WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.680 You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:04.879 a UFO hanging in? 3 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:08.720 We don't want to report every thirty one. Do you 4 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:09.480 wish to report a. 5 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.960 UFO over hey, we want to one of those. 6 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:15.439 Data areas thirty one. 7 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.160 Do you wish to find a report of any kind 8 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:17.320 of it? 9 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.199 I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds. 10 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:27.120 Time areas thirty one me neither there or see if 11 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.920 it was anybody above us to pass us, Like thirty 12 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:34.759 seconds ago, we were sending one top of golf negative. Okay, 13 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:37.039 OFFI the UFO. 14 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:39.719 Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock. 15 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:42.600 Yes, I'll passed over, I go. 16 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:45.119 I don't know what it was, but it's from at 17 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:47.679 least to three thousand feet above us. See, I passed 18 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:48.399 out over the top of. 19 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:54.640 US ninety one one. You just called up to me. 20 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.320 Be four rest they're after. 21 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:04.840 Staying the airplanes here to God more Calm on an 22 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:08.799 Unidentified object every liberty four call or calm on an 23 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:14.120 Unidentified flying object. 24 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.120 A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share 25 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.400 their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 26 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.519 an encounter, I would like to be on the show. 27 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:47.879 You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 28 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:51.319 Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you 29 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:55.280 all doing? Another week and never Encounter. I'm Nick Hunter 30 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:59.040 and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. In this episode, 31 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:03.239 Michael all In from California shares a childhood encounter that 32 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:06.319 began on a quiet street in Haywood in the mid 33 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:11.159 nineteen eighties when an ordinary walk suddenly took an unexpected turn. 34 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:15.280 A vortex formed overhead, followed by a sudden blackout. He 35 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.120 then described standing beneath a craft as blue light flashed 36 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:23.680 across the pavement and houses around him. Michael is up next, 37 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:26.080 but first, if you enjoyed a show and you would 38 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.039 like to help support the podcast on Patreon, you can 39 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:31.360 do this for as little as one dollar a month. 40 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:35.159 Head on over to patreon dot com forward slash UFO 41 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:37.960 Chronicles podcast. You can also find a link in the 42 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:41.639 description of this episode. Any help is very much appreciated. 43 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:59.960 Now on with the show. Hello Michael, Welcome to the podcast. 44 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:01.879 Hey Nick, thanks for having. 45 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:04.759 Me, No, thank you for your company tonight. And you're 46 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:06.520 calling in from California. 47 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:10.159 That's right, I'm in the Bay Area over here, the. 48 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:13.719 Bay Area great stuff. Okay, Michael, you have some experiences 49 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:16.400 to share. Would you like to start the beginning please, 50 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:17.879 sir Ah. 51 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:19.840 Yeah, I'd love to. I guess it all kind of 52 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:24.840 started back in nineteen eighty five in Hayward, California. I 53 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:29.199 was twelve years old and I was living two eight 54 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:33.879 six three East eleventh Street, and I had just graduated 55 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:37.879 Bowman Elementary School and I was looking forward to not 56 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:40.680 only my summer, my summer vacation, but I was looking 57 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:45.319 forward to going into junior high school, you know. And 58 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:50.520 I was living with a Lopez family, Mike, Greg, Robert, Bob, 59 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:53.240 and Ellie. They kind of took us in. I was 60 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:56.680 actually living across the street from them. We had our 61 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:59.280 own house for a couple of years across the street 62 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:03.000 from them at two eight eight eight eleventh Street, but 63 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:06.960 my mom had to sell that house and we really 64 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:09.080 didn't have nowhere to go. But luckily we had some 65 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:12.439 really good family like friends that lived across the street, 66 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:14.560 the Lopez family, and they took us in. And that's 67 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:18.680 where I was living at the time. And I'll take 68 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:22.800 you right into it, Nick. Yeah, I remember walking literally 69 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:26.639 walking right out that screen door from the house and 70 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.439 I walked right out into the road there and I 71 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:34.879 bumped into my friend named Chano. And normally when I 72 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.480 go outside and play or whatever, I would normally just 73 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:41.079 pick up my friend Francisco that literally lived kind of 74 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:43.000 across the street from me, and we would go out 75 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:46.000 on adventures all over that neighborhood. It was kind of 76 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:50.000 like my childhood neighborhood, you know. And this time I 77 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:52.800 ran into my friend Chano. Now Chanto and I didn't 78 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:54.959 really hang out like all the time. He wasn't my 79 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:58.680 best friend, but it was a schoolmate of mine, and 80 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:03.160 that's why I ran into And I have the advantage 81 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.920 of talking to you as a fifty two year old 82 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:10.199 grown man and reflecting on that moment, it was a 83 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:13.360 little eerie because there was not much conversation between me 84 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:17.399 and Chaanto. It was just a bit of an understanding 85 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:19.439 that it was time for a walk around the block. 86 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:22.759 Reflecting on that moment now, like I said, it just 87 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:26.519 seemed a little eerie. So it bakes the difference if 88 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:29.439 it was all kind of meant to be, like it 89 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:33.439 was all part of the plan, something that something that 90 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:36.560 was planned out by someone else, not us. But as 91 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:39.560 a twelve year old boy, didn't think nothing of it. 92 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:42.439 I just ran into my friend Chano, and there wasn't 93 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:45.920 much discussion. We just decided. We just decided that it 94 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:49.120 was time to walk around the block, and that's what 95 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:53.560 we did. It had I think it was about July 96 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:59.680 July of nineteen eighty five, and I would approximate that 97 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:03.959 it was probably like seven to eight pm and it 98 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:08.120 was just starting to get dark. I remember that. And 99 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.480 as we started walking around the block, before we even 100 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:15.519 hit the little first hairpin turn of the block, I 101 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.240 was taking notice to this of the sky. The sky 102 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:21.519 was beautiful that night, and you know, there was nothing 103 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:24.439 out of the ordinary. I was just really, you know, 104 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:29.600 admiring how pretty the clouds looked. They seemed really really white, 105 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.279 and I figured, you know, oh, it's probably the moon 106 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:37.600 just lighting up the clouds. And the clouds also appeared 107 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:41.319 to be moving pretty quick. But even at twelve years old, 108 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:46.519 I understood that they were pretty low and they may 109 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.160 have appeared to be moving pretty quick because those clouds 110 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:53.120 were pretty low that night, So there was really nothing 111 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:56.399 out of the ordinary. I was just admiring the pretty sky. 112 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:59.519 I mean, there's a lot of misconceptions when people are 113 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:04.079 talking about out UFOs or UFO abductions. You know, a 114 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:06.959 lot of people picture somebody, you know, getting sucked up 115 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.680 into some tractor beam, you know who. They're like, Oh 116 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.399 my gosh, I'm getting sucked up into this flying saucer, 117 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:16.079 you know. And that's a huge misconception. That's not how 118 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:19.160 it happened for me. For me, I was just admiring 119 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.720 the pretty clouds, and all of a sudden there was 120 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:26.120 a section of the clouds that began to swirl. It 121 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:28.560 was like a vortex in the clouds. There was a 122 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:32.079 couple of thoughts that ram through my mind before I 123 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:36.480 totally blacked out. And this is the most confusing part 124 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:42.040 of my experience, is this very initial beginning part right here. 125 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:45.319 Then I'm explaining about the clouds, because it all started 126 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:48.839 for me in the clouds. It wasn't some flying saucer 127 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:52.920 that I noticed flying around and it decided to pick 128 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.040 us up. I was. It started with the clouds. It 129 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:59.600 was just me admiring the pretty clouds, and all of 130 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:04.079 a sudden they started to swirl into like a vortex. Now, 131 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:07.319 this vortex in the clouds, it was not like a 132 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:13.240 natural phenomenon like a whirlwind or a funnel or anything 133 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.199 like that. We don't have that kind of weather in 134 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.079 the Bay Area anyway. Over here in California, Northern California. 135 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:27.439 It was a real crisp, clean, calculated clockwise swirl, and 136 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.959 it was very small. There was a couple of thoughts 137 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.200 that ran through my head when I saw this. I 138 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:34.159 did a double take and I was like wow. I 139 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:38.559 remember thinking, are those clouds starting to swirl? And then 140 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:41.720 the next thought was, oh, my god, they are swirling, 141 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:46.480 and it's swirling fast. And I was gone. I completely 142 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:52.159 blacked out, And my very next conscious moment, I was 143 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:55.399 no longer standing there. I know where I was standing. 144 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:59.840 I was standing right before the hairpin turn of the 145 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:06.480 facing south on East eleventh Street. My next conscious moment, 146 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:11.720 I am now facing north on East tenth Street, about 147 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:16.759 a half a block further down the road, and I'm paralyzed. 148 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.919 I cannot move. My arms are stuck to the side 149 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.399 of my body like a soldier, and my head is 150 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.759 cocked straight up and I am looking at the belly 151 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.600 of a flying saucer. I knew exactly what I was 152 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:34.240 looking at right away. I've heard of these things before, 153 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:38.440 you know, And here I am. I wasn't able to move. 154 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:41.200 But you know, Nick, at the moment, I was just 155 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:43.559 chalking it up to, Oh, I just don't want to 156 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.159 miss a moment of this, you know. I've heard of 157 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:50.080 UFOs and I heard that, you know, they probably won't 158 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.120 stick around for very long before it takes off, So 159 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:55.399 I wanted to enjoy every moment. So that's what I 160 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:57.799 was thinking. I was thinking to myself, Oh, I probably 161 00:09:57.879 --> 00:10:00.879 can't move because I don't want to miss moment of it, 162 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:05.200 you know. But reflecting on that moment once again now 163 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:09.080 as an adult, I realize, Nick, I was paralyzed. They 164 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:12.720 had me, they had complete control over me, and I 165 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:16.240 couldn't move if I wanted to, you know. But yeah, 166 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:19.279 that was it. I blacked out. My next conscious moment, 167 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:25.159 I'm displaced half a block down the road, and I 168 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:28.399 am looking straight up at the belly of a flying 169 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:33.000 saucer and there's this blue light that is flashing on 170 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:36.600 the belly of this craft. And as this blue light 171 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:41.000 is flashing, it is illuminating little parts of the ship. 172 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:45.440 I can see in great detail. And I do see 173 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:51.120 like integral two being. I see like wires seen through 174 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:53.840 the ship, seen through the skin of the ship for 175 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:56.279 some reason. I don't know what that was, but the 176 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:59.600 blue light was randomly just flashing all over the belly 177 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:04.200 of this and I remember thinking it looked a little sloppy. 178 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.320 I don't know if it's the libra in me, you know, 179 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.600 the whole balance and things had to be symmetrical, but 180 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:14.799 it was sloppy. It was a sloppy looking blue light, 181 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:17.399 and it almost made me think that, you know, this 182 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:20.320 thing had some kind of electrical issue that it was 183 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.519 going through. And as soon as I thought, what, you know, like, hey, 184 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:28.159 does it seem like it's having an electrical issue. As 185 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:30.200 soon as I thought that, it snapped out of whatever 186 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:33.519 electrical issues I was thinking it had and it began 187 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:37.440 to put an all out beautiful, multi colored light show 188 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:42.960 every color that I could possibly imagine, blue, green, red, purple, silver. 189 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:46.879 It just had all these beautiful colors, and it was 190 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.279 more balanced than that blue light that was randomly just 191 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:52.639 kind of flashing all over the place. It was almost 192 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.080 as if they heard me in my mind, you know, 193 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.559 as I was thinking. There was a few things that 194 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.000 I thought in my head. One of the things I 195 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.799 thought was, Wow, they understand everything about me. There's nothing 196 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:08.200 that I can hide from them. There was a thought 197 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:12.000 in my mind that ran through my head, thinking, well, 198 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:14.720 they're not going to hurt me. They understand that I'm 199 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:18.399 not going to do anything to them. This multicolored light 200 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:21.360 show is beautiful, and it really made me think that 201 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:23.759 they were showing off. They were trying to let me 202 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.960 know that they were not having any kind of electrical 203 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.159 issues at all. They were just because it was just 204 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:31.919 as soon as I thought that, it just started showing 205 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:35.840 off with this beautiful, beautiful, multicolored light show and the 206 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.600 lights would start off dancing around the perimeter of the ship. 207 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:43.360 It was a saucer shaped craft, just like your typical 208 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:46.519 description of a flying saucer, and I'm just looking at 209 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:49.559 the belly of it at the moment. The light show, 210 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:52.159 like I said, it started off like kind of around 211 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:54.159 the perimeter of the ship, and it would move its 212 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:57.840 way towards the core of the ship, and just like 213 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:03.159 the funnel in the clouds, started off slow and the 214 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:06.960 light show just got faster and faster and faster, and 215 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:09.679 it was just amazing. And I remember thinking, you know, 216 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:13.240 you know, no one's going to believe this, Oh gosh, 217 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:15.279 you know, because I was in the regular neighborhood. A 218 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:17.360 misconception to think that you need to go to some 219 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:22.200 you know, mountaintop somewhere or a desert or area fifty 220 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.200 one to experience something like this. This was just a 221 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:30.639 regular neighborhood, you know, this was my childhood neighborhood. Man. 222 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:35.720 The light show all of a sudden stopped and the 223 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:41.200 craft glided ahead of ways to where now I'm looking 224 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:44.759 at the whole craft in its entirety. I can see 225 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:48.200 the whole craft. I'm no longer standing directly underneath it. 226 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:51.799 I can see the whole thing, and it's pretty streamlined, 227 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:56.279 pretty basic. It's your saucer, your typical saucer shaped craft, 228 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:00.440 nothing dramatic about it. It was pretty much symmetrical. Top 229 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.759 and the bottom pretty much looked the same. And this 230 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:09.720 craft did a slight little wobble before it took off 231 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:13.519 near the speed of light. This thing took off east 232 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:18.759 over the Hayward Hills, and it moved so fast that 233 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:23.159 if I would have blinked my eyes, I probably would 234 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:28.039 have thought that the craft just disappeared. But I was 235 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.559 watching it, and I seen it with my own eyeballs. 236 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:35.879 That thing took off so slick, so smooth, so fast. 237 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:39.720 It was comical. It was I remember thinking that it 238 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:42.600 looked like some kind of cartoon that I just watched. 239 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.240 It took off so fast, it didn't make any noise. 240 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:49.759 It just seemed to get stucked right out of the picture. 241 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:53.279 Nick I was finally able to move. I was able 242 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:56.240 to move. As soon as that craft left. I was 243 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.039 able to move, and I wanted to check on my Franchano, 244 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:02.039 who was the last time I checked, was standing to 245 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:05.000 my left. And sure enough, I looked to my left 246 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:08.519 and there's my friend Chano. And the first words out 247 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:12.519 of my mouth after the UFO took off was that 248 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:17.840 was a UFO. Huh? And my friend Chano just goes yeah. 249 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.120 And it kind of blew me away just to hear 250 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:25.399 a reaction from my friend like that. It didn't sound 251 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:30.000 very impressed at all. I understood right away that he 252 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:33.519 was very uncomfortable about even talking about what we had 253 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:38.120 just experienced. I was just blown away. I was, you know, 254 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:42.240 I was shocked. You know, I was shocked upon looking 255 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:45.080 at the vortex and the clouds. I was shocked at 256 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:48.919 being underneath the UFO as it puts on this multicolored 257 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:52.399 light show. And now this is a whole nother level 258 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:55.279 of a shock to hear my friend not sound very 259 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:58.919 impressed at all from what we just experienced together. We 260 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:01.360 just kept walking Aro around the block, got close to 261 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:04.039 the end of the walk and I could tell he 262 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:05.960 didn't want to talk about it, so I didn't. But 263 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:10.720 we literally just experience something most people, you know, spend 264 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:13.879 their entire life. Most people don't experience anything out of 265 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:16.720 the ordinary like this, and man, I wanted to talk 266 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:20.279 about it, but he just was not impressed. It was 267 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:24.600 just a really weird, odd rest of the walk home. 268 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:29.399 But before we got to the Lopez family's house, I 269 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:33.639 remember seeing Charano's older brother, Peter, and Peter had a 270 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:36.799 couple of friends out in front of Chano's house and 271 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:38.799 they were talking and stuff. So I thought I'd give 272 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:42.879 it another go, and I couldn't wait to share my experience. 273 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:47.200 Was somebody you know that would think it was impressive, 274 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:50.679 because it is? Sure? And the heck impressed me. So 275 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:53.840 we get closer to Chano's older brother, Peter and his 276 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:56.120 friends and I go, hey, guys, you know, we just 277 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:00.600 seen a UFO And one of Peter's friends goes, oh, yeah, 278 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:04.039 we seen it too, And it went that way, and 279 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:08.079 he pointed to the direction that you know, the craft went. 280 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:11.079 He pointed east towards the Hayward Hills. So I for 281 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:14.000 a split second there I was. I really believed him, 282 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:16.519 and it didn't take long for me to realize that 283 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:18.839 these kids were just they were just pulling my leg, 284 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:22.200 you know, they were just playing around. And I totally 285 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:24.640 understood that. You know, even at twelve years old, I 286 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:27.640 understood that this was going to be pretty this was 287 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:29.960 going to be a pretty tough pill to swallow. I 288 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.359 understood that scene is going to have to be believing, 289 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:36.720 and I just kind of put my head down. And 290 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:40.640 you know, Chano didn't he didn't fess up anything. He 291 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:44.119 didn't support me at all. So I just kind of 292 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.759 put my head down and went back into the house 293 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:49.240 and I tried to tell a couple more people in 294 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.119 the house. But the problem was, Nick, I was a 295 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:55.240 bit of a class clown growing up, and it was 296 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:58.960 a bit hard for me to convince other people of 297 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:02.079 something of this magnitude. I knew it was going to 298 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:06.279 be hard to convince people, you know, right away, but 299 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.559 especially being a class clown like I was, it's hard 300 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:13.039 to get anybody to take me serious, let alone talk 301 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:17.279 about an event like this. So I wasn't shy about 302 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:21.119 telling people this until I reached a point where I 303 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:23.519 felt like I got jaded. You know, you talk to 304 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:27.079 somebody long enough about your experience and they'll try to 305 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:29.000 talk you out of it. And I had plenty of 306 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:32.920 those kind of conversations with people where they're like almost 307 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:35.119 pretty much trying to talk me out of what I 308 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.920 witnessed because it was just too much for them. It's 309 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:41.039 too mind blowing to believe something like that out of 310 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:44.400 my mouth. I enjoyed the rest of the summer try 311 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:47.599 to tell who I could. I remember starting junior high 312 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:50.440 school and I couldn't wait to tell everybody and their 313 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:54.720 mother about my UFO experience. And of course, you know, 314 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:58.240 it was tough to convince people of what I experienced. 315 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:00.640 But as soon as I told them that, you know, 316 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.480 I had somebody with me. You know, Chaano was with me. 317 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:06.920 And everyone knew that Chainna was more of a serious guy. 318 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.359 He was on the football team. I remember his parents 319 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:15.160 were a bit more religious. His family was more into 320 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:19.440 church and things like that. So my friends would kind 321 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:21.799 of take a little a second ear to my conversation 322 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:24.000 and they go, okay, let's go track down Chronto. And 323 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:27.880 I would find Chauno. Chaanto would be like, man, Mike, 324 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:31.759 you're still talking about that, Like, yeah, Chronto, I'm still 325 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:34.160 talking about it. You know, I'm afraid I'm gonna be 326 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:36.640 talking about this the rest of my life. All I 327 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:39.319 would try to get out of this guy was a validation. 328 00:19:39.640 --> 00:19:42.000 I pretty much just try to get a yes or 329 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:44.559 a no out of him, and he would he would 330 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:48.079 acknowledge that we have this experience together. But there was 331 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.079 no details, There was no conversation. It was just basically 332 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:57.519 very short and simple. It was Chaano saying yeah, that 333 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:00.400 was it, you know, like, yeah, the you know, whatever 334 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:03.519 Mike said is true. And you know, all I really 335 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:07.480 talked about Nick was the UFO and and I believe 336 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:10.440 the light show that it put on. I never talked 337 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:13.599 about the vortex and the clouds that I had seen 338 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:18.960 just prior to being locked underneath that UFO. Like I said, 339 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:21.799 that was the most confusing part. And I really didn't 340 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:25.759 bring it up to people because to me, it really 341 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:29.640 felt like it discredited my UFO story. If I'm if 342 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:31.960 I'm gonna you know, you know, sit around talking about 343 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.319 a vortex and the clouds a funnel that just kind 344 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:38.640 of took took my my consciousness and made me black out. 345 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:41.240 No one's gonna, you know hear that. I mean, heck, 346 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:44.400 I didn't. I didn't even understand that part of my experience. 347 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:48.279 It's only actually been probably the last five or six 348 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.279 years that I have totally come completely out of the closet, 349 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:57.000 became honest with myself and called called it what it 350 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:00.079 truly was. It took me a long time to be 351 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:02.400 brave enough to call it what it was, and it 352 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:06.079 was an abduction. They took me. I have missing time. 353 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:09.240 There's a part of the block that I did not walk, 354 00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:12.359 you know what I mean. I was facing I was 355 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:15.279 facing south when I saw the clouds swirl. Now I 356 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.839 am facing north and I'm on a different street. I'm 357 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:22.079 about a half a block away. I was displaced, and 358 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:25.559 I'm glad that they displaced me because now I know 359 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:28.920 for a fact that that's what they did. They took me. 360 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:33.599 And it's not like I necessarily have all this memory 361 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:38.079 of being on board the craft. A lot of this stuff, unfortunately, 362 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:42.200 it gets locked into your subconscious So when someone tells 363 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:45.799 you they've been abducted by a UFO. It's a huge 364 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:50.319 misconception to think that this person has all the memories 365 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:55.279 retained in their mind of the experience. I only have 366 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:59.799 bits and pieces of memory. And then there's also this 367 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:04.400 big gap that's missing, that's the missing time I have. 368 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:07.519 There's some dreams that I've had that I've had soon 369 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:12.079 after the UFO experience that really blew me away. One 370 00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:14.400 of the dreams that I had was it was a 371 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:21.680 reoccurring dream of me waking up in a UFO this long, white, 372 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:27.079 windy hallway. You know, I kept waking up in this long, white, 373 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:31.000 windy hallway with doors to my right. And it took 374 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:33.839 a couple of nights, two or three nights nick before 375 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:39.720 I finally told myself, you know, lucidly in my dreams, Michael, 376 00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:43.519 you're having the same dream again. Here you are. And 377 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:48.599 I realized that I was very familiar with this part 378 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.640 of the ship. And what I did was I told myself, Hey, Mike, 379 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:56.279 open up this door. And if you open up this 380 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:58.680 door and you and you walk in and you see 381 00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:03.200 a big, giant AMPU theater type setting, then you know 382 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:05.160 where you're at. And that's what I did. I opened 383 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:08.839 up this certain door on my right, and sure enough 384 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:14.119 I was in this huge gigantic room that really looked 385 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:18.200 like an Amphia theater setting. I was on like a 386 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:24.200 stage looking out into the seating. Everything was really bright 387 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:29.599 or white in this in this craft, including the gigantic 388 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:32.200 room that I was in, it was all very bright 389 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:36.039 or white. I was standing on the stage. I felt 390 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:38.680 like I had somebody standing with me, but you know what, 391 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:42.200 I was by myself. I felt like someone was giving 392 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:46.720 me a tour, and I was on some kind of 393 00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:51.200 stage looking out into what would be the seating. This 394 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:58.000 seating was really weird. It was like blobs of blackness. 395 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:03.039 It looked like melted obsision. It was very abstract. But 396 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:08.240 in contrast to everything else in the room, it really 397 00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:11.240 stood out because, like I said, everything was really bright 398 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:17.799 or white, except for some reason, the seating area there 399 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:23.279 was just all this like black obsidian looking. I don't 400 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.000 know what it was, but that's what I was looking at. 401 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.680