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Speaker 3: Do you wish to find a report of any kind
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Speaker 1: Yeah it's murder two nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over.
Speaker 2: God.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but it's from at
Speaker 1: least to three thousand feet above us.
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Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 2: I sear to God more calm on an unidentified object
Speaker 2: every liberty or call or calm on an unidentified flying object.
Speaker 4: A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
Speaker 4: their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
Speaker 4: an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
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Speaker 3: Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. And I hope
Speaker 3: you're all doing okay. I'm Nick Hunter and this is
Speaker 3: the UFO Chronicles podcast. Our first guest we have tonight
Speaker 3: is Lauren in British Columbia, and Lauren will not only
Speaker 3: be sharing her own experience, but also her mother's in
Speaker 3: nineteen forty her grandparents citing of a close up UFO
Speaker 3: in Mexico in nineteen seventy two, and a husband's possible
Speaker 3: reduction from the family camper in nineteen sixty five when
Speaker 3: he was a child. And following Lauren, we speak with
Speaker 3: Nate in Oregon about what happened while on a road
Speaker 3: trip with his son in Neverda in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: They both witnessed a convoy with a large military and
Speaker 3: police presence transporting a strange object on the back of
Speaker 3: a flatbed truck. Lauren is up next, but first, if
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Speaker 3: Good evening, Lauren, and welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Nick.
Speaker 3: It is great to have you with us. And you're
Speaker 3: calling from Canada.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're located in the Vancouver area, and most
Speaker 2: of what I have to say tonight does sort of
Speaker 2: originate in the BC Province of BC.
Speaker 5: But there is one.
Speaker 2: Story that's a deep, dark family secret from Mexico that
Speaker 2: I had to ask the entire family if it was
Speaker 2: okay to shire to share.
Speaker 3: Okay, you have prepared and you're up on the West Coast.
Speaker 3: Great stuff. Now, Lauren, you have joined us to share
Speaker 3: some of your experiences. Would you like to start the
Speaker 3: beginning please, ma'am?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 2: And I guess really, when I mean where it really
Speaker 2: starts is I think I've been thinking quite a lot
Speaker 2: about this for a long time, about sharing these with you.
Speaker 2: Listen to the show for a long time and it's
Speaker 2: excellent and really just sort of what held me back
Speaker 2: was the fact that, like so many families, I think
Speaker 2: we really felt like this. You know, the stories I'm
Speaker 2: about to say, we're family secrets. So I had to
Speaker 2: turn around and go to my brothers and sisters and
Speaker 2: my mom, who's now eighty three, to say is are
Speaker 2: you okay with me sharing this now? And funny enough,
Speaker 2: she came out with a story that I had never
Speaker 2: ever heard before. At the age of eighty three, this
Speaker 2: was my first first time hearing this secret. But she
Speaker 2: told me that when she was growing up in Abbotsford,
Speaker 2: they were a farming family there.
Speaker 5: And she said that.
Speaker 2: She just sort of said to me matter of factly,
Speaker 2: when I was asking her if it was okay to
Speaker 2: share on the podcast, she said, well, we.
Speaker 5: Always knew the way that they were there.
Speaker 2: Everybody knew about them. And I said, well, what do
Speaker 2: you mean UFOs and she's like, oh, my god, yeah,
Speaker 2: she goes, we used to see them all the time.
Speaker 2: So we're going back to the early forties. She said
Speaker 2: about forty six, she was about sixty seven years old
Speaker 2: and she was walking in one of the farm roads
Speaker 2: with her sister and her cousin and this UFO just
Speaker 2: whipped across the sky in front of them, and she said, oh,
Speaker 2: we knew right away what it was, and we had
Speaker 2: heard about them from people, and so we went running
Speaker 2: to the local they knew where the local reporter lived,
Speaker 2: so they.
Speaker 5: Went running all the way to her house.
Speaker 2: They were so excited to tell this woman about this
Speaker 2: UFO that they'd seen, and they basically got laughed at.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, yeah, right, you know. So, so my
Speaker 2: mom says, I don't care what anybody else says. We
Speaker 2: know what we saw. And that's kind of where this
Speaker 2: all sort of starts from. So it's her parents that
Speaker 2: when we were in the nineteen seventies, they used to
Speaker 2: live in the Shoe Swap, but before that they lived
Speaker 2: at Cambridge and they owned several city blocks there. They
Speaker 2: built a big complex there. So anyways, they did that
Speaker 2: night I as a kid, and then they'd spend their
Speaker 2: winters in Mexico and then they eventually sold that the
Speaker 2: big you know, the blocks, and they made a lot
Speaker 2: of money and started wintering seriously down in Porta Vireta.
Speaker 5: For this is about oh gosh, it got to be about.
Speaker 2: Forty fifty years so now, so it would have been
Speaker 2: the late seventies, and they used to rent a villa
Speaker 2: down there and they were kind of hanging out with
Speaker 2: a pretty racy crowd. I think some of the people
Speaker 2: that used to hang out with were sort of.
Speaker 5: Heirs to the Hindes ketchup fortunes.
Speaker 2: So they thought, you know, they were kind of having
Speaker 2: a really good time down there. But when they came
Speaker 2: home with this story, they said to us, they said,
Speaker 2: please don't ever say anything to anybody, because this ever
Speaker 2: got out, you know, I mean it would have at
Speaker 2: that time in the seventies if people had heard this
Speaker 2: story that were about to tell you, they would have
Speaker 2: been ousted from their social group, They would have lost
Speaker 2: their friends in Kamloops. They would have been laughing stocks
Speaker 2: in the community because there was such a I don't know,
Speaker 2: there was just such skepticism and lack of belief in
Speaker 2: those generations.
Speaker 5: But this is what happened to them.
Speaker 2: So apparently they came home after a dinner party one
Speaker 2: night when they were sitting out on their second floor
Speaker 2: deck and it was a beautiful night and there was
Speaker 2: a bunch of stars out, there was a nice breeze,
Speaker 2: and they were just enjoying that, just about to go
Speaker 2: to bed, and right there was a palm tree about
Speaker 2: ten feet off the deck and it only went up
Speaker 2: about another ten or fifteen feet above the deck. And
Speaker 2: she said that while they were sitting there, this UFO
Speaker 2: just kind of dropped right out of the sky and
Speaker 2: it stopped over top of the palm tree and it
Speaker 2: just sat there and I said, we said, well.
Speaker 5: You know what it look like? And oh, well, it
Speaker 5: was a normal just like a UFO.
Speaker 2: She said that you see on TV it was saws
Speaker 2: or shape that it had flashing lights all the way
Speaker 2: around it that were moving.
Speaker 5: And they didn't know what to do. And that's what
Speaker 5: I said, Well, what did you do?
Speaker 2: Because that would have terrified me? And they said, yeah,
Speaker 2: we were really scared. So we just pretended we didn't
Speaker 2: see it, and we sat there, like, didn't even move
Speaker 2: a muscle until it last.
Speaker 5: And until i'd heard that story, my.
Speaker 2: Grandmother was always bringing us home paperback books about UFOs
Speaker 2: and was always very interested in the topic. And then
Speaker 2: once I found out that they didn't tell us this
Speaker 2: until we were teenagers, like kids, it would be too
Speaker 2: much for us to handle. But when they did tell
Speaker 2: us finally, to me, it just made so much sense.
Speaker 2: So and then the next story was around I don't know,
Speaker 2: probably late seventies, I guess. We were at their place
Speaker 2: in Shoe Shop Lake and they had a big beautiful
Speaker 2: property that rolled down to the Lake mcdoc. And we
Speaker 2: used to water ski and have a really good time there,
Speaker 2: and the whole family would be there every summer.
Speaker 5: So we were sitting down.
Speaker 2: At the and the Sandy Beach area and we had
Speaker 2: a fire going and we sit down there and play
Speaker 2: guitar and tell stories and laugh and whatever. And it
Speaker 2: was kind of twilight, and we're sitting there and I
Speaker 2: was looking out over the mountain range, which is sort
Speaker 2: of the I don't know what range, I guess Clost
Speaker 2: Mountains probably, And it was just a beautiful evening. It
Speaker 2: was clear as a bell, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: this light and it was about the size of I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe maybe the end of a chapstick, maybe
Speaker 2: that about that kind of a circle, and it was
Speaker 2: a really really bright light and it went shooting right
Speaker 2: across the whole mountain range and it took about I
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm going to say three seconds for it
Speaker 2: to get all the way across the mountain range and
Speaker 2: it stopped dead and then it literally just stood there
Speaker 2: for in the sky for maybe one account of three
Speaker 2: and then just shot right up in the air straight
Speaker 2: and just disappeared out of sight, and I thought, oh wow,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, did it What did I just see? Thought?
Speaker 2: That's got to have been in the UFO. And I
Speaker 2: turned around and there was my grandmother and she was
Speaker 2: standing beside me, and even though the whole family knew
Speaker 2: that they had seen these things before and been pretty
Speaker 2: close to one, she had to.
Speaker 5: She whispered to me and she's like, did you see that?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I totally saw that, and she's well,
Speaker 2: that's the UFL and you know, it was just like
Speaker 2: it was almost a secret between the two of us too, right,
Speaker 2: So we all knew about it, but we didn't really.
Speaker 5: Talk about it.
Speaker 2: But from that day on, because I had seen that
Speaker 2: and I knew there was absolutely nothing on earth that
Speaker 2: moves in that way, there's nothing that does that that
Speaker 2: goes straight across that past and then goes straight up.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, okay, so I believe. So that made
Speaker 5: me a believer. So then I'll move along here.
Speaker 2: I find the love of my life and I get
Speaker 2: married and this family story comes out, and I actually
Speaker 2: this is an old story. So before again, before I
Speaker 2: wanted to come on tonight and talk about it. I
Speaker 2: wanted to re verify facts with the family and wanted
Speaker 2: to make sure that I was remembered it right, because
Speaker 2: you have a tendency to embolish.
Speaker 5: Stories as you get older.
Speaker 2: And know his eighty three and ninety year old parents
Speaker 2: tell this story exactly the way that I'm going to
Speaker 2: just tell you guys right now.
Speaker 5: And this is so odd because and.
Speaker 2: I'll explain why afterwards, but my husband is kind of
Speaker 2: he's kind of got something different about him. He was
Speaker 2: out at five years old were the family was coming
Speaker 2: from Edmonton to Vancouver for a holiday before they moved here,
Speaker 2: and they were using a camping trailer and it was
Speaker 2: one of those ones you know you pop up, you
Speaker 2: put behind the car and then you drive, and then
Speaker 2: when you get to where you're going, you pop up
Speaker 2: the walls and it locked from the inside and it's
Speaker 2: got snaps all the way around it that you know,
Speaker 2: secure it.
Speaker 5: And then there's kind of two sleeping areas.
Speaker 2: So they had his.
Speaker 5: Older brother who was satn on the floor.
Speaker 2: And they put Brian, who was five, on this ledge
Speaker 2: that was kind of over the back of the trailer.
Speaker 2: And at that age he still liked to be tucked
Speaker 2: in so his mom did the sleeping bag tuck in
Speaker 2: where he dipped him right out, had his pillow in
Speaker 2: there with him, and it tucked him all in, so
Speaker 2: he was like a sort of a little slug there
Speaker 2: and he couldn't really move, and off they go to sleep.
Speaker 2: They locked the door from the inside in the morning
Speaker 2: and he's gone.
Speaker 5: But it's not just him that's gone, it's his sleeping.
Speaker 2: Bag and his pillow and there's nothing there.
Speaker 5: And it's still locked from the inside.
Speaker 2: So they're like, well, what the heck still, that's what
Speaker 2: they said, with a few stronger language, but they so they,
Speaker 2: you know, get out in the campground and you're yelling
Speaker 2: and they're calling.
Speaker 5: And trying to find him.
Speaker 2: And he spent about fifteen minutes looking for him and
Speaker 2: asking people, you know, if they'd seen this little boy.
Speaker 2: And then his dad decided, well, I better go start
Speaker 2: driving the highway to see if he wanted out by
Speaker 2: the highway, because it was fairly close to the highway
Speaker 2: where they were, and he went to he looks down
Speaker 2: underneath the camper and directly underneath where he'd been sleeping,
Speaker 2: directly underneath there he is still tucked in the whole
Speaker 2: ways sleeping bag is tucked in his blanket, pillows still
Speaker 2: under his head like it was just like I always
Speaker 2: said after hearing that story, that they just put a
Speaker 2: mac wrong. So they dropped him a little too low
Speaker 2: and they when they returned him, whoever took him. But
Speaker 2: that's such an odd story, and so that I always
Speaker 2: stick and sticks in my mind because he has sort
Speaker 2: of an unusual immune system.
Speaker 5: So I've been with him for about thirty.
Speaker 2: Five years and I can only out two times that
Speaker 2: he's ever been set that I know of a cold
Speaker 2: or flu.
Speaker 5: I had COVID I was in the same room with him.
Speaker 2: He's never had it.
Speaker 5: He never got seck. He just doesn't get sick. He
Speaker 5: doesn't get cold, he doesn't get anything.
Speaker 2: And when we were first sort of together, we first
Speaker 2: few times were going over to my parents us my
Speaker 2: mom was cooking for him. And the first time we
Speaker 2: went there, he came home and he's like we were
Speaker 2: living together at the time, and he said, oh, my
Speaker 2: got the worst stomach ache. And I thought, this is
Speaker 2: not like you. You never complained about pain. Something's got
Speaker 2: to be really wrong. So this went on for a
Speaker 2: couple hours where he was in agony and I said,
Speaker 2: we're going to hospital. So we took him to Merch
Speaker 2: and the hospital was pretty close here. It was community hospital.
Speaker 2: So they do some blood tests and they find an
Speaker 2: elevated you know, white blood cell counts, and they're like, yes,
Speaker 2: you're having problems with your appendix. It looks like your
Speaker 2: appendix is going to burst. We're going to have a
Speaker 2: surgeon coming in the morning and you know, take it
Speaker 2: out for you. So I go home, of course, because
Speaker 2: they won't let me stay. I get a call at
Speaker 2: six thirty in the morning, we'll come pick me up.
Speaker 2: I'm going, well, what's going on? Well, you know what,
Speaker 2: they did another blood test before the surgeon took me
Speaker 2: in and there's nothing wrong. So his blood test was
Speaker 2: completely normal. There was no sign of anything, and he
Speaker 2: was perfect. So then the next time this happens, it
Speaker 2: was you know, well, the third time it happened, it
Speaker 2: was a joke because I'm like, okay, it's got to
Speaker 2: be my mother's cooking. There's something going on here that's
Speaker 2: you know, not normal, but I don't know what it is.
Speaker 5: So the fifth time.
Speaker 2: Had happened, he was at work this time, so he
Speaker 2: drives himself to the hospital. The doctor says, okay, be
Speaker 2: back at four o'clock. First, we're going to do surgery
Speaker 2: right away. So he goes back, does some banking, goes
Speaker 2: for a beer with a buddy.
Speaker 5: Then goes back to the hospital at five to four,
Speaker 5: where the.
Speaker 2: Tire medical team is like, well where that could you
Speaker 2: be in? Blah blah blah freaking out they would feel
Speaker 2: him in And the next morning I get a call
Speaker 2: again at six thirty in the morning and he said.
Speaker 5: Come pick me up. I'm like, well, what's going on?
Speaker 2: And he said, well, I just talked to the surgeon
Speaker 2: and they're going to let me go home in about
Speaker 2: an hour, so I need you to come in. So
Speaker 2: I went in to pick him up and he said, oh,
Speaker 2: You'll never believe this, and I'm like, well, what happens right?
Speaker 2: He goes, well, the surgeon asked if you could keep
Speaker 2: my appendix and I said, well, we why is that?
Speaker 2: And he said, well, do you know what an appendix is?
Speaker 5: And I said, well, not really.
Speaker 2: I know my brother's burst one time and he was
Speaker 2: really sick and he said, yeah, it's a little dead
Speaker 2: piece of tissue that's kind of on the end of
Speaker 2: your I guess thought leand of your coal and I'm
Speaker 2: not quite sure.
Speaker 5: Where, but it's dead.
Speaker 2: As the doctor explained it to him, it's not living tissue.
Speaker 2: It doesn't regenerate itself. If it gets infected, it has
Speaker 2: to be removed, or you know, basically, if it burst,
Speaker 2: it just puts a bunch of poison into your system
Speaker 2: and you get really sick. I'm like, oh, and he
Speaker 2: goes he said. The doctor was, or the surgeon was
Speaker 2: really adamant. It doesn't heal itself. If it bursts, it
Speaker 2: pretty much has to be removed. I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: and he said, he said, John, he asked if you could.
Speaker 5: Keep it, And I said, why is that?
Speaker 2: He goes, well, because six separate sets of scar tissue
Speaker 2: on my appendix, so five times it had burst and
Speaker 2: healed itself, and then the sixth time they took it out.
Speaker 2: But honestly, every time that it burst, his entire.
Speaker 5: System would have been flooded with these poisons.
Speaker 2: And within hours he had metabolized it and completely it
Speaker 2: was gone. It was like he was perfectly normal the
Speaker 2: next day, which is the weirdest thing I've ever heard of.
Speaker 2: So then I go, So then we are daughter, we
Speaker 2: have a daughter, and she's eleven and is diagnosed with
Speaker 2: leukemia and it's pretty good devastating as you can imagine
Speaker 2: for parents. And we kept saying, well, you know, with
Speaker 2: Ryan's got half the good imus system, so I'm sure
Speaker 2: this is going to work and we'll just wait for
Speaker 2: the miracle to happen. Well, she had to go on
Speaker 2: some pretty heavy chemo oral chemo drugs and these are
Speaker 2: for life, so she's got to be on these mads
Speaker 2: now the rest of her life. But it does keep
Speaker 2: the leukemia at bay, so she's totally healthy other than this.
Speaker 2: So anyways, she has a baby and they said, okay,
Speaker 2: well we'll let you go off these drugs while you
Speaker 2: because she gets married and has a baby. So she
Speaker 2: has a baby and then she goes start going for
Speaker 2: blood tests again and the doctors are like, well, we're
Speaker 2: going to let you stay off your drugs, and she's like,
Speaker 2: well why, and because apparently the cancer just isn't coming back.
Speaker 2: So it's been two and a half years now that
Speaker 2: she's been off her chemo drugs and cancer drugs and
Speaker 2: it doesn't look at this point like she's going to
Speaker 2: have to go back on them. So I'm hoping that's
Speaker 2: a really good immune system that she got from her dad.
Speaker 2: But again it's kind of an odd thing. And then
Speaker 2: the final sort of little episode that I had happened
Speaker 2: pretty recently. We got away for a vacation for a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks and we went down to Vegas, and
Speaker 2: mostop go you can't go to Vegas for a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. But the way we do it, we can
Speaker 2: because we stay in a nice quiet place and we
Speaker 2: walk every day and cook for ourselves and just enjoy the.
Speaker 5: Hot weather in the pool. So one day, this big black.
Speaker 2: Storm cloud was starting to roll in from sort of
Speaker 2: over the mountains and coming in over the Vegas buildings
Speaker 2: and I we were in the pool and I was
Speaker 2: starting to.
Speaker 5: Get ready to leave.
Speaker 2: I said to him, I said, you know, I think
Speaker 2: a good storm's coming you. We should probably go up
Speaker 2: to our room. So he was still lying there and
Speaker 2: I saw something. So I walked over sort of to
Speaker 2: the edge of the pool deck and I'm looking up
Speaker 2: at this black storm cloud and I see At first
Speaker 2: I thought it was birds, because I don't know, because
Speaker 2: it was several of them.
Speaker 5: There were three or four of these things.
Speaker 2: And then I thought, well, well, they're not birds because
Speaker 2: they're not moving like birds.
Speaker 5: They were moving in sync.
Speaker 2: They were kind of like you know how drones move
Speaker 2: in sync. But then they weren't in sync, but they
Speaker 2: were moving very smoothly and slowly. They weren't flapping or
Speaker 2: flocking or doing anything. And they were bright silver. They
Speaker 2: were so bright. And then the three moved down low,
Speaker 2: sort of closer to me, and I thought, no, those
Speaker 2: are not birds, and I'm looking that could they be drones?
Speaker 2: But it was just so random because as the clouds
Speaker 2: cleared behind, you could see there was probably another five
Speaker 2: or six in behind in the clouds, and as the
Speaker 2: clouds were moving, you could kind of see them moving
Speaker 2: in and out of the clouds. But in the meantime,
Speaker 2: one just kind of came to the forefront and just
Speaker 2: stop dead, stop dead in the middle of the sky,
Speaker 2: and it was just bright, bright, bright silver, and the
Speaker 2: rest were kind of now just poking in and out
Speaker 2: of the clouds. But yeah, it was just oddest thing.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, maybe it was drones, but in
Speaker 2: my mind it was too intentional and too non drone
Speaker 2: like to be anything else. But orbs or something something
Speaker 2: in the sky over Vegas which I've heard is quite
Speaker 2: common there. So that's kind of the end of my
Speaker 2: little stories and my secrets. And you know, I tell
Speaker 2: it now and I go, oh, it's no big deal
Speaker 2: because I know there's so much more out there now.
Speaker 2: But for our family, it was a really big, big deal,
Speaker 2: and my grandparents were really scared about losing their social status.
Speaker 2: And even for me, like I've told a few friends,
Speaker 2: not lots, I've told a few friends some of these stories,
Speaker 2: and you really get a mixed bag of reactions, like
Speaker 2: some people are very very skeptical. But it's, as my
Speaker 2: mom said, you know, once it happens to you, you know,
Speaker 2: we know what we saw.
Speaker 5: So that's kind of where I'm going to leave that Wow.
Speaker 3: Accounts there, And it is important, isn't it to talk
Speaker 3: to family members, because else we wouldn't have heard these
Speaker 3: little gems.
Speaker 5: They are little gems. They're not you know, like there's
Speaker 5: no stories.
Speaker 2: I don't think of, you know, anybody waking up inside
Speaker 2: a ship or anything really spectacular. But to me, it
Speaker 2: says that it's real and it's there, and it's I'm
Speaker 2: really happy that people are on here sharing because it
Speaker 2: gave me kind of the courage.
Speaker 5: To say, you know, it's time. It's time, because if.
Speaker 2: Every ordinary person who saw things like this would come forward,
Speaker 2: then there wouldn't be as many or as much disbelief.
Speaker 3: You are absolutely right, and we wouldn't be worried about,
Speaker 3: you know, affecting people's social status, which you know, I
Speaker 3: can totally understand that. But wow, interesting, and that's great
Speaker 3: news about your daughter as well. I hope it continues.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so far, so good.
Speaker 2: She's she was they weren't sure how long she'd lived,
Speaker 2: and that was at eleven and she's thirty, turning thirty
Speaker 2: in January, so it's all good news.
Speaker 3: Oh that's great stuff. And yeah, it does sound like
Speaker 3: she got her immune system from her father, definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you don't have to worry about insuring him if
Speaker 3: he's if he's never sick, I mean in thirty five
Speaker 3: years and he's been, what's sick once or twice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really quite disgusting.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit like that with me and my wife.
Speaker 3: She's usually the sick one and I'm just I just
Speaker 3: kind of just seem to get kind of lucky when
Speaker 3: it comes to things like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, thirty two years of luck other than an appendix,
Speaker 2: it's pretty good.
Speaker 3: That is very strange, and usually, yeah, what it does.
Speaker 3: You know, people do have problems with it, and I've
Speaker 3: known plenty of people have problems with the appendix, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it's got to come out. But if it's bors several
Speaker 3: times and then sorted itself out, that is very.
Speaker 2: Unusual within hours, within hours, like I can see even
Speaker 2: if it would take a few days.
Speaker 5: But it's bizarre.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody I know can metabolize poison in their system
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: That's something very odd.
Speaker 3: And now I'm not saying this is actually you know,
Speaker 3: this hamage your husband. But when I do have abductees
Speaker 3: contacteas that have these experiences, there is usually something different
Speaker 3: about their overall health.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, yeah, and I wonder often. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't think he's really had any experiences that he remembers
Speaker 2: since then. And as I said, we've been together.
Speaker 5: A long time.
Speaker 2: But I really do feel like something very odd happened
Speaker 2: in that family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is very strange. I mean they found him
Speaker 3: directly under the camper van, exactly where he was sleeping,
Speaker 3: but yep, below the van. Yeah, that's that's an unusual one.
Speaker 3: Because I do get a lot of people which recount
Speaker 3: their stories and they've woken up under the bed, They've
Speaker 3: woken up in the closet, woken up upside down in
Speaker 3: the bed, they've woken up with their pajam, there's a
Speaker 3: ninety on inside out. So there's all these little things,
Speaker 3: which does kind of indicate that they have been put
Speaker 3: back wrong or you know maybe ho what does he
Speaker 3: feel about it?
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because he laughs, but he believes it.
Speaker 2: I mean often his and when we've told that story
Speaker 2: to a few friends, they've laughed and stead of that
Speaker 2: explains everything.
Speaker 5: But he does believe it.
Speaker 2: I think that really did happen to him because he's
Speaker 2: heard the same story from his parents for years without
Speaker 2: any differences. So yeah, when stories don't change like that, I.
Speaker 5: Think there's a lot of truth to that.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think he thinks he was taken.
Speaker 3: Very interesting. Okay, and Mexico, do you remember exactly where
Speaker 3: that was that account happened.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was in Portavarta in the olden days, you know,
Speaker 2: the good years of the seventies, before it was all
Speaker 2: built up. It was a real beautiful, expensive, lovely resort area.
Speaker 3: It was still nice and there were several which viewed
Speaker 3: this UFO.
Speaker 2: Well, it was my grandfather and my grandmother after a
Speaker 2: night that they'd been out, and they didn't tell any
Speaker 2: of the people that they were hanging out with there
Speaker 2: because they thought that they would think they were crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing, you know, these counts which just would
Speaker 3: never have been heard before. But unless you came on
Speaker 3: and shared this.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's interesting that that generation did understand
Speaker 2: the ramifications of talking about it. So I think there's
Speaker 2: a lot of families out there that have these types
Speaker 2: of not I don't think they're big, big secrets, but
Speaker 2: they've been told not to talk about it. You know,
Speaker 2: probably if they overheard it as children, they've been told
Speaker 2: not to talk about it. But the history is there,
Speaker 2: and it's sort of like my mom going back to
Speaker 2: nineteen forty and her saying, well, we all knew that
Speaker 2: they were there, and in nineteen forty there was nothing
Speaker 2: went that fast, you know. So I think that they've
Speaker 2: just been around a really long time and that human
Speaker 2: beings has been brainwashed to not you know, not talk
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: That is true, And you know, you can go buy
Speaker 3: a lot of my guests which are in their later
Speaker 3: years now seventies and eighties, and now they're coming forward
Speaker 3: and saying, yeah, this happened to me, this happened to
Speaker 3: my family. They yeah, they wouldn't speak about it because,
Speaker 3: like you said, the round vocations of it all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's for sure, you could lose your job, what
Speaker 5: kinds of things.
Speaker 3: You know, what we do, you know this to our listeners.
Speaker 3: What we do on this show is if you've had
Speaker 3: an experience and you don't really want your peers, your
Speaker 3: work colleagues to maybe find out, then we can just
Speaker 3: use a perseudon them. You can conceal your name because
Speaker 3: it's not necessarily about getting some of the come completely
Speaker 3: forward name and everything. It's the account which is important.
Speaker 3: So you can always do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really nice that you can, because I bet
Speaker 2: that makes it more comfortable for a lot of people.
Speaker 3: We have a a lot of people in certain positions.
Speaker 3: I've even actually been contacted by an American politician that
Speaker 3: I've had has had these experiences, but they cannot come
Speaker 3: out because you know it will be it would be
Speaker 3: a serious problem for them. Yeah, exactly so, but it's
Speaker 3: important for these you know, these accounts to come out.
Speaker 3: Absolutely and more. As the weeks go by, it's more
Speaker 3: and more people which are happy to come forward like
Speaker 3: this is the time, now, this is the time. I
Speaker 3: want to get off my chest, tell someone and not
Speaker 3: keep this inside anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to say I was really nervous about
Speaker 2: doing this, and I don't know why, but it just
Speaker 2: seemed like it was a compilation of just a lot
Speaker 2: of family stuff. And it's almost like when you do
Speaker 2: ancestry and you find an odd cousin that you didn't
Speaker 2: know yet. Every family has sort of their little secret
Speaker 2: and there are things that you know, they used to
Speaker 2: call it dirty laundry, and they used to treat stuff
Speaker 2: like this as dirty laundry, and it was you didn't
Speaker 2: even really want to talk about it much within the family,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: I agree, Yeah, that a lot of these law embarrassments
Speaker 3: used to be locked in the attic and everything in there,
Speaker 3: so you'd never hear about it. But this is the
Speaker 3: good thing about talking to your family about stuff, because
Speaker 3: you don't know what you might hear.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet you, I bet you.
Speaker 2: And I think things are escalating anyways. I think that
Speaker 2: things are these things want to be seen and so therefore,
Speaker 2: you know, if I can throw a little bit into
Speaker 2: the back history, I'm happy too, and I'm happy to
Speaker 2: just have it off our family conscience and that it's
Speaker 2: out there now. And if there's other people that it's
Speaker 2: happened to, then they don't you know, they can see
Speaker 2: that it's not a scary thing to just especially with
Speaker 2: this crowd. You know, this is a very accepting place
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, listen to the show are very like
Speaker 3: minded and do have also listeners which haven't experienced and
Speaker 3: were very skeptical the subject. And I would get emails
Speaker 3: and they would say, you know, I have no interest
Speaker 3: in it subject. I do work in a science field,
Speaker 3: and I now believe after listening to these accounts that
Speaker 3: there is something of substance there and it's something which
Speaker 3: should be definitely professionally looked at and researched. So when
Speaker 3: you hear things like that, people are taking notice. And
Speaker 3: if it wasn't for shows like this, then we'd just
Speaker 3: be where we were ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, where
Speaker 3: it's all being shunned. There is progress happening every single
Speaker 3: week now, and you're right, they want to be seen.
Speaker 3: They're wanting to be seen for generations and now it's
Speaker 3: done to know. And yeah, you get really tired of
Speaker 3: getting lied to you by the governments of the world.
Speaker 3: The times are changing and the more people which come out,
Speaker 3: you know, the more information we have and the more
Speaker 3: we have to work on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and thank you so much for doing what you
Speaker 2: do because it's such an accepting, easy platform. It's easy
Speaker 2: to listen to, and it's also easy to I think
Speaker 2: it's also easy to believe because the people that you
Speaker 2: have on they're just you know, well, they're real. They're
Speaker 2: not people that are putting it on. This is real
Speaker 2: stuff and that's made real impact in their lives in
Speaker 2: one form or another.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. You said you were nervous, but
Speaker 3: I think you did just fine. I think their listeners
Speaker 3: will agree with me.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Wonderful, Lauren. I really appreciate you coming on and sharing
Speaker 3: that for our listeners.
Speaker 2: Ah, thank you very much.
Speaker 5: Thanks for giving me the opportunity.
Speaker 3: You are the more than welcome. You enjoyed the rest
Speaker 3: of your evening now and we will speak soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, bye, take care.
Speaker 1: Bye for now.
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Speaker 3: Hello Nate, welcome to the show. Hey, thanks for having me,
Speaker 3: thank you for joining us at And you're calling from
Speaker 3: a state of Oregon.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm calling from the state of Oregon. And my
Speaker 1: encounter happened in March of twenty twenty one, so a
Speaker 1: few years ago, now, no problem.
Speaker 3: You know, some of our guests we have on their
Speaker 3: encounters and experiences go back fifty odd years, so it's
Speaker 3: always better late than ever. Now, Nate, do you have
Speaker 3: an experience with your son in Nevada? Would you like
Speaker 3: to start at the beginning, please, sir, yes.
Speaker 1: So in March of twenty twenty one, this was about
Speaker 1: a year after pandemic. We were looking to take a
Speaker 1: trip after having been kind of off and inside, locked inside,
Speaker 1: on off for the previous year, to go visit some
Speaker 1: family that I have in northern Arizona, and I live
Speaker 1: in the mountains of southern Oregon, and me and my
Speaker 1: son decided we were going to take a road trip
Speaker 1: and head down there. And at the time, since it
Speaker 1: was still kind of pandemic, y rules were different. We
Speaker 1: decided we would go through Nevada, go through the mountains,
Speaker 1: go through Nevada to get to Arizona and see some
Speaker 1: ghost towns, and it seems safer to be out in
Speaker 1: some of those places because they're a lot less populated,
Speaker 1: a lot less going on. There were still places that
Speaker 1: were you know, shut down or you had to have
Speaker 1: masks and things like that. So when you decided to
Speaker 1: take this road trip. We left Oregon southern Oregon on Thursday,
Speaker 1: March twenty fifth, twenty twenty one, and we made our
Speaker 1: way down out of Oregon around Mount Shasta through this
Speaker 1: year in Nevada's around Reno, and that first day my
Speaker 1: son was eight years old at the time, so he
Speaker 1: could only get so far in the car before he
Speaker 1: was wanting to climb out of the seat, so to speak,
Speaker 1: and do something different. So we got down to that
Speaker 1: particular night to Hawthorne, Nevada, which is like a military
Speaker 1: type town in the middle of Nevada, and we got
Speaker 1: some pizza at the local pizza place and got a
Speaker 1: hotel room for the night, and everything was, you know,
Speaker 1: normal traveling at that point. We stayed the night in
Speaker 1: or on Thursday night, and like a lot of kids
Speaker 1: on a road trip, he didn't sleep very well, and
Speaker 1: by four thirty or five in the morning, he was
Speaker 1: peeking out the window of the hotel, telling me he
Speaker 1: could see daylight coming over the desert, which was true.
Speaker 1: I tried to keep him in the room as long
Speaker 1: as I could to get more sleep, but I think
Speaker 1: somewhere around five thirty or six am, I kind of
Speaker 1: gave up and thought, well, we have a lot of
Speaker 1: driving to still do to get to Arizona. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's going to take another day or two
Speaker 1: with him wanting to explore around Nevada, but let's just
Speaker 1: hit the road early. So we left the hotel in Hawthorne, Nevada.
Speaker 1: I would estimate somewhere around six thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: There was a McDonald's that was opening, and I got
Speaker 1: him some breakfast so we could eat it on the drive,
Speaker 1: and we head south. For those that are going to
Speaker 1: be looking on the map during my story, we're heading
Speaker 1: south on ninety five in the state of Nevada out
Speaker 1: of Hawthorne, Nevada, and about twenty five miles or thirty
Speaker 1: miles south of Hawthorne is a town called Money, Nevada.
Speaker 1: And I say town and quotation marks because I would
Speaker 1: guess there's only twenty five or fifty people that may
Speaker 1: ever actually inhabit the town. But as we were coming
Speaker 1: down the ninety five, my son's in the backseat of
Speaker 1: a four door car that we're driving. And when you're
Speaker 1: in that area of the desert on ninety five, you
Speaker 1: can see down the highway. This isn't starting to become
Speaker 1: broad daylight six forty five seven in the morning. You
Speaker 1: can see down the highway quite a few miles in
Speaker 1: some stretches because it's just flat desert. And as we
Speaker 1: were coming closer towards the town of Lunning, I see
Speaker 1: a lot of red and blue police lights coming north
Speaker 1: at us on the ninety five. And my instinct is
Speaker 1: a father and I also a sidebar have worked a
Speaker 1: lot of contract security as my job jobs in my life,
Speaker 1: and so I'm definitely an observe and report kind of person.
Speaker 1: So this whole story you're going to hear how I've
Speaker 1: definitely was taking notes of all these weird things were happening.
Speaker 1: But the point is, I see a lot of police
Speaker 1: cars coming up the highway towards me and my son,
Speaker 1: who are traveling in a car. My son's eight years old.
Speaker 1: I didn't want him to be in the middle of
Speaker 1: a police pursuit or some kind of emergency situation on
Speaker 1: the highway. And as I'm coming into Luney and I
Speaker 1: see a sign that says State Route three sixty one
Speaker 1: GABS Nevada. It's coming to my left, which would be
Speaker 1: eastbound into the deserts of Nevada. And it's like a
Speaker 1: dirt It's not even it's a state route. It's not
Speaker 1: even a real highway. It's like a gravel road, if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, or a dirt road. So I see that,
Speaker 1: and it kind of had some wide side areas to
Speaker 1: the side of the road that were in the desert,
Speaker 1: just like loose dirt that you could get out of
Speaker 1: the way. So I pulled my car off on that
Speaker 1: three sixty one state route to get off the ninety
Speaker 1: five highway where there's a lot of police officers coming
Speaker 1: north up the highway. And I'm parked in my car
Speaker 1: facing the desert and going towards the east and the
Speaker 1: highways behind me, so I'm kind of looking in my
Speaker 1: rearvier mirror. My son's in the back seat, and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: you're going to see a lot of police officers going
Speaker 1: past us on the highwayway behind you, And my son says, yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's trying to turn around. Now another sidebar. My
Speaker 1: father is a retired police officer, so my son's very
Speaker 1: big on police officers and military and things like that.
Speaker 1: So he's looking out the back of the car to
Speaker 1: see the police officers and he then says, the police
Speaker 1: officers coming for you, dad. And I look in my
Speaker 1: mirrors and see that the Nevada State trooper or Nanava
Speaker 1: State Police was pulling up to the side of my
Speaker 1: car with his lights on. And I could see behind
Speaker 1: me in the highway that they were doing this to
Speaker 1: every car on the road. They were surrounding the cars
Speaker 1: and the trucks. There was only a few of us.
Speaker 1: It was barely seven am, but it was broad daylight.
Speaker 1: They were surrounding the vehicles at this intersection and kind
Speaker 1: of coordinating us off from each other and the roadway.
Speaker 1: And I rolled down my window and he's staring at
Speaker 1: me his police office. He looks very angry. He had
Speaker 1: mirrored sunglasses, and he says, you can't be there. You
Speaker 1: need to move your car right now. And I said, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. My son's in the backseat the car. I
Speaker 1: saw police coming. I didn't wanted to get out of
Speaker 1: the way of the emergency and he goes, that's where
Speaker 1: they're taking it. You can't be there. Move your bleeping
Speaker 1: car right now, and don't do anything stupid. And I said, okay, sir,
Speaker 1: And he said, go over there. He points across the
Speaker 1: three sixty one State Route road to another dirt area
Speaker 1: off the side of the road, opposite of where I'm parked,
Speaker 1: and I said okay. And so I made the U
Speaker 1: turn and turned where he told me to, and he
Speaker 1: immediately turned his car over that way and parked his
Speaker 1: car like as close to my door as possible. He's
Speaker 1: staring at me with his sunglasses through the window. And
Speaker 1: right then I see other police officers pulling their vehicles
Speaker 1: to the front and back of my car, essentially surrounding
Speaker 1: me to wear only one side of my vehicle, the
Speaker 1: passenger side towards the desert, was like open and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to understand what's happening to me, because I could
Speaker 1: see police doing this all around the intersection. That particularly,
Speaker 1: there was a big rid across the highway, someone who
Speaker 1: I'd really like to speak to one day, who was
Speaker 1: a big rig truck driver, and he was pushed off
Speaker 1: the side of the ninety five. They were doing it
Speaker 1: to him too, and my son then says, hey, Dad,
Speaker 1: look at there's army guys. And I look over and
Speaker 1: I can see between these police cars kind of coming
Speaker 1: onto the three sixty one from the ninety five. And
Speaker 1: we're not talking like five cars, I'm talking like fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five police cars. It was a lot of
Speaker 1: police cars. Some were marked, some were not marked, but
Speaker 1: they were definitely having the lights and all the stuff.
Speaker 1: And there was Nevada State troopers definitely on the scene,
Speaker 1: and in front of them or behind them, they were
Speaker 1: like escorting this army truck was coming around the corner.
Speaker 1: And on the army truck was this was like a
Speaker 1: standard military truck, a transport of some type. There was
Speaker 1: guys with cameo gear and had stuff on their heads
Speaker 1: with machine guns pointed at us stepping standing in the
Speaker 1: bed of this army truck. And then that's when my
Speaker 1: son said, Dad, they have a spaceship. And I looked
Speaker 1: up and I'm trying to look between the police cars
Speaker 1: who were surrounding my car, and they're all staring at me,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to look between their cars, and I
Speaker 1: can see that. There's a guy in a white Diesel
Speaker 1: truck and he had like a tan shirt like a
Speaker 1: it looked like a military type shirt, but it was
Speaker 1: tan in color, and he had a hat on, and
Speaker 1: he looked like he was very nervous as he was
Speaker 1: trying to turn the truck. And what was on the
Speaker 1: bed of the truck was a UFO. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the only way to describe it. There's no other word
Speaker 1: that fits. I tried to look into this now for
Speaker 1: a long time. That's the only thing that describes it.
Speaker 1: Was a UFO. They had it. The first off. The
Speaker 1: driver in the truck seemed very nervous because the wing
Speaker 1: span of the UFO was coming off the flatbed truck
Speaker 1: that he was pulling it on, and they were trying
Speaker 1: to push all of us off the road with the
Speaker 1: police officers because the wingspan would have clipped our vehicles,
Speaker 1: the road signs, other you know, they had to essentially
Speaker 1: close both lanes of that highway to get it to
Speaker 1: where it was going. I made the unfortunate decision to
Speaker 1: park on the three point sixty one, which is where
Speaker 1: they were taking it off of the main highway to
Speaker 1: this dirt road and the truck driver was clearly looking
Speaker 1: at me and the police officers around my car because
Speaker 1: he now had to navigate it around us. And I
Speaker 1: was trying to remain calm because my son's in the
Speaker 1: backseat of the car. But I have police staring at me,
Speaker 1: I have military guys and an army truck to my left.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of up above me on this big truck
Speaker 1: with their machine guns, and there's this guy trying to
Speaker 1: pull the truck around the turn off the ninety five
Speaker 1: to the three sixty road and not clearly this was
Speaker 1: not his normal duty it was to move something like this.
Speaker 1: He seemed like he was stressing to do this and
Speaker 1: was going really slow, and but by going slow, he
Speaker 1: was giving me the opportunity to see what was on
Speaker 1: the truck as it went past it very slowly, and
Speaker 1: it was a standard First off, he looked like he
Speaker 1: could have been a military guy, but the military guys
Speaker 1: in front and the army truck thing in front of
Speaker 1: him with the transport were definitely the ones, like, you know,
Speaker 1: securing whatever was going on here, and there was one
Speaker 1: of those behind them as well, if I recall, with
Speaker 1: more police officers behind them, and as it came by
Speaker 1: my car. I did have the brief notion to grab
Speaker 1: my cell phone, but I could see that there's three
Speaker 1: police officers staring at me in sunglasses from their police cars,
Speaker 1: watching me surrounding my car. I want to have my
Speaker 1: son be taken into custody by these men, and so
Speaker 1: I just made the decision to leave the phone out
Speaker 1: of the picture and not try to pick up to
Speaker 1: take video or pictures like someone would want to, because
Speaker 1: I would I feel like I would have been arrested
Speaker 1: or taken into custody, and so I just try to
Speaker 1: watch what was going past me. But as it went
Speaker 1: past me, on the flatbed of the truck was a
Speaker 1: triangular UFO. The wingspan. Probably I'm a pretty tall person.
Speaker 1: I'm on six feet four inches tall, so I would
Speaker 1: say it was coming off the sides of the flatbed
Speaker 1: somewhere a range of ten to fifteen feet on each
Speaker 1: side of the triangle. So I'm just trying to do
Speaker 1: the numbers nowadays, but I'm going to guess that from
Speaker 1: tip to tip of the triangle was like thirty to
Speaker 1: forty feet long on one edge. And then my son said, Dad,
Speaker 1: the middle of it looks it's like two cereal bowls.
Speaker 1: You can't fit in there, but I could climb in
Speaker 1: there and fly it. I could fly that spaceship. And
Speaker 1: I was looking at it, and that's when I realized, like,
Speaker 1: this doesn't even if it's a drone, why is there
Speaker 1: a hole or an area for someone something to be inside,
Speaker 1: like a command capsule or whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: in the middle of this triangle. They had it covered
Speaker 1: in tarp, but it was wrapped very tightly like a present,
Speaker 1: so you could see the shape of it clearly triangular
Speaker 1: all the way around, with a two cereal bowls, one
Speaker 1: on top of the other in the middle. The weird
Speaker 1: thing also I felt, was I think what my son
Speaker 1: was referring to was it was not very tall off
Speaker 1: the bed of the truck. It was more wide, and
Speaker 1: so someone of my size, being six foot four, is
Speaker 1: not going to be able to climb into it. You're
Speaker 1: going to need a kid or or a horse jockey
Speaker 1: sized person something to go in there. And this is
Speaker 1: not clearly being protected. I mean, if it was a drone,
Speaker 1: why would they need all these guys. I was trying
Speaker 1: to analyze. But I'm trying to tell my son that
Speaker 1: must be a UFO. I'm trying to remain calm. My
Speaker 1: heart was beating out of my chest. I'm telling them
Speaker 1: that must be what people see in the sky as
Speaker 1: the UFO. But clearly our government has it. Clearly our
Speaker 1: government this is their craft of some sort. And he
Speaker 1: kept saying, yeah, that would be a cool thing to
Speaker 1: go fly in space. And that's when it kind of
Speaker 1: dawned on me, like this is if this is a drone,
Speaker 1: this is the biggest drone ever. Who's operating this? And
Speaker 1: then I'm thinking where would they fly this? Why would
Speaker 1: they out here in the desert taking it down the highway?
Speaker 1: And they kind of got past my car and we're
Speaker 1: going slowly, and then the next military truck of guys
Speaker 1: with machine guns were behind them, kind of like falling
Speaker 1: in behind. And then the police officers as they got
Speaker 1: farther down the three sixty one State Route in Nevada,
Speaker 1: going eastbound towards Gabs, Nevado, which was also a slight
Speaker 1: ghost town. They were taking it real slow down that
Speaker 1: dirt road. The cops kind of started letting people on
Speaker 1: the main highway go the trucker and stuff and kind
Speaker 1: of falling in behind the military dudes going down this road,
Speaker 1: and I was so nervous. I didn't know where to
Speaker 1: go or what to do. I was trying to analyze,
Speaker 1: like what am I seeing? And the first two police
Speaker 1: officers around our car drove off behind the motorcade, but
Speaker 1: one last one that was like in front of me,
Speaker 1: backed up and he pulled his car next to the
Speaker 1: back area of my car and he kind of gave
Speaker 1: my son the thumbs up, kind of like a smile
Speaker 1: at him, like like you saw it, you know, and
Speaker 1: then he was like the last guy to go off
Speaker 1: behind the motorcade and they continued eastbound on the three
Speaker 1: P sixty one, heading towards Gabs, Nevada, which is in
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. So I didn't at that point,
Speaker 1: it was kind of like released to go. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what to do. So I just got in my
Speaker 1: car and started driving back to the ninety five, which
Speaker 1: I was just a little ways off of it. And
Speaker 1: then I didn't my my initial reaction because I was
Speaker 1: so nervous. I was so my heart was racing. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe what we had just saw. I kept trying
Speaker 1: to tell my son that, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: cool thing. That he saw and then this is you know.
Speaker 1: But I was also, as a dad, very nervous because
Speaker 1: I know that those police officers got my license plate
Speaker 1: and they saw my vehicle and my organ license plate.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure I was I've been they know who
Speaker 1: I am. Let's just say and so. And then at
Speaker 1: that point got us on the ninety five and started
Speaker 1: to continue on our journey, and I'm thinking, like, who
Speaker 1: do you? Who do you even call to report this too?
Speaker 1: I can't. I've called the police and told them that
Speaker 1: their own police are doing this, and they're the military
Speaker 1: guys in the desert of Nevada are doing what I
Speaker 1: guess we've all heard they've been doing. I And up
Speaker 1: until this point in my life, I had always, you know,
Speaker 1: been curious about these things. I feel seen shows and
Speaker 1: radio shows, but I was not like a firm believer
Speaker 1: any which way or the other. I always assumed that
Speaker 1: maybe the government had our own things. And definitely, after
Speaker 1: Anna all this waybe what I could have saw was
Speaker 1: not necessarily extraterrestrial, let's say, is in off of this planet,
Speaker 1: but this was definitely something that they were flying and
Speaker 1: taking care of in a way that this is like
Speaker 1: their most secretive craft, if that's their own craft. But
Speaker 1: what happened that kind of gave me some more details
Speaker 1: that I think people would want to know about this
Speaker 1: story is that we then went on the ninety five
Speaker 1: and as you come into Lunning, Nevada, there's what they
Speaker 1: could call our rest stop quote unquote, but it's like
Speaker 1: a little dirt gravel parking lot on the side of
Speaker 1: the ninety five highway and there's like a little two
Speaker 1: a little brick building, two bathrooms men and women's restroom
Speaker 1: there and I thought, well, we'll park there, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people not i'll say a lot, but
Speaker 1: say twenty five people in total, a dozen cars that
Speaker 1: were on the road that day with us that saw this.
Speaker 1: Then they were pulling in there as well, and I
Speaker 1: think we were all kind of in a state of shock,
Speaker 1: and people were going, did you see it? Did you
Speaker 1: just see what we just saw? Is that really what
Speaker 1: we just saw? One guy's all that was UFO, I'm
Speaker 1: calling my brother, And there's like people like kind of
Speaker 1: freaking out besides us, and there was kind of like
Speaker 1: a lot of them trying to use the restroom at once.
Speaker 1: So there was a little bit of a line and
Speaker 1: my son was going to use the restroom. Then I
Speaker 1: saw this maroon Ford pickup truck pull a nice big
Speaker 1: Diesel type truck and this older, Hispanic couple got out,
Speaker 1: and the woman seemed to be going to use the restroom,
Speaker 1: and I mean, I guess it was her husband was driving,
Speaker 1: and he had like a like a navy hat uss
Speaker 1: whatever navy hat on his head. And he says to
Speaker 1: me and my son, he said, well, you saw it?
Speaker 1: Did you see it? And I said said, yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw the spaceship. And he said you did. You saw
Speaker 1: a spaceship today? And I said what, And I said,
Speaker 1: are you serious? That's really what that was. And he says, well,
Speaker 1: I used to be in the Navy, and I worked
Speaker 1: for the Department of Defense for a number of years
Speaker 1: and I'm now a retired former contractor on the test site.
Speaker 1: And I said, where's the test site? Because again I
Speaker 1: knew that there was stuff down there, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know relation to where we are in Lay, Nevada. And
Speaker 1: he says, well, I live in outside Beaty now, He's all,
Speaker 1: but I've been retired for a few years, He's all.
Speaker 1: They have them down there in the test site and
Speaker 1: I said okay, and he goes, well, they've been trying
Speaker 1: to move them. The scuttle butt in Beaty at the
Speaker 1: restaurants is that they've been moving them like once a
Speaker 1: week or once every other week, and they're moving them north.
Speaker 1: And I said, well, where are they going out there?
Speaker 1: And he said, they have a new facility. He said
Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty miles outside of Gabs. Now I'm
Speaker 1: pret I thought he said southeast of Gabs, but he
Speaker 1: may have said southwest to Gabs, because later research via
Speaker 1: the Internet, which we'll talk about in the second kind
Speaker 1: of backs up that story. But he said that these
Speaker 1: exact words were there's too many lookielus and tourists coming
Speaker 1: out of Las Vegas to the test site, so they
Speaker 1: can't test them there anymore. So they're moving them north
Speaker 1: to other areas of the desert where there's less people.
Speaker 1: And obviously, if you look on a map at Gabs, Nevada,
Speaker 1: there's nothing out there. It's a dirt road. I'm sure
Speaker 1: sections you might even need four by four capabilities, and
Speaker 1: gas stations are probably hard to come by. So that
Speaker 1: kind of shocked me. And he said that his wife
Speaker 1: had seen the military moving another one of them a
Speaker 1: week or two before, while she was having breakfast or
Speaker 1: gain ready to have breakfast at one of the restaurants
Speaker 1: that was just opening in bay Nevada. Now, if you
Speaker 1: go to the Baya Vada, there's only like two restaurants,
Speaker 1: like the Dennis and like another private breakfast type place
Speaker 1: that this could have happened. But both of them sit
Speaker 1: on the highway that you'd have to take ninety five
Speaker 1: north if you're going to come out of anywhere down
Speaker 1: there and go north to where they were going where
Speaker 1: I saw them now later, so I talked to him
Speaker 1: for a few minutes, thanked him, you know, he was
Speaker 1: kind of talking to Mike. He was more of just
Speaker 1: having fun with my kid and what my kids being
Speaker 1: so excited about it. We use the restroom. A lot
Speaker 1: of people were still freaking out about it. But I
Speaker 1: had to kind of continue on the road. I had
Speaker 1: to go to Arizona, and we took off from there
Speaker 1: and kind of did the whole ninety five all the
Speaker 1: way down to Las Vegas, and it kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: since that time, it has obviously changed my life quite
Speaker 1: a bit because I now realized that I don't need
Speaker 1: anyone or a documentary or what's coming out now in
Speaker 1: the news to tell me that it's real. This is real.
Speaker 1: With the question is what I saw is is it
Speaker 1: their test vehicle that they made to go somewhere, Because
Speaker 1: they're not flying this from New York to London there,
Speaker 1: this is obviously something built to go off planet or
Speaker 1: highly undercover or wherever. You know, I don't even know
Speaker 1: where you're trying to apply this too. That's one question.
Speaker 1: If if it's a drone, then why would they needing
Speaker 1: all these guys with guns to protect it? Why would
Speaker 1: they transport it that way? Another thing that I took
Speaker 1: notice of when they were this was literally wrapped under tarps,
Speaker 1: put on straps like any big, big truck would have.
Speaker 1: And part of the reason why the guy driving had
Speaker 1: to be so nervous is because when it came past us,
Speaker 1: it was kind of rolling on the bottom of the
Speaker 1: cereal bowl in the center of this craft, and it
Speaker 1: clearly they didn't have like support or something to keep
Speaker 1: it mounted to this trailer. This almost seemed like either
Speaker 1: they were moving it and don't usually move it and
Speaker 1: didn't know how to move it properly, or they had
Speaker 1: been test playing it somewhere and it went down in
Speaker 1: the desert and they're trying to bring it back. And
Speaker 1: this isn't how they probably normally planned to do that,
Speaker 1: but this is how they're happy to do it. And
Speaker 1: you know, all that doesn't lead to a drone. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, the cockpit of the triangle would not fit
Speaker 1: a normal guy. It would have to be someone very small.
Speaker 1: You'd have to probably lay them down inside there or something,
Speaker 1: or sit in there if they're really small, in a
Speaker 1: small chair. I don't know. I couldn't see the inside.
Speaker 1: I just saw the shape of it from the tarps
Speaker 1: wrapped on the outside. But I try to look over
Speaker 1: every drone photo, every photo of craft known at least
Speaker 1: the ones that they will let be on the internet
Speaker 1: of military stuff, and nothing fits what we saw that day,
Speaker 1: the way that they were transporting it, the way he
Speaker 1: was saying from the area. If they were coming out
Speaker 1: of Baty to transport it from down there, that's closer
Speaker 1: to what people would call, you know, quote unquote Area
Speaker 1: fifty one. To get where we are is a couple
Speaker 1: hours north. They would probably have to have left down
Speaker 1: there at four in the morning to get to where
Speaker 1: we are at seven in the morning when we intercept them,
Speaker 1: then they're going out the through sixty one. But part
Speaker 1: of what did lead in my internet research I think
Speaker 1: I sent to you, Nick, was that there was My
Speaker 1: internet research says that the Fallen Naval Air Station was
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen requesting hundreds of thousands of acres of
Speaker 1: public land to be taken into their base, basically to
Speaker 1: expand their warfare operations and train operations for aircraft. And
Speaker 1: if you look at the map and go twenty five
Speaker 1: miles or so southwest or west of GABS, that would
Speaker 1: be where there would be. But this guy is saying
Speaker 1: they were building the new facilities to store the craft
Speaker 1: that I saw going down the road that day. So
Speaker 1: that's basically my story. I've not really had any other
Speaker 1: contrary to popular belief, I haven't had any men in
Speaker 1: black or any negative experience with the government. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like they're following me in anyway, and I just
Speaker 1: haven't had any opportunity to tell my story. I think
Speaker 1: the difference in my story to other people's story is
Speaker 1: that mine was in broad daylight. Mine was two or
Speaker 1: less car lengths from me. Mine was wrapped in a tarp,
Speaker 1: so yes, I couldn't see what color the metal was,
Speaker 1: but it was a hard shaped, large craft and there's
Speaker 1: no like the only I didn't see it in the
Speaker 1: sky a light at night or something like a lot
Speaker 1: of people seen. I was in broad daylight. It was
Speaker 1: seven am. They were they had sunglasses. We're in the desert.
Speaker 1: It's they were guarding it at the end of machine guns.
Speaker 1: So clearly that's very valued thing for them. I think
Speaker 1: that they were just at the end of their trip
Speaker 1: and we were kind of the seven am traffic that
Speaker 1: they were not expecting to have maybe that many cars
Speaker 1: at that intersection at that time. And I particularly went
Speaker 1: on the wrong road. I got in the right and
Speaker 1: their travel paths. So they were not happy about that.
Speaker 1: But it did make me far more patriotic, I got
Speaker 1: to say, as an American, because now I realized, they're
Speaker 1: not wasting all my tax dollars. They're clearly out there
Speaker 1: doing something, planning for something big, or using these in
Speaker 1: some capacity or trying to and where they plan on
Speaker 1: going and what they plan on doing is far bigger
Speaker 1: and more important than the things that were being led
Speaker 1: on a day to day life. That they're not messing around,
Speaker 1: and there's probably you know, four or five star general
Speaker 1: somewhere in those facilities in Nevada, and they have these things,
Speaker 1: whether they got them from true extraterrestrial craft or whether
Speaker 1: they're you know, archaeological digs and they're finding them or whatever.
Speaker 1: This thing, to me did not seem damaged in any
Speaker 1: way from what I could see of the way it
Speaker 1: was wrapped in the tarf this was an intact thing.
Speaker 1: But if this was flying above you, this would be
Speaker 1: the most superior aircraft that anyone human could ever have.
Speaker 1: It would probably be a heck of a tool to
Speaker 1: have in warfare because it would psychologically affect your opponent.
Speaker 1: I don't know, though that the way they were transporting
Speaker 1: it and the way they were acting, I don't know
Speaker 1: that they know how to operate it. That's kind of
Speaker 1: what made me wonder more if it was not really ours,
Speaker 1: or maybe it's a copy of something they have and
Speaker 1: they're trying to make copies of that and learn how
Speaker 1: to use them. So but that's my story, and I'll
Speaker 1: talk to them or you or anyone else that wants
Speaker 1: to hear it. There's no like if answer, But I
Speaker 1: don't need to believe anymore. It's real. I saw it,
Speaker 1: and the way that they're protecting it and the way
Speaker 1: they're acting about it, they would have probably shot me
Speaker 1: or anyone of that intersection that day that tried to
Speaker 1: get out of our vehicles to touch it. And the
Speaker 1: cops were there to watch every single one of us
Speaker 1: in case we took pictures or video, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: if we did, our phones and us would have been
Speaker 1: arrested and taken somewhere in some military base. So I
Speaker 1: don't know that they would do all that for a drone.
Speaker 3: Interesting stuff, Nate, that must have been quite an experience
Speaker 3: for you and your son.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he thought it was cool. He'll just tell everyone
Speaker 1: it was the coolest thing he ever saw, and he
Speaker 1: wants to learn how to fly one. You know, he
Speaker 1: was only eight years old and he's ten, going to
Speaker 1: be eleven. Now. We are going to go make the
Speaker 1: same journey again. We've done this trip a few times.
Speaker 1: That was just the only time we saw that, But
Speaker 1: we are going to be going back sometime this March
Speaker 1: for his birthday again and going down through there, and
Speaker 1: we'll probably stop at the intersection and kind of try
Speaker 1: to re examine what it was we saw where we were,
Speaker 1: we saw it.
Speaker 3: Well, when you head down there this time, obviously, you know,
Speaker 3: we don't blame you for not being able to get
Speaker 3: any pictures off because no fairness, you know, they were
Speaker 3: keeping their.
Speaker 1: Eye on you and you days wouldn't that you do it.
Speaker 3: But when you go down there this time, you know,
Speaker 3: if you take some get a few pictures of the
Speaker 3: area and we put them on the website, and I
Speaker 3: guarantee it. You know, as we are speaking there at
Speaker 3: people which are going to be on Google ef gabs
Speaker 3: and what's around gabs and if they were taking up
Speaker 3: that way, And there has been a lot of talk
Speaker 3: over the last few years, a lot of a lot
Speaker 3: of hardware and stuff has been coming out of test sites,
Speaker 3: which is only two three hours you know, to rache
Speaker 3: all that that kind of direction, because the whole area
Speaker 3: is so famous now that's where everyone goes. Everyone goes
Speaker 3: to Las Vegas. And they then had the desert try
Speaker 3: and get closer to this area fifty one and groom
Speaker 3: late to see all the lights. It would make sense
Speaker 3: that they're moving all this stuff out to quiet location.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I didn't, you know, again, and I didn't
Speaker 1: really thought of any of that. I was just kind
Speaker 1: of in the wrong place or at right time, right place,
Speaker 1: wrong time, which every way you want to view it.
Speaker 1: But definitely looking back and doing the internet research and
Speaker 1: seeing how they were petitioning, and they've added to have
Speaker 1: all that land grab and to build more nable you know,
Speaker 1: airspace and a lot. And again, if you go to
Speaker 1: that area of Nevada, it's way more remote than even
Speaker 1: the areas outside Beati and now between Bady and Rachel
Speaker 1: are on each side of where the traditional test sites
Speaker 1: would be on the map. Gabs is far more remote
Speaker 1: and far more less eyes to see what's going on.
Speaker 1: There is a few people that I believe live in Gabs,
Speaker 1: but if they would even and they would have to
Speaker 1: have seen it because the road goes right through Gabs,
Speaker 1: is my understanding. So I did try to ask people
Speaker 1: in Tonopah and other places down the highway Goldfield or
Speaker 1: if they saw anything, but it was so early in
Speaker 1: the morning and some of those places they weren't awake.
Speaker 1: And the one girl in Tonapa said that everyone's husband
Speaker 1: works for the military, So even if we saw something,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't tell you guys what we see anyways, because
Speaker 1: that's how we get our paychecks. So that was the
Speaker 1: kind of her answer to it. But yeah, I'm going
Speaker 1: to definitely go back and take some video for YouTube
Speaker 1: and some pictures of the intersection and where we were
Speaker 1: at when this happened, and showed the rest stop, the
Speaker 1: different places we were happened. I haven't had any you know,
Speaker 1: time or as a father to you know, go I
Speaker 1: don't to feel safe. Basically, That's what it boiled down
Speaker 1: to is I probably would have risked taking a picture
Speaker 1: or a video if I was alone in the car
Speaker 1: and they could have rested me, and I would have
Speaker 1: dealt with what I dealt with. But it's still probably
Speaker 1: what it took me in my phone away. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it would have ever came to be seen
Speaker 1: by the public, but I had my kid in the backseat,
Speaker 1: and that changed everything and made me feel like, well,
Speaker 1: I really don't want him to be penned up in
Speaker 1: some military place while dad's being interrogated or whatever is happening.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're clearly not not playing around about what
Speaker 1: they were doing that day in the desert. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm definitely looking at a map that would we
Speaker 1: were north of Tona, PA. They would have. This is
Speaker 1: an area that's even more with hop Or and being
Speaker 1: up there too. There's a lot of military army stuff
Speaker 1: going on up there, so I would imagine all their
Speaker 1: resources between that naval fall and air station or where
Speaker 1: that place is called. They have a lot of facilities
Speaker 1: up there access so that probably less people to view
Speaker 1: it and harder for people to get to go see it.
Speaker 1: But I think my main point is is if everyone's
Speaker 1: going to go out there and look around, really we
Speaker 1: need to be turned our attention to where did they
Speaker 1: move these things like you're saying, and they clearly had
Speaker 1: moved up north in the different bases in Nevada or
Speaker 1: you know, who knows where else they would take them.
Speaker 3: I mean, we do have a lot of listeners out
Speaker 3: in Nevada. You are getting your paycheck from the government.
Speaker 3: You know you're going to say too much. But if
Speaker 3: there is anyone out there in learning or even gamps,
Speaker 3: if you've seen anything out that way, just like Nate has,
Speaker 3: you know, get in contact. But if you know any
Speaker 3: a bit of hearsay or a bit of gossip, then
Speaker 3: you know, feel free to let us know.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was hoping your podcasts and other
Speaker 1: by being interviewed or putting it out there. I was
Speaker 1: hoping to other people there was. There was definitely the
Speaker 1: truck driver I saw him, and the guy I talked
Speaker 1: to at the rest stop, and some other people that
Speaker 1: said they were from Oregon and they were going down
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas. And these people saw it, and some
Speaker 1: of them didn't work for the government or don't have
Speaker 1: that looming over them, and I'm hoping that some of
Speaker 1: them will come.
Speaker 6: Forward and say I was on the highway that day,
Speaker 6: and just judging from the people I was talking to
Speaker 6: at the rest of it seemed like it had gone
Speaker 6: through ton of pob Mina or Mina Lunning.
Speaker 1: To us now whether it came out all the way
Speaker 1: down by a Baby where the other guy was saying
Speaker 1: that they would start the journey from, or whether it
Speaker 1: would come out someone else. A guy in Goldfield said
Speaker 1: that they would just take it out at the top
Speaker 1: of the Tona Pod test range over here south of
Speaker 1: the Tonapaw would not even go all that way, So
Speaker 1: I don't really know that part of the journey, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was hoping for, is that someone else
Speaker 1: would come forward and say it was definitely March twenty six,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, at zero seven hundred hours at that intersection,
Speaker 1: so somewhere in the hours before that it was going
Speaker 1: up and down the ninety five. That's sair.
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. I mean, even if you've seen something
Speaker 3: out there and you don't want to come on a show,
Speaker 3: very fortunate to get you know, emails and messages from
Speaker 3: people that want to stay anonymous, but they just give us,
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit of information. They saw this.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't really want to get involved the show,
Speaker 3: but he's want to let now.
Speaker 1: Norways do that totally. I appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 3: That's a cool story man. You mean, you've seen a
Speaker 3: bit of hardware. We know the government they have all
Speaker 3: this this high tex stealthy aircraft and drones and all
Speaker 3: manner of stuff that we don't always hear about. Have
Speaker 3: you tried maybe seeing if there's anything that seems familiar
Speaker 3: along the stealth aircraft lines.
Speaker 1: I did look at the photos that I could find
Speaker 1: online of the stealth craft, and either everything I saw
Speaker 1: the problems were that they were either too large, much
Speaker 1: bigger than this were, or somewhere were like more drones,
Speaker 1: and the drones did not look as big as this
Speaker 1: one did. And the main difference I could tell now
Speaker 1: it was wrapped in the tart and it was kind
Speaker 1: of hard to say for sure, but the again, the
Speaker 1: cockpit wasn't like cylindrical like even some of the stealth
Speaker 1: aircraft have a still like a cylindrical type of cockpit
Speaker 1: that a guy has seen. And this was definitely two,
Speaker 1: like my son said, two cereal bowls, one on top
Speaker 1: of the other, short ones wide in the middle as
Speaker 1: the cockpit, and I haven't seen anything like that with
Speaker 1: a perfect triangle. The two wings were coming off the
Speaker 1: side like towards my vehicle at one towards the other
Speaker 1: side of the road, and then they had the back
Speaker 1: of the trigle kind of going towards the back of
Speaker 1: the flatbed of the truck hanging off the backside. And
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything that looks that perfect of a triangle.
Speaker 1: This was a triangle like no no bends to it,
Speaker 1: no curvature, and I haven't seen that. If anyone could
Speaker 1: present photos to me or you, I would greatly appreciate,
Speaker 1: because I've been digging around for hours looking and looking,
Speaker 1: and I don't see anything that has that thin shape
Speaker 1: or dimensions.
Speaker 3: It's not every day that you get someone get in
Speaker 3: contact of you that they've seen a nice bit of hardware.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I said, I've also been trying to
Speaker 1: find other people that had more of a broad daylight siding,
Speaker 1: and the only one, like googling it, that seemed similar
Speaker 1: was like the Lonnies the moor thing in New Mexico,
Speaker 1: but he had like an egg shaped craft and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff back in the fifties or sixties
Speaker 1: wherever that was. I saw. But he was daytime, but
Speaker 1: a lot of the other ones are at night time
Speaker 1: or you're seeing something in the sky far off. And
Speaker 1: this was like like if I could a guy out
Speaker 1: of a car climbed over the police car, I could
Speaker 1: have grabbed the tip of the wing and said what
Speaker 1: is this about? But they were clearly not going to
Speaker 1: have that, and if I did, I probably would have
Speaker 1: been shot for resting.
Speaker 3: So did have a guest on a while ago, and
Speaker 3: he was on a road trip as well, and he
Speaker 3: was down towards Tona, Pa that kind of way, and
Speaker 3: then moving on down towards Rachel and they had a
Speaker 3: lot of sightings of weird lights down that way.
Speaker 1: Yes, I did I listen. I listened to that episode
Speaker 1: that you had, because I did try to search around,
Speaker 1: particularly because of where I was. I'd try to search
Speaker 1: out stories that are happening in Nevada in the desert
Speaker 1: where I was at, rather than off in other places
Speaker 1: and stuff. And I did listen to that one. He
Speaker 1: was just on the opposite side of He would have
Speaker 1: been on like on the east side of those test
Speaker 1: sites that where we were on the north west corner
Speaker 1: of all of that stuff. And I don't one thing
Speaker 1: that was mentioned to me. I should say I did
Speaker 1: stop on the travels, because again this is something we
Speaker 1: try to do once a year or every other year
Speaker 1: at least. And on one of our travels, we were
Speaker 1: in the gold Field area and a guy in an
Speaker 1: army jacket had a conversation with me about it. I
Speaker 1: just asked him, I've ever seen anything weird flying out here,
Speaker 1: and he basically told me on Wednesday and Thursday nights,
Speaker 1: they fly something out of the tone of pod test
Speaker 1: strange that doesn't know how to fly very well, and
Speaker 1: they have a hard time keeping it in the Air's all,
Speaker 1: but most of us luck locals will just sit on
Speaker 1: our deck and watch it. It's about two or three
Speaker 1: the morning. You got to be out here in the
Speaker 1: middle of night to see it. And so you know,
Speaker 1: that kind of did fit in with later I thought, well,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it Friday morning. They're taking it back. So
Speaker 1: if they were out test, flying out of the tone
Speaker 1: of pot test site on a Thursday night and they
Speaker 1: got it out in the desert and then could have
Speaker 1: get it back, they might have to send these guys
Speaker 1: out there to get it and bring it back. But
Speaker 1: either way, they were going back to some place near
Speaker 1: Gabavada in that area, not back down south, so where
Speaker 1: they cleaned just.
Speaker 3: North of Gabs. There is Gabs Airport, but that's other
Speaker 3: than the little town is not not really too much
Speaker 3: out there, is there.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: I think even the population of Gabs is like the
Speaker 1: same thing, like running twenty five or fifty people. Maybe
Speaker 1: some seasonable cabins and trailers and places there might be.
Speaker 1: You know, i'd be twenty or twenty five permanent residents.
Speaker 1: That's probably a journey I'm going to make at some
Speaker 1: point in time just to go say hey, I was
Speaker 1: out there, you guys are here. That it would have
Speaker 1: came through here at seven thirty eight o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: Did you see it? You know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they would speak about it. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: they that area rely upon the military for their employment,
Speaker 1: but I know there's a lot of mining in that area.
Speaker 3: So I mean, now Hallform Way, I mean that's I
Speaker 3: think that's US military. And then there's a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff out there surrounding Hawthorn there's military based. But I
Speaker 3: bet you gabs bet they have a few stories. It's
Speaker 3: just a shame they won't tell them sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's exactly what I was just kind of
Speaker 1: hoping that maybe a few more people who either on
Speaker 1: the road day and don't live there, so not in fear,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not really in fear. I mean, the police
Speaker 1: clearly had my license plate and saw who I was,
Speaker 1: and the guy was yelling at me, so I mean
Speaker 1: they want to come to my door and doctor me
Speaker 1: or whatever. They weren't even trying to necessarily hide what
Speaker 1: they were doing that day. But one thing the guy
Speaker 1: I think the rest stops said that was true. He said, well,
Speaker 1: what do you think fifty or one hundred people on
Speaker 1: the highway saw it today. Out of millions and billions
Speaker 1: of people on earth, is anyone going to believe us?
Speaker 1: And that's just how I feel. They don't. That's why
Speaker 1: they were doing it at that. They don't really Unless
Speaker 1: you're going to sit out there like every day, every moment,
Speaker 1: waiting for them to come by, you're not going to
Speaker 1: see it. I just happened to be at the wrong place.
Speaker 1: My kid woke up too early in the morning and
Speaker 1: had me on the road too early, and I was
Speaker 1: I thought I was getting out of the way of
Speaker 1: their motorcade, but I was right in their travel path.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Hey really used to be thanking your son for
Speaker 3: this site. And then because if he had been awake
Speaker 3: early and excited, you may have just.
Speaker 1: Missed all this. I have considered that for sure, And
Speaker 1: I think that the cops may have not been so
Speaker 1: friendly to me if he had not seen my son
Speaker 1: in the back seat. I think that the league made
Speaker 1: them be a little bit let He was, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of yelling at me, but I think he was
Speaker 1: being less as angry as he wanted to be because
Speaker 1: my kid was in the back seat. And I think
Speaker 1: that's probably also part of the reason why they were
Speaker 1: give me your ID, who are you all this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. They just wanted to go out of the
Speaker 1: way and stay in the car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been known to be a little bit more
Speaker 3: full on. I mean, the combination of having your son
Speaker 3: in the car and the estate plates certainly was in
Speaker 3: your favor.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think when I told him, because I
Speaker 1: didn't even see the initially what was coming up the
Speaker 1: highway because there was so many of the cops at
Speaker 1: the front of this motorcade. All I saw was police
Speaker 1: and police, and so I just thought there was an emergency.
Speaker 1: I'm getting out of the highway because I have my
Speaker 1: kid in the car, and I think that kind of
Speaker 1: registered to him. I'm not trying to be a lucky
Speaker 1: lou I'm just getting out of the way. And that's
Speaker 1: when you just move your car over there. Don't do
Speaker 1: anythings stupid. And I remember thinking, that's weird. Why we say,
Speaker 1: don't think eating stupid? So you turn and then that's
Speaker 1: what I saw. The army truck coming around the corner,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what is going on? And the craft,
Speaker 1: honestly in the center of all of this seemed kind
Speaker 1: of relatively small on the bed of the truck. I mean,
Speaker 1: because you know, it's just but.
Speaker 7: There was all this activity going on on all sides
Speaker 7: of it, with army guys and cops and machine guns,
Speaker 7: and the truck driver was having a kind of he
Speaker 7: was having to stop and then go and stop and
Speaker 7: go because I think he was checking in his mirrors
Speaker 7: to make sure that these wings of this thing are
Speaker 7: not going to clip a road sign or a police
Speaker 7: car or me or anyone else that's on the road.
Speaker 7: It didn't seem like this was his normal, normal duties
Speaker 7: or normal payload. He was he was stressing about how
Speaker 7: I can get this thing.
Speaker 1: Off the road.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Thank you sharing this, Yeah, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: And we'll definitely be in touch. When I get out
Speaker 1: there in a few months and take some pictures and video,
Speaker 1: I'll send them to.
Speaker 3: You, definitely, and I'll add all that to the website.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 3: I'll put a map up so people get a general
Speaker 3: idea and as I guarantee, there's going to be tons
Speaker 3: of internet solutions now that I could be looking checking
Speaker 3: out the area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I they definitely need to look up those articles.
Speaker 1: It's very clear on the internet that they were trying
Speaker 1: to You know, if at twenty eighteen they were trying
Speaker 1: to get six hundred and eighty eight thousand acres or
Speaker 1: something or wherever it's head of land and to expand
Speaker 1: the base, And if that's what they were doing, then
Speaker 1: by twenty twenty one when I'm there, they could have
Speaker 1: well already grabbed the land, built facilities, made roads, done
Speaker 1: whatever they needed to do. And that could have been
Speaker 1: what I was seeing, was them trying to transport something
Speaker 1: to and from that area. I think that that's really
Speaker 1: whether that's kind of what I wanted to get out
Speaker 1: to the community was like, hey, this my recounter was
Speaker 1: only a couple of years ago, so it's not that
Speaker 1: long ago. It was obviously far more modern whatever they're doing.
Speaker 1: And it's not down there. You're too far south. If
Speaker 1: you're down by area fifty one, you need to go
Speaker 1: up north. If you guys need to surround that area
Speaker 1: from like Hawthorn to Gabs and then I guess fallen
Speaker 1: to the north. So the other side of it, and
Speaker 1: that's somewhere out there is where're probably trying to fly
Speaker 1: these things.
Speaker 3: Wonderful, great stuff.
Speaker 1: Nate, Absolutely, I appreciate it, man, no.
Speaker 3: Problem, Nate I really appreciate you coming on sharing that
Speaker 3: for our listeners and hopefully, you know, we get a
Speaker 3: little bit of feedback from the listening community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate you having me. You know, it sounds
Speaker 1: good to finally tell the story because I've been telling
Speaker 1: it to some family members and friends, so I don't
Speaker 1: really have any other avenues to tell it. And it's
Speaker 1: cool to have other people that have similar experiences hear
Speaker 1: about it and know that they're not alone. Clearly something's
Speaker 1: going on. Awesome, man, Thank you so much. Nick.
Speaker 3: Great talking to you.
Speaker 1: Nate.
Speaker 3: All right, you enjoy the rest of your evening and
Speaker 3: we will speak soon.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks bye for now, Nate.
Speaker 3: That's all for the episode. Keep updated and connected with
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Speaker 3: you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com,
Speaker 3: or you can reach out to me via the contact
Speaker 3: page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A
Speaker 3: big finger to Lauren and Nate for sharing tonight, and
Speaker 3: as always, thank.
Speaker 1: You all for listening.
Speaker 3: I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe
Speaker 3: and keep watching the Skies. Goodbye,