in a weird way 1393 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,639 because just it's purely the two D stacked with the 1394 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,480 HD that has really really enticed me, because I don't 1395 00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:33,280 I mean Octopath Traveler. That's that's something that has that 1396 00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:34,559 kind of. 1397 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was that was the first game 1398 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,480 to kick off this engine in this art style. 1399 00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:41,119 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because I've I just I did not know 1400 00:56:41,159 --> 00:56:43,039 that was really a thing. Again, I don't know really 1401 00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:46,280 anything about Octopath Traveler, but seeing it and here like 1402 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,440 it's just this looks really really cool. I don't know, 1403 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,440 it's just it's it's very soothing to my eyes to 1404 00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:56,519 see him like hopping around these rock stones, lava stones 1405 00:56:56,519 --> 00:57:00,159 with lava around, and it's like his character is is 1406 00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,280 that that eight bit whatever you want to call it. 1407 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,000 It just looks very very pleasing. 1408 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,599 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I mean yeah, I think I'm probably 1409 00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:10,320 sounding more negative than I than I need to like 1410 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,840 it obviously is still a gorgeous engine. I just think 1411 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,039 that a lot of the games I end up looking 1412 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,480 very similar, even if it is like a good look, 1413 00:57:16,519 --> 00:57:18,320 I guess, yeah, but I don't know, maybe that's not fair. 1414 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,559 There's a lot of games I just like look super realistic, 1415 00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:23,280 and I feel like we don't really critique games for 1416 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,119 looking like that, So I don't know, maybe it's maybe 1417 00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,679 it's not totally fair. And obviously it's better than like, 1418 00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:30,480 I don't know, like a lot of the like when 1419 00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:33,760 Square Unix did like the uh Final Fantasy pict Pixel 1420 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,800 remasters recently, it's like, okay, that's fine, but like I'd 1421 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,079 prefer there been two DHD, Like I still don't want it, 1422 00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:40,880 but I just want there to be a bit more variation, 1423 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,119 I suppose. But yeah, I really love the maybe I 1424 00:57:44,119 --> 00:57:46,719 should say love. But I enjoyed the first Otpath. It 1425 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,320 was really cool game, really interesting. Never god around to 1426 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,119 the second one, even though I heard it's like a 1427 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,400 huge improvement over the first one love Triangle Strategy. I 1428 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,159 think with this one it's looking a little off to me. 1429 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,599 So I looked into it and I guess this game So, 1430 00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:01,079 as I mentioned, there's the phone game came out I 1431 00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:03,440 think in between Octopath one and two, so it's a 1432 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,000 mobile game. It's kind of like a gotcha game, you know, 1433 00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:08,000 collecting characters and things like that. I think I checked 1434 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,519 it out for like a few minutes, but like just 1435 00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:11,840 I'm just not Verry mobile mobile phone kind of guy, 1436 00:58:12,159 --> 00:58:15,239 mobile game kind of guy. But I think that this game, 1437 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,159 Okapath Traveler zero is actually like a port of that game, okay, 1438 00:58:19,159 --> 00:58:20,920 and then they remove some of the gotcha elements to 1439 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,800 make it more of like a console release without like 1440 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,840 you know, loop boxes and shit. But because of that, 1441 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,280 like it's not it doesn't quite have the visual fidelity 1442 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,360 of like ocopathed Traveler two for example, or like a 1443 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,320 Triangle Strategy, so it seems like it's a bit of 1444 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,760 a lesser version. And even when they're showing like all 1445 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,719 the characters that you're gonna have, it's like whoa. Because 1446 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,800 Ocopath one and two both have like eight playable characters 1447 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,840 that's it. But this because it's phone in. They're like 1448 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,000 adding characters all over the place and even have other 1449 00:58:44,039 --> 00:58:46,119 characters from the other games in the series. I think 1450 00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:47,840 there's like tons and tons of characters you can play, 1451 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,159 so I don't I'm curious to see how they convert 1452 00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:53,679 that over to switch like console version of it. And 1453 00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:55,360 the other thing that looked new and there for me 1454 00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:57,639 was town building, like building out houses and stuff, and 1455 00:58:57,679 --> 00:59:00,159 like with how gorgeous this engine is. Like that the 1456 00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:01,719 thing I want to do the most is just build 1457 00:59:01,719 --> 00:59:05,559 out these cute, little like isometric towns. So I think 1458 00:59:05,559 --> 00:59:07,239 that's a very enticing thing for me. So this gime 1459 00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:09,760 will definitely go on the wish list and what's maybe 1460 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,639 on like a nice sale. I'll eventually pick it up. 1461 00:59:12,039 --> 00:59:13,679 But yeah, I just I never even finished the first 1462 00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:15,199 Oxpath that just played it for like, I mean, it's 1463 00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:16,800 a long game. I think I put like forty hours 1464 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,320 into or something just like couldn't beat it in that 1465 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:20,840 amount of time, and then just kind of moved on 1466 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:21,480 to other things. 1467 00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:23,679 Speaker 2: So cool to see that. 1468 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,519 Speaker 1: And then and as I said, all that context of 1469 00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:28,559 like that first game being so kind of monumental for 1470 00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:30,800 the Switch one, I think it made sense to do 1471 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,840 this have something ready to go for the switch too, 1472 00:59:33,159 --> 00:59:34,920 even if it's not quite what I wanted. And then yeah, 1473 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,960 Adventures of La I'm less keen on this one. It 1474 00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:38,960 just doesn't really look like my cup of tea. I 1475 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,159 don't really care much for the story. I think maybe 1476 00:59:41,199 --> 00:59:43,199 the unique thing about this is I think every one 1477 00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:45,320 of those HG two D games that I shouted out 1478 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,960 that have existed have all been turn based, whether it's 1479 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,840 Triangle Strategy and it's grid like fire emblem type combat 1480 00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:53,800 or everything else is just like classic JRPG turn based, 1481 00:59:54,199 --> 00:59:56,679 you know, pick attack, pick defend, put your potion on, 1482 00:59:56,719 --> 00:59:58,639 that kind of thing. And this one is real time combat. 1483 00:59:58,639 --> 00:59:59,800 So I think that's like the first time in this 1484 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,719 end that will be would be seeing that. Maybe Star 1485 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,360 Ocean does. 1486 01:00:02,239 --> 01:00:04,679 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I haven't played those ones, So yeah, 1487 01:00:04,679 --> 01:00:06,039 that's that's cool. It's unique. 1488 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think this game, like the story and 1489 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,440 the characters are all the writing was all quit goofy, 1490 01:00:11,559 --> 01:00:14,440 and I don't know, just didn't look like that's interesting 1491 01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:15,920 or unique to me. But I guess it's cool to 1492 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,519 get like another new ip with this. I just want 1493 01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:20,039 Triangle Strategy to at this point. That's that's what I'm 1494 01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:22,840 hoping for whenever we see HG two D, That's what 1495 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,639 I'm hoping pops up on the screen. But yeah, cool, 1496 01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:27,239 I think I think these games will in that game 1497 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,000 actually is a demo out now that you can go 1498 01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,159 download and play. I don't think I will check it out, 1499 01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:34,199 and then it will probably come out next year. Ocfat 1500 01:00:34,199 --> 01:00:36,599 Travelers coming out I think in December of this year, 1501 01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:38,559 so it's coming out later this year. So nice, nice 1502 01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:40,159 One two Punch. I think those are two games that 1503 01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:42,719 were good things to see in a direct like this, 1504 01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:45,320 but I think we needed more sauce like that, or 1505 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,440 even preferably things with a bit more sauce. 1506 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 2: But I think those were a good like. 1507 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 1: As for what the showcases, I think those are a 1508 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,119 good like kind of One two Punch closer for what 1509 01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:53,719 this thing was? 1510 01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1511 01:00:56,599 --> 01:00:59,679 Speaker 2: Any other games or any other thoughts on anything with 1512 01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:00,880 this to direct here? 1513 01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:05,079 Speaker 3: No? No, I don't got anything. 1514 01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough? Are you what's the next switch game? 1515 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,519 You're picking up? 1516 01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Like what it was your next time? You're gonna like 1517 01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:13,519 dust off that switch to Are you just are you 1518 01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:14,360 still playing Mario Kart? 1519 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:14,679 Speaker 2: Or is it? 1520 01:01:14,719 --> 01:01:16,559 Speaker 1: Are you just like is this console, just kind of 1521 01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:18,039 waiting for another big release or. 1522 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:23,679 Speaker 3: Still playing Mario Kart. Yeah I'm not. I'm waiting for 1523 01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:26,519 a time to pop Mario Party on. But Okay, from that, 1524 01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:28,400 it's just, yeah, it's sitting there. I'm waiting for them 1525 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,320 to just give me a give me a new Switch game, 1526 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,440 give me something. I saw the switch prices all officially 1527 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,760 went up the other day, which is rough, but yeah, 1528 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:39,440 just give me. 1529 01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 1: That's just temporary and once tariff things get sorted out, 1530 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:43,039 it goes back down. 1531 01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, hopefully I really just want another, give 1532 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,719 me another like mainline Mario game, something fun like that. Okay, 1533 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,440 the big thing that will pull me in is, uh, 1534 01:01:53,519 --> 01:01:57,840 they drop that original Luigi's Mansion onto the game Cube 1535 01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:58,719 online play? 1536 01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:59,159 Speaker 2: Did they? 1537 01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 3: No? No? No, if they do, If they do, that's. 1538 01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 2: What was that one of the ones they announced? 1539 01:02:05,039 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, I do not know, but that'll oh 1540 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,679 my god, I'll just I'll be there, Holy smokes, I 1541 01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:11,519 will be there to play that. 1542 01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:16,639 Speaker 1: And yeah, so for the fall thing, it's Kirby, Metroid, Pokemon. 1543 01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:19,280 Are you picking up any of those planning to. 1544 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,719 Speaker 3: The only highlight of those would for me would be Pokemon. 1545 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,119 But I'm not that excited to just go through Lumo 1546 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,000 City and getting up to Pokemon things in there. It's 1547 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,199 cool that they're bringing back Megavolution with a full you know, 1548 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,480 full steam ahead. I really like Mega Evolution. It was 1549 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,679 of my favorite things about them bringing in with the 1550 01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:41,840 Callous region. But I don't know. Mega Dragonite's cool. But 1551 01:02:42,239 --> 01:02:43,400 I don't know. There's just not a lot of stuff 1552 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,559 that's really pulling me in with with this goal around. 1553 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:48,559 I need another, like a main, main line Pokemon game, 1554 01:02:48,599 --> 01:02:51,320 like a sequel to Scarlet and Violet. That's just you know, 1555 01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:52,559 tip top. 1556 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, fair enough, Yeah, I'm I'm on the 1557 01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,000 fence with Metroid. I gotta go wait and see more. 1558 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,239 I'm sure it'll get it like a big showcase. I 1559 01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:02,800 don't know if it'll get a full direct, but I'm 1560 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,599 sure in the next director it'll get a big showcase 1561 01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:07,159 and kind of based off that and then Kirby Air 1562 01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:09,679 Riders like, I don't know. I can't imagine myself playing 1563 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,559 paying one hundred and ten dollars for that. So if 1564 01:03:11,559 --> 01:03:14,400 it is a full price game like Donkey Kong or 1565 01:03:14,639 --> 01:03:18,000 Mario Kart, like not happening. But if it's cheaper, maybe 1566 01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:19,880 because I'm just, you know, obviously a big Smash fan. 1567 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,320 I want to see what Sacri has been up to 1568 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,000 now that he's not It's been a long time since 1569 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,000 he's made a non Smash game, right, I guess not 1570 01:03:25,079 --> 01:03:27,280 that long he did Kidderkers Uprising, But. 1571 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 1572 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 1: It'll be It'll be cool, uh to see what that 1573 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,880 game is. And we didn't even really get gameplay, right, 1574 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,159 we just got like a cinematic cutscene, So I'm curious. 1575 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,639 I'm My guess right now is that we're not there's 1576 01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:42,079 no surprise big game for this fall. Like, I think 1577 01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:44,000 we kind of know everything that's coming out. My hope 1578 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,920 at this point is that maybe there's like a fire Emblem, 1579 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,400 a remaster or something like that that comes out this year. 1580 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,719 But I don't even know if they'll do that. Because 1581 01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:52,960 they have Path of Radiance in the GameCube. Maybe they'll say, aah, 1582 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,840 that's enough, that's all people need. So I have to 1583 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,000 I have to wait and see. But yeah, I don't know. 1584 01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:00,360 I've still been I guess I'm done with Don Kong now, 1585 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,440 but I've been playing a little bit of Winning Waker. 1586 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,119 I think I'll share more about my thoughts on that 1587 01:04:04,199 --> 01:04:06,639 in a future Side Coast when I've gotten deeper into it. 1588 01:04:06,679 --> 01:04:08,519 But yeah, I'm still playing a little bit of switch 1589 01:04:08,519 --> 01:04:11,199 stuff here and there, but it's definitely still waiting for 1590 01:04:11,239 --> 01:04:12,920 a couple more bigger hits now that I'm done with 1591 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:13,519 Donkey Kong. 1592 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 3: Nice. 1593 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Taylor, this is a super fun episode. 1594 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,719 I forget what's going on next week, but it's something's 1595 01:04:20,719 --> 01:04:23,159 happening on Side Quest as it always does. Thank you 1596 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,480 everyone for listening, and we will see you again next time. 1597 01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 3: Bye bye bye