WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:01.879 You'll be away five seventeen. 2 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:04.879 Do you want to report a ufoging in? 3 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:08.560 We don't want to report every thirty one? 4 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:11.800 Do you wish to report a UFO over hey, we 5 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:12.640 wanted one of. 6 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:15.439 Those areas thirty one? 7 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.160 Do you wish to find a report of any kind 8 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:17.320 of it? 9 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.440 I wouldn't know what kind of reports cloud times. 10 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:27.199 Areas thirty one me neither there sad one. If it 11 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:30.600 was anybody a U above us to pass us, like 12 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:32.280 thirty seconds ago, we. 13 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:37.039 Were sending one top of golf negative, okay, off the UFO. 14 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:41.039 Yeah it's murder two nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over. 15 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:42.759 God. 16 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:45.119 I don't know what it was, but it's from at 17 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:47.079 least to three thousand feet above us. 18 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:48.399 See, I passed out over the top. 19 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:54.520 Of US ninety one one. You just called both to 20 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:58.640 be be four. They're after staying the airplanes? 21 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:00.479 He is. 22 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:05.879 I sear to God more calm on an unidentified object 23 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:10.200 every liberty or call or calm on an unidentified flying object. 24 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.120 A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share 25 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.400 their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 26 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.519 an encounter, I would like to be on the show. 27 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:32.519 You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 28 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:51.359 Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. And I hope 29 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:54.359 you're all doing okay. I'm Nick Hunter and this is 30 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:57.959 the UFO Chronicles podcast. Our first guest we have tonight 31 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:01.599 is Lauren in British Columbia, and Lauren will not only 32 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:04.560 be sharing her own experience, but also her mother's in 33 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:08.439 nineteen forty her grandparents citing of a close up UFO 34 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:12.280 in Mexico in nineteen seventy two, and a husband's possible 35 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:15.479 reduction from the family camper in nineteen sixty five when 36 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:18.080 he was a child. And following Lauren, we speak with 37 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:21.039 Nate in Oregon about what happened while on a road 38 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:23.840 trip with his son in Neverda in twenty twenty one. 39 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:27.319 They both witnessed a convoy with a large military and 40 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:30.680 police presence transporting a strange object on the back of 41 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:34.719 a flatbed truck. Lauren is up next, but first, if 42 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:36.599 you enjoy the show and you would like to help 43 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:39.560 support the podcast on Patreon, you can do this for 44 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:42.120 as little as one dollar a month. Head on over 45 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.719 to patreon dot com forward slash UFO Chronicle's podcast. You 46 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:49.479 can also find a link in the description of this episode. 47 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:53.439 Any help is very much appreciated. Now on with the show. 48 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:12.400 Good evening, Lauren, and welcome to the podcast. 49 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:14.120 Thank you very much. Nick. 50 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:16.759 It is great to have you with us. And you're 51 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:17.840 calling from Canada. 52 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:22.280 Yeah, so we're located in the Vancouver area, and most 53 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:25.599 of what I have to say tonight does sort of 54 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.520 originate in the BC Province of BC. 55 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:31.080 But there is one. 56 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:34.159 Story that's a deep, dark family secret from Mexico that 57 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:37.400 I had to ask the entire family if it was 58 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:38.800 okay to shire to share. 59 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:42.120 Okay, you have prepared and you're up on the West Coast. 60 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:44.800 Great stuff. Now, Lauren, you have joined us to share 61 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:47.240 some of your experiences. Would you like to start the 62 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:48.120 beginning please, ma'am? 63 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:48.719 Sure? 64 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.319 And I guess really, when I mean where it really 65 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:55.479 starts is I think I've been thinking quite a lot 66 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:58.159 about this for a long time, about sharing these with you. 67 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:01.039 Listen to the show for a long time and it's 68 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:05.400 excellent and really just sort of what held me back 69 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:09.000 was the fact that, like so many families, I think 70 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:12.000 we really felt like this. You know, the stories I'm 71 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:15.360 about to say, we're family secrets. So I had to 72 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:17.519 turn around and go to my brothers and sisters and 73 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:21.600 my mom, who's now eighty three, to say is are 74 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:25.759 you okay with me sharing this now? And funny enough, 75 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:28.279 she came out with a story that I had never 76 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:31.199 ever heard before. At the age of eighty three, this 77 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:35.360 was my first first time hearing this secret. But she 78 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.720 told me that when she was growing up in Abbotsford, 79 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:40.519 they were a farming family there. 80 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:41.879 And she said that. 81 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:44.560 She just sort of said to me matter of factly, 82 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:46.480 when I was asking her if it was okay to 83 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.279 share on the podcast, she said, well, we. 84 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:50.920 Always knew the way that they were there. 85 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.240 Everybody knew about them. And I said, well, what do 86 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:56.480 you mean UFOs and she's like, oh, my god, yeah, 87 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:58.199 she goes, we used to see them all the time. 88 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:02.240 So we're going back to the early forties. She said 89 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:05.399 about forty six, she was about sixty seven years old 90 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:09.680 and she was walking in one of the farm roads 91 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:14.040 with her sister and her cousin and this UFO just 92 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:18.360 whipped across the sky in front of them, and she said, oh, 93 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:20.639 we knew right away what it was, and we had 94 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:24.199 heard about them from people, and so we went running 95 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:27.319 to the local they knew where the local reporter lived, 96 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:28.240 so they. 97 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:29.519 Went running all the way to her house. 98 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.079 They were so excited to tell this woman about this 99 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:35.920 UFO that they'd seen, and they basically got laughed at. 100 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:39.600 She's like, oh, yeah, right, you know. So, so my 101 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.199 mom says, I don't care what anybody else says. We 102 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.279 know what we saw. And that's kind of where this 103 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:50.279 all sort of starts from. So it's her parents that 104 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:54.399 when we were in the nineteen seventies, they used to 105 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:57.319 live in the Shoe Swap, but before that they lived 106 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:00.319 at Cambridge and they owned several city blocks there. They 107 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:04.959 built a big complex there. So anyways, they did that 108 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:07.639 night I as a kid, and then they'd spend their 109 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:11.920 winters in Mexico and then they eventually sold that the 110 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:13.920 big you know, the blocks, and they made a lot 111 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:17.600 of money and started wintering seriously down in Porta Vireta. 112 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:21.720 For this is about oh gosh, it got to be about. 113 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:24.240 Forty fifty years so now, so it would have been 114 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:27.040 the late seventies, and they used to rent a villa 115 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:29.000 down there and they were kind of hanging out with 116 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:32.120 a pretty racy crowd. I think some of the people 117 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:34.800 that used to hang out with were sort of. 118 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:36.560 Heirs to the Hindes ketchup fortunes. 119 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:41.279 So they thought, you know, they were kind of having 120 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:44.519 a really good time down there. But when they came 121 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.079 home with this story, they said to us, they said, 122 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:50.399 please don't ever say anything to anybody, because this ever 123 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:52.480 got out, you know, I mean it would have at 124 00:06:52.519 --> 00:06:55.560 that time in the seventies if people had heard this 125 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.079 story that were about to tell you, they would have 126 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:00.839 been ousted from their social group, They would have lost 127 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.560 their friends in Kamloops. They would have been laughing stocks 128 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:07.680 in the community because there was such a I don't know, 129 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:12.519 there was just such skepticism and lack of belief in 130 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:13.560 those generations. 131 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:15.199 But this is what happened to them. 132 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:18.360 So apparently they came home after a dinner party one 133 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:21.519 night when they were sitting out on their second floor 134 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:24.319 deck and it was a beautiful night and there was 135 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:26.759 a bunch of stars out, there was a nice breeze, 136 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:29.240 and they were just enjoying that, just about to go 137 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:32.800 to bed, and right there was a palm tree about 138 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:35.480 ten feet off the deck and it only went up 139 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:38.680 about another ten or fifteen feet above the deck. And 140 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:43.120 she said that while they were sitting there, this UFO 141 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:46.800 just kind of dropped right out of the sky and 142 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:50.439 it stopped over top of the palm tree and it 143 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.160 just sat there and I said, we said, well. 144 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:55.120 You know what it look like? And oh, well, it 145 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:56.800 was a normal just like a UFO. 146 00:07:56.959 --> 00:07:59.000 She said that you see on TV it was saws 147 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:02.720 or shape that it had flashing lights all the way 148 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:04.360 around it that were moving. 149 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.160 And they didn't know what to do. And that's what 150 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:08.319 I said, Well, what did you do? 151 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:11.680 Because that would have terrified me? And they said, yeah, 152 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:14.920 we were really scared. So we just pretended we didn't 153 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:18.000 see it, and we sat there, like, didn't even move 154 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.120 a muscle until it last. 155 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:23.519 And until i'd heard that story, my. 156 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:28.480 Grandmother was always bringing us home paperback books about UFOs 157 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:31.959 and was always very interested in the topic. And then 158 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:34.240 once I found out that they didn't tell us this 159 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:37.200 until we were teenagers, like kids, it would be too 160 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:39.960 much for us to handle. But when they did tell 161 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:43.000 us finally, to me, it just made so much sense. 162 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:48.039 So and then the next story was around I don't know, 163 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:52.639 probably late seventies, I guess. We were at their place 164 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.720 in Shoe Shop Lake and they had a big beautiful 165 00:08:55.799 --> 00:08:58.559 property that rolled down to the Lake mcdoc. And we 166 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:00.440 used to water ski and have a really good time there, 167 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:02.120 and the whole family would be there every summer. 168 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:03.840 So we were sitting down. 169 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.120 At the and the Sandy Beach area and we had 170 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:09.440 a fire going and we sit down there and play 171 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:12.720 guitar and tell stories and laugh and whatever. And it 172 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:18.159 was kind of twilight, and we're sitting there and I 173 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:21.320 was looking out over the mountain range, which is sort 174 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.080 of the I don't know what range, I guess Clost 175 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:26.039 Mountains probably, And it was just a beautiful evening. It 176 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:28.320 was clear as a bell, and all of a sudden, 177 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.279 this light and it was about the size of I 178 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:36.279 don't know, maybe maybe the end of a chapstick, maybe 179 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:38.360 that about that kind of a circle, and it was 180 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:42.919 a really really bright light and it went shooting right 181 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.720 across the whole mountain range and it took about I 182 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:49.320 don't know, I'm going to say three seconds for it 183 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:51.360 to get all the way across the mountain range and 184 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:55.039 it stopped dead and then it literally just stood there 185 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:58.000 for in the sky for maybe one account of three 186 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:00.879 and then just shot right up in the air straight 187 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:04.840 and just disappeared out of sight, and I thought, oh wow, 188 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.879 I'm kind of like, did it What did I just see? Thought? 189 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.600 That's got to have been in the UFO. And I 190 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:13.320 turned around and there was my grandmother and she was 191 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:17.639 standing beside me, and even though the whole family knew 192 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:21.120 that they had seen these things before and been pretty 193 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:22.879 close to one, she had to. 194 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:26.360 She whispered to me and she's like, did you see that? 195 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:30.159 And I'm like, yeah, I totally saw that, and she's well, 196 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:33.039 that's the UFL and you know, it was just like 197 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:36.120 it was almost a secret between the two of us too, right, 198 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:39.480 So we all knew about it, but we didn't really. 199 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:40.200 Talk about it. 200 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:44.080 But from that day on, because I had seen that 201 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:48.279 and I knew there was absolutely nothing on earth that 202 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:51.759 moves in that way, there's nothing that does that that 203 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:54.720 goes straight across that past and then goes straight up. 204 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:57.759 I'm like, yeah, okay, so I believe. So that made 205 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:00.799 me a believer. So then I'll move along here. 206 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.559 I find the love of my life and I get 207 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:08.039 married and this family story comes out, and I actually 208 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:11.360 this is an old story. So before again, before I 209 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:14.279 wanted to come on tonight and talk about it. I 210 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:17.399 wanted to re verify facts with the family and wanted 211 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:20.200 to make sure that I was remembered it right, because 212 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.519 you have a tendency to embolish. 213 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:23.360 Stories as you get older. 214 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:28.000 And know his eighty three and ninety year old parents 215 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:31.360 tell this story exactly the way that I'm going to 216 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:32.600 just tell you guys right now. 217 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.399 And this is so odd because and. 218 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.480 I'll explain why afterwards, but my husband is kind of 219 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:43.039 he's kind of got something different about him. He was 220 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.080 out at five years old were the family was coming 221 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.600 from Edmonton to Vancouver for a holiday before they moved here, 222 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:53.320 and they were using a camping trailer and it was 223 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:55.120 one of those ones you know you pop up, you 224 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:58.120 put behind the car and then you drive, and then 225 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:00.000 when you get to where you're going, you pop up 226 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.440 the walls and it locked from the inside and it's 227 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:05.840 got snaps all the way around it that you know, 228 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:06.600 secure it. 229 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:08.960 And then there's kind of two sleeping areas. 230 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:11.799 So they had his. 231 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:15.519 Older brother who was satn on the floor. 232 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:19.240 And they put Brian, who was five, on this ledge 233 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:21.519 that was kind of over the back of the trailer. 234 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:24.159 And at that age he still liked to be tucked 235 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:27.159 in so his mom did the sleeping bag tuck in 236 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.840 where he dipped him right out, had his pillow in 237 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:31.759 there with him, and it tucked him all in, so 238 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:33.559 he was like a sort of a little slug there 239 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:36.799 and he couldn't really move, and off they go to sleep. 240 00:12:36.919 --> 00:12:39.639 They locked the door from the inside in the morning 241 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:42.039 and he's gone. 242 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:45.360 But it's not just him that's gone, it's his sleeping. 243 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.519 Bag and his pillow and there's nothing there. 244 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:51.399 And it's still locked from the inside. 245 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:54.799 So they're like, well, what the heck still, that's what 246 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:59.039 they said, with a few stronger language, but they so they, 247 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:01.759 you know, get out in the campground and you're yelling 248 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:02.879 and they're calling. 249 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:03.840 And trying to find him. 250 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.120 And he spent about fifteen minutes looking for him and 251 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:09.600 asking people, you know, if they'd seen this little boy. 252 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.480 And then his dad decided, well, I better go start 253 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:15.600 driving the highway to see if he wanted out by 254 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.559 the highway, because it was fairly close to the highway 255 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:22.159 where they were, and he went to he looks down 256 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.240 underneath the camper and directly underneath where he'd been sleeping, 257 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.559 directly underneath there he is still tucked in the whole 258 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:34.639 ways sleeping bag is tucked in his blanket, pillows still 259 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.759 under his head like it was just like I always 260 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:39.919 said after hearing that story, that they just put a 261 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:42.600 mac wrong. So they dropped him a little too low 262 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:45.879 and they when they returned him, whoever took him. But 263 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.039 that's such an odd story, and so that I always 264 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:53.200 stick and sticks in my mind because he has sort 265 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:54.799 of an unusual immune system. 266 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:57.639 So I've been with him for about thirty. 267 00:13:57.399 --> 00:14:01.320 Five years and I can only out two times that 268 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:04.320 he's ever been set that I know of a cold 269 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:04.759 or flu. 270 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.840 I had COVID I was in the same room with him. 271 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:09.120 He's never had it. 272 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.559 He never got seck. He just doesn't get sick. He 273 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:14.480 doesn't get cold, he doesn't get anything. 274 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:19.840 And when we were first sort of together, we first 275 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:21.759 few times were going over to my parents us my 276 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.519 mom was cooking for him. And the first time we 277 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:27.559 went there, he came home and he's like we were 278 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:29.840 living together at the time, and he said, oh, my 279 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:31.879 got the worst stomach ache. And I thought, this is 280 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.080 not like you. You never complained about pain. Something's got 281 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.519 to be really wrong. So this went on for a 282 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:39.679 couple hours where he was in agony and I said, 283 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:41.759 we're going to hospital. So we took him to Merch 284 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:45.120 and the hospital was pretty close here. It was community hospital. 285 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:47.960 So they do some blood tests and they find an 286 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.000 elevated you know, white blood cell counts, and they're like, yes, 287 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:54.039 you're having problems with your appendix. It looks like your 288 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:55.840 appendix is going to burst. We're going to have a 289 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:58.679 surgeon coming in the morning and you know, take it 290 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:02.679 out for you. So I go home, of course, because 291 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.080 they won't let me stay. I get a call at 292 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:07.240 six thirty in the morning, we'll come pick me up. 293 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.960 I'm going, well, what's going on? Well, you know what, 294 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:13.000 they did another blood test before the surgeon took me 295 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.080 in and there's nothing wrong. So his blood test was 296 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:19.360 completely normal. There was no sign of anything, and he 297 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:23.360 was perfect. So then the next time this happens, it 298 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:25.399 was you know, well, the third time it happened, it 299 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:27.440 was a joke because I'm like, okay, it's got to 300 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:30.440 be my mother's cooking. There's something going on here that's 301 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.799 you know, not normal, but I don't know what it is. 302 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:35.519 So the fifth time. 303 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:38.320 Had happened, he was at work this time, so he 304 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:41.799 drives himself to the hospital. The doctor says, okay, be 305 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:44.679 back at four o'clock. First, we're going to do surgery 306 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:48.519 right away. So he goes back, does some banking, goes 307 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:49.919 for a beer with a buddy. 308 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:52.399 Then goes back to the hospital at five to four, 309 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:53.120 where the. 310 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:56.159 Tire medical team is like, well where that could you 311 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:59.120 be in? Blah blah blah freaking out they would feel 312 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:03.840 him in And the next morning I get a call 313 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.799 again at six thirty in the morning and he said. 314 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.440 Come pick me up. I'm like, well, what's going on? 315 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.480 And he said, well, I just talked to the surgeon 316 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:14.399 and they're going to let me go home in about 317 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.000 an hour, so I need you to come in. So 318 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:18.720 I went in to pick him up and he said, oh, 319 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.720 You'll never believe this, and I'm like, well, what happens right? 320 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:24.519 He goes, well, the surgeon asked if you could keep 321 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:27.519 my appendix and I said, well, we why is that? 322 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:30.360 And he said, well, do you know what an appendix is? 323 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:31.759 And I said, well, not really. 324 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:34.919 I know my brother's burst one time and he was 325 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:37.840 really sick and he said, yeah, it's a little dead 326 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:40.200 piece of tissue that's kind of on the end of 327 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:42.159 your I guess thought leand of your coal and I'm 328 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:43.000 not quite sure. 329 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:44.519 Where, but it's dead. 330 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.519 As the doctor explained it to him, it's not living tissue. 331 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.360 It doesn't regenerate itself. If it gets infected, it has 332 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:55.720 to be removed, or you know, basically, if it burst, 333 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:57.799 it just puts a bunch of poison into your system 334 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.320 and you get really sick. I'm like, oh, and he 335 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.879 goes he said. The doctor was, or the surgeon was 336 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:06.799 really adamant. It doesn't heal itself. If it bursts, it 337 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:09.640 pretty much has to be removed. I'm like, oh, okay, 338 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:13.039 and he said, he said, John, he asked if you could. 339 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:14.839 Keep it, And I said, why is that? 340 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:19.440 He goes, well, because six separate sets of scar tissue 341 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:22.920 on my appendix, so five times it had burst and 342 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:26.079 healed itself, and then the sixth time they took it out. 343 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:30.279 But honestly, every time that it burst, his entire. 344 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:32.160 System would have been flooded with these poisons. 345 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:36.400 And within hours he had metabolized it and completely it 346 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:39.200 was gone. It was like he was perfectly normal the 347 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:41.880 next day, which is the weirdest thing I've ever heard of. 348 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:45.920 So then I go, So then we are daughter, we 349 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:50.440 have a daughter, and she's eleven and is diagnosed with 350 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:54.759 leukemia and it's pretty good devastating as you can imagine 351 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:58.119 for parents. And we kept saying, well, you know, with 352 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:01.039 Ryan's got half the good imus system, so I'm sure 353 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:03.759 this is going to work and we'll just wait for 354 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.440 the miracle to happen. Well, she had to go on 355 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.799 some pretty heavy chemo oral chemo drugs and these are 356 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:12.839 for life, so she's got to be on these mads 357 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:15.640 now the rest of her life. But it does keep 358 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:20.240 the leukemia at bay, so she's totally healthy other than this. 359 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:25.400 So anyways, she has a baby and they said, okay, 360 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:27.559 well we'll let you go off these drugs while you 361 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:30.319 because she gets married and has a baby. So she 362 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:32.480 has a baby and then she goes start going for 363 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.279 blood tests again and the doctors are like, well, we're 364 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.160 going to let you stay off your drugs, and she's like, 365 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:42.440 well why, and because apparently the cancer just isn't coming back. 366 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:45.079 So it's been two and a half years now that 367 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:48.599 she's been off her chemo drugs and cancer drugs and 368 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:50.799 it doesn't look at this point like she's going to 369 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:53.359 have to go back on them. So I'm hoping that's 370 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:55.559 a really good immune system that she got from her dad. 371 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:58.960 But again it's kind of an odd thing. And then 372 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:02.200 the final sort of little episode that I had happened 373 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:06.599 pretty recently. We got away for a vacation for a 374 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.640 couple of weeks and we went down to Vegas, and 375 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:12.200 mostop go you can't go to Vegas for a couple 376 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:13.880 of weeks. But the way we do it, we can 377 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:16.480 because we stay in a nice quiet place and we 378 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:20.480 walk every day and cook for ourselves and just enjoy the. 379 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:24.519 Hot weather in the pool. So one day, this big black. 380 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:27.160 Storm cloud was starting to roll in from sort of 381 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:30.559 over the mountains and coming in over the Vegas buildings 382 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:34.279 and I we were in the pool and I was 383 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:35.000 starting to. 384 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:35.799 Get ready to leave. 385 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:38.279 I said to him, I said, you know, I think 386 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:40.359 a good storm's coming you. We should probably go up 387 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:43.160 to our room. So he was still lying there and 388 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:45.480 I saw something. So I walked over sort of to 389 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.400 the edge of the pool deck and I'm looking up 390 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:51.759 at this black storm cloud and I see At first 391 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:55.319 I thought it was birds, because I don't know, because 392 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:56.599 it was several of them. 393 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:58.440 There were three or four of these things. 394 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:01.599 And then I thought, well, well, they're not birds because 395 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:02.880 they're not moving like birds. 396 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:04.839 They were moving in sync. 397 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:07.200 They were kind of like you know how drones move 398 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:10.440 in sync. But then they weren't in sync, but they 399 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:14.640 were moving very smoothly and slowly. They weren't flapping or 400 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.599 flocking or doing anything. And they were bright silver. They 401 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:23.119